About the Obamas: “These people are weird”
By SusanUnPC on July 25, 2008 at 10:38 AM in Barack Obama, Michelle Obama
“These people are weird” was the subject header of an e-mail I opened from a friend today. What was on the body of the e-mail message? This from Politico.com via People magazine about the Scrooges Obamas:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) tells PEOPLE magazine in the issue out Friday that he and his wife, Michelle, do not give Christmas or birthday presents to their two young daughters.
Bizarre. There’s more, with a “twist” from Charles Dickens:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) tells People magazine in the issue out Friday that he and his wife, Michelle, do not give Christmas or birthday presents to their two young daughters.
Obama tells the magazine’s Sandra Sobieraj Westfall in a seven-page cover story that he and his wife follow the unusual practice because they “want to teach some limits.”
Charles Dickens, on Barack and Michelle Obama:
“A merry Christmas, uncle! God save you!” cried a cheerful voice. It was the voice of Scrooge’s nephew, who came upon him so quickly that this was the first intimation he had of his approach.
“Bah!” said Scrooge, “Humbug!”
….Scrooge having no better answer ready on the spur of the moment, said “Bah!” again; and followed it up with “Humbug.”
“Don’t be cross, uncle!” said the nephew.
“What else can I be,” returned the uncle, “when I live in such a world of fools as this? Merry Christmas! Out upon merry Christmas! … If I could work my will,” said Scrooge indignantly, “every idiot who goes about with ‘Merry Christmas’ on his lips, should be boiled with his own pudding, and buried with a stake of holly through his heart. He should!”
“Uncle!” pleaded the nephew.
“Nephew!” returned the uncle, sternly, “keep Christmas in your own way, and let me keep it in mine.”
“Keep it!” repeated Scrooge’s nephew. “But you don’t keep it.”
“Let me leave it alone, then,” said Scrooge. “Much good may it do you! Much good it has ever done you!”

They only give presents during Ramadan…Probably get the kids a new BURKA…and tell them to stay home, and be submissive to their husbands in the future…Mohammed authorixed the BEATING of a non-compliant wife…
My family has stopped with Christmas/birthday gifts, but we’re grown already. Kids? That is a little off.
Still, Obama earned my scorn long before I learned this.
Hey remember his kids go to the same school with Bill Ayres’s kids. Bill’s kids are grown and in their 20’s
Obama parents to children at christmas time and birthdays: “Hope and you shall receive..someday..
ah so he practices what he preaches..
poor kids:-(
What kind of “limits” are the Obamas teaching their daughters? The limits of their affection for them?
So I guess that will come into force
” NO CHRISTMAS ”
and it sucks if your bday is the 23 abd 25 Dec like here lol
means we will be thrown to the wolves I guess…
and I always thought my partner could walk on water being born on Christmas day guess they will be shipped out pronto.. always thought I had found my own Jesus..
better change our bc real fast
who is it we need to see?
This thread is great for seeing whom among us actually reads the articles and the comments and who doesn’t.
Yeah, this blog exists for its authors to troll, and troll some more.
Susan unPC trolls by omitting the punchline:
Larry trolls when he promises incendiary “whitey” videos that don’t really exist, compares Obama to Hitler because Obama is charismatic, etc. etc.
But, it gets some attention, so that’s why they keep doing it. Everybody gotta have some attention.
How can someone troll their own website…? You’re new to this whole blogging thingy aren’t you?
Meanwhile Mrs. Obama wears full length mink coats.
Not getting any gifts at Christmas must really hurt the kids — because their friends get gifts.
There are other ways to handle teaching responsibility — like giving allowances — etc.
The Obama’s are pigs.
PUMA
Why hasn’t PETA jumped her ass?
Are you serious, she wears fur? What liberal wears fur, seriously? Remember when Aretha Franklin wore a fur coat to some awards show a few years back and the blow back from Hollywood was unreal! Do you have a photo to link to or a story we could pass onto some of the more whacked out lefties. These people are not liberals at all.
SHE WEARS FUR?!?!
Adding it my list of reasons why I can’t stand her. She probably kills the little creatures herself. Oh, well, that would get her hands messy. I’m sure she has someone else do it for her.
But the fur goes so well with her $600.00 rebate check earrings!!
Good communists don’t worship any god.
Are you sure about that?
If she has so done in the past, I rather doubt she’s doing it any more.
She’s the smarter one of that pairing, I suspect.
Didn’t Michelle brag about losing a mink coat?
Yep she did — a full length white mink coat lost/stolen from a party/gathering at Jesse Jackson Jr. home.
THAT really stuck in my mind — full length white mink coat.
I don’t know why.
Are you being deliberately blind, or can’t you read? Santa brings the gifts for the Obama girls (it says so in the article) and they spend money on birthday parties and sleepovers for their girls. The level of deceit on this website is just out of this world.
Yeah but the article says they get gifts from Santa, like the older girl has no clue? Also they spend hundreds on slumber parties ….. This is an odd way to teach limits.
This will probably make more people think he is truly un-American than anything else.
I know, the way this entry is framed it makes them sound like they don’t give their girls anything.
So basically the article is all “the Obama like to play pretend!”…continuing the trend of Barack’s penchant for playing “pretend Senator”.
It is still very, very bizarre that they don’t give presents from themselves or on the birthdays to “teach limits”. Like someone above said, the limits of the Obamas’ affection knows no bounds.
My son continued to believe in Santa until he was 10 (or at least he pretended to, and we all played along). Please, don’t let your hatred cloud your intellect.
Did Santa bring his Birthday gifts? Why couldn’t you still give him a Christmas gift? In addition to Santa?
Your kid is either retarded or so smart that he realized your cheap ass wouldn’t buy gifts otherwise.
I feel so sorry for those two girls. Doubtless, their friends enjoy showing what ‘Santa’ brought them while Obama’s kids stand outside with their faces glued to the window.
Pitiful parenting, or is that a Muslim custom?
NO CHRISTMAS GIFTS FOR OBAMA GIRLS
What would prevent a person from celebrating American Traditional Holidays with gifts for your children? Unless of course you just cannot afford financially to bless your children, but we know that isn’t the case for the Obama’s. Is it a decision you made because of your Christian Values?
Wait a minute you are courting the Christian Evangelical vote.
So I ask again Obama why you do not share Christ’s love with gifts for your daughters at Christmas. Would it have anything to do with your Islamic upbringing in Indonesia? Would it have to do with your atheist Mother?
Uncover the truth now at: http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/nochristmasgiftsforobamagirls.aspx
no i think more likely its part marxist part scrooge to anyone but himself and part girls you must be pure as a lot of our breathern cannot afford gifts.
Ah they’re only girls, Hos in training like all girls. Why give em gifts?
Now, you are just an evil bitch whose kids are ugly and uneducated like their mom… I mean their ho of a mom!
Another BOBO cult member — has invaded.
Go away — your diaper is stinky!
Jeeze Green,
What a flimsy attack. Ugly jokes? Jeeze
Would like to see an attack?
Huh? Huh?
Geez Hotgreen, what’s got your thong up your crack today? That’s some gnarly talk there. Nice to see you lapse into the obamaisms, “ho” “evil bitch” … its all just the same OBama Campaign talking points that have been used all throughout the Primaries
Maybe the kids are rented for the campaign.
You are a very classy lady
Just $10,000 piano lessions.
It’s Christmas every day courtesy of bought votes and Iraqi food for oil money.
I would like to see the results of the 10k. Even mary Mary Had a …well you get my drift.
At this point I am having doubts that it was not used for some other purpose.
I have seen good days and bad days in my life. Last year I had $110.00 for Christmas presents for 5 people in my family. Everyone got one or two presents.
It is not the price or value that matter but the honest try to get your loved ones something that is nice, enjoyable and marks the day of love and good will.
It is such a shame to deprive children of the Santa miracle… To make the expression of love un-important…
What an effed up family!
They probably put up a tree on August 4th instead.
Clearly, Obama is not a practising Muslim, so this is snark.
Good snark can look like an actual viewpoint, which is part of what makes it good.
Obama is not a Muslim, but he is a poor choice for the Democratic nominee, as in evidence in the many posts on NQ.
Here that lie again. The implication that Obama is a Muslim.
HE IS A CHRISTIAN!!!
Why do you think there was such a big “stink” about the Pastor of the Christian Church he and his wife attended for over 20yrs?!
He would NOT “only give presents during Ramadan.”
You call that pastor a Christian?
…The same “christian” pastor who had the Hamas Manifesto on his website before he scrubbed it?
I don’t, but then I’m not a Christian myself. I Agnostic.
My very subjective opinion the “Pastor” in question is an asshole.
Christmas has little to do with Christianity, they couldn’t get all those pagan peasants to give up their winter solstices celebrations so they moved Christ’s birthday and combined the two.
Unless Rev. Wright has forbidden Christmas there is no reason for the Obama children not to have a Christmas celebration unless the Obamas subscribe to a religious ideology that doesn’t recognized Christmas. I’ve wondered what sort of Church bans pledging to the flag and country, refuses to wear symbols of a country and now bans Christmas gifts that wasn’t Quakers, Mennonites or Amish because I know Rev Godamn America isn’t any of those.
Even those belonging to very religious denominations (and I’ve known quite a few from Christian Scientists to Seven Day Adventists to Fundamental Baptists) who don’t celebrate by the giving of gifts who take their kids to Food Pantries, Nursing Homes, etc.
I even knew one family that had their kids clean out their closets and toy boxes every Christmas and then took them to their Church or a homeless shelter to teach them the value of sharing what they have with those who don’t have. But I guess the Obamas never thought of that.
The Jehovah’s Witnesses also don’t celebrate birthdays or Christmas… but they are also not supposed to vote, serve in the military, salute the flag, recite oaths, or run for public office.
Or smoke cigarrettes… or play cards… or dance…
This is all about Obama and his endless vanity.
Santa is Santa.
good grief.
If that church is christian, I’m the queen of Sheba.
4 real
and I’m Betsy Fricken ROSS!!!
That would be Black Liberation Theology. Not a Muslim. Just a BLT Marxist.
see now THAT is breaking it down to its most common denominator!
tyvm
Barack Obama has NEVER said the words which other Christians know in their hearts. He has made slim references to “following the teachings of Jesus.” That, my ignorant little troll, is not what makes a person a Christian.
Its not a particularly exclusive club but its members all share one thing which Barry has made strong efforts to avoid saying.
They believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for man’s sin. Salvation comes exclusively through acknowledgement and acceptance of that fact. No ‘following’ will do it nor will just saying so. It is my opinion that Barack Obama has never accepted Jesus as it is outlined in the Bible.
This is why he will never get the support of Evangelicals.
I may be what some call a ‘lapsed Christian’ but I know how to join the club.
Barry does not.
Here’s the actual quote from the magazine.
So yeah, the Obamas don’t give Christmas presents at their house, Santa does. Not much of a story here.
You obviously don’t have children. For those of us who do, this story is shocking.
Hell, my spouse can’t take the kids to Target without buying them each some candy from the checkout.
It’s pure selfishness. They are horrible parents.
And where does it say that the Obamas don’t buy candy for their kids? Your irrational hatred is showing.
No our buying into this distraction is candy.
