McCain on Crisis in Georgia [Updates]
By SusanUnPC on August 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM in Foreign Policy, National Security
(I haven’t gotten anything from Obama’s camp. Am searching for a statement. Of course, he’ll have to have someone write the entire thing for him. God, I hope there’s a press conference today, and the press ask him about this crisis. UPDATE at 9:23 a.m. PT — Six minutes ago the A.P. posted “McCain, Obama urge halt to fighting in Georgia.” 2nd UPDATE: Memeorandum.com has an excellent list of the best stories. I find it astonishing that I cannot find more coverage of this story on ANY of the three “news” networks. They’re blathering mostly about the latest “crime” stories. They insult our intelligence. UPDATE 3: BBC World Service radio is on the story. UPDATE 4: Added a map from the NYTimes story, which also has a riveting photo. It’ll help Barky. UPDATE 5: I have added Obama’s statement at the end. I INVITE YOU to COMPARE and CONTRAST the two statements.)
For Immediate Release
Contact: Press Office
Friday, August 8, 2008
703-650-5550
ARLINGTON, VA — U.S. Senator John McCain issued the following statement regarding the current conflict between Georgia and Russia:
“Today, news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences for Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave.
“The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia’s security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia.”
Here is Barack Obama’s statement, such as it is, via The Page:
Below is a Statement from Senator Obama on the Grave Situation in Georgia
“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.”
(Release: November 13)
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Let see what kind of ignorant statement will come out of Obama’s camp. At the moment they’re still trying to find Georgia on the map.
It’ll probably have something to do with Bob Barr
My thoughts EXACTLY … not the Atlanta he used to know?
Haha. I was going to say he’s probably wondering why Russia’s going to war with the southern state he won by about 30 points in the primaries.
They’ll probably just change the wording and copy McCain’s ideas. I’m sure they haven’t a clue what to do about this situation. Original analysis and in-depth working knowledge on issues are not Obama’s forte, especially with regards to foreign policy – he must totally rely on his 300 consultants. BTW, isn’t he on his way to Hawaii to look up that bc?
P.S. I wonder if he’s having a powwow with grandma, to make sure she toes the “correct” birth storyline.
He’s probably going to wait for Hillary or another Democrat to say something and copy THAT!
Wait, didn’t his world tour heal the world????
How could this happen?
you used the words i wanted to use lol i agree with you 110%…
Looks like that is exactly what he did. He “cribbed” as usual.
Obama wonders if Atlanta is Okay ?
Its the 55th State remember?
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
they know where “georgia” is…it’s in the gaza strip. rafah, GA is where the $33,000 contribution from Hamas came from, and Obama’s camp says they returned it…
ha, ha, ha–you are so right!
They’re confused because with all those contributions flowing in from the two brothers in GA, they’ve been working on their ‘narrative’ for how Georgia and Gaza are really the same place. And now, this? It has blown their robotic transistors and they’re all shuffling in circles mumbling “does not compute…”
WTF….IS OBAMA TALKIN ABOUT ?……GEORGIA IS BEING INVADED…NO ?
Frankly Hillary…. I don`t give a damn.
Why does this seem like Poland…1939 ?
he is asking which of the 57 states is Georgia? So he can proceed with a response!
It’s not Obama who has problems using a map.
That is ignorant, all right. Ignorant boilerplate that you could plug in any name of any country. With 300 foreign policy advisors, that is the best he could do in a crisis.
That’s another Mc Cain commercial. Is BHO ready to lead? When the crisis in Georgia and Russia hit the news, see how they responded….(run text).
VO: BHO, not ready to lead
John Mc Cain, a seasoned, experienced leader who understands the geopolitical situation because he has real experience.
I had to giggle at this one… Bet they did run to the map and are still looking!
Obama won’t say anything until HRC does; then he’ll agree.
My God, Obama is a weanie. Compare McCain’s and Obama’s statements, Obama is so milk toast about everything. He is so not presidential.
Of course he has no clue what the crisis is about; I doubt he ever heard in his life about “South Ossetia” and must be learning how to pronounce it….Oh boy…
Obama = Bush III
It doesn’t matter as long as he can preserve his image as Mr. Citoyen du Monde.
So, president Obama will not take a stand against the real evil here. Russia has been meddling in Georgia’s affairs and threatening it since the country was established. McCain knows the history of the conflict, Obama is ignorant, week and will mean a disaster for the US. Lets vote for Ozero cause he’s got logos.
putin doesn’t put up with sxxx. he’d have bambi for breakfast if he tried smarting off.
That’s about as generic as it gets. Obama should have a tape made of this statement, and simply replay it every time something happens in the world.
It’s also very general and light on specific strategies. Sound familiar? “Hope,” “Change,” “Peace.”
Before Senator Obama releases a statement, someone in his campaign will have to do the following:
Explain Georgia to Obama
This Georgia has white people…lots and lots of white people.
This particular Georgia isn’t the place where Ludacris and the rest of the “Dirty South” rappers live.
This particular Georgia hasn’t a clue who the hell the Atlanta Falcons or Atlanta Braves are or that they’re sporting teams.
This particular Georgia has citizens that cannot legally vote in US elections.
…and that they also don’t speak Arabic…. or Georgian.
Maybe this Georgia is hiding his birth certificate.
that is a crack-up! Hiding his birth certificate!
Obama is still in a southside Chicago frame of mind that “white people” are aliens.
I can’t figure out why he’s decided he’s the chosen one to lead people he is out of touch with.
He doesn’t want to “lead” us he wants to opress us. He want’s revenge for all the “evil ” we did to his people.
The fact that you actually think John McCain knows more about international relations and foreign policy than Barack Obama tells truly educated observers all we need to know. McCain’s release, like everything else the man has ever signed his name to, including his “books,” was written by someone else. Obama’s release, though doubtless contributed to by his foreign policy team (as would be the case with 100% of national politicians in recent decades), might actually have been written and thought about by him. When McCain speaks extemporaneously about foreign policy he makes elementary factual errors so shocking that I shudder to think the man is allowed anywhere near Capitol Hill, let alone the White House. But then again, the same could be said of Bush, Reagan and many other Republicans (not Bush Senior or Nixon, who both knew their shit).
Bonus points to RepublicanChick for the racial mockery! Just remember: PUMAs aren’t racist! LOL.
Wait until they start telling the jokes tonight on Leno and Letterman. See who they make fun of. That’s the real message. Asshole. And I mean that in the nicest possible way!!! Bless your heart.
Yes, yes, Beebop, we all know that you hate Obama SO MUCH that you are willing to use curse words to describe his supporters. You position in the group is secure. You’re a real PUMA. You can relax.
sticks and stones will break your bones. But names really pulverize those fragile little BOBOweenie bones don’t they? I mean were talking down to dust baby(LOL)
You flatter me. I don’t hate 0bama there, sweetie. He’s just not qualified to lead a country. Not Monaco much less America. There. I hope that clarifies it for you. Bless your heart.
