PUMA Politics For Dummies
By Diamond Tiger on July 20, 2008 at 11:30 AM in Current Affairs
Over the course of the last six weeks, more and more people are hearing about P.U.M.A and the Just Say No Deal Coalition and looking for information about this viral movement. Since the Main Stream Media (with the exception of FOX) isn’t about to give you the facts about PUMAs, I humbly thought it might be helpful to post my own observations about what I have seen and heard from PUMAs since the group started. For all of you out in the ether who are just hearing about PUMA and JSND and wondering about the many and diverse voices saying Nobama, Not Now, Not Ever; this might help you understand the coalition better. I have linked up Just Say No Deal’s YouTube channel to help get you up to speed.
There are some myths that need to be debunked also. Here is a quote from an American talking about other Americans (and I respect free speech):
MSNBC’s First Read’s story about Hillary as a VP choice.
Hillary’s supporters are not needed by Obama. He’ll have enough votes without them. Those fat old poor white women can go pound salt.
Ames Johnston, Battle Creek MI (Sent Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:51 PM)
The #1 biggest myth about PUMAs:
1. All Pumas are old, menopausal, bitter white women. Wrong! According to the Just Say No Deal founders, a significant percentage; as much as 40%, are men. Here is a PUMA man who is a Native American, college educated, veteran who is not bitter about Hillary being “railroaded”; rather, he is angry, to say the least, that Obama has continued to vote against Native American interests, has voted against the American people and with the Telecoms in regards to FISA, cannot seem to find a single position and stick with it, and that he has left his chair empty while campaigning. This PUMA man believes that when any single person is diminished in any way, then every person is diminished.
"I Dare You To Call Me A Fat Old White Woman To My Face"; Lee M., Nez Perce Nation |
And here is an excerpt from No We Won’t Blogtalk Radio where Barbara, a black lady from Mississippi called in to tell the listeners that she marched with Martin Luther King and that Barack Obama is a “race-baiting phony.”
2. PUMAs are “cloaked republicans”.
According to the Anti-Puma sites that sprung up about the same time as H.O.U.N.D., we are all “cloaked republicans” working to ensure a 3rd Bush Term. Here is quote from one such site. Please note that PUMAs are all racists.
Love the site. PUMA is a fraud - a bunch of republican racists who were voting for McCain anyway.
No democrat woman would vote to assure the repeal of Roe v Wade under McCain. They aren’t democrats - never were.
by Dan July 8, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Once again, wrong. PUMAs come from all walks of life, are white, black, native american, asian, latino, gay, straight, male, female, and are from all political parties; Democrats, Republicans, Indies. We do not have a problem with the color of Obama’s skin, we have a problem with everything else about Barack Obama; his lack of experience, his voting or “not-voting” record, his un-american associates, his using the race card against a Former President and the American people, and how he failed his Chicago constituents are among a long list of deal breakers.
We all have the common goal of keeping Barack Obama and whatever agenda he wants to fly with today out of the White House, and is in part due to the decision of the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting on May 31st, 2008. If the Democratic Party had followed it’s own “rules”, American voters in Michigan and Florida would not have been disenfranchised and ruled 1/2 people AND Hillary Clinton would have had the delegate lead to take the nomination. This is why you will hear PUMAs say that Barack Obama was selected, not elected. Why did states that were slated to be won by Barack Obama receive sanctions so that their elections would count and states that Senator Clinton was slated to win receive a punishment? Why does the DNC or fellow democrats think that the almost 2.3 million people who voted in those two states have anything to do with a contract that Senator Clinton signed saying that the votes wouldn’t count? These are American voters whose votes count because of the very charter of the party they are members of.
Fellow Democrats with selective reasoning want us to stop whining, sit down, shut up, fall in line, yada, yada, yada. Their argument is that Michigan and Florida don’t count. Obama won and Clinton lost; also not true. Neither candidate reached the required number of delegates to secure the nomination. I call it selective reasoning because the Democratic Party Charter has as one of it’s provisions the concept of “Fair Reflection”. What happened on May 31st, 2008 at the RBC meeting was the death of democracy. 600,000 Michigan voters were not fairly reflected. Barack Obama was awarded uncommitted delegates when he himself had voluntarily taken his name off the ballot. He was also awarded 4 of Senator Clinton’s delegates. How can anyone say that the decision they came up with doesn’t violate the charter of the party? Does this fairly reflect the Michigan voters that supported her? Does the 1/2 delegation from Florida fairly reflect all the people that voted there?
From the Charter:
Article Two, Section 4, (b) and (g):
Section 4. The National Convention shall be composed of delegates equally divided between men and women. The delegates shall be chosen through processes which:
(b) assure that delegations fairly reflect the division of preferences expressed by those who participate in the Presidential nominating process,
Democratic National Committee in the Call to the Convention,
(g) prohibit unpledged and uncommitted delegates, except delegates or alternates expressing an uncommitted preference shall be permitted to be elected at the district level, in which event, if such preference meets the applicable threshold and qualifies for at-large or similar delegates or alternates, such at-large or similar delegates or alternates shall be allocated to that uncommitted preference as if it were a presidential candidate,
What Harold Ickes had to say about the hijacking of delegates is completely true and inarguable.
Another reason PUMAs are so up in arms is a general provision in the very same charter. The decision to 1/2 Florida delegates and award Michigan delegates to Barack Obama was made behind closed doors with a secret ballot. Link here to CSpan’s video vault.
Article 9, General Provisions:
Section 12. All meetings of the Democratic National Committee, the Executive Committee, and all other official Party committees, commissions and bodies shall be open to the public, and votes shall not be taken by secret ballot.
Currently, there is talk about not putting Senator Clinton’s name into nomination at the Convention, though this is not unprecedented, it would be an insult to Senator Clinton, her staff and her 18 million supporters when the delegate difference between the two candidates is so microscopically thin, neither candidate reached the required delegate count for the nomination, the controversy surrounding the primaries and the RBC decision was so immense, and the true political nature of Barack Obama now coming to light. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, Senator Clinton is leading Senator McCain by 8 percentage points. Senator Clinton is the stronger democratic candidate.
Take a look at the Blogroll on the right. Pick a site and you will find an American voter, almost always a democrat, and the reasons why they won’t vote for, and in most cases, will work against Barack Obama’s nomination and election. Start with Just Say No Deal, No Quarter, The Confluence, ClintonDems, Hire Heels….you will find intelligent, thoughtful insight into why PUMAs Just Say No Deal and why we believe that Barack Obama is not the best choice for President.
If you are a PUMA, please leave a comment for others to read about why you are a PUMA. Mahalo, Diamond
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By Sarah Palin (Release date: November 17. 2009)
More Change You Can Believe In:
Maliki Backs Obama Troop Pullout Plan - Der Spiegel
Maliki Disputes Report on Troop Withdrawal Plan - CNN
Oooppss - The Obama Camp was a bit too pushy and premature in getting the Left Leaning German Rag Der Spiegel to publish his propaganda.
Pelosi opened her big mouth on it also.
