The Obama Doctrine
By Larry Johnson on August 12, 2008 at 11:30 AM in Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, Foreign Policy, Qualifications
So He Can Go Body Surfing
On the day after Russia invaded Georgia, Barack Obama urged even-handed “restraint” on both sides without mentioning Russia by name or rebuking its aggression. Thus Obama proposed his “Rodney King Doctrine,” after the African-American taxi driver, beaten by Los Angeles policemen in 1991, who plaintively asked, “Can we all get along?” The acquittal of the police in 1992 triggered the LA riots.
The Russians took the Obama Doctrine as another green light—not just for their attack but also for extending their power in the foreseeable future under a potential Obama administration.
Having dealt with the pesky issue of war, Obama turned to the more pressing matter of his Hawaiian vacation. His statement about his day in paradise was more focused than his statement on the Russian invasion.
Here’s what was on Obama’s mind as the Russian army plunged deep into the heart of the Georgian democracy and bombed civilians:
“I’m going to get a plate lunch. I might go to Zippy’s. I might go to Rainbow Drive-In. I haven’t decided yet. Get some Zip Min. I’m going to go get some shave ice. I’m going to go body surfing at an undisclosed location. I’m going to see my tutu — my grandma — and I’m going to watch my girls play on the beach, and once in a while I might go into the water. But mostly I’m going to watch them.”
Then, the New Decider made a decision. He announced he was going “to go body surfing at some undisclosed location.”
That inspirational, transformational, post-partisan, post-racial statement had an inspirational effect on the Russians. They were further inspired to ramp up their military offensive and encouraged that “citizen of the world” Obama was just the man for Putin to man-handle in years to come.
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John McCain has had Vladimir Putin ‘nailed’ for nearly a decade. He sees the burgeoning of the new Russian ‘bloc’ party and has been adamant from the moment this happened that Russian must STAND DOWN. Obama once again is exposed as a child among men.
America must elect a proven leader as its next president. Here’s hoping the Kool Aid wears off…
Take care,
Patrick
Agreed.
Did he send his spiritual advisor a postcard?
Well, the man IS on vacation. You can’t expect him to deal with the little inconveniences of being presumptuous Leader of the Free World when there is body-surfing to do, and shaved ice to be consumed.
Not to worry. Once he is elected, The Messiah will mandate that nothing bad can happen in the world while he’s “at rest.” Adoring crowds will cheer. Women will weep. Children will play on the beach.
Sheesh–and they had the unmitigated nerve to ridicule Hillary’s “3 a.m. call” ad.
And don’t forget, men will get tingles up and down their legs!
The Security Council suggestion, the ‘Olympic Ideal’ understatement, and Tim Kaine’s suggestion that Obama’s ceasefire suggestion was being followed– this has been just embarrassing to watch. Just embarrassing.
Right.
So why did Putin ignore Obama’s kumbaya speech in Berlin - when he crossed into Georgia in the first place?
You know, no borders, citizen of the world, etc.
oh Kaine destroyed his career with that one, he has mainlined the kool aid and is a laughing stock…
I knew this from the start when he declared his “unconditional” willingness to speak to world leaders, including hostile regimes. He has NO CLUE re: the potential dangers of foreign policy, and the critical role of appearance. JFK said that foreign policy was 75% appearance. That’s why Hillary’s emphasis on carrots & sticks (strong statements and accountable actions by opponents to evaluate their intentions) is exactly right. He is extremely naive, and it puts us all in danger. That in itself is a key reason not to support him. I have never voted Republican in my life, but I trust McCain to keep us safe. I cannot say the same for this self-absorbed body surfer.
I agree. That statement of his was my first clue — back when I was still open to a number of the Democratic candidates — that Barack Obama is a newb who has no idea what “being president” really requires.
And it turned me against him. Not because I disagree with negotiation with foreign leaders, but because I realized this guy was naive in the worst way: the arrogant kind.
also agree. He has telegraphed his weakness and naivite and Putin is grinning from ear to ear. Ukraine must be mighty nervous, I know I am..
Hill or MAC 08!!!
You can bet your ass that if Obama wins in November, he will be tested right out of the box by Putin/Medvedev in the same way that Kruschev tested Kennedy back in the early 1960s. The difference between then and now is that Kennedy had balls. Obama doesn’t.
Yes he did but the reason we got into trouble was Kruschev’s thinking that Kennedy was weak. He soon found out otherwise but he really thought Kennedy would wimp out. Putin will definitely see Obama the same way…difference being that Obama will beg for Kumbayah talks.
Last time around the Dems nominated a wind surfer. Now it’s a body surfer. They can’t be this stupid.
Oh, yes they can.
Obviously, they are.
OMG Barack Hussein is a “shoe-be” on top of everything else.
>>>>He is extremely naive, and it puts us all in danger. That in itself is a key reason not to support him
Exactly! NObama! NOHussein!
Am I missing something here? Neither Obama nor McCain is the President. George Bush is the president. This thread makes no sense.
BTW, there has been a provisional cease fire so to the author– Larry Johnson, you are a day late and a dollar short.
There is no cease fire. Don’t make up things.
As for the candidates, this is a good test. We want to hear their reaction to a world crisis. Don’t forget they are also speaking as elected officials.
It doesn’t matter who the president is, Obama hopes to be, and if he is clueless he should stick to his plate lunch and shut his yap. Claiming that Russia’s actions don’t live up to the Olympic ideal, and suggesting the UN issue a condemnation from the Security Council, where Russia can just issue a veto, points out how inept and unqualified he is to comment on anything approaching importance. He didn’t have to solve this, but his comments should give anyone enough pause to stay well clear. If you don’t mind a president that doesn’t even know who is on the UNSC, then vote your heart, with my blessing.
morgan
The similarity between Dubyua and Obama are striking. 9/11 Bushie was reading a goat story to kids having a grand time…
Now, Obambi is in Hawaii vacationing with his security detail and his wife and kids don’t even visit the Typical Upper Middle Class White Grannie (former presidnet of a bank)
Choice this election:
McCain Bush-lite
Obama Bush-lite
The real leader had her nomination stolen by Chicago thugs
What a man thinketh, so he doeth. Where there is smoke there is fire, but when there is only wind between the ears he talketh.
Mickeymouseus, Verse 2
Yes, you are missing something here. The Russians, in calculating how far they can take things, are, of course, watching the reactions not only of the lame-duck US president, but by his likely successor.
Obama needs to be clear how he would act if he were to become president, and send clear signals about this to the Russians. If Obama (or rather, whichever of the Obama cabal is reigning supreme at the moment) intends to force the Russians to cease their incursions he should say so.
His ‘Mars Attacks’ ‘Why-can’t-we-just-all-get-along?’ type of statement is most unhelpful, and is tantamount to giving the Russians carte-blanche to do as they wish.
Yo, hot green, yes there is a provisional cease fire, but Russia is IGNORANT IT thus there is no cease fire. Do you think that piece of shit the chosen one is that powerful as to just speak and all is right in the world? Wake the FUCK up! The Georgian president said and I quote, diplomacy is not working here!
Your an idiot and you are an embarrassment to our intelligence so you better prey he doesn’t get elected because if he does this is exactly the kind of stuff that is going to happen in your own back yard!
here is a quote from CNN, I did not use Fox, because you would think they were racist or something stupid like that.
“Medvedev said earlier that he had ordered an end to military operations against Georgia, but Tbilisi reported more attacks after the statement was made.”
So I bet you are just counting the days until your chosen one takes a vacation while this is happening right here in our country right.
Yet he hugged Bush in 2004 what a hypocrite.
Obama is a child among men…and women. The Hillary’s statement in april was awesome! Obama is a joke!