It’s all hoBO Bullshit. Let’s not get hung up. There’s more to come. Who gives a shit about presents for the kids? It’s pure Axelrod molding the new baby Barak and Barakas coming into the World. Hey, if their parents think it’s cool to deprive their little stepford tykes — citizens of the World — its okay by me.
This is the question? What does it matter?
Nada*
*That’s Spanish.
Correctomundo.
Either that, or they are in fact Jehovah’s Witnesses, who also don’t celebrate birthdays or Xmas.
Nice racist comment, very classy people here.
We’ve been deemed classless. Get over it.
Too funny Susan….Limits! as if Obama knows about that….
We can look forward to 10 years of him in office, if America is dumb enough to elect him.
It would seem that “term limits” is one limit that Obama wants no part of.
There will be no “election”, according to the Press. It has been done, my dear daughter, so Behold. And, ye be glad.
working class artist — Obama is telling the rest of us he will put limits on us too. Funny how he and the miserable Michelle put no limits on themselves. Obama is going to fly over to Mars without a Space Ship — Golly Moses
A Muslim friend of mine obviously does not celebrate Christmas, but also does not give birthday presents to her kids on their birthdays. None of her Muslim friends do, either. The kids have birthday parties but they give presents to the guests, not the other way around.
This is what kills me - we could elect Corey Booker the first black president, Colin Powell the first black president. But we’re asked/pressured to vote for this guy who spent his formative years in Indonesia not as an American but a citizen of the world. He’s not that into America.
But anyway, we would vote for a black candidate. But we’re pressured to vote for this inexperienced mysterious guy and if we don’t they’ll say it’s because of racism.
Yeah, or Mayor Nutter even! How did we get to this?
We got here sadly by not paying attention to our country.
Both sides got bitter at each other and both sides started cheating and backstabbing. Rep’s were mad and distrusting of Bill, (let’s not go into that shit) and Dem’s were mad about two things. Mad at the Rep’s for fingering Bill and his peccadillos and mad at Bill and to a lesser degree, Hil, just by association.
Dem’s, the other side of a coin dropped in the toilet got to get even in the last two elections with the exception of the presidency and THAT pissed ‘em off even more.
At the point where one side decided that Moral Equivalence was a good enough excuse to cheat too, the system turned to shit.
What we can do now is “Un-elect” everyone, force greater adherence to the principles laid out in the Constitution and demand accountability.
The first SOB in congress who points a finger and says its the other side’s fault should be dumped immediately.
The way we take back our country is to throw ALL the bums out and start over. I think that after two or three cycles of this we might just get our country back.
I do not believe that any progress can be made in this if it isn’t across both parties, but I do see it as a drastic but effective solution.
Well….Christmas is soooo Eurocentric and Imperialistic….Not to mention how it
re-enforces CAPITALISM….I mean You PUMAS HAVE GOT TO GET A GRIP AND JOIN THE NEW AMERICA.
Sincerely,
Commissar Donna Brazeal. New Party for a New America
LOL, Brazeal is right. You can see the gleam in her crooked eye.
Santa is a capitalist. Capitalism: Bad.
He wants us all to give a piece of our pie, and that’s not about Christmas either.
To quote Ayers….
“Down with capitalism…..buy my book.”
Capitalism doesn’t bother them when buying bloody animal skins to drape her ugly ass in.
You are one classy person!
You Obamabots can NOT handle the TRUTH.
And that is YOUR problem.
If they want to teach their kids try some ethics and begin by dropping out of the race for the sake of America.
and they could teach, if (IF) they celebrate Christmas, by having their kids purchase, wrap, and deliver presents to those less fortunate than themselves. Something is really wrong here. We need to know a whole lot more than we do, this stuff is just not coming to light…
dgr — Obama is not into those less fortunate. While Obama was a Community Organizer 700 old and sick people in his area died in one week in a Chicago heat wave. They might have been saved if someone could have gotten them to shelters. Like the Community Organizer who should have known the people in his district and fought to get them help.
hey, they were mostly old hoes living alone. why should he care?
That is just sick… and SAD. Doesn’t look like that event, and the way you’d think someone would feel about witnessing this tragedy and the magnitude of it, made it into his biography ~ not that I have been able to stomach the read… just something about him creeped the hell out of me from the gitgo, so I was never interested in reading him writing about him. I did not feel that way about Rev. Jesse Jackson(too bad about his namesake), Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., or anyone else because of their skin color so OBOTS back off M’KAY?
dgr - did you read the article? Santa brings them gifts on Christmas. Please, please, use the brain that god gave you: do not form your opinions on edited bits of an article posted here by the dishonest SusanUNPC
sorry, when it comes to Comrade Obama, I think the worse things first, and ask questions later. Just like all partisan people do. You folk have your dwelling where you talk to each other and we have ours. We have other talking points for Obama, Grove Parc, Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, if you’d like to discuss with us…
The Edward Kennedy (?MA) connection…
In the Peter Hart focus group he asked the participants to imagine the Obamas were their neighbors and then imagine if the McCains were their neighbors. Then you had to ask them to borrow a cup of sugar.
I imagine the Obamas putting plastic on their furniture before you sit down.
“I imagine the Obamas putting plastic on their furniture before you sit down.”
Funny, a friend of mine just said that same thing last week. She’s bothered by the way the Obama’s are such control freaks. Kids need a chance to just be kids, everything just seems too structured in that house.
Besides, who is she kidding? SHe has an underpaid live-in Hispanic nanny (6k a year–but hey! They feed her, right?) taking care of her kids most of the time.
huh, I guess nothing says Christmas to them like the pulpit humping treat they get from Rev. Wright on that blessed day..
Darn you made me spit my coffee. What will they do for Christmas now that they will have to give up spending it at Trinity,
That’s a gift that keeps on giving.
gina
Now that’s funny.
Funny ! This is how they spend Barky’s birthday.
Oh wait, WHO was born on December 25th?
Will we still get the day off, though?
Just one more check mark, that barack hussein obama IS NOT of Christian faith. I’m convinced more than ever, that he’s closet Muslim!
Sounds right to me. Obama was able to recite the Evening Muslim Prayers for Nick Kristoff, Obama said it was one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. Obama is a “People Pleaser” and acted as a muslim when living in Indonesia.
” I will stand with the Muslims should the … blah blah blah” OB
Also take a look at:Danielpipes.org/comments/133692
He’s an American Muslim, sans *the bow tie.
*that’s French
Another reason for Americans to dislike Obama. What kind of family does this? Seriously, this is the kind of stuff that gives people the creeps.
I’d almost be willing to bet that Obama thought that up during the interview and spit it out as a brilliant example of his and Michelle’s thought-provoking parentage. Santa, on the other hand, does shower the girls with gifts, as I understood it.
The slumber party birthdays is more curious, though. Any parents remember how old their kids were before they could stay an entire night at someone elses house? I hate to count how many kids I took home, and picked up before 8 years old as they adapted to that “treat”.
These people don’t know how to be honest!! But, an analyst would probably point out how their children’s birthdays and Christmas have become about the parents (we’re so progressive, WE are molding a chunk of our children’s character through denial of what 95% of children delight in annually).
he wants to teach them limits? and not giving them a birthday present teaches them that? but giving them quarter million dollar trust funds, 10 thousand dollar piano lessons, living in a mansion, seeing their dad give the finger to hillary supporters and act like he is the second coming of christ isn’t going to off-set that? give me a break.
That is correct. Where are the parental limits?
O has so little character that he will, like a common street whore, lie on his back for anyone–no matter how loathsome and repugnant.
Fabulous role models.
Well put. HE is the ho.
He’s the Alpha and the Omega in the realm of whorsehit. He cannot even hide his fraudiness (newly coined term) anymore. he’s Busted…
he’s The One because
he’s a walking, talking bank vault.
Nobody seems to have bothered to teach HIM any limits, have they? I mean, he imagines himself King of the World.
He has - 1st grade teacher in Indo said he wrote a class assignment that he wanted to be president. Infront of Hawaii school he inscribed in the cement sidewalk - “King Obama”.
His is going to make sure he is loved all over the world because then, he thinks, no one can leave him and everyone will pay attention to him
Unlike the people who were supposed to care for him - first father gone, mother gone, second father gone. His is just like the childhood of other demented maniacs ie. hitler , castro.
You are right on about that. I wish someone like Gail Sheehy would do one of her trademark psychological profiles on him. If she can find anything. His history seems to “self-destruct.” And I can’t help but wonder if one of the people he stepped on isn’t writing some tell all.
Obama became a “People Pleaser” as a result of being abandoned by both parents, thay’s why he has to vote “Present” or skip tough votes,if he makes a choice half the people won’t agree. Just look at the beginning of Obam’s Press conference in Israel, first thing he said was “See that guy over there, he will be calling on reporters for questions, if you don’t get called it’s not my fault, I WANT YOU ALL TO LIKE ME”
Instead of walkiing over to the podium - He strut his stuff deliberately. Runway — Heeeeeeeeeere heeee izzzz Missssssster Dununnnham…just another brick in the “wall”. Nice crotch shot, though. In motion.
Shit, he can strut.
Next. Dew Drop In Sarkozy was digging him. Catch that shot in the threshold as they went into celebrate one another? Frame Freeze
Gettin’ Cozy with Sarkozy. You can see his glee. All it took was that second to fall in love at first sight. Man, I’m amazingly intoxicating, he thinks.
He must love being in England. Great Britain has a puddle every couple of feet to glance in. Fetching, he thinks.
There is something very rigid about this couple that is reflected repeatedly in incidents and revelations.
Idealists to the max are nothing more than the flip side of the rightwing, in my opinion.
This is precisely why so many in the middle don’t relate to Obama. It’s not about his race. It’s about his perspective.
Rigid. That’s a perfect description. OMG you nailed it.
“This is precisely why so many in the middle don’t relate to Obama. It’s not about his race. It’s about his perspective.”
Hmmmm….Are Fascists flexible….ever ?
I withdraw this comment. Santa brings the gifts. That’s as all-American as you can get.
One year, my dad insisted that all gifts come from Santa. My grandparents unwrapped the gifts to go along. Then on Christmas morning, my brother said, “Gee, why didn’t you guys get me anything?” LOL*
That ended the excessive Santa phase in our house!
Thanks Susan, The “0″ need’s a midnight ghostly visitor (or 3 a.m. telephone call) to reveal the benefits of kindness (to troops, and working class American’s).
If not…his First Executive order may be….Mandatory work in the quarry on Dec. 25th!
Obama wants to remake the world, why not Christmas and birthdays?
My dogs get all major holiday and birthday presents.
Oblowme does not have the spirit of a person that I want to befriend, much less elect President.
Why isn’t Oblowme sitting in a cell next to Rezko?
It won’t be long. He’ll probably get indicted for worse as in his activities in swindling himself into being an American President.
He just went out into the world posing and I am sure he’s pissed off a lot of VIPs.
Imposter. There’s got to be a law. There has to be.
They don’t give their children gifts for Christmas or their b-days BUT give them a puppy when their daddy runs for president? Strange people, these obamas!
That’s because his children are only allowed to take pleasure by basking in their father’s holy glow, dontcha know.
Yep, Presense not Presents. Pretense. ho ho ho
The dog is supposed to prove he isn’t a muslim. What do you bet the poor dog isn’t allowed in the house?
