“We Will Not Be Silenced”
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on August 23, 2008 at 6:33 PM in Barack Obama, Censorship, Chicago politics, Civil Liberties, Corruption, Delegates, Democratic Nomination, Freedom of Speech, Hillary Clinton, Hoodwinking, Indiana, Martin Luther King, Popular Vote, Superdelegates, Texas
Thanks to several alert readers here at No Quarter, I have learned about a new documentary on Caucus Fraud that is just coming out. “We Will Not Be Silenced, ” by Gigi Gaston, came into being according to their website because:
As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. “We the people” expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case. We believe that the The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners,” etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.
The preview, all 33 minutes of it, is compelling. In essence, it is a visual companion to the work of Dr. Lynette Long at Caucus Fraud and Peniel Cronin on Primaries and Caucuses (which will appear at NQ shortly). In short, it is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.
I invite you to watch the preview to this documentary, about which the authors said this:
This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign. We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama campaign “Chicago Machine” dirty politics. We believe this infamous campaign of “change” from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in “We Will Not Be Silenced.”
This documentary contains powerful, important information. I urge you to spread the word however you are able. Now is the time.
To view, CLICK HERE.
My deepest thanks to all of those at “We Will Not Be Silenced” for your commitment to democracy, to the rights of Americans, all Americans, to vote. Thank you for your courage and integrity in getting this critical information out. And thank you for bringing the voices of these Americans out for us all to witness
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Hey Anyone Remember This?
Joe Biden
by kos
Wed Jan 31, 2007 at 08:04:49 AM PDT
Really, if we live in a just world, this will be the end of Joe Biden’s political career. On Barack Obama:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
“Articulate”. “Mainstream”. “Bright and clean”.
It’s clear his career has dragged on one election cycle too many.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/31/11112/2465
Haha! Love it! Thanks fred!
our voices have been silenced and the cultists false messiah have brought done our one chance for a better world hillary clinton is not finished she wiill return and take back what she rightfully deserves slick barry hasnt fooled all of us we will resist we will triumph history will prove us right they may be content to casually associate with terrorists and infidels but we are not the media will not touch their favorite son they will not report on the bodies the murders the money that has been taken but others have and the truth will be known god prevails even over your false one justice may be slow but one day slick barry will face teh justice system for his sins how will you like it when your chosen one is in jail even if he asks for a change in venue we can believe in rezko wright carlson price all of them will come back to haunt him in the end we will be victorious hillary prevails
Hillary isn’t going to happen. You know it. I know it. The rest of the literate, and illiterate world knows it.
You people need to spend more time figuring out how to keep McCain out of office and less time flailing about over imagined wrongs. The thing that I noticed most during the primary was the many things that both Obama and Hillary had in common. Except for a few minor differences, they each wanted the same things for the country, and their differences were minor, at best.
So, you’ll have to admit, then, that you’ve got a candidate that will give you what you wanted from Hillary, but he just ISN’T Hillary. That’s counterproductive, and frankly, that kind of attitude should be reserved for sporting events.
This is our country, people, and I don’t care if kermit the frikkin’ frog is running it as long as his goals match up to mine and will help the country out of the mess that we currently find ourselves.
Quit it. Grow up. Use your energies to better the world.
Yes, this is why some of us keep referring to Obama’s caucus goons– they “took care of business” and that’s how he won.
Oh, fuck you all. I went to a caucus. Great experience. I think the primary states should all switch to the caucus system.
I went to a high school gymnasium. It could handle about 2000 people, and that’s about as many were there. Around 1600 for Obama, 300 for Hillary, 90 for Edwards, 5 for Kucinich, and 5 for Gravel. I sat there for four hours (and yes, there was plenty of accommodation for the disabled) to make my voice heard, and meet lots of great folks.
Now, I did all this on a snowy night in February in Kansas. Obama didn’t just beat Hillary statewide, he was in about a beat every other candidate combined.
Meanwhile, Michigan and Florida did a fake pussified primary vote that was never going to count, and you all are “Oh, popular vote! Popular vote!” Man, fuck the popular vote. The popular vote is for people who can’t do math. And the primary system is, especially in the designed-for-Hillary’s coronation by February 6 calendar they used, fucked.
Scrap the whole thing and go to caucuses. That way people that give a damn control the process.
yeah me and my bitterness and guns would work wonders at a caucus……………lmao
Your language skills match quite well with the image Obamabots have created for themselves.
Winning by cheating isn’t winning. The worst part is Obama and his lemmings have no shame at all.
Hope one thing we can count on in the GE is……..WINNER TAKE ALL.
PK,
Yes we can!
Living up to a typical Obama supporter how educated are we with a mouth like that?
and yes we will PK & Hope
I take it that you’ve never, ever sworn when someone is spouting off repeatedly about something they know absolutely nothing about?
Yes we MUST!
“Can” infers that we have an option. The stakes are way too high for “Can.”
THAT was funny, the republicans in our state say the exact same thing. Who gives a shit about one man, one vote? Fuck the founding fathers, right Ash? And you know those people who really cared about democracy thought is was cool to strong arm little old ladies and spew right wing talking points against Hillary and shout down opposing view points, but then they should win because they REALLY, REALLY cared? Right? Next time, if you really care, why not show up with your own armed militia, that will be the end all be all of caring.
Well Obama does advocate that civilian army of his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igDoHZ0hVUY
OT but did you all see how Obama introduced Biden today
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/08/23/obama-introduces-biden-next-president
Freudian slip, no doubt.
Hope, I read the comments section first before watching the speech and thought it was a joke about the next president Biden gaffe…I mean, seriously, this is one of the most important announcements Barky makes besides his acceptance speech and he effs it up? Uh…now we know how he can actually push the wrong button when voting. And we thought Bush was bad…
I’d laugh, but this guy is so inept it’s scary.
do you think bambam will accidentally vote for Hillary at the convention? If he does it will be the only good thing he’s ever done.
