Obama Forgets the Forgotten Middle Class
By Bud White on August 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM in Advertising, Appalachia, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Current Affairs, Elitism, Florida, John McCain, Latinos, Middle America, West Virginia, Workers
During the opening night of the Olympics, John McCain broadcast the following ad, titled “Painful”:
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I was struck by the high quality of the ad. It tweaks Obama’s celebrity status, and then unleashes a full-throttle class attack on Obama. “Life in the spotlight must be grand,” intones a woman’s voice, dropping her voice off for emphasis, “but for the rest of us times are tough. Obama voted to raise taxes on people making just $42,000.”
Contrast this ad with the lingering image of Obama in Europe, a trip which I think cost him dearly. Obama is trying to stretch his image into that of a statesman; he tried to fill the shoes of real presidents by going on the Euro-Disney tour of historic moments of American presidential history. But these staged events actually make Obama seem smaller, like the scared guy hiding behind a faux presidential seal:
I’ve been thinking about Obama’s missteps since he “secured” the nomination. I think Obama would have been wise to go somewhere he lost big, like West Virginia, leaving behind his entourage and asking working people about their concerns in the streets and cafes of small town America. Instead of puffing himself up to look presidential, Obama should bring himself to the door steps of poor whites in Appalachia, Latinos in Texas, the elderly in Florida. Bill Clinton published a book during the 1992 campaign called “Putting People First,” and his economic message struck a chord. Obama has promised Hope, but he has failed to articulate a compelling economic message. But I suspect that he and his advisers are already intoxicated on their perceived greatness.
Obama’s message is a post-modern, self-referential echo of how great Obama is, because Obama brings you hope and that’s what you’ve been waiting for, in addition to yourself (who you didn’t know you were waiting for). He won’t let you be complacent and he will remind you that you and he are merging into “The Ones we’ve all been waiting for”. And then a light will shine. Our tires will spontaneously inflate. And the earth will begin to heal.
Putting sarcasm aside, take a look at a Bill Clinton ad from 1992. People often complain that politics is all image and no substance. But here we have a candidate who is nearly all substance. He is working at his desk while the names of economists supporting his economic plan scroll across the screen. Obama fills the screen with himself and his adoring crowds, Bill Clinton (like Hillary Clinton) outlined solutions. Working Americans, I suggest, can see the difference.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gny-7ZBsJ9w[/youtube]
My neighbor told me today that he’s voting for McCain. The only other time he’s voted Republican was for Nixon in 1972, an ominous warning for Democrats.
If Obama is losing Democrats like my neighbor — white ethnic, life-long Democrat, over 65 years old — he is in deep trouble. Back in April, Anglachel wrote that Obama’s inability to speak the language of the working class would cost the Democrats the election:
Should Obama be the nominee, he can kiss the general election goodbye … the Democratic Party leadership itself is going to be paying for its whole-hearted embrace of reductionist class politics. Some voters will defect to the Republicans, though I think that is going to be limited … I think you see a significant section of the working class simply turn away from participation, depressing turn out and costing the party electoral success. They will stay away until the party offers them candidates who talk to their material interests instead of to the leadership’s fantasy of being modern day Solons.
Obama’s inability to speak to the “forgotten middle class,” as Bill Clinton famously called them, is a primary source of his troubles. His campaign is still running to win the votes of college towns, but now great swaths of working America are starting to pay attention and the candidate speaking to the concerns of the working class, ironically enough, is the Republican nominee.
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I just shake my head when I see that faux Presidential seal.
No offense, but most college students do not have the maturity to have the remotest clue what is going on in America, how it works, who works for it and who really gives a shit. While they are embraced in their “hope and change” and hip coolness, there are millions of people working to secure democracy of all places, the Democratic Convention. Obama supporters are lost in their euphoria and totally oblivious as to what it’s all about. But come November, their going to find out.
Do you think the hordes of affluent voters and college age voters will be sufficient to outweigh the loss of the Clintonites and/or the more conservative democrats?
No. The college kids will get bored and more and more people who voted for him in the primary are opening their eyes. His first Hopey dopey speech was probably his best, the rest of his hopey dopey speeches are boring and he has such little substance and too many flip flops on issues and policies that he’ll lose by a landslide. That’s my opinion.
So in other words
We are being forced (or I feel we are) to give this election to the REPUBLICAN Hillary/Clinton hate machine
INSTEAD of
the DEMOCRATIC Hillary/Clinton hate machine
NONE OF THIS MAKES A DAMNS WORTH OF DIFFERENCE IN THE END THEN DOES IT?
(PARDON ME WHILE I CUSS)
BOMOGDAMRATFUCKINGPOSLIARSBLTTHIEVESMURDERERSHATERSFRAUDSPIGSAHHHHHHHHHHHH!
breathing
ok I feel a bit better
Yes. We are free to vote for either of our masters’ candidates.
doesn’t that just
SUCK!!!
arghhhhhhhhhhhh!
Maybe. The Repubs don’t seem to be pushing voter registration.
The Republicans have always said the viewer voters, the better their chance of winning.
I was real happy when an AA co-worker said she was for Clinton. It really would bother me to think that everyone is voting race.
I have to say I like this ad. It is much better than the others. I sure hope that the colleage age do not out weigh the other voters..
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
It seems to me that the ideal Presidential campaign would be based along the lines of “I care about the American people. Here is what I will do to help them live a better life.” Obama’s campaign has a message in it. The message seems to be: “Do I really have to be doing this? I’m going to win anyway, so why don’t you just go ahead and have the coronation?”
Great writing. You contrasted the difference by comparing the fluff and the substance, side by side.
Oh, how I miss the Clintons.
I have noticed the Obama cannot communicate with the working class Americans and the military. I think it is his inherent disdain for both groups for their perceived lack of “intellectualism” (which of course is what ails the liberal intellectuals anyway). But I am not even sure that Obama is one of them but he started to pretend he was one of them — that is how he built his varsity coalition and now he does not know how he can change his tune.
BTW, Bud thanks for the 1992 video — did you all know that Bush’s people modeled their campaigns even 2004, after Clinton’s?
Interesting. I didn’t know that.
I think Obama is genuinely “secular progressive” (Bill O’Reilly’s term) and it is ONLY the fact that he happens to be half African that has allowed him to gain almost all of the African American vote, despite the fact that culturally most AAs are not “SP”.
This is the “new coalition” Donna Brazile speaks of. Secular progressives (of which I used to count myself one, but I’m beginning to wonder). Unfortunately it’s more like Frankenstein’s monster, though, two very different things grafted together in an inartful way. If Obama should make it to the White House (heaven forfend), I believe that coalition will dissolve overnight.
Oops, editing error. Should read:
‘This is the “new coalition” Donna Brazile speaks of. Secular progressives (of which I used to count myself one, but I’m beginning to wonder) and African-Americans.’