Obama Embarrass The US Again
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After receiving a hailstorm of criticism for considering Brandenburg Gate for a public speech, as well as official German dissuasion, Barack Obama moved the venue to the Siegessäule monument. Obama will speak about “historic” US-German relations, but once again, Obama’s own grasp of history has been proven deficient. Not only does the site contain a monument to Prussian victories over other American allies in Europe, its placement was decided by Adolf Hitler — in order to impress crowds in his idealized version of Berlin called Germania:
Still, even as the issue of his speech’s location has now been settled, a number of politicians in Berlin are still dissatisfied with the site. The Siegessäule — or Victory Column — was erected in memory of Prussia’s victories over Denmark (1864), Austria (1866) and France (1870/71). The column originally stood in front of the Reichstag, Germany’s parliament building, but was moved by Adolf Hitler to its current location in 1939 to make way for his planned transformation of Berlin into the Nazi capital “Germania.”
“The Siegessäule in Berlin was moved to where it is now by Adolf Hitler. He saw it as a symbol of German superiority and of the victorious wars against Denmark, Austria and France,” the deputy leader of the Free Democrats, Rainer Brüderle, told Bild am Sonntag. He raised the question as to “whether Barack Obama was advised correctly in his choice of the Siegessäule as the site to hold a speech on his vision for a more cooperative world.”
Andreas Schockenhoff of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats said, “the Siegessäule in Berlin is dedicated to a victory over neighbors who are today our European friends and allies. It is a problematic symbol.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
god help us….
Ickes was good…
“fat, old, poor white women”?? nice…..I’ve got news for them, they are severely out of touch w reality
I am a fat, old, poor white woman but guess what. My vote counts just the same as Ames Johnston’s vote. For this election my normally Democratic vote will go to John McCain. Ames, you can say anything you want about us. You just make us more determined to send your Dear Leader back home to ChiTown in November.
Obama wants so badly to use Germany and the German people in his quest for the Presidency. Leni Reifensthaler couldn’t have staged this better in her Documentary Triumph Of The Will. Obama has a way of copying people. JFK, RFK, MLK, Reagan, even Moses. Does he want to copy Hitler now?
Since there are so many similarities between Adolph Hitler and Barack Obama, I think Obama picked the perfect place to give a speech. I hope they have teleprompters there!!! What a pompous putz!!!
Primary Fixed Good write up
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/absoluteproofofafixedprimaryelection.aspx
Check out the videos above, of the fixed Primary.
Doesnt’ sound like anyone kept there word.
Not that I would judge by a photo, but he is obviously not a fat old white woman, but he does fit the picture of those who cling to their guns and religion. Was he ever a Democrat?
As for PUMA not being an RNC front?
Larry Johnson - a self declared Republican, ex CIA, an organization not unused to stirring up trouble to get “the right side” victory.
Darragh Murphy. McWar supporter from the start.
However many Clinton4McCain sites.
No not Republican at all. (Actually neither McCain or Hillary wants any association with you lot at all).
Oh, let me guess what you are reading “Trolls for Dummies”
Peace be with little troll
Keep praying TeaMug! You’re a better person…er Mug than I am
I’ll pray for you
Thanks wodiej, I need all the help I can get. I’m afraid my patience for these trolls has reached the limit. The stakes are too high for their games.
I was directing that to the troll but I can pray for you too! There is no reasoning w people like that so praying is really all that can be done with them.
imustprotest — I feel as you do. But the trolls aren’t the problem. They are just paid teenage idiots. The problem is Obama and his real agenda. I am ashamed to have been a lifelong Democrat and I will proudly vote McCain in 08. When you see polls where it shows Michelle Obama is more popular than Cindy McCain you know the media is in the tank for BO. However, there is PUMA and people like us– and let us not forget Larry and Susan. We are going to be ok.
Hey troll, don’t go around calling yourself a Democrat because you’re supporting someone who does not care about Democratic values…
Don’t flatter yourself and your Supreme Master. He has more problems than you’re willing to admit. Isn’t that why you’re here anyway? If all of us were just Republicans, you should have nothing to worry about.
Aha! A False Comity all-the-timer. One of the Elect (:: at last! :::).
HOPE®: the total abdication of disbelief.
Sounds pretty racist to me.
Wow your comment is pretty damn bigoted friend.
I am gonna go with you wither seeing, hats or long hair as redneck based on your comment hard to tell..
let’s go with long hair since hats is just sooo far ranging…
long hair means redneck to you?
did you not see the reference to the Native American tribe in the caption?
have you never been to a SHakespeare play?
or a Judas Priest concert?
or to San Francisco or Berkley or any one of the zillion other places where long hair on men is frequent and IMO charming?
what a piece of work you trollz are, total projection every time.
How about the Orange Satan and its spawn? HuffnPuff, Ameriblech, NoPointsMemo. Did they not begin this incarnation as Republicans? I know some Republicans. They do not have scales and horns (well, ok, maybe cloven hooves.) So are you saying that once you pull a Republican lever, it leaves a mark upon the soul so you can escape Old Scratch, even down in Georgia with Charlie Daniels?
Oh. Yeah. Old, white, male, veteran. PUMA.
Seems like you’re still a Republican.
Don’t be stupid. All politicians want votes, and Clinton would love a one-term McCain presidency where she could win in 2012 as the I-told-you-so candidate. Obama would run this country in the ground and start a war just before his second term so he could be in for his 8 - 10 years.
I am a supporter of PUMA and will not vote for Obama. I was not only a lifelong Democrat , I was a Democratic Precinct chair. I am an educated, liberal woman. I first started investigating Obama when he was campaigning in Texas and especially after our caucus. The DNC hijack of the Democratic party (and democracy)has permanently and dramatically changed my viewpoint. I have not committed my vote yet to any other candidate. My support is still with Sen. Clinton , however at this point my preference is that she is not the V.P. candidate for all the reasons stated by other PUMA’s.
Oh, goodie, now Obama can throw the Germans under the bus too, along with Denmark, Austria, and France. And don’t forget Iraqi PM Malaki, who states that Obama is misrepresenting Malaki’s statement ma regarding potential U.S. troop withdrawals. Join the magical, mystery Obamatour.
Is the ride getting a wee bit bumpy yet for Katie and her fellow news anchors as they travel with the chosen one? Will they bother to ask him any questions about this relevant, breaking news: Malaki’s comments and Iran’s flat-out refusal to cooperate with the West and stop enriching uranium?
Or will they just cover his photo-ops and speechifying? Take a guess.
Why I am a PUMA?
The disenfranchisement of democratic party voters and electoral fraud by the DNC to install a narcissistic adolescent with no qualifications or experience, and a history of lying and political expediency as the presumptive nominee. But, there’s more. This “presumptive” nominee has a disturbing penchant for top-down, centralized, dictates delivered from inside his new Chicago Kingdom. His policies change from audience to audience, rally to rally, news cycle to news cycle. He’s alienated Latinos, Seniors, Women and the Working Class. His arrogance is becoming legend. He is co-opting progressive values and morphing them into right-wing positions, while his blogger teams bully democrats to support him.
Barack Obama cannot be trusted.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/610762.html
In a confidential July 4 memo sent to 25 prominent South Florida Hispanics, former Miami Mayor Maurice Ferre — well respected in nationwide Democratic circles — called for creation of a ”South Florida Hispanic policy advisory group” to counterbalance what he perceives as excessive micro-management of state campaigns by Obama’s Chicago headquarters.
[...]
