Report: Hillary Will Release Her Delegates
By SusanUnPC on August 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM in Hillary Clinton
I first heard this on CNN a short while ago, and now find an Associated Press report:
Clinton expected to release delegates Wednesday
DENVER – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, hoping to unite the Democratic Party and cement her future in it, will gather her hard-won primary delegates Wednesday at a reception where she is expected to formally release them to Barack Obama.
The New York senator has invited her pledged delegates to a reception at the Colorado Convention Center, not far from the main Democratic National Convention arena.
The high-profile gathering of political regulars who once fought against Obama serves a dual purpose for Clinton: Show fellow Democrats that she can be a team player, and display her still-formidable political strengths for the future. Many of her supporters want her to run for president again.
A Democratic official told The Associated Press Sunday, a day before the convention begins, that she is expected to release her delegates at the Wednesday event. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to discuss details publicly. …
Let no one say — ever — that Hillary Clinton has not conducted herself with the utmost dignity, grace, and the strongest commitment to the Democratic party.
She is an example to all of us in how to treat devastating and unfair defeat with great class.
She is also, by conducting herself in the most dignified and unifying manner possible, preserving all of her options for the future.
And for us, as her supporters.
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Go Hillary. Make sure you leave them no opportunity to attack you in the future.
Now as to November 4, Oh hell no brainer…McCain over Joebama all the way.
ROTFL! Not to the fourth paragraph do we hear the source, anonymous, and NOT FROM THE HILLARY CAMP.
Oh sure, she’ll “release” them, but then say, “vote your conscience” Wink-Wink.
The Hillary camp should look for two ways to win. One, with the vote, or two, as the roll call goes down and Brazile suspends rules to proclaim Obama the Chosen One, Hillary is a shoo in for 2012 b/c any person, not just close followers, will see Hillary was mistreated.
oh man! good eye, good catch.
by now the DNC has put out so much BS, they should patent it.
besides which, since when does a candidate release delegates TO someone?
i can see simply “releasing” delegates, but then they’re free to vote Kucinich, Miguelito Raton (Mickey Mouse) or whoverthef*ck they want.
am i (w)right?
They are doing everything they can to FORCE Clinton to “control” her delegates the way obambi controls his. That’s not the way it works. We voted Clinton because she is a LEADER, not a dictator. Those votes are committed to her because we chose to give them to her. Barack feels he OWNS his delegates, they are his to do with what he wants and thinks that how it works. It doesn’t work that way. Hillary has created a situation where they can lay absolutely no blame on her at all and cannot cry or complain about rules or anything else.
Clinton yet again shows us her genius. When she “releases” her delegates, then ALL delegates are released, obama’s as well since there is technically no one holding delegates when she releases hers. His are then free to vote as they please, just as Hillary’s are and I’m sure Hillary’s delegates are intelligent enough (or have been explained to) to realize this and to share it with those Obama delegates who are are experiencing buyer’s remourse.
When Hillary “releases” her delegates, then ALL delegates are “FREE” since there is only one person claiming tho hold any and when the role call vote is made, ALL delegates can vote for anyone they so desire. This may be the most ingenious idea ever thought of by any candidate in any race in this nation. A role call must be made in order to officially make a nomination.
No pledged delegates for any opponent=no pledged delegates for anyone. Every delegate may vote as they see fit. By releasing her own, she realeases obama’s as well, with or without his consent since there is no longer a contending person to hold pledged delegates and all are free to vote as they wish.
This is my opinion and understanding and I could be wrong, but I believe this is the way that it works out.
Additionally, if she releases her delegates, obama’s campt can NOT “challenge” any of them because they are not affiliated any longer. Another brilliant move.
Of course, she can still challenge his, since he’s not ABOUT to release HIS pledged delegates (formally that is).
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
I wonder if this will force changes in the “delegates at large” since there must be equality in the number of males and females causing delegates at large to be replaced by the proper gender? (that is, previously favorable at large delegates for barack being replace by delegates who are favorable toward Hillary due to gender differences making it equitible for delegates at large” ?
10 states require they vote for who they are pledged to. It’s the law!
I can’t imagine a single Clinton delegate voting for obama even after they are released from their pledge. They are dedicated to Hillary or they wouldn’t be there. It’s obama’s delegates that are experiencing buyer’s remorse.
This will prevent any challenges to any of her delegates (who will still vote for her), may change some at-large delegates, and still leaves his delegates up to be challenged before the roll call vote.
She just beat him at his own game.
From: http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/frontPage.doWith Ohio, there are now 13 Binding Vote states where the elected/pledged delegates are bound to vote for HRC on the first ballot: Arizona, California, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Tennessee, Virginia. For additional information, please see # 5 below.
The DNC and Obama are clearly nervous that they do not have the votes to nominate Obama, and the DNC is trying every pressure tactic to avoid having a traditional floor roll call vote. Among other problems, this will also circumvent many state laws. On Monday we need you to call AGs in the 13 states to bring pressure on the DNC to respect the state laws and insist that the DNC hold an open floor roll call vote in the tradition of Democratic conventions for decades. Otherwise we are left with symbolic mush.
The only real down side to this is that now Obama thugs can intimidate delgates into voting for thug, instead of Clinton. Delegates won’t be able to say that they are not allowed to.
If someone has a way to contact delegates to voice continued support of Clinton, I hope they’ll post it.
The delegate contact website doe not work anymore.
Yes, that is the case - they are free to vote for whomever. There is a chance that once the delegates started arriving in Denver, it became clear they were as angry as we are and that she could release her delegates and they would hang with her regardless.
From what John King and all the others on CNN said tonight, the Hillary delegates are furious at how she has been treated, and they will still be voting for her on the roll call.
Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper only seemed to bring up the VP situation as the reason for the disgruntlement and how Hillary was never seriously considered. That is only a fraction of the anger or a continuation of it.
We know there is much more to the anger than that, and I hope no one loses sight of the real reason for it all - the rigging of the nominating process by the DNC and the party leadership of Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, and the many others. Yes, the disrespect and sexism was rampant, unbearable, and dispicable, but fixing a primary by party leaders goes to the heart of our democracy.
Cnn when the roll call begins,she may stop them before they hit the 50 State mark,and Cnn also said, they can vote for whomever they want.
I sure hope they woke up and will vote Clinton for the nominee..It would be better if it came from Obama though, and drop out.
pewl — the whole thing is ridiculous. Its all to make everyone feel that there is UNITY when there isn’t and that we are going to follow Hillary’s lead which we won’t. Its an exercise in futility. However, the TV cameras will show what appears to be a Unified Convention and thats all that matters.
For those who are saying here that they are looking forward to a Clinton victory in 2012 if we do not get one in 2008, I would suggest that the work begins on Thursday coming.
1. Do all you can to see that Obama loses in November and that we score a McCain victory. We all know the problems that an Obama victory would cause for the country and then some we don’t know about. He still has not been vetted properly, he is unqualified, too, too liberal, and the rest.
Four years of McCain will bode better for our country than any time with Barry.
