The Dysfunctional Obama
By Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on August 11, 2008 at 10:53 AM in Barack Obama
What’s the deal with Barack Obama slipping to see his grandmother without his wife and children? The woman who really raised him gets to see him for an hour. She doesn’t see his children, her great-grandchildren, possibly the last time she might be able to see them. And the wife, Michelle, is AWOL.
What is going on here? If this were any other candidate serious questions would be asked about how he treats his family, especially for a candidate whose campaign is based on the storyline of his extraordinary personal history.
Is it Obama himself who doesn’t want his wife and children to see his grandmother, whom he dismissively called a “typical white person”? Or is it Michelle? Does she want nothing to do with the woman who raised her husband? Why does she keep her children away from their great-grandmother? Or does she cooperate with her husband in keeping them away?
One thing we know is that it is highly unlikely that it is the grandmother who doesn’t want to see her great-grandchildren.
We can only conclude that Obama’s official narrative has a lot of missing chapters in it. And the press corps isn’t asking the questions he would naturally ask of any other presidential candidate under these sort of circumstances.
What kind of moral values lead Obama to treat his grandmother so shabbily? And what’s the real story behind the brief one hour visit without the wife and children? Why so short and why so lonely?
(small, medium and large sizes; for both dogs and cats)
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As I said in the last thread… if Obama isn’t his last name or if he wasn’t really born in Hawaii and Michelle and the kids don’t know this, then of course he wouldn’t want them to be there while he tells grandma that she better not tell the truth.
I think he did bring the kids another time.
But no Michelle is interesting.
Unlike the rest of us Michelle has the luxury of snubbing the in-law.
Maybe his grandmother is his sponsor and not really his grandmother. Or those couple of years he’s missing from Columbia? Maybe he was in jail for selling dope and that embarrassed the grandmother- you know wasting tuition money.)
However it really doesn’t matter, what does matter is that there are SO MANY IFS about everything, especially his past. And I cannot support such an IFFY candidate.
That is odd, a vacation and you leave the family at home? Alone, to visit family?
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Where is his family anyway? You hardly ever see anyone from his or Michele’s family anyplace near him that’s been noted by news media at least. Do they have any immediate family that’s helping out in the campaign or that are allowed to be interviewed? Just wondering.
OBAMA YES I AM YELLING WHOS GOT YOUR NUMBER? WHAT IS YOUR REAL ADOPTED NAME? JOHN MCCAIN KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!!! CHECK THIS OUT THIS IS PRICELESS!!!!!
MUST LOOK AT THIS NAME IT IS HIS REAL ADOPTED NAME! THE NAME FROM HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!! HOLY COW!
http://www.barrysoetoro.com/
uhhh uhhh…. this link goes to John McCain website! well… that might not be so bad…
You don’t have to hide who you are valsthewoman to have us check out McCains website.Infact it’s a good thing!We are Hillary supporters and will not vote bama even as a V.P tickey,nope will not.The thing is Obama isn’t fit.We Hillary supporters as well as McCain supporters know that.Thjat’s a good thing we all have in commen.
Hillary is a great and a strong person as we can see as she continies.But the thing is Obama thinks this will help him in getting Hillary’s supporters…Nope can vote Obama.
John McCain is another strong candidate as I see and have saw.It’s that I am not going to batch John McCain cause John McCain I like as well.But Hillary supporters-John McCain supporters can get along just fine.
I am for Hillary and well be till I see what happens At the Denver Convention.But I anm going McCain if it’s not Hilary.I will not let the democratic Party cheat us out of our will as they have been doing all along-Telling us to sit down and shut up.Well who gives them the right to comtrol who we voted for?They are there to do a job for our country and we saw that the democratic party -Donna Brazile-Howard Dean -Nancy Polosi-and few more to say can not even do their job-but instead they decided to control the people-their votes as in 1932 democratic party election did.And to up root the dnc to the mosr corrupted city is so unreal.Hawaii is another state.Look what Obama did th Chicago ILl.He left the people high and dry-He went with the corrupted underground Rezko-Bill Ayers and the list is so long.Anything he touches Obama destorys it.I am here fighting now just for myself but for my country to get the right person in Office.
If it’s Hillary or McCain I can say that our country will be in good hands!
Obama we will continue to go down hill till he takes and wipes it all out.What..He wants his own military forse.What is that for? Well I can say I don’t think it will be god for us! Maybe control for the next election of one and another corrupted friend buddy- and then we will be nolonger a country of our own-As Obama want’s 57 states and 10 years added to what.president.Is that how they run theirs in the other countrys/ Well maybe I don’t know but what I do know that presidents in others will not step down when loseing election they just say no and they can stay.That’s where we are headed to.Mark my words.Our children will pay and pay big!
Here’s your text Obama —GET LOST!
Hey, ME
I liked your post with which I agree 100% I too think Valsthewoman is a guy from McCain’s camp! But so what?
As pumas we should respect McCain ’cause he does respect Hillary and i got this quote from the book “The Case for Hillary Clinton” by Susan Estrich:
I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton is going to make a good president” — Sen. John McCain in Baghdad in 2005, with HRC, responding to Tim Russert, Meet the Press!
The respect is mutual. Now where the hell is the respect from the anorexic resume holder who starred in this youtube megahit:
“Obama Gives Hillary the Finger”–JayZ rapper routine by Barry scratching his cheek, smirking and waiting for his vengeful performance to catch on with his followers! It ain’t funny, Barry!
Barry, sweetie, you’ll pay dearly for your misogynist sins come November when we beat the shit out of you and you see the light from the exploded DNC ceiling, asshole!
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t this why he said he was making the trip in the first place, so his grandparents could see his children. Another lie to the American people?
I believe his meeting with his “grandmother” had to do with his BC. that’s why he could not bring his children. of course, not that he cares!! I am prety sure, it was all about his BC.
He took the whole family.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Barack-Obama/ss/events/pl/020807obama;_ylt=AuCV6fcHhwGQ3FkbzTr9hI.yFz4D#photoViewer=/080810/480/6db069706309444c8d8d726dfa365fef
Once again, NQ spreads lies.
I don’t see Hawaii in that carefully cropped image.
The press corp that went along with him to Whitey Grammy’s apartment said he went along…Picture standing in the doorway of the elevator at W.Grammy’s apartment…no MEchille or kiddies.
I think since Obama called his typical white grandmom racist, he probably is afraid she will say something racist to his girls (snark) Nah, I bet he has things to talk to Granny about he doesn’t want little ears to hear that might innocently repeat things, he does not want out.
Didn’t he say before he wetn, he has to go see Granny because it has been 18 months and the girls haven’t seen her for a while? hey maybe he is afraid what the girls will say to Granny after sitting in TUCC all thise years hearing how terrible white people are
He had to ask granny if there was anyone else in the family that he needs to throw under the bus after finding out whether or not they know anything about his birth certificate.
LOL! Damn that bus has to be the largest in the world as people left and right around Obama have been thrown under it. Getting very crowded under the “Discarded Obama Express”.
It’s OK. The tires are properly inflated. LOL.
Texas Darlin and NQ readers:
There is a site called “Fun Meme” with a “do it yourself” just like ob did, Hawaiian COLB download.
We can all be Hawaiian when we roast that pig.
She is nearly as tough as the Little Old From Pasadena…
If I`m not mistaken, thats twice granny has been thrown under the bus. Must be some kind of new record…. Go granny go.
That is some tough granny.
So much for DNA.
“missing chapters” is an understatement. Shelby Steele had Obama pegged months ago, but go very little press apart from the book talk covered on CSPAN.
The mainstream media hasn’t done squat on ACORN, either. They’re in trouble in NM and my post provides some links to the background on this outfit. There’s another youth/voter organization also in trouble, which seems to involve Bill Richardson vs. his attorney general. That will be posted tomorrow…
Part I: New Mexico “Progressive” Voter Registration Groups in Trouble: ACORN Again…Surprised??
http://tinyurl.com/6cfb6k
ACORN in trouble in WA too. And PA.
Oh, hi, Gram. I just stopped by to pick up that birth certificate you said you had. Which one? How about all of them? Uhhh… I need to cover up… I mean I need to cover… um… a lot of bases.
Where’s the family? Oh, they didn’t have time to come with me. Ummm… They’re busy at the courthouse, getting some, uh, paperwork.
Barry, honey, that’s fine. Frankly, I don’t like it when Michelle calls me Grandma Whitey anyway.
Barry honey, Why do you keep calling yourself Obama? It was cute when you were being potty trained, but you’re grown up now.
bwahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
ohh..grany why don’t you just give the BC and I’ll be on way out.
The only way you can “conclude that Obama’s official narrative has a lot of missing chapters in it” is to already be biased against it. Am I the only one on here who believes that this week will be full of opportunities for her to spend time with her great-grandchildren? Isn’t this just another attempt to cloud the debate by engaging in even more logical fallacies in order to destroy a presidential candidate some people don’t happen to like?
If you want to argue, then argue the points as to why Obama should not be the country’s first choice as president. Arguing this kind of stuff is just plain silly.
It goes to his character - or lack of character.
Is it silly? It says a lot about the man who does not travel with his wife and children to go visit one of his relatives. There is animosity there, or at least a staggering amount of indifference and disrespect. It is a pattern with him, and it makes it very difficult to trust someone who treats his family this way. Why should non-family members trust him if he cannot even sustain a loving relationship with his family?
So seeing his grandmother by himself once, when his kids will have plenty of times during the week automatically makes him unloving?
Staggering leap of logic there. I’ve seen absolutely nothing that suggests that Obama does not have a loving relationship with his family.
@SEC…. I’ve seen absolutely nothing that suggests….
Exactly, we’ve seen nothing, Obama is the most non-transparent, un-vetted, don’t ask me any questions or I’ll call you a racist, candidate in history.
Hussein Obama has time to visit his typically white grandmother alone, without family members and cameras, but he has to diss the wounded troups in Germany because he can’t go by himself without cameras.
Explain that one…
fuck you racist.
Some reasons you may be a racist, according to Obama and his supporters:
1.
uhh, no. gratuitous use of obama’s middle name and use of the “word” obamislamists. even if there were some reason to believe obama is muslim, what is wrong with that? the commenter has demonstrated his bigotry toward islam.