McCain, hopefully, has more sense than warmongering idiot Bush. But Sen. McCain must engage Russia too and not allow the N.Y.-trained lawyer Georgia presidnet Saakolovish Mikheil to antagonize the Russians in their own backyard!
What did the Georgia unbaked, immature president want to prove by invading the 2 regions? his own country people are heavily critizing Georgia’s Obama-like inexperienced president who started this mess to begin with–giving a great opportunity for an already expansionist Russian to bring in the troops….
Hillary back in March had advised Bush to develop a prudent policy for Georgia to be eventually enveloped in NATO….Bush The Moron didn’t listen, to his detriment. Now we have Obama, another Moron, or I should say “BUSH-LITE” and god help us.
lets hope McCain at least appreciates the grave danger and walks the middle road and not try to outdo the Ruskies in his “tough talk” that led to Iraq in Dubya Moron Junior’s case!
We need a pragmatic, experienced, diplomatic and tough Leader–Unfortunately Sen. Hillary’s nomination was stolen by the Obama DNC thugs, just like he stole the election from AA Sen. alice Palmer in ‘96 in Chicago’s political sewers…
I’d say we’re screwed for another 4 years…let’s hope it’s Bush-lite under McCain. As for Obama Presidency….God and Prayer may help us in the other world….
Hillary ‘08
The scary thing about Obama is not just that he will let people like Putin walk all over the US, but also how he will act once he decides he needs to look manly. He has already pushed the wrong buttons a few times, heaven forbid he gains access to the red one.
Before I even read the entire article, would ya look at that scrawny body? lmao And, those chicken legs!
Sugar, he looks ill. The cross country runners from Kenya look healthier than he does.
My AA co-worker says it’s because he’s scared because he has not got a clue what he is doing.
I’ve heard it said he’s got an eating disorder. You know, Michelle gets up at like 4am daily for a rigorous work-out with a trainer. I suspect he gets after her for having any extra meat on her bones (tho she is in great shape). He, otoh, opts for the skeletor look.
The guy can’t even finish one waffle!
I’m sure Hillary and Johnny Mac are even less appealing in the nude. ;->
Oh the slobbering lap dog is back!
Stop the hate!
Donna, nobody hates him. But why is he our nominee? We aren’t worried because the man is black, we are worried because he’s GREEN.
You don’t have to convince me!
I’m talking to the hater lap dog:-)
Stop the hate!
I agree Manu…McCain’s statements have been interlaced with terms “we” and “world community” and “NATO” and “G7″, showcasing his view that the WORLD must stand up as one beacon of freedom and slap Putin HARD with word, sanction and deed. Not US, not ME, not I. But Obama was all “I call for” and very solo…
He’s flat out purely and simply out of his league here.
Take care,
Patrick
You know, Larry, I appreciate your critique of Obama. I’m not going to vote for him, based on his inexperience.
But I don’t agree about Georgia. The initial invasion was Georgia into S.Ossetia, killing 2000 civilians and wiping out 10 Ossetian villages.
I’m reading in the international press that the Georgian military was being trained and advised by Israeli military officers, and that the Bush administration gave Georgia $40 million to beef up their military with high-tech weapons shipped by Israel.
While I appreciate your post is about bashing Obama’s handling of the issues….and with that, I agree….
I don’t agree with blaming this on Russia.
Saakishvili’s aggression, under cover of the Olympics, was quite stupid and irrational.
NATO should never admit such a hot head into its organization.
And that’s all I’m gonna say.
Mary, you are correct that Georgia did indeed make the first ‘physical’ strike, but only because of what Moscow had been doing and fostering in Ossetia for years now. Was Georgia’s response to Moscow’s antics out of line? From a humanitarian stand-point, yes. But the question begs: If, let’s say, Iran was fostering the succession of Maine, what would we do? I know, very hypothetical and a stretch of an analogy, but that’s kind of how I see Georgia’s stance on this. Anyway, not trying to start a flame war and I hope this comes off as a respectful response.
Take care,
Patrick
Patrick, I am sure you meant to say, “let’s say, Iran was fostering the succession of GEORGIA, what would we do?”
and the answer would be easy: call in Jimmy Carter and organize everybody into home-building teams. Duh! Even Obama coulda’ answered that!
well that is true that russia responded and i think georgia made a big mistake. but putin is way smarter than our current crop of know nothings. mccain is on the right track and i am sure he knows about georgia. i think he is saying don’t try expansion which i think is on putin’s mind. so it is more complicated than most think. clearly obama’s response is a nonstarter.
Dear Mary,
When analyzing events, it is important to look at their historical context. While it is true that the Georgians moved their troops into the breakaway territory, it must be appreciated that this action took place after a long series of provocations by the Russians. For example, the Russians gave the South Ossetians Russian passports. The Russian’s baited the Georgians. The Georgians refused lots of bait before they bit. The point to take here is that it is wrong to assume that the event started with the Georgian action in South Ossetia.
SM
From today’s McClatchy newspapers (the only paper that had true facts about the invasion of Iraq):
“Bush administration officials, worried by what they saw as a series of provocative Russian actions, WARNED Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to avoid giving the Kremlin an excuse to intervene in his country militarily, US officials said Monday.
But in the end, the warnings failed to stop the Georgian president–a Bush favorite—from launching an attack last week…”
This CLEARLY shows that Saakashvili was warned NOT to do what he did, and that he initiated the action, against the advice of US officials.
A hothead like this should never be allowed entry into NATO.
Mary.
I actually agree with you in what you say.
To be honest with you all I trust the Russian government than the USA government. Bush is only interest in oil and military gains. Matter of fact with all the money Bush has bought Georgia with billions of dollars.
I am getting really tired and pissed off the way Bush&Co are hell bent in invading other country’s, Whether it be through war, blood money. America is the axil of evil in this world no thanks to Bush&Co.
Russia respects strong leaders. Obama is not strong at all. Russia will walk right over Obama. McCain would be able to make constructive dialogue, because he knows the history of Russia. Hillary would be the same. It is so important to elect a strong leader. I for one am glad Putin is around. I am getting really pissed off that America thinks it rules the world we all live in.
The world needs Putin..he is the peace maker, strange though it sounds. He won’t put up with any of Bush&Co bullshit.
Mary, everyone knows only a fool would listen to Bush, who probably has a single digit IQ. Anyone with a brain would do the exact opposite of what Bush says.
Why bring up Israel? It’s OK for Russia, Iran, US, France, UK and a host of other nations to train other forces but not Israel. Georgia has been bullied by Russia for years and needs help. South Osseria is a part of Georgia. This war is about gas and oil. Your commie dogma stinks.
It was stupid of Georgia to act in a way that gave even a fig-leaf of legitimacy to Putin’s response. They should have kept cool until they had NATO membership. If they were expecting the US to back them up in a hot war against Russia, they were dreaming. And John McCain is dreaming if he thinks we can do anything but make growly noises and take this to the UN.
NATO membership….
I still trust McCain more than Bambi.
McCain said he looked into Putin’s eyes and saw the letters KGB…very funny.. very astute and a whack at GWB #43 and bambi the waffler…the country needs a real man/woman not the children we are generally given. McCain or Hillary 2008.
Oh and I think the Clintons have a surprise for the convention a BIG one and news dropped like a bomb just before the convention…bambi’s hpuse of cards may well crumble….and soon
True enough…but aren’t you immensely joyful at the prospect of NOT having a guy who’s enjoying himself in Hawaii and using remote-control methods to reach his audience to inform about his VP choices….while the Ruskies (justifiably) retaliate the Georgian BlaBla Boy’s aggression? Mikheil had to learn a lesson but I am not sure that either McCave nor Obambi’s Perrenial Britney Moment could responde effectively!