I think secular progressive is just a new term for the old liberal intellectual. I still think he is a pretender with no core beliefs — there is ample evidence of lack of courage and conviction — a Noam Chomsky wannabe but afraid to stand by that because of these ignorant clingy people who will not give you their vote and yet, don’t know how to transform yourself to speak to those same people — so what you get is a confused muddle which is what he is right now. Look at Hillary on the other hand; how transformed she became after SC, and started talking about the invisible people — she of course had all the policies in place before that which made it easier to talk to those same people with conviction.
That seal is like something straight out of SNL.
Obama has never cared about anyone but himself and his image. I just can’t believe how many people my age (over 50) fell for it. That was the most obvious difference with Hillary—she really cared about the people and the country. He doesn’t relate to the middle class or working class. He’s so Bush-like. We’re in an age of American Idol, I guess.
I’m still worried that their drive to register students and felons will pay off after watching how they gamed the caucuses and small red states.
My teenage daughter was very excited the other day: we saw a McCain bumper sticker next to someone’s Hillary sticker.
Not according to Obama fans. They act like Bush Republicans to me (sorry if your on here and you like Bush). They Clinton Bash all the time. Just ask one of them what they think about Clinton, and you swear you are talking to a backwoods southern Lawyer. It wouldn’t be so bad, but they tell complete mistruths about them, and they don’t even know they are doing it. I just don’t understand how any democrat can say one friggin bad thing about the Clintons and still can themselves democrats.
No offense taken, I like Bush for the most part and I see your point. I think this is one of those few times both sides might be able to vote for the same guy to avoid Obama. Then 2012 we can return to our roles as mortal enemies
Kidding, I think there are probably quite a few things that a smart candidate could get everyone on board for, I know even though I’m not amongst the main group of this site there are subjects we agree on.
Right now the main subject we agree on is Obama– that’s a negatory.
It may be that Democrats and Republicans (excluding Obamacrats and Neo-cons) both want what is best for the country. They just disagree on the means to that end. Usually. Now is different. The biggest, most immediate threat to the country is Barack Obama. There is general agreement on that. So we work together to counter that threat.
I tell you, Bill O’Reilly’s book “Culture Warriors” was truly prescient about all this. Written in 2006, it’s about the schism between secular progressives and traditionalists. He makes the point in the book that this is NOT the same as liberal-conservative, so some liberals are actually ‘traditional’ and women, in particular, are likely to fall into that category.
Traditionalists can be liberal economically and pro-environment, but still believe in living a life devoted to principles and to service (just like Hillary!) rather than self gratification.
I think O’Reilly may have, TWO YEARS AGO, put his finger on why so many Hillary supporters loathe Obama.
Hmmm…I have to say O’Reilly kinda bugged me with that book and his going on and on about it.
Have to admit, I couldn’t really make it through his show then. But he would interupt people to make those points kinda messing with the flow of the interviews.
All that said….he may be right.
oops…interrupt
I keep dreaming about a McCain-Clinton ticket. I know, there is no chance because of party politics. But it would be nice. Two good politicians on the middle of the road, bringing the country together. Unity on grand scale.
It would be nice to have a third party made up by moderate dems and repubs. The fringes would lose their influence to a certain extent.
Me too. It would be an unbeatable combination. Not just electorally but also in governing the country. It HAS been considered, as Kerry considered asking McCain to be VP. And maybe it’s been done (I forget my U.S. history).
I have to agree, I dream of that also…
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
very funny, Morgan. I look forward to that day of spirited debate, and am gladd we can agree now on the danger Obama represents to America.
I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN OBAMA IS A FRAUD I WANT MORE 411 ON HIS FAKE BIRT CERTIFICATE AND HIS 1981 TRIP TO PAKISTAIN!
Val,
You will find the CAPS LOCK KEY is on the left side of your keyboard, about halfway up. Hit it to stop shouting.
Typing in ALL CAPS tends to get your message disregarded.
If it is more than one line, it is harder to read it too.
Peter Brown, who runs Quinnipiac:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12433.html
One of Brown’s observations:
If there is “racial tension” in Michigan, my god we are in deep shit.
“racial tension” ? Did he ask people this or assume it? Here’s a thought: If you set aside the racial identity of these tense people in Michigan, you might find they have issues over the primary process, labor, gender, etc.. Maybe their issue is that they want a Democrat for president, but they aren’t sure Obama is one.
That’s a code language for “anyone who doesn’t support Obama is a racist.” Michigan voters care a lot about the economy, it’s true every election, since they depend so much on the car industry (which is tanking right now BTW). Obama offers them nothing, especially since his cover was blown on NAFTA.
Heather said:
“That’s a code language for ‘anyone who doesn’t support Obama is a racist.’ ”
Bingo.
There’s another big backlash building against Obama because of how readily he cries “Racism” through his proxies at any and all substantive criticism. Someone criticizes his tax plan, and within minutes Moveon.org and DailyKos are writing press releases about how the criticism is racist.
My first post here, and I freely confess I’m a Republican. I gotta give Bill Clinton, credit, though; he was actually a pretty decent president. Even though I voted for W twice, I dare say I liked WJC better. Had he not diddled around with Monica, he would never have been impeached, and Gore would have handily won the 2000 election.
NAFTA, so why Unions are still suporting Obama. He will turn His bac on the!!!. He hates Middle Class,white working woman, and hard working man!!!
Racial tension…huh?
Like when Obama threw those two Muslim women under the bus?
The thing that kills me is the journalists who are continuing the racist theme for Obama. What true racist would vote for him in the first place? None.
So, clearly the point of bringing it up repeatedly is only exploitative of those who are on the sidelines. Call them racist and then they’ll jump to prove otherwise.
Hopefully, people get resentful of the psychological assault on their character and decency and wake up.
Agree Karma. Exploitive is right on the mark. It is the last thing this country and our people need is to be used further by anyone. Many feel “dirty” at this point in time for not having spoken out earlier against the war, many feel guilty about not speaking out sooner on civil rights. We don’t need an election run on whatever guilt is being fed. The mentality that it should be bought into is even more disturbing. No excuses for any act of whatever type of violence has taken place in our history, the key is not to repeat it. Which means you don’t get to use it as some sort of counter attack on people, who had nothing to do with any of it. The belief in the assumption of something owed due to past racism/harm is psychologically violent and destructive.
Excellent points.
Great ad, the Obama’s are so caught up in the fact that he is the first black man to ever get this far that they have lost all sight of what is really good for this country.
Obama will always be written in the history books, that is such a feeling it would surly make anyone ego rise. Imagine white people lining up to see Obama, to touch him, worship him, this black man from now where now having all this control and power, Obama’s ears are ready to pop off with all this adulation from the masses.
This poor man who was brought up on food stamps, in poverty is almost POTUS, and some of you still want him to think about the people or the country oh please not now Obama is still to high on his magnificence and the possibility of what could be.
