The Latest Florida Poll [Update]
By SusanUnPC on August 2, 2008 at 12:00 PM in Backtrack Obama, Barack Obama, Florida, Off-Shore Drilling
No wonder Barack Obama is scrambling to pander to those in favor of off-shore drilling. When even Floridians are changing their minds about off-shore drilling, it’s hard for some, apparently, to hold fast to their “beliefs” (if they have any). [UPDATE: See LisaB's Polls and Race-Bait Fallout."] Via the Tampa Bay blog, part of the St. Petersburg Times newspaper:
New Florida poll: McCain 45, Obama 40
In a new poll released by the Florida Chamber of Commerce, 45 percent of Florida voters said they would vote for Sen. John McCain if the presidential election were held today. Forty percent said they would vote for Sen. Barack Obama. Fifteen percent were undecided. …
The Palm Beach Post has another story, “Obama would consider off-shore drilling as part of comprehensive energy plan” — and notes that both McCain and Obama were campaigning in Florida yesterday:
ST. PETERSBURG — U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said today he would be willing to open Florida’s coast for more oil drilling if it meant winning approval for broad energy changes.
“My interest is in making sure we’ve got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices,” Obama said in an interview with The Palm Beach Post.
“If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage - I don’t want to be so rigid that we can’t get something done,” Obama said.
Off-shore drilling has become a push-button issue in the presidential campaign since Republican candidate John McCain announced his support to open more of the country’s coastline for drilling in order to reduce gas prices. Both candidates are campaigning in Florida today.
Obama has opposed exposing more coastline to drilling, saying that oil companies have not fully explored the areas open to drilling now and insisting that it would have little immediate impact on prices at the pump.
After speaking to a capacity crowd at Gibbs High School auditorium in St. Petersburg, he told the Post he would be open to expanding the current drilling boundaries if it meant winning approval for more fuel-efficient cars, developing alternative energy sources and making the country more “energy independent.”
“I think it’s important for the American people to understand we’re not going to drill our way out of this problem,” he said. … Read all.
Memeorandum.com links to several blog reports on this article.
Notable: None of the liberal blogs is referencing this article.
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mr flip flop says anything to get the votes…watch and wait for all the other flip flops to come from his nasty mouth..he is really arrogant..
I want to discuss this ‘arrogant‘ label for a minute since it’s a bone of contention with regard to AAs.
It is true that historically that AAs who owned their humanity were considered arrogant, i.e., they didn’t know their place. That ‘place‘ was as a slave.
But in the context of this election, the term used to describe 0bama is one that he has earned. He’s hiding behind the historical reference and trying to exploit it for his own personal goal.
In the broader context, arrogant people, those who are full of themselves with undue pride and a sense of self-importance, also implies persons who are not necessarily bright or intelligent. If you look at the people in your own circle that you would describe as arrogant, it’s probably also true that they are this way without any basis for feeling so prideful.
What exactly has 0bama accomplished in his life that compels people to feel that he is the One. He’s won several elections, all under dubious circumstances, including this one. He is not MLK. He’s not even Malcolm X or Abe Lincoln.
He’s a politician who has yet to prove himself. Yet, he’s full of himself. And he’s trying to get elected on the premise that he’s an AA and therefore deserves to win.
People need more.
His routine got old fast.
And once Hillary was out of the picture, he’s frankly, boring.
He stands for nothing. He can’t even use his old stand-by, the Iraq War, because the Surge, which he was against, has worked.
So exactly why is he the nominee again?
mimi, so well said. The sad thing is most people who choose to use arrogance as a racist term, simply prefer to, not in an application of without experience or merit. I concur.
So true, Mimi. The words arrogance and presumptuous apply to Obama not because he is an AA, but because his words and actions reflect the very meanings of those words. To try to recontextualize these and other words to imply racism is not just ridiculous, but manipulative! Luckily, the American public is catching on. Sorry, Precious, but you can only cry wolf so many times! As a person of color, I resent his crying wolf because he makes talking about race in a substantive matter impossible. Obama is not post-racial; he’s uber-racial!
Also, I agree that without HRC the coverage of this election b/w BO and JM is pretty boring!
“Uppity” used to be the code word. (from slavery- for those who worked in the house; modern day I believe it is still used within AA commmunity for “sellouts”.) Can no longer use uppity because Rep branded Hillary as such. Uppity for Hillary because she does not know her place.
obama is arrogant.
He also uses a lot of his blue blood heritage to show the world that he’s royalty. Like the other day when he challenged McCain it a duel.Barry is in act descended from the Pilgrims and some relation to the common ancestor of Wild Bill Hickok: Thomas blossom.
I think he has a tough time relating to AA issues, like poverty. His advice is just eat less, turn up the thermostat and inflate your tires.
McCain has more compassion by a mile by the shear fact that he adopted a dying Bangladesh baby. She is not AA, but a lot of Americans only see skin color.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if McCain chose Bobby Jindal for VP.
Gallup has ‘em tied at 44-44 again. http://www.gallup.com/poll/109180/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Obama-Remain-Tied.aspx
I wish they’d do an occasional update poll with Hillary as the possibility. We know she was outpolling Obamaniacal before.
I just sent an e-mail to Gallup suggesting they include Hillary once a week or so. In fact the website asks for comments:
This from today’s Rasmussen report of their daily tracking poll.
