Eligibility Challenge State-by-State: ACT NOW
By Dr. Kate on August 7, 2008 at 1:00 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama
TD Foreword: It’s time to TAKE ACTION IN YOUR STATE. Dr. Kate, who’s been researching key questions about Barack Obama’s eligibility to be POTUS, filed this URGENT-ACTION STORY.
The stunning information recently revealed on Barack Obama forged COLB and potential multiple citizenship suggests that Barack H. Obama is not eligible under Article II of the US Constitution to serve as POTUS.
Because the DNC, and likely our respective state Democratic Committees, have not vetted Obama, it has been up to average American citizens to do so. I’ve put this short guide together based on my experience in my very red state to enable others to do so. This is my story.
For my state, and for others, it looks like the deadline for certifying the eligibility of Presidential candidates “under the constitution” to participate in caucuses, primaries and conventions has passed. Obama had to submit papers by Feb 8th 2008 in my state, as did other candidates. So it is assumed that the candidate the party puts forward is legit.
Now we see what the rush with Obama was. Get every state to certify him before any information came out on the eligibility issue—look at how close we are to the convention and he really has just been busted!
Nevertheless, it looks like challenges to eligibility are still allowed, but it may have to be done by the other party in each state. The time is NOW for everyone to get familiar with their state’s rules, and to call their state’s SOS with a basic outline of information, ask for instructions, and ask if the SOS would be interested in assisting.. Each state’s republican party may or may not be interested.
I initially contacted the state Secretary of State and talked with a staffer about certifying Presidential candidates under the Constitution and how it is done, what role the SOS has, and relevant dates for certification. I mentioned to the staffer that I had information relevant to Obama’s eligibility. I was directed to the state Democratic Party, but when I told the SOS I didn’t think they’d do anything, the SOS indicated they would refer the information to the appropriate individuals.
As predicted, when I contacted the state dem party they told me to go to the DNC or the FEC. Well the DNC won’t do anything, and the FEC really regulates money…so I called the state republican party, who was very interested in the information.
It may be that the best challenge will come from a totally “red” state, where Obama has no chance… a red state SOS challenging Obama’s eligibility under the Constitution—would make news and problems for Obama.
If Obama is found to be ineligible for POTUS under the constitution—the same requirement that each candidate had to participate in caucuses and primaries—then Obama was ineligible to participate in the caucuses & primaries!! The whole primary season would either be thrown out or Clinton would have to be the nominee. In many states, I believe his actions could be considered fraud.
Obama is in Hawaii starting on Friday….of course he will come back with a certified BC that has what he wants on it. Thus it is important NOW to start getting the information out so that the first question he gets when he gets back is, “do you have a new Birth Certificate?”
In summary:
Contact your Secretary of State
Contact Dem/Republican Parties
Write letters to the editor
Keep talking/writing about it NOW!
File information with Secretary of State
Here is a website with info of SOS_50 States:
Sample Script
I am calling to request an investigation as to whether Sen. Obama is eligible to be on the ballot for President, in this state.
There are serious questions that have not been investigated.
For example:
It is possible that he has dual citizenship, which would make him unqualified. He has probably been a citizen of Kenya and Indonesia, and may still be.
And, there is concern that the birth certificate he has published on his website is a forgery, which probably means he is hiding something about his birth.
Ordinary citizens like me cannot take on the burden of investigating presidential candidates.
It’s my understanding that your office has the responsibility, on my behalf and the behalf of all voters, to be sure that presidential candidates are eligible.
What has your office done to be sure that Sen. Obama is eligible?
How can I file a formal request for inquiry, or a challenge to his eligibility?
TWO ISSUES for ELIGIBILITY:
1. DUAL CITIZENSHIP: Obama likely had, and may still have, INDONESIAN and/or KENYAN CITIZENSHIP, and therefore is ineligible to be POTUS under Art. II of the Constitution (NOTE: this is NOT about where he was born or whether he’s a US citizen. It’s about DUAL CITIZENSHIP, which creates DIVIDED LOYALTIES.)
2. PHONY BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Obama has REFUSED to show a hard copy of his REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Evidence suggests that his BC may be in the name of BARRY SOETORO because he was likely adopted by his step-father LOLO SOETORO. Has Obama been LYING ABOUT HIS DUAL CITIZENSHIP, LEGAL NAME, AND IDENTITY?
TD Request for Information: If you have state-specific contact information, please put it in a comment.
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I’ll use it, but will change the two “probablys” to “possiblys”.
Thanks a lot!
I posted my results on Texas Darlin.
After contacting SOS office, I was told Obama doesn’t have dual citizenship, his mother is a U.S. citizen, and it’s a federal matter and was told to contact Congress.
Won’t go into the full conversation since it was ridiculous. Got the basic gist that because Ms. Dunham was born in Kansas that no one ever bothered to look beyond that information.
The Democratic Party have just assumed his eligibility.
There must be someone or office responsible to check these documents. Whether it is Obama or anyone else in the future, it would be devastating to the United States to find out a person, who was actually a citizen of another country instead of America, was elected as our president.
It’s too late once the damage is done.
There is always impeachment, but then the Dems who pushed him, will cover for him as well.
I called these offices: Secretary of State, DOJ and Attorney General’s office, FBI in DC and in my town.
I was sent around from the first to the last place. I got phone numbers that were one digit off. I hunted down the right numbers.
At last I spoke to someone at the local FBI office where I was advised that ‘this internet stuff is such a lie that is not even funny’.
I don’t know what else to do.
Please somebody tell me not all lost!
All is not lost. I read on TD’s blog that Texas and NY are considering the challenges seriously. But the more the merrier!