Bud, you are absolutely right. And chosing West Virginia as your example of what Obama should have one and should do really struck a chord with me. I worked on JFKs campaign for President. And he did visit West Virginia. And by all accounts the poverty he saw and the resilence of its citizens changed this man of privilege forever. He never forgot West Virginia and helped them economocally, and by extension, all Americans during his all too brief Presidency.
Obama tries to pretend he is the new JFK. But he is a fraud. Soon after he was elected to the U.S. Senate there was a picture of Obama on the newswires in swimming trunks emerging from the ocean. There is a picture of JFK doing the exact same thing in Hyannis Port. I knew then when I saw that picture that Obama was a fake and a poser.
NObama
Nice story. JFK is many of our personal hero, and it did take him rubbing shoulders with the common folks for him to gain a real empathy to their problems. thanks for the comment.
Sen Obama ‘worked’ in the slums of Chicago for a couple of years.
His mom was basically a single mom.
He tells us how his family struggled.
He reminds us how his dad was a goat herder.
He has visited his paternal side of his family in Africa
He has made it a point of telling people how he understands what it meabns to be poor.
JFK grew up in wealth from the get go so he had to rub shoulders with the plebians and the poor to fully understand their pains and needs for their families.
Sen Obama…who supposidly understands what it means to be poor-screwed over the poor and middle class as soon as he had political clout to do so…
What is his excuse???
http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_Obama_Craze_Count_Me_Out_5413.html
http://amok.asianweek.com/2008/02/28/obamas-campaign-finance-chair-has-links-to-subprime-debacle/
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C05E4D71E3CF934A3575BC0A9679C8B63
Now…all his votes in Congress on subprime mortgage issue are beginning to make more sense…
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/fraser
The Nation, “Subprime Obama” by Max Fraser 1/24/08 Post 2/11/08 issue
“Obama’s disappointing foreclosure plan stems …
“there was a picture of Obama on the newswires in swimming trunks emerging from the ocean.”
Shhhh…keep yer voice down!
Lynn Sweet, Chicago Sun-Times “reporter” and founder of “Blowjobs for Obama” might hear you! After this picture was posted this “journalist” openly fantasized in one of her columns about following him into the locker room.
Edwards is a quitter, a panderer, a liar and cheater. Obama is a talker with no substance and seems to have gotten a push up the ladder of life by his backers, relatives and puppet masters. And both Clintons are continually working for Americans and the people’s issues. Clintons make slackers look really really bad. Enough said.
Concur!
Not to mention an adulterer (edwards)
Read about Sen Obama’s missing/lost years-and-what kind of ‘pushes’ he may have gotten during his early years…especially during college & law school…
http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/1497.html
http://forums.gunboards.com/showpost.php?p=396421&postcount=1
These articles are well-documented-
The man is not a Democrat.
I believe so too. I think he is the real manchurian Candidate. He is making us look like fools.
I heard a caller into Cspan this morning refer to Obama as an Internationalist. I’ve never heard of that in politics. Anyone know what it is?
Someone who puts the International community ahead of America.
Well the guy that called in said he was an Obama supporter and when he called O that it gave me great pause.
I believe Moveon represents groups from all over the world who are oppressed but are really anarchists. I mostly recall hearing complaints at the governments particularly the American Government and very little compassion about the actual oppressed people. Not sure what an Internationalist’s real concerns would be.
The POTUS must remember that the welfare of the U.S. depends somewhat on the welfare of the International community. But the welfare of the U.S. must always come first.
I agree with that.
Another excellent essay. And I’m so glad you ran that ad, Bill Clinton’s economic program, which wasn’t simply rhetoric but a detailed direction that did, in fact, put the country on sound economic footings. Remember Hillary’s comments: What didn’t you like about the Clinton years: The peace or prosperity?
Also these lines struck me:
“I think Obama would have been wise to go somewhere he lost big, like West Virginia, leaving behind his entourage and asking working people about their concerns in the streets and cafes of small town America. Instead of puffing himself up to look presidential, . . .”
Absolutely! When he took such a shellacking in W.Va, then that region should have been the first place to go back and talk with the folks. Instead, he pulls a panzer move: try to roll right over people with this “I am the One” nonsense and the European razzle-dazzle. The whole movement has been empty and hollow and dangerous.
I’m with your neighbor. I’ve been a loyal Dem all my life. I believe in the Democratic notion of inclusion and offering a hand to pull people up to expanded opportunity.
But I cannot go for this. And that makes me sad, but also determined.
Thank you another fine piece!
We don’t hear much about the millions of Americans without access to health care anymore.
But we hear lots about Obama’s celebrity status.
Obama must be relieved to skirt the issues and specifics.
Obama has only ONE policy, and that is to get to the White House. Once defeated, I`m sure he will self destruct.
Sorry for pasting such a large article here, but I could not post the link. For some reason NQ does not allow me to post news from Yahoo. I thought it was a good read. It is 7 WORRISOME SIGNS EMERGE FOR OBAMA AHEAD OF DNC.
Glenn Thrush
Mon Aug 11, 5:29 AM ET
A few weeks back, Time magazine was musing that John McCain was in danger of sliding from “a long shot” to a “no-shot.” Around the same time, a hard-nosed former Hillary Clinton insider declared the race “effectively over” thanks to the McCain campaign’s ineptitude, the tanking U.S. economy and Obama’s advantages in cash, charisma and hope. And Obama, up by three to six points nationally, was about to leverage a much-anticipated trip to Iraq, Afghanistan and Europe into a pre-convention poll surge.
Instead, his supporters are now suffering a pre-Denver panic attack, watching as John McCain draws incrementally closer in state and national polls – with Rasmussen’s most recent daily national tracker showing a statistical dead heat.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has been privately enumerating her doubts about Obama to supporters, according to people who have spoken with her. Clinton’s pollster Mark Penn recently unveiled a PowerPoint presentation red-flagging Obama’s lukewarm leads among white female voters and Hispanics – while predicting a five-point swing could turn a presumed Obama win into a McCain landslide.
“It’s not that people think McCain will win – it’s that they are realizing that McCain could win,” says Quinnipiac University pollster Peter Brown, whose surveys show tight races in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. “This election is about Barack Obama — not John McCain — it’s about whether Barack Obama passes muster. Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama.”
Obama’s aides point to the stability of his small national lead, say they aren’t worried about his summer stall and think his numbers will improve when voters begin tuning in to the conventions.
“This is a country that is looking for a fundamentally different direction and John McCain offers nothing but the status quo,” said spokesman Bill Burton, adding that he wasn’t “losing any sleep” over his boss’s rough patch.
The campaign’s confidence may turn out to be justified but two weeks prior to the national convention there are more than a few worrisome signs for Obama. Here are seven:
1. Race. “The idea that Obama was going to win in a blowout was always preposterous,” says former Nebraska senator and onetime presidential hopeful Bob Kerrey, an Obama backer. “A big piece of this, of course, is whether white people are going to support a black guy… If [Obama] is a tall, skinny white guy named Paul Jones it’s a different story.”
