Seems Like Business As Usual
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on August 19, 2008 at 7:38 AM in Abortion, Andrea Mitchell, Backtrack Obama, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Citizenship, Electability, GLBT, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Pandering
For Obama, that is. Larry Johnson has a great piece here at No Quarter entitled, “The Obama Messiah Is A Whiner. The title gives it away a bit - it is about Obama’s new claim that McCain “cheated” during the Saddleback Church Forum on Saturday night on 8/16/08. Yes, he is claiming McCain cheated, and THAT is why Obama bombed in comparison. It has nothing whatsoever to do with his prevaricating on every single question asked of him, even going so far as to make shit - uh, I mean, stuff up (the guy was NOT in the Senate when the Resolution which led to Bush declaring war came to a vote no matter HOW he wants to spin that one as a “gut wrenching decision. Uh, yeah, Obama - just keep telling yourself you have been in the US Senate longer than you have, sure, go on ahead, that is just peachy keen. No, really - go right ahead. No one will notice that you were not really there for that vote. Yikes. Scary.).
Oh, wait - not every single question - there was at least one when you showed your truly narcissistic, superficial side. Wanna guess which one? That’s right - about his moral failure was in drinking and doing drugs as a teenager (a TEENAGER - nothing since then!!! Wow, he really IS Obush!!), a direct result of his mother being a poor sharecropper who didn’t have a row to hoe—-oh, wait - that’s not the right meme. No, his mother was a poor, single mother with no resources whatsoever who reared him all by her lonesome living hand to mouth his entire life until he somehow, someway, through his own sheer grit and determination, got into an Ivy League University. The rest, as they say, is history. Hey, wait - he prevaricated there, TOO!! A twofer! Woohoo! In this case, I think it is safe to call that a fairy tale. But never mind - all politicians embellish just a little right? RIGHT? That’s all it was, not flat-out lying!!! Oh, sure. Ahem.
Let us put to rest the Obama (false) charge that McCain cheated, and heard Obama’s “conversation” with Rev. Rick Warren. Warren HIMSELF said McCain was sequestered away, and could not hear anything. Freakin’ enough on that crapola, Andrea (Mitchell, NBC shill for Obama - see link at “cheated” above). Unless Obama has a teleprompter in front of him with a speech written by his 20-something white speechwriter (I am not kidding - CHECK it out for yourself), he does not know WHAT he thinks or for what he stands. Whatever YOU are for, so is he, until the next person comes along and supports the exact opposite. And that is McCain’s fault HOW, exactly?? Because he actually DOES know what he thinks and for what he stands (and no, this is NOT an endorsement of McCain - just making a point here)? Yeah, what a JERK!!! No WONDER Obama did so poorly! Harrumph!!
Never mind that in this Forum, ONCE AGAIN, Obama was throwing people under the bus (fleet) left and right. How about the issue of when a fetus is viable? Obama passed on that one in a heartbeat, with his “that’s above my pay grade” comment. Because there is no WAY he could have anticipated THAT question coming from a minister. In his church. In a “forum” designed to question the candidates. Heckfire, who could have seen THAT question coming???? NARAL? Planned Parenthood?? Got anything to say NOW???
Or how about throwing gay marriage under the bus - again. I mean, really - in a state that sanctions gay marriage, on the same evening that two of America’s most famous lesbians are getting married, he denigrates it, but magnanimously suggests he would be willing to extend civil rights to us. Why thank ya so MUCH, Senator Obama, but they are not YOURS to CONFER (read a whole bunch of expletives right about there).
Oh, but wait - Obama does have SOMEONE who thinks that he did a SWELL job at this event on Sat. night. Yes, Sally Quinn of the Washington Post, in her piece, “Worlds Apart,” essentially claimed that while she wants to live in McCain’s world, that she thought Obama did a good job. And it wasn’t a debate, dammit! She actually said, “There was not a winner or a loser.” Um, yeah, Sally, there really was. And it was McCain. The one who reminded you of your father in your recurring dream of him flying in with a winged horse’s body to save you from an earthquake (I am NOT making this up, people - I swear, she really SAID this! Click on the link - you’ll see!!!!). He was the winner because he was able to talk coherently, succinctly, and knowledgeably. Obama? Not so much. And so what did he do? Attacked McCain as soon as it was over. Gee - who could have seen THAT coming??
Well I can tell you someone who could have seen all of this coming, the attack on McCain as soon as the cameras were off of their big hug. Oh, yes - the person who has seen him for who he is - the sorest loser on the face of the planet. Hell, I have seen athletes in the Olympics who have trained for years and years and YEARS handle defeat with a TON more grace than Obama can even imagine. Yes, that would be Hilary Clinton. Here she is speaking to her supporters after a debate in which she, once again, schooled Obama:
Yes, no doubt she could have warned McCain, as this article shows, Clinton: Obama Going Negative After Bad Debate:
Her explanation for Obama’s recent negativity? A poor performance in last week’s debate. “It’s no wonder that my opponent has been so negative these last few days of the campaign. Because I think you saw a big difference between us,” she said. “It’s really a choice of leadership: I’m offering leadership you can count on. You know where I stand.”
Well, there is no doubt about that. She said what she meant, and meant what she said:
“While my opponent says one thing and his campaign does another, you can count on me to tell you where I stand, and you can count on me to tell you very specifically the solutions that I offer for America,” she said.
While the final quote has to do with a Clinton ad that was about to come out, I think the content sums up the issues surrounding Obama PERFECTLY:
At the same time, the Clinton campaign announced a brand new :30 second ad in PA making the same argument. “He couldn’t answer tough questions in the debate. So Barack Obama is making false charges against Hillary’s health care plan,” says the narrator. “There are more and more questions about Barack Obama. Instead of attacking, maybe he should answer them.
(Italics mine.) Amen. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Yes, maybe he SHOULD answer the questions about him (passport? birth certificate??? Citizenship????), and actually tell the TRUTH for once. Now THAT would be a Change (not sure I could believe it though, but hey - I’m willing to give it a shot!). Frankly, we deserve nothing less!
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Obama is just a whining liar who schmoozes his way through life, and has to resort to vote stealing to put himself over the top in the primary.
Just catching up. Didn’t see this anywhere. Sigh. Well, we shall see huh?
Clinton Is VP Favorite Among Delegates
CBS Poll: 28 Percent Of Delegates To Democratic Convention Want N.Y. Senator In Number Two Slot
~snip~ (highlights mine)
(CBS) Senator Hillary Clinton is by far the favorite choice for the number two spot on the Democratic ticket, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll of delegates to the Democratic convention. When asked who they would like Barack Obama to select, 28 percent volunteer her as their top choice for Vice Presidential nominee.
Six percent volunteer Delaware Senator Joe Biden, and four percent mention two other unsuccessful Democratic candidates: New Mexico Governor Bill (traitor) Richardson and former North Carolina Senator John (shame on U) Edwards. [Most of the interviews for this poll were conducted before Edwards admitted to having an extramarital affair.] Another 4 percent volunteer Indiana Senator Evan Bayh.
I definitely think he’ll choose Hillary as VP. If he doesn’t, then he doesn’t want to win…….I believe this is one reason they bumped her from Prime Time on Tuesday and gave Bill prime time on Wed.(VP night). There’s no other explanation for that. It’s political suicide if he does not choose her. Just my opinion……we’ll see…..
I don’t think that’ll happen. Obama is too petty for that. We’ve seen how he and his campaign has treated those who stood by Hillary and were willing to support Obama when she suspended her campaign. He takes things so personally I can’t see him “forgiving” her and choose her as vp. And let’s not forget Nancy Pelosi who has constantly said Hillary won’t be picked.
Obama has declared to be the president a long time ago, now he’ll just choose whoever he wants to hang around in the white house with. In their minds they’ve won, they don’t need mean Hillary.
I don’t think Hillary would accept it even if it were to be offered. She wants to be president, nit vice-president. And the best shot she has at being president is seeing McCain elected in 2008 so that she can run again in 2012.
he isn’t choosing Hillary. Get over it. He is too narcissistic to ever allow hillary on the ticket.
And frankly it would look just like the badge with an upside down flag…an upside down ticket.
WHy would you put the child in the driver seat and the adult in the backseat?
Obutthead is going to run his little American Idol Never gonna Give you Up fantasy all the way through to election day.
Then when he loses he will be clear and vetted and ready to run for International World Idol.
I wish I could be convinced. Right now, I’m not too sure. I think he’s desperate and the reason it’s taking so long to announce is because they’re watching the polls.
Believe me, I don’t want her anywhere near that ticket. But I think the Messiah is running scared and backed into a corner. He doesn’t want her, but he may not have a choice.
But Hillary.
SAY NO!!!!!
Jeremiah GD AmeriKKKa-
There’s nothing to get over, sweetie…..I’m just sayin’ she’s the one he’ll choose if he wants to win…unless she has turned him down, already.
NO, NO, No VP for HRC, she can not be associated with BO. And, I hope she will take a well deserved vacation instead of stumping for him while he body surfs.
Let her go back to the Senate and do her job. Being on the trail will only hurt her image. Regardless of what she does, it will be her fault when he loses.
I agree—–But, I just think he’ll choose her, though…..
I’ve been quoted saying (years ago) that we needed to find our own DICK CHENEY
Someone that would ensure the PRETZELDENT would never be “replaced” with the VP because the VP would be HELLA WORSE!!
And at that time I even said Hillary would be a great VP because so many hated her at the time they would never try impeaching the Prez or offing him (being worse of course)
if this comes true I suppose I was not alone in those thoughts
Liars can not deal with making up the answers and pleased the listeners simultenously. BARRY IS A CHARLATAN.
PLEASE CONTACT ALL HILLARY’S PLEGED DELEGATES IN YOUR STATE. Make sure they are voting for Hillary in the convention. Voters in your district have voted for them to represent the people at your district.
Here is the link for all the Certified Delegates By State :
http://www.demconvention.com/certified-delegates-ec/
All her delegates in Illinois are voting for her and that includes Alice Palmer.
And that’s why he cannot close the deal.
He’s up by only 8, for heaven’s sake, in NY. A commenter at Fark said that in NY state, Republicans are outnumbered like hot girls at a Star Trek convention.
OT–A priceless typo (?) from Nedra Pickler of AP. Read the 2nd line carefully—
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gxVW-aUPQsPkU0JKEleSPNCyxSsAD92L2HJ80
And look at the Politico Swing State map this morning:
http://www.politico.com/convention/swingstate.html
So why are the Dems nominating Obama?
RE: The swing state map. I have been saying all along that Obama 08 = McGovern 72 - MA all for months. We are slowly getting there. I only wish the delegates and the supers would wake up and set this right.