2. Continue to maintain a PUMA presence and organize for 2012 so that nothing like this primary election fiasco happens again!
I love Hillary Clinton. God Bless Her. She must be going through a terrible time right now. A lesser woman would not have been able to get through this with as much dignity and class as she has exhibited.
Hillary in ‘08 or McCain it will be. Country before Party. Always.
lusitania–Obama is no liberal. He’s to the right of HRC on almost all issues.
whaaaaaaaatheeeeeef-utalkinbout?
That is BS. He doesn’t even have any core values. The views he has, he learned from Communist Frank Davis.
No Quarter really needs to expand, and adapt the Orange Urinal format.
The interface is the one good thing about that place.
You’ve got that right!
Hillary’s nerves are made of steel! She’s tough as nails. Extremely strong and gracious to go back to work for the VERY party who repeatedly stabbed her in the back and smiled in her face while doing it. Reminds me of the classic O’Jays song, “Backstabbers.”
They are going to pay through the ass for what they’ve done.
lusitania — very well said. McCain 08. Hillary 2012. We need to build a new Democratic Party without Howard Dean and Donna Brazile.
Hillary is doing everything right and doing it with class. So, when B. Hussein gets his “no class” skinny butt handed to him on Election Day, the Dems will not be able to blame her for sabotaging his campaign.
You’re right. Hillary is doing everything with class. Please follow her lead. But you’re wrong about one thing though, Obama and Biden will win in November.
kelvin — dream on. There is no way a majority of the American people are going to vote for an ex-muslim instead of a war hero.
no.
no they won’t.
HRC started asking for money in 2004.
This is her chance.
HRC is far better qualified and won the popular vote.
Trusting crooks and creeps when they say that they’ll take care of you will inevitably turn into:
“You fucked up - you trusted us”.
As an article pointed out: women, working class and older voters are looking for a party.
Vote for McSane and form a 3rd Party for 2012.
What does it mean to “release her delegates”? Very little. Here’s why.
According to the “Call for the 2008 Democratic National Convention,” pledged delegates “shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.” So, a delegate pledged to HRC as the result of the number of votes cast for her in the state’s primary caucus or election, is pledged to use all good conscience to carry out the expressed will of those voters.
The delegates from vote binding states are only obliged under state law to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged, until that candidate releases them. At this point, then, they are only bound to exercise the good conscience required under the DNC Call.
So, releasing her delegates may only appease her oppressors while not necessarily costing her votes.
(Please refer people back to this comment every so often. It will calm their nerves.)
After doing some research I retract my statement of go Hillary. Until we get a confirmation that this is from Hillary its a fake and here is what i found:
Here is where this story is likely coming from and being pushed by obama people.
This opinion was posted on Yahoo from Nation at 1:18 am sunday.
Notice the time of posting
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/348001/will_clinton_release_her_delegates
This Opinion Piece was then carried on Yahoo news here:
news.yahoo.com/story//thenation/20080824/cm_thenation/45348001
Then came the Chicago Sun Times story here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/1124075,clinton082408.article
Clinton expected to release delegates Wednesday
August 24, 2008Recommend
FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
Which came from AP:
Aug 24, 7:51 PM EDT
Clinton expected to release delegates Wednesday
By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CVN_CLINTON?SITE=OHALL2&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Notice the posting times for the original opinion piece and the story.
News? Or Newsmaking?
Not Sure but what has the media got right this election season when it comes to pump and dumping for Senator Obamarosa Been lyin?
I noticed the repetitive nature of the articles myself and wrote about it. Obvious mindf*cking attempt.
If so, it is time for a class action lawsuit against CNN.
This would be the the second time they’ve pulled a major hoax this primary season.
Amen. She isn’t going to release US.
Yes it’s yahoo and it’s questionable.
All our country’s troubles began when Pelosi took over. Gas prices off the charts and no impeachment and..on and on..she is behind all this election fraud and supports it whole heartedly.
Its not that its yahoo thats the problem its that there is an opinion piece saying she should and why from an anti clinton opinion writer and then 15 hours later it becomes news from an unnamed most likley pro obama inside source.
Something stinks and it aint Obama’s feet.
Last I check Pelosi has a rating of 17%…I hope those are the only people voting Obama…Mccain will win hands down in November.
Clinton needs to be the nominee…The Polls are calling her.
I think this is completely wrong. In fact this is completely indecent. She has been raped for her own party and in addition has she to pay for the broken glasses during the rape? This is the best example of different standars and rules and opportunities for women and men. Women are demanded to do things that is unfair they have to do.Completely unfair. This is not Democracy, not Rights.
Not so fast, gentlemen, for moments ago, the story changed a bit at CNN.com (emphasis added):
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton likely will release her delegates to Sen. Barack Obama, a Democratic official said Sunday, the eve of the Democratic National Convention.
Yet, that same link used to say something different:
Clinton to release her delegates to Obama - CNN.com
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will release her delegates to Sen. Barack Obama, a Clinton spokesman said Sunday, the eve of the Democratic National Convention.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/24/democrats.convention/ - 3 hours ago - Similar pages - Note this
What changed? Did someone from the Clinton campaign get in touch with CNN and ask them to edit this headline and piece?
Maybe more important, does this mean her release of these delegates is still up for discussion pending her meeting with them Wednesday morning?
Stay tuned.
PUMA
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give her a break… remember her friend that passed unexpectedly…
…
Thats completely uncalled for.
Its not like i am ringing her telephone.
If she scans the page she gets to see it if not she will see it when she checks her email.
Pleae dont ever presume to assume you need to give me an ettiquete lesson on how to respect those that are grieving.
Your comment implies that i am insensitive to her personal situation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
this is painful , she can release delegates but they have brain and they wont go to obama, Clinton 2012
Another thought. Just because she may say she PLANS to release delegates, doesn’t mean she WILL release delegates (IF SHE said it to begin with, yahoo isn’t the most reliable source, as you say).
This may prompt obi to not bother challenging any delegates which was one of the tricks up his sleeve. It MAY even be enough for Obama to try to One-up her and release his own first so that it’s a role call vote that he believes he’ll win and the buyer’s remorse delegates decide to go for Hillary. It would be even more effective if he releases his first and then she decides NOT to release hers afterall, leaving him with ZERO pledged delegates, making HER the presumptive candidate who will take over the convention, do away with the roll call like he wanted to and beat him at the very game he tried to play on her.
(yeah, I know it won’t happen, but for irony’s sake, you couldn’t ask for a better set up). Would make for a hell of a movie plot too. The candidate that was truthful and honorable yet accused of all the things her opponent actually did while he had his teflon suit on waiting until the very end to turn the game around on him right under his own arrogant nose with their little heads spinning like they were in the Exorcist movie. LOL
gee, maybe I’m a bit of a glass ‘half-empty’ kinda gal, but I tend to be suspicious of any comment that is accompanied by the phrase “an official… on condition of anonymity” .
CNN and the AP have gotten SO MUCH wrong this time around… so pardon my pessimism.