Obama is running nearly neck-and-neck with McCain among white voters in most polls, a major cause for optimism considering that John Kerry and Al Gore lost the white vote by 17 and 12 points respectively. Among whites, he does well with women, the affluent and college grads but fares poorly among low-income earners and Catholics – key swing groups that handed Hillary Clinton stunning blowouts in West Virginia and Kentucky.
How much does his race factor into tightening contests in Missouri, Wisconsin, Florida, Minnesota and Ohio? Nobody knows – and that’s the problem.
A huge challenge for Obama, insiders say, is simply determining how much skin color will matter in November. Race is nearly impossible to poll – no one ever says “I’m a racist” – and no campaign wants it revealed they are even asking questions on the issue.
“It’s the uncertainty that kills me – we know it’s going to be factor, but how big a factor?” asks a Democratic operative with ties to the Obama camp. “How do you even measure such a thing?
Adding to the jitters: GOP surrogates like New York Rep. Pete King have vowed to make Obama’s relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright a centerpiece during the homestretch.
2. Obama’s strength in Virginia may be overhyped. His chances of ending the Democrats 44-year losing streak in the commonwealth are pretty good – thanks to the explosive growth of the liberal D.C. suburbs, and a 147,000 spike in voter registration sure to benefit Democrats. But Obama’s aides privately concede his odds in Virginia are probably no better than 50-50 and that the state is far from a lock-solid hedge if he loses Ohio and Florida.
3. Michigan’s in play for McCain. In the year of the downturn, the hard-hit upper Midwest should be prime Obama country. Instead it’s a potential minefield. Obama is still ahead by two to five points here – similar to margins of victory enjoyed by Gore and Kerry in the last two presidential contests– but McCain has quietly crept up over the past month and could vault ahead if he anoints ex-Gov. Mitt Romney. Simmering tensions between predominantly-black Detroit and its white suburbs could hurt Obama. And McCain’s surrogates were handed a gift in the jailing of Obama supporter Kwame Kilpatrick, Detroit’s mayor.
“Watch Michigan — the Democrats think they’ve got it but they don’t,” says Quinnipiac’s Peter Brown, a longtime Michigan observer. “Obama should be killing [McCain] there, but there’s a lot more racial tension in Michigan than in other states.”
Obama also hasn’t pulled away in other Democrat-friendly neighboring states, watching leads in Wisconsin and Minnesota erode over the last month.
4. Bad times could be good for McCain. If anger helps Democrats, fear advantages Republicans. A growing number of Democratic strategists worry that some swing state voters may opt for McCain if the economy veers from merely awful to downright terrifying. The typical political calculus – that bad economic times will deliver the White House to Democrats – may not hold if people start viewing the downturn as, essentially, a national security crisis that can’t be entrusted to a novice. And that was McCain’s underlying message in his Paris Hilton ad: Bank failures, soaring gas prices and plummeting house values are forms of economic terrorism and he’s an all-purpose anti-terror warrior.
“John McCain is a known quantity,” says Bob Kerrey, who thinks Obama will ultimately prevail. “You don’t look at John and say, ‘Who the heck is he?’ he’s a veteran, he’s a guy who got pretty banged up in Vietnam. He can deal with crisis. There’s some uncertainty about Senator Obama.”
The good news for Obama, of course, is that McCain – who infamously admitted he “never understood” economics – is loathed by unions, was somnambulant at the dawn of the housing meltdown and still gropes for a coherent economic policy that doesn’t include the words “offshore drilling.” But he doesn’t have to win the argument, just reinforce doubts about Obama with wavering swing state voters. The Illinois senator still enjoys a major edge on the economic issues, but his 20-point June lead on the who-can-best-fix-the-economy question slipped to a 17-point edge in July, according to the Pew Research Center.
“Obama wins on the economy,” said Guy Cecil, Hillary Clinton’s field director during the primaries. “But it will be interesting to see if McCain’s able to close the economic gap.”
5. Where have you gone, Ross Perot? Bill Clinton, the lone two-term Democratic president since FDR, wouldn’t have been elected if independent Ross Perot hadn’t siphoned 19 percent of the vote in 1992. Former Georgia Rep. Bob Barr, staging an indie bid from McCain’s right, has little cash and doesn’t seem to be a factor in competitive states.
6. The Legacy of LBJ, Jimmy and Bubba. Barack Obama would have been a trailblazer no matter what – but the Democrats’ trail to the White House has been remarkably narrow since 1960, accommodating only southern whites with border-state strength: Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. (Add Al Gore if you’re counting the popular vote.)
7. Americans may want divided government. Some Democratic operatives think a possible landslide for their party in congressional races could backfire on Obama.
“Fairly or not, folks think he’s pretty liberal and nobody wants a pair of Pelosi’s running things,” says a New York-based Democratic consultant.
Adds Bob Kerrey: “The country’s still pretty divided… people may want a divided government. They want change but I’m not sure that the Democratic agenda has the support of a majority of Americans.”
Kerrey misses a fairly significant point. It is not the white folk in America that are making an issue of race. It is Obama who is doing that.
But I have news for Kerrey. Without his race, 0bama wouldn’t have finished as well as Edwards. No resume, nothing “new” about him? He’d have gotten the 0’s 0bama deserves.
How disingenuous is this:
“A big piece of this, of course, is whether white people are going to support a black guy… If [Obama] is a tall, skinny white guy named Paul Jones it’s a different story.”
– If Obama were a tall skinny white guy, with his record of accomplishments, he would be a nobody. It is precisely his race, parlayed into a symbol of ‘hope and ‘change’, that has made him viable at all.
– What kind of sickness is upon this country, that so many supposedly intelligent (educated) people cannot just see this as the obvious fact it is? Maybe they do and they’re just totally confident that his symbolhood is sufficient reason to vote for an empty suit.
Ha, Bud I forgot how big that seal was. I can’t believe no one in the campaign could see how ridiculous that looked.
This clip is from the Chris Matthews show. They are talking about the opinions of fellow Senators from both sides of the aisle. Bottom line, Obama did nothing to reach out to Republicans (Hillary has) and Obama is arrogant and inexperienced. But we already knew that.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5zaz4f
It is so difficult to comprehend just how this fraud got this far. The man is a nightmare.
My husband voted republican once in 1980 for Reagan. I’ve never voted for a republican president but this time I will. Two educated over 50 long time dems. I wouldn’t be so sure of myself if I was Obama.The french relay team got egg on their faces last night due to that kind of arrogance. Lesson here?
Not only that, I think the Olympics are going to hurt Obama.
Obama wants to sell the idea that America is a crappy country where everyone feels hopeless and ethnic minorities are treated badly. Otherwise, why should we need him to ‘heal’ us?
Yet look at the images coming out of the Olympics!! NO other country on the face of this earth has the ethnic diversity that we have. It is beautiful to see, and brings a tear to the eye, making us all so proud to be Americans. Exactly NOT what the Obama campaign wants us to be feeling.