Hillary’s response back in March to Georgian and European allies issues (MAP) was masterful in its comprehensiveness and insights.
Choice is vote for either:
-A bumbling old fool
-A stuttering young fool
God help us all and may the Pumas roar!
Simanov -
Your warmongering one-saided myopic comment is not realistic and does have an odour….
Thanks to the warmongering idiot Bushie Dubya, the U.S. has a trillion$$$dollar deficit and spends 10 bilion bucks a month on a futile war in Iraq that created 4 million refugees. you don’t give a shit, of course! 2 million homeless in their own country! And a quarter million girls working the Sex Trade in Jordan and Syria to support their kids and parents still living after the American butchering of the Iraqi country! For goddam GREED and OIL for your SUVs!
Now tell me wouldn’t you want to have 10 billion bucks for Universal Health care and pregnancy leave and social security and police forces for security and other life-expectancy=enhancers?
why are you so McCavellian in your dogma. You’re as bad as the Obamarama punks who think their guy is a ‘cool dude’. No, Bush is an idiot Warmonger and McCave is sick old guy who can’t hold his tongue with his temper. He wasn’t given Psychiatric Therapy at teh Hanoi Hilton! Give it to him before it’s too late!
Georgia was responding to ongoing hit n run attacks from within S Ossetia IIRC…..
Mary -
I am using small “m” as you see, Mary!
Anyway, I read your post and I agree with it, having read N.Y. Times earlier…seems to make similar point to your insight. Let’s hope the bumbling Fool and the Stuttering Britney Moment Forever have a religious epiphany and escape to a monastery–Mount Athos preferably!!!!
PUMAS ROAR
BRING BACK HILLARY!!!
Leave Barack alone!!!! He’s trying to relax in the 58th state..Let Jimmy Carter solve the Georgia problem after all he lives there…Just leave Barack alone…He just wants to spend some quality time with his tutu and read Text Messaging for Dummies. Please everyone just leave him alone……..
That’s right. I am sure Obama’s people have everything under control. After they consult with George Soros and Zbigniew and maybe Jimmy, too, they’ll tell Obama what to think.
Now would be a really bad time for him to once again stick his foot in his mouth.
Afterall, if George W could not be disturbed on his vacation by Katrina, why should we expect Barack to be disturbed by some conflict halfway around the world.
So, yes, totally agree. Just leave him alone.
I loved the joke about Obama calling up Governor Sonny Perdue (of the State of Georgia), and encouraging him to call out the National Guard to get control of the situation, and then resigning himself to the possible loss of Georgia as a State, with the consolation that we still have the remaining 56 States.
I weighed in on the Patrick comment above, but yours is priceless.
Thank you from Cut & Paste Land!
Ugh, he makes me so sick. I saw a t-shirt for sale on some site the other day that had the emblems of the Soviet Union with the words, “Obama is My Slave” on them. The whole world doesn’t love him. They know that if he were to become president, they could all run rough-shod over this country. What in the hell do they care about whether our presidential candidates are good for US or not? They don’t! Obama is the weakest link and they LOVE IT!
Yes, nobody is thinking of the country and what is good (which in my opinion would be Hillary.) The repubs want this dummy so they can beat him easily, the international community wants him because they can walk all over him and consolidate their own power in the world. Repubs want the weaker opponent but what if per chance this guy got elected?
Repubs are bashing their own and acting like they WANT Obama to win!!
An Obama presidency will be a boost to the Repub Party while they restructure.
Isn’t it nice Obama is able to enjoy walking on an Hawaiian beach and after an Easter holiday in the Bahamas! Meanwhile regular folk can barely manage.
He’s no worker like Hillary. Another president who takes a lot of vacation time and likes to work out a lot? C’mon people wake up! Hire an adult for God’s sake!
I did not read this comment before responding to the comment above but that is exactly how I feel ..Hire an adult …these children will ruin everything they are so selfish and self indulgent…and soooo lazy.
The only war Obama is interested in is the one he’s going to wage against the middle class. There is no democracy without a middle class and free, balanced press. One down one to go.
Obama’s only good at waging war against the American people - and especially fellow Democrats who supported Hillary.
I liken this to someone who’s good at bullying their younger siblings and claims what a big shot they are, and then when the high school kids come along, hides behind the tree.
Does America want an appeaser version of Dubya, especially with Putin and Ahmadinejad on the loose?
No.
But the world would love it.
Well, duh, he’s a citizen of the world. If something goes wrong here, he’ll just jet back to Indonesia with that “mystery” passport of his, denouncing that evil capitalist USA for the rest of his days. Give him a break, HATER!
finally a use for my FTW applique on my denim vest from back in the days, D’oh!
A comment on Bill Richardson, a possible VP:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/european_war_enters_the_presid.html
richardson? what can i say? first you cast over hillary and now you leave common sense at home and cling to a loser’s dogma. no thanks
Oh Please, please please, Obama, take Richardson for your VP, we in New Mexico want him OUTTA here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Turncoat, traitor, jerk.
Yes, the illiteracy and the ignorance of those wishing to run the United States is stupefying - feels like we’re turning over a nuclear arsenal to toddlers!
Well, Obama (Soetoro?) is emotionally about 3 years old. You might be onto something there.
Richardson is a pig. I can’t even look at him–he’s so desperate to cling to BO’s rock star coattails. Judas.
BWAAAAHAAAAHAAA!!!
ahh Judas the gift that keeps on givin’!!
frakkin moron (doesnt even meet the IQ bar for maroon)
yeah, Bill Richardson may have held some high appointments, but he is essentially an idiot and a major kiss arse. He goes right where he thinks his bread will be buttered–but neither Hillary nor Barky would even consider him.
So will the new White House West be in the Hawaiian Islands? Will the new relaxation be body surfing as opposed to brush clearing? With the same results?
Exactly! John McCain has 9 million-dollar homes he can take naps in all over America! For him, the Western White House can be any room with a TV tray and a heated throw-blanket. He is a man of the people! And Cindy gives him an allowance, so he can be his OWN MAN, not a puppet like Obama.
I doubt that McCain gets an allowance from Cindy, as he has a full-time job. At least the McCains didn’t pay for any of their homes with Iraqi food for oil $.
Cindy and McCain have a prenup. They’re classier than you, RunningDog!
In addition to his homes, he has a solid record of service to his country.
In case you hadn’t noticed.
where is michelle these days? no photos? no verbal discussion of how pathetic the usa is, michelle? they are hiding her. and they’ll spring her back on america after barfy get the dnc nod.
So, what exactly do you expect of Obama? Canceling his vacation and returning to Washington would probably not accomplish anything (candidate though he may be, he’s still just a junior senator), and as recent events have shown, the situation in the Caucasus appears to have escaped the control of most (if not all) of the world’s most prominent and powerful leaders. Putin is clearly in the driver’s seat, and as a rather well-known Soviet hand said some time back (name withheld for reasons of confidentiality), he doesn’t give a rats ass what the world thinks of the action.
Really, this kind of commentary is immensely hypocritical. Just a few weeks ago this community was practically up in arms that Obama was touring Iraq, Afghanistan and parts of Europe in a way that made him out to be the incumbent. When he made a sweeping speech in front of hundreds of thousands of Germans, he was accused of being presumptuous (to use the least inflammatory term I’ve seen cross these pages). Yet now, when he’s assuming a low-key approach (as I think many would agree is the appropriate response for a presidential candidate), you accuse him of fiddling while Rome burns.
So Larry… what would you have him do?
drop out of the race would be my suggestion.
he would make a fantastic write-in candidate
voters could even put smiley faces on the ballots
You are an idiot–pure and simple. Low-key approach when there is an aggressive military action?! McCain saw this coming a long time ago. And BO’s “world tour” was nothing but a campaign ad, it was not a serious diplomatic attempt. You and your dilettante leader deserve each other.
