Obama’s Christian Journey
By NancyA on August 17, 2008 at 6:20 PM in Barack Obama, Christianity, Current Affairs, Fox News, Hate Speech, Obama
Obama decided that it was important to hand out a 12 page booklet to the 2,200 people who streamed through Saddleback’s doors that chronicled the candidate’s “Christian journey” and his long relationship with Reverend Rick Warren (ahem! all of two years!). It may have been an aggressive move but, not very smart! The specter of Reverend Jeremiah Wright is upon us once more!
Let’s roll those clips!
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The campaign also announced Saturday that the upcoming Democratic National Convention would have a strong religious flavor, with “faith caucus meetings” to discuss religious voters’ concerns and daily invocations and benedictions from national faith leaders. The list includes Joel Hunter, a prominent Republican pastor from an evangelical Florida church; a Greek Orthodox archbishop; a Roman Catholic nun from Cleveland; and a Colorado couple who are both Methodist ministers.
Topics of the faith caucus meetings include “How an Obama Administration Will Engage People of Faith”; “Moral Values Issues Abroad”; and “Getting Out the Faith Vote.”
One piece of advice Obama, the convention will be televised. We will remember your 20 years of sitting in the pews and listening to Reverend Jeremiah Wright. In your own words! I didn’t know, I wasn’t there…….
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Man, I’m just counting down the days until the Republican 527 ads start hitting the airwaves. It’s gonna be brutal.
And deservedly so.
Who needs 527 attack ads when Obuhbuh keeps talking?
Yes, but just saw CNN & apparently the Obama camp are accusing McCain of not being in the “cone of silence” while Obama was being interviewed last night…thus, McCain may have known the questions ahead of time. I guess that’s the O’ camps latest, pathetic attempt to explain why McC was SO much better last night!
LOL
So only Obama is permitted to hear the questions in time to think about them (not that Obama thinks about anything other than who else he can throw under the bus)?
So are the bots saying that the person who goes first has the disadvantage? Hmm seems Hillary was first in ALL the debates with Obumba.
Bots are such Hypocrits and BABIES!
it’s tough for soeBOBOweenies to come to grips with the up close and personal reality that the precious…. is a shit head.
How on earth can we stop this man from being nominated. This is complete insanity. For those of you who watched the forum last night; here is a video for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDw_IHByu4k
The only way that’s going to happen is if someone who is not affiliated with the GOP goes to Indonesia and digs up the same kind of hard proof of Soetoro’s true nationality, religion and legal name that the GOP is rumored to have against him and is just waiting until after he is the official nominee before releasing them.
Seems like Obama is trying to cover every single base there is to cover from every single side.
Im wondering what some of the left wingers who voted for him are going to think. The religous aspect is going to really have the left wingers worried.
Obama seemed as uncomfortable at Saddleback as most Americans would be at Trinity.
And of course Obamedia is making all kinds of excuses for his poor performance at Saddleback.
let me guess, they blamed Hillary for his poor performance? Barry, you suck.
I need a barf bucket right now.
I can’t believe this crap.
Off Topic
Who “sent” Obama?
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/04/obamas-relationship-with-bomber-bill.html
Valerie Jarrett!
OBSP, what do you know about Valerie Jarrett? I saw her on CBS the other night and she seemed scary smart. What is her story?
Valerie Jarrett has deep connections to both the Daley machine and the University of Chicago. Her father, James Bowman, is Professor Emeritus in Pathology and Medicine at UC. Jarrett served in the Daley administration as Deputy Chief of Staff. In 1991, Michelle was working for the law firm of Sidley Austin (where Michelle met Barack and where Bernadine Dohrn, wife of Ayers, was employed) but was lured away for a position with Daley by Jarrett. Although not yet married to Barack, he insisted on meeting with Jarrett before he would “allow” Michelle to accept Jarrett’s offer. Jarrett left City Hall to lead the Chicago Transit Authority and made sure that Michelle served on its citizen advisory committee. Michelle eventually made her way to the University of Chicago where Jarrett was “appointed Chair of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board, Chair of a newly created Executive Committee of that board, and Vice-Chair of the University’s Board of Trustees.” Jarrett is also CEO of the Habitat Company, a residential real estate firm that is heavily involved in Chicago’s privatization of its low-income housing program.
Reporter Evelyn Pringle has noted that:
When it came time for Obama’s US Senate campaign, Valerie Jarrett became the campaign finance chairman and worked hand and hand with fellow finance committee members, Rita and Tony Rezko, and his former boss at the law firm, Allison Davis, in fundraising endeavors. The committee raised more than $14 million, according to Federal Election Commission records, Tim Novak reported in the Sun-Times on April 23, 2007.
An July 2008 article in the Boston Globe states that Habitat Co. was responsible until this past winter for the management of Grove Parc Plaza, a collection of 504 federally subsidized apartments located in Obama’s former state district. The article states:
About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.
Habitat also “co-managed an even larger subsidized complex in Chicago that was seized by the federal government in 2006, after city inspectors found widespread problems.”
http://pr.bsd.uchicago.edu/archives/42/valerie.html
http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle280308.htm
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
Very interesting, thanks!
You know you got to wonder about that relationship? William Ayers in his own spoke of his Bi-Sexually. Did he find a kindred bud with Soetoro?
book-sorry about that!
Someone ask Obama to cite one line of scripture from the Bible. I just don’t think he could do it.
His answers to faith based questions always seem unsure– like he’s trying to find the right words.