I’m beginning to get the feeling he’ll vote for her on purpose. He is scared to death that he’s bitten off more than he can chew.
Its obvious how he’ll vote…
present
Interesting, You just as easily could point to several other “Gaffe’s” that your “choice” made but you choose to ignore them. Continue down this path. It’s a free country and you can make that choice. By supporting someone other than the nominee you are clearly helping the effort for 4 more years of Bush. Until we have fair run-off elections, the situation will not change. Help Elect McCain, Go all PUMA on the scene. And Enjoy the Draft that McCain said he does not oppose, support the lobbiest from Georgia and let’s attack Russia, forget about Roe v Wade as he has stated that his revocation of this important case would be the “litmus” test for his first year in the office, and kick back and enjoy another year of 5 dollar plus gas.
I do not agree with nor do I agree with many of the positions of Biden, HOWEVER, you cannot just have your way in every discussion, and crying like spoiled children will only serve to continue the distruction of our nation.
Good Day.
Nice choice of vocabulary. Shows intelligence and class.
Studies have been done showing that many people are excluded from caucuses just through circumstance:
Older people with no available night transportation.
People who work retail.
Young mothers.
Peoople who work night shift.
People in the military.
In other words, lots of the people the Democratic Party is supposed to protect.
So before using the F word, think a little.
The caucus system is undemocratic and unDemocratic.
To be sure, his language was not appropriate. But the point behind his rudeness still stands. As a person that voted for Hillary in PA, I am voting for Obama because his policy stances are so close to hers.
Honestly, a Hillary supporter voting for McCain is like shooting yourself in the head because you’re unhappy with your haircut.
Ash, this one is for you and the One who holds your leash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6z_06dbWug&feature=related
Something is wrong with you, maybe you need medical attention or anger management classes.
the word Ash used was “control”. This not Democracy, this word means what John dean wote about.
NQR Request;…Anybody think they want to interview John Dean on this word?
John Dean wrote about.
I caucused in Colorado, in the most Democratic county in the state. The County chair was as organized as possible. Still the caucus was chaotic. She spent hours afterwards having to double check everything. The night of the caucus, it appeared that O won. But at the county convention, she announced that she had to turn in over 200 names of people who had voted illeglly. In Colorado, you have to be a registered Dem to vote in a caucus. So at the county the vote was exactly even.
At the CD convention and assembly, we experienced the stalling tactics of the O camp as they tried to get people to get tired and leave. They were totally surprised that even all our alternates showed up, when theirs didn’t. The same occurred at the state convention.
For the O people, the caucuses were all about taking away the voting rights of old people and older women, those who couldn’t endure the hours of standing and waiting.
There–my one-person anecdote cancels your one-person experience.
Hey Ash,
Sweetie,
Screw yourself with Larry Sinclair’s limo insignia up your Democratic donkey handle, imbecilic Obamabot! Shame on you to defend this unDemocratic process. Listen to your AFrican American voter telling you to your face that she saw an 80-year-old woman violently threatened by two of your Obamabot male AA thugs! Go, be my guest, moron, if you don’t believe 2000 complaints registere in houston Texas alone!
Get lost, you thug. Barry was born politically in the sewers of Chicago. He’s been swimming in dirt ever since. He’s the slimiest politico around and he’s got a record.
Barry stole the election from his AA mentor Sen Alice Palmer (Hillary supporter, understandably) in Chicago in ‘96. Now this recidivist stole the nomination from the real winner Hillary Clinton!
So, moron, go watch this video and get your jollies from your anorexic resume who can’t hold a candle to HRC:
“Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” – Sweetie doing his dumb rapper JayZ routine dusting and ’scraping’ off his shoes…his fellow (female) opponent, Hillary Clinton! Watch your bumbuddy’s smirk, his gleam, his bitchiness….What an underground queenie…thirsting for revenge ON STAGE….
Ready for my closeup Mr. Dean!…
go suck a lemon sweetie. At least your OBummer got himself some Adult Supervision with racist Biden…
Response to ASH
Kansas has an estimated 1,990,002 Eligible Voters. 1.84% caucused on that snowy night. A whopping total of 36,634 people showed up.
Yep, that was a representative group of all the diversity of nearly 2 million Kansans. No doubt about it.
Did you know there are 321,000 people with disabilities of voting age in Kansas? They certainly showed up in force that night didn’t they Ash?
Obama beat Hillary by 17,710 votes that snowy night – and got 14 pledged delegates more than she did.
On the other hand, Hillary only got 12 more pledged delegates by beating the socks off Barack in Pennsylvania by 214,115 votes out of the 2.3 million total.
Now, which of these two states do you reckon offer a better sampling of the will of all of the citizens? The one wherein 1.84% of eligible voters participated or the one in which 24.5% voted?
Yet in the end, the delegates won were approximately equal – 14 more for Obama in Kansas and 12 for Clinton in PA.
At the Convention in Denver, those Kansas delegates are going to represent the voices of 894 voters each… while the PA delegates are going to represent the voices of 12,275 voters each.
Those caucuses. Wow. Can everybody just feel the fairness?
Wonder if Barack won Kansas in a similar way as Romney won the Nevada Republican caucus?
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Elections with low voter turnout are much more influenced by subgroups of a total population, by voters with a particular political agenda and by those strongly committed to a specific candidate. Consider an example of how a small, but well-mobilized group of supporters can dominate and control the caucus outcome:
Example: The 2008 Nevada Republican caucus is one instance of how the process can present skewed results. In Nevada, 5% of the population is Mormon, but 25% of the Republican caucus-goers were Mormon, and 95% of that 25% voted for Mitt Romney. Romney won by a landslide 51% of the vote, Ron Paul was second with 14% and McCain took third place with 13%. However, the total votes cast were only 44,300 out of 1.7 million eligible voters – a 2.6% turnout.