I guess if Obama becomes president he will teach Americans about those limits, like not driving your car so much and for Allah’s sake turn the heat down on your homes.
As the article, Santa brings the gifts at Christmas. As for birthdays, the family hosts a big party for all the girls’ friends.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Too often these days kids get too much too soon. Tons of toys and games they never touch.
Yes, It’s the Santa deal. The kids have Christmas. It’s just that they give Santa the credit.
Come on people. Obama isn’t Muslim. LOL*
If he’s Muslim, I’m Jewish.
Yes, It’s the Santa deal. The kids have Christmas. It’s just that they give Santa the credit.
Come on people. Obama isn’t Muslim. LOL*
If he’s Muslim, I’m Jewish.
I GUESS YOU AREA NEW BORN JEWISH PERSON.
Teach them limits? As in, your birth is not worth celebrating and you’re not worth a token of my affection?
Since the children are not of voting age, they just aren’t important to Nobama.
It’s all whoreshit, Joel. It’s put out there to distract (divert) us. It’s a lesson for the youthful disciples having their babies now. (all the New Baby Barak and Barakas). I don’t care if they move his BD up to the 25th of December now that he is comfortable with his new name and new status and New Testament as long as I still get the day off, paid, i.e.
I must say, Susan’s descent into madness has been one of the more attention grabbing themes of this election season.
Where did you grab yourself again?
LMAO!
Hope,
I’m afraid our love affair may not be lasting if you’re that easily amused.
LAMO the body oder troll thinks somebody loves it.
He was talking about me pleasuring him to exhaustion in another thread. Hillarity troll is the reason bouncers keep single men out of lesbian bars.
ROFLMAO…and a sputter…..Good one Hope Floats….
It really has. I relate to her madness. Spot On.
Theme this election season: P U M A
so shut the fuck up.
ok I HATE to defend these freaks, but I did read part of the article and have to defend them here. “THEY” do not give the girls Christmas presents BUT Santa Does, so apparently they just do not get gifts from Mom and Dad.
as for Bdays, they said they spent a couple hundred on sleep over parties, but don’t buy a Bday gift. I know alot of parents that since the kids will be getting presents at the party, consider the party their “gift”.They celebrate both Christmas and Bday, just don’t give gifts from the parents.
Gosh I feel like I need a shower sticking up for them. BUT there is so much to attack them about, I don’t want something that isn’t as bad as the headlines make it seem, come back to make us look like we are trying to make something that isn’t really there.
Oh c’mon….Some of us are just having a little fun here….
this is not really very funny.
those are pretty good house rules.
i can generally find humor in most things, but not this.
Letting people die in his district is ok, but this bothers you? you’re twisted.
You seem to have confused this site with one that isn’t a nest of hyperbole and distorted propaganda.
Do you honestly think SusanUnHinged cares at all about any degree of intellectual honesty when it comes to Obama?
YES I do, JUst because you don’t like most of the things written here about the great Obamas, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I’ve sent things to Susan before and we look for places to check the facts before she writes things.
There is a reason many many Dems will never vote for Obama and most of it comes from things Obama or his wife have said with their own mouths. Or records, altho since Obama hides most of his lives records and makes up composit characters in his autobiographies, sometimes it takes some digging to get to the truth about this fraud who talked about how important Transparency is. (but lost all his state records, bugs ate his school records, ect)
He’s the worst hypocrite I’ve seen in my lifetime running for president.
Truly.
Bush? I got exactly who Bush was and what he’d do if elected. I watched as the public said “YES.”
I had no resentments, either, because he did not BS about his positions or his perspective. I disagreed with the public.
But Obama? Obama is a liar.
Please…
This site is nothing but throw any and all shit against a wall and hope something sticks.
I mean - when you alternate between “Obama is Stalin” and “Obama is Hitler” weeks, you’ve pretty much scuttled any shred of credibility behind a “we care about the truth” meme.
I’m no Obama worshipper - I readily accept that he has his faults, but no one here is really interested in honest discussion, which is why I don’t bother with anything more than playing the gadfly.
Don’t vote for him… I’m not here to win convert — I’m here for sport.
There are Haters everywhere!
Stop the hate!
They can’t. It’s a fringe thing
Ha!
On thread where 75% of the posters are screeching “I knew it, he’s a MUSLIM” because they didn’t bother to RTFA — and of course, the organ grinder in charge intended precisely that with the perfectly excerpted post, there most certainly IS hate everywhere.
We don’t care that BOBO is a muslim. We’re concerned about his deception.
Hate to the right of me, Hate to the left of me and here I am stuck in the middle with you!
P.S. I don’t believe 75% of people on this blog believe Obama is a muslin.
Although, he should know that when he talks about not giving Christmas and birthday presents there are demominations in the Christian faith (that some people believe these demonimations are fanatical) it could lead to questioning.
The point is he has to examine everything he says and does from all angles and he doesn’t.
Just like not visiting the wounded troops in Germany. For someone already accused by the right as being unpatriotic, you have to know how that is going to be perceived.
Basically, he doesn’t do his homework!
You mean the one that the Pentagon nixed?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/pentagon_confirms_that_it_told.php
Nothing stopped BOBO from stopping in for a visit.
And, there in lies your problem. You accept just about anything!
The Pentagon gave restrictions to the visit but didn’t PREVENT the visit:
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Pentagon did not tell Obama he couldn’t visit, but explained that he would be under specific restrictions.
“We do have certain policy guidelines for political campaigns and elections and what is appropriate and what is not appropriate in those situations,” he said. “The issue here is that if you are both a sitting senator and a political candidate … you need to do it in your capacity as a sitting senator or you have to do it with the restrictions that apply to any other candidate out there that might be running for office that is not a sitting senator.”
A memo sent out Wednesday from Undersecretary of Defense David Chu explained that Obama’s visit to such a military facility would be limited under these circumstances. Obama would not have been able to bring any of his campaign staff — only one Senate staffer and security. He also would not have been able to address the media or make any campaign-related statements.
Now, Stop the hate, hater!
Pentagon announced this morning that they DID NOT tell bobo he shouldn’t go there. They told his minions NO PRESS.
Of course, no press=no bo.
exactly
And Hillarity doesn’t know what to say.
Stop the hate!
Senator Obama has made several quiet visits to Walter Reed with just a simple sentence about the visit in the press. Please check it out. By the way since you are so interested in our soldiers have you written your congressperson to ask about wait time for treatment upon returning home, upkeep of living quarters or demanding an end to shoddy work by American contractors in Iraq that has resulted in 16 electrocutions. Now since you know how to email I am sure that a patriotic person like yourself will get busy and do just that-a far more productive use of your time my dear.
So why didn’t he do the same in Germany?
Cleanup! Aisle 6!
LOL…..better add aisles 6 through 10…..chuckle….
I hatewhen trolls talk to each other. they have the same manners as the bos. Shouldn’t they have their own place to post, so they can tell each other how smart and pretty they are without bothering us?
meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
Megalomania is an unrealistic belief in one’s superiority, grandiose abilities, and even omnipotence. It is characterized by a need for total power and control over others, and is marked by a lack of empathy for anything that is perceived as not feeding the self.
And then there are the megalomaniac’s enablers…Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Dean, Dodd, Hart, Carter, etc. This deluded megalomaniac would be nowhere without these deluded failures and losers.
Unle$$ they are a lot den$er than I think they are, they mu$t not be $eeing the $ame thing we are $eeing.
WAKE UP sUPERDELEGATEs!! DON’T $ELL U$ OUT!
Obama can seemingly walk on water with that bunch of losers wearing snorkels and holding him up.
Oooobbbammmaa….cureddd my sttutttering….nnnuff said….
Ooh I get it. Barky Nobama says they set limits and don’t lavish their children with gifts; (hoping what? that will appeal to the Noblesse Oblige voting demographic?) when in reality Santa stuffs presents under the tree and birthdays are fun-filled slumber parties!
Words. Just words. As usual with Barky, have to look at his actions.
What horseshit. So the great judgment lesson is that they don’t give gifts?!
They’re just too cheap and lazy as usual.
More jerk behavior from the anti-American Oblowmes.
What kind of “set limits” does BHO have in store for us?
Sounds like we’ll be getting none of the carrots and all of the sticks.
Hope he doesn’t outlaw cucumbers.
Inquiring minds want to know.
well, he did say we can’t drive suv’s, or eat what we want or turn to heat up when we’re cold. hmm, I’d like to see the energy bills for the house he can’t afford. Btw, has he been driving a veedub for the campaign?
Obama is a muslim, not by choice but by birth. I come from Singapore and am very familiar with the muslim habits and traditions. They do not celebrate christmas, do not give presents on birthdays and do not keep dogs in their homes.
I also wonder if grandma has been raising the Obama kids since both parents have spent most of their professional lives running for office.
Oh come on
info: http://www.qss.org/articles/celebrations/6-4.html
To be fair…Pia is just offering regional and religious information.
Lots of black families I know who aren’t Muslim and don’t celebrate Christmas….but most do. My aunt didn’t celebrate it with gifts but now she does and she is a fundamentalist Christian.
Christmas traditions can hold fast in some families and in others can embrace new traditions or religious awakenings.
There is nothing wrong with that.
Christmas is celebrated differently in everyone’s house.
And finally. Kids staying with Grandma is a good thing…I doubt Pia was making a slam against Grandmas….lol
Good point about Grandma….and thanks for sharing about the Muslim traditions.
It sounds like the Christmas gifts from Santa might go away when they are old enough.
but, but, Pia…
Diane Sawyer assured us all yesterday that Obama is
“ABSOLUTELY AMERICAN” and “ABSOLUTELY CHRISTIAN”!!!
She was pretty emphatic about it. I do not have the link, it was the morning show that she co-hosts. So, if Diane Sawyer says it, it must be true.
Right?
Right???
Dianne Sawyer who also said Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Pressley had sex and said Clay Aiken was hetero??
Yeah, if Dianne said it, it must be true.
Oh, unwanted visual.
Ehemmm….WRIIIGHT!
Ahhh parental guilt of daily lives of excess strikes the Obama household. Here’s a newflash– if you set limits and don’t indulge your child for the other 363 days out of the year; you can be generous and spoil them a bit for two days out of the year.
Did you read the article- the intview was done in front of the girls and WINK was written after Michelle’s quote:
Michelle Obama told People: “Malia says, ‘I know there is a Santa because there’s no way you’d buy me all that stuff.’ ”
Wink.
In my family when we were lttle my mom and dad did not buy us gifts either- it was Santa LOL My hubby and I did the same thing with our children….until they were old enough and we had to tell them the truth that it was US buying the gifts
I pretended for two years after I found the gifts hidden in a bedroom.
And this is a Christian? Is he a Jehovah’s Witness? I know they don’t celebrate Christmas either. This guy is too much. He’s a closet Muslim and no one wants to deal with this except for us.
READ THE ARTICLE!!! He DOES celebrate Christmas….the kids just simply think SANTA buys them gifts not Mom and Dad
exactly. read the article. don’t cherry pick. it makes your argument look weak.
LOL*…….you guys are funny. I say he’s a Wright Christian.
But in any case, I agree that the story is off-the-mark. Santa often brings kids the presents rather than the parents.
It’s all-American secular Christmas stuff.
