Also, the military I talk to think Hussein is a wimpy little chameleon. Don’t trust him at all with their lives, as a Commander in Chief. In fact the very thought of Hussein as C in C, elicits roars of laughter! He couldn’t run a lawn mower up here!

Isn’t it time for the Dems to dump that loser Obama? before the convention — or would that take away from Ted Kennedy’s grand entrance (you KNOW its going to happen — especially if it looks like Barky is in trouble). In fact, I think the entire Dem convention is one big choreographed and scripted sideshow.

Only Hillary could shake it up and get the election back to a contest between two adults with significant voter appeal across the US. Then I’ll watch the debates and the TV again. Not until then — because I think the dem party has lost its base and is fractured beyond belief! Who would have thought that Howard Dean and Obama w/ Donna Brazile could have done this much damage? They should be run out of Washington or Chicago or wherever.

That there should be no new offshore drilling at all is a fundamental democratic principle?

Do you want to cease domestic mining? Is that democratic policy?

We already talked about FISA and the Energy Bill.

And why shouldn’t Obama be getting contributions from Wall Street? The republicans certainly do.

If you’re worried about lobbyist connections and questionable corporate contributions and influences, you’d better take a closer look at John McCain. McCain campaign headquarters is the lobbyists’ version of Grand Central Station.

Support for nuclear power. Obama is tied to Exelon and their executives. Exelon is the largest nuclear operator in the U.S.

Support for offshore drilling.

Support for the mining industry (he condemned mining reform package as too hard on the mining industry).

Support of FISA Legislation.

Support for 2006 Cheney-Bush Energy Bill (McCain and Hillary voted again the bill which gave massive tax cuts and taxpayer dollars to oil and energy companies).

Obama gets his money from Wall Street investment banking firms.

The list goes on and on.

For someone voting for Obama, you don’t know much about him.

Do your homework.

And where and when would that be?

How about a few examples of Obama’s republican talk or positions?

Please don’t bother with vague references to FISA or 2005 Energy Bill again. That topic has gotten way beyond wearisome.

He missed 80% of all votes from September 2007 to November 2007.

Obama missed a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. He criticized Hillary for voting for it.

He missed voting on a Democratic priority, the expansion of the federally funded State Children’s Health Insurance Program and a resolution condemning MoveOn.org for running an ad in the NYT attacking Gen. Petraeus.

Take this back to your crew and rewrite the script.

I know McCain strongly opposed the 2008 GI Bill, then failed to show up to vote on it.

I know McCain also skipped the vote on FISA altogether.

Which big votes did Obama skip?

Obama seems to have voted 151 times more than John McCain. That quite a few votes, isn’t it?

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 01:36:04

He voted the same as more than half of all democrats in the Senate.

and

Comment by ziggy | 2008-08-07 02:52:38

over one-half of all democratic senators voted the same as Barack Obama.

You were the one that used the everybody else jumped off the bridge so it was OK that BOBO jumped too argument. You’re to old to be a child so leaves the only other option…empty mind and empty soul. LOL, BOBO isn’t change we can believe in. According to you he’s just any old wildebeest following the herd around on it’s quest for the next mouth full of grass. And No, you don’t need top pack it in. You do however need to keep doing what you’re doing. Follow your “leader”. Get your nose down real close to the ground… and get yourself something to eat. (LMAO) Your life depends on it

I don’t particularly like the 2005 Energy Bill. I’ve mentioned that in here several times, in other threads. I’ve also posted references to the bill that detail a long list of criticisms. I’m aware there was plenty to be critical about. Yes, Obama cast a vote that on the whole I didn’t like. Along with over half of his fellow democrats. And damn, he cast another vote I don’t like. FISA, of course. Along with a lot of other democrats.

You seem baffled and angry that I’m not disillusioned. What you’re missing is that I didn’t have illusions in the first place. I don’t expect any politician to be a perfect expression of my opinions 100% of the time. There is no such politician.

What I’m doing is comparing the available candidates, vote by vote, point by point, policy by policy. When I’ve done that–Surprise! John McCain is a republican! 95% of the time he’s voted with Bush policy, and on the things most important to me he’s still pushing Bush policy. And Obama is a democrat; the great majority of the time votes like one. His voting record is almost identical to Hillary Clinton’s. He promotes the same policies as Hillary Clinton. Apparently I’m not going to have the opportunity to actually vote for Hillary Clinton, so…

If you get entirely away from policy and votes and compare people, I suppose I can’t argue with those who just don’t like Barack Obama. He punches the wrong buttons with a lot of voters. A lot of voters seem to have a great many buttons to be punched.

I don’t play that game. For one thing, I don’t have a strong personal dislike for John McCain. I just dislike his votes and his policy. I don’t think his economic plan makes any sense. I believe he’s locked into a paradigm that’s time has passed. I worry about his quickness and the reliability of his judgement, given the extreme stresses of the presidency, his age, and his mental status.

My idol doesn’t have feet of clay. I never had an idol in the first place. There’s just one guy who comes out ahead of the other when I make a point-by-point comparison.

Of course, it doesn’t hurt that the guy has an ability to fire up and motivate. There’s an undeniable Obama phenomenon among youthful supporters. With the young, he punches a different set of buttons. Why should I object to that? Young people vote.

But I think the messiah will fool enough minions to do slightly better.

Sadly!