Finally I think that the American public is beginning to get it in spite of the media cover-ups. The signs are unmistakeable. Coupled with his inability to communicate without a script and the coming explosions about his eligibility and background, he is going down. I want this to happen before Denver, but really, as long as it happens before Nov. I will be happy. When challenged to step up, Americans can get it done. Look at our men’s relay team last night at the Olympics. The French trash talked them and said they would smash the Americans, because that was what they came to the Olympics for. Well guess what, the great American heart and will got the job done. What great young people we have and what a great spirit and what a great Country!!! See ya France.
On another note, Fox did a segment on JEdwards having cost HRC the nomination. JMO but I think that OB’s gang of evil had the set-up planned all along. They kept Edwards in to pull from Hillary’s votes. The threat of exposure was there all along. Why else would Elizabeth Edwards go along with letting J run even though she knew it was under false pretenses? What else did they threaten them with I wonder? Why else would JE endorse OB? He now was of no use anymore so they let the dogs out. Under the bus Edwards family. No excuses for JE infidelity, but methinks there is a lot more here than meets the eye.
Exactly!! – more here than meets the eye.
I’m still wondering if Edwards really told Elizabeth in 2006….
or maybe I just don’t want to believe Elizabeth was willing to go along with the ruse.
The party has been taken over by “limousine liberals” and “Saab socialists”. Not a winning combination for the White House.
add BLT proponents to your list of hijackers.
Leah Daugherty post
Ah, it’ll be nice to see Obama crash and burn. The wheels are falling off of the bus and it’s about to drive off a cliff. Come November, it’ll smash to the ground and explode. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama has a mental breakdown on national television after the results are reported.
breakdown, yes, speech no.
Nobama.
PUMA lives.
Political is reporting tha Obama has another book coming out in the next week or so.
I wonder who wrote it? Seriously when would he have had a time?
As a published author of 7 books it takes months of grinding away to complete a book.
Oh, a book, well that explains why he hasn’t had time to come up with any real solutions. Ohhhh, now why didn’t I think of that before.
I noticed the sentence, “thanks to the explosive growth of the liberal D.C. suburbs, and a 147,000 spike in voter registration sure to benefit Democrats.” Now I wonder how much the Republican spike was, or if it dropped by the same amount. This is what gets me, that is propaganda right there, they give you a piece of information but don’t analyze it, then come to some proposterous conclusion that it will benefit the democrats? How do they know that? Do they compare it to anything? No. Its complete bullshit scientifically. Bullshit to sway the mindless.
Obama has to be reminded over and over. He is not the President, he just plays one on TV.
Sometimes these celebs take their role too seriously..LOL!
I think this man has a serious psychological problem. Edwards narcissistic and egocentric problems seem like peanuts compared to Obama that believes he is the Messiah. Presumptuous, arrogant, liars that underestimate our intelligence this describes Obama and Michelle is a nutshell.
Edwards admitted his hubris surpassed reality.
Just think of Obama’s hubris and arrogance he’s displayed from the gitgo!
Edwards admitted his hubris surpassed reality.
Just think of Obama’s hubris and arrogance he’s displayed from the gitgo!
At least Edwards promoted crucial issues – while Oblahma has been given the red carpet treatment from the media.
The Democratic Party of the people is gone.
What happened and when?
I am going to stay as far away from this new Obama Party as I can get – very scary stuff.
Obama is a cold hearted individual – went to see his Grandmother in Hawaii – did not take his wife and 2 kids – he took staffers????????????????
Maybe the whole idea that he wanted to tell grandma that she better not tell the truth is actually correct. I mean if Michelle and the kids don’t know that his real last name isn’t Obama or that he wasn’t really born in Hawaii, then of course Barack wouldn’t want the family to see grandma.
That or he’d have to change the kids last names to and that would open the door Why? Why daddy why? Then he’d open a can of more worms.
//www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=970/
I wonder if Barack Obama or his campaign has given permission to use his image at Stylin Online which sells t-shirts that mock America and the Presidency
If these are photos in the public domain, he is what we would call professionally “toughshitsky.”
Overstock.com may be miffed, though, the “O” looks like their logo.
Senator Overstock, LOL
FYI – Savage Politics has a great piece this morning, titled, “Sniffing Out Barack.”
http://savagepolitics.com/
Talks about the intentional failure of our media to perform its function as the Fourth Estate – mainly about their purposeful exclusion of everything “bad for barack.”
Lots of stuff about barry’s “birth certificate” – summarizes a lot of information we’ve seen here and from Texas Darlin’. Good words for No Quarter in the post also – plus, they’re giving further exposure to the FEC petition to investigate barry.
Check it out.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama has a mental breakdown on national television after the results are reported.”
It could happen when the “real” campaign starts in September. If the Republicans go after Obama like we think they will; I don’t think he can take it.
I don’t think his surrogates can take it either.
Look forward to seeing the likes of Claire McCaskill, John Kerry, Big Ed Schulz, KO, Tweety, Campbell Brown (of SNL parody fame), Eugene Robinson, Carl Bernstein, Jamal Simmons – and ALL the rest of the sycophantic, lying, kool-aid drinking, race-baiting crowd – have very painful, comical, public meltdowns.
no, he, his hateful wife and black leaders will all just cry “racism”. If something doesn’t go your way, blame it on the color of your skin. God forbid, someone might have to admit that it is “moi”, them, something they did or didn’t do and admit it and correct it. Until that is done, the problem will never be resolved.
Harp, you write some of the best stuff. And this column is simply on-spot and brilliant. Thank you, BW and nQ!
For those of you whom talk about Obama being all talk and no substance, the correct term is “smooth talker”. Its a logical fallacy. It occurs when someone discussing a point, uses flagrant adjectives and elegant words to distract from the original discussion. Obama does this in debates and interviews. Phrases to look for is “They will this” and “They will That”. “Thats not the point, the point I’m trying to make is this”. “Look, let me finish what I was saying.” These are all signs that the debater is trying to shift emphasis somewhere–the discussion isn’t about them or they its about you or a particular subject and what YOUR take is. Obama is really really good at this, because he uses it in coordination with fallacies of ambigouity–phrases that can mean mutliple things to different people. This is his achille’s heel. If you stay on subject and push him, by not letting him switch subject and calling on him without relent to be very specific, he will break. The media knows this, I have seen them test him before. They will ask him over and over to specific on specific talking points untill he literally reaches a point where he becomes hauty and mean like a spoiled child trying to get their way, but before he breaks they stop and let him have his way. Imagine the court room where the witness is trying to be as vague as possible and the lawyer pushes and pushes untill the witness breaks down and cries–that is what they will do to Obama. He is a walking fallacy. They will break him I promise, they are waiting till he actually gets the nomination to do it.
Watch and enjoy, after the convention, Obama will break so bad, it will make Jesse Jackson look like a hippie on pot. I imagine a situation where he is forced to go before a group of reporters and they push and push him for a specific answer to the question. He will get mad eventually and either, curse at one of them or slam his hand or do something out of extreme frustration. I gaurantee you this is comming–call it a Howard Dean moment or what you will.
