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Polls and Race-Bait Fallout

1) From a new Rasmussen Poll out yesterday:
30% of Conservative Democrats Say They’ll Vote for McCain

Gallup had the race tied.

2) Obama is finally asked about the charge of race-baiting.

The Tampa Bay News and St. Petersburg Times interviewed Obama and he had this to say:

“I was in union, Missouri which is 98 percent white – a rural, conservative. and what I said was what I think everybody knows, which is that I don’t look like I came out of central casting when it comes to presidential candidates.
——————–

‘There was nobody there who thought at all that I was trying to inject race in this.

Nobody? Hmmmm. Seems like all the discussion on the ‘net, on tv and radio might just suggest otherwise.

Read the rest ->

3) Jennifer Rubin, at Commentary, seems to think we’ve reached a tipping point in race-baiting politics, at least as practiced by the Obama campaign.

One of the downsides of living in the bubble of the MSM and the warm embrace of most of the punditocracy is that you think everyone buys what you are selling, or at the very least is too polite to mention that you are making a fool of yourself. When the McCain camp called Barack Obama out for playing the race card, I imagine the Obama camp was stunned. But by the end of the day on Thursday it became apparent that Obama’s gambit was failing, and creating far more problems than the Obama team anticipated.

Obama’s Bill Burton tried to take back the race card. (But whoops– not in sufficient time to prevent the New York Times from looking foolish. Yes, yes you have to get up very early in the day to do that.) When The New Republic calls Obama’s move a “blunder” and the Hardball panel unanimously calls out Obama, it’s time to fold your hand.

After saying that playing the victim isn’t working and all the policy shifts have left a bad taste in voters’ mouths, Jennifer attempts to analyze what is going on:

Why isn’t it working? What’s wrong? You can imagine Hillary Clinton and her supporters banging their heads on their desks and emailing one another (”We told them!” “No one believed us!”) Time it appears has not been Obama’s friend. It has given more and more people time to think and discover that there may not be much behind the grand rhetoric. Others have figured out the degree to which Obama has concealed, evaded and fudged in setting out his political views. What does he believe? It’s unnerving to know so little and to realize he is perhaps the least forthright candidate in recent memory.

But she ends by saying the McCain campaign shouldn’t be too happy just yet.

3) Ward Connerly reminds us of Obama’s statements regarding affirmative action. Connerly, as you may know, has long been working to prohibit preferences through a consitituational amendment, and McCain recently came out in favor of Connerly’s position. During a campaign stop at the journalists of color convention, Obama expressed his “disappointment” in McCain’s position and mentioned Connerly by name. The following is part of Connerly’s response at TNR.

Also, it seems that Obama is divided against himself on the issue. In his famed “race speech,” when he was trying to appeal to white Democrats to get the issue of Jeremiah Wright off his back, he acknowledged that affirmative action engenders resentment. Just a few days ago, Obama suggested he was ready to support class-based instead of race-based affirmative action: “I am a strong supporter of affirmative action when properly structured so that it is not just a quota, but it is acknowledging and taking into account some of the hardships and difficulties that communities of color may have experienced, continue to experience, and it also speaks to the value of diversity in all walks of American life. We are becoming a more diverse culture, and it’s something that has to be acknowledged.”

I concur, but I might define “properly structured” differently than Obama does. What he fails to say is that it is not only “communities of color” that experience hardships and difficulties. Nor does he say how, as president, he can achieve his stated goal of uniting the American people while asking those not “of color” to look the other way when discriminated against.

If Obama is truly concerned about divisiveness, why didn’t he speak out when his foot soldiers at ACORN were taking pride in blocking our petition circulators from gathering signatures in Missouri? Their despicable tactics of harassment give new meaning to the term “divisive.”

Agree or not with Connerly, it does seem Obama has said different things about preferences. Where he will actually fall is anyone’s guess, but it’s good to remember the famous “race speech” was a necessary one in response to the Rev. Wright fiasco.

4) Saturday’s NYT isn’t at all sure Obama even realizes he’s injecting race into the campaign. After making the statement to FL papers mentioned above, the NYT apparently decided to figure out whether or not Obama meant to race-bait. It called his response to McCain’s charge “muted.”

The muted response should not be taken, even campaign insiders acknowledged, to reflect high-mindedness; the Obama campaign can wield a rhetorical gutting knife. There simply was no percentage for the first black major-party presidential candidate in the nation’s history to draw too much attention to his race, much less get into a shooting war with the Republicans over the combustible issue.

“For our part, there is no stake in abetting that strategy,” Mr. Axelrod said. “The best we could do is call this and move on.”

The paper does go on to say that Obama:

. . .tends to back into his attacks. So he cues up Mr. McCain as “an honorable man”
and a “war hero,” before skewering him as lacking in ideas.

But what about Obama’s race-baiting during speeches? Well, that’s not it at all.

Still, the candidate has the peculiar habit of rehearsing his faults for listeners, apparently in an effort to inoculate himself against attacks. And that could be how Mr. Obama got himself tangled up in race.

Got tangled up? Well, then the NYT goes on to say how this SHOULD have worked and how Obama bungled it.

The candidate and Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, traveled this week around the Republican precincts of rural Missouri. Ms. McCaskill tried to set minds at ease by recalling an “old Ozark habit” of saying “they say,” as in, they say he’s too young, they say he’s not the right color.

So far, so politically artful; she never specified Republicans, much less Mr. McCain.

But when Mr. Obama traveled this rhetorical ground, he tripped. “So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Mr. Obama said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough. He’s got a funny name. You know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills.”

Even some Republicans are not convinced that Mr. Obama intended to accuse Mr. McCain of racism, as there’s no percentage for him. Mr. McCain talks of himself as experienced but never, ever, old; Mr. Obama talks of change but charily of his status as a historic first.

So, the race-baiting is really inartful bungling by a super-smart AA of a line a typical white person could deliver without a problem. Interesting. Do you buy this? I don’t. If this were the first time Obama tried this line, I’d be more inclined to agree with the NYT. However, this “funny name” , “looks different” refrain is an old one, as HRC supporters can attest.

Perhaps this strategy is finally played out and the campaign knows it and is kicking it under the bus. Or perhaps this story is just notice that we can expect “inartful bungling” of race issues from Obama until. . . Until when???

6) Paired with the above NYT article is a column by Bob Herbert. A screed against the McCain “celebrity ad,” for Herbert it’s all about race.

Both ads were foul, poisonous and emanated from the upper reaches of the Republican Party. (What a surprise.) Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The racial fantasy factor in this presidential campaign is out of control. It was at work in that New Yorker cover that caused such a stir. (Mr. Obama in Muslim garb with the American flag burning in the fireplace.) It’s driving the idea that Barack Obama is somehow presumptuous, too arrogant, too big for his britches — a man who obviously does not know his place.

Mr. Obama has to endure these grotesque insults with a smile and heroic levels of equanimity. The reason he has to do this — the sole reason — is that he is black.

One of the most nauseating aspects of all this race-baiting is that it is so hypocritical coming from the Obama camp. After all, it was THAT campaign that not-so-subtly suggested that HRC had “ups and downs” when she would “periodically” lash out – a misogynist attack among several against her.

Not so? Well, I call bs on that. If you can discern subtle racial attacks in every person opposing you, then you damn well know when you engage in it yourself. Seems to me if putting a picture of a vacuous celebrity next to Obama is offensive, so should a wink-wink finger scratch on the face where the audience screams in approval. So should a statement about how to beat a female candidate in a post-OJ era.

Once again, a playground aphorism is the best : He who smelt it, dealt it.

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Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 09:51:41

Everyone knew the GOP would call out the uselss candidate on his oly form of attack, race baiting.

It is too bad HRC wasn’t as able during the primaries due to Party politics, because Obama would be toast right now.

Sounds like time for Obama to give ANOTHER major speech, so what bands are available to bring in the crowds for the pathological lying messiah?

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:02:55

Sounds like time for Obama to give ANOTHER major speech, so what bands are available to bring in the crowds for the pathological lying messiah?

Isn’t the American Idol Tour going on right now? He’d fit right in with one of their performances.

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:09:55

Why wasn’t Hillary able to call out race baiting attacks? Are you saying Democrats condone race baiting? Or is it more likely that Hillary and Bill were injecting race into the campaign themselves?

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 10:15:06

Your questions are not even worth responding to troll, but nice try on the Saul Alinsky method of switch-a-rooing for self gain, but your ignorance is obvious as can be!

 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-02 10:17:53

When Obama went to South Carolina and started using the favorite words of Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X, HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZELED and OKIE-DOKE, to let the black folks know that he was “Black Enough”. This went right over the head of White Folks and the MSM wouldn’t say Sh*t if they had a mouthful. The DEMS and the DNC didn’t say anything, Obama was their boy, he can do no wrong, he is THE ONE!

Comment by David A. Is That You Trolling? | 2008-08-02 10:34:29

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-02 10:17:53

When Obama went to South Carolina and started using the favorite words of Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X, HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZELED and OKIE-DOKE, to let the black folks know that he was “Black Enough”. This went right over the head of White Folks and the MSM wouldn’t say Sh*t if they had a mouthful. The DEMS and the DNC didn’t say anything, Obama was their boy, he can do no wrong, he is THE ONE!

If you know anything about public presentations and speech communication, the first thing to understand is to know your audience and speak in language (jargon) that is used by your audience. So, now we are to rewrite public presentation manuals because of Obama.

How about Obama changing his accent and using certain words depending on his audience? When he talks about “Kansas” and “traditional values,” is that to let the white folks know that he is “White Enough”?

This is ridiculous and a good reason why Obama should lose. This type of thought control and social engineering doesn’t unify people; it separates them.

 
 

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 10:22:28

Obama’s campaign began this year with a win in Iowa and Jesse Jackson, Jr.’s statement to the Washington Post (Junior is Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair):

“The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman?”

This statement is just the tip of the iceberg of a series of race baiting (and sexist statements) made by Obama and him minions.

Can you identify equivalent race baiting by the Clintons?

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:30:38

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

Dick Morris has also said repeatedly that it was the Clinton campaign that tried to lose SC big so that it would show the public that Obama is really the black candidate.

Of course as we now know in hindsight, these tactics didn’t work.

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:34:49

You can slice that cattle flop all you want but it is still bullsh*t.

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:38:07

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

??????
Please give us evidence of this. I honestly can’t imagine Bill or Hillary using the expression “crack dealer” in any kind of public forum. The Clintons are too politically saavy for that.

Dick Morris has also said repeatedly that it was the Clinton campaign that tried to lose SC big so that it would show the public that Obama is really the black candidate.