N.M., respectfully, it’s not what people who might be interested in voting for him would have him do, it’s what he has done. It is the ‘first’ reaction that gives us a window into how a prospective candidate thinks.
I think what you’re reading here is more reaction to just how horribly unprepared this young man was to even run for president let alone actually take office.
Respectfully,
Patrick
say something other than that which shows him to be an imbecile.
he could do some reading, you know, get the history, and say something stronger than his milque toast response, which later morphed into McCain’s response.
Obama is an idiot. Yes, he should not be on vacation now, he should be campaigning. But I like the rest from this idiot’s words. Everyone is advancing but Obama/Soetoro now.
I’d actually like him to admit he is in over his head and just drop out.
Well, it was Barack Obama who said we were waiting for him to fix everything. This thing with Russia isn’t going to disappear overnight; these repercussion will be there long after the next president takes the oath of office to “protect and defend” our nation and its Constitution so we need to know all three candidates ideas on how to deal with it. This is the real 3 am call coming a little early, you know. Russia’s back!
And has anyone forgotten that novice president GWB ignored al Qaida intelligence given to him by the previous administration in favor of some vague new plan that was never implemented before 9/11?
Does Obama think Putin will sit and wait to see which of the three he has to deal with in November? If he was an experienced commander in chief he would know that the enemy always moves while the target is in disarray and Obama’s world tour declaring himself a “symbol” put the onus on him to produce results; too late to un-ring that bell.
(And you might want to check out those German totals, heard it was more like 20,000 reported by the German press until the Obama campaign advisers who went on this “fact finding” campaign tour revised it.)
oh oh mr kot-ter over here over here!!
I know I know!!
he could maybe like pretend he gives a flyin fxxk about the WORLD and what might happen in the aftermath of the Democratically elected leader being threatened and his territory invaded by another superpower
by like pretending he cared and coming back to the US mainland to go into talks with his like 300 foreign policy advisers and stuff like that!
Hey did you hear he runs some NATO in Europe Cmte or something, hmmm I did! like maybe he could ask Joe Biden, his daddy, to call the CMTE members and like have some sort of meeting about like NATO and Europe and pressuring Russia or something like that..
or he could give a BIG SPEECH! with a GIANT FLAG!
hey maybe while he is here on mainland he could talk to you know Americans about how they cant get to WORK cause of gas and had to cancel THEIR vacations and stuff too (you know like MAC)
but I know he is WEAK and has to have a SECOND vacation within 5 months!!
BWAAAHAAAAHAA!!!
Immensely hypocritical you say? Don’t tell me, you’re also shocked and appalled. And at times you even take umbrage at the comments.
HARRRUMPH
Yes, totally upside down. He should have taken the low profile when attempting to educate himself about Europe.
The candidate should not have been making any contradictory statements acting as if he’s still in the love fest of worshipers and now he can just go body surfing.
I love coming to this site. It makes my day to know that there are this many people with little or nothing to do all day.
Yep …. here you are. Proving your own point … I mean, there was a point to your post, right? Right?
and you’re one of us?
Like you apparently.
foolish person. your moniker just shows how shallow you are. You don’t even think about your country.
so what are you doing here? I can smell your fear a mile away.
Oh crap; AnyoneButClinton must be my boss.
Then there’s the leaked campaign strategies of the Clinton campaign. It’s never too late to dump on Hillary.
Imagine someone leaking Obama e-mails: public stoning would be too good. And it would be racist besides.
And yesterday that cute little Jake Tapper compared us to the Japanese soldiers found hiding in caves in the Far East, long after WWII had ended.
Repeat after me: PUMA
There’s a fuller discussion here about the use of the Security Council when one of the members with veto powers commits the transgression:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjU4MmUzOTNhOGUzMWI1NTI5YjBjOGQwZThhNzhiMzU=
In the end, the UN is really the toothless fairy.
I know the Obarnum camp leaked Clinton campaign strategies. This shows that they still see her as a threat, they know Obarnum hasn’t closed the deal, and they know that Hillary can still walk away with the official DNC nomination. The very presence of these Obamabot trolls proves that they are scared.
Yeah, they had access to her internal doc’s, you people are loony, go seek help
interesting comment by Tapper there
those Japanese were HONORED as heroes
they stuck to what they thought was right
Ill take the analogy as a badge of honor
Don’t Barack for Georgia
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24171046-5000117,00.html
Sorry. Votes, not prayers.
Thanks for the link. Looks like Barry just failed the 3AM test.
Right. Call McCain at 3 o’clock in the morning because Russia is up to something and you’ll probably find him strung out on Ambien.
Fortunately John’s got great instincts about how to deal with emergencies involving Russians. It’ll probably be alright if makes some decisions while still asleep.
Call “Barack Obama” @ 3 o’clock in the morning because Russia is up to something and you’ll probably find him strung out on Crackrocks.
He will then forward your call to Hillary.
Fortunately, Obama’s got great instincts about how to deal with emergencies, which is why he will call in Hillary to get the job done.
The only unfortunate difference between your inference about Obama’s use of mind altering drugs and mine about McCain is that mine happens to be currently true.
Um Barky admitted to using, pot and coke…he’s a dirtbag.
I believe about half of the adult population has probably tried an illegal substance at some point in their lives. This is pretty much a non-issue. Personally I wish they’d just decriminalize pot and be done with it. I’m sick of the hypocrisy.
Marijuana is the largest cash crop in the United States, now surpassing corn, wheat, soybeans–everything. It should be legalized and taxed, because the people who want it are getting it anyway, and because the state and federal governments could use the money. It’s non-addictive. It’s certainly no more socially harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Nor is it so dangerous. The number of deaths directly or indirectly attributable to marijuana each year are less than 10. The number is so low such incidents are statistically non-existent.
He admits to doing illegal drugs. He says that he stopped, and since Barack never goes back on his word, we should believe everything he says.
JUST SAY NO ……deal!
1. Crackish body
2. Always lying, Chronic dishonesty
3. Can’t speak off the cuff
4. Hanging out with a “bad crowd” (Rezko)
5. Secretive or suspicious behavior (COLB)
6. Moodiness, irritability, or nervousness (can’t I just eat my waffles)
7. loss of interest in family and family activities (hasn’t visited his grandma in long time, stays only an hour)
Can we give this man a urine test? lol
I’m not all that keen on the idea of a president running with his instincts, responding predictably and reflexively to provocation. Initial restraint followed by thoughtful words and carefully considered action is generally a more reliable and productive approach. It’s also a hell of a lot safer.
Have we forgotten that Russia is a major nuclear power? It is also a resurgent force in the world. That the United States is the single dominant power–the last remaining superpower–is a dangerous delusion. I would have thought Bush’s quick wrap-up of Iraq would have demonstrated that, if nothing else. We don’t need another military complication in our lives at the moment. We’ve got more than we can deal with on our plate already.
Just let the man eat his waffles.
When Putin sees what a deep, peaceful, inspirational soul that Obama is while strolling amidst the beauty of Hawaii, he and all world leaders will want the same thing. They will flock to Obama and seek council with him. It is not by chance that Obama was raised in the inspiring state of Hawaii. We do not need the U.N. when we have Barack Obama and the sandy beaches of the Aloha State.
BooBooooooooooooo:
Peace and tranquility baby!
Stop the hate!