Did you complain when Obama was being ‘racist’ against Jews?
6. You support the only qualified democratic candidate, Hillary by leaving your go Hillary bumper stickers on your car you might be a racist.
There you go showing off your language skills again……..
“yaz” shows that he/she/it can borrow a page from “Beth”, who called us, “Racist Fucks”.
Love that screen name, btw. What’s next on the Rotation for screen names in the ObamaYoMamma boiler room?
“Vagisil?”
Try something Manly-Sounding, like, “Gold Bond.” Or, “Trojan.”
“yaz” jusy makes you sound like a, well, you know…
what does this even mean? yaz sounds like what? i can’t even fathom what your unhinged mind is imagining.
Yaz is a medication…look it up.
Shouldn’t it Be “Fuck You Whitey?”
That has been thoroughly debunked, even from the McCain camp.
liar
…sigh… I’ll just send you to http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html
LOL…when he couldn’t bring his campaign advisor Col to lean upon? That is why he didn’t see wounded vets in Germany?
Psst…it’s a common stop for US politicians when across the pond.
And he was fully aware of the policy since he JUST submitted to it in Iraq and Afghanistan. In other words. It WASN’T a surprise to him ya fool!
Just because you fell for that lie/excuse is your probelm…not the rest of us who know that it is a common stop in Europe. As well as a known policy.
Oh and one more thing, besides Obama.
Who the last politician who blew off Landstuhl…Democrat or Republican?
I literally can’t remember any politician who has done that….can you?
Be honest now…
I’ve seen absolutely nothing that suggests that Obama does have a loving relationship with his family. Take out one word and your statement is correct SEC. I am glad I do not have to defend the indefensible. Ayers, Rezko. Levine, NOI, FISA, TUCC, Dual Citizenship, stolen Michigan delegates, Sinclair, etc,.
Nobama!!
I’m surprised you haven’t read any of the articles written about him. After all, he is this big celebrity.
And does anyone really need to have to defend someone like Larry Sinclar? Ha.
Yeah, nice come back. You’re a brilliant BOT!
You mean one of the many manufactured articles telling us how ‘amazing’ Obama is?
Was it silly when the MSM did stories on Hillary’s v-neck top that showed a half inch of cleavage? Yes. THAT was silly. This; not so much.
Pontification from a terrified cultist!
Getting a bit nervous, eh? That’s why you’re here. There will be NO QUESTIONING of the Anointed One! No DISCUSSION!!! Shhhhhhhh!! Zip it!
He went to see Granny Cracker. He didn’t bring the kids.
Doesn’t make sense.
No matter how much you try to spin it. Or discourage discussion.
Her health is poor–she’s not going windsurfing with them. The kids have to come to her…and the only way that will happen is if Mr.
SoetoroWhoeverthehellheis brings them.Unless the Messiah and his Offspring are somehow able to teleport themselves in and out of Granny’s apartment without the press noticing….
Didn’t the Obamas stress they were going to Hawaii so the Obama kids could see their great grandmother??
Yes, he said something a few days ago about the reason for the trip was so that “those children” could see their great grandmother.
While he deals with his Birth Certificate problem.
The kids have to come to her…and they did, just as they will do throughout the vacation.
When did they come to her exactly?
I agree. He will be there for 8 days. His grandmothers health is failing and perhaps it was not a good time for the kids to stop by, but he wanted to spend just a little time with her. He LOVES his grandmother and she adores him. If you have ever seen them together you would STOP this foolishness and find something else to harp on.
This Country is in turmoil and all you idiots can worry about is how much time he spends with his grandmother. Americans are so easily distracted….
My grandfather’s heart was unstable electrically. Emotional situations, even ones like seeing his great-grandchildren, could cause an erratic heartbeat. We were all instructed to limit visits and try to keep the little kids away. Two groups of relatives with little kids did show up to visit him. He went to the kitchen for a glass of water to take his nitro and collapsed. We couldn’t revive him. So, its possible.
You bots need to go back to evil orange or other places that like him, We don’t . None of you koolaid drinkers could change our minds. so if you don’t like Obama slamming Change the fuckin’ channel!
Does Obama’s grandmother have and electronically unstable heart? That sounds bad.
Maybe he was bringing her a new microwave.
Have YOU seen them together? If not, your speculation makes you sound idealistically delusional.
Also, Americans are not easily distracted, we can remember many facts simultaneously..Obma’s flaws add up pretty quickly, this is just one more.
If you prefer to put your life and your family’s well being into the hands of someone who deliberately uses his own family for political posturing, while he blatantly insults the very people he seeks to SERVE, that speaks volumes about you.
You have a very loose definition of the word turmoil. From where I sit this country looks pretty fucking good. We have everything we could want. We have more luxuries than probably any other country. Entertainment, security, jobs, educational opportunities galore, plenty of food, water, etc. Every problem that we have is of our own making. Every single one. And why? Because we don’t come together and insist on some universals like quality health care for everyone, affordable quality housing for everyone, a society free from bigotry and discrimination (I am talking about members of GLBT more than anyone else), and freedom from an oil based society. We can solve everyone of these issues. However, I don’t see how any lameass politician like Obama can do anything about any of this. Throwing money at our problems hasn’t ever worked and apparently never will. We need real solutions for these issues. Solutions that don’t subtract from all of the wonderful attributes of this society. Turmoil, hardly. Problems yes. Solvable problems. Want turmoil see Haiti.
how do you know this?
not this time…When did you last see them togather ?
yes he was loving her when he threw her under da bus using her to call all the older white folk racist eh? the typical white folk like granny eh?
gimme a break
Have you seen them together and if so where and when?
and when have you seen them together?
There is a really serious world situation going on that’s getting worse by the minute. JMc. has been front and center about it. Where is Bambi? Playing in the surf. He has had one soft statement put out about so far that I have read. Yeah, he’s ready to be CIC alright. It is scary how disconnected he is about the real world.
Oh, don’t forget, he played golf too….practicing to be CIC ala GWB.
We all have some baggage from our childhood, Obama has more than most. Obama was abandoned by both of his parents at different times and it has damaged him beyond repair. It made Obama into a “People pleaser”, that is why he can’t make choices, this is something he avoids, that is why he voted “Present” over 130 times in the State House and why he CLAIMS he hit the WRONG BUTTON 6 TIMES on tough votes. John McCain called Obama out 2 weeks ago for his COWARDICE for REFUSING TO VOTE on the Senate Resolution Condemning MoveOn.org for their Gen. Betrayus Ad. Obama was in the building but wouldn’t DECIDE. A couple weeks ago Obama was interviewed by Fareed Zakaria.(CNN Newsweek) He asked Obama what he remembered most about living in Indonesia, Obama said “It was when my Mother told me she married a man from Indonesia and we were moving there”. He remembers that like it was yesterday. People that come from very dysfunctional homes, drug or alcohol use, bad family situation, etc usually come out with damage they carry for life.
Awww poor bwarry… Shit he had verything handed to him on a platter, including Affirm Action… I think he is just a SPOILED BRAT!
I believe there was a problem with Bill Clinton’s stepfather too. Probably that caused him to make sound economic policies, work hard, never quit, fight the legal troubles and still do a very good job as President.
Obama is an adult. It is up to him to change. Childhood troubles are no excuse. If he couldn’t get over them by now, he needs professional help, not nomination for presidency.
so he needs child psychologist!! and it’s OK , just he can’t be president !!!! perhaps his grany could convinced this domaged childish ass that he needs to take care of his psych before he thinks of becoming a president! so pathetic!!
Its about knowing who you are trusting your country with… It’s called being RESPONSIBLE… you idiot!
So much for DNA.
SEC …
Am I the only one on here who believes that this week will be full of opportunities for her to spend time with her great-grandchildren?
Even if you were the only one, it does not mean that they will.
If BS can make it so Great Granny is comfortable then BS is an asshole. Atleasthe could have taken his oldest daughter. But that is not what BS the Bigot is about anyway.
If BS can’t , (more coffe warden?)
I guess Obama figures since Granny has water and a tv unlike his Kenyan Step grandmom, she should be happy
Honestly, these kids are probably just as racist as their mother. If they are than maybe they just don’t care to see her.What a shame if they are raising their children this way.How is the soul supposed to heal when you keep breeding hate?
They may be ashamed of each other. Maybe the Grandmother doesn’t want anything to do with bho. He isn’t the most loving family oriented person in the world.
Obama is a FRAUD, a liar and a thief.
He is a gimmick, a facade, a front man for
Soros, Auchi, Bzrezinski and whomever would like to use this nations treasure for their own purposes.
He also possesses a clinical case of
Narcissistic Personality Disorder which will bear itself out in time.
He relies on intimidation or payola or illusion
as a basis of support.
He has NO respect for women, the gay and lesbian community or any traditional democratic values.
He has NO respect for the democratic process or the value of the individuals vote and right to be heard.
He has no problem parsing the electorate into factions to be used and divided against each other for his personal advantage.
He is a classic Con Man, and has duped the public at large.
Obama is only about Obama, and that is the only
attribute that can be depended on.
He is ashamed of America and has difficulty relating to the common man.
He is dangerously inexperienced in foreign affairs,
and is reckless with his comments.
He and his supporters have no tolerance for a dissenting opinion or free speech.
He is a puppet for others, and doesn’t mind being so.
In short, he cannot be trusted.
Not what I am looking for in a President.
Bill Richardson says Obama’s “special”…a once in a lifetime candidate or maybe it was a once in a generation candidate.
What does he know that the rest of us don’t?
I wonder why Richardson grew that ridiculous looking goatee. Was he thinking of casting a hypnotic spell over the voters. It won’t help, Bill. You have no magnetic charms whatsoever.
And if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate this puppetman, then you and your goatee will get flushed down the toilet with him.
I ahve only one thing to say to posters moi61537, not this time, and SEC, that is :
http://www.BarrySoetoro.com
ROFLMFAO
It’s just because Obama is part black. Anyone can became special if they have the entire corporate media telling the world you are special.
Amen brother. Tell us how you really feel.Great observations…. I totally agree with all of them.
Perhaps he doesn’t really trust Michelle, and he wanted to feel his Grandmother out to see if she would tell his tale the way he wanted it told? Maybe got her to sign an affidavit as to his birth?
