By Larry Johnson
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Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on August 10, 2008 at 6:10 PM in Hillary Clinton, John Edwards
If the story were known last December of John Edwards’ “egocentric and narcissistic” sexual “liaison,” as he calls it, with a woman he says he wasn’t in love, at a time when he says his wife was in remission from cancer (strangest rationalization for an affair ever recorded in human history), there can be little doubt that today the strongest, best qualified candidate, Hillary Clinton, would be the Democratic nominee.
Instead Edwards stayed in the race, harboring his secret life, knowing that it was likely to be exposed and that if he were somehow to emerge from the primary pack he would be humiliated and obliterated, just as he is now.
In the meantime, knowing full well that he was damaged goods, Edwards engaged in a ferocious negative campaign against Hillary–not Obama.
In effect, he was acting as Obama’s running mate. And Obama benefited enormously from having Edwards do some dirty work against Hillary.
Here’s Edwards’ record of negative attacks against Hillary below. For this, more than for his human failings, he deserves scorn.
EDWARDS:
12/04/07 Edwards said Hillary puts ‘the profits of Wall Street over the interests of Main Street.’
[Source: Edwards Statement]
11/29/07 HEADLINE: Edwards Hammers Clinton by Taking Aim at Lobbyists
[Source: Wall Street Journal]
11/21/07 HEADLINE: Edwards gambles on attacking Clinton
[Source: Raleigh News & Observer]
11/18/07 HEADLINE: Edwards goes atomic on Hil for dodging nuclear energy question
[Source: Daily News]
11/18/07 HEADLINE: Edwards Criticizes Clinton over Iraq
[Source: AP]
11/18/07 Edwards: ‘Senator Clinton was not for universal health care at the beginning of this year, at the beginning of the campaign.’
[Source: CNN Late Edition]
11/18/07 Edwards said Hillary wants to ‘protect politicians instead of talking about what we can do together.’
[Source: CNN Late Edition]
11/18/07 Edwards said Hillary was ‘walking away from [her] leadership role as a presidential candidate.
[Source: CNN Late Edition]
11/15/07 Edwards said Hillary ‘continues to defend a system that does not work, that is broken, that is rigged and is corrupt.’
[Source: Democratic Debate, CNN]
11/14/07 HEADLINE: Edwards criticizes Clinton at Dubuque labor event
[Source: AP]
11/12/07 HEADLINE: Edwards criticizes Clinton for ‘double talk’
[Source: AP]
11/12/07 Edwards chief advisor Joe Trippi: ‘Let’s kick her ass.’
[Source: Politico.com]
11/10/07 Edwards said ‘Sen. Clinton in many ways represents the status quo.’
[Source: Politico.com]
11/06/07 Edwards accused Hillary of ‘double talk and evasions.’
[Source: CNN]
11/05/07 HEADLINE: Edwards Accuses Clinton of Two-Faced Foreign Policy
[Source: Fox News]
11/04/07 Edwards said that Hillary ‘operates within a corrupt system and defends it.’
[Source: ABC News]
11/02/07 Edwards accuses Hillary of ’spin, smoke and mirrors — the same kind of double talk.’
[Source: CNN.com]
10/31/07 Edwards said Hillary ‘is trying to have it both ways.’
[Source: AP]
10/30/07 Edwards: ‘If people want the status quo, Senator Clinton’s your candidate’:
[Source: MSNBC Debate]
10/30/07 Edwards compares believing Hillary will be ‘the person who brings change’ to believing in ‘Santa Claus’ and ‘The Tooth Fairy.’
[Source: MSNBC Debate]
10/29/07 Edwards says Hillary was not in ‘tell the truth mode.’
[Source: Foster's]
10/28/07 HEADLINE: Edwards accuses Clinton of failing to connect with voters
[Source: AP]
10/25/07 HEADLINE: Edwards blasts Clinton, Romney on Iran
[Source: AP]
10/23/07 Edwards advisor said that Hillary would have ‘toxic coattails.’
[Source: LA Times]
10/21/07 HEADLINE: Edwards attacks Clinton fundraiser
[Source: United Press International]
10/19/07 HEADLINE: Edwards campaign slams Clinton push for rural vote
[Source: Boston Globe]
10/19/07 Edwards Campaign manager says Hillary ’should explain why she does not mean what she says.’
[Source: Bonior Statement]
10/08/07 Edwards spokeswoman says Hillary is ‘defending a rigged system in Washington.’
[Source: Washington Post]
09/18/07 HEADLINE: Edwards hammers Clinton on health care
[Source: Chicago Tribune]
09/18/07 HEADLINE: Edwards slams Clinton fundraising lunch
[Source: AP]
09/08/07 HEADLINE: Edwards slams Clinton on health care
[Source: AP]
09/08/07 HEADLINE: Edwards Takes On Special Interests, Hits Clinton
[Source: AP]
08/27/07 Edwards advisor says Edwards ‘has a better chance of being elected pope’ than Hillary elected president.
[Source: Washington Post]
08/24/07 HEADLINE: Edwards takes shots at Clinton ‘nostalgia’
[Source: Chicago Tribune]
08/23/07 HEADLINE: Edwards slams Clinton, ‘establishment elites’
[Source: CNN.com]
08/07/07 Edwards said I am not “the candidate that big corporate America is betting on.”
[Source: AFL-CIO Forum]
07/24/07 Edwards said ‘we will not have big change through compromise or triangulation.’
[Source: Atlanta Journal Constitution]
06/07/07 Headline: ‘Edwards Assails Clinton’s Terror Remarks’
[Source: AP]
05/04/07 Edwards called Hillary’s proposal to deauthorize the Iraq war ‘just noise.’
[Source: Edwards statement]
02/05/07 Headline: ‘Edwards Steps Up Hill War’
[Source: New York Post]
what? I’m first???
I always thought Edwards was a nutcase and opportunist.
I mean, he dropped out of the senate so he could hang around Iowa campaigning for president for FOUR years before the primary! Iowans must have been terrified of the loon.
In ‘04, he was Mr. Righteous about not attacking, and scolded other debaters when they did.
Then in ‘08, went after HRC like a rabid animal.
In ‘08, he was trying to get the old Dean base, by claiming to be the new left. Then it turned out his senate record was conservative.
The Daily Kos droids were sucked in. Even though Edwards was a slick talker with nothing to back it with, they fell all over him.
His hypocrisy reached a pinnacle when he endorsed Obama whose plans were to the far right of Hillary Clinton’s.
This concocted BS about claiming he would do a DNA, then getting his girlfriend to refuse. And getting his best friend to say that he was the father.
This man is a liar and schemer.
Who else here thinks Obama got a timely endorsement from Edwards by a veiled allusion to his family issues?
very much so
Me, Me, yes I do! Count me!
Sadly I agree.
Yes, this is the kind of dude that gives decent lawyers a bad name.
Edwards is a quitter. This affair rumor was out in the National Enquirer in Jan or Feb. I remember bringing it up at dkos back then and the progressive thugs jumped all over me for it.
The kids saw the pretty face and based much of their support again with that American Idol mentality. Many of us thought he was like a used car salesman and that hair youtube video brought his narcissm and ego glaringly into play for those of us who could see his flaws.
Reading all those headlines above, my guess is he was in cahoots already with Obama to ruin Hillary.
Um, Edwards didn’t “drop out” of the Senate to “hang around Iowa campaigning for president for FOUR years before the primary”. I’m not positive, but I believe under North Carolina law, Edwards was caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Edwards’ Senate term expired in January of 2005, two months AFTER the 2004 General Election. Edwards may not have been given the option to run as the Democratic nominee for Vice-President and run for re-election to the Senate (in fact, most states prohibit a candidate’s running for two different elected offices*); he had to choose. He chose to accept Kerry’s offer to be the Democratic Vice-Presidential candidate.
The rationale behind this is that most states don’t want to waste the time in replacing a candidate who might happen to win BOTH races and opt for the higher office.
*Texas is one of the very few exceptions. When Lloyd Bentsen was selected to run as Dukakis’ VP candidate in 1988, he was also allowed to run for re-election to the Senate. While he and Dukakis failed in the Presidential race, he did win re-election and returned to the Senate where he continued serving until early 1993 when Clinton nominated him to be Treasury Secretary. Presumably, if Bentsen became the VP after the 1988 General Election, a special election would have been held or the Governor would appoint someone to serve until the next regular election could be held.
Actually the people of North Carolina did not like Edwards’ work in the Senate and he would have lost if he had run for another term. He did not win NC fo Kerry in the presidential race.
Hillary didn’t need any help destroying herself.
Giggety-giggety-giggety!
She is the only democratis presidential candidate that walked away from this thing with a future.
Absolutely.
Of the three Democratic frontrunners this year, Hillary is the ONLY candidate who will still have a strong political career and can still become President in 2012.
Obama and Edwards, however, are toast.
Please go to this website. http://www.barrysoetoro.com. They know.
Yea!!!! When will everyone else! Go Hillary!
Actually, someone else pointed out to me that she really isn’t destroyed. She’s a pretty resiliant gal who always fights her way back. She definitely is gonna go a lot farther than John Edwards.
Lakey, why are you here? What are you hoping to achieve? Just trying to rattle the cage, you silly republican drone?
I’ll say this for “Lackey”, he certainly picked an appropriate name for himself.
lack·ey
–noun
1. a servile follower; toady.
2. a footman or liveried manservant.
–verb (used with object)
3. to attend as a lackey does.
runningdoglackey,
YOU ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID!!!!!!!!!
What does Giggety mean?
Hey Lap Dog,
Is that supposed to be gettin jiggy with it?
Stop the hate, slobbering one!
Hillary did not destroy herself. True Penn and others miscalculated and felt it would be over on Super Tues, but the perception of Obama’s invincibility emerging from Iowa would not have occurred without Edwards on ballot.
He was the Hillary Hit Man, and Elizabeth was far from kind about Hillary when stumping for a man [Edwards] she knew to be a bum.
The dishonesty involving this relationship with Hunter reeks of unethical behavior way beyond sex.
She formed a 2 bit comppany days before joning Edwards campaign, “to video him and let everyone know how honest he was”. She was paid $114,000 4 or 5 times by a donor named Baron [and others], and lived in a 3 million dollar home. She is also known to be a doper.
The child was claimed as belonging to a campaign staffer, and this story is so full of deceptions and lies we have to wonder if campaign donation dollars paid for Edwards affair? He had major donors in 2006 when he claimed to have ended this “liason”.
I could easily believe many knew about it and covered it up, including Elizabeth Edwards. Why would anyone do this for this loser? Power and payback.
Was he “The Hillary Slayer”? Or does the DNC have no vetting process or common sense and aptitude to select decent candidates? It seems not.
Running Dog,
How’d ya like a puma’s claws at your non-existent brain?
A filthy Obamabot rat like you should hang around the Chicago sewers more often.the ambience looks good on you, trollboy!
Get lost, jerk
Truly I wish John Edwards everything he deserves in life as long as it isn’t good. And I wouldn’t mind a bit if Elizabeth killed him in his sleep.
I would rather see Elizabeth divorce the SOB and take so much money from him, he has to do his own hair.
Now that is the best idea I’ve heard all day.
Whoa, do his own hair? Now that’s getting pretty harsh for this “in love with himself” twit!
I think she should apply hair remover to his head while he sleeps.
