TALES FROM THE FRONT
By Dr. Lynette Long on August 21, 2008 at 6:22 PM in Delegates, Democracy, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Disenfranchisement, Rules and Bylaws Committee, Washington state
Approximately a year ago thousands of committed volunteers attended “Camp Obama,” a four-day indoctrination program, geared at teaching pre-screened Obama volunteers grass roots organizational strategies.
The training, which specifically focused on the caucus states, taught volunteers to be “ruthless,” “take risks,” and win at all costs. Obama’s campaign and Camp Obama’s strategy which focused on the vulnerable caucuses and the early primaries worked.
Obama only lost 1 out of 14 caucuses, a staggering achievement, especially when he lost 21 out of 38 primaries and scored a statistical tie in popular vote. How did he accomplish such an astonishing string of victories that would eventually define the Democratic Primary?
At www.caucusanalysis.org, a new website devoted exclusively to the 2008 Democratic caucuses, you can read Tales from the Front, stories told to sites founder, Dr. Lynette Long, by participants in all 14 caucus states. Here are excerpts from the website. For complete statements and a mathematical analysis of each state, go to www.caucusanalysis.org.
FROM IOWA
I live in Davenport, Iowa - Precinct 23. I arrived at our precinct caucus at 6:30. At 6:50 pm, over 75 people of African American descent came walking in, past the tables and sat in the Obama section. I knew one of them from my canvassing. I knew another one who did not live in this precinct! And aside from the 4 or 5 families that live on Hillandale Road, there are no other black people in this unusually white precinct and one of those black couples were in my Hillary section. The results were Obama 3, Clinton, 2, Edwards 1! It was impossible for me to argue since the precinct chair was an Obama supporter from another precinct. A very large bus was seen in the parking lot afterwards carrying these folks back.
FROM IOWA
You probably have heard about the busloads coming in from over the IL border, but you may not have known about the busloads coming in from the NE border. North Omaha and Omaha itself are two of the three places in NE — Lincoln being the third — where there’s over 5% African-American population. Obama’s campaign offered people things like I-pods and free stuff– t-shirts, clothes, shoes, and at least two free meals on the Nebraska side.
FROM KANSAS
There were a lot of young people there and a lot of black people. We do not have that many blacks in this county. El Dorado is a small town of about 12,000 and it is the largest town in the county. There are probably only a handful of blacks that live in El Dorado. I work with the school district and travel to the high school, middle school and elementary schools and believe me, there are very, very, few black students.
FROM MINNESOTA
There was NO voter registration for the MN caucus… no identification was checked so Obots were going from room to room voting over and over again giggling all the while doing it.
FROM NEVADA
Throughout this mess of a process, hostility built to a degree I found truly alarming. Some overenthusiastic BHO supporters formed a gauntlet in the hallway outside the registration area, on the way to the ballroom, within the zone in which campaigning was prohibited. Any HRC supporter was subject to verbal abuse, ridicule and, eventually, physical assault.
FROM NEBRASKA
Nebraska was totally chaotic and each precinct location had a different way to do the caucus. In Nebraska, 18 precincts where crammed into one high school in Sarpy county. When I got there, it felt like I stepped into a Third World voting situation. They were trying to determine whether people could actually participate in the caucuses or not, and then it seemed like they just gave up on that and just let anyone participate. There was a gym at the high school where about 5 precincts met. A person was supposed to fill out their preference on a slip of paper and then turn it in. They tried to run it like a primary instead of a true caucus, just take out any semblance of order and guards against voter disenfranchisement that a normal primary would have. I found a pile of these preferences slips just sitting on a table where anyone could pick them up and fill them out.
FROM TEXAS
I was at the Texas Caucus and the Obama supporter’s took the Packets as early as 6:30 AM which they were told not to do, They never let go and then when time came to vote they took over the precinct by some of them pushing the people that were supposed to run it across the room to chairs. They called in incorrect totals for Obama instead of correct ones. He actually had 4 delegates and they called in 19 delegates.
When my 88 year old Mother showed up, who can hardly walk on her walker, and they took her walker away from her when she said she was there to vote for Hillary. They said you are in the wrong place old woman; this is an Obama precinct, and you need to go across town. When I saw what was happening I called the police. Blog post no quarter evelyn
FROM TEXAS
As an eye witness at the Precinct and Senate District Conventions, this is how Obama won many caucuses. First of all, vast numbers of Obama supporters were bused in to the conventions. They were loud and intimidating. Texas Democratic rules state that each person who participates in the Precinct Convention should have voted in this precinct and sign-in personally on a formal sign-in sheet. So many Obama people showed up, that there were not enough sign-in sheets available, so when the conventions ended, there were many sign-in sheets for Obama filled out in the same handwriting, not signed-in as specified. As Hillary supporters, we obtained copies of these sign-in sheets from all over south Texas, Harris County in particular. We laboriously compared the names on the sheets to see if the person who attended the precinct convention had voted in the primary election. Many listed Obama people had not. We then cross-checked the names of the Obama people to see if they lived in the correct precinct. Many times the Obama people did not come to the correct precinct and often appeared on sign-in sheets, as being present in several precinct conventions at the same time (a violation of the space-time continuum).
FROM THE TEXAS CONVENTION
I walked into the Nueses,Texas County Convention only to discover that I was already there as an Obama delegate.
FROM THE TEXAS CONVENTION
They shoved Obama signs in Clinton delegates’ faces, three inches from the nose, called them racists, and told my friend that she had to move from her third-row seat in one meeting and go sit in the back. She also said that the proceedings were heavily laced with black power speeches by preachers as well as public officials.
FROM WASHINGTON STATE
What I saw was at least 3 trained group agitators — Since my MA is in group dynamics and group facilitation I recognized when someone is using techniques that I have been trained in. If such individuals were planted in ALL precincts, along with bringing in ringers — then ALL caucus results are bogus. For this sort of intensive origination to take place in a rural area — this means that a vast amount of money was spent to manipulate the results of the caucus. The Obama supporters kept changing the number of delegates — subtracting Clinton delegates and increasing Obama delegates, each time they claimed someone had changed and they had to do "complicated" math and that’s why Clinton kept losing delegates. There were NO Clinton supporters checking the Obama "math".
Read full accounts at www.caucusanalysis.org.
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and they think the hillary supporters who attended the caucus to get screamed at are going to vote for obama. they did more harm to the party than they did good.
If this is the type of new party obama was talking about i’m outta there.
Thanks so much, Lynette, for your hard work on this issue and the site. This is exactly what we need to do, expose the fraud, so that it doesn’t happen again.
Many Hillary supporters from the caucuses will never support Barry, as Phishmelt correctly points out.
Team McCain has released its second video ad of the day, ‘Housing Problem,’ discussing Rezko and Barry’s Rezko Mansion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCz1gnuIcI
Pass it on, favorite it and spread the word!
I’m glad McCain is not shying away from these issues. If the MSM won’t do their job, let the Republicans expose the truth. Someone has to.
That was fast! Johnny on the spot.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf
In the latest NBC/WSJ poll, Hillary would have a 6 point lead over McCain. Obama has a three point lead.
Tell that to the delegates.
FASCIST IS AS FASCIST DOES….Thankyou Dr. Long. I’m from Texas and saw the Texas Hornswaggle myself. Teenagers who were not eligible to vote showed up at the caucuses and caucused. One of them was proudly bragging to her pal, my daughter who had just turned 18 and was excited about voting and caucusing for Hillary. My daughter was astonished and said to her friend in front of the group that She should be ASHAMED of herself and that she had committed VOTER FRAUD akin to what happens in 3rd world countries. This girl was part of a group of about 8 teenagers in an Urban precinct. This illegal caucusing happened all over the state and Rove’s christian camper bubbas enabled it….WHY ?
Because Hillary Clinton is the first candidate in a long time who really could’ve brought the Republic back into the Tent.
*** EXPOSE THE FRAUD. OBAMA IS A FASCIST AND UNFIT FOR POTUS ***
*BREAKING* Lawsuit Being Filed Today in Philadelphia *MEDIA ALERT* [Update]
August 21, 2008 · 56 Comments
I have just received word that a lawsuit will be filed today in Federal Court challenging Barack Obama’s qualifications to be President.
I am told that ALL MEDIA should report to the U.S. District Courthouse in Philadelphia in approximately one hour.
US District Court, Eastern District of PA
601 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19106-1797
Ph: 215-597-7704
It is currently 3:30 PM EST.
UPDATE: The motion will be for an emergency temporary restraining order prohibiting Obama from running for president, and enjoining the DNC from nominating Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate.
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ahem…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
How interesting that this appears right after Obama’s return from Hawaii…oh and is’nt Factcheck.org owned by Annenberg?
Hmm, sounds like a conflict of interest. The American people have a right to demand that the original bc be provided to federal electoral authorities as proof and NOT to an organization that
is involved in a current controversy re some sealed documents detailing its involvement with Obama, Ayers and ACORN.
Ehemm….Cixelsyd….This aint’ just about the COLB which aint’ the same thing as a Birth Certificate….
Check out the Questions….And currently in America It is still LEGAL to ask Questions.
Barry has a hard time answering the most simple questions….The kind on your average job application.
Per Factcheck.org. Obama keeps a certified copy of his birth certificate at his campaign HQ. They have photos of the certified document as well. I guess this kills that eligibility lawsuit, huh?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
DaliyKos is running it too:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/21/181318/079/418/572147
I don’t know, I would think the courts like to have a hard copy, but that’s just my opinion. If the law suit goes thru, all he has to do is bring it in/ or have another certified one sent. Not sure what the court would decide.
Should have added, not sure if the state requires a copy in the courtroom is what I am saying, if the case is heard. Don’t know if a court considers FactCheck an expert for this, or if the attorneys would have a problem with it.
