Ominous Signs For Obama
By SusanUnPC on July 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM in Barbara Boxer, Democratic Nomination, Electability, Foreign Policy, Hillary Clinton, John McCain
Today’s Rasmussen Reports analysis finds:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 42% of the vote while John McCain earns 41%. That’s the lowest level of support measured for Obama since he clinched the Democratic Presidential nomination on June 3. Obama’s support peaked at 48% with data released on June 8, 9, and 10. During that same time frame, McCain’s support has remained steady in the 40% to 42% range (he’s had just one day a point below that range and two days a point above it).
When "leaners" are included, it’s Obama 46% and McCain 45%. With leaners, Obama reached 50% support in mid-June and was at 48% or 49% every day from June 13 until July 10. Since then, he has reached the 48% level just once while polling consistently at 46% or 47% (see recent daily results). Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.
McCain is viewed favorably by 57% of voters, Obama by 53%. McCain is currently supported by 86% of Republicans and holds a modest–four percentage point—lead among unaffiliated voters. Obama earns the vote from 77% of Democrats (see other recent demographic highlights).
There are also ominous signs in polling on foreign policy credentials:
Obama is currently on a European tour designed to bolster his foreign policy credentials here at home. Currently, voters trust McCain more than Obama on both national security issues in general (53% – 39%) and on Iraq in particular (49% – 37%).
You’ll recall our July 15th story, “Rasmussen Reports: Hillary Fares Better Against McCain”:
From the Rasmussen Reports analysis page:
McCain fares better against Obama than he does against two other prominent Democrats. New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42%. Former Vice President Al Gore, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2000, leads McCain 50% to 43%.
Thank god there is still time for superdelegates to nominate Hillary Clinton.
You can get a handy list of the superdelegates to contact in Imv’s story, “ACTION! Contact These Superdelegates.”
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Very ominous indeed, especially for the height of summer, when Dems typically dominate in the POTUS polls…
What a loser.
Hillary is the only viable Dem this year.
I still think that poll didn’t take in to account all the NEWLY unaffiliated that changed SOLELY to NOT vote for the liar Obama and will mostly vote to keep him from winning if that means in some states pulling the lever for McCain? SO BE IT!
NOBAMA
N E V A
This would be ME – I’m one of the newly unaffiliated. So, when they count their democratic party numbers, how old are their numbers? From 2004? 2006?
There are lots of us.
I am still a registered Democrat. I’m not changing my affiliation…at least not yet.
I’m not voting for Obama, either.
Same with me. I am waiting for the dog and pony show in Denver. Once I see how things play out at the convention, I will make my decision. Actually, I think I have made my decision already. I will leave the Democratic Party this year, either immediately after the convention, or after the general election since I don’t want to jeopardize voting against Obama in November.
If Hillary somehow gains the nomination, then it’s off to the races. Hillary all the way!
texas darlin this is why Obama dispatched the 3 stooges from the major networks to bolster his Foreign Policy credentials.
Some states don’t even require you to register with a party, such as mine.
here is more ominous data from pollster. It shows current Obama position relative to McCain in all 13 swing states. Ominous indeed.
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Colorado + 3% 9
Florida – 2% 27
Indiana – 1% 11
Iowa + 6% 7
Michigan + 9% 17
Missouri – 1% 11
Nevada – 4% 5
New Hampshire +11% 4
New Mexico +10% 5
Ohio + 4% 20
Pennsylvania +10% 21
Wisconsin +11% 10
Virginia + 3% 13
great cartoon
Thanks. I really needed a laugh! And it is reassuring to know that I am not the only person who has had this thought. Good thing they sit behind desks!
The fact that the poll shows that the public thinks the media is promoting Obama could really backfire on him. Thank God people are finally waking up. I hope they are also starting to realize that they sold Bush in 2000.
Depressing to see NM …with all the military personnel here…
Missouri was trending McCain a few weeks ago…I wrote about it July 2…
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/missouri-and-mccain/
The state polls, of course, are the ones to watch.
However, all polling has its biases, deliberate or not and you aren’t always comparing apples to apples. Polls interview differently…do they poll “likely voters” (and what are they?); registered voters (a much broader group); “leaners” (who are leaners?)
Survey USA does state polling–and they “weight” their polls AND their site states that they are owned by “news journalists.” Who owns Survey USA?
Are the numbers from Survey USA only or from different sources?
They are pollster numbers, which are a time-weighted average of all relevant polls.
I completely agree that polls are biased, or at least inaccurate; especially the low sample rate ones used at this point in the election. And state polls are not doe all that frequently, so they do not reflect up-to-date trends. However, they are all we have in terms of data, and they go a long way to refute the main argument expressed on this site that Obama can’t win in November. By all data we have, he is very close or ahead. Given that, there is absolutely no way the SDs at the convention will vote against the majority of the pledged delegates and award the nomination to Clinton. If Obama was 20 points back, maybe. But no way it will happen the way things are.
Given that, the people on this site should be more upfront about what they want. They want McCain to be the next president. Which is fine. Lot’s of people feel that way. But as they say here, “own your candidate” and maybe put a bit of effort into trying to build McCain up instead of being exclusively negative. The 100% negative approach is so unhealthy in the long run.
Thanks for your concern, Ted. It’s just too bad that Obama threw universal health care under the bus. It would be so much easier to treat our negativity if he hadn’t done that.