I withdraw my comment that he’s weird in this matter.
How quaint, Santa buys the presents! It’s a regular Victorian Christmas over at the Obamas. Everyone knows that “buying” presents is crass, so let’s hide that dirty capitalism behind a jolly elf. Kinda sounds like Obama, if you ask me.
These people do not love this country, it’s traditions or its values. It doesn’t take a genius to guess where their loyalty stands. If you want to elect a trojan horse to our highest office, elect this faux christian.
they don’t get birthday gifts because they throw them elaborate birthday parties and they get presents from the friends attending the parties.
the girls do get gifts at christmas but they are from “santa” and not mom and dad. i don’t see what the big deal is? it seems to me that you all really go out on a limb to make these people out to be monsters. they are just trying to set limits for their kids. something more wealthy people should try to do.
hey Yesbama,
Its sad how these rumors get started and we just witnessed the birth of the latest Obama rumor/lie. people dont take time out to read the entire article- or they leave out key points.
they’re just scared. and I may even go so far as to say ignorant. i just hope that once he has been in office for a couple of years and they see how this country has changed for the better, they will see the error of their ways.
Or bored. I don’t remember ever caring about Chelsea except wondering if she looked more like Web Hubbell or Janet Reno.
It’s more like we cannot bear to see another magazine mainstream media fluff piece on these guys, and we tend to see the worst in them. Only people with strong fortitude can bear to get into the media’s buy in with the Obama’s.
But this still leaves the question, what is the deal with Birthday presents anyway? What is wrong with buying your kid something for their Birthday???
because they spend a lot of money on the party itself. when i turned 21 my parent through me an elaborate party for myself and my friends on a chartered yacht. that was my gift. period.
you partied on a yacht, and went home with dingy.
i went home with gifts from friends and relatives. that was enough.
Did the world fawn over you enough on your yacht?
Why didn’t they arrange a picnic for you at the Taj Mahal? Cheapskates!
I can see why this person likes bo. Wants to be a princess in the new regime.
LOL, I had to hit and run, glad y’all took care of that one for me
Bing! BOOM! POW~ THWAAK!
Oh, I’ve been to Nice and the isles of Greece
when I sipped champagne on a yacht
I moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo
and showed them what I’ve got
I’ve been undressed by kings
and I’ve seen some things that a woman ain’t s’pose to see
I’ve been to paradise but I’ve never been to me…
nah… I think the party is for show… after all, it would make the kids outcasts if they were not like other kids. And this is not a party on a yacht for a 21 year old. These are little kids. Okay, we are overboard since we did not read the article to get the part about Santa buying/making/delivering the gifts.
I wish that Barack and Michelle Obama should just lay it all out there, straight up, this is who we are, this is what we believe, this is why we believe it, and this is how we’d like to make things happen - and then let the chips fall where they may. The American people are not going to appreciate being played for chumps should they do the insane thing and elect this couple to the White House.
You still sucking their blood or are you off on your own yet?
Apparently they didn’t give you an education, however.
through me an elaborate…
should be
threw me….yada yada yada
And so do you really believe that marxism will allow you to enjoy elaborate parties? What would the beautiful and long lost daughters of the czar of Russia say about that?
Time to get your loyaties straight.
NObama - ever!
Wait, she forget to tell us about her advanced degrees.
I watched this happen continuously on a pro-Obama site.
Remember NAFTAgate?
Lordy, talk about screwing with the facts!
And there are still people convinced that it was Hillary who *winked,* even today after Obama has publicly flip-flopped on even reviewing NAFTA contracts.
Don’t let facts interfere with emotional truth, eh?
On this we can agree. Both sides are prone to cherrypick and ignore the contradictions.
How much you wanna bet those parties turn into fundraisers for mummy and daddy?
I don’t see him doing that at all. Maybe the guest list is a bit self-serving, but to be honest? I see yuppie parents in my community doing exactly the same.
Birthday parties are out of control here. I don’t know about your place, but here it’s a full-blown adult party and a “theme” deal for the kids. It’s so competitive that I thank my HP everytime I’m around one that I raised my son back in the days when going to Chucky Cheese was the top drawer BD deal. LOL*
Hover parents…..*blech*
“Maybe the guest list is a bit self-serving”
Bingo! You pinned the tail right on that donkey.
Thhe Obamas are so hypocritical…they talk about sacrifice and working for the community interest and the common good and yet like the true black bourgeoisie that they are, they send their children to the effete “university of chicago lab school” sneering at the public school system that they claim to support.
What limits are they talking about? There is nothing that the Obama household does that in anyway mirrors even in a minute manner, ordinary americans. Are they living in the United States of Arabia?
The Obama Snobbery will go down in history as the most delusional.
It isn’t weird if you’re a muslim…
it’s great to teach children limits although I don’t believe that is what they’re doing. Part of the meaning of Christmas is giving. So it is good to give presents and allow children to do the same so they learn this. Learning to give is very important. You can still do this without going overboard.
people parent in different ways. you do not need to agree with his policies, but to attack someone’s parenting skills is weak. the girls seem to be well rounded intelligent as far as i can tell from the small amount of press they have gotten. what i would question is a presidential candidate allowing his daughter to do an interview which shows a picture of her sitting in her luxury apartment with a beer in her hand.
wonderful diagnosis Dr. Frist.
tee hee hee
LOL!
Oh please, but let Obama chastise black fathers on Father’s Day. No wonder Jesse wanted his pound, or should I say ounce, of flesh.
Soooo you lecture someone about attacking someone’s parenting skill as weak and then turn around and do the exact same thing?
LOL!!
Yesbama. OK. You can leave now. Thanks! Take care! Good Luck!
just read upstairs..I guess Santa isn’t a muslim then
Obama won’t give his girls Christmas presents, but he’ll sure pass out free music, beer, and brauts to try and draw a crowd to one of his speeches.
ok, I don’t understand, If “Santa” gives them gifts, then why did they say they are trying to teach the girls limits?? If they have big bday parties and get gifts from the guests, how is this teaching them limits? I’m not buying it…just another ploy to try to make it look like they’re an All American family. Those kinds of families don’t sit at Rev. Wright’s church.
Well, all of them do the PR drill on their families. Usually, there’s a crazy relative kept hidden away during campaigns.
I haven’t yet spotted Obama or Michelle’s crazy relative yet, but I’m guessing there’s someone.
Well, if his adopted Chicago family at the TUCC is any indication, you can just imagine what he is trying to hide.
You forgot the great uncle in the Navy who liberated the Jews from Aushwitz. Weed’s in the attic!
Actually, I think Wright is his true “crazy uncle.” *wink*
Hmm, that would make for an interesting family tree.
Maybe they get a big hoo-haa celebration on Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa Timmy coming down the chimney and all that…
Going after Jehovah’s witnesses, I s’pose….
DING DING DING.
(NOTE: I posted this in the string on the RNC’s radio ad but I felt compelled to post it here because this thread is more active and I just really wanted you folks to know that there are those of us out here who are pulling for you)
Hello, this is my first post here. Full disclosure: I am a Republican. BUT I am NOT a straight ticket guy. My last three presidential votes were Clinton, Bush, write in McCain/Lieberman (honestly, it’s true!). My reason for NOT voting for Bush in the last election had nothing to do with the war but with the blurring of/damage to the separation of Church and State by the far right wing of my party. I describe myself NOT as in independent, but as a Centrist. I define Centrism not as a specifically recognizable ideology but in the fact that you would not be able to predict any position I hold on key social/political issues based on my beliefs on any other issue: i.e., being Hawkish on foreign policy doesn’t equate to other so-called ‘conservative’ values — I’m very pro-choice and very much in favor of gay marriage and all the benefits (and pitfalls!) that come with it!
I give this full disclosure only so that no one confuses me for a GOP troll or an Ozombie.
I’ve been perusing this site since the primary ended because I’ve become fascinated with how the Democratic primary played out and, frankly, by how horribly Hillary Clinton was treated. It was obvious. It was blatant and it was, totally, completely, racist. Period. There is no arguing this point, the Obama campaign played the race card from day one because it’s the ONLY card they have to play against those not addicted to a rather shallow MTV culture.
I just felt compelled to iterate something that has been rolling around in my thoughts for a while.
I fear an Obama presidency. I fear it not for myself, but for my two sons. I fear what this person would do to any hopes and dreams my kids may some day have.
I am voting for John McCain, proudly, happily, for a lot of reasons. He was right on Iraq, from how poorly it was handled early on to the ’surge’ to what to do now and to what do in the future. He speaks to me as an American NOT because I agree with every issue he stands for but because I do NOT agree with every one: He would still talk to me about those disagreements and honestly listen. He’s shown that he works across the isle, he’s shown that he will buck the GOP when needs to.
My ultimate point is this: When I go to sleep at night, I am literally afraid of what would happen if America actually sleptwalked through the fall and elected a Marxist to the Oval Office. I fear his presidency, I fear for my kids. I love my boys. They mean everything to me and I want them to have every chance that I had, that I worked hard for, that this nation has to offer. I know in my heart Obama will strive to take all that away, to give it to a strange global community that he feels he must lead.
I was so hoping that Hillary was going to win the Democratic nomination. I would not have voted for her over McCain. But there is one thing I know: Had the election come down to Hillary and McCain, I would never have gone to sleep at night worried about the future of my children because both of those individuals have proven themselves to be true patriots. They love this country. They may disagree on issues but not on America.
I’d like to thank you, as a Centrist Republican, for not falling victim to this strange cult-like malaise that has fallen over the young voters in this country; for not falling victim to the race-bating fear so blatantly being played upon the American public; for not believing an arrogant press; for standing up for your convictions.
I am not a religious person, I do not fancy organized religion or pray. If I did, however, I would be thinking of you all, hoping that you maintain the strength to carry on this fight, to help America in November keep this bizarre political creation out of office and to help assure that two wonderful boys that I kiss good night every evening with trepidation in my heart have a future to look forward to.
Thank you,
Pat
We’re the pawns in a coup. It is very scary.
America as it is, is not good enough for him. He drips conceit and is in love with himself. The symbolism is overbearing, but a good thing, because it is the writing on the wall.
46 years alive and less than 30 years in our beloved Mainland. WTF?
Look to his hometown, his very own distict, and see for your self the Hope and Change he’s accomplished. His city is under seige and he’s ripped off his people and used them for his peronal wealth and ultimate mission.
Look at all the major cities in our country. It’s only getting worse while he’s running for Savior and Redeemer of the World.
He’s a dangerous farce along with the people who have launched this obsenity.
He flicked Hillary off his shoulders and gave her the finger in public. Awesome, wouldn’t you say?
His campaign, unfortunately, has perfectly followed a totalitarian path and, as lemmings to a cliff, the uninformed — ultimately lazy or self-hating — voter has followed. Which is literally right out of a totalitarian game plan.
Anyway, keep of the fight.
Thanks,
Pat
Well don’t worry, they all plan to do well by taking a piece of your pie.
Dripping of conceit is a very effective image.
Patrick,
Nice note. I agree with you and that is why Party means nothing this year. Country means all. That is why I will vote Republican for the first time.
I don’t want America to change that much…just become more fair. I have been middle class all my life and I have never been envious of the rich because I have always worked for and had everything I need. I love America, and its values, and I want this country to remain as I know it even with all its faults. We always seem to find a way back, and I know it is because we are free and we care deeply for each other.