Sorry, but I consider anything Morris has to say about the Clintons sour grapes.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:11:42

The Clintons tried to protray Obama as a crack dealer. They repeatedly brought up the issue until the people have had enough.

That came from Shaheen in NH referring to Obama’s cocaine use which O wrote about in his book. The Clintons QUICKLY got rid of Shaheen from the campaign.

 
 

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 10:45:38

Your first allegation is beyond merit. Provide evidence of your statement.

Dick Morris hates the Clintons. Morris had to resign from the Clinton Administration after it was reported he was involved with a prostitute. He has hated the Clintons ever since. He obviously has a vendetta against the Clintons.

You will have to provide better evidence and a source than Dick Morris.

Study history and logic before attempting to make a persuasive argument.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/morris.htm

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:50:37

His novel was quite articulate about his drug use. Fair game.

 

Comment by Flforexperience | 2008-08-02 11:00:20

Dick Morris hates the Clintons ever since they stopped asking for his advice during Bill Clinton’s presidency. It was probably a mistake to ever ask for his advice, but the Congress was heavily Republican at the time. It is exceedingly apparent on Fox. Hillary Clinton never said anything about Barack Obama and drug use. Barack Obama spoke about his use of “blow” in his Dreams of my Father book. There is no way she would deliberately want to lose SC.

 

Comment by Donna Brazile | 2008-08-02 11:03:01

The desparation in your illogical argument is astoundingly funny.

I am concerned that you may have a neurological problem that needs immediate medical attention.

But thanks for the good laugh.

Dick Morris– LMAO– you mean the one Clinton fired. ROTFLMAO.

Stop the hate.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:27:18

Sometimes I think you must come from another world to use such twisted logic as “the Clinton campaigned planned to lose SC big.” Now really. Really. Do people put in all this effort to lose? No, they don’t.

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-08-02 12:48:35

Dick Morris? You take your talking points from Dick Morris?? Your even more foolish and gullible than I though “freedom fighter”.

 

Comment by Kat5 | 2008-08-02 12:50:58

Ah, Freedom Fighter. Sounds like all the halfway decent names were already taken at Obot HQ. You make Saran wrap look positively opaque.

 

Comment by ParkSlopeVoter | 2008-08-02 13:43:57

Hey, freedom,

Go eat shit and die… Thanks!

-MS

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 13:47:15

Obama as a crack dealer. He is not street smart enough to be slaggin.

He is a consumer of mass quantities of indifference.

 
 
 

Comment by Leisa | 2008-08-02 10:28:02

FF,

You are an idiot. No more needs to be said about your convoluted and twisted way of thinking.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:32:35

Because the RACE BAITING has been started, carried out and masterminded by the OBAMA CAMPAIGN !!!

Now go back to the hole you came from.

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-02 12:36:51

Don’t be dumb. It is because it was democrat against democrat and she couldn’t make the one look too bad just in case he’d be the nominee. The Republicans do not care at all about slaughtering the stupid fool Obarfy! It doesn’t hurt them at all.

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-02 15:47:36

Which is one of the major reasons I am supporting the Republicans and John McCain this year. I want the truth about Nobama to be heard by All Americans..and then if they elect him…well then I guess Americans want to be the New Europe…but I don’t think they do…Nobama’s membership at TUCC confirmed to me that Nobama is a racist and uses his Black skin color when it advances his own political gain…It also rallies all his Black Racist Supporters…they love it..

 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:46:44

No we’re saying that Democrats are so hung up on PC, they take this kind of shit and Obama knew they would.

For God’s sakes, we have Honor murders going on in this country and the left left left wing of my party wants to excuse it as “cultural”.

Nuff said.

 

Comment by mary | 2008-08-03 19:44:48

Hillary and Bill were victimized by the Axlord Obama dirty Chicago sewer politicking using the RACE BAITING CARD–same way they tried to do it with McCain. It didn’t stick. Why? Because as the McCain campain person said himself they “learned their lesson from the way Pres. Clinton was disrespectfully treated during the primaries.”

The Repugs have to thank Pres. Clinton for their successfully throwing the punches back at the Obama dirty rats!

GO PUMAS, ROAR!

NoBama ‘08

 
 

Comment by scott in jupiter | 2008-08-02 10:12:57

He’s got Springsteen I’m sure a free concert in Central Park would bring them out.

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 12:47:03

He has Striseind too, that is Barbra

 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:19:12

Exactly Mel. It won’t work anymore, too many times of crying “wolf”, and truly very few care to hear it. It doesn’t help anyone, if anything it really causes further problems for race relations, no one likes to be falsely accused of anything. Having caused a rift in the Democratic party because of allowing this, and labeling one half of the party because they disagree with one candidate is going to hurt all the way through to election day, and will not easily be forgotten.

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-08-02 11:09:57

Hillary had to fight Obama’s racebaiting with hands tied behind her back — his campaign with media being complicit and an amplifier used every dirty trick and twisted everything both Clintons’ said without regard to the fact that they were of their own party and one of them was a successful 2-term president. Given their stature, Clintons could not go after this imbecile in an all out brawl and make it worse — it would have been that because it was Obama and the media against these people and one incendiary topic like race and myths like Hillary will do anything to win (in the end she was the one who ran a principled race based on issues with the general population and their well being in mind by being restrained on race and sexism both of which were used by Obama and the media to ill effects on the society in general). Frankly, I think everybody was stunned that Obama could do this to his own party candidate. This has been Axelrod’s MO in other races as well, see NY mayor’s race during the primary, I think it was Green vs. Ferrer. Unfortunately for Obama and Axelrod, republicans are smarter and they have watched the primary and know the bag of dirty tricks coming out of Obama.

 

Comment by JustSayin | 2008-08-02 12:47:08

McCain ad from June and July mocks Obama’s image on the 100 dollar bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU&eurl

Comment by JustSayin | 2008-08-02 12:48:57

Obama’s comment was that he may not look like the Presidents we know from dollar bills. McCain ran an ad poking fun at just that. Race baiting? McCain’s campaign needs to chill.

 
 
 

Comment by carol | 2008-08-02 09:53:57

Obama – liar and racist.

We all know it. He needs to stop pretending that is not what he meant.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:32:38

If Obama thinks its about his “looks” he is being totally delusional. He is simply not what America NEEDS or wants in the white house at this crucial moment in time.

The kids want him cause he’s young. Young and inexperience might be fine for the celeb wannabees, but it is not fine for POTUS.

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:08:38

Personally, I want him in the Oval Office because he’s proven again and again that he’s unflappable and has good judgment. His opponent, Jackass John, has proven over and over again that he’s a corrupt, lying, hot-tempered sack of shit.

At any rate, this blog used to be funny. The blatant racism, the sour grapes, the way that Republican plants intermingled with delusional Hillary supporters. Now it’s just sad.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:14:44

Good Judgement?? Troll, you can’t be serious about that. Man their must be meth in that koolaid. LMAO!

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:28:30

Your response, coming as it is from a blog of alleged Hillary supporters who now seem to be supporting John McCain, a man who is in favor of all those things Hillary opposes and vice versa, shall be taken for what it is worth.

And I’m not trolling so much as commenting on how sad it is when a small group of people self-segregate and begin to think that their view is even approaching the mainstream, desperately clinging to any odd scrap of information that supports this view. See “Gallup says the race is tied” above, while any idiot can look at an electoral map and see that, at the moment, Obama wins the electoral college 336-202.

But no, what we have here is a people so convinced of their own, very minority worldview, that they are willing to vote for a guy whose economic policy was written by Phil Gramm, for God’s sake, to avoid admitting that maybe the other guy who agrees with the former candidate they claim to support, could possibly be right. But, you know, good for you. At least you’re not blowing up schools.

I guess.

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-08-02 13:50:05

It’s Oblowme’s anti-American terrorist friends that bomb American places Ass.

Illinois Combine Comrades visit Columbine =
DNC ‘08 Convention

Peddle your Foolaide by Oblowme’s new offshore drilling.

 

Comment by Ferdberfle | 2008-08-02 13:55:54

At least you’re not blowing up schools.

Droll, troll.

At least you’re not breeding while you’re here posting your drivel. You can go now, dud.

 
 
 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-08-02 11:22:47

Actually it is your post that is funny. Do you realize you are making a complete fool of yourself?

Comment by Ash | 2008-08-02 11:32:11

I think the response “Could be, but at least I’m not voting for McCain” is very valid on this blog.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 11:51:39

It’s not John McCain’s fault that Obama can’t close the sale. Senator Britney couldn’t even close the deal in his own party’s primary, have you forgotten that bit of trivia?

 
 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:33:03

 

Comment by MEchelle Hates America! | 2008-08-02 11:38:03

Yeah, those stories about the war are a regular laugh riot…

More insight into the the mind of an Oblowme fan.

 

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-08-02 12:41:50

Oh, my God! Did you really say that? Incredible! If that fool had any good judgement, he would have dropped out of the primary to back Clinton (the one more likely to win the Whitehouse), vied for VP on her ticket, gained some experience and possibly a backbone and some stances and then ran for POTUS after her. A 16 year Democratic rule that I was really expecting, as opposed to no, we’re Barack Obama and the loser DNC and we’d rather risk having a 0 year democratic Whitehouse. That is poor judgement all around! I mean Geezus, the guy would have only been 52 years old!

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-08-02 12:55:46

I have to say, I think BO is the most ‘flappable’ person in public life – if he’s off the teleprompter he’s either not making sense or race-baiting. Those are his 3 main means of communication — teleprompter, incoherence and playing the victim of mean, old racist America.

He’s also very flip-floppy…every day he gets up goes outside, sticks his finger to the political wind…and follows it wherever it leads. He doesn’t believe in anything (apart from his own ‘greatness’) so it’s easy for him.

 
 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 13:02:51

No, he is not young, inexperienced but not young. Juvenile, yes but not young, some would even call him infantile…. He panders to the young, some would even say preys on the young. He lets them know, “hey I dig drugs too. I can do street moves and I let my kids listen to nasty songs, and I have an ipod loaded with rap.” He is buying votes with concerts that target the young… footage at 11:00, means free ads. He is a user, user, user and only wanna be young and king of the world…

 
 

Comment by Jim S | 2008-08-02 10:57:39

Interesting article reqarding Bambi ib ==n the 90’s. He was a racist then and he;s a racist now.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 16:34:37

It was an interesting, irony is the more effort that went in to “anti-profiling” efforts on BO’s part the deeper he went into the BLT and the web of south side politics.
—-
Just so you know, apparently NEW RULZ from HLS;anyone crossing into or out of a US border mayhave their laptop or other electronic devices copied and or impounded “for a reasonable period of time”. Better get your pen usb sticks while you can.

