The Economy
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 29, 2008 at 7:22 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Economy, Ellen Degeneres, Hillary Clinton, Superdelegates
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So, the blaring headline today is that the next president is going to inherit a GAZILLION dollars in debt. Okay, that was not the exact figure. The actual figure is $482 BILLION, which does not include $ for the war.
So, once again, here is a video of Jim Cramer, from Mad Money on CNBC, telling Ellen Degeneres who is the BEST candidate for president in terms of dealing with the economy. That candidate is HILLARY CLINTON!
OKAY, Superdelegates - REALLY - open your eyes! It is not Amateur Hour here. We already had one of those, and it has been DISASTROUS.
Heck, that guy was way more experienced than the guy the DNC is pushing now!! We simply cannot AFFORD another president who is getting on the job training.
We need someone who has a good handle on the economic issues confronting the country, and the ability to lead us into economic stability. Hillary Clinton is the ONLY candidate to be able to do that. And really, there will be no hard feelings for your brief foray into the Obama camp. Unlike the Jesse Jackson, Jr.’s of the Obama camp, we will forgive and forget, as long as you come to your senses already, and realize this was just a crush, a passing fancy. But now it is time to get SERIOUS, and support the candidate who is best for the country. And who can beat John McCain with one hand tied behind her back. Don’t worry - we’ll have your backs against those rabid cultists. You can do it. We’re right there with you. We NEED Clinton as the nominee. The COUNTRY needs Clinton as the nominee. All right. You can do it! We know you can.
You know - come to think of it, the DNC completely breaking with tradition and moving the Convention to August might be one of the best things they have done in a year. It has given the Superdelegates, and the rest of the country, the opportunity to see that Obama is not at all ready, or able, to lead this country. It has made it abundantly clear that only Hillary Clinton can beat John McCain. And that her plans and policies are what this country needs. Who woulda thunk it?!?
Okay, SDs - just come on back to the reality-based community. We are here for you!


Coward Dean
You are pathetic piece of crap!!!
Why Obama looses…
Obama believes America can be a great country again.
I believe we are a Great Country Now!
and,
I feel like making no apologies about it!
Susan Estrich showed the she is a Puma tonight on Hannity,
At the moment they mentioned Obama’s great vision for the future she blurted out…
What about the Rev. Wright and his book!
Estrich is Nobama!
Seattle — I second that. Now in addition to being bitter hags Howard Dean has now called us low class. Keep it up Howie and you can can hold your next convention in a phone booth.
And here is another reason, read this and ask yourself, whom do you want in the White House?
U.S. Intel: Iran Plans Nuclear Strike on U.S.
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/iran_nuclear_plan/2008/07/29/117217.html
Not my favorite site but the author Kenneth R. Timmerman has done extensive studies of Iran and it’s military.
Thanks Obama.
I guess that trip went real well for you.
Two days after you get back we find that Iran wants to nuke us.
Iran also said today that we’re going down!
Great negotiating skills Obama!
Guess Iran is not falling for that hopey thing.
Nothing left in the Bong for Iran. I guess they are miffed. O is a clown. He just doesn’t see the big red nose on his face.
Nope…as we have spoken of before….Fraid there’s gonna be some Empirical Wompass happenin soon…
Scary…Truly Scary
SO it will be about the economy and if you Take Adm. Mullen at his word, we don’t need another, either. Imagine the a 9 trillion national debt and 3 wars….
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Nobody wants another war. We need someone tough as nails to deal with the Iranians before we have a catastrophe on our hands. Even a strike on Iranian installations does not necessarily mean an all out war, and I wish we don’t have to go there.
You don’t have to go to Iran.
A simple drawdown of US forces in Iraq will go a long way. This whole nuclear issue is just more posturing by a bankrupt Bush regime eager to draw attention away from disaster after disaster.
Iran has a right under the NPT but you wouldn’t know that from the administration and the media narrative being blarred day-in day-out.
Think of it from an Iranian perspective: surrounded by US forces on three sides and one or two naval groups off your coast. If anyone has a right to be paranoid, it’s isn’t the Israeli or the Americans. It’s the Iranians.
Iran hasn’t attacked anyone in over 250 years but attacked by just about everybody. In fact, I’m less worried about Tehran having nukes than I am of Tel Aviv, Islamabad or even New Delhi (BJP are a bunch of crazzzies).
It maybe due factors out side the diminished US sphere of leverage.
