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A Sign That The DNC and “The One” are Channeling Stalin

It seems that a Democratic delegate committed a cardinal sin against The State.

She criticized The One.

Sacha Millstone acknowledged she was frustrated over how the Obama campaign was treating delegates who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and told a fellow delegate, in what she believed was a private e-mail exchange, that she was not sure she could vote for Obama at the Democratic National Convention later this month.”

In true Orwellian fashion, the delegate she emailed did his or her “job” and reported the dissenting email to The Comrades. The General of the Colorado Democratic Party, William Compton, also did his job as well, and sent her a loving “Democratic” Party letter.

“You are hereby directed to come in to the party Headquarters and explain your comments and why you should remain a national delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in light of these comments,” the letter said.

No kidding. Somebody actually wrote that down right here in the Former United States of America. As I often say, you can’t make this shit up. Hereby! Notwithstanding! Heretofore! WHEREtofore!

The furious Ms. Millstone, a former campaign worker for (gasp!) Hillary Clinton, rightfully saw the e-mail as a threat and hired an attorney to protect her.

“Isn’t there a right to free speech? Isn’t this right in line with our time-honored tradition with the Dems?” she said. “These intimidation tactics have a chilling effect on people feeling comfortable speaking up.”

Mr. Compton’s further remarks indicated that this was really a simple matter, no big deal, standard operational procedure, and much ado about nothing, really. Just a resignation for uttering a sound about The One that wasn’t in keeping with Groupthink. This kind of thing is very displeasing to The One and his Hood Ornament, Howard Dean.

“We wanted to explore with Ms. Millstone the possibility of her voluntarily resigning her position,” Compton said. “I simply wanted to discuss the matter with her.”

These damned bitches! When will they ever learn their place! Would it be safe to say that the translation of the above remark is: Resign or we will help you out the door?

Compton’s Lieutenant, Denver Democratic Party Chair Pat Waak also weighed in on this small non-event — known in Corporate America as “circling the wagons” — as if this kind of thing was as natural and democratic as could be. No big deal really.

“Anytime we receive a complaint, we are required by our rules to hear that complaint and decide whether or not it should be taken to the rules committee,” said Pat Waak, chair of the Colorado Democratic Party.

[Millstone's attorney]Ferrugia asked Waak, “If someone brings you private correspondence, you’ll use that in investigating a complaint?”

Waak responded, “We have used documents, memos, other things in the past where complaints have been filed. We have used whatever comes to us. That does not mean it goes to the rules committee.”

Waak said the investigation and e-mail from Compton was not made public by the Colorado Democratic Party and regrets that it is in the public domain.

Way to go, Lieutenant! This stuff needs to be kept quiet, otherwise party intimidation just doesn’t work as well. It tends to, you know, horrify the public. Glad you thought better of that remark further on, I am relieved. But you might pay for this next little attack of guilt:

She also said, “I do think there are some delegates, on both sides, with some wounded feelings because this has been a very difficult, hard fought campaign.”

With reports that The One has already removed some Michigan Clinton delegates and replaced them with his own members of that “Civilian Army” he is so fond of mentioning, this delegate apparently doesn’t seem to be willing to go quietly. Long live the resistance! (Should I be writing that in another language?)

“I think that one of the reasons I got this letter was to intimidate me,” said Millstone. “It sounded very totalitarian. I thought it sounded undemocratic and I was completely shocked”

Millstone continued, “Having conversations on the pros and cons of those candidates, I don’t think this is an unusual thing at all in the Democratic Party.”

Yeah, well that was the Old Democratic Party Ms. Millstone. The one that ran democratically. Things are different now. Things are The Chicago Way. You pissed off the The One and His Comrades. You are outta here, girl!

About Millstone, Waak told 7NEWS, “From our point, it’s over with. She’s chosen not to come in and talk with us and so, we’re two weeks away from the convention and we’ll continue to work with the delegates who want to be worked with.”

“The ones who want to be Worked With”? Does this person have any idea what that sounds like? Just wondering. I wonder how one “works with” someone who isn’t in line? Is there like some special kind of shock treatment for this malady known as “Having a mind of your own” or “Recognizing a hoax when you see one”? It certainly is an interesting study.

Millstone firmly believed the e-mail from Compton was a clear message to Clinton delegates nationwide to refrain from critical comments of Obama if they wish to attend the convention.

“I think that it was calculated to have an impact on other delegates and I think this kind of communication does have a very chilling impact on other delegates because people become afraid to speak up. They become afraid to say what they think.”

That’s the idea, Ms. Millstone. Now you get it.

Millstone added, “You can’t get unity by telling people to shut up.”

Apparently, Ms. Millstone, if our experience is any indicator, the answer to your last remark is “Yes They Can!”.

Prepare to pack your things, Ms. Millstone.
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As I have noticed for a long time, we have to depend on Local News coverage to get a true picture of what is going on with this Democratic Party Coup of frightening magnitude. Denver Channel 7 referred to this situation as a matter of “questionable tactics” by the Democratic Party. Let’s not ever hold our breath waiting for CNN or MSNBC to say this kind of thing about The One and His “new” Party.

Click below for the video accompanying the Denver Call 7 Investigative Report (Remember investigative reports?) for an eye-opening read of the letter Ms. Millstone received.

Colorado Democratss Threaten Delegate’s Status

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Comment by Lezident | 2008-08-13 06:56:16

Intimidation is a hallmark of the Obama style.

http://lezident.com

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-08-13 07:49:20

Fascist is as Fascist Does….Good Article Uppity. Thanks

 

Comment by nancysabet | 2008-08-13 07:55:18

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Comment by lute | 2008-08-13 08:52:39

Those of us who can’t fly to Denver would like to
do something nice, like buy lunch for a PUMA who does
attend.
It’s the least we can do.

 

Comment by Jamie D. | 2008-08-13 10:56:49

Just called Motel 6. Nothing available and she says cancellations not likely. $59.95/night

But if you have any other tips, please post. We’re still looking.

 
 

Comment by bmc | 2008-08-13 09:41:23

Donna Brazile’s favorite phrase regarding resisters:

They “will be dealt with.”

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-08-13 14:29:57

Pat Waak, just like the lot of them, is a friggin’ failure! The way she ran the State convention here was a joke at best. Imagine 200 alternates standing outside the men’s bathroom waiting to be called…no mic was used and the game of telephone was used. This party is a joke. I know Sacha Millstone and they picked the wrong person to bully.

 
 

Comment by Papoose | 2008-08-13 07:02:31

Any updates on delegate Debra Bartoshevich? I believe she was actually ousted for her “John McCain” remarks. She had a late night spot on Fox Sunday but I only caught the part where she was condemning racism…

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:36:02

I think she’s probably in the new Camp XRay by now.

 
 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-08-13 07:02:38

Clearly, the Obama gang are authoritarians who believe dissent is to be suppressed and elections are to be rigged.

The rise of the Obamites parallels the rise of the neocons in the Republican Party.