When you are a person of faith, those answers come naturally. And with Obama that it always seems forced.
Is it because the message he learned at TUCC is in different to mainsteam christian principles?
Yes, but he does know the Call to prayer for Allah!
I agree. He misquoted Matthew and said that “hopefully” his sins would be washed away. (I’ve also seen him use Matthew and Leviticus to mock Christians.)
Remember this very telling statement:
300 advisors can tell you how to answer questions but none of them changed his heart.
I’m not looking to vote for a pastor but I don’t want to vote for a liar: Obama has proven himself to be just that.
Where did he misquote Matthew? And where has he used Matthew and Leviticus to mock Christians?
Sigh. He did last night when he quoted from Micah 6:8. In fact, guess how many times McCain mentioned God or Jesus by name. Zero.
As a minister, I found that his answers were very natural, and very believable. I found his answers regarding salvation far more compelling than McCain’s. My job isn’t to judge, but when it comes to explaining salvation, Obama’s the one who I would want to do it between him and McCain.
This has nothing to do with the preparedness of being president, but it’s worth mentioning.
No offense, but I could care less what or who a president prays to as long as he puts the American people first.
Fair enough. I was simply arguing the point that I believe is unfounded. That’s all.
Sec, so you’re a minister? So as a minister, are you a christian minister? And if you are, what is the way to heaven? And is there a heaven? I have my own reasons for asking. You see, I listened to a speech of Obama’s where he was asked these questions and he said there are many paths to heaven. Wrong. And then he said he wasn’t sure if there was a heaven. Wrong again. I ask because I have seen many lies that he “the one” has spoken. And as a christian, I know that the word alone means a follower of Christ. So, according to the bible, there is only one way to heaven and God and that is through the son, Jesus. And if you don’t believe in a heaven, then the first point is moot. Obama is not a christian. I don’t know what he is, but I know he is not a christian. He is just pandering, lying and will do whatever to get elected. Now, I will also say, that I don’t care that he’s not a christian, but I do care that he has chosen to lie about it. At least Wright was right on one count and that is that Obama will say whatever it takes to get elected.
And if you are a minister, you are leading your flock astray.
Amen to that.
As a liberal atheist I was thrilled that McC seemed less enthralled with the link between god & politics. In fact, Obama’s devotion is costing him votes among many progressives — can’t have it all, can you? Obama is WAY too religious for some of us…
Sec…..As a minister….You surely understand how the Theologian Cardinal Rattenzinger ( Now Pope Benedict ) objected to the synthesis of Marxism with a Heretical interpretation of Jesus and Christianity to expose and condemn Liberation Theology that swept Latin America in the 70’s and 80’s.
Liberation Theology = Christian Heresy
Liberation Theology is Marxism wrapped in the Baby Jesus.
Black Liberation Theology defines the Marxist class struggle as a racial one.
Black Liberation Theology is the FASCIST Daughter of the Marxist Parent.
Any Christian Doctrinal Instruction Obama/Soetero received was warped with Heresy and Fascist justification of the heresy.
What unites Nation of Islam and TUCC = Fascism
As a fake ministerbot I found his answers very acceptable to the sheeple
I’m telling you, I don’t think he even knows the pledge of allegiance! I would love for a kid to ask him to recite it.
A guy in Ohio did. To his credit, Obuhbuh knew it. Seemed like a set-up, but check out the security response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031VHnUD0aw
Gawd almighty! It felt like that poor citizen was in Russia. Obamabots are not normal Americans. Un fucking believable!
As it seems The One is trying to cover every single base:
Hey Barry -
Explain your long-standing “relationship” with the (also) twenty-year choir director, murdered execution-style (Chicago hit job) days before your debut on the national political stage, after he had been in correspondence with Larry Sinclair, another paramour ready to blow the whistle.
It’s been alleged that Wright was right in the middle of that,(in more ways than one) too.
Think we have figured out WHY you hung around TUCC for twenty years. All of Chicago knows. Share it with the rest of us, won’t you?
THIS STORY IS FACTUALLY IMCOMPLETE!!
HOW CAN YOU LET THIS STORY GO LIVE WITHOUT STARTING AT THE BEGINNING?
HE WAS BORN IN A MANGER!!
And grew up in a log cabin, too, reading by the light of a kerosene lamp.
Kerosene that he had to drill for with his own bare hands in his backyard in that log bacin in Selma Alabama….so dont tell me he doesnt have a claim on Kerosene and energy independance. Energy independence got him born.
And don’t forget the hard work. He knows hard work.
Then he was captured against his will and taken to Indonesia where he HAD to go to school and LEARN the ways of Islam!
He saved his hard earned money made by being a beggar in the street and finally found refuge in his Gramma’s house…in Hawaii.
after building a boat from a cherry tree he chopped down with a toothbrush handle he sharpened on the bare concrete floor of his log cabin and subsequently rowing all the way across the pacific ocean by himself to hawaii. you forgot that part.
You missed a bit of the story.
In Hawaii, while searching for Grandma, he unfortunately booked passage on the Granma, ended up in the Sierra Maestre and helped Castro and Guevara liberate Cuba.
But this revolution was not faith-based, and profoundly disillusioned, he built a raft, and after a perilous crossing, ended up in Key West and then Miami.
The Cuban exile community was so impressed by this guy’s heroics, that they gave him a one way ticket back to Hawaii, so that he could finally reunite with Grandma.
