Pet Peeve
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on August 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention, Hillary Clinton
You know what one of my pet peeves is? People not listening. It really gets on my last nerve. Maybe it’s because it almost cost me my life (I had ovarian cancer, and it took eight years to finally get a doctor who would listen to me. Now, don’t think it’s because I live down here in the Southland – at the time, I lived in New York City and Boston, not exactly your rural backwoods.). So, it really bothers me when you say the same thing over and over and over, and the person to whom the information is directed continues to act on their own delusion, um, I mean opinion.
In particular, I am referring to an article I saw today, “Obama, Clinton Stressing Unity,” by Tom Raum. It’s an AP article, and they are not very good at sharing, but here is a similar one at Fox (I know – ewww – but I was looking for something else I had heard was on there, and here the piece was). To sum it up, Obama essentially says that the Convention will not have tension between the camps, and that things have been “seamless.” SEAMLESS. You know, all of us Hillary supporters have decided that Obama is just A-OKAY, and we’re just pleased as punch to throw our unqualified support behind The Chosen One. SEAMLESSLY! HAHAHA.
Um, yeah, NO. Don’t know quite where you got that idea, Obama, but it is only because YOU ARE NOT LISTENING!!!! Ahem. I know – he’s not going to hear me even if I do yell at him. He hasn’t heard us thus far, neither has the DNC, despite our numerous, frequent, unqualified statements to the contrary. You know that I Own My Vote has been conducting a Platform Survey, to which over 3,000 people have responded (yay, TEAM!!!), and it makes our opinions pretty darn clear. But he’s not listening. The DNC is not listening. They really do seem to have forgotten the MEANING of the word, “Democratic”: relating to, appealing to, or available to the broad masses of the people, and favoring social equality.
Huh. I guess they DON’T know the definition, because they are missing the mark. The people have been speaking out, crying out, for a leader who will do just that – work for all of us, who listens to us, and who will work to bring up the lives of all of our citizens. We know who that is. At the very least, we want a party that actually cares what we have to say, that actually WANTS our input, that wants to know what issues are critically important to us, to our lives. At this point, we seem to have none, at least not a mainstream party anyway…
So here we are – the PUMAs, members of Just Say No Deal, and hundreds of other pro-Hillary, Pro-DEMOCRACY sites, yelling our hearts out trying to get someone to listen to us. Obama won’t, especially while he is on his Hawaiian getaway (you know the one – Hawaii – the alleged place of his birth. How CONVENIENT, as the Church Lady used to say, that he chose to go THERE, the place of the forged birth certificate!! Very interesting…). Yep – Obama is more than happy to go on a 10 hr flight or whatever it is to Hawaii, but he won’t make the couple hour flight to New Orleans to participate in a townhall there. This is the SECOND time he has declined actually going to New Orleans. (What’s that you say, Jesse Jackson, Jr., about politicians and Katrina?? Yeah – that’s what I thought – crickets.) The DNC isn’t listening, either – they have turned a deaf ear and a blind eye to us for months and months now. But we need to keep speaking out – for ourselves, for Hillary Clinton and for all that she stands for, and because it is the right thing to do. We need to keep speaking up so that those who have the ability to stand up for her KNOW they are not alone. We have their backs. And we will continue to do so.
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well you know Rev Amy, Obummer doesn’t deign to listen to “those people”, such as we are..
luckily we have Hillary who DOES see and hear us and STILL sees and hears us now and works for all of us every day…
now SDs do the right thing, or as Uppity says OWN your candidate
stop trying to preemptively spread the meme that his massive record breaking loss will be anyone’s fault but yours…
or better yet, give us Hillary and we can all go happily into the sunrise!
True. We are not the “right kind” of people. For example, being women who think women should be respected, makes us ‘uncool’ kids to the New Misogynist Obama Party. And democracy, well, that’s so passe these days as well to the ‘in’ crowd.
What irked me, too, was hearing that Obama said “we’re working out the logistics, as we would for any convention”. As if there’s nothing unusual about this one, as if he hasn’t stolen the nomination from Hillary and isn’t trying to steal the country from all of us. GRRRRR
OT, I had a note back from a superdelegate I wrote to and she said Obama was chosen by the voters. I managed to politely write back to say, um, excuse me, Hillary won the popular vote!
You’re not going to switch delegates, you know.
In fact, I have a good friend who is a Clinton delegate and she has NO intention of voting for Clinton on the roll call. As far as she’s concerned, this is done. Since she used to be the chair of our state party, she knows a lot of other delegates and she knows of NO Clinton delegates from our state who are voting for Clinton on the roll call and none of them are signing the petition either.
Frankly, it’s normal for the delegates to vote for the presumptive nominee at the convention. And that’s what you’ll see.
Sorry you didn’t understand the norms of modern convention politics before – but that’s how it’s done.