Did he have private time with her or was it an photo op?
Another donor from Gaza named Osama
Obama new about the Gaza donations, received letters from FEC.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
If Obama is taking a week for “vacation”, he should be spending 24/7 with his kids. It doesn’t seem like he’s seen much of them during his vacation.
This is the article in the Hawaii paper…..many of the comments would fit in here. Seems he has a problem on his home turf too.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/09/news/story04.html
Look at that picture, too. Look at the smirk. Look at the pose. I would love for a body language expert to give us the low down on what it all means.
What’s wrong with you people??? You need someone to analyze a picture for you??? Are you blind or something…jeeesh
Comment by not this time | 2008-08-11 11:39:15
What’s wrong with you people??? You need someone to analyze a picture for you??? Are you blind or something…jeeesh
Analyze this http://www.BarrySoetoro.com
The Republicans are on it! Excellent.
bert Don’t you mean on the “down low?”
It sounds like he is ashameded of her… WHat an ass!
In Michelle’s eyes, Barry’s grandmother is an evil “Whitey”
“Guess whos coming to dinner” in reverse.
He is a fool to not understand that had it not been for the whitey grandparents, he would not be standing where he is today.
It is because of them, not his mother who was off doing her own thing that he has come this far. Who paid for his schooling in HA?? Who paid for his maintenance and upkeep while he went to school? Thoughtless turd.
Here’s the link. You are lying again, Larry.
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=7511
He has already visited once with the girls, and once by himself. Ooohhhh, what a scandal!
Please start talking about foreign policy again. Isn’t there a war between Russia and Georgia? I would love to hear what you think about it.
No pictures? If true it is only a reaction to the negative buzz he initially created.
Besides Francis, you sound bitter. What are you clinging to?
Here are the pictures as promised.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/10/news/story02.html
Are you sure they’re not leaving the golf course
Not unless they allow minivans on the fairways.
BTW, WTF does it matter? He played golf in the morning, then went to see his grandma in the afternoon. So what…that proves he hates America!!!!
Larry’s post has already been disproved by the facts. You’ve lost this round. Pick up your weapon and live to fight another day.
It matters because the trip was just a front for his BC.
You already know what we think. Obama is not prepared, informed or qualified to be of any use, let alone lead our country through, the crisis involving Russia. Which statement did you fail to read, Obama’s milk toast garbage or McCain’s informed and direct stand?
Is that you braying again, Jughead?
Obama and his girls spent more time driving there then he did actually visiting. I’m sure their fine dining experience close by wasn’t a draw for stopping by Grandma’s?
Since Alan Wong’s seems to be close by. Can’t haul the kids that close to Grandma without some face time. Nevermind it is less than a half an hour AND did she actually have to ask Obama to see her great-grankids the day before? Once again…why couldn’t Michelle go since this was the family visit?
UGH!
From your link…
“Obama left the course around 5:30 p.m. After a quick stop at home, his motorcade left for Honolulu about 6:15 p.m.
The party arrived about 6:50 p.m. at the Punahou-area residence of his grandmother, 85-year-old Madelyn Dunham.
Obama, wife Michelle and daughters Malia, 10, and Sasha, 7, paid a brief visit before heading to Alan Wong’s restaurant nearby at 7:15 p.m. Obama carried a gift basket, and Malia Obama carried a few books, up to the apartment.”
oops…my bad…Michelle was there.
Well less than a half an hour visit for three relatives.
Isn’t that special?
A local Hawaiian website over the weekend did have a photo of Obama and his daughter’s going to see Granny- he was carrying one of his daughter and the other was a few steps behind..they were outside of her apartment building going in
What a terrific reporter…he only mis-spelled “waved”..twice. Sheeesh
“He was not accompanied by his wife, Michelle, and two daughters.”
Same online newspaper, two different stories. Which is correct? Barry sure looks alone on that elevator. My guess is the version with his kids is the the Obama redo.
Yep, like the fake re-do of his 2002 speech.
Then why was the story about visiting grandma with the girls printed the day before? Is it possible (I know…stay with me) that he went to see grandma TWICE?
Once alone, and once with the girls?
BTW, all of you so called “feminist” should really take a look at some of the previous posts the last 2 days, and ask yourself if referring to Michelle Obama as “Queen Kong” and a “transvestite” upholds the highest standards of the feminist movement.
Or do you only save your charges of misogyny for when older white women are wronged?
Heh…
SusanWho thinks “laborpains.org” is a “pro-union, pro-labor” website, so what makes you think this cesspool has any interests in consistency?
When it comes to bunk and BS - this site is clearly in the ‘quanity over quality’ realm.
Are you defending your messiah’s actions on that phone call?
Besides, who brings the press to a visit with Grandma? Obama is a fruad and you know it.
I doubting the veracity of a post whose sourcing relies on what is an unabashedly ANTI-union website — especially when said post laughably tries to pass said source off as “pro-union/pro-labor”.
I mean…. you don’t even need to get past the first page of the google search results for all but the dimmest of bulbs to recognize the site for what is — nothing but an astro-turf cover group for union busting big business interests.
Or is it just coincidence that all it seems to do is attack unions, union-supportive candidates, etc?
Give me a reliable source and I’ll be happy to debate it…
That’s funny! You mean the same big businesses that have funded Barrack Obama’s entire campaign? LOL
Sure it’s possible. LOL but those photos you provided aren’t evidense.
You forgot, “Sasquatch,” and “gargoyle.”
And snide references to the size of her behind, such as, “badonkadonk.”
As time passes, I’ll likely think up more.
You’re welcome.
OOPS! Almost forgot, “Winnie Mandela!”
That one may cut closest to home. An excellent analogy, I’m afraid. At least nelson knew enough to cut her loose.
Francis,
Where did you read that? I would like to see it.
You wanted citations, here you go. These are just from the last 24 hours.
Obama’s Impending Pearl Harbor by Larry Johnson
Comment by karen for Clinton | 2008-08-10 06:05:54
If the fascists at the DNC push this unelectable man to a win in Denver, the whole country will be red on election night, GOP red not ob’s favored commie red.
Also, Manning has grown on me. The man speaks to the truth and makes me lol. Coconut juice, King Kong, “son of Hitler”, he’s a comedian pastor.
Barky Visits Typical White Grandmother by Uppity Woman
Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-08-11 10:54:39
Re “Best Of Manning”… I almost fell off my chair when he launched into the tirade about MO’s looks! He said she looks like King Kongs little sister! Gee… I think the good Rev doesn’t like the obamas!!
Comment by Steve | 2008-08-10 14:24:34
Hey maybe granny doesn’t like being related, by marriage, to King Kong’s baby sister.
I’m not surprised by these racists and mysoginist comments. Every website are their share of lunatics and freaks who want to “contribute”. What is disturbing is NOBODY on No Quarter finds this nonsense offensive, or has the courage to tell these people off.
So I ask again, where is the outrage, Hillary supporters?
Gee…gosh…I guess I can only say, “Just messin’ with ya”
These are all references to Rev. Manning’s remarks. The good reverend doesn’t like the Obamas and in his opinion Michelle is not pretty. His main complaint is that Michelle is too tall to his taste to be considered pretty.
He uses very strong words if he describes something that he strongly likes or dislikes.
If you listen to him, you have to disregard that part and what is left, most of the time makes a lot of sense.
However Reverend Manning is not a blogger on this site. We didn’t make those remarks. Some of us only talked about those remarks.
Are we there already when certain topics are forbidden or else? I had the impression that Obama wants to introduce us to cenzorship once he became President.
Your attempt to pin this on us has failed. If you think Revered Manning is racist against AA-s, please take it to him.
If you listen to him, you have to disregard that part and what is left, most of the time makes a lot of sense.
Gee one could make the same argument about Rev. Wright, no?
This is exactly why I don’t listen to Rev Manning.
And if you’re smart, you’ll take this AA’s word for it.
Manning is a self-hating black man. He has just as many issues as 0bama. Trust me, the only people here in NYC who take Manning seriously are his pathetic parishioners.
That Manning would make a comment like that as a black man shows you he’s a couple cans short of a six-pack. Quoting him or getting involved with his self-hating rhetoric out of frustration and disgust with 0bama is a losing strategy.
Manning is an idiot who wants attention. Do yourself a favor: Don’t give it to him!
Francis,
I’ve called people out for making these statements. Assholes are everywhere. You should know since the Obamatons have many. Some of the things they said during the Primary about Hillary and Chelsea were just as disgusting. Among the many reasons why I don’t support 0bama.
But those comments don’t represent me and why I won’t vote for 0bama.
But the comments about Michelle’s physical appearance along racial lines really goes a long way toward validating the playing of the race card. If for no other reason, they should stop making them.
And they certainly should be removed from the website. But no matter what, I will not vote for 0bama.
Mimi- I can respect that.
As I have said many times on this website, there are plenty of legit reasons to dislike/not vote for Obama. Smart people can disagree on who is more qualified to hold the highest office in the land.
But questioning his citizenship (w/o proof); and floating rumors (again w/o proof) like gay limo sex and whitey tapes are IMHO, beneath the diginity of most of the people on this website.
Making racist and mysoginist statements about his wife, his dead mother and father, and his infirmed grandmother is UN-AMERICAN, and should be condemned by all of us, regardless of our preference for President.
Those comments were not “un-American”.
They are karmic payback.
Oh boy! Frightened Francis is here to “correct the record.”
He “briefly stopped by” with a basket and books–here kids, kiss the old bag, and let’s get the fuck outta here and go to dinner.
Bad, bad, grandson.
No matter how you try to spin it, Francis, our dedicated and very frightened troll, he’s neglecting the old woman. He’s “doing the minimum.”
Briefly stopping by and dumping off a few material items is not VISITING. Visiting is spending the day, maybe sending out for chinese food, watching a movie, baking cookies, looking at old photo albums…you know, the sorts of things that normal families do when they are blessed to have a great-grandparent still with them. And if Granny is up to it, you take her out–you get the wheelchair, you trundle her into the van, and go for a drive, maybe a nice meal. Housebound grannies just LOVE an outing, generally.
Starting to sweat, eh, Francis? You spend so much time here, obsessively, compulsively trying to make people stop discussing these negative realities.
They ARE realilties, too, Francis.