I think I have more in common with moderate Republicans as a moderate Democrat than I have with the faction that is in control right now in the Democratic Party.
I think that’s why the pleas to return to the fold here are falling on my own deaf ears.
I think they are as rigid as the right-wing was over the Republican party, and neither extreme helps the country.
As a moderate, I’m a bit tired of the extremes controlling elections.
I had decided that my own solution was to truly look for good solid moderate Republicans and Democrats to back. Screw this label stuff. It’s time to get sane.
So I hope you keep posting and sharing who falls into that category. I’m sick of the rhetoric from the Obamanuts. It’s as partisan as I’ve ever seen in my life. They would discount any fact if it doesn’t come from their “approved” press sources. That’s stupid thinking. It means they don’t trust their own ability to ferret truth from fiction.
Obama isn’t Muslim. Obama isn’t anti-Santa Claus. Obama isn’t radical left. Obama IS weak. Obama IS all about Obama. Obama ISN’T a solutions guy.
That’s plenty for me to not vote for him. Truly. I am convinced that we need solutions to real problems, and we simply don’t have 8 years to wait just because a black president would look good on our world record. That’s all about image, anyway.
The truth is the truth. If America has overcome racism in large part, then it’s in the daily events and lives and support systems where that truth resides. It isn’t about electing a black president.
If we have not, we have not.
I personally think that huge strides were made in my lifetime, and that trend will absolutely continue, regardless of Obama. I think huge strides have been made for women, too. People WERE
to finish my thought…
People WERE outraged. The media boys didn’t get by with their schtick.
And the media lost viewers and spurred a grassroots movement against them.
That tells me alot. People are fed up with racism, ageism, sexism, homophobia, you name it.
Time to stop the insanity.
I’m a Republican voter, recently I, along with many suburban Philadlephia Republicans crossed over to vote Judge Seamus McCafferty (D) to PA State Supreme Court. Judge Seamus’ support in the urban, mostly (D) precincts was soft. Some of us do not blindly toe the party line. I also would sleep easier at night with Hillary as POTUS, rather than BO. That is why I am supporting the efforts of The Denver Group, since the ONLY way to be assured of Obama being knocked out of the race is to have Hillary as Dem nominee.
What we need to do is exchange information about good solid moderates, whether Democrat or Republican.
I’m rather tired of being a minority voice. The truth is we’re not a minority. We’re the majority.
But the fringe element are screamers.
They take up the air.
Hi Pat,
Welcome to the board! I am more of a centrist as well and have always enjoyed reading lots of opinions on subjects. It is an excellent opportunity for everyone to learn something new.
Personally, it is always refreshing to read that Republicans saw what happened to Hillary.
I will be looking forward to your posts.
After seeing Obama’s traits with Rezko and Ayers, I’m not interested in inflicting him on other people either.
I will never vote for Obama, but my vote against him might not make a difference in CA.
So, I also hope that people will vote country over party in the other states.
Ditto here, Karma. It looks like we get to coast as far as choosing this year.
We’re blue, so I can write in Hillary if that’ll make me sleep better.
I think that California might not go blue this year, if they keep Hillary off the ballot, My family of 7 votes and most of my friends will be voting for John McCain.
Country before Party Always!!
PumaPac
Thanks Karma et al for the greetings.
More importantly, thanks for your clear heads and your resolve on this issue.
It’s an interesting and varied community you have here.
Thanks,
Pat
I only started paying attention to the Dem primary when I saw what happened in my own state -PA. Hillary was outspent by Obama 3-1, all we saw on TV were Obama ads, 24-7. She beat him by 9 points. Obama could not even carry Bucks County, which was supposed to be his demographic.
Then when she went on to win other battleground states, some of us (R)s started wondering what the heck was happenning in the D party. An (r) friend of mine was so upset by the media’s treatment of Hillary, that she pulled out her checkbook and wrote a check for $2300 to the HRC campaign. Yes, even Republicans noticed. And we wondered why the MSM had turned on her so viciously. Even if they thought she was yesterday’s news, and doesn’t represent The New Democrat party, they could have let her down less brutally.
This whole election has taken the dog and pony show of politics to a whole new level.
The MSM and Obama have repeatedly left me shocked or ranting at the tv.
I don’t understand why the MSM turned on her so viciously either. And none of the answers that come to mind give me any solace.
Something smells in the DNC and MSM and I want no part of it.
Especially with a candidate that smears entire states, such as yours, in order to exploit racial/victimization points. While Hillary is actually being victimized and smeared.
Of course, the talking heads like Matthews would completely dismiss their participation in your friend’s donation.
No wonder the Dems lose so much…their actions don’t match their words.
Karma: I had a very poor opinion of the Clintons ever since they came to national attention.
That said… many of the conservatives/Republicans that I know and I all have been shocked because of our admiration of Hillary’s determination in the primary.
We see media bias right away because the media is usually biased against conservatives/Republicans.
I have never seen the Press so blantanty biased about anything in my life than as they were during the Primary. It exceeded what Dan Rather did to Bush in 04.
So seeing Hillary fight against it. and charge on with her agenda (which I do not support).. and try to deal with the passive-aggressive manipulations of Obama changed my opinion of her and many other people’s opinion.
Then she started showing up on OReilly’s show and was LAID BACK while also sticking to her guns. I resepct that in someone.
I only wish she hadn’t told some lies .. I believe her two episodes of gratitious lying cost her the nomination.
THe first was taking both sides in the Licenses for Illegals topic (maybe lie is a strong word) and the other was the Sniper at the Bosnia Airport thing.. that was really stupid.
Finally seeing Obama for what he is,, and knowing what he’s planning on doing to our military (end missle defense, cut spending, get rid of nukes).. I’m mortified.
Despite my opposition to Clinton’s economic ideas I would gladly vote for her over Obama.. (and maybe even over McCain.. I cant stand McCain)
So a lot of us are just really confused because never in a million years would we ever have thought that we would be rooting for Hilary and defending her.. but many of us are.
I was raised to watch for the bias too. My mother had no illusions about the media and would pick topics to debate, switch sides, and we would debate from the other side just to strengthen those critical thinking skills when I was a kid.
So this year shocked even cynical me.
I agree those two issues cost Hillary a lot of momentum as well as the MI and FL thing. In the long run, with the fix looking like it was in since 04. It makes you wonder if even without those stumbles would the outcome be different?
That O’Reilly show interview was brilliant for both people. He didn’t back down and neither did she, but it was respectful, informative, and I agree…laid back. They both shined as a result. I doubt Obama could rise to the challenge like she did, he knows O’Reilly would never let him escape like the rest of the media has.
Of all the things Obama has said. I believe him when he says that he’ll be kneecapping our military, space programs, and slowing down our technological advances. He should be tried for treason, if in office, and he actually attempts to implements those ideas. It is one thing to cut wasteful spending, it is quite another to slow down military technology when it has given the world so much besides bombs.
With the MSM tied to those industries it makes you wonder why they buried those revelations?
We are true patriots in the full sense of the word. We believe in country over party politics.
i think that the non practice of christmas gifting or giving the kids b’day gifts is, as another commenter here suggests, very possibly Muslim connected viv a vis obama’s own upbringing and Muslim background. i’m thinking there is a mixed religious/cultural thingy going on.
but, whatever….this is just more wheel spinning on my part.
basically, the guy is not fit to lead the country. period.
what weird surreal planet can we possibly be on now?
Hillary or McCain in ‘08.
Santa brings the presents in American homes all over.
If that’s Muslim, then a whole lotta closet Muslims are out there.
Glenn Beck Obama coverage embarrassing… good for him
http://www.glennbeck.com/
Don’t anyone pounce on me, just kidding, but Santa brought my sons their toys…I didn’t give them presents from until they no longer believed in Santa.
Nope, not an Obamabot either. Go John McCain!
I just had to de-lurk to say that I don’t think its so lofty that they throw the kids a lavish party and expect the guests to give them presents. Why not tell the guests “no gifts please.” I know a lot of people that do that. It’s a nice way to make the birthday less about “getting presents” and more about celebrating with friends.
I don’t see it so much as about religion as about child rearing techniques–and this is a cruel one. Their kids are at the age where other kids notice differences and may make unwarranted asessments (e.g., for Christmas, they must have been bad which is why Santa didn’t come to their house.) OK, I was never big on this Santa business, but still other kids just don’t know the difference.
Birthdays are just as bad–do their kids get invited to other kids’ parties? How do they feel about that?
It’s hard enough being a kid these days without dumping excess baggage on them. There is no need to overdo, but SOMETHNG…
they do get gifts from santa. please don’t cherry pick read the entire article.
why would they? Muslims don’t believe in Santa.
More whoreshit
They don’t celebrate Christmas because their Muslims. Period. This fraud should not even be in the running for any elected office.
My family gets presents from a couple of Muslim families and we give their kids presents. Religion is not the reason they don’t give their kids presents. They probably don’t want shop for anyone other than themselves. Can you imagine him in a store thinking about and/or buying for someone other than himself?
Is it REALLY any of our business?
The pair of them, Sasquatch and Hope-a-Dope, have plenty of bad points already without our critiquing how they spend their holidays or rear their children.
ANd I say that IN SPITE OF how loathsome and disgusting I find the pair of them.
Well, if it was none of our business, why did he open his flap to People Magazine about it? He sounds rather proud of his excellent parenting techniques, even if they involve withholding and deception as disciplinary devices.
does anybody here really think obama is muslim?
I do. He is. And I think that “he protestest too much”.
what proof do you have that he is?
His brother’s testimony
if you care to have all of the information here is an article from israeli insider that says that is not the case:
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm
generally you only have a muslim background if you’re a muslim. It’s funny how things like that work.
my entire family is catholic. growing up i went to church was confirmed etc. i am now an atheist. does that mean you would still consider me to be catholic?
Did you lie and tell people you were Hindu while growing up in Rome?
where is your proof that he lied?
his brothers testimony.
his brother never said that.
sure he did
So did his sister. She said that he prayed with his Muslim step-father.
The catholics sure would. You haven’t left thier church in any thing other than mind. Mind’s change.
your argument is weak. it’s not backed by any proof or facts, just your opinion that obama is a liar.
it;s backed by his brothers testamony. As far as BOBO being a liar.
two weeks later….BOBO did disown Wright.
weak weak weak. you need to educate yourself. it’s clear that you dont.
BOBO did it. It’s on the record. LOL thrash and flail all you want. You can’t change what has already been done.
You’re right. The Catholics would. And secretly, so do you. Being a Catholic is like being a Chicagoan, it never leaves you. I know, being a lapsed both things.
If you received the sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation by Catholic clergy, in the eyes of the Catholic church, you are still Catholic.
You are not an observant Catholic.
If at the end of your life, you have a deathbed “reversion” and wish to be buried in consecrated ground, maybe one of your observant family members will be able to pull some strings to have you interred in a Catholic cemetery.
It does not matter what your current beliefs or practices are. Once a baptized Catholic, always a Catholic.
(and no, you can’t ex-communicate yourself)
The reason for that is the catholic church needs to keep up their dwindling numbers, so they call you “lapsed”. In Islam, however, you are considered a heretic and the worst parts of hell await you.