What is even more interesting is this:
Looks like PUMAs are leaving the party.
Fell for the second straight month. That means since the illegal activities of the DNC/RBC, Dem membership has fallen by 2.5% . That is a lot of PUMA’s. I changed to unaffiliated, after 30+ years democrat, on June 2nd 2008.
Country before Party.
Hillary 08!!!!!
And that drop probably doesn’t even count those of us in states, such as Texas, that don’t register voters by party at all. We have open primaries, and your registration card is stamped “Voted Democratic(or Republican)” when you request your ballot. I know a lot of life-long Dem voters who decided months ago to go with McCain if Obama was the nominee. Even in my dependably deep blue county, with exactly ZERO elected Republican office-holders, a local newspaper’s poll shows McCain coming in at close to 40%, with about 5% going for Nader and Bob Barr.
And that, in turn, means Obama’s in serious trouble with Hispanic voters, even though it may not be showing up in polls that don’t differentiate between, say, Mexican Americans in South Texas and Cubans in Miami.
We finally got our UNA Cards yesterday!
Very interesting. I was IND but never UNA before - feels like a PUMA CLAW!! hehe! Yes!
(ok fingernail if you want to be picky) giggle.
Rev James Manning, the Harlem pastor, laughed the other night after the Ludacris debacle and said “Ludacris has just delivered the Presidency to McCain.”
The one had a bad week and going down quickly.
The dems held out on drilling to get big oil checks and the one will lead the way like on FISA.
After being heckled, he came out against apologizing for slavery and reparations.
Barry is Kerry.
The SD’s should flip flop and run Clinton.
gotalife — This time Obama threw Pelosi under the bus. She refused to hold a vote on Drilling because she knew Obama was against it and moderate Democrats were going to vote with Republicans. Obama is only loyal to Obama.
Exactly…
Will his bloated ego, and fact he’s tanking in the polls cost him the nomination in Denver (it should) but time will tell. Playing the race card wont work for DumBO in the GE, so what does he have left to defeat Mac? Nothing!!! America wont be duped by this empty flipflopping race card playing suit.
you know Steven Ybarra, Sacramento California, sold his SD vote to Obama the other day for 20 million. Supposedly for voter education program for Mexican Americans.
Would someone please tell me what’s so difficult about voting that it requires 20 million dollars?
Yea when he loses Florida 60/40 (gathering the WHOLE lot of undecideds)
LMAO I will be rolling hysterically on the floor ya’ll!!! NO LIE!! I will buy a bumper sticker saying —- WE TOLD YOU SO!! (and I usually NeVER act like that I swear!)
You can get an ‘I Told You So’ bumper sticker over at Liberal Rapture right now.
Yes…Yes You Can!
I guess the 5 million Obama spent in FL this month didn’t make much of an impact… oh, by the way, McCain spent… ZERO. ZILCH. NADA in FL this month.
WAKE UP SUPERS!
And we all remember how DumBO’s big FAT Million dollar Media buys couldn’t defeat HRC either!
He’s toast Supers! Do the right thing!! Give us back our WINNER NOW!!!!
Hillary 08
All who can read a poll, or can count,
Watch all the evidence continue to mount,
If on Obama’s train you’re aboard,
Florida spoke, and the news is untoward.
The neophyte to the national race,
Is finding it harder to keep up the pace,
Once Pennsylvania falls, he’ll be done,
For Johnny McCain the race will have been won.
well done!
clap clap!!!!!
PUMA
“U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said today he would be willing to open Florida’s coast for more oil drilling if it meant winning approval” of Florida voters, that is. Considering that China, Canada and Spain have all stated an interest in joint ventures w/Cuba to drill in the waters between Cuba and Key West Florida….A little late on his part, I would say.
As a former Delegate in the St Pete area..I can tell you //this will anger the enviornmentalists and progressive activists big time..in fact huge..in fact I got a call from one this morning so angry ..she was almost irrational.
Maybe among repubs that will make them happy..but just chalk this off as another group Barky has lost and angered beyond belief in the dem party!
You are absolutely right, Queenie. I am wondering how the Sierra Club is feeling about now. The last two days they have been running an endorsement TV ad here in Ohio touting Obama’s bona fides on the environment. It must have been a big buy as the Columbus, Ohio ads have been playing often and on several different stations.
Queenie, please tell her to check out the PUMA movement.!
He noticeably did his flop on the day congress went on vacation for 5 weeks and won’t be back until after the convention. So nothing will get done as usual, but nothing gets done when they aren’t on vacation. Congress needs to be fired for this. How can they leave when their country is struggling to just get by. They have no love of country and don’t feel the least inclined to listen to the people that they pretend to represent. There needs to be major housecleaning done.
With the statement at the end, this one is going on TV…hee hee… I hope he buys prime ad time on the most popular spanish language soap opera.
Since Pelosi made such a big stink about not allowing any vote on offshore drilling to the point of turning off the Repub Ten mics and lights, does anyone else see this as another one under the bus for Barry?I mean she made such a fool of herself showing solidarity with Barry (almost intimacy) like she was his mother.
The next day he reverses himself, leaving Americans to question the audacity of Pelosi in not addressing these pressing economic concerns. Of course, she is on of the wealthiest women in Congress, so she’s not really being affected by the crisis.
