Platform Committee Meeting first post
By ProudMilitaryMom on August 9, 2008 at 8:03 PM in Democratic Platform, Disenfranchisement
From my blog, Common Sense Gram.
This is in the window at the Hotel
More Pumas
Pumas at the platform meeting
So here we are at the Convention Center in Pittsburgh. I met up with these nice folks. I won’t give out their names, but if you are reading you can identify yourself in the comments if you care to do so.
And how do you like that PUMA in the window? Imagine- the committee members walked by that every time they came out of the hotel to walk over to the conference center.
There was a PUMA protest outside before the meeting and again at the lunch break. I was interviewed by McClatchey News Service reporter and my local paper picked it up over the wires and there was a message waiting for me when I got home. Oh Oh! I spoke to the reporters about the caucus system, how it is unfair to the elderly, the disabled, shift workers, young parents. I gave my opinion that 2000 votes should not have the same weight as 2,000,000.
I can not post all this at once, but wanted to give some basic impressions. I saw Howard Dean and he isn’t looking like he feels too well. He is VERY THIN, something must be wearing him down. He came out of the elevator with no make-up on and the man looks like death warmed over. SKINNY! About 40 pounds lighter than what he looks like on TV. Gosh, he looks worried about something.
Well folks, it’s official – we got screwed on the amendment re the caucuses. Seems they decided there would be no unseemly debates and shows of dis-unity. NO NO NO!!!! the caucuses were deemed to be not in the purview of the Platform Committee and so were ruled “Out of Order.” I do have it on video that the matter is being looked at by the “Roolz” Committee. HAH- that’s going really far now isn’t it???
I am going to get a bite to eat and get my thoughts in order. More later! And maybe some kind soul will tell me how to get the video form my puter to the blog????
(Release: November 13)
on sale for only $16.95.
has a spatula.)
8% Off at $11.95, with a rare five-star ranking by 294 customers: 
And check out these: 
("This crazy redhead is on to something. Her pink Rambler story alone is worth the price of the book," writes 
- “Richard Sale’s reportage on Washington, the CIA, the American armed forces, and foreign intrigue has created a perfect background for this account of the steady growth of President Clinton as a master of the game of nations.”--W. Patrick Lang, former head of Middle East Operations, DIA
"Anne C. Heller's stunning biography of Ayn Rand" uses a "plethora of newly unearthed research and fresh insight."
“out of order” my ass! i love how that one woman stood up and said that she thought it was sad that they refused to address it based on a technicality. so true!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10cottle.html
NEARLY everyone in the Democratic Party seems to think that officially entering Hillary Clinton’s name into a roll-call vote for the presidential nomination at the Democratic National Convention would be a dangerous show of disunity. It’s true that having America watch as some portion of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,640 pledged delegates thumb their noses at Barack Obama would disrupt the party’s vision of a carefully scripted Denver love-in. But finding a constructive way for Mrs. Clinton’s seriously aggrieved loyalists to channel their anger and disappointment could wind up being the path of less destruction for Mr. Obama’s campaign. Plus, it’s the right thing to do.
Yeah well this is the first time it’s NOT being done. Fat Teddy had no problem waddling himself into a roll call vote with less than a thousand delegates. I am sick and tired of these old man keeping women down. They can all kiss my ass. They were right about one thing: We need fresh leadership in that party. And it starts with them. Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, Nancy, they are all porky and power has gone to their heads. It’s time to get rid of them and all those “discretionary” superdelegates they picked as well.
How Serendipitous to have that Cougar in the window! May be a sign that PUMA strength and influence is everywhere. Love it!
Great job!
I want to know why she needs a petition of 300 DELEGATE signatures to get her name in nomination, along with a written request for same.
Previous elections have had many names on the roll call ballot, they got less than 50 votes in most cases, so they didn’t even HAVE 300 delegates to get petition signatures from. What in the world has the DNC become?!
I’ll tell you where this “aggrieved loyalist” will “channel anger and disappointment”, if the Convention becomes a coronation.
Right inside the voting booth in November. I don’t have to do or say anything else. When November comes, I will channel it all right.
Me and all my bitter clinging long time democrats are not channeling to the democratic figurehead.
This is fair or I bail.
From what I heard and saw today, the DNC is clearly ready to coronate The One. For them, it’s a done deal.
For me, it’s No Deal.
I can only hope that BO self-implodes between now and the convention and we finally get to have HRC as the nominee. If that doesn’t happen, then I hope and pray that McCain doesn’t f*** it up.
PUMA
Exactly!