Note: Like Obama, Romney was pursuing a caucus-domination strategy. Before he suspended his campaign on Feb. 7, 2008, he’d won 8 of the 10 caucuses he entered with large-margin victories and placed a close 2nd in the other two. McCain won only one caucus. Part of the difference between the Democratic and Republican race is that Republicans have delegate allocation with more “winner-take-all” states.
If Democrats had winner-take-all delegate allocation, the final results would have been Clinton 1895.5 pledged delegates and Obama 1497.
Keep this in mind:
In this 2008 Dem election cycle, 8 of the 13 caucus states had less turnout than the 44,300 Republicans who gave Romney his win in Nevada.
Is this really how we want to choose our Democratic nominee?
– peniel cronin
Apparently you people don’t care about the “our” part.
Would you seriously rather vote for McCain, or not vote at all?
When the Supreme Court gets stacked with conservatives, when the environment is raped, when the ordinary people are screwed by another Republican Administration, will you be happy and smug that at least you proved that Obama isn’t worth your support?
You are as bad as the middle class people voting against their own self interests because they are afraid that gay people might be getting married.
Everyone who wanted to know the rules could have known the rules and changed them before the primary/caucus season. Hillary thought these rules would work for her–Obama thought they would work against her. Obama was right. End of story. This is why you hear no one in the Democratic Party saying that the rules must be changed for 2012–because everyone likes to think that they will be able to manipulate the rules to their favor.
Ash, the point is that voter fraud is much easily negated by a primary rather than a caucus. And a primary represents a much larger percentage of the population than a caucus, also giving working individuals a much wider window of opportunity to vote. Take your lips off of Obama’s butt once in a while and come up for air so your brain can start functioning again.
Well Ash,
There is little to take serious about that comment save its final sentences, “(s)crap the whole thing and go to caucuses. That way people that give a damn control the process.” As a lifelong watcher of Chicago politics I must say that the local Democrats would love to use that system in all elections, no secret ballot. Here in Chicago voter intimidation is very real and the caucus system makes that intimidation both legal and more open. Period. To this Chicagoan that final sentence really sounded better in its original German.
To become Senator Obama relied on the fawning local media that went after his vastly more qualified, experienced and superior opponents in both parties by going to court to obtain private divorce records (against the wishes of all involved including adult children and lawyers for a minor child) and ran those stories heavily even against the subsequent testimony of many involved family members while at the same time refusing to dig into anything involving Obama. His church was described by the Chicago press as a “mainstream Christian Church”, we now know that to be a lie but we didn’t find out about Trinity United until well after Iowa.
At the 1972 DNC (held in Miami) the Democratic Party stole the primary votes of legitimate Illinois voters and sat as the Illinois delegation a group that was led by Jesse Jackson. Jackson and Operation PUSH had set up their own polling stations throughout the state, especially in African-American areas and ran their own “primary”, the closest “polling place” to my family’s home was several towns away. The night that the DNC debated the motion to sit the Jackson delegation (they eventualy did sit that illegitimate Jackson delegation as a protest to the late Mayor Richard J Daley for the actions of the Chicago Police during the 1968 DNC) my father, a lifelong Democrat and friend of the current Mayor Daley (their father’s were boyhood friends) was livid as we watched his vote being stolen live on television from Miami. Because the problems of caucuses it appears that the votes of other states may have been stolen out in the open, only this time the Chicago Boys didn’t do it on television and a Daley didn’t get screwed.
Ash…
Caucuses disenfranchise voters. Most caucuses are in the evening which makes it difficult for the elderly who often are uncomfortable driving at night and go to bed early. Those disabled individuals who rely on public transportation or physical assistance will have difficulties getting to the caucuses and sometimes into the facility. Anyone whose normal work shift falls during the caucus hours will not be able to attend; no business will allow all of its employees to be gone for 3 hours at a time. In a family with small children, only one parent will be able to attend the caucus (mostly the mother) because someone needs to watch the children and toddlers generally don’t do well in large crowds at night.
In a traditional primary, polls are open for 12 hours or more. People can go before or after work, even those on odd shifts. The disabled and elderly can go while public transportation is running or their aids are available. Parents can take turns going or take their children along if the lines aren’t too long.
There are no protections like absentee voting and confidential voting. If your candidate doesn’t meet the threshold, your vote has to go to a second or third choice.
If you need more evidence that the caucus system disenfranchises voters, look at the turnout for the Texas two-step. Almost three million people ovted in the Democrat primary. Less than 100,000 were at the caucus the same day.
ALL caucuses should become primaries.
Wow, how about a civil voice? To be honest, these seems to be the problem w/Obama’s supporters, “we won, fuck you”…and it will cost your candidate the election. Your attitude is what is wrong with that particular wing of the party.
Rather sad really, the party that Thos. Jefferson founded reduced to “fuck you”.
Could you produce your caucus numbers for us all to review. (The legitimate ones) Not the ones you make up. I happen to know many people in the great state of Kansas. Some of them went to the caucus that I believe was held in Lawrence.
I have included the link to the Kansas numbers for your viewing pleasure troll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Democratic_caucuses,_2008
Yes he won by a landslide, but many people were working and so could not attend the caucus. The amount of time they take also is a deterant.
something like six hours to vote then re-vote.
Caucus voting is not the representation of the millions of people in that state, but of only a few thousand. There is also a lot of intimidation to vote for one person or another person.
Kansas will not go blue. There are many who are changing their minds fast and will be voting for Mccain.
I think your numbers are just a little off troll. You were also not the only location , they were at the fairgrounds too. Depended on your district.
Married to his second wife, Jill, since 1977, Senator Biden’s personal health became an issue during the eighties, when he was hospitalized with a pair of brain aneurysms. Fortunately, he made a smooth recovery and has endured the jokes about his mysteriously reappearing hair while showing a strong of humor of his own. However, as candidates often learn, that sense of humor and sharp-tongue have already proven to be two-edged swords. Still, in a world where voters frequently complain about “canned” political speech, Joe Biden has proven that, for better and for worse, there’s little that’s preprocessed about the senator’s speaking style.
http://www.orlandoreport.com/profiles/Presidents_candidates/joe_biden.htm
Where can I get a BideNObama bumper sticker?