Edwards, like the Messiah, thought that he could get away with covering up his past and soon began to believe in his own hype and invincibility. What he did to Hillary was despicable, and I’m glad Hillary didn’t get his endorsement. As my civil engineer father-in-law always said, based on his observations of hiring practices, that first-rate hire first-rate while second-rate hire third-rate. John Edwards, like his co-loser John Kerry, are bottom-rate politicians, which explains their choice for POTUS.
Edwards gave his endorsement to Obama, but not his delegates. Lets go get em. The delegates I mean.
Who are they? Are they the “undecided”?
What isn’t mentioned is that a lot of Edward’s followers have gender bias, and could be a hard sell.
But Hillary is a lot further left than Obozo.
he conceded, so his delegates are free to vote for anyone of their choice.
I do hope that is true. RealClear politics has it that Obama got Edwards 21 delegates. If not for that, and halving all those votes, Clinton would be ahead in the pledged delegate count. And didn’t they tell the superdelegates to vote for the one who had the most pledged delegates… that would be Clinton. And of course she won in the popular vote. I’m with you… let’s go get ‘em! There votes rightfully belong to Clinton.
Sadly, I thought that creep Edwards encouraged his delegates to go over to Obama when he endorsed him.
cough up the delegates or we will reveal that the kid is really his!
Edwards delegates should go Hillary.
Shirley Chisholm’s 150 delegates were counted on the convention floor and she was aptly honored.
Hillary with over 1600 [not counting Edwards] deserves the same respect. Her delegates should be counted.
Thanks Larry for putting all of that together… that narcissistic blow-dry ~ I’d like to kick him in the b@11z for slamming Hillary, as an Obama surrogate!!! What mendacious operatives these are. Nothing is beyond them, truly… nothing.
Hillary called him out on milking his wife’s cancer, and she responded by pretty much calling her an evil bitch. I think that’s how it went. I think they were probably well-matched, the Edwards.
Hope Floats..Please site your source…I personally never remember any such conversation between the to of them.
She is very much too good for him. He doesn’t deserve to have a woman like her and she certainly would be better off without him. She was the only thing that made him even somewhat successful.
Yeah, that and ACORN.
Elizabeth Edwards knew about his charade and went right along. My belief in her is gone, too…
Also, I’ve got a report on ACORN in NM (in trouble AGAIN, this time in NM) going up in about a half an hour….(Monday,8/11)
http://insightanaltyical.wordpress.com
Have a little pity for Elizabeth. She’s dying and got children to worry about. She’s got to try to keep some semblance of their family together because the kids will need that POS John after she’s gone. She’s really between a rock and a hard place. The stress will probably shorten her time left.
I agree.
I feel genuine pity for Elizabeth and her children. They are dealing with ALOT. I’ll pray that God will keep them strong and at peace through this tough time.
yep he’s POS and now he’s got his wish, the world knows the real John Edwards for what he is inside. aawwww, sweet.
Edswards is scum.
grrrrr
(I can’t speak now)
Edwards betrayal goes far beyond this. I also blame the media who now admit they new and covered it up or ignored it. Can any look Elizabeth in the eye with any level of integrity and trust?
By the way, for an affair from 2006 that was over, what was Edwards NOW sneaking into hotel rooms in LA for?
John Edwards gets my vote for Pope.
He likes old women instead of young boys, that’s a step up for the Vatican.
Call him toast when it comes to American politics. He got what he wanted out of two runs, money to retire on.
This was probably a known known in back rooms as well. He didn’t want to run for Senate as an incumbent, he knew something might come up?
So now Hillary is relegated back to the role of first lady: convention schedule is:
Michelle Obama (Mon), then
Hillary Clinton (Tues), then
Bill Clinton (Wed), then veep, then
Barack Obama (Thurs.)
First the wives, then the men.
Bill Clinton is a former POTUS. Where do you think he should be placed in terms of speaking order?
Before Hillary, idjit.
The “new” Democratic Party is sexist. It wants the country to believe otherwise but this primary season has brought the leaderships’ innermost feelings to the surface.
Leftist men want it all from women- women to:
But left leaning men do not want to share the power. Women are considered second class citizens. Obama, his male supporters and Dean have proven this point.
This primary has certain been an education.
and fall in line.
Good one!
and get over it!
Word. You nailed it.
“This primary has certain been an education.”
You better believe it! A true eye-opener.
I don’t see myself going back to the Democratic party ever again.
he’ll be speaking the night after the eventual nominee
Do you really believe that the losing candidate has greater stature than a former U.S. President? If so, then you are truly an idjit - not me.
That’s a really lame argument doc.
What’s lame about it? Our last Democratic President should have a place of honor at the Democratic Convention.
LOL there was no IT to it.
Barack only speaks on Thursday if he is the nominee. Wouldn’t it be something if he didn’t win and then wouldn’t even have a chance to speak.
::: sigh ::: if only wishing made it so…
If wishes were horses then beggars would ride.
That’s true, but
“Hope springs eternal in the human breast.”
- Alexander Pope
THAT would be the cherry on the sundae!!!
OMG, wouldn’t that be hillarious? Watching him fume in his own elitist anger while Hillary speaks TWICE during the convention and he is left out completely after trying to hijack it? LMAO
Why is Michelle Obama even speaking?
Good question.
They are trying to make it look like the ‘wives’ are speaking, not Hillary Clintont potential nominee for president. It demeans Hillary’s role.
Seem to me when Michele Obama speaks, people don’t want to listen.
I say give her four hours!
Well, that’s true.
But, really she should not be allowed to give a speech.
The DNC must be so scared of Hillary overshadowing Obama.
She wears the pants in the family…and the testicles
She will tell the audience how dashing, good looking and intelligent Barack is, and how everyone must work for him from that moment forward.
ANd large pants they are. I wonder if Juno can get “BADONKADONK” on a Care/Size tag?
Yeah, they shoved her in the closet for the remainder of the campaign and gave her a script to rehearse for the convention. That’s the day they let her loose ’cause it doesn’t matter what she says… after she delivers their script.
Hope
I imagine the conversation in the Obamanation house went something like
“Listen, Barry if that b…h Hillary speaks Tuesday I better speak on Monday, cause you ain’t nothing without me.”
Maybe they’ll substitute Tyra Banks like they did for that magazine story about michelle.
because he couldn’t get anyone else to give the speech!!!
Clearly, Tuesday and Wednesday (the apex?) will be the best nights to listen, whereas Monday and Thursday, we can probably go to a movie or something…or just watch regular tv…. or clean out the garage or attic…. or re-grout the bathroom tile, you know, something more fun than listening to racist hate-mongers
Hilarious!
Think I heard that college football will be on TV Thursday night. Which will be more exciting to watch?? Obama/College football = tough decision!
Chiten LOL I will come help you … so funny
but how awesome when thae tables turn and Obama os left in the back in a brick room…
Please please can I be the one to throw away the keys!!
Mr.Murder oo I like that
Edwards — part of the misogynistic gang of thugs.
Let’s not be too hard on him. Bill C suffers from the same indiscretion.
So did JFK.
At least Bill doesn’t have a yucky hairstyle m’kay?
And Bill is not a loser. I can’t stand Edwards including his wig. Never did like him.
he keeps L’orel rich with the hair spray he uses and mirrors his room must be a wall of mirrors ….
LOL he will have a lot of time on his hands now they will be used over time…
What a limp D*** he is now
Ahemm hemmm….
Step aside… coming through… step aside …
I was tossed from the Daily Koolaid for my prescient argument that Mr. Edwards had graduated top of his class, Asshole Cum Loudest from Smarmy U.
The Fake Wing Conservative Far Left Liberal run media won’t cover the real story! They are disgustingly showing their prejudice against Mr. Smarmypants with good hair (part Indian per Eddie “what choodun foh me latelee Edeee?” fame.
But leave it to the media to only focus on his good side. He had a cute baby, I admit. But come on! He has let his hair go to shit! Did you see that picture of him with the child? Elizabeth would never let his hair go that loose or dress him that way before he went out unless she knew he was going to meet up with the Baby-fo-Money (and the chick’s for free) New-Tart of the Hour …. I want my.. I want my.. I want my hour on TeeVee!
::::Baby fo money and the chick’s fo free::::
And you all are going to be reading another “tolYaSo” from me when Obama finally is forced to reveal he is a homsesual and Michele was once Mike “the Groin” Stephens from WWF in the early ’70’s.
(she had an act involving olives, twislers and a toopick - a real head turner)
oh come on, his hair got mussed up after the last romp with hunter. He was at the hotel for 5 hours.
Yeah, but Bill is better at it. He could probably sweet talk a woman to climax without even touching her. Edwards would be too afraid of messing up his hair.
At least he had enough sense not to get anyone pregnant. Edwards needs a surgical procedure, IMHO.
It’s not about who they sleep with, it’s about whether they uphold their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitutition of the United States. JFK and Bill Clinton did abide by their oath of office while the three Bs (Bush, Bush, Barack) have not been such good public servants even if they haven’t been caught in the politicians’ favorite pastime - yet.
Excuse me Ted, but are you trying to make a point? Are you trying to blame Bill Clinton for Edward’s affair the way you blamed Hillary for Bill’s indiscretions?
You are often OT and I wonder if you may have AADD? The point is hypocrisy and manipulation using misogyny as a means to undermine a qualified and dedicated candidate.
Do you believe Edwards was delusional to the extent he believed he could hide this affair when a child was involved or could you believe Andrew Young is actually this child’s father? Bill Clinton’s BJ in the Oval Office seems innocent in comparison to this sordid affair with the attempts to cover up the truth, letting others take the blame, campaign money used to pay the mistress and money funneled through another supporter for the upkeep of the woman involved not to mention the impression he has left of her indiscriminate and promiscuous sleeping around.
Add the high fives all around when they tag teamed Hillary during debates and the lingering questions about how much Obama knew and whether he used John Edwards as his attack dog knowing Edwards was not a real threat to his ambitions.
I usually have a great reserve of empathy for anyone terminally ill with cancer from my experience as caregiver to my mother who died of ovarian cancer. However, I do remember Elizabeth Edwards being particularly hostile to Hillary which would indicate she is lacking in empathy for another woman who went through the public humiliation of having her personal pain used as a weapon against her.
Are you familiar with The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling? Every time I read one of your comments, I am reminded of the snake, Kaa. You slither in to mislead and somehow it always comes back to Hillary or Bill Clinton.
“Let’s not be too hard on him.”
Why the hell not? MANY were hard on Bill. Still are to this day! How many “Lewinski” jokes are still flying around?
Is cheating necessarily misogyny? I thought is was just being a garden variety jerk.
No, it’s not necessarily misogyny.
And why the hell is Mrs. Obama speaking on Monday night? Since when do would-be first ladies get top Prime time spots at the Democratic convention?
WTF???
Maybe she plans to repeat her “Whitey rant” to reinforce Obama’s base?
Maybe she threatened a jihad if she didn’t get to speak?
Nah, it’s just the pure arrogance of both her and her husband.
Its her coming out party and they will dress her like Jackie O ooh aah- It may be something that will turn more people off once everyone listens to her tell us we have broken souls. and she and O will heal them- PUKE!
Liars, haters cheaters hurt me but my soul is fine thank you meeeechelle.
When hubby crowned himself king, she became queen and we all know the royal consort sits on the thrown, too. Wonder if “Democracy is dead; long live the king.” will be the keynote speech.