I’ve known TOO many smooth talkers so I can now spot one a mile away. Edwards and Obama fit that perfectly.
Reporters arent going to push him hard.
His press entourage is hand picked by his staff. THey have to pass the I Love Obama test to get on the Hopey Dopey Express.
The Main Stream Media is in the pocket for this prick. They wont cover it just like they didn’t want to cover the Edwards Oops I Stuck my D!ck Where It Didn’t Belong Again Fiasco.
The Fix is in.
Barry will be the 44th President of the United 57 States of ObameriKKKa.
Now eat your waffles and blow up your tires and drive less eat less and wear sweaters. Its time to make reparations to Barry for all he has suffered on our behalf and make him filthy rich like Opera.
Many people who vote in the general election really don’t pay that much attention during the primaries (even though there were record turnouts, I can’t say that I’ve encountered a lot of people willing to engage in political conversations, or that seem to have been really following the candidates). I have a feeling that as more average, regular working class voters start paying attention, they are going to say who does this guy (Obama) think he is.
My husband and I each pay at least $60 a week on gas, and he’s suggesting that we check to see if our tires are properly inflated (never mind that both our vehicles have sensors which tell us if a tire becomes improperly inflated). It cost us about a $1,000 each time we filled our propane heating tank during the winter, and we resorted to using an electric space heater at times because we couldn’t afford to keep the house warm enough to be comfortable … and he’s telling us that Americans not only eat too much but keep their homes too warm in the winter (and too cold in the summer). We chose to cut back by not taking a vacation this year … and he’s on his second family vacation of the year.
Yeah, seems like the working class may have some problems identifying with this guy come November … and to many adults over the age of 40, all that Obama chanting is going to seem pretty creepy … in spite of all the media hype, to me he seems to have a problem showing empathy and connecting with average people … like telling a 7 year old this country isn’t what it once was … telling a crowd he doesn’t want his daughters punished with a baby … or worrying about the high price of argugula (he can’t speak without a TelePrompter to save his life, and ends up fumbling and saying something offensive and/or downright stupid).
Sammie… America was and still is a GREAT country. I was depressed and forlorn after Vietnam and then came Watergate, but the shining stars and the REAL REASON America will overcome this Obama speedbump are its people. People like Hillary and Larry Johnson, Suasan pc, Texasdarlin and also people that blog at NQ and other sites. As in other conflicts and tragedies, once we get our shit together, there is nothing we can`t overcome.
Harp Great comment……….
one person told me “that’s for the politicians to figure out” when I tried to discuss health care. These are the people who feel they have nothing to gain or lose regardless of who wins. But you can bet your ass if they did, they would care then. Many people say they are all the same so their vote doesn’t matter. i tell them, if everyone who said that would vote, IT WOULD MATTER.
I beg to differ with the headline, but Obama doesn’t forget the middle class. Rather, he doesn’t give a shit about the middle class. There’s a big difference.
With the outbreak of war in the Caucasus, now more than ever, we need Barack Obama as president. As a citizen of thew world, Barack Obama is uniquely in position to end the cycle of violence and war. He will bring peace in Iraq, Palestine, and now the Caucasus, as he has promised to do. He will sit down and talk to all the world leaders and end conflict peacefully. Contrast that with McCain, who prefers war as the first option. Leadership, judgment, trust, Obama.
Taken up comedy, huh, Freedumb? You should do stand up on a street corner on Skid f’ing Row.
We all know about the Citizen of the World position:
Bent forward at waist, grabbing ankles
Snark…right?
Freedumb “Fighter” is an Anchovy troll as well as a talking mule troll.
I thought that smell was familiar.
He’s a right winger with schtick bot.
(At least he memorized the talking points, most bots come to NQ and Hem and Haw the O-hole nonsense.)
O-hole? ROFL.
“Freedom Fighter” – can’t be sure if you’re serious or if your post is snark. After the hilarious video from yesterday of the two supposed bots calling for “blogging against racism,” the line between real bots and parody of real bots is very definitely blurred, if not completely obliterated.
So, if that was snark, good one!
But, if you’re a bot, Freedom Fighter, then you’re a bad one, and you’re certainly a bad troll – as you only confirm what everyone knows about bots and their idiot “messiah” – spit takes all around!
Would you like to elaborate on this? How is he in a unique position? All he is is talk. He certainly hasn’t been able to unite the democratic party – just how do you think he will be able to bring together the world and settle all of this just by talking – does he have some magic wand he is going to wave over all the nations and then they will say – Oh yes, I see now – Obama is the way. Give me a break. Do you actually have any idea how foolish you sound?
So, let’s see, “Freedom Fighter,” the “talk” will go something like this:
BAMBI: “Uh uh um…Is the uh reason uh you don’t wanna talk to me because uh um I don’t look like the other faces on the money? Those ‘other people’ uh um are just tryin’ to hoodwink you – uh bamboozle you – that’s something I’d um uh uh like to have a debate about – only not now, without my teleprompter and without MY MEDIA present. You uh seem down – seem to be clinging to your guns – that’s what causes war, ya know – uh um – I will place my hand on you and cure you with the sage wisdom I impart – inflate your tires and learn another language! Uh um um…I think my work is done here. High fives…”
Okaaay. How much satire and sarcasm did you learn at school small one? You need a bit more practice. I know you don’t believe what you just wrote so my guess is you want the attention from anti Obama people like us. Much better if you just join us. You will get much more positive results.
Yeah….that war really shut down quick after Obama issued his Sacramento statement on the way to his vacation. I bet Russia was shaking in it’s boots now that Obama weighed in.
They pulled out because didn’t want to upset The One because he might get stern with them.
Oh wait…it’s still going on.
LOL.
Obama will look into the eyes of Medvedev and Medvedev will remove the Russian Army from Georgia.
He will say kind words to the Hammas leaders and they will stop blowing up inocent civilians in Israel. He will sit down with Ahmedinajad for a coffe and Iran will stop enriching uranium. He will give a speech in Darfur and the crazed murderers will put down the weapons, go home to their families and will hold fair democratic elections and pay reparations to those who suffered by their hand. Than there is China, North Korea, where he probably has to have a tea with the leaders to convince them to change their ways. It is a very bright future for the whole Universe.
Wow freedom fighter, put the comic books away for a minute. Your remarks are the biggest pile of dumbass-ery I have seen yet from an O-bot.
Good god, are you kidding with that crap?
Citizen of the world? Just what the hell does that little piece of vaguery even mean? How is Obama a citizen of the world? Is there some government organization the rest of us don’t know about? Oh, you just mean he is more open, more receptive to other people and cultures right? Bullshit! What a load of pompous malarkey.
Right, he can do that because as we know from kindergarten, all wars are simply a misunderstanding between people who haven’t gotten to know each other.
JESUS-H-CHRIST-ON-A-POGO-STICK!
Grow up! Read a damn book!