I know there’s a lot of talk about dwindling numbers in the Catholic Church…so why do I have to make sure to get to Mass early every Sunday to get a parking space? In my area some city churches have closed because their parishioners have moved to the suburbs, thereby necessitating the building and/or expansion of suburban churches.
You can check out any Catholic Catechism for the reason why confirmed and baptized Catholics are considered members of the faith for life…I’ll give you a hint: It’s a spiritual thing, has nothing to do with earthly concerns such as dwindling numbers of adherents to the faith.
Yes, this is guilt-by-association thinking.
Another term? Paranoia. LOL*
Yesbama…..There is a special place in the hereafter for apostates…..check it out….I’m sure if givin the chance you’ll be screamin for a priest at the end….most apostates do…lol
Were you Baptized? Your still Catholic.
YESBAMA admitted to receiving all the critical sacraments…Baptism, Communion/confession, Confirmation…After the last one he qualifies as an APOSTATE….not very smart…..If all that blather about the afterlife is true…..Which is why many apostates are screaming like babies for a priest in the end….sheeeesh!
the fact that if your father is muslim, you are muslim by birth, like IF your Mother is Jewish, you are Jewish by birth.
Also he wrote in his book about his Koran studies, at the school that had different religions, where he was enrolled with Islam as his religion and the only kids that took that particular Koran class were Muslim?
No, of course not. I don’t think Obama is religious. Period.
I think he joined Trinity for the connections.
It’s backfired now, but it got him to where he is, too.
He needed those connections.
No I think he’s a Narcissistic pathological-lying Duplicitous Vote Whore. Is that a religion?
Yeah, it’s called mormonism. Just ask Orrin Hatch and Mike Leavitt.
Mitt’s in a class by himself. He’s just grandiose and doesn’t particularly lie too much.
Actually Obama would make a great mormon, if it weren’t for the smoking and gay sex. Oh wait, mormons have their own special twist - polygamy!!
And for you mormons who want to rush in and defend…here’s a question.
What other religion brought to America and actually embraced, practiced, and exalted polygamy? The clock is ticking…
The fact that they don’t give birthday presents or celebrate Christmas shouldn’t come as a surprise since Obama in his book the Audacity of Hope, wrote how being with people who were too white(including blacks) made him uncomfortable and didn’t like the West
Then add that he and his moronic Piranah like wife attended TUCC for over 20 years. A church that preaches Afrocentrism, white bigotry and worships a God that that is nothing but a caricature of Allah and Marx.
Christmas and Birthdays are just too western and white for the son of Kenya and whose religious views are more rooted in Islam than Christianity.
Who hurt you, honey? You seem to have such anger. Don’t be ashamed to let it out. There, there. we won’t let the Bad Man get you.
Another hater, lackey dog, back from the woods!
Stop the hate!
It’s not “hate.” It’s ridicule. Know the difference.
That would make you ridiculous.
I call it like I see it, HATER!
Stop the hate!
If only you could.
lackey tells me you don’t have a very good opinion of yourself. Why would anyone want to be a lackey. BTW, did you finish polishing my riding boots?
Donna, it’s time for your seventh meal of the day.
But you support BOBO. LOL there’s a bit of a contradiction there.
Promise?
You people are crazy. In the interview his little girl says Santa gives them gifts, not mom and dad.
Obviously he doesn’t want his daughters to think he is spoiling them. Does this mean you morons believe in “Santa”.
THIS ENTIRE LIST SHOWS HOW IGNORANT THE ANTI-OBAMA SMEAR MASTERS ARE!!!
Don’t you call me, “you people.” I’m offended.
Stop the hate!
Noted. You are now officially “You idiots.”
Hey running LAP dog:
Stop the hate!
Birds of a feather, flock together, idiot.
The article DOES NOT say they don’t get Christmas presents. Many parents forego gifts attributed to the parents and let Santa get the credit. I was more weirded out by the description of their “velvet couch” in the living room. Not my design choice.
LOL!!
Yeah it was the ‘velvet couch’ that got me too.
What color did you picture it?
Was there a velvet bull and bullfighter picture on the wall behind it? Any flocking?
my bet is dogs playing poker.
Please don’t expect Larry’s Legion of Jilted Prom-Dates to actually READ the article. All they need is a headline that triggers their knee-jerk sense of wounded victimhood and righteous indignation at a world that refuses to take them seriously, no matter how cool the new PUMA T-shirts are and how many innocent fax machines they burn out with their endless manifestos and threats to the media, SDs and DNC.
I will miss these people after Denver, when they go up to the spaceship to be with Hillary.
Don’t mistake my remarks as any support for BHO. I am a Hillary supporter.
Heretic! Blasphemer! PUMAs, attack!
we attack running dog lackeys well asshole.
it’s best not to look behind you.
something might come up real fast from the rear and rip your fucking throat out.
go jack off in the corner.
there’s a good dog.
PUMA!
you spend a lot of time worrying about what the world thinks about you don;t you HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
This is something interesting about the Obama “back story.” http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/24/obama-beat-reporter-the-campaigns-terrified-of-people-poking-around-obamas-life
me, too. HAHAAH AHAHA HAA
WildChild, you (and a couple of others) save me so much typing time. I swear to Goddess. (I can’t type very well and plus, I hate typing).
Laffing!! It all good!
Making me think, “obama’s gums {still} look sick”, i mishya!
That’s why we can’t stand your messiah…he looks down on us like we just jilted prom dates, lackey.
Spot On! lackey.
Can’t wait to see you scraping off that wad of a bumpersticker as fast as you can, lackey.
See, PUMA, some of these campaign aides trolling for employment to make their living have a half of brain somewhere in there. They are just degrading, by nature.
How about that, Governor Rendell?
Hey Obama Lackey, we aren’t going anywhere before we vote. Count on that.
I guess I’m overly sensitive, but I would have wanted a gift from my mom and dad for Christmas and my birthday as a child. Santa was just for fun, and I never would have appreciated an elaborate party over something I could hold and keep.
My son had an elaborate college graduation party, and I was amazed when he said he didn’t know how to be the center of attention since he had never even had a birthday party! He had one every year until he was 10. He can tell you every gift I ever gave him, though.
PLUS, how do the girls learn to show gratitude? They can’t hug Santa and say “thank you”, so they just learn to expect a showering of gifts with no obligation to gift anyone in return?
It’s strange no matter how you look at it! But, it does keep them from having to connect with their girls and take the focus off themselves.
My parents pretended that my gifts were from Santa Claus, too. It’s what people do with young children at Christmas in the white, Western world.
What the hell is wrong with you people? What is the great, howling emptiness in your lives that you need to fill with the nefarious, evil inhumanity of the Obamas?
Go back to bitching about zoning laws and your neighbor’s shabby garden.
I’ve told you before Lap Dog about using the phrase, “you people.”
Stop the hate!
what is the great howling emptiness in your life that you have to fill it to the brim with the hopey-changey kool-aid?
LOL*……..
Methinks you nailed it.
This may well be the group that bugs the neighbors about cat shit.
Yes, many parents buy Christmas presents and tell the kids the gifts are from Santa.
But I guarantee there is not another single couple in all the US that says they do not give our kids Christmas or birthday presents because we “want to teach some limits.” And, then showering the same kids with presents from Santa “Malia says, ‘I know there is a Santa because there’s no way you’d buy me all that stuff.’ ”.
The Ibamas say they want to teach limits, yet shower the kids with gifts from Santa and spend hundreds of dollars on birthday parties.
Ummm, excuse me…… where exactly are those limits?
Stradling both sides of every issue. Even with Christmas presents. Why am I not surprised?
And this would not even be an issue if the walking gaff machines could stop talking about themselves. Ibama and MEchelle are both narcissists. A match truly made in heaven.
Gratitude is not part of their make up assuming the fruit didn’t fall from the old bitter fruit tree.
Pat
Thanks for the post…I agree about fear of the future!
On the subject at hand, I absolutely believe in limits for children, but this is a guy who is blowing millions out his exhaust pipe to buy the Presidency! Lead by example…NOT!
No problem Sassy…it’s an amazing struggle you folks are on and I feel for you. I feel lucky in a way in that my party may have righted its own ship, due to the tenacity of McCain and — hopefully — an eye to the future.
Take care,
Pat
Maybe we are living in the fable:
The Tortoise and The Hare.
Okay, so yesterday, we saw the wounded soldiers go under the bus. Today,it’s Christmas and birthday presents. How much more of this do we need to take?
Would the Republicans PLEASE give me some hope and start to release some of their anti-Obama ammo?
Another elitist line.
Ok this is where I disagree. Like the Clintons the obamas are great parents if questionable people. All of those things are wonderful, they still give the presents just not as mom and dad. First off they are teaching them how to make choices. with Bed Making,tells them at least make and effort *I work far to many young adults that dont understand that* Allowing them to set their own alarm clock teaches them about time managment and independence. Picking there clothing teach them how to make decisions, and the lack of gifts, well most americans are extremly meterialistic. And while my parents gave me and my brother presents there was also limits on the cost of the gift and how many. You got one big gift that you really wanted, the rest were undwear and socks. I’ve never loathed michelle, honestly I haven’t been proud of my country in a while and still am not. Although I must say that PUMA is a very uplighting conformation it means that for the first time in a really long time common sense is making come back.
I wish common sense would make a come back in the MSM. They are like a carnival sideshow.
PEOPLE’s piece is just another ‘distraction”.
Who really gives us shit? They are just awesome, let’s move on. Too late for me to raise my 4 daughters in the light and by their wonderous example.
How about a PEOPLE piece on the average family living in the Senator’s district?
The Obamas are not the only ones that do not give presents, especially at Christmas.
I know some very conservative Christians that do not give presents at Christmas because they believe that it commercializes the birthday of Jesus Christ.
They just may actually believe that giving of material presents just indoctrinates children to be over-consumers. That special occasions like birthdays and Christmas are more than buying material things, that these events should not be commercialized.
Of course, I would find it very hard to put such beliefs in practice.
You do not have to give commercialized presents to give presents. I am sure these girls have toys… they have a multimillion dollar home!!
They could give hand made or modest gifts of affection. Christmas and Birthdays are usually reserved as the time to buy something special… instead of just any old time. I tell my kids that we don’t buy toys until birthday and christmas, this keeps them from thinking we can consume all the time. Also, I have my kids donate their old toys to charities after these days and we participate in filling other children’s wishes at christmas plus clothes and shoes. We give cans to food drives and coats to coat drives. After all this giving I think my kids deserve presents that I would have loved to have as a kid.
There were some fairly ascetic Überdaddies in Hitler’s inner circle.
We don’t need another control freak.
This has been today’s argumentum ad Hitlerum.
What Turkeys. SusanUnPC, how odd indeed. several months back I was responding to a certain BO “toenailer” using the frame of the Ghost of Christmas past present and future, when it came to BO…
Now it’s confirmed that BO IS SCROOGE ??? OK, now I am official freaked out.
What turkeys…NOT even on their birthdays???? OK now what am I missing?
TGIF.
Some of you might not believe on this, but I’m starting to believe Obama resemble more and more the Anticrist… this might get deleted, but that’s just my opinion…
If he picks Ray Mabus as VP I will be more than a little nervous!