If you don’t believe this story ask the Cuban exile community in Miami.
He is also the true biological Father of Elian Gonzales.
Are you all reading from “the Life of Pi?”
On that raft he rescued two of every beast known to man, because God,his Father, sent a great flood. But then, the night he captured the nomination, he prophesied that this is the time when the oceans will slow their rise. And God saw the light, and it was good.
And he chopped down the cherry tree and Obama LIED about it too…
LOL!
Crack me up!!!!
Quoting scriptures really doesnt mean much. Most educatied agonistics I know can really agrue the bible. Although Obamam might not be able to speak very well without a telepromter, I think he is smart enough to know enough of the bible to keep the facade going.
Someone oughta teach him that bit about “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.”
He is the Messiah. Its all his. Get over it.
Instead, I think that Obama is thinking more along the lines of “From each according to their abilities, to each accoding to their needs.”
Obama is like 1984, the book. Changing with the wind, rewriting history and then calling YOU insane for daring to remember the truth. He is an embarassment, a nightmare and a danger to our country. The Democratic party should be immediately dismantled for shilling for this POS. THEN it may be rebuilt. It can not be salvaged as it currently stands.
If this doesn’t get your blood boiling, nothing will. Can you believe that we are about to nominate this guy?!
WE?
I had nothing to do with it.
Infact I opposed it vehemently.
Don’t you dare say we.
It’s THEM!
THEY are about to nominate him.
We are just going to have to deal with it,
get over it,
or stay home,
cuz THEY DON’T NEED US!
The obscenity of the Democratic Party’s manipulation of young voters and black voters pales in comparison to their apparently intended manipulation of “faith-based” religious sensibilities in this campaign.
It’s hypocritical; it’s blasphemous; it’s evil.
And it seems to be the only way they think can gain the White House without older voters, women, and white working class adults.
Young People are stupid as f*ck. I know i was one.
You show me one video on youtube of a 50 year old educated adult, man or woman, putting a firecracker in their ass and lighting it.
Can’t find it? Yeah me neither.
Now look for a Young person doing it.
like look here!!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=firecracker+butt&search_type=&aq=f
over 5 pages of young people sticking firecrackers in their butts and lighting them.
What does this tell you?
It tells you that when we are young and stupid we will do lots of stupid things.
Now do you really think they are aware of what they are doing voting for obama?
We were all young and stupid at some point, but thank god nobody pandered to me to get elected when i was sticking firecrackers in my ass…i would never forgive myself if they had and i had complied.
This quote has been attributed to many statesmen:
If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
I think the last word in the second line of your quote is “head”.
At least, that’s how I remember that remark.
It was a classic remark.
Oh Jeremiah lol you made my day- I remember my brother and 2 neighbor boys lighting matches and blowing them out by farting…The whole visual is like Obama- a fart in a blizzard…LOL!
[...] Oh, and before we forget, evangelicals reading this post, remember where Obama’s personal journey of faith has taken him… 20 years of atheism followed by 20 years of instruction under Revvum Jurr-Miuh Wright. http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/17/obamas-christian-journey/#more-4224 [...]
“ Be religiously careful in our choice of all public officers…and judge of the tree by its fruits.”
- Elias Boudinot
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Best quote I’ve seen pertaining to Obama…
Not sure about you guys, but I know many on the way left are really going to be taking second looks at this guy if he goes any futher right. Hey look at it guys, if Obama goes any further right he’s going to be more of a Republican Rightist than McCain is.
Well, you’ve seen The Nation’s open letter to fauxbama, right? yeah, the left is VERY nervous.
here’s the link:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/open_letter
Nader Rox
Thank you for this link…
The Nation will be thrown under the bus in the next few days..
OT: Merkel sides with Georgia membership to NATO.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080817/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_russia
Wes Clark would give you a lot of help right now if NATO comes into play at all.
Dumb move throwing him under the convention bus.
Looks like McCain’s call for the membership contingency plans to remain in place re:Georgian republic is starting to gain traction from EU members wanting buffer states and containment policy to be developed.
Though Gen. Clark left that ambiguious door open for VP in today’s interview on Fox, they always do that, what with the world ever changing as it is, and video clips of a punto en tiempo being so available…he said with certainty that he was no surrogate for Obama.
Isn’t Clark going to Milan during Convention Week? And wasn’t even on the attendance list?
That’s a long, long way from Denver…
Of course he is otherwise booked and out of the picture. My only point was on live TV, no one will ever admit the inevitable, b/c the inevitable may not happen.
When lowly serfs and peasants stormed the gates in France, they had tired of having no say nor rights in their land.
When elitists say “Let them eat cake,” I say it’s time to throw the cake in their faces.
When Patriots were paying taxes without representation, they tired of a government that did not listen to them and dumped tea into Boston Harbor.
I say it’s time to throw SuperDelegates who support The One overboard at the ballot boxes this November and every November until they are eliminated. NO EXCEPTIONS.
When Pilgims sought freedom of religion and from tyranny, they were willing to launch to parts unknown - for the dream of a better life, even if death ensued. Give me Liberty or Give me Death.
REVOLUTIONS OCCUR WHEN DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES.
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WaPo ombudsman admits Obama dominates coverage - and not just at WaPo! - but in all media. Corporations know a cash cow when they see one.
Just ask Paris Hilton.