Keep patting us on the head and telling us in your condescending way just how stupid we are, and we will continue to voice our opposition to the takeover of the Democratic Party by the Obamabots. How silly of me to believe all these years that the leaders of the Democratic Party really believed in fighting for the rights of ordinary citizens and ensuring that elections were fair and not tainted by corruption. The SD’s can crown Obama king of the world for all I care; I intend to do everything in my power to make sure he and the lovely Michelle never set foot in the White House as President and First Lady. In other words, I will be voting for John McCain. I also intend to take note of the politicians from my state who support Obama and actively campaign against them when they come up for reelection.
“debbie”
Who established the “norms” of modern convention politics?
And, why would Obama, the man of Change, want to go with the “norm”?
Your logic is as bad as your writing.
So how many delegates do you know who are voting for Clinton? None of them in my state are, or so I hear. Neither my friend the former state party chair nor the reporter who interviewed me yesterday knew of any.
But I’m sure you folks have your own sources. How many Clinton delegates will be voting for her?
All I care about is how many voters will be voting for Obama in the GE if he is given the nomination. In my neck of the woods, Obama loses big time.
“debbie”
In which of the 57 states do you live?
Debbie Does Dumbass driveled:
Stupid troll! Time to change your name again or shrivel in shame.
Oblowme’s public farce at the football stadium is a FIRST! It is no honor to be invited to share with 75K others.
Poor delegates, but Oblowme just had to drown out the opposition and pretend he was MLK at the same time.
Your anonymous anecdotal predictions are idiotic.
Research. I suggest the subjects of History and Politics as you so clearly need to learn.
Funny! That’s what I write books about.
I didn’t say a thing about the history of past acceptance speeches, although as I’m sure you must know, JFK did his in a football stadium, too.
And the roll call isn’t on Thursday, the day of the acceptance speech. It’s on Wednesday, the day Bill Clinton is speaking. So the 70,000 folks won’t be there for the roll call.
Debbie Does Dumbass -
Only your other on-line personalities believe you’re out of High School.
Are you a delegate, Debbie? Which state are you talking about? Because I know a delegate from Colorado and she is planning to vote for Hillary. I saw a SD from Tx. on the news yesterday. He was Hillary’s campaign manager there and he will be voting for Hillary. He said Hillary’s delegates should be allowed to cast their vote for her historic campaign.
If you think no one will vote for her, what’s your problem? Why would “things have to be negotiated” between Hillary and Obama?
I have a theory, if you’re interested. They are afraid they can’t control them (us). The SDs vote is open. Hillary never officially conceded her campaign. Why are the news shows full of the possibility of a vote for her? Maybe the DNC and Obama don’t want to take a chance especially with Fl. and Mi. having a full vote. BTW. Have you heard Rep. Wexler (Fl) doesn’t live in Florida? He lives in Md. and the address he listed in Fl is a retirement home where his mother-in-law lives. Fl isn’t happy with him. There may be others whose states voted for Hillary and whose constituents are unhappy about their votes. Are you nervous yet? Just a tiny bit worried there may be some defectors the other way?
Jesse Jackson got a vote and he had 1200 delegates. Ted Kennedy got a vote and he had 700 delegates. Why is everyone so nervous about Hillary? Why are you insisting no one will vote for her? If you are so sure, what’s the problem?
mAnn Coulter writes books. I don’t believe what she says either. That’s 2 things you skanks have in common.
I’m not impressed
See, I keep telling my colleagues, it’s not that people who call BO the nominee, before the convention, are ill-intentioned; it’s just that they are ill-informed. On August 3, BO wrote a letter asking the DNC to reinstate the votes from FL and MI, effectively agreeing with HRC, these 2 states should have been counted all along. His rationale is found in this direct quote from that letter. “As we prepare to come together in Denver, however, we must be — and will be — united in our determination to change the course of our nation. To that end, Democrats in Florida and Michigan must know that they are full partners and colleagues in our historic mission to reshape Washington and lead our country in a new direction.” Presumably, the DNC will accede to BO’s recommendation, restoring FL and MI to the status quo ante, that is, counting the results of their respective primary elections as conducted, before punishing them for moving their calendar. Here are the new tallies for the candidates, including FL and MI. Total pledged delegates for HRC, 1735; BO, 1733. And she’s up by 286,687 in the popular vote count.
So Debbie, do you have anything original to say or do you just spout this one answer to everything thing? Because you’re pretty unoriginal and regurgitating the same thing over and over again is kind of pointless, isn’t it?
anchovy. I’ve seen your same drivel on three other posts.
that’s ok, you know, cuz all those super dels are going to own the failure that is obama. and they will own the failure to win the white house.
Good. Let all of them keep on dreaming.
Reminds me of “be good girls and boys” = condescending and “play nice” = guaranteed to elevate the aggravation.