I get what you are saying about Iran and her reactions to what is on her borders.
What ever one ascribes to thd current ME conditions re: Iran it can’t be ignored either.
Wiping Isreal off the map might be rhetoric but it is not the empty kind. Russia just signed a mutual defense pac with Russia so the issue gets dicey.
Just saying.
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Russia just signed a mutual defense pac with
RussiaIran.This is so twisted, it will take too much time to answer you. You need to study the last 30 years in the middle east and stop using buzz words like ‘Bush regime.’ Iran uses serogetes
to do it’s dirty work and it will do so with nukes.
I am curious if you infer I am miss-informed, as I have taken a keen interest in the region for many years. I would not pretend to be anything but a humble kite and am not any kind of expert.
I am not sure what you mean by buzz words. I am not aligned with any piticular view just what is occuring and take much of it with a grain of sceptisism. If you have a view, I really don’t care if it will take “to much time”. You didn’t take it and that is not my problem.
Still I would rather hear what you had to say than not.
They have a right, but they also talk alot of crazy shit like calling our country a great Satan and promising the occupying Zionist regime will be wiped from the pages of time. Iran is a radical theocracy that believes in a twelfth imam… who knows how much of that is posturing, but our allies are as freaked out as we are. We just gave the Saudis nukes. Israeel could get blown up or we could. There really is no getting around the situation. We can’t impose embargos or sanctions. And if Iraq falls to Iran, you will have a Persian empire like you had 250 years ago, and they will have nukes.
We just gave the Saudis nukes.
Say what Hope Floats??
link? Missed that one.
Wish we could have a real discussion face to face, peace.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/are-we-giving-saudi-arabia-nukes/
Yeah Rev. Amy….It’s the ECONOMY AMERICA….You know Capitalism ?
Precisely, WCA (and I really enjoyed your commentsover at the discussion on DADT, too!).
There is also an extensive interview between Cramer and Clinton on his show. He interviewed her for abt 17 minutes, and she answered every question in her usual knowledgeable style. She was amazing. It’s on youtube, too…
Thanks…Keep up the Good Work….It’s that Important and Good writers are needed.
Hillary was on Jim Cramer’s show and they were awesome together, rapid-fire round on a lot of economic issues. The YouTube is here.
That link did not work for me. But I checked Youtube and found this..is this the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff7ljM0Lpl4
Thanks, TeaMug! And yes, that is part 1 - I think they had to take a commercial break in there…
Can you imagine Ibama trying to answer those questions? “Ummmm ahhhhh IIII ummmmm……….”
She was the best thing that could have happened to our country right now. I wish the SD’s would come to their senses, grow a spine, make her the nominee and have Obama as her VP. I don’t like him, but it would unify the party. The left has seen him betray them. The majority of Dems don’t care. There’s a small minority of Dems that hate her, and they’re all lunatics, anyway. Obama is not going to change the map or draw the right wing. He can maybe cheat a victory, but he is not nearly as smart as she is.
:SIGH: I miss her so much. I swear, I feel the concern and tension over economy and national security leave me when I hear her speak.
There is a comment below the video there that says it all:
My God…what is this country thinking! Please dear God - rescue us and end this nightmare. Hillary for President 2008
heh. I like Hillary but you sad kids sure do give her a lot of worship. If you sad kids really think that she is the bestest candidate ever then you are worse than Obama’s most fawing fans.
Hillary opposed telecom immunity…. LOL and voted against it. Obviously she’s the better candidate for the Dem nomination then BOBO.
So you plan to vote for the guy that said he believes the president should be allowed to spy on anyone?
It would be funny if it weren’t so friggin pathetic.
I don’t like the vote at all but I’m not idiotic enough to try to elect a member of our authoratarian party.
I plan on voting for divided government. saw saw what happened the last time a president who totally approved of illegal wire tapping was supported by a fawning rubber stamp congress. Voting for BOBO is just voting for more of the same.
You plan on voting for your party, the GOP.
Here is a hint for you morons. Only the media believes that you are Democrats, and that’s just because they want a story.
The rest of the world looks at you the way they look at Bush. Petty, stupid people under the delusion that they are believed and liked.
Ha Ha Ha Ha you can call it what ever you want dumbass. Unless Hillary is the NOM I’m voting for McCain and straight Dem for all the other slots. Divided government is the only defense a liberal has when there isn’t a liberal on the ticket.