I guess this would go along the same lines as he is willing to renegotiate Nafta, right? The man is a liar you can’t believe anything he says.
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/new-mccain-web-ad-world-according-obama-video-8108
can’t find this one on utube the one at the site doesn’t seem to be working
He said Madrid(Spain)but he forgot Latin America! Angry Latinos, thats sure
OOH my gosH! I just thought of something you know McCain and his Wife and campaign must be doing the HAPPY DANCE this weekend!!!!
At a time when DEMS should be CREAMING ANYTHING WITH AN R thanks to GW!!
It’s beyond believable that my X Party has screwed up sooooo badly. I could never be part of it the way it stands this day.
Maybe if they grow up and elect the TRUE ADULT I might change back (in 4 yrs) maybe.
BIG TRUST BROKEN in my heart.
May never heal.
dawnelle — ditto
So if repubs bash him on any issue during this campaign, it appears Obama will eventually capitulate.
Hardliner agianst retro immunity w/FISA — caves in and votes for retro immunity
Firm adherent to the standard Dem policy against offshore drilling — caves in to drilling.
Firm adherent to immediate withdrawal from Iraq — caves to a tempered view, then un-caves, then re-caves, then…who can keep track.
Blames NAFTA for woes in rust belt, then after some pressure from freetraders & Canada decides NAFTA isn’t so bad, then later decides NAFTA is pretty bad, then later…auuugh, who can keep track.
The guy “won” (cough) enough delegates in the caucuses and some primaries by being the candidate of the pure left-wing of the party. And now that that pesky Hillary has been shoved aside by screamin’ Howie, he can get back to politics as usual.
The DU, Kos, and TPM gang backed a purist and got ripped off. Its rare that the ripoff is so evident before an election — heck, before the candidate is actually nominated!!!!
I have to imagine that supers are secretly thinking they should’ve shut up and not gone along with the tidal wave of BO love in late May/early June. And now they’re stuck because they don’t have the courage to vote how they really think now.
Kerry or Hillary would have a 7+ point national lead right now. Edwards (minus the obvious affair now - idiot) would be up 5+.
In this climate, just about any Dem should win easily this year. But more and more this is smelling like another Ned Lamont pick by our pals in the netroots.
Hey HILLARY backed Lamont and I did too!
Lamont won!
Lieberman should have been a man and stepped aside but his love for the limelight no matter keep him there.
I do not like him.
dawnelle — the netroots picked Howard Dean too.
They tried to get Paul Hackett elected too but he lost to the more qualified candidate who is now for Obama I believe?
Hackett (I feel) would have stuck by Hillary because of her support from various Generals, etc.
but I could be wrong
HOwie couldn’t get ELECTED dog catcher right now!
Hackett didn’t lose to Sherrod Brown. He dropped out on Valentine’s Day 2006.
Lieberman is an ass.
HRC would win by 8-11.
Give 3% to the third party candidates
Therefore:
HRC: 53%
McCain: 44%
Third: 3%
With Obama,
I would give the third parties 6% (more disaffected voters).
McCain: 48.5%
Obama: 45.5%
Third: 6%
Considering the state of the nation as a result
of mostly Bush/GOP policies, that 3% win for McCain is a 1984 style blowout.
Of course the MSM wouldn’t point to OBambi being DOWN in the polls…
The ofshore drilling reversal is astounding….
Deja Vu all over again !
Obama opposed offshore drilling before he supported it….
Here is a report on this:
In major change, Obama says he’ll support offshore drilling
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46174.html
And I highly recommend this commentary from Jennifer Rubin:
A Week Late 8/01/08
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/18901
correction: off-shore
Oblowme would endorse killing and eating puppies if he could make a buck off it or get a vote from it.
The only immutable things about Oblowme are his
insatiable need for power;
adoration;
monetary gain;
And the fact that he is a racist who will demand
reparations.
Nancy Pelosi must LOVE this!
BTW-I actually heard a woman call into one of the news programs and say that JM was being racist by comparing BO to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton! How ridiculous is that?!
SEE as an X DEM I have a hard time with the above stat as well. We were well into a failed war and broke back nation by 2006 (ala Bush) and that small difference seems very wrong to me. jmo.
Would someone please give me some insight into why Dean and Pelosi continue to promote this horror show. One would think that they would consider their own self-preservation and try to redeem themselves before the “fall”. This all seems to defy logic to me.
option 1 - maybe their ancestors held slaves? And they are feeling personal guilt?
option 2 - Stupid? (not likely with their positions and degrees)
option 3 - Scared of BHO’s BLT CULTist
(probably)
option 4 - hey they haven’t voted yet. You have no idea how they will vote. (not likely)
Pelosi, Dean, Brazile and the likes, are closet republicans planted in order to disrupt the democratic party. This is my paranoid assessment of the situation we’re in. I cannot find another explanation as to why did they throw a lifeline called Obama to the republicans.
Pelosi is under the mistaken impression she can control him. Because of his lack of information, experience, and stance on issues as well as his well-known habit of being lazy and just riding other’s coat tails on legislation ( just showing up for the press conferences). But Nancy is wrong, wrong, wrong. You can’t control an egomanic and Nobama is for nothing except himself. Her eyes are premanently frozen in a wide-eyed position from all the bo-tox. She should have seen this coming. She was so afraid Hillary would steal her glory but Nobama is going to cost her her crown.
