Barack Obama In “Open Disagreement” With Military Commanders
By SusanUnPC on July 21, 2008 at 7:27 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, Gen. David Petraeus, Iraq, Pentagon
ABC News correspondent Terry Moran interviewed Barack Obama who got a bit testy during the exchange.
“And then we sat down with [Barack Obama] to talk about what has become an open disagreement between military commanders here and Obama, over his plan to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq on a 16-month timetable.” — Terry Moran
Transcript . Barack Obama ABC Interview . July 21, 2008
ABC’s Terry Moran: “And then we sat down with [Barack Obama] to talk about what has become an open disagreement between military commanders here and Obama, over his plan to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq on a 16-month timetable. Did General Petraeus talk about military concerns about your timetable?”
Barack Obama: “You know, I would characterize the concerns differently. I don’t think that they’re deep concerns about the notion of a pullout per se. There are deep concerns about, from their perspective, a timetable that doesn’t take into account what they anticipate might be some sort of changing conditions. And this is what I mean when I say we play different roles. My job is to think about the national security interests as a whole, and to have to weigh and balance risks, in Afghanistan, in Iraq. Their job is just to get the job done here. And I completely understand that.”
Moran: “But the difference is real. Commanders here want withdrawals to be based on conditions on the ground. Obama emphasizes his timetable, but he insists he would remain flexible. I’m going to try to pin you down on this.” (continued below)
Obama: “Here let me say this, though, Terry, because, you know, what I will refuse to do, and I think that, you know ”
Moran: “How do you know what I’m going to ask?”
Obama: “Well, then if I don’t get it right, then you can ask it again.”
Moran: “All right.”
Obama: “Is to get boxed in into what I consider two false choices, which is either I have a rigid timeline of such and such a date, come hell or high water, we’ve gotten our combat troops out, and I am blind to anything that happens in the intervening six months or 16 months. Or, alternatively, I am completely deferring to whatever the commanders on the ground says, which is what George Bush says he’s doing, in which case I’m not doing my job as commander-in-chief.”
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Another Obama mistake:
Obama probably relied on one of his college professor advisers who has never lived overseas for this stupid advice:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11935.html
Our cartoonist PatRacimora will post a great cartoon mocking this — check tomorrow morning.
Hmmm-already starting the dress code for women to appease his Muslim friends. Perfect.
Obama is showing his true color.
so let me see if i got this straight.
he has over 300 foreign policy advisors telling him what to think and what to say.
and the best they can do is tell him and his cult NOT to wear any GREEN clothing for fear it may be misunderstood by some rascal of a blogger that might say “he’s showing his true colors”?
HELLO! WTF is that all about.
btw, green colors, at least in the good ole U.S.A. could be related to environmentalism.
good grief. this trip simply gets stranger by the minute.
Obama is running a new ad about how he reached across the aisle to Sen. Lugar(R) to push a bill through, Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Act 2007. Sen. Lugar made a statement about the ad to day:
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080716/NEWS0502/807160406
This is worth reading if you want another head scratcher. Sen. Lugar is a Republican from In., but some have suggested him as a running mate for Obama.
If you want to check out this bill Obama supposedly worked with him on you can go to senate.gov, go to Thomas and look for S.198.IS. I don’t see Obama’s name anywhere listed as sponsor, co-sponsor or arthur. I am just getting so frustrated. I know there is something wrong here and the last few days I have been feeling “the urgency of now”, if you know what I mean. Things are slipping away from the American people and there isn’t much time left to find out what it is.
I have a strong conviction we are no longer a two party system or, at least, we are close to that point. A one party system? Anyone? What is that called?
I think that the “urgency of now” is an onset of “la tourista.” Get thee to a ‘facility.’
How about three party system? It looks like that to me anyway. The Dem. Party is split in the middle. It has a slight chance to become permanent.
This might be the link you are looking for.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.02566:
Couldn’t find anything about bo being involved in the Lugar-Nunn bill, but this one came later and was supposed to be along the same lines. Lugar is a nice guy with loads of experience. Personally, I think he was just showing the ropes to the new kid on the block, and bo’s thesis (which they don’t want to release) was on the Solviet Union, as I understand it, so this would have been of interest to him (theoretically). bo did apparently work with Lugar on S. 02566, but it is hard to tell just how much. The bill had 26 co-sponsors and bo was one of the 26.
You are right to check out the legislative claims, since many are totally false.
Nobomma does not know how to tell the truth. He was brought up in South Side Chicago politics. Truth is a MAJOR inconvenience. Three parties, yes, NObama dems, Hillary Dems, and Republican. If not Hillary, vote for McCain.
It only took 300 foreign policy advisers to come up with this latest amateur display.
Gosh darn it, is the 300 advisers a light bulb joke? It sure sounds like one.
What a stupid asshole…did he outlaw black and red, too? And white?
Has this jerk had a gander at most of the FLAGS of the Middle East?
I can’t believe how stuuuuupid he is!! Did he outlaw “Israeli Blue” too, so people wouldn’t think he had a bias?
It sorta kinda looked like Obama was wearing green eye shadow. Is that his special code speak for his secret support? Meanwhile that ban of green for others is like him, lunatic and all about is control, control, control….
Does he think he’s already been elected? Sure sounds like he thinks so.
That was my thought exactly … in his mind, I think he just think’s it’s a matter of waiting until Jan … he said, “i’m not doing my job as commander in chief” …
it’s more of the audacity of ego driven personality disorder.
Just like he told some reporter in the Green Room at CBS that “You know I’m going to be the nominee.”
I won’t be surprised if the fix is in to put him the WH. The corporate media sure seem to be pushing him.
OHNO … NOT A GREEN ROOM?
He also said that Hillary would not get the support of his supporters, but he would be able to get hers. Ego Maniac…. him
what an arrogant piece of crap hussein is!!!!
Boy do I agree- and his “I I I ah ah ah, if if ah ah ah” he is an absolute embarrassment…….when are people going to wake UP?!?!?
See if that was Hillary, she would be clear and concise in talking to the reporter.
Honestly, when I hear Obama talk, it always reminds me of a dog sliding its butt across the floor, as if it has worms or something.
TeaMug,
they are called “Butt Scrapers”
yes, hillary would be in command of the conversation. she would be the one directing it.
this yahoo on the other hand, is a complete boob.
omg, he is so embarassing!!!
i pray condi is pulling the plug on funding as a poster downstairs stated.
I just read that passage to my wife. She looked at me kind of funny and said: “It isn’t his f*(king job. I thought Bush was still president.” In any case, Obama is the most arrogant SOB ever. He has real mental issues. The democratic party has made the most egregious mistake ever. To let a SOB like Obama get this close to the presidency makes me believe that the whole party needs to be disbanded and a new one constructed from the ground up.
I think Obama needs a reminder that it is President Bush who is in the White House and is the commander-in-chief.
Jesus you people are silly. He was obviously speaking about — having been asked about — what he would do as president. Don’t be moronic.
I notice that nobody here is talking about the day’s real gaffe, which was McCain the Clueless talking about conditions on the “Iraq/Pakistan border,” which of course doesn’t exist. This follows his comments last week about Czechoslovakia, which doesn’t exist either, and hasn’t since the early Nineties. It is McCain who is a doddering fool who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow, and Obama who is quickly showing himself to be the usual quick study that he is and appearing very sure-footed on his foreign trip.
Sorry, but any CIC wannabee who telegraphs a withdrawal timeline to the enemy is a pure idiot. Uneducated in nationality security, inexperienced in national security, and just plain stupid when it comes to common sense. He’s spending his “non-campaign” time over there incessantly seeking photo-ops and making a bigger fool of himself.
You want to put up a couple of gaffes that McCain made against pure stupidity?
Please, go back to your basement bedroom.
Quick study? ummmm ahhhh ummm the notion ahhh ummm “of a pull out per se”
Frakking brilliant I say.
Jake Tapper noted that people make these simple verbal mistakes all the time.
Anyone with kids here? Ever call one of your kids by the wrong name? Yep. Dozens of times.
Wait until the Middle East press gets a hold of Mr. Foreign Policy’s directive.
