Camp Obama: Eager to “Empower You”
By Ani on July 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Current Affairs
This is a letter sent to a supporter of the Obama Campaign:
Dear ___________,
You have an opportunity to play a major role in this nationwide movement for change.
Dedicated volunteers like you have brought us this far. But to execute our strategy for the general election, we need supporters to step into one of the most important roles of our campaign.
If you’re ready to take the next step, you are invited to attend a two-day Camp Obama training session near you.
Learn more about this special opportunity and apply to attend Camp Obama right now:
Camp Obama trainings offer a unique, in-depth look at the strategies and techniques that have driven this campaign.
These two-day sessions, to be held August 15th - 16th, are led by experienced Obama campaign staffers and other professional organizers who are eager to empower dedicated supporters like you.
After completing a camp session, attendees will be asked to fill essential volunteer positions in battleground states — these are demanding roles, but they are a vital part of our election strategy.
Supporters with experience in community organizing or political campaigns are strongly encouraged to apply. But the only requirement is that you support Barack and be ready to turn your enthusiasm and energy into action.
Here are some of the skills you’ll learn at Camp Obama:
• Tactics that will help you creatively and effectively organize voters
• Tips to increase the visibility of the campaign in your area
• Keys to mobilizing other volunteers to join our movementApply now for a Camp Obama training near you:
We’re excited to invite our most dedicated supporters to get involved with the campaign in this crucial role.
Thank you for everything you’re doing to build this movement,
Obama for America
He wants to empower you to use the strategies that have driven this campaign? Like what, for instance?
Bullying at the caucuses? Those kinds of tactics? Having someone with an “Obama for America” sign sitting at a table inside an Indiana polling location to help voters with any “confusion” or “questions.”
Camp Obama training? Anything like EST training? The Forum? The Secret? Do they let you go to the bathroom? Forgive the snark, but this is beyond New Age.
I cannot profess to understand what ‘techniques’ will be taught at “Camp Obama” but the verbiage of these “two day sessions” sounds like indoctrination. It smacks of all day intensive self-help workshops. Are they practicing the Vulcan mind meld? Acceptance into the Borg Collective?
And let’s not forget the Kids for Obama page…
I seem to remember Sens. McCaskill and Casey saying their kids were ’screaming’ at them to vote for Senator Obama. We are looking to elect the President of the United States, not to get a shiny new toy. I, typically do not consult kids or teenagers, whose brains are not fully formed yet, when making important political decisions that will affect my family and my country’s future.
I have never seen any campaign employ these methods and if some of the paid bloggers for Senator Obama are indicative of those versed in the ‘techniques’ he is talking about, then I am very worried indeed.
The vile rhetoric that has been used repeatedly all over the internet, the verbal attacks leveled at Hillary supporters out in public, the “techniques” of Obama supporters walking around with camera phones threatening to take pictures of Hillary supporters – this all strikes me as a form of voter intimidation.
The rock star mindset of this campaign: the huge rallies, the ‘uplifting’ non-specific, hopey/changey pablum filled speeches designed to enflame without posing solutions, all strike me as more of the mass marketing of Obama. As I have stated previously, there is a danger when one is more than involved, but enthralled.
I fear this two-day training camp is teaching a pitch that sells a symbol without substance.
Much like the man himself.
What say you?
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(Special thanks to pcmck)






















more cult tactics on Obama’s part. his campaign is frightening in its lack of substance. good for the young ones I suppose.
It’s more caucus training.
Where do you give your shirt size?
At New Party HQ….of course…
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SAY
HUH?
(rattling my head)
CAMP WHAT?
NO NO NO DON’T TELL ME
(THIS day has given me the worst headache)
bbl
I believe there’s a man Gene Sharp who is in Obama’s campaign and he does special training on how to participate in non violent dissent in places like Serbia and Burma and has written books on this technique and I think teaches at the Einstein University. So it is training that I don’t think I’d want my kid to go to. Creepy.
Fox News just confirmed that Obama went to work out at the gym at the Ritz Calton instead of visiting the troops. They said he knew in advance that he could go without all of the hoopla. He chose to workout instead.
Lucky for him he still has all of his limbs.
More material for Republican attack ads. He’s gonna be sorry.
I would not bet on it. The media keeps buying his fairy tales. Every time I think they are starting to wake up I read something like this from the LA Times:
Time remains for Obama to unify the party and find ways to win over skeptical voters. His campaign released ads last month that emphasize the parts of Obama’s life story that a typical voter might find appealing. Obama, for example, was raised by a single mother and grandparents who lacked substantial means.
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-challenges25-2008jul25,0,230990.story?page=1
Obama’s mother was not single all the time. (She only left his stepfather because he became too “Americanized”.) And how in God’s name did his grandparents lack substantial means when his grandmother was a vice president of the largest bank in Hawaii?
I just emailed the poor, bamboozled sap who wrote this article to try to set him straight. I urge the rest of you to do the same. Maybe if enough of us call the media on this they will start reprimanding Barack for this lie. One can only hope…..
Is there a utube link to this report by Fox news?
Tactics???
OK Now I want to go to the O’EST affair and see if my Kung Fu is stronger than BO’s.
I want to discorporate.
HA!!
(adaptation of classic Punk Rock song, California Uber Alles)
I am Senator Barry O
My aura smiles
And always glows
Soon I will be pres-i-dent
Dubya power will soon go away
I will be Fuhrer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will eat arugula in school
Your kids will eat arugula in school!
Camp Obama Uber Alles
Uber Alles Camp Obama
Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will slave for the Chi-ca-go mob
Or you’re going to lose your job
Close your eyes, can’t happen here
Big O on white horse is near
The yuppies won’t come back you say
Hail Obama or you will pay
Hail Obama or you will pay!
Camp Obama Uber Alles
Uber Alles Camp Obama
Now it is 2008
Knock knock at your front gate
It’s the “Civilian Domestic Security Force”
Ha ha complain until you are hoarse
Come quitely to the camp
Don’t forget Michelle wants your Tiffany lamp,
Don’t you worry, it’s only a shower
For your clothes here’s a pretty flower
Dine on organic color-balanced grass
Roll call vote in Denver my ass
You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President O
When you mess with President O!
Here is historical footage of Jello Biafra singing the original lyrics about Jerry Brown. Some of his facial gestures remind me of O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K217GdcrWvc
Best cover, very funny, Schwarzenegger instead of Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXZ9gGy3MnY
And here is Spongebob performing the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poi8DDyoQz0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poi8DDyoQz0&feature=related
I loved Dead Kennedys.
I’ve had this song on my mind a lot lately.
Thanks for the adapted lyrics.
He wants to empower you to emPOWER him. It’s POWER we can believe in.
We already know the curriculum for the race-baiting sessions. And they’ll probably dust off the 4-page race-baiting memo they used in SC to falsely accuse the Clintons of racism.
Obama/Wright08
Sounds a lot like the Nazi youth camps to me. Looks like history really does repeat itself. BTW, one does not surround oneself with such an unsavory assortment of radicals who have advanced ones carreer for the past twenty years and NOT HAVE AN AGENDA. There is too much smoke in that wood pile not to be fire.
I hope someone has the guts to sneak a recording devise into the Brown Shirts School. The logo looks militaristic.
It has been my experience that it is much easier to identify enemy troops when they wear uniforms. Pass out the shirts, Barry. I don’t want to kick the wrong ass.
These damn kids following him all need a good spanking.
See, I think this thing is all Dr. Spock’s fault. That asshole said that spanking wasn’t effective. It worked on me, and very occasionally on two of my four kids.
If it had been used more frequently with these stupid little shits who follow Barry, we might not have come this way.
Amen to that Zeke.
Yep!
Agree about the militaristic logo. Folks, we may have a larger problem on our hands than just a “rock star” approach to politics. As we Democrats of a certain age used to say, “this scene is starting to freak me out”. Let’s hope (npi) that you’re right in that someone has the courage to infiltrate this latest expression of culthood and come out with the word on these training camps.
Change we can cry over.
This just gets more and more bizarre. Only on the heels of the disaster Bush could this happen - a completely inexperienced, duplicitous, snake-charming, “blank screen” gets pushed through.
It’s still bewildering that the Democrats would push this totally inappropriate person onto the ballot. It looks like a takeover to me, a hostile takeover. I don’t trust any of those Democrats who corrupted the primaries and are pushing this guy forward.
We are on a slow slide headed for the historical dustbin. This has been going on for a very long time. If BushCo hadn’t stolen the election from Gore in 2000 I doubt we would be in this state of decline and Hillary would be on her way into the WH.
That the masses are fawning over Obama just reflects how desperate we have become over the past eight years of BushCo. People need to get some perspective on this and study the historical background leading up to this coup. We thought we’d seen it all with Bush because of his shredding of the Constitution, but wait until the New Age Messiah gets into office. Get ready for extensive brainwashing and government surveillance that is going to threaten our very lives. Imagine the kinds of kids running ragged through the streets, the same kind that went apeshit at the caucuses. They’ll be eating us alive. And I don’t think they are like the McGovern youth either; they are much more prone to violence as a result of over-indulgence via media, parents, schools etc. This generation coming up is one of entitlement, look at their leader? Isn’t he one of entitlement and ego gone awry? We are really in for it.