This might be a good time to discuss “burden of proof.” As in, it is the burden of the party filing the lawsuit to produce competent evidence to prove their case. Accusations aren’t enough.
Cixel,
You could be right, I don’t know exactly what type of case it is that is being filed, so there in lies who has the burden, like you said.
The party seeking the injunction ALWAYS hs the burden. If all they have is accusations and speculation, the injunction will be denied.
Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest in covering Barack Obama because they are owned by The Annenberg Foundation.
Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest: Obama, Acorn and the Anneburg Challenge.
its another fake certificate, and they will have to produce it again at trial. ha ha
Bullshit, the shadow on the certificate is conveniently placed to hide the fact that the embossed seal is not there in the wide shot. The close up of the seal was taken from another COLB.
And a flash wasn’t used to not dig into the shadow.
Oh, yeah, hold the BC at an angle so nothing can be seen on it, then have little closeups.
Why not just one GOOD shot of the certificate?
Nice try!
Kevin, This is about Discovery Motions. In the filing of the law suit Obama will be required to produce documents for discovery and these are extensive and routine. Obama will have to convince a judge why He shouldn’t have to produce these in a hearing. This will be interesting.
wca
its kelvin
not kevin
that would be me
and how is the mildly facist state of Texas this fine morning?
Sorry kevin….TYPO OOPS ! didn’t mean to offend as you are one o’ favorite commenters….scuse’
The mildly Fascist state of Texas has gotten plenty o’ rain and is now returning to it’s heat index that is biblical in hellishness….chuckle…
How’s the weather in your backyard ?
Gotta love that Lawyer Berg….chuckle….
*** DISCOVERY IS A BITCH….BARRY….***
Somehow I doubt that. Why should he produce anything? To satisfy you PUMAs. He’s a federal employee. He just didn’t walk off of the street and ran for president. All his identification and citizenship information is on file and has been documented. The first thing you do as a presidential candidate is verify your citizenship to determine eligibility. Per Article 2 of US Constitution eligibility must be proven prior to him running.
http://www.2008electionprocon.org/pdf/USConstitution_Article2.pdf
http://www.2008electionprocon.org/howtopresident.htm#constitution
Also, Obama practiced constitutional law. He himself would know that he would not get away with cheating the system. This case will be thrown out and the lawyer presenting the case should be disbarred.
Any credible links? One owned by Annenberg and the other hate site is not trust worthy either.
Nobama!!
HAHAHA So it begins! I thought it was going to start after BO is Nominated! I guess MAC could not help himself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC2AlWy6CI
Thanks to TexasDarlin’ and other’s extraordinary work and research into his elegibility. God bless them.
ROFL! Good one, McCain. I guess old age and treachery really does beat youth and beauty every time.
Bad move, Obama. If I were you, I would have avoided any mention of houses or mansions.
The caucus experience HARDENED my determination never to vote for Obama/Soetoro.
The Obama thugs are vicious — we do not want that sort of authoritarian monster let loose in America.
News is reporting that two McCain campaign offices, Co. & NH, were mailed envelopes containing white powder substance…Would not put it pass it-that the Soetoro, AKA Obama wannabe thugs are at it again. This is a script directly out of training manuels from Robert Mugabe thug supporters from Zimbabwe!
Sorry off Topic again
Mccains office receives two envelopes with white powder substance..
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/21/mccain-office-receives-envelope-with-white-powder-threat/
Gee, can we guess who sent those envelopes with the white powder.
I just hope the powder was benign.
Is Obambi’s FRIEND Ayers up to old ways yet again, would not surprise me at all. Perhaps Ayers has progressed from BOMBS to WHITE POWDER.
Obama and Ayers have been into white powder since the 70’s.
Obama wouldn’t be mailing that white powder … unless he plans to report the McCain offices to Drug Enforcement authorities.
hmm having posting difficulty with youtube videos.
Obama put out an add criticizing McCain for not stating how many houses he and cindy own. MacDaddy just struck back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC2AlWy6CI
Looks like the punking from Saddleback is going to continue.
Score another one from Big Mac.
I remember Hillary dropping hints about this toward the end of the primaries. Remember the times she’d mention that Obama tended to win caucuses and she won primaries? I didn’t take them as a hints at the time, but in retrospect that’s what they were.
Off topic, but has anyone been watching CNN? It’s like they snapped out of a deep sleep. Suddenly, they’re airing Obama’s laundry including; Annenberg, Obama’s real estate deal, Rezko, and suggesting that Obama NEEDS Hillary now. It’s so surreal. Good, but surreal.
If they pressure Hillary into joining the bottom of the ticket she is screwed.
They will claim its her negatives that cost him the election.
DON’T DO IT HILL!!
LET HIM SINK OR SWIM ON HIS OWN MERITS!
She’s too good for the bottom of any ticket..I can’t see her ever taking the VP job….Don’t count out the Clinton’s..
Top of the Ticket or Nothing
Absolutely. He’s mortally wounded already — what do you think he’ll be like in a month or two? That abortion issue will kill him with Middle America alone. Hillary should wait until 2012.
funny comedian on youtube making fun of the Democrats choices this year, and Obama’s VP pick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5GaaD2-Whs
The house of cards is falling!!!!!!!!!!!
CNN is still infotainment…don’t believe it. It’s all about ratings because FOX will sweep if they air the nasty dirty stuff…no one wants to see Wolf Blitzer be Barry’s cheerleader everyday.
I will never be able to thank you for what you all have done here. I am a grown man and I am almost overwhelmed with emotion to the point of tears. Thank you all.
Panic and desperation are the only explanation, serves them right. I think one of the beneficiaries of this campaign is Fox news. For years millions of people bought into the rest of the media’s attacks, only to discover now, that although leaning to the right, you can still get more balanced information there.
it is most likely because they are so in the tank that they see it as the only remote chance obamprah has.
maybe viewership is down.
But Fox, for some reason, declined to run the $2.8 million ad on about Ayres????
Something bigger up their sleeves?
Nice way CNN worked to place the inexperienced Obama on top of the ticket. Now they see he has a snow ball in-his-place-in hell chance of winning the general so they are going to manipulate to pressure for Hillary to take second place…I don’t think so.
I hope this list of case histories gets compiled and sent to some investigative government against voter fraud office. Perhaps also to some citizen rights group, to a publisher, as a chain email so the world sees what happened in the US, etc.
Now it’s CNN’s fault that Hillary lost? You guys are really reaching now.
Kevin-Sip some more Kool-aid!
No it’s not the media fault, but they did hurt her. It was the Jessie Jackson rule where the delegates were awarded based on appeasing his black ass. There is no way 30,000 people in Iowa should determine the POTUS, which under the dem system it basically does.
I smell troll and it’s kind of stink, go shower and go to bed. You know it’s past your bed time.
I saw Hardball tonight and the panelists were saying that the only way Obama can bring in Hillary supporters is for Hillary to go out and really stump for him. I was so pissed. Why does Hillary always have to carry the ball for this freak? She’s done enough!
Obama doesn’t know what it is like to run a campaign where there is opposition. He is used to his Chicago tactics taking care of his opponent. This is new ground for him so he has to lie, cheat and steal. Hence the caucaus fraud. I know he has peeps in the Diebold organization too. God only knows what November is going to look like.
This situation begs the question: If Obama needs her to win, then perhaps she should be on top of the ticket. She wouldn’t need him.
And somebody in the DNC leadership should have figured that out a longggggggggggggggg time ago!
amen Catherine!
Ob has Joe Andrew at Diebold. He was a chairman of the DNC in the past. He originally came out for Clinton then switched to ob and went on CNN to promote him by spewing constant lies. Right after he switched to Ob, Joe got a big job at Diebold.
It made me shiver.
omfg.
I wonder if Mark Crispin Miller will quit huffing the hopium and cover this? And cover this caucus info?
At least we have some of the heavy hitters of electoral fraud research….Paul Lusiak, for one.
And thank you, Dr. Long, for posting this story.
They still put a positive spin on things for Obiedumba. Then the pundits defend him. My hope is that people’s ears perk up and then they hit the internet for more info!
When Rezko was mentioned during a debate by Hillary, I had no idea what that was about. I started reading the trial in the Chicago papers and it just didn;t smell right and made Obielyin look like a liar and player. It just went downhill by then. With Osohighonmyselfa that is how it goes, one thing leads to another, to another, to another and so on. Then you know you will never vote for him.
Definitely, I do believe Hillary was giving hints throughout the primary and Bill most definitely did in that interview he did recently.
As for CNN changing their coverage a bit, it is building and I predict they will slaughter Ostupidfraud as soon as the convention is finished next week!
Yeah I actually started reading up about the candidates at that debate where Hillary mentioned Rezko.
If i hadn’t watched it i would never have even thought to look it up.
I am sure a lot of the veiwing public said rezko huh? and promptly forgot it.
The MSM has failed to do its job of adequatley covering this and oh so many other lovely stories about the Fauxbama.
I imagine in my happy view of the world that they realized that they had two months after the Selection and are holding all the good stuff for when a lot more people are actually tuned in.
All the time I was doing my primary vs caucus research, I had one head-shaking moment after another.
Now, I’m reading all the stories of caucus fraud and irregularities … and I’m having one head-shaking moment after another.
Unbelievable!
Lynette, you’ve done a superb job!
— peniel cronin
Hey! Aren’t you the one who did the definitive work on the primary/caucus injustices?? If so, your work is FANTASTIC (again, if not disturbing).
Wow - two great researchers in one place!! Amazing!
Yes. Dr. Long has included my final report under “Caucus Statistics”. It is chock-full of new info throughout.
And I’ll tell you, the statistics on primary vs caucus - plus now the documented stories of irregularities and outright fraud have GOT to get the eye of the superdelegates.
If they turn a blind eye to so much info … then hopefully the Democratic base will hold each of them responsible - by remembering when that superdelegate comes up for election (if applicable).