You must be dumber than dirt to do that or senile. My 90 year old grandfather on occasion does that but corrects himself very quickly. The only reason he does that is because he can’t see very well. As for me, I used to be a public school teacher and can honestly say that I have NEVER called a kid the wrong name. And I suck at names. What you are saying is that if I called my wife Penny instead of Joann then it would be perfectly alright. You are a nitwit.
Kind of like 57 states?
Kind of like calling a reporter sweetie because you can’t remember her name?
Kind of like not remembering Reverend Wright’s anti-American, anti-white sermons?
Kind of like not remembering who the real anybody was?
Take your dumber than dirt and say it 50 times while looking into the mirror. Maybe then, and only then, will you get the meaning of rote.
Kind of like saying “8-10 years” as Obama did about his presidency.
It was such a big gaffe HuffyPost started and opinion control game to define the “first gaffe” as coming from McCain.
I have three kids, and I call my older two boys by the wrong name all of the time. I get my daughter’s name right most of the time, though - but she’s 8 years younger and always wearing pink.
Just a data point…
plz , get help.
If she wears pink, America’s sheriff may pick her up. This site always makes me feel better. You guys and gals are FUNNY. Keep it up. You give me my daily fix. The news is so grim (usually about Nobomma) that I have to log on for a reality check.
Does Gramps put the Great Lakes in Oregon? Did he teach you about the fifty seven states? Does he think a US President serves, “Oh, about ten years?”
Gee, if Gramps does better on those questions than your pal BO, Gramps should be the “Presumptuous Nominee” there, ya NIKE.
Maybe I misread something but the guys post seemed like an apology for Obama who I think there is no excuse for. If not then I screwed up and apologize. I’ve just never heard of calling your own kids by the wrong name. Never. My mother never did that and there was 5 of us and two of my sisters look identical. It really seems like something Obama would do and not sane, rational people.
Hey, I am sorry for the comment katmandu. These damned nesting comments are difficult to read and I didn’t read the previous post correctly. I thought you were defending Obama on this. I am particularly annoyed at Obama’s narcissism and his blatant disregard f
Having problems with my computer tonight. I was trying to say that I was very annoyed by Obama’s lack of patriotism and his me, me, me attitude that I kind of went off at the hip. Sorry.
Not me. My mother always mixed up her daughters’ names. She had me at 19 (and graduated college and supported her parents who helped raise me while she worked in an ER. My father skipped out on her.) Anyway, she was a strong, young woman with a sharp mind and screwed our names up all the time.
You must be the greatest gift to the classroom since, uh, ah, Burlap Obambi.
The sign of a bad day for me is when I call myself the wrong name in my mental pep talks. e.g., Keep going, RKK, you can do it. or Well, RGG, that really is not an example of your best work, now, is it?
So there.
Just wait until Asians get a hold of this none funny cartoon, or PUMA or RNC. Read on and follow the links if you will.
Rolling Stone is one of many left-leaning entertainment-oriented publications to have gone totally into the tank for Barack Obama, editorially and “journalistically.”
Here is most of the opening two paragraphs of the screed by Matt Taibbi that the cartoon above accompanied:
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/McCainTortureRollingStone0708.jpg
Full Metal McCain
Haunted by the ghosts of Vietnam, the one-time maverick has transformed himself into just another liberal-bashing fearmonger
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/07/20/no-media-outrage-over-offensive-rolling-stone-mccain-cartoon
From the GMA site:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Yes, McCain misspoke but he and Diane were clearly talking about Afghanistan.
You can jump on this if you want, we certainly jump on the numerous Obama gaffes.
The clip does not show a clueless, doddering fool
John McCain was speaking out of respect in acknowleging PEOPLE who (believe it or not) still exist regardless of THE CHANGE in the name of their homeland and country.
That would be something like the Name of the Country that appears on their Birth Cerificates. A land, a Nation that they are proud of being born in and unto. Not everbody else in the world was born on the alleged day Barry Dunham was born. The world did not begin with his nativity nor the day he abandoned the US Senate to blow his wad.
When the name of America is changed to something inspiring, will that be OK with you?
Believe it or not - now this is a shocker - there are still people living and breathing over the age of 39…46 …pick a number.
Some people can be hypnotized in two seconds and some people can’t. It was a message. Listen again.
BWT: Barry, your Grandmother plans on baking ya a birthday cake. Try to stop by. Bring the Folks!
Yo! Ed Rendell, what do you think a good new for American would be? Pennsylvania needs a change to. Obama’s Woods? I’ll come up with something nifty. Houndsville?
I’d better go before a dead bunny is strung up on my door.
Hell they would sting ME on my door.
But not before I empty my clip and my dog has a snack.
Yeah, I cannot believe my head telling me to get one of those things. But I can’t believe I’d ever be clinging to my numerous ‘bibles’ and beloved texts. I didn’t even know that I could be antipathetic to persons differnt than me, either.
Bring on the bunnies. We care for the dead in my home. Shame on anybody that would kill a bunny to string up. Yep, they need a good shot to the alls, they do.
I was moved by your Quote tonight. It’s nice to honor our elders, even if they could only speak Greek 2000-3000 years ago.
Hey, where is Rendell anyway? Haven’t seen him lately. Howard Dean sure is hiding. Wuss. He sends Pelosi out to do all his dirty work! I wish she’d hide, too! I hate looking at any of them!
sfhillary,
You are completely clueless. No wonder you support Obama.
I listened to Obama on ABC NEWS tonight, the reporter asked Obama if he knew the Surge would work so well would you support it, he said no, he wouldn’t support the surge. Obama doesn’t want to admit the surge did work, I didn’t think it would but it did, I was wrong. Too bad Obama can’t say that.
Wasn’t it a riot watching him try to weasel out of that?
I agree with you. I didn’t think it would and I was wrong. Obama is the same as Bush. Bush still thinks there are WMD. He can’t admit he was wrong. Remember a question from the report asking about any mistakes he made and he couldn’t think of any.
Obama truly is Bush 3.
Not only that, to us older folks it was Czechoslovakia and now that region has all new names. I look at all those new names on a map and think to myself “since when has it been called that?” Some of those places I’ve never even heard of and I’m in my late 50s.
Shillary, Obama is showing himself to be the fool that he is.
Sorta like his 58 states?
Follow the links for your messiah speak which in others would be considered gaffes or LIES.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9570.html
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/316024,CST-NWS-sweet28.article
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/05/25/will-media-report-obamas-gaffe-about-when-hugo-chavez-came-power
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27/the-obama-gaffe-machine-rolls-on/
You are so right. The Democratic Party as it stands now needs to get dismantled. I have been a Democrat for 18 years and I am 39. Never have I been so disgusted or so mad!
Absolutely! I am so sick of him acting as though he has already been inaugurated! He hasn’t even WON the nomination YET!
He kills me! No Obama - Not ever!
puppy dog mom — Obama has already said — When I was a Senator. This is bizaro. But then believing that Barack Obama was the best person out their to be president because he had Community Organizing experience — is an insane concept.
He makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. Stutering and stammering and acting like he’s president is offensive.
His run on sentences with nonsensical interjections imply he is downright stupid. He is such a bullshit artist he makes zero sense. What the hell did he say? I hate the imbecile.
Coming next: Obama bans the colors blue and white because the Israeli flag is made up of these two colors.
The only exception made will be for the Obama Campaign Logo on Air Force–errr, I mean, the Obama Campaign Jet.
After all, it’s not like there are any important American symbols which use the colors blue and white, right?
It’s called:
Air Faux One.
Or:
Obama One. <- actually it really is called that.
obama is working toward the color BROWN — everyone can wear brown — natural brown — the politically correct color brown — we did not know WHICH shade of brown will be the Precious’ choice.
And of course the idiot obama is having disagreement with the military — he had absolutely no idea how the military operates or what it takes to move the military INTO a region or OUT of a region.
The planning and work involved in the deployment of a small squadron of airplanes is massive — multiply that times several thousand and that’s what it will take to get troops out.
Clinton said that she would consult with the military commanders on a safe exit or drawn down strategy. Obama is incapable of consulting or LISTENING. Apparently he wants the information to be distilled and then me make a royal command. Who the hell made him god?
When is this nightmare going to be over — I keep hoping that I will wake up.
PUMA!
How many o supporters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. They just declare the sudden darkness to be The Change We’ve Been Waiting For.