We’ll see whether he was qualified after he is elected and assumes office. You Republican numbskulls said exactly the same thing about Bill Clinton, and he turned out to be plenty capable; so, I am quite sure, will Obama.
Doesn’t explain why you called me an asshole, though; I’m still fairly sure that was a statement made by you to the rest of the herd. Insecure people tend to have to act out in just that bragging, brash way. Same with the “sweetie” directed at, as it turns out, a man, and the un-meant but repeated “Bless your heart.” You’re trying too hard to fit in, Beebop, and that never works; it only makes you look kind of odd, which, ironically, is exactly the opposite effect you’re trying for.
Waiting until after, to see if BOBO is qualified? You just told us BOBO isn’t qualified… LOL Nice Job.
Oh for crying out loud, Bill was a Rhodes Scholar and International Relations was his major and when he was questioned on foreign matters he didn’t sound like a fussy school marm on Hormone Replacement Therapy. PS Please your heart is actually a slam.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
After the election, they’ll have to spray Ofraud with an extinguisher to put out the flames!
that is about the stupidest statement outside of obama and jackson jr i have seen in awhile. just elect bambi and see how it works out. you are pathethic.
My point was that “qualifications” are a double-edged, unpredictable sword. some of the most “qualified” candidates end up being disastrous legislators or presidents, and others with little prior experience wind up doing well. It all has to do with personal qualities which generally are unverifiable in advance. Good to see you all haven’t lost your adorable quality of jumping on trivia and massing around it like lemmings. Meanwhile, on the sections of this site where I challenge you to actually discuss real issues — silence. Crickets. No surprise. You are all so over your heads when it comes to actual facts.
What issues are you talking about? The energy issue? What’s the reality of having 150mpg hybrid(1 million for hat matter) in the next few years? The fact that he support bio-fuel(corn ethanol) that’s not much better that regular gas, but take away world food supply sound like a good policy to you? raising Taxes on the senior citizen who generally rely on those fix income sound like a good policy to you? Since you live in San Francisco as I do, do you honestly believed that $250k/year for a family is rich? The fact that so call tax credit for middle class don’t mean much with mounting national debt, which drive up credit cost(a big problem for most American), devalue dollar father(inflation problem) is not as good as balance the budget(which he have not plan on doing until the Mccain camp brought it up).
Also, what’s the size of your engine since you are so concerned about the environment? Most rich liberal that I knew aren’t driving Prius or Insight.
Give me your opinion on the issue above please, I am dying to know your logic behind supporting Obama base on issue.
My wife and I drive a pair of beat-up old VWs, one Cabrio and one Jetta, both of which get great gas mileage. We’re holding out for the next-gen Priuses that you mention. I think Obama’s stance on biofuels is silly, as you mention, and I think his stance on balancing the budget is weak, but that McCain’s is disastrous. I disagree that 250k households are middle-class; even in SF, if you’re making 250k a year, you are not going to be cast into criss if your marginal rate goes up by a few points; in fact, if the markets decide the next administration (Obama) is serious about budget reform, they’ll respond by pumping up stocks, and 250k households will be better off. This is precisely what happened when Clinton ran for office and cut a budget-balancing deal with Congress; Republicans screamed he was going to raise everyone’s taxes; he did raise some taxes, cut other taxes, held the line on spending, kicked off a stock market boom, and the rest is history.
Republicans, by contrast, have always been a joke on this issue. Always, going back to Reagan, who posed as a libertarian but never did a damn thing about slowing the growth of government spending. McCain’s economic proposals are deeply irresponsible madness. Period.
As for whether Obama’s offered tax cut for middle-class families is relevant or not, if I remember correctly it amounts to something over a thousand bucks per family per year. To a family that takes home, say, 25k a year after taxes, saving 1k is 4% more spending money for the year. I don’t see that as trivial. At any rate, a thousand bucks is more than you could expect to save in a decade’s worth of 10 cents lower gas prices that offshore drilling promises.
Thanks for a grownup note, though; it’s a rare pleasure on NQ.
I agree that majority Rep are a joke when comes to fiscal policy. Mccain however understand that and came out for balancing the budget in 4 years. Would that become a reality? i am not sure. But at lease he put an emphasis on it early on, therefor I trust him on that(especially base on his record against pork on bills). Obama’s spending and tax plan sound like a sure way to stay in red.
As I said above, 1k tax credit will not do much when interest shot up because of the debt issue. Devalued dollar(some 40% so far), and higher interest will cost average family far more than 1k a year.
I read a lot about cars and popular science as well as mechanic, and I didn’t see anything in regarding a 150mpg hybrid(not within 5 years anyway). Can you give me a link to show me that possibility? If not, that sound more like smoke screen to me.
Also, Mccain support Nuclear power(the newer generation is much better and safer now) as well as wind power and solar power, the best combination to help the environment. Cheap electric power will make fuel cell car and electric car wide spread a possibility(really helping the environment). Also, Fusion power will be available in another 30 year(much safer and efficient with shorter radioactive time). That’s much better than the Obama’s 50 years plan(or dream?).
As to the 250k issue, let me assure you that’s really not a lot in SF. With average home price in the 800k range, a decent home in a nice location will have a monthly price tag of well over 5k a month(P&I+tax,insurance), plus a another 1-2k for health care cost and gas, utilities(cable bill is over 150 a month), 1.5k for child care( at 700-800 per kid), food cost at another 500 minimum. That’s 8k a month. Your luck to net 120k a year on 250k income. 120-8×12=28k a year for everything else(entertainment, dine out, clothes, vacation etc). How can you call that “Rich”? I can see that apply to someone making 500k or up, but 250k with a net income of 120k rich?
I am glad that we can talk issue instead of the poll number. There are many things that I found unacceptable in this primary. Painting the Clintons Racist is one of them(most of us Chinese find that very offensive). The lack of any principle(balls as some of my friends call it) in the name of winning. False advertising(new politician who turn out to be more of politic as usual, which I knew from the start but not many others). Inexperience that will make him indecisive facing important issue(it will be his to make no matter how many advisor he have) tells me that this is not his time. Had he become the VP and put in 8 years, that will not be an issue. As it stands, Mccain is a better president since Obama push the most qualified candidate out of the race. Rep gave me someone that I can actually vote for for a change(I am independent by the way).
ok, I can understand how you might feel the need to defend the BOBO since he is off wasting time playing around in Hawaii while McCain is taking the job seriously.
McCain is taking what job seriously? Running for president? With his recent passel of embarrassingly immature ads and flat-out lies about his opponent? Whatever, Republican. Your opinion is no more relevant to a true progressive than the opinions of the 23% of Americans who still think Bush is doing a good job as president.
LOL Obviously they were effective.