In both cases, a creepy minority gamed their way to the top, with the same result–i.e., the destruction of the party, and, curiously, the nomination of an incompetent ex-cokehead to the office of the President.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRLBJfVXIQ

Comment by SlowBurn | 2008-08-13 07:09:29

this time however, their candidate (dems.’) won’t win.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:40:46

We never win when the radicals hijack our party. They have done it enough times to keep us from electing presidents. That’s why we have only elected two in 40 years. But this time,they imagine that, since it hasn’t worked all these years, they will create a “new” party. The problem is they can’t stop the fact that the majority of the party is still moderate. They can ignore them but they all vote. You are correct. There will be no win with Obama. What this is, is an inner struggle that has happened before and the result is always the same. The worse part is it comes at a time where the appearance of sympathy to people who want us dead is far more deadly to the party than just the ‘anti war’ mantra. This is skunky stuff. You can bet that the money exchange from those Hamas compound brothers won’t make CNN news, but it WILL make McCain TV spots. It’s already over. Not even the polls matter because by October, barack obama will look like he’s in charge of jihad when the swift boaters get done with him.

Comment by Betty | 2008-08-13 09:02:08

Gosh, I hope you are right!

But I think we need to be ready to swift boat him ourselves and not rely on others. And we can’t just swift boat him among ourselves we need to find a way to swift boat him with people who never go near a computer.

If the corporate media turns on McCain like they did on Hillary, Obama will be elected just be cause he is the last candidate standing. Is that why Obama is working so hard to say and do nothing? Does he know the media is going to trash McCain and all he needs to do is keep his head down?
I think the actions of Obama since the last debate, where Hillary showed us what a looser he is, could be used to teach people what it means to keep your head down.

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-13 09:34:29

It was in the news this AM. However of course it put the spin on it that McCain had received a 2K donation and Obama had received 32K from three brothers (which had been returned) hmmmm The gist of the story was this, with internet donations it was impossible to know where the donations came from. (This I doubt.) It was early and I was half asleep but I think it was on ABC internet news, or Politico.

 

Comment by Ellen D | 2008-08-13 09:42:09

It’s easy to get caught up in Party Politics to forget that you also need votes from outside your party to get elected President. To destroy your base is incredibly stupid – to keep doing the same thing over and over no matter the demonstrated results is insane.

 
 
 

Comment by splashy | 2008-08-13 12:26:46

It’s the same authoritarians. They have jumped the Repub ship because it’s going out of power. They follow power and money, and it’s going to the Dem party. They are ruining the party by turning it into a conservative party. They want to shut out any reasonable people that don’t fall in line.

They follow the social dominants, who will also go where they can gain power. What does that say about the Obama crowd?

For more, go here.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

 

Comment by trixta | 2008-08-13 12:44:33

Yes, we’ve had the rise of the Neo-Conservatives with Bush and now we have the Neo-Liberals with Obama. But Bush never had a 50-state strategy to quash dissent with his own civilian army.

 
 

Comment by SlowBurn | 2008-08-13 07:03:22

who cares about the DNC, the Dem party or who speaks at their convention if hillary isn’t or can’t be the nominee? i certainly don’t; i won’t be wasting my time. I’ll be campaigning for McCain instead.

Comment by joseyj | 2008-08-13 09:56:42

me too!

Dems for McCain – NO Hussein!

 
 

Comment by cplummer | 2008-08-13 07:04:59

You have to wonder now that Sen. Obama is pressing the issue of seating ALL of Michigan and Florida’s delegates to the convention if he has replaced all or some of Hillary’s delegates in those states with his own as well. I’ve read blog comments somewhere that that was what was happening.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:42:36

Yes he has done that. he replaced some michigan delegates for sure.

 
 

Comment by SlowBurn | 2008-08-13 07:07:43

bears repeating:

who cares about the DNC, the Dem party or who speaks at their convention if hillary isn’t or can’t be the nominee? i certainly don’t; i won’t be wasting my time. I’ll be campaigning for McCain instead.

Comment by splashy | 2008-08-13 12:28:19

Not me! No Repubs for me. McKinney is so much better.

 
 

Comment by guido in florida | 2008-08-13 07:07:43

I warned of this when they started to replace Clinton delegates in Florida with Obambi’s delegates and then he made his grand jester to seat all of florida once the switch had been made. He is obviously preparing in case we do get a roll call vote so that the numbers will not be what they were right after the primary. It is their contingency plan. They are just stacking the deck. We need to challenge these changes that took place after the primaries to delegates. And we need to beat the drums loudly to make sure we make as much noise about these gestapo like tactics to everyone who will listen. Sean Hannity where are you?

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:44:02

Back when nobody noticed, he ousted hundreds of his own delegates that weren’t trusted any longer. Kids who worked their asses off for him. He has made sure that even the slightest doubt about a delegate means a replacement.

Comment by standard | 2008-08-13 08:54:25

This is very newsworthy.
I hope that you will do another in-depth article about this.

 

Comment by FranSC | 2008-08-13 08:57:33

As far as Delegate replacements, convention speakers, etc., Obama is being given too much credit for this. While I’m sure he agrees with it, nothing about his campaign has been his idea. He was asked to run, his campaign strategy was laid out for him by the DNC, his silicone Valley Venture Capitalist fund-raising machine was used by Kerry and Nancy Pelosi in the “Take Back the House” strategy, Howard Dean used Move-on.Org, David Axelrod is known for his campaign tactics specific to black candidates, aka MASS Govenor Deval Patrick, Obama and Tim Russert became close friends following his 2004 convention speech.

Obama doesn’t know what has hit him. He is by no means calling the shots. It is all of the above that are calling the shots.

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-08-13 09:11:43

It is the same excuse Soros used about him helping to confiscate the homes, money and belongings of jews: it would have been done anyway.
Now you convinced me that our Bambi is just an innocent deer looking at the headlights.

NO!

If I know that this is happening he knows it. He didn’t have to take part in it.

On the other hand, I just remember him giving the finger. Maybe he meant it for all of us who didn’t support him.

 

Comment by tek | 2008-08-13 09:39:51

But Obama is agreeing to the corruption so he can aggrandize himself.

 
 
 
 

Comment by trails | 2008-08-13 07:16:37

There was a news article today on the rise of authoritarian governments around the world. I think the article should have looked closer to home, like to the political party once called Democratic.

The kind of attitude displayed this election year toward voters, citizens, and political activists is off the wall and unacceptable.

Important story, Uppity!

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-13 07:18:42

http://www.ca-c.org/online/2007/journal_eng/cac-02/01.toleng.shtml

”Enlightened authoritarianism”

Explains exactly what is going on.
After hearing about this I had a major BINGO moment.

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-13 07:35:08

A snip from the above link:

The enlightened authoritarianism conception is likewise untenable because it distorts the very essence of the problem. Those who support it should always remember that only one step separates enlightened authoritarianism from unenlightened and will lead to a personality cult. The conclusion suggests itself that leaders should be elected and rotated—this is one of the basic principles of democracy. It is not merely a political and juridical principle—it is a moral and ethical principle that should not be patterned to fit short-term considerations.

Even if we admit that one leader or another is indeed a highly enlightened person, the enlightened authoritarianism conception is absolutely useless even as a transition model. It detracts too far from democratic constructionism and completely relies on purely subjective factors rather than on objective laws of social development.