Funny, Katmoon. Thanks for the laugh.
geez, so do i.
i pray everyday that this craziness will end and soon.
co-workers are always coming up to me saying - “is the nightmare over yet”?
and i have to be the one that says, nyet. but keep the faith, REALLY, keep the faith!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HX6vbhAYaU
The above nghtmare may light your fire. Go to http://www.thedenvergroup.blogspot.com and donate for tv ads to stop this guy from taking dowm America.
Finally Obama has managed to insult the military too.
It is their duty to ‘get the job done here’, but he didn’t have to put it in such an insulting, dismissing manner.
If I wasn’t insulted by him many times over, I woud be now. I have a deep respect for our military and our generals. If they offer a different opinion on something, it sure as hell, they have a very good reason.
My mother is so upset about all this…she worries all the time that O will win. I try to assuage her fears by telling her the GOP is holding their fire for now, but she keeps on fussing about McCain…why doesnt he DO something?
Sigh…I worry about it, too…Almost praying that the GOP has ads ready that will make people forget about the media’s enabling efforts.
I can’t believe I just said that! But that’s how bad things have become…
Check out the primary colors planned for the delectable goodies for the convention.
also, i guess the turban he was wearing long ago was that of the Great Carnak … Obama thinks he can read reporters minds now
what next?
Obama will repeatedly interrupt the questions during his debate with John McCain, attempting to guess what the reporter is going to ask:
Reporter: “Senator Obama, what is your position on..”
Obama: “Poverty. I have a very strong anti-poverty program…”
Reporter: “Actually, I was going to ask you about Iraq– but that’s ok, I love to hear you talk about anything, so go ahead and talk about poverty.”
he just guess’s at the question based on what one of his 300 advisers listed as possible questions/answers. (ops guess i should’ve been better advised on that button).
Smaller government, larger advisory staff?
Good piece. When you don’t isolate a sentence or two and let the reader see a bit more context, it is clear what Obama means. And it is exactly right as far as I am concerned.
And the fact that he is willing to forcefully point out that under him we will have a civilian-led military (one of the principles that this country was founded on) is a good thing. Even though he will take heat on it from the right.
What the hell are you babbling about? The president has always and will always be the commander in chief. Obama isn’t going to change one damned thing. He is even more incompetent than Bush. At least Bush’s down home ignorant country boy image that he cultivated is partially fake. Obama didn’t even bother to pretend to be anything more than an arrogant ass. Bush reigned his ego and BS in until after being elected. You know, Obama is probably on his best behavior as well. If that doesn’t scare the hell out of you then you have absolutely no fondness for American values.
BTW - isn’t “I set the goal, the service people get my job done” the same pompous and ruinous attitude that Bush has adopted and DK and Friends (if he has any left!) have been screaming about.
Obama doesn’t have the skill or experience to set policy - so whatever he says, our poor troops have to make happen.
Ye gods!!
There is a blonde hair line between the creeps in office. Stop looking at the initial bearing their State/Commonwealth. Red and Blue are distractions. History.
The Republican and Democratic parties have long passed on. RIP.
The civilian control is designed to prevent a military coup.
It is not designed to override the judgment of ground commanders whose job is to fulfill their objectives and keep their troops alive.
Obama said he would rely on the the conditions on the ground and the opinion of commanders. I guess that no longer applies.
He’s done a 180 again.
There’s a surprise
If that is not a warning. Inever heard sirens blasting to close the drapes hide and bury my head.
What is that and why isn it being ignored?
What more do any of us need to know.
I’ll save my snide remarks for a troll.
This is the CRAZIEST (most subversive promise) BS so far and his message to the world with the new American symbol for Change is all the proof any true blue American needs to see. He is a war unto itself all by his lonesome.
He is a Danger. He is toxic. He is not a American.
“Obama’s the Decider… heh-heh-heh”
Ted,
You sound like another clueless Obama supporter.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution allows for a civilians force for defense and securing of the laws, which has been interpreted to be the NATIONAL GUARD.
It’s interesting how WORMS always have to interpret what Obama means. Did Obama really go to law school?
All the other comments are not even worthy of a response, but I think you are trying to make a legitimate point, so I’ll respond.
My point is the military is to be headed up by a civilian - the president. Control of the military resides with the president.
A moron president, like the one we have now, will politicize the military to advance his agenda. A smart president will set strategy and rely on the military commanders to implement the tactics to achieve that strategy.
Obama’s stated strategy is to get the combat troops out of Iraq. Everybody is spinning around about the exact details of how/when this will happen - which of course is impossible t determine at this point. But our political situation is such that a candidate can not speak that obvious truth, because he/she will be sound bited and called hesitant or noncommittal or whatever.
Obama wants the troops out. Some of the military folks will disagree with him. That’s fine. As long as they do their jobs in good faith, it will all work out.
Oh fuck off. Like I want barky commanding the military. He’ll get more of them killed. He’s an idiot and everyone in the military knows it. I’m so friggin’ glad we’re out now. First Bush and now you want to push Obama on us. Fuck that noise.
Thank you–I was going to suggest that Ted pull that document out and have a gander at it.
He probably wiped his ass with his copy though, like his hero has apparently done.
Oh, well.
And BO called himself a Constitutional Scholar!!!
Then again, he “believes” we have fifty seven states and the Great Lakes are in Oregon. He “hopes” to do ten years as President. When the fur really starts flying, he’ll probably need a diaper “change.”
I think he should demand his money back from all those high-end schools he attended. That shit didn’t stick too well, apparently.
If bullshit were electricity, BO would be a powerhouse. But if knowledge is power, he’s sitting in the dark.
I wouldn’t depend on Obama’s judgement on any issue. He is so stupid, he sought out the help of Tony Rezko to help him buy his Mansion after reading about 100 articles in the Chicago papers about the FEDERAL INVESTIGATION of TONY REZKO for Political corruption. I would think a 12 yo street kid would know to stay away from Rezko. I’m just waiting for Rezko to turn RAT and take Barry and the Guv down.
If he has his way, we’ll have a CIVILIAN military over there AND here–a “national security force.”
Won’t that make those unvetted tobacco chewing nuts at Blackwater happy? And they don’t give a fuck about ROI, either.
Gotta keep those donors at General Dynamics happy. He’s into them for over a half a million, and that’s just the TOP dogs over there. It’s millions more if you go down the line to the company middle management and working stiffs, and add up all those “individual” (cough, choke) donations.
You Obamabots are nuts if you think he’s going to get us out of the region. He’s going to move the MILITARY to the Stan, and substitute Blackwater-type bastards–with their own “shoot ALL those muthafuckas and gun it” ideas about ROI– in Iraq. You watch.
He’ll then claim he kept his word, because he’ll have moved the military from the Iraqi frying pan to the Afghan line of fire…what he’ll have done is put more kids in harm’s way, only in a different location. Wheee!! Pity they won’t be able to use the Arabic commands they’ve learned in Baghdad for things like “Shut the fuck up! Hands up! On your knees or I’ll shoot, Pig!” over in Afghanistan, because, contrary to BO’s belief, it’s an INDO-EUROPEAN/SOUTHWEST ASIAN society, and they DON’T SPEAK ARABIC THERE.
That bastard knows full well that all his pals in the coal industry, and all his friends at Exelon in the Nuke Industry, can’t make up for the world shortfall in petroleum production. He’s GOT to keep those bastards pumping and keep all those key customers supplied and China happy.
That’s the shitty reality of this world, and while he’s playing you fools like a fiddle, he knows he’s got to keep China off our backs AND pay back his coal/nuke buddies…and his war production pals at GD.
General Dynamics doesn’t MAKE refrigerators, they’re in the shoot-em-up line. And he OWES them.
We’re staying in Iraq. It won’t be kids making twenty grand a year holding the line, though. It’ll be fat, mean hairy guys with cigars and bellies, and pisspoor attitudes, who’ve been through a war or three…and plenty of them won’t even be American. These soldiers of fortune will be paid a tidy fortune, too, and they’ll be about as accountable as BO seems to think he is…which is to say, not at all.
Someone needs to find out why BHO the military out of Iraq, and added to in Afganistan and Pakistan invaded or bombed? I think it has something to do with what his Arab handlers want? Or Brenenski scheme?