You can not appease a country’s quest for natural resources with hugs and kittens.
Were you home schooled?
I think Nixon referred to us as the “Silent Majority”, and there is quiet a large one at this time. My father in his late 70’s is fed up and will vote Republican for the first time in his life. He is a mod-liberal northern Californian, which speaks volumes to me. AS he explains it, there is no reason for the Democrats to have gotten in the way of themselves during this primary/election season, but they did all in the name of what appears to be trying to make history instead of winning the election/. He also had enough of the race baiting, and was discouraged to see how far the media went with what was “important” during the primaries.I agree with my father 100%. It is common opinion amongst his friends as well.
I posted this on another thread early this morning and I will say it again:
The O campaign and supporters take the task of hitting reputation and creating assumptions, about (these weren’t that long ago) whites in general, women in general, specifically middle aged women, then finally defined as Hillary supporters. Next, blue haired women in general, older people in general, which then made the leap to John McCain being too old. Finally, racists in general, then low income, low education, southern in general, then specifically, Virginia, Kentucky, TN, excluding specifically, NC (so they could feel good about not being “racists).
It’s an old trick in the courtroom, sweeping generalizations(the bell is rung), enforcing stereotypes, and division, creating a fear of the historical past repeating itself, yet using the very methods of prejudice and racism to achieve the results.
I agree keep to our facts, and also defend ourselves, but I always am suspicious of the trolls who pose as NQ posters, so they can create what looks like we wrote something that can be used as a tool against non-obama supporters, they do this on every anti-obama thread. So while we work at staying honest factual, be aware, some pose in alliance here, and are really in disguise.
Finally, I won’t stray from facts, but I also won’t put up with being attacked anymore from O trolls.
Well said.
Thanks Harp. There has been much to consider regarding the primaries and now general election. Senator McCain, will have my vote, and I admit, I am not in agreement on all issues, but he is on the mark in reaching out to all the voters. And, his military record does speak volumes to those of us who have families that have served and still serve.
For the dems, there is nothing that is familiar or understandable beyond doing anything at this point to try and win an election.
As a veteran of that shitty little “police action” in Vietnam, I concur. Most of his support come from kids who would cry if they can`t get their Flinstone band-aid on a boo-boo.
I don’t like Obama but this is plain crap
but now great swaths of working America are starting to pay attention and the candidate speaking to the concerns of the working class, ironically enough, is the Republican nominee.
McCain is not speaking to me. I know he is Bush’s third term and I will not support that or him. If I can’t vote for Obama then I will not vote for President but rather vote down ticket only.
Oblahblah would be a Bush third term. I’ll take my chances with McCain. And no democrat will ever get my vote again until the DNC and Rules Committee are fired for cause. A good house-cleaning is in order.
Padre -
did you miss the part where you were canonized?
McCain doesn’t speak to me either and I’m a Republican. However, he can just stand there until the Nov 4th election without saying a word and I will still vote for him.
Obama is that freaking dangerous. You would think Obama could get his head out of his ass long enough to realize that he should be slaughtering McCain in the polls nationally.
Those members of my family that are Democrats are voting for McCain and a straight Republican ticket otherwise. This is the legacy of Barack Obama–unifying America against him.
I get the feeling Padre Pio is a “pretend Catholic” troll trying to induce Catholic anti-Obama democrats to abstain from voting the top of the ticket.
(Catholics know that Padre Pio is now a saint. It was a pretty big deal.)
FF, you are high on kool-aid. As a citizen of the world?
What does that even mean? Mac does not prefer war. And you just sound foolish bashing someone with lies. unlike you he served his country.
He served longer as a POW than obama has as a US sen.
When Russia invaeded OIbama gave a weak statement. Now he is following Mccains lead on the issue.
Judgement? What judgement? He opposed Iraq? So what?
You forget history my friend. You forget Clinton bombed them and would have went in were he not caught with his pants down. Do you forget the 300,000 of his own murdered by him with chemical weapons?
We are doing an honorable thing there. No matter how many troops we put in Afghanistan it will not matter until Pakistan does its job.
Save the talking points. Obama is a joke. So are you if you think you can trust someone who has lied his way to power and burned every bridge on his way there.
Before you say what lies. You damn well know.
He is a fraud and praying on desperate poeple like you sick of GWB.
I honestly feel sorry for you.
The “working class” Americans are the TRUE Americans! They know from birth what this country offers!
No where else on this planet can people attain their goals, with enough hard work!
The “silver spoon” crowds don’t have to reach for anything…it’s there for the taking!
The “O” will come up a “day late and a dollar short” with us!
well padre, you are wasting a vote by doing nothing. If you do not vote against obama then you are not fulfilling your democratic duty to our country. Or vote against Mac.
Also, are you sure you want a filibuster proof lame duck congress filled with the dems who brought us all this mess?
The dems have had power for 2 years and if you do the history that is when we really started to slide in our shit.
Fancy nancy is a wreck of a leader.
The republicans need to hit that talking point hard for down ticket races.
Really the Dems have had control for 2 yars.
The Economy has gone into the shitter over that time period.
Bud you are so right-it burns!
Obama is at it again. CNN online is reporting obama will announce his vp pick via text message-how absolutely latte liberal of him and stupid too. When i first read the headline “obama to text vp pick” the first thing I thought all style no substance.
Texting the vp pick is not needed and no value added; it is just more icing on top of a nonexisting cake; it just more bark no dog; it is just more all talk no action.
PUMA.
The NYT continues to attack Clinton as if she is the nominee
Today’s article covered a feature from Atlantic Monthly that gave email exchanges during the primary campaign. Penn apparently wanted to concentrate on Obama’s atypical Hawaii/Indonesia background.
I wonder why they don’t reveal exchanges within the Obama campaign. I’m sure there would be a trove on how to smear Clinton as racist.
Monday, August 11, 2008
Centrist voters are tilting from Obama
Ralph Z. Hallow (Contact)
Sen. Barack Obama is doing what Republicans once thought only a presidential candidacy by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could do – uniting the right and center.
State Republican Party leaders interviewed by The Washington Times said fear of a far-left Obama presidency is warming once-skeptical voters to Sen. John McCain, fueling growing enthusiasm among Republicans that Mr. McCain’s more aggressive campaigning can lead to victory.
“It appears that the more that Obama speaks, the more afraid folks in South Carolina get,” said Spartanburg County Republican Party Chairman Rick Beltram. “We are seeing ‘die-hard’ Democrats tell us that Obama is not their man.
“We are expecting the white Democrats to be fleeing the Democratic ship when November 4 comes around – plus, the Democratic candidate [Bob Conley] that is running against Senator [Lindsey] Graham is also running away from the Democrats, and you can quote me on that,” Mr. Beltram said.
In union-dominated Michigan, a state targeted by both major parties, state Republican Party Chairman Saul Anuzis said he is seeing signs that independents and Reagan Democrats are moving toward Mr. McCain.