One thing for sure, Howard Dean has got to go!!! What a disservice he has done to our Party and to Hillary.
btw Reverend Amy, you’re actually irreverent in a wonderful way!
— peniel cronin
Why, thank ya!! That is a great compliment coming from you!
The final report you did is really amazing. I encourage everyone to go take a look at it.
I sure do hope this info gets to the appropriate people. It has been incredibly frustrating that there is so much documentation to back up the ways by which Obama got where he is. The DNC has definitely turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the evidence. It just boggles the mind…
I cannot believe I was ever happy that Howard Dean was going to be the Chairman. That is a faint memory. How can someone do so much damage in such a short time??
In any event, thank you (and Dr. Long) for the work you have done in order that truth will out. Well done!
Thank you for documenting all the stats about caucus versus primary.
Thank you Peniel, also!
Dr. Long, this is just incredibly disturbing. That the will of the people has been so subverted during this Primary season is just plain shocking. I think we all felt caucuses were not great, but what you have reported (great website, too, btw) is criminal, is it not? And if it IS, how does this info get out to get proceedings started? At the very LEAST, this info needs to be in every newpaper across the land…
Excellent work…
Yep saw agression in my Precinct in Dallas. ALso Obama supporters tried to sign in voters during the primary for the caucus taking place later in the evening. That is a HUGE No-No!
Athena….OakCliff was a disaster…..
I attended 4 caucuses in Colorado and each one got worse and worse in terms of organization. Although I didn’t experience anything other than verbal intimidation and rudeness, there were others who had stories to tell. I’m forever disgusted and if anyone had told me this would happen amongst Democrats, I would have said they were crazy. Live and learn as they say. Barry will never get my vote because I have a thing against cheaters.
Who was doing the verbal intimidation - were they young people? And were they insulting Hillary? Were they African American?
The attack by the O team just lets McCain counter with Rezko ads, like he should have been doing anyway.
The other side will soon learn that when Republicans get attacked, they generally don’t go off wind surfing.
yep, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC2AlWy6CI
My apologies for the off topic comment; should have stayed on the subject of Obama’s young, well indoctrinated Red Guards.
Rookie mistake, how could he even mention a house. Since a lot of republican and indy’s did not pay attention to the primary races and knew nothing about Dirty Tony, he handed him that opening on a siver platter.
Also according to Politico, McCain does not own the homes, his wife does. McCain should have known that and did a Kerry. Like Kerry, he and his wife did not file jointly and he should have said, I don’t own homes, my rich wife does.
After the Keating 5 scandal, the McCains had to separate the holdings because of Cindy McCain’s business interests.
Did that include Cindy and her father’s $359,100 investment in Keating’s shopping center project?
And what about Keating & Associates’ “perfectly legal” $112,000 contribution to John’s campaign fund? I suppose that had already been spent getting John reelected. Just water under the bridge, or over the dam, or whatever…
In the end, McCain was cleared by the Senate Ethics Committee of acting improperly or violating any law or Senate rule, but was mildly rebuked for exercising “poor judgment”.
It was obviously poor decision on his part, but I think Obama runs the risk of having his own “issues” rising up. If you are involved with shady people, it will eventually bite you in the butt.
We await to see the same thing regarding Senator Obama’s dealings with Tony Rezko, CAC, Acorn, and whatever else is waiting to surface.
As for your conclusion below that Obama doesn’t have it in his DNA to go negative, I think you’re obviously a kool aid drinker.
Obama and his minions treatment of Hillary during the primaries was horrific. He should be grateful she’s even speaking to him at this point. He most certainly doesn’t deserve any generosity.
Alas, the consensus is that Obama will have a harder time attacking John, because “personal attacks just aren’t in Barack Obama’s DNA”. I’m afraid that really does put Obama at a decided disadvantage when it comes to mud-and-shit-slinging.
Since the republicans are obviously going to go that route pedal-to-the-metal, he’ll probably need to allow that sort of war to be waged through surrogates.
A hard-hitting VP would be very helpful.
Of course, the other killer combo would be Obama and Clinton together on the ticket. Hillary is tough. And it wouldn’t play very well if the McCain campaign was forced to turn their smear machine on Hillary.
I won’t be caught totally unawares if that turned out to the the surprise democratic strategy to deal with all the lies.
the huge amt of cash funnelled thru acorn by the obama campaign for “sound systems” totalling over 600 tousand dollars is very suspicious and it is my belief that these funds were then channeled to john edward’s atty fred Baron for use in thr Reille Hunter lovechild coverup. Fred baron is also a major Obama fundraiser and John Edwards has a very close relationship with Acorn! follow the money!
Fishy does not begin to describe the smell coming from all the money The One has run thru ACORN.
Nobama!!
Note that the only caucus state that Hillary won was Nevada, and this was because she was able to mobilize the service union in time to take a caucus win. However despite her caucus win, she did not claim delegate lead in that state. So in essense, she ‘lost’ the only caucus state she won.
Obama is NOT democratically elected. Obama, his supporters and DNC leaders, gamed the primary to select him as the nominee.
Would love to hear more about “group dynamics”:
So we could know what to watch out for during the floor vote …
Con men manipulate on an emotional level.
So if you see people responding emotionally — then this is a good indication that “techniques” are being used.
The idea is to get a “group” to act as a mob — to respond on a primitive stimulus.
People can often be made to do things as a group that as lone rational adults they would never do.
My guess is that the trained Obama authoritarians will be training how to manipulate the primitive emotions — but the individuals will not be seen as part of the Obama group.
The manipulators will be among the delegates (could be delegates for Hillary — but are really undercover Obamabots) — and the will be working from within. But they will be getting their orders from the puppet masters.
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The real Hillary delegates seem to be working from logical part of their brain — Obamabots are working from a primitive (illogical) part of their brain.
WE have several people with Psychology degrees etc.
Brainstorming on how to identify the undercover Obama players at the convention might be helpful for people attending.
What The Heck Is The Alinsky Method? Being Used To Destroy Our Freedoms
By Albert V. Burns
The education establishment in this country, at all levels, continually decries the absence of parental involvement in the everyday process of educating the young people of this country. We are asked to volunteer time to ease the burdens on the teachers. We are NOT expected to assume that we will have any input into decisions effecting what they will be taught or how the teaching process is to be done.
In the book, “Educating For The New World Order,” the author, Bev Eakman points out repeatedly the necessity of the educationists to preserve the ILLUSION that there is: “Lay, or community, participation in the decision making process, while in fact lay citizens are being squeezed out.”
It is interesting, and EXTREMELY important to Americans, both as parents and as citizens, to clearly understand just HOW the “squeezing out” process takes place. It is a well defined, if not well perceived, process known as the “Alinsky Method” (which was derived from a procedure named as “The Delphi Technique.”) This method of manipulating people is based on the fact that people in groups tend to share a common knowledge base and display certain identifiable characteristics known as “group dynamics.”
In this process, one or more people known as “Change Agents” or “Facilitators” appear to be acting as organizers, “allowing” each person in the group to express their concerns about some program or policy under consideration. While this process is going on, people are urged to make lists or form into task forces. The Facilitator carefully notes which members of the group are leaders, which are “loud mouths” and which may be easily swayed to different viewpoints.
At a certain point, the previously friendly Change Agent begins to act as “devil’s advocate,” becoming an agitator. The process involves playing one part of the group against another, the “divide and conquer” technique. Anyone who is not clearly in accord with the Facilitator’s agenda is made to appear ridiculous, inarticulate, ignorant or dogmatic. The idea is to make these members of the group angry thus escalating tensions. The end object being to shut opposition voices out of the group.
The “targets” of such manipulation rarely, if ever, realize how they are being manipulated. If they do suspect, they generally have no idea how to defeat the process.
This method is being used at all levels of government to force meetings toward PRESET conclusions. There are three steps to defeating this process. They are simple to learn, if not always easy to put into practice since the Facilitators are well trained in agitation techniques.
The first rule is: Always be charming, pleasant and courteous. SMILE! Speak in a normal voice to avoid seeming to be belligerent or aggressive.
Rule No. 2 is to STAY FOCUSED! Write your question or statement down in advance to help you stay on track. These Change Agents are trained to twist the conversation around to make the questioner appear foolish or belligerent or aggressive. The idea being to put the questioner on the defensive. Be careful! As mentioned in Rule 1, always be charming, pleasant and courteous (if it kills you to do so!) Often an attempt will be made to change the subject, digress or distort your intent. Always bring them back to the question you asked! If they distort your question into what amounts to an accusation of them, simply state clearly and precisely: “That is NOT what I stated. What I asked was… “(Here, repeat your original question.) Do not be distracted or angered by their efforts to make you look bad.
Rule No. 3: BE PERSISTENT! When the Facilitator realizes that putting you on the defensive is not going to work, quite often he, or she, will go into some long drawn out discussion of some unrelated or only vaguely related subject. Such a discussion may drag on for a number of minutes. The intent being to have the crowd become bored and forget what the original question was. Let them run on, then very calmly, quietly but with determination drag them back to the subject by saying: “But you didn’t answer my question! My question was… “(again, repeat your question.)
Never, NEVER allow yourself to become angry. Anger directed toward the Change Agent makes him or her the victim. Their object is to become liked by the crowd, to be seen as a friend by a majority of those present to convince that majority the ideas of the Facilitator are correct and acceptable.
With the increasing demand for education reform, increasing agitation among the public and more and more grassroots research exposing the defects in our current government indoctrination centers, also known as public schools, more and more people are being exposed to this Alinsky method of maneuvering public meetings toward preset goals. Somehow, people walk out of public meetings wondering just what happened — how were their ideas and objections so neatly derailed. This consistent pattern of manipulation of public meetings is causing concern about the corruption of the very process of government established by our Founding Fathers.