Rasmussen is the only poll showing Obama up by 11 pts in NH. Every other poll places him around 3 pts.
Strategic and Rasmussen have McCain ahead in FL by 8 pts. McCain is averaged ahead on RCP by 2 pts.
Obama’s lead in IN has slipped a half pt. making him and McCain virtually tied.
Ditto VA, though Rasmussen puts McCain ahead 1 pt.
Rasmussen, puts McCain ahead 5 pts. in MO. SUSA has him at 7 pts. and PPP(D) says 3pts.
In NV, Obama’s lead slipped to 2pts.
SUSA has Obama ahead by 3pts. in NM and Rasmussen says 8 pts.
McCain has a 1 pt. lead in OH according to Rasmussen, while most other polls place Obama at a 2 pt. lead.
None of these polls show anything but a dead heat, so I don’t know why you’re posting whatever cooked up polls you’ve got or crowing about his lackluster performance.
Oh boy, glad to see Delusion World is still as delusional as ever. You guys should sell tickets for the psycho spin you put on everything.
By the way, the daily GALLUP poll has President Obama at 47% to McSame’s 41%. Too bad that McSame goaded President Obama into the World Tour that he is on….looks like McSame will get beat worse than ever now…
Sucks to be in Delusion World when you could have been on the O-Train!!!
if YOU’re on the O train, you had better jump! The bridge is out ahead…..
It’s Obaminous!
I’d be so delighted if the Democratic Party had the courage to rethink their folly in annointing BO, but I’m not very hopeful.
I think the arrogance of BO is what will sink him. He’s overseas acting as though he already won the election. It sounds like he is talking (instead of listening).In essence, it appears he is campaigning overseas. His campaign has banned signs and banners at his “big speech” in Germany. He has that crass new campaign jet. He issued a dress code to his press entourage (mostly aimed at the females) for the Middle Eastern leg of the trip. (I know you need help dressing appropriately, sweeties).
They have to set up the smoke and mirrors in the proper place! Don’t be hating them for the show.
props include costuming!
pfft
Why do you think MO didn’t come with him? They didn’t want any pix of her with a scarf on her head and then she couldn’t wear her oversized beads and sleeveless sun dresses.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see less of her, even after he returns. She may now be classified as a “distraction” to his “tightly wrapped message”. What do you think?
Yeah it can’t possibly be because they have two young children at home and it probably wouldn’t be the best idea to send both parents into a war zone. Just a thought.
I actually did not expect her to go overseas with him, the Middle East leg is a part of his official duties as a senator. As for the European leg, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be natural to have her and the girls there.
I am commenting on what her role will be when he returns. She may be keeping a low profile now as to not distract from his big World Tour.
Her poll numbers are tanking thus the new makeover, the new chief of staff, and the new speech writer.
People are getting tired of hearing her call them lazy, immoral, unmotivated, and uninvolved.
She has been put on the shelf as they say until after the election.
MO needs to Stop the Hate!
Michelle Obama is employed outside the home at the University of Chicago hospital. She is currently on leave of absence. Since Obama has been so great in getting money earmarked for Michelle’s employer they apparently don’t mind if she isn’t at work.
So the fact that Michelle has two young children has not stopped her from being away from home before. And her mother takes care of the kids, or so she says. You are just trying to make excuses for her. She is NOT a campaign asset for Obama.
Not to mention the cost. Was Cindy with McCain when he went to Iraq? Of course not.
Bill and Hillary Clinton did it when they took Chelsea to Bosnia.
Duh, she didn’t come because it is a congregtional delegation…don’t think that she is an elected official….
Cindy McLame did not go either, but then again she was probably out charging up her credit card to $750K ( you know how they understand your pain at the pump)…
When Michelle Obama gets more goodies from her husband’s crooked earmarks, she can buy herself some more $600 earrings and mansions they can’t afford. I guess Iraqi food for oil money just had to tide them over. Gawd. It sucks to have Cindy’s line of credit. She just dumped her stock options in Budweiser like many American investors just in case Obama gets a swing at doubling the capital gains tax. Made a cool million.
Perhaps you can be her hired help…you know, get the crap from between her toes…
Naw they are preening her for first lady’ putting that lipstick on:
demconvention.com/michelle-obama-visits-denver-named-co-chair-of-delegate-service-day-along-with-jeannie-ritter/
Michelle Obama Visits Denver, Named Co-Chair of Delegate Service Day Along with Jeannie Ritter
Posted by Chris on July 16, 2008
In her first visit to Colorado since her husband clinched the nomination, Michelle Obama made a stop in Denver today and greeted representatives of the DNCC and leaders from Denver-area volunteer organizations who are coordinating Delegate Service Day on Wednesday, August 27. Today, the DNCC announced that Michelle Obama and Colorado First Lady Jeannie Ritter will co-chair the effort.
indy — I think some Democrats are doing their best to sink Obama. How are all these negative stories about Obama coming out if someone wasn’t feeding them to the media? I think the polls are way worse than what Rasmussen suggests because they don’t include the millions of Hillary Supporters voting for McCain. There could be upwords of 10 Million Democratic voters who will not vote for Obama. Not all are members of PUMA some are just Democrats who favor McCain in these troubled times.
Also, I don’t know if you read it but Obama is not helping Down Ticket Democrats. He doesn’t support them as most Presidential Nominees do. You always see a Presidential candidate standing with various state office holders when he makes a speech — not Obama. He blows into a town to collect his money and make a speech and then he’s off.