It really must suck to be you, Francis! So fearful, so earnest, so hypervigilant! To no avail, Francis. Your stomping and whining, why, it amuses.
god, you’re really a terrible person. his grandmother is apparently in failing health. we don’t know what that means or anything else about these people’s private family situation. yet when faced with evidence that he has seen her twice since being in hawaii, once with the whole family, you decide that he is “neglecting the old woman.” have you ever had an old, sick relative? you probably have; most of us have. it’s an awful, difficult situation and i’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone telling you how to demonstrate your love and compassion. your hatred is completely blinding you.
So old and sick that this is his first visit in 2 years?? Whatsamatter? Barry afraid to fly or something? No, the truth is he’s a user and he uses grandma and then tosses her aside. Then pulls her out again just before the convention for a couple of photo-ops.
i don’t know. my point is, we don’t know. but you are perfectly willing to make up some bullshit that neatly matches your unhinged hatred. have fun with that.
Obama has shown us his patterns. You are perfectly willing to excuse anything he does, so you have fun with that.
yaz is the brand name of a birth control pill, I hope you are using it.
lol! it didn’t work.
how do you know?
Oh, honey, you are too stupid to know you are.
Isn’t it naptime at O-bot HQ? Better run along or you’ll have to sit out your afternoon sign-a-long with Uncle David and Aunt Oprah.
It’s also slang for cocaine..another crack user supporting their role model perhaps.
I didn’t know that. I must be getting old. So much of what Obama says just gives me brain fog- *note to self- keep up with drug slang just in case Obabab gets to the WH..
I’m so sick of this everything Barry does is perfect. Yes, and that’s also why he couldn’t be there when his mother was dying even though he was notified it was time. It’s more compassionate to stay away from those dying people, can’t taint our hands with that dirt eh? It’s not like he couldn’t afford to be with his mother. And never mind that, that is the time they need us most to let them know it’s ok, we’re going to be ok. I spent everyday with my mother in law, all day and most of the night for over 2 months in ICU. I held her hand. I washed her feet. I exercised her legs. I cleaned her and changed her. I’ll never reget one moment of it. To be there for her for that short time, when she was there for me since the day I met her son. To know it was her that took care of my husband, loved and raised him into the man I came to know and love was a small sacrifice.
What was it Barry’s mother said on her deathbed? Oh that’s right Barry has a lot of things he has to work out in his own mind as she read his book and read how he felt about white people, and how lovingly he viewed his father. The man that was a drunk/spousal abuser/cheat that ran out on him when he was 2. It’s quite easy to idolize someone you never knew and make them into a hero because you don’t have to deal with the reality of who they were. To know her son was sitting in a church that loathed white people including herself, that he wanted to drain the white blood from himself. Must have been very comforting. That her son couldn’t even be there with her must have made her pass a loving one. Thank goodness he made it back to throw her ashes in the ocean, wouldn’t want him to have to visit a white person’s grave and have to put flowers on it from time to time for show. Too bad the only racist is Barry and all his supporters for supporting a racist. Perhaps that’s why you feel the need to call us a racist all the time. To cover your own tracks. Yet his supporters are the ones that “CHOSE” to associate various words with only one class of people. African Americans. Just as Barry “CHOSE” to sit in a racist church for 20 years of his life. He had no intention of leaving and was raising his children to be racist as well. Barry was a racist clear during the primaries. Only when it hurt his run did he see the light. He’s good at the game play and your the sucker for believing it. Now go away.
He would breake my heart, if he would be my son.It’s clear why his grandma doesn’t feel close to his grandson. If she is thinking how badly he treated his mother, who actually was her daughter. I would feel the same.
“Now go away.”
why the fuck should i go away? i have every right to argue my case just as everyone else here does. i’m sure you could find a private chat room somewhere on the internet from which you can exclude everyone your heart desires.
Gainsay is not argument. Now go away.
the quality and nature of my argument are not prerequisites for posting here, as far as i can tell.
You’re a hypocrite and are part of the reason why the whole split in the party came to be.
CF,
sweet
This visit to granny had one purpose. Suddenly a Birth Certificate will be located in her apartment and Obama lives to fight another day.
EVERY family has hidden dirty laundry. I don’t know Obama (all the better from his public persona), but it DOES seem strange that at least his children didn’t accompany him to grandma’s.
Is this campaign material, probably not. Does it mean something fishy is going on? Not necessarily. Does it make me want to vote for Obama.
NO.
gregory — as Michelle said about Hillary if you can’t take care of your own house you don’t belong in the White House.
I bet the Typical White Grandmother doesn’t like Obama’s Bitter Half, either.
I would have to disagree with SEC about the importance of missing or anomalous personal history. While we often say we are sick to death of hearing about celebrity lives, nevertheless we hear about everyone’s. Except Obama. He does not have the stack of papers that professionals normally have in their CV. He has a paucity of personal info and some of it has been branded a smear on his own site. (like the Muslim part)He has no shame about putting his kids out, but his grandma is strangely isolated. This is how character is judged, SEC, like it or not, by the way we see people treat others.
I would not assume that a grandma loves her descendents. I know some that don’t. Usually there is a good reason for it. We can speculate all over about the relationships in this family, as new info comes out a better picture results (like the whole Edwards thing), but for the moment it is a very creepy picture and not too unexpected (to me) in view of the other cues that BO and MO aren’t that fond of each other. And I try to stay away from creeps. If they can’t run their own house…
Then argue those things. The fact is that he has already gone with his kids to see his grandmother. My bent would be to speculate that Michelle and the kids were at the beach, and Obama didn’t want a picture from the paparazzi of him in a bathing suit on the beach (to avoid another Kerry/windsurfing repeat).
To go somewhere because a photo is “creepy” shouldn’t be part of the dialogue, especially when you see certain pictures of a certain McCain.
If we want to judge character I would put the various things that McCain has done throughout his life up on the table, personally. I personally find his affair with Cindy McCain to be offensive. But I judge him based upon his votes, his public stances, and his vision. Frankly, I cannot tell you the last president who didn’t have skeletons in his closet. That’s just the way it goes.
like the pic of him coming out of the waves that is EXACTLY like the pick of JFK coming out of the waves and which his campaign planned, like that one??
yeah he wouldnt want ANOTHER one of those pics would he
gimme a break
Yeah, not now. Or do you not remember the windsurfing fiasco of four years ago?
would want
SEC this is not a McCain web site so spout your crap elsewhere. This site is for those of us who know Obama is not qualified or experienced enough to be POTUS period. There are so many creepy people backing him and his friendships with people who hate America, Wright, Ayers, Michelle , etc., make him risky and shows really poor character. So don’t self righteously tell us what we should or should not discuss. That’s so Obamanation thuggery. Get lost
It’s a freedom of speech thing. I thought dialogue was a good thing. That’s how minds get changed. An absence of dialogue leads only to people of like-mindedness growing stronger in their resolve, which would be fine, but my understanding is that you guys do not want Obama to be the Democratic nominee or the president of the United States. So, let’s have genuine dialogue, articulating clear points of disagreement. That’s how PUMA’s can win their point. Not this way.
I don’t think it’s thuggery at all, as no one is twisting any person’s arm. I presented what I believe to be a valid point. You may disagree, but what I presented was not thuggery. Saying “get lost” is more in line with what I imagine on-line thuggery to look like. I’m not afraid of dialogue, and neither should anyone else who is looking to truly change the minds of others.
You are assuming that we are the ones who need our minds changed. If this site practiced online thuggery ala Huff/Post and DKos….your post wouldn’t even be here. As far as me personally, my mind is made up. NObama. My mind was made up the day democracy died 5.31.08 RIP.
dialogue is ok when you mean it. you don’t. you’re just wasting band width. in fact, soon you’ll have no bandwidth.
Obama wants his grandmother to shut up. He can’t have his wife or kids there because they would find out about his lies. Michelle can’t stand whitey, or the whitey part of her “husband”.
they are schemers. abusing their children by listening to reverend Wright. What do you want to bet the kids say, “I thought reverend wright told us that hating white people was ok?” What, we have whitey as a grandmother?
What about bambi’s refusal to visit his mother on her deathbed? he is ashamed of his family and history; he feels abandoned by his mother. He hates white women. get a clue, stoopid troll.
I actually do mean it. Why should I be afraid of dialogue?
Of course, genuine dialogue doesn’t frame issues in quasi-racial terms. I would bet all the money in my pocket to all the money in your pocket that the kids would never say that. As a matter of fact, Reverend Wright never said that hating white people was okay. You may disagree with some things that he said, but that was one thing that he has never espoused, from what I’ve researched and followed.
And only the most vile propaganda would ever state that Obama chosee not to be at his mother’s side when she died. He hates white women? ( http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545458,BSX-News-wotreeff09.stng)
Perhaps some people are beyond dialogue. It’s a shame.
It is one thing to have dialogue, it quite another to disingenuously claim your insults would encourage such dialogue and people are ‘beyond’ participating in such a version.
I’ve been at a lot of sites where opposing sides do have geniune dialogue. Insulting people and their opinions never was involved.
No matter how subtly or overtly you insult people for holding views different than your own. Pretending you are upbove it all just shows what a hypocrite you are.
oops, you mean he wouldnt want another one like this carefully planned one?
http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/003959.html
cmon man this is THE most micro managed campaign evah!!
Stay on topic K? SEC?
When you do the “but but but McCain” , you lose credibility.
Personally, I can’t think of one personal relationship that Barry Seroteo has not had problems with. Even his wife calls him “pathetic” on national TV and his kids call him stinky! He was not a respectful teenager towards his grand parents, according to what he has written in his works of fiction.
Face it SEC; not only is Barry Seroteo NOT qualified, has no experience and is immoral, he has NO interpersonal skills to speak of.
But since you support him, be happy as a clam at high tide… just know thast the tide is going out on Barry Seroteo faster than those of Cook Inlet Alaska…
Pathetic? Stinky? That’s pretty intellectually dishonest. I think that the large number of honorable Senators and superdelegates would disagree.
I also like how you use evidence from his book, and then call it a work of fiction. Which is it - fact or fiction?
Not only is he qualified, but he will probably be our next president.
Pathetic? Stinky? That’s pretty intellectually dishonest.
talk to his kids and his wife about it. I didn’t say this they did. Who else knows him the best? Marty Nesbit? Sinclair? Who then???
honorable Senators??? Name one.