Don’t lose the faith now – we’re just coming to the home stretch!
I am still confused by the eligibility issue..Here is the eligibility standard under Article II..
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
If the newspaper birth announcement is real then he was most likely born in HI. I don’t think the citizenship of either parent would make a difference nor would another country recognizing that person as a “citizen.”
IMO, I think Obama is trying to cover-up the fact that his legal name is Barry Soetoro..would this be a disqualification? I have no Idea.
you are missing the dual citizenship issue…
What about Greta on Fox? She has a lot of connections with investigators. Do you think she could give us some info on who to contact?
I wrote to Ralph Nader about this. He’s really down on Barry right now, says Barry is a disgrace to the Civil rights movement.
If anyone can do anything, it will be him.
I also wrote the elections dept in Florida and the Republican Party.
Nader might bring it up. I doubt the election department in Florida would bring it up. And the Republicans don’t have the balls to bring it up.
Where is Larry Klayman? He should be all over this.
If you go to Texas Darlin’s blog (see right column)you will find tons of old diaries on this subject, every question has been brought up and argued if not settled.
Besides the birth announcement is just that. It doesn’t say where he was born or certify anything.
Which hospital was he born in?
Why was Maya born in Indonesia and Hawaii?
Someone should contact the McCain Campaign. I’m sure they are interested.
repuglies won’t be interested, they know they can beat ol empty suit. They may be corrupt and venal, but they are not stupid.
Oh I think they have readers, who scroll the blogs. This site is very high profile and I am sure they read it. The Polictical Machine AOL comes over here and reads, gets ideas to bash us, Hillary or McCain and goes back and makes fights with the posters over there. Obama is not much more popular there than he is here. A few more paid blogers maybe. I was amazed that someone there actually admitted that he (that would be THE ONE) had 400 paid blogers.
Try the Secretary of State Department in DC…..since they are claiming this is Federal matter:
# Main address:
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520
# Main Switchboard:
202-647-4000
TTY:1-800-877-8339 (Federal Relay Service)
email form: http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
W0WWEE! So where are the MEDIA outlets scrambling to be the FIRST TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH?????
Who the HELL is sleeping while New Orleans SINKS tonight boi????
YOU PATHETIC BAMBI-BOTS~!!
GRRRRRRRRRR!
The Drudge Report is covering some of the opposition to Obama, from Hillary supporters. Maybe if someone from here, someone in charge or TD wrote an article and sent it he would publish it. He had Nance top, front and center today with her book flop. Or anyone from here could send along one of the COLB or dual citizenship. Don’t know that he investigates, but he will print something that is news. He has printed plenty on Edwards and the “love child” the last few days. Worth a shot
Ha! I was in B&N today and saw Pelosi’s book. I almost laughed out loud. I noticed that the Case Against Obama was prominently displayed in 2 locations…
I don’t think any of you really get. The bottom line is that with the internet people are starting to figure out what a SHAM elections are. It won’t matter how many people call individually their state secretary. They could give a shit less.
Unless you have a favor to perform for them in the amount of cash, fame, or favors they don’t care for you as a voter. DUH!
You’re right. Won’t be long until the internet is controlled too. It will be sooner rather than later if bo gets elected.
Not true, Darryl. Most bureaucrats take their jobs very seriously and even know how to get around corrupt supervisors and political appointees.
This is called People Power or Puma Power.
PUBLICITY, and numbers will put a firecracker under their ass. PETITION.
Could someone with the known facts go to Smoking Gun? Would they take something like this. Petition? Yes, but it has to be someone with more knowledge than me. Republican orgs that advertise issues? When he announced he was going to Hawaii, I knew he would bribe and or FIX his birth problem.
“Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-07 13:21:01
you are missing the dual citizenship issue”
How is that a disqualification under Article II?
I think the bigger issue would be if his legal name is not Barak Hussein Obama II and all of
the election forms are not legal.
The argument(see Judah Benjamin series) is that dual citizenship leads to conflicting loyalties, in a nutshell.
I believe I read somewhere that the dual citzenship is recognized only if the other country, like Kenya or Indonesia, recognizes it. And I don’t think they do, therefore, he would be Kenyan from his father or Indonesian from his step-father if adopted. I don’t see where our country should vote for someone who would hold allegiance to another country anyway.
Exactly. If the candidate ever had reason to divide their loyalties between the US and any other country, they are disqualified under Article 2.
Adoption by an Indonesian would offer that opportunity. End of story. Buh bye Barry!
If Obama has dual citizenship, or tri citizenship (U.S, Indonesia and Kenya, his loyalties could lay with any of the three countries. Look up dual citizenship on the government immigration site and it explains the problem of a citizen having dual citizenship.
During WWII some German dual citizens were forceably kept in Germany and made to obey the laws of the Third Reich. Japanese Americans caught in Japan during WWII, even native born citizens who were not dual citizens but were simply visiting with naturalized parents were forceably kept in Japan.
And if Obama is a dual citizen of the U. S. and Kenya – and his cousin Odinga becomes the leader of his nation he could order Obama to support Kenya; and considering that Obama went to great lengths to assist his cousin in his election bid it is reasonable to expect that Obama will support his cousin since he has already broken U. S. law as a U. S. senator to do so.
the POTUS can only have ONE loyalty, not divided loyalties as with dual citizenship.
SHV –
Ballot names – like ballot language – must be approved.
If Oblowme was adopted and his name is not what he has on the various state ballots – only a write-in will possibly be accepted.