There is danger in blindly obeying orders.
Let the fools follow their dictatorial Oblowme off a cliff.
If Oblahblah really believes this, he is certifiably
crackersnutsout of his gourd.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,….seamless…hahahahahahahahahahahahah…no tension between the camps…hahahahahahahahahah.
Sorry
Maybe Obama intends to make everyone attending the convention sign a “loyalty to Obama” oath. Those not willing to do so will be sent to the designated First Amendment Zone in Alaska.
Everyone must make the sign of the “O” (http://www.bythefault.com/2008/08/08/in-the-realm-of-the-unbelievable/)
in deference to the Mighty Intergalactic Emperor!
All Hail “O”
how quickly he will drop the clintons once the nomination is over.
We Demand a National Apology From Barack Obama
By Dr. Laurie Roth
August 8, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
The American People demand an apology and a swift rebuke by Senator Barack Obama regarding the huge amount of racist, anti-Semitic and anti-Israel propaganda that has been allowed on his official, Presidential, campaign blog.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
How about an apology for the sexism and misogyism?
They might not be listening, but I have a feeling they’ll get the message eventually.
If BHO doesn’t step on his crank between now and the convention, he’ll get an earful on election day.
What’s everyone going to do now that Hillary got the nod 2 days ago of which they are still in ngeotiations?
You won’t find this news on MSM.
They do not want to listen because they (Obama) are trying to wait out the clock they hope by ignoring those voice they will go away, they hope that all they will have to do is wait till the convention is over and the voices will stop, Obama listens only to Obama.
Great post RabbleRouser…
Here are some wistful thoughts
“A Glimpse of What Could Be.” http://www.stateofdisbelief.wordpress.com
[sigh] wake me up when this nightmare is over.
Thanks, State of Disbelief…
GREAT post on Hillary at your site. And my deepest sympathies to your daughter and your family for your loss. Words fail.
No doubt they are trying to wait out the clock – but to think that the voices can be blocked out with fingers in the ears and “LALALALALALA” isn’t exactly presidential material, IMHO. Still, amazing some people are buying that as an acceptable response!
wow 8 years of not listening…we pumas know when there’s something wrong!!! we sure as hell do
great post rabble rouser….i am so over it….who really gives a rats ass if they listen….they don’t care! everything obama says goes in one ear and out the other…when i can stand it…he’s gotten to me like bush did…just shut him out….
all i know is thank god for all of the listeners and no way obama no way
Obama is not the anti christ. But his church of 20 yrs with its black liberation theology is dangerously close to that of Jim Jones followers.
The Peoples Temple was initially structured as an inter-racial mission for the sick, homeless and jobless. He assembled a large following of over 900 members in Indianapolis IN during the 1950’s.
“He preached a ’social gospel’ of human freedom, equality, and love, which required helping the least and the lowliest of society’s members. Later on, however, this gospel became explicitly socialistic, or communistic in Jones’ own view, and the hypocrisy of white Christianity was ridiculed while ‘apostolic socialism’ was preached.”
It doesn’t help that his followers are very creepy in their adulation of him.
Frustrating, ain’t it? God bless the Pumas and JSND
members. They keep knocking away at the wall of DNC
indifference with their minds and hearts and just get ignored. So what, politicians aren’t worth it are they? We have one ittybitty bit of power, our vote, (if counted) and four years of enduring, my friends, John McCain. We’ll all be here just waiting for the golden haired lady to stage a comeback victory. Hopefully she will have positioned herself within this lovely democratic (cough, cough)party to do it.
“the broad masses of the people”
we are the people and we are listening to and reading every one of these posts, it’s only a matter of time now, the fake one will soon be exposed
They are obviously in denial. Hillary is trying to send the message by asking for a “catharsis for her delegates” but they shake their heads and can’t figure out why.
TV pundits opinion runs the gamut from there are only a few Democratis dead enders who aren’t supporting BO to he can’t win without Hillary supporters. So which is it? Guess we shall find out eventually.
I think Hillary understands that her supporters aren’t lemmings and will do what is in the best interests of the country, not the party.
Even if you found out Hillary got the nod 2 days ago and it’s being kept secret?
They are obviously in denial. Hillary is trying to send the message by asking for a “catharsis for her delegates” but they shake their heads and can’t figure out why.
TV pundits opinion runs the gamut from there are only a few Democratic dead enders who aren’t supporting BO to he can’t win without Hillary supporters. So which is it? Guess we shall find out eventually.
It’s not very smart to assume that if people are quiet they agree. PUMAs are just the vocal faction of Dems and Independents who aren’t likely to climb aboard the O train. It’s one thing to be reluctant to acknowledge that fact, it’s another thing altogether to be oblivious to it. I think TeamO is the latter.