Under other circumstances, it would be funny to watch Obama change positions — from showing “restraint” to today’s latest “Russia must withdraw.” But it’s a real war, with bombs and innocent victims and a violation of another country’s borders by the world’s former aggressor in chief. Obama, the commander in chief wannabee is pathetic. Watched McCain’s “Town Hall” in Pennsylvania about an hour ago and he spoke with clarity, authority and off the cuff, working the stage and the crowd as usual. He received a standing ovation for his remarks on the Russia/Georgia crisis. I have never voted Republican. Looks like there’s a first time for everything. When all is said and done, the birth certificate controversy, the “tape,” and all the other stuff do not matter. This situation between Russia and Georgia is a tragedy for those people, but it really shines the light on Obama the powder puff. He can job down the beach all he likes, evoking Kennedyesque images. But it’s one dimensional. He’s starring in his own comic strip. The real world came knocking on the door this week and McCain answered. I am ashamed to see my Democratic Party look so weak. They crank out ads in response to McCain’s “celebrity” ad (and wasn’t that on the money?!), but the Democrats cannot address serious issues. As Obama jogs down the beach, I cannot help but think … it isn’t about looking Presidential, it’s about being Presidential.
All this talk about the economy is well & good, but in the final analysis a president’s first job is as Commander-in-Chief and his first responsibility is the security of the United States. In this regard, the difference between the two candidate is striking. McCain is clearly the better choice. By a mile. McCain sees the world as it is, not as he wishes it could be.
I would laugh if it weren’t so TRAGIC!
The Democrats W. Bush 3.0, only WORSE!
Traits of a Narcissist
.They are successful and goal-oriented,
but show no empathy or concern for others.
.They are charismatic, well spoken and funny.
.They disrespect boundaries and others’ privacy.
.They patronize and criticize others.
.They can be cruel and abusive toward peers,
but charming in front of their managers.
.They expect special treatment and priveleges.
.They are manipulative and pit co-workers against one another.
.They abhor criticism or disagreement.
.They are anxious or paranoid, reacting with rage when
they can’t control a situation or their behaviors are exposed.
Mr. Johnson…I hope to god that photo is not some prophetic picture from …”On the Beach”….
This guy is not texting me ANY “good vibrations”…
“I might go to Zippy’s”… and get me some “flip-floppery”…
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Speaking of Zippy, I heard BO saying “just words” then he said…
“My boxer shorts just went on a rampage through a Long Island bowling alley.”
I’m Zippy BO the Pinhead and I’m totally committed to the festive mode.
BO sings I am Zippy….(NOT)
“http://www.zippythepinhead.com/I_mZippy.mp3″
Off Topic:
The above quote is at the bottom of the article.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/12/politics/fromtheroad/entry4344144.shtml
All I will say is what an eyesore for the landscape of Ohio. When will this madness end.
Oh and by the way. The DNC could not organise a piss-up in a brewary. The DNC do not want to win the elections. What a dirty party they are. There is only one person who could win the elections and that is Hillary. If Hillary is not the candidate, then I say vote McCain. I say no to Hillary as VP.
Hillary for President
“Barns for Obama”, are you kidding me? Billboards in the heart of America’s farm country?
This is an advertising blitz, not a Presidential campaign. Are we now going to see VWs on the streets painted with Obama’s logo-like the Geek Squad or Truly-Nolan’s Pest control cars with mouse ears?
Does any know how we can get hold of flocks of geese/birds anything with wings, so they can all drop their load (shit) on these Obama Barns.
Some nitwit must have seen the hex signs on PA Dutch barns and got a brainstorm
Ohio farmers and O-Hole logos, oh sure that’ll work
Geez, now Obama is giving farmers more chores in their already busy day.
TeaMug you are a great ally.
Thank you Miss E. I am very honoured to be able to help and support in America’s historic elections of all time. As some of you are aware, I am unable to vote or donate, but I can contribute my time and energy.
Hillary Clinton as President would do wonders for the people and around the globe.
let’s keep fighting for Hillary.
obama marketing… “but wait!” “you get more!” “For just $19.95 you get an extra light beam to shine out yer arse!”
Obama is handling this situation poorly. No surprise there.
Col. Pat Lang provides some missing perspective on the situation on his blog Sic Semper Tyrannis. He also reports Israel has cut off weapons sales to Georgia.
I think we will look back in November to this week, and realize that this was the week Obama’s campaign simply fell apart. While John McCain is commenting intelligently on the Russia-Georgia conflict, Obama is showing the world how clueless and unprepared he is to deal with our real problems overseas.
Hope you enjoy your vacation, Barack. It’s destroying your candidacy. And no one could be more happy about it than me.
This is the week that Americans should be realizing that the foreign policy of John McCain is a direct extension of the foreign policy of George W. Bush; that both Bush and McCain are frontmen for far-right neoconservative forces behind the Project for the New American Century.
With Bush, the strongest connection was Cheney, although half the people involved with the Bush administration belong to PNAC and subscribed to the organization’s ideologies.
With McCain the obvious connection is Randy Scheunemann, McCain’s top foreign policy advisor. Scheunemann is high up in the PNAC organization. He was president of their Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. He helped map out and prepare the way for the U.S. invasion of Iraq in advance of both Bush’s 2000 election and 9/11.
Scheunemann is a paid lobbyist, who represented the interests of the Republic of Georgia in Washington DC until March 2008. After March 2008 he no longer did that. On paper, at least. He continues to be an owner of Orion Strategies, the corporation that contracted to represent Georgia in Washington DC April 2008 on. This is kind of like Cheney breaking his ties with the Oil Industry on paper when he became VP.
Georgia has bought a line of influence leading directly to John McCain. And John McCain’s hard anti-Russian line might be seen as a reflection of that.
ziggy played guitar..
good song..
ziggy - Whether or not Bush & McCain are “frontmen for far-right neoconservative forces behind the Project for the New American Century.” has no direct bearing on this controversy.
The issue here is whether Georgia was justified in its agressive strike, and/or whether Russia is justified in its agressive response. Given what has happened so far, what role should America play, if any? Both Georgia and Russia seem to have acted thinking they would slip under the radar of world opinion just long enough to get away with it, but things have turned out rather badly for all concerned. At the moment, Russia has the upper hand and Georgia is seriously outgunned and outmanned. Should the US allow things to escalate? That’s the issue, and it doesn’t matter if you’re rightwing or leftwing: the bombs falling are apolitical machines, but they’re killing real people. For the USA to use its influence and power to insist on a ceasefire and a negociated settlement instead of a bloodbath is hardly a ‘rightwing’ policy.
But Obama, made his naive why-can’t-we-just-all-get-along? comment and went on vacation. Reporters found him and he’s petulant and whiny that anyone should bother him about presidential policy stuff while he’s got more important priorities like his next meal and body surfing to deal with. Obama is so inexperienced and ignorant and self-centred that he fails to see that his inattention now could make this mess much, much worse.
Whether Obama’s position in this matter aligns with Bush or McCain is not so very important. Just because someone is a Republican doesn’t make them automatically immoral or politically incompetent.
Apparently the government of Georgia neglected to inform the Obama campaign of their intention to move Georgian troops and armour into South Ossetia and begin the shelling of Tskhinvali on the same day Obama’s family left for Hawaii.
On the first day of the Georgian military action, 12 Russian peacekeeping troops stationed in South Ossetia were killed. Another 150 Russian peacekeepers were wounded.
Not that this justifies the extent of the Russian response, but it certainly demonstrates that there are two sides to the argument.
McCain immediately came down on the side of the Georgians, characterizing the situation as Russian aggression against an ally of western democracy. He immediately started talking about a NATO response–NATO being one of the very things that the Russians have some very legitimate security concerns about.
Obama has also condemned the military escalation, but has been more even-handed and restrained. His criticism of the Russians has hardened and grown as their military actions have continued. The message there is that continuation of those actions will result in increasing levels of international disapproval, and increasing levels of damage to important international relationships.