“People who may have been apprehensive about McCain now see this race as potentially winnable,” Mr. Anuzis said.
-=snip=-
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/11/centrist-voters-tilt-from-obama/
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
The commercial would be more compelling if it had any citations at all. Considering it doesn’t, one wonders if the information is true at all. (It isn’t, by the way.) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fbxpMw4mco)
This will be my first time voting for a Republican President as well. Not only that, MY MOTHER in Florida, My Uncle in Florida, my sister in Ohio, my other sister in Georgia, my mother’s highschool best friend and her husband in Pennsylvania, etc. My mothers best friends husband warned her when he was seeing the signs just after voting for Hillary in Pennsylvania’s primary telling her “if the Democrats have Obama as the nominee, this will be the first time in his life he voted for a Republican. He came from the same small town I grew up in, Steel Mills, Blue Collar, MIDDLE CLASS. I don’t think there’s enough Democrats that will just vote for anyone that wears a D next to their name. We actually have a brain, ears and eyes, so we can think hear and see for ourselves.
Sen Obama has, in the past, not concerned himself with the economic well being of the poor or middle class in our country.
Look at his voting record.
http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_Obama_Craze_Count_Me_Out_5413.html
And its going to get worse for our country …but Sen obama has been preparing us for this in his speeches…
http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/1497.html
please learn more about Z Brzezinski’s past actions…and his LONG relationship to Sen Obama going back over 20 years…
Especially review Brzezinski’s goals (past,present and future) with regards to Russia.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showpost.php?p=396421&postcount=1
Sen Obama’s foreign travels-which he REFUSES to discuss today…and why this information is important for voters to know about-Its not about religious hate…its about making sure we don’t support a candidate who has no personal integrity and who has a HIGHLY secretive background…
[...] H/T: NoQuarterUSA [...]
yes the add is true. Obama did vote to raise taxes on that income. His cap gains tax would raise taxes on anyone with an investment.
Wal-mart for exampl offers its workers the chance to buy stock. Those who work at the store make minmum wage. So if they own stock they get banged with his 15% increase he plans.
Yes, Obama is going to raise taxes on everyone.
He has to have some way to fund his civillian security force andglobal poverty act.
Just because he says he will give tax breaks does not mean it is worth it.
Do you think it is fair to windfall oil companys and give the money to low-income poeple who do not pay taxes? that is part of his plan.
The oil companys have a profit margin of 8%. Google has one of 25%. Should he windfall google? Once he does it to one company, what is to stop him from stealing profits from ANY company?
His plans are disasterous domestically. Every company will want to move their businesses to another country. We already have the highest corporate tax in the world. You think jobs are going oversee’s now. Wait til god forbid, an obama presidency.
In the communist Hungary there was a set limit to define ‘decent’ and ‘indecent’ profit. If my memory serves me well, it was set to 20%.
McCain would be smart to keep pressing the issue of taxes and Obama’s grand scheme of income redistribution. There are a lot of us who will be considered rich and therefore taxed to the hilt by Obama if he becomes POTUS. I’m a single person living in San Francisco and make over 100K. But I, and many of my friends in the same situation, are not rich by any means. The cost of living here is insane, couple that with steep federal income tax that we pay and you can understand our anger when we’re asked to participate in an income redistribution scheme. McCain can gain some traction here in California if he continues to expose Obama for the Marxist that he is, and make Obama spend time campaigning in the SF Bay Area. Yes, we tend to be liberal on social issues but we also vote with our economic interests in mind. How do you think Schwartzenegger got into office?
I’m a moderate Independent who fully supported Hillary during the primary (and even now of course). There are more of us here than the media would have you believe, partly because we work and are not on the streets bullying people into supporting the Messiah. Yes, Obama has paid thugs patrolling and irritating tourists and shoppers alike near Market Street/ Union Square. I’ve had a couple of interesting debates with them.
My father lives outside of the city, but had noticed the paid thugs as well, and won’t respond to them. His senior friends felt that same intimidation, saying they sound like crazy people, which is quite a remark from a lifelong post San Franciscan resident.
Obama has two vacations while running for Presideent.
Dubya- “Now watch this drive…”
Obama- ‘Now watch this drivel?’
Another very good posting. Thanks Bud.
HRC2012.
On the topic of taxation the most revealing thing Obama said was to ABC’s Charles Gibson. Obama said he didn’t care if raising cap gains taxes resulted in LESS revenue coming into the treasury, the whole issue was just about “FAIRNESS”. So a 72 yr old lady with a husband who worked all his life & paid taxes but now has alzheimers & 80K in CDs should pay 10%+ more in taxes so she’s more inline with a 25 yr old welfare mother who’s never had a job. Obama equates anyone with savings/investments with a 10 million dollar a yr hedge fund manager. Anyone in the middle class who falls for his bs deserves what they get. He’s quit talking about “austerity” & “sacrifice” lately but it’s still part of his twisted agenda. His 10% tax increase won’t phase the uber rich but it’ll bring some real pain to the middle class. Historically a % of GDP went to infastructure, well he wants to send that $$$$$ to the UN for Africa, so I guess we can pay more for infastructure too.
I hope he loses like nothing else. I hope that the forgotten working class realize that Obama has forgotten them.
Great ad!
McCain’s campaign has found Obamarama’s Achiles’ heel and they’re exploiting it to their fullest advantage!
Barry, sweetie, you’ve had your BRITNEY MOMENT…now get ready for the battles…..
Pumas, go crack the DNC ceiling….obamites must see the Light in November!
Bud White
congrats!
This was one of the best reads, thoughtful, insightfully written, pieces I’ve read here–although I love them all at NoQuarter!!
Loved “our tires will spontaneously inflate..and the Earth will begin to heal”….amen bro!
Your comment that it’s “ironic that McCain speaks for the working class” is sadly true….With Hillary out of the picture, the two bimbos will offer us this choice:
Vote for either:
a) The Bumbling Fool
b) The Stuttering Fool
Hillary where are you when we need you, girl!?
Pumas, go roar and crack the ceiling in November!
how can You be so suprise about Obama ignoring Middle Class, ans people in poverty!!!!??
He never care, His remarcs about us, are so clear, than no one should be suprise. Young and naive, and educated who fergot how is to be POOR!!!
Those with aducation, fergot who gives then a change to get education, mostly Middle Class paretnt did. Now, they are supporting someone, who will take from those parents, and feel wallets of those who have so much, but become so greedy, so need more. Obama will flip His finger on a Middle Class, He can not stand US. His own passis about HIM, and now He is proving, that it is all about HIM!!!He hates whites, but He needs them, and they look stupid, jumpimng all over Obama, like pinguins in suits!!!
[...] after Obama’s grandiose trip to Europe, I wrote: “I think Obama would have been wise to go somewhere he lost big, like West Virginia, leaving [...]
[...] after Obama’s grandiose trip to Europe, I wrote: “I think Obama would have been wise to go somewhere he lost big, like West Virginia, leaving [...]