We should always bear in mind that the search for the best possible democratic model, which has been going on throughout the entire history of democracy, never went far from the basic idea—self-reproduction of democracy as a SYSTEM that least of all depends on subjective factors. The founding fathers of the democratic SYSTEMS have always warned against the “tyranny of the majority” (to borrow a Western term), that is, the tyranny of democracy. If democracy is fraught with tyranny, we should be apprehensive of an enlightened authoritarian ruler.

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-08-13 08:37:23

Exactly.

And for those who are not aware, the major Obama advisor, George Soros, has been undermining democratic reform in the former Soviet States, including the Caucuses and Georgia.

Google Obambi’s advisors George Soros, and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

See my take on it here: http://nobho.blogspot.com

So tell me Obots, how are Obambi’s advisors going to keep Obambi from screwing our country, our democracy and the world? Soros and Brzezinski are already hard at work against democracy and liberties throughout the world.

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-13 10:08:02

Obama is proud to call himself an “Internationalist”, that is why Ziggy and Soros are promoting him, this is just Jimmy Carter Lite, they found someone that can read a teleprompter but knows NOTHING, perfect for them. Obama already said he doesn’t know how to run anything, he just wants to be the SYMBOL, or figurehead mascot.

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-13 13:01:12

Carter was quite the disaster for us.
He is a great humanitarian, but a piss poor leader.

 
 
 

Comment by Annie Oakley | 2008-08-13 10:35:22

I used to hear that a “benevolent dictator” would be the best form of government. I’d say “enlightened authoritarian” is the same and is equally an oxymoron. An enlightened leader would not be an authoritarian and an authoritarian is not enlightened.

The One with his demand of Unity is not an enlightened advocate for democracy. Democracy is in a serious global downgrade, and puppets working for the likes of Soros and Brzezinski are not going to exchange their power for the power of the process.

Great article, Uppity

 
 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-08-13 07:56:26

This is what I’m from wonderin for a while. Elements of the formula seem to be emerging. Things are lingin up for a Global Sweep Of FASCISM…globally speaking of course.

 
 

Comment by Steve1 | 2008-08-13 07:25:25

We all know that this is not an isolated incident. We have seem and heard about pro-Clinton or anti-Obama bloggers who have been intimidated, threathened. Tech-dude who has gone underground. Remember what they did to Geraldine Ferraro, they even contacted her job! Just posting on Y/t-you receive threats and name calling, the shutting fown of blogs….the list goes on. Real Americans have to stand up against this tide of Mugabe thug tactics. This is the USA, not Zimbabwe? These appear to be similar tactics used by that cheap, tin-horn dictator. I am tired of hearing of these undemocratic tactics, no less by my party! When this is over with, we need to take party away from the greedy piggies! Its time for the resignation of Howard Dean, who has allowed such tactics, Donna Brazille, the hypocrite Wexler!

 

Comment by candymarl | 2008-08-13 07:25:57

I’ve also read that Obama is replacing sitting MI and FL delegates with his own delegates.

I’m not saying it’s true because I don’t know.

I have to say it would not surprise me.

 

Comment by Clinton Fan | 2008-08-13 07:28:29

Jesus, they don’t treat you with that little respect in the damn military–and that’s an authoritarian system.

After hearing about how this woman was treated by those goons, I feel very comfortable leaving the Democratic Party now. As soon as November is over, I’m switching my registration, without regret.

I was, until I read this, feeling a bit of sadness about leaving the organization. It’s hard to let go of something that’s been a part of your life for so many decades, that’s been a family tradition for a century.

I’m, as the kids say, “Just so OVER them” at this point. It’s offensive, what they’re doing. It’s just like the shit the RNC pulls.

We really do need a third party, of moderate, centrist NORMAL people who give a shit about national security, economic and safety net issues.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:47:40

I still believe that nobody should LEAVE. Instead, take your party BACK. This is not a new thing. It happened before and we survived because we REFUSED.

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-08-13 08:51:22

To quote the Reagan Democrats, “We did not leave the Democratic party. The Democratic Party left us.”

 
 
 

Comment by Get a brain moran | 2008-08-13 07:31:48

will there be a DNC rep at the convention doors checking everyones papers. I hope Ms. Millstone names the snitch.

 

Comment by AJSHOPE | 2008-08-13 07:33:06

If the Denver and Colorado news agencies keep reporting stuff like this, I have a feeling that Barack can kiss his chances of even getting close to getting Colorado in the GE goodbye.

 

Comment by Puget Sound Island Girl | 2008-08-13 07:34:53

I just posted a comment and it went into moderation (I think because I had a link to a website listed). Oooops.

Let me try again!

The short version of my “missing” comment:

Yesterday, I wrote about my Costco experience when I purchased The Obama Nation. You can read this at my blog, just click on my name or go to thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com

Anyway, I have posted an update. Also, an Obamabot wrote a pretty nasty comment on my blog yesterday. My gut feeling is he/she came from this site (read my comment here and followed mehometo my blog). To that Obamabot: I will never post your nasty comment. I don’t care if you will give me your email address if I do post your comment. I don’t need or want your email. I have no desire to write to you or know who you are. Lastly, YOU are NOT my “friend.” I don’t post Obamabots comments!!!!

I am so tired of their intimidation tactics!!!

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 07:51:59

I get comments from them all the time. I had one who was truly schitzy with the comments. Tried everything from “what do you want” to “it’s over. get used to it”. Long posts. Short posts. whatever. I took his IP address and put it in the automatic spam category. I rarely even look at spam except to check quickly that one of my regulars didn’t accidentally land there for mentioning “sinclair” for example. You can just dump them in spam by putting their IP in the spam options. That way you don’t have to waste your time reading that crap.

I find it ironic that they always mention that we don’t want ‘discourse’ and we are undemocratic for not allowing their posts so that they can derail my blog. I learned how to do that from MyDD, kos and Huffpo and they have the nerve to complain about my little blog. These people are caught up in their own irony.

Comment by Puget Sound Island Girl | 2008-08-13 08:05:11

I had a person once who was so angry that I wouldn’t post his/her comments. One of the last comments this person posted said, “Haven’t you ever heard of Free Speech!”

Idiots.

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-13 10:15:23

That is how I feel, I was BANNED yesterday at the Huff Post and I have been posting my thoughts there for about a year. Many never got published though, although I had all my stuff posted when I commented on Jon Voight’s post. Maybe it was because I said Barry Soetoro was a CITIZEN of Indonesia. they can’t have that stuff at Huff Post. I never called names or said anything nasty but when I tried to post it said “You are BANNED FROM POSTING”

 
 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-08-13 08:09:10

What could she possibly say to justify the harassment you received for buying a damn BOOK? These people have absolutely no understanding of authoritarian governments and the consequences to individual freedom. The ultimate irony is: they claim to support BO because of “hope” and they are the angriest, nastiest, meanest human beings (see Donna B for a Party example).

 
 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-08-13 07:39:16

An Obambi presidency will be all about authoritarian rule. Democracy and Liberties will be weakened. Those ideals are quaint, and get in the way.