I’m beginning to think the Democrats helped Bush steal the election in 2000. Gore didn’t fight against it anyway. He says he thought there would be a revolution if he questioned Gore v. Bush! Well what does he think this is? And he ENDORSED Obama. My esteem of him has dropped into the basement.
Notice the Democrats did not impeach Bush so they could rein in the expanded Executive powers. The want to grab those powers for themselves and not to any good purpose.
Exactly!!
and Obama officially became the Establishment’s candidate last summer when he became the ONLY DEM to declare Bush and Cheney HAD NOT committed impeachable offenses!
NObama!!
Gore did begin to fight and he was “counseled” by his party to stop “for the good of the country” and you can see where that got us.
When Third party candidate Perot was running for president he swore the safety of his family had been threatened; however, this is the guy who hired an army of mercenaries to get his employees out of Iran during the hostage crisis and succeeded.
There are a lot of us who don’t have direct memories of the assassinations that took place in the 1960s and 1970s but babyboomers have a right to be cynical about politics and politicians because we have continued to move further away from the FDR, JFK, MLK AND RFK ideology with every election. The one lone stop in this steady march was when Bill Clinton, who idolized John Kennedy, interfered for 8 years. And now Senator Hillary Clinton, another JFK admirer, is perceived as such an unstopable threat that her own party tipped their hand by stealing her votes for Obama. Nothing different here; same as 2000 and 2004 except Obama’s narcissism had caused him to be quite open about his dirty political tricks. Obama camps. How HJ.
this is the guy who hired an army of mercenaries to get his employees out of Iran during the hostage crisis and succeeded.
He got the Job Done.
Executive Power & the Bush Administration hearing in the House today is really worth watching.
About that impeachment. Seems they’ve resurrected the Kucinich motion on that. Got an email to support it today. Is Dennis K. really that stupid or what? The last time his supporters got all worked up, when he promised impeachment was on the way, instead he was called into the “Judicial Committee” for a special private meeting - about which he said little except that he wasn’t following through then, after all.
Now his supporters are recirculating email petition link to reactivate that dead horse. PLEASE DO NOT SIGN ON.It is evident that Nasty Pelosi is behind this - just as she was behind blocking impeachment earlier on. But NOW they can use that to tie the negative attention to McCaine- so suddenly the impeachment we hoped for 2 yrs ago is a bright timely idea - when GW has only a few months left in office!
The economy is tanking, banks are falling, gas is going through the roof, people are being thrown out of their homes, hyperinflation is forecast - while the messiah is shooting photo ops and hoops overseas and the xxxxing do nothing Dems in congress want to get focused on impeachment.
Beyond outrageous!!!
I dont trust the Dems any further than I could throw them all at once.
They arent doing anything but letting things slide, further and further downhill. The bastards.
Yeah Bush and Rove and all of em got it on a roll, but the Dems arent doing anything to put it back together again are they?
Im completely bamboozled by Gore’s actions. Could not figure out why he just passively let it go then, but kind of wondered if maybe he was a bigger pansy ass that I had thought. Now I think it was the Dem party calling the shots and he had to take a vacation. Notice he took a really loonnnng vacation…….
Maybe you are right about the Dem party wanting things to slide so far into the toilet with Bush and co. stealing our constitutional rights, that theyd stay that way, we’d all get used to it and just hanker for more being crammed down our throats.
Puhleeze,
What these candy ass little shits know about violence you could put on the pointy end of a pin. If ever a group wanted its ass kicked its them.
Trust me, these asshats are not a viable threat as far as violence goes. There are nearly three generations of combat veterans waking our streets. If you think for a moment that there will be an outbreak of violence that will last, you’re mistaken. I’m not hoping for it but I am not afraid at all. I mean it. Screw ‘em.
Besides, didn’t Barry leave his gun in Philly?
This is an enigma to me as well. I can’t begin to imagine how the Democratic Party allowed this to happen. And how can they allow this circus to continue?
Because they (Democrats) were victimized by the Republicans during the last eight years, or they felt so. Now they have decided to fight fire with fire. Instead of them standing for integrity and honesty in elections, they have taken on their perceived dictators’ traits. So they have basically sold out their beliefs and have become dictators themselves. All very convoluted stuff.
Convergence theory.
We become our enemies.
The Dem Party couldn’t resist an Empty Suit cash cow.
Or do they really wish to lose? I go back and forth on this question.
Me too. I always felt the Democrats seemed like they were shadow boxing rather than fighting an ideological foe.
No, I think “they” know or feel certain that they can steal the election. Control electronic voting?
I think they can. “They” now control the MSM. Voter control training camps….graduates coming to a town near you.
When a nation has endured a period of such upheaval as that brought us by Bush, then that’s exactly when it’s ripest for the man on the white horse.
I agree that troubled times bring out false messiahs and that Bush isn’t going on anyone’s top ten presidents list but the world’s a lot bigger cesspit than any single politician’s abilities or disabilities could ever contain.
Simplifying blame for problems leads only to more and greater problems. Barry is a striking example of this type of result.
To my recollection, the last time I saw our government apply itself as an entity was when Pres. Reagan was able to suade Dem’s that the defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union superseded any partisanship. The fact that Reagan got some of this done by subterfuge after a truly stupid decision by congress to emasculate the CIA, is only an explanation of what happened, not an excuse for the trickery. Some have said that the lying was worth the price but that road leads to destruction. ‘Ends and means’ is for Marxists.
What must occur for this useless cycle of blame to end is to stop using moral equivalence to excuse immoral actions. No more can we justify immoral decisions on the basis that the opponent has done so first. Our politicians must be held to a degree of honor and accountability that they are forced to become Pillars of Society. They become as the greats who came before because we will accept nothing less.
I believe we have the right to demand of our elected officials at all levels that they be honorable and responsible for their actions.
Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and take your pick were just men too. The difference between then and now is only time. Men and women today can stand up to the test of scrutiny if they are ethical, responsible people who are able to choose the Right thing to do and be responsible for the decision.
This, I believe, is where we must go from here.
I was waiting for the Lady on a white horse myself.
Obama’s campaign is looking more like the Brown Shirts everyday. He sure likes the young–they’re more impressionable.
Sounds like Scientology or EST all over again. Wasn’t there a Jesus Camp that someone made a documentary out of?
This is EXACTLY what it is.
I was just going to comment that this sounds like Scientology training. And yes, Jesus Camp was about those indoctrinating Jesus daycamps the fundies send their kids to.
Speaking of Scientologists, they usually perch their butts outside of the Old Navy in downtown San Francisco to indoctrinate people. The funny thing is that they weren’t out there the other day when I went in–but the Obamatrons were. Obamatrons hocking their own DIY Obama pins and shirts (which were fugly, BTW). And a few days later there were some other Obamatrons there hocking THEIR shirts, which looked like propaganda shirts, red stars and propaganda-like font as well.
Scary!!
Hmmmm…..makes me wistfully nostalgic for Krishnas in the airports…..
…in downtown San Francisco to indoctrinate people.
Man o Mon pick your flavor.
As far as the Jesus Fair goes…
I’m pretty sure they were there to preach Love, since that is one of the names of their God.
Indoctrination in Love is a little different than this zombie crap but it is a good referent.
Where’s that Operation Clambake Guy when we need him ? huh?
Yes, from Bush to this? Haven’t we suffered enough?
I guess his Nazi youth camps will brainwash everyone so they can learn the fine techniques of threatening voters at the polls in November, distributing propaganda leaflets, how to give speeches like Hit-oh I mean Obama.
The training includes a workshop by Bill Ayers on how to trample flags and bomb government buildings with impunity.
I’ve been spoofing on this for a couple of days writing memos to NQ regulars as to what to expect of the New Party for a New America signed by Commissar Donna Brazeal….Unfortunately….spoofin is usually based in part in REALITY….
*** OBAMA IS A FASCIST AND UNFIT FOR ANY ELECTIVE OFFICE ***
Thanks for the post….NQ keep up the fight….
Oblockhead is both a Fascist and a Bolshevik. He’s managed to combine polar philosophies in one personality cult. He can now be right and left at the same time. As he more of himself and his corrupt philosophy, I find myself more and more repulsed.
“as he reveals more of himself.” Mea culpa.
HMMMM….Kinda like how Liberation Theology solved the ATHEIST problem and attracted po’ christians to SOCIALISM….Black Liberation Theology by adding that special RACIAL emphasis qualifies as FASCIST…..
IN AN AGE OF PERFECTED SYNTHESIS….I THINK YOU NAILED IT!
Good Post Ferdberfle….
**** FASCIST IS AS FASCIST DOES ****
His training camps can’t very well openly teach intimidation because, hopefully, there will be a lot of spies and maybe even some investigative-type journalists attending these events. And, of course, there is no honor among thieves, so they have to be careful.