Whether Obama can technically verify his eligibility — with a new birth certificate from Hawaii or not — I think the more immediate opportunity is to get some more validation of that fact that the COLB posted on his website is a forgery. If that alone were confirmed by “independent” experts and the main stream media, Obama would be immediate toast… even if he is technically qualified under the Consitution to be president. It would be irreparably damaging to his credibility, it may be be fraud.
I wish I knew how to get the “right” people to confirm that forgery allegations pronto! Quick and easy. No Secrataries of State, no nuanced blah-blah about “natural born.” Just expose him as a liar of the first order.
We’ll probably never know the truth. But Ludacris definitely helped him lose ground. the Uhuru heckling in St petersburg is going to get louder. Ralph Nader is going to keep calling Barry out for his lack of allegiance to civil right issues. The UHURU people are having a convention 9/28. Ralph knows that Barry is in the corporate pocket.
I expect the next think will be Cynthia McKinney calling him out on his lack of commitment as well.
Pardon me for being cynical, but the DNC is full of ignoramuses, deliberate obfuscation, lies, and planned venality. State governments probably haven’t had this sort of challenge to deal with, and so employees don’t have a lot of know-how to deal with such an appalling situation.
Republicans: I think that is the best bet, especially Republican lawyers at a high level in the state or national party. In my state, NM, think about how far I’d get if I lodged a complaint–Judas Bill’s territory in the State government.
Who would have thought “real folks” would be dealing with such issues?
Is Fitz busy?
This is most likely the truth. The republican most likely already know this stuff, they are waiting for the DNC to nominate him, if its true. The DNC, leadership, being retards, discount it outright and don’t bother to check and end up screwing themselves in the end. Classic ignorance.
I think you’re right.
Just a question – some countries claim first-generation as also citizens of their country. Does that make them dual citizens? What about Jews and Israel?
According to British Commonwealth citizenship laws, Obama is eligible for citizenship through his father.
that is correct. Me personally I think he was born in Canada, also under British rule.
So? what that got to do with being a US or
Natural Born citizen???
Again, divided loyalties. Don’t you read?
Regarding Jews and Israel. You have the right to “claim” your Israeli citizenship but you have to actively claim it. It is not a automatic. If you do claim your right to Israeli citizenship you have to serve in their armed services.
VOTE THE DEMS OUT..THEY DON’T SEEM TO CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT OBAMA…
I sent a note to the Indiana Secretary of State about Obama’s questionable eligibility to be on the ballot. We’ll see what they say.
I also sent an email to the Indiana Sec of State on Tuesday too. Maybe if enough people question his eligibility, they will have to look into it.
This dual citizenship matter is of consequence. Its
unfortunate that up til now, we have not found any-
one of integrity in the MSM or our leadership who has
cared enough to vett this candidate.
Texas Darlin’ and others have done the great work
investigating the many questions that exist. These
are NOT new questions. But, as we are seeing, the
“sham” is still unfolding. Where is the MSM? Did they
make a pact to ignore these issues? It is an outrage
that they not take this seriously. Do we think that
Hillary would such a pass? NOT!
Question: Larry, had you thought about going on
Hannity or Cavuto on FoxNews on this subject? Just
asking.
SC’s election process is controlled by the State Election Commission. I was told, when I called there, that nothing is vetted by the State — they just arbitrarily accept the candidate that the DNC has qualified as being Consitutionally legal.
So we’re stuck with the DNC. . . .
My suggestion is go find a Republican attorney, call them and ask, then see if he’ll give you the pro bono half hour and drop it on him. He will know if he can file an injunction against Obama’s candidacy until he proves IN CIVIL COURT whether he is eligible or not. Civil court has much more flexible rules of evidence and a judge has more leeway in demanding info.
Just a thought…
If there are any lawyers or judges amongst us, could they not be of help getting to the right people? I can’t believe there isn’t some way to get these government employees to pay attention. We do pay their salaries after all. This is a huge issue that should not be brushed aside by incompetents because someone doesn’t want to do their job or doesn’t want to pay attention to the taxpayer citizens. Don’t give up folks.
FYI: There is an article on MSNBC.com under the Politics section regarding whether a foreign-born American can be President. They cite Schwarzenegger as an example.
Schwartzenegger is a totally different case; plus he campaigned in Austria for a Nazi for president after he became a naturalized citizen of the U.S and his father was a Nazi during WWII and he has never repudiated him. Even if it was constitutionally possible for him to be a candidate his hurdles are as high as Obama’s.
I saw this comment over on TD’s blog.
See Atlas Shrugs for details.
Also, here is some good advice about contacting people in writing:
If you email, send copies to media outlets as well. It is the best way to get the lazy MSM on the story and light a fire under the proper authorities to do their jobs.
Will any of this do any good? Seeing as how Obama will return from his Hawaiian vacation with some sort of “legitimate” copy of his bc. He will have that done before the FEC gets moving on it.
It might… because even if he returns from Hawaii with an “airtight” BC or COLB, he still has to answer for posting, on his site, a forgery.
If the story breaks in the media (tomorrow) it will be too late for Bam bam.
I might suggest that any correspondence be sent by Certified or Registered Mail with Return Receipt Requested, to a specific individual, and mark the message/envelope/or?: URGENT.
There are thousands of letters, emails, phone calls to the “top” personnel and the one who does the leg/telephone work may see the letter next month, or the secretary may think it is a crank anti-BO and file it in the shredder. Emails may be considered as “spam” without a good Subject title, and disregarded.
Just my .02 as I really would like to help with this “problem”…..Trying to get Greta at FOX by phone might be worth a try….use a “private” or “matter you’d like investigated”…or whatever you can come up with to get thru to her personally. You might also mention the “PUMA” group.