Hillary would have lifted Pelosi UP with her,
Obama will keep his thumb on Pelosi IF he somehow can win.
annie — that is the great question–why do they continue to promote BO? Yesterday Pelosi put her arm around Obama’s waist as they walked off together.
To say this is unusual for Party leaders to so embrase one candidate would be an understatement. When Clinton was running in 1992 party leaders went out of their way to say that the Presidential election had nothing to do with their elections.
Is Pelosi still breast feeding Obama or is he on the bottle now?
Pelosi, et al, continue to embrace Obama because - should Clinton get the nod - they are completely screwed after stabbing Hillary in the back.
Ah…but wouldn’t it be grand!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Karma RIGHTEOUS KARMA!!!
They have no self preservation at this point.
It’s pure ego.
They hate the Clintons and they will go down with the sinking ship before admitting they are WRONG!
Good!
I don’t like either of them anyway!
Good riddance!
That has been the most puzzling aspect of this entire election season for me. Why the big push for this neophyte? I have read many articles and posts on many sites and I still for the life of me cannot figure out what Dean, Pelosi, and Reid are up to. Brazille I understand. She just wants a black man elected President and she wants power.
My best guess is that it is just hatred of the Clintons. And that in itself is puzzling and troublesome. I have some concerns about some things that occured during president Clinton’s term of office too. But I do not hate him. And I think he was far better than his detractors portray him. And Hillary is her own person with her own ideas.
William Clinton is the only two-term Democratic President since FDR. The Clinton’s were great fund raisers for the DNC. And So the hatred and desire to purge the DNC of these two good folks is very puzzling.
I wish I knew WHY the DNC supports Obama and what they are up to. Whatever the reason it is tearing the traditional Democratic party apart and that is very sad for the future of this country and for the regular working class citizen of America that FDR championed.
The simplest theory I can come up with is Donna and Howie decided after Kerry’s loss that the Democratic party needed to be redefined and rebranded. They wanted to attract the youth vote and minorities - two large voting blocks that are very apathetic about voting. They decided that someone like Obama could attract these blocks while Hillary would not. Plus they perceived HRC as unable to connect with voters before this primary. So they sold their souls to Obama without even really knowing or vetting him and the whole plan backfired. They couldn’t conceive of HRC becoming the kind of candidate she became by the June. She was the star all along, but they’d already put all their eggs in the Obama basket.
As far as power issues - the nominee appoints the head of the DNC (Obama quickly reappointed Howard Dean in June) Hillary would have tossed him out on his ass and he knows it. So for Dean it was life and death to squash her.
Pelosi resents any woman having more attention than her. She’s just petty and short sighted, she also may have some personal issue with HRC, but she will pay dearly in the end.
Donna - the architect of the plan - I almost feel sorry for her. I think she sincerely thought this would rejuvenate the party. But it became a runaway train that she no longer controlled.
That’s my theory!
I think you are on it today. Great post.
Thinking about your theory. I agree with it 100%, but the part about the young vote. I mean, eventually wouldn’t they run out of “new canidates” to fuel the young vote. I mean a “black” president is only cool now because of the popularity of hip hop. In 10 years, hip hop may be “old”. What then, are they gonna put up a teen bop queen?
It may be true, but its foolhearty. Maybe they are really that dumb. Eventually those “young voters” will grow up. After electing their first rock star and having to deal with the regret and broken promises, they will learn to NOT trust the democrats. They may, in effect, be creating new Republicans in the long term, not democrats.
this is the Deal “WHY AMERICANS HATE DEMOCRATS” How To Tap Into The Obama Factor. They thought Obama could get the Church Vote, something the DEMS never got. http://www.slate.com/id/2109328
“I will keep the moratorium in place and prevent oil companies from drilling off Florida’s coasts,” Obama said in Florida in June.
“If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage - I don’t want to be so rigid that we can’t get something done,” the paper quoted Obama as saying.
Obama’s ‘positions’ if they can be called that, are like shifting sands. What I notice is that when Obama invariably changes his position, his statements become considerably more verbose - BO’s common method of attempting to conceal his prevarications.
joe smith — notice how Obama changes his positions on Fridays or just before major Holidays.
Ha! No, but I’ll be watching for it - BO is truly the mirror-image of Bush.
IF HE IS, you know we are in BIG ASSED TROUBLE!!
CUZ GW STOLE THE ELECTION IN 2000
(witha little help from his friends)
BAMBI has FRIENDS (I do NOTTTTT LIKE HIS FRIENDS)
sorry I’m doin a lot of roaring all of a sudden!
pumaaaaaaa
NQ should start a Barack position change watch and post the latest flip-flop each Friday.
Excellent Idea–maybe in the form of a time line or something that is flash enabled so you can scroll down the line of shit. Actually make the time line a bunch of bulls, then when you scroll over each position, it craps! That would be good.
Regardless of how many ACORN-ites Ofraudma deploys to Florida, or how much pandering he does with the Latino community, I cannot see him winning either there or in Ohio, two states Hillary won in the primaries and would win in the general.