There it is…heehee!
Here is a hint for you Obamanation morons.
I don’t care if you believe or if you like me!
This Dem will not vote for a man who must repeatedly subvert democracy in order to win.
In fact, it is shameful that you would!
Except that all the polls show that 30% of Democrats are not supporting Ibama. And 10-15% will vote for McCain.
3 out of every 10 Dems polled do not like and will not vote for Ibama.
I guess you and Ibama will just have to get over it.
Mike — you guys are so desperate for our votes thats why you’re here. Well there are 10 Million Democratic votes that will not be cast for Obama. McCain is going to win in a landslide because the world is a dangerous place and an arrogant amateur doesn’t cut it.
You and Obama have no idea of how the economy runs. just read this article about the real tax rate if he gets what he wanted.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121728762442091427.html?mod=fpa_editors_picks
And that’s not including sales tax(which is 8.5% where I live). Did you know that dividend is the major source of income for fixed income seniors? Did you know that in some part of the country, 250k is not rich for a family(pretty good income but no rich)? When housing cost is 4-5k a month and health insurance is almost a k a month for your family, when utilities is 4-500 monthly, when gas price is 3-500 monthly, not rich at all.
250k means 20k/month with take home pay of less than 10k/month. Average home price in my city is 700k, that’s 4.5k monthly housing cost. you are lucky to have a couple thousands left after all the essential for every day live. So before you run your mouth off on economy, try to regenerate some of your brain cell.
You are all so damn cute. Look closely cutie pie. That is an opinion piece on WSJ online.
Thank GOD McCain has people like you in his corner. Retarded people are about the only people left for him.
LOO one small correction. Retarded people are about the only ones left of him.
Mike S tsk tsk — The Emperor Has No Clothes.
This is the guy you are touting here:
So please excuse me if I laugh at you for touting GHWB’s advisor.
At least this guy was honest. LOL unlike BOBO who opposed Bush’s telecom immunity package during the primaries and then voted for it once he was the presumed NOM.
Why did it matter who the adviser is? Why can you dispute the fact I stated? Why calling people name is the only argument you have? You must be one of the SO CALL EDUCATED Obama supporter who are self proclaim intelligent creatures.
LOL if the BOBOweenies didn’t call themselves intelligent, no one else would.
So you plan to vote for the guy that said he believes the president should be allowed to spy on anyone?
And trample the Constitution of the United States in the process? And your igit voted for it?
OK then BO votes for it. Mccain may favor it as well. BO has not a clue. That makes him dangerous. BO Not ever.
And skip the moron shit k? It makes the run in your stockings the talk of the town.
OBAMA SAID THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPY ON ANYONE. HE SAID BUSH HAS DONE NOTHING HE CAN BE IMPEACHED FOR. PELOSI AND REID WANT ALL THAT EXPANDED EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY FOR THE PUPPET OBAMA. NO CIVIL RIGHTS WILL BE RESTORED. NO POWER WILL BE BALANCED. THEY’RE NOT DEMOCRATS ANYMORE THAN BUSH WAS A REPUBLICAN. OBAMA, BUSH, PELOSI, DASCHLE, REID ET AL ARE CROOKS AND TRAITORS.
When you’re drowning and your choice of a lifeline is a rope or a string, you grab the rope. Hillary Clinton is a strong rope while Obama is a weak string. McCain may be a little frayed around the edges but he’s still better than that string.
And if you know a more perfect candidate being considered for Our White House, other than these three, please tell us who it is.
You didn’t even watch the video. I have been continually impressed by her grasp of policy. She has served on a corporate board. She was the valedictorian of her class. She graduated with honors from an Ivy league school. And she published a paper. Her thesis is locked up, but her first scholarly article, “Children Under the Law”, was published in the Harvard Educational Review in late 1973. It is still frequently cited in the field.
Everything Obama has tried to pass himself off as, Hillary is and no one has seen it, because she happened to have married a man who was destined to become one of the greatest Democratic Presidents of all time. WJC was up there with FDR and JFK. And HRC could have followed in that tradition, but the Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermans were let to trash this woman in some of the most offensive sexism and brutality since the Salem witch trials. Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi pushed forward agendas with enablers like Donna Brazille and John Kerry, at the expense of our country’s best interests. Obama seemed like the “package” that would serve them, a Trojan horse candidate within the Democratic party. And he is a seriously inferior candidate.