THEY are the ones who made up this damn system, and now it’s inconvenient?! I wish someone in the media would actually point out that this is based on HISTORICAL PRECEDENT!
Democratic Party –
democracy = disunity
Now that I’ve had time to consider it, the refusal to even put amendments 93 and 102 to a vote can not even rightfully be connected to any “technicality.” It was well within Robert’s Rules (insofar as I am aware) to pose said amendments and put them to a vote. The challenge to even airing them and the subsequent unilateral acceptance of that challenge, thus preventing a vote, was nothing less than a sad demonstration of how democracy and democratic processes would crumble under an Obama administration. To wit, “we don’t like it, we’re not going to deal with it, it’s someone else’s problem if we acknowledge that it even exists at all.”
I had to leave after that. I’d had enough.
There are no bedrock principles that are to be respected. They are all malleable according to their own interpretation and needs. That is the antithesis of principle. We saw that clearly at the RBC meeting, so it is no surprise that they would continue that behavior. It will be the same at the Convention.
Seth- I agree completely- you did not miss much they adjourned after spitting on Democracy.
Hey MOM!!
Sooooo which one ru?
(maybe no on else is curious but I am)
I’m so glad you got to go!
The “rules” only apply if they support their selfish agenda. Otherwise, they are “out of order” or “embarrassing.”
If Dean looks that bad, with that much weight loss..I wonder if he has advanced cancer. From your description it sounds more than work and worry.
Classy
Like I said before, any person who supports a candidate who slaps his wife in the ass on national TV, tells women that his vibrating cell phone isn’t a boner, plays Muthafucka HO rap music and gives the finger on video hasn’t earned the right to discuss what’s CLASSY.
And frankly I find your screen name insulting. But then that’s why you did it, because you are a shining reflection of what Barack OBigHead really is.
Tell it Uppity!
right on Uppity!
Good lord! Get a life. Slaps his wife on the ass? It was a love tap: I am a professional woman and have been for the past 25 years. It is perfectly OK with me if my husband pats me on the back. Stop being so sensitive: Michelle Obama is perfectly capable of standing up for herself.
Professional what? No sorry, that was common. Like Prince Charles would smack Camilla on the bum in public. You are tacky.
Just in case you’re not too familiar with anatomy: the back is not your ass.
Preach it Sista!
a smack on the ass is real class right…
Just shows how low he will go!
But he likes his ass smacked RIGHT ??
How embarrassing…
And any TRUE professional would no way allow her husband to smack her ass in a working environment let alone in front of the whole world.
BTW a pat on the back is different than A SMACK ON THE ass lady!
Nemesis is catching up with a lot of people. It is getting scary.
Yes, classy indeed.
PMM you and your pals are true patriots….I salute you.
BTW…Caucuses also screw the military serving from their say as well….Maybe add to your list.
BRAVO, PUMAS!!!!
You are awesome.
Hillary Rodham Clinton for president!
PMM, I’m so excited! Now I know I am looking at you, I just don’t know which one! You are doing such a great job of reporting. Furthermore you are just so damned cool!
As for Dean. Pffffffffft.
heh
Cleanup! Aisle Six!
9 PUMAs (8 women and 1 man) showed up at the convention? This is good?
Love da PUMA! You chicks rock!
The caucus system has to be abolished.
I for one won’t vote for another democrat until it is.
Howard Dean looking a little thin and weak? Maybe some cat chow will set him right.
If they do not change or eliminate the caucus system after this blatantly distorted primary process, I will not support the Dem Party in any way until they do.
Make it from China.
This comment was for cdo re feed Dean cat chow.
I was there, and I am proud Democrat. MBD thank you for all your work and support, we did well, and we spoke up for the injustices that have plague the Democratic Party.
Now if you don’t support Hillary, that is your right this is a democracy, but you should be in a rage, that the Democratic party has been hijacked, and the rules and bylaws are being violated. “Please” help the proud Democrats everywhere to hold the Democratic Party held accountable for the injustices that they have inflicted in the nominating process.
“Thank You Who Attended And Supported Are Cause”
See you in Denver…
Are You Drinking Enough Kool-Aid? The Obama Test Can Tell.
When Obama becomes The Supreme Oneness, there will be no room for dissenters. All will join his Brown-Shirted Defense Force to spy on former Republicans. All PUMAs will be euthanized, as there will be no viable natural prey. Take The Obama Test to see where you might fit in the new Utopia.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1037
Well cripes bill, you stole that from me. They already saw it. You’re lucky I love you.
I will be part of the resistance, i.e. PUMA
Oblahblah will never make that far though.
Caucuses have got to GO — be eliminated — terminated.