I agree. That’s one reason people say Obama’s sad looking poll numbers are even probably over inflated. The less vocal among us might be quiet about their resistance or even pretend to cooperate publically, but in the safety of a private voting booth they’ll be expressing their displeasure.
The only reason there would be some of this for Obama and not McCain would be race. That’s called the Wilder Effect, and there might be a little, but apparently there was surprisingly little during the primary. At any rate, it’s likely to be swamped by the GOTV effect, which should give Obama a perhaps 2% bump in many swing states compared to the polls (see fivethirtyeight.com’s article today on organization efforts on both sides).
Very few of Obuhbuhbuh’s problems can be ascribed to race. In fact, most are due to protestations of racism where none exists. Many voters of all demographics are justifiably concerned about his slim resume, questionable associations and unreleased records.
No, I don’t think it’s about race so much as it’s about bullies. I have watched Obama supporters approach somebody and that person completely agree with them until they walk away. Sometimes silence or cooperation is not an expression of your approval, it’s a response to being pressured and intimidated. You don’t win hearts and minds by getting in people’s faces.
I saw the same thing at the caucus. People may have been intimidated into silence or into not voting, but that’s not the same thing as deciding to support Obama.
Excellent point!
bullshit. get over this and your talking points, they are old.
Now you just sit down little girl, cross your ankles, hands in your lap…posture posture…head UP. Now SMILE.
(Ya, not gonna happen.)
Thanks for the article. The problem is that you are dealing with very dangerous people who just executed a power grab. It wont be realistic to expect them to listen, they think their tactics worked and they won. Hillary called today for her supporters to vote Obama, they believe this is all they need with this group. Unless you want to sink to their level and be as cunning and dirty, the only way to fight is at the voting booth, and that is not going to go smoothly this time, you know what’s coming.
Yeah, that’s my concern – that Obama is so arrogant because they are planning to fix the election.
Shades of 2000 again. The people behind Bush wouldn’t be so stupid as to back another Republican. Obama is their man and he’ll be Bush’s third term.
LOL. So you think that the Democrats are going to somehow steal the election this year, when the electronic voting machines are run by Diebold Republicans? And all the people busily preparing ballot challenges and legal teams ready to scan ID signatures at the voting booths are all Republicans? Wow. I wish. But sorry, no — if there is any organized voter fraud on November 4th it will be the Republicans. There is a long tradition of this, and they have all the machines on their side.
Or do you think the Republican/corporate power elite really wants Obama to win instead of McCain? If so, you really need medical attention.
Oh no, no, no. If McCain is the only choice, we’re hoping the Republicans steal the election. Because anything is better than Obama.
Isn’t that what you wanted to hear?
We aim to please. After all, white or black, we’re just hopeless racists.
PUMApac.org.
Only some of you are.
No, only some of you think we are.
Keep it up, and the word [racism] which has been so abused and bandied about will have no meaning at all.
Then you’ll have to come up with something else.
Pathetic. As is your candidate!
“Or do you think the Republican/corporate power elite really wants Obama to win instead of McCain? If so, you really need medical attention.”
The corporate/power elite is BEYOND labels of Republican or Democrat. Yes, they want Obama to win. Get a clue. They would not back Republicans this year with the low approval rating. This is how they FOOL you, by backing a faux progressive they can control as the “alternative” to Bush & Co.
it’ll be sooooo sweet if the obama train derails the day b4 the convention! it’d be the perfect movie script ending/beginning! hillary 08!
A lot of bad things seem to happen to people connected to Obama. One day I’m angry at Kennedy the next day he’s diagnosed. I was mad a Tim Russert and then he just passed away. Edwards gets caught having an affair. Rezko winds up in jail, Rev Wright goes under the bus. Kwame Kilpatrick gets arrested.
No wonder Obama is having trouble picking a VP, people can’t help but get a bit superstitious after a while, LOL. Bad mojo.
It’s called the “I was shitty to Hillary flu”
Like my friend’s 5 yr old daughter always says “God don’t like ugly.”
Poor Hillary! She started with a $100 million dollar and 100 superdelegate lead but she couldn’t get the nomination. Too bad her campaign crew didn’t plan ahead or anything. Those leaked campaign memos coming out next week will show what a truly awful operation she had and how she lost.
Whoah, interesting media tip. I hadn’t heard that one. I’ll be watching for it. It’s pretty obvious she had a lousy campaign. If she had her act together in January the way she did in April, she would have become president next January.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/internal_clinton_emails.php
Hmm. Wonder how he got ahold of them. Obama’s campaign sure is working hard to attempt to change our minds about Hillary. I’m pretty sure that if anyone got their hands on the Obama’s campaign internal memos, he would be toast.
“debbie”
Statement made by Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair, Jesse Jackson, Jr. to the Washington Post regarding Hillary:
“The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson] — how does an African American candidate attack a white woman.”