No, if the ads were effective McCain wouldn’t still be behind in the polls. He had pulled into a tie by the time most of those ads were running and being promoted; now he has slipped behind again. This stuff is complicated and cause-and-effect is never simple and straightforward, but the last week tells me that McCain has damaged his brand, perhaps fatally, with his latest Schmidt-inspired negative attacks. McCain is supposed to be better than that. Obviously he isn’t, but in the public mind he was, until maybe the last couple weeks. This is a presidential race during times of brutal war and economic fear. I don’t think McCain helps his cause with patently absurd claims about Obama and ads featuring Hollywood starlets. Once again, you PUMAs reveal the inherent silliness of your discourse by simultaneously applauding those embarrassing ads and calling McCain more “presidential” than Obama.
Aren’t you supposed to be smart? Your boy can barely squeak a margin of error lead, and the fight hasn’t even started.
she’s new to this election thing. Cut her a little slack. When she grows up some day, then she’ll understand.
I’m a he, and I’m not new, and if you really think McCain is winning this race, trust me, it is you who does not understand.
As for the “fight hasn’t even started,” WildChild, that cuts both ways. Everybody in the country knows McCain. Most people don’t know much about Obama yet and haven’t really started focusing yet. A lot of political types I know (not all, but a lot) think that once he has his convention and the media really starts to focus and they hold a couple debates, the race will become a blowout as the average middle American gets to know Obama and concludes that he’s a smart, hard-working mainstream Democrat. McCain’s only hope, really, is to get the country to believe that Obama is a crazed, ultra-liberal, America-hating elitist (you know, like all you PUMAs think) before they get a chance to “meet him” for themselves. That’s why, now that he has a competent campaign manager in Steve Schmidt, he is barraging Obama with daily negative ads, no matter how much damage they do to McCain’s own reputation. If I were running his campaign, that is what I’d tell him to do as well; he has no other realistic likelihood of winning this election.
If Obama is doing so well then why are you here?
What a bunch of malarkey! McCain has defined his opponent, turned the “Change” message on its head and portrayed himself as being more sympathetic to the kitchen table concerns of American voters. Now he is hitting Obama as a “tax and spend liberal” with new ads keeping the celebrity theme front and center. The ads are working.
Peggy Noonan for the WSJ had a great column on it today.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121813852996621575.html?mod=todays_columnists
For the first time the idea began to take hold that John McCain can win this thing. You saw the USA Today-Gallup poll this week, with Mr. McCain gaining six points since late June among those Gallup dubbed likely voters. Mr. McCain took the lead, 49% to 45%. Among registered voters, it’s still Barack Obama, 47% to 44%. A poll came out saying people are tired of hearing about Mr. Obama. Mr. McCain took the lead in YouTube hits. Small stuff, and there will be a lot of twists and turns before this is over, but there’s movement down there beneath the crust of the Earth.
Hey, what the S F!
Are you telling me those ad’s had misleading information on them– Say it ain’t so.
Bloody heck! Obama would NEVER do such a thing.
I knew those ads about health care and NAFTA he ran against Hillary were carved in the TRUTH stone.
Stop the hate!
I cannot be racist according to Rev. Wright as I’m brown. I’m special baby!
Barack Obama plays Senator for the equivalent of what—150 days at the most?
Darlin–you don’t play Senator and then expect to be the President of the United States. This isn’t a learning on the job type position.
PUMAs aren’t racist, sexist, homophobes, or hypocrites. They’re pissed and I imagine Obama and the rest of you Obots ain’t seen nothing yet!
Poof little pest!
143 days i think.
and as state senator in illinois, around 30 or so days a year since the legislature here is in session only 55 days of the year and he showed up a little more than half the time in order to vote present.
I agree with you, actually — you don’t just “expect to become” President of the United States; you work your ass off for two years, go from being virtually unknown to one of the most famous people in the world by force of sheer charisma and intellect; you build a bigger and more effective grassroots volunteer organization than any other candidate in history; raise more money than any other candidate in history; go from being an afterthought in the polls to defeating the original frontrunner, political superstar and wife of a former president; convince the majority of super-delegates to trust you; and pull ahead of the Republican war hero who has been famous for decades.
And you do all that having started from basically zero. With a Muslim-sounding name and brown skin, in a country significant portions of which are still openly, proudly racist and will never support you no matter what.
That’s how you become president: you earn it with an astounding amount of good, hard work. Watch, PUMAs, while Barack Obama shows you exactly how it’s done.
BOBO isn’t very effeicent is he? By your own admission others beame presdient with much less. LOL we’re going to be laughing about it for years when BOBO loses.
Democrats don’t have the same large volunteer pool the GOP does with its Federated GOP Women, College and Young Republicans, and local party committees. In the primaries, Mr. Obama instead moved hordes of volunteers from state to state. It was a brilliant tactic, but Nov. 4 is different. The volunteers adequate for primaries held over five months will simply not be enough to compete in 51 separate elections (all 50 states plus the District of Columbia) all on one day.
In the GE, voters are less likely to be influenced by paid volunteers (strangers) than by people in their communities.
NO actually that’s how rockstars, soapstars and people with “15″ minutes of fame do it.
He is running for POTUS, not of the Senior Class in High School.
He is someone who is ‘OF” the party, but in the party.
Wow! So these are his great accomplishments! Running a successful campaign! Becoming famous worldwide in a short amount of time! I guess Maccain was right after all about the celebrity thing. I guess the Obama strategy to deal with the issue of Russia vs. Georgia will be to give a big speech in Red Square, preferably with some phalic symbol in the background, offering free vodka to thousands of adoring Russians, and using “hope” and “change” every other sentence. That is sure going to make Putin see the light. Maybe Obama can see into Putin’s heart, like GWB did. What a joke this guy is. Can’t decide which is more pathetic, him or his supporters. If it wasn’t our future hanging in the balance we could be laughing about this whole thing. Unfortunately, this joke is going to be on us. I can imagine Putin right now watching footage of Obama’s world tour and roaring with laughter: What are these crazy Americans thinking?!
What does it mean? How did you become truly?
“truly educated” is a trigger for “Camp Obama”
Now I get why you come here, you go back and forth between different topics on NQ, pretending on one to be a bot and on another to be a bot basher. Cute.
Wrong. I have one name on this site and you’re looking at it. I have no interest in playing sock puppet games. Haven’t you figured out yet that I’m enamored of my own voice? lol
Well at least someone is.
BWAHHH!!!
total burn there SB. good one.
Where is Ziggy Brzezinski?? Isn’t he still the resident expert for Obama? You remember Ziggy, he was National Security Advisor for Jimmy Carter. Obama is just Jimmy Carter Lite with the same team of Internationalists, this time led by George Soros, the DEM Daddywarbucks.
uh, sf,
57 states sit well with you?
-MS
Apparently, John McCain and President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili are personal friends. He said, “The guy brought me a bulletproof vest in 2003, specially came in with a bulletproof vest to give it to me.” They visited the Senaki military base in 2006. McCain chaired a dinner meeting for him in DC at the Nixon Center in 2003. It’s just stupid to say someone who has been on the Senate Armed Services Committee for two decades has no grasp of foreign policy and international relations. Do you think he has a stunt double show up for work?
McCain is also a student of history….Hitler used the excuse/LIE of Ethnic Germans in Poland to invade in 1939….Putin is doing the SAME thing….