Short of actual outside military intervention–which would only be seriously considered by a total lunatic–which approach is more likely to settle the situation most quickly?
Look, I’m no Barack Obama fan, but what is the guy supposed to do? For that matter, what are McCain and Bush supposed to do? The Russians are taking care of business in their own back yard, just like we did in Haiti, Grenada and Panama. They set a trap for this young Georgian president and he walked right into it.
The Russians know full well that the west isn’t going to war over Georgia. The most severe thing we’d be likely to do is kick them out of the G-8 and cut off their lines of credit, in response to which they’d cut off the natural gas pipelines to Europe just in time for them to freeze this upcoming winter. The fact that the west needs Russia’s oil & gas will prevent us from doing anything more than expressing righteous indignation and calling for another toothless U.N. resolution.
BUT … on the other hand, if we had our OWN domestic oil & gas reserves online and producing, THEN we could really inflict some economic pain on the Russians for their thuggery.
Yet another argument for opening up US oil & gas reserves to immediate exploration.
This morning on C Span, I heard Dr. Tracy Dove describe The Russia News Service- one of the oldest and most prominent independent English language internet sites providing breaking news about Russia.
Link to the Russia News Service,
http://www.einnews.com/russia/
From article on yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080808/pl_usnw/russia_media_in_full_propaganda_mode_as_war_breaks_out_with_georgia__russia_news_service_offers_complete_coverage
“Edited by an experienced Russia expert, Dr. Tracy Dove, the Russia News Service provides daily news coverage of Russias politics, business & economy, Chechnya as well as the developments in the former Soviet republics. In addition, the website monitors over 200 news topics from areas such as agriculture, energy, industry, health, etc.
Scanning more than 25,000 unique URLs and indexing nearly 80,000 new articles every 24 hours, the news is updated every half hour and delivered to readers via the website or in the form of email daily briefs.”
We need to pay very close attention to Russia situation for many reasons including fact that Sen Obama’s foreign policy advisor Z Brzenzski is paying close-VERY CLOSE- attention for many years now.
http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/1497.html
As if there weren’t 1,000 other reasons not to want Barack Obama as president, having a stammering, clueless idiot like Zbignew F. Brzinski as his foreign policy advisor is reason enough in and of itself to vote against him.
An Obama presidency would be Jimmy Carter, Part Deux. Personally, I’d much rather have a Bush third term than a replay of Jimmy Carter. Carter’s presidency was the nadir of U.S. political and economic influence in my lifetime.
Ziggy Brzezinski is making a comeback, bringing you Jimmy Carter Lite.
Obama makes me sick.
Obama looked sick before his vacation.
His hair is rapidly turning gray, he was not that gray before the primaries started, he looks so crackish! I think he recently went to the hospital to see about his hip. Has he released his medical records? McCain did.
We know and Obama knows that he’s in over his head. We should force Obama to release his medical records. Ex-crackhead and recent chain smoker doesn’t sound too healthy, imo. Addictive personality maybe?
Go ahead and drop out now Barry.
Does anyone have new pics of Deaniac? I heard he’s lost a lot of weight.
Rainbow Drive-In?
I thought that was the name of the new movie about “Barack Obama” and Sinclair?
But seriously, this is the 3am phone call, and it’s obvious that Obarnum isn’t ready.
Putin is KGB and wants to put the old Soviet Union back like it was. This increase in energy prices has put him in the drivers seat, Western Europe is dependent on Putin for fuel, mostly natural gas. Bush said he looked into his eyes and saw his soul, but I always knew he was a snake. This guy will be trouble for years to come, the new President is just a Putin puppet, I could see Putin’s arm up his back, pulling the stings that controled his mouth.
Bush looked into the mirror and saw a snake? The real enemy is Bush, not Putin. Please, can we have Obama as president now?
The real enemy is Obama.
Can we please have Hillary as President now?
One country’s freedom fighter is another country’s terrorist, lol
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Putin is KGB, why don’t you find out about that
[...] August 12, 2008 The Obama Doctrine Posted by PJ under precious | Tags: hawaii, obama, russia | http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/12/the-obama-doctrine/ [...]
You know If nothing in the world reminds me of Bush, it’s this. Please oh Please do not elect this fool as president. I understand his plight with his girls needing a dad. But this more than anything shows why maybe he should have waited a few more years to run.
I think the point is that, had Obama been president, none of this would have happened in the first place, because president Obama would take diplomacy seriously and would sit down to seriously discuss these types of issues with other world leaders.
Good one, “Freedom Fighter!” I’m laughing my ass off!
Are you the one in the McCain video who says barky “has such soft eyes”? Your post says “Yes!”
You know 7 year olds can post on the blog!
It isn’t until around the age of 8 that children start to have a real conception of their abilities. Let Freedom Fighter live in la la land since she really doesn’t know any better.
Stop the hate!
Of course! Leaders like Putin aren’t REALLY looking out for any economic or territorial advantage they can get, they’re just misunderstood scared lost little boys with daddy issues who just want to talk out their feelings.
Like Obama.
BWAAAAHAAAAHAAA!!!
OMG!!
BWAAAAHAAAAHAAA!!!!
if Bawacky were potus it wouldnt have happened?!?!
BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAHA!!
oh man that is the BEST CULT TROLL COMMENT EVAH!!!
Are you really that stupid? I am a supporter of George Bush, but it’s President Bush “diplomacy” with Russia that got us into this mess. Bush and Putin have been buddies from the beginning. Diplomacy with someone like Putin and Imanutjob doesn’t work.
I just got BANNED from Commenting at the Huff Post, what a bummer, I guess someone there didn’t like my ideas or thoughts. What don’t they like about FREE SPEECH?? I don’t use foul words or call anyone names, maybe they don’t like me writing about Barry Soetoro
Bingo!
The media ignores Obama’s FULL NAME - and I’m wondering if “Hussein” will be omitted from the history books.
just banned from huffuypissypot?
welcome! welcome to Democracy Island!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_QbVDlLbI
Larry and Susan and the team will try and make you comfortable here at NQ
as we recreate a fantasy of what Democracy was like pre Uhhbamabots and media sellouts!
Well I’m banned from NoQuarter at home. Welcome to the club!
so I guess you were working this last weekend.
Francis-you did answer any of my questions?
You began well here, but you lost the plot with your last two comments because you failed to take into consideration the fact that the US and EU have nowhere near the “domestic” petroleum reserves (proven or unproven, tapped or untapped) to replace what it gets from Russia and its clients and friends. Even if you make the argument that greater domestic production capacity is a good short term thing (which I think it is), you can’t argue that that capacity would be sufficient to inflict economic pain on Russia (or anyone else, for that matter).
Now, if expanded petroleum exploration were to be done in concert with a total rethink of how we “do” energy we’d probably be able to get to the point where Russia et al are no longer as important to our energy security. It’s thus a pity that McCain has resorted to demagoguery rather than articulating a viable energy strategy.
(And no, Obama isn’t blameless here; he’s just as guilty of pandering to the electorate on this issue, but at least he’s put a greater amount of effort into pushing non-petroleum sources of energy than has McCain.)
Estimates that I’ve seen for US reserves are 21 billion barrels on the outer continental shelf, 15 billion barrels in northern Alaska, and a mind-boggling 1.5 TRILLION barrels in the oil shale of the Rocky Mountain states!!! (This doesn’t count what’s left in Texas/Oklahoma and the Gulf of Mexico) Russia’s total oil reserves are estimated to be about 160 billion barrels. Current Russian oil production is about 9 millon barrels per day. Current US oil production is about 7 million barrels a day.
Had we opened up our reserves in the 1990’s to production, we could be coming very close to being replace a significant part of Russian production ourselves, in which case we would now be able to meaningfully affect Russian behavior in Georgia by threatening the cut off their credit instead of being totally impotent.