Re: his novels; Which is it - fact or fiction?
That is the 64 trillion dollar question isn’t?
Put I don’t suppose you have read his fiction. One can’t call it non-fiction because Barry Seroteo said him self made shit up.
Come on, I want to be the first kite, teak or otherwise, to look at a certified BC copy that has been atested to by the state of Hawaii. But that is not going to happen. Cause Barry has no balls and he is a serial liar who is not good at it.
HONEST Abe said it best. You can…
McCain never stole my vote.
Did Jimmy Carter send Miss Lillian or Billy or sister Ruth on a ’round the world cruise to keep them off the TV?
Although Billy did tell me that Jimmy threatened to make him, “Ambassador to Bang-The-Desk or some such place” if he didn’t stop wearing his Klan robe to the daily softball game.
I don’t question going alone to see grandma the day he arrives in Hawaii. It’s a long flight, with a time change, the kids are probably exhausted, and they have the rest of the week to visit as a family.
What I DO question is why he needed to have a few campaign staff members along, as the report indicates, on his “private” visit to grandma???
Um, we covered this yesterday. Obama’s wife and kids DID visit his grandmother. It is a lie to say they did not. The following paragraph is from the Star-Bulletin newspaper of Hawaii:
“Obama, wife Michelle and daughters Malia, 10, and Sasha, 7, paid a brief visit before heading to Alan Wong’s restaurant nearby at 7:15 p.m. Obama carried a gift basket, and Malia Obama carried a few books, up to the apartment.”
And here is the link to another story the Star Bulletin printed about Obama’s wife and kids visiting his grandmother:
http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=7511
Where does it say
the wicked witch, erMichelle, I mean Little Red Riding Hood visited the grandmother?I think the solo visit was on Friday, the day they arrived in Hawaii. The family visit was on Saturday.
Stopped by, is not VISITING.
The UPS man “stops by.”
Nice try, though.
I give my UPS driver a good bottle of wine every so often…BS stops buy to check Granny’s pulse..
I personally believe Granny doesn’t buy the BS’ter…She knows; we struggle to find out.
Why is this just now news? Best I remember he hasn’t visited his grandmother at any point during his campaign (primary or otherwise). McCain’s mom has actually joined him on the campaign at times. Where as McCain won’t talk about his kids (2 sons in the military no less), Obama pimps his out on national TV!
Here is the link to a the first article I cited above about Obama’s wife and kids visiting his grandmother:
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/10/news/story02.html
we know, he went for an hour to clear up any mistakes in his storyline, then popped in with the kids the next day, got it it, thanks.
neighbors tried to give him a lei and he wouldnt take it or sign a book,, tsk tsk
embarrassing for grandma, she lives there with these neighbors, he should have taken 1 minute to be nice perhaps?
SPIRIT OF ALOHA, and all that remember?
Yes, her neighbors, good point gina….these are the people who live around her and probably check in on her daily….unlike her ungrateful Grandson
They arrived at the building at 6:50 and the restaurant at 7:15, that was a very brief meeting with grandma.
Your Spirit of Aloha reminded me of my friend’s father. Years ago, they went back to the big island for a family reunion.
He grew up there and couldn’t remember the name of this little market and eatery.
He could only vaguely remember where it was. The lady on the other end of the line spent 45 minutes helping him narrow it down. Calling places, staying on the line, and going to the next possible place.
If you don’t have the exact name here. 411 doesn’t really help you. You get a couple of guesses and that is it….click.
In Hawaii she helped him longer than Obama’s family spent with great-grandma!
So back in the states…her dad calls up Hawaiian 411/information for me just to see how completely nice they are.
LOL
Read the caption under the pic…no WIFE anywhere…
The pair of eyes between Malia’s head and Barack’s elbow could belong to Michelle.
It doesn’t make it much better. An hour visit with grandma after golf and before dinner looks to me like something one ‘must’ do as opposed to what one ‘wants to’ do.
When my grandma was ill and couldn’t move around easily, we brought her to our place. When she got homesick for her house, we took her back and I moved in to keep her company.
After I left the country, my mother visited her daily, later took her to her place because she just couldn’t move in with grandma. (Mom was still working and the commute would have been too much for her.)
Grandma was our holy grail. We watched her every wish, knowing that her time with us is winding down.
God, how I miss her!
To visit my grandma once in every two years in not acceptable if you really care.
People who can’t visit their parents and grandparents because of the distance still visit them at least here and there. Obama could afford a quick flight to Hawaii sometimes.
What about the other grandma? She seems to be forgotten too. The school, she is so proud of, the one that was named after Obama? The one that needs just a little money to make it reasonably decent?
This man doesn’t care.
He played 18 holes with a small group, including longtime friends;
Marty Nesbitt and Eric Whitaker.
Granny ain’t the only scat on the trail.
To quote Felix, “Good questions all”.
What he is doing with his grandmother is what the DOD would not let him get away with in Landstuhl. One would think about trying have some decency, he doesn’t.
Obama should not be POTUS because he has lied, engaged in obfuscation of pertinent personal information, and has not been transparent about his background. Thus the problem of the birth certificate and the possibility of holding dual citizenships which could cause a complete conflict of interest in his desire to lead America. The information purporting that the COLB that Obama released on his own website is a forgery is a further example of the mystery of Obama that he himself perpetuates.
Obama has engaged in pursuing relationships with people and organizations whose primary goals have included the discrimination against white Americans, the destruction of the democratic process, and the further economic destruction of the American economic group generally known as the middle class. His long term relationships with William Ayers, Rev. J. Wright, James H. cone, the New Black Panthers, Antoin Rezko, and even his own wife Michelle are prime examples of his flirtation and inclusion of Marxist ideology into his own political and personal personas. Marxism is a process that is anti- democracy and anti-capitalism and therefore can be seen as counterproductive the ideals of the United States of America.
We who post here have no intention of allowing this man, Obama, to be president of the United States. By disseminating information, participating in open discussions, and taking an active interest in not allowing our voting power to be undermined are a few of the crucial motivators that drive us.
There. SEC are you happy now?
The COLB issue is complete conjecture. Even the presenting documents presented by TexasDarlin posits them as theory. It is one that may or may not be proven to be true or false. Your first paragraph uses words such as “could” and “possibility,” so I thank you that you are not like others who present such things as fact. It’s not known, but it’s not in the “not knowing” that should disqualify someone to be president, especially when, as I believe, if there was a real problem with citizenship, then this would have come up a long time ago during Clinton’s vetting process.
The associations with Rev. Wright can be seen as troubling, but one only need to read some of Rev. Hagee’s work to know that it works both ways. I also believe that I can listen to someone without espousing his or her beliefs. I’ve come here for at least six months, and can listen to the arguments and still make up my mind on my own.
I would argue that Obama’s economic policies are not Marxist - in fact, Marxism is not a theological system. Marxism by definition is what is considered “practical-critical.” It challenges a belief in God by asking why such a belief is necessary. Therefore, you may disagree with a Wright or a Cone, but labeling them Marxist goes against Marxist thought at its core. I’m not sure how Michelle is labeled Marxist exactly. I’ve read the arguments for it, but I’ve found them to be pretty weak.
I do wish that Obama would have shown better judgment than to dally with both Ayers and Rezko, but I again would never say that Obama agrees with both lock, stock, and barrel. I do not believe in guilt by association. I didn’t with the Clintons, and I don’t with the Obamas.
I do appreciate that you are a believer in open discussions. That’s how we move forward and make our country greater.
the difference between Rev. Wright and Rev Hagee is that Obama hung with Wright for 20 years, member of the Church, took his kids there, got married there. McCain probably hasn’t met Hagee more than 3 times. As for his two most important friends, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers, who were his BIGGEST HELPERS in his career. Rezko for the money he raised, over $250,000 which is big in State politics, and for the help Obama sought from Rezko to buy his Mansion, which IS CORRUPTION. Bill Ayers has political power, his father, Thomas Ayers was CEO of Commonwealth Edison (Exelon) and Chairman of CHICAGO UNITED, a collection of Chicago movers and shakers. Obama sucked up to Ayers, launched his first run for State Senate in his living room, and got appointed to the Board of the Woods Fubd and the Chairmanship of the Chicago ANNERBERG CHALLENGE GRANT. You wouldn’t want to shake hands with either of them, Obama sucked up to both for many years, you can judge a person by their friends.
OKAY SEC I’ll bite. Why do you think Obama should be POTUS- Give us accomplishments, Policies, His top Issue. Clocks tickin’..
Sec Is his Uncle Frank, still alive in Hawaii? You know the confirmed Marxist and alleged BI-sexual. Who mentored Obama for -what, twenty years? You know the one that grandpa dumped him on? Just wondering if he paid him a visit? Obama referred to him as uncle Frank in his book.
You don’t know James H. Cone or Rev. Wright or even Michelle. Oh, they are most definitely Marxist leaning advocates. One only has to read summaries of Cone’s books to figure out that he is a disciple of marxism.
Also, Obama’s troubles with Rezko are not over. It was stated in opening statements of the Rezko trial that it was only the beginning of the federal dismantling of the Chicago corruption machine. With Blegojevich and Obama being the only two government representing men whose names were also put into record as associates of Rezko, the probability of Obama going down increases greatly. Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is well-known for the meticulous way he goes about bringing corruption to light and making the charges against those perpetrators stick.
Draw a circle around Barack Obama and at each degree there is either a fraud, unanswered question, point of legality, troubling information, lack of clarity, flip-flop, lack of experience, half-truth, lack of information, shroud of doubt, mystery to be solved, and the list goes on.
Name five bona fide things that Obama has actually done for the betterment of others. It stumped the panel of Chris Matthew’s show yesterday…
The COLB issue is complete conjecture;;;;
NO, the “item” posted On BS’s website has proven to be a fraudulent document. Period.
The fact you see it as conjecture only underscores the point that “BS” Barry Seroteo has “… has lied, engaged in obfuscation of pertinent personal information, and has not been transparent about his background.” (from Buzz Latte)
You wish ??? he had shown better judgement? He did not and is incapable of doing so. At EVERY, and I MEAN every oppertunity presented to BS he has failed. Do you ever wonder why his wife calls him Pathetic?….