Is L Bresnick (pardon the spelling)
on his campaign staff?
He has been looking for a way to go to war with Russia for years.
God knows what ideas he will implant in backtrack baracks head.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS, BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
You mean Ziggy Brzezinski???
McCain has his son Mark, but yeah, Brzezinski is a Russian revanchist nutjob. Obama would be totally unable to outmaneuver him. Another Carter fiasco.
brzezinski is the genius who gave us osama on steroids. i have no use for him.
AND………..-> This ain;’t the corporate home of CNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup.
“he’ll have to have someone write the entire thing for him”
The real challenge is carving him off with grace.
I think even hardcore Obama news people realize he isn’t there.
What’s the solution to pulling the candidate nobody wants, and preventing him from doing max damage?
The candidate nobody wants? The only trouble with that formulation is that according to virtually every recent poll, more U.S. voters want Obama than want any other candidate.
or in other words. more of the thousand or so voters who answered their phones
LOL, precisely.
I’m sure low-info voters actually believe this. High-info people like me understand that the entire economic and industrial infrastructure of the modern world is based on the same applied mathematics and statistical modeling that underlies modern polling. There is a margin of error, yes, but when twenty polls over a two-week period all say Candidate X is winning by between 2 and 5 points, Candidate X is winning by between 2 and 5 points. Period. Just like if you walk into traffic and there’s a truck coming and you stand there and don’t move, you’re going to be hit by truck. Clicking your heels and tossing fairy dust won’t make the truck go away.
What you PUMAs are doing by denying or ignoring all the current polls is the political equivalent of clicking your heels and sprinkling fairy dust. Which is fine — it’s a free country, this blog makes you all feel good, so god bless. You are, however, objectively, verifiably wrong. Anything could possibly happen between now and November. But Obama is winning now and is statistically far more likely to be our next president than anyone else, including McCain.
yeah, since you had to tell us how smart you are, LOL is just telling us how really stupid you are.
Okay, WildChild. You just go on believing that polls lie. A majority of Americans also believe in angels, so…
I never said polls lie. I said they were made up of the thousand or so voters who answered their phone. They are. LOL for some reason that got you a bent out of shape and you felt the need to tell us how smart you are.
People believe in Messiahs, too. Just not in Barack Obama or the how the Democratic Party is going to “save the world.”
I must admit that last bit is a pickup from another Obamatron, who seriously needs to stop reading super-hero comic books or watching TV shows like “Heroes.”
Fantasy vs. reality. Magical thinking should be discarded in childhood. BO is not a Messiah. He is not the One. Not even the Second or Third.
He’s an unqualified politician, period.
See you in November!
You mean high on bullshit?
no just plain high
can’t figure out if it’s amys or just garden variety model airplane glue
Why do you come here? What is it you want?
A) I just like arguing with PUMAs. You’re passionate people who care about politics and I respect that and enjoy the debate, despite thinking that you are all deeply wrong about Obama and this election.
B) I assume a much larger number of lurkers read these threads, and that many of them might be willing to listen to pro-Obama arguments.
That’s pretty much it.
SF,
Your arrogance turns off the lurkers.
You argue pretty well, but twist and contort enough that it is apparent that you have not connected enough dots about Obama.
Keep thinking you know more than others, it’s really working for you
NObama actually pays people to troll the internet and argue with Hillary supporters, like if that is going to change our minds being continually called stupid and racists. I cannot WAIT until Nov. when NObama goes down in flames. But of course, all his KoolAid kids will STILL blame Hillary.
My question… why in the hell is Obama crying to get him out of this mess if she’s so bad?? If she’s really that “insignificant” shouldn’t NObama be up at least 20 points with everyone in his corner.
They’re delusional.
I actually received a call from the NObama campaign, and when I said I was a Hillary suppoerter, they HUNG UP ON ME!!! and all from an unknown number. (trust me, I was pissed enough I wanted to call that j-hole back)
Clinton/McCain 08.
nope – i’m a lurker and think you’re just as stupid as everyone else here.
say hi to bambi, crystal, josey, jenna, debbie, amber, and all the other small case girl lurkers.
Think again. I can’t think of anyone here willing to listen to pro-Obama arguments. From where I sit, there simply aren’t any.
Fly back to the Mothership. This world will not surrender or pretend that Obama is anything more than he is: inexperienced and unqualified for POTUS.
How are your headaches lately?
Are the stitches still in your head?
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
You should go read all the old stuff at the two Chicago papers about Obama, Tony Rezko, Nadhmi Auchi, another Slumlord last name Davis, William Ayers, Thomas Ayers former CEO of Commonwealth Edison, now called Exelon, Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn and then read about his “Church” that he went to for 20 years with Rev Wright. Obama problem is that he is not “one of us” because he spent his formative years living in a Muslim country, Indonesia. Those are the years he would have learned we don’t have 57 States, and how to bowl too.
You’re so bright. Your cell phone is ringing! It’s your BFF John Kerry.
I am an Illinois citizen and let me tell you if BHO’s so-called work ethic is what got him this far, I have some swampland to sell you. He is a political genius, all right, but not in a good sense. In the Machiavellian sense, where it is all about him and power.
How hard did he work for Illinois voters? Hardly at all, unless you were one of his fat cat backers. Dick Durbin, now that is a work horse for progressive ideas.
sf,
Actually, Mr. Hi-Info polls, can be COMPLETELY wrong, which is PERFECTLY modeled by statistics.
Example: Last season, the Mets were leading the Phillies by 7 games, with (something like) 12 to play. That would make the odds for the Mets winning the division, well, enormous (no, I’m no statistician). But somehow, the Phillies won the division by 1 game: go figure! Certainly WAY less chance for the Phillies than McCain, even if he’s behind in the polls by 5 points THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION!
Thank you for your enlightened example.
-MS
why don’t you just make your hands into a big zero and convert us all?
i love the ‘low-info’ stuff. it must be one of the phrases pushed at the bo camps.
i can actually read words and comprehend their meaning. the statements put out by both camps show precisely why i would never vote for bo…mccain’s is specific, direct, and unambiguous. bo’s is soft, not detailed, in the style of the ‘hopey-changey’ message.
grow up. get some life experience.
yeah, because they’re not at work and they like to answer polls. most people of a certain age keep private things private.
This is at least a theory based in the real world. It is, however, incorrect. Older, more conservative people are, statistically, more likely to respond to phone surveys. Another huge problem with political polling today is that it only reaches land lines, no cell phones, so most analysts strongly suspect that current polls undercount young voters (I, for instance, despite being middle-aged, no longer have a land line; my wife and I just have cell phones). So if anything, surveys this year probably favor McCain more than they should.
And young, fickle, overconfident people tend to not show up to vote. They’ve thought the polls through.
They said the same thing during the 2004 election about cell phones. There was supposed to be this huge turnout of younger voters for Kerry that didn’t show up in phone polls…it never happened. NPR had a whole series about it.
Bingo, I’ve been contacted about polls three times this week, I just screen through them.