Hey, Zsa Zsa, I’ve always wanted to meet you– preferably after your candidate is soundly defeated.
Did anyone notice Joe said today that his wife’s doctorate is “a problem”? I haven’t heard the pundits mention that gaffe yet.
Leave it to Pelosi to clear up any misuderstanding though-
ABC News’ Teddy Davis and Arnab Datta report: Speaking to reporters in Denver, Colo., House Speaker Nancy Pelosi defended Sen. Joe Biden’s Saturday crack about his wife having a doctorate degree.
“You know what,” said Pelosi “I’m going to tell you something: lighten up folks. We have a planet to save.”
“If Sen. Biden thinks that his wife is gorgeous, that’s a-okay with me,” she added.
Deb:
“ABC Political Radar” mentioned it. Also it seems when Pelosi was asked she replied: “Lighten up folks, we have a planet to save”
Here are the links:
Gaffes:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-misspea-1.html
Pelosi’s comments:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/pelosi-on-biden.html
Gosh… I can’t stand Pelosi… Does anyone know what is it needed for her to lose the Speaker position short of Dems losing contyrol of the House.
That is: what does it take for a new Dem. Speaker to be elected to replace Pelosi? Will her tenure as Speaker go unchallenged ?
Hillary supporters outraged –
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/23/some-in-clinton-circle-outraged/
The Pelosi worm can choose to step down (what with a little bit of heat applied). Remember when the Hustler (I think) guy put up a million bucks to anyone who could produce evidence that a high up Republican had an affair? Poof, the chosen new Speaker of the House gone…
Anybody got some spare change to put up for Pelosi’s early retirement fund?
Andy,
Vote and donate money to Cindy Sheehan and defeat Nancy in her district. I’d love to see her leave Congress. Such hopes when she became the first woman Speaker, and dashed almost immediately.
Cindy Sheehan is running for her seat but I don’t know how much support she’s actually have against Nancy Pelosi.
Cindy Sheehan needs only to split the Dem vote. The Rep’s are running a local woman also.
Eyes on the prize… we want her out any way she can go…
Pelosi needs to go wax her Gavel
It’s a problem because it makes he an elite. Anyone with a good education is elite, and therefore shouldn’t be trusted in politics. But clearly he was kidding – he dosn’t actually think a good educatin is a bad thing.
“lighten up, we have a planet to save?” Lighten up? I think all the lightening up that moonbeam and her minions have done is one of the reasons that our glorious orb is in such jeopardy.
Lighten up, madam Botox? Piss off and let some real democrats do some real work to save the environment. Lighten up? Join the lemmings as they joyfully skip off the cliff? Nope.
I’m staying off their site until later – it’s getting hammered and I don’t want it to crash.
Here’s something for everybody – completely off topic but of interest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS2ASf5AR7A
Gumby insulting Biden earlier in the campaign.
People on Algre’s are saying this may be spliced and not a real quote
It could be spliced – the quote isn’t on google.
Like google is King……………..Barry is.
Chicago poitics rule #2: The dead shall rise from the grave and vote 3 times for the candidate that has been blessed by the machine.
On a side note: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzQxYTk4NjhkMTM0ZmI4MDQyNGQ3NjYxNWI4YWYwZDU=
Amy: thanks for this post; I am looking forward to watching this and to Peniel Cronin’s posts.
One of the things that sadden me the most about Tubbs Jones passing (besides the obvious0 wa sthat she was committed to start working for election reform.
Caucuses are a shame and should be erradicated. they have nothing to do with democracy and encouraging people to participate and respect their voices.
One person one vote and all votes are sacred.
It is also disturbing that this will probably be ignored by the MSM, that many in this country just don’t seem to care what is happening. It is frightening.
Mostly because all this crap is made up.
sounds like obama, things have to be made up for him.
So, we’re pulling a Michael Moore? My fist caucus was in a room that holds 80 people and over 300 showed up. Seniors were fainting, mothers with crying children had to leave, no microphone was used and chaos ensued. As I advanced as a delegate to our congressional district and State convention, the name calling to women and intimidation got worse! Until you’ve experienced this yourself, STFU asshole.
No Ash, it not all crap or made up.
The curtain has been yanked back and the Wizard has been revealed.
He’s not a wizard at all … just a guy pulling levers of power in order to manipulate the seeming reality that people experience.
No matter how much you rail against it – Truth is an unstoppable force!
Keep telling yourself this truth about caucuses is unreal … because change will come anyway!
— peniel cronin
There was a lawsuit filed by Philip J. Berg of PA. in the suit; Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083
To stay the nomination of Obama due to him not meeting the qualifications to run for Pres. That being he never was or is no longer considered a “natural born” citizen of the US.
You can check out a video which highlights the claims here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SiNYt2Vj40 and check out a copy of the suit here:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/1-philip-j-berg-esq-files-federal-lawsuit-requesting-obama-be-removed-as-a-candidate-as-he-does-not-meet-the-qualifications-for-president
Please pass this on!
Trist,
I have sent this on to my email list and onto Hannity and Lou Dobbs. I hope others are doing the same as the media continues to be in the tank for The One.
Thank you Linda! There was also an interview done with Mr. Berg which you can read here:
http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/q-with-phillip-berg.html
I think I will throw up after watching this……………..
lol , well maybe someone should write the enquire to investigate Obamas thugery, since Enquire broke the Edwards story, i suppose other than Fox, they are the real media, not the paid and tingly newsman of the other networks i don’t watch anything other than Fox because its alot more informative and the have broken alot of stories about Obama that are coming to light, that are true of his shadiness.
what the documentary trailer shows is sickening. This needs to be seen!!
lol , well maybe someone should write the enquire to investigate Obamas thuggery, since Enquire broke the Edwards story, i suppose other than Fox, they are the real media, not the paid and tingly newsman of the other networks i don’t watch anything other than Fox because its alot more informative and the have broken alot of stories about Obama that are coming to light, that are true of his shadiness. Nobama, Biden like the media will fight the wussys fight.dah dah dah dah not fair Bama says , vote experience not a ticket where the vp overpowers the President, can you hear it now Bama paging Biden , because the big meanies of fox, are not nice and they are telling the truth. lol Or how about Joe, can you choose my friends since the only judgement no, about the war is now not a .5 on a judgement of 100 , since it seems everything else sucks, Im a follower not leader teach me Joe.