Thanks for the link…I’ll check it out…
When Bush was elected in 2000 a lot of voters thought ‘Well, he seems like a nice guy, and the country can run it itself on autopilot. He’ll have lots of smart people around him so he won’t screw up, or if he does it won’t be too bad.’ Now we know different. But there seems to be that kind of thinking among the Democratic leaders supporting Obambi; the kind that implies that as long as a Democratic president is elected, that that is the important thing because the policies are what will matter most. BALONEY!!!! We can, and will, have the best person for POTUS and the policies we need. We cannot take a chance on a potential screwup like Obambi! GO HILLARY ‘08!!!!!!!!!
Please, distribute this video of Senator Clinton on Mad Money, to everyone you know, including the Super Delegates, before the Convention, along with this article from U.S. News & World Report, “Obama-Clinton Debate in Philadelphia Spawns Weird Economics.”
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/4/17/obama-clinton-debate-in-philadelphia-spawns-weird-economics.html
“We simply cannot AFFORD another president who is getting on the job training.”
Wonder how many business owners out there would hire a guy to run his business on his behalf on this basis - “on the job training”?
How many would handover his business to a middle-aged guy, with no documented accomplishment, for a few years?
“That’s exactly right,” Obama said. “And the truth is that we’ve got a bunch of smart people, I think, who know ten times more than we do about the specifics of the topics.”
Obama himself admits he does not know 1/10th about anything he needs to know as Potus.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/microphone-pick.html
His plan: Ask people for opinions and then play “eeny meeny miney moe”.
He has no judgement to know what is right and wrong. Worse, he cannot admit when he is wrong, and his stubborn arrogance binds his soul to BAD DECISIONS.
Just like GEORGE BUSH.
I get more pissed about Ibama every day.
“Obama predicted that the surge would prove an abject failure, and it’s now clear that he was completely wrong in his analysis.”
Ibama: Judgement to Lead us all to ruin.
It sounds like we are electing advisors, not the President. But which of his 300 economic advisors are we getting? The Bushies?
Senator Obama could always tap Mr. Larry Sinclair to handle the economy after a goodnight sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom…
http://myspace.com/barackobamalarrysinclair
More and more everyday I hate the DNC/RBC/Coward Dean/the blogger boiz/anyone else who helped, for doing this to the party. Not only that but with the passage of FISA, which only passed because the Democrats made it so, Nancy and Reid could have made it impossible to even come up for a vote but put it on the fast track instead. So screw them all, not another dime, not another word of defense for the indefensible.
Cramer? You kids ARE desperate. You are simply the idiots version of the Swift Boat Liars. Except that they actually had brains.
How long before the cowards at NoBrains.com delete this comment?
“Obama predicted that the surge would prove an abject failure, and it’s now clear that he was completely wrong in his analysis.”
Ibama: Judgement to Lead us all to ruin.
You are just so darn cute. I know you Republicans don’t want people to remember but the Surge was supposed to make room for political reconsilliation. That hasn’t happened.
But keep trying little one. Maybe someone will believe you. Maybe like the dumb kids right here.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha you dummy, the surge did make room for political reconciliation.
Hey dumb ass, where is it?
Oh right, St. McCain says that was the surge too.
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Cripes, you Republican cultists are scary.
Where’s the room for political reconciliation? It’s on the street’s of Baghdad which are no longer ravaged by political violence meeted out by warring militias. LOL you are definitely one of the more retarded “smart” sounding trolls that BOBO has sent us.
Hey dumbass. The whole idea was for it to have happened by now. And guess what? It hasn’t.
By the way cutie. You sound like your boy Rummy. “We know where the wmd’s are. They are in the area around tikrit. And like him you are full of shit. You and your party got us into this mess and you have consistantly said year after year that things were better than they were.
And only the dumbest Americans believed you. That;’s why you fit in here so well/
Really dumbass? Political reconciliation was suppose to happen by now? ROFLMAO that must have been based on one of the time lines you BOBOweenies like to make up. LOL were you really that stupid that you though the streets of Baghdad would go for quite after 4 years of brutal political violence and magically the sun would come out and Mr. Bluebird would fly down on perch on your shoulder and the doe and the deer would frolic at your feet. HA HA HA HA HA HA what a maroon! It’s gong to take a little longer then that for the people of Iraq to build the kind of trust needed to make the reconciliation happen. Luckily the surge has made the room. But it appears we are going to need fellows with stronger stuff than you BOBOweenies to see it to it’s conclusion.