”My experience with how the Obama campaign handled the delegate vote on June 1 in Puerto Rico was disastrous,” Ferre wrote. “The principal decision makers, operatives and advertisements were all made in or through Chicago. The result is that [Sen. Hillary] Clinton got almost 70 percent of the vote in Puerto Rico.”
[...]
Don’t be surprised if, in coming weeks, you see a shift to the center in the Obama campaign’s Latin American rhetoric, including a less strident opposition to the Mexico and Colombia free trade agreements, and a more persistent criticism of Cuba and Venezuela’s authoritarian regimes. Suddenly, Florida is at the center of the Obama campaign’s strategy to win the White House, and will play a key role in it.
NoBigotry,
Are you really against bigotry? If you support Obama, then you must be a bigot. Obama is a bigot; he is a racist and a sexist.
Why didn’t he denounce Jesse Jackson, Jr.’s statement to the Washington Post regarding Hillary? (Junior is Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair)
“The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”
Until cleaning up your act, you have no room to talk about others.
Why not read that quote in the context of the article it was taken from.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha good one, BOBO’s original battle plan included opposition to telecom immunity. If we only knew then what we know now.
NoBigotry,
Your response makes no sense, just like your candidate. The quote has no reference to the article and never should have been made.
To compare a political race to the O.J. Simpson case and attacking a white woman?!
It was a racist and sexist comment. The fact that you can defend it proves you are as racist and sexist as Obama and have not moral grounds to condemn anyone else.
Ha, I don’t think the Obama campaign will appreciate you bringing up that idiotic Jesse Jr. statement.
I,however, think you should do it often.
The OJ Simpson case wasn’t about race but they played the race card. It was about the abuse of women. Nicole Brown was a battered wife there were tons of police records to prove that. OJ’s lawyers turned it into a race issue. To use the brutal and horrific murder of a woman and another innocent bystander Ron Goldman as a reference to political strategy is obnoxious to say the least. But, what does Uppity say? She was just a ho so whatever.
Sounds just as bad in context. What’s your point?
Pink Panthers — Obama did not denounce Louis Farrahkan who is a rabid anti-semite or Bill Ayers who bombed this country as a member of The Weather Underground, nor has ever explained in his book Dreams Of My Father why when Wright spoke of Black Liberation did Obama have tears of agreement in his eyes. Obama stirs up the caldron of racism while he pretends to be a uniter. It would be so easy right now to make White people scapegoats just as Hitler made Jews the scapegoats for the economy of the 30’s. If weakening this nation from within is Obama’s agenda and that of The Democratic Party then I am no longer a Democrat and they can take that to the bank.
Obama supporters are as bigoted as the right wing of the Republican Party of decades ago. And, they are denying it (or should we say justifying it) just as the right wing of the Republican Party did so many years ago.
Obama and his supporters do not have a pass to be bigots. Racism is racism; sexism is sexism; ageism is ageism; hatred is hatred-regardless of whether is comes from Obama supporters or from the any other political group.
Obama and his supporters do not get a pass. We cannot give them a pass to allow their hate and bigotry to continue.
Except Jews were a minority in Germany. Who knows which group would be scapegoated by an authoritarian and fascistic regime? Jews again, Asians again, gays or “pedophiles” or “terrorists.”
Hope..
Thanks for Michael Buble!
And yes my wife does stick a finger in her ear when she hears me sing.
Hillary supporters, Hopefloats?
someone should setup http://www.notafatoldwhitewoman.com or some variant and make it a site where we can post our pictures (I’m a 26 year old man, and while I’m white, I’m rather svelt. I was a registered Democrat until recently).
Isn’t Just Say No Deal asking for PUMA photos to make some kind of a commerical or ad?
yes! rodhamdem you svelte charmer you :0>
check it out on the justsaynodeal site
BOOYAH and W00T!
HILLARY IS POTUS
Wow. I can’t believe all the hate that’s festering on this site. I wasn’t even a fan of Obama during the primaries, but the more garbage that’s thrown here, the more I’m ready to support him. How can you all claim to be Hillary supporters while doing what she’s asking us NOT to do?
I can’t believe what this place has turned into.
Oh please, stop with your self-righteous rant…Just because we support Hillary, we should do everything she asks us to do? I thought this is America.
It’s Obama who should be convincing Hillary supporters that he has the experience, judgment, and integrity to be president. If you’ve been following current events you’d know that Obama does’t even respect Democratic values, and he has done absolutely nothing to show people that he is trustworthy. The list of flip-flops grows longer each day.
By the way, it’s stupid to vote for someone just because they are from the right party.
The Global Village Courthouse Square.
Your comment is the same nonsense (and almost the exact wording) used during the primary (e.g., “I wasn’t even a fan of Obama until you all said bad things about him.”)
And now the new rally call, “Hillary said you should support him.”
You are a troll for Obama.
AND, you are placing a political party above your country.
That is how dictators take control countries.
Protesters founded this country.
British loyalist could not believe minutemen could feel so un-loyal to the crown.
Your Tea is going to be tossed in the harbor.
get over it!
LEAVE THE SITE IF IT’LL MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER
I’ll pray for you to come to your senses….
You might like to read, The Average American by Kevin O’Keefe.
Quote: Average Americans are “independent thinkers. We have this image that the average American is lacking in smarts.”
Independent thinkers…WE don’t do what some one says just because they said it. Unlike little fearful Obots that refuse to be american independent thinkers, we ARE America. Deal with it!
PUMA
As a “loyal Democrat” I am shocked, shocked that people are exercising their right to vote.
Loyal Democrat, if you would like to see what real, putrid, all consuming hatred is, go to Kos. Most of us here won’t vote Obama because we are/were loyal Democrats. His flipping on FISA should be enough for any “LOYAL” Democrat. Go in PEACE, but just please GO.
When Obama and his thugs become democrats Ill vote for them. Being a democrat does not mean mouthing off democratic ideas and then voting republican and adopting republican strategies.
As far as I’m concerned Obama has not yet shown me he is a democrat-I really have no idea what the man is, or how his death threat leveling supporters stay out of jail.
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/absoluteproofofafixedprimaryelection.aspx
Primary Fixed, check write up and video about SD’S
I’m a 44-year old white male who, since reaching the age of eligibility, has voted for: Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore and Kerry. I vote in every election and I have voted for exactly ONE Republican in my entire life, for Governor of Vermont in 1986. I live in a very liberal suburb of Washington DC (Obama signs everywhere, up since the primary and apparently staying up till November.)
I will NOT vote for Obama. I WILL vote for McCain.
Wow, I can’t believe how many Obama supporters simply don’t get it. “How can you claim to be Hillary supporters while doing what she’s asking us NOT to do?” Really, that just says it all about the Obamabots: “your leader is telling you what to do? Why aren’t you just DOING IT?’
Trying to explain to people like you, “Loyal Democrat,” how we can use our own brains and make our own decisions in clearly just a waste of time.
There’s the door.
John: don’t waste your time. That guy (and the other 799) are paid Obama trolls and they post nearly the same message at every site.
Latino’s against Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa1-pJMeBkc
I still don’t get this. In my state, the county rents the polling places. They hire the election judges. They own the voting equipment, and they tabulate the vote. That’s all on my local tax dollar. The state officially certifies the ballots, I presume by using more of my tax money.