I know that map is driving those Politico nuts crazy. Ok Obama only has 7 states that are solid blue,and two his home states-not good.I wonder if McCain is being coached by Karl Rove now. He really has improved his game. Now he’s going to annouce his VP after the dems convetion. This will erase Obama’s bounce.
Wow, Katmandu - thanks!
As for Nedra, well, her “reporting” has seemed pretty biased to me, so I am not sure that WAS a typo!!
(I hasten to add that I do NOT like Lieberman - I think he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.)
Bwahahahahaha!! If McCain picks the “Vice Presidential Prick” then NY and FL are in play…you know it!
And a LOT of blue states are “competitive” too.
Even though a lot of Dems grind their teeth at Holy Joe, he is the guy who enabled the Senate Democratic Majority (when he didn’t HAVE to). He’s acceptable to the crazy evangelicals because they think that Israel, and all those “Jooooooooooooooooz” have a role in their salvation, as though they are spear carriers in the Wagnerian opera about their ascent into heaven, or something.
And for the non-crazy, non-evangelical, moderate-to-conservative Democrat, why, Holy Joe is…eh, OK. After all, Gore picked him, so that’s a point in his favor. He’s an observant Jew, but not “too-too,” in that he doesn’t make people uncomfortable by blaring on about it all the live long day. He’s already answered the many questions about how he’d resolve his faith and his job (he’d use the car on the Sabbath in an emergency, with no hesistation, e.g.), so no need to go over that territory again.
I think Joe is angling for SECDEF, myself, though. I’d personally, even though I was ticked at him for crapping on the Dems by refusing to give up “his” Senate seat and running independently, feel better about McCain with him on the ticket. Of course, McCain’s not looking to please me–I could just as easily protest-vote for Cynthia McKinney, after all!
As much as I’d like to see it, McCain won’t/can’t pick Lieberman. The right wing of the GOP would go postal. Were McCain 12 points behind in the polls and needed a “Hail Mary” to catch up, then Lieberman might be viable. But he’s right on Obama’s heels, he’s got the momentum, and so the one thing he needs to do with his VP pick is play it safe and pick someone who a) can help him win a swing state or two, and b) offsets his biggest perceived weakness, which is the economy. Mitt Romney would be the best choice, IMHO.
Please, not Mit, please God. I loathe that man. Something about him just irks my ovaries. Ridge, I could live with. Lieberman needs to just go far, far away…I was kinda’ hoping for a female VP just to drive a stake through the heart of Barky’s campaign.
I predicted after Super Tuesday, that 0bama could lose NY State. People thought I was crazy.
Omigosh, my lying eyes.
I got hung up for a second on the “pro-abortion” term and then it stuck out like a needle in a haystack! ouch!
Typo, I wonder.
GOD Rev. Amy. That was heavenly.
My heart hurts for all of the couples who love each other and were devastated when Oblowme so easily blew them off.
And shit on their hopes for change.
And this is Oblowme’s new politics?
What- uniting people under the bus for McCain?
Yes, there is a large contingency under the bus. Sadly, that is the only place that they are welcome under O.
Obama is so much like Bush- an addict and a puppet, very poor leadersihp qualities.
One of my biggest concerns is the people these Puppets put in positions in the WH who really pull the strings. With Bush he had Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove , Alito, and well too many people with their own agendas, most not reflective of the American people and we saw what they brought us.
With that in mind one must consider the puppet string pullers of Obama who will be reflecting their agendas on the ‘blank slate’ empty suit, flip flopper, addict Obama. Look beyond Obama, he’s just the addicted puppet.
He may or may not still be using, but he has the poor moral failure- He told us that- of seeking relief with damaging substances. We don’t need another ‘party’ man in the White House.
Rev. Rick Warren Says Obama Campaign Claim Is “Bogus”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGpD6aOKeA&feature=related
ALSO, I watched the whole Hannity and Colmes interview with Rick Warren last night and several interesting things were mentioned on the show:
1. Rick Warren said there wasn’t any cheating (probably NOT happy with the Obama campaign for calling him a liar and a cheat! Way to go, guys!)
2. Rick Warren discussed black liberation theology at Obama’s old church. He stated that it is even more radical than regular liberation theology which originated in S. or C. America. Rick Warren said it is MARXIST.
3. There was a segment on Obama apparently lying about ultimately supporting a move to allow failed aborted babies to suffer and die without medical help. And the conservatives (and many others) are hopping angry that he is lying about his position on that. They were going nuts on the program.
4. At one point Hannity nearly yelled: Obama was not even in the U.S. SENATE to vote against the war! He wasn’t even there! (LOL)
5. They also discussed that Obama’s answer about crossing the aisle with McCain is ultimately false, because Obama opposed the bill in the end.
6. ALSO: Remember when Obama was asked about the Supreme Court Judges, and Obama discussed Clarence Thomas?? Hannity and their guest contributor (can’t remember name), pointed out something fascinating, Obama ALMOST said that Clarence Thomas didn’t have enough EXPERIENCE, but he caught himself!! Obama said I don’t think he had enough EX…and then he checked himself. LOOK: See when it happens at 29-30 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfblJvKXiP0
The guest claimed that if Obama finished that word “experience” he would have destroyed his candidacy!!!! Watch it. Youtube will no doubt have the Hannity interaction on this precise point in due time.
re # 6:
I found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKy5-AwdWDw
When we watched it, we mentally finished the “ex…” - experience word for Obama. Two of us looked at each other and said, ” He just committed political suicide!”
I wonder how many other viewers drew the same conclusion?
I’m glad Hannity and guest played that point up!
I’ve never been a fan of Hannity, until now.
Kat in your hat, thanks for the additional info. I bet Warren WAS mad at essentially being called a liar and a cheat!! THAT should go over well with the community to whom Obama was pandering!
As for the abotion issue, SusanUnPC had an EXCELLENT piece here yesterday on that very subject:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/18/finally-personal-vindication-but-a-major-new-problem-for-the-democratic-party/
Unbelievable at C. Thomas. He essentially called him stupid, to boot.
Thanks for the links and the info - very helpful!! Now, if only those SDs will pay attention!!
OH, and yes yes,
7. Rick Warren said he told Obama one of the questions beforehand, and he was going to tell McCain but he wasn’t there, so Obama had the upper-hand going in.
The question Obama knew about before hand was the one on helping orphans world wide.
See, McCain was late, but not by much, he was in his motorcade and upon arrival he was placed in a room away from the stage where he couldn’t hear anything.
I just want to say: EVEN if McCain did know anything ahead of time, it doesn’t change Obama’s performance, you see, because it is Obama’s tone, his mood, and his stammering “present” (yes, no, maybe, me dunno) answers that did not go over well.
Above his pay grade? The most important people to influence his administration would be his wife and grandma? His “administration,” really?? Plus all the lies…gimme a break.
Also, McCain faced the crowd, had difintive answers, and he told stories, c’mon. He sounded like a very patriotic…president.
Now I am not at all saying that I agree with everything McCain is for, (no, no) but like we have all been saying: at least he is experienced and loves the USA.
EXCELLENT point, Kat!! And wow that Obama had an advantage. But I agree - even if each one of them DID know all of the questions, it doesn’t change how they ANSWERED them! Well said!
Even if you accept the nonsense about McCain hearing the questions beforehand, McCain having that “advantage” doesn’t forgive or even explain Obama’s lousy performance.
This is why I don’t understand how the 0bama campaign could be stupid enough to whine and call McCain a cheater.
Let’s say for the sake of argument he did hear some of 0bama’s answers. What would he get from those inarticulate remarks. That’s like cheating off the test paper of the stupidest student in class.
I almost spilled my drink when I heard him state what I thought I had heard during the “conversation.” I understand that Obots are refusing to discuss this event as anything but a conversation. It is obvious that O was thinking on the spot. Too bad he saved it. Wonder what Thomas thinks? Warren and Evangelicals can meet up with those under the bus. I thought Rev Wright was not brought up because he probably prepared a statement for that one.
4. At one point Hannity nearly yelled: Obama was not even in the U.S. SENATE to vote against the war! He wasn’t even there! (LOL)
That makes me CRAZY too!! Bill nailed it as a “fairy tale” early on, and he based his entire candidacy (superior judgment) on it. It’s preposterous that he has gotten this far based on this lie. Oh, and thanks to the DNC, the media, the Bot Army, and Wall St. $$
Kat, regarding liberation theology: it is not a “Marxist” theology, it is a very mainstream theology. In the Catholic church (where Obama began his community organizing), it became part of church doctrine after Vatican II and, essentially, puts forth the belief that Christians should follow in the footsteps of Jesus and work for/with the poor, in this way people become close to Christ and, essentially, continue His work.
While it has been especially popular in Latin America among Jesuit priests and nuns, many of whom have been murdered for their work with the poor, it is certainly not confined to Latin America. It is only called “Marxist” by people who see it as a threat to the power structure of the traditional church, to governement (as in El Salvador), or the reign of the wealthy in general.
People who speak against liberation theology only demonstrate that they are traditionalists who are threatened by grassroots movement within religion and would do well to remember that Christ was the one who called on people of faith to serve the poor, not to serve themselves.
Sorry for replying to my own post but I should have used the word “conservatives” and not “traditionalists” in my reply to Kat regarding Liberation Theology.
Dig deeper. The marxist -muslim connections to this brand of black theology come out of the islands and the prisons.
Better to read James H. Cone, if you can stand it, or bone up on Frank Marshall Davis. Those two are Obama’s idols.
Then you will see the unholy branch of black theology that Rev. Wright adheres to.
NO,no,no. This brand of black theology is all about racial power over another race. The black version of the KKK, if you will.
If there is such a thing as the “Whitey tape”, what part will be about serving others and making the world a better place?
What you describe is NOT what Jeremiah Wright was preaching all those years, though.
What they are teaching at TUCC is not what those nuns and priests were teaching the peasants in South America–not even close.
It’s not just the “Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers” philosophy…oh no, no, No, No, NO!
I suggest you mosey on over to the Trinity United Church of Christ website and have a gander at what they believe, particularly with regard to the “mother land” and their focus and slant. It’s called “BLACK Liberation Theology” for a reason. There’s a receiving LINE as to who gets served the everlasting love of JEEEEESUS, and God-Damn, cracker, Ridin’ Dirty Whitey is at the back of it. Because of course, even though Jesus was from Palestine and probably looked like Yassir Arafat, he was “black” doncha know…
They didn’t give Louis Farrakhan the Trinity Lifetime Achievement Award for shits and giggles, either–there is a philosophical framework to their worldview that says “ME FIRST.” There’s a healthy does of excoration, and a good dollop of REVENGE in the church teachings, too. It may be a ploy to put “pout-raged” asses in the seats with wallets opened wide so the institution can buy million dollar homes for their preachers when they retire, but it’s hardly “Christ-like,” the bullshit they spout.