Hey, I could be wrong… I did think Gore was going to win……….. way back when.
PUMA
HopeForHillary ‘08
I also heard this on Fox.
He did win.
amen
derridog….
he did not “win”, as you say…he did however, STEAL. oh yeah…and LIE.
everyone knows it. the caucus gaming is now a movie…hold on to your hat on this one….hooboy…obobo is going DOOWWNNNN.
kool aid all around!
the guy is a typical politician of the chicago variety…know what i mean?
mr hopey-changey is a fraud of the most virulent kind.
JohnMac will win the GE. you can take that to the bank, laddie.
I think he meant Gore.
uppity you bet he’s abusive. He is running a campaign ad against Cindy McCain. There is no bottom to this man.
You’re right Silverfox!
But I think that derridog was talking about Al Gore winning in 2000.
He cheated… he lied… He’s a liar and a fraud.
Hillary can release her delegates… and I’m sure
they’ll make nice at the Convention…. Then, on that first Tuesday in November, people will cast their votes and there won’t be a thing any of you can do about it. No caucuses, no bus loads of imposters.
Zippo, nada!
Just the privacy of the voting booth.
Scared?
Oooooooh!!!!!!!!
You should be!
Enjoy your Convention.
It’s all you’ll have.
There won’t be an Inauguration.
See ya in 4 years.
In the meantime:
WIN WITHOUT ME!
Absolutely Mimi. In the privacy of that voting booth, people will remember.
Let the delegates walk out if she releases them.
See you on November 5.
jill — if its dirty it has the Obama campaign behind it. Today Axelrod said to Stephanopolis that they are ignoring PUMA and other Hillary supporters because they are getting more and more coming over to their side everyday. It will be a mute point in a couple of days. Soooooo Obama doncha think they are going to pretend that they are not losing millions of voters. Anything rather than do everything they can to soothe ruffled feathers. Obama deserves to lose.
Sorry Senator Clinton, I understand you have to do what you have to do but I own my own vote and will be voting for Senator McCain over waffles & co.
My sentiments exactly. I also do not plan on giving TV ratings to the UnDemocratic Convention coverage.
same here
Same here.
Unfortunately, same here. I hope for a better future for my daughter. I don’t believe that O would be even have a clue.
wodiej — same here
same here
hope — I will not watch one moment of this propaganda which passes for Democracy.
this is psyops… don’t believe it until you see it.
Kneecapping. Obama’s claim to fame. I hate him more every day. He is a very abusive man.
Uppity -
You gotta lie down to be a doormat and you don’t strike me as the mousey type.
Oblowme’s a creep though. No doubt about it.
But MEchelle is the brawn -
Oblowme’s just a sock puppet.
I served as a Clinton delegate to my county assembly and convention, to my house district and senate district assemblies and conventions, to my congressional district assembly and convention, and to my state assembly and convention.
I am happy that I did not campaign to go to the national convention. She could have released me, but I would have voted only “present.”
I agree, however, that she is acting, as usual, with all the class I’ve seen throughout the primary.
I will NOT vote for Obama during the general election.
HILL-A-REE
oh that would be so rich! To have the HRC delegates, once released, to vote PRESENT.
Ha ha ha ha…that would piss off barky so much but what goes around comes around.
I love it, LOL.
At the moment I figure I have two choices in November, just vote present or find a really fun felony to comit so they suspend my voting rights.
Just kidding.
One union member thanks you.
McCain/Clinton 08
Y NOT????
Y NOT????
Come on Sen. McCain
This would ensure you the title of Maverick for HISTORY times 10.
Remember,
Country BEFORE stupid PARTY!!
right?
right!
McCain/Clinton08
LOL, it’s funny to consider, but you know what? I’d donate every dime I had and campaign for them 24 hrs a day.
and I’d be right there with you doing the same!
I know. I know. It’s a fine line Hillary is walking.
Being a party player while still respecting her base supporters. One must always remember though- “Dance with the one that brung you”.
I am willing to bet good money that all this is being orchestrated by the thugs who have the DNC in a deathgrip right now.
They are screaming riots and retaliation if everyone doesn’t capitulate to their demands and fake it for the Fauxbama.
Nobody has anything to gain anymore in the DNC by fighting them. The Fix is in. All they can do now is resign themselves to it and make the best of it.
But i bet a whole lotta those people being strong armed to Prop up the Propoganda Puppet are going into that voting booth in November and returning the ultimate f*ck you to them. don’t worry.
One a side note, i bet there was an emergency meeting after the McCain Pass Over Ad and they called her and said you have to release your delegates or else!
But on a counterpoint, if she does release her deleagates and somehow there is still a roll call and she gets lots of votes thats even more crushing for the obama. Very Clever.
That sounds very logical. Hmmm…
My thought is, being the principled person Senator Clinton is, she will release the delegates so as not to jam them up.
It is clear the news of the “floor whips” groups roving the convention floor are meant to intimidate. Thats how these folks operate.
Same shit, different day. To think otherwise is pure folly.
As a Clinton delegate, it will appear to be like the caucus reduex. Hillary does not wish to invite the coming retribution that is coming.
godbless ya Senator Clinton. It’s all good.
Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvUP0myptUA.
Can’t have actual democracy breaking out at the Democratic Convention.
And I agree she is doing everything required and more.
This weekend Hillary and RFKJr were in CA trying to get the UFW to vote for Obama. The organization he stole his slogan from
Of course nothing in the national news but the bashing of her and her supporters for wanting a normal convention.
So when the Obots say she didn’t do enough.
In fact, Hillary was trying to hand Obama the Hispanic vote that supported her for President BEFORE the Convention.
An article about RFKJr speaking.
http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/817657.html
One article about Clinton and the UFW with a response about the delegates.
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_10292395
“When asked by the Associated Press after the speech what her plans were for her delegates, Clinton paused for a moment, smiled and continued shaking hands with supporters.”
Or if indeed her delegates can vote “present” and force a second ballot. That would not be such a bad idea if it is true that they must identify themselves in the roll call.
You have to understand the system to know the pressure they are putting on her. Furthermore, she’s no fool. The man has a bag full of kneecaps he is going to carry with his sorry ass back to Chicago thug land on November 5.
jeremiah — Its been roll call or no roll call for weeks. It changes every other day. However, they have now decided to ignore us all together. They don’t care what we think we have ceased to be. I bet Fox doesn’t ignore us. They say we are the key to the GE. 48% of Democrats will not vote for Obama. McCain is getting 24% and the rest will vote for others. That is the phrase anyway. I believe a bigger chuck is going for McCain and we are not changing our minds.
This makes me sad. It really makes me sad. Wake me up in 2012.
It’s horrible actually. But Hillary needs to survive to fight for us another day….. 2008 is lost, it’s been stolen out from under us. Pampers will lose come November. We will have another 4 years of Republican executive power. And we can all say ” I told you so.” All we can do is gather strength for 2012 ( McCain will be a one termer)Be prepared to fight and vow “Never Again”!
You are not alone Crystal.