Next week we will examine some of the finer points of the Delphi Technique, how and why it was originally developed and how it is being used to destroy our freedoms.
Albert V. Burns writes from Utah and is a regular columnist for the Spanish Fork Press. He has an extensive knowledge of the conspiracy which has been working so hard to destroy this nation and incorporate it into a one world government. He has developed an extensive personal research library and the knowledge to find what he needs, to write his columns. He is a regular columnist for Ether Zone.
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Ah …. here is how to counteract — or defeat the Alinsky or Delphi method:
How to Diffuse the Delphi Technique
Three steps can diffuse the Delphi Technique as facilitators attempt to steer a meeting in a specific direction.
1. Always be charming, courteous, and pleasant. Smile. Moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.
2. Stay focused. If possible, jot down your thoughts or questions. When facilitators are asked questions they don’t want to answer, they often digress from the issue that was raised and try instead to put the questioner on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Courteously bring the facilitator back to your original question. If he rephrases it so that it becomes an accusatory statement (a popular tactic), simply say, “That is not what I asked. What I asked was . . .” and repeat your question.
3. Be persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn’t work, facilitators often resort to long monologues that drag on for several minutes. During that time, the group usually forgets the question that was asked, which is the intent. Let the facilitator finish. Then with polite persistence state: “But you didn’t answer my question. My question was . . .” and repeat your question.
Never become angry under any circumstances. Anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator the victim. This defeats the purpose. The goal of facilitators is to make the majority of the group members like them, and to alienate anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda. People with firm, fixed beliefs, who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe in, are obvious threats. If a participant becomes a victim, the facilitator loses face and favor with the crowd. This is why crowds are broken up into groups of seven or eight, and why objections are written on paper rather than voiced aloud where they can be open to public discussion and debate. It’s called crowd control.
At a meeting, have two or three people who know the Delphi Technique dispersed through the crowd so that, when the facilitator digresses from a question, they can stand up and politely say: “But you didn’t answer that lady/gentleman’s question.” Even if the facilitator suspects certain group members are working together, he will not want to alienate the crowd by making accusations. Occasionally, it takes only one incident of this type for the crowd to figure out what’s going on.
Establish a plan of action before a meeting. Everyone on your team should know his part. Later, analyze what went right, what went wrong and why, and what needs to happen the next time. Never strategize during a meeting.
A popular tactic of facilitators, if a session is meeting with resistance, is to call a recess. During the recess, the facilitator and his spotters (people who observe the crowd during the course of a meeting) watch the crowd to see who congregates where, especially those who have offered resistance. If the resistors congregate in one place, a spotter will gravitate to that group and join in the conversation, reporting what was said to the facilitator. When the meeting resumes, the facilitator will steer clear of the resistors. Do not congregate. Instead gravitate to where the facilitators or spotters are. Stay away from your team members.
This strategy also works in a face-to-face, one-on-one meeting with anyone trained to use the Delphi Technique.
Lynn Stuter is an education researcher in Washington state. Her web site address is http://www.learn-usa.com/.
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Here is a link to some videos from Camp Obama from last year:
http://campobama.blogspot.com/
The videos are pretty long so I haven’t listened to much of them but what immediately struck me are the frequent mentions in the explanations below the videos of learning how to tell “stories of self” in order to “relate to voters on a deeper emotional level”. There is also emphasis on leadership teams rather than just leaders. I have no background in psychology or group dynamics but I wonder if the teams are used in order to assure that no one gets off message.
See you don’t need a degree in psychology — just maturity and the ability to see what is happening.
My guess is that you are correct about the team work.
See the articles I’ve posted on the Alinsky method and the Delphi techniques above.
My theory is that these will be the methods that the Obama/Soetoro thugs will be using to intimidate Clinton’s delegates next week.
isn’t the reason that the UN sends monitors all over the world to dubious elections and all the hooplah was made over the purple ink stained fingers of voters in Iraq…isn’t the reason SUPPOSED to be keeping voter fraud in abeyance
who is accountable here in the States?
How is this allowed to go on?
Can anything other than this fabulous reporting be done to stop these traitorous democracy despising Oblowme supporters?
That’s exactly what I want to know. How can these elections take place if there are not objective observers there to make sure proceedings are conducted according to rules and regulations? It’s highly irresponsible of the DNC that these are handled by volunteers and there is no accountability. This is the precursor to the Presidency!!
And I had read earlier that Clinton lawyers had collected affadavits re: people’s experiences: who has that information and why hasn’t the DNC been confronted with it?
This is outrageous, and makes me sick to my stomach to read it. And people wonder why we refuse to vote for this fraud!
I have written this story a thousand times about what I saw in Iowa. I went there for one day trips with groups but over the New Years weekend I took a wonderful drive from Chicago. On the 3 hour drive, I saw at least 40 buses with Barky signs going my direction. There were 2 land highways at points in the trip and it was scary with all the buses. Since I did not stay for the caucus I can not swear to non residents participating, but I can certainly tell you I saw more people for Illinois in Iowa than were on the steets of downtown Chicago.
Now if they want to investigate fraud in the primary look no further than Indiana especially Gary. We reported 100’s of violations to HRC campaign.
The caucuses were very disorganized in Kansas. The Precinct Captain for Hillary did not show up at Precinct 26 in Derby KS. Never having run a caucus nor worked at a polling place I took charge! We had problems with the count….don’t know why but I was allowed a recount….probably because I forced the recount! It still stunk….
Don`t worry about Russia and Syria…. Obama is on the job.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Thank you so much Dr. Long, and also Peniel Cronin, for your work making this situation understandable. I hope that you might be joined soon by some psychologists who could bring up the marketing and media propaganda, and how they added to this sorry mess. I see a lot of knowledge being used for a bad end, what a shame the energy didn’t go to a better purpose.
By tomorrow, you guys will all eat your own Obama hate. Once Obama selects Hillary as his running mate, watch 90% of the NQ posters turn pro-Obama. LOL!
what?! Jesus could be on that ticket and I’d still HELLLL NOOO. When will you get it, we are voting against your flawed and fraudulent candidate.
Vinnie:
The bots are not programmed for your negative response. I’m with you–I will only vote for a democrat if it is HRC. Otherwise it is McCain.
He is not going to pick her. Narcissists are notorious for taking “their own” for granted.
I think Barack Obama will pick Hillary. Obama is known for his graciousness, and also an ability to bring people. He will select Hillary, even though she doesn’t deserve it.
LOL.
God I hope not. Destroying her political carrer as he destroyes his own is just wrong.
LEAVE HILLARY ALONE!
Take Kaine. With his Killer Clowns from Outerspace Face, hair and grin he is perfect for Obama.
If Obama picks Hillary it will be for one reason and one reason only. He is tanking. He now realizes that the votes he “didn’t need” are now very much “needed”. I hope to god he doesn’t pick Hillary. I don’t think even Hillary can drag his sagging ass out of the quicksand he is in. I doubt he would win even with Hillary.
No, he can’t win at this point. According to CNN and Fox tonight, only 1/2 of Hillary’s supporters will vote for BO. That means 9million have a problem with him. CNN (even) says 1 in 5 of Hillary supporters are already on board for Mac.
We might see an Obama/Clinton ticket for the simple reason that it would be the strongest possible democratic ticket.
A lot of focused, level-headed democrats still believe that the basic goal of the 2008 presidential election is to elect a democratic president, and bring a long-overdue end to 8 years of destructive republican policies.
Democrats wanting to elect a democrat… Is this so difficult to understand?
Except that Obama isn’t a Democrat. I used to think that I’d love to see Clinton/Obama….now, I don’t want Barry and his thugs anywhere near the WH.
Obama is an Obamacrat. It’s because he’s a narcissist. He can’t belong to anything that doesn’t revolve around him.
freedom fighter….
if obaby “picks” Hillary as veep, trust it is only because she has given him permission to do so. it will not be, as you say, because he is gracious and has an ability to bring people together. your description of his generosity is a hallucination brought on by kool-aid withdrawal.
good luck with that. it’s gotta be a big hurty for you.
stop fighting freedom Mr. Freedom Fighter. You can’t pull the Hopium Hoodwink on all of america because Freedom Of Speech is going to get all the truth out about obama.
Don’t fight it.
He’s “known for it” because he says is, but it is a lie. What graciousness? His rude and condescending behavior during the primaries? His negative campaigning disguised by “new politics” mantras? And when does he bring people together exactly? He can’t even unite his own party. These are all myths Axelrod sells, but Obama’s actions have never demonstrated any of these qualities. Go back to your vat of Kool Aid.
LOL, Obama is known for his graciousness?? Are you trying to be funny?
ROFL. Seriously, I fell off the couch laughing when I read “Obama is known for his graciousness.” Oh, God. I can’t breathe!
No, really. That was funny.
You mean, he doesn’t deserve her on his ticket. if Obama picked Hillary, as an astute professional, she probably said, shove it. Because, with or without Hillary, that is exactly what many will continue to say.
Are you NUTS? MO and BO HATE Hill and Bill. Hill and Bill upstage them because they’re both 1000 times more intelligent and QUALIFIED than MO and BO and MO and BO KNOW IT.
Hillary’s too damn good for that loser anyway. Why should she ruin her political career by being on his LOSING ticket? He’s in a slow burn as I type. He’s IMPLODING. Anyone with a brain knows he can’t win and knows he won’t win. Certainly, Hillary Clinton knows that.
Not a chance. He could pick Hillary or even Bill Clinton and I wouldn’t vote to elect Obama as president.
Hell I wouldn’t hire him to manage my business…i sure as hell am not going to vote to let him mismanage our country.