Obama’s Edge in the Coverage Race
By Deborah Howell
Sunday, August 17, 2008; B06
Democrat Barack Obama has had about a 3 to 1 advantage over Republican John McCain in Post Page 1 stories since Obama became his party’s presumptive nominee June 4. Obama has generated a lot of news by being the first African American nominee, and he is less well known than McCain — and therefore there’s more to report on. But the disparity is so wide that it doesn’t look good.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/15/AR2008081503100_pf.html
Oh and - more media coverage = more donations.
That’s my home paper and the coverage has been really slanted. Mosk, Kornblut, Murray — their main writers — all have been loving Obama from the get-go. I’ve written this before here, but there are great quotes from 2 ex-Posties at Politico about how love struck some of the Post reporters were/are. John Harris said:
What political skill? I have never seen it? It’s all hype.
See this wool?
Let me pull it over your eyes.
His only skill.
must watch…CSpan replay today, 8/10/08 was the live date, of McGovern, Adlai Stevenson III, Jesse Jackson Sr. and John Andersen and a couple of others discussing the Democratic primary system. Fixing the multiple problems we have created for ourselves needs to be priority numero uno, after BHO loses this November, for 2012.
Oh, I forgot. I resigned from the Democratic Party. Perhaps some or many will return if there is a true desire to make the Democratic Party democratic.
I’m resigning after the election.
I want to cast my dissenting vote as a Democrat.
I also didn’t want to give anyone any excuses to fuck with my registration and keep me from voting.
good idea.
Anne, do you have link? I cant find.
For now, this may be informative and is relevent to your post…
Watch these EXCELLENT videos.
View the video’s released on August 9th 2008 by the Sam J
Ervin Jr, former chairman of Watergate commission, library and museum in Morgantown NC. According to producers, the DNC (with the support of the MSM) has perpetuated a crime and fraud against the American voters by claiming Obama as the presumptive nominee.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Khsg8iKjU
:Superdelegates votes can not count until convention
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXpz8AJk8TM
*VERY IMPORTANT PART: Why Obama is not the presumptive nominee
Fellow bloggers- these videos are very educational, interesting, and well-researched and documented. People are indeed repeating history. What is happening in 2008 has happened several times in the past. Educate your fellow voters. Forward these links to others.
I can’t. It was on from 1-2 CST, but it is not in their schedule. wish I had recorded it.
The most important thing I recall from it was McGovern saying having no SD’s and him being the nominee - he was unelectable in the GE, won Mass and D.C., but having SD’s for Mondale - he was also unelectable in the GE, winning Minn. and D.C. Made no difference having them or not. And the point of having them was to keep the Dem’s from electing an unelectable GE candidate. I predict Obama will win only Illinois and D.C. in the GE.
Obama didn’t got to Wright’s church to learn to be Xtian. He went there to learn to be black.
That’s an incredibly racist statement and has no place in dialogue.
lol, and I bet you’re white, and you live in the suburbs in your mom and dad’s basement …
obama’s experience is not that of black america, his step daddy was a rich asian, he went to ivy league schools and attended an exclusive prep school in hawaii, he lives in a mansion now and works part time jobs …if you think that’s the normal black american experience i suggest you come down here with me to the ninth ward of new orlean where I live and have lived for some time and wake TF up
It’s the constant go-to for Oblowme idiots.
It’s all racist all the time.
I agree with you dak! That is exactly what he did!
Actually thats exactly what he claimed he did in his book in more elequent terms. As he put it, he joined Trinity to get Street cred with the black community because his upbringing and experiences had not exposed him to black culture in america.
Kenya and Indonesia is not american black culture, and neither is body surfing in Hawaii.
Now Take your racist accusations back to camp koolaid SEC, seriously, everybody is SICK TO DEATH of the OVERUSE of the term RACIST!!
If there were as many racists in america as the Obama campaign wants us to believe there are he wouldn’t have gotten on the bus nevermind the Democratic Ticket for President.
Jeremiah-
you are correct about what Sen Obama wrote in his book.
Here is another reason why some people think Sen Obama joined Trinity-
Focus on his role of ‘community organizer’ and what this means in these articles listed below.
http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-community-organizer-what-is-community-organizing-anyway
Read the blogger’s comments on this website (windycity)-including my comments (athy).
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=a74fca23-f6ac-4736-9c78-f4163d4f25c7&p=10
Horseapples…
The statement refers to the FACT that Barry had never been in a black environment in his whole life. His first American school experience took place in Hawaii where he would have been in the smallest racial group because he was mostly White. College? In his “Dreams…” Law school? Ah yes, nothing like those wonderful ethics papers he wrote in Ebonics.
The first time he spent in the majority company of the downtrodden Brothers and Sisters described to him by “Uncle Frank” was when he moved to Chicago. Barry did have to learn to be black. He had to learn to talk the talk and all that shit because he never had that cultural exposure.
That you call statements of fact “racism” is, in its own right vastly more insidious and racist.
Truth always trumps your smalltime race cards.
There’s nothing racist about that statement. Barack Obama is a bi racial man raised by his white Grandparents. He was looking for an authentic black identity.
Where is the racism?
What about his white parents identity
You racist.
That’s not a racist comment SEC. BO says so himself. He is most distinctly NOT a product of African-American culture. He is bi-racial, raised in Hawaii and Indonesia by a white mother and white grandparents. He attended an exclusive prep school in Hawaii and elite colleges: Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Unlike virtually all other African-Americans he is NOT the descendent of slaves.
You don’t have to watch BO for too long before it is apparent he is far more comfortable around rich, white, elitists than he is in the African-American community.