IF you read the Constitution, then you misread the “civilian led military” part, because there isn’t one.
Congress is in charge of raising and supporting all armies. If you are thinking of Amendment 2, it refers to a citizen militia which should retain the right to bear arms to keep us secure from tyrants who might try to overthrow our elected government.
Obama is looking for some personal “security force” similar to those created by dictators it seems, which is against our Constitution and the principles of a democracy. So, unless you are telling us he plans to become a tyrant you will not be extolling the virtues of an illegal “security force.”
Ted, what the fuck was Donald Rumsfeld?
So in other words…it doesn’t matter what the men and women that are actually fighting this war think. What an idiot he is. OMG he’s so dangerous. Empty suit!
Obama is going to take our troops out of Iraq and into Africa and Afghanistan. Can we say, Cousin “President” Odinga?
He’s getting testy - cannot handle the pressure. And even The Nation is saying Obama’s granting too many commitments to leaders in Afghanistan.
Will someone tell him he is NOT the CIC.
Thank you for the transcript NoQuarter. It edits out all of his “uh uh eh well I, I, I uh….”
I know. I saw the interview and Obama’s style was embarrassing. He stuttered all over the place. His responses sounded so disjointed that when he was finished, I was confused as to what he actually was getting at. The transcript is clearer than the actual interview was.
No wonder he has been advised to not talk to the foreign press. He can’t even handle the reporters who adore him from the msm. What a joke.
Okay, don’t use ‘per se’ it gives you away as a total blank slate–keep on talking one on one BO, it’ll make you one step closer to your own destruction.
He is not finessing this Iraq thing well at all. His campaign is trying to play it like he made the right call and Maliki, McCain are now agreeing with him, but Obama’s campaign is being clumsy as hell.
Loose cannon. All over the place, this guy. And stubborn who thinks he knows more than he does.
Wrong. al-Maliki obviously made a conscious decision to support Obama and making it quite clear that the Iraqi government approves of his proposed 16-month timetable for withdrawal. It’s a huge embarrassment for McCain and a huge boost for Obama, as has been this whole trip. Look for McCain to do something aggressive to try and change the subject within 48 hours or so, because this is all playing really well for Obama. Only in NQ-land can any of this be spun to look bad for the guy.
I don’t know about that. Pretty much everybody in my office today was making fun of Obama and his arrogance today…and a very diverse office at that. The biggest thing was that he thinks that he’s already CIC, the next biggest was that he is using his time over there to play basketball….errr….uhhhhh……ahhhhh….I mean get photo ops playing presidential basketball.
What a joke.
my office too - and it’s an academic one. you know, the kind you’d assume was in the tank for O. NOT!
the most used word around here lately is “uneasy” — as in “wtf is he doing with FISA! It’s making me uneasy”. “yeah, and what’s up with that faux seal? and the pandering to religious loonies. it’s making me uneasy”
but they read The Nation, and many really do like Nader…what a few months we’re going to have!
Hey, I’m a nurse in a large hospital and today during lunch there were a bunch of us talking about Obama and what a giant horse’s ass he is. We were all laughing about his presidential seal, his airplane, his 57 states, and what a total boob he is.
I asked the people around me if they could give me one word to describe why they dislike Obama so much. I heard the same word from about 12 people and that word starts with an “A” and it isn’t ass. Everyone’s vote was for the word ARROGANT!
They just can’t believe what a nose stuck up in the air, arrogant ass he is and most of those I work with are Democrats. Most of them said they are voting for McCain and two were write-in, and one said she was staying home and wasn’t voting at all.
Pretty much everyone I was sitting with at my son’s baseball game was doing the same thing…making fun of Obama and we rarely talk about anything else but baseball! This guy is embarassing himself!
My office is the same way and it is about half repubs and half dems. In 2004 I was baffled because only 3 of us were voting Kerry. The rest even dems were voting Bush! I could not belive it, but I was going to big Kerry rallies, etc, and thought Oh, it doesn’t matter what is happening at the office. No one else democratic will vote for Bush, well…
If it is any indictation November will be an Obama slaughter and I cannot wait! There is not one dem or republican who will vote for that fraud. Everyone hates him and his arrogance and stammering!
Are you stupid or do you not pay attention to the news? Maliki had to come out and say that he DOES not completely agree with Obama.
Besides, the war is won now, if Obama’s plan was put in place 3 years ago, Iraq would be in a true civil war right now.
I guess that’s why his numbers are really soaring and McCain wins the CIC vote hands down huh? Who’s living in dreamland sweetie?
Thanks for the reports from the workplace. Looks as if a lot of the most virulently pro-Obama stuff on Internet is posted 8-8 (working hours in all time zones).
Perhaps they all work the late shift.
Cheeto, anyone?
How can a foreign government approve anything Obama proposes? He’s not the President yet. Or did that escape you? Under the US Constitution Obama has no authority to unilaterally conduct treaties or agreements with a foreign government or it’s agents.
So much for the advice and consent of the Congress and the Senate when it comes to treaties. Obama can just agree to them on his own.
The Constitution is now quaint. Who else had that view?
Oh yeah. It was George W. Bush.
Don’t you mean in NO Obama Land?
CEO of the Democratic National Convention, Black Liberation Theologist
By Rizzuto
Mon Jul 21, 2008 - Is the Democratic Party suicidal? The head of the DNC’s religious outreach, Leah Daughtry who, in addition to believing that God finds abortion acceptable (something I find hard to swallow even as an agnostic), is a believer in the same Marxist “Black Liberation Theology” preached by Reverend Wright. This from a glowing puff piece about Ms. Daughtry from the New York Times:
Behind her as she preached, a simple wooden cross hung on a brick wall in the vaulted and sizable sanctuary of the church, which is headed by her father, Herbert Daughtry. A prison convert who served time in his early 20s for armed robbery and passing bad checks, Herbert Daughtry — whose father founded the church and whose grandfather and great-grandfather were also ministers — became the church’s pastor 50 years ago, and today Leah was delivering the sermon as part of an anniversary celebration. Below the sanctuary, in the fellowship hall, a banner for slavery reparations proclaimed, “They Owe Us.” Fliers recounted Herbert Daughtry’s arrest, a few weeks earlier, as he led marchers protesting the not-guilty verdict in the police killing of Sean Bell, an unarmed black man. His ministry has always combined consuming spirituality with black liberation theology — the theology Jeremiah Wright invoked this spring to defend his controversial sermons — and zealous political activism. Leah holds these forces within her.
But wait there’s more! This New York-born Pentecostal minister is not only the head of their religious outreach, she’s the CEO of the Democratic National Convention! That’s right, the CEO of the DNC is a MARXIST! Folks…do we really need any more proof?
http://conservativepunk.com/articles/1101/
Pentecostal minister — Oh my god!
The Pentecostal church — Joey’s army — these jerks have their own agenda and it isn’t main stream America or PRO American.
This explains a lot.
Back when I was reading diaries on Daily Kos there was a series about steeple jacking — the take over of churches by the Pentecostal nutwing branch of that church. These folks are a cult — we have a few of the Pentecostal cults in rural Washington.
If you google Joel’s Army you’ll find the diaries by a “walk away” from the Pentecostal evangelical nuts.
Here are some links:
http://www.ex-pentecostals.org/
http://www.recoveringpentecostal.net/leaving.php
http://www.cephasministry.com/joels_army_who_is_who.html
Did you read or see that black singer who sang the black national anthem at some function in Denver? The words were set to the music of the Real National Anthem. A sign of things to come? Sing it and do the German Goosestep at the same time?
I cannot believe this man is so stupid, Bush is a genius compared to this. I have friend in the military counting down the days until they can leave the military. Frankly, they are so scared this moron may actually get in, and who the h*ll knows what he will do?
THE FRAUD HAD ONLY BEEN IN THE SENATE FOR 143 DAYS BEFORE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
You’re not counting his years of being an accomplice to voter fraud while working for ACORN *cough *cough* I mean, being a “community organizer.”
Washington D.C., June 31, 2009 (AP)
The Joint Chiefs of Staff resigned today in protest over President Obama’s move to unconditionally withdraw all US Forces from the Middle East. None of members of the JCS made any comments to reporters as they walked out of the White House following a contentious meeting with the President. The Senate Armed Services Committee chaired by Senator Hillary Clinton immediately vowed to hold hearings on the validity of he Obama administrations arguments that doing so would not jeopardize American interests in the region.