If he loses those two states, there is almost no way that he can win the presidency. Forget about ‘opening up’ new states: He will be hard-pressed to retain states such as New Jersey.
EDIT: ‘hard pressed to retain blue states’
I agree Paul, Ohio is the key.
Cuyahoga County is having some SERIOUS Democratic party issues. The FBI raided two major players — including the chairman of the county Democratic party last week for corruption. It is going to be a ripe opportunity for a republican to get votes in what is traditionally a heavily blue county. If the republicans handle it correctly they could really turn Ohio deep red … especially by capitalizing on Obama’s NAFTA snaffus … Howlie Dean is going to be bald by November.
What I Love is this:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/open_letter
An Open Letter to Barack Obama from “The Nation” asking him to stop flipping on issues.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr…..
PUMA
wah wah wah …. I love it. They bought the book by reading the jacket and now they don’t like the twist the plot is taking …. tough cookies.
LOL: The Nation begging Obama?
Are they surprised, really? What a bunch of morons!! I’m sure they are thrilled by the off-shore drilling flipflop now as well.
Vandenheuval is another one I would like to reach through the TV pop her in the head like the V8 juice commercial!
DOH! COULDA HAD A REAL DEM!!
They are sounding pathetic..begging for Obama to keep his word!
He has shown NOT to be a man of his word..that is the essence of what makes him not trustworthy AND THUS not electable
The Nation joins the list of of lefty activists
such as Moveon.org, Dailykos, Huffingtonpost,
Ameriblog, Air America (or is it “Anti-America”) Radio, and The American Prospect whom all
villified Hillary Clinton making her into
something she never was: a petty, opportunistic,
power hungry, politician. All of the horrible things
attributed to HRC are really what Mr. Obama is all about. The Nation can drop dead with the the rest of them.
I agree with Dawnelle Leona del Puma, I would love
to reach through my TV and rip Ms. VanDeheuval
a new one for the all the crap that she spewed against HRC.
Freddie King would say
He’s going down down down….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHXKlNP4-Aw
oK LOL I remember THAT from the 70’s!
Basic Training NCO Club!
And THAT folks is how we can travel back in time! (chuckle)
Thanks!
The sweet, sweet irony! Bloggers like Kos could not stomach the thought of Hillary as president because they were so sick of “politics as usual”.
Unfortunately, dimwits like Kos don’t read real books. If they had any understanding of the history of democracy as a form of government they would realize that the way pols operate today is basically the way it has always been done. It isn’t the people IN government who are responsible for how maddening democracy can be…it is democracy it self.
But a system that relies on consensus is always going to have watered down versions of whatever legislation.
Kos and his ilk also have no sense of recent history, or they would know just how stupid they were to trash the Clinton presidency. They would have known that Hillary did not spend 8 years serving tea and cookies.
Markos, Josh Marshal, John Avarois, and the rest of the blogger boyz get what they deserve with this candidate. Obama does not give a good god damn about their progressive platform. What makes me scratch my head in wonder is where on earth they ever got the idea that he did!
Good luck with that messiah thing, Kos! Don’t forget to take your daily dose of kool-aid fellas, you are really gonna need it in the months ahead.
Here here! Very well said.
payback time.
I agree with you about Kos- He too has an over inflated ego. I also think Pelosi, Dean and the DNC figured because we, the democrats were so angry at all the crimes that Bushco and his supporters committed that we all would blindly follow them for the take back the WH from the republican insanity.
What they did not figure on is many Dems, now independents and PUMA believe in PRINCIPLES, Truth and Honesty, votes count, and the rule of law, and seeing the blatant fraud of the DNC turned us off as two wrongs don’t make it right.
That they ‘threatened us, bullied us and then disenfranchised those of us who supported Hillary, mostly because she had proven herself to be the best democratic candidate, will only hurt those DEMS and idiots like Kos who think they know whats best for the party. They are wrong on so many levels. Walking Lock-step for anything is undemocratic, and especially wrong if the candidate is not qualified.
Country before Party Loyalty is what most Americans have been starving for, not just any democrat, if Obama is even a democrat. We’re sick and tired of being divided.
Well, they figured wrong.
I am angry at Bushco, but I’m not so angry I can’t see straight.
They also think that the electorate is stupid. Boy, are they in for a shockaroo.
They also have overestimated the Independents and these young people.
And they are leaders.
Barf!!!!
I agree with everything you said AND have a slight GROAN knowing that WE are also stuck with BHO!!!
I hate paying for other people’s mistakes ALLLLL the time! (since 2000)
(thank GOD I’m not alone but too bad there are not ENOUGH like me)
PUMAs are (there are no adequate words)
but it’s better than the BEST!
I will never forget how the Young Turks made
a joke out of everything Bill and Hillary did.
Worthless SOB’s that they are.
I remember when they had Jackie Mason on.
I do NOT like Mason, but he was on their show (via phone) for an interview. He had to hang up after 5 minutes because Cenk would not let him get a word in edgewise.
Mrs. Butterworth is out from under the bus, and has her own take on the offshore drilling waffle.
http://ohmyvalve.blogspot.com/2008/08/guest-post-by-mrs-butterworth-special.html
THAT was hilarious! I left you a comment saying so over there! Thanks for the laugh! I needed it!
Wonderful. Satire. Who knew?