The teachings of their former pastor also prefer to blame outside forces for every woe, eschewing personal responsibility in many instances.
I found the “theology” to be every bit as whiney and victim-based as the candidate who sat in that church listening to that bullshit for twenty years.
And personally, I don’t think it is an accident that Jeremiah “God Damned” Wright went to the Press Club and Bill Moyers’ program, and made an ass and a spectacle of himself. See–he WANTS Obama to lose…because his “business” is the EXPLOITATION and exaltation of a permanent state of black victimhood…and business is good. It won’t be so hot if Obama gets elected, though…his whole franchise will be told “Quit your bitching–your guy is the Prez, what more do you want?”
It’s hard to continue to play the victim when the King is from your tribe. At that point, you’ve got to take personal responsibility. Wright and his successor Otis Moss would have to change their schtick…and they seem to prefer blaming “the man” for all their woes.
Trinity is a mainstream Protestant church with both black and white parishoners, there is nothing radical about them.
If homilies or sermons with the same basic message had been given by a white, Catholic priest (or a Protestant, take your pick) the situation would have been looked at very differently.
Let’s take the “chickens have come home to roost” statement (which was originally said by a white, American Diplomat, BTW). If a white priest had stood up in front of his congregation and, in a calm and quiet voice, had given his homily about how we have to conduct our foreign policy with kindness and compassion not only beause we have a moral obligation to do so but because, if we don’t, we give extremists an excuse to target us. If he had said that the fact that our government has often conducted its foreign policy with a brutality that wounds people in their bodies and souls and that, sometimes, there will be people who will use that wounding as an excuse for their hate, people would not be accusing that priest of treason and hatred. Democrats would be standing up and saying that he is speaking the truth, that our foreign policy decisions have come back to bite us in the ass time and again. But the fact that it was an “angry” black man preaching those things scared the crap out of people. That is racism.
If I may, there IS a difference between Black Liberation theology and the liberation theology of which you speak. Jim Cone himself said BLT is like bringing together the “Christianity of MLK and the emphasis on blackness from Malcolm X.” This is a good article in the NY Times, from which that quote came: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/weekinreview/04powell.html?ex=1367640000&en=2b5958f5cda4be2c&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
From an NPR article is this quote abt BLT from Cone: “to teach people how to be both unapologetically black and Christian at the same time.” (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89236116)
It is more complicated than two quotes can imply, but there are some very real differences between it and other liberation theologies.
That being said, you are quite right that the liberation theology associated with Latin America is one that stands with the poor and fights for them. Both the RC and Episciopal churches engage in more Liberation theology in Latin America. It can be a pretty stark contrast to mainstream theology here.
Btw, Cone was one of my professors at Union.
I understand what you are stating here. What I do not understand is why white people are so threatened by the idea of black empowerment.
I grew up in a predominately black neighborhood and was a minority at my high school (I’m white). Many of my closest friends were African-Americans who believed very strongly in black liberation theology and/or black empowerment (including AA Muslims for whom, granted, it wasn’t “liberation theology” but the Muslim belief that you must be charitable, give to people who have less than you, etc). I never got hate from them, they never looked down on me because I was white, and our ideas of a just society did not differ at all. When we had differences we discussed them and learned from each other.
Black liberation theology, black empowerment, is self-empowering. I strongly believe that anyone who is threatened by black liberation theology/empowerment either does not understand it or has some serious issues about race that they need to examine.
then Rick Warren is a liar like everyone else beCAUSE I sat there and watched him say OBAMA did WELL at the debate.
He said BOTH men did WELL!
I knew he was lying when he said it too! pft.
Barack Obama has never … NEVER …. been willing to go against the far left wing of the Democratic Party on any issue of substance. All his grandiose talk about “reaching across the aisle” is sheer puffery. John McCain is the one who has, repeatedly, reached across the aisle to compromise with Democrats and, in doing so, drawn the considerable ire of the Rush Limbaughs of the world. But he did it because it was the right thing to do.
Obama = Talks The Talk
McCain = Walks The Walk
thanks for the recap! I’m so glad to hear that FOX is calling Barry on the carpet for his bs. I’m so tired of him lying and lying and the MSM are saying it’s a gaffe. His parents meeting in Selma…a LIE. His uncle liberating Auschwitz…A LIE. His saying he’s not a Muslim…a LIE! And I’m supposed to vote for this pathological liar because of party unity? I just want to see this loser go down in flames come November.
Some things that bothered me about the fox report last night:
over 400 people interviewed at columbia did not remember backtrack barack.
I went to 13 different schools in 12 years but if someone I went to school with was a candidate for president I would remember them. That is human nature.
When he talked about the last time he saw his father he said fantasy was better then reality.
From what I see he fantasises everything in his life.
That could get very dangerous.
When is former roommate was down and out in the street another friend helped him, not backtrack barack. when has he ever done anything for someone without a payback?
The more we see of him the less substance there is to him.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
This is stunning to me too. The man is running for POTUS and there’s not one former classmate that remembers 0bama.
Columbia has a very active Black Alumni Association and he’s not a part of that. I just find it more than strange that he did not connect to other students at Columbia.
And yes, that says something about who he is.
I heard pundits on Sunday talking about how confident the McCain campaign now is. (You can see this it his bearing, too.) I have always noticed that when a candidate is down, especially when the media is picking them apart, they almost always look very defensive - surprise! The media blames them for being bad candidates like they did with Gore, but I would be willing to bet that had the media been fair, Gore would have been a much different candidate. When you are designated as the uncook kid by the media you are going to get hit no matter what you do, which makes you very self-conscious about everything you say, do - or even wear. The fact that both Clintons can withstand a vicious onslaught with their dignity intact is extremely impressive.
Obama is still getting good press so he can get away with these kinds of stumbles, but the tide may be turning, at least a little. I would like to see just how he handles negative treatment by the media. I think it would show a lot about his ability to withstand the pressure of the presidency. I cannot believe that he will continue to be treated with kid gloves if he is elected and I doubt that he can hole up to the pressure. He might wind up talking to the portraits of the presidents in the White House like Tricky Dick did towards the end.
OT. PLEASE everyone stop using John Corsi’s book to attack Obama. The man is slime. He may have some facts right, but anyone who was willing to lie about a soldier’s bravery in war should be shunned.
From Media Matters:
Corsi on Senator “FAT HOG” Clinton: “Anybody ask why HELLary couldn’t keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?”
Not to mention he actually has argued that OIL IS NOT A FOSSIL FUEL!! This guy should is the scum of the earth and no one should ever give him any credence.
it’s too bad Corsi is who he is. Obots have a point when they remind of how Corsi hurt Kerry.
thanks for inserting the slimeball references about HRC, i might’ve been tempted to buy, but not now.
Kerry, I did vote for him and his lying running mate. But it is true that Kerry on the steps of the capitol. “threw his medal of honors away” It was shameful to watch that video clip. I know we all m,ake mistakes-but that was downright SHAMEFUL!
no he threw someone ELSES medals in a make shift trash thingy
didn’t even throw his own
too bad Corsi is who he is.
Even so, purchasing the book keeps it on the best seller list which helps initiate dialogue on Obama in the media.
I thought that a lot of solders were pissed off because they believed Kerry was the one who went to Congress and denigrated their service to our country.
sorry - soldiers
Corsi smeared a decorated Vietnam War veteran with excrement so that an AWOL frat boy and his entourage of chicken-hawks could continue a pointless war they’d built on lies. Corsi pocketed a wad for twisting the truth, and Bush’s corporate supporters continued to rake in the war profits. ($547 billion borrowed in the names of you and your kids. Whose pockets do you think that’s gone into? No wonder they consider Iraq worth continuing.)
Corsi slimed the Clintons repeatedly. He slimed Hillary personally, in an effort to ruin her shot at the White House. Corsi is part of the reason Obama is the presumptive nominee.
Now he’s turned his full attentions to Obama, and the money is rolling in again. The guy is a political porographer.
I notice that Obama has lately taken to wearing SUITS in Donna Brazille-like “autumn colors.” Remember when that beastly, traitorous woman put poor Al Gore in those newfangled colors? The browns, and greens, and so forth? And then she had him photographed for Rolling Stone, with his great big schlong front-and-center, in such profound relief in a pair of khaki slacks that it looked like he had a ginormous Polska Kielbasa stuffed in his BVDs! That picture guaranteed no one was talking about global warming THAT week!
If Al had stuck to the dark suit, white shirt, and red tie, he’d probably be finishing up his second term, and 9/11 would just be the day before September 12. All of Brazille’s nefarious and ill-thought-out “tweaking” made the guy look weak–and he was anything but.
Then, later, we find out old Donna is good pals with Karl Rove…. (Oooooooooh, and it makes me wonder….)
If you tried to write this scenario substituting fictional names, as a novel, no one would find it believable…!
Last night On Fox - Hannity- Rick Warren, who held the Forum, said there is absolutely NO WAY that McCain was able to hear the questions that were being asked. Absolute - NO WAY! He also made a comment that if you don’t know who you will vite for after watching that - you never will. He refered to McCain as “COMMANDER”
I caught that, too. Warren wouldn’t say who he was voting for even though he said he knows who he is voting for and used the word commander for McCain. Speaks volumes.
Nice post!
As far as Sally “Golddigger” Quinn, note that 16 years ago, Hillary snubbed a Sally Quinn luncheon invite and Quinn has never, ever, forgiven Clinton. (She recently wrote a nasty piece of sleaze for the WaPo purporting advising Clinton to go to convent or something). Hillary, btw, had very good reason to avoid the Quinn monster, who began bashing Bill the minute he took office and is a generally nasty, spiteful piece of work.
Exactly - Quinn has been after the Clintons since Day 1!! So, no surprise that she is continuing in that vein - this one was just particularly, um, odd.
Great post Rev, Amy—I think Sally’s plastic surgeries have taken their toll…..Too much nip and not enough tuck, or vice versa!
Sally ladies who lunch Quinn is leader of the DC girls club - another Queen Bee. She’s put into play the Clinton Hayseed narrative. This first set the DC media elite against the Clinton’s and rest fell in line. Petty and vicious, just like their ‘fresh’ boy toy *61.
Either Sally or Andrea said (I forget) that Hillary galls the media bec. she ‘always has the right answer; you can’t rattle her’ - no GOTCHA with a Clinton, only the ones they fabricate.
The naysayers, wet blankets in the press are all closet politicians - think: Matthews.
In your dreams, people!!!