Don’t look up the prophecies of St. Malachy….you won’t be able to sleep….
hope floats:
isn’t this a pro hillary website? you’re making snide comments about chelsea? may i ask who you voted for in 2004, i suspect it wasn’t kerry…..
I AM SICK WITH PEOPLE WHO CONTINUE TO DEFEND OBAMA CHRISTIANITY AND JUDGEMENT.IT IS A BIG LYE TO TELL AMERICANS HE DID’T KNOW J.WRIGHT WAS PREACHING HATE AND DIVISION IN A CHURCH HE OBAMA CHOOSED TO STAY IN FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.ONLY STUPID,INTELLECTUALLY BLIND PEOPLE ARE BYEING INTO THAT.FOR ME,BEING CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM IS NOT YET THE PROBLEM;THE BIG QUESTION IS WHY IS OBAMA NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO HE REALLY IS.
From obama’s site, “Holiday gift idea: a President you can believe in”
http://tinyurl.com/57nzlx
Obama and the bots believe that HE is the gift, no other gift is necessary.
We just keep finding more and more folks under the Obama Bus! And, to think, dear Santa was perhaps one of the first.
Well, you can add this to the long list of reasons to call off the coronation in Denver.
I always wndered who was in the red suit but being it’s crowded down here under this bus I never saw the facial hair…
Glad I know it is Santa I will relax
LOL. You’re under here, too?
Muslims don’t practice Christmas.
Ehemmm….Why would they celebrate the birth of an obscure Jewish prophet ?
DUH….or Doooh!…..in Homerspeak
So, let me get this straight the Obama’s can be friends with all kinds of wacky people, but they do not give there children gifts because he needs to show them boundaries, somethings wrong with this picture.
Not wanting to punish them with a baby…doll
The self appointed Messiah will expect gifts from everyone on his birthday.
* Speeches in stadiums filled with mesmerized, adoring audiences - Check
* An uninspiring background before meteoric rise - Check
* Creates his own new symbols of power - Check
* Associates with racists, hatemongers and violent radicals - Check
* A propaganda machine willing to show him only in the best possible light - Check
* Uses, “glorious leader” style Agitprop posters common in totalitarian nations - Check (see German campaign poster for example)
* Wants Secret Police force - Check
* Somebody powerful people think they can control - Check
* Often dismissed as a light-weight by his opponents - Check
* Seeks to replace God with the State - Check
* People adopting his name as their own - Check
* Inspires adoration art - Check
* Appropriates symbols of past German glory - Check
* Never plans on giving up power - Check (Obama to be president for the next “eight to 10 years”)
* A narcissistic megalomaniac - Check
* Brazenly Takes credit for other people’s accomplishments - Check
* Wants to build “youth” movement through State service - Check
* Acts as if in power before he is - Check
* Some followers believe him to be divine - Check
* Worshiped and aided greatly by the media - Check
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” — Santayana
I do believe that byteshredder nailed it.
At lunchtime I heard on the radio that The One Himself Has Waited For is stuttering and stammering his way through a press conference with Monsieur Le President Sarkozy.
You said it perfectly - check
Either they are Jehovah Witnessess or Muslim.
can we not check him out and off on his way to Africa
My guess would be that they give presents for Kwanzaa instead.
How does anyone think this man can save the world when he does not understand the simple symbols of Joy in our own culture?
Maybe if he could do one constructive thing in this country, I would consider him. But he has not. He’s done nothing positive for anyone other than IBAMA in his entire life.
And the negatives keep piling up.
I have a feeling that joy is an unknown emotion in that household.
Just what America needs:
Head Games You Can Believe In.
Things like this are read meat, but you’re falling for a distraction. There’s a real issue here that MSM and even most Nobama people missed: his own role on Afghanistan. Afghanistan’s getting worse, as we know. But what most people don’t know is that Obama is at least partially responsible for that.
Afghanistan is a NATO war - the US activated the NATO alliance after 2001. However, aside from the UK, most NATO countries, like Germany, have very few troops there, like 1000-2000. Obama is head of the Senate foreign relations committee that covers NATO and is tasked with holding hearings on Afghanistan, but since he was elected he’s never held one. So the deterioration of Afghanistan is partially his fault.
His job in Germany and today, France, not as a political candidate, but as a Senator and an American, was to tell them that if they, and all of the other NATO countries, don’t send a lot more troops, that they are violating the terms of the NATO treaty and should never expect any help from the US if their country is ever attacked.
Did he do that? Naw… he just held a campaign rally and tried to pretend he was Kennedy - a president who was willing to put American lives on the line to protect the freedom of Berliners. But he’s not willing to ask for more NATO troops to protect Afghanistanis or willing to stay in Iraq a little longer to ensure stability. (Remember despite all of the 16-months talk, American troops will start withdrawing immediately when he takes office, so within 8 months, i.e. August, 50% of troops will be gone.)
Obama doesn’t realize that Kennedy isn’t famous because he made a speech, but because he actually went toe to toe with the enemies of America again and again.
And, Obama doesn’t see the big picture. The US and Europe are relatively safe, and its easy to say that the rest of the world is not our problem. But the “next world war” is being fought in the “frontier” countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, etc, and the citizens there don’t stand a chance without our help. The great moral question of the 21st century is whether we will build a wall around developed countries and just let the others go to hell, or whether we will put US and EU lives on the line to help make the rest of the world a better place too.
Great Points All Around, Tristan! I hope you’ll repost this all over the place! This is hard hitting.
So I imagine you guys have already seen the national enquirer story on Edwards sneaking out to see his mistress http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_child_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193
Seems really far fetched and comes from a sometimes sketchy source, but the detail that went into writing this article is quite extensive. I think there might be some truth to this.
Fox Just interviewed the security guard who confirmed the story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391426,00.html
Poor Elizabeth
The story got attention from mainstream press.
I suspect it’s not that far out.
I think we may be seeing the end of Edwards.
No!!
Edwards must be on the ballot in Denver!
Among people who didn’t vote for Obama or Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, Edwards won the popular vote!
This nomination was stolen.
Because of rampant sexism and racism, a white male hasn’t won the Democratic nomination for president in nearly 4 years!!
We will not be silenced!
yeah……..go cry elsewhere. LOL*
but……cute try
Why wouldn’t he be on the ballot? Maybe BOBO doesn’t want the competition?
Because he didn’t win a single state?
Good golly………
Edwards is irrelevant.
Edwards won delegates. They should a have a chance to vote at the convention.
I agree.
That is seriously offensive. I guarantee you would think twice before mocking the civil rights movement, but you think it’s ok to joke about a fraudulent nomination process, sexism and racism. I’m glad to have nothing to do with the Democratic party these days.
I must say this thread has drawn the line.
I simply don’t understand any of the posters here who think that bringing gifts from Santa is a sign of evil intent or Muslim religion or whatever.
I’ve been sensing for awhile now that I don’t really belong on this site.
But this thread brought the issue up to the surface.
Perhaps it’s true. This has turned into a site for nutcases.
I think it’s time to state, publicly, that’s not me, that’s not what I’m interested in, and I’m a bit tired of coasting over the radical right postings here.
So, No Quarter, please hear me. It’s time to move forward and take a stand.
You want just the radical voices here?
OK.
But I simply think that letting Santa bring the gifts being interpreted as posters here have done is ridiculous.
I will not support stupidity.
Remind us again what your husband does for a living, AnninCA. Got any cookie recipes to share? I remember when you used to speak so knowledgeably about polls. Nice to see you out of your pod.
Wow. You folks at NQ just get crazier by the day.
Bless you!
Stop the hate!
Not AnninCa.
And one has to wonder…are there others here who fit in a category with her?
People who supported Hillary and have legitimate concerns about the Dems’ nominating process, treatment of Hillary by the media, and Obama as a candidate?
People who, perhaps, are planning on voting for McCain, but might be open to honest discussion with an Obama supporter who is able to recognize that he is a politician and a human, with flaws inherent in both?
I can hope, can’t I (or is that word verbotten here)?
Honest discussion with the BOBOweenies stopped the day you all went insane over those imagined New Hampshire tears.
Yeah. So I’m thinking maybe you’re not in the category of which I spoke.
I follow by example. You BOBOweenies set the example. Live with it and quit your whining.
It isn’t possible when the first post of the day from bo’s supporters is filthy language and insults. I don’t have discourse with people who open a discussion with calling me filthy names.
Not interested in Obama’s flaws or humanity. There is a reason why people get experience before they apply for a job, too. Without that, he’s just some fucked up human being running on hope. He can keep hoping, too. I’m not impressed.
I frankly think we’ve hit a crossing point, and I agree.
It’s up to NQ to set the tone.
I’ll check in, but if it continues to be about birth certificates, skewed stories about Christmas gifts, etc., then I’m probably going to move on.
I just am not interested in joining the tin-foil crowd.\
I think there’s a huge reason why Obama isn’t right for America, but it’s not about silly stuff.
I think the “He’s not American, where’s his birth certificate” meme is nutty. I liked the posters who were in that group until they got hung up on that crap.
OK…….so they turned out to be like some kind of strange on-line nuts.
I’d suggest to NQ that you’re beyond that type.
Whatever, I’m not a blog-owner, so what do I know about running one.
I can only say to NQ, I’m honestly on the edge of leaving.
I will not participate in a tin-foil site.
I really won’t go there.
Larry’s remarks early on that he wasn’t a Republican comforted me.
I will leave if this becomes a site for nutcases who think Obama is Muslim or other silly crap.
Maybe that’s OK.
Maybe Larry and Susan wish to attract the posters who think this way.
I know I contributed to this site. Maybe the nutcases contribute even more.
But I know this. I’m not interested in a blog that is this weird.
Santa Claus is Santa Claus. A lot of people let gifts be from Santa.
It’s not about religion.
And those who have turned this into a “dire” warning about Obama….
You turn me off.
Totally turn me off.
I would be great if political contests were restricted to issues. The Obama campaign chose early on to make it about something else. However having said that, place of birth is constitutionally relevant to this election. There are some questions that BOBO could clear up in a micro second if he wished too. So far he hasn’t. As to his kids birthday presents? BOBO made his kids part if his campaign when he paraded them out on the stage. The present thing is nothing more than information that helps to give us a better picture of BOBOwaffles. Otherwise we are left to make decisions based on the image he is so carefully crafting. I don’t think you’re the type that wants to be limited to the image the candidate presents. It’s very one dimensional. These stories aren’t tin foil storyies. There just fluff to take up the slow summer months. The real debate starts after the convention. You would be missed here if your aren’t part of it.
Wildchild
You typed an entire paragraph and basically said the stories on NQ are fluff stories or better yet LIES.
It seems as though the point Annin was making is the stories here should stick to FACT and not FICTION.
I agree that NQ should stick to fact. It is a fact that BOBO doesn’t give his girls presents at Christmas or birthdays. That’s an admission of the one himself. What makes this story fluff is that it, as I said in the paragraph, does nothing more than fill in the picture of BOBO and MOMOwaffles. They’re nice to know things but aren’t goin to effect my life or the election much. Issues on the other hand, would be things like BOBO voting for Bush’s telecom immunity or expanding Bush’s faith program giveaways or whether or not BOBO is a natural born citizen. NQ brings us the issues as it should and it brings us the fluff as it should. To the best of my knowledges NQ hasn’t brought us lies yet. LOL though a few hundred BOBOweenies would rabidly protest otherwise.