I’ll bet they’ll emphasize the importance of teamwork and obediance (disguised in someway to be palatable to all age groups, especially young people). The training will also inform everybody about the need to tune out and out shout any opposing view points. And if Caroline Kennedy and Claire McCaskill were convinced by their children to support Obama, then they’ll try to turn all the attendees into proselytizers. Maybe that’s part of the reason Obama’s courting the evangelicals since conversions are their stock-in-trade.
Cult tactics probably sums it up.
I am sure there are some good psycologists around who could come up with some pretty good predictions of the course content.
There seems to be a misunderstanding going on regarding Obama and the Evangelicals. I want to try to set this straight a little.
Evangelicals already have a Savior. They are DEDICATED to Him, not Barry. There is no room for Barry in their hearts basically because, whatever you may think about them, they believe in moral behavior and compassion. Since Barry has none of those traits, they will not be deceived by his line.
It is really that simple. Evangelicals aren’t pacifists usually, they will fight. Go to an Evangelical church sometime and notice how many servicemen and their families are there.
I say again… Barry has no power over Evangelicals. None.
Maybe the Evangelicals should speak out against this nitwit then. Someone point out that obama is not Jesus! PERIOD!
They are all of the same mind in this pretty much so they’ll just go and vote. I think most of decided this way a long time ago.
Besides, with the way Christians are treated in the media, it is probably better for them to just quietly vote for McCain rather than alienate the rest of the country.
To win over the evangelicals, Obama will speak their language and hope that is all they hear. He has already done that having himself photographed in front of a shining cross and having his Senate colleagues testify to his deep religious faith. (Rev Wright and Fr Pfleger, his spiritual advisors, lost some of their credibility along the way).
Also, for some reason, the evangelicals seem to have a problem with John McCain. I don’t know what the problem is, but it is clearly evident just casually browsing certain websites. Perhaps, as a group, they just realize how badly used they were by the Bush people. They were certainly instrumental in getting that fraud elected.
I hope you are correct, but Obama, or whoever does his thinking for him, seems to think otherwise.
I am one - and a blogger and investigator of bo. Here’s what I can tell you:
1. obama camp is following to the letter the ODM strategy of odinga in kenya- and I do mean to the letter. This is their internal action plan - and I will soon publish it. All will recognize its every step in bozo’s campaign. One portion is dedicated to “emotionally incited youth” and another to ridiculing the opposition as too old. Sound familiar.
2. As to what they will do at their Camp. Much of it will be innocent enough- ie, just strategic classic grass roots coordination. However, the Camp’s foundation will certainly be to further arouse the emotions of participants into tying their own identity into this “cause.” They will also train, as they did in the primaries to “avoid discussing specific issues with voters” but instead to “focus on sharing how he makes you feel (ie how you were brought to this cause= more emotions!)
3. Finally, they will bring all this emotion to its apex by singuarily making clear that it is absolutely critical that obama MUST WIN. Implied and encouraged, if not stated, will be an overall strategy of WINNING AT ALL COST. In other words, any means justify this end.
This inversion of values should not be surprising, as it was touted at length by a pro-obama journalist just last month, who wrote an extensive essay on why it was OK for him to back down of FISA,etc. because “WINNING IS THE ULTIMATE VALUE.” So that is what the obamanite campers will be taught.
What the Obama camp will also be doing is selecting individuals for more in depth training. The first self selected group will probably have spies — and a show will be put on for the spies.
But the real objective is to select the individuals who really really believe in messiah Obama.
As I’ve mentioned above — I’ve seen how these specially trained Obama thugs work.
From the selected group — team leaders will be selected and given specific training on how to “community organize”. Bamaling is going to need a tremendous funding source — so who know some of these kids may be sent out (Moonie style) to raise money for the cause.
This is how the cults work — but in this case the potential cult members will self select for the Obama training — and techniques can be used to quickly find the most likely ready for the next step.
Obama doesn’t want the old democrat network — he has thrown the people under the bus — he wants the old network MONEY. But he needs compliant “motivated” volunteers.
I have already seen how these Obamabots work — I knew exactly what was happening — but I am the ONLY one who was aware of the massive manipulation going on by teams of Obamabot during the caucus. They are really well trained — and what is amazing my caucus precinct is in a very rural area. There are NEVER well attended — until Obama came along and bought the county dems OFF.
Some of us are immune — but many people are not immune to the sort of psychological warfare that Obama’s gang is using.
Northwest,
Your observations are exttremely astute:
The second sentence I disagree with for the moment. Obama is getting mucho cash from overseas that he will “Launder” through his “spiritual” churches, so called charities like the Woods Fund, and Arab American Action Network, as well as ACORN of course, and other “charities” or “Boards” he and Michelle were/are involved with. So it may be some time down the road before he needs to resort to:
However, given that BO goes through money like dry kindling in a fire pushed by Santa Ana winds, it may not be too long before he resorts to the more despicable tactics you mentiioned.
unityindiversity
Ani and I would both be very very interested in your article and the research you have done. Can you SHOUT out to us and let us know so we don’t miss it?
pcmck
Obamanation is a cult. Always has been, always will be.
I eagerly await the downfall of this horrifying Stalin wannabe. John McCain looks normal compared to Obama.
John McCain looks humble compared to Obama and seems warm and ingratiating.
McCain looks….HUMAN….in comparison….
McCain does look better in comparison to many of us, but not good enough for me to vote for him and the crowd he brings with him. Unless we have a surprise at convention, then I’m simply skipping the top line on the ballot and continue yellow-dogging the lower lines. I CANNOT vote for McCain or any other Republican. NEVER.
A blank space is an invitation for a vote theft IMHO. But I respect everyone’s right to vote their conscience. I just pray there aren’t too many blank spaces!
Thank you. You may be right, but I’m sticking with a lifetime of voting principles.
I am too. I’m against voting for someone that left the people in his own district with no heat during a Chicago winter.
Someone that didn’t know that the people in his own district had collapsing ceilings and rat ridden halls.
Someone that funneled money (taxpayer dollars) to the very people that were supposed to fix these things and didn’t.
Someone that left these people, that filed formal complaints, in a worse condition than he found them.
Complaints that he claims he may have known something about but now can’t remember.
He couldn’t take care of folk in his own backyard. How is supposed to fix the problems of an entire country?
And I respect that. But please understand that, if I have to vote “for” McCain in order to vote “against” Obama, then I won’t. Instead, I’ll abstain for the first time in my Democratic life, for that’s the best I can do to protest the corrupt empty suit. The only other choice would be to vote for John McCain. But, seeing as how he has reaffirmed his conservative principles, including opposition to choice, opposition to gay marriage, being for a Scalia-dominated Court, and a tendency to use the U.S. military in a too-trigger happy way, I can’t vote for him.
May I suggest that you look for a third party candidate you could vote for. There are usually several on the ballot. As an Independent voter who is usually unhappy with the two party choices, I always check them out. Several years ago the Natural Law party actually had a candidate who gave his speech by using a chalkboard to show how he could and would balance the budget - impressed me! (This was when CNN carried 3rd party conventions also.)
Haven’t heard much about who the 3rd party candidates are this year except for Nader and McKinney and they do vary from state to state but it’s worth checking out because every vote for a 3rd party is a vote counted against both the Republican and Democratic parties and make perfectly clear that you just didn’t overlook it. That’s one way Bush “won” in Florida in 2000; all those unmarked ballots for president.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ, the highminded purity people are at it again.
How many unmarked ballot were there compared with Nader votes. What are the numbers.
NADER GAVE US BUSH.
Have to agree with you there rij….It’s not as if my former PROTESTING THE IDIOCY OF THE DNC BY NOT VOTING had any impact….( except to salvage my temper )
*** FOLKS STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO AS THEY SEE FIT….
But I WANT MY VOTE TO COUNT! AGAINST FASCISM! ***
For the first time in 29 years I will vote against the FASCISTS WHO HAVE SEIZED CONTROL OF THE PARTY BUILT BY FDR….I will vote against these people downticket until they are GONE!
That to me is following my conscience. A NQ regular posts often Country before Party….To me this is an exercise of that.
LB,
You will get John McCain or Obama in return for your gesture.
I know — unless we have an open revolt at the Convention, and the chances of that are still slim. So, I’ll live with the vote I don’t cast on the top line and be gratified I have plenty of other good Democrats to vote for down the line.
Hey LB,
I’m like you I know I can’t vote for McCain and refuse to vote for Obama so I’ll vote Dem down ticket although I’ve always liked Nader even though he’ll never win. But I remember Nader from the 70s and he’s been consistant and principled on who he is. And that’s important to me.
LB- better watch out for those “good Democrats down the line.” It is they who put us in this position by giving their endorsement to obama - in many cases flagrantly violating the Will of the People of their district and state.
Do you really want to vote for down-ticket traitors who put us in this position. Recommend you check the primary stats for your state and district and check at DemConWatch for which Pres nominee your local down-ticketers endorsed and when they gave this endorsement.
LB- better watch out for those “good Democrats down the line.” It is they who put us in this position by giving their endorsement to obama - in many cases flagrantly violating the Will of the People of their district and state.
Do you really want to vote for down-ticket traitors who put us in this position. Recommend you check the primary stats for your state and district and check at DemConWatch for which Pres nominee your local down-ticketers endorsed and when they gave this endorsement.