Why the RACE CARD played now..what’s Axelrove trying to drown out
This is an example of what yesterday’s SUSA
Missouri, 3 Months Out:
Among voters younger than Obama, the contest is tied. McCain holds 87% of Republican voters; Obama holds 83% of Democrats. Independents break 5:3 for McCain. McCain leads by 28 points in southeastern Missouri, by 23 in southwestern Missouri, and by 21 in the northern portion of the state.
Add Strickland says he can’t bring Ohio in for Obama…..
McCain (R) 49%
Obama (D) 44%
Undecided 7%
Obama has a problem with women over 40:
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Posted: 3:31 am
July 31, 2008
IF soccer moms determined the out come of the 1996 presidential race and security moms tipped the bal ance in 2004, it’s beginning to look as if older moms are the key to the 2008 contest. Barack Obama has a problem among women over 40 and a big problem among women over 50. These groups, normally the staunchest of Democratic supporters, are showing a propensity to back John McCain and a disinclination to support Obama
Barky NObama and his spin crap on a new map- what a freakin’ joke! That will go down in history as one of the biggest political baboozlements of all times! The map is the map. Hillary was a sure winner with guaranteed solid wins in OH, PA, FLA and Arkansas. NObama would win in the west?- what a joke. And he had the ba!!s to call Hillary Annie Oakley.
I think Americans appear to prefer the Harry Truman of this race John McCain. When you try to be fascinating all the time you end up being a bore. See ya Obama — your 15 minutes of fame is up.
I wonder what happened to the BOTS they usually post here?? Maybe the flip on Drilling made them quit being BOTS
More likely it’s caused them to go back to the mother ship for fresh kool-aid enemas.
So if repubs bash him on any issue during this campaign, it appears Obama will eventually capitulate.
Yeah and glamour puss in his lofty interpretation of his flip is he is working across the aisle together…lol
….and please please recall the Dem nominee that didn’t support the Cheney Energy Bill was Clinton, Obama largest lobbyist is Exelon an energy company….
I have a procedural question for fellow PUMAs.
This is a complex question of logistics, and we should perhaps address this in closed session, in our secret KKK Klavern.
A brief outline:
We will each need a great deal of popcorn to sustain us thru three more months of this utter drivel.
With the conversion of significant amounts of corn land in America to the production of ethanol the price of popcorn has increased significantly.
I propose a PUMA Cooperative popcorn receiving warehouse, centrally located, where we could receive
shipments in tractor trailer loads. From there it could be shipped to individual PUMAs by UPS.
We might save a little money, but then this is a complex logistical issue, and I am a bit fuzzy on logistics.
Don’t forget we need butter for our popcorn.
Obama’s supporters may be very, very busy right now re-cutting the 5 million dollars worth of ads they bought to run during the Olympics.
I can hardly wait to see them!
McCain really nailed Obama on his prima donna shtick, so I imagine they are removing all the shots of Obama in front of his adoring throngs.
I have a mental image of a frantic editor screaming, “Don’t we have any footage of Obama on a farm??!!”
Tip for Obama’s editors–avoid using footage of Obama bowling. No shots from delis either. And nothing with a church. Or anyone in a hospital. Or a gas pump.
Nah the way Obama’s publicist staff in the MSM pundit class, see it, it is pretty simple if you say anything and you are not AA or an Ocolyte your a racist making a racist attack on poor Obama holding him back because of his skin color, a millionaire US Senator who lives in a massive mansion period, especially if they are trying to distract from another Obama failure like his highnesses recent out of country publicity jaunt, which now that the reviews are in was as we all knew a Flop and only Herbert, Robinson, Clyburn, Pelosi, KO and of course Obama himself, I am the ONE the WORLD AWAITS, claimed a success. Or the new CNN poll, or the Gallups polls both or the Ras poll or the USA Swing State polls like MO yesterday with the O losing, Strickland of Ohio admitting he cannot carry Ohio for the One the Fla poll here and on and on
“Kos and his ilk also have no sense of recent history, or they would know just how stupid they were to trash the Clinton presidency. They would have known that Hillary did not spend 8 years serving tea and cookies.”
The most Hillary hating an Kool-aid intoxicated; Markos, Arianna and John Avarosis were (are?) Republicans.
And they will never get over their bias from their Republican years. Unless, they have been Republicans all along and are trying to sabatoge the Democratic party?!?
Let me get this right. Obama’s energy policy consist of pretty much nothing except INFLATING YOUR TIRES.WOW! He thought that up all my himself?
Now, we have obama shifting his stance on off shore drilling.Could it be obama has seen his numbers falling like a rock? Could it be the republicans have an issue handed to them by the Dems? You know obama is in trouble when you have blacks in a campaign rally protesting him.(if this would have been HRC the media would have told us these protesters were planted) What should have happened if those protesters would have gotten up one at a time and started shouting, “REPARATIONS, AND WE WANT IT NOW!”
Well, “THE ONE” has spoken and he’s left all those democrats in congress who denounced drilling, time and time again, hanging out to dry.obama,Flip-flops when it’s expedient.
Folks, we got the wrong horse in this race or rather the one trick pony while our “Seabiscuit” has been put out to pasture, but oh do we all know she has several more races left.
HRC the right person that should be our nominee and not “the idea” of obama.