And this is why no one takes any of you seriously.
It is the silent ones you need to watch out for……….Just sayin.
Nov 4th will be a landslide GOP victory!
Obviously you do because you’re here. Twonk. We don’t take KOS seriously that’s why you don’t see us slumming it over there with you.
Anchovy.
So you are here to not take us seriously, got it.
I don’t know about you Sim, but I have never taken a Barry supporter seriously…..Just sayin
They’re so bitter, what are they clinging to?
they seem to cling to their pillows while biting on them
Sim,
Right now they’re all clinging to the edge of the bowl to keep from spiraling down…..
I’m here for cheap laughs. Great stuff. Keep it up.
Ash-wipe!
That’s about what you’re worth!
Stop the hate!
Donna! I came on the site tonight and was so hoping to see your “stop the hate!” I love it, it always makes me smile.
Simple minds, simple pleasures. Or I could say something about you being cheap and easy…but you ARE an Obama supporter, it’s stating the obvious.
Amen sister strawberry!
Stop the hate:-)
TESTIFY sister Donna! Praise the ONE!…Oh god, sorry…I can’t even fake that…bwah. Oof.
Great film. Wish everyone at the DNC Convention could see it BEFORE the roll call vote, and wish Obama would have to answer for the way in which he has supported the disenfranchising of voters. It really saddens me that the Democratic Party has thrown away democracy just in order to place “the one” a few leaders have decided they want forward as the candidate.
Well sent it to the delegates.All of us.today
I saw this video last night as it was emailed to me. It made me very sad and very mad. The caucuses have to come to an end and we need cameras at every polling place next time to keep the Obama thugs watched. What a disgrace that we have become as bad as a 3rd world country, maybe worse than many of them.
The Chicago mentality that led to the caucus bullying will extend to everything – it will award the Olympics to Chicago, no-bid contracts, etc if Obama is president.
We cannot reward this behavior.
These old women were born before women had the right to vote, and they were denied access to caucus for Hillary. This is so freaking disgusting I could scream.
You are right AF, we cannot reward this behavior.
The superdelegates must do the right thing, and send this thug and his thug followers back to Chicago.
4 am the morning after tx caucus….i heard on the radio (i live in ky) about the going ons and questionable troubles at the caucuses…….i have never heard one other word about this appalling behavior until NOW…..how in the hell does the dnc really believe any of us would ever vote for their guy…..please spread this link far and wide it is utterly obscene to see.
The 33 minute documentary said one important thing to me. There are very brave and very dedicated people in the Democratic Party who still do care enough to speak out and document this fraud.
related topic: I look at the K orange site frequently and came upon a real k@s bots melt down and it’s all about PUMAs.
I won’t link but for some good laughs, check out the Article:
Clinton supporters have nothing to complain about in Biden nomination
by smintheus
Sat Aug 23, 2008 at 02:05:15 PM PDT
They are at once cursing us and then trying to appease and then insults are hurled and then a hand out. It is a laugh riot.
I am feeling very smug. Obamafraud is starting to tank and get some well deserved scrutiny. The bots are trying to prop up this slop they gave us.
I am making it a my mission to get a
“letters to Editor ” printed spreading the truth on O and his shenanigans in my local papers. I got my first one published and i am going to get more. Join me in writing to our local papers and speaking out.
nobama
PUMA
Its like I said before. People don’t want to hear it…but since day one, the start of the Dem primaries, Robert Mugabe thug tactics…we are no better than that cheap tin-horn dictator from Zimbabwe! The wannabe thugs were bussed out of Chicago since Day One. A sad state of American affairs. Ok, that is the past…NOW WE KNOW THE TRUTH about the candidate of change. Let’s not this happen again. These thugist tactics have to be stopped.
Sen. Hillary Clinton won her seat after her husband was impeached and threatened with jail…The truth of the DNC is now for all to see…They are threatening her again. I hope that the superdelegates wake up and change their votes. Our country has been so fortunate. Remember, FDR was a surprise convention pick! Hillary is our last hope!!!
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A litany of complaints about Joe Biden’s views of minorities:
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/why-bidens-racist-behind-aint-gonna-be-vp/
These people are the real heros in the Democrat Party. I heard this was going on but to hear it from people who experienced it is unbelieveable. This is the kind of government we can look forward to if this fraud is elected – a takeover by thugs and chaos in every corner of this country while the mainstream media fiddles and makes excuses for their Nero.
God help us all.
Barack Obama HUMILIATES Joe Biden on DAY 1
How fragile is this guy’s ego? Must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmzI5VbqX3k
What a hoot. Transparency in his insecurity.
The meme on McCain having so many houses? Let’s go back into the memory tubes and hear what Joe Biden has to say about the Democratic Party and the rich in Nov. 2007:
http://blogs.unionleader.com/andrew-cline/?p=986
I be an ignorant Obamachimp. I is scart of men so I try and intimidate the womenfolk.
Ash-wipe!
Glad you finally got some learnin’! You know a mind is a terrible thing to waste but I’d be willing to let yours go!
Stop the hate!
lol!
Ash,
You are a simpering, childish fool whose intellect is dwarfed by your stupidity. You come in here and talk like a little dickhead in front of the grownups and you get pissy when we ignore you.
I crap out better men than you every morning.
You are a vapid, ignorant, small minded fool whose last happy day will be the one before the election.
Get out some grease and go play with yourself…
pissant
Good article-thanks!