C-span’s “Washington Journal” has an open line call in show every morning about 8 or 8:30 to 9 a.m. CDT, and could be called on the “Republican” line….they post phone numbers on screen.
Write, call, or fax Senator Joseph Lieberman, Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs department. Tel: 202-224-4041 Fax: 202-224-9750.
I just contacted my secretary of state about Obama’s ineligibility because of dual citizenship and the birth certificate forgery. I hope to hear from them soon.
VOTERS, YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT! YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT TO DO!
Since this has never been done before, even our elected officials have no idea how to ‘do it.’ And, obviously, they are not going to spend time figuring this out. In fact, challenging a candidate who submitted his name to be placed on the ballot for the office of POTUS in the general election is really quite simple, according to the laws published on-line in each state. Generally, you have to wait until he submitted his name to the Secretary of State to be placed on the ballot. The candidates whose names are submitted by the two major parties to get onto the ballot have until after the official nomination at their respective conventions to get those names onto the ballot. (PLEASE NOTE: FOR ALL OF YOU READING YOUR STATE ELECTION LAWS, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN DEADLINES BETWEEN CANDIDATES WHO ARE NOT BEING PUT FORWARD BY MAJOR PARTIES AND THOSE WHO ARE. THINK ABOUT IT. IF CANDIDATES FOR THE MAJOR PARTIES ARE NOT CONFIRMED UNTIL VOTES AT THE CONVENTION; AND IF THE DEADLINE IN TEXAS TO GET ONTO THE BALLOT IS AUGUST 22, THEN HOW CAN EITHER THE DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN NOMINEE APPEAR ON THE BALLOT IN THAT STATE?) Challenges can be based on both procedural and substantive factors, such as failure to satisfy the legal requirements to be a candidate for the office, including citizenship.
SOMEBODY CONTACT
JOE WILSON
Valerie Plame’s husband.
I live in Western WA and will be voting for Congressman Larry Ishmael R rather than Jay Inslee D, because of Inslee’s support of Obama as a SD in Denver.
I wrote to Mr Ishmael, informing him of my new found support of down ticket Republicans and he has been very graciously corresponding with me.
I wrote to him about Obama’s COLB etc etc and his eligibility for POTUS and he responded like this:
Hi X, Thank you for your support. I will look into it and find out about the rules. We were living in South Africa when our second son was born and I know that even though we are both Americans, he can never run for president because he was born outside the US or an American protectorate like Puerto Rico/Guam/US Virgin Islands/Marshall Islands, etc. Barack was born to an American mother and a Kenyan father but was born in the US. That certainly begs the question, doesn’t it? I know that children of illegal immigrants are automatically given US citizenship, so it would stand to reason that Barack would be a citizen, but eligible for the presidency is another question. Again, I will look into it.
Larry

US House of Representatives
WA 1st Congressional District
Larry Ishmael for Congress
218 Main Street, Suite 500
Kirkland, WA 98033
425-896-8499 (office)
425-891-8377 (cell)
larry@larryishmael.com
Yay! Larry
I wrote him back and sent him to TexasDarlin’s site with ALL the info
More response than I EVER got from a Dem, about anything, sad to say.
Bell!
Muchismas gracias! I’m in Western Wa also, as are, now that I think of it, a bunch of us! Thanks for firing off the note! You have motivated me.
Instead of sending money to any campaign we need to hire an attorney or an army of attorneys to attack this matter on behalf of us as a group in a class action manner.
Instead of money send a copy of obama’s website birth certicficate, send two.
This forged birth certificate stuff is all out of date now. There WAS no forgery. The expert, Techdude, turned out to both a fraud and an imposter. He is no longer being discussed by his 2 biggest blog patrons – Atlas Shrugs and Texasdarlin.
Ray
LMAO you still can’t produce those 15 examples to support your allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist, can you Ray?
Ray, I suggest you go to Texas Darlin’s website and replicate the analysis before you say the fake certificate of live birth is not being discussed. And when you’re finished, post your findings so everyone there can discuss them with you.
Ray, I suggest you go to Texas Darlin’s website and replicate the analysis
There’s nothing to replicate. There’s only random dust marks and flaws caused by electronics all over the COLB. Techdude reckons he can sort of join-the-dots with those marks and IMAGINE Obama’s sister’s name being there. It’s not of course because it’s theoretically impossible and no one – not even Techdude can supply an image.
He even imagined the sister’s name (which is longer) extending BEYOND Obama’s name, when in reality there can only be plain background there.
anchovy.
you are wrong, dude. And you should be worried.
Obama is TOAST, even IF he is eligible, he is responsible for submitting a forged document on his website.
He’ll be in jail or fined by the time NOV rolls along.
I think maybe the best action is to address the fraudulent birth certificate as the crime it is, the other actions may be putting the horse behind the cart so to speak. Maybe legal action against the origonal posters? Just throwing it out there.
“I think maybe the best action is to address the fraudulent birth certificate as the crime it is”
There wasn’t any forgery. To use Major Mori’s famous quote — “They made it up”.
I’ll use my words Ray. You made up those 15 examples you said you had to support your allegation that Texas Darlin was a racist.
Yes – super sleuth, and legend in his own lunchtime “Techdude” who imagined that Obama’s COLB was forged, has done a runner!
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha….. Ray, LOL you’re a bullshit dude who will fabricate anything to defend your dear dear BOBO. It was your allegation of racism against Texas Darlin. You had your chance to man up and produce the 15 examples that you said you had to support that allegation. But alas, we found out you’re not a man. (LMAO) You are all that you are ever going to be, a little BOBOweenie frantically running around screaming at your demons.