Hillary’s mistake was in thinking that the DNC intended to hold a fair primary election. I’m sure she did know that the MSM would be in the tank for Obama; she gave them their second chance at bringing the Clintons down. Shame on her for not realizing that Obama and his surrogates were snakes, who would use “faux racism” as the weapon of choice, and shame on her for not realizing just how many people would be stupid enough to ignore the issues and fall for the “We’re The Ones blah, blah, blah” bullshit.
So it was the DNC that made it so that Hillary’s campaign made no plans for the post Super Tuesday states, so that they lost around 12 in a row?
Wow – they really must be powerful to have done that! It’s a good thing Hillary got her money’s worth from those high paid folks like Penn who you folks are now paying fo r.
And where were those 12 that they lost and what type of primary were they?
Utah, a primary
Louisiana, a primary
Nebraska, caucuses
Virgin Islands, caucuses
Washington, caucuses
Maine, caucuses
Democrats abroad, primary
D.C., primary
Maryland, primary
Virginia, primary
Hawaii, caucuses
Wisconsin, primary
I know, I know, the caucuses were all stolen. Whatever. I keep telling you guys Obama has a better organization. He sure proved it in February, huh? Oh well, you’ll believe me in November.
In fact, from the moment the MSM began reporting about BO’s relationship with Reverend Wright at the end of January, just before Super Tuesday, HRC earned more than 500,000 more votes than BO in the remaining contests. One can only imagine how many votes she would have received if the press had been reporting about him from last September. Anyway, this is all moot now because with the full votes restored from FL and MI, HRC again leads BO in pledged delegates. (She was always ahead in the state certified popular votes.)
The Mafia was well organized with the same thuggery process. Winning by intimidation is not a win. The bots ignorance of what is right and wrong is a group think sickness that has plagued our society in many insidious ways. Too many sheeple with no minds of their own.
The truth will come out. Good prevails over evil always in the end.
NOBAMA EVER!
No, it was Patty Solis Doyle…you know…Axelrod’s bff.
Just more typical Oblowme bad judgment – hiring such a loser!
And a traitor. Wonder who those campaign memos came from Ms. Patty Solis Doyle?
you are spamming debbie depends. get your act together
Yes, shame on her that she didn’t realize that “The One” was running. She would have taken her racist self and begged for forgiveness, learned the mantra earlier: “The Democrats will save the world.”
How stupid of Hillary! How stupid to think that the popular vote counts for something. How silly not to see that “an image” was more important than substance, that accomplishments don’t mean squat next to empty, but slick speeches.
How silly of us all, who will vote against this insubstantial, waffling, stammering, poor excuse of a presumptive, Presidental nominee.
How silly, but how extraordinarily important. But please, Barack Obama, keep on “urging” the Russians to leave Georgia. That’s just the kind of meddle I yearn for in a leader of the Free World. Needle the Muslim extremists to put down their weapons and make nice. Suggest the North Koreans and Communist Chinese be better stewards for their populations. Just make that secret hand sign, the big “O,” and all the world’s tyrants will fall to their knees. We’ll sing Kumbahyah. That will certainly work like magic. That’s the ticket!
Cut me a break. You want to go to La-la land? Take a frigging spaceship.
Debbie: Who cares? It doesn’t matter what you post we won’t vote for your unqualified corrupt cultist. Get lost.
Let’s pay no attention to the ghost from the other side. Sooner or later they tend to disappear when ignored.
Typical Obama type excuse for gaming the system and operating fraudulently…”They ran a bad campaign”
I’ve heard it all before on the other campaigns he had where he ruined the opponents for good.
This whole Onama campaign is built on sand. They can ignore us, pretend we don’t exist. They can ridicule [as they have] or threaten [as they do] or flick us off as totally irrelevant.
The only numbers that matter are the 3 million signed on members [some active, some not], and all those unaffiliated people who say “no, not today, not tomorrow, not ever,” which is far larger and in the end, the only thing that counts at the ballot box.
I hate to say this but the Democrats are expert at picking huge, historical losers. If I had to guess now, Obama will lose by unspeakable percentages. But the Dems don’t want to listen. There’s too much money spent. There are too many over-inflated egos on the line.
For the sake of country, the old USA, which I still believe in regardless of how flawed or scarred, we the voters will do what needs to be done:
Throw the liars and the cheaters and the thugs out.
If McCain is what I’m left with, then so be it. But Obama, Axelrod and his Chicago crew?
Never! World citizen? You can keep it. I’m an American, born and bred until the day I die.
And that’s not a sacrifice. It’s a personal choice, period.
JFK and Ronald Reagan both said they were citizens of the world. The phrase goes back to ancient Greece.
Provide citations, otherwise, you are blowing hot air.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/07/citizen-of-the.html
Have fun. JFK, Reagan and Dubya have all used it. Typical Republican horseshit.