If only there was a way to ship him to one of his other countries. Couldn’t you imagine the fight if Obama and Odinga ended up being rivals in Kenya!
Or, wonder how “Queen” Michelle would fair as a female in Indonesia….
I simply cannot abide your hateful comments about Michele Obama, my Heroine of all Time.
I do declare! You ladies are sooooo jealous of her, my word, I do think you’re envious of her good looks, her wonderfully Jacqueline hairdos, her Parisian gowns, her strong support of women’s and children’s issues, her too-good-for-words Hubbie the future President of you miserable souls here on this equally miserable site not worth more than a dime, never mind a Quarter!
How dare you speak evil of our First Lady of First Bumps. Just because you’re soooooo clueless and uncool! Bet you you don’t even have Ludacris on your ipod yet! AM I right, you antideluvian McCainites in drag! How uncouth and uncool you all are. Allah help us!
How you sooooo disgust me! To allow yourselves the lapse of judgment to not appreciate a woman of Michelle’s statute, intelligence, compassion for women’s issues, her shining commitment to Feminist Principles, her unadorned love of her inlaws, especially her magnanimous compassion, ney, tolerance for her White Typical Grandma-in-law!
Michele our Belle has a lovely place to visit in Hawaii while the rest of you cavedwelling beasts have to inhabit your Bitter twisted vices overdosing on Religion and sleeping with Guns! In horrible working-class bungalows..ugh!
Don’t you know any Rezkos you can invite to tea and crumpets on Sundays? Of course, you don’t! You wouldn’t recognize a gentleman from a slumlord any way even in the daylight in the Political sewers of chicago, you bitter working class Noquarter rats!
And i absolutely loathe your low-class comments about Mr. Edwards, an icon of family values whose only failing is not being a member of our Uncle Jermemiah’s Trinity Church! (He is not perfect, he’s human!)
Anyway, you bitter gun-clinging religious fanatic racists, I’ve wasted my time with you already. Ta ta, gotta go over to Michele’s and help her dust off her burqa before the Her Maiden speech.
And I’m bringing the Quaran to pray to The great almighty Allah for your sad godless souls!
Alah akbar!
Alah akbar!
AlQaeda loves the DNC
No, Hope, it is not the same, but not mutually exclusive either. With all the reminders, some of them from the Edwards campaign, of the trouble in the Clinton marriage being used against her the two are inclusive.
I said as much in a blog yesterday. John Edwards, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson were put in to sabotage Hillary and Bill. Run the decoys to knock her poll numbers down and her negatives up. Assholes, paid for by Soros and the DNC. Obama is not through with his destruction yet. Take what he wants, promise them anything and then out comes the old “knife in the back, Barack.”
What you suggest really seems like the most reasonable explanation for what happened based on what we know now. If both Edwards and his wife and his entire family knew about this affair in 2006, as Edwards claims, and both Edwards being politically sophisticated and presumably not fools, then they must have had some extremely powerful incentives to forge ahead with the Presidential campaign. I am assuming that it was NOT just ego.
But why, why, why are these Democrats so intent on destroying the best presidential candidate to come along in decades?
Something is going on here behind the scenes that we need to know about. My guess is that the roots of this mystery go back deep into Bill Clinton’s administration and, who knows, maybe the ultimate explanation has the same roots as the impeachment and unending persecuation of the Clintons during the 1990s and beyond.
Part of it is that ultra-liberal Democrats never felt Bill Clinton was a pure liberal. He was too conservative for them. He wasn’t liberal enough. He ‘trangulated’ on the issues. (For instance, the welfare bill.)And frankly, I have never understood this attitude. And I also don’t know what is the difference between triangulation and working with Republicans in a non-partisian manner.
But there is more to this year and the hatred against Hillary that I still don’t understand.
He was also an outsider, a hick from a tiny southern state.
Remember, he wasn’t supposed to win. The big Democratic establishment guys didn’t run that year because GHW Bush’s poll numbers were well into the 90s during the first Gulf War. Bill Clinton’s rise was a shock to the party. Half the party still thinks he’s a Bubba, even through he’s always been the smartest man in the room.
Two of Clinton’s biggest obstructionist (and powerful senate Chairs) when he arrived in D.C. were Senator Boren of Oklahoma and Senator Nunn of Georga - both Dems. Not exactly liberals.
Oh, BOREN! I wrote about how he practically single-handedly derailed the Clinton-Gore energy plan in 1993.
It’s in the archives at http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com in all its gory detail…
It will come out in time Obama knew about JE fling… he paid him to do his dirty work and Obama is probably the one paying the girlfriend off and putting her in million dollar homes in CA!
You guys need to expand your thoughts out about two or three degrees of Kevin away from Obama.
This is not about Obama. He is being used. Okay he’s a tool.
This is not about Pelostit either. She’s a garden variety tomato. She is ripe for the pickin’. Obama is a backstabber who will squash her for not being able to Ketch-up.
I just can’t take any of this seriously. Is it just me?
As a matter of fact, if you closed your eyes to his party affiliation, Clinton was a damned good Republican president for three years, never giving anyone ANYTHING when they whined.
Except for the Rise of the Evil Newt in 1995, it wasn’t a bad little First Term.
He even proved that, no matter HOW hard they RayGunz and George Hideous Wanker Bush) worked to fuck it up for 12 years, the underpinnings of the Economy were robust and would respond positively to appropriate fiscal policy.
The powers that be could not control Bill Clinton. They have even less of a chance of controlling Hillary Clinton. They don’t want her in there because they would not be able to weild power and would be under her control instead of the other way around. Just the thought of it scares them to death.
She should run third party, I think she would have a good chance of not only getting a plurality, but a majority over both the other candidates.
Well I kind of agree.
But I think it was a war for power within the party.
John Murtha, who courageously stood up against everyone against the Iraq War — a master stroke by Rove I”m sure the pupperbastard.
There was a power struggle and at the end of it, Pelostit ended up getting the Speakership.
And the poop has not stopped flushing out of Washington since. They can’t get anything done and they have split the party to gain or keep their power.
Another day that should have been in Tara.
I hope Edwards scrapped his career for more than a jet ski. I would’ve moved to another country before I’d run for President and risk that story coming out.
I think there could be some truth to what you’re saying, ALforHill, about the likes of Edwards as stalking horses for HRC. If they weren’t, of themselves, then at least being used as such by figures like Rove and those opposed to the Clintons in the DNC and the Dem Party.
Today was the first day I felt as though — barring Hillary’s being his VP choice — Obama cannot win the election. Not that I personally don’t want him to win, but that he will have no actual shot at winning.
Part of this is based on what Larry Johnson wrote last night. Part of it is based on Rasmussen’s polling. There are other factors as well that I’m not going to get into right now.
After months of concern and angst, I finally feel as though the USA is going to avoid the Barry Soetoro asteroid from striking it. There’s still plenty to be done, don’t get me wrong, but signs are strongly pointing to a Soetoro loss in November if he is nominated.
Thank goodness.
It’s looking as if he won’t even be getting the nomination, if everything falls into place as it should. The Clintons either have a deal wtih the devil or are favored by God, but they always come out smelling like a rose.
Two people with THAT much intelligence and talent between them make a very formidable couple. Chelsea is finding her own sea legs and could be a contender a few years down the road. If Hillary is elected, Chelsea will have a role in the White House of some sort so she can be groomed to carry on the family legacy.
More power to her! The Clinton years were the most prosperous years of our Democracy and getting another chance (maybe two more) is just way too good to overlook or to turn down.
I hope Hillary is nominated, Chiten. We’ll just keep working to make that happen and to defeat Obama.
“I said as much in a blog yesterday. John Edwards, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson were put in to sabotage Hillary and Bill.”
I believe you’re right.
There’s a clip on YouTube from CNN of Barack Obama’s news conference I think the night that he won the U.S. Illinois Senate seat in 2004. He was asked by a reporter if he would run for President in 2008, and he stated that he wouldn’t be ready to run so soon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM
I strongly believe he was offered ALOT by many Clinton haters with deep pockets to change his mind.
Look as Bill Clinton says politics is a contact sports. There are elbows to the ribs, knees to the groan and a forearm in the back. That is american politics.
So far Obama has avoided contact. He is instead to throw the ball in the middle and let the big men take the elbows and forearms while he lobs 3 pts from the NBA line. Well I woud imagine come September, the republicans are going to extend their defense out to three point line and hammer Mr. Obama. No more lobs untouched.
PUMA
I want to see Obama get nailed by a safety on a blindside blitz, say someone like Rodney Harrison.
I always liked Darrell Green, myself.
But he was a cornerback.
My nephew is a 260 lb. linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles - so, naturally I’d like to keep the honor of blindsiding the fraud in the family!
I yield to your recommendation.
Do you think your nephew could make it to Invesco in a few weeks?
I’d rather see Brian Urlacher sack him for a twenty yard loss.
and BO loses the ball and Hillary takes it in for touchdown.
Oh, YES!!!!! I love that idea!
Karmic retribution should require that each of these slams turn into a positive for Hillary now. We’re lucky he never got into the White House (along with Dean and Kerry).
No proof but I wonder if Edwards was going to withdraw in 2006 after he told Elizabeth. Obama black-mails him to run and steal roughly 10% of the white vote which could have been a game changer in Iowa.
You may be right.
I always thought Biden and Dodd ran just to pile on Hillary.
And Kucinich’s Kult certainly did their part bashing Hillary and screaming about the DLC as if it were aligned with Hitler! and then Mr. Impeachment endorsed Oblahma - the only Dem to declare Bush and Cheney have not committed impeachable offenses!
Joe MBNA Biden and Chris Countrywide Dodd?
No really knows why they ran….
I liked Kucinich. I knew he didn’t stand a chance, but you have to have some kind of respect for a man of his ….stature…. to be able to get a wife like that!!!
He HAS to be hung like a horse!
She likes the way he goes up on her.
Give me a BREAK. In your obviously pathetic DREAMS. If KOOK didn’t have power he wouldn’t have stature and that horse of a child bride wouldn’t have given him the time of day.
Google the BREATHARIANS and then tell me this new age GANGLY REDHEAD BRIT moron had any thoughts beyond latching onto the freak leprechaun other than as a vehicle for MINDLESS PUBLICITY.
If Kook were HUNG he’d not have the ISSUES he obviously has and wouldn’t be a regular tin horn incumbent who regularly refuses to debate female challengers and is on his third marriage to a NITWIT BREATHARIAN child bride.
Do your freakin’ research or stop running off your uninformed mouth.
THANK YOU, Josey!!!
To this day the Kook Kult think the shrimp was some kind of hero instead of the anguished male equivalent of Obama, a closet thug.
As if the three wives and child bride weren’t enough of a clue. Anyone who did any RESEARCH would note the similarities of a faux cult figure scamming the antiwar morons.
I say morons because they champion Kook, Uhhhhbama, Ron Paul and Ch8uck Hagel without knowing a DAMN thing about those FRAUDS.
Funny how small a world it is, and Edwards quiting after SC, wonder why now, could it be due to the debates and his attacks on Barfy over his non-votes, thus Axelrod pulled the plug on Edwards?
Was Edwards, like Doyle an Axelrod plant to steer the elections for Barfy?
Let’s see…didn’t Joe Trippi have something to do with Edwards’ campaign?
Didn’t Joe Trippi have some connection to Howard Dean in 2004?
Isn’t Howard Dean the one who was pushing so hard to oust HRC from the race earlier this year?
Connect the dots!