The signs are all there. Look at the way the campaign is being run. Look at Obambi’s highest advisors George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Usurping the Democratic Party and the DNC, the backflips on FISA, and campaign finance are the glaring beacons of what is to come.

Are you looking forward to Obambi’s “Civilian National Security Force”, which he proposes will have all the funding and power of the military?

Keep the change. I don’t need it.

Comment by Get a brain moran | 2008-08-13 07:40:57

Johnny i’m stealing this!!
“Keep the change. I don’t need it.”

 

Comment by roseeriter | 2008-08-13 08:01:21

Johnny, I posted a comment on your blog. The enlightened authorative stuff/article is what I think is what this bizarre primary is really all about.

Kudos for steering at least me, to some reasonable explanation of this fiasco.

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-08-13 08:22:16

 
 

Comment by Deelee | 2008-08-13 09:11:36

Hey Johnny at Work, I copied this from your site.

“Corporate influence will be easier under an authoritarian government”.

By the same token, I guess once the people are whipped into line, control of corporations will be next. Isn’t that called a shakedown, (contribute or else) a la Jackson Snr and Sharpton style.

 
 

Comment by DWPittelli | 2008-08-13 07:45:29

Isn’t it more than a bit misleading to relate this story and leave out the fact that Ms. Millstone hasn’t merely vowed to vote for Clinton, but then also to publicly quit the Democratic Party? I think that either party, at any time in the past, would have acted similarly to try to keep such a person out of their convention.

Comment by Rob in Chicago | 2008-08-13 10:53:40

Where did you read that she was threatening to leave the party? That wasn’t in the news report. If it was said in her video interview accompanying the news story, then that statement came after the threats from the DNC Gestapo, and the purported statement of resignation from the party did not prompt the threats (however the threats may have prompted the statement.)

 
 

Comment by Dave2009 | 2008-08-13 07:50:57

 

Comment by John | 2008-08-13 07:51:04

I used to be sad about leaving the Democratic Party, which I joined when I turned 18 in 1981. Now I’m almost proud of leaving, and I’m certainly relieved.

This is seriously sick crap. Coming next- crosses being burned on the lawns of Known Hillary Supporters.

 

Comment by ford | 2008-08-13 07:51:16

It is undeniable that Obama has put a strangle hold on the D convention, and on the money to the party. He will lose and be found guilty of accepting money from sources that are against the law…count on it.

He thinks the SAME WAY EDWARDS ADMITTED TO THINKING…Obama nd Edwards think is is all about them and not the American people…

 

Comment by margarita | 2008-08-13 07:53:47

Have people started just “disappearing” yet or is that to come?

Hopey changey Comrades!

(just so I don’t disappear in the night)

Comment by John | 2008-08-13 07:57:34

I believe the term is “Vaporized.” And once Vaporized, they become “Unpersons.”

Like Hillary and her supporters, former Obama delegates whose loyalty was questionable, the populations of Michigan and Florida, etc.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 08:03:09

Good Morning PUMA & NoQtr Bloggers 4 TRUTH!

So much to catch up on but before I do I wanted to post this latest from MANNING incase no one caught it yet.

Something about a prophesy about or GAL!

I haven’t even finished watching it yet because I wanted to post it here first~~ NOW I want to read here and NOT finish watching the video!! LOL ARGH! Decisions Decisions!

Does anyone else have an EYE/Headache from ALL the news lately? WHEW!
——–

ADDED NOTE:
PUTIN LEAVE GEORGIA ALONE YOU PIG!!!!

RISE HILLARY RISE!

Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-13 09:02:42

gracias dawnelle

and

W00T!!!!

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 09:13:18

GINAAAAAAAA!

W00T! ;-)

did you get to see the other video Manning was referencing in the prior clip I linked?

Here’s the other one FYI:

HERE

It’s titled – sadly – Dr. King’s Work and Dream is now Dead

:-(

Comment by bemused | 2008-08-13 09:56:26

Thanks, Dawnelle. I may not always agree with Manning but at least he seems to remember that pastors are supposed to have G-d in mind, something that seems a little lacking in other pastors we could mention. I certainly hope King’s dream isn’t dead, even though BO et al have done their best to say it *is* all about skin color. After this election, maybe resuscitating King would be a good project to take on.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 10:44:01

they will find him along with other greats from history already FLIPPED in their GRAVES!!!

WORD on that!

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-08-13 10:50:43

Rev. Manning is MLK’s avenging angel…..nuff said….

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by CheatedFLVoter | 2008-08-13 11:04:21

That was great. I watched the one at his Atlah site, too. I hope Hillary sees it. Go Independant Hillary!

 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-13 08:03:30

The only lists for the delegates are still the ones from mid July on the DNC website, and I am having a hard time finding “current” delegate lists.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 08:26:20

Kat, you will continue to have a “hard time” identifying replacements.

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-13 09:14:24

I found Marilyn “Mike” Nemeth, also a Clinton supporter(the runner up in votes to Bartoshevich) replaced her. Interesting Bartoshevich isn’t on the Jul 18th list posted at the DNC Convention site for WI delegates, but Wisconsin didn’t strip her status until July 25th; looks like they knew they were going to do this ahead of time.

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-13 09:21:48

Here is the actual letter sent from the WI Democratic Party

Dear Co-Chairs Herman and Roosevelt:
Attached is a challenge and petition filed on behalf of the Democratic Party of
Wisconsin.
Through this filing, we challenge the credentials of Ms. Debra Bartoshevich, elected as a
delegate to Senator Hillary Clinton to the Democratic National Convention from
Wisconsin’s 1st Congressional District.
The petition requests that the RBC remove Ms. Bartoshevich from the convention roll
and replace her with the next highest vote getter in the caucus, Ms. Marilyn Nemeth.
This challenge proceeds on two grounds:
First, Ms. Bartoshevich violated Article II.B in the Call to the Convention. By
supporting Senator McCain, a candidate other than the nominee of the
Democratic National Convention, she violated the Call, and
Second, Ms. Bartoshevich violated Article II.C in the Call to the Convention. By
supporting Senator McCain, she did not have the best interests and welfare of
the Democratic Party in mind.
Please do not hesitate to let me know if you have any questions or require further
information. Thank you for your time and we look forward to hearing back from you
soon.
Democratically yours,
Jason Rae
Democratic National Committee Member

Comment by Katmoon | 2008-08-13 09:26:19

One more part from the affidavit that follows the letter, and this just plain disgusting, the wording, good god! I did not post the link, as the affidavit outs this woman’s personal information, which is also beyond disgusting that the democratic party of WI felt the need to post this.

10. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin and its members have been embarrassed in
the local and national media by the decision of Ms. Bartoshevich to endorse
Senator McCain.
11. We have been personally injured by the decision of Ms. Bartoshevich to endorse
Senator McCain because it has made the Democratic Party of Wisconsin look
weak and not unified.
12. We request that Ms. Debra Bartoshevich not be seated as a delegate to the 2008
Democratic National Convention and be removed from the roll of the Convention
delegates.
13. On Friday, June 13, 2008, the Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s State Convention,
the highest assembled authority for the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, met in
convention in Stevens Point, Wisconsin and unanimously passed a resolution
supporting the Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s challenge to Ms. Bartoshevich’s
credentials on the grounds she is not a bona fide Democrat and she is not
supporting the party’s nominee.
14. Further, to fill the vacancy in the delegate

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-08-13 08:05:33

I guess signed loyalty oaths will be next, swearing absolute allegience to The One and the New Party.