Thank you all for standing up for those of us in the UNdemocrat caucus states.
PUMA
I was with Proud Military Mom when Dean walked past us, I said ‘Good morning’ to Deval Patrick and I rode in the elevator with whatshisname Conyers. But for me, the highlight of the day was meeting Proud Military Mom.
Proud Military Mom, you are the best!
I come to No Quarter to lurk, to read, and to try to learn from the rest of you. I was in awe of how knowledgeable and well-versed in all things political that PMM is. She represented us superbly!
PMM, I have never before heard anyone say the Pledge of Allegiance with as much pride and power as you do. The memory of that will stay with me always.
It was really great to meet the other No Quarterites, too. Lucy, I’m glad to have had the chance to continue the discussion on the ride home.
I left the meeting at the lunch break. I was completely offended every time that the committee members referred to Obama as the nominee. The convention to vote for and to choose the nominee isn’t until later this month, therefore, IMO, there should have be no mention or discussion of Obama being the nominee. Or, if they HAD to talk about him, they should have used the term ‘presumptive nominee.’
PUMA.
EJ! Thanks! When I pledge- I mean it! You would have been crying by the end- I was. And that Larouche bunch? they were singing beautiful patriotic songs- very well I might add- had us all in tears.
Third party. Now.
New Democratic Party. Now.
Democratic Party Refugees/Victims of the Obama-Brazile Purge: Unite. Now.
The Democratic Party that once was, is no longer our home.
I agree , there is power in numbers and the two rotting parties we have now are not working out well. Right now I have one goal “to defeat The One” after that where do I take my vote, which corrupt party do I chose.
Nobama!!
The time is right to bring together moderates and form a third party.
I agree 100%! New party now! The Democratic Party is no longer democratic – it is beyond repair. I can think of a few countries this party would feel at home in, but America isn’t one of them.
We need a democratic party now!
Big Democratic Union Charged with Corruption
Obama’s ties to the SEIU go back years. Now the local head of the SEIU in California is found to be embroiled in corruption. The union has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to firms owned by the wife and the mother-in-law of the labor organization’s president. All under the eyes of Andy Stern.
California’s largest union local and a related charity have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to firms owned by the wife and mother-in-law of the labor organization’s president, documents and interviews show.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
I was involved with the submission of the amendment regarding caucuses. we also submitted language to amend the healthcare plank to make sure there was no question, doubt or vagueness that the Dems will work to cover all Americans, 100%, every single one. That amendment was merged with another wonderful healthcare amendment and we hit a home run for Hillary and her supporters on that key issue.
We knew there would be push-back and the caucus proposal would be unlikely to pass this weekend. We wanted discussion and to start creating some momentum within the larger Democratic family to overhaul primaries.
This is why some of us are urging PUMAs to keep their Democratic voter registration. Hold your place in the party. Don’t automatically endorse Obama. However when you register Republican or publicly declare for McCain, you no longer have a voice in Democratic Party affairs.
I think this will be a tough fight. Many have built their whole careers within the Democratic Party through insider rules that make it easy for those in power to stay in power.
We can win and take control over our party again. Instead of becoming an Independent, run for your state committee. Running for City Hall, State Legislature or Congress is expensive and you really need to be an experienced pro to compete. State Committee Races are cheap, $1000-$5000 for the whole campaign depending on where you live. Also as few people pay attention a smart motivated person can turn out their supporters and easily win. READ THE RULES FOR YOUR STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I stress it because if you know every rule inside and out, you will know how to win.
If we can take over state parties, we take the DNC. primaries change, insiders gaming elections change, sexism will no longer be tolerated.
JDW as much as I am no longer a democrat, I will not relinquish my registration, just yet.
Keeping my registration- and have been asked to think about being a precint leader. little do they know!
Good for you PMM. I will not leave the party………yet. See what November 4 brings and if we can rebuild a party like we should have..
military mom:
Thanks for a great story. Your work is just great and your passion will keep the flame lit. Keep the Faith!
and all the best to yours….
Thank you to every one of you wonderful Pumas who represented us. You are true patriots and take pride in protecting our country from those who would bring her down. You are our heroes.
A week to go; before I take off for Denver…not going in; just gonna join all the COOL CATS (PUMA) outside! Thinking of going around with a gag in my mouth and handcuffed..man could you see a thousand of us standing there gagged and handcuffed and watch them try to explain that!
Seems it’s gone past Hillary and now it’s the party were fighting. Sad days ahead everyone,,, sad days.
I can’t see how anyone would vote for any member that supports this bunch of selfish dominating pricks! Don’t do it…keep a list and stick to it.