J O E W I L S O N I S T H E M A N
who can find out.
1)He is a true Hillary supporter
2)He is married to Valerie Plame.
3)He is a former ambassador. Embassys are all
about passports.
4) He and Valerie have IMPORTANT CONTACTS.
DON’T ALERT PRO-REPUBLICAN PEOPLE
Joe Lieberman is a Republican in disguise. McCain
does not want to run against Hillary.
Obama’s Birth Certificate Site Forced to Shutdown:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/obamas-birth-ce.html
PETITION TO INVESTIGATE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE UPDATE: BLOG SUSPENDED BY GOOGLE:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/petition-to-inv.html
They must have made a significant threat to not only shut down the petition, but to make them apologize so profusely. OMG!
Hillary and Bill need to know, if they don’t already. ALL this information on [DELETED BY ADMIN] Obama’s place of birth, citizenship, etc is ALL IN HIS PASSPORT FILE, which was breached 3 times during the primary. I’m sure at least 1 time he had someone into it changing information. Hopefully, the Clinton’s or the republicans were in it before that.
did I hear you that Techdude was a fraud?
yeah, Ray has been on a rampage for the last couple days LOL. If he engages you ask him to produce the 15 examples he says he has that support his allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist. If he does produce anything it should give us all a chuckle as it will surly give us a look deep into the kool aid laced mind of the rabid BOBOweenie.
“If he engages you ask him to produce the 15 examples he says he has that support his allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist.”
Could you repeat that 15 more times?
oh ray, LOL you’re never going to live that one down. Once you concluded that you were a bullshit dude, you ceased to speak with any credible voice.
“did I hear you that Techdude was a fraud?”
Yes. I posted the URL which contains the evidence at the Atlas Shrugs blog but it (along with other posts relating to him) was deleted about half an hour later.
(Wink wink) just like those 15 examples that you said you had to support your allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist were deleted from this blog…(LMAO) Right Ray?
Producing illegal or fraudulent documents for any purposes is considered to be a CRIME. I want to see MR HUSSEIN OBAMOT TO GO TO JAIL SOONER BEFORE THE CONVENTION.
I’ve seen no evidence that the COLB is forged.
Techdude has claimed to find the name of Barack Obama’s sister on the document, but his work cannot be replicated. To my knowledge, he has not once shown a jpg displaying those results.
Frankly, and I do not say this lightly, I think he and the others leading people down this false trail are operating in bad faith.
And we’ve seen no evidence that Barack Obama, registered as the son of an Indonesian citizen, is not a citizen of another country. The false trail people have been heading down is the one Obama made for us to follow – now there’s bad faith!
“Techdude has claimed to find the name of Barack Obama’s sister on the document, but his work cannot be replicated. To my knowledge, he has not once shown a jpg displaying those results.”
Yes, it was one of many wild goose chases Techdude sent many people on. With that particular hoax, which i didn’t get sucked into, it should have been realised that after a name is masked with the background pattern there is only a fine perimeter of artifacts a few pixels wide surrounding the text area, and they would rarely give any indication of what characters had been – even in their pristine state immediately after masking, but after new text is added those old artifacts are munged by more by rge news JPG artifacts – making it impossible to see anything remotely useful.
Even in a crazy situation where a forger DID leave in ONLY the artifacts on the very thin perimeter, the text would be detectable as computer generated, rather than scanned text from a paper COLB.
Besides all that, Techdud and his cohort never DID produce the “magic” image – not will they.
Ray
So Ray, hows that goose chase to get those fifteen examples you said you had to support your allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist coming along. Find the goose yet..LOL or are you still ducking?
hows that goose chase to get those fifteen examples you said you had to support your allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist
Okay, that’s one, now we need 14 more.
Ha Ha Ha Ha sorry to disappoint you Ray but that’s not an example. But then if at first you don’t succeed, Lie..right Ray?
Francis, Ray, se, believe, runningdoglackey, or whatever name you go by, with all this time and attention you’re giving to this issue, you must be an obamatron who believes deep down that there is a smoking gun here and you are very worried.
If, on the other hand, you believe this to not be a story and you’re not worried, then you are still an obamatron and a mucilage troll who is just giving a demonstration on how to be a complete ass. Either way, you are indeed one screwed up dude/woman/hermaphrodite.
RAY is also a BOBOweenie that will lie through his teeth for his precious.
Anytime they use a keyboard, they’re lying, as well as posting odoriferous crocks of manure. They are turd-burglar trolls cutting and pasting stolen crap.
I should add that if Techdude’s flakey “invisible ink theory” was going to work (even minimally for someone like him with a fantasmagorical imagination) the forger would have HAD to have started with a highly compressed JPG and not a TIFF file, because a TIFF file would have absolutely no artifacts at all in it to be seen later.
Hey Ray – how is that 15 reasons thing going? Anything? Bueller? Bueller….
well, if you think that is so, put up or shut up. YOu have made this comment dozens of times, and never put up anything to dispute techdude.
so you should shut up until you have something. Your “concern trolling” about “being led down a path” is stupid and transparent. You don’t care one bit. you are doing the troll thing but a piss-poor job at it.
So, STFU or lay your cards on the table. What are you afraid of?
j CANNO, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. WAIT AND SEE!
JC, dont worry. It is simply like this: tell your Messiah to produce his physical BC to American voters, and if it is real and showes MR HUSSEIN is eligible for POTUS, the case will then be closed.
I think BHO is really Barry Durham.
