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	<title>Comments on: Is O/K a Double-Down? Degrees of slippery-ness and Bushness, 25 minutes I&#8217;ll not get back and other stuff</title>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you mentioned that. The Selma, Al. speech had to have been effort for him given he has never lived in the South. The drawl is common to both races and is entirely different from Northern States. MLK is a perfect example. Even when he raised his voice in speeches, you could hear that soft southern part underneath. His voice was so powerful, it mesmerized. Obama has stolen a lot from that great, dignified man, but no matter how he tries, he can&#039;t duplicate the timbre of his voice. In my memory, MLK never mocked anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you mentioned that. The Selma, Al. speech had to have been effort for him given he has never lived in the South. The drawl is common to both races and is entirely different from Northern States. MLK is a perfect example. Even when he raised his voice in speeches, you could hear that soft southern part underneath. His voice was so powerful, it mesmerized. Obama has stolen a lot from that great, dignified man, but no matter how he tries, he can&#8217;t duplicate the timbre of his voice. In my memory, MLK never mocked anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the roundup format.  Item 1. VP.. talkleft has an interesting proposition... Kaine is a deflection.  A gay-bashing pro-lifer is so repulsive, Clinton resisters will settle for anyone (at TL-Sebelius).  2. How can one separate the person from the persona?  The guy is nothing more than a media product.  I think of him as the IPOD I just bought.  The LCD screen blew up in less than 30 days and I can&#039;t get my money back.  item 3.  Like Bush?  They are just figuring this out?  Morons.  Item 4.  Some of those contractors are Iraqis.  Jobs are needed, and serve to keep fighting down.  So is he going to pull contracts out? Os corporate buddies aren&#039;t going to like hearing their contracts are being pulled out of Iraq unless O guarantees they are getting money out of Afghanistan.  Item 5. O sees some were frustrated by the sexism... yawn.  Item 6.  Of course he has a problem with women... which goes back to item  #1: is manipulating women with the threat of Kaine going to work?  Will they heave a sigh of relief at another VP option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the roundup format.  Item 1. VP.. talkleft has an interesting proposition&#8230; Kaine is a deflection.  A gay-bashing pro-lifer is so repulsive, Clinton resisters will settle for anyone (at TL-Sebelius).  2. How can one separate the person from the persona?  The guy is nothing more than a media product.  I think of him as the IPOD I just bought.  The LCD screen blew up in less than 30 days and I can&#8217;t get my money back.  item 3.  Like Bush?  They are just figuring this out?  Morons.  Item 4.  Some of those contractors are Iraqis.  Jobs are needed, and serve to keep fighting down.  So is he going to pull contracts out? Os corporate buddies aren&#8217;t going to like hearing their contracts are being pulled out of Iraq unless O guarantees they are getting money out of Afghanistan.  Item 5. O sees some were frustrated by the sexism&#8230; yawn.  Item 6.  Of course he has a problem with women&#8230; which goes back to item  #1: is manipulating women with the threat of Kaine going to work?  Will they heave a sigh of relief at another VP option?</p>
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		<title>By: CognitiveDissonance</title>
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		<dc:creator>CognitiveDissonance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been wondering this, too. If he was born before 1959, that was before Hawaii was a state. Does that make him a citizen or really complicate things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering this, too. If he was born before 1959, that was before Hawaii was a state. Does that make him a citizen or really complicate things?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean, LizfromFL. I saw Morris saying the same thing on TV and found myself screaming at the TV. These idiot pundits don&#039;t seem to get that this is a feminism issue. But maybe they just haven&#039;t come to terms with the fact that Obama has single-handedly managed to reopen the feminism box again. Hey, maybe he can add that to his resume. God knows, it needs some padding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean, LizfromFL. I saw Morris saying the same thing on TV and found myself screaming at the TV. These idiot pundits don&#8217;t seem to get that this is a feminism issue. But maybe they just haven&#8217;t come to terms with the fact that Obama has single-handedly managed to reopen the feminism box again. Hey, maybe he can add that to his resume. God knows, it needs some padding.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got an e-mail from VoteforBoth saying that Obama has given Hillary the keynote speech at the convention. The e-mail goes on to say that this decision indicates that she has been eliminated from veep consideration.

I didn&#039;t really want her to take the veep position, anyway, but I did notice a big red hand print across my cheek this morning. Anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got an e-mail from VoteforBoth saying that Obama has given Hillary the keynote speech at the convention. The e-mail goes on to say that this decision indicates that she has been eliminated from veep consideration.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really want her to take the veep position, anyway, but I did notice a big red hand print across my cheek this morning. Anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points!

LOL...the vapors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points!</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;the vapors.</p>
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		<title>By: imustprotest</title>
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		<dc:creator>imustprotest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the MSM is going along promoting it.  I saw headlines today about the McCain ad showing Obama among his fawning fans.  The MSM reported this as &quot;an attack ad&quot;....geez I thought the ad was going easy on him, too easy.  Next they&#039;ll say that McCain is &quot;throwing the kitchen sink at him&quot;  HORRORS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the MSM is going along promoting it.  I saw headlines today about the McCain ad showing Obama among his fawning fans.  The MSM reported this as &#8220;an attack ad&#8221;&#8230;.geez I thought the ad was going easy on him, too easy.  Next they&#8217;ll say that McCain is &#8220;throwing the kitchen sink at him&#8221;  HORRORS!</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also likes to cozy up to &quot;common folk&quot; by dropping a few &quot;g&#039;s&quot; at the end of words (when convenient and/or appropriate to the occasion) so that he doesn&#039;t appear so Harvardian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also likes to cozy up to &#8220;common folk&#8221; by dropping a few &#8220;g&#8217;s&#8221; at the end of words (when convenient and/or appropriate to the occasion) so that he doesn&#8217;t appear so Harvardian.</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also likes to make like he&#039;s &quot;common folk&quot; by dropping &quot;g&#039;s&quot; at the end of words (when convenient and/or appropriate to the occasion)- for example:

comin&#039;
seein&#039;
eatin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also likes to make like he&#8217;s &#8220;common folk&#8221; by dropping &#8220;g&#8217;s&#8221; at the end of words (when convenient and/or appropriate to the occasion)- for example:</p>
<p>comin&#8217;<br />
seein&#8217;<br />
eatin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: hootnannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>hootnannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Biden would take the veep slot just to help out the first black Prez candidate, huh?  Hmmmm.  I guess it wouldn&#039;t matter if that person were Ludacris or Michael Vick or whoever.  And the Dems expect thinking people to vote for an affirmative-action candidate who is marginally qualified and 
associates with whitey-haters and terrorists.  Joe, what you said is a racist statement, in my opinion.  It&#039;s like you can accept anything from BO simply because he&#039;s black--or, worse yet, what can you expect from a black person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Biden would take the veep slot just to help out the first black Prez candidate, huh?  Hmmmm.  I guess it wouldn&#8217;t matter if that person were Ludacris or Michael Vick or whoever.  And the Dems expect thinking people to vote for an affirmative-action candidate who is marginally qualified and<br />
associates with whitey-haters and terrorists.  Joe, what you said is a racist statement, in my opinion.  It&#8217;s like you can accept anything from BO simply because he&#8217;s black&#8211;or, worse yet, what can you expect from a black person!</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that McCain is receiving the Hillary treatment from BO i.e. he&#039;s &quot;losing his bearings&quot; etc. -- one more reason to vote McCain.  I sincerely do not believe that he will carry the country to the far right. No telling what Obama would do anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that McCain is receiving the Hillary treatment from BO i.e. he&#8217;s &#8220;losing his bearings&#8221; etc. &#8212; one more reason to vote McCain.  I sincerely do not believe that he will carry the country to the far right. No telling what Obama would do anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Geraldine Ferraro was really onto something when she saw early on the BO was using his race as a shield against criticism.  Heaven help us if he gets to the White House and doesn&#039;t need to answer the hard questions either because the press is still in the tank or because his followers will yell &quot;Racism&quot; at every turn.

By the way, I have visited black churches and have never seen the type of rhetoric that occurred in Wright&#039;s church.  Most black churches are spirited and raucous but their message is generally uplifting and often centers on Positive Thinking rather than victim-hood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Geraldine Ferraro was really onto something when she saw early on the BO was using his race as a shield against criticism.  Heaven help us if he gets to the White House and doesn&#8217;t need to answer the hard questions either because the press is still in the tank or because his followers will yell &#8220;Racism&#8221; at every turn.</p>
<p>By the way, I have visited black churches and have never seen the type of rhetoric that occurred in Wright&#8217;s church.  Most black churches are spirited and raucous but their message is generally uplifting and often centers on Positive Thinking rather than victim-hood.</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any woman nominated to VP, other than Hillary would be seen as a huge slap in the face to her and all women and would work against Obie.

Further, I know plenty -- and I mean plenty -- of men, 40 and over, who will under no circumstances vote for Obama.  They are all quite comfortable voting for McCain if the SDs don&#039;t wake up from their koolaid induced stupor and nominate Hillary at the Convention.

I also know many women, needless to say -- of all ages, who will under no circumstances vote for Obama.  The comments I have been getting from them for months:  &quot;There&#039;s no &#039;there&#039; there&quot; has not changed.  But now to their feeling that he is empty, a more disturbing one has been added -- that he is two-faced and dangerous and a misogynist and a homophobe.

Guess what -- he is not going to win any of these people back.  This is not one faux pas we are talking about.  Their opinions have been solidified by months of watching this man perform poorly in debates, lie, flip-flop on critical policies.

The Democratic party is in real trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any woman nominated to VP, other than Hillary would be seen as a huge slap in the face to her and all women and would work against Obie.</p>
<p>Further, I know plenty &#8212; and I mean plenty &#8212; of men, 40 and over, who will under no circumstances vote for Obama.  They are all quite comfortable voting for McCain if the SDs don&#8217;t wake up from their koolaid induced stupor and nominate Hillary at the Convention.</p>
<p>I also know many women, needless to say &#8212; of all ages, who will under no circumstances vote for Obama.  The comments I have been getting from them for months:  &#8220;There&#8217;s no &#8216;there&#8217; there&#8221; has not changed.  But now to their feeling that he is empty, a more disturbing one has been added &#8212; that he is two-faced and dangerous and a misogynist and a homophobe.</p>
<p>Guess what &#8212; he is not going to win any of these people back.  This is not one faux pas we are talking about.  Their opinions have been solidified by months of watching this man perform poorly in debates, lie, flip-flop on critical policies.</p>
<p>The Democratic party is in real trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there was no political risk to make that speech because he was speaking to a group of sympathetic left wingers at the time.  If he were in the Senate, he might have acted differently.  So the speech versus a vote is like apples and oranges.

I just bet he would have voted &quot;present&quot; on the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there was no political risk to make that speech because he was speaking to a group of sympathetic left wingers at the time.  If he were in the Senate, he might have acted differently.  So the speech versus a vote is like apples and oranges.</p>
<p>I just bet he would have voted &#8220;present&#8221; on the war.</p>
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		<title>By: DAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree -- his train of thought seems to wander all over the place and I am left thinking, &quot;huh?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8212; his train of thought seems to wander all over the place and I am left thinking, &#8220;huh?&#8221;</p>
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