Count me out. If the Dem leadership is unwilling to stop this trainwreck then voters in November must. The Democratic Party had a clear winner in HRC but saw fit to kick her to the curb.

And that’s exactly what I intend do in the voting booth. I’ll pull the Republican lever. And I won’t feel a moment’s guilt.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 08:27:18

I guess signed loyalty oaths will be next,

Remember when Bush was doing this? You had to sign a paper to get into one of his forums.

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-08-13 08:45:07

Yeah. I just love it that the Democratic Party has learned the finer points of control from the Bush administration–Karl Rove and his merry band of king makers

But why not? Control the image, control the message. Brave New World.

Sickening.

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-13 09:28:54

Obama = Bush III

 
 
 

Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-13 09:01:01

a-ha! they already are in effect!! for the stadium hoopla!

 
 

Comment by Mel | 2008-08-13 08:09:02

This is exactly how Frank Marshall Davis acted when he took over one Black organization in Hawaii that collapsed, then attempted to take over the Hawaiian chapter of the NAACP and was thrown out.

What is so incredible, is that in these present times, people are willing to support a useless black bobblehead with no substance who throws the race card whenever convenient.

We need to really hope that the GOP are going to double and triple inspect the operation of the Diebold voting machines on Nov 4th, especially after reviewing the results during the primaries in Illinois that were so far out of wack that every grave must have openned up that evening and the spirits cast votes.

 

Comment by AJSHOPE | 2008-08-13 08:09:51

Wow, now people who want tickets to The One’s speech are required to “volunteer” for him to get the tickets. It’s already starting folks. How can you be required to volunteer? That’s the oxymoron of the century. Also, it would be an in-kind donation, so people who are at the limit to donate for him would then break campaign finance laws. But we already know that Barry doesn’t care about no stinkin’ finance laws.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17174212/detail.html

Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-13 08:59:51

Yes the loyalty oaths have begun!

soon you will only hear the One if you turn in a family member to the secret DNC police

 
 

Comment by NotYoursweetie | 2008-08-13 08:17:29

In search of the elusive PUMA – Obots tried to troll our conference in DC – but we were faster – so now they whine about it on Huffpo
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/oops-they-missed-the-puma-conference/

 

Comment by Lee M | 2008-08-13 08:32:39

During the primaries, I remarked in an e-mail to another Clinton supporter that Senator Obama and his campaign frightened me. How prophetic! I’ve been having a little trouble with my computer going down, and since I’m new to this, I always have to get help to get it back up. A few days ago, when I turned on my computer, there was a message from my security that someone had just tried to infiltrate my computer three times in a ten or fifteen minute period. I had just posted an opinion on another site. One that wasn’t very complimentary to Senator Obama, also stating that he frightened me. I think I was being targeted because of this. I have been active in politica for over twenty years, and have never felt this way before. My computer is new, so the trouble shouldn’t be happening. Needless to say, I fear for our country when I see the way things are going. Watch your back, everyone.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 08:52:22

that would be spam

I used to entertain myself watching my security blocker

I really don’t think you need to worry.

jmo

 

Comment by snosandy | 2008-08-13 10:00:49

Maybe BO voted for FISA so he can monitor all the negative comments made about him.

 

Comment by hank48188 | 2008-08-13 10:26:48

Most of Obama’s supporters are young and living in their parents basement, They are very skilled at computer and know how to do everything, I can only type with two fingers and post my thoughts. I got banned yesterday at Huff post, it’s too bad but they have to control thought over there, they don’t want the supporters confused. Those people are wackos and can probably screw up your computer, guess you have to have security software.

 
 

Comment by Deelee | 2008-08-13 08:42:17

The fact that Obama is replacing delegates should be screamed to the media from the rooftops.

Constitutionally he does not have that right. The electoral process is that, when a person votes, it is to elect a delegate to represent them at the nomination convention to cast a vote for the candidate of their choice. If, for example, a majority of people in a district elect 7 out of 10 delegates to represent them to vote for candidate “A”, then, that is the will of the people, and candidate “A” receives all 7 votes. That’s why they are called “committed” delegates.

By allowing Obama to replace Clinton delegates with ones that will vote for him is as unconstitutional as the DNC awarding him delegates from Michigan.

It’s pretty obvious that Obama fears a roll call at the convention, he’s only ahead of her by a very slim margin, and the “uncommitted” super-delegates might be taking a second look (and not liking what they see).

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-13 10:18:30

There are many many people who only trust the media. Well the MSM is corrupt unable to present the truth. Some of the same people who only get their news from TV have seen the news anchors screw up their faces about internet “smears”. But these same people read their local newspapers, the obits and editorial, before the front page. So take advantage of this free means of getting the truth out.

Every replaced delegate should write a letter to their local paper in the Editorial page. Every person here should write one to their local paper as well. Let’s do a grass roots approach. Local may translate into votes lost for Obama. Called the snowball affect, as in he doesn’t stand a snowballs chance in HELL. Just make it happen.

 
 

Comment by Tom | 2008-08-13 08:46:02

BREAKING NEWS!!! OBAMA’S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOUND!!

http://slicedbreadtwo.com/images/uploads/COLMKBTWL.gif

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-08-13 09:56:46

Comment by Francis | 2008-08-13 11:29:05

Hill-arious!

 
 
 

Comment by Sassy | 2008-08-13 08:46:27

The Change will not take long…remember that the loyal democrats are aging.
I believe that is why Brazille and the “O” emerged now!
That is why we heard the “we are the ones we have been waiting for” comment.
I will not be INDOCTRINATED!
I’ll skip the dems convention and join the Republican affair on my husband’s, daughter’s, and son-in-law’s birthdays!
Worked out well for me!!!

 

Comment by Larse12 | 2008-08-13 08:47:31

Obama and the rest of his followers are thugs. The only way they will win is by doing criminally. Just like he did it in Chicago. Pathetic that the United States of America lets this happen. My 92 year old neighbor said this will go down in the History books making the media look like stool pigeons. Keep fighting PUMA and anyone else out there not in the cult fog.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 08:56:06

You are right! It will be a shameful part in the history of journalism. They seem to be overcompensating for screwing up and pushing the drums of war.

Now they are pushing the PUNK

BOTH CLEARLY DISASTERS

 
 

Comment by Blu | 2008-08-13 08:48:15

DNC Gitmo camps are up and ready for dissenters, protesters and those who dare speak evil of The One.

http://tinyurl.com/5j3362

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 08:58:04

Pastor Manning says we should all show up in Denver dressed as homeless people and we will get treated like stars and given free tickets and rides and overnight at the best churches!

LOLOL!

what a hoot!