Sally Quinn was the Rielle Hunter of her day, only without the baby, and fewer dark roots, no doubt due to a more reliable hairdresser. She’s disgusting.
She was one of those vamping, flirting, husband-stealing bitches (please do pardon my use of the B word, I normally eschew it, but the shoe fits like Cinderella’s slipper in her case) who makes all women, unfairly, look bad.
When you have some tarty, dyed-blonde fool prancing around your newsroom sans brassiere in a silk shirt, oogling and jiggling for “the boss-man,” it breeds resentment in the workforce (i.e. those who WORK) and, particularly during the era when she was pulling that crap, made it DOUBLY tough for women, who were struggling to break glass ceilings and weren’t even close to pay equity, as the men figured that Slutty Sally was representative of her gender, when she wasn’t at all.
She was, and is, top rank on the Skank scale, though–and manages to stay in the upper echelons of that scale for her age bracket. She apparently doesn’t quite understand that the “Former Whore (for all intents and purposes) Turned Washington Hostess” label isn’t “cool” anymore–and she’s no Pamela Harriman, in any event.
What she has done with her life is to behave in a manner that is pathetic and parasitic, and that sums her up pretty handily. What a legacy…not.
Not surprising that she’d diss Clinton, though–Hillary didn’t run around sucking an old man’s HooYah to advance herself in a short-lived “career” as a “newsGIRL,” nor did she set herself up with a wealthy sugardaddy who thought with the little head….no, Clinton went to law school and worked for a living.
Now, Hillary married a guy who was “hard to keep on the porch.” That’s no secret. It’s no secret that the Big Dawg enjoys turning on the charm, too–to some, but apparently not all. I still think Quinn’s main objection to Bill Clinton, and by extension, his wife, is that Bill didn’t respond to her dried-up, hackneyed, desperate vamping and flirting. I’m guessing she turned it on like a searchlight in a swamp looking for a missing toddler, and didn’t get the desired result. It probably killed her that her raddled cheerleader looks impressed the President less than, oh, say, Barbra Streisand’s rather ethnic, lived-in and less-botoxed visage…but then, Barbra has a talent–she can sing.
I think Sally needs to sit her sagging ass down and shut the hell up. It’s unseemly, at her age, to be peddling that thing all over town. She looks like what she is–a tired old FOOL.
Clinton Fan -
Note to self: don’t piss off Clinton Fan.
Wow! That was scary good.
Sally sounds like Maureen Dowd’s twin sister.
Good call roseeriter!
Maureen Dowdy/Cousin It wigs should be out in time for Halloween.
Does she think the hair hides the blow jobs?
Clinton Fan—That was a wonderfully written history lesson about Skank Sally! Thank you!
Oooh Clinton Fan,
Put it out there! I’m tired of these little sordid secrets that everyone politely is tight-lipped about.
The best part is that Sally Quinn is now OLD. That’s the best revenge for women like her.(I’d rather use the B-word, but I’ll refrain from that in this public forum.)
Unfortunately, there are women who get by on this. But in the end, age gets the last laugh.
Wonderful!!!
And BernieO is right. Our dislike of Obama should not lead us to abandon all of our rational faculties (leave that to the Obamadroids). Corsi is a lying scuzz.
The latest excuse for his poor performance?
“Poor widdle baby had a COOOLD…he was SIIIICK. THAT’s why he didn’t do well at the forum!! Yeah, that’s the ticket!!”
It’s pathetic, and it’s true. The “McCain CHEEEEEATED!” theme is going over like a lead balloon, so they’ve switched gears to the “He wasn’t FEEEEELING well” excuse.
Warren was mistaken, though, in the title he gave McCain–IIRC, McCain retired as a Navy Captain, one paygrade above Commander. As I remember, he was a LCDR (0-4) when he got shot down, was promoted while in captivity, and went on to do two tours after his release from Hanoi and subsequent retirement. His tour at the Office of Legislative Affairs no doubt piqued his interest in, and familiarity with, doings on the Hill and in obtaining a seat in Congress.
Does that mean he’s had a cold for the past year, because he ALWAYS performs like this. Remember the “he’s really really tired” meme during the primaries to excuse all his mistakes and word fogs? These justifiers are pathetic.
fif, it’s funny as hell. They continue to make excuses for him, like … well, CULTISTS.
If he were some idiot leading a crew of fools in the desert to find the spaceship that was going to take them all to The Planet Nebulon, where they’d be young and live forever, they’d be the ones saying to the news interviewer, “Oh well, it’s because the batteries in the GARMIN were dying, and the GPS didn’t work…the spaceship landed too far away! Don’t blame Our Messiah! The spaceship will be back, SOOON!!!”
They’re Nucking Futz, all of ‘em!
Funny, we never hear the supposedly “old” candidate offering excuses like “I’m just really, really tired” do we?
He always looks under the weather. Hillary was bright and vigorous at the end of the primary contests compared to Barry’s lackluster limping across the finish line.
And he and his campaign belittle John McCain for his age, yet McCain has more stamina than Barry.
Didn’t Baby Barry just come back from a relaxing vacation?
Pathetic.
You can only cry Wolf! so many times.
With the Olympics going on - esp. with the likes of Michael Phelps’ astounding victories and grace but also evident in every event win or lose - the Coke/Pepsi comparison is even easier to make.
A Pakistani friend of Oblowme’s from Occidental
(astoundingly no students remember him from Columbia)
who has bundled over $100K for Oblowme, works for Pepsi.
The McCain ad guy did say; however, that he would not make an ad about the white woman Oblowme lived with for a year while at Columbia.
Do you think it was his mother Stan?
But Oblowme did live with another Pakistani guy - who bundler guy tried to help (but not Oblowme):
This according to Oblowme: a “well-built” Pakistani coke user he lived with at Columbia started living on the streets and is now dead.
Why is this creepy mystery guy Oblowme going to get the DNC nomination?
This according to Oblowme: a “well-built” Pakistani coke user he lived with at Columbia started living on the streets and is now dead.
Another person unavailable to attest to the character of young Barry. Of course he lived with this heavy drug user, but we are to believe Obarry did not partake in that hobby beyond HS.
Also funny, in the Fox news documentary about Obama the man and two others were identified as friends of Barry’s but all three refused to be interviewed or leave comment.
“Well-built”?, what straight guy describes a former male roommate as “well-built”? Athletic, maybe, fit, perhaps, but “well-built”. I’m trying to imagine any males I know using that term about another man and all the ones that come to mind are my male girlfriends.
I think it was a misprint.
WORM - What Obama Really Meant was Well-Hung.
They might want to think twice about the ‘cold’ excuse.
People will start demanding those medical records.
While Precious keeps acting like an ass, we are told that Hillary should bring a casserole and smile to the convention….GRRRRRR!
Re: Casserole-gate…
So, Now Hillary Should “Bring a Casserole” to the Convention???
http://tinyurl.com/6qwyf6
http://insightanaltyical.wordpress.com
excerpt:
“Ok, so what kind of casserole should she bring? Isn’t that the crucial question we should be asking now??
Should it be the ever-popular cream of mushroom soup/tuna casserole? Perhaps the classic green bean/cream of mushroom side dish?? Something with a little leftover turkey in it, perhaps?? Should she wear a pink, frilly apron when she delivers it? Or perhaps she should serve it in stilletos and a topless French maid’s outfit?
Shoot, Hillary doesn’t like baking cookies, and you expect her to bring a casserole??? How about bringing her brain along as an appetizer??”
that is just plain disgusting!!!
I like those casseroles with molten cheese as a primary ingredient–you pitch one of those at your opponent, and he MELTS from the heat.
After all, he needs to get out of the kitchen, because he never could stand that heat!
Just throw a bucket of water on BHO and watch him melt.
Maybe a big Shephards Pie, hand it obama so he can share it with his sheeple.
Nothing wrong with the woman’s touch. Hillary has a great sense of humor which I adore.
I’d maybe bring a casserole with some rat poisen in it, but Hillary has much more class than me!
I was thinking ground glass and shaved bamboo shoots.
They add a little crunch to the dish.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
just keep telling yourself you have been in the US Senate longer than you have, sure, go on ahead, that is just peachy keen. No, really - go right ahead. No one will notice that you were not really there for that vote. Yikes. Scary.
The only problem is that people really DO believe he “voted against the war!” That’s the thing about propaganda that they learned in WWII and Bush effectively mastered: repeat something enough and it becomes the truth. I have had several people swear to me that “HE VOTED AGAINST THE WAR AND HRC VOTED FOR IT!” It’s stunning, but most people do not read politics on the internet–they get their information from the news, if at all. Obama’s campaign, since he has no real experience or substance, has relied on manipulating people’s impressions and emotions. The good news: something is just not right about this guy, and people’s instincts are picking that up. Yesterday I read a post by someone who talked to an 86 yr. old WWII vet who say, “They stole it from her–it’s just not right.” That explains his stagnant and sinking poll numbers, despite his lying, the media love fest, and his millions. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
And, the new Worst Lie spreading fast is:
Barack Obama won the popular vote.
To with Schuster interview last week with Murphy and Bower. He must’ve said this 5 times.
Now it’s being heard everywhere. Repeat after me: Barack Obama won the popular vote.
I called NBC on that one.
This needs to be countered: even Howard Dean acknowledged that Hillary won the popular vote.
It appears that BHO believes his own lies. That in itself makes him unfit for office.
Obama is at the teleprompter again right now - giving a speech, someone else wrote, to counteract his Rev. Warren debacle.
BTW - he talked about his poor childhood again. He said his father left when he was 2 and his poor grandfather raised him. Um… what happened to his stepfather? Apparently he doesn’t want to open that can of worms.
DF Hey, his gradpa threw him to his uncle, Frank Marshall Davis. A confirmed Marxist and twenty year mentor, who Soetoro refers to as Uncle Frank.
He is also supposely a bi-sexual. Davis directed Soetoro to Chicago.
Thank you Steve1.
The bi-sexual common thread throughout Oblowme’s history.
At 10, Oblowme “couldn’t get along in Indonesia” and had to be dumped off with Granny in a different country.
And his Marxist bi-sexual mentor Frank Marshall Davis from his prep H.S. days in paradise.
I love the bit in his book about him waking up in an alley his first night in NYC.
And “the well-built Pakistani guy who did coke” Oblowme lived with - who died on the streets.
And Oblowme’s 20 year buddy William Ayers - Mr. Bi himself.
And THE BEARD.
And the murdered gay choir guy and TUCC church member.
He’s a man of mystery, but he’s no James Bond.
Where are all of the Bond girls in his story?
Oblowme’s history has all of the villains, but none of the heroes.
And no girls.
Which explains how Michelle was an easy transition for appearnces..sorry couldn’t resist.