JFK was a Democrat. And one of Oblowme’s favorite imitations, which he sucks at.
Notice how they were both PRESIDENTS when they said it? I don’t think Barack has said a speech that hasn’t been said by someone else first.
Barack is no JFK…or even Reagan for that matter…and I hated Reagan.
Hello? We’re not the ancient Greeks. We’re Americans [just in case you forgot].
And I wouldn’t use the Greeks as an idealistic example. The qualifications for “citizen” was pretty limiting. Read your history.
The phrase maybe, but Oblowme’s parents were world class 3rd World porkers especially for the 50’s and early 60’s.
Oblowme had to fake one of his sister’s birth certificates because of constitutional problems with his.
Which hospital was Oblowme hatched in anyway? How come they don’t want to claim him?
Why did he go to Pakistan? Terrorists R Us central.
Since Oblowme’s a bastard, his name is NOT actually Bothways Oblowme, so no votes but write-ins on the ballots for your world weirdo.
It may be a felony if he perjured himself by lying about his name on his Bar application.
Which name did he use? The law doesn’t allow ficticious names for lawyers personally signing legal pleadings.
WHAT’S ELSE IS HE HIDING?
Oh no – WHAT ELSE IS HE HIDING?!
yes, but they earned it. obama faked it
While I hate the term “mental disorders” I have been assured by friends who are psychiatrists that corporations and groups can exhibit symptoms of mental disorders. The tendency, on the part of both groups to not address issues and to keep on saying “everything is wonderful” is a symptom of much bigger problems. I think that the O group and the DNC have some serious issues and like George III and some past leaders in France, reality checking is not to their liking.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/obama_camp_to_hit_mccain_hard.php
Past Democratic candidates just stood there and took it from the Republican negative machine. Not my man Obama. He will hit back, just as hard, every time. Here’s how he’s going to attack in Ohio. And let me tell you — if McCain can’t win Ohio, he can’t win the White House this year, period.
He better start doing something about Ohio, his numbers are terrible.
“John McCain has opened a modest lead over Barack Obama in the key swing state of Ohio. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Buckeye State shows McCain attracting 46% of the vote while Obama earns 40%….When “leaners” are included in the totals, McCain leads Obama 52% to 42%.”
-Rasmussen Reports
538 still has OH as 56% chance of victory for Obama. But this is a good catch which I hadn’t seen, and probably accounts for the hard line they’re apparently going to take there. I’m glad. It will be fun to see the Republican squirming under an assault of manipulative, unfair negative TV ads for once.
They love to cherry pick those polls. Here’s the pollster composite: http://www.pollster.com/polls/oh/08-oh-pres-ge-mvo.php
Yeah, I know, Deb. That Rasmussen may be newer than has been added to the composite, which says it ends on 7/29. I’m sure McCain picked up ground in Ohio last week. This is what I love about the Obama campaign — they see everything that’s happening nad move quickly and decisively to attack problems, whether that means taking the compromise ground on offshore drilling (even if it pisses off environmental radicals like me) or seeing a small slide in Ohio and going on the air there with a negative attack. They know what the hell they’re doing, so much so that they do most of it effortlessly and civilians (like PUMAs) don’t even realize just how good they are. Because of organization, ‘08 turnout models and Obama’s newness, this race isn’t as close as it appears today. But they still will need to be very very nimble to beat the GOP machine, so these kinds of moments are great to see.
Hey what the SF!
You’re right! Their ability to REASSESS in the blink of an eye is legendary.
Thanks for the laugh!
Stop the hate!
You’re right. Obama’s brain is so-o-o big, he can’t even see his ass.
Jack be nimble,
Jack be quick,
Jack jump over candlestick
If Jack had jumped a little higher,
He wouldn’t have caught his arse on fire!
Yeah, I’m really impressed. Very, very nimble.
Well, the new Democratic Party cherry picked Obama, “debbie.”
yeah, and the new progressive American majority will cherry-pick him again on November 4th.
Dream on and have your little fantasy while you can. “Acting as if” will not get you the votes.
Why are you two cultists hanging out here? Can’t be too confident if you have to try to convince yourselves on every post.
“debbie” and sfhillary are the same person, or obviously have the same diminished mentality and enjoy providing deceptive information.
Neither write well and have nothing of substance to add.
Don’t count on it!
Heh, the progressives were all for Edwards first. HA! HA! The netroots have a poor record on their selections as they pick candidates only on FACE (pretty) value and don’t analyze anything. That’s the youth ignorance personality culture TRAP.
new progressive american majority?
sorry troll, you boys lost that when you dumped the democratic party and made up your own.
how progressive is bambi’s FISA vote? His iraq flip flop? His dissing voters, hell even yelling at them?
your true name for your new party is the “baby party”, and you will always diss the grown up adults.
go back to kindergarten where you belong, and try to learn how to play well with others. Bamboozel obambi didn’t.