Don’t think something like this couldn’t happen - in President Tyler’s administration - his ENTIRE cabinet (with the exception of Sec. of State Daniel Webster) resigned because he vetoed a bank bill passed by his own party!
How many members of the Obama household does it take to screw in a light bulb?
One. Obama holds the bulb and the world revolves around him.
Another good one.
How about –
Q. How many Obama supporters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A. [from Obama supporter] That’s not funny.
A: That’s racist!
Yeaaaah…yer a hater I say, a HATER!! And that light bulb metaphor had to be insulting our Savior some way, some how, too!! Hope, Change, BEEEEELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!
…………………..
You can’t spell BELIEVE without LIE, though, can ya?
Why would he need lightbulbs when he’s a light worker?????? Or whatever the weirdos term was!
The tape is so frightening. He really believes that he is already the President and that the election is simply an inconvenience. PUMA Please we are America’s only hope.
Don’t worry Honora, he is digging his own grave. There is no chace in hell he can be elected. But we all have to go to vote. Every vote makes us safer.
Green in Islam: My understanding is that this colour is not just ‘associated with’ Islam but is a special and sacred colour not to be treated lightly or trivially. So I would expect that the ‘do not wear green’ direction is intended to make sure that anyone travelling with Obama on this junket is seen as showing respect for Islam.
I find this level of sensitivity to Islam to be utterly amazing, when compared with Obama’s evident crass and downright nasty insensitivities toward women, working class people, and all those he has described as ‘bitter.’ Similar consideration and awareness of the needs of others would have gone a long way on the campaign trail on this side of the pond!
His campaign didn’t seem to bother with respecting the Muslim women who wanted to sit behind the podium.
Or the women who were murdered in Afghanistan while the precious played hoops.
Oh that was due to him trying to hide his ties to Muslims/Arabs. But you may be part right, if it had of been an Arab man in a turban that would have been better.
I see. So, Obama’s sensitivity toward Islamic sensibilities while his staff is in the Middle East is seen here as a problem? Amazing. Truly amazing.
As for the problem with women: the last polls I’ve seen give Obama a comfortable lead over McCain with women nationwide, so thankfully, most people don’t share your assessment of his campaign in that regard either.
Wrong. Respect for Islam in general is not seen as a problem. Obama and his supporters’ disrespect for women in general is.
Poll numbers also can’t hide Obama’s sexist attitudes, so what you’re saying is it doesn’t matter how he treats women as long as he stil gets the votes. That explains why you’re supporting him while calling yourself a Democrat. How pathetic.
By the way, if you happen to write for The New Yorker, let your boss know we had fun laughing at the cover.
“Islamic sensibilities” in this case means, “We shoot women who aren’t covered up”.
Just so you know.
And hey, no problem, if you think everybody’s in love with Obama, I’m happy. It will make your disappointment all the more fun to watch.
Look smart one. According to polls, depending on which poll YOU love, between ten and twenty four percent of hillary supporters absolutely refuse to vote for Barack Obama. This does not include “undecideds”. Now that means somewhere between 1,800,000 and 4,320,000. If this doesn’t bother you, knock yourself out.
Do you truly support misogyny? Then vote for Obama.
Obviously you are not enlightened regarding the status of women in the extremist Muslim movement.
We all should know by now about polls. Keep in mind one of his Super Delegates is Zogby. Anyone here of the Zogby Polls? Polls can be manipulated, certain questions asked to certain groups and not asked to others. Certain groups polled heavily to get desired results?
You understand WRONG. People in the ME wear green all the time. And it isn’t always HAMAS green, either. It’s a color, and it’s a popular color, too, because it evokes the idea of oasis, relaxation, rest, coolness. It also looks good on some people.
You can even buy GREEN SLIPPERS, and you should know that the FOOT is considered the most disrespectful part of the body…show someone the sole of your foot, and you’ve told them to fuck off.
Don’t believe me? Look here. No “sacredness” to the color at all. Put ‘green’ in the search feature, and a pile of Islamic men’s and women’s clothing and accessories comes up in that “haram” (forbidden–to you) color.
http://www.zainabsboutique.com/
barboucheslippersshoes.html
(paste this link on a single line)
The “prohibitions on green” are in your and your Savior’s heads. He was probably scared shitless some idiot would buy a Hamas teeshirt in the baazaar. Hell, they’ll probably come home with ones that they think say Baghdad, Iraq but actually say Death to Amrika!
Obama stop Abc in asking a question that Obama knew was coming up.See Obama stopped him by saying .Well when I am finish then you tell me if that was question.The guy ask Obama how do you know what I was going to ask. Obama always goes with un,uh,uh, look,uh when his brain has shut down in part.
I heard that Ben Ladon is dead.I can’t remember her name.The one who was shot and some say she dies from hitting her head when the boom went off.Any one knows her name. Well she has vodeos of her saying Ben Landon is dead. Many of them.She said Bush kiled him.She has many Videos out. So now the question is why did she die.Was he life set up to take a blow to shut her up.?
No….she died by the hands of terrorist, the same ones that have leaders that feel sorry for them and Obama is holding hands with in secret meetings. They are not smears, real meetings with American and Middleeast Islamic relgious leaders, as soon as we send an email to the camp showing them their meetings have been founded, the camp immediately got him to go to Christian and Jewish Churches for a “photo shot”. Just like he is doing today in Germany. A photo shot for everybody to see the New Future President. The man cannot be trusted.
You are talking about Bhutto. What’s your source?
Benazir Bhutto in her interview with David Frost.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Frost_over_the_World_Benazir_Bhutto_2
This link claims it is at 6 min.
I’m not sure I understand Obama’s position. Is he or is he not withdrawing all troops within 16 months?
It depends.
Obama is steadfast in his determination to pursue the vindication of the continuation of what may or may not be both positions simultaneously.
Good one!
He sure likes to hear himself talk. He can never give a yes or no answer. He tries to talk around it for so long that the questioner has forgotten the question.
I understand completely.
I don’t know - what day is it?
It depends on which audience he needs to pander to that day. Or what the polls say.
What is the wanna be doing know for attention. No wonder the selectee does not want to have town meetings with McCain. Has anyone seen the pictures of BO’s plane? Selected One, narcissistic one, f**cked one, arrogant one. Let’s name his plane..
I am blind to anything that happens in the intervening six months or 16 months. Or, alternatively, I am completely deferring to whatever the commanders on the ground says, which is what George Bush says he’s doing, in which case I’m not doing my job as commander-in-chief.”
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SAY WHAT??? My Goodness, Fork Mouth Flip Flop- both side of the mouth answer and never stated what he believed in . I don’t know whether to give
this guy a medal of ” Speaking with both sides of the mouth” or just hand it over to the poor journalist who never got an answer after that exchange.
I am pissed. And I’m not going to take it.
Are you?
I’m way over the campaign (not the outcome!) at this point in time. I want accountability from all concerned.
I want the ‘beautiful people’, those who are the ones who have been waiting for themselves all this time, to own up.
I am not a scintilla of an iota interested in what HoBO spouts on anything except his credentials.
Ya all just promise me this jerk is not going to be the president of the United States….I will take four more of Bush, shoot 8…McCain is looking better everyday….
McCain for the USA in ‘08
No kidding. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA.
Gosh I just can’t stand to look or hear his voice. YUCK. An arrogant piece of ick.
OMG…I was going to write about what hubby said when he came home and changed my mind…you said it…”don’t want to hear his voice,don’t want to see his face, don’t even want to look at a picture of the jerk”
I guess I’n not the only one who feels exactly the same. Please stinky just go away.
Isn’t it funny, I feel exactly the same way. What is it about this guy that is so repulsive? I can’t even click the videos anymore, even if he’s only in the video for a few seconds I wince.
What an Asshat.
Let’s be thankful he is out of country; bar the door, Jeanette Isabella!
Obama is so foolish and one big joke.
His birth certificate turned out to be a fraud document.KOS needs to be put away.Obama needs to be put away.Most of his staff needs to put away.They all ned to be charge with what they are doing.
MSNBC~CNN~MSN~CBS~ ABC NEEDS TO BE CHARGE WITH OUT GIVING THE TRUE INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS LOW LIFE OBAMA.