He has also shown his arrogance by dictating to the Party and by not returning phone calls from Dean and Pelosi and other top Democrats. Many in the Party find him an insufferable bore who is impossible to work with.
S. Hall–
“He has also shown his arrogance by dictating to the Party and by not returning phone calls from Dean and Pelosi and other top Democrats. Many in the Party find him an insufferable bore who is impossible to work with.”
Wow, is this TRUE??? Where did you see/hear this? This could be huge… He really has taken over. I have never seen anything like his arrogant attitude as a candidate. Like he’s already WON the election, never mind not yet nominated!!!
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RISE HILLARY RISE!
S. Hall.,
I don’t believe things unless there is a good source, you are not providing that. As far as I am aware Dean and Pelosi are hidden way up his body’s cavity and haven’t come out for air. Dean and Pelosi are deeping committed to him, because if they weren’t , Hillary would be receiving hundreds of apology calls by now. Which I doubt she is.
Politico reported on this.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11750.html
Someone also posted a link about how Hispanic organizations in FL are upset with Obama trying to transfer local power to Chicago. Maybe a look through the past two weeks threads will find the links. It was interesting, since Obama is going to try for FL again. His NV, NM, CO, OH and VA efforts are yielding little fruit.
This was reported on Politico actually, that Dean and Pelosi as well as other Congressional Democrats, were PO’d with Obama because he was changing policies without telling any of them and they were being caught unaware of the changes and were being torpedo’d. Go to Politico.com and look it up. It was a pretty harsh critique.
Good day, s. hall!
I don’t think the polling data reflects an accurate picture either, I think McCains numbers are probably better (and BOs worse).
The thing is, no matter how poorly he is treating down-ticket dems, local dem offices, and the people who declared his victory on the final day of the primaries-what is their out? What courage, honesty or conviction have they displayed? I just don’t think they have the courage to reverse course…they’ve already gone ahead with the Mile High stadium plans for the speech of speeches.
The negative stories may be a way to poke him in the side, but I’ll be absolutely astounded if they put Hillary into nomination and/or allow her to accept the nomination.
I’d be happy and relieved if Hillary was on the November ballot-I just don’t see it happening.
Can you tell us how you know this?
Poor Obama. On his Evita-esque Rainbow Tour. And his numbers keep falling.
Obama Obama Obama (to the tune of Evita Evita Evita)
People of Argentina…
…Your Newly selected President Barack Obama Evita Peron.
Wa Po reported today that the foreign press is upset with The Possum King, because he won’t deign questions or interviews. No room on the plane, either. That’s what really got them mad. Typical American Tourist.
Republicans will all gather around McCain–even James Dobson is falling in line. They always do.
Democrats are too disgusted with their party to be counted on. It is defnitely NOTthe party I signed up for many years ago.
That’s not the DNC I knew.
That’s not the DNC I knew, especially since they moved to Chicago.
This is how a political party ends when its elites willfully sell out its constitutency.
But it is the party that said they didn’t want or need old guys like me in their “New Democratic Coalition.” So I’m happy to accommodate them, at least for this election.
For the first time in my adult life, being 43 ancient years old, i was made to feel like an old person when they said that.
I woke up today and looked in the mirror and i realized, hey wait a second, i am not that old, i am not buying the shit they are peddling anymore.
jeremiah — Come October they will be begging us to vote for this loser. Pride Goeth Before The Fall.
Jeremiah…..you’re 5 years younger than Obiteme.
BO is like the door to door salesman that shows up with a freezer full of pre-wrapped beef. All for the low low price of;
Nein, nein, nein, Gott verdammt Amerika!!!
What I find amazing is BO saying Afghanistan is “precarious”.
1) NO shit! But he did not need to make it a political football Lives are at stake.
2) Telling the world Iraq is a distraction and Afganistan is in trouble maybe valid, but the fact that is disturbing is the aid and comfort he is providing in terms of propaganda for the “enemy” , just proves once again that BO is incapable of displaying any judgement skills.
He is there to listen and learn. It does not require immediatte comment.
If anything, I would think BO might say, ” I will reflect on what I am being told and be open and honest in responding to the facts as they are.
In both countries, the US has bugged out in the past, leaving many people to suffer in the wake of proxy wars. They would right to not be so trusting of the level of sustained US commitment when looking at BO. He has flip flopped on some very key issues.
If you where reading reports of this as an Iraqi or Afgani, I would conclude that the writing is on the wall. Time to make other plans.
Funny, BO did not once mention, that I have heard reported, the Opium production in Afganistan, which is a major problem for funding arms sales.
I wonder how much of Auchi’s profits are paid in blood. I wonder how much of an interest he has in BO’s land trust.
I wonder how much of Auchi’s profits are paid in blood. I wonder how much of an interest he has in BO’s land trust.
The biggest obstacle to declaring victory in Iraq is that country’s government corruption. As long as they’re skimming profits off blackmarket oil and stuffing their pockets (like Auchi did), they will continue allowing us to police their country and pay to rebuild it. Do you think given Obama’s association with the Crown family, GE and Auchi, he’s got to shut down the feeding trough? Nothing in his past suggests he would.
Well, you are just “mature” for your age. We oldsters can smell it coming cause we’ve had lot of experience with bs.