You will go down with the rest of us if you think like that . Four years of McCain is better than four with the Muslim.
Or a life time with a Muslim. “once the camel gets it’s nose under the tent, there goes the tent.”
Here’s the big diff for me….McCain despite his current rhetoric has never been quit the proper Republican Good lil’ soldier….He’s as independent a thinker as you can get with that crowd and that is reassuring somewhat….
I live in GOP ground zero ( TEXAS ) which is basically a mildly fascist state.
I have survived….I can live with it for a little while longer until HRC and other intelligent folks win back the nation…..Obama and the FASCISTS REMAKING AMERICA IS WAAAY MORE SCARY……
Ahhh Hitler Jungen…..
Can our own Kristallnacht be far behind?
Get your attics and cellars ready
nice, real nice……
will this site soon be verboten?…..
Good question.
The Erosion of Anonymous Internet Speech
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060127_sinrod.html
An even more inhibitory bill made the rounds in Congress last year. It would have imposed extremely burdensome record keeping requirements on the owners or operators of any blog having more than about twenty readers or posters. (This number from memory)
As usual, fear was the wedge. Fear of child porn or predation, fear of phishing, fear of “cyberstalking,” fear of “hackers.”
It could as easily have been ‘terrrrrr’sm.
Don’t believe for a minute that the pliant felons occupying Congress really appreciate our newly won ability to speak freely across national, state, and party lines.
Our politicians won’t be truly happy until communication again becomes one way, just like it was in the good old days.
Protecting kids from internet porn? Give me a break. The courts just voted down such a protection - which has been in effect since the 90s - saying it was not constitutional - so now the kids will NOT be protected.
Just heard about that on talk radio this week.
How about these tactics…an Obama follower was driving in Houston…saw an anti-Obama bumper sticker…got furious…followed the people HOME…blocked their driveway….screamed at them…cursed them out…and threatened their lives…police came and had to arrest the Crazy Obama supporter for trespassing and giving terroristic threats.
She thought the bumper sticker was racist. Here’s a picture of the bumper sticker and the article:
http://clintondems.com/2008/07/o-supporter-turned-stalker-jailed-over-bumper-sticker/
That is a really offensive sticker, but it is not racist, since they have the exact same stickers for Bush, etc. But I have always hated those symbols (often they use Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes as the pee-er). No question it is offensive, but offensive to anyone that is the butt of the joke. And clearly threatening someone is out of line.
In the past 3 months, Obama’s campaign volunteers have been canvassing my neighborhood trying to “educate” voters about Obama and his policies.
A month ago they showed an Obama DVD at the local community center. According to a neighbor that as there for another reason, eight people attended the presentation.
The enthusiasm by Obama’s young supporters is real, but that does not equate to votes on November 4th. We will have to see whether the youth of America will actually help elect him. Otherwise, it will fall by the way side much like “Vote or Die” the last time around.
I have found engaging with Obama supporters on my porch to be amusing. They all repeat the same drivel of “hope and change”, but don’t necessarily have the tools or the words to express how Obama will achieve such a task.
I’m not sure if that will be covered at Camp Obama.
If they do this near me, after September 1st, I will play for them the DVD, “Hype-the Obama effect”. It is worth a shot.
Damn I can’t wait for that movie! PUMAs need to play it everywhere!
The only thing I could think of was….
“Hello mother, hello father
Here I am, in Camp Obama…”
They’ll be sworn into the Family of Obama! Mom and Pop will be avowed enemies of the Righteous One.
Seems I read that Ayers, that would be Bill Ayers advocated the youth to kill their parents?
The campaign did this sort of thing before the caucuses. They get their believers all riled up and then turn them loose on the unsuspecting voters.
They yell, shove signs in people’s faces, badger, bully, and verbally abuse.
I know this will upset the O-bots but I’m going to say it anyway. They were particulary nasty to AA Hillary supporters, whom they called “turncoats” and “traitors” and a phrase with the initials HN.
What bothers me is this. Where is the leadership in the DNC? Are these tactics acceptable? Why?
I left the Democratic Party because I wouldn’t be a part of it. And, I will never vote for Obama.
LMV - The misogyny and race-baiting coming from the Obama campaign are enough to turn anyone’s stomach. They threatened Mayor Nutter, the AA mayor of Philadelphia, with death for supporting Hillary.
They are disturbed cult members who cannot stand any suggestion that their Dear Leader is not perfect.
I will bet my next paycheck that brainwashing techniques will be used on those poor fools who sign up for Camp Obama.
madamb, I’m with you. These people are beyond help.
There are some good, decent people supporting Obambi. But, I’ve lost friends over this. When I wouldn’t get on board, that’s right, they threw me under the bus.
Your paycheck would be a safe bet, I’m sad to say.
I’ll say it then: They called Hillary supporters
HILLARY NIGGERS! There! Isn’t that nice?
Through the years, I have watched Democrats demonize African Americans that were conservative or Republican.
This is one reason I will never vote Democrat. To many in the minority community, it is almost a requirement that everyone suffers to “keep it real”.
As with my children, I do not want them emulating people that only focus on race. There is more to this world than being black, brown, and white. If that’s all you’re good for, then you’re wasting a lot of time.
Ditto. The leadership is in the Clintons, that’s the only Democratic leadership in this country. The fact that the DNC is trying to destroy the Clintons tells us all we need to know.
You are so right but where are they? why don’t they speak out now before we are subject to Obama’s dictatorship?
There are so many accounts of voter intimidation and death threats, someone had her tree burned and it’s being investigated by the FBI. Come on! Even the republicans should be speaking out about this stuff! Forget the MSM, our people in office need to take this seriously!
Senator Clinton is doing her job right now, speaking out in the Senate on those issues she said she would support. They can’t chase after Obama on his world tour and they can’t force him back to the Senate to do his job. But, Media can, and the People can.
And if you look at the media there is nothing reported on Senator Clinton so we wouldn’t know if she was speaking out. And no matter what former President Bill Clinton does or says, it isn’t reported unless it is negative.
Well, there is no time like the present to counter Camp Obama with Camp Puma!
Interesting article on Obama’s internet thugs http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/33467.html
Supporters of Larry Sinclair have been threatened, harassed and their private identities as well as medical information hacked and spread on the Internet. One woman had it revealed on the Internet that she had kidney illness, another a spine problem. This information is hacked from the Social Security Administration, the Department of Health and Human Services, Doctor’s Offices, and the like. The hackers are paid Obama workers, Contributors and Supporters.
The hackers’ and harassers’ goal is to intimidate the victim to the point they will end airing their viewpoints and criticism of Barak Obama. The hackers let the victims know they have their personal information, (which in itself is intimidation) then hackers post the information on trash sites to embarrass the victim. Then they remove the information so no one can trace the IP’s and track them down. Not so! Larry Sinclair has documented thousands of threatening emails, hacker IP’s and his supporters have “image captured” the posts with IP’s and hacker information. Sinclair has even recorded phone conversations with the criminals who chose to personally contact him by phone with threats. The support group at Larry Sinclair’s site, who number in the hundreds, have enough information for a serious lawsuit.
One hacker works for Microsoft, another harasser works for a Lobbyist Law Firm in Washington, D.C., which represents Internet providers and another harasser was traced to Dartmouth University. What these criminals have in common is that they are all Obama supporters and contributors. Remember, Obama has hundreds of Paid Internet Smear Tactic Campaign Employees. This is their job!
Questions: Why did Obama need hundreds of internet hackers and harassers? What hidden skeletons did he think would emerge that needed that sort of attention? What else is in Obama’s closet besides Larry Sinclair?
All I can say is…aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
I have one thing to say about that:
Fuggedaboutit.
The official BOBOcamp song
Oh, they built the ship Titanic to sail the ocean blue,
And they thought they had a ship that the water would never leak through,
But the Lord’s almighty hand said this ship would never land
Oh it was sad when the great ship went down!
COME ON!! Sing with me!
Chorus:
Oh, it was sad, it was sad; it was sad, it was sad;
It was sad when the great ship went down, to the bottom of the …
Husbands and wives, little children lost their lives,
It was sad when that great ship went down.
wow I haven’t heard that song since scout camp DECADES ago
I hope one of these nuts starts ranting and raving at the end of my driveway……
Remember that the majority of people in totalitarian countries know the truth but have been subjected to so much intimidation, threats and propaganda shoved down their throats by the totalitarian sponsored media and those surrounding the dictator that they eventually give up. But even with the horror of Bush Americans have not lived under this type of regime and will not succumb to the craziness of BO. He will self destruct because most of us already realize that we will never vote for such an egomaniac.
Thanks Ani for your post and for the comments!
Scary times
Colo. poll is tightening up!
Here’s a preview of obama’s terrorist training camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_XNYtWzQIA
LOL! Guess we have nothing to worry about..
Seriously - Google The Red Guard.
It’s training for his citizen brigade he talked about earlier. You know, the one based in America that is supposed to be as strong as the military?
I think it’s safe to assume that the campers will be trained in voter intimidation tactics and more online bullying such as we’ve seen so far.