Cofer Black is now the head of Blackwater Intel; a coroporate mirror of government responsibilites. It is official; BO loves FISA. WE THE PEOPLE?

 
 
 

Comment by JKFriz | 2008-08-02 09:56:09

I think that the “periodically” dead horse has been beaten so badly it’s almost unrecognizable. Really, no one’s willing to acknowledge even a slight possibility that “periodically” means “every now and then”?

Criticisms like these do nothing but demean some of your other, more valid critiques.

Comment by no waffles aka drkate | 2008-08-02 10:05:15

it is a subtlety apparently you don’t understand. But women do hear this and Obama is a sexist as well as a racist. What about the rap songs he loves calling HRC a B****?

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-02 15:55:31

Oh I remember his 99 problems but the B*tch wasn’t one of them…hmmm the Republicans and women over 40 must have been those 99 problems…

 
 

Comment by Mary Lou | 2008-08-02 10:08:27

Axlerod helps Obama CHOOSE his words every bit as carefully as Rove helped Bush CHOOSE his. You can believe periodically was one of those well chosen words.
The goal is to raise questions about the fitness of the opponent, but in a kind of “vague” way, not clear or specific enough to be challenged.
Thank heavens more people seem to be noticing when they are being played.

 

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:15:20

Whatever troll, you’re just a troll trying to incite this blog. Who cares what a troll says.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:53:04

Sorry but the cialis crowd doesn’t have a boner to pick with this …. women got it.

 

Comment by steven Mather | 2008-08-02 14:21:46

JKFriz,

You are wrong and I have some data to prove that you are wrong.

Let me start by saying that Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. He knows that words matter and he knows what they mean.

I am a Ph.D. student, with a background in qualitative and quantitative research. I showed a 30 second excerpt of the tape to a sample population of 30 Canadian adults who were not well-informed about the US primaries. The sample was selected by convenience among staff members at a technical institute and coffee shop goers in a small rural community.

They were provided with no advance knowledge of the content or context of the tape. Each viewed the tape twice before comments were allowed. 26 out of 30 of the respondents said that Obama was commenting on Hillary having PMS.

That 26 out of the 30 adults I surveyed say that the comments refer to Hillary having PMS is a pretty good indicator that reasonable people disagree with you about what counts as a good critique, at least in this regard. This said, my sample population is too small and lacking in randomness as I did it just for fun and not for publication.

Reasonable people can disagree on what Obama meant, but it is clear that many reasonable people think Obama was making a sexist comment about Hillary and that they are right to think so, given normal social conventions on what words mean.

Yours, Steven

 
 

Comment by Fandango13 | 2008-08-02 09:57:42

Oh Mel, please no, not another speech! Haven’t we suffered enough?

PUMA

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:15:40

Speaking of which, how many more times will we have to suffer the sex fantasy projections of Obot “journalists”:

Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The Paris/Britney reference was all about emptyheaded celebrity. Which is appropriate, since Obama is essentially a MSM production.

Comment by yttik | 2008-08-02 10:45:29

I read that. Unbelievable.

I also think there’s a lot of sexism in that accusation. They see Spears and Hilton in an ad and the first thing so called “progressives” think is “hos”? In fact some of the so called “progressive” comments said exactly that. One guy called Spears and Hilton “trash” and then accuses McCain of trying to trigger racism. You can’t play this card both ways.

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 10:54:13

I can’t believe that came from Herbert …

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-02 13:16:00

Oh yea over at the Political Machine Tommy Christopher and his hangers on were going on and on and on about the significance of two blonde white women. It is odd that they didn’t bring up the age difference too, but then they were focused on …….drumroll what else but RACISM! gag

 
 
 

Comment by OBSP | 2008-08-02 10:24:14

He can’t do another speech now. Chris Matthew’s is on vacation and what’s a BO speech without a Chris leg tingle?

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:39:54

Please, my lunch.

 
 
 

Comment by breeze | 2008-08-02 09:58:22

Slightly OT:

I’ve been living in St. Petersburg, Fl. for twenty years and, let me make this clear, those three young
protesters yesterday were not just ‘off the street’.

They were UHURU Members.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

Uhuru movement

The Uhuru Movement refers to a group of organizations under the principle of “African internationalism,” or the liberation of Africans in both the continent of Africa and in the African Diaspora. ‘Uhuru’ is a Swahili word for freedom. The Movement is led by Yeshitela’s African People’s Socialist Party (APSP).

The APSP has formed several organizations, each with specific tasks and purpose. Affiliated organizations include The International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement, African Socialist International, African People’s Solidarity Committee, and Burning Spear Productions, as well as others.

In May 1972, after his release from prison, Yeshitela founded the St. Petersburg-based African People’s Socialist Party (APSP), a political party founded on an ideology combining black nationalism and socialism called “African internationalism.” [2] Yeshitela later set up an organization for white people to join in solidarity with the APSP’s goals, the African People’s Solidarity Committee.

Later, the APSP formed the International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement to work under the guiding principle that the only way for Africans to achieve liberation and self-determination is to struggle for an all-African socialist government under the leadership of African workers and poor peasants.

Yeshitela has also established the African People’s Education and Defense Fund, which seeks to address disparities in education and health faced by African Africans, and Burning Spear Productions, the publishing arm of the APSP.

The APSP is affiliated with the African Socialist International, an organization Yeshitela helped establish that seeks to unite African socialists and national liberation movements under a single revolutionary umbrella in opposition to imperialism and neocolonialism.

Yeshitela has set up a coalition promoting reparations for slavery, arguing that African people worldwide are due reparations for more than slavery, but also over 500 years of colonialism and neocolonialism.

There is a lot more info at Wiki, if anyone is
interested………

—————————————————

I AM AFRAID THAT ‘THE ONE’ MADE A BIG MISTAKE HERE….

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:08:14

The ‘Chickens” that supported Obama’s political career are coming home to roost!!

Wright, Farrakhan & NOI, The New Black Panthers, the Weather Underground and Uhuru have not “MADE” Obama for nothing. They will come for payback.

Question is how would an Obama Pres. pay back to all those who help him get here and now are demanding their share? He would of course *have to* do sth. b/c of re-election.

Obama’s past is far too compromised with extremists that will FOR SURE go looking for their share once he’s in office.

The “hecklers” in FL are the tip of the iceberg.

Comment by georgia | 2008-08-02 10:22:44

You can say that again! Very good article backs you up: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6a42365c-5ffa-11dd-805e-000077b07658.html

 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:39:13

Yeah, I kinda thought there goes the (South Chicago) neighborhood, under the bus–what about that blood in the street stuff they like to rant about, if they are down lying in it with us–

 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:00:06

Jennifer Rubin has her analysis just right !!

Good post LisaB: thanks for the excellent round up on the subject!

 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-08-02 10:02:09

Picture the Wizard of Oz scene with the melting witch, but substitute Howard Dean screaming “We’re shrinking, we’re shrinking!”

Yes, the Democratic ranks are shrinking. Per Rasmussen:

Saturday, August 02, 2008

During July, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Democrats fell two percentage points to 39.2%. That’s the first time since January that the number of Democrats has fallen below 41% (snip).

While the number of Democrats declined, there was virtually no change in the number of Republicans. In July, 31.6% said they were Republicans, the fourth straight month that number has been below 31.4% and 31.6%.

The Democrats now have a 7.6 percentage point advantage over the Republicans, down from a 9.5 percentage point advantage in June and 10.1
percentage points in May.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/party_affiliation/partisan_trends

Could it be that people like my wife and I who considered themselves Democrats are now checking off the “Independent” box? Maybe. Here’s what the pollster notes:

In January and February, while Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were in the early stages of the battle for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the number of Americans who considered themselves to be Democrats surged to record highs.

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-02 11:28:47

Howard Dean…snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

With aplomb, too.

Ass.

 
 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-02 10:02:13

Time is not Barky NObama’s friend, never has been.
He can’t close the deal. Those who are undecided break against him. That is his record. No amount of money or ads can change that for Barky. If you didn’t like him instantly, the passage of time and learning more about him just cements that dislike. Juxtapose that against McCain. With McCain undecided voters are just waiting for a reason TO vote for him. Barky is toast in November.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:14:56

You are mistaken. By all news accounts, this election is all but settled. It will be a slam dunk in November for Obama. McCain should spare himself the humiliation and take his own name off the ballot.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:16:46

ha, another silly troll “comment”, just ignore it.

 

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 10:18:34

Sure the only way Obama could possibly win in Nov is if McCain took his name off the ballot and even then it would be a toss up if Obama would win….lmao

 

Comment by Chicago Joe | 2008-08-02 10:19:15

You are the one who is mistaken. The attack machine hasn’t even started on BHO and they are tied. Once the general public starts paying attention—you know those of us here read everything and live, breathe and eat this stuff—they are going to run away from BHO in droves. He is too unknown, his positions too fluid, and his socialist policies will undermine what most Americans view as the American Dream. And once they start pulling out oppo research, he is toast.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:35:50

The Repubs are getting desperate. They are now attacking a historic African American candidate as a racist. Are we now living in Bizzaro world?

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:40:15

Historic? You are certainly pleased with yourself, huh, smegma breath?

Historic only in the sense that he, if nominated, will be the first black loser. Better get someone with some experience and less egocentricity if you want to win.

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:42:45

Are we now living in Bizzaro world?

You’re definitely living in a Bizzaro world. If you really believe the stuff you’re posting, then you’re not living in the world that the rest of us are living in.

 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:43:26

The republicans aren’t desperate, they will fight the good fight as they have nothing to lose, not the same for the democratic party. You chastised and insulted and told half of the party to go away, so we have nothing to lose.
However the O campaign has everything to lose.

 

Comment by sprout | 2008-08-02 11:41:55

“Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:35:50

The Repubs are getting desperate. They are now attacking a historic African American candidate as a racist. Are we now living in Bizzaro world?”


no, they’re pointing out that obama is a racist, there’s a big difference.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:45:56

The Republicans aren’t desperate or even fighting dirty at all. They are still saving their money, watching Obama destroy himself. He literally is creating the weapons against himself, and has kept the criticism at bay by playing on people’s fear of being labeled racists. But he’s done it too much. Now everyone is apparently some level of racist so who cares anymore.

 
 
 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:20:27

Somehow I don’t think Old Mac has that on his agenda. No, not this week.

Actually, I am pleasantly surprised at the intensity of the latest McCain ads. These ads are designed to do one thing only: to take BO out.
To cut him off at the knees. David Gergen is not one of my favorite talking heads, but I do agree with his comment that McCain has started a knife fight. Men who begin knife fights usually have an objective in mind, and it’s not to take themselves out of the rumble.