How can a political party come in and overturn results from a process, which, I perceive, as higher than any party authority?
How can any political party come in and change, hijack, or over rule the vote of the people in an election which has been paid for not by the political party but by the people?
That’s the rub. The DNC isn’t picking up the tab for these caucuses and primaries are. The people are. Then they’re votes “don’t count” and strangers can vote in their caucuses. Seems the kids that were bused from Chicago should have voted in their own caucuses. It’s cheating, isn’t it and anti-democratic when they yell at and intimidate voters, isn’t it. The DNC wonders why its coffers are drying up.
As for me, I maybe a white woman; but I am not old poor or stupid. Comment on the size of my a$$ and I will put a boot up yours!
I can understand how you’d be so confused
I don’t envy you
I’m a little bit of everything
All rolled into one
I’m a bitch, I’m a lover
I’m a child, I’m a mother
I’m a sinner, I’m a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I’m your hell, I’m your dream
I’m nothing in between
You know you wouldn’t want it any other way
So take me as I am
This may mean
You’ll have to be a stronger man
Tuppence411, thanks for the lyrics. I am first and foremost a woman. Everything else I am flows from that idenity. I am a PUMA because I am an optimist. I don’t believe in quitting and that’s why I believe in Hillary. There is a void in this country that PUMA can fill now and long after the election is history. We must take back our Party for the sake of a viable two party system. If not, we will lose our Democracy. PUMA and jsnd are providing a means to fight. When did Democrats become so timid and fearful? I am not ready for Pelosi, Reid and the rest who have conceded to Bush and gone back on the promises of 2006. Or Brazil and Dean who are squandering the opportunity to find solutions in their ego driven coup. I am middle aged, white, female, advanced education, just trying to keep up with the bills, happy with my husband and my children and grandchildren, still hoping it is not too late for America to be all that it can be and PUMA.
I’m an asian, first generation american, 30 yrs old. I have voted dems since I got my citizenship, NOT THIS TIME!!!
I’m voting mccain and repub straight down ticket (unless there are some good dems that I trust like Mark warner, or stephanie tubbs jones).
I live in northern VA, I cannot tell you how many people are getting turned off that fraud, some who voted for him in the primaries. Now, they are backing mccain!
Obama opened 20 offices in VA, and McCain’s co-chair Chris Saxman called them Potemkin Villages. It’s good to hear that confirmed.
I wrote a piece called “An Idiot’s Guide to Barack Obama.” Good for a laugh:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/15078
58-year-old business MAN here and a PUMA. Why? Equally because of (1) the Democratic Party’s sexist and undemocratic treatment of Senator Clinton and (2) the corruption of Barack Obama — a man who colluded with a convicted criminal to purchase side-by-side properties on the same day.
All that said, though, I will NOT be voting for John McCain — who, IMHO, is a decrepit (and equally corrupt as Obama) example of the Republicanism I’ve opposed my entire life. Instead, I will withhold all contributions to Obama and the national Democrats, sending them instead to sites such as this and to down-ticket Dems, and when voting in November, will skip the top line on the ballot and cast my vote for worthy Democratic candidates for Senate, Congress, state, and local offices.
And what will I do if all this leads to a McCain victory? First, I’ll toast the defeat of a corrupt Obama (and his rabid partisans) and then I’ll go about enduring another 4 years of Republican control of the Executive, knowing it will be thwarted by a clear Democratic majorities in Congress — all while waiting for the Party to come back to its senses and conduct a fair primary absent the thug controlled process of 2008.
Why do the Obamanites come here looking for UNITY
DUH…PUMA (party unity my Ass) NOOBAMA NEVER.
PUMA is the revolution of the people, growing by the millions daily. We wont back down, we wont fall in line so move on and “Get Over It”
OVAH
Diamond Tiger…very impressive. Thank you. I sincerely appreciate it. (I actually teared up some when I heard Barbara live on the radio.) Also, thank you to Lee M., Nez Perce Nation, I learned something. Sadly, it does not surprise me. Glad to see a proud Native American PUMA. I’ll come back to post why I am a PUMA. Thank you again, Diamond Tiger.
Party Unity My ASS!
NO DEAL
Good, thorough original post; Thanks.
I was not originally a supporter of Clinton. I voted for Edwards. When I heard Barack Obama say during the NH primary that “a light was going to shine down and that you would go out and vote for Obama” I thought that indicated that Obama had a huge problem with narcisscism. Nothing since then has made me change my mind. Obama is a “flip-flopper”, he voted for telecom immunity among other things. Obama has nasty friends and associates, he disrespects women (No excuse for calling a professional newswoman “sweetie”.). How Florida and Michigan were handled was a disgrace to democracy. Obama is a corrupt Chicago politician. I am appallled that the base of operations of the DNC has been moved to Chicago. I think Obama lacks the experience to be President. The behavior of a number of Obama supporters is terrible. (I was almost run off the road and cursed at by one of them). You couldn’t pay me to vote for Obama, and I have been a Democrat since the 70’s. I’m not poor, except insofar as the entire middle class is struggling right now. I have a Master’s Degree. I’m not old unless in Obamaland “old” is over 45, and it insensitive ignoramuses like the one quoted in the initial article who think people who are women, poor, heavy and “old” who don’t vote for Obama are worthless human beings. Yes, Obama and some of his followers-they certainly bring “hope and change” don’t they? LOLOL.
I am a PUMA and proud of it.
Another PUMA and proud of it. None of us here fit the PUMA criteria set forth in the article or in the accusations by Obots.
Now. Here’s a little game: How many Obot propagandists posting here are over 45? Don’t live in their parents basement? Think that Cheetos are a food group? Consider the yearly highlight is the Gamer’s Convention as THEE pinnacle of fly? Paid income taxes in the middle to highest brackets? Have actually served in the armed forces? Have held jobs with responsibility and salary above minimum wage?
Come on. We want to hear from you. But we don’t know if we will believe you since you Obots have a propensity to lie. Let us know and we’ll change our perceptions of you.
However, it will not change our votes. We will not accept or vote for Obama… EVER!
PUMA!!!
I’m a PUMA because of the hijacking of the Democratic Party by the Rules and Bylaws committee. I’m a PUMA because of the juvenile and insulting tactics of Barack Obama, in particular the middle finger salute, the brushing off of his shoulders and shoes, the Annie Oakley comments, the playing of 99 Reasons but the Bitch ain’t one of them at the Iowa rally, his incessant demands to see Hillary’s tax records in an attempt to find a smoking gun while simultaneously withholding his own records and the sudden disappearance of his state senate records, his total of 146 days in the US Senate where he didn’t accomplish a single thing except to name a post office, his arrogance and smug attitude that Hillary couldn’t get his supporters but he can get hers, as if he is somehow guarenteed the election without having to even work for it, or for our votes, I am a PUMA because of the bitter, gun totin, religion clinging comments,I’m a PUMA because of Jeremiah Wright and Michelle Obama, I’m a PUMA who is a 51 years old woman with a Bachelor’s in History from Virginia Tech, a married woman of 30 years with a husband who is a Vietnam Vet, 2 sons, one of whom is 24 years old with cancer and no insurance, and he is one of the 15 million who would be left out of Obama’s Universal Health Care because of a pre existing condition. This election was too important to me and millions of others for the Democratic Party to step in and fix it for their chosen one. This country needed Hillary Clinton, we nominated her with the popular vote. And for them to overturn our votes and say they don’t count is outrageous and we cannot allow it to stand and be validated by our votes in November. They turned their backs on the people in this country, and took our voices and our votes and threw them out the door. So I turn my back on them. I am now an independent, and I will vote for McCain in November. Which is why I am also a very proud PUMA.