I found this link through a post the other day. I will continue to pass it on. I recommend that everyone read it.
Lying for Islam is exceptable. Here is a sight to go to read about “Taqiyya”. It is very CHILLING and it fits Obama.
The word “Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm
acceptable.not exceptable.all day long i deal with this…sorry. just don’t do it again.
don’t worry Smalltown, you can do make up work in detention!
kewl, can I lissen to my ipod?
Sure… but NO TEXTING!
It’s not “chilling” at all. Taquiyya is an element of the Islamic faith. You may not like it, or agree with it, but it is what it is–a stupid little “rule” that MEN made up, because THEY “know” what Allah thinks–they have a hotline to the guy.
If you feel you’re in danger, you lie like a rug. That’s the rule in a nutshell!
Everyone does it, the only “special” thing about it as relates to Islam is that Allah gives you a dispensation to lie about your faith if you think you’re going to be killed or maimed.
The Ayatollahs love to gripe about this practice, too. It used to be a primarily Shi’a practice, but since Sunnis started getting persecuted in pockets here and there, they’re feeling it, too.
Now, if you want to suggest that Obama is practicing taquiyya, go right ahead. Personally, I don’t think Obama gives a flying shit about ANYTHING BUT OBAMA–not his fake “Christian” faith, not his childhood Islamic education, not anything but HIMSELF. It actually takes discipline and knowledge to be a halfway decent Muslim, and Obama doesn’t have the “right stuff” to even do that in a serious and meaningful way.
I am so sorry in so many languages in getting hung up on your use of accept. What you have presented here is so important into the thinking of islamic culture. My many apologies for not reading through and getting this earlier. This is so important for everyone to read!
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
Caligirl-
This is excellent …Thank you so much for this link .
I will forward to others.
It really puts things in perspective. Article is WELL WRITTEN AND VERY WELL DOCUMENTED. PEOPLE NEED TO READ THIS!!!
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html
Russia Threatens To Arm Fighters, Cruisers, and Subs With Nukes
No time for milquetoast Barry.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1274
Fudge!
Hey, right! It’s time for McCain to keep jerking their chain!
Do you honestly think that Barky, who is afraid of debating a 60 year old woman and a 72 year old man has the grapes to go head to head with Putin? A KGB agent who not only managed to survive the fall of the wall but rose to be the leader of the former Soviet Union. Not to mention his people LOVE HIM! No easy feat.
I think McCain is seriously dangerous. He’s possibly completely nuts. The proof has been on the news. Nobody seems to get it.
Circle December 20, 2012 on your calendars, boys and girls. We’ve got ourselves a workable scenario. McCain is playing politics. The Russians are deadly serious.
And Barky should be at home with Michelle taking his girls to soccer practice, buying organic veggies and drinking non fat lattes.
On 12/20/12 Barry will be serving year three of a 5-15 in a federal cooler, where he and Tony Rezko will have miraculously converted to Islam……
Don’t get my hopes up, Zeke. Accountability, what a concept.
Exactly. McCain has a hard-on for the Russians since Vietnam. If he’s elected, we’re looking at WWIII. And this time, everyone has nukes, not just us. We need to keep this guy and his neocon buddies as far away from the button as possible.
Whatever… You have no idea of what you are talking about.
You think not? That was a pretty blunt statement, but there’s some serious truth behind it. If you don’t know that, there’s probably a lot you don’t know.
Yo jiggity!
If the ONE says the sky is blue and Jesus says the sky is pink what color is the sky?
Stop the hate!
Really, asshat…
You’re trying way too hard to pick a fight. We know that you are an inexperienced troll much like some of the other candy-ass Gazaboyz so run back to your handler and confess that those virgins’ll just have to wait awhile. Why don’t you pubescent little punks just look at porn instead…
It seems to me that John McCain and company are the guys trying to pick a fight. With the Russians. With the Iranians. With (fill in the blank). This isn’t smart. This is crazy as a bedbug. We’re up to our ears in open-ended wars already. How many do you want?
You have it backwards. Russia knows this is exactly the right time to act up, if you will. Russia knows we can’t do anything militarily because our troops are tied in a two frontal war!
If we were in a recession, the Russians would be doing this stuff because then we would be financially weak.
They attack Democratic countries because they hate the fact they are leaning to our side.
Putin isn’t tring to make anothe communist party but he is resurrecting the Czarist days!
Respectfully, I have a slightly different perspective.
It looks to me as if Russia feels threatened by our persistent efforts to turn former Soviet-block nations directly on the Russian homeland border into NATO-member states. Essentially, to hem them in militarily.
They undoubtably also feel threatened by our efforts to place anti-ballistic missile systems in some of those same countries.
So there’s Georgia. A paid, registered agent and lobbyist for the Republic of Georgia is McCain’s top foreign policy advisor. The guy is also a member of PNAC and president of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. This guy has been lobbying hard to bring Georgia into NATO.
The Georgians suddenly launch a full-scale military incursion into South Ossetia–right on the Russian border–which Russia has a UN mandate to protect. They kill 2000 civilians, and kill Russian peacekeepers stationed there in the process.
Why would they do this? They know the Russians outclass them militarily. Apparently somebody led them to believe they could get away with this.
Of course the Russians are pissed. And of course they’re poised to retalliate. They’ve been watching developments next door for a long time. The next day they do. With a vengence. They know we’re up to the same shit in Ukraine. They decide it’s time to make a point. Which, hopefully, they have done.