And I’m 52 and have far more work and professional experience than NoBama has. They don’t need us? That’s just fine. We’ll accommodate! No votes for the plastic messiah. No money for the plastic messiah. No money for the DNC.
They made their bed, they can lie in it.
PUMA!
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
And I used to think that progressives are smart.
Obama BAD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzu0hmW6pY
I use to think the progressives were on the right track also. They have been derailed by the American Idol foolery.
roseeriter — a couple of months ago a top Democrat said — we are tired of being the go-to party for all these constituancies. We want a younger, hipper party that doesn’t ask so much of us. Read that to mean — phuck Social Security and Medicare and Roosevelt’s Social Safety Net. I find it interesting that one third of younger voters are becoming Independent and that the young people are tiring of Obama.
And there’s that ‘thing’ about young voters not turning out. They didn’t turn out in ‘04 as predicted for Kerry.
Maybe they’re busy feathering their own little nests, trying to keep from paying social security, and not interested in politics, really?
Guess we’ll see in November.
LOL @ “what’s wrong with your browser”
right ON PErrY!
Spend a day listening to the self-proclaimed “Progressives” on Air America radio. That will end any notions you have of Progressives being smart.
It’s just hour after hour of the same Obama lovefest- Obama is a masterful politician, Obama is not a politician at all, Obama’s plans for Iraq are being adopted by every Right Thinking Person in the Civilized World, Obama is our Lord and Savior and will Lead Us To A Better Future…
Nonstop glurge.
Oh- and on Progressive Talk Radio, Hillary is still an interfering, whiny bitch.
Since I used to listen to Air America all day, I keep going back to check if they have possibly gotten in contact with reality. However, it is still always the same Obamabot propaganda.
Obama will not win. The Dems have a huge uphill battle when they run a decent candidate. Obama is not decent.
The dems are going with a 57 state strategy.
Those 7 extra states that John McCain wont be campaigning in or even on the ballet in will give Barry the needed electoral votes to win.
LOL, ahh so that’s the trick.
Yeah, the new Chicago-style DNC will invent 7 new states for BO and recognize only 43 states for McCain (a la MI & FL) in the upcoming GE.
This must be the new electoral map we’ve all been hearing about in the media–Obama’s new 57/43-State Strategy!
I know. McCain is so ignorant (must be his age) that he doesn’t even know those seven states exist.
Obama Adviser Cass Sunstein Rejects Prosecution of “Non-Egregious” Bush Crimes
As soon as the Dems failed to even attempt to rein in the Bush administration, I knew they simply were looking forward to all that power when they regained the White House. BO probably dreams about it (and expanding it to new levels).
They were victorious in 2006 because citizens wanted to restore checks and balances to the government. They failed us.
That’s why Pelosi and co. haven’t done jack shit about the Bush admin. They want to leave it all in place so they can use/abuse the same powers.
Obama is a power-hungry, puppet. What an ass!
The thought of obama and his thugs with presidential powers should terrify anyone with 1/2 a brain.
The USA has recovered from many things wars , depressions but God Help Us from This.
He and his thugs can never be allowed near the white house.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMA RULES
Cass Sunstein was always being mentioned on Air America as a possible Supreme Court nominee. Wonder if there is any quid pro quo there? Sunstein supports Obama and gives Obama a legal cover against prosecuting Bush regime crimes; then Obama nominates him for the Supreme Court. Chicago style politics at its best.
Why am I not surprised?.
As if either party wants to show the American people that ‘dirty laundry is dirty laundry’, and is washed in the same front loader, that is DC.
Look on the bright side…now that BO has moved his “never-ending circus” to Chicago there is more real estate for K Street to lease on Pennsylvania Ave.
Obama has No idea of what he’s doing, the man is playing president and a bad one at that. Obama is showing the world what kind of President he would make, one that would duck debates and question from the voters, he would spend the tax payers money on ghetto seals, 26 rims on Air Force One. No economic knowledge, No foriegn policies experince. He would disenfrancise any voters of any state that didn’t agree with him withhold funding, He would use his civilian army (Nation Of Islman and Fruits Of Islman) to stop any dissent against him. Obama Odinga would be bad for America
Per Politico:
Obama’s Berlin speech, the German tabloid Bild reports, seems to be coming with all the message-control trappings of his American ones.
Fliers touting the speech reportedly bar signs and posters, as well as bags.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/No_posters_in_Berlin.html?showall
Barf bags??
lol! @ barf bags…..I was thinking since they prefer a younger “hipper” crowd maybe old bags!
Wouldn’t it be great if he gave a speech / event in Germany and no one came? See, if he were already president, he’d have brought in the troops from nearby bases to ‘people’ the crowd.
They’re doing the same thing Bush has done – it’s all planned, choreographed spectacle.
Disgusting.
FloridaDem – “They’re doing the same thing Bush has done – it’s all planned, choreographed spectacle.”
Since that is obviously the case, what we need is a photo of BO under his Siegesaule erection with a “Mission Accomplished” sign added (or maybe Fission, since he is managing to split the Dem party rather than doing any uniting?)
Maybe he can bus them in from Chicago, which he was apparently doing in the primaries.
*Islam
Sound like black clouds are looming over Flopbama.
Oh, I shouldn’t have used that word, I’ll be called racist.
No, that’s just a bad cliche. “Fred,” above, with his comments about “ghetto seals,” “26 rims,” “Fruits of Islam” and “Obama Odinga” — that’s racist.