When is a media a game?When is the media in it for their own personal gain and not in it for the people.I have never saw a media in my life who hide~lied~and played a game with the america people,Never.They sit there and have a smile on their faces as Chuck Todd had a take this..This is going to be fun.As he knows some are watching as he gives that “It’s game time “The nedia MSNBC the most thinks it’s really funny in doing this.What they are doing is not for thier country or the people.It’s for thier own Agenda~money~ and more.
I stopped watching msnbc long ago.As time went on it came another on a list I don’t watch no matter what they have to say.msn~mbc!cbs!today show~nightly news~dateline~Today morning show~The view.Is it all about rateings for their show.Some, But it’s about control of the minds of people in which the democartic party leaders gives these media station their blessings.
We stick together for Hillary as she knows we are here for her in roll call and Denver. So let’s roll.
Off Topic
You guys gotta watch Larry King Live Tonite on Cnn.
Beck has just interviewed a couple of guys, that said,people should be listening to Lani Davis,ask what the Hillary supporters are talking about when it comes to Obama. I need to listen to this again later on the replay.
Larry,if your listening this is one show you Need to get a transcript on.
Was it in the first 20 minutes of the show?
Is there any way possible that this trip could be a setup for him to be ousted??? Maybe he is purposely f-ing up so much so thta he will make a big gaff and the dems can ditch him and go with Hillary????
It just doesn’t make any sense that he is such a wacko and everyone in the party and the media loves him for real!!!!!!!
I pray that he about shit his pants that he is actually the presumed nominee. I think he doesn’t like getting picked on now and that he is so tired. I pray that he wants out and Hil wants in and the dems agree!
That is one flip-flop I would love to see!
Another one weighs in using the psychic hotline. I love how these people “know” what we “want” without asking us. Secondly, what we “want” is so simple, really. We Want to make sure Barack Obama loses on November 4. I mean how hard is that to get?
Absolutely.
PUMA
I think this covers the part of the show you were discussing.
~~
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/21/lkl.01.html
“BECK: Welcome back to LARRY KING LIVE.
My name is Glenn Beck, filling in for Mr. King tonight.
I’ll have you know, I’m an opinion guy. I’ll try to keep it as — I’ll try to keep the pie hole shut as much as possible. And it isn’t easy for me.
I want to bring you back to our guests.
We have Peter Beinart from the Council On Foreign Relations, a senior fellow there, best-selling author of “The Good Fight: Why Liberals and Only Liberals Can Win the War on Terror.”
David Frum, former speechwriter for President George W. Bush.
And David Gergen is here, CNN senior political analyst.
Let me pick it up with you, David Frum.
There was an op-ed piece in “The Washington Times” from Lanny Davis who I, I’ve got to tell you, back in the ’90s, I didn’t like Lanny Davis because I thought he was, you know, the typical, you know, just say whatever you have to for your guy.
I now listen to Lanny Davis with a new ear because while I still disagree with him, he is willing to say my side is right on this one my side is wrong.
I don’t know if you saw the op-ed piece, but he said he was wrong about the surge — “We were wrong. These are facts and not arguments,” to question quote from his article.
When will we find more politicians like Lanny Davis — I can’t believe I’m saying that — that will say hey, that’s just the way it is?
FRUM: About 1:00 after inauguration day in 2009.
(LAUGHTER)
FRUM: And at the speed at which Barack Obama is rediscovering — you know, it wasn’t that long ago when the core supporters of Barack Obama were traducing (ph) General Petraeus — accusing him of treason, in effect, with big newspaper ads. And today there’s a picture of General Petraeus, probably the most successful American soldier in the past decade, with Barack Obama.
And I think you’re going to see Barack Obama trying to pierce through this problem he has that Lanny Davis and other Hillary Clinton supporters pointed out…
BECK: OK…
FRUM: …of the question of whether he can be commander-in-chief or not.
BECK: Well, let me — Peter, let me go to you. I’ll give you the opportunity to answer the question that I don’t think David just did.
When are we going to find a politician — because the same thing could be said about John McCain on taxes and the Bush tax cuts. Now he’s flipped and everything else.
When are we just going to find somebody who is that different politician?
BEINART: I think it would be great if politicians kind of said very forthrightly when they were wrong. They generally don’t because the press kills them when they do.
I mean John Edwards…
BECK: But who cares about — honestly, who cares about the press?
The American people are screaming out for change. And they’re not getting it from either candidate.”
What did he just say? There’s answering a question, and then there’s covering your ass. Apparently, Obama thinks he can do both in all cases and be applauded for the effort.
Don’t think so.
PUMApac.org
Barack Obama must have huge hems from that fence post he has up his ass.
All things to all people. Nothing to anybody.
Obama’s Germany Itinerary Ruffles Feathers in France, UK
Barack Obama’s visit to Berlin has upset officials in other European capitals who feel the presumptive Democratic Party presidential candidate is slighting their countries. The French and British are feeling neglected.
read story:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Quick, somebody tell France and the UK that they can have him.
Welcome to the Big Leagues Kid!
This motherfucker is full of himself!
“Or, alternatively, I am completely deferring to whatever the commanders on the ground says, which is what George Bush says he’s doing, in which case I’m not doing my job as commander-in-chief.”
Can SOMEONE please tell me WHAT qualifies this complete novice to assert his qualifications to be Commander in Chief, especially in comparison to military veterans??
This is all too preposterous.
Remember Alexander Hague rushing to the podium? “I’M IN CHARGE!!”
Shocking News For Obama
Detroit News Poll: Michigan Will Be Close
A new Detroit News poll shows a tight race in Michigan with Sen. Barack Obama edging Sen. John McCain, 43% to 41% with 12% undecided. Another 5% support either Bob Barr or Ralph Nader.
The survey’s 4 point margin of error makes the race a statistical tie.
http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080721/METRO/807210415
Wow. I wonder why it’s so close in Michigan. Could it be that some people are still bitter that their votes didn’t matter?
If McCain picks Romney as VP MI is gone.
I’m really not very fond of Romney. However, even he looks better than Obama to me.
Me neither–but he will definitely win Michigan for McCain. He is also strong on the economy, McCain’s weakness, and offers the young, good looking image to the ticket. I find him robotic and his squeaky clean conservatism is frightening.
However, then there is…
Anyone looks better than Obama to me! That says alot! I hated Romney during the primaries and I hate my Governor Tim Pawlenty, who could be McCain’s VP. Sadly though I’ll vote for damn near anything over Obama!
I would love to vote for Jack Bauer for President! Bauer/Obrien. You know that is when all the shit went to hell when the writer’s went on strike and we lost 24 until January ‘09!
This actually feels like a really bad 24 episode! “We’re running out of time”
agreed x 2
And don’t forget about all of the Mormons in NV and CO - I’m betting that those two states stay RED with Romney on the ticket.
I hope he can manage someone better than Romney. He’s as empty a suit as Obama is.
McCain needs someone who won’t be trying to poison his coffee. I’d laugh if he picked Mike Bloomberg…say good bye to newly red NY AND FL!!
I wish the repubs would love Hillary as a VP. That would be a great slam to stupid dems.
Yes, to Romney empty suit.
I’m from Michigan, I’ve been voting for DEMS for 40 years but not this year, or in the future. When the Party Bosses give someone that REMOVED HIS NAME FROM THE BALLOT 45% of the delegates you know it’s time to leave. Maybe after the DEMS lose in Nov. the Party can be purged of Dean, Brazile, Pelosi and Reid and the rest of the Wingnuts I could return
I guess I’m not the only one who feels exactly the
same. Please stinky just go away.
happy happy joy joy
happy happy joy joy
and so it continues, Uhhbamapalooza is a gift.
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL
great, now I’m thinking about fart bubbles…which I guess sums up BHO
Comment by imustprotest | 2008-07-21 19:28:28
I just read that Condi Rice is pulling funding for this trip…is she giving him the hook?
Could you provide a link or some info regarding this statement you made downstairs?
I’d appreciate it.
Do you think this could be it?