Obama’s story has never changed on the COLB issue. Not once. Never.
What is confusing you is all of the BS theories on this site, none of which have born out to be true.
This document has been available for public scruitiny since May, yet no one in the world (yes the COLB certificate is available to anyone which internet access) with any shred of credibility has come out to support your theory that it is a fake. It only took us “trolls” 15 minutes to knock down Larry’s lie about BO not visiting grandma with the wife and kids.
I bet you cannot name one person with knowledge of document forgery who has put their name and reputation behind the “fake BC theory”. Techdude and Polarik don’t count because I don’t know their names, and neither do you.
So take a deep breath and try to look at this situation logically, instead of allowing your hatred of BO cloud your judgement.
There are plenty of reasons you can give yourselves to justify voting for McCain. No need to believe in “fairy tales”.
Your entire post consists of the fallacy of the unknown fact. Your logic needs a complete makeover.
Appeal to authority-fallacy.
Why don’t you just take up basket-weaving, Goober.
Suppose you are right. Why? the Obama camp. and Obama himself,prove the allegations are fals. As, McCain, show his BC why Obama is not doing the same thing. If he is ” clean” he has to prove us,that we are wrong. This sounds fair, no?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375
Check out this article on Obama’s eligibility to be President. This article lays out in a clear and consise way that Obama doesn’t meet the Constitutional standards to be President.
dysfunctional is putting it nicely. getting his stories straight with grandma first perhaps.
here is how canadian free press puts it:
…There’s confidence, there’s arrogance, and there is the state of self-delusion where you begin to actually believe the stupid things you’re saying…
from the piece entitled: Why John McCain Will Win:Part D’uh!!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4411
There’s a good article about Obama’s place of birth and current (as well as past) citizenship issues on Savage Politics. It speaks of the mainstream media’s inability to bring honest news to all of us in light of John Edward’s recent hidden information regarding his affair. NQ readers know all of this since Texas Darlin has been providing us with astounding information all along.
http://savagepolitics.com/
Within the Savage Politics article is a link that I have put below. It is a petition to the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) to investigate Obama’s birth place and citizenship claims. Even if you support Obama it is wise to find out what the truth is here rather than assume that it’s nonsense without an investigation. I heard that Obama has removed (within the past few days) his faux birth certificate from web site. Sign the petition and share it with everyone you know.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/
that one hour stop at his grandmother…the woman who raised him bothered me on a very deep level
While I’ve see little merit in Barry, this action (or lack of it) spoke volumes about his character.
Guess the Precious doesn’t have a USE for Granny right now.
BO has NO character…
He DID NOT go see his own mother when she was dying of cancer….
Thank you Buzz, concur, and well said. Whether we “should” or should not phrase something in a particular way, really isn’t up for discussion SEC, we aren’t here to make you comfortable, happy, pleased with the conversation, or a champion of the Critique Guild. Vote for Obama, we aren’t stopping you. As a matter of fact, I support your right to vote for whom you want, just as I support those who will vote for McCain, or who ever their heart desires. We discuss, we engage the non-demanding rule setter for conversations and we do our very best to ignore the insults.
I wonder how his grandmother feels about him using her for publicity. With all the money he’s got he could have paid for her to fly to see him and then had a family get together in secret.
The reason I say this is because he only visited for like an hour. I mean most families that love each other enough to fly to hawaii in the middle of a presidential campaign and being on vacation, would spend more than hour. Wouldn’t they like go out and do something, have dinnner or lunch. Take the kids to the water park or beach.
exactly. He probably went to Hawaii to strongarm some colb officials, under the guise of visiting his grandma.
An hour?? I mean come on. He was probably looking at his watch the whole time.
I’m sure there’s much, MUCH more “communication” going on with grandma than the media knows about or is showing. Who says the woman the media met is even his grandma at all?
Grandma is his “escape clause” and he’ll be using her very soon. (I doubt she will be harmed in any way unless he’s even more ruthless than I thought, but it doesn’t mean there won’t be reports of her death…or faked death)
This is the only way he will be able to bow out without any question asked. If his only living, blood relative passes away (whether real or fake), he will be “devastated” and probably drop out of the election.
Keep any eye on granny, or at least on the actress hired to play her on TV. Too many stories surfacing, too many rumors turning out to be true, too many people hitting too close to home and Obama isn’t able to handle it. They’re staging his exit. Of course that means allowing Hillary the nomination, which is what they wanted to avoid at all costs, but they couldn’t beat her down and they underestimated her terribly. This is the DNC’s only way out of humiliation and hopefully (in their minds)the GOP will start hitting Hillary with everything they have and the focus will be off Obama (who is in “emotional turmoil over the loss of his grandmother”) Dean, Pelosi and Brazzile and all eyes on Hillary who they couldn’t defeat as hard as they tried.
Right, BO was there alone with Grandma to break the news to her, that he is out of the race. Something big about BO is coming out soon.
God I hope your right. Hope and change Hope and change I do believe I want to believe Hope and change Hope and change.
OMMMM
Hillary IS potus!
Testing….
7 worrisome signs for Obama
“This election is about Barack Obama — not John McCain — it’s about whether Barack Obama passes muster. Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12433.html
HAVEN’T WE BEEN SAYING THIS!
Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama….
Yes, we HAVE been saying this. Over and OVER again!!!
What will it take to wash this man out of our hair?
Lather….
Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama….
Rinse…..
Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama…
REPEAT!!
Every poll shows that people want a Democratic president, the problem is they’re not sure they want Barack Obama!!
LOL!
Can someone tell me the story about Barack’s missing Columbia years?
I didn’t read his autobiofictional but he skips right over those years right??
He had to have a discussion with her about faking her own death, giving him a reason to drop out of the race (as an emotional wreck due to the fake death of his grandmother) because it’s getting too hot in the kitchen and he knows things are about to boil over.
Anyone want to bet $100 that “grandma” will pass away in the next few weeks and leave Obama so emotionally devastated that he decides not to pursue the nomination and office due to the emotional crisis he’s going through? (Just as all the bombshells are about to be dropped of course)
As Much as I have those same “stray” thoughts … I would not wish to bet on the life of a person…
I also think with Marty Nesbit hanging around this “Vacation” there is a whole lot of very “personal” stuff going on that needs to be handled by someone BS can “trust with secrets”. Bad stuff is a foot.
Nesbitt handles the campaign money yes?
Caffeine and every else saying he brought his kids to visit the grandmother. First off your using the star bulletin. The same paper that has him visiting on his own to his grandmothers. Also look at the pictures, he’s wearing the exact same outfit. In fact the star bulletin has both events on the same day. Yet what you cite as evidence also mentions a gift basket and books, well where are they? Where’s Michelle? Hell where is everyone else in the elevator? Why was secret service saying he wasn’t going to visit to get the media away? Could it be Barry called the bulletin to skew the story? Me thinks yes.
So unless you want to make the argument that Barry went to visit grandma once, realized he committed another political mess-up, and then went out to get the kids and wife to seem more appealing, shut it.
I think you’re off base with this one. Why shouldn’t he visit her alone?
I found it odd that a women at the apartment building asked for an autograph, and he refused. When the big cameras are on - this fraud is smiling, shaking hands, and signing everything in sight.
Cold hearted does not describe this guy.
Leave Barry alone!
He only has 10 measly days to vacation in Hawaii!
He wasted one whole hour on that typical white person, isn’t that enough for you people?
On another note, Typical White Granny knows too much about Obama. They better be watching her room to make sure she doesn’t suffer from an unfortunate accident.
I like to see one reporter ask Obama what his legal is?
Question: Sen. Obama. What is your legal name sir?
Answer: I can’t wait to hear what comes out this weasale mouth…..
OT: Seems like the money going to downticket dems is gaining seom steam outside of the PUMA-Sphere.
I was wondering why people weren’t inclined to follow the money trail past the BO campaign.
Anywho… this is a story that needs to be pushed. Perhaps, NoQ can pus up their own analysis and research into the matter.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23249
A very informative article regarding the communists/marxists in Hawaii, the influence of “The Frank Marshall Davis Network in Hawaii,” and Davis’ relationship with the Dunham family, including his pivotal role in Obama’s life (some in Obama’s own words):
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4203
While Obama is off on vay-cay, Hillary had spent her week visiting with the soldiers at Fort Drum, NY.
While Obama doesn’t have time for “those people” - Hillary is campaigning for his lazy ass in Nevada.
My mom made a bet with me. She bet that MO doesn’t like or get along with his white grand parents. That is why they are absent from the beginning.
I think I’m gonna lose his bet.
BREAKING!!!
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From HuffingOnHopium.com
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BarrySoetoro.com is registered and points to the John McCain for President Website.
My fav. Puts a smile on my face for sure.
You’ve got to be kidding me…
This post would be laughable if it weren’t such a bunch of presumptuous asshattery.
Might as well go back to posting fundraising pleas for Larry Sinclair: Political Prisoner.
yawn…
BarrackObama.com —> that way
aka
BarrySoetoro.com <— The other way
So, are you saying that for a fact that Barry Soetoro never existed? Can you prove this? Can you prove that Obama was never a citizen of any other nation other than the United States? No you can’t prove any of this so why not ask the questions, expect to get real answers, and then we can put this topic to rest once and for all. Thus far Obama has NOT provided proof of anything related to this topic except for a forged birth certificate that he has now removed from his own site.
It appears you fear the truth and that is a very sad commentary about you and anyone that does not want the FEC to investigate this matter.
If it’s true that the girls were only at Grandma’s for a brief visit, that makes me so sad.
For years I lived miles and miles away from my grandparents. I visited them every chance I could, and spent as much time as I could with them during those visits.
When they died, several years apart, the only thing that made it somehow easier to bear in each case was that I knew they knew how important they were to me. I remain grateful to this day for all those precious hours of visits we had.
Obama’s girls and his grandmother deserve no less. Nothing is more important than family, not even the Oval Office.
Personally, I think we’re all wasting time having the current discussion of Barry’s grandma visit. Larry Johnson dropped a bombshell a couple of nights ago about Republicans actually having the real Barry Soetoro birth certificate. If this is indeed so, each minute that elapses without this document seeing the light of day makes me more suspect and wondering if we’re getting smoke blown up our asses. It’s beginning to smell like the “Techdude Report” we were all expecting to see but never did.