Obama is going down to defeat — either in August or in November. The GOP hasn’t yet started their ad campaign (except WA state is attacking early — they are going to take out the current Dem Governor).
Obama is going down to defeat — all Narcissist lose but not before they sucker in a lot of people.
I’m a Democrat Puma in WA voting against the Governor. This time I’m voting for the Republican Rossi for a couple of reasons. First the Governor endorsed Obama when both our Senators backed Hillary. Pay back to Kerry who gave her 250,000.00 to pay court costs in a recount. Second she gave huge amounts away - millions in tax breaks that this State can use right now, in back room deals to the casinos - and in return the casinos gave her hundreds of thousands in donations.
Convienant.
Northwest..
Obama has been defeated ever since the Wisconsin primary.
It’s been a slow motion train wreck in progress!
Please continue to classify me as you wish===dem, republican, old, white, poor, illiterate! Guess what…I don’t care! Iwill never vote for this piece of “flotsom”! And all whites don’t have Klan robes under their pillow! I’m getting fed up with this!
thank you for this post Diamond.
The core reason I am a PUMA:
beyond my personal view of Obama as unqualified,
beyond my support for Sen. Clinton as a candidate whom I believe would be one of the best POTUS’ in our history;
the core reason I can not support the party in this nomination of Obama is the actions of the RBC on 5/31.
All that led up to it was indicative of a fixed process, but as a lifelong Democrat, and someone who identifies my core values in large part with my political party, I may have gotten past everything else, may have been able to follow Hillary’s lead for unity.
However when the RBC had a closed door meeting violating the Rules,
and then came out and gave dels from a protected Constitutionally recognized status of no preference/undeclared, which is protected under Charter of our party and Rule 13A,
to a candidate who elected to remove their name from the ballot
and FURTHER when the RBC then, STOLE 4 dels from Sen Clinton, representing the votes of 80,000 Democrats in MI who VOTED for Sen Clinton, they eliminated our fair expression and the core of our values as Democrats: the right to vote and have the vote recognized and protected and CHERISHED.
This is beyond all bounds what the Party has done thru the RBC ruling and the following of that ruling used to eliminate the opposition to their selected nominee,
this is not a free open fair process, this is not Democratic or democratic
If we support this, we will NEVER have a FREE FAIR ELECTION AGAIN.
That is how I see it.
PUMA
(registered when I turned 18 as a DEM and have voted for every DEM in every single election in the 20 years since, up and down the ticket, gave to DSCC DCCC DNC ,no longer. This cannot stand or we lose all we are.)
I am a PUMA because I believe the DNC violated one of the most fundamental of all constitutional rules, that once a vote is cast it must be counted as it was cast. Several Supreme Ct. decisions uphold that fundamental right, and confirm that it does apply in primaries as well as general elections. Also, one person’s vote cannot be valued more than the vote of another. So, it was clearly against the law to give Obama some of Clinton’s delegates, as it was against the law to halve the votes of MI and FL.
In the DNC choosing to interpret the votes of the people as they wished, they effectively selected the nominee they wanted instead of the one elected by the people. There are many, many reasons I feel the nominee they selected is unfit. Some of them are:
* His support of FISA
* Background of corruption
* Very thin resume of legislative accomplishments
* Takes credit for accomplishments of others
* No real plan for the future of the country
* No real plan to fix healthcare
* The legislation he has supported shows that he is for increasing profits of big oil/energy with billions in taxpayer dollars
* He has made it harder to sue a company when injured by a faulty product showing he really doesn’t care about the people
* He has shown he doesn’t really care about our children by not voting for laws to protect them from guns and sex at school
* He did not do his job very well in the IL Senate or the US Senate, shown by the number of “present” votes
* He has shown that he is sexist
* He has yet to win an election fair and square, but relies instead on dirty politics for his advancement
* He looks to be the same or worse than a third term of Bush
We cannot and will not accept a nominee who is unfit for the presidency… one who has been selected, not elected. We have had enough of that.
Our representatives are not standing up for the rights of the people, so the people must stand up for their own rights and hold our representatives accountable.
PUMA
Guess what happened this past weekday morning (July 16)? On a fluke I went to the Rockefeller Starbucks in my bldg for a free coffee and saw Harold Washington there. He kind of waved at us a we looked at him,then I HAD to go up to him. I apologized for
interupting and complimented his commentating and then asked him when they were going to start reporting on PUMA Democrats? He said he hadn’t heard of PUMA’s so I gave him some quick info and the person with him (NBC correspondent, Ron Allen, NBC News) gave me his card and told me to e-mail him information which I did–giving websites, etc.
NOW, MAYBE..someone will report our cause? Or most likely they have their own reasons to ignore us?
Thanks for your bold move. We PUMAS are making a difference.
By the way, how come there haven’t been ANY Obots on to defend themselves against their stereotype or prove my assertion posted above wrong?
Not that we care if they do.
PUMA
I had a bad, bad feeling in my gut about BO from the start. Just could never put my finger on what it was all about. He’s a democrat; I’m a democrat - we should all believe and want to work for the same things. Right? Then it started. The media started fawning on one candidate and lambasting another - using the old double standard - race vs. gender. Then there was the race-baiting before SC. Then while doing some research online I came across the ‘hidden’ news about BO and his various associates. The list continued to grow - Rezko, Bill Ayers, Weather Undergound - as did my leariness of the messianic candidate. Who is he? What does he believe? Where’s his judgment to hang out with these people for all those years? And then came Reverand Wright and Father Pfleger. Two of the strangest characters falling out of his closet. Almost topped the cake for me, but then what really did it was the ’stretching the truth’ about his associations, not being forthright, and more recently the man becomes like a fish out of water with all his fli-flops on major issues. What is with people that they could vote for this man when we’ve got so many problems facing us right now that need an experienced, steady hand on our nation’s rudder, not a symbolic candidate. He’s a naive, arrogant, empty suit of a politician. Nothing more. And the DNC has done us so very wrong.
http://nobamanation.org
Thank you so much for this post. How wonderful if this would be reported in the mainstream media. But of course, they are too busy pushing their own selfish agenda.
It started in January with MSNBC/NBC — when a network is so busy telling me who I should be voting for, I get very suspicious.
The relentless trashing of the far more qualified candidate, Senator Clinton, by most news media, NBC and CNN in particular, tells me I SHOULD vote for her — news networks are owned by corporations. The corporate stranglehold on this country does not want someone who will give a damn about the working class, stop outsourcing jobs and cut off tax loopholes or take on big oil. She voted correctly to stop the FISA bill last week — I’m sure telecommunications companies were much happier with Obama pandering to them by giving them retroactive immunity — and pissing on the 4th amendment — the way he promised he would NEVER do.
As I have stated many times, I will not vote for Senator Obama in November for the same reason I did not vote for him in February — he is not qualified to do the job.