You’re late to work again. And thank you for enlighting us on the subject of racism.
Black hole is now officially a racist term.
Obama Odinga? They’re cousins. Obama spoke with him during the NH primaries, recommended toe-sucking Dickie Morris as an advisor who then suggested a million-Kenyan march ala the Million man March which resulted in the slaughter of 1000 Christians as no one realized there would be no police protection for the protestors.
Obama is evidently not the slightest bit repulsed by his cousin’s plan to reinstate Sharia Law and force all women into Burkhas.
There is that race card again. How many jokers are in this deck?
SFhillary, come down of Telegraph Hill, once in a while ok?
We are all racist, according to Obama, it does make a great excuse for all his troubles??????
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Michelle is not racist, not according to her thesis.
angry michelle — If Obama wins (God forbid) they will have to give us a Use and Care Manual as to what we can and cannot say.
It’s called the little red book.
Yeah, S. Hall, just think what we can look forward to: 4 to 8 years of discussing who or what is racist… instead of focusing on our myriad problems.
I’ve got no problem with discussions of race and racial equality, etc. from time to time, but Obama has used racism as a weapon against anyone who says a word against him.
What his campaign did to Bill & Hillary Clinton, finding racism in every word they uttered, is beyond disgusting. And, of course, they were aided and abetted by a more-than-willing media.
There is just no way I would ever vote for this pretender… and I’ve been a Democrat for 50 years!
Don’t forget the more-than-willing Obamabots who have bought into this vile crap. So, even if he loses, we’re going to hear this nasty racist bullshit from them for 4 yrs.
Sick of the bots.
Sorry, according to the great one that’s 8-10 years. Get with the program or you will be under the bus!
Months ago, one of the Obama Boyz told me that the reason I wasn’t supporting Obama must be because of “the r-word.” I had no idea what he was talking about. But within a few days, as more of them more directly made the accusation, it seemed clear that they had been turned on to tag all Obama skeptics with that invective.
Sorry folks, as much as i want to see it happen Obama isnt going anywhere…. The press has already elected him and the DNC cannot get the guts back in this cat.
yup agreed. Unless something major happens, i have a horrible feeling that no matter how people vote this election is going to be rigged to get Obullshit in the White House at all costs.
Here is a scary thought. Obama, even if he doesn’t win enough electoral votes, can be “choosen” by the electors as our president. Just like what the DNC did.
Read about the Electoral College.
After Election Day, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December, these electors assemble in their state capitals, cast their ballots, and officially select the next President of the United States. Legally, the electors may vote for someone other than the candidate for whom they were pledged to vote. This phenomenon is known as the “unfaithful” or “faithless” elector.
Here are 2 sites to read about it
http://bensguide.gpo.gov/6-8/election/electoral.html
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/laws.html
So maybe we should start NOW to contact the Electoral College electors to make sure they don’t pick the affirmative action candidate for president.
When McCain wins by a landslide, the EC wouldn’t have the balls to overturn a landslide, would they?
After GWB was elected TWICE, I’m convinced that anything is entirely possible. We can’t let that happen again.
Obama = Bush’s 3rd term.
1. Hillary
2. McCain
NOBAMA. No way.
Duh, never mind. I went to the EC website and learned that the EC representatives are chosen on election day. Only a few states require them to vote for the candidate chosen by their state.
dont even go there, ack!!
no visualizing of that sxxt please,
dont give it power like some frakkin Freddy Kruger meets The Secret nightmare from hell!!
HILL IS 44
SO SAY WE ALL
OMMMMMMMM
I copied this , here is the link. Notice how the electors also put GW Bush in office, even tho he didn’t have the popular vote in 2000.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761571294/president_of_the_united_states.html
III Election to the Presidency
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The power of the presidency makes it the most sought-after position in American politics. The keen competition for the post and high cost of waging an effective campaign limits the pool of candidates to a select few. The Constitution originally provided for the election of the president and vice president by the electoral college. Members of the electoral college, who are called electors, represent their states by casting votes for two candidates, with the person receiving the greatest number of votes becoming president and the second-place finisher, vice president. A tie vote in the 1800 election between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr led to the enactment in 1804 of the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides that the electoral college use separate ballots, one for president and one for vice president.
By the mid-19th century the votes of the electoral college had only symbolic importance. Electors from each state simply followed the will of the voting majority by giving their votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes. However, in the electoral college system, it is possible for candidates to win a majority of electoral votes, and therefore the presidency, without winning the nationwide popular vote. This scenario has occurred three times in United States history: in 1876, when Rutherford B. Hayes beat Samuel Tilden; in 1888, when Benjamin Harrison defeated Grover Cleveland; and in 2000, when George W. Bush prevailed over Al Gore. Another president who lost the popular vote was John Quincy Adams, who was elected in 1824 by the House of Representatives after no candidate received a majority in the electoral college.
PUMA
NOBAMA
This is my fear. It is electronic for a reason. it can be programmed. they don’t care no matter waht america votes he is the pres. republicans don’t seem to want it enough this time
TexasDarling I hope you are no where near Brownsville station (remember that song?)
They are soon under severe weather from that hurricane out in the GULF
Comment by sfhillary
As a black man I can be racist and no one can do shit about it….I am special
As a black man I can be racist PRESIDENT and no one can do shit about it….I am special
As a garlic-nosed dead ender I can just vote present in Nov, so there, LOL.