Keep trying. Someone other than these cultists might believe you one day.
LOL from my experience it’s the cultists that don’t believe what I say.
Stop calling people dumbass unless you have an IQ higher than mine(138). You don’t know jack about Iraq, and you don’t know jack about military(when did you serve this country?) and you don’t know jack about anything outside of this country. I bet you have never go anywhere in you life with the exception of EU. So stop running you foul mouth.
If Obama is as bad as Mccain, then we should all vote for Maccain since he won the experience debate. If Obama is not the post politic politician that he claim, then Mccain should get the vote.
Obama trick people with his Change scam to get rid of HRC, so we are let with the choice of a Mccain with a track record, or the Obama who’s just as bad as Mccain without a track record and keep piling up lies everyday. Who do you think is the better choice?
By the way, what do you know about Iraqis? What do you know about corrupted politician in third world countries? Do you know how much each vote is worth in poor countries when all you care about is food, roof and warm?
I agree with you completely. (BTW, my measured IQ is 157.) Mike knows insults, and he knows Obama-worship. Not a whole lot else.
Boy, I sure wish I had a dollar for every time I see someone on the net claim to have a genius-level IQ. I think I must have already encountered more geniuses than I thought we had in the whole country.
I hope all of you are working on nuclear fusion or something of great importance to mankind.
Mike, you’re a fucking idiot. Nearly every single one of the “benchmarks” that had been set to measure “political reconciliation” in Iraq has now been met. As much as it might gall the anti-war types to admit it, the surge was a spectacular success. The evidence is indisputable and only a fool would now argue otherwise. I suggest that you might want to pull your head out of your ass and actually read the news out of Iraq every now & again.
“Spectacular success.”
You make the Moonies look like normal people. Even Patreus doesn’t call it that.
But thanks again for showing just how much of a GOP cult site this is.
so you’re a moonie? That’s not entirely surprising considering you support BOBO.
OH SNAPPPPP!!!!!
Good night cultists. It warms my heart to know that you are tyhe saddest, dumbest people in this country. With supporters like you no wonder Hillary lost and McCain is going dpown in flames.
Have fun on the short bus.
ROFLMAO Flee little BOBOweenie….Fleeeeeeeee
They can’t seem to argue issues. The only thing they are good at is insulting people. Of course they have to run when their talking point run out.
This campaign ceased to be about issues when all the cool aid drinking BOBOweenies saw those imaginary New Hampshire tears. Ever since then it’s been only about their faith in THE ONE no matter what BOBO says or does. That’s the problem with faith. It’s constructed entirely out of talking points. So that’s really all we can expect from the BOBOweenies from here on out.
Forgot one thing. Faith on the extremes is buttressed by extremes of emotion. The BOBOweenies exhibit the same kinds of emotional extremes that the rabid evangelic showed us. But then fringe, is fringe, is fringe.
Good point. But still need to inform new visitors of the fact when this Obama supporters try to miss lead people.
Good troll hunting WildChild!
That one must of been the runt of the litter.
It warms my heart when Obama throws more of the ‘dumbest’ supporters in history under the bus and backs over them a couple of times each day.
And a dead heat in the polls isn’t going down in flames…oh ‘dumb’ one.
Didn’t you hear what DanR said!
Spectacular success!
I will add to your chagrin,
The Iraq war will in fact be considered
The Brilliant Strategy
“Even Patreus doesn’t call it that.”
That is because the Military Jargon does not include the word “Spectacular”.
The word Patreus used is “Outstanding”.
I guess you don’t actually read the news and polls. Everyone knows that the “KIDS” are supporting Ibama, and the “ADULTS” are supporting Hillary and McCain.
There’s only two Illegal’s in the world who don’t know that, and they were just deported.
You’re cute too. McCain only leads in the 60 and over group.
Cripes, you GOP cultists are stupid.
Is this THE NEW POLITICS OF OBLOWME?
Can’t ya feel the love?
The Unity Pony is so magical.
Hey Mike….The crowd you fascists would love to Soylent Green aint’ gonna let Barry Queen of Snots get to the WH….Seek therapy
While Obama leads in the under 60 … months … crowd.
I know how to spell reconciliation, and it was happening through the efforts of General Casey and the Sunni leadership. The surge worked to reduce violence. The Anbar awakening came be