Don’t do it. Four years of McCain and then Hillary 2012 is better than 8 years of Obama
8 years of Obama? Are you on crack? He won’t win a second term never mind a first.
No he won’t win 4 years never mind 8. And McCain will be a one termer. We will see Hillary in 2012.
Everyone remember: Hillary WON. Hillary won the popular vote. Hillary won the primaries. Hillary would have won the Electoral College. Hillary would have been President. Hillary is a winner!
Yes she is!!
Even if he does win he will only serve 145 days before moving on and running for Pope.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would he run for Pope?
He is the Messiah.
The Position of Pope is a downgrade.
I predict if he wins on day 144 (he only served 143 in the US senate before runnin off to do american presidential idol) a great light shines down from above and he ascends.
And THAT is the truth!
Hillary won the EV & the Popular vote.
Soetoro gamed the caucuses.
Soetoro is going to jail!
PUMA!
Country first.
LOL!!!!!
Yeah, only crack make a person utter such a thing.
Ahhh…she will live to fight another day, you can bet your bottom dollar on that!
We will be waiting for her come hell or high water…
When Barky loses in November, I’ll be the first one up the steps at the DNC with my Hillary sign. We will not forget.
Where will his supporters be? Licking their wounds and making excuses, Just wait, it will be everyone’s fault but their own.
I love it! Two days after the election, we can all gather at DNC headquarters with our Hillary signs and t shirts saying Hillary in 2012.
I’m in, are your?
tuppence — the key is to change the leadership of the Democratic Party and to contact President McCain to have him fill the vacant positions at the FCC with competent people who will hold the media’s feet to the fire. If you are a news organization you need to be doing news. Otherwise you can have your license yanked. They have treated McCain in the same shabby way they have treated Hillary–its about the fraud 24/7.
Look, On Nov. 4th we will dump that fraud….Shithead, Soetoro/Aka Obama.
Clinton delegates back Obama, but poll shows concern
Michelle Obama is viewed favorably by 81 percent of the delegates
It is very clear that the delegates have been asleep for the last year.
Whoever has the Whitey tapes needs to release them ASAP.
Obviously, the delegates do not keep up to date on current events.
Pinning your hopes on a non-existent tape is beyond pathetic.
So are you, Kelvin, so are you.
Pot meet kettle.
Wait till they get to know her…
john house — that is more propaganda from the Obama camp. Who like this woman? I would like to meet one person just one.
Why should Bill Clinton campaign for Barry?
Please, don’t do it Bill. You owe that loser nothing.
The reports are bogus. Clinton delegates are being contacted and reminded to vote for Hillary.
The source of the report is the same AP who claimed Hillary resigned on June 3rd.
Speak to delegates and do not listen to unknown sources unless Hillary comes out and says it herself.
After Gov Rendells lecture to the press today, expect the unexpected at the convention.
More dirty psychology from Obama and the DNC? Why am I not surprised?
Do you have a source?
This story makes me sick. After everything Hillary PERSONALLY did for me and the 18 million who voted for her and idolize her every move, it’s pathetic that the DemoBrats have made her do this.
http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/hillary-people
Spoke earlier to a friend who is a delegate in Denver right now, who is scared, has been called names by Obama people and who will not venture out alone after taking the hotel bus from the airport and Obama people on it just refused to shut up the entire way to the hotel.
When she was checking in, the Obama people on the bus returned to the airport.
ACORN is rampid in Denver.
Mel,
let me edit that for ya a little, if i may:
ACORN is rampid in Denver.
maybe:
ACORN is rabid in Denver.
Obots are riding the shuttle back and forth from the airport harassing delegates comming into town? If anyone is harrassed just call the cops.
Oh she can contact Christi of Clintons4Mccain. They have a great set-up near a police station in downtown Denver and are available perhaps to help match up other lone travelers.
rampant and rabid….perfect new word, rampid.
So they are just riding the bus harassing delegates?!
I will to hell I were there!!!
Oh, and Mel….thank your friend for us and say we are grateful!
I missed it. What did Ed say?
here, enjoy the read:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0808/Rendell_Obama_coverage_was_embarrassing.html
Thanks Mel.
I love Ed Rendell. Except for his small slip on the “hound” thing - he has been awesome.
don’t believe it. I know delegates who have been on calls with Hillary and she said nothing of the sort. The time of the roll call keeps on changing but they are on top of it.
Hang on folks, and get the popcorn ready. There are die hard Hillary delegates and they can not and will not be bullied. I expect DRAMA.
Mel, I saw the headliners speaking schedule through my window that peers into the Echo chamber…(TV)..
The batting order reflects Hillary and Bill doing warm up to Al Gore and BO. It is a statement that speaks for it self.
Bill and Joe… I’d like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
I am amazed that Senator Clinton is allowed into the convention…with the “strong” show for her delegates…NOT.
I fully expect BO to resmble something out of Alien …playing host to a very freaky parasite.
“…would you lock the door?…..
Will you you still need me, will you you still feed me, when I am sixty four?
No. The reports are true. Hillary is doing the right thing. You PUMAs need to do the same.
STFU—- Everyone can vote for her they want. And that includes the, I was an Obama supporter until ____________________ (fill in the blank).
Youre head is so far up your ass, shit comes out your mouth.
Was that even necessary? I come with logic and I get a childish tantrum. It’s truly sad.
fuck off troll.
Are you asking us to vote for a no good, ignorant, lieing, thieving, crook who is for late term abortion, FISA, and terrorists who’s real views of this country is hatred for America and it’s people? ‘You asking us to put aside our morals and vote for a despicable emissarry of the devil? YOU HAVE GOT to be kidding. You are kidding right? If not then you look morally bankrupt and foolish just like Obama.
You are indeed showing you are a cheap empty Republican suit.
Hillary is a firm defender of womens’ rights and therefore “pro late term” abortion.
How much did you donate to her campaign or were you too happily clapping the lies of PUMA big mouths who undermined her by claiming her debt was paid by July 4?
Clinton has acted with real class by not suing the pants off you.
Believe me. We ARE doing the right thing.
You need to shut up. People can do what they want.
Kelvin, go choke on a pretzel you troll.
Again, more childish outbursts. I feel sorry for you people. I truly do.
good.
feelin sorry?
then take your sorry ass back to
camp koolaid —-> that way.
Are you paid by the post or by the hour?
Is yor check from the Obama campaign or directly from Soros?
I do this for free. Although, I could use the extra income. As a member of the middle class and a homeowner who barely hanging on, I feel that voting for McCain is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders. It just doesn’t make sense. Had Hillary won, she’d get my vote because of the economy. I’d just have to swallow my foolish pride and do it. I can’t let that affect my judgment because I have a family that depends on me. I’d let them down by voting for the Neocons and their “take it or leave it” politics. I know that most of you PUMAs are in the same situation. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.
The reason ‘it just doesn’t make sense to you’.
You can’t ’swallow your foolish pride’ and admit the cold hard fact.
Obama simply doesn’t care about anyone but his money men.
I care about her campaign debts. I maxed out donations to her campaign. Have you?