Comment by fif | 2008-08-02 10:26:55

McCain comes from a long line of warriors. Obama is a weakling and it will show more and more.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:33:51

Please, if McCain is such a warrior, why was a POW? He obviously wasn’t that good a warrior. Obama on the other has been reported to be able to curl a 70lb weight without breaking a sweat. Senator Obama is no weakling, and as Jack Cafferty of CNN says, he is also no man’s fool. McCain doesn’t stand a chance.

Comment by democracyfirst | 2008-08-02 10:36:49

Let me apologize first because I never insult people – but
THAT IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS I’VE EVER HEARD!

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:41:56

Freedumb fighter: Dumb post of the year award

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 10:51:34

FF:
You must be a very young person because no mature person would make such a sophomoric statement.

Additionally, anyone calling themself freedom fighter would never support Obama. If Obama was ever in an actual battle like McCain, he would run and hide like a scared rat

 
 

Comment by Nicole | 2008-08-02 11:20:15

Ummm, I recognized (wannabe) Freedom Fighter’s above paragraph–verbatim–from more than a month ago. Just goes to prove that the Obamabots have a “template of refutations” and other standard phrases to drop in whenever they’re in over their heads, as FF clearly is now.

He/she’s drowning.

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 13:16:27

Nicole,
Do you mean they are recycling their scripts provided by Obama headquarters?

How funny!

 
 
 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:37:35

Senator Obama is no weakling, and as Jack Cafferty of CNN says, he is also no man’s fool

.

Correct, Senator Prom Queen is such a tough guy, he needs Hillary Clinton to come in and save him.

Please, who can even take you seriously?

 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:45:43

No imagine yourself saying this to someone 20 years from now who served in Iraq, see it doesn’t sound very good does it? That is how these sort of remarks are looked at, if you insult the soldier/pow of yesterday, you will do the same tomorrow. Not cool.

 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-08-02 11:26:10

Shame on you

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-02 11:49:08

Definitely you are from another world. Why was he a POW? Because he was fighting, and he was taking a lot of risks, and consequently got shot down. And if you are actually the same Freedom Fighter who said, about a month ago, that he was a poor fighter for letting himself get caught, I thought then your statement indicated a defeatist attitude that wasn’t part of our fighting culture at all.

 

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-02 12:52:46

Sadly, I fully expect this king of
BS from far leftists such as you Freedom Fighter. You are from the same line of cowards who used to spit and boo down the troops.

 

Comment by Vince | 2008-08-02 16:32:33

And yet… he can’t throw a 13 lb bowling ball…

 
 
 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-02 10:42:37

McCain’s strategy is a damn good one. He will spend the next few weeks hammering. Cementing the undecided voters obvious hesitation about Barky. Then, come the end of the month, he’ll annouce a VP pick that will make many more comfortable with a McCain presidency. He’ll spend Sept. and Oct. highlighting his own leadership and policy proposals- giving people a reason to feel good about voting for him. ( The VP can do any attacking if necessary at that point.) Damn smart strategy. Nobama is toast. He has nowhere to go but down. If your not in the tank for Barky by now, you never will be.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:54:31

Cementing the undecided voters obvious hesitation about Barky.

Some of those undecideds in McCain’s own party. It may seem hard to believe, but there are Republicans who were unsure about Mac because they saw him as unwilling to fight, too much of a compromiser. Well the ads currently running will do much to allay those concerns, and open the checkbooks of the on-the-fence Rs.

 
 
 

Comment by Davey | 2008-08-02 10:27:33

haha You’d love that wouldn’t you… funny that your name is Freedom Fighter but you’re wanting the main opposition to take their name off the ballot so that Obama wins because he’s practically unopposed.

Wow, freedom and democracy at its best huh?!

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:41:30

Funny how freedom fighter prefers fraudulent SELECTION process over democratic VOTING elections. Kind of an oxyMORON.

The caucuses remind me of Bookie Joints for gamblers with the most money or muscle. We can’t afford another POTUS by crooked bookies.
Bush was bad enough, Obama will be just as wrong if not worse.

O is a gamble I refuse to bet on.

Comment by 935 Lies | 2008-08-02 11:44:54

Voting for Obama for Freedom is akin to f*****g for virginity, IMHO.

 
 
 

Comment by JohninCA | 2008-08-02 10:41:25

It’s not over because the election’s the deal
Mr Obama seems unable to seal
The country will want him, ‘ere long, out of sight
To more principled leaders we had a right.

Flip flops and broken promises mar
A campaign increasingly on the sub par
In the fall one suspects his supporters will gasp
To see John McCain with the win in his grasp.

 

Comment by candymarl | 2008-08-02 15:13:23

But if Obama runs unopposed that’s not Democracy. That’s dictatorship.

Is that the real intent here? To finally do away with even the trappings of democracy?

Why am I not surprised.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 16:52:23

It will be a slam dunk in November for Obama

This one belongs in the “Troll Hall of Shame”.

Why?
When was the last time a person used this phrase?

And WHAT HAPPENED? UG! :)

 
 
 

Comment by BernieO | 2008-08-02 10:02:25

How naive are the folks at the NY Times? They think that playing the race card would hurt Obama when he did this to the Clintons and it worked all too well, with assistance from the media?? (Do you think they really believe the Clintons are racist?) Someone should show them the clips from South Carolina where Michelle introduces Barack by talking to the largely AA audience about the importance of a candidate who looks like them and then says “It is our turn.” Maybe they think she was talking about Chicagoans? Forty-year-olds?
Someone should put together a video of ALL of these kinds of statements that Michelle and Barack have repeatedly made, show them to reporters, then dare them to say Obama has not played the race card -repeatedly. (The clip of him admitting that his campaign had kept that list of statements by Clinton and her supporters in SC that could be construed as racially insensitive, then sold them to a complicit media should be front and center. Also clips of Wright’s racist comments, the typical white person crack.)

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 10:48:03

Unfortunately, I just lost a whole post addressing why the Clintons were marginalized by 0bama’s race-baiting. Ugh!

But yes, the msm helped with this. They allowed Michelle 0bama’s misquote to stand for several news cycles and then they only tacitly corrected it.

Also, MO never apologized, even though Hillary was forced to apologize over and over and questioned and hammered on this issue. Ferraro’s comments, come to mind.

Democrats are liberals and proud of the their Civil Rights legacy. The Clintons were stunned and caught off guard. And AAs were all too willing to get behind the ‘black’ candidate, especially after the Iowa Caucus results confirmed in their mind that 0bama was a viable candidate. It was a long awaited dream come true.

But the media slanted the coverage and did not report on how 0bama gamed the Caucus system and the dirty Chicago tactics he used.

We all knew that the GOP would not be moved by the race card. And so that’s over!

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:53:29

Someone should put together a video of ALL of these kinds of statements that Michelle and Barack have repeatedly made, show them to reporters, then dare them to say Obama has not played the race card -repeatedly.

Oh, I think someone probably is doing that, but they’re not going to waste on the media. They’re going to take it to the people who really count—the voters.

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:29:12

The msm is under orders by their Corporate Masters.

They are not going to report the unbiased truth.

I’m as frustrated as anyone about this, but it’s time to accept this. The Corporate MSM want BO to win.

 
 
 

Comment by fred | 2008-08-02 10:07:36

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Saturday, August 02, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday Barack Obama 44% John McCain 43%

Gallup John McCain and Barack Obama are now absolutely tied each favored by 44%

Obama is polling downward hes at the 45%-44% range thats a loser in any election. Obama has the money, the media, the so called “movement” and Dems out number republicans by 3 million+ and hes can’t get 50%. The only thing I can relate these numbers to are PUMA’S

 

Comment by yttik | 2008-08-02 10:11:31

Does anybody wonder why Obama made those comment? I mean was it just stupidity? Hubris?

It just seems so counter productive to me, why would you go before a primarily white crowd and remind them you’re black? They already know. Then he says he’ll be portrayed as scary. So now he’s just introduced the steriotype of scary black guy in the back of people’s minds.

And none of our presidents look like George Washington anymore, LOL. I mean what a stupid thing to say.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:19:33

Maybe he’s trying reverse psychology. Telling voters that “they’ll” make you scared of me……are you gonna let them make you scared? Like, are you enlightened enough to vote for me?

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:43:53

Maybe Obama ought to wear a powdered wig for his next photo op so we won’t be so scared of him…lol!

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-08-02 10:57:08

And make his next speech standing in the front of a boat crossing the Delaware River. Yeah, that’s the ticket. LOL!

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:04:35

Yeah but the cherry tree prop won’t work..”I cannot tell a lie.”

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 17:02:49

Medusa? Or the Krakin?

Below the thunders of the upper deep;
Far far beneath in the abysmal sea,
His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep
The Kraken sleepeth: faintest sunlights flee
About his shadowy sides; above him swell
Huge sponges of millennial growth and height;
And far away into the sickly light,
From many a wondrous grot and secret cell
Unnumber’d and enormous polypi
Winnow with giant arms the slumbering green.
There hath he lain for ages, and will lie
Battening upon huge seaworms in his sleep,
Until the latter fire shall heat the deep;
Then once by man and angels to be seen,
In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die.

Alfred, Lord Tennyson-1830

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 10:52:24

He made it because he really doesn’t have anything else to say. He has no game!

He is still trying to guilt white America into voting for him. He grew up using this tactic with his grandparents and when backed into a corner with no real stand on the issues, he regresses.

0bama’s a headcase among other things.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:59:16

Yes, but I will add it shows Obama’s IMMATURITY to think the guilt stuff will work. That is out of a childplay’s book. Mature people understand the issues etc. Kids will use anything they can to get what they want. Has nothing to do with race.

I was so excited in the beginning that both Hillary and Obama were in the primary. Hillary was my first choice and Obama my second- from the beginning. The idea that so many more often ignored people would be represented excited my progressive liberal views. But the more I listened to Obama the more I could see he is seriously lacking in substance and I was disappointed. Then with the fraud the DNC pulled on Hillary that was the straw that broke my back. She was/is the best candidate for POTUS. End of story.

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:36:15

Yes, it shows his immaturity. That certainly was my point. I just didn’t state it outright.

The guy is a headcase.

He’s immature. Engages in juvenile behavior. Has serious identity issues with regard to his racial background and he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

The Dem leadership made it clear that they want no association with the centrist ideals that Hillary and Bill Clinton represent.

This is why I am no longer a Democrat, nor do I use such useless labels as liberal and progressive. They are meaningless.

I will vote for McCain. But I am no Repub either.

I await the final outcome in the hopes that there will be a serious push to organize a Third Party.

Of course, my real hope is that Hillary will still be nominated.

 
 
 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-08-02 11:28:11

Let’s buy him a wig!