The majority of his pledged delegates were won in February — before we knew of Wright, Pfleger, Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, Bitter Gate, NAFTA Gate and before he reneged on FISA, public financing, womens’ rights, gun control and Iraq and Iran.
What does this man stand for? Can you tell me? I will not vote for him just because he falsely calls himself a “Democrat.”
He has run a divisive and despicable campaign — he stands for nothing. He believes in nothing but covering his own behind.
He has shamelessly played the race card to his own advantage, and has done a great disservice to the African American community by this action. He has never done one thing for that community and is using them just like he is using anyone foolish enough to belief his empty pandering and shape shifting rhetoric.
I was a die hard Democrat for 30 years, and I have left the party over this.
typo…
believe
Excellent post–thank you!
I am a PUMA because Barack Obama’s resume is no bigger than a postage stamp, and this country is on life support. If one needs open heart surgery, you don’t choose someone who has only done a few cases. You need someone with lots of experience, and who has been successful in his operations. Read the New Yorker for a comprehensive review of this candidate’s accomplishments. The only thing he seems good at is being a ruthless politician.
I registered as a Democrat in 1974 when I turned 18. I voted for Carter (twice) Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton (twice) Gore and Kerry. I have never voted for a Republican in any election be it National, State or local. I believe in the ideals I have always thought the Democratic Party held dear. I believe in the right to choose, I believe in equal rights for all Americans. I believe in free and equal education for all. I believe in universal health care.I believe in taking care of our children, old people and the poor. I believe in free and fair elections. But most of all I believe in defending the Constitution of the United States. All of those other things I believein will be fine if we protect our Constitution.
I do not belioeve in having a few DNC bigshots choose the candidate they want, then throw every obstacle they can dig up to eliminate any other candidate. I do not accept the right of the DNC to condone sexism and misogynism in order to fix an election. I do not believe in taking delegates earned by one candidate and arbitrarily and illegally handing those delegates over to another candidate who was not even on the ballot. I could go on forever about how the party I have beleived in and trusted for 35 years to carry the standard of Democratic ideals, has betrayed me over the last several months.
In fact I guess I could go back a couple of years when Democrats started rolling over and giving away our rights. The Military Commissions Act marked the beginning of my disillusionment with my party. I could not believe my Democratic Senator and Congressman would vote for that abomination. I stomped out to my yard and pulled up my John Salazar signs that day. I did not vote for John Salazar that election. I could not bring myself to vote for a Republican, but he didn’t look much better. So, I left that line blank.
This time, I don’t know what I will do. I will never vote for Barack Obama. I figure I have several months to decide and for the first time in my life I am free to decide for myself who I think best represents my belief system.
I no longer feel any obligation to that Party which feels no obligation to me or 18 million other voters. Actually they feel no obligation to any American citizen or to the Constitution itself. The Democrats control both houses of Congress and the nonstop assault on the Constitution is now blood on their hands.
I’m so glad to read a post like yours! I have alway’s voted Democratic tickets too. Except last year i was so angry at Cantwell that I voted for the third party candidate against her. She won a huge vicotory here in WA State but at least I felt good about my vote.
I was angry at Hillary once too because everyone said she voted to give Bush authority to go to war with Iraq. Then I read the truth the media and liberal blogs would never tell us. She had a statement with her vote and now I respect that vote and she has never flip flopped on her belief or vote to do the right thing. I think she would be an AWESOME President! I hold out hope.
My vote for McCain is I see him a good American Politician. I see truth and integrity. I see that he would be good for this country more so than I see Obama who mortally wounded this party to get where he is today. My vote for McCain if not for my first pick it is so that Obama can’t win. leaving my vote for President might just help Obama and I cannot do that in good conscience. Good luck with your vote decision.
A good politician….LOL….Obama says we need to talk w/Iraq…guess what? We are talking with Iraq.
Obama says we should send more troops to Afghanistan….guess what? Now Bush and McSame agree with him.
I want a president who gets it right the 1st time. What about you?
Oh please, he stole Hillary’s positions. And Mccain’s. He’s a thief and a liar and he’s really friggin’ ugly.
But from the posts here I understand that McCain’s your guy…right?
Obama wants to invade Pakistan, too. Is he right about that?
Does anyone know if Hillary can still take the rules committee vote to the Credentials Committee for a ruling at the Convention? Before they changed the Democratic Convention to “all about Obama” they stated at the Democratic Convention website that on the first day of the convention they usually take care of business matters like issues for the Credentials Committee. I haven’t seen anything about this and seeing the above video reminded me of what Ickes said at the May 31 travesty of justice.
I became a PUMA after the RBC theft of democracy. I lost respect for Obama during the Alito hearings. He
had no concern at all that Alito would be put on the Supreme Court; it meant nothing to him. In his charming “you’re likeable enough” nonchalance he said the Alito cloture was “not going to happen”.
Didn’t look up from blackberry and couldn’t have cared less. A true democrat would have at least addressed our concerns, but not Obama. That’s when I knew he was a prick.
I’m going to say PUMA in November and vote for John McCain because I AM NOT AFRAID. I DON’T LIVE IN FEAR OF REPUBLICAN AMERICANS - some Democrats might (it is thier perogative) to like living in fear of their fellows but I don’t and I’m certain there are a lot of pumas that do not live in fear but when needed as now more than ever, they stand up for truth and integrity and have a value system firmly in place where others may not.
I was appalled at what the Obama did to call Hillary a racist and President Clinton a racist and me a racist - not to mention all the other ugly names and hateful childish rumor’s Obama spread to hurt Hillary and steal the presumptive nomination from her for now.
I loved the one I heard at my caucus - this guy said to me: “how can you vote for a woman for President when the Middle East will not listen to her - they disrespect and women and will never listen to a Woman President” That made me so angry that I let the guy have it - by saying to him, you’re disrespecting women right now. And you may base your vote for Presient on how the Middle East “thinks”?! say’s you! BUT I am an American and my vote belongs to me not men from “the Middle East” who you say and he went on to tell me how “they treat their women” MY GOD! I said - I totally disagree the premis that they would disrespect President Hillary Clinton! That would be their biggest mistake. AND YOURS! I’m done with your antidote.
I will never - never vote for Obama - I find him the most arrogant, egotistical maniacal maniac I have ever seen enter the race for President. What a piece of work.
You should stop with all the lies. Maybe Hillary would respect you then, but as it stands she has distanced herself from you and groups like yours because of the blatant lies being told about Senator Obama. At least base your vote on the truth.
Hey YOLY. Take a hike, botboy. We’re pissed off and not about to eat cake. Get it?
I came here to see what the fuss was about and I find some angry Hillbots…..guess what? Time to turn the page.
Oh, well it looks like we’re not Republicans today. How many posts did you have to read through before you saw for yourself that these Hillary supporters are angry and ready to turn the page? No nomination to challenge Obama at the convention adds up to more votes for McCain than Obama can afford.
Just in case you wondered…
We are FDR/Reagan/Clinton/McCain Democrats.
We decide every election!
Your democrat selection doesn’t meet the min requirements for the job of president.
We are looking for a much better experienced candidate in a time of great crisis.
We are looking for a candidate with core values and convictions that have passed many laws and stood behind them despite opposition.
We are looking for a candidate that values country before party, country before self.