Grace Jones in a throw back to her BOnd Girl persona will play Michelle in the Life-time made for TV Life-Story.
And Pee Wee Herman will play Barry.
His “poor grandfather?” He didn’t mention that his grandmother was a bank executive huh?
His poor grandfather?
What about Typical White Granny? You know, she was one of only TWO FEMALE Bank Vice-Presidents in all of Hawaii?
I’m guessing she wasn’t “poor,” working in that job. I’ll bet she made enough to support all three of them–Gramps, herself and little Barry–even if Gramps didn’t have a job (and do we even know what he did for a living?).
I’m guessing she was a pretty powerful lady, too, strong-willed, determined, and she’d have HAD to have been pretty smart, as well…she’d have to be, to have that “men’s club” job in those days.
I’ll bet she told little Barry to eat his vegetables, not talk with his mouth full, and sit up straight, and the little shit has resented powerful women ever since.
We talk about this guy having “daddy” issues, and surely he does, but I’m thinking he has “Mommy/substitute Mommy” issues as well. Abandoned by both parents, and dumped on Gramps and Grandma…who had the NERVE to send him to a private school to get the best possible education! What…BASTARDS!!!
LOL…of course a child is going to have issues when their own mother dumps them off on their grandparents after their Dad dumps them. And the only counseling Obama has received is from “God Damn America” Rev. Wright? Please…Obama needs serious help. Who gives a shit if there is a “whitey” tape or not. I don’t! I want to know when the media and others are going to call Obama out about LYING and this crazy Black Lib Theology crap. You bots all need some friggin’ serious head exams.
Obama is a pathological liar. He needs treatment (I am serious) but he is just being enabled by enabled by the DNC, the MSM, etc. Pathological liars always come to a bad end - I just want him to bring our country down with him.
Rock on Rev. Amy!
I have seen Senator McCain in his forums…and yes, his speeches are not top grade, but in the Q and A he handles himself VERY well!
I have seen him respond firmly and politely to numbers of hecklers.
My recollections of the primaries…16 candidates of both parties…I eliminated 10 that I would NEVER vote for…the remaining 6…3 from each party.
If rejecting Obama makes me a racist, then rejecting Brownback makes me an agnostic! Give me a break!!!!
Rejecting Huckabee makes one an athiest.
atheist?
Words..just words.
And I don’t remember any of Yobama’s.
Rev. Warren’s forum showed me that Senator McCain has more leadership qualities than Senator Obama and Senator Obama has more educator qualities than Senator McCain. If I wanted to take an university class on the issue of abortion, national health care, illegal immigration, national security, etc., Senator Obama would be my choice for a professor. He’s very good at giving both sides of the issue, letting the listener wade through the information and come to their own conclusion. Depending on the conclusion the listener reaches, Obama is skilled at letting the listener erroneously think that’s his conclusion too.
When it comes to making a decision on where he stands on an issue and acting on it, like many intellectuals Senator Obama understands each side so well, he’s unable to decide which viewpoint or action is better. He’s caught between the pro and con lists and he waits for a popular opinion poll or the latest large donor to tell him which direction to go in. Senator Obama is a puppetmaster’s dream toy. Unlike President Bush who doesn’t have the intellectual ability to understand any issue fully and can end up being a wild card for a puppetmaster, Obama does understand every facet of an issue and with gentle persuasion and manipulation can be led by the puppetmaster.
Some educators can make excellent leaders. Senator Obama isn’t one of them. As an advisor to the Oval Office he would be an asset, as the man behind the desk making the decisions and implementing them, he’s a puppet ripe for picking. The question is, what happens when two or more puppetmasters with opposing agendas begin tugging on his strings? Does the Oval Office become as frozen with inaction as the Congress? Or will puppetmasters with less self-preservation start popping up in the Potomac?
McCain has his failings, starting with he opposes most of my political viewpoints. But, he’s not a puppet, no one pulls his strings. The man knows what he believes in, what he thinks is right and wrong. There’s no intellectual debate warring inside of him.
I like intellectuals and educators. I can hang with the best of them, I enjoy discussions with them. However, as a leader, I know where I stand, I know what I believe is right. I know if one is going to be a successful leader, one has to put the intellectual debate of issues aside and act based on what knows deep inside gained from experience, not the untried intellectual debate of issues.
I disagree with McCain on core issues for me, but if he’s running against Obama, McCain gets my vote. We need a leader in the Oval Office, not fodder for more puppetmasters.
He is the Grand Equivocator. He doesn’t even really do that well. He’s really a big snooze - Can catch any ol’ wonkish type on c-span or Charlie Rose any day of the week who does a better job, who makes more actual sense (using the same professorial style) than Obama.
This is what passes for thinking in this country?
The left needs to get a clue.
Put away your broad brush, please.
There are plenty of us who stood proudly on “the left” until the Obamabots overran the joint and shoved us, along with Senator Clinton, under the bus.
There are people who can think on the left, the right and in the center. Obama and his crew just aren’t doing too well on that score.
A good educator can teach both side of an issue while letting the students do their own thinking to draw their own conclusions. Senator Obama is an expert at this.
An example is his answer to Rev. Warren’s abortion question. Obama deflected it by saying he’s not a scientist or a theologian. A scientist would most likely say human rights can only be granted when a fetus is viable outside of the womb. A theologian would probably have the opposite view, if there is potential for life, human rights apply now even if that potential for life for the fetus is five months away. Depending on which viewpoint the listener has adopted, Obama’s answer left both sides thinking his view corresponds with their view even though he never did get around to telling us what he really thinks, he just touched on what each sides believes. If one looks at Obama’s response to the question objectively without letting their subjective viewpoints cloud their interpretation, his answer made absolutely no sense. What does his pay grade and preventing unwanted pregnancies have to do with anything, he was asked his view on granting fetuses human rights and he never answered the question.
If one takes away Obama’s shady political past, mysterious citizenship, lack of experience, etc., one of my two problems with him is if he does know where he stands on issues, he’s not telling us. Nor is he telling us how he’s going to reach the utopia he’s promising or what exactly that utopia is. All I know is he’s going to raise my taxes if I have the good fortune to make more than $250k in 2008. My second issue with him is he isn’t a leader. His actions so far indicate a follower who understands the issues but has no idea how to make a decision on his own and lead with it.
Senator Obama is a thinker, not a doer. Two types of people fail at leadership, thinkers who aren’t doers and doers who aren’t thinkers. We currently have the latter, we don’t need to swap him for the former. We need a leader who can think and do at the same time.
I have said this too: Obama should be a professor and/or a preacher. Those are his talents. He is not suited to being a statesman with it’s pressures and unexpected challenges. He is not strong enough within himself or decisive.
You’re correct fif, he hasn’t learned to draw on his experience to put intellectual debate aside, make a decision and lead with it, right or wrong.
President Clinton is an intellectual, Senators Clinton, McCain nor Obama come close to his intelligence. We’d probably have to go back to Thomas Jefferson to find his rival. President Clinton was also a doer, he learned to put aside both the intellectual debate and his ideological preferences to make, act and lead on decisions that overall were positive to the nation as a whole. Senator Clinton from my knowledge of her tends to be an intellectual with a strong sense of practicality. She draws on her experience to balance the intellectual debate with practicality, forms a decision and leads with it. Senator McCain appears to be a doer who has learned through experience that he has to be knowledgeable of the intellectual issues before making a decision and leading on it.
Senator Obama is well educated, but he’s stuck in the Ivory Tower. The few times he’s tried to put his the theories he’s learned into action, it’s failed because he’s attached himself to puppetmasters who were out for their own self-interest. There is no experience there to draw from to form decisions and lead with. Instead he gives the audience which ever theory or ideal he thinks will win them over and moves onto the next audience, never actually choosing a side or acting on anything.
Senator Obama tells people what they want to hear. When anyone shows his inconsistencies, they become those “folks” who aren’t telling the truth, probably because they’re racists.
The Oval Office isn’t a training ground for learning to lead.
One problem with that - most preachers and teachers have to write their OWN material!!! We don’t have a team putting our sermons together FOR us! (That’s snark, btw!)
Oh, and we do use real personal experience, as opposed to the imagined kind (”when I was a US Senator facing the Iraq Resolution…).
I am sorry. I am a professor and I take umbrage at being placed in the same class with Obama.
Obama makes my skin crawl. My daughter emailed me this video that some one made way last March. Where have we all been? We have to stop this pathetic man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfL_H7zg1QI
Thanks for vid, Dean.
On ABC News last night they said the Obama Campaign claimed they were “being too nice to McCain and were going to get tough.”
That image is hilarious: Obambi is going to take on the war hero. I’m sure McCain is shakin’ in his shoes.
Oh, you just KNOW those punks with their photoshop will go too far.
You know it.
They’ll dummy up some snarky pseudo-photos of McCain’s POW days, with “witty” taglines, and slap themselves on the back over their cleverness.
Of course, those kinds of things will get emailed round to the Greatest Generation, who aren’t so swift on doing fancy things with the computer, but enough of them have email down, and it will outrage them. And not just the old coots, either. Most people in their fifties and up are old enough to have been touched in some fashion by war–either that kid down the street (or that cousin or brother) who was killed in Vietnam…or Korea…or WW2, or who came back maimed, or psychologically brutalized.
It’s just NOT FUNNY. But you know they are gonna go there–they’ve got nowhere else to go.
I don’t understand how these idiots haven’t learned. On the one hand, they whine about bringing the troops home, on the other hand, they call the servicemembers brutes and murderers–it’s like no one taught them 20th Century History and what happened during the Vietnam War.
They have no problem expressing “poutrage” at the death of a Marine, and then excoriate another Marine who had the NERVE to kill people who were shooting at him.
Instead of aiming at people who MAKE policy, they blame those whose duty it is to be an instrument of policy, and who have no role in crafting it.
They’re going to make the key mistake of making fun of McCain’s time in Hanoi. I see it happening already. It’s all they’ve got left–they can’t really win on the “Ideas” front, because Obama keeps flipping and flopping so much, half the time he’s sort of on the same page as McCain, and half the time not.
I was opposed to the Vietnam War, and suffered through that period of time like many of us did, and was glad as hell that it ended at long last. I’m a “Hate the war, not the warrior” type, though. When people make fun of a guy who put his life on the line, was captured, was tortured, and who bears the scars of that torture even today, well…I can’t get behind that sort of snarky, immature and uninformed ridicule, even if I might disagree with the fellow on some matters on policy.
I find it deeply OFFENSIVE when people go after McCain like that. I don’t think I’m alone, either. I also think their making fun of his age is going to backfire, too. After all, age is something we have NO control over…these little “immortal” shits will find that out eventuallly, and judging by their sanctimony, I’m guessing it will be a hardass lesson, too!