But you can’t leave, all the plants will die!
I know I can make you laugh.
my advice is to stay away from the tin-foil hat threads. I really don’t care if he’s muslim, hindu or scientoligist, he’s unqualified.
Annin, although you think this is about fluff, I think this does fit the pattern we know about the Ibama’s.
This gifting nonsense started out as a fluff piece in People Mag (I thought Ibama was not going to use his Children in props and interviews anymore)
But, the jist may be that on the one hand, the Ibama’s want us to know how
elitist, high and mighty, controlling,disciplined they are with the kids, by not gifting on Christmas and birthdays, to “teach them limits”.And yet, they still manage to spend lavishly on Christmas presents from Santa and hundreds of dollars on birthday parties. The kids are not exactly left wanting, so where are these “limits”.
It is another example of Ibama wanting to be on both sides of an issue. It is not just a political strategy. Apparently flip flopping, and being on both sides of the fence is a way of life for Ibama.
Not a good character trait for leadership nor for POTUS.
Oh yeah, what was that called about Chelsea? pimping them out.
You may think this is an unimportant story, but judging by the pod peoples reaction, it isn’t They totally come out in force on a story that upsets them.
Annin we outed you yesterday. go away.
Let me say this …. AnninCa is a HUGE HRC supporter. That doesn’t mean she has to be on board with some of the unsavory shit. OK? Let’s not turn this into HuffandPuff where unless everyone thinks about Oblowme exactly like YOU do, that person is some how a “bad” person … we aren’t them. Disagreement and discourse are permitted!
Thanks for standing up for AnninCa.
It would be nice if we didn’t fall into the us vs. them mentality that makes Obama supporters, like the Bushies before them, seemed so goddamned brutish and ugly.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons to reject Obama.
Our problem is that the best remaining candidates, people unafraid to tell us the truth, like Kuchinich, Nader, and perhaps now even Bob Barr, ( I don’t know much about McKinney) have been utterly and completely marginalized.
beebop -
What is there to support AnninCA for? Getting some anti-depressants?
Wanting to leave? So leave already! Just don’t whine.
If you don’t like one thread - try another.
Who appointed AnninCA as the Arbiter of Articles?
AnninCA can go to the movies and talk to the screen when these threads become just toooooo much.
AnninCA and I used to post on another political site for a few years. Long before Obama was a household name and on other topics as well.
She caught hell over there at a mostly Dem board because she revealed that she voted a straight Dem ticket. She stuck up for the Clintons, Dem values, and debated real Republicans over vast numbers of political, social, immigration, crime and punishment, current events, and even fluff articles.
I recognized her writing style here at NQ and said hi…and referenced a bully poster/topic over there because my nic wouldn’t be memorable.
She isn’t duplicitous poster or a troll and is only sharing her views. In those years, she has always drawn a line in the sand when she thought something went too far.
That is her right and it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a sense of humor or that she is a stick in the mud.
On one of those boards she thought my neutral stance was in fact on the other side of her on a topic. And she took humorous shots at me repeatedly for a few months. I still respected her as a poster and her humor so we could respectfully trade posts on that topic.
Since a major complaint about Obama is that he stands for nothing.
Personally, I feel it is honorable that AnninCA is standing up for something she believes in. I guarantee she isn’t an Obama troll though.
I hope you stay…AnninCA.
If not….catch you at the other place.
There are posts that totally turn me off as well and honestly this is one of them.
Having said that, oblowme gives these interviews and brings this into the public dialogue. Frankly, anything that keeps him from entering the personal quarters at the White House is fine by me. Do I personally like that it has come to this? Hell no. But my candidate and the former President of the United States were impaled on the phony shaft of racism and so I say whatever works b r i n g i t o n!
I agree, it’s time to take off the gloves and tear the kitchen sink off the wall. I got tired of playing nice in February. Same with many people. This has been building into all kinda ugly, and Barack and Michelle and Rev. Wright and JJ Jr. and all the rest got it coming to them.
“oblowme gives these interviews and brings this into the public dialogue.”
That really is one of the major points to this story. The Ibamas are so narcissistic, they are compelled to keep talking about themselves.
Ibama said he would not allow interviews or let his kids to be used as props, and that lasted no more than a few days.
These people are in love with themselves. Not even each other. They don’t love the US or anything but themselves.
Oh shut up — AnninCA
It is time to have fun and make fun of the Precious.
At this point to save America from Obama — anything goes — including making fun of the arrogant, self centered Obamas.
I concur. See my comment above.
I have to say that sometimes the commentary is just plain entertaining and down right funny…..We are responding to a People story….mkay?
I have thoroughly enjoyed myself….Sometimes it’s good to lighten up a litlle…. imho….
*** BTW Posters at NQ have spanked me on occasion when I have been especially obnoxious or hey! just for giggles….I try not to take it too personally…..I’ve even been accused of being an Obamabrat….HA! ***
I’ve even been accused of being.
Therefore I am …guilty as charged.
Funny that….But oh well ( sigh )…oh brother
AnninCa-
Are you threatening to leave or promising to leave? It really isn’t all about you.
Try touchyfeelywhiney.com
No wonder the oldest girl thought that it was the best birthday she had ever had during that July 4th event they had in where? SD, Idaho?
Now, you are pathetic. You made this comment based on the lies told in this on this thread. The Obama’s celebrate Christmas as well as give the girls birthday parties. Facts always seem to escape people on NQ.
You guys will fall for anything posted here and take it as the gospel
It is not based on anything from NQ. It is from the Puff Piece People Mag wrote about Ibama.
The gaza guys are at it again!
How much does Axlerod pay you creeps?
Who knows how much they get paid in Gaza….I’ll bet it doesn’t reflect the Min. wage increase…..Praise Allah and pass the hummus…lol
What about the annual lighting of the Christmas tree, at the White House? I guess all of us girls will have to cover up, and by god, not wear green, as we greet the Obamas with assalamu alaikum !
Maybe he’ll issue an edict to all of his staff forbidding them from giving or receiving birthday and Christmas presents. If elected, maybe he’ll dictate a similar nation-wide prohibition. Wait…in light of his most recent presumptious bs, it’s more likely that he’ll demand that all birthday and Christmas presents are his, and must go to him directly…
I really miss Hillary
When I read that article, I just thought, Oh, ferchrisesakes, they’re so fucking SANCTIMONIOUS, they make me sick. Poor people who can’t afford to get their kids christmas presents will not appreciate reading that; it’s another ARUGULA moment.
This comment nails it IMO. Obama is extremely sanctimonious. He is running for Lecturer in Chief. I think it ties in to his narcissistic personality disorder. He proclaims that a tradition that most of us “little people” cling to is unbecoming, decadent. It’s in line with his comment that we keep the temperature in our homes too comfortable, etc.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. the whole “Santa gives the presents” is also very disingenuous and condescending, not so much to his daughters as it is to the people he’s trying to impress by blabbing about it in People Mag.
Obama spent his childhood in Indonesia, from age 6 to 10 I think. Perhaps that is how they do things in Indonesia, you learn customs at that age.
Hank, That shows him to be waaay to stupid to be president if he doesn’t know where he is NOW!
Making presents don’t cost much.
I think Stupid wants to punish Americans too. He’ll keep your money for you so you don’t screw up!
Geez, I know the solution to Stupid’s defeat: Get his kids to read THIS! He’ll have so much anarchy at home, he’ll need a shrink. He already needs something.
Well isn’t that just the icing on the cake..Wake up America,you all should have realizide Obama is a muslim when he quoted the muslim prayer (There is no god but allah) in PERFECT arabic! Not that i care if he’s muslim it just bothers me why he lies he’s not,thats’ worrisome! Vote Mcain 08!!
hell i want a president who represents america and not kenya or anything else like that. i am just sick of this sorry axx and his bull. why in the heck are these silly americans buying this phony crap?
The official BOBOcamp song
Oh, they built the ship Titanic to sail the ocean blue,
And they thought they had a ship that the water would never leak through,
But the Lord’s almighty hand said this ship would never land
Oh it was sad when the great ship went down!
COME ON!! Sing with me!
Chorus:
Oh, it was sad, it was sad; it was sad, it was sad;
It was sad when the great ship went down, to the bottom of the …
Husbands and wives, little children lost their lives,
It was sad when that great ship went down.
Of course they don’t give presents at Christmas time, Christmas is a “WHITE PEOPLE’S HOLIDAY!” White devils!
Aaaaaand….SANTY CLAUSE IS A PATHETIC REMNANT OF A DYING EUROCENTRIC EVIL CULTURE THAT PROMOTES CAPITALISM!…..who must be eliminated…..
If Obama gets elected, there WILL BE NO CHRISTMAS TREE IN THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN!he will say i saved a tree…
Barack Obama is an un-American piece of shit.
I agree with the description of 0bama being sanctimonious. And I guess that was the premise of this article, to poke fun at his sanctimony. The problem with humor is that everything is not funny to everybody.
Personally, I didn’t understand the point of this article. But then nothing about 0bama is funny to me at this point. I’m so angry I don’t even want to poke fun at him.
IMO, the Birth Certificate story has legs simply because 0bama refuses to simply produce it. I only started to care about it because of his refusal. There are a lot of things like that with 0bama: his medical records, his college transcripts, his grandmother. There comes a point when even a clear-thinking person should be scratching their head about such deliberate evasion. So I don’t think it’s fair to call people nutcases for questioning him. 0bama is responsible for some of this. And if my memory serves me correctly, the Clintons had to put up with this and more and still do.
Where I do agree is that there are some comments that betray attitudes and prejudices that I don’t want to be associated with. Upthread someone referred to Michelle’s ‘ugly ass.’ I take issue with that because I personally don’t like to use that word casually. It perpetuates the objectification of women which ultimately was part of what killed Hillary’s candidacy. There’s way too much evaluation of women in public life solely on the way they physically look and it’s destroying all of our humanity. I cringe when people have made fun of Cindy McCain who had a stroke, by the way, which can seriously effect your physical appearance. And nothing made me sadder when poor Chelsea Clinton was picked on as a child, especially.
It’s wrong.
Often people in their zeal to post and appear relevant type anything that comes to mind. And everybody, as the saying goes, is a comedian…. NOT!
Still, I believe in free speech. I’ve been at sites that changed and when they no longer fit my tastes, I moved on. Unannounced!
One of things that bugs me about 0bama is his propensity to lecture people at the drop of a hat. I always try to curb that tendency in myself. This is not to say that criticism is a bad thing. It’s just to point out that often, and this is true on the anonyomous environment of the Internet, people really couldn’t give a flying fuck.
I think No Quarter is doing a balanced job. JMO! There are way more articles that are informative than not. And we all have the freedom to pass on the ones that don’t suit our fancy.
Taking a break is a good thing. Especially from posting. When I find myself lint-picking, I always know it’s probably better to keep my mouth shut. Talking is really more of a personal need. People simply don’t hang on our every word even if we do.
Dr. Deborah Tannen calls it “Lecturing Behavior”
You Just Don’t Understand: Women and Men in Conversation
http://www.amazon.com/You-Just-Dont-Understand-Conversation/dp/0345372050
- which explains this post.