We want a candidate who will defend America and will never surrender and will never cause America to be humiliated.
John McCain won the Iraq war for America!
Obama wished defeat for America and therefore is disqualified from being president by the voters who decide all elections.
Check out this article in worldnet.com about Obama’s Birth Certificate a fake. It’s already been deleted though, you can’t access the web page.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
But you plan to vote for McCain and he wasn’t born in the United States. Hypocrites All!
You moron. There are thousands of babies born on military bases through out the world every year, are you trying to say they aren’t US citizens? Do the world a favour, go choke on your tongue.
Bitter, still huh? You sound like a Republican Troll trying to stir the pot. You can’t tell where to post you and Rush Limpballs can kiss my Democratic ARSE!
Soooooo Obamabit, how long have you been a democrat? Bitter no. Just angry enough to hunt you down and blow your head off. Just messin’ with ya man. How’s it feel to be on the receiving end of hate?
Doesn’t bother me one bit. Hillary helped us develop a thick skin. LOL
Foreskin? Eh? Dude, you’re no fun. Not much of a challenge. Where’s believe for a good cyber sparring session?
Whew. That was fast. “Republican troll” is back.
I prefer posting here to choking….NOW WHAT!
Well from what I hear, chokin your chicken does get old after awhile. I’m sure Barky knows all about that, being married to Michelle.
Well at least he not Bill Clinton (the endless cheater) and John McInsane (the wife deserter).
I’d do Bill anytinme, anywhere and considering his 65% approval rating, I’m guessing so would many more women out there. By the by, what’s that ugly ass barky’s approval rating, around 40%, and he hasn’t even been nominated yet? Wow, you’re backing a real winner there.
“Wife deserter?” He legally adopted her two children from another man. Their marriage was weakened while she didn’t know if he was dead or alive for the five years he spent in a POW camp. He came back like many Vietnam veterans a changed man. She had suffered a disfiguring car accident while he was gone and felt like a different person. Obama’s uncle stayed in the attic for 6 months after he liberated the Jews in Auschwitz from his boat. Surely, you have more respect for the suffering of our men and women in uniform that to use their personal lives to detract from their service and blame them for their human frailties. In a world where the divorce rate is around 50%, McCain, though he is a close friend to his first wife, is a “wife deserter.” Apparently you’re more interested in a candidate’s personal life than how well they can do their job. It’s a good thing you preachy, smug tabloid voters don’t usually turn up to vote. You’re too depressed that your politicians are mere mortals and undeserving of your vote.
The Clinton numbers are in for June and her debt actually INCREASED by $1 million. To read the posts here you would think she was good at campaigning and money raising.
The NYT Caucus blogs reports that there is $12 million left, a little less than half of her debt. This article was from July 18, and the figure is consistent with the claims from PUMA Will Bowers. That puts her in the black.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/that-clinton-debt-comes-calling/
You’re a liar, and so is your shitty candidate.
Hey, NO BIGOTRY, GO BACK TO YOUR OBAMABOTIC CAVE AND LEAVE US ALONG, TRASHTALKER!
get lost creep and go scrub your brain with fertilizer…used for gas…
you belong in bed with your preciuos barack at the baracks!!!!
No, Your Barky is a crack-smoking, Down-Low Brother getting head in the backseat of a rented car by Larry Sinclair.
I am a PUMA and I will vote for McCain. There is no way I want Obama as POTUS. He is not up for the job.
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I am an old white woman who will never support barky no matter how much I am threatened by the dnc. They are all hypocrites who do not practice what they preach.
I live in the country, have a gun, thump my bible regularly, drive a pickup, and I am bitter as hell about the way the dnc has treated core democrats and Hillary. They don’t need us and we sure as hell don’t need them. BTW if they don’t need us why do they keep sending emails and letters asking us for money? Hmmmm
I plan on contacting McCaskill’s office as often as I can about her endorsement of barky. I will request nicely “yeah right” that she withdraw her endorsement of barky and vote for the popular vote candidate at the convention or my family and I (there are 8 of us) will withdraw our vote from her the next time she runs for senator. I chewed on her real bad when her first endorsement came out but she didn’t seem to notice. Guess I will have to keep chewing.
old poor white (scot irish/cherokee-melungeon) woman here! yes, I’m a PUMA, I was a PUMA from the moment I first read Party Unity My Ass on Riverdaughter and then watched it explode into an insipient 3rd party. My family has been dem for generations and if any of these obama twinks think they can just march in and continue the trashing and raping of america without a fight, they are in for a big surprise. Party Unity My Ass!
This is Barbara, your 63 yr old black female Hillary supporter, the same one in the link to the blog talk radio. Although it is way past too late for Obama to “change” his tune and start to respect HIllary’s voters, he will not. The truth is with George Bush’s faith-based initiative, he believes he can get some of the right-wing voters to vote for him and counteract our votes. Well after the latest trash talking sexist innuendoes listed below he will continue to strike out with me.
1. To cheers, at a rally outside Atlanta, Obama referenced the rapper Lil Wayne as follows: “maybe you are the next Lil Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school”. Now he could have used any rapper but he chose Lil Wayne. Why? He had to be aware of the lyrics to his song. May be the following lyrics explains why and why the crowd laughed and cheered so wildly:
“I get on top
She drop it like its hot
And when I’m at the bottom
She be Hillary Rodham”
2. At a fundraiser for himself and Hillary Clinton Bernie Mac told a sexist joke about whores (ho’s). Two women in the joke (his wife and daughter) each agreed to have sex with a man for $50,000. Bernie’s true meaning and insinuation were regarding the $100,000 total. Remember the latest news that week was that the Obama large donors had raised less than $100,000 for Hillary. Bernie’s whole meaning was to call Hillary a Ho (whoring after Obama donors for money) and getting only $100,000 for her effort. Obama pretended to call him to task then said “just kidding man” OBAMA IS A SICKO-A**HOLE.
Yes, I agree Obama is A SICKO!
He did hte rapper video “OBama gives Hilary the Finger” and he used his midfinger in front of his audience. SMIRKING!! amazing how he gets away with this shit.
NOBAMA - he’s a sexist pig from the Chicago sewers
YOUR QUOTE FROM MSNBC WAS FROM A COMMENTER.
PLEASE SEE OBAMA’S OWN QUOTE back in March:
“I don’t need HER supporters; I will get her supporters anyway if she loses. But if I win, she won’t have many of MY supporters” !!!!!!
Check Obama’s own words! This smug., arrogant idiot should go back to Chicago crack houses and racist churches where the pastor does sex act simulations in front of children at Trinity’s Church. Shame on Him!
HEY,
WHAT THE HELL’S WRONG WITH OLD, WHITE, BITTER AND MENOPAUSAL WOMEN? AREN’T THEY VOTERS, TOO?
SHAME ON YOU!!
This is NOT a McCave or Obamyopic site! So, why the exclusion? Tell me to my face!!!!
GO, PUMAS, roar!
I am a proud PUMA because Sen. Obama was not elected but selected undemocratically by the DNC. Why did the DNC not adhere to its own constitution and “fair reflection”?