Sadly, too many people don’t KNOW HOW to connect the dots to see the whole picture. They have to have black and white proof and pooh pooh the HINTS/dots.
Not everyone’s brain is wired the same. And education and teachers of the past were better at getting students to figure some things out for themselves hence a lot of the ageism issues we’ve heard throughout this primary.
BREAKING NEWS: I have been to TexasDarlin website, it appears to be blocked and require username and password which I have never had one (no registration required). I saw her last message saying that she has been threatened by Jason Cannon, the guy who has tried to challenge with TechDude for Obama BC’s forgery. Anyone has any idea of what is going on?
Me too! I even joined Wordpress, got a name and password but still can’t get in. Came here to see whether there was any info.
Same here. I got a name and password and still can’t get in. TexasDarlin what is going on? Please let us know. Take care. P.S. I was on her site earlier today and she posted something about attacks against her and she would not be intimidated (can’t really recall the exact words, so I’ll let her explain).
It happened to me a well! This happened to Larry Sinclairs blog- he had to make a new one. This is the art of BArky and his cult again! Fox did a story on this before I think I will let them know again! Flood fox with news PUMA!
I guess that tells you which foot the corns are on, doesn’t it? They get special care from bots. It was Joseph Cannon who was threatening to “out” her on his website. There was another stalker on a main thread, “Dean.”
same happened to me
wasn’t there some group that tried to burn books? Oh, yeah, I remember . . . http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?ModuleId=10005852
Thank goodness others experienced the same thing! I couldn’t figure what the heck happened. I hope someone keeps us informed and that she is okay.
You can find in Rocky Mountain News, on political blog!!!
Obama has double citizenship!!!
Me too, had the same problem. Tried to register but no email back.
I surprised it took Obama’s thugs this long to attack her website. They sure are a bunch of cowardly cretins; fighting fair is definitely an alien concept to them.
Robots.txt Query Exclusion.
That is from the Wayback Machine. I blocked and Google’s cache and people should try different search engines to see what they can save.
What does this mean? Did she block her own site?
Add me to the crowd who can’t get in, either…
I’ve emailed TD to see what’s going on. I’ll let you know if I hear back from her. Hopefully, she’ll drop by No Quarter to let everyone know what’s going on.
Try this link:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/breaking-barry-soetoros-birth-certificate-in-republican-hands/
She has some updates up. There is confirmation of the BC, it is, indeed, in the name BARRY SOETORO!!!
If you still can’t get in, let me know, I’ll copy and past her stuff to my blog for you….
piss on it, I’ll go ahead and link her stories to my blog, give me 20 minutes and you can check
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com
OK, I just posted direct links to her most recent four posts, they should take you right to her page. If not, let me know and I’ll cut and paste it in an email or, with her permission, cross post it on my blog.
She was probably getting heavy site traffice because I was able to get in without any difficulty.
(I don’t want to take traffic from her, it’s her work, so I just gave the links. If she gets overloaded, I will gladly lend my blog as an alternate site for her posts as I’m pretty sure Larry would as well)
Once again, I agree with Larry. As a practising Catholic, I believe that the good Lord has big plans for Hillary. We just have to be patient and walk with her in her life journey - and wait for 2012. As for John Edwards and Barack Obama, their idolatrous worship of their egos will spell their ruin (or in the case of Edwards - has - past tense or at most, present progressive tense).
I’m not a Catholic (you guys get up and down too much during services), but I hope you are completely right.
I’m not a Catholic but I am a Christian, and I think God may have plans for Hillary for 2008. I’ve seen God do things that were seemingly impossible, so, we’ll see.
I agree Obama will be ruined by his own self-idolatry.
I’m neither Catholic nor Christian, but hope that Hillary will become the next President of the U.S.
Maybe Edwards was used by bo’s campaign to weaken
HRC. A third party with similiar appeal to middle class blue collars takes her votes away from her until bo’s delegate count is up and then drops out.
Dare I say a little Chi town blackmail? Bo and axel knew about the affair, kept it quiet and used Edwards until it blew up. Edwards “endorsement” was used to upstage Hill’s WVa victory and take the emphasis off of bo’s losses. Evil deeds from them all.
Initially Edwards ran as a populist and pro-working class while Hillary ran a pro-corporate/centrist campaign that didn’t even bother to address the issues Edwards was.
And Hillary and her supporters NEVER understood the intense dislike of the Clintons that many Americans have, also in the Democratic party.
Then add in her stupid campaign manager Penn and his association with Blackwater and her inability for most of the campaign to address working class issues and you have another Gerraldine Ferraro.
Americans don’t hate the Clintons, the press and the Dems do. Oh, and the Republicans. Big difference.
Yeah, Hillary didn’t get the working class vote.
*snort*
Penn knew she would be attacked as being weak on national security like all Dems and especially as a woman, so he had her run as tough and inevitable. It didn’t pay off. Voters liked her as herself the more they got to know her throughout the primaries. She had to run as a pro-corporate centrist, if she was going to talk in the GE about how strong she was on the economy. Even though as a candidate, she had high name recognition going for her, her political record was not well-known to most Americans. Do you think Americans want to hear how much you hate the corporations at the same time you’re promising to bring jobs back?
Axelrod was Edwards Campaign director/Manager in 2004……..He had to know from the get go.
The whole works are a bunch of two-faced, back-stabbing bastards. You know full well that everybody knew about his little side order. It wasn’t until it went mainstream that he is suddenly a pariah. That is not to say that I will ever forgiven him for what he did to Hillary. It was okay but his mistress is not? Seems soooo DNC-ish. Don’t cha think?
Poor Elizabeth. What a sick little puppy she married.To think that he ganged up with Obama to bring down Hillary while hiding this affair. You could tell that Elisabeth was for Hillary’s health plan but was hushed into obedience. This is misogyny’s ugly face,what a coward. Edwards let your wife say what she really thinks and stop controling her. Again your a coward!
If this ends up being posted twice, I apologize. I thought it was salient that EDWARDS’ comments about Bill Clinton get a fresh airing, seeing as he was so self-righteous about it a decade or so back.
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/john_edwards_in_1999
Here is Edwards on Clinton on Feb. 12, 1999:
I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.
Later, Edwards debated whether Clinton intended to obstruct justice when he talked with a White House employee:
We have a man who has just been confronted with this problem, who is political by nature. And do we really believe that the first thing he thought about is, “I’m going to go protect myself legally’”? I suspect the first thing he thought about is “I’m going to protect myself politically.” He was worried about his family finding out. He was worried about the rest of the staff finding out. He was worried about the press finding out.
Now that
Was hilarious.
Isn’t it? In a sick way….
Makes me think of bad preachers who are often self-righteous hypocrits.
I also saw a clip of him from Nov. 2007. The interviewer asked him if infidelity was fair to consider for a candidate. Very seriously, he replied: “Absolutely, because it tells you about a person’s character. If they cannot be trusted to keep a vow to their partner, then they cannot be trusted by the American people.” This was obviously AFTER his affair!
Like Obama, it’s not weakness per se, it is all about the HYPOCRISY!
Interesting how Edwards claimed to know exactly what Bill Clinton was thinking when he got caught. Maybe Edwards had already been down that road himself. It’s hard to believe this was Edward’s very first extramarital affair, or probably just the first time he was caught.
Astute comment.
IS TD’s site password protected now? does anyone know how to get approved if it is?
I’ve just joined Wordpress to get password, but it doesn’t work.
TD wouldn’t have suddenly done this without warning and telling readers how to register….probably a hack job
I think TD has struck a nerve!
It’s up and working
I had forgotten how ugly Edwards was in this primary. Thanks for this reprise of his ugliness. It certainly did not pay off for him but it paid well for Obama. Karma for John. Why do you think this whole story hit now? Makes it clear he is not going to be VP or have any role at the convention. Did Obama want to kill him off and got the msm to go with this story that they all knew? Anglachel is right: this is about male privilege and Elizabeth is not clean on this because she knew and she supported him in running a campaign they both knew was fatally flawed. And what about Joe Trippi in this? Wasn’t Axelrod at one time with Edwards? I am beginning to think that Democrats are just plain awful. Who is Obama going to have as a VP? Richardson—doesn’t he have issues with sexual harassment of women? Who is left? John Kerry? Claire McCaskill? No he needs someone for the male, white voter. Maybe he will just run by himself. Do you have to have a VP?
Doesn’t Claire have some drug issues in her past?
How about Barry Soetero for VP. Perhaps BO, if elected, will walk around with a ventriloquist dummy as VP. Do you think the Ozombies would notice?
John Edwards is a dirty rat. He’s slippery and slick and he is truly narcissistic. Such a pretty boy that he thinks he is; cheating on his wife suffering with cancer, a death sentence. But he rationalizes poking his ho on the side b/c his wife was in remission? Come on, what a class-A jerkoff. Obama can have his pretty boy, they deserve each other. I want nothing to do with these two. And by the way, why did he go see his mistress without discussing with his wife beforehand? It doesn’t add up! I hated him on Niteline; such a prick that one!
Two things were truly despicable here. He used campaign funds from duped supporters to pay his whore. He announced that he didn’t love this woman (who was blackmailing him.)
THIS SEEMS THAT OBAMABOTS ARE VERY SCARED THAT ALL INFORMATION ON HER SITE WILL BE SPREAD VERY QUICKLY AROUND AMERICA!
How long has the information been on her site?
Texas Darlin’s site has just been attacked.
I realize that I may get blased to off the NQ website for this, but I was initially an Edwards supporter-even going to campaign for him in another state. I chose Edwards because I think he had a concern for the poor that the other candidates didn’t share. I think that despite his unethical and stupid choice to have have an affair, he’s a bright man with a a lot of good ideas about how government should work. I was quite upset that he endorsed Obama (which I still think was politically motivated by strong arming by the Obama campaign). I wish that he had stayed entirely neutral. Had Edwards not been in the race, I don’t know that that I would have supported Clinton although I think she is a a very bright woman with some excellent ideas. I might have supported Biden. I’m guessing people need to place blame on Edwards for Clinton not being the nominee, but I can’t go there. I did not suport any other candidate after Edwards withdrew until recently I supported Nader. I can’t vote for either McCain or Obama.
That being said I am a PUMA because I think Hillary was treated badly by the media; I think the DNC are a bunch of crooks, caucuses are corrupt, MI and Florida were handled undemocratically and Obama is a lying, manipulative, unethical product of the Chicago political machine. I would vote for Clinton should she end up as the nominee, but sadly
I don’t think it will happen. Too many people seem to dislike Clinton and their attitudes are often misogynistic and irrational to an extreme.
I would be glad if we could get off berating Edwards and concentrate on getting Hillary on the the ballot. I’d like to think that as a progressive Democrat I’d be welcome here and I have enjoyed many of the articles, have learned a lot and enjoy posting.
Let me add that I am a Democrat in exile. I have voted Democratic since Carter ran the second time and am officially still one mostly because I haven’t yet registed “no choice”.
We aren’t obamamaniacs, we don’t blast people for their choices if their choices are reasonable at the time they made them.
The only ones that get blasted are the obamatrolls who drank the kool-aid and refuse to see what is right before their own eyes.
I doubt that you will get blasted from NQ for supporting Edwards. I was never a big fan but to each their own. It seems as if a lot of people who were thought to be “good men” are showing their true colors. What a shame. However I do need to add that I can forgive Edwards for his adultry, but to cheat on his sick wife, while claiming to be the moral candidate is pretty low.