Also,
View the video’s released on August 9th 2008 by the
Sam J
Ervin Jr, former chairman of Watergate commission, library and museum in Morgantown NC.
According to producers, the DNC (with the support of the MSM)
has perpetuated a crime and fraud against the American voters by claiming Obama as the presumptive nominee.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Superdelegates votes can not count until convention
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
*VERY IMPORTANT PART: Why Obama is not the presumptive nominee
- these videos are very educational, interesting, and well-researched and documented. People are indeed repeating history. What is happening in 2008 has happened several times in the past. Educate your fellow voters.
Forward these links to others.
Sorry-here are the correct links.
For some reason they didnt carry over properly in my post above
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Khsg8iKjU
Superdelegates votes can not count until convention
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXpz8AJk8TM
Open Letter to Democratic Superdelegates
Rarely is one person given the opportunity and the responsibility to make a decision which will affect the future of their country. This is indeed such a time. It is as important a decision as the decision that citizens of this country made to revolt against the British government. It is as important a time as the moment that John Hancock decided to prominently sign his name, knowing that his signature would be considered treason punishable by death. Soon, each superdelegate will make a decision that will irrevocably usher in a time of corruption and political cheating or prosperity and a stable productive government. Such is the choice you have before you: whether to nominate Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.
Barack Obama has no substantial experience in government, no distinguished voting record, and no history of patriotic service to this country. Further, he has no leadership experience, having accomplished little during his tenure in Illinois or the Senate. His only experience is as a community organizer, a woefully inadequate preparation for the presidency. However, due to positive exposure from the media and the DNC, he has managed to catapult himself beyond far more qualified candidates. Further, he won many delegates from caucuses, a troublesome sign given that widespread caucus cheating has been documented and caucuses do not fairly represent the will of the voters. He has alienated key groups of traditionally Democratic voters. Do not be lulled into thinking that new younger voters will compensate for such voters, as they represent a huge block of moderate voters who elected Bill Clinton president. Do not think that empty phrases of change and hope can substitute for hard-core experience and a love of this country. Barack Obama’s only agenda is to get elected. He neither knows how to run this country or to be loyal to it. His loyalty is to himself alone, and to the goal of being elected president.
Hillary Clinton has substantial experience and a desire to do what is right and good for this country. While the media and the DNC abandoned her, she stood firm and strong, propelled by the loyalty and needs of eighteen million citizens. With her perseverance and policy knowledge, she demonstrated that she can lead this country while she weathered adversity and stood alone against the media and the political establishment. Eighteen million citizens still believe she is the most qualified Democrat, and will elect her to the presidency of this country if she is nominated. How do we know this? Because she withstood tremendous pressure to drop out of the race, against all odds and against the disrespect of the media and political pundits. She was villified and ridiculed, but she stood firm in her resolve. We, the citizens, will not forget the treatment that she endured. We will remember it at the polls, and we will boycott the media that participated in the disgraceful bashing of a sitting senator. Their job was to inform the public of the truth, and to stand as a reminder that we should not elect a person because of race or gender; rather, we must elect the most capable leader. They have utterly failed in that task, and their only asset, their journalistic integrity, has been squandered. A fair, unbiased, free press is one of the cornerstones of democracy, and the American press has abdicated their responsibility, and therefore put our freedom at risk.
The media has betrayed its citizens in not reporting the truth about Barack Obama: he is the product of a corrupt political Chicago system, and is not capable of leading this country. He is simply a manufactured media image. Were he to be elected, he would flounder and put this country in great financial and national security danger. The leader of the free world must be a person of great integrity and deep experience, and Obama has neither. The citizens of this country will not reward superdelegates for choosing a nominee with a troubled past and a history of radical and criminal associations. If you choose such a nominee, it will be our duty to ensure that you are not re-elected, for you will have betrayed the trust of the citizens of this country. We, the citizens, have a message for you: if you nominate Obama, you demonstrate poor judgment, and we will vote you out for your lack of judgment and loyalty to our country. To those superdelegates who took money from Obama and switched their allegiance, we can only convey our contempt for your lack of integrity and leadership. Chicago politics has already taken control of the Democratic party; do not let it take over our government.
Think very carefully about the sacrifices our forefathers have made for this country. Their blood made it possible for this great country to survive and prosper. Do not betray their sacrifice. Now you, as superdelegates, are being asked to sacrifice far less to ensure the survival and prosperity of this nation. Do not let Wall Street money or Chicago politics distract you from the task at hand. Your task is no less than to vote for the survival of this great country. The future of our children and every patriotic citizen is in your hands. Take the defensible course, and nominate Senator Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate for president. Rogue nations and military dictators are waiting to take advantage of an inexperienced and far left-leaning president who neither understands policy nor the complexities of diplomacy. America stands as the model of freedom and democracy for the entire world. You must uphold those ideals, or be guilty of betraying the country and eroding our freedom, and indeed the cause of democracy, around the world.
We, the citizens of this great country, are watching your choice, and your loyalty, very carefully. We fear for this country, and our liberties, if you make the wrong choice. Stand up for your country now, or see it diminished. Do not underestimate the importance of this decision. The wrong candidate will bring about an economic depression and serious instability. China, Russia, and the Middle East are waiting for an American misstep. The survival of our country is at stake. Do not disrespect the forefathers of this great nation by choosing an undeserving and imcompetent candidate. Retain your legacy now, as a protector and defender of liberty, or be known as a traitor to democracy.
Amy,
I am from TX and it all happened in my caucus as well. That is when I resolved to get to know Obama better and I do not like what I learned.
The intimidation tactics were awful. Did you notice that some people choose to have their identities obscured in that documentary? I feel that they are still being intimidated and threatened.
I urge everyone to write to Greta, O’Reilly and Hannity and ask them AGAIN to look into this. I know it sometimes feels like we aren’t getting anywhere, but our voices are being heard. It’s a simple step to take.