When Obama spoke about his gut wrenching decision to oppose the war he said that he talked to experts about the probability of Iraq having WMD and the relations between the Shia and the Sunni. So we’re supposed to believe that Obama, while running for local office in Illinois, had foreign policy advisors.
I would love for someone to ask him specifically who the advisors were that he consulted. Then I would like to ask those advisors when they were consulted and what specifically they told him.
His story regarding this painful decision is a complete fabrication. The MSM hasn’t got the guts or the integrity to call him on it.
He talked to his grandmother and his wife.
But do they talk to each other?
Barry just finished a speech to the VFW. Some of you might not like what I am going to say but as a Viet Nam vet I am damn tired of hearing him talk about how we should give up. He has no idea of what it will mean to the disabled vets from this conflict..The vets he was talking to are the reason this man can get up and lie and lie some more..
Thanks for your service Joker. Obama is like Bush (and the neocons who engineered the war): they have never served themselves, so they have no gut level understanding of war and it’s complexities. It is not an intellectual exercise, it’s real time life and death. A respect for it can be gained by listening to and working with servicemen and women and veterans, but that takes time. I am still shocked that anyone would consider him prepared to be president with so little experience. Also, he shows a strange inability to empathize. He does not connect emotionally with people’s experience if it is different from his.
I am opposed to the war, but I do not want to up and leave Iraq, yet a second time before they are prepared for it. We made that mistake with Bush 1. I have always believed that Obama would pull us out too soon, inevitably getting us right back in there before long. I believe he will just prolong the war when all is said and done. I know McCain’s 00 year comment and I have always known he meant a presence after the war is done. I want to end the war, but in a sensible way. I have always knew that both Clinton and McCain would do so without putting the troops in harms way. I am not unhappy with your comment.
Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy:
REALLY great point to remind everyone that Obama, his camp, and entire campaign ATTACK others and BLAME others whenever he does poorly, and right now I can remember that after the PA debate Obama was brushing his shoulders off, flipping Hillary the bird, and simiulating a stab and twist the knife movement, and he went on and on. His supporters tried to get George Steph…and Charlie Gibson fired with petitions, etc…lunacy. Then the Obama camp got all their media to ATTACK ABC. What a bunch of nutjobs!
Hillary said that she heard of Obama “complaining” about the debate but that she was asked difficult questions as well, and if he thought that debate was difficult, then he ought to know that the pressures in the WH would be much greater. Basically, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Meanwhile, on gay marriage: Obama sounds like he has the same exact position as McCain. I don’t think he is truly a pro-gay rights democrat, and sorry, but I think it is partly due to his cultural background and religious background. Hillary would have answered the question, and I know how she stands on gay marriage, but, Hillary would NEVER allow her answer to go by without saying something meaningful and positve concerning the rights of gays, etc. I know she would not have been afraid to speak her mind in that forum.
Hillary is the REAL and TRUE democrat for ALL people!!!
Amen to that - and that is why the HRC endorsing HIM instead of HILLARY was insulting to the extreme. Just last year, teh HRC had HER come speak, and the Exec. Dir. said all kinds of glowing things abt her, and what a diehard champion she was for our community. Then THEY stab her in the back, too! I have written this here before, but that is when I ended my 20+ yrs of membership in the HRC.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/19/inverted-optics-dncc-wraps-obama-in-upside-down-flag/
Oops. Barry, the flag is supposed to be shown with the stars at the top.
katmandu!! I cannot believe they made that mistake!! ROFLMAO!!
Upside down flag is the offical sign of distress.
Here is a bit on the flag code:
http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm
Here is another article on the upside down flag that Obama is apparently CLOAKED in:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2008/08/18/dnc-convention-credentials-feature-upside-down-flag
OMG. lololol.
Yup, and here it is at wiki: Under “Techniques in flag display”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_terminology
Oh boy, if that is not a sign, what is? Obama’s campaign and impending bs nomination is in DISTRESS.
Here are full pictures of Obama’s Invesco Tickets with the upside down flag:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/sign-of-distress-obamas-invesco-tickets.html
lol…
GEE
Maybe the printer is a secret PUMA.
backtrack barack’s followers do not know or care enough about America to realize what the printer did.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
I had that upside down flag on my website for years during the beginning of this LIE of a RIGHT TURN (like a bully) into Iraq.
3,000 no 4,000 soldiers later
and 20,000 plus missing arms, legs, brains and hundreds of thousands of DEAD “mostly innocent” civillians LATER
it has come off and now I ROAR PUMA!
I’m doubly mad that the DEMS have screwed this up so royaly that they’ve made ME turn to the middle but I’m HELLA NOT gonna turn RIGHT into that morassssss!!
it’s not in my personality
I don’t know
I keep trying to meet up here in the middle but sometimes it about makes me CRAZY to hear some of the BS & lies from BOTH sides.
information is just not disseminating the way it should between the parties or too many are trying to KEEP IT THAT WAY and WHY???
jez - come on - we are ONE COUNTRY!! Let’s keep it honest.
my rant for today
peace
Dawnelle: I totally understand how you feel, but if Obama had the flag upside down to signify distress–and then there is the word “Change” like he is our savior.
It pisses me off!!!!
At first I thought it was just a funny gaffe, but I swear, i would not be surprised if they did that on purpose but then it backfired.
I don’t know if I’ll ever forgive the Dems in charge for pushing against the will of the people over their own self interests.
that DISTRESS flag needs to be hanging up in every capitol in the nation if BAMBI (and yes perhaps more of the same) or McCain is crowned!
NO offense but you on the right are trying to make McCain look like a saint too and personally I think he’s just a man. More patriotic than his opponent perhaps, I admit but still only a man.
and NOT HILLARY!!
I’m straight in the middle hard core democrat. Never was a liberal though. I don’t WANT McCain either. Hillary is light year’s better than McCain.
Obama is not even an option.
I’m just as pissed to be placed in this situation, especially since we had the best candidate I had ever seen in my life getting abused and ousted even though she won the votes of the people.
sorry {{Kat}} I didn’t mean YOU personally!
Thanks for commenting though. It helps me to debate the issues which is also why I come here.
This whole thing is such an emotional rollercoaster isn’t it?
One minute I’m sad and tearing up over some video and the next I’m raging angry over some LIE or FLIP-FLOP from the Right or Left.
I don’t feel truly comfortable in any Party right now. THAT really is distressing to me. I’m not ready to transplant OUT of dodge just yet! ya know? LOL
Might be a silent cry for help for some of his staffers
I Agree Joker..He made me sick watching him..He’s was trying sooo hard to come off tough to these Vets. All I had was contempt for his effort..Don’t think they bought it either with there weak Applause.He’ll NEVER represent Vets or me!
I’m still waiting for that Michelle Obama “whitey” bombshell. I’m not the only one who has put your credibility on the line for your insistence on some video showing Michelle Obama saying something about “whitey”. I’m also not the only one with a mouse-minded memory that will let you off the hook on that. Show us the money, or be forever marginalized as one of many white-noise echo-chamber bloggers of the lunatic fringe minority that the rest of us must tolerate to prove our liberal cred.
- Chucho
schoolyard insults in 3…2…1…
John McCain won my vote that night. I no way agree with all his policies but anyone can see the vast difference between Obama and McCain when it comes to experience and leadership. Obama screwed up every explaination of our views and didn’t stand up for the Pro-life of Gay community. Ellen should be pissed! He is a sore loser also.
I can see why they don’t put McCain on t.v. much… he would blow Obama away. That is why Obama won’t do a town hall meeting. I am still hoping for Hillary but after the convention and she is still behind Obama I will have to ignore her so I don’t get mad that she would support such a loser. I wish she would go back to the senate and stop working for Obama… she owes him nothing, he won’t even help with her debt. I am also almost sure that the woman gov. will be his VP. BARF!
The real democrats will not have a voice this fall… I will choose the one that can actually do the job. I wish it could be about issues but Hillary is gone.
or the gay community… I meant to say.
Paul Krugman, esteemed progressive economist, was never fooled by
Obama. Early on, he let us know that Obama’s health and economic
plans were not merely weak, they were to the right.
Yesterday, he ripped into B.O. for his lack of passion on economic matters, and for avoiding giving Bill Clinton credit for his own brilliant and successful strategy.
httpCOLON//wwwDOTiht.com/articles/2008/08/18/opinion/edkrugmanDOTphp
I think we should put TechDude on the case.
Right, Larry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8FgPsXXJek
you know what T O M???
You don’t make it easy for me personally to keep it REAL here who EVER you are it’s NOT a DEM because if you WERE a DEM you would be trying to work together with people here instead of poking them continuously with your “FULL OF CHIT” pokey mon stick!
troll
Don’t blame me. You’re the folks pushing the bullshit Whitey Tape and COLB “issues”.
And what’s the point of trying to work with people who consistently deny reality? First you claim 18 million “supporters”, then 2 million, and then you can’t even get 250 people to show in DC (for a sweetheart of a price, too - $250 usually doesn’t even cover one night in the Marriott Wardman Park, but whatever) for your meeting. Oh, and you expect rationale people to work with folks like Andy Martin?
what? Are you a raging loon?
Who the frig are you accusing? Not me. Puma has a few million, but almost 18 million people ACTUALLY VOTED for HILLARY! MORE than BAMBI
what other reality is there?
PROVE IT TROLL
your arguments are weak
just like your bambi
OK, who invited Andy Martin to the meeting? Maybe not you personally, but it certainly doesn’t speak well for PUMA.
Yes, 18 million voted for Hillary, but numb-nuts like Will Bower used that number to claim that PUMA had that many supporters. Sure, it was bullshit, but that didn’t stop him. And by the way, it doesn’t help your cause to say that “more people voted for Hillary” when you conveniently leave out the caucus states. I know it doesn’t fit your “selected not elected” narrative, but those were the rules long before HRC decided she didn’t like them (even though Wolfson helped make the rules). Nor does it help your cause that a documented McCain supporter (Darragh Murphy) is playing you folks like a piano.
Here’s some more reality: Obama is going to win the nomination no matter how many (dozens) of you threaten to hold your breath until HRC is nominated.
fif said “That’s the thing about propaganda that they learned in WWII and Bush effectively mastered: repeat something enough and it becomes the truth.”
Bingo.
Wizard of Oz “pay no attention to that man…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
The constant faux victim mentality of O is another ploy that(much like the racism allegations), generates a constant poor me image. Not the kind of image I would like to see representing our country. The assumption is of course he said it, so it must be true. He wasn’t privy to the information the Senate and house had when the decision to attack Iraq was made, his only claim to fame on the issue is the speech he gave, and now as a typical leech he pushes the image that he was there, he was part of it. Pitiful, really. How well do you think it will sit with the world when he whines and blames someone else for his actions? …It wasn’t my fault, they pretended like they were going to push the button, they made me do it, they were being racist…..