Lets put it this way….somebody had to pay for Obama’s birth, and Stanley Ann Durham’s stay in the hospital.
And given that there is no evidence that BHO Sr. ever got a divorce before marry Durham, its most likely that Obama’s mom entered the hospital as “Durham” for insurance purposes.
One can assume that BHO Sr. indicated his marital status when he entered the University of Hawaii. Absent evidence of a legal divorce, UH could not have covered Obama’s mother under a “student” policy under any name other than Durham.
And if she entered under her parents policy (and her parents disapproved of the marriage — and may have known about BHO Sr’s previous marriage) she would most likely have entered the hospital as Stanley Ann Durham, because once you are married, most policies do not consider you eligible for insurance under your parents policies.
So, when “Stanley Ann Durham” gave birth to a son, his last name on the birth certificate would have been “Durham”. My guess is that he was raised as “Barack Obama II” and was able to get all sorts of identification under that name as a child, because identification restrictions were not as severe back then (and he may not have even known he was Durham until relatively recently.)
If that is the case, Barack Obama II does not exist as a legal person — and how can you vote for someone that does not legally exist?
Dunham.
The name is Dunham.
I wrote the Secretary of State, Washington,DC; the National GOP, McCain’s site, Kentucky’s GOP, CNN and 3 shows on CNN. Going to Fox next.
I do recall a posting in march that quoted the Kenyan constitution as not allowing dual citizenship once majority is reached. That is the individual had to make a choice or the Kenyan citizenship would be automatically revoked. It is likely that up until 21 years of age, Obama had dual citizenship with Kenya.
I do not know about his current Indonesian citizenship. This is the most likely scenario for dual citizenship to still exist, though, IMHO.
Doesn’t matter if he still is or not. If he ever was a dual citizen, his loyalties are divided.
I got the runaround. I actually had to READ Art. II to the person I spoke to at the SOS office. Then was directed to the DNC who told me “he’s eligible because he’s a US citizen”. I tried to explain but they didn’t “get it” and kept acting like they just wanted to get me off the phone. The GOP didn’t seem interested either, probably because they want to face Obama, not Hillary.
No luck on this end
How many aliases does Obama have?
How many aliases does Obama have?
I’d recommend the Texasdarlin blog for the answer. They’re the ones who are making them all up.
They also do the following for Obama:
* Nationalities
* Religions
* Race content
* Citizen combo’s (of your choice)
* Birth places
N.B.[Gilligans Island no longer used]
Ray, what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you be over there right now tracking down those fifteen examples you said you have to support your allegation that Texas Darlin is a racist?
Do you get paid by the post or are you on the clock?
As long as we’re all recommending here, my recommendation is that you ask yourself if anyone on this blog really gives a tinker’s cuss about your bilge-filled posts. Mostly we are just having fun at your expense. You are one really stupid talking mule who needs to go back to your bot-watcher and ask for an easier assignment, like, say, HuffnPuffPo.
Aren’t you guys getting a TINY bit suspicious now that Atlas Shrugs and Texasdarlin have dumped the chief “allegator” Techdude and him being exposed as an imposter of a REAL expert?
Ray – you promised 15 reasons, and I’ve seen … uhhh, well, ummm, none.
I saw this commenter on Savage Politics. They have a unique set of questions which can be helpful to prove this asshole is not an American citizen
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Captain Roulstone,
I hope that you will catch this post – I thank you for your kind reply to me above.
I feel this is a gigantic story that the media will not cover, that Bill Clinton recently ‘alluded’ to, and that Hillary supposedly talked about to Super Delegates on the phone as early as April or May –
Barrack Obama’s Birth Certificate IS A FORGERY. Apparently they have found his sister’s name on the document after analyzing it thoroughly.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/05/breaking-sister-mayas-name-uncovered-on-phony-obama-birth-certificate/
Now – I see a series of unnecessary movements by his campaign (Obama’s) over the last 4 months or so. Now that we are blessed to have you here and thus a stronger link to the good Senator, I would respectfully request that you read the story and consider whether this would be something that the Senator’s campaign would like to validate.
Obama’s campaign, as I am certain you know, has done some very peculiar things in regards to his past. The msm is complicit as well by not following leads and killing stories that might air.
Obama’s campaign Foreign Policy advisor was the CEO of a company who’s employees broke into Barack’s passport records – or those of his mother. Of course if you toss in the Senators from NY and AZ – it looks like an act of someone interested in ALL the candidates, rather than someone trying to, perhaps, ‘fix a problem’ for one candidate in particular.
Add this to the unnecessary legislation that was put forward ‘clearing’ Senator McCain to run for office – when no such ‘clearance’ was needed. Sounds to me like a preempitve strike so that they can demand equal treatment should someone ELSE require ‘exceptions’ to the rules. Of course, again, Senator McCain required no such ‘permissions’ and to me, with Claire McCaskill heading the push – there is al ulterior motive here – and it is not judiciousness or magnanimous behavior. I believe that if Obama’s records prove he was not born in the U.S. – they will use this ‘permission’ given to McCain as a RACE ISSUE – infuriating the AA community into outrage that McCain was given a pass for not being born in the U.S. directly – so why not Barack. It just stinks to high heaven.
Then you have the birth certificate issue. First he wouldn’t or couldn’t come up with one. Then he started equivocating over it – then he issued on his website the certificate that now has been proven to be false. What on earth would the motivation be to substitute and manipulate your sister’s birth certificate to pass off as your own? If there is not an issue why toss up details about time spent in Kenya? Barack tells us his mother spent 72 hours immediately prior to his birth, in Kenya, and then returned to have him.