Are you bored? I was just wondering why you come here.
More meaning 47%. Obama and his supporters love to exaggerate numbers.
a generic dem can break 50% with no sweat and your genius can’t. the democratic congress has lower poll numbers than bush. yeah right! follow the lemmings! great idea!
I think his plane might vanish, like Steven Fawcett. (not sure if I have his name right, the billionaire friend of Richard Branson).
That would be a cool dem trick. Pay the fraud lots of moola and make him go away. I may be able to donate to that fund, provided Hillary takes over after the…sad…sniff…unexplained disappearance.
Come on, you haters, knock if off. The crisis in Georgia is important to Obama, because he’s the candidate who cares about the citizens of all 57 states.
and there is military involvement. Here’s the chance to shoot a few more hoops.
hahahahahahaha …. holding out for three pointers myself. Shock and awe you can truly believe in!
ROTFLMAO! WildChild you’re on a roll today.
BOBO worked hard to become his own caricature. We can’t let that go to waste now can we?
O-Hole! aha that’s what it really means-a 3 pointer!
John,
Best comment of the day, fer’ sure! ROFLMAO!
-MS
Obama: “But, but, Georga’s in the United States!!”
HILLERY!!!!!!!HELP
Nice John, Nice… Real leaders respond quickly. Obama is drinking a Mai Tai waiting for his puppet masters to tell him how to respond.
Looks like “behind-the-scenes Putin” is trying to get all the independents back to the mother ship after a years apart. Especially if they are rich in natural resources. What a shame. Obama probably doesn’t know the history here. Good luck if he has to stand up to the Ruskies anytime soon.
Isn’t this Zbig’s especiality? Isn’t this where Mr. Cold War should be shining … as opposed to The Shining?
Last time I saw Ziggy on Morning Joe he was looking pretty thin. Last year Ziggy Brzezinski led a delegation from the RAND Corp to Syria to talk to the Dictator Assad.
Isn’t this about the pipeline to Europe….and Putin wanting to restore the former Greatness of Soviet Bla Bla Bla…..This is serious and Putin has takin advantage of US being occupied with Iraq/Afganistan….
Again, Obama’s opponent makes a statement with forethought and knowledge, which Obama then copies. The saddest part of all is that Obama gets the free pass in the media while his statement is considered equal to McCain’s.
maybe Obama should go back to his magical mystery tour, and woe all of them with great speeches. Then there would be peace on earth…
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Isn’t it bad enough we have to put up with him? Why curse the rest of the world?
Chick,
I say screw the rest of the world, make them listen to the asshat too! He’s got 20,000, yes 20,000 Germans who need to be kept abreast of their fuhrer, and just think of all his supporters in Gaza and Kenya who’d miss out on his ‘uh … eloquence.’
Besides, we can’t truly see the world unless its been adequately studied by the Great Wun. We need his wisdom.
I mean, Barry’s been wiping his own ass for at least ten years now, hardly ever forgets anymore.
Besides, that’s what Keith Olbermann’s nose is for.
Break out the marshmellows, ww3 is a comin’ Weeee…
obama is a weak spineless candidate and would make a weak prez !worse than carter who gave us the ayatollah and hezbollah!!
Obama forgot HRC isn’t still running and was waiting for her response so that he could say “Just as Hillary said…”
She’s supposed to be campaigning for him now. He and Michelle are packing for Hawaii.
You mean one of Obama’s speeches where women faint won’t fix this problem?
After Obama echoes exactly what his opponent says of course. He being clueless and all.
Let the vague rhetoric begin!
Ok I tried posting but its not showing up yet so here it is again.
“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict,” Obama said in a statement. “Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full-scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected.”
I think we can all feel safe with Obama condemning, STRONGLY CONDEMNING, everyone.
The outbreak of violence? armed conflict? Rather, how about Russia’s invasion of Georgia>
It took him 3 full lines before he even mentions Georgia’s territorial integrity…
But has he DENOUNCED Russia yet? Has he completely DISOWNED Russia?
He really should.. they’re being like, totally, divisive.
LMAO! Ah, the youth vote…
Who gives a shit what this poser from war torn Chicago has to say?!
Oblowme couldn’t bring the Crips and Bloods together.
This is just political farce on a global scale.
Hello Mr. Corrupt. Report to your prison cell!
Is anyone else out there watching CSPAN right now they have a committee on now out of Chicago talking about blogging and how it changes the news. I know this has nothing to do with the topic but maybe it has a lot to do with it.
This is great. While McCain is on duty to address a potential international crisis, Obama is on vacation. The timing couldn’t be better for the GOP.
This is nothing to joke about. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that the candidate who is supposedly ahead is weak in foreign affairs, and the know how to operate in reality on the world scene. We should all say our prayers. This could escalate into something awful.
I agree; Putin is not idiot. I can imagine Bush II, I mean Obama, having a fit:
“why does Putin have to ruin my holidays in Hawaii. I don’t care about that Georgia and its South hu…O..O..Oss..hu…hu.. Osse… wait… what was it?”
meant: Bush III
He can always have sfhillary call Putin a racist, see if that works.
LMAO, Strawberry!
Yeah, whatever. You clowns have no clue what you’re talking about. Here’s the reality:
2002: Obama speaks out against the Iraq War, warns of unintended consequences after we have to manage the country. McCain is a strong supporter of the invasion.
RESULT: Obvious. The invasion was a world-historical disaster. Obama was right, McCain was wrong.
2007: Obama says we need a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. McCain says anyone who advocates withdrawal advocates surrender.
RESULT: By 2008, Prime Minister of Iraq openly sides with Obama. McCain and Bush now both advocate timetables for withdrawal. Obama was right.
2007: Obama says we need to dramatically increase our commitment to Afghanistan. Bush and McCain mock him and insist that Iraq is the central front in the war on terror.
RESULT: By 2008, both McCain and Bush now advocate increased commitment to Afghanistan, a year later. Obama was right.
2007: Obama says we should be negotiating with Iran. Bush and McCain both say that talking to Iran without them meeting absurd preconditions equals appeasement.
RESULT: By 2008, Bush starts negotiating with Iran without preconditions. Obama was right.
Bottom line, you PUMAs can make whatever claims you wish about Obama’s foreign policy acumen. The reality is, on virtually every major foreign policy question of our time, it is objectively verifiable that he was right and McCain was wrong. In the case of withdrawal from Iraq, talking to Iran and increasing troop strength in Afghanistan, this is all on the record fact that McCain and Bush have changed their positions to match what Obama was saying a year ago.
I’m sure you can all find a way to pretend this isn’t all true, but, sorry, it’s all true.
Man, it’s amazing how you and Barky twist the facts to suit your talking points. I’m guessing you’re just great at jazzing up resumes too.
(LMAO) it is so funny how BOBO hasn’t done anything yet other than give a speech and the rabid BOBOweenie has him pumped up the level of Churchill or Roosevelt.