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 10:12:45

Bob Herbert pisses me off and the AAs who think this way do too.

It was 0bama who began the race-baiting!!! This is how he marginalized Hillary at the beginning of the Dem Primary. He’s on record as saying the reason he went to Chicago is because he was attracted to Harold Washington’s style of using racial politics to get elected.

Well, he opened that can of worms and now he has to eat it.

I would be on his side if he had never played the race card against the Clintons and won fair and square the nomination.

But he race-baited and continues to do so and now he and his supporters want to cry ‘Foul.’

What really galls me is that they don’t even realize the stupidity of their arguments. Nor are they paying attention to how campaigns play out.

Kerry was attacked, Bill Clinton was attacked viciously by the other side. To say that 0bama is getting this treatment solely on the basis of his ethnicity is just bullshit! Especially since he is the one who wears his ethinicity on his sleeve when it suits him.

Clearly, 0bama is angry at being compared to Paris Hilton. But frankly, he comes across as being vacuous. All of this so-called dazzling speechifying with teleprompters and then when he’s off script he sounds like a stuttering moron who can’t string 2 sentences together. It’s not racist to critique his blatant weaknesses.

Did Colin Powell stutter off script when he was taking interviews as Secretary of State? Does Condoleeza Rice? We may not like what those two said or their politics, but they certainly were able to articulate their point of view. Remember Ron Brown? Boy, was he articulate and sharp. There are any numerous examples of AAs in public life who can take a cohesive and intelligent interview and make sense.

0bama is not one of them!

And his supporters and the AA community need to step away from the kool-aid and their desperation to start viewing this man from an objective standpoint.

Nothing would make me prouder than to see an AA elected POTUS in my lifetime. 0bama just doesn’t have the goods to be that person and the longer he stays in the limelight revealing what a truly lightweight he is, the more he is making it tougher for a really qualified AA. And this frightens me more than I can say.

I’m disgusted by this whole election now.

What began as a moment of many possibilities has disintegrated into a nightmare. And the Dem Party is responsible for cherrypicking such a challenged candidate who simply is not up to the task at hand. The country cannot elect a marketing package without substance.

So far, he hasn’t shown one iota of toughness, grit, and intelligence to qualify as POTUS. You know, the best way to have shot down McCain’s ad, and all the other things his campaign is complaining about, is to show that he’s got what it takes.

With the Republicans in such bad shape due to Bush, he had a wide open playing field. People were open and receptive to hearing what he has to say and what he intends.

But he blew it, because he just doesn’t have it.

It’s not racism…..

IT’S HIM!

At some point, people are simply going to have to accept this.

Comment by CheatedFLVoter | 2008-08-02 10:27:19

So true mimi. Does anyone still miss Ron Brown as much as I do? He was the best leader the dems ever had. Every election I think about how different things would be if Ron was in charge.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-02 10:30:16

Comment by Irish1139 | 2008-08-02 11:39:09

Mimi, you break my heart. I wanted the first AA president to be the best so that all Americans could be proud of where we’ve come from in the last 50 years. All of us together like MLK spoke of. I cry when I see what is coming down the road for this country.
No matter who wins, it will be a disaster. So sad, so sad for both whites and AAs. I now realize I will never see the fullfilment of the dream.

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 17:04:56

 
 
 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:13:31

O/T: Deja Vu

Obama oppposed offshore drilling before he supported it….

In major change, Obama says he’ll support offshore drilling

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46174.html

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:25:36

I strongly recommend this article to read:

A Week Late by Jennifer Rubin. 08/01/08

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/18901

Comment by LesleeE | 2008-08-02 11:42:16

Thanks, that was good. A journalist who gets it. Damn!

 
 

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-08-02 11:00:38

Bad move for Barky. Obvious pandering. How is he going to reconcile that with Queen Nancy’s position she will not allow a vote in order to save the planet? Like with FISA, he will lose more of his left base and the Hollywood crowd. Conservatives won’t believe him he is being truthful. I got to go check out Huffington and DailyKos and see how this is playing LOL.

 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:14:34

Great Post Lisa B. I am so glad Senator McCain isn’t putting up with this. If it looks like a duck….
People are sick and tired of the race baiting, as well as desensitized to it. I know racism when I hear it, and I also know when I don’t. McCain was ready, we already saw this one played out against Bill and Hillary Clinton, and it isn’t going to happen again. The spinning of it makes the spinmeisters look foolish; the American public is far more aware than the media has any idea of.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:19:04

I can’t believe you’d side with a wrinkled, old, white man, from the party of racists against a truly historic first African American presidential candidate from your own party. Senator Obama is right, it’s all about race.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 10:21:15

And I’m right! You’re just a silly anchoy troll…..who cares what you think.

Comment by Nicole | 2008-08-02 11:35:43

The troll using the ludicrous moniker of “FreedomFighter” has got to be the dumbest one yet. What a bottom-feeder! To attack a candidate’s looks and age is mean-spirited and low class, but then to accuse the entire Republican party–the party of Abe–who’ve had no problem promoting candidates of color (Condi, Colon, to name a few) is just really stupid. Not all Republicans are bigoted, homophobic religious extremists, just as not all Democrats are mindless, silly Obamaphiles.

I troll rate FF as an “F”.

Dumbass.

 
 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:22:53

If playing the race card doesn’t work for your candidate, why on earth do you think it will make your case for him?

 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-02 10:23:59

Very convenient argument to deflect from the MANY MANY weaknesses of this candidate. Arrogance is arrogance, no matter who possesses it. YOU are the racist by turning this mundane criticism into a racial issue. Good luck with that, because it will only turn more voters off. Please, keep it up.

 

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:24:30

Sorry to burst our bubble, oh ignorant one, but I don’t care if Oblowme is purple polka-dot. The truth is that he is UNQUALIFIED and DIVISIVE.

Here’s a treat for you and there’s the door, bot.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 10:26:57

Freedom Fighter: are you in teh military? Are you writing from Iraq or Afghanistan?

Thought so…

 

Comment by democracyfirst | 2008-08-02 10:27:28

Your old smoke and mirrors tactic isn’t working anymore.

 

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:29:27

I can’t believe you’d side with a wrinkled, old, white man,

You sound foolish since you’re a wet-behind-the-ears 12 year old with smegma breath.

Now go back to the cellar from whence you crawled.

 

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-02 10:29:57

So it is all about race huh, so we are to forget that he is a pathological liar, a sexist pig, a do nothing politician, a terrorists best friend, ok, well, NO we won’t forget these and everything else about your unqualified black candidate thank you!

 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:30:17

Thank you for being so kind, it’s always impressive how compassionate and positive Obama supporters are; really appreciate it.KWK

 

Comment by soldier4hillary | 2008-08-02 10:36:58

If the Republicans were a party of racists, I wonder why Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican. Hmm makes you wonder. Senator Obama knows nothing about being black, if he did, he would know we would never destroy the history of our civil rights leaders and activists who died for a cause by watching using race as a political strategy.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 10:46:57

Abe Lincoln was a republican also. Obama refers to him a lot.

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:02:20

It’s not racism you idiot.

It’s HIM!

 

Comment by Bye bye Obambi | 2008-08-02 11:32:21

Obama himself sides with the Republicans! He loves them. Reagan, the President of ideas. Bush Sr, the President whose foreign policy he wishes to emulate.

And, I like the Republican idea that people should be accountable for their own lives. Bill Cosby has said also it’s about time blacks do something to take responsibility instead of playing the victim.

 
 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-02 10:21:05

You can imagine Hillary Clinton and her supporters banging their heads on their desks and emailing one another (”We told them!” “No one believed us!”)

WE ARE! WE ARE!

One of the main reasons I stopped reading the NY Times (besides Dowd & Frank Rich) was Bob Herbert. That is the most disgusting piece of dreck I’ve read in a while:

“It’s driving the idea that Barack Obama is somehow presumptuous, too arrogant, too big for his britches — a man who obviously does not know his place…Mr. Obama has to endure these grotesque insults with a smile and heroic levels of equanimity. The reason he has to do this — the sole reason — is that he is black.”

BTW, Herbert is black too. This defensive posture is absolutely ridiculous. The ad clearly slammed Obama for being a celebrity candidate (ie: all image no substance). Now it has some kind of subconscious message about black men and white women?!! Sounds like the only one with issues about that Mr. Herbert, is YOU!

And these “grotesque insults” (eg: “arrogant”) are ONLY because he is black. What a friggin pathetic display. So, no one that is African American can be arrogant?

Finally, re: all those horrible, horrible insults the Prince must endure “with a smile and heroic levels of equanimity”: much worse insults were hurled at Hillary Clinton and SHE was the one who smiled heroically. Obama whines and complains and plays the victim constantly. Many of these ugly insults about Hillary came from you, too, Mr. Herbert.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:26:56

Now it has some kind of subconscious message about black men and white women?!! Sounds like the only one with issues about that Mr. Herbert, is YOU!

I know, nowadays so many of us are members of ethnically and racially diverse families, that whole idea of taboo sex between the races is so 1952.

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:36:10

It’s true, many, many families of mixed between many nations. It just doesn’t hit home, as they wish it would, the attempt at alienating so many. But when it is fine to campaign for money from the wealthy but putting down the less fortunate, you know this person must have some serious prejudices to try and excuse their way out of classifying groups of people as ignorant, bible clutching, gun toting, etc. It was allowed, it was explained and it was excused, so of course they drink from the well, yet again. Predictable.

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:11:05

“Real life sucks losers dry. If you want to fuck with the eagles, you better learn to fly.” (from Heathers, the movie)

What?

Did 0bama think that being half-black was going to insulate him from a GOP attack?

In the words of Joan Rivers:

“Grow up!”

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 12:07:37

Thanks for your comment fif; I totally agree with all you write there.

 
 

Comment by SHV | 2008-08-02 10:23:02

“Obama – liar and racist.”

I don’t think Obama is a racist..he transcends race, party and politics…he is a sociopath.

 

Comment by democracyfirst | 2008-08-02 10:24:00

Obama’s camp, pundits, and disciples are using a whole lot of smoke and mirrors trying to convince everyone else that he is not race baiting and racist, and that the McCain ads are racist.
It makes them look absolutely ridiculous and desperate.

Their whole campaign has been smoke and mirrors. It gives me hope that people are finally noticing and/or admitting it.

 

Comment by Vincent | 2008-08-02 10:26:34

Obama:
“I was in union, Missouri which is 98 percent white – a rural, conservative. and what I said was what I think everybody knows, which is that I don’t look like I came out of central casting when it comes to presidential candidates.”

Racist, dangerous, panderer Obama was trying to directly get inside the “white guilt” of the audience (note: Shelby Steele).