Susan thanks for posting this. Apparently Obama is spinning so fast in Florida, you could use the energy from the spin to run your car for a week.
Recent news articles in the last hour;He’s running scared.
Obama Accuses McCain of Being `Cynical,’ Not Racist (Update1)
By Kim Chipman
Aug. 2 (Bloomberg) — Democratic Senator Barack Obama, poised to become the first black presidential nominee of a major party, rejected John McCain’s claim that he’s playing “the race card” and accused his Republican rival’s campaign of cynicism rather than racism.
“Let me be clear: In no way do I think John McCain’s campaign is being racist,” Obama said at a news conference today in Cape Canaveral, Florida. “I think they are cynical and want to distract people from talking about the real issues.”
bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a2dhkzm2.6Zk&refer=home
No Arrogance Here, Says Obama
by Aaron Bruns
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla - Barack Obama told reporters that John McCain waged a cynical campaign of distraction over the last week — which many political observers say McCain won by rattling Obama with negative ads that took him out of the race’s driver’s seat.
Taking questions from reporters for the first time since returning from his trip overseas, Obama continued to defend himself against his rival’s charge that he played the race card by telling Missouri crowds that McCain would use his different appearance to try to scare them into thinking he’s a risk. Racism, he said, wasn’t the “ism” he was alleging.
“In no way do I think that John McCain’s campaign was being racist,” he said. “I think they are cynical. I think they want to distract people from talking about the real issues.”
blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/02/no-arrogance-here-says-obama/
On Offshore Drilling
This wasn’t really a new position. What I’m saying is that we can’t drill our way out of the problem,” he told reporters. “And if we can come up with a genuine bi-partisan compromise in which I have to accept some things I don’t like, or the Democrats have to accept some things that they don’t like, in exchange for actually moving us in the direction of energy independence, then that is something I am open to.”
blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-attempts.html
or the Democrats have to accept some things that they don’t like,
Did Americans miss the significance of turning the lights off and going home? Was there a message other than we don’t want to talk about it?
All McCain has to do is come up with a new issue every two to three days and Obama is as lost as a goose in a hail storm. McCain talks about opening up offshore drilling and Obama thinks inflating the tires on his car is a better idea. Saying “we can’t drill our way out of this problem” implies he may think we can hope our way out of this problem. Now he can only follow McCain’s lead (since Hillary isn’t answering for him yet). Can’t wait to see what McCain will bring up this next week. :). Maybe he will talk about his war record so Obama can talk about his 20 year stent in the TUCC. LOL!
Picture Obama sitting on Axelrods lap a la the musical Chicago singing “We both reached for the race card(sung to the tune from Chicago, “We both Reached for the Gun.” ~Couldn’t help myself.
[REPORTERS]
Where’d you come from?
[Barry(as Roxie)]
Hawaii
[Barry(as Roxie)]
I met David
And he stole my heart away
Convinced me to run for President one day
[Chris Matthews as MARY SUNSHINE (spoken)]
A Harvard Boy ! Scratching your way through college!
oh, it’s too terrible. You poor, poor dear.
[REPORTERS]
Did you fight him?
[Barry (as Roxie)]
Like a tiger.
[David]
He had strength and O had none.
[Barry (as Roxie)]
And then we both reached for the racist Mud
The mud,to be slung
Oh yes, we both reached for the racist Mud
The mud,to be slung
The mud, the mud, the mud, the mud
Oh yes, we both reached for the mud
For the mud
ATTENTION: KMART (and WaLMART) shoppers!
I have an idea! For Sen. McCain.
There is not much you could do to lose ANY of your constituency (they are pretty much scared shitless of Bambi) AND Soccer Moms, Security Moms, Moderates & even some LIberals are beside themselves from the HYPOCRISY of this whole election cycle so my prayer to you SEn. McCain is that
YOU SIR, HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE
For Gentleman’s sake (honor) could you consider asking Hillary to be your VP??? What a healing that would be and YOU really don’t have anything to lose.
The HILLARY haters on both sides will STILL BE THERE….. the others might see it as I do as a great healing!
just think about it okay?
why not?
what a historic event that would be!
MONUMENTAL!!! PROFOUNDLY EARTH SHAKING!!!
just think of the headlines!!
landslide win too btw
just sayin
Dawnella Leona del Puma (love your name) Wouldn’t it be the best, but she won’t cross over and I don’t think McCain can ask her, but one thing is, they have always worked well together, on many bills and projects in the senate. I believe Senator McCain, as President would have Senator Clinton on his cabinet, or at the very least in a high ranking committee position to fully utilize the resource of knowledge and understanding Senator Clinton is.
why would she have to cross over?
Rep Pres
Dem VP
the do it with GOV’s in Montana!! and elsewhere! right?
better than McCain/Kerry BS
at least Hillary is no #insult inserted here@ KERRY!
lol
LOL-I know, I agree, I think the DNC actually has a rule that this would have had to been done earlier or something like that. I believe McCain and Hillary could work together, easily. They are both decent, hard working people who put country first.
Yeah! According to Sinclair ol Baraka could lap dance to that one .