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Voter intimidation is unacceptable in a democracy, that’s why secret ballots are so important.
I object to the idea, at the beginning of this thread, that “all Americans” have the right to vote.
Well, actually, no. All U.S. citizens who are legally eligible, and who have registered, can vote. “American” is a generic term that can be interpreted in a number of ways. “U.S. citizen” is much more specific.
If you care about an open and fair political process, you will help end the caucus system currently in use.
Keep speaking up.
The Democrats are becoming more ethical….
John Edwards has been banned from making a speech at the Democratic Convention for having an affair and lying about it.
Bill Clinton will speak in his place.
Hillary’s supporters need to get over things and get on board. The Obama campaign staff I talked to in Iowa said it was clear she did not want the vice presidency and never asked to be a part of the vetting process. That some are spreading lies now that she wasn’t vetted and its a slur at her are only helping Republicans.
Get over it. Your girl lost. People don’t want the baggage she brings. Obama and Biden are a fresh start with none of the special interests and Washington D.C. culture. If your going to be part of the party, then women Hillary supporters need to know when to help and do what the party leadership requires.
Seriously? You think Biden is “fresh”? He voted for the war, drafted the plan! So much for “CHANGE”!
The only thing that can be said about this choice is that now at least there is one person on the ticket with some experience.
Biden is the ONE! All the NOBAMA supporters are now at work trying to convince us that HIllary supporters can now “rest in peace”. Good Try all you “People Trying To Change PUMAs to Vote For Obama”. The operative word here is NOBAMA! We are not against Obama in the normal way that has been true for past elections. In the past, we had our favorites, BUT we really liked all the Dems in the primaries.
OUR PREMISE IS “COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!”. Nobama is a person without integrity, honesty, and a past that shows he surrounded himself with associates that put their own selfish interest first not the needs of our country. Some of them actually advocated violence against our country. You CHOOSE YOUR ASSOCIATES AND FRIENDS. Obama’s lies about these associations are obvious. The leaders of our party refuse to stand up and say what they think and know. WHY? Obama is not qualified to be PRESIDENT. He does not have the values and beliefs that will allow him to operate in the best interest of our nation.
The voters in November will have no such pressures placed on them to NOT tell the truth. They will show they understand what is best for our country with their vote.
By the way if you think Hillary supporters DO NOT KNOW that Hillary is being pressured with actions that will hurt her supporters, THINK AGAIN! Blaming Hillary for Obama’s inadequacies is delusional. Obama is the one who can’t close the deal. The polls are telling you this! Again the Democratic leadership is refusing to listen to the core Democrats in the party. What arrogrance and self-destructive behavior! OR, what does Obama and his backers have on all these people?
I cannot support the Democratic Party with the nasty path they have taken in the 21st Century (for instance, look up how the governor of Washington got her position and how the party smiles like the Cheshire cat and looks the other way), and now I see the lying and tactics of “any means necessary” has metastacized.
I am disgusted.
I know GOOD people of all persuasion embrace the party, and you folks better smack this evil down or you will either lose your party or lose our republic.
Hey cheesedick! Where’s that “Whitey” video we were promised?
Did anyone else notice Every position Obama opposed Hillary on before she dropped out he has now adopted?
Seriously he used to be against the death penalty, for immediate withdrawal, against any form of gun rights, against Fisa immunity, against the patriot act he voted to reinstate, against drilling, against education reform (equal funding per student rather then the economic gerrymandering that keeps poor kids in poor schools) and even against fighting illegal immigration. He was a hardline far left liberal i would never vote for. Now he is trying to be a moderate smart leader (or adopting her stances) the kind that made me cross party lines to support Clinton. I still won’t vote for him because I don’t trust him to KEEP his campaign promises since he already broke the ones he made to his early constituents.
It’s with a heavy heart I vote for McCain in November. He’s a good man, but Hillary despite our differences, understands universal healthcare and has been a wise head of the senate armed forces committee, and those are more important then the things I support McCain for. To bad now eh democrats? Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. You did this in hopes of electing the first black president, to bad you didn’t check to see if it would be honest competent black president like Thomas Sowel, Colin Powel, or to a lesser extent Condoleeza Rice would be.
And in case you are wondering unlike the media likes to say, not all Hillary fans are women. I’m a dude, i hate her in her senate run but she proved me wrong. I hated Barack in his senate run as well but he proved me right.
This debate confuses me. I have always been under the impression that our political parties were PRIVATE organizations, and that they were free to select there candidates at their own discretion. I was unaware that the Democratic party was under any obligation to hold primaries (or caucuses, for that matter) at all, or that voters had any “rights” pursuant to how the parties select their candidates. If not, the Libertarians have been getting away with it for years – they select their candidates in closed convention, with no input from the voters, as I thought was their right. So what’s all this about “disenfranchising voters”? You can’t be “disenfranchised” of a “right” you don’t possess to begin with.
I enjoyed all the “caucuses aren’t fair” talk prior to Hillary losing them.
Oh wait, that didn’t happen?
That’s strange, it seems the only other explanation would be that you got beat fair and square and should stop making up accusations of voter intimidation. Hillary lost the caucuses because she didnt plan for them. I’m sorry, but lets just move on to making sure John “Overturn Roe v. Wade” McCain is defeated.
You are wrong. I attended our our caucus and experienced the voter intimidation first hand so I don’t much care for being called a liar BOBP. I wold be fine with Clinton losing if it had been fair…it wasn’t! I accepted it when Kerry lost because, once again, I was there and a delegate.
This stupid Roe V Wade mantra is just stupid. Nobody is going to overturn your wish to continue killing black babies (the majority of women having abortions are black). What needs to be stopped in partial birth abortion where a baby is killed as it is delivered by being stabbed in the back of the head…how sad it must be to have the killing of babies being your mission in life. What a shame your mother didn’t share and participate in yu mission.
Bopeep!
Are you Obama’s DADDY now? He sure needs one to hold his hand and help him govern since he ain’t never done it before!