Comment by CheatedFLVoter | 2008-08-13 11:17:47

Go to atlah.org and click on “My Ticket Shall Stand”

 
 
 

Comment by Gloria | 2008-08-13 08:50:48

The “Meaning” of America
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/the-meaning-of-america/

“I do not want to play nice with bigots, liars and ignoramuses. I can get mean, nasty, insulting when confronted with idiocy. Mostly, why bother? I have better things to do with my time.”

Mostly about the media, but the above quote seems to apply to the DNC as well…
A new one from kenoshaMarge….

 

Comment by MrMike | 2008-08-13 08:53:41

I hear that the DNC is planning on making special travel arrangements to Denver for Clinton delegates. They rented old box cars from the Deutsche Bahn and will be putting them up in an old pesticide factory.

 

Comment by ginaswo still says no Uhhbama | 2008-08-13 08:56:58

Thank you Ms Millstone!!

Let’s all embrace our free speech and be a ‘millstone’ around the necks of the goose steppin DNC we used to call our party leadership

between this, and Rendell strong arming dels to NOT sign any petition brought to them, I am thinking looking into The Ones’ eyes we might see KGB too…

There is a group of DEM dels led by Gary Mauro also circulating a petition for 300 sigs to have Hillary on that nomination..

FREE HILLARY, DEMOCRACY NOW!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/12/MN8D128VO8.DTL

 

Comment by TimNCGuy | 2008-08-13 08:57:44

Maybe I’m missing something here, but….

If thay actually do have a roll call vote in Denver with Clinton’s name, isn’t it the DUTY of delegates elected to support Clinton to vote for Clinton and not to vote for Obama?

Isn’t that exactly what this elected delegate said in her original email? She didn’t think she could bring herself to vote for Obama… Isn’t that good, since she was elected to vote for Clinton?

And, if they don’t have a Roll Call vote anyway, what’s the point? No one will be “voting” for anyone then either.

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-13 09:06:53

It’s like everything with BHO and his camp..if they have thier way it’s going to be a FAUX convention…It’s all about perception…make the American people think the entire democratic party now supports BHO, ever heard perception can become reality…NOT this time…JMO

Comment by MrMike | 2008-08-13 09:26:46

Why even bother with a convention? Or voting in November? Don’t even wait until the end of January, just install Obama in the White House today.

 
 

Comment by Blu | 2008-08-13 09:25:39

If the delegates who are pledged to represent me and my Clinton vote do not honor that pledge I will be more than a little angry!

 

Comment by tek | 2008-08-13 09:29:32

If the RBC can take Clintons elected delegates and give them to Oblahma, they can do anything–and they will.

 

Comment by Firefly | 2008-08-13 09:35:54

“Isn’t that good, since she was elected to vote for Clinton?”

That’s EXACTLY why bambi has been secretly, and methodically, REPLACING Clinton delegates with his own goose-steppers.

THIS INFORMATION IS NOT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION!

Should anyone dare mention it, all will be categorically denied.

Anyone who dares speak of it WILL BE PUNISHED.

“THE ONE” has spoken!

 
 

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-13 09:02:20

Does anyone know if the Coward BHO, has had a face to face yet with Bill Clinton? Or is he still too busy you know playing basketball and working out and vactioning? I guess the message from the DNC…be afraid be very afraid and fall in line…Never..I’m sure they have internal polling alerting them to the facts that Hillary if placed in nomination would beat BHO..so they are working hard to make sure the WILL OF PEOPLE doesn’t prevail…

Thanks for the article Uppity Woman and please keep up the good work. How do we take back our party? I realised early on in this primary that I would not vote for BHO, he has so many “straws that broke the camels back” I don’t see how true American Democrats could vote for him..

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-13 10:30:29

Maybe Bill Clinton has decided to change tactics? Perhaps he is going to continue his dream of becoming head of the UN? What better way to one up Obama?

 
 

Comment by Lorey | 2008-08-13 09:06:06

Obama and his people are dangerous and harmful to the health of our democracy.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-13 09:14:20

I’d like to hear how Bots excuse this.

Comment by tek | 2008-08-13 09:26:39

How they excuse it? Obama won, get over it!

His little snot-nosed supporters only care about running the show, they’re too spoiled to understand democracy.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 09:36:35

FK GET OVER IT!!

I wish people would STOP saying that!

I swear I’m gonna deck someone!

POW to their ugly kisser! there now GET OVER IT YOURSELF!

ARGH

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-08-13 10:18:04

go get’m Dawnelle! SMACK

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 10:48:48

I swear in another life I was bouncer or boxer!! LOL

IN truth I’ve only slapped one person once and punched ONE X bf ONCE! LOL

but I can’t even COUNT how many times I’ve thought about it!! woo.

 
 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-08-13 11:39:53

Hummmm. The Bush Republicans said the same thing when they stole the election from Al Gore in 2000:

Get Over it!

Good to see the Obamatrons have become such good little students. Obama Youth will be another leap forward. And the Book of “O” which will bypass the fictional autobiography and go straight to the fundamental rules of good citizenship, all the “shalls and shall nots” for the perfect world, the perfect life.

Obamaworld. Coming soon to your local theater.

Sickening.

 
 
 

Comment by candymarl | 2008-08-13 09:17:39

This person expressed an opinion?

Replace her immediately.

Funny how no one has called for the replacement of delegates that publicly supported and pledged to vote for Obama. Not even delegates in districts that overwhelmingly voted for Hillary.

We can’t have people expressing opinions or voting their conscience! What do you think this is? A democratic republic?

 

Comment by Larse12 | 2008-08-13 09:20:31

This quote by MR.MIKE UP ABOVE 2008-08-13 08:53:41
shows why Obama won’t win and can’t. They disrespect the elderly and the seasoned people. They are arrogant know it alls. They would ruin the Democratic party.
___________________________________________________
Quote by Obama follower:
I hear that the DNC is planning on making special travel arrangements to Denver for Clinton delegates. They rented old box cars from the Deutsche Bahn and will be putting them up in an old pesticide factory.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 09:38:53

yea I too just read that CHIT

we are all on the same page

this is GOOD!

 
 

Comment by tek | 2008-08-13 09:24:40

The RULES COMMITTEE. Bwhaaahaaa!

The Democrats really have turned into the Comintern. No way I’ll ever vote for Obama.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-13 09:24:47

let the Obama people keep this kind of thing up. They’re just digging that hole deeper.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-13 09:27:13

Great post Uppity; thank you for reporting on this.

Kudos to Ms Millstone for hiring a lawyer and exposing the Colorado DNC to the local press.

 

Comment by MrMike | 2008-08-13 09:29:21

I have two choices this November, vote for McCain or stay home. The DNC is dead to me.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 09:40:22

you don’t KNOW That yet!

You could have a choice between HILLARY and MCKook! What would you do then?

 
 

Comment by American Woman | 2008-08-13 09:36:53

Anyone wanting to see the Loser in Denver?

Here is what you have to do at this point to get a ticket..

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/13/obama-ticket-hopefuls-told-that-volunteer-gig-is/

I thought the $5.00 was bad enough now you have to give your time…6 hours of volunteer work for Barrack Heussin Obama and you can WIN a chance to be inside the arena…

” JUST SAY NO DEAL’

Comment by Andy | 2008-08-13 09:39:45

Sounds like exploitation labor ….