O reminds me of a 3 year old in a constant state of passive/aggressive tantruming to get his own way. I say we all send him a piece of cheese to go with that whine.
Your point is well taken about the POOR ME attitude.
We always feel SORRY for “Poor ME!” It’s in our good natures, really. “Poor Me!” makes us send money to that fat guy with the beard on late night TV shilling for “Save The Children.” “Poor ME!” is what helped Paul Potts win BRITAIN’s GOT TALENT (though talent did push him over the finish line, “poor me” tugged at the heartstrings). “Poor ME!” is why some people still love Charlie Chaplain as The Little Tramp.
But “Poor ME!” does NOT a President make. It never has, and it never will.
I don’t want “Poor ME!” trying to lead us, while crying about being misunderstood. I want a leader who’s ready to lead. I wanted Clinton, who truly is ready to lead…but I’ll take Old Popeye if I must.
“Poor Me!” isn’t an option. Not in that job–it’s just too important.
As a lifelong Democrat I am embarassed by the candidate my party chooses to put up for president. He was not “elected” but selected by the DNC, main stream media, and everyone else who fell asleep while listening to his speeches and thought they were listening to the ONE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. John McCain’s story of his vietnam days is so compelling and you see into the heart of the man, one of integrity. But beware, Obama and his henchman (the Axelrod of Evil and others) will try to destroy McCain’s credibility just like the swiftboaters destroyed Kerry’s vietnam credibility (and it worked!!!). Obama cannot win based on experience, issues, ideas, but only on destroying his opponent and he has learned the technique very well in Chicago mob style politics.
well Kerry had alot more experience than Obama too. And the Democrats aren’t as intelligent and/or devious as the Republicans. I think they can take whatever the Dem’s will dish out.
intelligent and/or devious
I’d swap those with
hateful and/or spiteful
Obama’s teenage angst answer was designed to let his Daily Kos base know he feels their pain.
Poor Obama. It’s never his fault. If so and so hadn’t been so racist. If so and so hadn’t cheated. Is this how he’ll handle foreign and domestic policy? By blaming everyone else?
The fact remains Obama didn’t have the answers. That’s no one’s fault but his.
Supposedly Obama is the answer to all of our prayers and problems. According to Pelosi he is sent by God. Then it shouldn’t make any difference what McCain did.
In one of the earliest post-Saddleback interviews (I believe with Rick Sanchez on CNN, but it might have been on FOX), Pastor Rick Warren indicated not only did McCain not have access to the questions beforehand, Warren stated that, in preparation for the forum, he told both men the areas and topics that he would touch upon (but not the precise questions). Thus, Obama and McCain both had ample opportunity to prepare for the interview.
It’s like a lawyer arguing before a judge or group of judges; he/she knows the topics that might be addressed, but not the precise questions that will be asked. Any lawyer worth his/her salt will study the topics and anticipate potential questions. It takes WORK. This forum revealed much about Obama’s character. While away on his Hawaiian vacation, he knew the general themes Rick Warren would touch upon in the upcoming forum, but the great one could evidently not be bothered to prepare himself.
He appears to have a false sense of the depth of his own knowledge and must think that the voters are ignorant rubes who will swallow his lies at face value (hardest decision on Iraq - consulting with his “advisors” when he was still in the Illinois Senate; went against his own party on an ethics bill when he did the opposite, etc.)
And now Obama blames a “cold” or tries to suggest that somehow his opponent “cheated” as he scrambles for an excuse for his poor performance. Barry, give it up. We’ve all noticed that you’re lost without a teleprompter. Most of my friends and colleagues could have done a better job at the Saddleback Forum than you did, without any advance preparation!
God forbid he should ever get to the White House, but can you just imagine presidential press conferences,if he does.
Speaking of Chicago Politics…Chicago Sun Times today says Emil Jones will retire in Jan..in his place…His Son…what a surprise…LOL
I posted that Sunday and another son is going to take his seat (Todd Stroger). Emil has $1M in his campaign chest, wonder how much barky will get? A friend of mine told me back in February that HRC should use Emil’s picture in an ad, it will be his Willie Horton. Before you say this is racist, I Am The Official Black Spokes Person (OBSP.
This beats all…
Go to AOL, and read about Rosanne Bashing Angelina and Brad. First off, I do think Angie and Brad are weird, and I don’t think Shiloh is all that cute. I am a Suri fan, however, angie and brad are cool with me. Roseanne is an obamabot. And she calls angie spawn of evil cause they don’t support obama. She gives some other lame behind excuses. But this is starting to get out of hand. Obama supporters, need to be stopped.
Angelina goes to Africa to help people with Aids and especially tries to help the children.
Brad has set up an organization in NO to help the survivors rebuild there.
Maybe Rosanne should stop trashing them and try to emulate them.
Rosanne should stick to grabbing her crotch while singing the national anthem…the only entertaining thing she ever did. What a complete waste of skin.
LINK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFW2aYHVR8&feature=related
What else would anyone expect of Roseanne? Like she sings (destroys) the National Anthem and then sticks her hands between her crotch just like Barrakuda’s favorite rappster do, which is about the same thing as Ayers wiping his feet on the American flag. The same flag so many patriotic Americans have fought and died under for those jerks freedom. Choose any Obama supporter and you will see the pattern–Kerry and his medals that he trashed?
“His “poor grandfather?” He didn’t mention that his grandmother was a bank executive huh?”
His “poor” grandparents managed to send him to one of the most expensive prep schools in the US..for eight years. Current tuition is $16,675+fees per year.
Some one should ask him…exactly WHEN were you living on food stamps. Another lie.
Obama can lie to some of the people some of the time but he can lie to the Obamacans ALL the time.
I wish someone would show me a link. I can NOT believe anyone would lie about being on food stamps.
Trust me it’s humiliating enough!!!
(it happened to me about 20 yrs ago)
if he’s lying about that he’s beyond help
Barack Obama was born in 1961 but his mother could not get food stamps then because a) she was married and b) they were not available then.
Then Barack Senior moved to a foreign country. I don’t think that we were sending food stamps to foreign nations.
When she moved back in 1965, food stamps were not available in Hawaii in 1965.
In 1967, she married the second time and moved to Jakarta. Nope, no food stamps then.
By the time she moved back once again, he was living with his grandparents who had jobs and food stamps were not being handed out like Halloween candy in those years.
Great! I never believed the food stamp story, but you nailed it.
ok, but she never married barry’s real dad right? he was already married to someone else?
perhaps she applied for them when she found out he was just a PUNK
what was she? 18, 19? gawd her parents should be horsewhipped (ok maybe not horsewhipped but slapped a bit)
Wow, Oduma is the gift that truly keeps on giving. I can see McCain using his latest fug up in a similar ad to the one they used on Kerry with the wind surfing. Picture this: In the ad, Oduma is asked how will you stimulate the economy? “uhm, that’s above my pay grade”. Mr. oduma, how will you solve our energy crisis? “uhm, that’s above my pay grade…”, question after hard question the announcer asks Oduma and the response, the same. See how effective that is? That’s the only ad McCain needs to run from now until November and he will crush, I repeat, crush Odumba. He uses his words, (remember “just words”) against Odumba and nobody can accuse McCain of making anything up. Came from the jackasses own mouth!!!!
His created identity is not one that encompasses his entire genealogy. He chooses the parts of his family history that will score him the mosy sympathy points, or as I am sure you will hear it phrased, empathy points, so he can manipulate people to relate to him.
TO deny part of ones own heritage is to either be afraid of it, or to have no self-identification of it.
It isn’t like he is the only mixed race person in this country; being of mixed race is a common occurence with many people, the difference is, does one ignore one entire part of their family? Most people do not and cannot.
Obama soetoro got where he is today by lying.doublespeak and obfuscation! His whole identity is a lie! He no doubt, after returning from Indonesia tossed his indonesian passport and used a copy of his pre Barry Soetoro cancelled COLB that he found in some file of his mothers documents to get a drivers lic. and passport!
The whole world would be better off if Obama just took his basket ball and went and played (w/himself or is that by himself) in his own back yard. Why is everybody always picking on Barry? It’s really hard being Barrakuda because people like Warren always set him up for a fall and set up people like McCain to upstage the constitutional lawyer. Seems Obama’s way with words is what most of the stooges for Obama liked about him so much to begin with. So what has happened to old brown eyes? OH! The Truth Fairey got his tongue BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I know that some Democrats are horrified that any lifelong Dem like myself could even consider voting for McCain, but I tell them that I approach political candidates no differently than I approach other relationships.
In the real world, I have more RESPECT for someone with whom I honestly disagree, but who is clear on their opinions, than a wishy-washy pleaser who tailors their convictions to their audience of the moment. I like to know what I’m dealing with. I can argue with a reasonable person I disagree with, and often hammer out some grudging compromise. I know where the lines are, and what the battle is, and what leverage to apply.
The smarmy “pleaser”, who one minute loves teh gays and the next minute frowns on their unholy unions, who votes whichever way the wind blows or else takes a pass on taking a stand on ANYTHING, is not to be trusted.
I meet people like that in real life - in my job, in my neighborhood. And I despise them. They are contemptible.
I’d rather deal with actual opposition than the MUSH that they spout. I can grudgingly respect even those I strongly disagree with, and find compromise. But you can neither count on, nor make a deal with, nor predict behavior, nor turn your back on a person who has NO moral or ideological compass.
I’m old. I’ve met, and have experience with, people of Obama’s ilk. I avoid them like the plague. They are a poison WORSE than a true enemy.
that would be nice if it were ONLY the ONE person you were voting for instead of the whole DIRT BALL party that comes with them!!!!!
It’s a toss up imo
I understand that it’s a risk. But McCain, despite his rhetoric now to consolidate his base, has a history of being reasonable so long as he did not have to commit political suicide to do it. I think that once freed from the necessity to placate the neo-cons to keep his position, he may be more moderate than he lets on. Again, it’s a risk, and we need good Dems in Congress to be a check on the nutjob slimeballs.
Do I think he’s a good choice? Absolutely not. The GOOD choice is almost out of the race. So at this point, McCain is the only candidate left for whom I have some modicum of RESPECT, if not agreement. I’m left with either a guy opposed to many of my views, or a guy who will spout my views one day, then spout or ACT the opposite the next. The election has come down to a true lesser of two evils scenario, and I understand Democrats who could choose either path. It’s a fine line.
Indeed.