A color-blind canditate does not know, nor care that a district is “98 percent white.”

Comment by Vincent | 2008-08-02 10:33:04

Ooops – meant “candidate” – eyes wearing out.

Comment by yttik | 2008-08-02 10:50:53

Central casting? Is he saying he’s a bad actor? I guess we already know this is a phony marketing campaign and he’s just playing a role.

 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 17:19:01

I don’t look like I came out of central casting when it comes to presidential candidates.”

No, but it is possible BO that you did, in fact, come out of central casting when it comes to a liar.

What’s your point BO? That many of the president of old had something besides Groat Clusters to bring to show?

BO thinks running for president is like acting on your favorite Soap. “Days of Our Lies”, I think.

 
 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-02 10:26:37

I saw Obama on TV this morning doing a Press conference, without the teleprompter he looks so bad, all that stammering and stopping, I can’t take it and can’t follow what he’s trying to say. Then he played the race card again, “I have a funny sounding name, I don’t look like I came from central casting”. Yes Obama, we can see that you have darker skin, what does that have to do with ANYTHING. I guess Obama thought he win win on his LOOK, what a dreamer. The more he has to preform without the Teleprompter the worse he will do, people can see how unprepared he is.

 

Comment by Chicago Joe | 2008-08-02 10:31:43

He has made the central casting reference repeatedly, which only makes me think that he is acting. And one can’t keep up an act forever, especially an act that is wearing so thin.

 

Comment by kinthenortwest | 2008-08-02 10:32:30

Freedom fighter you had better take another look at the polls. July closed with Obama and McCain neck and neck in the polls over all. What was interesting was that most of the McCain gain was in “Swing States”.
Like many newcasters have said “This should be the Democrats year, but Obama just cant seem to do it”

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:42:13

This is the summer. Most people are on vacation and isn’t paying attention. Come back in September and you will see a 15% lead, like the earlier Newsweek poll, for Obama.

Comment by beebop | 2008-08-02 11:01:38

Most people are on vacation and isn’t paying attention

Please don’t skip out on English class so much this year. It isn’t helping …. :)

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:16:13

Please conjugate your verbs!

It’s aren’t paying attention.

 

Comment by pew | 2008-08-02 12:18:42

Don’t kid yourself, its summer, but most people are home,and know extactly what’s going on. Most Americans(Middle Class)can’t afford, to go anywhere. So I wouldn’t expect the polls,to advance in Obama’s favour. The more he talks,it seems,the more he puts his foot in Mouth..Polls will go down,unless Clinton is elected the nominee.

Clinton for Potus

 
 
 

Comment by agent77 | 2008-08-02 10:36:46

Obama ‘is not out of central casting’…that must be the new race bait line….Obama used it and Axelrod used it to Good Morning America yesterday

Kind of ties into the celebrity claims being made about Obama…central casting????

What are the potential outcomes from using this line…”not out of central casting” ?????

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-08-02 10:40:42

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Cindy_McCain

Just saw this link at HuffPo front page. Read it and weep. LOL!

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 11:08:08

Huffpo isn’t considered to be a source, only a toilet. You will have to do better than that.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 11:52:54

Who cares about what HuffPo puts out there???
Arianna is a closet scorned Republican.

 

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-02 13:04:32

Huffingtonpost?!? I guess to listen to the
hate monger Randi Rhodes too.

 
 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-08-02 10:42:17

the central casting line is the same as saying oh i am black.

He is in trouble. It worked against the Clintons. Not the pubs.
Also, it worked on the clintons because i really think Bill and Hillary were so shocked after all they have done and tryed to do for AA’s.
I think they thought poeple knew better. Which they should have.
But they got stabbed in the back by and ethnic group they helped the most and still do.
Was Obama at the Black union? or MLK’s hotel memorial?
Does Obama raise millions upon millions in charity for Africa?
NO. But we all know who does.
Freedom Fighter, suggesting the Clintons are racist or playing with race is intellectually dishonest.
If you truly believe that you are dumber than you seem.

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:22:31

Exactly!

The Clintons were simply stunned.

After all, Bill has an office in Harlem. Patronizes the local business, etc.

Add to that the complicity of the msm and the propensity for Democrats to have a kneejerk reaction to the racist charge and 0bama hit pay dirt.

But hey, he knew what he was doing. He went to Chicago to study Harold Washington’s playbook on racial politics to win elections.

 
 

Comment by orionATL | 2008-08-02 10:42:34

it is very important when evaluating ANY of senator obama’s remarks about race,

to recall that his chief strategist, david axelrod, has run a very large number of campaigns for black candidates in the last few years, including quite a few for mayor of large cities,

everyone of which would have had to take race into account.

i expect that axelrod may be the most experienced user of race issues in american politics today.

it is inconceivable to me that axelrod, and thru him, obama, would not be highly attuned to the response that ANY obama comments about race would generate.

i would guess that any mention of race by obama has been soundly analyzed by the obama strategy team before it was deployed.

i am also of the belief that obama is not in charge of his campaign; david axelrod is. obama is the face and voice of axelrod.

recall that mass. gov. duval patrick was one of axelrod’s clients. and recall also that obama in his campaign against senator clinton used much of the language that patrick had previously used in his gubernatorial campaign (i am not speaking only of “race” comments).

finally, unless i am mistaken, obama used nearly these same words about the clinton’s while running against senator clinton.

summary:

always look back at the statements of david axelrod’s previous clients if you want to know whether something obama said, about race or hope or anything else, was

casual, accidental, “spontaneous”

or not.

 

Comment by Bob Davidson,Jr. | 2008-08-02 10:42:42

Hey the former president racist Bill Clinton is down in Africa trying to solve the aids problem.

Not to mention you uninformed Obama ingrates Mr. Clinton’s administration had the lowest African American unemployment in the history of the country.

When you screwed with “Bill” you screwed with the base of the democratic party This equals no damn vote for the beginner He should have at least attempted to work in the Senate The party is going down!

Comment by Bigtime | 2008-08-02 10:57:03

Aye! Did you notice that Dem party affiliation has went down 2.5% since the illegal activities of the DNC/RBC. That is a lot of PUMA’s.

Country before Party!!!

Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-02 16:44:38

 
 

Comment by salt | 2008-08-02 10:46:21

If insert blank any person is a evil racist attacking the poor poor One then Obama is losing in the polls and his resume is being questioned AGAIN…. All scripted to give the MSM Trolls like Herbert, Robinson and Dems Brazile, Rep Clyburn an incendiary bot bite to rant about, instead of the narritive of Obama’s total lack of qualification for the Office of President LOL

And watch Act II is always a follow up routine if Racist doesn’t work well enough …another poor Obama poor Obama grievance insert any grievance for co enablers to rally to

Delude yourselves if you must but this race is over, Independents are gone they moved to McCain away from Obama and Party enrollment declining see new Rass Poll for July

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-02 13:10:09

I do not see a large gain the House for the Democrats.
The 25-35 seat gain is not going to happen now.
I expect the Democrats to get another 5-8 seats.
From 233, the margin will increase to 238-241.
Sorry Dems, you blew your chance.

 
 

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 10:46:44

We need a new category of troll, Dumber-than-dirt troll: makes truly inane posts, oblivious to the fact that the posts undermine its own argument

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 10:59:00

soon to be followed by Scraping the Bottom troll.

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 11:02:33

ROFL. Which in turn will be followed by the Living off Mommy and Daddy though I’m 27 years old troll.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-02 11:25:06

Oh the Baby trolls- hate them Wah Wah Wah…lol!

 
 
 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-08-02 10:47:37

a. Obama still denies that the “money” comment was about race. Everybody in the U.S. who is not an OBorg knows that it was exactly about race.
b. Obama doesn’t know that he is injecting race into the campaign??? What’s next? He didn’t know that pushing the pretty red button would start the next World War?
c. So Bob Herbert thinks that it is the Republican’s fault that Obama is running a racist campaign. Nothing is ever Obama’s fault, it seems.

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 10:57:29

jwrjr,
You hit the nail on the head. Thin skinned and unable to take responsibility for his own actions.
Being President requires intestinal fortitude the likes which I cannot imagine myself having. However Senator MCCain survived years of things we will never know the horror of; these pesky, silly insults thrown at him, are not worth much in any way to try and take him down. I love it that he would not allow the racism vomit hurled at him.

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:48:30

Katmoon,

Again, you and I are on the same page.

Being POTUS does require an intestinal fortitude the likes of which I know I don’t have.

But guess what. After watching 0bama, I know I have more chops than he does.

Come on, this thin-skinned shit simply ain’t gettin it. Even Bush had to reconcile the realities of the job.

His sick-o-phant supporters have to face the facts, the race thing is SO OVER!

But what do you expect from a one-trick pony?

 
 
 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-08-02 10:57:38

Race will not work. I garuantee Hillary voters are so happy Mac hit him for his race baiting. He would be wise to keep doing it to.
AA’s are only going to give him 5% anyway. So drill him for it and all the poeple who watched his racist campaign are going to love Obama being called on it.
This is the beginning of the end.
Also, mocking obama’s popularity is the line of attack that will work.
He is done, and now he is flipped on drilling.
If you cannot stand for anything you stand for nothing.

Oh and do not tell me he stands by his Iraq stance. He wants a residual force there of 80,000 troops.

His goose is cooked and you who believe in him i feel sorry becuase he suckered you.

He used Americans desperate for a new direction from the bush years. Without GWB there could be Nobama.

I am sorry Freedom Fighter. It is never fun to be used. The sooner you wake up the sooner this country really has the chance to move forward.

Don’t let yourself be duped so easily.

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 11:53:44

I’m not sorry for any of the players in the Dem farce of a Primary.

If the citizens of this country don’t start being smarter, if they don’t stop being suckered by slick marketing campaigns and superficial values like appearance, and so-called hipness, then our Democracy is going to die.

We have to be smarter than this.

 
 

Comment by Sue | 2008-08-02 11:00:40

I just don’t understand all the handwringing, etc of the nobama supporters & why nobama is campaigning in blue collar swing states – after all, brazilnut, howie & nancy all said they have a new dem party and we’re not part of it – so hey nobama – you’ve got your base (isn’t that enough for you to win?)- guess not, but too bad – noway nobama november – (gonna have to just go register some more of those dead people)

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:01:08

But don’t you remember? The way they shot Hillary down was by claiming that the big fat 0 appealed to this so-called broad base of Americans wanting change, i.e., no more Clintons and Bushes.

Now it’s fish or cut bait time and they can’t keep that lie going.

He gamed the Caucus. He didn’t have a majority in the Caucus states. Had it been a Primary, he would have lost.