Like the rest of you, I think Obama is a disaster-waiting-to-happen. I want to see him go down in flames. If the Republicans do indeed have this document, they have an obligation to the country to release it immediately instead of waiting for the best “political” moment.
Yeah, the birth certificate is right next to the Whitey tape.
TROLL ALERT!!
sec
yaz
nothistime
moi61537
francis
caffeine
beckley
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!
wonder how much they get paid to drag their pails of bullsh*t to anti-obama sites?
hillary ‘08
p.u.m.a.
Hey!
What’s a brother gotta do to get on the list?
Lol! Trust us you’re on the list. LOL!
Well, they must be union cuz none of them works on the weekends. Thank God.
wow is that true?
bizarre beebop because the trolls we had at the DNC open thread were MOST HEAVY on the weekends so MOST Of us avoided the place on Sat. & Sun.
different trolls apparently or they’re doing double duty? LOL maybe some are Republican plant double (dun da da) agents!!
we must find them
and eat them
PUMA!! W00T!!
hehe
If Sen. Edward was running knowing what he knew about his affair and his wife knew all along. I beg to ask the question who are these Edwards?
This forum had ran story on that, and Hannity & Colmes had been asking the question when will the main stream media run the story…..all of a sudden, it became a “breaking news” to CNN, but not us.
If all the above are true, then when will the things we know about Sen. Obama, become a “CNN breaking news”
Just a thought!
But you can bet they are going to run the crap out of O’s new add “The Embrace” tomorrow, which is of course the photo of Senator McCain and President Bush embracing. (per the o site) In the effort to tie Senator MCCain as more of the same, type thing.
For someone on vacation he is sure getting a lot of play in the media.
Edwards turned out to be such an honest, ethical person didn’t he? Obama is just getting all kinds of stellar endorsements. NOT. I don’t really care where Obama was born. It could have been in a pod on Mars. He’s still not fit to run this country. Anyone who thinks he is has a screw loose.
He just closed his Poverty Center. The links in the next article above. Pretty shallow guy or was the center a front. I knew he was pandering to poor people.
good fricken point ugo
people take credit for other peoples ideas all the time
some times they need to be called OUT
i’m telling you…It’s Michelle. She’s a bitch and we sure don’t need her for a 1st Lady.
pkat — these are both ugly evil people who gamed the system for their own gain. Obama just loves those fringe people who hate the rest of us and the country we love. The Big BO couldn’t give the woman who raised him more than an hour and he didn’t want to bring his children to honor the lady who is all that is left of his white heritage but he had 20 years to sit in that hate filled church. AMERICA CAN DO BETTER–
it almost sounds like you are blaming the WOMAN? (in general)
I hope not.
MO is a bitch but so am I and most of the women here. That alone is not it.
BLack Liberation Theology Brain MELDING to an insecure drug induced player and his “fist bumping” player wife is what is so UNACCEPTABLE!
but not scary because fear is what they WANT you to feel!!! Fear of their color or their upbringing or their background. Fearing you won’t want to be called a racist or closet republican.
I won’t be PLAYED
or AFRAID
I won’t be VOTING for them either!
fini foo
Strong women can be bitchy but for even another woman to categorize all the tough ladies here as bitches is, IMHO, unfair.
Having the skill and talent to be bitchy and scathing at times isn’t the same thing.
I’ve always liked and admired strong women but have never enjoyed the company of a bitch. I think you’re tough but I do not believe you to be a bitch at all.
Regards
Perhaps Barry went to ask Granny to tone it down a bit, while the kiddies are there. We can not forget that Granny is an honest to goodness UNBRIDLED RACIST. Wouldn’t want this 85 year old woman in failing health to throw around any racial epitaths. Remember young Barry used to cringe when granny went all white supremist on him. After spending 20 years (for the girls their whole lives) in Rev Wrights church, the Obamas are simply to innocent for granny. Racism has no place in the Obamas life. Period.
This whole post is a crock, Larry. We “trolls” knocked down the story in less than 15 minutes. See link.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/10/news/story02.html
How long are we going to have to wait for the COLB story to hit the MSM? Oh, you haven’t come up with any independent, verifiable proof yet? Techdude turned out to be a fraud, yet you are still citing his work. Wazup wit dat?
Shut up shit for brains, how many times do we have to tell you THAT?? This is not a babysitting service. If you think we’re all full of it then why are you here? Wazup wit dat?? Get lost.
Stockholm?
lol
Francis..Did Obama vist his uncle Frank, too? You know the confirmed Marxist and Bisexual. He did mentor Obama for -what, twenty years? Wait, he’s dead! Was he buried in Hawaii or Chicago? Did Obama pay him homage by placing flowers on gravesite?
Your link is about BOBO taking his family to the golf course. That’s not grandma’s.
Scroll down…on the bottom of the page.
I did scroll down. That guy to the right of BOBO is the same guy to the right when BOBO is golfing. He’s not secret service.
It’s michelle in drag.
Francis, what about Uncle Frank-the confirmed Marxist and Bisexual?
Barky wears the same clothes 2 days in a row? Now wonder Motor mouth calls him stinky.
It’s more likely that Obama wanted privacy w her to make sure she didn’t squeal on him about his birth origins and/or citizenship among other things. Of course she is white and since his wife doesn’t like white people, maybe she just couldn’t stand to be around her. Unity huh? Ok….
Edwards was “doin” Hunter.. just like Bill was “doin” Lew….. Oh never mind.
It’s probably blackmail. Either she lies about his birth, or she doesn’t see the kids.
Guess who’s one of Barack Obama’s foreign-policy advisers? According to the Daily Mail, it’s that other celebrity hunk, George Clooney. According to their sources, Clooney advises Obama on a regular basis through phone calls and text messages, and not just on looking his best in front of the cameras:
But Democratic Party insiders have revealed that Clooney and Obama regularly send texts and emails to each other and speak by phone at least twice a week.
One said last night: ‘They are extremely close. A number of members of the Hollywood community, including Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, offered to help raise funds for Barack but it was with George that he struck up this amazing affinity.
‘George has been giving him advice on things such as presentation, public speaking and body language and he also emails him constantly about policy, especially the Middle East.
‘George is pushing him to be more “balanced” on issues such as US relations with Israel. … [T]hey text and email each other almost every day and speak on the phone at least a couple of times a week, often more.’
Obama already has 300 foreign policy advisers. What’s one more? Too many chefs can spoil the broth, but no kitchen could hold this throng anyway. Where would they plan to meet, Thermopylae?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/11/number-301-george-clooney/
yeah unfxxkin believable, Big Dawg is actually shoveling dirt and working with the Foundation to help NOLA (Pitt was there too) Obummer does all he can to AVOID NOLA entirely, yet Pitt helps Obummer
frakkin idiots these people are
UN SEC Council talking lots and doing just GRET helping Georgia huh?
Uhmm no not so much
sometimes you just have to say wtf and take military action, not in that order..
AND just to pixx me off more, UHHHHbama says he does not talk to ‘those people’ about 18 million voting DEMS, but he has LOTS of time to talk to celebrities
niiiice
Francis-where are you? Are you researching my question regarding Uncle Frank, the confirmed Marxist and Bisexual, who mentored Obama for 20 yrs? Ok, has Obama, been loyal to his good buds and fund-raisers, Tony Rezko and Stuart Levine, has he written them, gave them a call just to ask how they doin? You know, Tony Rezko, convited felon. Stuart, convicted felon and Puruple Room partier, Drugs and those all male week-end parties.
I sensed some sexual frustration in your post, Stevie. Stories about bi-sexuals and male weekend parties must really turn you on.
I’ll get back to you on Uncle Frank. My guess is it is from the same people who brought us fake COLBs and whitey tapes. But I’ll give it due diligence.
I am surprised that you haven’t covered this one:
http://momsword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=654:fox-news-investigative-reporters-fired-for-telling-the-truth&catid=1:latest-reviews&Itemid=50
Francis,,,,AGAIN..read the caption under the pick…NO mention of wifey…oh. maybe she’s in da shade,,uder the bus..sippin’ Mai Tai’s wiff GF’s
oo maybe she’s wit oprah
I made the same mistake…she is referenced at the end of the article.
But remember they were going out to eat and apparently Alan Wongs is close to Granny’s. So it looks like they HAD to stop by in order to eat at one of the finest restaurants on the big island.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/08/10/news/story02.html
“Obama, wife Michelle and daughters Malia, 10, and Sasha, 7, paid a brief visit before heading to Alan Wong’s restaurant nearby at 7:15 p.m. Obama carried a gift basket, and Malia Obama carried a few books, up to the apartment.”
http://www.alanwongs.com/
For a guy who claims to be JFK, he certainly has a dysfunctional family. He said his grandmother is off limits because she’s ill, but he hauled her out for a TV Commericial. He kicked her butt on national TV with the Typical White Woman speech (a speech pimped as one that will go down in history, I think not). He has brothers and sisters all over the place and we never hear him speak of ANY of them. THe only thing we know of them is what he told us in his books, and then who the hell is he to audaciously imagine the entire country wants to read his books just to hear about him? Furthermore, so much of what he wrote has been debunked handily as fiction. No friends, past or present, discuss him in any way, shape or form. He has no paper trail whatsoever. Face it, we know nothing of this man except his stories, and those too have holes in them. His father with a “American flag drapped on his coffin”? Cannot be so. His uncle who freed the Jews. Not so. Just one big long dragged out Truman Show right before our eyes.
JFK indeed. We knew where his family was. We watched them play football in Hyannisport. We counted their heads and knew who they were, warts and all. Not so of barack obama, and that includes his wife’s family. Everybody is a mystery in his family except for his ’stories’. We learn from our parents many things! All of us! What has Obama learned from his parents? We don’t know because we know nothing of them that is objective.
All this time has gone by and we still have to ask, WHO IS THIS GUY?….and what does he REALLY have planned?
I know I shouldn’t say this but this is SNARK- He is probably Osama after plastic surgery- Remember that Bosnia/Kosovo guy they just arrested? he was in the same town under their noses for several years. Obama said he’s a blank slate???
I apologize ahead of time if this offends anyone.
Truth is always stranger than fiction though..
lol, both Osama and Obama have evil looking eyes.
