Also, check out Ned Beatty’s great speech in NETWORK; and you must see/review THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR, which showcases the internecine battles within the intelligence “community.”

Please, argue your points on the merits, but don’t let yourself go to the dark side . . . .

I think this sign of protest would go far in making our point quite nicely at the convention. Perhaps we could also wear brown T-shirts as an ironic gesture.

Why do you think that lying will help your candidate?

A quick journey through the archives of KOS and the Huffpo is the strongest example of a fear and loathing attack based on endless streams of Republican and Obama Camp developed rumor and unfounded allegations that has occurred in this campaign. Also, non-Obama democarats were barred from these sites.

Senator Obama, his campaign (e.g. Clyburn, J.J.J.), and his supporters set the bar for dirty tricks. You are receiving blowback. Your complaint reminds me of the lawyer who tries to defend the boy who murdered his parents by asking for mercy because he is an orphan.

You broke it. You bought it. You own it. In other words, suck it up, Buttercup.

Steven

Anyone who has a clear understanding of how the republicans brought down Gore and Kerry to steal the 2000 and 2004 elections should be able to grasp what the republicans are up to in 2008.

The low-ball tactics that Obama supporters are constantly accused of are actually the tactics of those attempting to destroy Obama and the democratic party. They’re the tactics of those who are making the accusations. So don’t try to lecture me about hypocricy.

Who’s been running a series of personal attack ads on national television? It hasn’t been the Barack Obama campaign. Which blogs and forums are fizzing with fear and loathing of the opposing candidate, and of all of his supporters, and cranking out endless streams of rumor and unfounded allegation about the opposing candidate? Not the Barack Obama blogs and forums.

And don’t start crying for “reason” after you did everything possible to crush that very thing during the primaries.

You should seek therapy for your unreasonable arrogance. Then you can come back and apologize for treating the Clintons and those who supported them like trash.

Reasonable argument works only with reasonable people. Facts are only relevant to those willing to consider them. Sorry, but that’s all I have to offer, and that’s obviously not what you’re interested in.

BTW, I hadn’t seen those DailyKos suggestions until someone thoughtfully posted them here. They strike me as being dead on target. Some could profit greatly from paying particular attention to the last two paragraphs. If you have valid points to make and hope to persuade someone of their validity, that’s the way to go about it. Insulting people that you hope to pursuade simply isn’t effective. Ask anyone who’s been successful at anything.

When a man like Clinton really wants to help you, he comes with half a dozen ideas and says “You pick the ones you like and I’m there for you.”

Does Obama really think the Big Dog is going to grovel for him like all those half-wit super-delegates he has bought?