I agree that cheating on his wife was really bad-as I said-but I don’t think Edwards was a plant by the DNC to siphon votes from Hillary-as several people suggested. I think he genuinely decided that he wanted to run because he thought he’d be a good President and because of ego, but I think all politicians have a lot of ego.
But the more I see of Obama, the more I fear for my country should he become President. Too bad most Americans are very uninformed voters and don’t vote on anything butsoundbyte ads.. I guess that should Obama become the nominee the election will depend on who has the better ads and who can cheat the most. :^(
Whats so amusing you have all the Hillary supporters saying how strong and popular Hilldog was, yet they now claim it was that horrible John Edwards who couldn’t win a single state that destroyed her campaign.
Its pathetic and desperate.
What the Hill worshipers don’t get is that all politicos are frauds and hypocrites to some extent. This is why most Americans are sick of politics and don’t vote.
This doubly applies to the Clintons when you see their negatives.
I know a woman from Florida who tells me Hillary will never win because of her “negatives.” I had no idea what she meant until I read “Hillary’s negatives” were a Republican talking point w/o actually identifying any negatives [unless one was her "terrible lie" re: machine gun fire].
It turns out he ran with this scandal in the offing, and that was an incredibly stupid mistake. It turns out he didn’t care about the poor, if he would take people’s money and pay his baby mama off.
I don’t believe people here blast others with no reason. I, too, was an early Edwards supporter and went to NH to campaign for him (from Mass). I decided on him from observations I made suring the 2004 campaign.
But then I watched the NH debate with my son and was HORRIFIED at how Edwards and Obama ganged up on Hillary. I thought that was a huge mistake on Obama’s part…little did I know it might’ve been intentional.
Then, when I went to NH, I was further mystified and horrified. Nothing I saw on the ground, door to door, justified either the Edwards camp or the MSM conclusions. The people there, especially the women, simply loved Hillary and were so excited for her. Everyone who was for the RP cult or Obama cult were imported. The people on the street and in the homes who were from NH were for Hillary.
Even at my hotel, I was shocked at the depth of the Hillary support.
One young woman and her partner came from California to help Hillary! Another woman…a black woman in her 90’s from Harlem, had her son bring her up to meet and help Hillary.
My eyes were opened.
Zee, I just read your post….thanks!
My eyes were opened, too! I knew N.H.results were not accurately predicted by the pundits. they were so off base…because of what you stated you saw with your own eyes!
Ah….or, sorry, I meant uh uh uh uh HILLARY!
We need you, girl!
Hillary ‘12
I enjoyed reading your post FENELOP SPOKE!….well and reasonably spoken! Thanks for the insights you shared with us!
Go Pumas-you’re wonderful….even you roarrrrrrr
Love ya!
Elizabeth can have him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q
I never liked JE, never trusted him.. I love elizabeth edwards. There is a special place in Hell for people like JE. Cheating on his wife, who is battling cancer.
I am more and more convinced this “democratic” party is split and will not recover in the fall. Mccain will win, and the repubs will gain some seats.
Only the morons at the DNC could have taken a sure thing and given the white house back to the repubs..
This whole thing was set in motion by the repubs. And the DNC are clueless that they have been played by the repubs. Someone mentioned in another post, that Rove on CBS’s show looked very calm and confident, I can believe it. The repubs picked the one guys I can vote and get behind, and the dems, with that radical fraud, will have picked the most crooked, inexperienced, ignorant, radical moron!
Mccain ‘08
hillary ‘12
agreed, and I’ll add, Bill Clinton is one the the few elected Democrats who understand what was going on. Hard to think of a more effective politician given the trash he had to endure from both the left and right.
Just another shitknocker peckerwood with a slick line of crap and an expensive coif.
Courthouses, Buick dealerships, hospitals and stahouses across the southeast are fill of assholes like him.
When push comes to shove, it’s always Mr. Slick who absconds with the Jaycees’ fireworks money.
Just because he fooled a bunch of you Yankees doesn’t mean a BUNCH of good old boys didn’t have his number when he ran with Ichabod Crane in 2004.
If Larry or Susan are here could you check out TexasDarlin’s site or find out what is going on. She must have had some really good information to pass on. They must have hit a damn good nerve in the Obama campaign. Things must not be going so well in Hoolaland. They got their marching orders from the ONE and shut T.D. down.
Maybe she just forgot to pay her electric bill?
She stated in the comments that Joseph Cannon threatened to identify her real name in his site, which would allow the Messiah’s Brownshirts to target her more easily.
Whoa. Please say it aint so.
The last article she had posted summarized the key points of why the Indonesian connection and the BC showing the Messiah’s name as Barry Soetero plus his possible use of an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981 is so important to the issue of dual citizenship.
I think that the Obama people know some of this — or something along these lines — to be true, but they are hoping to deal with it after the convention and hoping Barry’s nominated.
As Larry Johnson said last night, the GOP has the goods. But they don’t want to spill the beans until after Barry is nominated.
Texas Darlin is connecting the dots not, when Hillary can be nominated, and that is sending ‘bot nation into convulsions.
You can be sure of this: Texas Darlin will get the story out, both on her own site, here at NQ and many other spots.
The genie isn’t going back into the bottle here. The word is out, and the Dem Party is warned that they are walking into a trap by nominating this man.
It’s up and running
IMPORTANT!
I just read this at riverdaughter. HRC told fundraisers in the hamptons that it’s over, Waffles won fair and square. WTF!!!!!!!!!
Anyone else hear about this?
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angry artist, on August 10th, 2008 at 6:49 pm Said:
I just spoke with my cousin who attended a Hillary fundraiser (to settle her debt) here in east hampton. I am glad I didn’t cough up the $250 minimum needed to attend. Most people left angry.
My cousin’s description….There were about 100 people there. After waiting 90 minutes in the heat with no chairs,, Hillary arrived and spoke for about 4 minutes. she said its over…he won fair and square yada, yada, yada. People asked all the questions we would have asked…..the PUMAs were raised….the convention was raised…..a third party. there was almost no applause when she said we should all support Obama. People actually shouted NO when she said it was fair and square.
At the end, Hillary said she would like to speak briefly with everyone and went off to the side and my cousin said that most…probably 70 out of 100 people turned and left.
My cousin also said that during the 90 minutes while they waited, most people said they would not vote Obama…they would either stay home or vote McCain.
riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/denver-or-bust/#comment-91560
Newsflash!
For me, as much as I respect and look up to Hillary, it STOPPED being about Hillary, and started being about STOPPING barackula the moment the RBC ruled everything in his favor.
I do not care what Hillary is forced to do politically; My goal is to stop obama.
screw obama and his enablers!
….and I thought it was all about getting Hillary elected. Now it’s all about revenge. Sort of petty, don’t you think?
Doctor Quack, I think you need to be disimpacted, because you’re full of shit.
Thanks Joe! I appreciate your efforts in sharing that with me. But I think you ought to devote your time on that TexasLittleDebbie conspiracy thing, instead of worrying about poor little me. But, please, make sure you have your aluminum foil hat on before you go whizzing through cyber-space.
Unlike you, I do have experience working in an emergency room and disimpacting constipated little old ladies brought in from nursing homes. It’s a dirty job, but someone has to do it, and my diagnosis is that your shit has reached the top of your cranium, so I’m going to have to use my whole arm to clean you out. Now bend over!
Please don’t worry about me. Have they found TexasLittleDebbie yet? I hope those nasty “Obamotrons” haven’t swooped her up in their spaceship and probed her with their nasty tire gauges!!! To be on the safe side better keep that aluminum hat on!!! You may be next!!!
Oh I worry a lot about you, after all, too much shit in the brains is bad for your health, darling.
OMG, you believe in alien space ships.
“Grant me the serenity to ignore the Obama trolls (for they know not what they are saying or doing), the courage to debate with honest opponents, and the wisdom to know the difference.”Read this somewhere and want to pass it on.
DoctorWrong–It’s about taking this country back from the fascist elements that have been at play on the national scene since 2000. Obama is another GWB in waiting, but the Ozombies are so caught up in their new religion that they can’t see the forest for the trees–or fascii, as it were.
This is correct, destardi.
It’s not about Hillary, who is playing the good soldier.
It is about justice, about defeating sexism and about the placing of country over a poisoned and corrupt party.
NObama. Not now, not ever. Same goes for Coward Dean and Nancy Badjokesi.
No more Katrina Tears, or South Carolina memos. No more sexism, and fixed caucuses.
No more Chicago Politics and corruption.
I love Hillary, but this is way beyond being solely about her now. This is about the future of the Party, and the country.
Now is the time to unify against Obama and his coupist enablers.
Thank you Paul, I totally agree.
Right on. I’m not sure when it changed, but it hasn’t been “just” about Hillary for some time.
Stop Barack!
in a way that is encouraging.. …even Hillary cannot fix this mess that stupid DNC has put itself in… this whole mess needs to play itself out.. mccain WILL win.. that’s the time to CLEAN house.. starting with that radical fraud, mao dean, botox pelosi, morons kerry and kennedy and so many countless others..
Say hello to President mccain for 2008
and president Hillary clinton in 2012.
BECAUSE THIS YEAR WE WILL WITNESS THE BIGGESTING IMPLOSION OF A CANDIDATE in that radical ignortant fraud!
and the repubs will act swift and hard ! I for one will be rooting them ON!
McCain ‘08, Hillary ‘12.
She said the same thing at the fundraiser when she was videotaped. Doesn’t mean a thing.
I knew this would happen. Hillary does not understand that she is the one who really has a lasting, serious, movement, not Obama. I knew she would not get this even though I wrote her these words and sent her a debt reduction donation. She still does not understand that even though the Republicans crossed over to vote for Obama, the Clinton haters and far left-winged democrats voted for him, she still got the majority of the “true democratic vote”. At the convention, if the superdelegates vote as the people in their states voted and the MI and FL fiasco are reversed she wins. If she caves in to Obama at this point she will lose the respect of her supporters, forever because we thought we had a fighter.
Lyin, scum suckin, sack of s**t….
Hillary?!
No, thta would be YOU.
No, that would be YOU.
Are you talking to me or Andy? (btw, if it’s Andy then I agree!)
who’s comment was Andy replying too?
There is another Andy above Andy. I thought this Andy may be refering to the other Andy since that Andy (just between you and me) seems to fit ’sas’s description.
but who was andy responding to?
(LOL you’d think a doc wouldn’t be so scatter brained when asked that question )
Which Andy? The first one or the second one?
I think it would be hilarious if you made the distinction.
Before The One was The One, Silky Pony was The One, for the true believers.
Hate to sound morbid but, the real turn coats are dropping like flys. Kennedy turned against the will of his own state and endorsed Obama. Edwards waited for the perfect time, to take the lime light away from Hillary,to endorse Obama. If I were Richardson or Kerry, I’d be a wee bit concerned. And lets not forget the worst one of all, the one that white women supported, made famous and rich, Oprah. I am a firm believer of karma.
Karma has been coming home to roost for a lot of Obama surrogates and media suck ups — have you noticed? People can run down the list for themselves. I won’t do it here.
Someone I know used to say “lies have short legs.” All those liars who endorsed the fraud are starting to get theirs — some in ways more horrible than we could have anticipated. While I would never wish that on anyone it is almost eerie to think about.