Rice told embassies to limit aid for Obama, McCain
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/07/21/rice_told_embassies_to_limit_aid_for_obama_mccain/
it looks like it is.
thanks
Sorry, I posted that and then had to leave and couldn’t follow up. My apologies. I read about it in a Yahoo news headline tease and needed to look up the link. The Boston.com story looks like the same story. Thanks 30 year Dem.
Drudge Report I think…..but it was for McCain and Obama and the embassey support I think.
He is also so used to being coddled by the press and shielded from any kind of tough questioning that he immediately gets “testy” and petulant. That’s why he hated the debates and avoids them like the plague. He needs controlled speech venues with adoring Bots. How would he ever handle the pressure cooker of the presidency? His inability to manage a larger stage becomes more obvious by the day.
Denver can’t come soon enough.
Hillary for nominee.
oh and this part is an insult to the military command on the ground frankly, it is basically, yeah its MY job to say what goes IMO:
Yep. The military’s job is to do whatever Obama says. Because he knows.
Obama does not have to pass security clearance to be commander in chief of the military. Isn’t that troubling?
PUMA
Yes. Americans have the right to know who they are voting for.
Is that the Afghanistan he is supposed to be monitoring as Chairman of the Sub-committe on European Affairs (but hasn’t had a single hearing)? Oh, I’m sure he’s an expert now. Remember, he doesn’t even know what language they speak…I feel so safe knowing he might be at the helm. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Those whom the gods would destroy must first be made drunk with power.
can I get an Amen for Uppity Woman?
AMEN! I LOVE Uppity’s fiesty spirit. When I read her posts it always cheers me, because she is actually more furious than I am–which is no easy feat. You’ve got a righteous fire woman!
I know I love reading her work too.
Thanks. You are the ones who stoke my fire, so congratulate yourselves.
I absolutely agree. Uppity, you are inspiring, spirited, honest
and funny…..I wonder sometimes what you do in the Real world/
PUMA
NO DEAL
A hero is better than a Zero
Nobama
Euripides
Ayup!
Give that gal a prize!
First Prize is a date with Barack Obama.
Second Prize is two dates.
Last place has to spend a week with him.
LOL.
More from ABC’s Terry Moran:
In Exclusive Interview With ‘Nightline,’ Senator Says He Still Doesn’t Support Surge
http://i.abcnews.com/Politics/Story?id=5417331&page=1
The Messiah could be nicknamed the Metronome. Flip-flop, flip-flop.
It’s obviously not convenient to brag about his definite time table anymore. Not so popular as it was when he needed to appeal to the left during the primaries. He is trying to double talk his way out of this now. We can see through you Barry. People know a huckster when the hear one–even the “hillbillies” in WV & KY. That’s why your numbers are going down down down. And the Repubs haven’t even lifted a finger yet. Is it still too early to say “I told you so?”
If you have time…
Look at this page…scroll down and look at all of the links to stories about his hine-ass…
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/candidates/obama/
Then look at President McCain’s…
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/candidates/mccain/
Tell me there is no media bias…shit..the only ones saying that and believing it is the media.
It’s pathetically disgusting.
it is truly stunning!!!!
And it’s what happens when you deregulate and let a couple of pigs buy up all the media outlets.
I wonder how Taylor Marsh, a woman who never served and who has no knowledge of national security, will rationalize Obama’s latest gaffe.
she’ll spin it into some silly little web somehow blaming us “unhinged” Hillary supporters for it.
or, better yet, she just won’t write a blog on it. denial seems to be her M.O. these days.
so sad…
I don’t read her. Actually I rarely ever read her. I could tell she was looking to make a living off her site and radio show. When that happens, objectivity flies out the window.
As my grandmother always said, Money Makes The Blind See.
Nothing is more contemptible than someone who tries to earn money off of politics. I wonder if she will return all the donations she received from Hillary supporters.
Never in a million years would I have thought a presumptive Dem. Pres. nominee would make Dubya look smart, but guess what, BO’s done it!
I’m glad he’s getting all this press and he’s taking this “tour”—-every time he gets into the news big-time, he makes a bigger ass of himself. He’s doing the Republican’s hit-squad’s job for them!
barack is so un-American & the press should be ashamed of themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
LOL, Hussein is as slippery, and flip-floppy as trying to nail jello to a wall.
He is trying to make the world in his own image….I thought that was done already.
No Bull, OMG: Terrorist Organization To Provide Security To Obama In Palestine!!!
According to new sources, Barack Obama will be meeting with Palestinian officials in Ramallah during his current Middle East Tour. After visiting with Israeli officials, Obama will be escorted by Israeli defense forces until security is handed over to the Palestinians outside of Ramallah. The Palestinian government has charged the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades with providing security for Obama.
The Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades are a recognized TERRORIST ORGANIZATION! The organization is and has long been listed as a terrorist organization by the United States, Canada, The European Union, Japan and Israel. The Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades have taken credit for dozens of Homicide bombings within Israel, kidnappings, and rocket firings that have reigned upon Israeli towns and settlements.
Is this the foreign policy message that Obama wants to send?
What presidential candidate in their right mind would possibly agree to accept protection from a recognized and globally condemned TERRORIST ORGANIZATION?
omg - it’s official - we truly are living in Obazzarooo world.
this is just insane. REALLY INSANE!!!
his 300 foreign policy experts are doing one helluva job.
i think they are PUMAs in disguise. you just can’t make this shit up.
Why not. Those are his friends. Maybe zbig helped arrange it.
Hmmm. Might they kidnap him and hold him for ransom? Threaten to cut off his lump? I’m sure we’ll all be burning up our Visas to save him.
Link? News source??
That in and of itself is telling…. It tells who and what Obama is.
Susan,
I didn’t see you at Netroots Nation. I thought you had a lot of friends there?
.
Whoa, David Gergen and Gloria just slapped Obama down for his just released statement about his meeting with Malaki and that the Iraqis want a timetable.
David & Gloria said big mistake, he should not be negotiating, he is not POTUS.
Anderson Cooper looked stunned.
Washington Post
Yes He Did!
LOL.
Uppity,
This is what Gergen was talking about:
Third, Iraqis want an aspirational timeline, with a clear date, for the redeployment of American combat forces. Prime Minister Maliki told us that while the Iraqi people deeply appreciate the sacrifices of American soldiers, they do not want an open-ended presence of U.S. combat forces. The Prime Minister said that now is an appropriate time to start to plan for the reorganization of our troops in Iraq — including their numbers and missions. He stated his hope that U.S. combat forces could be out of Iraq in 2010.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5lc7bz
Gergen says not cool to release the private conversation while the real POTUS is in talks
with Maliki and in Iraq to boot.
I had to put the earphones on and listen to this as I read the insanity that is Barak. Listening to the Blob is an amazing piece of sy-ops so I will listen to my favorite instrument. Funny their lips are moving but all I hear is ….
Pablo Casals plays BACH - Suite no 1 for Cello - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhcjeZ3o5us&feature=related
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBp_R_RcbEw&feature=related
Casals played at the white house for JFK frequently. And it wasn’t Rap.
Another “similarity” down the tubes.
Ya Uppity ya got that right,
This one is dedicated to BO security detachment of Secert Service folks…
What a crunch that gig must be.
Or was that Blackwater folks in Afganistan on his detail?
Heifetz Bach Chaconne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_1hS5LeBm0&feature=related
Time to let my PUMA out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_1hS5LeBm0&feature=related
Uppity, did you see my link in the post above?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
That’s next- only certain people will be forced to listen to the orchestra 24/7 and only certain people will be allowed to get down on rap.
WTF is Bob Dylan? It’s all too outrageous to believe. agahahaag ahghu. Canada is going to swell by a good 100 mil. next summer. Refugees? Tom Petty is alright. I guess.
I will never feel the same about expressing a belief, like “believe”. The word has lost all of its veracity and deep feeling for me.
Conspiracy????
The people wanted Hillary - they got Obamass.
The polls show people definitely want McCain - will we get Obamass?
He knew Hillary didn’t have a chance the fix was in with the DNC. Does this guy know the big fix is in for the general - the way he describes himself as the Commander and Chief and there has been no election? He constantly refers to after January, 2009 - I will . . . .
This is scary stuff!!!!!!!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Jul/21/text_of_obama_statement_on_trip_to_iraq.html
This could be a huge gaffe if the press picks up on it. Highly unlikely.