For anyone who thinks it can’t happen in America, that’s what they said about 9/11, and that’s what they said in Germany in the 30’s.
Thank you for this article.
The Kids for Obama page is beyond bizarre. Hold an Obama party? Wear Obama t-shirts to school on Thursdays? Etc.
This is all plain sick and quite disturbing!
Found a couple of supporters at camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUXnl36yYvA&feature=related
thanks for making my day!..
The country’s starting to feel like UK after WW2.
On the edge of the precipice, about to cede its once-mighty place of preeminence in the world.
CAMP Obama? What is it, a cult inprocessing facility? Or do you bring sunblock, and prepare yourself for weenie roasts and ghost stories around the campfire? Don’t overtoast that marshmallow, now!
The whole concept is JUVENILE. But then, so’s the campaign.
Obviously what he means when he says he wants to “empower you”, he means, to have us hold him accountable. To hold his feet to the fire on his pledges, you know, like cancelling NAFTA if they don’t revise it to include labor and environmental standards. Oh, no, wait, he decided he is now for Free Trade and the Free Market.
OK, he must mean to hold him accountable on his pledge to take the big money out of campaigns and accept Public Financing. Oh, no, he renegged on that and said, “it’s kind of like public financing, receiving donations from the public” (if that isn’t the most demeaning and sarcastic remark).
He must mean to empower us to hold him accountable for his pledge to oppose the FISA Bill and his willingness to even Filibuster it. Oh no, he got upset when his supporters even put together a petition to hold true to his previously stated position and said, “we may agree on 90 percent” (a la Joe Lieberman, his mentor).
Looks like what Barry Obama means is he wants to “empower you” to give him money, even though he will break all his pledges, because he’s a symbol of change.
Got it!
Hello mother, Hello Father
Here I am at Camp Obama
care to add any lyrics?
Here’s what I have so far-
Hello mother, Hello father
Here I am at Camp Obama
It’s so very entertaining
Maybe they’ll let me eat
After my training
I don’t wanta be a bother-
But dear leader says I gotta
Tap your phone & crash your website
Call you names like “racist”
To start a good fight
I wish you could hear our dear Leader
They play his speeches night & day here
All the other trolls are so groovy
We’re all wearing our new shirts
For his new movie!
great job
LOL
Excellent
Do the women have tp wear 1800’s style skirts at Camp Obama…jus’ sayin’
No, don’t fuss. Burkas are fine.
Oh I can’t wait to go down to the local Target and buy my burka/tent! Now I can hide all my bruises
and cuts from the beatings! My brothers shaved my head and tried to stone me because I had a Christian boyfriend. Sadly they dragged him behind the tractor. He’s dead now and I hope Allah took him to heaven and gave him 72 virgins! Maybe he’ll meet Obama up there eventually and all his earthly travails will pass into the eternal night!
Well, I have to go now. I can hear the echo of footsteps outside and I have to turn out the lights. Please pray for me. I hope Allah sees fit to let me live through what is about to invade my front door. I’m so scared! It’s the Chicago Trinity Youth Group coming for me. They’ve got huge burning crosses and, well, I’ve got to go now.
I don’t know but I’ll bet Hillarity Ensues is one of the camp counselors.
Forgive me if this conjures her up.
LOL. I understand the conjuring. Bet H.E. will be there with bells on.
Since February’s Washington State Dem caucus I have been nagging about the fact that the Obamabots were TRAINED — these were mere volunteers — the Obama thugs were trained with cult like techniques.
People were harassed and intimidated — and the Obamabots made up lies about Clinton to yank anyone who was uncommitted to vote for Obama.
My MA degree is in Group Dynamics and we learned all the techniques to help clients — at the same time we learned how these techniques can be used for other purposes. We talked to people who had been through various est type encounters — there was a lot of experimentation at the time with the human potential movement.
However, I was also raised in a religious cult — so I am well trained in recognizing techniques used to persuade people to give up their own identity and “come to Jesus” — and let others dictate how you should act and talk and how you should THINK.
Many of these methods and techniques in the wrong hands are dangerous. And that’s what I saw in February — a bunch of thugs trained how behavioral techniques to control others. These people WORK TOGETHER. So I could easily spot the teams — although they never were seen together — there was teamwork involved.
I do hope that people will attend these sessions undercover — however be very careful because even if you are aware you can be hooked in by the cult.
An excellent resource to understand what is happening is the book: Snapping by Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman.
This is really a must read textbook — it is really important to understand the techniques that the Obama cult uses BEFORE you can hope to counter their tricks.
One of the worst things that I’ve noticed is that Obama is using Christian charismatic evangelistic techniques in a political campaign.
In February I knew that the Obama thugs in the caucus had been trained — and the confirmation came when I read an article in the Sacramento Bee about Camp Obama. This is cult indoctrination — probably using the same “community” organizing skills that Obama learned in the 80s. Obama isn’t original, he is not creative — he copies other’s stuff all the time.
He is becoming more dangerous.
PUMA
Like this stuff with the fainting audience members. This video blows me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndl57E7UJno
I agree fully. I was raised in a cult as well.
This feeling of ‘upliftment’ will go away and the cultist are left with only fear of leaving, or worse.
It’s the ‘or worse’ that bothers me.
Obama is targeting the young and impressionable for a reason. He is promoting his ‘newness’ and gives everyone a warm funny feeling. At the moment, America is facing economic crisis, similar to Germany pre-Hitler. All of this unrest has created a vacuum and a real feeling of dread and hopelessness. Enter Obama, a charismatic politician who has been proven to take whatever side of an issue is immediately popular, even lying about his previous stand when confronted with the truth. In a word, sociopath.
Mao said “the fiercer the better” when dealing with party opposition. He allowed 30 million people die of starvation rather than admit the failure of his policies.
Hitler also had the famous “Hitler Youth”. Young people trained in party tactics.
Obama is using a combination of Mao and Hitler’s tactics to secure this thing. The question is, is this sociopath capable of, and willing to imprison, financially ruin, and murder his opposition?
Look what he’s gotten away with so far.
My fear is that these reports of voter intimidation, and threats, and the violence already carried out in Obama’s name, will be treated as isolated incedents and forgotten.
I cannot do it. But I truly hope that someone, or more than one, organisation is keeping account of these abuses and find a way to unite the people before we have to rely on France and England to liberate us.
I hope that McCain’s people are reading this and are ready to take counter measure.
The part about combining religion and politics is what really scares me about these thugs. Most people are prepared to handle the psychological warfare that Obama is using.
And here’s another problem I wrestled with when I analyzed the psychology of world War II. When does it become so bad that you decide to flee? What was the catalyst that pushes one from feeling that they can’t leave to abruptly abandoning their lives? And what factors made some wait so long that they were trapped and couldn’t leave?
The parallels of what I discovered with what is happening in my own country is unbelievable. We have already entered that first phase during the Bush administration when many U. S. citizens immigrated out of the country. I don’t like feeling that I’m not just a researcher but am becoming part of the research.
But the question haunts me, how soon and will we recognize it? From this primary election I feel the answer will be known in November which way our country will be going and that is when our citizens will start making decisions about their future.
Private army, youth camps or back to our Democracy. It is almost impossible to believe that in 60 years we’ve gone from trying to discover what went wrong with Germany to watching a serious presidential candidate emulating Germany’s psychological plan.
Bbbbbbut that kinda stuff works really really good in other THEOCRACIES….
Two days of koolaid, arugula and waffles. Two days of hopey changey speeches. Two days of obamassimilation. Two days with elitist snobs, new age gurus and college kiddies.
WHERE DO I SIGN UP???
That is a great description blu….Obama’s campaign will probably swipe it.
this is no longer amusing.
Why is McCain so reluctant to rebut the Obamanation?
Something in denmark smells.
In other words..”how to create a great sign”
200,000 . . . or 20,000? Obama’s Crowd in Berlin
Obama Addresses 200,000 in Berlin” — thus ran the AP headline the day after Barack Obama’s much-hyped speech in front of Berlin’s Siegessäule or “Victory Column.” This 200,000 figure has quickly become the standard estimate of the crowd for Obama’s speech in both the American and the German media: so standard indeed that it is for the most part not even treated as an estimate.
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/blog/blog.aspx?id=2492
One of the talking heads essentially just said that with numbers like those it is inevitable he will be President.
LOL
These people are so sick you can’t even take any of them serious anymore. HOw sad it all is.
You apparently think this has something to do with indoctrination.
You don’t pay for your own transportation, food and lodging to go somewhere to get indoctrinated. You’re committed to a cause before you sign on. You go to learn how to do what you’re already doing more effectively.
The Obama campaign has been a grassroots movement from the start. It’s relied on self-movitated local volunteers everywhere it’s gone. This is just more of that.
Nobody is paying these people. They’re doing what they’re doing because they genuinely believe in something. They believe in the possibility of change, and they’ve got this weird idea in their heads that they can help make it happen.
They stand out in stark contrast against the background because they have no opposing counterpart. You simply don’t find such youthful enthusiasm in the republican camp. The republicans can’t work up such a head of steam about the status quo, because everybody realizes that the status quo basically stinks on ice, and the republicans have put forward an old guy who appears to offer only more of the same.