TexasDarlin’s site stopped just like they did to Larry Sinclair’s site all the time. When you get close to the truth they do everything in their power to try to shut you up!!! The Obama Thugs!!!
Doesn’t that show America what is wrong with this big picture. You should be so scared America if Obama gets in.
ahhhh, yes, the truth?!? now that is a scary thing. especially today.
very odd day…indeed…in the good ole blogosphere.
It’s back. Probably too much traffic or something
Joe thought it might have been due to the “Obamotrons”. I’m glad she’s safe and sound.
You realize we’re talking about a web site right? Please say you do.
Boy I could not agree more. I was never an Edwards fan (I am not much on populism), but after his “performance” against Cheney in the 04 debates, I was particularly incensed. Why he didn’t nail Cheney when he specifically said something that was not true, left me thinking that there was more to the tale than met the eye.
After Hillary got nailed by some feminists for staying with Bill, I would like to ask them what they think now. Obviously Elizabeth knew about it before he decided to run so that kind of makes her a liar too.
That’s what I’ve been wondering too. All these anti-HRC people are constantly berating Hillary for staying with Bill saying she hungers for power, wants to ride in on his coattails so she couldn’t leave him. Seems to be some double-standards here…always where Hillary is concerned.
One of the most ironic things is, liberals are proud to announce that the lowest divorce rates are in liberal Massachusetts and the highest are in the southern red states…but Hillary is anti-feminest for working it out with her husband…perhaps she should’ve acted like a red neck conservative and dumped Bill.
Hillary doesn’t do the feather boa exit. That’s more of a fringe way out.
WC, I’m still pissed at left wing blogs that clobber Hillary at every turn for Bill’s trist but actually ban posters for even metioning Edwards because they feel bad for Elizabeth. The hypocricy makes me want to puke.
an assault on the forth amendment, an assault on the first amendment, hypocrisy masked as piety, the fringe is rapidly pushing this country to a very bad place. My guess is their extreme emotional makeup prevents them from knowing they are and they will be ill prepared to deal with it when it comes.
Comment by basil | 2008-08-10 19:02:28
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If you continue to read the comments over at river daughter, you will clearly see that Angry Artist is a BHO supporter who is full of shit. Dont spread the lies here.
thank u
Not trying to spread lies!
The post was pasted at 44, a blog I visit regularly, and I checked RD to see for myself.
I had no idea angry artist was a BO supporter but if that’s true, thanks for the heads up.
I will post YOUR comment for others, like myself, who were VERY concerned it was true.
I would have sympathy for Elizabeth if, without revealing her husband’s private sins, she had abstained from supporting the lying bastard for the presidency or any other office.
Anyone remember that “plant” story which Edwards exploited to the maximum against Hillary to the extent of setting up the website mocking her ? Or the Philly debate last Oct when he launched the most ugly,personal attacks showing visible disdain and contempt for her ? Like how he savaged her on that IRG vote saying that he had “heard” she was in the GE mode and why was she not being in the “truth telling” mode ?!! F’ing hypocrite.. makes me mad when I think about those days especially how he did the max to help Obama against her in Iowa.
Chicagoans Against Obama have uncovered another example of his ‘good judgment’. Detroit Mayor, Kwame Kilpatrick, whom Obama endorsed in 2007, spent the night in jail last Thursday. The judge revoked his bond and suspended all travel.
The hits just keep on coming.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/09/john-edwards-false-assert_n_117925.html
Sam Stein strips Edwards bare in this Huff Post article. Stein thinks Edwards may have been paying Hunter out of contributed funds for a project that was merely a cover for his affair.
Here is a quote from Stein’s piece.
For that kind of money, I’d have demanded a better quality of Goods; particularly one who understood Contraception.
Lawyers generally don’t have, “affairs.” They just knock off some Strange.
Had an interesting bit of fluff pull that crap on me in 1985, thinking that, because my family had a little money and were all Pillars of Rectitude the checkbook would magically open up.
I told her to, “F*****g Sue Me.”
She got her mouth a little sideways in a couple of public places in a small town, so I sued HER.
That cut THAT shit right out.
I got a $150K judgment, which I can wipe myself with (she took Bankruptcy) but, after I made the DNA test semi-public, she found the need for a Husband who, “SURPRISE!” was actually Little Mongo’s sire.
When last seen, they were living in blissful, screaming, yelling, cops-know-the-address White Trash Nirvana in Tornado Magnet Trailer Park.
And, every year on my birthday, I renew that judgment so that the whore can’t borrow bus fare.
Here’s my question, why do you guys fall for trashy women like that but expect your wives to be pure as the driven snow?
The trashy wives don’t stay wives for long. If you want a marriage, a wife who is pure as the driven snow generally work out better.
Men are not always so clear-sighted, either. Didn’t Elizabeth get cancer from fertility drugs, because John wanted a “new family”? They lost their son. She couldn’t have more children. Then here comes the “documentary filmmaker” who thinks he can really win, and he’s the most fascinating man she’s ever met, and she loves him for him. Maybe she was telling him she was open to a family, was so discreet and trustworthy, could wait till Elizabeth died and would hold his hand through it. Maybe John Edwards was that dumb.
Hunter is also not working and living in a 2 or 3 million dollar home that SOMEBODY got for her.
SOMEONE has to be pretty wealthy to pay that kind of HUSH MONEY so I doubt its Edwards campaign aide’s child.
Elizabeth Edwards is just as dirty in this as her fruadulent excuse for a husband.
John,
Before you go attacking Elizabeth, I think it fair to take into consideration her situation. We don’t know every detail about her illness and when Edwards told her about his affair and what exactly he told her at the time. Edwards has proven to be a shameless lier and I’d bet he’s not been totally forthcoming with Elizabeth. After all, he said the affair was short-term and ended in 2006, but he was caught a couple of weeks ago with the woman at that hotel. Do you think he told Elizabeth that he was going there to meet her to convince her, as he said in the interview, to remain quiet about the affair?
Then you add to this tragic situation the fact that she’s dying and has two young children she must think about and who will need their father greatly when she is gone, I have to ask how can you find fault with this, based on what you know?
From what I’ve seen of Elizabeth Edwards, I respect her and believe she would put the best interests of her children ahead of her own and probably has been supportive of Edwards because she doesn’t want her children to hate him, because he’s going to be their primary care giver when she’s gone.
No matter what the circumstances, why is it that men always find a way to put some kind of blame on the wife? Even Edwards, himself, claimed that he told Elizabeth not to appear with him in that ABC interview because he needed to face this alone and take full responsibility for his actions and that she had done nothing wrong. That was the only unselfish thing Edwards has done for Elizabeth in this whole sordid affair.
Elizabeth does not deserve to be tainted because of her husband’s actions.
Don’t forget why she’s dying of cancer. She took those monstrous fertility (estrogen)shots because HE wanted to start a new family.
What a scumbag he is.
Elizabeth is just as responsible as John.
Elizabeth is a snarky moral high-grounder. Have you forgotten that she trashed Theresa H. Kerry in her book and then insulted Hillary in an interview and had to call and apologize? Hillary took the call. I would not have…
Hillary is a better person than I am.
Sadly, Elizabeth is no better than her husband. Both hypocrites. Both think they are better than other folk.
>>> Both think they are better than other folk.
The Southern-ism is: “They think their s**t doesn’t stink.”
Regardless of Elizabeth’s health She IS COMPLICIT of still campaigning with John. That’s like an agreement with the devil. Makes me wonder if Elizabeth is really that ill. Just saying, we only know what they have told us..
My point being is that desperate people will do anything to hold onto a partner sometimes.
Why Edwards is really in trouble…It’s the money, stupid.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059486/posts
If the Obama campaign infiltrated the Clinton campaign via Patti Solis-Doyle, then it isn’t unreasonable to think his campaign either was in collusion with Edwards from the start or that they infiltrated his campaign in some way also.
If two people are partners in crime, don’t they each want to protect themselves by having some incriminating evidence on the other. At least that is what Hollywood and the writers of suspense fiction have taught us. So you may be right about the tax and campaign laws. Edwards has more to lose by telling us what he knows than by keeping his mouth shut.
Somebody probably clued in the National Enquirer on Edwards whereabouts the night he was caught in LA. Was it the Obama people or the Clinton people?
Such intrigue!
WAKE UP SUPERDELEGATES!
Somebody did clue them in. The two reporters that broke the story said they were tipped off, however they did not reveal their source. I doubt they will.
Comment by basil | 2008-08-10 19:18:02
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…no sweat. Other bloggers over at River daughter called Angry Artist out -afterwhich he/she dissapeared. That does not even sound like anything Hillary would say anyways.
Keep hope alive people!
That’s one reason i don’t go to many blogs; It’s hard to tell who is or isn’t a troll unless you read/post regularly.
44 has been my primary home for the past 6 months but I’ve been lurking/reading at NQ as well. That’s why I immediately asked here if anyone else had heard that rumor. Evidently it’s spreading rapidly. Like I said, i’ve already posted your response at 44. Thanks again for the heads-up.
I just checked the East Hampton weather report for today and the high was 76 with an 80% chance of rain.
Doesn’t match the description angry artist gave, does it.
Not to rain on your parade, but the facts are otherwise. Edwards attacked Obama as well. This is just showing one side of the attacks in a hotly contested primary race.
Next, when Obama ran his “sinverguenza” radio ad in Nevada. Sinverguenza translates as shameless but in the Hispanic cultural context when said to a woman it means “fucking whore.” Sinverguenza is a sexual slur. It was Edwards who came to Clinton’s defence and called Obama’s irresponsible and reprehensible.
After the South Carolina debate, Clinton and Edwards left Obama on stage and when to powwow privately for 30 minutes.
And the story was known in December 2007. It was known in October 2007. Furthermore, 2/3 of Edwards supporters went for Obama. I was part of the smaller group that came over to Hillary. You have to remember that before Hillary found her voice, there was a large ANYBODY BUT CLINTON group. I know I was one of that group but as I found Obama repulsive and I listened to Hillary I discovered a gem of a person. Hillary’s problem to be frank is that she ran a lousy campaign until February. Mark Penn and Patty Solis were the problem, not John Edwards.
Thank you, Charles for your post
I did remember Edwards attacking Barack.
I think we need to stay focused on on exposing Barack and getting Hillary on the ballot, if at all possible.
Furthermore, I am in no position to judge Elizabeth Edwards whom I have always admired. I am not privy to their personal relationship.
Fenelon, you make some good points. Edwards is a scumbag. We have not walked in her shoes and are not in any position to judge Elizabeth. We have more than enough on our plate defeating Obummer.
Good points. I concur.
the song by the O-jays comes to mind “BACK STABBERS”
I went to many Edwards events in 2004. I donated lots of money to his campaign..I even sent money for that stupid pie. I sent $75.00 the day before he dropped out for signs and buttons that never came. I remember receivng a bewildered message from the OneCorps coordinator.
Edwards played us all for chumps and was truly horrible to Hillary.
Democrats just don’t like women.
Charles,
I agree with your point. However, I cannot stand Edwards because he chose to run in the primary knowing full well that his lying/cheating was eventually going to be a problem. If he had not run, Hillary would have won IOWA, and it would have been a completely different ball game. Edwards is obviously just another ego-maniac hypocrit just like Obama.
I actually think that whomever forced Edwards out hurt Hillary alot. Remember that Hillary was running ahead of both Edwards and Obama while Edwards was in the race. The vote was being split.