Now I have done reasearch and am a bit of an aviation buff. I went back to see just what aircraft were available and when, in order to fly someone to Kenya, in 1961, and then back again within 3 days. Not even going over the fact that today and even MORE SO in the past – a 9 months pregnant woman would almost certainly be denied the ability to fly, especially a long flight, probably originating in Seattle (as the hints and records seem to imply), over the Pacific Ocean.
The DC8 or Boeing 707 was operational for its first flights in late 1958. Few companies flew the 4 engine jet through 1959 – and only the most profitable, highly travelled routes would be using this ULTRA expensive aircraft. No routes to any African country were considered high-traffic routes, with only a London – Johannesburg route being a moderate traffic route.
The flight WITH the jet would have taken, from Seattle, approximately 24 hours to complete, with refueling and passenger changes. But what is more likely is that Obama’s mother would have taken a 4 engine propeller plane – like the Pan Am Super Constellation – overseas – requiring as much as 32 hours to complete with stopovers, refueling, and passenger changes.
There is NO WAY A.) that she was allowed to fly at her stage of pregnancy, and B.) that she flew to Kenya, stayed about 6 hours, and then hopped on the plane back to Seattle, and then gave birth.
There is a reason for all of this – and for the MSM not even to look into it is a serious, and to me deliberate, oversight.
I appreciate any response you might have and forgive me for the length of my thoughts. I just believe there is a HUGE story here – Bill Clinton doesn’t just drop Bon Mots for nothing. There is meat here, there is motivation here, and there is fraud here. What it ultimately proves to be, I am not certain, but someone in the McCain campaign needs to start digging and start digging deeply – and fast.
Thank you sir, an honor to have your ‘ear’
The author of “Man Behind The Mask”, Andy Martin,
at this site:
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/column/read.
html?col=731
This article covers, Barack Obama’s dual citizen-
ship. He became a citizen of Kenya December 12th,
1963. Interesting… . Raises questions that should
have answered long ago.
Thanks Raven!
Oh, by the way, Ray forgot to clock out…
Someone grabs his card for him, OK?
Obama has as many aliases as any habitual criminal. Who knows what he started life as, Barry/Barack/ Dunham/Obama. Then he picked up even more by age 10 as Barry/Barack/Soetoro/Sutoro?/Obama.
This needs to be researched if only to discover the real name of the guy who wants to be president #44 on the off chance he might win and take up all his alloted space in our history books just explaining why he has so many aliases.
There seems to be a name for each distinct personality, huh?
He has 8,982 names?
I think contacting former Amb. Joe Wilson and Valerie
is a great idea. They certaintly could provide the
“path” that should be followed.
We need to know, whatever happens in Denver.
OT…Hillary, being trashed by Barniccle and John Harwood
On MSNBC about the idea of a “roll call” vote.
Saying, “it might not come out the way she might hope, if one were held, since so many delegates have gone over to Obama”! The word from msnOB is the Clintons could “shut this down” but, haven’t must be holding out for something! sheesh!
Arrrgh matey, someone needs to swab the deck with that scurvy dog Barniccle.
He also called us “NITWIT” bloggers….I wonder what happened to Matthews…under a bus maybe?…lolt
I want to believe more than anything in this world that Obama is not American born, and I do believe he is NOT, but unless someone of authority investigates this there is nothing we can do. I just don’t understand why, with Bush and Cheney still in charge of the CIA and FBI and others under their power, that they have not checked this out. OR that the McCain camp has not completely checked this out. Unless this gets out into the MSM, anything you write or any letters we write will do no good. I keeping thinking that if this story, had legs it would be all over FOX news. We need someone in the position of power to get to the bottom of this and soon, before it is to late for Hillary.
National Enquirer! Trickle down reporting. If their reporting is actually substantive the rest of MSM take notice.
IN A MOMENT OF RATIONAL THINKING.
A FORMER PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE THE MEANS TO FIND ANYTHING HE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT BARAK OBAMA AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT NO ONE WOULD KNOW.
IT IS CURIOUS THAT BILL, CHELSEA, TERRY MCAULLIF (HILLARYS CAMPAIGN MANAGER) THE VILSAKS (MR VILSAK I BELEIVE WAS A CHAIR ALSO OF HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN) OF IOWA ALL WENT TO AFRICA TOGETHER JUST RECENTLY.
MAYBE NO BIG DEAL, BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
ALL I KNOW IS WHEN HILLARY DOES HER SPEAKING AND SHE SAYS OBAMA’S NAME SHE SMIRKS AND THEN CONTINUES TO SPEAK.
STAY TUNED????????
I don’t see why republicans would want to break this news though because if it turns out that Obama IS ineligible, they may end up facing Hillary and they know that they can beat Obama but will lose to Hillary.
How about Lou Dobbs?
With all the problems everyone is having to just get someone to listen and to find out who actualy makes sure if a candidate is a U.S. citizen, no wonder Obama has gotten as far as he has.
No one wants to be responsible. But, ignorance of the law is no excuse for the democratic or republican party nor government and state officials.
Years ago abstracts were used and no doubt those were easily forged.
Hawaii has a complaint into the United Nations against the United States saying the U.S. has been occupying their Kingdom illegally since 1898, filed 2002 (?). I don’t have the link but the website is the “Hawaii Reporter.”
The site owner is an Hawaiian by birth and he states that their Kingdom rules take precedence over U.S. laws. Just thought I’d mention this because when there is this kind of litigation, what exactly are the rights of the U.S. over Hawaii. Does the primary election held in Hawaii even count?
“With all the problems everyone is having to just get someone to listen and to find out who actualy makes sure if a candidate is a U.S. citizen, no wonder Obama has gotten as far as he has.”