And I strongly disagree that McCain hasn’t articulated a viable energy strategy. On the contrary, he has called for immediately opening up US reserves to production (although his continued resistance to drilling in ANWR baffles me), more nuclear power plant construction, more refinery construction (hopefully in places other than the Houston ship channel so that a single Cat-5 hurricane can’t wipe out our refining capacity), increased use of flex fuels, and financial/tax incentives for alternative energy development and production. Contrasted to Obama’s “energy plan” which consists of no new drilling, no new nuclear plants, no new refineries, raising taxes on energy companies, keeping our tires inflated, and creating a huge new government bureaucracy to try and direct the allocation of billions of new tax dollars to the development of alternative energy technolgies, McCain’s policies look pretty damn sound to me.
Do you have a clue, or do you get paid to spout Rep. garbage? You completely misrepresent his plan, surprise, surprise, usually happens when you can’t win an argument on facts, right jr.?
Yesterday, the media took down Edwards.
Today they’re going after Clinton.
Coincidence?
That’s what they did during the primary.
And the reason the public never knew that Obama LIED about the Kennedys bringing his father to America!
Of course, the Kennedys also went along with Obama’s lie.
While I believe Russia was wrong in invading a sovereign nation, Georgia, it’s too easy to cast this matter in overly simplistic terms. What we must understand is that there have always been mistrust on both sides with regards to each other. The Georgians have a history of being defensive about their native son, Josef Stalin, especially since his atrocities came to light during the past decades.
In the early 1990s, Georgian president Shevardnadze did a little ethnic cleansing of his own, about 300-400K Ossetians to be precise, in areas claimed by Georgia. Incidentally these areas were considered part of Russia even before communist rule. The current Georgian leader Saakashvili is no saint either, though democratically elected, he and his government are mired in corruption. Georgia has to be part of NATO, otherwise Saakashvili’s promised reforms to Georgians would be seen as failure. That is why he tagged the US to be his big buddy. We in west have been arming and training the Georgian army near the backyard of Russia, and we wonder why this has further contributed to deteriorating relations between the two nations.
As anyone with reasonable knowledge of world history knows, Russia has a history of being attacked by foreign forces. This unique sensitivity to possible border conflicts, provoked or imagined, can be attributed to heightened sense of nationalism against the backdrop of Russia’s bloody history at the hands of outside conquerers.
To put it in another context, this invasion can be seen as a big brother (Russia) beating up the middle brother (Georgia), then middle brother tires of playing the victim role and decides to pummel the little brother (Ossetians). Little brother feels more akin to big brother and asks big brother for help. Middle brother gets beaten up by big brother again, and asks his big buddy (USA) to help him fight off big brother. Something like that.
As someone who is part Russian and who studied Slavic Studies and Russian in college, I can tell you that culturally we have actually liked and respected each other. For example, Russians have always admired Georgians for their shared love dancing. Many of the iconic Soviet dancers were actually ethnic Georgians, and believe me dancers were and are considered Gods in that part of the world. The tensions and ill-feelings are between the governments, not the people. That is why I believe this matter can still be settled through diplomatic means. Russia is not about to further risk the ire of the world by continuing this muscle flexing. Putin, despotic as he is, cannot be described as dumb.
Neither Obama nor McCain are president . Where are this admins people ? It’s their job to confront this situation , not the runners up for the job . Prez is smacking volleyball players butts in China , and where are Cheney and Condi ?
McCain is still in Cold War mode , seeing a red in every bush .
Oh Yeah , remember , Georgia invaded Ossetia .
Get real …
Why don’t you “get real” you idiot. Georgia didn’t “invade” South Ossetia because South Ossetia is actually part of Georgia!
And as for McCain being in “cold war mode”, it’s good that one of the candidates for president sees, and has always seen, Vladimir Putin for what he really is: a Stalinist autocrat.
Not to mention that there are now reports that South Ossetia started firing on Georgia. This was planned from the get go by Russia. It only took 24 hours for 20,000 Russian troops and a fleet of Russian tanks to get to the heartland of Georgia. On top of that, Russia was handing out Russian passports and IDs, like they were candy, to the people in South Ossetia right up until the Russian invasion. This was a setup to take over Georgia while the world was focussed on the Olympics.
So Georgia sent tanks, troops, and heavy artillary pouring into South Ossetia, and immediately began bombarding ethnic population center–killing 1,600 civilians in 24 hours, along with 15 official Russian peacekeepers? Then they start squawking aggression! when the Russians react?
Obviously Georgia was in no position to resist a large-scale Russian military response to their own provocative action. I mean, they mounted a massive attack and killed Russian peacekeepers. What the hell did they think the Russians would do?
The Georgians were counting on some outside assistance? Or outside pressure, to intimidate the Russians into inaction? Just who would that have been?
Ziggy
Exactly right. The Georgian President is an Obamabotic bimbo who was in cahoots with the conservatives when he trained as N.Y. lawyer there!
He’s a moron who thought he could attack without Russian retaliation! Something Obamarama Britney would do, right!
As for McCain, god help us with his friendship with the clueless arrogant Georgian president Saakalivoshsi Mikheil whatever….Can you see him enouraging another war…
Both Obamarama and McCave I view as BUSH-LITES
Pumas, start roaring up their posteriors…
Ossetia is a breakaway republic moron , why punish them for wanting independence . Aren’t we in Iraq because we thought they were tired of being under thumb ?
Obama has yet to convince me of his ability to to protect the American People…if you can’t pass the National Security threshold, then all the other issues don’t matter…Obama failed this test in my opinion…It’s Hillary or McCain…Obama just cannot be trusted, and so the Democratic Party proves what Republicans say…Dems are weak on National Security…and we need a proven Leader who understands this dangerous world…
Mark Penn praises McCain’s anti-Obama ad -
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/12/dem.ad/index.html
Fate gave Obama the chance to respond to an international crisis in a presidential manner…
what we got was the response of an ineffective middle-management suck up.
It doesn’t matter that he has no authority to actually do anything, it was a great audition moment, and he failed.
hey Larry, where’s the tape little man?
Obama, who is vacationing in Hawaii, said in a statement Tuesday: “Now is the time for action not just words. It is past time for the Russian government to immediately sign and implement a cease-fire. Russia must halt its violation of Georgian airspace and withdraw its ground forces from Georgia, with international monitors to verify that these obligations are met.”
Research isn’t obvious Larry’s strong suit, or the rest of this ilk. Too bad, your post goes down, kind of like your imaginary tape
well to be fair, Obama’s statement took a little time to decipher since it originally looked like this…
NOW SI DA TIEM FOR ACTION NOT JUST WORDS!11!1 LOL IT SI PAST TIEM FOR DA RUSIAN GOV3RNMENT 2 IMEDIAETLEY SIGN AND IMPLEMANT A CEAES-FIER!!11!11!1 LOL RUSIA MUST HALT ITS VIOLATION OF G3ORGIAN ARESPAEC AND WITHDRAW ITS GROUND FORCES FROM GEORGIA WIT INT3RNATIONAL MONI2RS 2 V3RIFY TAHT THESE OBLIGATIONS R MET!111!1 OMG LOL
text messages are just plain dumb.
Obama didn’t call for a UN resolution or sanctions against Russia but only suggested the UN might provide a “mediator”.
He said, “Let me be clear: We seek a future of cooperative engagement with the Russian government, and friendship with the Russian people. We want Russia to play its rightful role as a great nation — but with that role comes the responsibility to act as a force for progress in this new century, not regression to the conflicts of the past.”
Diplomatically that statement is like a whipping with a wet noodle: even if there is muscle behind it the statement undoes the intention.