That’s what you’re up against in November.
Lots of luck with it.
What they believe, Crat, is of no concern because they don’t know what they believe. They haven’t been told yet. They aren’t learned enough to be able to decide for themselves anything because they don’t know anything.
And, apparently, dickhead, neither do you.
What you foolish children fail to do is COUNT.
It is MY generation, you stupid little shit, that outnumbers all the others. In conjunction with the Greatest Generation, we outnumber you about four to one.
And since your Furless Leader just pissed all over the wounded heroes in a hospital and also snubbed a whole column of troops in Afghanistan, there isn’t a veteran or military family in the country who would piss on Obama if he was on fire.
Polls don’t show that because polls don’t want to know.
We do know. This will be the most devastating defeat in history. In “eight or ten years,” Entertainment Tonight will be doing a blurb on how, since his imprisonment, Barry has really accepted Jesus and wants to open a church in Southie when he gets out.
Zeke,
Good job! Baby Boomer power!
Just how old do you suppose I am? You’re as far off there as are in your estimation of my intelligence. You’re about 40 klicks short of the target.
This particular Vietnam veteran is an Obama supporter. I’m not the only one who’s had a word or two to say about Obama.
Maybe you should ask a few vets, soldiers, or parents with sons or daughters on second tours in combat zones how they feel about Barack Obama and John McCain before you appoint yourself their spokesman.
While you’re at it you might study up on McCain’s votes on veterans and active duty military. It’s effin’ dismal. Votes against safety equipment for the troops in Iraq, for godsake! I remember what was going on back then. The local cops here were taking up collections to buy body armor vests for our soldiers because the DOD wasn’t sending them. We were sending guys into the field in lightly-armored Hum-Vees and IEDs were blowing them apart like tin cans. McCain voted against bills to provide the stuff they needed in April 2003, and again in October 2003. I don’t forget shit like that, no matter how hard a candidate waves the flag and talks up his support of troops and veterans.
Take a look at this page and tell me why any soldier or veteran wouldn’t be put out.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/9559
So what if Obama skipped a stop at a German hospital? At least he votes for veterans’ health care and for the safety and care of our troops. That means a hell of a lot more to me.
Take the vote for incompetent General Casey’s nomination as Army Chief of Staff, who could give a f*ck about the troops having the proper training or equipment.
Votes to confirm Casey:
Obama — Yea
McCain — No
Clinton - No
You’re just another moronic astrotroll who isn’t fooling anyone.
Obama doesn’t give a F*CK about the troops. We saw that in Afghanistan and we saw it in Germany, just in the last week.
Barry is a total, unbridled punk pr*ck. Your $7/hour hack crap isn’t going to change that, and day by day, more people are finding out.
Stupid cultists and their minimum wage astrotrolls.
And your disrespectful rants and name-calling, Sir, remind me of the quacking of an angry duck trapped at the bottom of a rain barrel. If you bothered to look up over your head you’d see that there’s light up there and you could simply fly out.
That a lot of people share views differing from your own doesn’t make them cultists. The fact that they organize to promote a candidate they believe represents those views doesn’t either. Doing that is a fundamental part of the democratic process.
The Bush campaign defeated two good democratic opponents by exploiting fear and by attacking character. In Kerry’s case, I saw the reputation of a decorated war veteran methodically torn down in favor of an obnoxious former frat boy who seems to have gone AWOL from his national guard unit, and his assorted corporate-connected chicken-hawk associates. They maneuvered the country into a pointless, potentially ruinous war, and then pursued it with a level of strategic ineptness nothing less than astonishing. Near as I can tell, the attacks on Barack Obama are nothing more than a variation on that same strategy. It’s all a matter of keeping the focus off actual policy and attacking the person.
So, we’re supposed to let them play that game and pull it off a third time?
That’s Wrong…….the Moonies always pay their own way, Kultist.
Look at the mind of the Kultist above.
This is how they get the youth super indoctrinated, the more they have at stake the more they will follow the personality without question. And that’s how it always is.
Then they excuse FISA reversals, his decision to stay in Iraq as long as necessary, he could even pick a Republican running mate. He can do anything for the Camp Kid above.
If a kid’s indoctrinated he excuses anything His Fearless leader does.
Above me, is such a Lost Boy. Kid, if you’ve changed you’re mind are now excusing Obama’s new policies on anything you thought you held dear before (and you know you are), you’re already not thinking any more.
That’s how you know you’re a moonie. We’re not being insulting, this cult stuff is far from new. And if you were vehemently against FISA and are now excusing Obama’s latest then that’s a red flag.
Why is it ok to bring up a candidates age against them? That is discrimination. Any kind of discrimination is wrong. What if someone said it was a bad move to vote for Obama because he appears to be a black man. Every Depends joke against Senator McCain can be turned around showing Obama with one on his head, as in turban style. Are we understanding each other now? With so many baby boomers able to vote, just keep on with the agesism
remarks it may play well in Chicago, but not in hometown USA with bitter bible tooters, who if not older, do respect their elders.
Ok, so who will volunteer to be a McCain mole at the training camp? LOL
I have thought many times that PUMAs should infiltrate Obi’s camp and sabotage him by video taping the thuggery or something.
I just wouldn’t be able to do it. Seriously I wouldn’t last 10 minutes. I just can’t stand Omakemepuke or his supporters!
Anyone remember the movie “V” about the ‘Visitors’ from space who tried to take over our world. Yeah… they started a similar ‘camp.’
In Texas, Obama campaign officials taught Precint Delegate Chairpersons that anything the Chairperson said to other Precinct Delegates could be legally used against them in a voter rights lawsuit. They claimed that virtually any statement even remotely associated with Texas Democratic Party rules and procedures (such as dates and times) could be labeled as “misinformation.”
As a result, Precint Delegate Chairpersons who supported Obama, but were elected to represent ALL Precint Delegates (Obama and Clinton), simply didn’t contact Clinton Delegates to inform them about designated meeting times and places for their respective precincts at County Caucuses. They did contact Obama delegates.
So Clinton delegates, who had to rely upon Obama Delegate Chairpersons to provide them with required information, were left to figure things out for themselves when they arrived at the overcrowded and disorganized County caucuses.
Cleaver bas*ards — creeps!
The Obama thugs were well organized in Washington.
After the caucus experience there is NO way that I would EVER vote for Obama.
He is dangerous.
Thankfully I’m not the only one who see how rotten this creep is.
PUMA
don’t get me started on texas! i’m in texas and i’m still pissed.
I wonder if they have these kids hand out flowers at the airport.
NA-MAYO-RENGE-OBAMAS-A-FOOOOL
wonder if they have long hair parted in the middle with a little X etched in their foreheads….
Kat,
You cannot have hair under your burka! It is a sin against Allah to show your hair!
hmmmmmm……a week before the democratic convention.
He got his Youth Movement from the same guy he mimicked with his Rallies. Toss in his Kids’ page.
To even try to deny the similarities is laughable. The only thing we don’t have yet is the war.
When is Dear Leaders’ personal Leni going to appear to document the Movement ala Triumph of the Will…..
The AP is running a story saying that McCain is using Hillary’s tactics. That they’re talking about experience and inevitability.
The problem is, Hilary Clinton never said her nomination was inevitable. The Corporate media did. The so-call liberals and progressives ate it up.
Hillary did point out her experience. It does outweigh Obama’s in actual legislation and results.
The media are determined that Obama win. Now they’re using the same tactics against McCain that they used against Hillary. Now, instead of sexism, they’re using ageism.
Camps, total media support, death threats and intimidation. Acting as though you’re already in office when no election has taken place.
Now what leader and his followers acted that way?
Who could that be?
I actually heard a guy on MSNBC say tonight that the reason why JM and BO are so close in the polls is because “the average voter doesn’t get their info like the media does”; therefore, “they don’t watch a video of McCain and conclude that he is terrible and then watch a video of Obama and conclude that he is great.”
Dammit Annie,
You always hit the target. Do you think its time that the media start to feel pressure from our side?
We don’t email the networks, we just bombard major advertisers with mail saying that we will not buy if they advertise on CNBC, CNN, and all the broadcast Networks.
Same thing at local levels for any stations who show a bias.
Everyone is always carping about raising money to do things.
Lets start talking about DENYING money to networks. All that takes is a little research to line up advertisers’ customer relations e-mail addys and we’re on our way.
I’m always happier when I’m hitting my enemy in ways he can’t defend easily.
the most effective way to do that would be to cancel cable for a year. 10K households would be something like a $6M loss to the cable companies and they would probably raise internet access to make up for the loss, but the media can do nothing without viewers. Ad revenues are based on ratings. That’s where people have some leverage.
But that’s one sacrifice people are unwilling to make.
That’s ’so-called’.
Considering the fact that the Corporatist Media is driving the Obama Express, I am really getting exasperated with the “Marxist” and “Communist” and “Socialist” posts popping up on virtually every thread for the past several weeks. I wish some posters would show a little more intelligence instead of trying to channel Joe McCarthy and understand that the merging of Corporations with Government is NOT COMMUNISM, ITS FASCISM.