Hopefully they will roll back out of Georgia, point made. Hopefully we will change our behavior somewhat, and be content to have a non-NATO buffer around Russia instead of a threatening NATO presence. But I’m not sure John McCain got the message.
This is one of the reasons John McCain worries me.
Russia may be acting up because Obama’s biggest backer Brezenenski hates russia and had a lot to do with the Afganistan and Russian fiasco. Do your research ZIGGY!!!
god you are beyond stupid if you really think that. Seriously Lay off the Koolaid, its already done you irrepairable harm.
weenie:
He never knows what he’s talking about.
He can’t reconcile that his Messiah ain’t what he purports to be and he sold his soul for $7 per hour.
Stop the hate weenie!
Well according to a certain person, Barry Soetoro gets one riding in Limos on Chicago streets smoking a certain glass pipes!
Kelvin, not sure how old you are sweetie, but ‘we’ haven’t been the only country with nukes since, oh…the late 1940’s. That’s mostly what the cold war was about you know.
It’s actually on the 21st. But don’t let a little thing like the end of the Mayan calendar get in the way of a weak attempt to use speculation.
Yeah, let’s just, as a nation, curl up into the fetal position instead,
Has anyone tracked SoetorObama’s strange transition into an MLK accent when he speaks? In much the same way he dresses like JFK, he has donned this affectation for poltical benefit. Everytime I hear him speak he sounds more and more like MLK.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Ohio_818.pdf
Ohio is now tied. The same pollster, PPP, had Obama up by 8 a few weeks ago.
You are Obama speech this in an audio of what he was tought to be racist-I heard it we all heard it-White people must die-Get into the big house and take control for who all you terrorist friends.
NOWAY!NOBAMA –AND NO WE WILL NOT VOTE OBAMA AND WE WILL NOT FALL IN LINE IN DENVER TO PLAY ANOTHER FALSE TRAP AS IT WAS ON MARCH 31,08-NO REV J WRIGHTIS WRONG-OBAMA BROUGHT THIS RASIST IN TO USE IT-GO TO HELLOBAMA!
YOU TELL ME HOW CAN YOU SIT IN THIS CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS AND NOT BE BRAINWASHERED INTO THIS TYPE OF THEOLOGY. THIS CHURCH HAS A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON DC LOBBYING CONGRESS MEMBERS FOR SLAVE THATS SLAVE REPIRATIONS. SOMEONE WITH SOME GUTS NEEDS TO QUESTION OBAMA ON THIS MATTER. I FEEL WEHAVE GIVEN ENOUGH THROUG EMPLOYMENT QUOTAS, NEGRO SCHOLARSHIPS, AND AS WE ARE WITNESSING A DIFFERENT SET OF QUALIFICATIONS TO BECOME THE US PRESIDENT.
READ MORE AND SEE THE PICTURE OF THE SLAVE REPIRATIONS PHOTO AT MY WEBSITE
http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com
Uh huh. How can otherwise rational Americans sit in John Hagee’s church for twenty years and not be equally brainwashed? So, is everybody in Hagee’s congregation a dangerous extremist? No doubt the majority of them are John McCain supporters. I suppose it follows that all of those McCain supporters are dangerous lunatics? A bunch of crazy white people?
“Those who live by the Qur’an have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews… it teaches that very clearly.”
Hagee is equally fond of Catholics.
And Hagee thinks Hitler was God’s “hunter”; His instrument for driving the Jewish people to Palestine as part of the Great Plan.
You seem to have some equally interesting ideas about Reverend Wright and his church.
I thought you folks didn’t approve of the race card. If so, kindly stop slapping it down on the table.
Wrong. McCain got himself into big doodoo with the right wing nutjobs when he called them something like ‘agents of intolerance’. It’s taken him years of political mea culpas to get them to vote for him and they still don’t like him. But the thought of Barky as president has made for strange bedfellows.
Valsthewoman-
Although the topic of race was brought up constantly in this campaign by Sen Obama & his handlers, the topic of reparations for slavery was never discussed.
What about Sen Obama’s position regarding reparations for slavery from western and ex-colonial European powers for Africa and African nations?
During the 2001 UN-sponsored World Conference against Racism, many African nations demanded an apology-plus other things- from ex-colonial European nations for the role they (European nations) had in promoting the slave trade. Why doesn’t Sen Obama ever discuss this very important ‘race’ issue.
What is Sen Obama’s position on this issue?
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/09/01/durban.slavery/index.html
Another interesting article (see below) which may allow us to infer what Sen Obama’s position on reparations issue MIGHT BE:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633/page/1
“When Barry Became Barack” by Richard Wolffe, Jessica Ramirez and Jeffrey Bartholet
NEWSWEEK 3/31/08 Issue
I found this story very interesting however I was quiet surprised when I reached the last page.
The author recounted a story that was passed on to Sen Obama by white family members concerning an incident at a waikiki bar involving Sen Obama’s bio-dad Barry Sr.
“Barry’s white grandfather and several other Hawaiian friends take Barry Sr. to a Waikiki bar. It’s a joyous scene, everyone eating and drinking “to the sounds of a slack-key guitar,” when a white man with a booming voice announces to the bartender that he shouldn’t have to drink “next to a nigger.” The stunned clientele expects a fight. But Barry Sr. smiles and quietly lectures the man “about the folly of bigotry, the promise of the American dream, and the universal rights of man.” In response, the shamed white man gives Barry Sr. $100, in apparent payment for his sin of racism. Even the young Obama found the tale hard to believe. But many years later, he recalls in “Dreams From My Father,” he got a phone call from a Japanese-American man who had been a classmate of Barry Sr.’s in Hawaii. Unprompted, the man told Obama the same story. Obama says he was struck by the man’s tone of “disbelief—and hope.”