Can somebody answer this for me.
If Obama is the nominee and I vote D do Howie, Harry and Nancy get to keep their jobs? Assuming Obama wins.
If I vote R what happens to those three? Right now my feelings are, how can I vote so that it fu*ks the Democrat Party to the max.
Voting McCain (and some down ticket who supported Princess O) screws them all royally to the max.
Who the “H” “E” double hockey sticks do you think you are. I am a proud Democrat and because I choose not to vote for the big stink B.O. , I will still have a voice if I choose to vote for McCain. Because I will remain a Democrat to the bitter end, unless you are telling me I will be kicked out for voting my choice of candidate. Holly Bully they are just trashing the rules and bylaws. Should I bow to you for the bone you threw by putting a few paltry offerings on the platform. JDW kiss my grits as Flo would say. I am ready for the show down. I am ready for this fight…
If they had accepted the caucus amendment and did anything with it, that would have been admission of guilt that the process was flawed this time around. They would never agree to that. Caucus vs. primary may also be a state party issue. We all have to work with state party apparatus to change it in our respective states.
Why isn’t this a state against state issue? Have not certain state voters been injured by others?
You know it pm317… What do ya think a thousand women marching with gag’s in there mouths and handcuffed for a statement to the?
Are you advocating that people going to Denver help the police out by hand-cuffing themselves?
LOL
McClatchy has published an article about the amendments to ban caucuses – http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/47152.html
That link was lifted from this post at Corrente – http://www.correntewire.com/campaign_updates_and_media_headlines_8_9_08
I believe the current crew at the DNC go by the old edict: “How do you know you have power unless you abuse it?”
Don’t believe for a minute that they will budge an inch on anything that gives the Clintons or their supporters any real power. They have taken over the party and the only real choice anyone has to get them out is to hand them their heads in a basket. Only a complete rout in this election will force them from their jobs. Soros & Co may still find figureheads to fill in the void left. The puppetmasters have an agenda to fulfill and they won’t go willingly. We have the power to render the “new” Democratic party irrelevant. And I say this with the greatest of sadness as a 4th generation “yellow dog democrat”. Never did I think I’d see this deep corruption take over my party.
I am telling you this whole thing is like a hostile corporate takeover.
Ehemmm…Fascist is as fascist does…nuff said…
Listen, every Dem. who has had elected delegates had their name placed in nomination. Senator Clinton must also do the same. She needs to think of the precedent she would set! Forget the pleas for appearance. She deserves to be treated like all other Dems. Kennedy did it, Jesse Jackson did it, I believe they all have. Clinton supporters are not asking for anything different. Than after the process, I will still not vote for the phony compromised, blackmailed puppet Obamamb! He is not qualified to represent me
Hillary has known, all along, that Dim Bulb would start looking stupider…
He’d show his anger and have to face the fact that he CAN”T WIN WITHOUT HER, but he wouldn’t be able to govern with her as VP.
She has done the right thing to wait. She’ll sign the petition. She just can’t do it yet.
Well could it be that Donna Brazille is a mole now that she messed up so bad with the Gore campaign that the only people to bother with her was republican men from her own mouth.
So I was just thinking that since her call from Karl Rove from air force one that perhaps the offer was great enough for her to silently play the mole act.
Just wondering who’s side she is really on now that she has such friends in such high places.
If Karl Rove and Donna Brazille had a love child, what would it look like?
Muffeeeel…mummmbbllel mummmmblel (Can’t speak, Dean & Company has me gagged)
Convention — can’t vote either; because our hands are tied!
Just one good backlash to teach’em a lesson on who’s party it is!
JDW: You give me hope for real change in my beloved Democratic Party. Thank you for your work and your inspiring words.
I am disappointed and outraged by the actions of the Democratic Party. If Hillary is not nominated at the convention I will vote all straight Republican in Nov. If the super delegates do not have the fortitude to remove the stranglehold the Obama Campaign have over them they will not get my vote. We recently returned from vacation in Monticello and I saw a quote there by Thomas Jefferson “I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.” – Thomas Jeffeson, letter to James Madison. Sounds to me like he was a PUMA too.
sockpuppet frayed
give the job to a real woman
Good luck guys in getting rid of those crazy undemocratic causes …….. they are so last century (the beginning of it that is)! Probably worked ok when the world was a much smaller place – but have absolutely NO place in a modern democracy! I’m an outsider but have been closely following your political “quagmire” since early January – and was absolutely astounded that such a selection procedure currently existed in the USA! It was v. obvious to me the BO campaign was playing the caucuses in any way they could – good or bad – to try and demolish your very best candidate ever, Hillary Clinton! She should be your POTUS and our Leader of the Free World – and looks like your goddamn caucuses have lost that for us all
Oops, for causes read caucuses!!!