No, I’m just saying that on the major foreign policy issues of the day, Obama was right and McCain was wrong. If anyone cares to disagree, feel free to tell me where my facts are wrong. The content-free bluster I feel comfortable just ignoring. Accusing me “twisting the facts” without actually saying which facts I’ve twisted constitutes a tacit acknowledgment that you cannot contest my claim in reality.
So I’ll repeat, PUMAs: I claim that Obama was right about invading Iraq pre-war, about withdrawal timetables last year, about negotiating with Iran and about the crisis in Afghanistan. Anyone care to argue the point?
actually you said The reality is, on virtually every major foreign policy question of our time, it is objectively verifiable that he was right and McCain was wrong.
Since our time hasn’t played itself out yet, the jury is still out on who is right and who is wrong. Generally history is a fairly muddled business so when someone like yourself comes along and starts making absolute statements about history before it’s finished playing itself out, we have to conclude that either you’re a retard or you’re a partisan hack. LOL we’ll leave it up to you to decide which you want to be but regardless of the choice, neither can be taken seriously.
are you trying to imply that bo’s words mean anything? that they will not change tomorrow, or tonight, for that matter?
you see, little girl, you have to start with a person of integrity before you can believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
I did. Scroll down. Of course, I’m not expecting a reply.
Comment by oh Boy | 2008-08-08 12:54:38
STILL no bon bons for the grumpy bunch at no quarter?
Can’t you take a break from being racists for a little bit; maybe go watch a Lifetime movie or something?
actually, Strawberry does know what she’s talking about.
Obama’s statements on 2007 Afghanistan and current Georgia are equally vague and meaningless. As with most his policy statements, they go whichever way you want to carry them.
… talking to Iran without them meeting absurd preconditions equals appeasement.
You mean like recognizing the existence of one of our Middle Eastern allies, a country with internationally acknowledged borders and a member of the UN since 1949? Those kind of “absurd” preconditions?
McCain is undoubtedly a hawk, but let’s compare Obama’s record.
2002: Obama gives a speech which no newspapers mentioned. Rev. Jesse Jackson spoke at Federal Plaza, Chicago in front of 1000 protesters. It was recreated on Obama’s website and scrubbed the following year. McCain said we needed more troops on the ground in order to win more decisively and withdraw more quickly.
2004: Obama was not sure how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution. He said his strategy was the same as George W. Bush’s. McCain called for Rumsfeld to be fired.
2005: Obama thought Condi would make a great Sec. of State. and was part of a unanimous consent agreement not to filibuster the nomination of lawless torturer Alberto Gonzales as chief law enforcement officer of the United States (U.S. Attorney General.) Obama voted to confirm Michael Chertoff, a proponent of water-board torture. He voted for John “Death Squad” Negroponte. Obama was in favor of every appropriation to Haliburton and Blackwater. He voted against Gen. George Casey to be Chief of Staff for the Army. He voted no to individual body armor, no to helicopters, no to ammunition, no to aircraft. McCain supported the surge, though it wasn’t popular. McCain still says that our strategy is determined by conditions on the ground. Since nearly half of our benchmarks have been met, there is a possibility that a timetable such as Obama’s might coincide. That would be a fluke of chance, though, and nothing that should sway our decision-making.
I can see who Putin wants to vote for.
1400 dead already – in the first 24 hours.
We will see more of this if Obama is elected. Lots of world conflict in formerly stable regions, or where stability was shaky at best. It’s scary and it’s no joke.
The world is in a panic that the US will be weak. They will all strike their enemies before they are attacked.
Obama has ruined alot of things and he really is a nobody. He ain’t midas because what he touches doesn’t turn to gold, it turns to ruin.
LOL. So, you’re saying that this crisis Georgia is Obama’s fault, simply for running for President? That’s rich. You people sound more like true Republicans every day. You think and argue at a grade school level in terms of your facts, in terms of magical thinking, and in terms of it always, always being someone else’s fault.
A grade schooler knows more than Obama. Take the 7 year old boy that told Michelle to tell Barry that we should finish what we started in Iraq.
Barry was owned by a 2nd grader.
The Bay of Pigs was Kennedy’s fault. The Russians and other superpowers are sizing up our candidates. The fact that our enemies like Castro, Chavez, Ahmadenihad and Kim Jong Il are rooting for Obama should send up red flags.
If during WW2, Hitler said he hoped Roosevelt would win reelection, Americans would have built a wheelchair ramp out the main door of the White House and wheeled his old, crippled ass out into traffic on PA Ave.
The world pays attention to our elections, and don’t think there aren’t people who would take advantage of our politics to suit their own agendas.
Susan,
“Ruin.” What a polite word for what you really meant!
-MS
Gee … who’d believe we actually have a constitutionally elected and still acting president? You must remember him. One syllable. Sounds like “crush.” Father was a president, too. Maybe we can sound it out together. First letter, “B” … here … b b b b b ….
Agreed….Rosary out now….( sigh ) Putin has been preparing for this for a couple of years…..Georgia and Europe are in at risk….and we are in the Middle East. VLAD could’nt have timed it better….GWB has stared into is soul and VLAD is chumpin a lame duck.
Things are shapin up for another Global Sweep of FASCISM….History is afterall just a record of Human Behavior….
with the dufuses we have been sending out to represent us(obama’s victory lap), no wonder the world leaders think we aren’t all that anymore.
hey! sfhillary…. Go practice your ‘o’ sign… Its just your speed!
What if with Sf Hillary, on one of the threads, it’s all about bot bashing on this one it’s about being a bot. I knew it; Clone bots.
He probably thinks its good news. The state of Georgia is too big to fit under the bus and that’s one less red state he will have to turn blue.
Seriously though, sadly one theory has it that his agenda (rather puppetmaster Brzezinski’s) is to promote war in that part of the world.
Take this all you hypocritical GOP Trolls:
Just Asking…
08 Aug 2008 10:55 am
If there were a group of questionable donations all with the name Abdullah
that were funneled through a guy in Jordan
who is a Jordanian national
who is under investigation for war profiteering
and it were Barack Obama
instead of John McCain
would this be a bigger deal?
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Jeez Louise! McCain’s campaign sussed out the donation and decided it didn’t pass the smell test. They turned it in after reporting it. Meanwhile, Obama has yet to return all the money to the brothers in Rafah, Gaza. I wonder if the Abdullahs who have no intention to vote for McCain sent the money, so the story would break at the same time Obama might have got busted taking this money from Hamas supporters?
Just a little troll analysis…
Did you notice what time sfhillary stopped commenting?
These asshole are on the Clock!
By the way sfhillary really dislikes being personally insulted. He or (It) waxes rhetorical and accusatory when he’s insulted and that is how you get to him.
Of our recent trolls, he types the best, but his content gets repetitive and he Alway uses Moral Equivalence arguments.
I rate him a six of ten on the Troll Scale.
Still stupid, but a fair typer.
I see a lot of the “Pulling Facts and Figures out of One’s Ass” method of persuading the lurkers he desperately wants to vote for Obama.