PUMA did nothing but undermine Hillary - they lied about clearing her debts and lie about being Democrats.
What did Rendell say today? I can’t find anything
mel –AP is in Obama’s pocket. Smoke and mirrors to make Obama look inevitable and the party unified.
God cant stop the tears…I swear I held out hope that they would do the right thing. That for once money wouldnt over rule the fact that our country should come before any party. What world do we live in when the most experienced person for the job, cant get the job. But what hurts the most is that they achieved it by straight hard core fraud and all the evidence is right there.
This tells me alot. I dont care what anyone says, after 19 months I still have no idea who Senator Obama is. He did not answer questions or explain those donations from foreign countries, etc etc. Damn she has done EVERYTHING they have asked of her. Those delegates was the way to keep her promise to her supporters that she made when she suspended her campaign.
Obama supporters lurking out there, I hope he is worth it.
I know…I’ve been depressed all day. Can’t wait til this wretched week is over.
Be like the noon day sun socalannie…
Another path will appear shortly.
If you hear a rumble in the distance… it is the sound of a stampede of lemmings a comin’.
Like Bison on the prairies of old…
On a lighter note, there was a twister out side of Denver today…the cone of silence omen?
I’ve been a wreck all day, too. I never should have let myself get so emotionally invested in a political campaign that I took every setback as a personal attack on my own life!
Good - how will you feel come January at the start of an Obama Presidency?
We will know on Wednesday night as to whom
many of us including myself will be supporting.
In three days time, we will know it is either
Hillary of McCain. Obama must be defeated!
If McCain is smart he will NOT take Romney
but Crist or Palin. The GOP could use
alot of help at this time and a new face
would help. Also, they are not right wing like Bush is.
Don’t cry, sweetie!
He is.
P.S. You’re a loser.
no, but i know you are
{{{{{{{{{{{awww Soldier}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
It’s not over yet. It’s still Sunday. Have faith.
Rev. Wright’s book is coming out in October. I wonder if he will tell everyone about Obama and Donald Young’s relationship? How he was murdered last
December?? How Donald Young called Larry Sinclair?
I think Rev. WRight is going to spill his insides!!
The media should’ve vetted Obama. The American people
will be so disappointed. Just google it!!
bwah-hahahahahahahahaha!
Bye bte Barry!!!
I don’t trust CNN or anonymous sources.
On a different note, there is a new video circulating about the Larry Sinclair/Obama purported dalliance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmxyRmg3gcU
I came across this on another forum, HillaryClintonForum.net.
I believe nothing til I see and hear it…
BUT
Unity?
with the Barky & Joe Show?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Never, is never soon enough?
McCain 08
Clinton 12
More disinformation. Hillary told her delegates on th phone conference she was not releasing them.
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/hillary-says-therell-be-a-real-roll-call/
They’ve been lying ever since
The media has SERIOUSLY creeped me out in this election. Scares me actually. Thank God for the internet.
Here is where this story is likely coming from and being pushed by obama people.
This opinion was posted on Yahoo from Nation at 1:18 am sunday.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/348001/will_clinton_release_her_delegates
This Opinion Piece was then carried on Yahoo news here:
news.yahoo.com/story//thenation/20080824/cm_thenation/45348001
Then came the Chicago Sun Times story here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/1124075,clinton082408.article
Which came from AP:
Associated Press Writer
hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CVN_CLINTON?SITE=OHALL2&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Notice the posting times for the original opinion piece and the story.
News? Or Newsmaking?
Not Sure but what has the media got right this election season when it comes to pump and dumping for Senator Obamarosa Been lyin
Opinion at 1:18 am
News at 7:51 pm
Now that’s Change you can Believe In
John Nichols! I knew it.
That Bastayou know the rest has been hacking
away at Hillary since 2005. Nichols had the
audacity to say that only blacks have suffered
discrimination. The far left is just insane.
John Nichols was a writer I admired before he started huffing hopium.
I’m tellin’ ya, I’ve seen people who want power do some dirty shit. I’ve seen them spread rumors even lies about their opponents and all kinds of other evil things. But NEVER in my life have I see them do it like this in their own friggin’ party! It’s shameful, disgraceful and gives good Democrats a bad name. We aren’t like this!! Cheating, playing mind games w people, violence, threats, vulgarity and being sexist. The wrath of God is going to come down on Obama, his campaign and every single person who has willingly and knowingly engaged in this evil. It’s disgusting.
They are hoping by pushing this they make her look like a trouble maker if she doesn’t and undermine her support and her viability in the future.
These pieces of shit who have taken over the Democratic leadership are the biggest fucking liars and scumbags any party has ever seen come to power.
God Help the DNC if they succeed.
God help this country if they win.
Bingo! The same ploy Fraudbama pulled in Michigan trying to make it look as if Hillary did something wrong by NOT pulling her name.
thats right we arent like this….
is the :new: party…..its the new way!
puma proud and ashamed of the new democratic monsters
To quote my Mother: “If your friends were all jumping off a bridge would you do it?”
That sage advice sure makes sense now.
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.
NOBAMA NO WAY
what a bunch of sick little bastards they all are.
BREAKING NEWS , MCCAIN WILL ANNOUNCE TOMORROW THAT HE PICKED SARAH PALIN FOR VP :)) I HEARD IT FROM GOOD SOURCE , COMMENTS
If that’s the case, Barky might as just as well take another vacation and not even bother continuing with the campaign. He’s toast.
Sarah Palin is a guys gal. Have you seen her profile?
Sportsman (or is it Sportswoman?), avid hunter, nice family, smart.
She and her family are like real Americana. The kind of folks you want to have dinner with, and have no issues with your kids paling around with her kids.
I really like that pick. A lot.
Who is Palin, you guys? I’ve heard her name before, but forgot.
Sarah palin, Governor of Alaska.
http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php
Sarah is heavily involved in issues of energy, natural resources and conservation. These are prime in todays political climate.
If Sarah is Pro Life, she may be a shoe in.
Palin could steal the “Change” and “Washington Outsider” mantle completely away from Odorky and Joe Bob.
This pick would be nothing short of BOLD and Brilliant.
She likes the Obama energy plan as well
And she’s HOT. Talk about McCain and a bunch of hotties behind him (his wife, his daughter, his VP pick)…that would be THE awesomest thing ever.
Except for those stupid glasses and the female republican dress code. What the hell? I guess she’s trying to look as none sexual as possible…then she does the cover of Vogue, if I remember correctly. Go figure.
Palin won’t be picked, even if she’s hot. Read and discuss….
http://www.ktva.com/CommissionerControversy
I see… and compare that to TUCC, Revy Wrighty, Joe “Hearts MBNA” Biden.
You are picking a nit. And it came from your ass. Don’t forget to wash little boy!
Kelvin, that’s the best you can do? A reference to a possible low level case of nepotism compared to Rezko and Ayers and God knows what else?
Here is the Vogue cover.
http://www.parentdish.com/photos/alaska-governor-sarah-palin/690775
And you bunch of hypocrites say you are against sexism?