Just Say No
To Barrack H (H stands for Jimmy Carter) Obama
If she allows him to select her (which is how you should phrase it), I will feel that it is part of a deeper game that she has knowledge of. I do not, actually, think she’s in it for the glory or power, so she would not take it to be basking in his reflected glory. (Ha ha, what a picture of his “glory.”)
OMG I would never vote for that fraud Hillary or not!
No way, not even with Hillary
If he thinks he can “hoodwink and bamboozle” us, he will be waiting till HELL freezes over. If Hillary accepts V.P. spot, then she loses all my respect.
NO F’N DEAL
Like the first overqualified woman veep is a landmark achievement. She’s already been the First Lady. Twice.
FF, not all of us will go. Maybe 2%. That still is enough to sink obama. HRC is too smart to play second fiddle to an ineligible, unqualified, racist dufus. you’ll be eating yoru words when he selects his plagerizing buddy Biden. Or the pro war Bayh–you know, the vote that obama said was his hardest vote (when he wasn’t in the senate), or a pro-lifer Kaine.
Freedom,
I don’t hate Obama, I don’t like his policies, and yes I do get mad at remarks. But I wouldn’t have voted for him had Hillary not ran. I have my favorites, just being honest, I really hadn’t ever heard of him until this election. Shame on me for not watching the last convention, but I didn’t. I was out of the loop, dealing with a son at war, so I wasn’t as into politics as I would have been.
What I hate is the fighting everyone is doing, and I have contributed as well, guilty. But, please try and understand being called a racist was like getting my face slapped over and over, by a really good friend. I didn’t understand it, and I don’t now. I support your vote for Obama, and I really hope you can not hold it against anyone for their choice of vote. We have all been angry for too long, over so many things starting with 9-11, the invasion of Iraq and with nowhere to put that anger. Let’s just support each other in our choices, because you and I both know if our shores were invaded and we were standing next to each other, you could count on me to stand with you, not against you.
I don’t know Barry personally….But I hate what Barry represents….FASCISM
*** JUST SAY NO TO FASCISM…BAD FOR THE HEALTH OF CRITICAL THINKERS
No matter who the VP is, I will not vote any ticket that has olyingcheatingd=fraudoffrauds on it. No one. Not Hillary, not me, not my dead father brought back to life, no, no, no. It would not be good for Hillary.
To be honest, if Hillary got the nomination and picked oliemyassofa as her VP, I would not vote for that ticket either. why? I would lose all respect for Hillary to not expose him as what he really is to his voters and get him gone! She would just be pandering to his voters and that is not the Hillary I believe in!
There is no scenario in which we will vote for Obama. Hillary as VP is a completely wrong relationship since she is the more intelligent and stronger of the two. He is an underling not a leader. I wouldn’t even want him as her VP.
I agree Annie.
If Obama picks Hillary, we’ll just keep working on ways to make him have to step down…his Edwards moment.
Then Hillary will be where she belongs…top of the ticket.
Remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nROKBU_KlZw&eurl=http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/texas_videos/
its dawned on me that the totals they were giving the american people, stating they had enough superdelegates to elect obama was false. they just made up a number to tell the newsdopes. they really didn’t have as many delegates as they said.
i wonder how many delegates they really had when they said they had the magic #. i bet hillary really had that magic # and not obama. they just switched the delegate votes before anyone voted.
You know, I did not know how to ‘find’ that video again, and I agree. I believe they even ’stole’ the number of pledged delegates this way. I also believe this was why they did not want her on the first ballot with a roll call vote. The numbers are not really there for them, and that’s why they started cajoling/threatening folks to switch. My hunch is this roll call vote will NOT be transparent because of the things that occurred this election cycle, things that this video makes apparent.
Thanks for posting the link Phishmelt. Who do you think Hillary will chose as her VP?
Neither candidate had enough Pledged Delegates to win the nomination. What the BO campaign and the MSM did was add the Super Delegate and Pledged Delegates together to get to a bogus number to hoodwink and bamboozle the masses.
I saved this (the numbers could have changed since I saved this…they make the numbers up as they go along):
I love how the MSM and talking heads and the DC elites and the DNC have changed the narrative of this race. When this primary began, all we heard was each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee…each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee….each candidate needs 2025 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee…
Then FL and MI were seated and the number went up to 2118 PLEDGED DELEGATES to be the nominee (? I think that’s the current number.. they change it every day) and NOW, those numbers/RULES are IGNORED they are using the SUPER DELEGATES to get to that number (2118) WHICH IS BOGUS.
NEITHER candidate has the required PLEDGED DELEGATES to win the nomination. Everyone in the media knows this. Everyone in the media is LYING about this “process.”
Hillary has 1923 TOTAL Delegates (Pledged and Supers)
1637 = PLEDGED DELEGATES
286 = SUPER DELEGATES
BO has 2156 TOTAL DELEGATES
1762 = PLEDGED DELEGATES
394 = SUPER DELEGATES.
As you can see, which is clear to anyone with a brain, NEITHER CANDIDATE HAS THE REQUIRED 2118 PLEDGED DELEGATES. BO IS NOT THE NOMINEE
I also saved THIS (ticks me off every time I read it :():
Some Findings:
* 35.6 million people have voted
* The 37 primary states account for 97% of the vote.
* The 13 caucus states account for 3% of the vote.
Bottom line: Clinton’s lead is from 34.5 million voters (97%) in Primaries. Obama’s lead is from 1.1 million voters (3%) in caucuses.
BO is a FRAUD.
Thanks for this info, but it looks like you caused troll panic for ways to derail this conversation!
Yes, Hillary kept winning up till the end and they were at their wits’ end how to MTSBQ. Even to the point of simply taking some of Hillary’s delegates and just GIVING them to the dope who took his name off the MI ballot. And they still had to change the totals/goal line.
Hey you jerk-off cocksuckers!!
WHY don’t you take fight to the streets of Denver!
http://bit.ly/stop-obama
We are not the ones you are waiting for sweetie.
Its the Obama supporters who threatened riots if the $uperdelegates didn’t select Obama.
Green Hill..Hey is that a take off of Larry Sinclair in the black limo with Soetoro?
Ah, the lovely name calling of the O supporters. They are just such a lovely bunch of ‘humans’, aren’t they?
“Hey, You jerk-off cocksucker!” screamed Steve.
“Only, if its large, thick, African, Muslim, Marxist. uncircumsized Cock,” replied Stanley Anne. “Gotta some?!”
McCain has a new ad that mentions “Obama Housing Problem”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC2AlWy6CI&eurl=http://blogs.abcnews.com
McCain’s new ad is major weak sauce. I mean the same schtick has been playing on NQ for months now, and it hasn’t swayed one single person. What makes you think McCain playing reruns will make a difference? It’s over for McCain.
Your very presence on this site makes it only obvious that there’s trouble in obamabotland. Having a hard day, chuckles? I know your $0.05 per post doesn’t bring home much bacon, buts that’s what you bought into when you signed up for duty as a troll.
I always laugh when the Obutthead trolls try to come here and pass out koolaid.
Its like they think everybody is as stupid as the ones they find at Camp Messiah and is willing to buy the propoganda.
What they dont understand is you have to first be willing to suspend disbelief to buy the obullshit and they are preaching to the wroooooong congregation.
Its over for McCain….R I G H T…thats why its obama whose poll numbers are going down faster then a fat man’s pants on a jogging track.
American starts paying attention to the election around when the conventions are slated. Prior to that its mostly party faithful and pundits.
Thats why obama is startin to slide. And it only gets worse from here on out.
I think he might have enough voters without trying to sway new ones.
Most people have not been paying attention. Hillary brought up Rezko in the Iowa debate, and I remember CNN cut to blacks in the audience laughing. Everyone knows he’s guilty as sin, but it hasn’t become an issue until now. McCain as a Republican can attack Obama like Hillary couldn’t.
LOL! It’s “over for McCain.” Is that why he keeps tightening and even surpassing Obama in the polls–particularly the critical swing states? Do you even know how to read?
because its hitting the airwaves now, not just the internet, stooge. When people are losing their homes this kind of trash from OBama is going to get him nailed. Pride goeth before fall.
People are paying attention now, and we are well prepared to sink him.
looks like fact ck has brought out something on the BC — Anyone here have connection with the ones that were cking in it. but what is interesting is that Factck is owned by Annenberg organization.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
kinthenorthwest…
thanks for the heads up about “fact”check being an Annenburg site.
is there an end to this chicanery anywhere in the known universe????
the obamacoup really is an organized psi-op, isn’t it?
i’m over it.
nobama in november.
my vote for Mac is a vote against the Precious.
Man, everything is a conspiracy to you PUMAs. There’s no “there” there.
Everything Obama does is shady. You are HERE.
it makes so much sense. no one was really keeping track of ALL the delegates except maybe the dnc. man, they didn’t even pretend to play fair very well.
Attorney General Tells GA Delegates They Can’t Switch Their Vote At The Convention
URGENT SHOUT OUT - PLEASE READ-& CONFIRM OR REFUTE
BLOGGERS THIS NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED ASAP
http://georgiaunfiltered.blogspot.com/2008/08/attorney-general-tells-ga-delegates.html
Attorney General Tells GA Delegates They Can’t Switch Their Vote At The Convention
IS THIS TRUE???? A political blogger has confirmed with two members of the state’s Democratic National Convention delegation that Attorney General Thurbert Baker sent them a letter informing them that they could not switch their votes…
IS THIS GOING ON IN OTHER STATES? HOW WELL INFORMED OF THE PROCESS ARE DELEGATES?????
View the video’s released on August 9th 2008 by the Sam J
Ervin Jr, former chairman of Watergate commission, library and museum in Morgantown NC. According to producers, the DNC (with the support of the MSM) has perpetuated a crime and fraud against the American voters by claiming Obama as the presumptive nominee.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Superdelegates votes can not count until convention
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
*VERY IMPORTANT PART: Why Obama is not the presumptive nominee
- these videos are very educational, interesting, and well-researched and documented. People are indeed repeating history. What is happening in 2008 has happened several times in the past. Educate your fellow voters. Forward these links to others.
http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/
This is excellent site too
It won’t matter if they will or not. Hillary won’t be the nominee and she won’t be on the ticket unless he selects her for VP, which may not happen. Get over yourselves.