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 09:41:57

THAT is just gross!

 
 
 

Comment by Polly | 2008-08-13 09:41:46

I had a phone call from our local democratic office and they were doing a survey. I answered the questions asked although they were painfully slanted toward Obama. The question that gave me the most pause and I have thought about ever since was when the young lady asked me if I thought my neighbors would vote for an African American. My neighbors? How would I know, why would I care, and why would I tell some stranger on the phone about my neighbors. I think that is a bit scary. I hung up at that point.

Comment by wodiej | 2008-08-13 09:48:33

I’ve received only one call so far from the Obama campaign. It was a short phone call. I told them there was no way I was supporting someone for President who attended a racist, anti American church for 20 years. When the caller said Obama denounced the Rev. and church I replied “he should have done that 20 years ago”. She started to say something else and I told her to save it, there was nothing she could say that would change my mind.

And I agree, who cares what the neighbors do! They probably couldn’t get any of your neighbors on the phone so they were hoping you would know. You know I have not heard one person say they would not vote for Obama because he’s part black. It’s all because of what he stands for and no experience. Let them keep pushing that question and it’s just costing them votes instead of getting them.

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-08-13 10:30:00

They asked about “your neighbors” because it’s an indirect way of asking you if you would vote for an AA, without making you feel intimidated. The assumption is, if your neighbors wouldn’t do it, it means you wouldn’t either. Besides, why are they asking this instead of “Would you vote for Barack Obama knowing that he takes money from jihadists and hides it from the FEC? Or how about, would you vote for a guy who attended Rev Goddamn America’s church for 20 years? How about Would you vote for a sexist pig?

 
 

Comment by Danny | 2008-08-13 10:02:29

I really hope that Americans get to see this article. This is bigger than Edwards Baby and Obama’s name change.

Americans want to know that our voices and our votes count. The Democrats have taken our voices and votes and flushed them down the toilet for a facist.

 

Comment by MBC | 2008-08-13 10:08:10

Here is why Barack will not win PA, OH, MI, VA, etc.
This is an e-mail that is circulating, perhaps you have received one too. I have received it twice in the last week and after reviewing the distribution lists, realized this thing is BIG. Word of mouth can make you or break you and e-mail is the 21st century word of mouth – I don’t agree that UHC is socialized medicine, but I won’t argue the point on Obama’s behalf.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

McCain

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) McCain does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that ‘higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K – tax $4,500
Single making 50K – tax $12,500
Single making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 125K – tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K – tax $8,400
Single making 50K – tax $14,000
Single making 75K – tax $23,250
Married making 60K – tax $16,800
Married making 75K – tax $21,000
Married making 125K – tax $38,750

Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this a affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them tothese taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren’t high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least….

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 10:53:45

yea but what are his ideas on the Retired and Disabled????

I hope he’s not gonna turn us out to fend for ourselves!!

I used to always hear that rumor in the D camp about republicans. Wanting to take away Medicare and Disability and Social Security.

What is the truth. Here is your chance as I would probably trust the R’s here before I would trust the D’s over there at this point. (freaking me out just typing this, but forgive me will ya? it’s a hard thing to wake up to lately)

whew :-?

Comment by MBC | 2008-08-13 11:35:27

Hi Dawnelle,

The Repubs won’t be privatizing Social Security and sure as he** won’t be messing with Medicare. The baby-boomers won’t stand for it! And the baby-boomers are the ones most affected right now by taxes on their homes, investments, etc. and in need of Medicare. We are the ones who will be electing either McCain or with any luck, Clinton. Should anyone try to disturb SS or Medicare they would not only suffer backlash from the majority of Americans, but from the individual states, as it would financially crush State welfare and Medicaid programs. Fortunately, they know this.

The Dems however, are out to save the planet and plan to implement negative reinforcement programs, i.e., tax on electricity, homes over 2400 sq. ft. etc,. Do they honestly think the middle class who have worked all their lives to own a home and viewed it as their primary investment are going to stand for this?

Comment by Dawnelle Leona del Puma | 2008-08-13 12:09:52

I am STILL wishing they could find a way to make the Z28 run on water!

I LOVE CAMAROS! I’ve owned a few and wish they would start making them again. (they may)

But I am now in an efficient car and hate it! LOL I miss my jeep wrangler!! (Mom won’t let me get another one now that we’re living together, it’s too hard for her getting out! LMAO)

ya know I try to be environmentally conscious. We even bring our OWN bags to the grocery! And have replaced all of our light bulbs (REAL savings there YAY!)

but I just can’t turn HOLY LEAF EATER!

And I really MISS MY CAMARO!!

grrrumble yea yea I know :-/

Comment by MBC | 2008-08-13 12:52:25

Hey Dawnelle,
My husband misses his ‘68 Camaro too! I miss all the “muscle” cars, but I still keep my Grand Cherokee and F150 because 1). they are paid for and 2). I moved so I would not have a 75 mile commute to work. I also work from home now and save even more in gas. When they finally die, I will have to look into smaller, better gas mileage vehicles, but in the interim, we need the size to transport kids and groceries (which I get at Costco with no bags or boxes and only visit once every 5 weeks). I also have a garden and can goodies for the winter!

While I have some “Leaf Eater” in me, I know that these folks who bought 2400 sq. ft. homes as an investment, can’t sell their houses now and certainly won’t be able to if people are taxed on square footage. While I think it is stupid to buy more house than you need (I don’t want to clean it) I know too many people did it and if they are putting their money into taxes, they won’t be putting it back into the economy. I am certain I don’t want the likes of Obama, Dean and Pelosi, deciding how to spend my (our) retirement money!

 
 
 
 

Comment by AX10 | 2008-08-13 13:19:29

I have my own ideas on tax policy/reform.
I am a believer that the richest must pay more taxes.
The discrepecny in wealth is horrible. That is not unreasonable. But what Obama wants to do is raise taxes on the middle class. Obama may be the once to finish off what Bush started, that is the destruction of the middle class.
Obama is nothing more than a thug who is a part of the “latte liberals”, college campus crowd, and the Hate America crowd. Obama is not a volunteer or a mule for them, he is ONE OF THEM and MUST BE DEFEATED!

Comment by MBC | 2008-08-13 13:43:16

Obama needs to reconsider resetting the income level then for tax increases…I can’t see how any new business interested in developing alternative energy sources or building a better car battery will be able to survive his proposed tax increases? Do you?
I agree we need to have a better balance, but $250,000 is too low.

 

Comment by MBC | 2008-08-13 13:48:40

OT, but the real point of my post was that most people won’t be reading blogs, or watching MSM, but they will be reading their e-mails at work! And the one that is circulating now is powerful! Money talks!

 
 
 

Comment by HillGirl | 2008-08-13 10:33:13

One has to wonder if Donna Brazile, based on all of her wonder blunders, is really a closet Republican.

 

Comment by kinthenorthwest | 2008-08-13 10:34:11

should I use a quote from some one we all know.

This not the Democratic party that we all knew 20 years ago or decades ago. Do any of them remember FDRs fight fot the nomination, or how about Kennedy’s failed attempt.

But most of all what ever happened to the Constitution of the United States and the right to free speech.