He’s not the candidate of the people as the Party leadership thought they could sell us.

The powers-that-be are too arrogant, too egoistic to accept that THEY WERE WRONG!

They really thought they could force feed us this bullshit candidate and use the AA community by guilting white America into believing that we must elect an AA POTUS.

It might have worked with a better candidate. 0bama is simply not that candidate.

So it’s now time for the leadership to tuck their tails and act like adults and leaders.

Otherwise, it’s going to be a travesty on Election Day.

Dump 0bama!

He’s simply not worth all of this trouble.

Do you realize where we’d be right now if Hillary was facing McCain.

Oh boy, now that would be one interesting slug fest.

 
 

Comment by pew | 2008-08-02 11:04:09

I’m not as worried anymore About Clinton….

Listen to this,,,it came out in June…. Like I said something is going on in the background,we don’t see.imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCwYLTd_vE

 

Comment by WIldChild | 2008-08-02 11:04:27

When I saw Britney and Paris in the ad with BOBO, I never thought they were there to suggest that BOBO was sleeping with white women. They were a clear comparison and in that comparison BOBO came off looking as empty and vapid as they are in their celebrity. BOBO needs to stop with the race baiting and maybe go out and accomplish a few things that mean something to somebody before he runs for president again. Then should people suggest that he is the Britney or Paris of the political world he and his supporters won’t need to get all defensive and lash out with false charges of racism all the time because they have some substance to fall back on in the form of accomplishments. In lashing out and raging about his skin color BOBO and the BOBOweenies are making this a referendum on his skin thinness. LOL and it’s looking mighty thin at this point.

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 11:11:42

Great post. Oblahblah has the style a celebrity along with the corresponding fluff. If Oblowme really want to impress the voters, he should concentrate on content and substance and forget the format and style.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:11:16

Agreed!

The intention is obvious. It’s 0bama is the one who shifted it towards race. Anybody up on pop celebrity culture knows that Paris, Britney, Lohan represent a young culture gone wrong.

This is not like the ad that killed Harold Ford in Tennessee. The I met Ford at the Playboy Mansion.

It’s about 0bama trying to ride to the WH on zero.

He’s become a rock star.

Who wants a POTUS who is a rock star.

If that’s the case then I’ll cast my vote for Mick Jagger.

 
 

Comment by vi | 2008-08-02 11:07:43

Puma, NODEAL, McCains campaign is using Obamas own words against him, and focusing on what America is talking about , and what is concerning them on the issues. Obamas campaign has always had race in it, it was done by their bloggers, we saw this and now the media was forced into seeing this due to McCain addressing the love Affair. Keep up the good work Puma, when will the Obamanits learn it is not the color of his skin, its because he lacks experience and the conviction to do what is right for the people rather than himself, he spoke of change but had no plan, Hillary was the one who addressed the issues that concerned the American people, if Obama is the chosen one, i rather have a man with experience and age, the pride and the strength to choose country before party and oneself. No one can deny he has always supported the troops, with honor and pride.

 

Comment by Sue | 2008-08-02 11:09:47

Just another comment – mccain’s vid of “The One” has over 460,000 hits – I like it -

 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-08-02 11:12:24

Wild Child, exactly. NO ONE thinks that commercial had anything to do with race. But it is a reflex for his supporters,surrogatesm and himself. If something happens they do not like, call poeple racists or accuse them of racism.
That is why it will not work. the GE is not just white guilt ridden liberals. I am in PA and after he lost they said we were not intellectually advanced enough to vote for a black. Ohio they called them “archie bunkers” WV and KY same thing.
A strong resentment has grown over this and no one on the MSM wanted to say anything now that he has been called a shitstorm is going to hit.
It is the silent majority that decides elections. The silent majority resents him and his campaign.

I call check, and until november he is going to run around the board until he is checkmated.

Comment by sprout | 2008-08-02 11:22:17

exactly. The name “racist” bothered us, but many republicans wear it as a badge of honor. Their taunts and name calling isn’t going to work on the GOP. When they shout “racist”, the GOP will counter with a noose and say “your point is?”.
It may have worked in the primary on those of us who are not racist and are offended at being labeled that way, but it won’t work in the general where many racists and non racists are so sick of the race card being played and don’t care if people DO think that about them they they will gladly accept it and keep on attacking.
Obama is TOAST! oh wait, Toast is dark, I hope that wasn’t racist, Obama will come after me!!!! arrrrrggggggg

don’t forget to check out purplechiten.wordpress.com I’m enjoying it very much.

 
 

Comment by Ferdlberfle | 2008-08-02 11:14:43

BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow and Freedumb Fighter are two of the newest classification of trolls, the Sniper Troll.

Comment by Donna Brazile | 2008-08-02 11:20:43

It just seems like to much of a compliment to call them sniper trolls.

I believe snipers are sleak and accurate, whereas, FF & BHSON are slow and inaccurate.

Although at times, they do cause me to chuckle.

Stop the hate!

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 17:33:10

If their intent is is to hit the broadside of a barn, then them’s your guys.

I bet if ya took a rubber hammer to the knees to check for reflexes, nothing would happen. They are suffering from “ear wax on the knees”.

Now, I really don’t want to get into how this occurs, suffice to say it is from listening to the “ONE” orifice for too long.

 
 

Comment by Laura | 2008-08-02 11:15:03

Obama couldn’t get away with calling the McCain campaign “racist” so now they changed it to “cynical”. Stay tuned for tomorrow. I’m sure it will change again. Maybe this time it will be something we can believe.

 

Comment by sprout | 2008-08-02 11:15:44

 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 11:16:14

I think seeing someone finally call Obama on the racism stuff, has given some us a sense of relief. What Senator McCain, said, actually was heard, and agreed with, it’s nice to see the courage to stand up and say, No, not this time. I stand with McCain, no more of this trying to pin the race card on those not wanting Obama. Since that’s all Obama had was his being “different” he had better figure out a way to define himself, because this is just a warm up before the game of the General election; McCain isn’t backing down.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:58:37

Kat, the fun part now is, OBAMA himself will have to be careful about race-baiting again. Hoisted on his own petard. Brilliant.

 
 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-08-02 11:17:12

Yes, i like the one vid and the celeb ad.
They are clobbering him for his greatest strength in a very humorous way.
That is why it works and that is why he cannot take it.

 

Comment by S&T | 2008-08-02 11:30:49

Donna Brazile started the hate along with her buddies Kerrry and Kennedy

 

Comment by S&T | 2008-08-02 11:30:49

Donna Brazile started the hate along with her buddies Kerrry and Kennedy

 

Comment by salt | 2008-08-02 11:31:54

BillANDHillarySupportObamaNow | 2008-08-02 10:46:24

Certainly not one thing this Primary has placed on display is the predatory nature and exploitation of RACE as a cottage industry the revictimizeing the victims again and again creating the a vicious cycle of dependency vs. empowerment what been the surprise to most is who and what institutions perpetuate this pain.

 

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-08-02 11:33:29

The idea that the “Celebrity” ad is a hat tip to the Harold Ford ads, and that it in any way is about race and the white women/black men canard is either willful ignorance or pure fantasy.

The likes of Herbert and The Huffington Post are floating this trial balloon, desperately, in hopes of distracting people from the incredible accuracy of the ad to portray Obama as precisely what he is and what he shares with Britney Spears and particularly Paris Hilton:

Someone whose success is not commensurate with his talents. As Paris got to be who she is based on family connections, Obama is riding white guilt to prominence.

Neither of these people — forget about Britney for a moment — should be where they are based on the merits. They are, relative to their particular genres, inexperienced and meritless hacks.

Anyone who watches the commercial instantly understands that connection, and that is why it is so effective, and why the MSM is railing against it so hard, seeking to invent reasons to shut it down as fast as possible.

What the McCain camp and the GOP has done is they have very concisely identified and qualified for viewers in this and “The One” ad exactly what Obama’s candidacy is about and the ploys that Obama and his enablers are using to try to gain him the presidency. What we wish Hillary and her camp had doen, the GOP has pulled off, and they have done so brilliantly.

I wrote the RNC and McCain’s camp and told them this. I also told them that no matter what fake criticism you come under — like Herbert’s and other such tripe — do NOT let these concepts go.

The GOP has Obama dead-to-rights now. They know it, Obama’s Team knows it and the mainstream media knows it. The dossier is complete and so long as the GOP continues with this tact, there is no way Obama will be able to win in November.

And that is why entities like the NY Times is making a fool out of itself with blogs by the editorial staff seeking to refute Obama’s playing the race card: The cat is out of the bag now. The GOP has clearly delineated for the electorate via some ads and talking points this week just what Barack and his enablers are doing. And the voters have responded, and Obama is tanking.

The People Magazine strategy has been fleshed out, and the vapidity of this ridiculous stunt candidate has been laid bare for all. Just like Paris Hilton, he is a joke being perpetrated on the American people. Only the flavor of this ruse is white guilt and the Latte Liberals’ (including the media’s) breathlessness for it, and not the train wreck rubbernecking people engage in with an attractive if mindless heiress.

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 12:16:35

Paul:

The idea that the “Celebrity” ad is a hat tip to the Harold Ford ads, and that it in any way is about race and the white women/black men canard is either willful ignorance or pure fantasy.

The likes of Herbert and The Huffington Post are floating this trial balloon,

That canard was also circulated by a pitiful editorial of the NYT : what a joke they’ve become!

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-08-02 12:37:49

It was, Andy, definitely.

And then they looked like fools because their blog/editorial blew up in their face the following day when Axelrod admitted on Good Morning America that Obama had, essentially, played the race card.

The Obama press corps is terrified right now. They can see where this is going, and they’re all on the hook for the enabling they have given to Obama. When he falls, they will fall, too. So they are taking mad stabs like Herbet’s and the Editorial Board’s to try and staunch the bleeding.

They’re doomed. As long as the GOP executes as it is, Obama is going to be destroyed.

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 12:43:31

Paul: I cross fingers you are right.

Herbert’s piece is disgusting; after all the trash he threw to the Clintons…. What a sorry excuse for a reporter…

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-08-02 13:05:03

Totally agreed, Andy. Good comment.

Herbert is just another Eugene Robinson trying to make this entire thing about race and get in Obama by any means necessary.

It’s a disgrace to MLK’s legacy.

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:51:26

That’s why the NYT no longer gets a dime from me.

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-08-02 13:03:58

Good. They are a joke.

 
 

Comment by whoframedrudy | 2008-08-03 01:48:47

I’ve never been a big fan of the Times, anyway. But when you look at what a freak show the old, respectable NYT has turned into over the Obama campaign — some of the stupidest, most dishonest editorials I’ve ever read — it’s more evidence of how toxic Obama is to this country.