The Florida Chamber of Commerce is a racist organization out to sabotage Obama. Hell everyone knows that McCain can not be ahead of god in the polls. That is shocking–SHOCKING, and downright mean of those Floridian racists saying god is coming in at second place. After all god did leave his name on the ticket in Florida and the DeeniWeenie wanted to give it all to god and that’s the way it should go down– they’re (the racists) are just messin with you man. ;(
Pahahahhaa!
Please god, if anyone is profiling anyone its you. Your statement boils down to this, “Florida is full of racist religious zealots. Give me a break man, its you who is being prejudice.
I live in Palm Beach County Florida and I’m telling you right now that Florida is going Red!
Faux scroll says BIG MAC was in FL asking for swing voters to “help me get over the top”.
AWW love that, asking us to help him what a novel approach, not a pandering flipfloppin fewl, I like that
I am in AZ, if Hill is not on the ticket I am going to do footwork for BIG MAC in NM
I agree Alice Paul…I’m in Miami and no-way no-how is Hussein Oblabla going to be even close to winning Florida.
Does Robert Wexler live in Florida or in Maryland? I just saw a little of the story, but is there a chance he can be defeated? He rented a house there this week, but is there a residence requirement? I would love to see him lose his seat.
There are residency requirements but when the news broke here in Fla. it stated they were vague.
I think he’s pretty popular. His district went for Hillary but he is supporting OBIE.
He’s served six terms! I hope this will be his last, he’s a weasel.
They picked it up on the Faux scroll! BWAAHAA
Pelosi has EGG all over her face…
sorry sweetie dahling!
the GOP will AHMMER her with this all thru the GE now
she shut the lights off refusing to vote on it and the SAME DAY Obummer tells the press he WILL vote for it …
Hannity is gonna have a BLAST
Elrushbo too
karma chameleon dance
those who live by the flipflopper, die by the flipflopper!
WooT!!
LOL. BO’s trying to give his ardent fans ulcers. His gang members have been panning McCain for supporting off-shore drilling, and now they have to do a WORM on BO’s flip-flop support for it. How much more abuse can the BO fans take from their idol?
It appears the democratic power brokers who are catapulting Obama to become our nominee actually have very little confidence in Obama’s ability to compete in the presidential race. This is what necessitates this constant “rock star” status for BO.
With this in mind, wouldn’t it be wiser if Hillary were our presidential candidate and OBAMA THE VP, rather than the reverse????
That was my “dream ticket” from the beginning. Obie could spend 8 years at the feet of Hillary, realize how much he doesn’t know (holy Sh**!—thank God I lost the primary), get some actual (vs. made up) experience, and then maybe he would be ready in 8 years. His kids would be in the mid-, late teens, he could give it his full attention. I think the fact that he has small kids, is only 46, yet he wants to assume this responsibility also speaks to his extreme egocentricism.
I see Pander Bear is at it again.
What exactly does he stand for?
Obama doesn’t get it. He sinks in the polls because he flips flops on an important issue to democrats. So the more he sinks the more he flip flops. This guy is so behind the curve.
To win in November, McCain must keep Florida and Ohio which I expect but he has to take a state away from Obama like Pennsylvania or Michigan! Reagab Democrats in those two states have to vote for McCain.
McCain has always been the moderately progressive voice often voting with HIllary on issues. He’s voted less than 75% with his own party. While The Precious anorexic resume-holder voted 98%–shows inflexible mind and lack of gravitas to go against the grain when it’s good for the country (like Hillary often did!).
The dirty rumours by the Bush-leaguers against McCain that he had fathered an illegitimate child with a black woman destroyed his candidacy in 2000. (Cindy McCain refused to allow her child to be exploited by the media, unlike the Obamas!)
Now, the Obama rats tried to destroy Pres. Clinton’s reputation in the black community by playing their dirty race baiting card! Well, they won’t succeed, it seems, with McCain’s campaign.
McCain’s not afraid to throw back the punches the way of the Axelord-Obama dirty politicking machine!
Can you immagine The Precious giving over the mike to a Woman to discuss an issue she may know more about than He?! Like McCain did when he gave over the mike to Carly Fiorina to discuss an economic issue!
Come November the Pumas will be shredding the Chicago rats to bits, and throwing them back to the Chicago sewers where they belong.
Just one beef with the McCain campaign: Why didn’t they use Madonna along with Britney and Paris? She’s the One with the Marketing Genius after all…
Go Pumas let the Chicago rats hear you roar!
Please watch the youtube hit that’s forming part of a documentary on the Obamarama’s dirty caucus dealings. It’s phenomenal– from Brad May’s PumaPac…
“THE AUDACITY OF DEMOCRACY”….
Brad Mays’ new political documentary is going to be a big hit. View the trailer!
Obama cannot win without the support base that was going to be instrumental in electing him—Older Women.
But since he is more likely to join Ludicras in a second rapper act (”Obama gives Hillary the Finger” was his first hit) and then Bernie Mac in a routine praising family values (”mothers and sisters are just family whores!”), he should submit his anorexic resume to SNL and hope to get the rapper comedy routine act. Trust me, he will! He’s got the skills. He’s got the misogynist talent to boot!
THE NOBAMA STRATEGY:
In states where McCain’s sure to win, vote Cynthia McKinney or 3rd candidate you like.
In states where it’s a toss up or where Obama’s likely to win, VOTE McCAIN!
NOBAMA ‘08
GO PUMAS, ROARrrr