If Edwards had stayed in Hillary would have gotten the nomination because she would have kept beating both Edwards and Obama.
Hillary won more major primaries, she won many of the final states. Your premise isn’t support w/votes.
RE: The Texas Darlin mystery—
Has anyone found out what’s going on? I searched the threads and found the website of her biggest detractor. (Scroll up where someone mentioned seeing that Texas D was threatened by this person before her site disappeared?)
cannonfire. blogspot .com
I like Elizabeth, but I’ve never liked John Edwards. He’s always seemed too slick.
Wouldn’t surprise me if he was manuvered into running for prez, later manuvered into dropping out, and finally pushed into an endorsement.
Comment by stingy | 2008-08-10 19:30:26
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I disagree. Hillary and Edwards split the white/blue collar vote in IOWA allowing BHO to win. If Edwards would NOT have run, Hillary would have gotten much more of the vote, and would have beat BHO. (this is just my opinion of course) :=)
Totally agree. Without Edwards splitting the white working class vote, Hillary mops up BaJoke in Iowa.
It was thought this was the case but poo-pooed by some Obama fawning media, that HRC and JRE essentially had the same base.
After New Hampshire and beyond, the fact was demonstrated repeatedly and near-unanimously except for, I believe, Wisconsin.
And that was before the Jeremiah Wright story hit the press.
If asshat narcissist Edwards doesn’t enter the race, Hillary is today the nominee.
This has likely been said above but I will repeat it here.
It has been rumored, strongly, that it was Obama’s camp that floated the story of Edwards’ affair before the Iowa caucus because they were afraid of Edwards’ surge and knew they could not afford to lose the caucus to him.
Second, and related, it is also thought that Edwards was explicitly threatened again with the story by Obama’s team after he dropped out of the contest and this is why he came out in support of Obama after Clinton destroyed Obama in the West Virginia primary. Even if the Obama camp did not explicitly do this, had Edwards known that it was Obama’s team that supposedly floated the story in Iowa then Edwards would have realized that the faster he jumped on Obama’s bandwagon the less inclination the Obama team would have to keep fanning the love child story to the press if it was they who did so in the first place.
The Axelrodians are the kings of the oppo dump. The rumor is that the pending Atlantic Monthly story about the Clinton Camp’s internal memos came from none other than Judas II, Patti Solis-Doyle. And, maybe two weeks ago, the Axelrodians gave the LA Times a served-up piece on McCain and his ex-wife, as well as information about how Reagan and McCain didn’t get along, etc.
This is what the Chicagoans are about. This is who they are. This is the essence of Barack Daley Wright Obama.
It’s Alice Palmer all over again.
Lord, I hate the Chicago political machine and their put up candidate.
We all hate that political machine, and rightfully so.
It is time to bury it, once and for all.
Bingo, remember that news clip from a helicopter of Obama outside the Edwards MacMansion with John and Elizabeth? Right before Edwards endorsed Obama? I remember Elizabeth turning and walking alone back into her house and Edwards just kind of standing there after Obama got into his SUV.
That must have been the final arm twist.
Here is a link to cache pages of Texas Darlin’s web site:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:h_uzI6GkCSIJ:texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/breaking-barry-soetoros-birth-certificate-in-republican-hands/+http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/breaking-barry-soetoros-birth-certificate-in-republican-hands/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:hMgobnoGCS8J:texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/divided-loyalties-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-2/+http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/divided-loyalties-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-2/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
.
She had started a new topic after the latest ones in this cache. There were about 20 posts on it when I last checked, and I was one of the last posters. The first post was TD saying what I said upthread about Cannon. There were various congratualatories, a post about Kenyan citizenship law, a troll saying we were cockroaches, an interesting theory on BO’s vacation, and some musings about whether the Republicans were helping promote BO’s exposure or not. In other words, it wasn’t new stuff exactly.
*BREAKING* Barry Soetoro’s Birth Certificate in Republican Hands
Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, PART 2 [REVISED]
A Call for Obama to Step Down
Letter to NY Secretary of State
Obama: A Disaster Waiting to Happen, Legal Challenges Imminent?
*Breaking* Techdude Finds Original Text on Alleged Obama Birth Certificate
Barack was Born in 2 Hospitals, Sister Maya was Born Twice!
map_r19_c03
and,
Techdude Challenge (+ all the images I have so far) [UPDATE]
CyberStalkers Be Warned
and,
*Breaking* Sister Maya’s Name Uncovered on Alleged Obama Birth Certificate [Update]
No Quarter Radio Tonight: TD and Bud White
and,
Eligibility Challenge State-by-State: ACT NOW [UPDATE]
plus:
OBAMA: The Forged COLB and a New Mystery
and finally:
In the News, and coming up…
plus:
ACT NOW: Contact Hawaii Attorney General
I kept trying to post several them at once, but noquarter would not let me post several links at once.
I have always remembered Clinton’s don’t Quit,,,With sites being shut down,and Hillary saying Obama won fair and square, when we all know different..I think Obama wants to keep his double BC hidden, until the night of his speech,and he will pass the reigns to Hillary..imo.. Pelosi, said there would be a couple of surprises at the convention.. I believe those surprises will be Clinton and Obama switching there roles. imo…….Too crazy …Never seen an election like this one.. Can’t wait for the convention.
From the time the story of Edwards totally broke I kept having this feeling that there was a bit of Obama behind some of it.
I just keep wondering if Obama or someone in Obama’s campaign knew and used it to get Edwards on his side.
It is really sad, but I am getting to the point that I trust very few of the big wigs that are supporting Obama right now. Maybe its because many of the big wigs that support Obama are coming up with some strange problems.
I THINK LARRY OR HIS TEAM SHOULD KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO TEXAS DARLIN’W SITE?
Larry is on John Batchelor’s show live right now talking about the birth certificate forgery.
Alert: Texas Darlin’s blog has been hijacked…no possible way to get on!!!!!!
Please see my post above about Texas Darlin
Look for the Canonfire blogspot address (above)she is mentioned in his article. Can anyone reach her?
Yep — I just confirmed that there is no way to get on TD blog.
Thankfully most of her work is archived on NQ.
The Troll Cannon should be banned.
I told this blog many times that I thought Cannon was a plant and got my butt chewed out for it. I still stand by my gut instinct on Cannon , a plant!
And yes Texas Darlin’s bog is not working. You can’t even login.
I lurk here a lot more than I post and I can’t help but agree with Dave about Cannon. There was just something totally “off” about him and sometimes his comments cemented my thoughts that he was indeed a plant.
Pew…. interesting predictions! I hope u are right.
Maureen Dowd has a hilarious column on Edward’s girlfriend. She had quite a history in the NY club scene, and was the model for a story about a club junky hooked on coke and sex.
Lute,
Now gee I wonder how Maureen knew all of this? Remember Maureen is no friend of Hillary.
Dowd is a SKANK and so we can trust her reporting on a sister skank.
Other than that, she is my first choice, along with Oprah and Richard Cohen, to be first in line for the guillotine when the revolution comes.
Your post demeans and libels Skanks everywhere.
There are any number of Skanks whose company has been amusing, at times. Unlike Dowd, whose work is uniformly disgusting, with occasional forays into the realm of excreble.
Be kind to those round-heeled sluts;
A Skank may be Somebody’s Mother!
ROFLMAO! That skank’s little boy may one be POTUS!
I hope TEXAS DARLIN will post here and let us know what has happened with her site….so many of us are concerned, esp in light of the progress she was making.
I suppose she’s knee deep in trying to get her blog back up. I hope she’s okay. Perhaps her computer has been attacked and she has no access to let us know.
Hillary hasn’t been destroyed - far from it. Let’s not give up on her two weeks before the Convention is over. The way Obama is going, Hillary has a very good chance of winning the nomination.
Obama is the one being destroyed - by himself.
Hi Larry,
Thank you and Susan for always keeping your readers informed. Also, TexasDarlin for all her work on the BC. Your blog helps me keep my sanity. I feel that eventually with all your and Texas Darlin’s hard work we will stop this imposter in his tracks. By the way I cannot access Texasdarlin’s blog. I get wordpress telling me I need a username and password to read her blog now. That seems very odd. Has she been hacked??
11/15/07 Edwards said Hillary ‘continues to defend a system that does not work, that is broken, that is rigged and is corrupt.’ [Source: Democratic Debate, CNN]
That John Edwards had no fuckin’ shame. What a sleaze.
BREAKING: Will Arnold Schwarzenegger be John McCain’s Vice President?
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
He can’t be–he doesn’t qualify to be president, he was not born in this country.
Maybe Obama wasn`t either. Interesting way for McCain to bring up the subject though.
you’re right! very interesting. Like McCain showing his birth certificate to the press when he wasn’t asked for it.
It’s very possible that the obama camp had knowledge of Edward’s liaison and is why Edwards was forced to endorse him when he did. Once they had no further use of Edwards, it was the obama camp who tipped off the Enquirer that Edwards was going to be at the Beverly Hilton hotel on that particular night.
Also, I have no doubt that Hillary knows she has to give her complete support to obama — one, because she said she would “work her heart out for the democratic nominee” and because she has been threatened in some way to “toe the line”, if she doesn’t want even more attacks heaped upon her by the MSM and the pro-obama blogs.
On the other hand, has anyone considered the possibility that Hillary knows something about obama that we don’t, which will come out during the GE that could literally take him out of the race? There also seems to be rising support for her to be picked as BO’s VP because it’s becoming clearer and clearer that he is in big trouble and McCain could very well win this thing. So, for political expediency (which is obama’s middle name), he does end up choosing Hillary and then when the truth of his inelligibility or some other scandal finally surfaces, Hillary steps in.
All I know is this election season has been chocked full of the most inexplicable political strategies and tactics that I’ve ever seen in any other national election and I just can’t believe that Hillary and Bill have just given up.
It just doesn’t make sense.
I just tried going to Texas’s site so I could send a link to the enquirer about OBama’s BC…
ANyone know what happened.
Here is the tip site for Enquirer if you want to tell them about the BC
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/tip/
fred baron is a big time obama fundraiser and ir would not surprise me in the slightest if the 35k a month he has been laying out fo the last 7 months came from baraks “crew” edwards osold”his endorsement to obama for the hush money ! dean has been in on this from the beginning! this has been a concerted conspiracy to defraud hillary out of the nomination! dean and obama need to be asked : how much did you know about this and when did you know it! edwards needs to be criminally charged in this affair and squeezed hard to squeal on barky and dean!!!!!!!
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC1EZcrZEIs
Forest Gump;
“And thats all I got to say on the MatTer
Thank you Teakwoodkite, I have that video and truly love it. When I heard the version with Eric Clapton and the other with all the Beatles, I wasn’t impressed. But there is something so poignant about this one.
Elizabeth Edward’s deserves a pretty big helping of blame over this fiasco, sorry to say. She knew about the affair before he decided to run. She knew John’s holier-than-thou speech about Bill. She knew if it came out, it wouldn’t just destroy her husband’s political career but also be a very damaging blow to important political causes. She also knew Hillary had the best plan for healthcare in this country. But she didn’t like Hillary so she kept back her endorsement when it would have done some real good for their shared cause. The sad thing really is, she apparently liked Obama even less.
The Edward’s have paid a pretty high price for their shared stupidity. But it is Shared, they both carry the blame.
There comes a time when political gamesmanship must end, and you must just plain do the right thing. Neither John nor Elizabeth recognized that moment. Too bad for all of us.