How was the food at camp?
Kelvin.
What color is your tongue?
ALl that koolaid you drink…ever wondered if it might be toxic? I don’t think the obama campaign did full testing on rats and got FDA approval.
Wow, is that why Obama’s lips are purple?
Be careful, Kelvin! I heard McCain’s people put this white powder stuff in bot kool aid!
A. Hillary B. McCain
You’ll be getting over yourself November 5th. It’s already there in the polls.
that’s fine by me, idiot. we’re talking about convention rules here, not OBama rules.
Barky can sink by himself. then you have only yourselves to blame, dont’ even think about whining about HRC. your guy did it to himself.
I told you to shower and go to bed. You stink and it’s way pass your bed time.
Kelvin,
What do you want us to do? Can we vote the way we choose?
Kelvin,
I’m serious; where do you want us to go after we get over ourselves; which I still don’t get what that is suppose to mean. I want you to vote for who you want, and think you have every right to, just like I do. Do you agree? I don’t think we are that different, I think the candidates we like are.
Doesn’t compute. This punk is here to interfere with the flow of information, nothing else.
Why the name calling? I just present counter arguments to your arguments. I certainly don’t resort to name calling. It’s not hard to have a rational conversation with other rational adults. I guess that’s what Mrs Obama meant about America being a downright mean country.
That’s fine. I’m not trying to sway you to vote for Obama. Just stop with the wild, unfounded accusations against him. Give him his props that he beat Hillary and didn’t cheat her. This guy did something amazing and you won’t give him credit for it. Instead, you accuse him of somehow stealing the nomination without a shread of cedible evidence to back it up. When I say “get over it”, I mean your sense of entitlement. You, like Hillary underestimated the guy, and were defeated. You couldn’t accept it, so you immediately assumed there was wrong doing. Yet, no evidence has emerged to support it. Hell, you don’t have to like the guy, just give him the respect that he deserves. Also, You’d be doing your county a huge disservice by voting for McCain. We will be in WWIII within 2 years if that guy get’s in. Vote Nader, Barr or McKinney. American can’t afford another 4 years of Neocon rule. It just can’t. P.S. I’d have voted for Hillary if she won. Obama or Hillary would be better than McCain at this point.
You didn’t write that. Cut and past.
No. I typed it.
Oh, the stench… Kelvin, you need to stop fueling your brain with that condescending coddling bs.
Kelvin,Which part of all this evidence by the “busloads” are you not reading about? This man has done nothing amazing except screw up his chances with anyone that was truly interested in him before,I was hoping he would be “refreshing”.Instead,he has evidently drained taxpayers money-yes Kelvin-our money,to be funneled in every way to croanies.If I wanted my money sent to crooks,I could have done that myself.The impression in your mind of what he is,has become a big was.PS-If I had to buy ipods for kids,and bus them and pay them to vote for me,I would feel humiliated.Wouldn’t you ? I love my country,work hard for what I have,and have pride in the fact that I have never had to rip off and lie to people to move up in the world.Like most people,so all the lies,stealing and threats do not set well with us.That is the fact Kelvin.
I have seen evidence presented by people who are biased against Obama. Please forgive me if I question it’s credibility.
Superb diary. Thank you.
Obama, his campaign people, his volunteers and many of his die heart voters are the ones destroying his chances.
The lies, the threats, the harrasment(not just bloggers), and the list goes on are making many think twice about who Obama is.
When you add in Obama’s overconfidence and audaciousness with some of the things he has said and done; as if he were already the president many are fearing who this man thinks he is.
I looks to me like Obama is able to tell his masters that he is going to win, because of things like caucus wins thru cheating and intimidation. In other words, we are sitting here watching Obama and his supporters steal a country and no one seems to be able to stop it.
How’s that fundraising going?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgcSvUWrUpQ&eurl
Oops.
It’s sad that Will Bowers and Darrah Murphy, leaders of the PUMA cultist, got on national TV an lied through their teeth about retiring Hillary’s debt. Sounds like you PUMAS don’t have Hill’s back after all.
Very nicely done. LMAO
very good!
thanks Lynette for the post and your hard work. This is just unbelievable what happened at the caucuses. I don’t get it. These asswipes rail on about Bush and what he did and they are doing the same thing! To treat people like that, it’s unacceptable.
Jeramiah ! I am howling !!!! I needed that ! Thanks a million !!!
Thanks for all your work, Dr. Long.
I hated my caucus, Obama supporters were aggressive and rude. I’ve never seen a caucus like that. It’s like people completely forgot basic manners. They tried to silence and intimidate the elderly, women, anybody that wasn’t supporting Obama. They called people liars, they shouted over people who were speaking. People in their 80’s. You just don’t do that.
We had tough Hillary supporters and fought for every delegate, but a whole lot of people were silenced. You could seem them huddled together in corners whispering their support for Hillary. Whispering! People were literally concerned about writing their name and home address down on a piece of paper that Obama supporters might have access to. I was handing out Hillary stickers and a some women put them on and hid them under their sweaters. They didn’t feel safe publically stating who they supported.
Nothing illegal happened (as far as I know). There were no direct threats or violence. But I know intimidation when I see it and this was definite intimidation.
That is despicable. How do you intimidate 80 yr. olds in the name of democracy?!!
Race Poll Results Spread
North Carolina InsiderAdvantage McCain 45, Obama 43 McCain +2
Ohio Rasmussen McCain 48, Obama 43 McCain +5
Florida Rasmussen McCain 48, Obama 46 McCain +2
National Gallup Tracking Obama 45, McCain 43 Obama +2
Indiana SurveyUSA McCain 50, Obama 44 McCain +6
National LA Times/Bloomberg Obama 45, McCain 43 Obama +2
National Reuters/Zogby Obama 41, McCain 46 McCain +5
National Reuters/Zogby Obama 39, McCain 44, Nader 2, Barr 3 McCain +5
Arizona Arizona State McCain 40, Obama 30 McCain +10
Missouri PPP (D) McCain 50, Obama 40 McCain +10
National Battleground Obama 46, McCain 47 McCain +1
Iowa Univ. of Iowa Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
Does this look like a winner to you?!
Obama will NOT win!
HAHAHA. I’m just remembering Michelle Obama in some interview being asked about whether her husband could defeat McCain, and she said, “Oh, we got him.” LMAO.
Wheres Kevin???Where is Kevin..por, poor BOT! Sip more of that kool-aid.
The bottom line is this. Obama is tied with McCain now. Once he becomes the official nominee then you are going to have around the clock tv and web videos showing Rev. Wright, Michelle Obama, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers etc. You are going to have Obama potrayed as a muslim, as a baby killer, and as someone who is surrounded by people who hate America in general. Right or wrong you are going to have Republicans 527’s playing on the fact Obama is black in a not so subtle way. His middle name will be used. The republicans and the republicans 527’s will be able to go places that the Clinton campaign never could, and when it comes time to vote,the majority of Americans is not going to vote for a black man who they have been told is a muslim america hating baby killer for 3 months straight. Like I said Obama is at best tied right now. (The fact he over polls means he might even be behind right now) and the republicans and the 527’s have yet to play hardball. The reality is that Obama is going to lose by a landslide. He cant win.
…the republicans and the 527’s have yet to play hardball…
what????
Are you kidding?
They haven’t even come out of the locker room yet.
Its going to be a total and utter destruction of the Odalilamma aka OMessiah aka Oblahblah.
They are going to be playing tennis with hand grenades and Obiteme doesn’t even have a racket.
But all the hand grenades are provided courtesy of Camp Koolaid and his past record of Boneheaded Bumbles.
“I’m Barack Obama and I’m Reporting for Doodad!”
another good one…you’re on a roll tonight. you’re also right on the money again. The Repub’s are going to take Obama apart piece by piece and he’ll come down so fast he won’t know what happened to him. Him and his thugs are so damn stupid to think everyone is just going to let all of this evil shit slide because they have so far. The Dem’s are morons and the Repub’s are just waiting to play their hand when the time is right.
Agreed, agreed, agreed.
I think every one of us who have any kind of foresight whatsoever — and who have paid attention to Republican campaigning over the past decade or so — have been saying this for months.
The GOP is masterful in the art of negative campaigning, and they are going to unleash on Barack Obama, who is probably the weakest candidate with the most skeletons in his closet of any candidate we could have run from the field we started with … and that includes John Edwards the adulterer.
I mean, I’ve turned my back on the party not just because of the misogyny, but also because allowing Obambi to fraud and foul his way to the nomination is just plain stupid. Like kindergarden stupid. Like a-loss-is-guaranteed stupid. I mean extra stupid with more stupid on top!
I see the 50 state strategy forming.(On the republican side.)
I like to check this website for poll numbers but also the electorial college projections.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
McCain has been ahead in electorial votes a few times, but now they’re basically tied. The problem is, this is August. On this same date a few years ago, Kerry was 53 points ahead of Bush.
And very importantly, these numbers don’t take into account all of the MANY that are undecided. My guess is 85% of those will go McCain. I predict a blowout of huge proportions, and see the O winning only 5 states - HI, CA, OR NY and IL.
you forgot DC, though not a state, they tend to vote for the loser more often than not.
Obama and his campaign - all a bunch of thugs. Right out of Chicago. That is why the world is laughing at us. How embarrassing. Never Ever Obama.
McCain or Hillary 08
John Mccain got his homes the American Way. Obama got his home by allowing an indicted, convicted, felon, slum lord TONY rezKo to rent substandard apartments to poor urban communities and giving him a portion of the profits to help him buy land.