Obama is continuing as he began - trying his best to keep everything fluffy and light and make no hard decisions in case one of those decisions might become inconvenient.
I can remember the day in 2000 that they announced that Bush had won the presidency. I looked at my husband and said to him “There is going to be a war”. He, and the rest of my family and friends thought that I was crazy. That was one of those ‘told you so moments’ I wish I had not have had.
Unfortunately, I do think that Bambam is going to win this thing. If the primaries have taught anything, it is that peoples’ votes do not matter. The moment that I saw that the dems nomination speech was to be on MLK’s anniversary of his infamous speech, I KNEW Bambam was going to be the nom. This thing has been in the works far longer than anyone will ever realize.
What I cannot understand is the far-left and their love-fest with how the rest of the world perceives the US. Can they not see that of course the rest of the world wants Bambam to win? His presidency will be the end of America. In so many ways. Militarily, economically, socially. Until this election year, I have never noticed the colour of one’s skin (and I am Canadian; racism is not a problem in my country like yours). Now even in non-racist countries, race is front and center. If this is what the ‘citizen of the world’ and ‘great uniter’ has to offer, woe to the rest of the ‘citizens of the world’…
I don’t believe Obama is popular abroad because our former friends and allies are hoping for our fall. He’s popular because they’re hoping we might finally be snapping out of it.
You get stupid-post-of-the-year award. Oblahblah is more of the same. Same FISA, same energy policy, same arrogance.
PCBEDAMNED
Thanks for an interesting post! Canada is way ahead of the U.S. At least you have UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE since 1965–thanks to Tommy Douglas, a THIRD PARTY leader! And your women’s Rights are constitutionally protected. You are way ahead.
I agree that Obama has started a racial divide. He was empty-headed from Day 1 and the sexist media pushed him to a phony ‘win’! Hillary is hte more qualified, caring and intelligent person. And was the oNLY REAL HOPE for the world…
sorry to add to your worries but the U.s. has a sad choice:
1. Elect a bumbling war-lover
2. Elect a racial time bomb with stutteringly bad credentials, gutless perspective, and dangerous misogynist streak.
You had Pierre Trudeau. He was a genius and you can’t compare to this Empty Suit candidate Barack who’s had 144 days in the senate and 3 years public school in Indonesia that qualifies for ‘world-traveled sage’
IMMIGRATION TO CANADA IS OUR ONLY HOPE, RIGHT?!!
Send us some forms!
Thank you, Canada!
Sorry to be so late in replying, but I was at the Drive-in. (Hancock is actually a good movie…) Pierre a genius? Don’t know about that one. But I regress. As for immigrating to Canada, I think as long you pay your $3.00 at the border it is pretty easy to get lost here. LOTS of free (not in the $ sense) land. Just remember to say ‘eh’ a lot and no one will know the difference:)
I can’t understand your country’s aversion to universal health care. I am conservative and there isn’t another conservative here who would be willing to give it up. If I may ask a question:
Let’s say a family of 4 makes $60,000 a year. How much would you pay in taxes on that, and what is the cost for private health care? Until I know the answer to a question of this nature, I cannot compare as to whether or not we really are that much more highly taxed than Americans.
And if any of you do end up in the Great White North, welcome. And bring your snow pants…
(But do realize that we have a Conservative Prime Minister, not that that is much different from a Centrist Democrat…)
Obama is right. Georgia and Russia are both wrong and must come to a mutual cease fire, NOW!
South Osetia should be allowed to be it’s own nation.
Russia must pull back from Georgia, and Georgia must apologize for attacking Russia.
or no TV for them!
It only took him THREE days to figure that out and after all the experts said so.
That’s Brilliant, just brilliant. We must elect the ONE.
Stop the hate!
Michael ADvisor
Why oh why don’t you leave your leader enjoy his ‘Britney Moment’ in Hawaii….and leave the real problems of the real world to Hillary?
Tell him to extend his Hawaiian vaction till mid November! And keep drinking Bush-lite from the peroxide bottle…
Words without action ring hollow, buster.
Obama who?
Hi all you smart people! Is anyone annoyed about the news of Pelosi and MichelleO opening the convention? Is that TRANSPARENT BS or what??
John McCain’s top foreign policy advisor is on the payroll of the Republic of Georgia.
That advisor has direct connections with the ultra-conservative PNAC, and was directly involved in setting the stage for the invasion of Iraq.
Until April he was paid directly by Georgia as their registered lobbyist.
April 2008 on a company he owns–Orion Strategies, LLC–pockets the money and continues the lobbying. The April 2008 contract with Georgia was worth $200,000.
This is influence peddling at its most blatant. The far-right political goals and ideologies of this guy are fully documented and totally obvious.
What is it people don’t get about this? Is it just so obvious that people can’t believe what they’re seeing?
HILLARY’S 3:00 A.M. AD VIDEO SHOULD BE SHIPPED TO PRECIOUS BARACK IN HAWAII FOR EXTRA VIEWING!
Sorry to interrupt your BRITNEY MOMENT, Senator, but see this before your Body Surfin’ massage, sir!
and please STAY IN HAWAII TILL MID-NOVEMBER!….
“Now, watch this drive”. It’s why I call him Jr.jr
Obama failed again.What’s new?
NoObama.
Hillary 08
or
McCain 08
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
SIGN THIS PETTITION .YOU DON’T HAVE TO GIVE ANY MONEY IF YOU CAN’T.YOU JUST HIT NEXT-NEXT-THEN BACK TO PETTITION AND THEN YOU BACK BAR-AGAIN TILL YOU COME BACK TO THE
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility Birth Certificate.Hurry-the names are being downloaded and saved as the site as well.But Hurry
PETTITION.http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
The FEC is essentially powerless at present. They’re incapacitated. They lack an effective quota.
Bush strategy to avoid a nominee that would pass Senate muster now backfires. The democrats won’t get a decision on the suit they filed about McCain’s campaign loan irregularities, but the republicans won’t get an FEC decision about Obama’s eligibility issues.
here is the really bad news all- we just need to connect the dots…
I’m scared Larry….about what they don’t want us to know…Cheney is his cousin
I guess the link didn’t take above.Here it is
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
GO to this pittition and sing it.You don’t have to donate anything if you can’t-Just hit next-next and then go back to pittition and then back bar-back bar till you get back to the pittition sugnuture and then on top at singuture clink to see if your signuture took. It’s going now.
THAT’S ALL Obama is doing is running around spending terorist money with this stuff and he is not debateing -duck’n the press-He can’t even talk on issues with out being someone else.I guess to Obama this is the way to go and now knowing who he really is.So that’s why his campaign mgr said people will say I don’t know him,People will say this and that.That’s why.David Axerol said this as well as Obama so they can put this in peoples minds.
We have just a few more to go please sign this pittition.you don’t have to donate money-just hit next-next-then go back to pettition on the bottom and hit yes-backbar-back bar and then go to sigutures to see if yours is on there.I think we only need 18 more
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
GO to this pittition and sing it.You don’t have to donate anything if you can’t-Just hit next-next and then go back to pittition and then back bar-back bar till you get back to the pittition sugnuture and then on top at singuture clink to see if your signuture took. It’s going now.
15 More that’s it..LET’S GO
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
GO to this pittition and sing it.You don’t have to donate anything if you can’t-Just hit next-next and then go back to pittition and then back bar-back bar till you get back to the pittition sugnuture and then on top at singuture clink to see if your signuture took. It’s going now.
you can be Anonymous 15 more only needed
FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html
GO to this pittition and sing it.You don’t have to donate anything if you can’t-Just hit next-next and then go back to pittition and then back bar-back bar till you get back to the pittition sugnuture and then on top at singuture clink to see if your signuture took. It’s going on now.
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