I have wondered for a while now why , although Sen
Obama talks about certain race issues he omits discussion on a VERY IMPORTANT RACE ISSUE: Reparations for slavery. You can imagine my surprise when I got to the last page of the Newsweek article. I am prompted to re-ask my question.
Reparations for slavery both in the U.S and in Africa- Last year Sen Obama supported the very controversial 3rd ward Ald. Dorothy Tillman in her runoff against an independent candidate. Tillman is one of the most important and outspoken U.S advocates of reparations for slavery.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/miller/309639,CST-EDT-MILL23.article
SunTimes Commentary- “Will 3rd Ward politics affect Obama’s presidential race? “ by Rich Miller 3/23/07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Tillman
I can’t get over Obama sitting in Wright’s hate hole for 20 years and then having the audacity to run for president. How is Obama even in the race at this point?
More excerpts from reports about how the caucus delegate count has been distorted in BO’s favor by the caucuses and the DNC. We are depending on Super Delegates to take this into account when they identify and vote for the electable Democrat.
The 2008 Democratic Party nomination for the presidency was stolen from Hillary Clinton and given to Barack Obama by certain members of the party leadership.
Five states (NH, NV, SC, MI and FL) broke the DNC’s primary timing rules, but only two—big states that Hillary was sure to win, Michigan and Florida—were penalized. The holding back of those two states allowed Obama to claim he was ahead in the race, even when he wasn’t. Unfortunately, a lot of people fell for that nonsense and started to consider him the frontrunner. That had an impact on media coverage and likely influenced the vote in later primaries. Paul Lukasiak documented this problem on several blogs, including InsightAnalytical, and found other evidence of what he calls “’stop Hillary’ corruption” among the party leadership.
There was manipulation, if not outright fraud, in the caucuses. A group is making a film about it, and Lynette Long offers a detailed report. Pacific John, writing at MyDD, gave us a taste of what went on in Texas, but it wasn’t the only state with serious problems reported. Dr. Long has started a new website, Caucus Fraud, to document as much as possible of what happened.
Peniel Cronin’s final report, “Primary versus Caucus: How millions of voters were systemically disenfranchised and election results were skewed” has just been published at TalkLeft (pdf). The most significant findings:
Though voters in all 13 caucus states cast only 2.9% of the total 35.9 million votes, those caucus votes control 14.6% of the pledged delegates and 15.5% of the Super delegates sent to the DNC Convention…
39 Primaries with 34.8 million voters gave Clinton a lead in both votes and delegates. Caucuses with 1.1 million voters gave Obama 300,000 more votes and 206 more delegates.
Rather than being penalized for the tactical move of removing his name from the Michigan ballot, on May 31 Obama was rewarded instead, by the Rules & Bylaws Committee of the DNC. He was given delegates who did not vote for him, and was even given four of HILLARY’s delegates. There is no precedent for that kind of theft.
Had the RBC not halved the votes from Florida and Michigan and given to Obama delegates who didn’t vote for him, Hillary would also be ahead in pledged delegates. From Riverdaughter:
[N]ow we know why the RBC did what [they] did. She had over 100 delegates from Florida and 73 from Michigan. If he got zero from Michigan and both states had been able to seat with full strength, she could have added over 86 delegates and he would have lost 59. Hmm, that brings her total to 1725 and Obama’s to 1707.
If that’s not a stolen nomination, I don’t know what is.
Super Delegates - you can cure this and get us back to the White House - Hillary Clinton is the only electable Democrat!
Caligirl-
This link provides more detail regarding the stolen nomination:
http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
it’s just about electing an African American president–wouldn’t matter if he had an IQ of 200 or 20. And that’s so unfortunate, but I guess America has a way to go before it won’t matter what race the candidate is. He being the first AA to get this close has a large portion of the population not even thinking straight. This man should have bided his time. He’s young. He needed to learn to be a true civil servant and serve this country in the Senate some more, rather than listen to the witch in his mirror that he’s the fairest in the land. (She might have looked a lot like Oprah.)
It wasn’t his turn. But now that the DNC has placed him on this pedestal, they can’t take him down without risking all-out war among their ranks.
What Hillary brought was years of experience and genuine concern for this country. McCain brings years of major accomplishments in service for this country and the wisdom that comes from age, as well as a deep love and concern. Age is a good thing.
BO wants glory. BO wants cities renamed for him, his face on a coin, mothers in America to name their children after him. No one will ever convince me that he has this country’s best interests in his heart. He had barely become an Illinois state senator when he began his mission for a US Senate seat. He barely became that and he coyly tested the waters for the presidency.
He has truly done NOTHING worthy of a presidential position.
He has truly done NOTHING worthy of a presidential position.
So true!!
You hit the nail on the head.
Obama is THE symbolism over substance candidate.
PUMA
NSO!!
Never Supporting Obama!!
What exactly did Hillary do besides be married to Bill that will qualify her to be president. She simply ran on name recognition and nothing more.
same could be said about obama using race to try to make up for his inexperience, hat’s not a qualification for presidency.
cleanup on memory lane.
Kelvin, good luck.