Amy, I am so PROUD of you for stubbornly persisting in describing your physical problems. I’ve gone through the same thing, at least three times when I had serious health problems, and it is so very frustrating. I endured excruciating pain, when I should have been listened to, diagnosed properly, and gotten timely treatment.
I am also thrilled that you are with us. You’re one of our very special writers, and we’re so honored you contribute to No Quarter.
Have you read the book by that Harvard professor of medicine about the problems that doctors have in listening? He also writes for The New Yorker. His name has slipped my mind at the moment.
Jerome Groopman, you probably mean. Very good writer.
Q. Why did Obama change his name from Barry to Barack?
A. He thought Barry sounded too American.
SusanUnPC, thank you – truly, I am the one who is honored! Thank you for allowing my work here!
I am so sorry to hear that you have had similar experiences. I can sure relate to the excruciating pain part, but I really hate that you had to go through this three times. That is simply unacceptable.
I think there is something, too, when women try to tell doctors how we feel. It’s as if there is an immediate diselief that we could possibly have any idea what is going on with our OWN bodies!!
I do hope you are better now!
Our whole medical system needs an overhaul, but it sure isn’t going to get started under a McCain or Obama presidency…
Please read Our Daily Meds. The Pharma Corporations have created so many problems in the medical community. They actually create diseases to sell untested or old drugs under new names and the wasted money spent on advertising, courting doctors, lobbying has made the health insurance, medicare, medicaid, company health benefits crash and burn. The crimes the big drug companies have committed on society are horrific.
I read all the time but have never read a book that has angered me more than this one. Anyone that takes prescriptions, knows someone who takes lots of meds, have children on ritalin or are on prozac or any of those depressants MUST READ THIS BOOK.
OUR DAILY MEDS
15 years it took for me to be correctly diagnosed so I understand what Susan and
Amy and I’ll bet millions of women have suffered through with illnesses of all kinds.
And now Obama and the DNC have proven once again that women are 2nd class citizens and dispensible.
Seamless??
This is utterly delusional!! And this bunch would control the nuclear suitcase?????
Well, since the vast majority of Democrats are voting for Obama, yes, that would make a seemless convention.
How many of you will make the PUMA demo? How many compared to the over 60,000 Coloradans who got tickets for the acceptance speech?
Good luck with that ego session.
How’s Fisa workin for ya?
How’s him voting for Cheney’s oil men…really it was about nuclear energy but he ain’t sayin’
How’s the run flat tires?
debbie, without rancor, I ask you, What is his Obamaness doing taking a “vacation”…do you see Hillary or McCain thinking they have the luxury of sitting their collective assess watching the waves roll in?
You talk of a “vast majority” . What I find “vast” is your insistance on what “seemless” is.
There is NOTHING about the art of democracy that is “seemless”.
So while BO is on vacation the world is still spinning round ‘n round.
I will close by asking if you had seen BO’s response to the conflict between Russia and Georgia? I have never seen a more ill-prepared response in all my days….if that doesn’t rock your world, stay to the rear k?
Seemless. Really? Well the word “seem,” according to Merriam-Webster, definition 2 states”
“to give the impression of being”
Less than that, eh?
Thanks, but no thanks. I’d like something more than an impression. I know it’s asking a lot. But hey, I’m just a dreamer.
Get real!!
People pay to watch Bull Fights too, so that means nothing. Herd mentality, crowd mentality, sheeple- take your pick.
You couldn’t pay me enough to sit and watch Nobama in person. YUCKO!
Hmmm… he didn’t and he won’t. Your man is not qualified to be POTUS, but It seems that doesn’t matter to you. It does to the rest of us, though.
Obama graduated from Harvard Law School.
William Ury, co-author of “Getting to Yes,” and a leading negotiating expert, teaches collaboration (e.g., win-win strategies, common ground, stakeholder inclusion) at Harvard the Law School’s Program on Negotiation.
Obviously, Obama never took a class from Ury, or read any of his books.
People in Ohio know Obama from the primaries, the way he distorted Hillary’s healthcare plan. Obama will lie and distort the truth,that’s why he lost by double digits there. McCain will pull out the bitter comment that everyone will remember. Obama is a pretender not a leader.
Hillary has only two ways to the Presidency. She can run with him as his V.P. and if they lose, the path will be open to her in 2012. If they win the path will close, as she will be 69 years of age in 2016.She can decline the V.P. and still wotk to try to get him elected for the good of the Democratic party. If he loses, she could run in 2012 and win. There still would be a slight possibility at age 69 that she might run, but by that time she would have 14 years in the Senate and might even be the majority leader, provided that the Democrats are still in the majority. If she is not the nominee, I will vote for McCain or Nader.