Doesn’t obama know there is only one president at a time in the WH. How dare he negotiate with foreign leaders and then issue statements about the discussion.
He is doing a lot better than our current leader, so why not?
He himself said in the interview with Terry Moran that he made clear that he was there as a Sen. and that we have one president at a time to PM Maliki. The transcript of the interview is very clear. He feels no need to hide anything about conversations or anything else that is already common knowledge insofar as what PM Maliki thinks about the situation in Iraq. He did not make a mistake at all. Unlike John McCain, who thinks that there is a border between Iraq and Pakistan. And you McCain supporters try to lecture Sen Obama about him and inexperience. Give me a break.
No we try and lecture you PPP about what a
liar, cheat and fraud and idiot we think Obama is.The “new” 16 month withdrawal proposal is “riffed” directly from Hillary. Let’s not forget that was / is her plan. Barack Hussein Obama’s plan was originally immediate withdrawal. Check out the debate videos.
This guy is an incompetenet and a liar.
Embarassing he has to visit foreign countries to get “national security” quals. It’s laughable to the extreme but the media and laft hate radio is eating it up. So pitiful.
Once again I have to feel shame for my country. Who would have ever thoguht Bush would seem better than BO. And since he loves Bush so much and hates the Clinton’s and Bill Clinton’s administration, I’m sure he agrees with this latest right-wing assault on birth control!
The fool should be here in the good ole’ US of A tsking on McCain. I mean really, how stupid we must seem to other countries. This is analgalous to Russia or some other country’s candidate coming over here to have speaks with Bush and our military. How pathetic!
The question was:
A simple no or yes would have done to start.
Whether he feels trapped by the question is fine and wonderful, but the question I have is the same: did he talk to Petraeaus about his timetable?
By the way, why does Obama keeping looking down to the right. Seems like he’s trying to remember his lines?
By the way, why does Obama keeping looking down to the right. Seems like he’s trying to remember his lines?
Oh hell — Axlerod stole my idea — Obama has a teleprompter implanted near his eyeball — that way he’s looking down and to the right!!
Someone should check the archives and enumerate how often BO has said, “The notion that…..”. God, I’ve come to despise the word “notion”. Did he spend his youth in a Five & Dime store?
It’s a word older people use. He probably is repeating the phrase because he heard it from older folks, you know, like that poor “racist” granny he threw under the bus.
She probably has a notion that all that sacrificing she did to send his ass to that jazzy school, only to be called a racist on national tv, was more painful than a snakebite to the bosom.
Off Topic But its about Hillary Clinton.
Larry King had Glen Beck on tonite, and the first half hour was putting Obama thru the mill and actually praising Clinton,and Lani Davis.Glen Beck called Obama the farthest Left Wing, and asked why people are not running away.
He thought a third party was in order.. lol
Good first half hour
Obama thinks he’s commander in chief! That’s laughable could you imagine McCain telling us “in which case I’m not doing my job as commander in cheif”
He need’s to get his mind out of the fantasy he and Michele play in the bedroom when he’s doing these interviews.
I know ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
That is unbelievable. I hope the MSM latches onto that (sigh).
Obama claims that if he defers to the Generals on the Ground he is not doing his job as commander in Chief. He makes one visit to Iraq and Afghanistan and he is a military expert?
It reminds me of a quote by General Norman Schwarzkopf about the other “Hussein” following the first Iraq War.
“As far as Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that he’s a great military man I want you to know that.”
This describes Barack Hussein perfectly.
Wonder what Wes Clark is thinking??? I remember him repeating over and over how difficult a withdrawsal could be, how dangerous…and here BOBO is fudging around with no conception of what he is talking about…trying to show “gravitas”
I could scream…
That’s why he supported Hillary.
It’s amazing that Obama can’t give credit where credit is due. Our soldiers and the surge strategy worked. All other positive developments — the Sunnis turning on Al Queda, for example — flowed from the surge’s success on the ground. Figuratively speaking, Obama just spit on every soldier who has served in Iraq. How dare him!
“Obama: “Here let me say this, though, Terry, because, you know, what I will refuse to do, and I think that, you know “
Moran: “How do you know what I’m going to ask?”
Obama: “Well, then if I don’t get it right, then you can ask it again.”
Moran: “All right.””
Testy indeed! More of that temper! Add this one to the Obama Temper Watch. He’s a ticking time-bomb waiting to explode. I’m telling you! I’m hoping that he kirks out at one of the “debates” so that we can see that John McCain is Papa Smurf compared to this arrogant S.O.B.
There was ethnic cleansing in Baghdad that actually took the violence level down,” he said.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/_reply_reply_reply_to.php
What the hell does this mean? So, they ran out of people to kill - that brought the violence down?
He needs to fire those 300+ foreign policy advisors.
I’m actually feeling sorry for George Bush. We thought he was the worst we could get.
We were wrong.
PUMApac.org
Obama , has no business in setting time tables with the Iraq president , He will someone remind him hes a candidate and not the President who can in an open discussion set guidelines for withdraw with a President of another country. He showed his lack of experience you do not disclose private discussions when u are not the President. How do we know he did, because Malikie came up with the same year to withdraw troops , in doing so he open the doors to alqueda to hammer the troops in Afghanistan when they know we are coming.. He is a disaster waiting to happen, he should be muzzled in a fact finding way, dont discuss plans find out what is working and what has failed. an open ear not how we can work together to get what we want when im president. Admit he is wrong when we know the surge worked..
You’re joking, right? EVERY single person I know, including me, knows this one. You know, your mom runs through the list of all the kids’ names before getting to yours? Even while she’s sitting right there looking at you? Come on, I don’t know a single person with more than one sibling who didn’t experience this. Comedians do routines based on this standard Momism.It’s completely normal.
Not that I say this to excuse BO. He long ran out of free passes, loooong ago.
I’m laughing about the Mom-ism thing. It’s true. There were 4 kids in my family, and my mom would go down the list of all of them when she was mad and trying to rein in the chaos, or get our attention. It usually was the first syllable all the way down the list until she got the name right. Funny, I do the same thing with my dogs…
My mom reads this blog, so let me just say…she’s perfect and never does anything wrong.
Never does she look right at my face and call me my sister’s name.
hee hee
Obama: such a hapless amateur. He’s got a baritone voice, a consistent dumb look, and an arabic visage. Wow. What a great presidential candidate.
I want to PUKE. Obama is not the commander-in-chief.
He sits there talking like the election is over.
Without Obama’s 300 advisers, he wouldn’t know what to say. He has NO EXPERIENCE.
By the way, Obama’s time-tables with Al-Maliki will be a ” I told you so” platform he’ll come back from Europe saying.
Excuse me, I’ve got to find the bathroom now.
[...] a brief moment of lucidity for the baffled one term senator: Obama admits that he has “boxed himself in” on the Iraq timetable issue From the transcript provided by SusanUnPC of noquarterusa.net in a blog burst titled Barack Obama In “Open Disagreement” With Military Commanders [...]
This is a perfect example of how Obama confuses and obsures his answer by engaging in a stream of consciousness drivel. Perhaps instead of criticizing Americans for not knowing other languages, he might want to learn English. Or at least employ an interpreter so the American people know what he is saying.
Ok Obama would not allow reporters in.Obama is a double talker.He tells one to people and says another to the military.I wonder how much people watch of his flip flops.
Oh I got an email in trying to get women to help the democrates.asking for money I send a reply back and said if this is for Hillary yes.Any other democrat No!
I just thought It could be someone wanting money or trying to take Hillary’s supporters away to try and stop her in roll call~Denver.
I will not ever vote Obama.And I will stick by Hillary for roll call!Denver but if the outcome is like May 31,2008 convertion,I’m out of here.John McCain will get my vote.I don’t care of the medias tricks anymore,I just don’t watch the media any of them.
The think I know is thatHillary knows her supporters will be there for he Denver~And I am staying with Hillary and only to see the outcome.Like I said.,.If it’s another mAY 31,2008 convention~I am out of here.I will not stay in a party who kicked~stab~ounch~spit on her~bit at her!Obama did that as well.I will never trust Obama after all his flip flops~His lies!his bad judgements and still running more Judgements.Never.
Hillay 08
McCain 08
Are the two for me.
Never Obama!
Hillary 8 McCain 08
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