I must admit this is the first time in my life I’ve ever had such a dilemma in my soul!
The more vitriol I read against DEMS here (when it’s lies) the more I question being here
but then I find myself blurting some thing actually shockingly TRUE that the left has done and I decide I can’t really tell the difference between the two anymore
it’s all in technique
and both suck
we can be passive aggressive
or just AGGRESSIVE
left, right, left
I’ll just keep marching until my soul is satisfied and my heart is strong again (pray for stem cells mmkay?)
Know what you are talking about. If Obama wins EVERYBODY loses. If Hillary or McCain wins EVERYBODY wins. So the silver lining here is, either way the Obamacans lose —BUT—Even they have a better shot at life if they lose. Just like God said “It rains on the evil just as it rains on the good”.
speaking of rain?
Where is FAY today?
We sure could use the rain up the east coast here! And I KNOW Florida needs the rain.
Barack/Barry Soertoro/Obama reminds me of that real life con artist David Hampton who convinced almost everyone that he was the son of Sidney Poitier back in 1983. He fooled a lot of celebrities and wealthy people before he was finally caught and the movie Six Degrees of Separation is about that ruse.
Ever since I began hearing about Obama’s double life, I keep wondering what he got away with because he seems to have duped celebrities, the wealthy , and the Democratic party. Can’t wait for the movie to see what we didn’t find out.
Soetoro really IS a con artist. He’s been conning people his whole life, using them, and then dumping them when he doesn’t need them anymore. His history of associations is simply stunning, and yet he touts his “judgment” as his sole reason for being the President of the US, and leader of the free world?! I mean, it’s really breathtaking that ANYONE would believe this man. I think this entire country suffers from mass delusion. I’m horrified that this man could actually become president. Our White House is defiled enough after the past 8 years. For 8 long years, I’ve felt like a stranger in a strange land–not my country! I haven’t flown an American flag since G.W.Bush took over in a coup. I cannot believe Americans will vote for Barry Soetoro. He’s just a con.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama_and_campaign_contributor_Alexi_Giannoulias
C.S. I concur. I don’t think he gets away with it, particularly with the celebrity types, I think they can relate to him, although their lives may appear easy because of wealth, and they may have more of a voice in the media because of recognition, most are as manufactured as he is. Most of us enjoy some celebrity gossip, but in the past 10 years, we have become such a voyeuristic culture, that the presumption of celebrity power and entitlement has created an ideal of fame for the common person.(as well as an assumption of looks, body type and age). I don’t claim to know what all that entails, but I am pretty sure delusions of grandeur are at the top of the list.
Much is manufactured based on fantasy, and fairy tale.
Reality gets shoved out the window on the 6 pm news, recall the horror of New Orleans, or the lack of actual war coverage; unlike 1967 the real images are way too much to be seen or to comprehend, so in place is a comfortable manufacturing of reality, and most folks gulp it down by the cup full.
Who was a driving force in bringing us Obama, forgot? It was Oprah. When Obama released his book of lies, Oprah introduced Obama to her viewers, praising his book and story.
Well now we have learned that Oprah and her show does absolutley no fact checking for her guests, because anyone with a half brain would have figured out the lies over Selma and the Kennedy Airlift in the opening chapters.
So who do we have to thank for this pathological lying candidate is Oprah and her show that proves she does no research, just rakes in the money for her own greed!
Don’t underestimate the Howard Dean factor. Dean found his perfect candidate in Obama–both are of the same SOCIALIST order.
She needs to eat and eat and eat. And with inflation food and hair has gotten very expensive.
Obama is a scam. HE DID NOT SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS AT ALL! HIS FRIEND LARRY SINCLIAR IS GAY AND STAYED WITH OBAMA IN A LIMO. DO YOU REMEMBER OBAMA?
OMG. The nicknames for Obama keep coming and I love it. I think I hear (read) a new one everyday. Can we start a thread here? What is your favorite Obama nickname?
Personally, I like to call him Barry. It just shows how truly un-special he is. And hints at his dual persona.
Or how about throwing gay marriage under the bus - again
Rev. I am curious, when I heard that comment, how many times has it been that the “community has been thrown under the Bus? Is it possible to apply for frequent “under the bus” miles? At some point ya think an upgrade to first class would be in order.
Must feel like being an abused ragdoll syndrome by now.
BO thinks he can sing;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro7IAv5K7jg&feature=related
Greetings! Just dropping in to see how the puma-brains are faring. Still bitter after all this time? Nothing that a little thorazine won’t fix! Remember, Hillary wants you to vote for Obama, so be sure & get all the bitterness & angst out by early Nov so you can pull the lever for Barack!
Oh and “Happy belated birthday to Barack Obama!” On August 4, 1961 born in HAWAII! 47 years old! HAPPY BIRTHDAY BARACK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g
THANX for giving us the Obama drag queen series
. We haven’t had such comedy since the Three Stooges–AKA Howard Dean, N. Pelosi, and (insert your favorite here) Barry Soetoro. OH! and by the way, he will let even YOU kiss his ass if the price is right BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh, do you have a birthday cake for baby Obama? Oh, I’ll be happy to deliver it to him right in his big face, I’ve always wanted to do that to the messiah.
Oh, can I pull the lever for Obama — I mean the one that releases the trap door that hangs Obama.
McCain camp needs to make an ad showing a bad photo of oblowme and a TIMELINE.
Here is when obamprah was elected to office, and here is when the war vote took place.
Here are the vote tabulations, see….HRC that won the popular vote.
THE CULT WAS BLINDED BY THE COMBUSTION OF THE MOTHER SHIP
Cue cards to keep the deranged Old Man War from forgetting his talking points? You sure are a wascally wabbit! The ship that blew up belonged to that little Martian guy…..Marvin!
Oh, not everybody needs cue cards like baby Obama to talk.
Imagine this scenario:
You are due to have heart surgery; your surgeon has been out of school for some time, and decided to opt out of working on a hospital surgical team, instead going to work at a clinic as a GP.
Then a couple years ago there was a shortage of surgeons, so your doctor went to the local medical board and pulled out papers and said, “Look, I’m a surgeon, hire me”. They did. He joined the hospital team, a couple years ago now, and has observed many surgeries, only assisting on maybe 3. The hospital says, he had the papers so he can do whatever surgery he wants.
How are you feeling about that surgery, right now?
Well, if I am John McSame and they replaced that black lump of coal where my heart should be with a real heart, then I guess I’m feeling pretty perky about it. In fact, so perky that I might just dump my aging “trollop” for a younger piece of….er, woman. Oh, that’s right I already did that to my first wife, after she was horribly disfigured in a fiery car wreck.
Comment expected, rating a 3, lack of originality, intelligence or in relation to the topic.
3=Typical, Common place.
Katmoon, note the creative use of McWar’s favorite term of endearment for lovely Cindy Hensley-McCain! Slipping in “trollop” should merit a higher score, no?
Oh, you get $7 per hour to peddle Obama, don’t you feel embarrassed peddling a bumbling idiot.
No sir, I wouldn’t take any amount of $$ to hang out here with this fun crowd! The intellectual stimulation I receive here on NQ is more than enough compensation.
Gotta go, stay fun! Keep a smile on!
Bot trolls STILL have nothing positive to say about Barry - ’cause there just IS NOTHING! Isn’t that interesting…
Ah, but the inane talking points about barry’s opponents keep comin’ fast and furious now don’t they…spoon-fed by the campaign every morning - to the pubescent online bots and the pubescent media bots - same exact stuff.
Problem for you idiots is - well, let’s just say you and your messiah have A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS. And it’s only gonna get worse - much worse - as your empty suit keeps TALKING and tanking himself! And, as you bots keep TALKING and helping him tank himself. And, as the rightwing, which hasn’t even started yet - brings it all out AND TANKS HIM FOR GOOD!
Can you say “McCain Landslide,” bots? We know you can - you repeat so well - and that’s about all…
Firefly! I gave heartfelt birthday greetings to Senator Barack Obama earlier in the thread! Born 47 years ago Aug 4 in HAWAII! Is that not positive?
But if it is positivity you want to hear about Barack, here it is: 44th President of the United States! Leadership skills to take us past the 8-year nightmare of Republican rule and into the new era where repairing international alliances with our friends will be SO crucial to ensuring economic and geopolitical stability!
I could go on, but I can only imagine huge “TILT” signs popping up in your eyes, like the old pinball machines I used to play back in the ’70’s!
Wow, Obama had a birthday, that must be a major accomplishment. When he defecates is that an accomplishment as well? In Obama’s case the basics are accomplishments for him — the guy is a national embarrassment. Obama could not lead a Cub Scout troop, he could only lead a group of zombies over a cliff.
NorASS why not tell the whole truth
His first wife has forgiven him.
(it’s HER right and decision)
JUST like it was HILLARY’s
and NONE of his kids that I’ve read have disowned him (unlike Ghouliani and perhaps someday Eddie’s kids?)
um yep
The bot got the gist of what I wrote, or it wouldn’t have gone defensive.
C. Norris definition: Insignificant. Corny. Hackneyed. Puerile. Sexist. Boorish. Rude. Stupid. Politically-Ignorant. Angry. Hateful. Spiteful. Classic O-Bot spammer.
For those interested.
CSPAN TV is LIVE with the Russia-Georgia Conflict right now!
Great video of Hillary. I think she was about to say “defect”, lol
“He couldn’t answer tough questions in the debate. So Barack Obama is making false charges against Hillary’s health care plan,”
The famous Shame on You Barack video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_X-RoRghAY
She made this speech in Ohio. Love it!!
Ohioans for Hillary! lol @ that clown thinking he can win without us.
nope.
Man, I miss that lady!
WMCB how I have missed you from over at that unmentionable site, tm.
Hey…someone out here said Roseanne is an obama-nut.
NOT. She is supporting the green candidate, and if you go back and read her writings you will find she does not like oblowme. She despises him and the party at this point.
She is just strongly opposed to repubs in general.
NUT is the operative word. Me thinks her medication is no longer working.
From the piece at AOL, Roseanne is mad that Brangelina have not endorsed OBAMA. No clue what she has written or said elsewhere, but that is what THIS article says…
Yes, there was another thing Backtrack [Obama] Soetoro did in Pennsylvania. When THEY had THEIR “Compassion Forum”, and Hillary went first, Backtrack O didn’t even bother try to hide the fact that HE LISTENED TO HILLARY’S QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, because the IDIOT actually called attention to it when he had to be typical Obama in having to give a response to Hillary’s answer!
“Al Gore was mentioned earlier and I have to say, I think Al Gore won”.
VIDEO
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/clinton-gore-and-kerry-we_n_96452.html
and
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/13/se.01.html