No thank you, Nobama.
As a typical white woman I can leave the undemocratic party.
As a free woman (thanks for the tip Oprah) I can elect not to vote with my party in November and go GOP for the first time ever!
thank you Oprah and Uhhbama
Love it, love it, love it!!!
As a bitter, white, latte-drinking liberal attorney, who clings to my religion and my feminism, I can say, No means no obama, NEVER!
I am NOT getting over it!
Hillary or McCain ‘08!
As an educated, chai tea latte drinking professional, life long liberal democrat who clings to my children who I love dearly, I can say Country Before Party…..NObama.
Backlash: Wall Street Downgrades Big 3 Networks’ Stock From “News” to “Paparazzi”
Looks like the overseas Obama love-in did them in.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=578
Is this TRUE???????
LMAO!
i really dont believe in tracking polls. It goes up and down
If you back on elections for the last 40 years or so you will see at this time of year the DEM running for President will have a huge lead, look at Jimmy Catrer in 76,the DEMS were a lock to win, this was right after Watergate. Jimmy Carter ended up winning by 2 points, if ht eelection would have been 2 weeks later he probably would have lost. Obama should have a 20 point lead after the leadership of Bush but it isn’t happening, Obama can only go down from here.
Re: Obama’s Foreign Policy Credentials – what Credentials? What has Obama ever done (other than have grandiose dreams) that makes him qualified to be the leader (not ruler) of the free world?
jwrjr — I agree its all about being a stud muffin dictator. Sadly, this is what passes for a candidate when the people with money run the show. Sorry no one with experience and judgement need apply.
Breaking news: NYT refused McCain’s op-ed on Iraq war (rebutting Obama’s Iraq op-ed) because McCain REFUSED NY Time’s demand that McCain set out specific timetable for withdrawal! As the Fox newscaster asked(she was obviously surprised) when trying to clarify what the McCain camp said about the NYT’s refusal to run McCain’s op-ed, “So, let me get this right, the New York Times is trying to set foreign policy?” (paraphrased)
I just read about that earlier today. What is ironic is that a media organization like the NYT is practicing censorship, and trying to mold the content of a presidential canditate’s OP-ED. They decide who is afforded first amendment rights? My brain hurts.
The polls shouldn’t surprize anyone. He is losing his left wing base to the alternative canidates over FISA and Iraq. On top of it all, Barky Nobama has never been able to close the deal. Never. “Undecided” and “late deciders” break against him. Always have. Always will. Exact opposite of Hillary. Any concerns late deciders had over Hillary were superficial. She could and did overcome them. Contrast to Obama where the undecided voters concerns over him are much more substantial- an unknown with conflicting values and principals.
He’s toast and we all will be stuck with a Republican in the Whitehouse for at least another 4 years. THE DNC sucks. Picks losers!
The number in the Rasmussen poll that sticks out to me is that only 77% of Democrats support him. That doesn’t even take into account how many democrats have switched their party affilliation to Independent specifically because of their opposition to Barack Obama. If I were contacted by a pollster I would say I was an Independent and would not be counted in with the Dem results.
really?? do you think this fair?
by Greta Van Susteren
It is hard to keep track of the news via a blackberry – but did the NY Times really reject a Senator McCain penned op/ed after printing one from Senator Obama?? I can’t figure out the explanation from my blackberry but – with the fact the three network anchors went overseas with Senator Obama and NOT Senator McCain – it sure looks like unfair coverage. Whether your candidate is Senator Obama or Senator McCain, I am sure you agree the media should strive for equal coverage so that each can get his message out. It is important to democracy that the media perform this function fairly so that voters can make informed choices. The media should not play favorites or try and pick the next President. It is impossible to be perfactly [sic.] even in covering candidates but effort is important. I am anxious to study this issue when I get back to my office – it is hard to totally have all the facts when operating from a blackberry. But I confess that the facts I do have looks like the media needs to take another look at how candidates are BOTH covered fairly.
What do YOU think??? (By the way, I am reading your comments but can’t reply on my blackberry for some reason.)
http://tinyurl.com/5mfe8a
The New York Times trying to set policy? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. Judith Miller, anyone? And does anyone remember how the U.S. got into the Spanish-American War? Rupert Murdoch, who owns a huge chunk of the international media ranging from outlets such as My Space to the Wall Street Journal, is only one media mogul backing Obama.
But so far they the decency to pretend they are fair. There got to be a law against what they are doing
Remember the Maine!
I too pretty much doubt that the party leadership and the super delegates have enough guts to admit that they made a mistake in backing Obama. If he does remain the democratic nominee he and I will both be making history; i.e., he as the first black nominee of a major political party and I as for the first time ever voting for a republican candidate for president of the United States (I recently turned 67 but since the democratic party did not need me thought I would go where I am somewhat more appreciated).
LOVES IT!!!!
Uhhbamapalooza Tour keeps giving too, ahh the audacity of it all,
speaking in front of 10 Downing without the PM at your side, whuda thunk of it?
PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL
Hill is 44
W00T!
Ominous for him, music to my ears. I want his ass kicked hard in November. I want him to slink on back the Senate with his tail between his legs like the liar that he is. I will be so crushed if this country loses its mind and puts this guy into power. He is so horrifically bad it’s hard to even put it into words.