This stupidity about McCain’s houses shows Obama’s desperation. McCain has lived in Washington, DC, without his family, for years because he places his service first. He travels back and forth to AZ to see them on weekends. He is not living large off of his wife–he is busy in DC focusing on legislation, whether you agree with his positions or not. His YEARS of experience speak for themselves. Obama has nothing but platitudes to run on, so he grasps at straws.
Uh huh. So why is it that John McCain tops the list for the most votes missed of any United States Senator? He’s so busy “focusing on legislation” that he hasn’t got the time to vote on over half of it?
John McCain has missed 407 votes (63.8% of all votes) during the 110th Congress. He has cast only 231 votes. (Kind of makes you wonder, since he lives right there in DC.)
Obama has cast 348 votes. 117 more than John McCain, for the same period.
I have to go. Good night and sleep tight, PUMAs.
LULZ. Its 8pm and its Kelvin’s Bedtime…hahaha
I think we just discovered a little TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
KIDS FOR OBAMA!!!
Obabies for Obambi?
no the obama campaign has a section on their site called Kids for Obama. The tell the kids they know they cant vote but they have activities for them to do like make posters and hang them in their schools and pressure their parents to vote obama.
I’ve heard of it. There’s nothing so creepy as the mass indoctrination of children.
that’s too bad because Obarfykoolaidy is in favor of infanticide.
Time difference. It’s later in Gaza.
JM08
Absolutely–they’re just waiting for him to be officially nominated. Another thing if Hillary agreed to such a far fetched notion as being the veep for that idiot, if he did self destruct and have to drop out wouldn’t she automaticaaly be the nominee? The caucuses were his only hope of faking the numbers in the long run to ‘look as if’ he was ahead, he knew she would sink him in the primary states. It’s funny the organizations that are working for him to register voters and who are advertising in the help wanted sections of newspaper are all run by white people. I went on one of their websites and the leaders are affiliated with moveon.org, and are from ‘elite’ universities. Where are the African Americans, not one photo of an African American.
Comment by fif | 2008-08-21 20:03:44
This stupidity about McCain’s houses shows Obama’s desperation. McCain has lived in Washington, DC, without his family, for years because he places his service first. He travels back and forth to AZ to see them on weekends. He is not living large off of his wife–he is busy in DC focusing on legislation, whether you agree with his positions or not. His YEARS of experience speak for themselves. Obama has nothing but platitudes to run on, so he grasps at straws.
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Remember guys that Cindy McCain is part owner or owner of one of the biggest beer companies in the USA. There is no telling how much real estate is technically attached to her, due to the company and the family.
McCain was trying to just give the most honest answer he could.
Patsy and Sugar were just talking about this and saying who cares how many homes McCain have…that’s the American Dream and it’s stupid for Obama’s campaign to even try to make an issue of it.
Funny that the same people who are making a stink about McCain’s homes never brought this up regarding Kerry. Another thing, Michelle Obama said that this was Barak’s last chance to run for President because they would be too rich and out of touch after this election. So I guess they aspire to being rich landlords someday! I wonder if the McCains purchased their “homes” in the same manner as the Obamas purchased theirs? Does Rezko have an office in Arizona? LOL.
The point of the criticism is that John McCain is so wealthy and so far removed from the mainstream that he has no acutal grasp of the economic concerns and daily financial realities of the vast majority of American voters.
Something like the average American’s concern over the cost of filling up the tank of the family car, for example, is only an abstraction for John McCain. The average American might be balancing the costs of gasoline and family grocery money. The visceral meaning of that doesn’t actually register with a guy who routinely drops over 500 bucks on a pair of loafers.
And Obarky isn’t out of touch with America? ROFLMAO. Your selective indignation is showing again but you just keep on believing, Chester.
Obama showed you the wool.
But you let him put it over your eyes.
Obama and his wife were basically middle class Americans bringing up two kids on the money they earned from their jobs until the time of his recent book success.
McCain hasn’t had to worry about personal or family finances since 1980–prenuptuals notwithstanding. His second wife never has.
hahahahaha! Give it up!!! Get over it!!! “…basically middle class Americans….” hahahaha!
hahahahahahahahaha!!! I’m still laughing sorry! hahahahahaha!
Well, I’m only applying John McCain’s definition of “rich”. That takes an income of $5 million a year? (Another little joke.)
Obama’s personal finance profiles are available for 2004 and following:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?CID=N00009638
After 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 12 years as a univeristy professor, he had total assets valued somewhere between $200,000 and $400,000. (Presumably his net worth was considerably less. Most people tend to owe money on their assets–mortgages, car loans, credit card loans, etc.) He had annual gross income of $112,431. He was doing damn good my my humble standards, but was still not what most would call rich. I’m sure he and Michelle could still remember what it was like to be living on a lot less.
My God how could he afford Arugula on that meager salary never mind qualify for a loan on a 1.6 million dollar mansion?
5 years ago when i was buying a house and making 118K, my reasonable limit on housing purchase was 240K, and with the taxes and mortgage and insurances associated with the purchase, i wasn’t comfortable going any higher.
Barry Should Thank his lucky shady stars for Fairy Godmother Tony Rezko!
Obama’s financial situation was dramatically improved by the success of his most recent book. That’s how he qualified for the loan.
Maybe Tony Rezko secretly bought a million copies of Obama’s book on Amazon. Somebody should check that out…
Hey Wondering:
Now you gettin it Willis!
Stop the hate!
Oh i thought it might have been because the Hospital where Bitterella aka Michelle was working decided to suddenly give her a ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PLUS RAISE BECAUSE BARRY GOT INTO THE SENATE AND COULD STEER SWEETHART FUNDING THEIR WAY!!!! which he also did.
Bitterella! HAHAHA. Obama made 4 million last year! He’s almost there, and he’s only on his first US Senate term. Please let him know THE PRESIDENCY IS ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE.
Listen, you don’t have to be “rich” to be arrogant and out of touch! Obama is a narcissist! He’s out of touch because, well…. he’s touched! Yes, I’m saying he’s mentally ill. Narcissists do not connect with people. And that is why he will lose.
Obama is from Hawaii.
He went to school at Occidental in California.
That makes sense.
How did he end up in Columbia?
Haven’t figured that one out yet.
However, how did he end up in Chicago?
That one I have figured out.
Frank Marshall Davis!
Frank was very well embedded in the movers and shakers of Chicago even after he went to Hawaii. He was Obama’s “letter of introduction”.
And then there was John McCain’s close friendship and his highly questionable dealings with Charles Keating…the guy whose Lincoln Savings and Loan scam cost thousands of hard-working Americans their entire life savings.
What about John’s close connections with Phil Gramm? That’s all a lot more recent. Phil Gramm gave us the Enron Loophole, that once again cost thousands of hardworking Americans their entire life savings. He also removed regulations that led to the recent sub-prime loan disaster. John took Phil on as his top economic advisor early in his 2008 presidential campaign. This is like going to an arsonist who started a conflagration for advise on how to put the fire out.
In the Keating Five Scandal, John was ultimately only given an official reprimand for showing “very poor judgement”.
His selection of Phil Gramm was probably only another case of “very poor judgement”.
On the other hand, you keep saying that McCain’s long experience and solid judgement are his big selling point.
What about Randy Scheunemann?
Well, that’s probably just another rare case of…
hahahaha! Still can’t close the deal with your hopey/changey “new kind of politics” unifying candidate can you??? hahahaha!! That’s because hes none of those things?? He’s just a narsissistic, inexperienced, empty suit!! So now you have to trash talk McCain!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
NObama in NOvember!!!
Well hell lets talk about Reverenad Kill Whitey Wright, Bill Bomb America Ayers, and all the Links to militant islamic groups next shall we?
Oh wait let me get the ball rolling by mentioning THE ONE THAT MUST NOT BE MIDDLE NAMED
H U S S E I N
Come on, everybody knows McCain led the charge on the senate investigations on Keating % and has bent over backwards to make sure nothing like that could ever implicate him in any way by keeping it clean and above board.
Obama? how did he handle it? He MOVED THE DNC TO CHICAGO TO MAKE SURE HIS THUGS HAD FULL CONTROL.
THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION THE ONE WHO THOU SHALL NOT MIDDLE NAME!!
See kids this is your brain on koolaid.
God, i think as much as McCain may oppose socialized medicine, they may have to do it anyway because of all of the Post-Traumatic-Obama-Koolaid-Drinking-Syndrom survivors that will litter our landscape on November 5.
I wonder how his Harvard education got paid ? wasn’t scholarship as first reported.I am putting my son through now and its very expensive,and its not Harvard.He sure is lucky alot huh ? Any ideas ?
For an simple yet indepth analysis with pictures of How Obama Got Punked on the whole How Many Houses Does John McCain Have debacle that has nothing to do with what concerns Americans and is exactly the type of distraction that OMessiah is always complaining about and then pulling out of his ass, go here:
exurbanleague.com/2008/08/21/excuse-me-but-your-flank-is-showing.aspx
Suffice it to say that when you throw a political professional in the tank with a political lightweight overly enamored with the growing nose on his own face and too deeply invested in believing his own hype, you are bound to see shtoopid amature mistakes like falling for this bait and switch happen.
Poor Obambi Played like the fool he is.
After all there is nothing illegal about the houses McCain has but what about that Hyde Park Hideaway that Rezko Helped you finance in more ways than one?
PUNKED AGAIN SENATOR AUDACITY!
Come on Barry, play time is over, drop out and let the adults play.
Rezko didn’t help finance a single nickel of the Obama’s home purchase.
That was fully investigated, owing to all the allegations that he had.
Actually yes he did.
Stop lying.
There is plenty of info on the net.
Oh yeah
one more Fact: Barry is gonna lose. Get Over It!!!