It doesn’t become an issue unless Obama is nominated. Currently he could still be replaced by Hillary when the Super delegates vote.
Ray – you got those 15 reasons yet?
Folks, there is a simple problem with all this.
1. Anyone claiming to perform “document analysis” of a scanned image is not credible.
2. If you were a credible professional in document analysis and had concrete, verifiable evidence of document fraud, would you be posting it on message boards or presenting to a court/ the media? Why would any expert with credible evidence hide behind an internet alias?
3. Formulating theories of why or how something happened when is not credible when there is no solid evidence on which to form the theory. It’s akin to building a house without a foundation.
Granted, the Obama campaign’s initial reluctance to provide documentation and the subsequent inconsistencies with the documents later provided does raise valid questions. But that is all anyone has- questions.
The more people trying to formulate conspiracy theories based on questions and no solid evidence, the less credibility this issue will have. There is no evidence to support name changes, conspiratorial flights or any of these other theories.
There are only 2 questions: 1. What was the problem with initially producing these documents? 2. Why are the submitted documents inconsistent with others?
The more anyone deviates from these two points, the further you will get from any answers.
And YOU are?
A person with common sense that would like to see this issue resolved and not relegated to an urban legend, UFO story or X-File.
Not good enough, sweetcakes. Post your credentials or fucking blow.
Credentials for what? Stating an opinion? I made no claims for being an expert of anything, unlike the people who you seem to blindly support.
I merely made an observation and offered my opinions on how to maintain credibility with this issue rather than have it turn into another easily dismissed conspiracy theory.
I fail to see any purpose to your ridiculous attacks or demands, nor your flaming.
Not good enough, sweetcakes. Post your credentials or fucking blow.
You sound like you’re getting a bit rattled Strawberry. You’re like a rabbit caught in the spotlight – not knowing which way to turn when a few people start shining a bit of light on the subject
Damiano wrote:
Folks, there is a simple problem with all this.
1. Anyone claiming to perform “document analysis” of a scanned image is not credible.
I know what you’re driving at, but no one has claimed they did a document analysis. Everyone involved has made it abundantly clear that they have been examining digital images.
2. If you were a credible professional in document analysis and had concrete, verifiable evidence of document fraud, would you be posting it on message boards or presenting to a court/ the media?
Some would, if they wanted to be sure that the information was circulated immediately and not “lost” or bogged down in red tape. The internet is packed with information like that.
Why would any expert with credible evidence hide behind an internet alias?
Self protection.
3. Formulating theories of why or how something happened when is not credible when there is no solid evidence on which to form the theory. It’s akin to building a house without a foundation.
It makes sense if the object is only to smear a person. Look what happened with Al Gore and the lies that were told about him saying he invented the internet. I only found out last year that it was a fabrication, but I and many others believed that there was something a bit strange about Al Gore.
Look what happened to the Republican leader and that stuff about him being well treated and a traitor in Vietnam while in captivity. Stories don’t have to be true to be damaging.
Fortunately in some countries people are being convicted for that sort of thing, although it hasn’t quite reached the U.S. yet.
Granted, the Obama campaign’s initial reluctance to provide documentation and the subsequent inconsistencies with the documents later provided does raise valid questions. But that is all anyone has- questions.
It wasn’t relevant until Obama became the presumptive nominee, but once that happened, he released the information within about 48 hours. To have done so earlier might have been construed as him having tickets on himself as the next president.
The more people trying to formulate conspiracy theories based on questions and no solid evidence, the less credibility this issue will have. There is no evidence to support name changes, conspiratorial flights or any of these other theories.
Of course there’s no evidence, and there never will be, but like I said – the name of the game is SMEARING. When the CULT of the COLB get the bullet proof info they are seeking they’ll simply move onto something else – shouting Arab, Muslim, Illegitimate, Indonesian, Koran, Consorted with criminals, Consorted with terrorists, blah, blah, blah.
There are only 2 questions: 1. What was the problem with initially producing these documents? 2. Why are the submitted documents inconsistent with others?
There WAS no problem initially. He produced info that satisfied all but a small number of dedicated smearers.
The IS no “inconsistency” between Obama’s 2007 certificate (2nd version) and the other 2007 certificates (2nd version). The marriage certificate has AN IDENTICAL border and we have 6 witnesses who say that Obama’s certificate is either IDENTICAL TO or “looks like” other 2007 (2nd version) COLBS. It has also been verified as a genuine COLB by Hawaii Health.
Damiano-from the perspective of 2009 it seems likely that an unmarried mother ’s baby would have her surname on the bc.
Things were grim for an illegitimate child – society did not encourage the use of a biological father’s name to illegitimate kids
I don’t think the Republicans would do anything with this. They want to go up against Barack, not Hillary. The Republicans are going to bring out the big guns after the convention and Barack is chosen, but right now, they’re going easy on him because they wouldn’t want a Hillary upset in Denver. Finding a journalist that’s interested in doing his/her job and vetting Barack Obama might be the way, but one will be hard to find.
The best way to run against Obama is merely to just show his own words in his own voice.
Since he’s running a meta-campaign, you basically have to show what a clown he is and make him a laughingstock.
He’s so brittle… so making him look dumb really really really annoys him
Larry, remember the different passports they have on the hill. Whomever investigates this must print out the record of access to his files and changes made.
We know the CEO of the security firm contracted was in O’s pocket.
I smell State Dept. as well. We both know who.
We need the official name changes on him as well.
Documented.
P.S. At this point, I guess he’ll lock gran away just in case someone can get to her.