 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-08-02 17:59:52

Paul there is a “humerous” tone running through the most recent McCain/RNC ads underlying the seriousness of the issue in question. Respond to “Floppry” with “mockery”. As a quality is this part of what you see?

(BO hosts a Tupperware party)

 
 

Comment by jjran | 2008-08-02 11:39:35

I’ve been saying this from the beginning of the primary and I’ll say it again. There’s no way in hell Obama can beat the republicans in November. Now way no how. Obama is weak, and flat out inept. If you notice through out the entire dem primary Obama never took a single postion and explain it in his own terms. What he did was jumped on Hillary’s positions and explanations stating that he agreed with her. Nobody ever pressed him to explain. He wicked his way throught the entire primary. Then when they finally got him to answer tough questions in Philly, Obama fell. Next day he complained that the questions where hard and that he would not take part in any more debates with Hillary. That was when he gave Hillary the finger and said Hillary attacked him because she was going through “ups” and “downs”.

I don’t care whether you are black, white, asian, hispanic, native american, jewish, green or whatever you call your ethnicity, if you have as much as a half brain in your head, you wouldn’t not support or vote for Obama. He’s nothing but a fraud and a worthless fool. Let the dem lose this Novemeber and the lost has to be big so that they get their head off their asses. And that is a change one can believe in………..

 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-08-02 11:40:21

Have we forgot about Poll Land?

Barack Obama was for race baiting before he was for it.

 

Comment by salt | 2008-08-02 11:42:06

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 11:16:14

yep hard for voters to feel bad and believe that a man like Obama a Untied States Senator, multi millionaire, friend of the rich and powerful, beloved by fans, living is a massive mansion is the victim of evil doers. give it a rest, unfettered entitlement is just as ugly.

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-02 13:17:30

No me, above name hijacker, again

 
 

Comment by Paul3triple | 2008-08-02 11:44:11

I just love it! It will be a landslide for Mac. And if they ever debate he will really be exposed.

Also the person who said republicans are racist, that is mighty unfair and the same thing Obama is saying.

One thing this election has given me is a moment to step back and realize the partisan hackery.
Dems slime the pubs with the same shit about smears and so forth.
Their both crooked ass parties. Byrd is a klan member. I do not know of any klansmen on the pub side.

painting everyone with a broadbrush is wrong. It is why politics is so fucked up as well. everyone has stereotypes for each party and assumes that means everyone in the party.
We would not think so little of these poeple if we placed more faith in them and quit making them out to be monsters. (also, if they started getting things done as well!!) They may act a bit more decent if poeple did not automatically assume they were trash.
We need to stop the hate on both sides.
Poeple will not come together until we stop demonizing them.

 

Comment by Joe Smith | 2008-08-02 11:44:34

Laughable to hear The One say that McCain is distracting from the issues – Barack Obama’s primary campaign was a full tilt assault on Hillary Clinton’s character from day one.

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 12:12:58

What issues? I never heard Obama talked in substance about ANY issue at all? And will all the flip floopping going on these days it is not even clear what his minions put in his campaign webpage is valid anymore…

How about his new reversal on offshore drilling??
And the $1,000 break for gas — after laughing off HRC suggestion of gas tax relief. Of course (!)
Obambi says that he ‘ll pay for thatfrom a tax on teh windfall earnings of oil companies…But wait…where did I hear that before; whose idea was that one from? YES: HRC !! The very same one the embarrasing presumptus candidate kept stealing from:
ideas, votes, the nomination, what have you.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:51:00

To Obama, HE is the issue. It’s all about Him.

Count how many times this jerk says “I”.

 
 
 

Comment by cdo | 2008-08-02 12:15:44

Obama is making this election about himself. But people who can’t afford to drive to work and are in danger of losing their homes and can’t afford a doctor simply don’t give a shit about Obama’s skin.

He is going to lose unless he starts talking about MY problems and stops talking about his.

I know why he doesn’t want to talk about my problems…he doesn’t know a damn thing about them, and doesn’t care.

I am going to vote for John McCain, but not because I think McCain is gonna do anything better for my family. My vote will be against the democratic party who should have nominated a better candidate. My vote is against Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Donna Brazile. My vote is against a party who thinks I am dumb enough to vote for whatever unqualified shill they put in front of me. No thanks, Howard.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-08-02 12:24:14

He is going to lose unless he starts talking about MY problems and stops talking about his

Very well put.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-08-02 18:55:40

Obama cannot think about anybody else’s problems. He’s a narcissist. Everything is about him and he perceives everything through that prism.

 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:53:00

Poor howard The Hood Ornament. Obama’s got the guy driving a drab green bean picking bus all over the country pimping for Obama. He keeps meeting up with all those “downscale” Hillary people holding signs though. Must be rough on his ego.

 
 

Comment by JS Ruby | 2008-08-02 12:26:39

I always think of BO in the same way I think of the Wizard of Oz. All Smoke and Mirrors, with NO substance.

HRC

Comment by mimi | 2008-08-02 12:52:55

Yes. But the curtain was torn down long ago.

There’s no way to repair this candidate.

 
 

Comment by Ben David | 2008-08-02 12:28:40

What obama is really pissed about is the fact McCain called him on this race bait charge before obama and some mediawhores could switch it around and blame McCain. Remember obama and his campaign and surrogates and willing mediawhores did this to Bill and Hillary.
I am proud of McCain for doing this to such a deserving guy.

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-02 12:39:12

Good point !! I think you are right.McCain’s quick reaction aborted and fully exposed Obama’s race baiting intent.

 
 

Comment by Hmm | 2008-08-02 12:29:23

I wonder if Bob Herbert is in love with Obama and jealous that Mccain used Brittany in the ad and not him.

Something seems to have pushed him over the edge.

 

Comment by helen | 2008-08-02 12:53:05

The new democratic party forgot that old saying

” you can not fly with eagles if you work with turkeys”

They selected a turkey and most true democrats wanted to fly with eagles so they left the party.
They forgot that turkeys get stuffed and eaten.
I saw a video of how eagles when they get older go to a barren site and renew themselves.

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS AND BUBBAS RULE

Comment by Pink Panthers | 2008-08-02 13:24:19

To Obama and the leadership of the new democratic party:

“Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwnqqj5Q1BU

Country Before Political Party

 
 

Comment by samb | 2008-08-02 12:56:57

In Obama’s speech he makes a reference to (They) who is (They) the republicans? could it be me or you ? he dangles it out there as to say there is a invisible force waiting to swoop down on you, he knows what he is doing.

 

Comment by need to know | 2008-08-02 13:20:49

It’s too iffy by half, but the Globe (tabloid) this week is commenting that supposedly heavily funded investigations are underway to determine if Obama has a love child out there in his murky past, to substantiate rumors of such. Investigators are having difficulties because ALL past BHO acquaintances, friends or foes, have been warned off to keep their traps shut about his past. Discovering a BHO love child would be a bombshell, especially if there was non support involved, since BHO’s Father’s Day speech about too many black men copping out of their fatherhood responsibilities. These are the first harsh word about BHO in the tabloids to date, except for mention of him and a one night stand with a blond prom queen from high school days much earlier.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:49:17

Well why not? HIs old man had them all over the globe.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:49:57

…Besides, the only person Obama really wants to have a love child with is himself.

Comment by Patti | 2008-08-02 19:15:33

LMFAO so bad I had to interrupt another post.

and this notion…

 
 
 
 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-08-02 13:25:42

Obama was for race baiting before he was for it.

 

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Comment by Ferdberfle | 2008-08-02 13:35:40

I thought he was against being for race baiting prior to be being for being for race baiting. This is the kind of nonsensical bovine excrement that comes out of his mouth daily.

And they say the man can speak. Yeah, he can talk a lot, having two faces from which to pontificate.

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-02 18:48:19

Obama’s most used lines:

“What I said was….”
“That’s not what i said….”
“What I meant was….”
“I have always said….”
“I have consistently said….”

Comment by Patti | 2008-08-02 19:19:31

like I did when the steel mills went down in South Chicago…

LMFAO

but no, a baby was killed there playing THIS summer.

 
 

Comment by Patti | 2008-08-02 19:13:38

Tuesday Corsi comes out on the streets with Obama Nation and I have been paid up with Andy Martin for over a month. Man, I am sooo ready for the beach.

My humble advice to John McCain:

Just tell him, ‘Uh,om just messin’witchaman. Thazall. He git it. My fingers are flayed, big time, brother.
Keep it Simple, S.

Ommwitcha, Daddio. like
When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again..

 

Comment by alee21 | 2008-08-02 19:19:33

People should read Sean Wilentz’ s many articles on Obama playing the race card. His articles appeared in TNR, HuffieP, Philadelphia Inquirer and others.
He had very methodically chronicled how the Obama camp vilified the Clintons with charges of race baiting.

BTW, does anyone remember the ridiculous op-ed piece written by Orlando Patterson in the NYT about Hillary’s 3am ad being racist?

I just don’t know what has come over the AA journalists and academics – are they really buying into the Obama hype? Do they really believe in the charges of race baiting?

Let’s take politics out of it and have a real discourse on race relationships.

Also, the US is multi-racial – Asians and Hispanics too.

I don’t happen to agree with the AA charges; I don’t believe in an education debt either. Asians are immigrants too, we and our parents, grandparents and great grandparents came to this country without much in the way of worldly possessions and made their own way, through education. It can be done, with dignity and hard work, without resorting to accusations and mudslinging.

 

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Comment by sakel | 2008-08-03 19:40:55

LISAB – THANK YOU!

This is one of the very best analysis I’ve seen on the race-baiting of Obama and Axelrod.

You also refer to the SEXIST CARD played by the BHO campaign.

We should itemize the “flip-offing” of smirking and using his midfinger to demean and degrade Hillary Clilnton in N.C. day after his pathetic performance at the ABC debate! This is a huge YouTube megahit:

‘OBAMA GIVES HILLARY THE FINGER” — diminishing Hillary and vengefully like an immature teenager “flip-offing his fellow female Senator! WHO CALLED OBAMA ON THIS?

“The claws are coming out”! “periodically, she feels down and launches attacks…” The ’snub’. She’s “likeable enough”!

Ludicras is on his ipod! He had 2-hour private meeting with this misogynist jerk and Luda claims he’s getting a pardon and out of the slammer if his buddy Barack becomes the President!

Then we have BERNIE MAC who calls “mothers and sistah” “just our Family Whores” or ‘hos in Barry Soeroto’s gutter language!

If a video were made of this certified misogynist’s comments and actions….guaranteed the PUMAS would multiply in November!

Thank you No Quarter and LisaB!

 

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