Obama is NOT a COMMUNIST. I don’t care if he has Marxist friends. He just uses people. Look at his career in the Senate and the way he’s run for President. Corporations know who their friends are, and they don’t bundle money to get Communists elected.
Obama is the tool of Corporations. He’ll be their glittery hood ornament while they run the show under the hood. He’s not a Communist. HE’S A FASCIST.
Thank you John. The merger of Corporations and political power is Fascism.
Yes John….Obama is a fascist. However the Soviets have such colorful lingo.
Dear Leader…just seems so appropo….
How ’bout we call him “Il Dupe?” seems to cover the above definition.
Obama has been running these camps since summer 2007, if not earlier.
I feel like joining just to get an upclose peek at the indoctrination but I’m afraid i won’t be able to keep a straight face.
This sounds like something PUMAs need to find a way into - infiltrate so to speak. Let’s go undercover!
Of course, we should have done this with the training camps barky’s campaign held before the primaries - oh, how things might have been different if we’d had first-hand knowledge of the shenanigans they were planning!
How do you think we can get in?
Wow! I think I may go just to learn his madness…
What’s even funnier is I registered on his website as PUMA DEFECTOR …. AND THEY TOOK IT. Now I get emails and letters addressed to PUMA DEFECTOR …this was funny for me. Wish I would have went with Backtrack Nobama or something. Fun to forward to my friends.
LOL! That’s a great idea. We could all come up with some great names to register with.
I like this idea.
Let’s infiltrate Camp Obama and see the Nazi school with our own eyes and cameras?….
hmmmmmm.
Sorry,
Forgot to add if I can find the link i downloaded to one person’s experience at such a camp in summer ‘07 i will post it.
I wasn’t going to really vote for mccain, but after the last few weeks, I made up my mind to do it….
Actually, I’m starting to feel comfortable voting for him instead of the ONE.
PUMA DEFECTOR cause he wasn’t ELECTED
It’s a tough decision. I’m concerned that Obama’s combination of being naive and full of hubris could be really dangerous. He makes decisions before he has the information. He believes he has the answers before he even knows what the questions are.
For example, Hillary once mentioned all the widows and orphans that the war has created in Iraq as well as the broken infrastructure. She was talking about the details and the consequences around getting out of Iraq. She was thinking about how to extract ourselves without leaving a genocide in our wake. Obama was simply preaching his line about “we’ll be out of Iraq in 16 months.” No thought to the consequences or details. No concern that he might not have all the information needed to make that kind of a decision.
I honestly believe Obama is potentially much more dangerous then McCain when it comes to war and our foreign policy. Details matter, wisdom matters. These are people’s lives, you can’t just say, oops, I didn’t think of that.
Magical thinking.
I’ve read Obama’s followers trumpeting what they’ll do in the first 100 days. It’s a magic number.
Can anybody forget how our ‘06 Dem led Congress worked out after the first 100 days were up?
I’ve read Obama’s followers boasting about the seats they’ll have at Obama’s policy making table.
There are no words…
I just looked at Obama’s site for kids. Enlist impressionable children who may influence their parents. Maybe he can get votes from those who will be 18 in 4 years because they have invested in his brand. He is even urging kids to write their local papers. Free advertising for Obama from kids who think he’s cool. I feel sick.
Camp Obama is copying CAMP Wellstone. This guy has no originality and no shame. His speech last night pimp out Lines from BONO speech on peace last year.
Camp Obama link seems to be dead now. Do you have a screen shot? I mean you HAVE to get screen shots before Winston jumps out of 1984 and scrubs.
I just tried the link and it is working. Maybe get out of the site and come back and refresh…please let us know if you are still having trouble.
Thx for posting.
Hitler youth all over again. Someone stop these lunatics.
America has it’s major flaws and Bush Co. has pillaged and plundered, but there is no way this country deserves brownshirt tactics.
I don’t care if Obama originated it with the best of intent. He should know better than to prey upon kids and KIA college students.
Researchers say the human brain doesn’t really mature fully until age 25. Obama is preying upon the mentally immature!
aaaaand IT WORKS…..I mean that’s how the Taliban got control….the ave. age was barely above teenager….Iranian Revolution same thing….Always appeal to the restless and none too bright ( experienced ) YOUTH…Mao did it….Adolf…
My God! The man is having ORIENTATION SESSIONS FOR HIS POLITICAL VOLUNTEERS!
What the hell sort of “politician” does that?
And what’s next? Flyers? Yard signs? Bake sales?
Is there no end to his diabolical perfidy?
THE MAN’S A DANGEROUS MANIAC.
Party on, PUMAs.
Cultist, we will, and if whatever the # of votes we don’t cast for The One somehow denies that corrupt empty suit his career zenith, then we will have a fine party indeed.
Hats and T shirts, buttons and bow….all these things are needed to elect this ho…..
Nobody is paying these people. They’re doing what they’re doing because they genuinely believe in something. They believe in the possibility of change, and they’ve got this weird idea in their heads that they can help make it happen.
Yes. It’s positivety vs. negativity. Voters are sick and tired of negativity. Obama says what he will do and buzzes around looking all positive and energetic. McCain gets crotchety, issues cranky criticisms about Obama, and seems to need a nap. It’s a prolonged 21st Century version of the televised Nixon/JFK debates.
Won’t work Obamabot — we know what you Obama thugs did in the caucuses — and we know that you are NOT positive because we have to put up with you nasty Obamaots every day.
You Obamabots wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you on your ass.
You are a mindless cult member who can only copy and paste what your supervisors tell you is the correct Obamaling answer.
How does it feel to be backing a loser — a manipulative, self centered, male chauvinist pig — loser.
Where is BOBO’s birth certificate and when is he going to jail???
PUMA
I wouldn’t know. I have never backed such a candidate.
Sooo you were too young to vote for Kerry? Thought so. You’re a plebe.
Somebody needs to ready 1984. Look negativity is all around you, you change that from with in not from without. YOu can not look to other people as a source of positive energy. I’m not so happy myself, but I’d be darned if I give up my basic american rights for the pipe dream that someone else will make me happy. Americans are not happy because people are always telling them they don’t have enough something, And to vote for someone that one a bad day looke like Hitler and on a good one like Stalin, will not help you to achieve the positive energy you are looking for. All it will bring is more negativity. For goodness sake, if people would just learned to respect other people that in itself would hep, but you don’t want to do that, you want to take your basic rights and freedoms and chuck them anytime you like. My parents only received their basic rights in the last part of the twentieth centry, and people had to be hosed down, bitten by dogs, beaten with rubber bats rapped in barbed wire, lynched, and shot for them to have it. SO as a black person I”m not so willing to buy into obama’s happiness pipe dream. Obama could barely work with the people in the illinois senate cause of his arrogence, and i’m supposed to believe he wants to help me. I don’t think so. He wants power, and the quicker people figure it out the better off we all will be.
Is that true? The Republicans had Young Americans for Freedom some years ago, and the Young Republicans were very well organized - and FUNDED on college campuses. There were many jokes about Bush Jugend during 2000. The recruitment pitch has been tailored to appeal to the current cohort.
You can’t change anything when all you’ve done is believe someone else is gonna give it to you.
Tell us, Indiana, how he’s gonna ‘do’ what he’s promised?
Do you have any idea?
ummmmm what about this ” Can’t I just eat my waffles?” That kind of cranky? Or maybe this kind of cranky? A reporter asks Obama to repeat something and Obama snarkily says, “ask you buddies there to repeat if for you.” That kind of cranky? Please ’splain’ it to this former Obama voter…..
Oh, goody. We can feel good about ourselves and feel warm and tingly now that Oblahblah is here.
You bought the snake oil–you drink it. I won’t touch the stuff.
Ummmmm, is this the kind of camp where they slip their mind controlling slugs under your pillows, that slither into your ear and burrow into the brain? Or is it the other kind, where you have to bring your OWN slugs?
Don’t you know McCain is the true Manchurian Candidate, brainwashed by Chinese mind-control specialists during his long captivity in North Vietnam?
The moment he’s sworn in, Chinese Communist troops are going to swarm out from their hiding places under every Wal-Mart parking lot in the country. Their first objective will be to take over our gas stations.
Arrogance Will Not Help Get Obama Elected
Excerpt: In the prayer he left at the Western Wall, Senator Obama asked the Lord to protect him from pride and despair. Maybe he should have added something about protecting his campaign from the related danger of arrogance. It might be the biggest threat to Obama’s success.
“They think they can’t lose,” one of the smartest people I know said to me this week, describing the attitude he sees on display in the Obama campaign. He isn’t the first one to say it.
There was a crop of stories, as the trip was ending, suggesting that the Obama campaign, which used to pride itself on its openess and transparency as compared to the Clinton machine, has now abandoned openess and transparency in favor of tight controls, attacks on reporters who write less-than flattering pieces, and a particularly unattractive form of hardball that people who think they are on the way to the White House, or already there, often adopt. It will not serve him well.
Continue reading excellent article:
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Get over it already…
And learn to GooseStep
What is the connection between Dean’s recruiting and training people in each state, his 50-state strategy; and these Obama kids being trained?