The more I hear about the handling of non-Obama delegates the more I realize how criminal the party has become.

It looks like Denver is realizing this too. DNC’s seems to added a few admendments to their aggreement. The agreement was that 1/2 the people would be Coloradians. Turns out that will only be true if they promise to work 6-8 hours for the Obama campaign.

How far does the DNC and Obama think they can push the voters of America.

 

Comment by ALLY BABA WAN KENOBE | 2008-08-13 10:43:54

The new name for the party if ‘the one ” gets elected by “any means nesessary!!” THE OBOMMUNIST PARTY! THIER FIRST ORDER OF BUISINESS IS TO PURGE THE RANKS OF ANY closet CLINTONISTAS! then it is on to strip any equity from the AMERICAN public at large in order to fund a massive “reparations for slavery’ undertaking followed by dismantling our borders to further dilute our freedoms! CLINTON ‘08! OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!!!!!!!!!

 

Comment by tzada | 2008-08-13 10:54:15

I guess Mr. Mike knew of which he spoke.

Gitmo On The Platte’ Set As Holding Cell For DNC
Written By Rick Sallinger
Section: Democratic National Convention Section

DENVER (CBS4) ― CBS4 News has learned if mass arrests happen at the Democratic Convention, those taken into custody will be jailed in a warehouse owned by the City of Denver. Investigator Rick Sallinger discovered the location and managed to get inside for a look.

The newly created lockup is on the northeast side of Denver.

Inside are dozens are metal cages. They are made out of chain link fence material and topped by rolls of barbed wire.

“This is a secured environment,” Capt. Frank Gale of the Denver Sheriff’s Department told CBS4. “We’re concerned about how that’s going to be utilized by people who will be potentially disruptive.”

http://cbs4denver.com/denver2008/denver.protesters.arrested.2.793930.html

 

Comment by AdrianS | 2008-08-13 11:10:38

I have a suggestion:

To all of the hundreds of Obama delegates that wish to vote for Hillary, please hold your opinions until the DNC. You can make big-time history by overthrowing “The One.” Vote overwhelmingly for Hillary. Flush Obama. There’s nothing like a good-time right-time ambush.

 

Comment by Cathy6224 | 2008-08-13 11:27:07

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-08-13 07:39:16

An Obambi presidency will be all about authoritarian rule. Democracy and Liberties will be weakened. Those ideals are quaint, and get in the way.

The signs are all there. Look at the way the campaign is being run. Look at Obambi’s highest advisors George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Usurping the Democratic Party and the DNC, the backflips on FISA, and campaign finance are the glaring beacons of what is to come.

Are you looking forward to Obambi’s “Civilian National Security Force”, which he proposes will have all the funding and power of the military?

Keep the change. I don’t need it.——————— I agree with you Johnny! And that Civilian National Security Force he talks so often of, sounds too much like Saddam’s Ba’ath Party to me. It’s scary! I don’t want his kind of change.

 

Comment by Idiocracy08 | 2008-08-13 12:06:20

Am I being punked?

This really can’t be happening. We are now the Stepford States of Obamerica

 

Comment by athy | 2008-08-13 12:08:12

Excellent Post.

This link has to get out to the public. Voters need to question how democratic our election process is, what is the role of delegates , super delegates, the electoral college etc…

This is frightening…There is no excuse for this.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/call7investigators/17163668/detail.html

 

Comment by no waffles aka drkate | 2008-08-13 12:13:30

I am furious with this! Here’s my LTE, and thank you for the language/wording suggestions

Party Loyalty: The Democrats New Mantra?

Editor:

There are some troubling reports emerging about what happens to people who do not tow the party line and “fall in line” for Obama.

First Obama has replaced all the Clinton delegates from Michigan and Florida with his own delegates. Obama’s actions are outside the rules of the Democratic party and they betray his effort to take control of the Democratic Party.

Recently, a Colorado Clinton delegate expressed, in a private email, concerns about the electability of Senator Obama. The Colorado democratic party political director, William Compton, then “commanded” her to appear at party headquarters to explain her comments and why she “should remain a national delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in light of these comments.” Once the press got a hold of this statement, the Colorado Democratic party immediately backed down, saying they had “dropped” the issue. But the Clinton delegate had to hire an attorney to protect herself from party intimidation.

It’s pretty obvious to me that Obama fears a roll call at the convention, and so do his supporters, and that is why he is replacing and intimidating delegates. The “uncommitted” super-delegates might be taking a second look, and not liking what they see.

Resorting to Orwellian tactics to win the nomination, however, is not democratic and is un-American.

 

Comment by The Real Hope | 2008-08-13 12:15:30

Well we can all remember when the Republican Party went far-right with the stalwart help of the Christian/Evanglical base; these far right wing people have left the RP in a shambles and the Repubs know it and are trying to pick up the pieces. Now this exact same ideaology (only left wing this time and far left wing) have maneuvered themselves into this dangerous position. They are trying to drive the moderates of the DP into extinction. They should have taken a lesson from the demise of the RP via the far-right’s destructive influence. I don’t know if most people have awakened to how radical Nancy Pelosi really is in terms of the political spectrum. Just my opinion.

 

Comment by Toni | 2008-08-13 17:00:01

FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html

We need more signatures.all most there.Just go at the end where it ask if you like to donate and if you can’t just go to the bottom of the page and hit go back to petition.And hit ok- againok then hit the back bar till you are at the petition again.go to signutures at the top and click.Look to see if you got yours on there.You can remain Anonymous

We are almost there.We need to get Obama’s true birth certificate and invesagation for it and other stuff to they are working on now

 

Comment by standard | 2008-08-14 08:43:59

How does a nominee have the power to switch out delegates?

 

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Comment by Karen4Hillary4McCain 08 | 2008-08-14 20:27:50

That’s the same with MSMBC BLOG. You can write a post but,if it’s not good they won’t lrt it through.They just don’rt want people to see or hear the truth.OH well who needs MSNBC ? I don’t even watch them anymore that goes for today show-the view-today morning shownight line-dateline-cnn-I shut them out of my house as they did to Hillary and her supporters.I voted them off.Let their rateing go down.That’s great for me.I will not watch a media who will not tell the peple the truth.I can no longer trust anything they say!NOTHING.

boycot MSMBC.

 

Comment by Howard | 2008-08-27 17:09:55

D I S E N G E N U O U S N E S S …

Everyone knows that Obama disrespected Bill Clinton …
playing the race card on him, and trying to tarnish his
record during the primaries … but, because of the
disingenuous DNC, and Obama, and their putting party
above country, and blackmailing the Clintons into
supporting Obama … using their debt and Hillary’s
future in politics as their leverage, the Clintons have
been strong armed into supporting Obama. Why should a
successful and respected two term President like
Bill Clinton have to stoop to the ambitions of the far
left DNC, and their upstart, empty suit candidate …
while Obama and the DNC disingenuously pretend that everybody has
kissed and made up??? Also, the PUMAS and other
Hillary supporters have had to endure the same
condescending disrespect from them as well. I say
the DNC and Obama made their bed, so let them lie
in it … they deserve nothing more.

 

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