Supporting a candidate who pimps his wife out as a stripper and a potential VP because she “is hot”?
Yeah great.
You want Breaking News? Here you go!
Associated Press
November 4 2008 @ 11:17 pm
Sounds great.
Sounds great to me too. Only I don’t think there needs to be a watch.
Love it!!
I hope not - she’s being investigated in an abuse-of-power scandal up there in Alaska right now. I hope the McCain folks know what they’re doing.
Oh waaaaaaaah. Women scorned hardly compares to all of the shit Obama’s been up to his eyeballs in.
Fine, but the “she’s less of an unethical nitwit than he is” strategy is not particularly compelling.
Did her trooper ex-brother-in-law admit to Tazing his kid? No wonder she wanted to fire him.
Quoting the Wisdom of Mother:
“If your friends were all jumping off a bridge would you do it?”
That sage advice sure makes sense now.
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.
NOBAMA NO WAY
Sorry for the double post.
I added the comment once, but Wordpress said I already posted it. But it did not show up. Tried that again three times, and the comment was still not there.
Changed the wording, and poof.. Both show up.
Weird.
Johnny at Work,
Must be the “Floo Powder” …
Magical dust which allows the wizard to use fireplaces to move from one location to another. The wizard floo system can be monitored for activity.
I,too, am having trouble posting on this site!
Although my daughter who works in Washington has a ring sized seat at the convention, I will be at at home not even watching the fiasco. CNN says that Obama and McCain are in a dead heat. This does not bode well for Obama. If the super-delegates do not nominate Hillary this week, I will be campaigning for McCain after next week. My daughter will be shocked because she has grown up in a house of life long Democrats but this time it just won’t happen. There is just too much at stake to trust our nation to an unknown rookie with no experience or track record of anything to be president. Plain and simple really.
Catherine: I think a lot of us are in the same boat. I’m not telling anyone that I’m voting for McCain. People where I am from think that anyone who votes Republican is evil. I used to think that way too before this election. There is just no way I will ever support the DNC and how they helped this fraud steal the nomination. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of Clinton supporters who say they will vote for Obama but will secretly vote for McCain once they are behind the curtain or will just stay at home because they aren’t enthusiastic enough to drive to the polling place.
Hopefully these citizens can be convinced somehow to get to the the polling places though because from what I understand, staying at home only helps Obama. Obama people are registering prisoners and other people who typically do not vote promising them all kinds of things if they vote for Obama. It is shameful really. The UN really should be called in to monitor the expected fraud that could take place especially in the battleground states. People have to understand this, keep the pressure on, and not sit home.
yes we need enough votes to offset the cheating that will take place from Obama camp.
So will Soetoro release his delegates — that would be the fair thing to do.
But that dirty Chicago dirt bag plays dirty.
So I still won’t vote the that Soetoro monster from Chicago.
Country first.
Explain to me how Obama’s a monster? Please?
he created pod people like you.
That still doesn’t answer my question.
Repeatedly subverting democracy to win….while so many have lost their lives to protect the right to vote.
OOOOhh…. A dagger right into Hearts heart.
cheap empty suit — Remember the Republicans will be monitoring this election and if its one thing they understand its cheating.
Oh God you are so uninformed that you want to come here and have someone explain how wrong Obama is to lead anything including a dog pound?
Go read the book by Jerome Corsi or Andy Martin.
That’s the quickest way for you to find out the FACTS about your candidate. LOL
How deos it feel to now have a VP who is old world Washington, who voted for the Iraq war, FISA, Bush Cheney’s gas & oil bill, and is literally broke? You have been punked by your candidate. Time for the fallout.
Screw Corsi. Just read the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times.
Do your own damned research, cultroll.
Read Tarpley’s book, OBAMA: A Postmodern Coup.
Corsi - the right wing bigot shamed for making racist posts? Whose book is from the same bunch of creeps that said Clinton puts crack pipes on her Christmas Tree.
Isn’t he the same man who no longer claims to post bigoted rubbish on the net, but then appears on the White Nationalist James Edwards show - “The Political cesspit”? How fitting for this site. To be associated with white nationalists and the political cesspit.
How is that whitey tape doing again?
If this is all the Rethugs have, they will be out for at least 4 terms and those who needed the Rethugs to get CIA jobs will probably have to retire.
Yes Obama won with the help of the super delegates and Hillary took the popular votes.
This is what is so weird about the whole election.
Neither one actually won the delegates without Super Delegates and most of the Super Delegates did not vote the way the people they represented did.
Yet Hillary won the Popular vote. You know even if it was the other way around I think I would still think this is one crazy election.
Then you add on top of all this Obama glorious friend/mentors, questionable background, unanswered legal question…This whole thing just does not make sense.
I think there are probably many out there who were riding the fence and are still riding the fence who are still wondering what the Hell the DNC is up to.
Please understand the DNC is holding a gun to Hillary’s head.
What you are seeing is a hostage video.
They are telling her you must do this or else. She has no choice.
But we are free to vote whoever we wish.
McCain 08!
Hillary 2012!
Hostage video!?! Seriously?
go away troll. If you dont want the truth go get your fill of koolaid at Daily Kos.
WHy do you insit on coming here? There is no gun to your head making you read NQ.
Go Away…your time will be better spent painting hopey changey posters for the obama
You’re right. You PUMAs are just so darn funny! I can’t resist the chance to mock you guys. I even added you to my favorites.
Waste your time all you like. You don’t matter to me. You can mock whatever you want. But you will never feel fulfilled if thats what your life is about. No wonder you need the Obama to save you from yourself.
by conducting herself in the most dignified and unifying manner possible, preserving all of her options for the future. And for us, as her supporters.
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Maybe for you- but I feel she conduct herself as weak woman. Something that I never thought she would be. The “in love” that we had for her- has disappeared and the only thing that is left is her ignorant thinking that she makes her think that she has respect from that corrupted party. In our opinion she has shown that ambition is more important than her country. She knows about his iniquities , she knows about his birth certificate, she knows about his ties which are bad for our country, but, yet, she rather sell her country than “keep her mouth from speaking lies.” My respect for her “went out the window” today! And hopefully all the Judeo-Soldiers of Yeshua in the grassroots will never forget this stab in the back by Hillary Clinton. 2012- is dead for us.
There are times I am think similar to you and then I wonder if she speaks out what will happen.
Look at it even Bill who doesnt hold anything back is silent right now.
Srry guys but I sometimes wonder if there is something going on that is about to shake the very foundations of our country.
Think about it guys. Look at all the press in the tank, look at all the unanswered questions, look at Obama’s record, his friends/mentors and etc. From what I can see Obama’s credentials look alot like some other world leaders but not ones within free countries.
This thought has crossed my mind too. With troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, South Korea, Japan, Germany…ships off the coast of Iran and Georgia. Russia making serious threats to us and our allies…there’s a lot to be silent about. The serious mistake of an infant gaining the role of POTUS just is mind-numbing. Yet the DNC keeps marching down this wayward path. Hell, and I didn’t even mention the economy.