(sfhillary is the one who thought the Intrade website is run by “the pros”.)
and his claim that
is just laughable. Sure, they may talk to the pollster, but do they give truthful replies?
I know a few folks in bitter clingy Pennsyltucky land that purposefully give anyone seeking polling data incorrect info.
I see; you’re hanging your hat on the assumption that a lot of apparent Obama supporters are lying to pollsters but all the apparent McCain supporters are telling the truth? Good luck with that theory.
you aren’t worth the overtime they pay you. in fact i wouldn’t have you work for me for free. you’d screw up so much, i’d be out a lot of money.
Zeke,
Yep, I noticed, and a lot of the lowercase trolls are the same person, going to one thread acting bottish, then on another thread cooing support. Sick of them.
I appreciate that you respect my typing skills, Zeke. Not sure what you mean by ‘on the clock;’ I just stepped out for some lunch (it’s midday here on the west coast). Are you still convinced that the Obama campaign pays me by the hour or something? That’s pretty funny. Dude, trust me — I make a lot more money than Obama can afford to pay his bloggers, if such people actually exist. I’m one of the people who stands to benefit from McCain’s desire to extend the Bush tax cuts for households with incomes over $250k, except that actually doing would torch the economy and, like most wealthy people, a large percentage of my assets are in equities whose value would decline precipitously if the American people are stupid enough to elect another damn Republican even after the past eight years of astounding financial mismanagement. It’s really so funny to people like me: most of you folks are probably middle class, have incomes in the 30k to 75k range, and yet here you are so eagerly hoping for the victory of a candidate who is absolutely, 100% in bed with the big-money, corporate-America Republican circles whose only interest is funnelling as much of your tax money as possible into the pockets of huge companies and the stock portfolios of people like me, who own pieces of those companies and are already comfortably well off. I just don’t get it, and this is what accounts for my frustration here sometime. Do you people actually want affordable health care? Do you want a balanced federal budget? Do you want to receive your Social Security and Medicare payments when you’re senior citizens? If so, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU VOTING FOR A REPUBLICAN? Seriously — how stupid and wrongheaded can you possibly be? McCain is totally upfront about all of this stuff: he wants to cut my taxes, again, and privatize medicine even more (meaning, trust me, that middle class people will get screwed), and solve the looming funding crisis in the entitlements by cutting them too.
Sigh. You folks just don’t understand any of this, do you? You’ll cast your vote over tire gauges and Rev. Wright while the Republicans plot to steal your money and cast your families into poverty. God help you.
Your level of self delusion is astonishing. You must be one of the effete sorts who actually feel guilty for having some success. Well, dipshit, you go on with that loyalty to party all you want. Your pet peeve is hatred of all things Republican and, as such, makes you a bigot. Not too big a word there is it, you San Francisco treat.
Well. Rice-a-Wrongi, your superior attitude, bigotry and just plain, I’m from ‘Frisco so I must be “smahtah” than the rest of you front, is just a putrid means for you to attempt to assuage your guilt.
Tell ya’ what dickhead, if you’re so damn guilty for your success, do something assholes like you NEVER do…
Give some of your money to a decent charity. Or are you really like your douchebag leader who has given a total of One Thousand fucking dollars in his whole miserable career.
Go fuck yourself you effete little prick,
I’m done with you
Shit, THIS is why I wanted Hillary to be president. Because we who live next to Russia have known for years Putin will start wars and have hoped for an intelligent and strong leader in charge of the other supernation: The United States. Obama is absolutely clueless and if he gets the presidency it’ll eventually cost a lot for us. McCain however isn’t very smart and I’m not too confident on his ability to take on explosive issues like this. At least he’s capable of being strong instead of the other candidate who has to ask for the latest polls in order to take a position, an unstable one. Hillary had the whole package; intelligence and strength.
Oh well, que sera sera.
Wow, I knew this was comming. Puntin has been raising his army for the longest time. I think I may know why the government is forcing Obama down our throats. It may be a draft, if we have ww3 against russia, and what better way for compliance in the AA community than with a truley African President.
The high energy prices have really increased the power of Putin and his KGB, they have control over Europe for energy and lots of money to increase his grip on power. The new guy is just a puppet for Putin, this is a dangerous situation
all the more reason to send bambi packing back to chicago or wherever he really came from.
While war is never good and I don’t condone it, this may get the point across to the DNC that Princess Obama isn’t leadership material. Clinton needs to be the nominee.
All ready, McCain showed POTUS potential while Princess Obama hissy fitted his way through a statement. LAME doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Jesus, we need Hillary Clinton or John McCain NOW!!!!
Preferably Hillary!!!
To quote an idiot poster to this blog yesterday, “Georgia’s always been a Confederate State” anyway, so what’s the big deal??
Screw those typical whites!
I was thinking that same thing!
“Never Mind”
Emily Littela
What a contrast. Obambi’s statement sounds like a freshman undergrad hoping a professional will come along and figure out what to do…kinda just exactly like what’s outlined in McCain’s statement.
IIRC, Bushie was viewed by the Muslim world as weak and unready when he was elected. If Obambi is the Dem nominee and manages to squeek into office, we’ll be back at that same place again…
STILL no bon bons for the grumpy bunch at no quarter?
[admin edited. abuse & sexism]
I saw your mom is Ass Master 3. My left hand needs a break now. Thanks.
Wow! My spouse, a boy bo-bot loves lifetime movies! Maybe they will show some on a big screen in that ‘ol stadium they are getting in Denver. Frankly, that kind of programming make me puke. It appeals to brainwashed bots though.
fellah, you are from the racist crowd. you got that confused. no problem, we know the baby bambi’s are drunk on koolaid.
Oh Boy, what are you doing here if you don’t like the banter?
By the way. are you still dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck?
Psst,,, the retard vacuum sucked him onto this blog.
Damn that Bot is smart! How did he figure Alabama and Florida were stealing Georgia’s water?
More talk and no action.
Just appease the Russians as they continue their wonderful stroll back to a full fledged dictatorship.
I want to hear Hillary’s comment. I don’t give a crap about Barack Hussein Obama’s comment.
John McCain’s statement assesses the situation with a strong call for immediate resolution.
Obama’s statemest begins with “I”, of course, and then just babbles along.
Spot on. Obama’s statement shows little more than his annoyance at how this is ruining his vacation. Lord help us if we get this dope for a president.
Una Its not ruining his vacation. Right now he is very busy. Getting his original Birth Certificate al fir and ready so he can release it his adoring public. While waiting on this very important piece of business. He is relaxing himself, taking Limo rides with Larry Sinclair!
It isn’t an accident that Putin is doing this, while the Olympics are going on, Pres is out of the country and we have a hellish presidential race going. Our forces are hip high in busy. Timing is everything.
This is just a taste of what Obama will face if he becomes President(wash my mouth out with soap). He is probably more scared at this moment than he has ever been in his entire, do nothing life. The realization that what he does will fall on his shoulders alone will be a first for him. There won’t be anyone else to blame for his inevitable failure in dealing with this or any other world crisis. He will be required in front of the eyes of the world, to step up to the plate and 300 consultants/advisors won’t be the ones who get castigated in the press (yes, that will happen!).