Ditto. I want him beaten BADLY. I want it to be embarrassing. I want it to be so bad that Mee-shell will no longer be proud of her country (for the first time).
Sugar, he’s so bad that it is indescribable. You nailed it.
http://www.TheOtherDemocrats.com
A little off-topic, but maybe not…
Just read on the Hillary Clinton Forum that MSNBC is spreading a rumor that Obama has picked his VP candidate – and they “predict” he will announce before the Olympics start on 8/8.
Everybody, of course, is hoping like heck it’s not Hillary – can’t believe she’d accept, but weirder things have happened, I guess.
Anyway, it’s straight from the MSM – MSNBC specifically – so take with a giant grain of salt.
My guess is he will pick somebody with no charisma, no personality – no one who could possibly upstage “The One” – and that ain’t Hillary!
Clare McCaskil? LOL.
I am so sick of the TV and newspaper media making Obama the new American Idol, and giving him more TV and print time. McCain sure didn’t get the star newscasters from the 3 networks following his every move on his trips to Iraq and Afghanistan. It is nauseating how they all worship Obama. These polls are so encouraging though. Maybe some Obama cult followers are waking up, and Hillary just bought a website named HRC2012.com. However, she better get on the ballot in Denver next month or there will be a riot.
Don’t you mean “American Idle”?
Did catch a couple minutes of Rush while coming back from the store and he was talking about the NYT turning down Sen. McCain’s op-ed and how they also provided guidelines on how he would be able to improve it so that they might be able to publish it.
What the heck is it with Obama’s appeal that the MSM back him and our illustrious democratic party leadership backs him. Can someone please tell me just what in the heck it is that I am missing? I see Obama as probably being much worse that GW, what am I overlooking that is convincing others that he is going to be so great?
Kingmakers prefer aspiring nitwits and other blank slates – people who want the title more than the job.
Scroll upthread and click the link to cartoon I posted. It explains the appeal…it’s the arousal factor!
Rumors Of Obama’s VP No Women Allowed?
Look for Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) to be soon added to the public short list of names Sen. Barack Obama is considering to be his running mate.
First Read makes the case: “The Rhode Island senator, who is on the overseas trip with Obama, has been to Iraq 11 times (and voted against the original Iraq war resolution)… The widely respected voice on national security is a 1971 West Point grad, though he did not fight in Vietnam. The Army Ranger paratrooper, who eventually commanded the 82nd Airborne, was assigned elsewhere… Father was a school custodian and WWII vet… Was on a trip to Afghanistan with McCain and Lieberman when he first met his wife… Took weekly art classes at the age of 5 at the Rhode Island School of Design… Big Will Ferrell fan and drives a 1991 Ford Escort… Differing with Obama, he was against the 1991 Gulf War and voted against the recent compromise FISA legislation.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Seems plausible. I wish McCain would pick Olympia Snowe. I thought maybe Condi would make the veepstakes, but she has kept mum on endorsing McCain. That’s no way to make friends!
Look how stunning she is as a woman who would not seem too young and serving as arm candy on the ticket (Gov. Sarah Palin.) She highlights McCain’s moderate and bipartisan appeal. She is progressive and whipsmart with a lengthy resume of accomplishments in the Senate. She has become widely known for her ability to influence close votes and Senatorial filibusters, in part making her one of the most influential modern U.S. Senators.
In 2006, she was named one of “America’s Top Ten Senators” by Time Magazine. Her political popularity in her home state is the highest of any current U.S. Senator; as of November 22, 2006, she enjoyed a 79 percent approval rating in her home state of Maine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muZ96HDCUSE
She looks like Maria Callas (Jackie O) and has an inspirational life story. She sounds like one of the Kennedys. She could challenge Obama’s legacy appeal by reminding America of the actual figures.
I forgot to label the link. It is 6.03.08: Day 2 of Senate debate on climate change bill. Olympia Snowe gives an informative speech about a bipartisan bill sponsored by McCain and Lieberman with support from Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Amy Kobluchar and John Kerry. It gives insight into what John McCain’s energy policy would be, as well as demonstrating what an effective legislator Olympia Snowe is and her grasp of current issues.
Time’s Baghdad correspondent on Obama’s visit — the lede:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1824787,00.html
You can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
Leila Mohammed and I have at least 2 things in common: 1-we are both housewives and 2-BO has no business meeting with al-Maliki before he’s elected.
I think it’s offensive that he’s acting like he’s already won the election. And I’d be just as offended by any candidate being so arrogant.
And he ticks up to a 6-point over McCain in today’s Gallup tracker…
We now return you to your regularly scheduled cherry-picking. Stay right here at NoQuarterUSA for up-to-the-minute deluded election analysis right until it becomes clear that Obama has actually won, at which point the site will vanish in a puff of smoke.
(To be completely clear, the 6-point lead in Gallup actually isn’t any more significant than the narrowing spread in Rasmussen. The point is that there are some small variations, that Obama has come down a bit from his post-primary peak, but that he’s maintaining a small but resilient lead.)
Keep hope alive!!!
Stop the hate!
You have 1 chance to keep hope alive in Denver. Place Hillary’s name on the ballot and vote in accordance with the majority of the voters in your state. Remember, your Mama taught you to follow the rules. Make her proud Ms. Brazile–do the right thing!
Soo….no summer job again this year, either?
Your mommy is going to be pissed. Again.