By the way Bopeep, they got cheap labor in China as well. If this gig doesn’t work out for you, I’m sure BO has a job for you in China.
Stop the hate, bopee,pee!
I seem to recall another Clinton managing to get nominated, with caucuses and all. Now, all of a sudden, they’re unfair and unsporting?
No, they’re too easily gamed. No one (including me) ever thought we’d see the day that one of our own would use republican tactics against us. But now we know don’t we?
I caucused in Washington, also a Democrat county in the state. We had union thugs brought in to take over our caucus. We were shouted down and told that Clinton could not win and cut off discussions as they pushed the vote. Those of us not going along were insulted, yelled at treated with disrespect. These people were not from our district, county or state but were allowed to vote without showing any type of identification.
This is not my daddy’s Democrat Party! I will never vote for Obama and at this point I feel the same about the entire party that has been hijacked by the most vile of the anti American groups. The Democrat Party is now the Communist Party.
I’m with ya Mickey! Nisqually here!
You people are really delusional. This whole thing makes women look bad. I’m not really sure you know what you are doing? The whole PUMA thing makes everyone in that group look mentally challenged. If you really think that John McCain speaks for you? ask his wife whom he refered to a C@%T. Or wants to take away your right to choose. Then go ahead and become responsible for another 4 years of hell for every man woman and most of your children as John McCain supports the draft. NO, but seriously, voice your cause and vote for John McCain. All this does is make you and all Women’s rights people look VERY bad.
Please proof read before you post, it makes all ‘you people’ appear low information and products of No Child Left Behind.
Straw:
Some people were left on their behind:-)
Stop the hate:-)
Fred,
You support Obama so no rational person will take your comments seriously.
You people are pathetic. Grow up.
You can’t deal with the fact that Hillary lost because she ran a lousy campaign and Obama ran a good one.
I hate to think that McCain could get elected because of a bunch of puerile sore losers.
…? And that goes double for you.
brian,
If you don’t like the conversation here, go elsewhere. You support Obama. Obama has a questionable past, dubious associations, is unqualified for the position, and is a racist and sexist. He flip-flops more than a halibut at a fish market.
If you support Obama, you need to look into your soul and question your motives.
Vote for America and not for a political party.
Yo cryin’ Brian!
We’re not the ones the DNC hired a babysitter for!
You may want to rethink that grow up comment or Big DADDY Biden might make you sit in the corner.
Stop the hate!
WOW !!!! i just happened onto this site, but you guys are really angry. and you are all democrats? for a minute there i was worried that obama would win the election, but i don’t have to worry about that anymore. plus to really make my weekend he picks the honorable senator from delaware, foghorn leghorn, as VP. SNATCHING DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY !!!! honestly who really cares which nitwit is elected, they are all liars and crooks and we are all going to get screwed in the end. vote for a 3rd party candidate.
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Hate to say it, but I agree with Jim’s post… We would have to be brain dead to “believe” in ANY of these political candidates!
If you are a True Believer in ANY of them, you must follow events, news, speeches and their actions with real blinders on!
Our job is to call these people into account, not to bow down to ANY of them and trust their “leadership!” Number one, they are all seriously lacking in capability, EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!
They also ALL have dubious behaviors in their history! ALL!!!
Whomever wins, WE need to keep pressure on them to be honest, to TRY to make the best choices for America, and to represent ALL Americans as much as they can.
This is not some friggin’ FOOTBALL LEAGUE, people!!!
We are facing very serious problems, real dangers, and need carefully thought out solutions. No matter who “wins.”
Quit being passionate about these loser human beings who have such big egos that they want to “rule!”
Get passionate about paying close attention to what is really going on in DC. A much bigger deal than who is President!
hahahaahaaa….mcCain doesn’t have a questionable past…. um,
maybe his affair that ended his marriage or his dealing in the abramoff scandal….also, am I to believe just because I support senator Obama, that means you can’t listen or take anything I say seriously? Verryyyyy closed minded and kinda proves my point about the whole PUMA thing. Just let it go. Obama and Clinton were almost Identical on alllll issues from universal health care to the economy, ect…. for all of you to support McCain you is NOTHING like Hillary is insane. Sorry to be an ass, but it’s the truth.
Clinton didn’t hang with radicals, or have a Chicago Political Past..
Clinton for President
you was supposed to be who.
What in god’s name does a “Chicago Political past” even mean….by radicals I hope you don’t mean ayers… Someone’s been watching too much TV.
I bet you also believe that Paris Hilton is running for President. Also, not to spoil anyones dreams here, but it has just been announced that Clinton is releasing all of her Delegates to Obama….Tooooo Bad. Maybe in 8 years…..
This is probably the last hope for America…..it’s sad really.
Obama is a Very bad Omen, a Tornado just touched down in Colorado…..
Clinton should be the NOminee.
GOD I HOPE HILLARY TAKES A SHIT SOON
SHES GOD AWFULLY SICK LIL PUPPY
What do you call a herd of sore losers who manufacture illegal acts and sabotage to try and explain why their candidate lost?
Republicans or Clinton supporters.Pretty much the same damn thing.
hey fred, half the country are republicans, and half the democrats are clinton supporters. thats 75% of the people you have managed to insult. thats the way to unify !!!! honestly, it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool then to open it and prove them right.
I don’t care who you voted for caucus fraud and voter intimidation needs to come right front and center into the light and be exposed. After reading Dr. Lynette Long’s papers and seeing these and many other testimonies about this it seems the entire thing IS bigger than Watergate in that we know it was orchestrated. Then add on those illegal contributions from overseas. I’m sorry but if the DNC knows about this and is going along with it they are breaking the law and subverting the will of the American people, they have taken away the most precious right we have and that is the right to have our voices heard with our votes. Without that you might as well live in a dictatorship. Anyone who cares at ALL about the democratic process ought to be very, very disturbed by this.
It’s starting to shape up to me to seem like Barck Obama =Richard Nixon.
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