Sources? Stop being a lazy troll and go do the google search for yourself. Its out there. Its just not on BacrackheadObullshittingthePublic.com.
Good job Jeremiah! But the trolls aren’t lazy…you know, they’re being paid to spew the Oblah propaganda. They are propaganda machines.
yeah i know. he probably wont come back to touch this.
He will move on to the next Adolf Axelfraud Fauxbama talking point on the sheet pinned next to his monitor in his cubicle at fight the smears local 527.
I forget the order…what do they usually go to after Rezko?
is it Racism or the Vagina Scare tactic?
hmm..good question…Rezco hasn’t come up for awhile so I’m taxing my memory here…I’m gonna go with Vagina scare tactic. That seems to always follow something about McCain. Racism usually comes when we question Obama’s lack of experience, or where his b/c is or other records…or ask a question. So okay, i’m fully committed to this answer…Roe v Wade will be next!
Can your brain even begin to grasp this?
Why would rezko do all of this for Barry if this criminal who has been convicted of all kinds of crimes involving bribery coersion fraud etc didn’t expect something back?
Or was Rezko paying Barry back for helping him by reducing that kitchen cabinet from 15 members to 9 members of which 5 where stoolpidgeons who would rubber stamp any contract rezko brought to them?
Fact: Something STINKS and it ain’t Barry’s Feet!!
I figure Rezko did expect something back in return. I totally agree with you that Rezko is a slimeball. Rezko probably never did anything in his life without expecting something back. He cultivated relationships with anyone and everyone he thought might eventually help him. He probably tried to gradually draw people into his game, and get them dirty so he could hold that over them to draw them in even deeper. No doubt he was running that same modus operndi on Obama. I’m just not convinced he succeeded in moving the game far enough along to draw Obama into any seriously unethical compromise. If it turns out that I’m wrong, my belief that Obama is no worse than most politicians will be shattered. I’d feel betrayed, and be howling for his prosecution.
How about howling for him not being
nominated??selected?It was payback. GO do research on how rezko ended up getting indicted.
Really do yourself a favor and read it. If you are legitimately interested in knowing something other than How gosh darn good looking obama is and can tear yourself away from the Hope and Change long enough to learn about the Pump and Dump.
Correction…lets get rid of 6 people from that committee not 5.
Also bear in mind who got that plum committe control job in the senate for barry? Was it the same guy who said I’m gonna Make me a US Senator?
Why Lordy Lordy Yes It Was!!
OH By the way the board approved contracts by simple majority.
15 members = 8 votes needed.
new Barry Board:
9 Members = 5 in the pocket stoolpidgeons rubber stamping ALL DAY LONG!!!
They want to take this act to DC now. I shudder at the thought of those K Street crooks getting a rubber stamp Congress with Gimme Michelle and Jihad Barry in the White House. They’ll bankrupt this country.
“Just wondering,” thought Stanley Anne, idly to herself, during study hall. “Could I do a double penetration with Barrack and Uncle Frank Marshall. Pappy sure thinks I can! Just Wondering..”
Just Out to lunch wondering:
Really, thanks for the info. I’m changing my vote to Barky right now.
Just messin with ya man-
Stop the hate!
The training videos really piss me off. Caucuses stink and so does the Democratic party.
There were to have been at least two professionally created documentaries on the caucus problems for the Supers to see prior to the convention. Where are they and when will they “come out”?
Watching hannity and he just slammed Oworstcandidateevera about not giving money to his brother who lives on $1 per month. Hannity said if Obesostupidwhovoteforfraud will give him his brother’s address, Hannity will send the brother $1000.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You know I have always wondered why Obama would “brag” that his paternal grandmother lives in a shack. If he were McCain and let his grandmother live in a shack, he’d be scewered (rightly) as an insensitive, selfish creep. What’s that about? The only reason he gets to claim poverty credentials via his Kenyan relatives is because he lets them stay in poverty.
it supports his narrative about being a poor black child born in a manger.
LMAO!
He should have to sleep in a manger until he pays back everyone he has ripped off-which would be alot of nights wishing for a motel 6 !!!! Good one csuzeq !
I tell you what, if that fraud is coronated (or should we say acornated), PUMAs need to do a huge green rain for the McCain campaign!
I’ll definitely send as much cash as I can as I have some strong drinks!
Question: is what we’re witnessing in the Democratic party a split between the Soros-backed MoveOn faction and PUMAs?
Comment by JohninCA | 2008-08-21 21:31:03,
a split between the old 60’s leftests that ran the working class union members out of the party ……. I know, I’m both ……. I choose the union ……. Hillary was bring them back …
I’ll take a PUMA any old day over Move On or Soros.
Lets bring the really qualified Democrat back in the race before our country gets set back four more years. It is not to late super-delegates. Be a HERO. Be strong. Be Brave. Make history. Support Hillary.
Even before the RBC killed the democratic party 5/31, I often said that a good way to solve it was to take out republican votes. Then see who democrats chose. My guess is it would have easily been Hillary. I heard in Texas, 65% of republican votes went to Obama. There has been a controversy over who the dems for a day voted to help and the GOP said they wanted Hillary so they could beat her because they were afraid of Obama. Of course, people who said that dumb crap to me, I’d say, duh! If you were afraid of one of the candidates, would you really tell them which one? Duh! Well, of course some of those people are figuring it out that I was right. Duh! But in the future, I would hope we would do away with allowing republicans to vote in the democratic primary anyway and vice versa. The GOP should not decide the Dem nominee. If someone wants to cross party lines in the GE, that’s fine, but in the primaries? No. Hell, no. That is just game playing.
I have a brother in Texas…he’s a die-hard Republican (the only one in the family) and he said he voted for Obama in the primary. So “Operation Chaos” was to vote for Obama so that the weaker Democrat would face McCain.
That’s just common sense. I agree with you 100%.
BTW, I wrote to HRC’s campaign, the DNC and RBC many times to suggest that they remove any Republican votes to help their decision and I wrote multiple times to all.
So, is ANYONE looking into this besides our groups?
McCain has a basic flaw Obama doen’t share, that’s totally obvious and easy to explain to the American voters:
John McCain’s tax plan is designed to greatly benefit people who have very high income–like John McCain himself–at the expense of everybody else, and at the cost of increasing the federal deficit.
Barack Obama’s tax plan is designed to help the middle class and the poor, by shifting a fairer portion of the tax burdon back up to higher-income Americans. With his new level of properity from his book sale, Obama’s tax plan actually represents a measurable degree of personal sacrifice. Obama’s plan means that his own family would pay significantly higher taxes.
Obama’s plan is also fiscally responsible. It would decrease the federal deficit, where McCain’s plan would increase it.
The numbers don’t lie. That’s how the two plans compare. And that’s how the two candidates compare, when it comes to putting self interest ahead of or secondary to the national interest.
That’s one fundamental truth that you can plainly see if you look beyond the republican smoke screen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html
We’ve covered all of Obama’s tax plans here. Of course, they CHANGE from day to day like all of his proposed policies.
Heh. I liked how last week, newspapers were cheering there was a RESPONSIBLE tax plan from Obama. At last!
By this point, no one really cares. He will say or do anything to get elected. Obama earmarked 100 million for Rezko houses. 11 of those bldgs were condemned, and they’re in Obama’s district.
Obama did it with healthcare, too. He’ll screw you over, if you go along with his crooked health plan.
The man is a parasite and a narcissist. He’s in over his head assuming he actually wants to do the job, but it’s more likely he wants to be an icon and get rich at your expense. He would seriously damage the country as much if not more than Bush has.
“He will say or do anything to get elected.”
That’s not what I see. What I see is that there are people who will say or do anything to keep him from getting elected. They’ll push any lie and promote any vile rumor that serves that purpose. They’ll push them all, and switch their energy and attention to whichever currently seems to be working the best.
Such people lack all honor, all integrity, and all care and concern for either democracy or their country. Add to those flaws an enormous dose of hypocrisy, that allows them to see themselves as patriots.
So you thought it was OK for Republicans to vote for Bush just because he was a republican even when they knew he was a douche? Sorry, can’t do that. Country before party.
These are great stories and clearly illustrate the lack of ethics and morals on the part of Obama, many of his supporters and the new Democratic Party.
As a life long Democrat, I will vote for a Republican for the first time, if Hillary is not the Presidential nominee. I will not support this type of ruthless behavior coming from the new Democratic Party. But, this behavior is one reason why Obama will lose in November.
Country before Political Party.
The stories clearly illustrate the lack of ethics and morals on the part of people who are spreading them.
We’re witnessing a full-court attack on Obama in the form of a smear campaign. It’s the swiftboating of John Kerry, scaled up to the national level. It’s swiftboating on steroids.
All it takes are people with a lynch-mob mentality who have a complete disregard for the truth, access to media outlets, and purposeful ringleaders to stir the mob to action and incite it with a continuous stream of inflammatory lies.
The smear machine has them all, and the people using it will do anything it takes to keep a republican in the White House. They’ll bleed America dry before they’re done.
Nope. We’ve got a few days left to hope for a miracle. Otherwise there will be a Republican in the White House. If we wanted John Mccain as president, we would wait until after the convention to nail barky’s scrawney ass.
Looks to me like the Obamites and PUMAs are going to come to blows.
PUMAs headed for Denver are advised to pack their tasers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRJHTP7gNY0
Can we sue them? I mean, all of them?
[...] few, taken from Dr. Long’s diary yesterday at No Quarter: You can read the rest of her diary here and even more about Obama campaign caucus fraud here. FROM IOWA I live in Davenport, Iowa - [...]
No, his DNA is cheating, vote fraud, and disenfranchisement. Also, he’s only able to launch personal attacks at women, and McCain is a man.
And as for Hillary doing his “dirty work,” why should she? Is Michelle too busy?