Very, very well said!
It’s to Hillary’s credit that she undoubtedly knew
all his dirt, and never said a word.
Could you imagine how Edwards would have gone in if the situation had been reversed?
i read Texasdarlins post earlier and when i went back to check for an update my link went on the fritz ! it was flashing the front page like 100 times a second! i had to do a hard reset on my mobile connection as i could not disconnect! i knew right then she was being hacked! Someone here need to reach out to her and make sure everything is ok and help her get back online!
Texas Darlin is mentioned here–
canonfire. blogspot. com
This was the detractor who posted on the COB thread. Does Techdude have a website?
Seriously–I’m wondering what is going on as it seems that her site has been hacked to act so strangely. It’s also curious that so many people are posting whose names I don’t recognize. Some have said Cannon is a troll?
Any clues, Northwest rain?
I’ve also seen references to Cannon as a troll — and he fits the bill — having threatened TD with exposure — this is what the Obamabots do.
Thankfully TD is back — no mention of the down time.
Riverdaughter just posted that someone was missing — and this individual has had threatening calls to her cell phone.
It might be a good idea to have a support network — watching each other’s backs.
SusanUNpc — had personal information posted on a thread by a troll — and the nasty person was threating ALL who were condemning the troll’s actions. (it was removed) —
Obamabot trolls are thugs — I’ve seen these creeps in the caucus — they are dangerous. One male Obamabot was literally shaking in rage as he spoke about Hillary Clinton (lies he told). Some of these trolls can be very dangerous.
Very few disputes with thugs resist solution by the application of a small cylinder of non-ferrous metal.
Repeat as required.
Texas Darlin’s site is back. BRAVO!
Luvya Dave.
It’s been a hairy weekend.
Thanks for letting us know
meh. the punk got what he deserved in the end. Karma is a bitch and when you are a fake ass lying politician it comes back to haunt you.
Sorry, but he is still lying now about paternity.
Disgusting P.O.S.
Frankly he tossed his career in the toilet and new it so he did what he could to damage hillary before he got pwnd.
Thankfully, karma will pretty much ensure this sack of feces will never again run for major political office.
John Edwards you SUCK!
Next up for the Karma Bus…Bacrackhead Hussein Obullshits
Edwards is a scumbag and I agree he is lying about not being the father of the baby. I will believe he is not the father when a DNA test says he is not. The mother is saying she will never allow a DNA test because it is an invasion of privacy. How convenient.
Probably part of the private agreement she signed with that finance guy for Edwards Campaign. They knew they couldnt keep the lid on the affair but they also know that she can prevent dna testing and made her agree to that for the monthly money she gets for letting Pretty Boy John My Wife has Cancer so i am going to go pork someone else Edwards stick it to her.
TD blog up again.
I wonder what obama promised Edwards or blackmailed him with (probably the affiar if it was blackmail) to get him to do his dirty work for him?
Obama promised Edwards that he would make sure his buddies in the Main Stream Media would avoid discussing the affair and his little rugrat in exchange for his endorsement. And that by the time the election was over people would forget and he would make John Auttorney General or if nothing his shoe shine boy at the whitey house.
I would suggest that anyone who tried to log in to TD’s site while it was down may want to change their password immediately as the login page may have been a phish.
wordpress password that is
At about 5 this evening I received an alert from my computer security that they had just blocked a hacker who had tried to access my computer three times in a ten minute period. They apparently recognized the person, and prevented it. The thing is, I had posted on TD for the first time, since I’m more of a lurker than a poster, but I wanted to thank her for all she has done. She had just posted that she was being harrassed, and she was waiting to post something new from Judah Benjamin. I’m new to this, having just got my computer from my son for Mother’s Day and I’m beginning to be afraid.
I just got to Texasdarlin’s site
Thank you, Larry, for printing this list of disgusting poison aimed at Hillary. That’s how you expose scum like Edwards.
Thank you once again Larry for being your informative self. I knew some of what Edwards said but not all because I liked shutting his mug out at the debates. Something about Edwards always seemed off to me….to good to br true!
does anyone else feel like the democratic party is full of incest?
When you start connecting who works for who and in the past who they worked for, it looks like incest.
it reminds me of that old song I’m my own grandpa”
For the good of the country it has to be revised and a good housecleaning in long overdue.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Helen,
Both parties are full of all of it.
Larry! great work! Are you going to look into Fred Baron? the bag man for Edwards(maybe Obamas Well!)seems that $35 k a month is a little beyond Edwards’s budget no?she has been given close to half a million
dollars by now. that’s big bucks! iguess it was that important to derail hilly
What if it turns out that cash from OUT OF THE COUNTRY!PAID FOR THIS?!?!?! SOROS, ET AL ?
Hannity America had the woman on that was stripped of her delegate,and now she is voting for Mccain.
Debra Bartoshevich I think her name was,good interview,if you watch the replay later.
Edwards assailed Clinton’s character, as did the fraud Obama.
Edwards and BO both seem completely devoid of any ethics. I’m glad John is gone - BO must lose to purge the rest of their ilk from the Dem Party.
Michelle Obama To Headline First Night Of Democratic National Convention.
Geez.
Sounds like a good night for checkers, or bingo.
Or, I COULD watch, “Shaka Zulu” and see some GOOD-lookin’ sistahs!
It’s going to be funny to watch her dip her head in paint and use it to mark a perimeter around the edge of the stage.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Larry, for putting this all together. You’re just the best!
The worst punishment for Edwards would be to have his head shaved before giving a major speech on the family.
OMG! Hilarious, he SHOULD shave his stupid head. The man is so incredibly vain. I always suspected he was a phony.
Seriously, any woman he sleeps with probably has to reassure him 20 times over that he was “just excellent in bed.”
I wonder how long it took him to try and mimic the Kennedys, and I wonder how long it will haunt him that he failed at it.
Giving Edwards a buzz cut would probably upset Johnnie more than the sins he perpetrated on his devout groupies. He’ll probably be smitten with alopecia..(loss of hair)
I am so glad some posted this today, I have been saying this for two days now.
Is that the norm to have the wife of the nominee making a speech and the convention? Why would anyone be interested in what Michelle has to say?
She is not a public official, she is not a candidate, she has never held office or any official position in the democrat party so why the hell is she speaking at the convention?
If Obama becomes President is Michelle going to be making daily speeches to the public, man this democrat party sucks big time, I really don’t understand how some of these people can sit there and take all this shit and not say a word, they dam well know Michelle Obama has no place in speaking at the convention so why sit quiet and not say something.
These democrats are all a bunch of weak, spineless individuals that seems to be so caught up in holding on to office they cant stand up for what is right anymore its truly disgusting.
Ah, Michelle, the Ebony Evita!
They are setting her up to Run for President after Barry has his third term.
LOL, MEchelle opening is just going to make EVERYONE sick. Who is she to be first?? Some rude loudmouth.
Do even the kool-aid drinkers like her?
I’ve made up my mind, now. I’m not even going to watch the convention.
I’m only watching the speeches by HRC and WJC. Then I’m switching it to the drying-paint channel, which holds more interest than an Obanshee coronation.
Edward’s punishment will also include at least 18 years of child support, and who knows, maybe his partner in crime has the whole affair on video…it was her line of work. Bet he’s got years of sleepless nights coming.
May I suggest to avoid unnecessary comments on Elizabeth Edwards, please?
I think it must be stressful and scary enough for her to deal with a recurrent serious disease, and to think about the future of her young children. For now let her and John figure out their own relationship, mainly for their children’s sake.
Just hope that if John opens his mouth to say anything, it will be for the good of Democracy in our country. I don’t want to hear any self serving preaching from him anymore.
Thank you.
Mr. Breck doesn’t care about anything other than his hair. Have it shaved as punishment and make him campaign for Obama in that condition. He’s like Samson in the bible without his prissy hair he, has no power.
Jesus Christ this moderating is driving me nuts!
Sorry, Larry, but your post is a total crock. Hillary Clinton’s campaign ran on inevitability, and she was vulnerable to be taken down. The truth is, as much as many Clinton supporters may deny it, she probably couldn’t have won the general election against McCain. There were real constitutional issues at work when she was the wife of a term-limited ex-president. No, this isn’t sexist; the same argument would be made if the situation were reversed. And yes, Edwards’ critiques were right about her own shortcomings on policy. It’s called politics, and as somebody who has been in the identical situation as Elizabeth, she is far more sympathetic to their situation than people like you.
So shitting all over Edwards because he made a mistake in not coming forward about the Hunter affair at the beginning of the campaign doesn’t address the real issue here, and that is the likely possibility Obama’s campaign was involved in Edwards being forced out in January. Whining about Hillary being “beating upon” doesn’t explain crap. The issue is our choices were taken from us, and by unscrupulous means.
I get SO sick of people who are so emotionally invested in their candidate they can’t see what in the hell happened in this primary.
Susan,
You sound like an abused woman.
She got half the votes.. (LOL) BOBO did more of a squeaking by then a taking down.
Under what logic could anyone possibly argue that Hillary Clinton couldn’t have won the general election!? Even with Edwards running the interference for Obama in a classic squeeze play, Hillary Clinton won a majority of Democratic primary votes, and most of the major states’ primaries. Clinton still beats McCain in polling by a wider margin than Obama in the general, and she’s not even running!
Susan Nunes, your argument is pathetic and laughable. Larry’s right: Edwards clearly hurt Hillary Clinton’s candidacy; but he also hurt the Democratic Party. I was an Edwards supporter in the beginning; but Clinton won my respect and my vote, just as she did for the majority of Democrats in the primary. Now, John Edwards has my deepest contempt.
So what’s your emotional investment? Oh, you though Oblahblah won this fair and square. Try again, troll.
Edwards shit on himself and his idol worshipers. And then wiped the face of his fellow democrats with it. Yeah He stinks, just like O-hole. The young girls for Edwards were so icky in love with him, just like the kids with Obama. Grow up bots.
Edwards is Swamp Scum. His sexist remark about not liking the color of Hillary’s jacket [made in early debate] showed me what this guy was about.
Forget Hillary. Edwards is a man of terrible judgement and risky behavior that oozes self love and contempt for others.
In fact he’s indefensible on all counts, and certainly transcends sex. Judgement? Nil.
And don’t forget, he used Elizabeth to attack Hillary, too. I remember being stunned at how hard Elizabeth was going after Hillary and thinking it was dastardly of Edwards to use his wife in that fashion. Little did I know the other shoe had not yet dropped.
So what? He was running for President against an opponent that at the time was considered invincible. He didn’t do any worse than Gene McCarthy did to Johnson in 1968 and far less than Teddy Kennedy did to Carter in 1980. Remember that debate when ALL the men jumped on Clinton over that stupid fucking driver’s license thing? This is a game that deals in body blows.
Use your goddamn training, Johnson.
Think WHY NOW?
Did corporate plutocracy want to head off another Bobby Kennedy as AG? He was preaching criminal conspiracy on the part of corporate medicine and that someone was going to do hard time..
Was he the great white hope for Obama, the last chance to suck up the votes of all us gun-totin’, snake-handlin’ shit-kickers? The Guardian, at least, thinks that is a real problem. Now who, pray tell would like to head that off?
We don’t know what John Edwards was thinking. But how many choices do we have? Either he was completely delusional running for president with a fresh affair hanging over his head thinking that it would never be found out or he didn’t care because he had another job to do and getting the Nom wasn’t it.