The Obama juice not only causes CDS, it also acts as a memory swiper and/or info veiler…
Time for you to go to detox Kelvin…
Obama KoolAid is “liberally” dosed with Milk of Amnesia
The people that backed this fraud are now up against the wall. Think of it, if by some miracle the superdelegates did the right thing and Hillary was the nominee, BO, Axelrod and the mainstream media would not let it go, the cry of ‘racism’ would be deafening, that’s the whole point of BO’s nomination. He’s the one leftist, radical politician that no one can criticize because it’s racism. His pandering to the evangelicals was pathetic, he did that rubbing his face with his forefinger thing and he looked scared to death. How is this disaster going to be President? BO as president will keep us in hell, at least with McCain we’re one step up in Purgatory where we wait for Hillary in 2012.
Here is something else to think about: The black people trusted Obama and elected him to the Ill. State Senate, he directed tax payer money into the pockets of the Chicago Combine and Tomy Rezko.
The tax money came from well intended tax payers who tried to help provide better living conditions to the poor people living in Chicago’s South Side Slums. Obama left them to freeze in the winter and die of heat in the summer, to live in rat and cockroach infested garbage strune slums with broken windows and doors.
Obama got a landmark mansion in Chicago’s historic district, complements of Rezko and the Chicago Combine.
Yet, when South Siders go to church Wright, who knows the truth and has his hand out behind his back for the crooks to fill, just as the Rev Phlem does, tells all the suffering Black folk that it is because of White folk’s greed and racial hate that they suffer - and the Black folk all jump up and clap and shout Amen, Hallelujah.
Think about that,
if that isn’t the race card, I don’t now what is.
If you want to read about Chicago politics, research Illinois hospitals and the Chicago combine.
Hospital boards are a cash cow in Illinois.
Hey Larry,
What happened to Texas Darlin? Did she get thrown under the NoQuarter bus?
no, that’s obama’s job.
Those kinds of things happen to you when your not credible.
You would know, Kelvin.
Rev. Wright was the turning point for me. I never trusted Obama after seeing his crazy pastor.
I was watching c-span on Sat. 8/16. Waldman, a representative from Media Matters was one of the guests. He basically stated in so many words that bringing up Rev Wright makes a person a racist. If you go to C-span.org you can see the interview.
Here’s an O’Reilly/Fox video that says the same thing about Waldman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xigZDeqdI54
Walman’s analogy is crazy IMO, it’s almost as crazy as Rev. Wright is.
Media Matters is so partisan it’s become a joke. I used to follow their articles, but no more.
I watched that cspan show and that media Matters kid was so in the tank for Obama it totally discredited his ‘unbiased’ search for misinformation in the media. I learned since then that moveon.org is one of Media Matters backers.
Media Matters has been BUSTED.
hey, crackers, tell me how you can sit in a pew for your entire life and hear that jews murdered your god, and not be an anti-semite…do you do that by helping to send money to Israel to kill arabs in order to assuage your guilt?
Oh shut it, you racist bovine. You need your ovaries revoked before you multiply.
How’s the weather in Gaza asswipe? Are the Israeli’s zeroing in on your isp yet? I’m sure they have enough info…
crackers …. how soon ’til “ofay” or my absolute favorite, “snowflake…” is brought out.
Knucklehead, don’t use “Shaft” for your ethnic slurs database…
crackers … un f**king believable
Beck-lie:
Oh, no, no, no! You be one angry- well it is Sunday.
You did not say crackers! You so funny.
What’s so insulting about being a cracker?
Stop the hate, hater!
becky -
All my life I heard that the Almighty, Ever Living God became human and laid down His life in payment to His own sense of perfection for our imperfection. And that in doing so He guaranteed our eternal life. Yes, even yours. And perhaps HE nods and offers and indulgent smile at your fervent but short sighted prayers for an eternity limited to your idea that it should only consist of you using 13 virgins.
Most especially since He also hears the fervent prayers of the 13 Virgins, who pray to be freed. Freed to be who they are and to explore the limitless possibilities provided especially for them by an All Knowing, All Loving, All Powerful God.
Rather than being penalized for the tactical move of removing his name from the Michigan ballot, on May 31 Obama was rewarded instead, by the Rules & Bylaws Committee of the DNC. He was given delegates who did not vote for him, and was even given four of HILLARY’s delegates. There is no precedent for that kind of theft.
If they do seat all the delegates like BO says he wants now, doesn’t that mean he gets eight of Hillary’s Michigan delegates?
Oh dear God. To list Hillary’s accomplishments long before she even became First Lady would take hours. Describing her work as First Lady, and then as NY Senator would take another full day. And then throw in the fact that she has done more since the primary ended than BO did his entire time in the Senate. And wrap it up with the pretty bow that all of this work has been in concrete areas that expressly helped people livve better lives, especially poor people.
I’d list a small sampling but I know the ‘bots have limited attention spans and I’m all out of sparkly stickers.
[...] flip flop, the good guys become the bad guys. No wonder he felt at home at <a href=”http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/17/obamas-christian-journey/”>Jeremiah Wright’s</a> Trinity [...]
Keep in mind that Obama’s first and only christian awakening was in THAT church with THAT minister. He never embraced or followed any organized faith before that. From what I’ve heard, he was exposed to more hate filled rhetoric than to christian faith preaching. So for him to hold up HIS (hate filled) christian faith as an example of his goodness, is only political expediency. It is a far cry from the christianity the the majority of Americans know.
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