I’m just in awe of the stupidity.
Soldier of Christ?
Judeo Soldiers of Yeshua?
I think you were on tv. It’s all too dark sided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCh2FXzD6R4
WTF? Why does everyone place blame on Senator Clinton? She has to dance to her parties tune. Thats why I am angry because no matter how hard she works what she does its just never good enough for them
The Roman historian Tacitus records that the city of Rome had a specific place for carrying out executions, situated outside the Esquiline Gate wiki
When will they learn?
oh mister, you are more full of shit than a Thanksgiving turkey.
yeah, march on, soldier, right
what a joke you are!
There is more than meets the eye. Evil Pelosi is as conniving, power hungry and crooked as they come and she is Orchestrating the show-not Obama.
We still don’t have answers to all the deaths and threats. An insider in WA DC said HRC was getting threats during the Indiana Primary and she still went to the finish line for us. There is alot yet to be revealed.
It’s the media. Hillary couldn’t get a message out if she wanted to.
PUMA, NoDeal and the New Agenda can…this is the way new movements work.
Bottom up, not top down.
I’m not even going to be moved in one direction or the other by this sort of report. The thing is there are not enough delegates to be released to help Obama.
This is all one big sham.
Hillary’s supporters are united against Obama and that’s just how it is. I’m sorry Hillary can bet the Democratic Party Wonder Woman - we are not going to allow the thug holding her captive win and destroy the country.
Comment by MikeB | 2008-08-24 20:20:21
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She has a choice! Make a speech about the country and the love for it- thank the 18 million and than take a bow. That is all she has to do. No-one is pressure to say “vote for Obama”. Hillary Clinton is doing this on her own and for ambition. I am so deeply disappointed in my idol. A woman who we continuous blogged for over one year. She sold out her people- simply as that- stop making excuses for her weakness.
No, she didnt sell anyone or anything out. I have sat here for over a year and listened to people use the word “racist” as a political strategy and tool. No YOUR a sell out for trashing her! How many Democrats did you see fighting on her behalf during the primaries when every damn supporter were called “racist” even the black ones such as myself.
Hell yes I am pissed off because its not like the evidence dont exist that Obambi is a fraud. No one had the balls to open there mouth and speak out. Now is NOT THE DAMN TIME! People like this is pathetic. Place the blame on Senator Clinton instead of where its due.
When you watch the best person to accomplish a job get shafted and screwed over because Senator Obama was bringing in large sums of money, you DONT want here crap from his supporters. These assholes have lied cheated threatned attacked AND hacked accounts.
Did anyone say anthing? Did anyone acknowledge it? No they didnt say a word but “fall in”. Go gloat somewhere else. You supporters are NEVER satisfied
Soldier- I have been blogging longer than you and my name soldier has been noted over two years on blogs. I think you need some manners. I love your video and hope you respect my religious upbringing and my opinon. If the truth bothers you, I only hope Yeshua gives you some comfort tonight and forgives you for being so negative to my opinion. If bringing the truth of Hillary weaknesses offends you, than forgive me for upsetting you. But, each of us, whether scolding her, should be able to express ourselves. By the way, soldier- I am colored!
THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, DEAR “Soldier of F*cking Christ”
oh mister, you are more full of shit than a Thanksgiving turkey.
yeah, march on, soldier, right
what a joke you are!
Man you are snippy and self righteous. What are you doing on this Anti-Obama site? People don’t like Obama and you are in the wrong place here.
We are used to all you trolls, “soldier.” Yawn. You got tired of wearing a dress and pretending to be a woman so now you dress up in a faux uniform. Run along to the m4m military studs site if you get off on it so much.
Oh, and for all my PC pals, that was a anti-Gannon reference.
mercedes — the one who will be pushing hardest for these scandals to sink Obama will be Biden. Its going to get real interesting–being that the same people who pushed for Obama also made Biden the VP nominee. Yes guys the Chicago Machine. So says Democratic operative Pat Caddell.
Go sit on your sword, “soldier.”
I hope Jeeeesus PERSONALLY meets you at the Pearly Gates and tells you the elevator is over yonder–get in it and push the BASEMENT button–asshole.
You’re “colored” all right–you are the color of TROLL.
I am so deeply disappointed in my idol…
Respectfully, these are your shadows being cast. What truths were revealed by Hillary Clinton are many. Her travels are a harbinger of things to come.
Idolize if you will, but take heed. Her absence will allow the full exposure of the abyss that is BO, who is about to lift the lid of the Arc of Covenant….
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Sen. Hillary Clinton has never been a problem for the democrats, they the DNC has always been their own problem.
The DNC with the current leadership will find a way to lose the comming general election.
If the looming scandals on Obama’s horizon are as bad as some of the posts on this website have suggested, then I am hoping that Obama will be forced to withdraw as the Democratic nominee sometime between now and November. Then what?
Heidi Li, JD PhD raised the question on her website,
“what happens if after the Democrat Convention this coming week or after the Republican Convention in early September, the official nominee of either Party becomes unavailable before a President-Elect is elected by the Electoral College? My best informed understanding of the answer follows.”
She suggests that it would be up to each Party to name a replacement candidate according to their own procedures.
I would be happy to vote for a Biden/Clinton ticket or a Clinton/Biden ticket.
I am hoping that Obama’s little slip where he introduced Biden as the next president of the US reflected what he actually knows or believes. Also, that absurd response of his to the Saddleback question of what advisors he would trust in the White House, namely Michele and his Grandmother!!!!??, was either a conscious or subconscious acknowledgement of defeat.
I don’t think it is outrageously farfetched to think along these lines because the Democrats will certainly lose if Obama withdrew or bowed out before Denver….because of the race issue. It would not be a pretty scene.
But, they will certainly win if Hillary is on the ticket with or without Obama.
All this speculation, of course, stems from assuming the Obama scandals are as potent as suggested.
The winning ticket to ensure sixteen future years of Dem rule was ALWAYS CLINTON in the lead role, Obama as VP.
Not reversed, no Biden, none of that crap–Biden would be a better SECSTATE or UN ambassador, if he could learn to control his pompously pooping mouth.
Of course, Obama was overanxious, and elements in the DNC just couldn’t BEAR the WJC legacy of results, results and more results, which came about as a consequence of a philosophy that included ideas like “Listen to your opponents and understand their concerns,” and “Slow and steady wins the race.”
Obama and his supporters, though, have been so vicious, vitriolic and underhanded that they may have broken the whole business, but good.
Is this the same as when ALL big media kept stating she was going to drop out (right before a primary of course) and it was not true?
Is big media doing the same thing to us again?
Comment by Let Freedom Ring | 2008-08-24 20:30:47
There are times I am think similar to you and then I wonder if she speaks out what will happen.
Look at it even Bill who doesnt hold anything back is silent right now.
Srry guys but I sometimes wonder if there is something going on that is about to shake the very foundations of our country.
Think about it guys. Look at all the press in the tank, look at all the unanswered questions, look at Obama’s record, his friends/mentors and etc. From what I can see Obama’s credentials look alot like some other world leaders but not ones within free countries.