Woo Hoo! We made it into the LA Times!
From RCP:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-campaign10-2008aug10,0,443871.story
Clinton supporters at Democratic meeting fail in bid to end caucus system.
By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 10, 2008
“Tensions between Obama and Clinton forces were evident at the Convention Center here, where the meeting took place. Clinton’s supporters sat together in the audience, wearing campaign buttons and T-shirts bearing her name. One person hissed when Obama’s name was mentioned.”
I wonder who that was!;)
EJ in PA – would have been me if I could have been there!!! Congrats for hitting the news – any publicity and all that ……!
I was honored to hiss, lol and I was not the only one, look I believe in my heart as long as your not standing up throwing bricks, a little hissing does not hurt, yes we are putting our selves out there, and yes we can come off as lose cannons or the crazy, and yes we want to look respectful in the sense we are there with Hillary shirts on and the like, but we have already been labeled as to quote one person “we are not dealing with reality” because we have not fall in line like happy lemmings, I myself am fed up with it all, I have people here who are so mandy pandy and wishy washy, this is whats wrong with are country, people here are afraid of there country or are detached from it all, we got propaganda in the media, and lethargic people who have the attention span of a slugs, unlike other country’s where if they where getting served up the garbage we get here they would have been in the streets, now as for someone I care about, an organizer here who I dearly love and have respect for her, some call her mother duck, I always told her I don’t like being in front of a camera, I don’t mind making a comment in a news paper, camera no way, she went out of her way to try to keep me getting interviewed in the press, also chastised a few others to keep me in line, I was offended for awhile, but over it, and just let it go, there are more important things I need to be doing and I rather put my energies to something more positive, I am a strong women, actually we worked long and hard together, been on the road together, we where planning for some time about Denver, I believe I am on my own there, well not actually we should have a nice little group here going, but it all justifies the means, the DNC knows we are here and not going away, besides what I have seen that the ones with the true grit tends to be the only ones who step up to the plate, and that is the point, if we could get 500 thousand in Denver, I believe they would think allot harder of what they are doing, we only had 2000 in DC, I still have faith, ore work to do, and I serve no more use I believe for the organizer I mention so I probably will not hear from her, no bother more work to do for Hillary and to reform the Democratic Party, as my favorite quote goes no self respecting woman would wish or work for a party that ignores her self…
Oh, and btw, love the Cougar in the foyer – I’ve got an American bourbon whisky belt buckle sitting on the edge of my laptop! It has a Cougar Head embossed on it and makes a great P.U.M.A. symbol – in the absence of being able to do much else from here
)
Thank You for the great report ProudMilitaryMom and for being there to represent us. I’m proud of everyone that showed up to fight for democracy, fairness, and truth. Looking forward to hearing much more. Last night you asked me to remind you to tell a couple more stories that happened, one funny one in particular about languages. Congrats on your first NQ post.
I’m honored and excited that I will have the pleasure to be traveling to Denver with you. We’re probably going to have to record half of that too as I know it will be quite the interesting and fun filled trip! Here’s my virtual toast to you until we can have a toast together in person: *cheers*
WE ARE 18 MILLION STRONG! THESE PICTURES PROVE HOWARD DEAN’S WORST NIGHTMARE! THERE ARE MILLIONS OF US WHO WILL STORM THE CONVENTION!
I KNOW THESE PICTURES DON’T LOOK LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS JUST A SMALL WARM UP EVENT! WAIT FOR THE CONVENTION! THERE WILL EASILY BE 2 OR EVEN 3 TIMES AS MANY OF US THERE!
WHEN DEAN AND HIS CRONIES ARE CONFRONTED WITH 20-30 ANGRY FORMER DEMS IN THEIR FACES, THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND GIVE THE NOMINATION BACK TO THE RIGHTFUL WINNER!*
NOBAMA!
MCAIN 08
HILLARY 12
*(I.E. HILLARY! DUH!)
For some strange reason I’ve got Alanis’s song “Ironic” stuck in my head.
[...] silly me, he had to golf to relieve all that stress from dealing with lowly dead-ender voters. ProudMilitaryMom give’s the play-by-play scoop on what happened. Many hugs to ProudMilitaryMom next time you see her comment here at the [...]
You mean Howard Dean looks even WORSE in person?? I didn’t think that was possible.
He’s lost weight, too? I wonder if it has to do with his constant constipation.