Have you noticed the photos released so far on the granny visit. He hasn’t seen the woman in 2 years, so he says and he doesn’t even show a picture evan giving her a hug! I hug my grandmother everytime I see her because who knows when that will be the last opportunity. Also we only see the back of her head, with no facial expression. Is this woman a shut in, who never goes out of her condo? Why is she never seen in public even going to the store to buy milk.
A photo of an appreciative Obama hugging his proud grandma could be ripped over the internet and broadcast on TV within seconds. I’m surprised … it’s all about image with him, isn’t it? I don’t care how complex Obama’s personality supposedly is … his values, on so many levels, seem fatally defective.
One of a hundred reasons this man is way too dangerous, unstable and unpredictable to be POTUS.
Uh, oh…looks like Techdude is among the missing:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/obamas-dual-citizenship-disaster-an-overview/#comment-6688
Accusations that Obama had him knocked of in 5-4-3…
All manipulative people are that way because manipulation was the only way they could get what they needed as small children. However as a black person I am more than a little disgusted with obama. all joking aside, Blacks have to do 10x better than whites just to be seen as equal. Obama didn’t even try to do 1% better. he is really getting what he deserves. For all black people moaning and growing about inequalities, we seem to forget that to keep our nose clean. Obama is a dynamic person who probably does have leadership ability unfortunately somewhere along the way he decided he was going to lie and cheat to get what he wants. Obama could have had everything and more if he hadn’t started cheating. Such wasted potential. really it’s just sad.
A Woman too! Must out perform her male counterpart (of any damn color) to be considered his equal!
funny as hell
not
I think deep down, a lot of Black voters know that the DNC rigged the election for Obama. He, they cheated. I was debating Backtrack with a family member of mine, it was pretty heated, and finally she said, “Well, White people have done far worse throughout the years.”
I kind of saw her view as payback, in the sense that, yes, there has been a lot of racism in this country, so therefore, she doesn’t care if Barack cheated because White people have done wrong things as well. I swear, if anyone has a sense of entitlement, it’s these Obamabots.
My view is that anyone who undermines and cheats our voting system needs to be held accountable, I don’t care if they are Black. I was pissed when I saw the GOP and Dubya/Jeb cheat, and I’m pissed when I see the DNC and Barack doing the same thing.
I am not black, and I could never relate to the black experience. I have never doubted the tribulations of the AA community, particularly in past history. It is a shame Obama is setting back race relations in this country by decades. I am a 25-year Dem who is of the same generation as Obama. I wish I could support him. I cannot. For me, race is not a problem, but Obama’s racist views are (among a hundred other issues).
Here’s an American, who happens to be black, who many would love to see as McCain’s VP pick (the timing for West is not right, though):
http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/
I completely agree about the wasted potential and that he didn’t have to cheat.
America craves to have a geniunely honorable President…not one who just says he is.
Or lies about his opponent’s issues in ads or on the stump when he really has the same shame in his background.
(Lobbyists, oil men, Cheney energy policy, etc.)
Obama, in his own book, portrayed his grandmother as a typical white person. These words are forever in print and in his family history. Perhaps he should have thought more about what he says before his words became a lasting impression on the public’s mind.
I do not believe him to be a wonderful, family man or a devout christian of 20 years. I believe it was reported that he hasn’t seen his grandmother for many years. Never heard that he calls her once a week, once a month or even once a year.
Obama and Michelle have brought their children to listen to Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s hatefilled and racist sermons for several years. Malia is 10 and Sasha is 7 (their ages may be reversed, can’t be positive).
The TUCC, in my opinion, isn’t even advocating christian valuues. Jeremiah Wright has the title Reverend but did not graduate from any Theological Seminary, Coolege or University which means he does not have his Doctorate in Theology. His sermons are based on Black Theology quite different from Christian theology.
Anyway, in my opinion, Obama will do whatever is necessary to show the American people that he has the core values of country, family and home, as well as his supposed best interest for the American people.
NOTE: He was not elected fair and square. He was selected by the DNC not the American voters. There is a petition for legal action to be taken regarding rigged caucasies, illegal foreign campaign funds, his forged COLB which Israel Insider had exposed several weeks ago. One discovery was the problematic inconsistency with the borders. Etc….
An excellent article on Obama in their headline today.
http://israelinsider.com
Apparently, BO just expects to be crowned. He goes through the motions of visiting granny, so that the MSM can report that he did see her, I suppose. But not to take wifey and/or the kids and stay for one hour when he was to be in the islands for a week is BEYOND RATIONAL EXPLANATION. Now, if the woman is totally senile or something, why doesn’t he say so? Why would people hold that against him? If Hillary or McCain had treated their elderly parents like this, scum like Olbermann would have blathered about it non-stop. Sometimes BO acts so stupidly that I decide he has just given up and will withdraw at any moment. If only!
He did not have time for a social visit, with all his campaigning needing to be done and all. He just needed to find out if it was true that she made his mamma go to Canada to deliver him. And he also wanted to know all the names of the other people who knew.
Based on today’s troll traffic, I’d say the O-bots are really worried Barky won’t show up with a new BC from Granny’s nightstand.
Trolls, save your keys. If Barky was stupid enough to take the press with him to visit Granny without the kids, he’s too vacuous to be Prez.
I think he’s brainwashing those kids about white people. (Again, save the keys. Barky and his wife are the racists, bots. See Wright, Rev. J.) As someone said earlier, he’s ashamed of Granny’s race and doesn’t want the kids getting ideas. Scary.
sorry, what’s the point of this post again?
Despicable post, Larry.
Heh, you are one to talk…
GROW Up people! There are hundreds of pictures of Obama, his grandma and the girls in Chicago. We were inundated with them many times the lasr few years. If you’re going after someone, at least act like grown ups. Speaking of grown ups, I went grocery shopping today and ALL the checkout people had T-shirts saying “JOHN McCAIN IS A SCUMBAG” with a very unfl.attering picture. It was interesting. Shoppers loved it! Is it cool to do that? they were selling the shirts as well and ran out. I got 4 of them for souveniers.
The guy that’s setting up the 3 debates was on MSNBC and said that to participate they had to be american citizens. he said that was already taken careof and both candidates are qualified and citizens of the USA. He said the crazy bloggers make up nonsense and there are NO problems with either one.
heard it too. kind of makes this discussion irrelavent!
Obama Contributions: Moving On MoveOn’s Money and more
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/obamas_foreign_contributions/
Obama Contributions: Moving On MoveOn’s Money
Osama Edwan—-another brother form Gaza-2-donations-Both dated 11-10-2007 here and here
Not only did Obama not report this jihad cash to the FEC, despite what they’ve claimed, the “Pali” brothers have not received their jihad cash back.
In digging deeper into the illegal foreign campaign contributions from Palestinians, Cathy came across these FEC letters. Obama knew these contributions were illegal and “Palestinian”. He didn’t report them. He took a page from his days as a “commnity organizer” for the most corrupt political machine in America. It’s what they do.
Bringing the worst in American politics to the national level.
It seems the FEC actually did their job. But the chosen One-bama is special and above the law……. he is a citizen of the world.
Obama’s campaign filed their 10/01/07 thru 12/31/07 “Year End” report with the FEC on 1/31/08.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/obamas_birth_certifcate_forgery/
As we can see that this has been going on for sometime and nothing yet.Not even Obama came forward to prove nothing.But Obama has “FIGHT THE SMEAR”on his website with a photo of his fake birth certificate.Maybe he hopes that our children who blogs for him under the age of 16 cannot understand what a fake birth cerificate is,They just see this and think..See Obama puts up a birth certificate. well has others fighting his wrong doing and Obama does not fight this by coming forward-again he use the pople who does not understand a fraud from a real one.Again Obama hides and has the people who may be youbger who cannot tell a fake from real.Why is Obama having people fight his lies of his own fraud birth certificate and stands back and does not come forward.As you see from this date it’s been well before this as well that still nothing from Obama.He could have gotton a real birth certificate by now by mail-and cleared this up.BUT NO,HE DIDN’T CAUSE WHY.? HE KNOWS IT’S A FAKE AND HE KNOWS THAT HE DIDN’T WANT THE REAL ONE SHOWN.WHY?MY GUESS IS HE IS NOT AFRAICAN AMERICAN.AND HE IS USEING THAT RACE TO AS IT HAS BEEN USED BEFORE JUST BECAUSE HE MAY LOOK LIKE AFRAICAN AMERICAN.BUT HIS LIPS ARE PURPLE-HIS EYES ARE DEEP AND MORE LIKE BIN-LINDONS-HE LOOKS RELATED TO REV J WRIGHT SOME HOW AS WELL.
http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/06/freedom-of-information-act-request-for.html
Donna Brazile: Keep Your Promise and Quit the DNC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CTO6qsp-Y&feature=related
9/11 Pastor Jeremiah Wright Barack Michelle Obama Hillary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0&feature=related
Money Changes Everything :: Superdelegates Are For Sale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPoV4diMjk&feature=related
Obama oops six times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyfyJMOR90A&feature=related
obama lies about troop withdraw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_VoHfqQMc&feature=related
Why Barack is a 3rd World Terrorist, Attacking Dem Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwhAkBcxBPc&feature=related
Obama’s terrorist connections - William Ayers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g&feature=related
Fox News: Weatherman Bill Ayers Was Obama’s “Mentor”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_h-XwchkY&feature=related
BUT,BUT BUT GEORAGE
Barack Obama - Democrat Debate - Bill Ayers - Pennsylvania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlnoXZWRjgE&feature=related
LOSER OBAMA
OBAMA MAKES PRESIDENTIAL SEAL OF HIS OWN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGeLeVpIHE&NR=1
Go Hillary we love you!
Barack Obama - Democrat Debate - Bill Ayers - Pennsylvania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=GlnoXZWRjgE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgE04JqyV2Y&NR=1
Barak Obama Ayers Rezko SOME of his Terrorist Friends
The Interview the Left Wing Media Refuses to Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FHm0-PvF4U&feature=related
Obama: HE’S A LIAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKlQSNN2zo&feature=related
9/11 Pastor Jeremiah Wright Barack Michelle Obama Hillary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0&feature=related
The penagon happend to us.Ayers and Obama stood by Ayers.And worked with him.
When will the blog links to Stormfront be going up?