His post-primary “peak”. As I remember, it was at a pretty low elevation.
oh boy a whopping 6 points ahead, when the chosen savior and messiah should be mopping up the place with Senator McSame, McCrazy, McPain, Bush III, The Old Man…GRANDPA…
You know what McCain is doing today? He’s taking a nap.
1 point is enough to ascend to the elevation of the highest elected office in the land. Obama’s leveling off, but not falling behind. He is still the odds-on favorite to win the election.
Much like Kerry was the “odds-on favorite”!!!
Have other candidates had their own plane?
How much does that cost. Who pays?
Does McCain have his own plane?
Actually, Bush did, paid for by that Enron dude (the dear departed Ken Lay).
Hmmm….now doesn’t that raise a few questions…too bad there is no such thing as an investigative journalist in the MSM.
Ed Schultz spent most of his show today talking about how wildly popular Obama is with the troops, with the Iraqi people, with Europeans, and will people generally everywhere on the planet.
Meanwhile, his approval rating is dropping in the US.
The Obama camp would probably tell us that this just demonstrates how stupid Americans are compared to everyone else. I prefer the phrase “familiarity breeds contempt.”
Meanwhile, I wish Obama would just run for Chancellor of Germany and leave our country alone. Clearly we are not worthy of him.
Angela Merkel wouldn’t be happy about that, but then Obama thinks we need fewer women in politics (Alice Palmer, Hillary Clinton, Regina Thomas come immediately to mind.)
Terrific post John!
I cannot tolerate Ed Schultz. He’s been in the tank for the Error Apparent since Day 1. So absolutely horrible to Hillary and Bill. I cannot stand the sound of his voice. He hates the Clintons so much that I think perhaps he made a pass at one of them and she/he turned him down! I guess he can’t get over the rejection. He shares BO’s arrogance and inflated ego.
Let’s e cautious about these polls.
As I pointed out in my interview on the Blog Bunker on July 11, we don’t know a lot about how these polls are actually conducted.
For example, what is a “likely voter”?? This universe is broader than a poll among “registered voters”. But a “likely voter” may include those who voted in how many previous elections? It’s not specified.
Also,we have no idea of who is included in “leaners.”
Rasmussen is no better or worse than what others do, including Survey USA, which openly states that it “weights” their samples (and they are owned by “news journalists”–who are they?)
Then there is Gallup, which is really into collecting data for business…not the place I knew when I worked there!!
I wrote about this a few weeks ago. You may be interested in the info on Gallup and Zogby, as well as the general discussion of polling practices in general…
Musings on Pollsters: Confessions of a Former Gallup Study Director…(Updated 1X)
http://tinyurl.com/5xjfed
It’s easy to figure out. You don’t have to be a Republican to want to drill for oil. If it didn’t lower the price a penny, I would rather our money stay here and provide jobs than just send it overseas. I also think holding out for alternative will lead to massive layoffs. No election is worth tipping this economy to a depression
Ahhh mmm correct mee if I am wrong but BO did not”clinched the Democratic Presidential nomination”.
Just sayin.
I decided to ditch any support for Air America radio when every single host they had all went in the tank for Obama. I thought it was supposed to be a liberal, progressive radio station for ALL Democrats, but you’re telling me that not ONE SINGLE HOST supported Hillary? Not one? What about the 18 million of us that did? They just didn’t give a damn about us! As a matter of fact, they didn’t just SUPPORT Obahblah, they denigrated Hillary – made fun of her, criticized her, etc. Most of the hosts even came right out & endorsed Obama during the primary, which is unprecendented! I have NO RESPECT for the owner of Air America or any of those hosts – I don’t know what they are, but they’re NOT DEMOCRATS – at least not like any I’ve ever known.
When Obama’s poll numbers soar after his visit, you all owe me and supporters of Barack a steak dinner.
You made me spit my drink out booboo!
Stop the Hate!
Tube steak?
I predict that when the adoring news shows pictures of Barack Obama with a million screaming Germans at the Siegessäule, the heartland of America will be even less impressed with him.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,566920,00.html
The Guardian’s Gary Younge has a pretty good take on the real reason for Obama’s popularity in Europe:
People see in Obama what they want to see
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/21/10495/
The real story is in the electoral college. A current analysis (done by NPR no less) shows McCain with a commanding lead over Obama in likely electoral votes. Obama has an uphill battle at the very time when his popularity should be at its peak. Instead, he’s well behind and his campaign is collapsing, particularly with regard to fund raising.
What you are going to see, as the republican machine starts up at the end of august, is McCain pulling well ahead. McCain is only now uniting the GOP behind him, even clinching the crucial religious conservative vote (something that would have been thought unlikely a few months ago) with key endorsements coming out soon. It’s because of Obama. Conservatives are demoralized over the Bush administrations failure to adhere to the conservative agenda (to disastrous effect I might add) but they know just how bad Obama is and are getting behind McCain simply to prevent the democrats from destroying our country.
The real problem here (for the dems I mean) is if the conservatives manage to convince McCain to be a strong conservative candidate. If that happens, the nation will prosper under two terms of republican leadership. If that happens, the dems might not recover for 10 to 20 years.
What a pathetic squandering of opportunity the whole Obama campaign has been. The kindest thing I can say about it is, maybe, FINALLY, the dems will get serious about reform….and purge itself of the radical elements.
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