What if she runs with him as VP and they win?
Rev. Amy Thanks.
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Ah, yes…”Snatch the peeble from my hand…”
Well done, Teakwoodkite!
My pet peeve is the dickducks who make comments that say “We will vote her out of NY” or ” She has until x time to this, that or the other thing.” OR look at how many jobs have left the state since she became the Senator. I guess those dickducks dont understand we have idiots in ALBANY. And thats the problem in NY. Not Senator Clinton.
Dickducks grrrrr.
MY pet peeve is the obvious bluster and arrogance by Obots. It makes the blog stink from their fear.
What’ll we do now that Hillary has the nod?
Hey Lou, you’ve said this several times. What do you know that we don’t? Did she get the nod and is she our nominee? If so, just say so, will ya and put us out of our misery.
The money quote is in the last half of the last paragraph, but you are cheating yourself and your country if you don’t take the small time to read thru all of this.
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MY 15 SECONDS WITH HILLARY
by Angelo Kanis
Friday August 8th 2008.
With opening of the Olympic Games just hours away, my attention was drawn to a more local matter. Well, I know an appearance of a state Senator and one-time Presidential candidate is not really local, more a national event considering the Senator is Hillary Clinton and her one-time hopes are technically still alive, but the Senators appearance was only about ten minutes from my house so it seemed local to me.
This story ends up with an average guy from Henderson Nevada shaking hands with one of the worlds most powerful and influential people and asking, almost begging her to please put her name into nomination for the upcoming Democratic convention but that would seem too much of a leap.
Let me go back in time a few days. I was and still am a staunch supporter of Senator Clinton even though I am a registered Republican. When I heard that Senator Clinton was going to appear at one of our local high schools, I thought it might be fun to go see her. I looked online where to get tickets and it turned out to be at an Obama campaign location so I drove over early to get tickets thinking that there would be a bit of a demand. I walked into the Obama office and immediately felt slimy as though I was in some kind of back room at a sleazy bar that ran crap games. I got my tickets and the young, very young man at the table tried to recruit me to me to volunteer to work for the Obama campaign. I looked at him and said no thanks thinking what happen that was so bad in this young mans life that had him so misguided.
When I showed up at the rally, I was besieged by vendors outside the school’s gymnasium hawking their buttons, hats, and t-shirts. Somehow, I still had it in my mind that this was an appearance by Senator Clinton not an Obama rally. There was a decent crowd waiting to get in but I was meeting a PUMA (party unity my ass) member there who was saving a spot in line for me. While waiting in line, we were approached by a woman from The Huffington Post named Mayhill Fowler who was asking some questions. She seemed genuinely surprised that there were so many Hillary supporters in the group. I made sure she wrote down our website http://www.nobamanetwork.com before she left.
Before I entered the gym I had a visual picture in my mind of something like going to a professional football game where you see tiny little figures far away and you watch the scoreboard for replays to really follow the game. This was far from the truth. I was able to walk right up to the security railing not ten feet from the speaker’s podium. I still had a few minutes to wait around and got to chatting with several others in the crowd. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that most people there were just like me; a Hillary supporter and had come to see her speak even though we all knew she would be speaking on behalf of Obama. There were a few speakers on the program but their speeches were short and the crowd respectfully applauded. One of the speakers was Nevada Super Delegate Dina Titus who shockingly spoke of supporting Obama even though Senator Clinton won the state of Nevada caucus and Titus’ vote belongs to Senator Clinton.
Then Senator Clinton was introduced and to my great surprise, I felt tingles up my spine. The entire gymnasium erupted in applause and chants of ” Hill-a-ry Hill-a-ry”. The senator was dressed in a fashionable dark blue pants suit with a string of white pearls. As she spoke of party unity I looked around to see that most of the people in the crowd did not applaud at all when she spoke of supporting Obama. It was clear the majority of the people in this crowd were Hillary supporters and were not switching sides to the Obama camp simply because the DNC selected him. Senator Clinton spoke of an energy plan, health care and some of the problems facing the state of Nevada. I was surprised she did not address the Yucca Mountain issues, but none of the candidates have really addressed that.
When Senator Clinton finished her speech the crowd again erupted as she walked down the steps and started to talk to people in the crowd along the security railing. She took the time to speak with people not just brush by them with a handshake and a smile. When she got to where I was standing I shook her hand and asked her to please put her name into nomination for the convention in Denver. Senator Clinton looked right at me and said “We are definitely taking it to a vote”. When I asked if she had gotten the 300 signatures she needs on the petition, the senator again looked me right in the eye and said “We are taking it to a vote”. I thanked her for all she has done and she thanked me for my support. It was a brief conversation, about 15 seconds, but its one I will never forget.
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Really enjoyed your post, thank you.
“We are taking it to a vote”
That’s all I needed to hear, thank you for this!