Sexism in the media allowed Obama to reach a “finish line” that he would otherwise not be entitled to. Not a single media outlet treated Hillary Clinton as uncritically as they did Obama throughout the campaign. Obama himself said various misogynist comments and agreed with Bernie Mac’s “comic” routine that “mothers” and “sisters” can be had for the right price and that “family Hos” is what men live with!
Watched “Obama gives Hillary teh Finger” on youtube!? You’ll see him “flip-offing” his fellow senator and smirking while audience ‘clues in’…Amaazing and totally inappropriate for a presidential candidate to behave in such an immature, juvenile fashion!! SHAME ON BARACK
oh my god i am a proud liberal, democrat from minnesota. we vote democrat in just about everything, altho pawlenty and coleman in senate and governor has a lot to do with the wide encompassing right wings from the twin cities. but if you “democrats” turned PUMA honestly believe that since obama does not agree with a few details that are required of “your democratic candidate” than you are insane. i don’t mean to sound like a prick but listen to what you people are trying to justify..it reminds me of an elementary school pick-up game when a few certain kids won’t play cause they did not get picked by their friends. thats what you people sound like it. i’m sorry hillary didn’t win, she ran a good election, but she was 2ND BEST and thats the most important fact. and i don’t recall any of you people whining about michigan and florida until way after hillary won those states, and michigan should not count at all since the candidates were told it would not count, so how can you punish barack for not campaigning there??? go ahead, vote mccain, send our country further into the shitter, and 5 years from now when either yourself, your children, grandchildren, or someone close to you is being enlisted into the war via the draft, thank yourself for putting the war-mongering, future suspect of the Hague, for declaring war on iran. that certainly pays off for all your pouting of hillary not winning, she’ll be real proud of you people. oh, and i love the blog by one of the people above about how obama will start a war to remain in office for 8 years..are you freaking serious??? do you know anything about the man, or are you simply jumping on the hate bandwagon that PUMA is starting. (sigh) what a sad, sad country we have become, where a brighter future is in reach but might not become attainable due to a few ignorant people..god bless obama, and may we grant him the chance to be the greatest president ever
First of all don’t worry. The 50 disgruntled lunatics that post on this site will make no difference in this election.
There is no point in even trying to reason with them. They only read articles that support their cause, and they NEVER look at both sides of the argument. They cherry pick everything. You know those crazy people that you hear about that think Obama is a Muslim who is just trying to get elected so he can bring in his whole corrupt Muslim clan and take over the country? These are those crazy people. Don’t even bother getting upset by it. Just look at it as entertainment. You know like watching your senile old uncle stumble around at family picnics talking about how he was abducted by aliens.
Are there really only 50 of you? I thought there were more.
I know some of you people talking all this hate for Obama are nothing more than disgruntled Hillary supporters whining about the fact that she lost. Why don’t you all use your energy to get the rest of those 18-19 million supporters to send Hillary $1.00 each and wipe out most of her debt?
I know some of you people talking all this hate for Obama are nothing more than disgruntled Hillary supporters whining about the fact that she lost. Why don’t you all use your energy to get the rest of those 18-19 million supporters to send Hillary $1.00 each and wipe out most of her debt?
We did.
No you didn’t. She raised $2.7 mil in Jun and actually had to lend her campaign anoth $1 mil right after she suspended.
Where did you get those numbers?
Small Donations Make Big Bucks for Obama
$30 of $50 Million in June comes from sums of $200 or less
Associated Press
Last updated: Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008 12:14:24 AM
Small donors have translated into big money for Barack Obama.
Of the 52 million dollars the Democrat raised in June, more than 30 million dollars came in individual sums of $200 or less. The Campaign Finance Institute says it\’s the highest amount raised in nuggets of $200 or less in the history of presidential fundraising.
Only a third of the 21.5 million Republican John McCain raised in June came from such small donors. Unlike Obama, McCain plans to accept 84 million in public funds for the fall campaign.
Hillary Rodham Clinton is facing mountains of debt for her failed attempt at the White House. The New York senator raised 2.7 million dollars from donors in June, but her personal loans to the campaign stands at 13.2 million. She reports owing vendors 12 million.
By MICHAEL LUO
Published: July 21, 2008
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton lent her campaign an additional $1 million at the end of June, underscoring the difficulty she is having staying ahead of creditors and retiring a mountain of campaign debt, filings with the Federal Election Commission show.
I would just post links but its not letting me
The fact that you didn’t know this information is really really telling.
That fact that you quoted information for the end of June and an Obama article first is really really really really really really really really telling. lol…
You guys are so pathetic. lol.
everyone has an opinion. whackjobs come in all shapes, color, sizes and political affiliations.
how about trying not to hate people so much? that would be a change for the better.
how about trying to rally for a common good instead of splintering off every time you run across something negative?
no president will ever be perfect. ever. however, i would like to give obama a chance to try. i seriously doubt he could do worse than our current president - although i am sure someone may disagree. it’s simply my opinion.
btw - Hillary voted to NOT ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas. Obama voted for the ban.
I’M HERE TO CONFIRM THAT DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWERS AND DARRAGH MURPHY AND THIS PUMA ORGANIZATION IS A HATRED GROUP AND A PAID THREAD FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. MSNBC, FOXNEWS AND OTHER NEWS AGENCIES ARE REVEALING THIS OF THESE INDIVDUALS. HEY, IF YOU WANT TO BE A RACIST THEN THATS YOUR THING. BUT DON’T SACRAFICE YOUR PARTIES INTEGRETY FOR SAKE OF FALLING IN TO THE LIES OF THESE RACIST INDVIDUALS.
THESE WANT TO BE LEADERS “DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWERS AND DARRAGH MURPHY.” HAVE BROUGHT THEIR CHARGES TO NEWS NETWORKS. BUT THE THING THEY CAN’T DO IS PROVE THEIR TRUE HATRED FOR OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IF YOU NOTICED THEIR RHETOREC IT ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL COMPLAINTS. THEY CLAIM TO HAVE MUCH OF MRS. HILARY CLINTON’S VOTERS SUPPORTING THEM? WHERE ARE ALL THE 17,000.000 COMMENTS.
THIS IS A BOGUS, RACIST GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS “DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWER AND DARRAGH MURPHY.”
REPUBLICAN BACKED PROPAGANDA GROUP WITH AN AGENDA TO SPLIT OUR TRADITIONAL WAY OF LIVING. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS HAD STRUGGLES BEFORE JUST TO REGROUP AND BECOME STRONGER. LETS CONTINUE THIS STRONG LEGACY AND SUPPORT OUR PARTY THAT OUR TROOPS DYING FOR.
DO YOU THINK OUR TROOPS WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT “DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWER AND DARRAGH MURPHY” ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU OF. ARE THEY DYING OVER SEA’S SO PEOPLE LIKE “DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWER AND DARRAGH MURPHY” CAN SPLIT OUR PARTY.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THEIR OVER THERE SAY’N I HOPE DIANNE MANTOUVALOS, WILL BOWER AND DARRAGH MURPHY CAN SPLIT OUR OWN HOME. THINK ABOUT IT AND ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS. DYING IN VAIN…IN VAIN?
LONG LIVE OUR STRONG DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND JUST SAY NO DEAL TO RACISM! NO TO RACISM! NO TO RACISM! NO TO DIANNE MANTOUVALOS..NO TO WILL BOWER AND NO TO DARRAGH MURPHY…
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