I don’t think he is man enough to be able to handle that and with the severe ego/identity problems he has, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Superman become unhinged! Unfortunately, he’ll take our country down with him! It’s not too late to stop this ill-equipped human being. Vote Nobama!
Thanks Liz!
Well stated!
Hopefully things will blow over and be handled politically. No one can afford to have this stuff happen.
Putin and puppet (I guess I should bother to learn his name) know that the only countries willing to do squat are the US and England. Maybe Canada. But Europe can no longer be counted on. It’s a shame.
Xax….Europe cannot afford to freeze in Winter….I think you could add France to Britain…Sarkozy seems like a player in this one. Who knows maybe Putin will unite the European Union….Hmmmm…..
“Europe cannot afford to freeze in Winter”
true. that pipeline will be a sticking point.
OFF TOPIC:
But it’s bothering me. I just got finished watching FOx news and the anchor there was commenting on Hillary appearing at a rally for O. He said while she’s calling unity her recent comments on placing her name in nomination calls into question whether or not she has quit and given up her white house bid.
It bothers me that they don’t understand or bother to find out the truth- that she’s not vying for his position(even though we would like her to), but she’s simplying calling for fairness. Every candidate has had an opportunity to have their delegates vote for them and have the people who voted for them represented. This isn’t something new. I’m tired of the spin.
I can see it now. O loses, and he will, and the fanatics blame it on Hillary because she wanted to process to ACTUALLY BE DEMOCRATIC!
Look….I see it as HRC doin the best she can with what she’s got…..I’m waitin to see what developes….For example:
Let’s say that Barry gets the nod at the convention….Aaaaaand GOP Proves he is ineligible to be POTUS…..Who becomes the New nominee….A selected VP or the other candidate who won the popular vote…..Hmmmmm……
WJC said 2 things to remember…..1. He’s not talkin about anything until Jan. 09
2.It’s going to be a VERY INTERESTING ELECTION……
I think that anything can happen….and anyone who has studied Party History knows this…..see what I mean ?
I emailed Hillary this morning saying this is the perfect “3am” moment to answer the call to leadership.
NObama is too busy taking a VACATION in the middle of the most “historical election” ever. *rolls eyes*
ANOTHER reason to support McCain for his fast and intelligent response.
Hillary or McCain 08.
Essentially, Obama said Russian and Georgia should play nice right now.
Uh uh. And McCain already wants to send in international troops to quiet things down. And talks about getting NATO moving to stabilize Georgia’s dangerous situation. Not that Russia would have any concerns about possible NATO involvement with Georgia, of course.
I’m sure that sort of talk will quiet things down.
ming,
Provide evidence.
At least McCain has military experience.
Obama has militant experience.
Interestingly Obama may indeed have some influence on this war. Georgian analysts say the reason this war began right now is Georgia’s fear of losing the current support from the US they expect to lose when Obama is elected. And they want to get this “over with” now.
Israel is in the same situation. They fear Iran and want to attack before Obama becomes the president.
Obama’s inability to take a strong, holding position on ANYTHING has already caused chaos in the world. Everyone are afraid of losing the support of Obama’s America because they have no idea what he believes in.
What is the problem with Obama taking a week off? Remember, he’s not the president. McCain has been taking every weekend off. Why no complaints about that? The Senate is not in session. Upset that Obama isn’t going to be campaigning?
sfhillary–You seem to think that everyone here is a Republican? I can tell you that I have been a LOYAL Democrat for many years, volunteered in campaigns and, except for Bill, experienced defeat right along with them. I have put blood, sweat and tears into many campaigns.
I just can’t believe that we had a WINNING candidate with Hillary Clinton and the DNC just tossed her on the trash dump like she was yesterday’s garbage. And progressive? How did your guy vote on FISA? And what about the Cheney energy bill? What about him voting “present” all those times? What about some of your fellow Obama buddies who parted ways with him because of FISA? Are they Republicans too? What about your guy supporting “faith based iniatives?” I could go on and on.
The media is seriously confused when they say we are “upset” that Hillary didn’t win(even though she really did win) We ARE upset, yes, but it’s WAY beyond that. WE DON’T THINK HE’s QUALIFIED and that HE MIGHT BE MORE DANGEROUS IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN THAN A REPUBLICAN!! You think I want to vote for McCain? Hell no! But I WILL vote for him if Hillary Clinton does not get the nomination and please believe us when we say there are hundreds of thousands of us! And I’ll guarantee you I’m no “low information” voter, and I’ll be willing to bet I’m way more “high information” than most Obama supporters.
After writing all of this, I just want to say how could anyone vote for him? WHAT do you see in him? Besides all of the above, he’s a phony! Changes with whatever group he’s talking to.
Anyway, nuf said.
We live in a dangerous world.
Bill Clinton’s remarks that one could argue no one is really qualified/experienced enough to be president on day one is valid.
Given the choice of Mr. Obama with his thin resume of experience, his 130 present votes, his constant flip flopping, reversals, refinements, and re-calibration on issues or John McCain, a man who has countless years of experience working across party lines, having been a critic of the Bush administration, a man who has worked tirelessly for this country, I’ll take McCain, thank you very much!
Want to know what Obama really thinks? Listen to his first answer. It doesn’t matter what the topic is, listen to his first answer and then compare it with his third or fourth rendition.
Remember his position on Pakistan? He gave us his position and once it was clear Hillary’s position was more in line with real diplomacy, he adjusted. He does that all the time. He “adjusts” to meet the polls or whatever it is that moves him. How can one be against FISA and 24 hours later be for it, against offshore drilling then for it, going to honor his word on public financing and then NOT? The list is endless. Quick! Tell me what Obama stands for!
We live in a dangerous world. What we don’t need is a novice president presenting the world with resolutions that took 3 or 4 tries to work out.
I started off as an Edwards supporter and did look at Obama for a short time. Very soon after hearing his words and comparing them with his actions I became Hillary supporter. I have voted democratic more times than I can count, but cannot and will not vote for Obama or anyone I think is unqualified for the job.
Critics of PUMA’s, NOBAMAS, and the entire anti Obama movement should be ashamed of of themselves. Our forefathers wanted the citizens of this country to speak out against what they felt was wrong, unjust, unholy and bad for its citizens and the government. Seems to me we are patriots, doing what must be done.
BTW, I’ll bet Obama, Susan Rice, and his 300 other advisers have just found Georgia on the map.
One final point. Sunday evening 60 Minutes did a segment on Jeff Flake. He’s in the House of Representatives from Arizona. I think he’d be a perfect candidate for McCain’s VP. He’ young, charismatic, a maverick like McCain, and has a real record of accomplishment. I wrote about him yesterday. See my post on Watching Obama’s Campaign Implode and Picking McCain’s VP.
Compare a possible VP for the Republcans, Jeff Flake, with the DNC’s selection, Barack Obama. Compare resumes, experience, accomplishment and records. Need I say more?
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