Did the DNC not spend a lot of money doing this? And was it all to help Obama?
These are good questions — which should be answered.
But so far Howie has been unresponsive — he seems pleased with himself. Four years ago I thought there was something smarmy and slimy about him.
The American press should be intelligent enough to look ahead and realize their role in an Obama Presidency - only those who glorify him in print or on the tube will be granted access to him, no off the cuff press conferences, no questioning of his decisions, on and on. Transparency and truth will be just words in the dictionary, and the American people will be spoon fed the same biased crap for 4 years.
Just another reason to vote for John McCain, the not-so-eloquent speech giver who nevertheless shows the courage to speak with the people in the town hall meetings, answer their questions no matter how difficult they may be, and demonstrates to many of us the courage of his convictions and the courage it takes to be leader of the free world. Pretty speeches written by 22 speech writers simply do not compare to the courage of a man who continually puts himself out there to questions by any in his audiences. Hillary Clinton did it, John McCain does it, and the press adores the only one who constantly runs from any in depth questioning by even the press themselves! Go figure…….
Obama’s speeches aren’t so pretty when you take out the plagiarism.
Why doesn’t that genius from Harvard write his own speeches? He wrote two silly books so why not a speech?
We all think that his logo looks VERY juvenile… Sort of like a kids summer camp emblem!!! Fitting, eh?!
The Arabic Chart
The Arabic Ascendant
In the Arabic Chart your Sun will be on the Ascendant, thus the Arabic Ascendant shows how to bring forth the power of your Sun. People with their Sun exactly on their Ascendant don’t have a separate Arabic chart, they meet the world in an instinctive and direct way, their essence fits well with their role, they are doing their thing.
The Sun on the Ascendant
may mean that your self-expression is natural and assured, automatic and instinctive, resembling Aries/Leo type (the 1st house/the Sun). You may find your own voice when still very young, although often quite unconsciously. There may be a desire for power and some egocentricity. In the East (especially in India) this is a common placement in the charts of gurus - according to Lois M. Rodden so common that it is curious, if not suspect. Examples: Pakh Subud, Sri Aurobindo and Sai Baba. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. sun sign is Leo …..
Does this explain the rising sun over the flag at Obama’s web site? Yes it does look childish in a ghastly way. As did his “presidential seal”
Hello Mudda; Hello Fadda;
Here we are at Camp Obama:
http://bytwerk.com/gpa/ib33-15.htm
Well Done Kevin….enjoyed that
Thanks
Apologies to Pete Townsend
The opera does have elements in common with him which we shall not name, the messiah complex, idiot followers, and hopefully the downfall
These are nothing more than indoctrination or re-education camps. Oh yeah, this is the sort of change I’m looking for. Reminds me of either an Alfred Hitchcock or Serling TV show where the children spied on their parents, reporting back to the local constabulary.
I am dumbfounded at the lemming-like supporters of this rotten-to-the-core, pretend democrat.
Will someone wake me up from this nightmare?
Oblockhead can create every euphemism in the world to deceive his supporters and hide the truth but no matter how thinly you slice cow flop, it is still bullsh*t.
I think of the The Who’s Rock Opera, Tommy:
Tommy: Welcome to the Camp,
I guess you all know why we’re here.
My name is Tommy
And I became aware this year
If you want to follow me,
You’ve got to play pinball.
And put in your earplugs
Put on your eyeshades
You know where to put the caulk
The DNC has (paid?) canvassers on the block where I work: young, attractive, very robotic and very aggressive. When I tell them how the way the DNC has handled the primaries has disappointed me and I can no longer support them and then walk away, they start shouting after me on the street. It is obvious that they are scripted and very thoroughly trained.
look about 5 posts above
Whoa - great minds and all.
also note the freudian slip in using “tactic” as a method to learn in the “training”. Not “skills” to learn to register to vote. “Tactics”.
Beginnning to sound too much like Camp Davidian.
I suppose this shouldn’t surprise anyone since the children wrested power from the adults in the party. Having little in the way of life experience, the youthful automatons bought the words of the flapping jib know as Obama hook, line, and sinker. Speaking of sinker, how are his poll numbers?
Think they is studyin up on Brother MAO….and the cultural Revolution ? HUH ?
Yeah, except Oblahblah has his Little Dull Book in lieu of the red one.
God helps us. This is so disturbing. What is the true purpose of Emperor Ego’s youth camp? This age group cannot vote. Parents and schools should teach their children about the political process in our government–not the Obamadons. We have enough Kool-aid drinking adults. We don’t need a generation of budding “Kumbiya Kids.” I assume that BO needs the children to pressure /convince their parents to vote for the Appointed One–much like Sen. Bob Casey’s(Pa.)kids. The analogy to the Hitler Youth movement is frighteningly apparent. This just isn’t right people. Wake up!!
It’s what IN the package that counts–not HOW it’s packaged.
Kids! Obots! Don’t forget the aloe vera to soothe the chafing from the agitation drills!
What we need is “Voting Angels”, like the group of people who dressed as angels to protect others during protests and funerals. Puma Angels.
Pumagelica
You’re worried about Camp Obama being a dangerous cult?
What about Blackwater? Most people don’t stop to think about this as an enormous private army of right-wing fundamentalist mercenaries, but that’s exactly what it is. They’re not under DoD control. They’re paid through the State Department with public money. They’re a contract army. No doubt McCain will inherit them from the Bush administration.
Politicized right-wing fundamentalists now hold 50% of the chaplaincy appointments in the regular armed services and service academies, and have agressively taken their message and their own unique brand of politicized Christianity to the troops. This was done methodically and purposefully.
The Christian Embassy–another private, right-wing, highly politicized religious organization–now proselytizes freely and agressively within the Department of Defense. They hold well-attended daily meetings at a room in the Pentagon itself. They made a promotional film featuring high-ranking, highly placed uniformed military officers. What sort of message does that send to the enlisted personnel it’s played for?
Do you think this stuff doesn’t all fit together into a larger, purposeful pattern?
The fascists aren’t on the democratic side of the political divide. The cultists aren’t the kids passing out flyers for Barack Obama.
Dude, where have you been? Barky HEARTS Blackwater. Google his statement on Iraq, Blackwater, private contractors. He thinks they’re OK Dokey.
He’s probably just a little bit nervous about crossing Bush’s Praetorian Guard…
PUMAs really should attend. You need to find out what Obama has planned, either for the convention or for stealing the election in November. Know his tactics and enact counter-tactics.
I do not trust this guy and I am terribly afraid that he might intimidate prospective voters, and that he might rig the voting machines.
God bless America, or we are lost.
“Today Barack Obama finally abandoned his dangerous insistence on an unconditional withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq by making clear that for the foreseeable future, troop levels in Iraq will be ‘entirely conditions based.’ We welcome this latest shift in Senator Obama’s position, but it is obvious that it was only a lack of experience and judgment that kept him from arriving at this position sooner.
“John McCain has always held the position that any withdrawal from Iraq must be based on conditions on the ground. With the incredible success of the surge, which John McCain advocated, it is increasingly likely that U.S. troops will be able to withdraw with victory in hand. John McCain had long urged Barack Obama, who opposed the surge, to return to Iraq in order to see the immense changes in the security situation there since his last visit. Now that Obama has finally met with General Petraeus, it appears that he has also come to the conclusion that troop levels in Iraq must be based on the conditions on the ground.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/26/you-must-be-kidding-obama-says-residual-troop-levels-in-iraq-are-entirely-conditions-based/#comments
Scary — sounds familiar:
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
The camps sound like Hitler Youth training, in modern day America. How freakin appropriate that BObo visited Germany and made a big point about wanting to speak there as Kennedy did.
Maybe he has a special affinity with a part of Germany’s political history. My heart sank when I saw interviews with German people singing the praises of bobo there.
Im sure that people of other countries would love to see American with a responsive, honorable President, but they are sadly misled to believe those would be qualities found in Obama.
The good thing about Senator Barack winning the White House is that all of you “bitter Hillaries” and McShames will be so upset that you will move out of America and into WhereTheHeckEver where you belong, and the United States will be a great place in which to live!
Poor Ani …The good thing about Senator Barack winning the White House is that all of you “bitter Hillaries” and McShames will be so upset that you will move out of America and into WhereTheHeckEver where you belong, and the United States will be a great place in which to live!
Poor you — J. Anderson. No one here is bitter. But we are intelligent enough to know a fraud when we see one.
Save your pity for yourself.
Larry,
This is straight out of Alinsky. But McCain is beating them with Boyd.
I explain it at Obama Be.
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Why do voters have to be “organized?”
We go to the polls and — vote. SECRETLY
Maybe Obama has a different version of what that would be — something like if some folks are trying to get some folk unionized … they keep bugging those folks until they sign a card [not so secret] of the union’s position — and they can check it to count the “vote” — Maybe that’s Obama’s version of organizing voters? Or is it putting them in an Obama Bus at the nursing home and helping them vote when they get there?
I do not want and America does not need Saul Alinsky (the source of the “strateies” and also, I might add, Hillary’s mentor) being the driving force in the the Executive Office.
Now THAT is creepy.
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