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Interesting thoughts. I don’t think it is that bad.
CNN poll: Post-Biden poll shows dead heat
I guess adding the gasbag to his ticket isnt getting him any better mileage.
In the end — the gasbag Bidet was probably the only one who would agree to be the stupid one’s vp.
Bidet and Soetoro — jokes, both of them.
Women have long memories — and we remember Anita Hill and the male chauvinist gang of 14.
Many younger women don’t remember or could care less — and to these twits — go fight your own battles. I don’t care about you giggling twits following after a stupid male who hates women. The the younger women who DO know the history of Clarence Thomas and Bidet PLEASE educate your sisters. They are young and stupid now — but someday they will grown up and realize that they aren’t gotten anywhere — that the young guy has taken the very job that should have been theirs. It happens to ALL women.
In college studies show that the Profs respond to the male students significantly more than the female students. No wonder some women use their bodies to get through college. The silly girls in college don’t even realize that they being discriminated against — starting in grade school. It is so common that the girls don’t even see the discrimination.
To me the pay discrepancy of the Obama & McCain female staffers speaks volumes about the character of Obama and McCain.
The choice of Obama sadly means a lot more death and hardship for millions of women — a female US President with empathy could have made a change for the better in women’s lives. But the greedy creeps in the DNC don’t give a damn. The DNC must be cleaned of the garbage. I’d like to see the whole lot marched through the streets and then left in skidrow somewhere to live on the streets.
Hillary will do what she has to do — WE PUMA have to do what is best for the country and our future.
PUMA
“Many younger women don’t remember or could care less — and to these twits — go fight your own battles. I don’t care about you giggling twits following after a stupid male who hates women. ”
My sentiments exactly. Let the bridezillas fight their own battles.
Twits describes them to a T. You should hear them on the open mic, reading “poems” about how some married geezer makes their panties wet.
Then you should see their chins hit their titties when I read my response poem. Tough love, you know. It’s their only … hope.
PREACH.
No matter what she does, she is screwed. The DNC will never allow her to be the presidential nominee. All I hear on every network is blame the Clintons. How could these 2 people be held responsible for the entire democratic party making fools of themselves?
Earlier today, Tweety and company said PUMAs were not mad at Obama or the DNC, they were only mad at the media. Are they nuts? They also said we are committed democrats and will vote for obama in Nov. because we had nowhere else to go. When will they realize we’ve already gone some place else?
Great comment.
“They also said we are committed democrats and will vote for obama in Nov. because we had nowhere else to go.”
I don’t know about the rest of you PUMAs but that makes me pretty damned mad at the media.
Dean, and Pelosi, and the Chicago gang would not be able to pull their thuggery without the media’s complicity.
For these fools, denial ain’t just a river.
Like you said, they’re so far gone in denial that they don’t see that we’re already gone. Like an ex who just can’t accept the fact that the relationship is over.
But what else can the stupid media & Obamabrats do or say? They’re finished - and despite their denials, deep down inside they know it too. So they’re grasping at straws.
kcfromtx — So they are back to dishing out that crap. We will vote for Obama because we have nowhere to go–like hell we don’t. I am voting for McCain because he is a good American. See tweety I have somewhere to go.
As far as the media and the Obots acknowledging that Hillary is without question a class act and more of a TRUE democrat than the Dean/Pelosi/Obama cabal ever was I have to say that even if Hillary had the cure for cancer in one hand and the cure for AIDS in the other the pathological haters would STILL find “excuses” to continue their attacks.
No Hillary? No democrat victory this year!
PUMA!!!!
Ed Rendell talks about how biased networks were toward Obama. http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0808/Rendell_Obama_coverage_was_embarrassing.html
DUMB!
Obama has done everything he can to humiliate Hillary.
Hillary has accepted each insult and inspired her followers with the quiet dignity with which she has born each new cross.
Every spiteful thing Obama and the corrupt DNC has done, only serves to unite us in our resolve to deliver a resounding defeat to them in November.
The Obama Camp will loose, and loose big in November because we will see to it that they do.
After the fall we will take back the Party and purge it.
Between now and November 4th will be the hard times, the dark times. We must shore up our resolve by remembering that no matter how hard it is for us, it is all that and a thousand fold for the Clintons.
Remember, NO QUARTER!
Don’t accept any and don’t give any.
All idle threats are just another form of vanity.
The only power we have is the power of our vote.
If we stick together it will be enough to make this happen.
Hang on in the coming weeks when there is nothing in you, except the will that says to you, “Hang On”!
THE STORY IS A FAKE!
ITS AN OPINION PIECE BY NICHOLS POSTED at 1 AM SUNDAY TURNED INTO A NEWS STORY BY AN OVER EAGER UNNAMED PRO OBAMA SOURCE AT 7 PM SUNDAY!!
UNTIL IT COMES FROM THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN OR AN OFFICIAL SURROGATE ITS BOGUS!!!
Stephanopoulos: No Roll Call Vote for Clinton?
“The whole idea of a roll call vote could be in flux at this point,” Stephanopoulos told ABC’s Charles Gibson on World News Sunday night.
“The Clinton people here, they’ve said they wanted catharsis, they wanted that roll call, but they may not get it,” Stephanopoulos said, describing the decision as one being discussed at the highest levels of Clinton’s camp. “They don’t want to be blamed for any trouble at this convention.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
See? Its coming from the obama people pushing. And they are trying to now back out of allowing the roll call and want Hillary to release the delegates as the means to do that.
I told you it was a Gun to Her Head strategy.
Really i dispise these fascist Pod People that have suddenly taken over the party.
With the emgerence of modern mass of lies over the television, with each network asserting the superiority of each competitor, even our own children have learned to take all these lies with a grain of salt. For us, liberal networking is the leader of our country. There is the constant danger that we unconsciously drift into the frame of “no G-d in we trust” in our land. Hillary to us was like the little ant who carried us on top of her back and when came across a crack on the ground, she was able to lift us over. Well, little did we know that the strength that we admire so much in her was sucked out of her by her own weakness. She always talked about turning burdens into bridges and having Obama at the wheel stirring our country’s ship will only crash into one of those bridges. In moments like this we are experiencing the piercing pang of pain which cries out: “Why they you sell us out to this corrupt people that did everything in their power to take the presidency from you? Has it every occurred to you that we, too, have a share in the responsibilty of keeping our country safe too?” It is up now to the grassroots, Puma, republicans, ex-democrats, and independent to save our country from this scary man, named Barack H Obama.
blah blah blah
you are STILL
more full of shit than a Thanksgiving turkey
Fox news says wed. CNN said as early as Monday mornings 8:00am( I think they were guessing.)
I heard they are giving the delegates a hard time just like in Texas.
30yrdem-not any more;
Caucus Reduex
muddy waters & clapton
doin what BO will never be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-gkIjp9lYc&feature=related
Kevin DeYoung and Ted Kluck just released a great book on the growing Socialist Christian movement and what a load it truly is. Why We’re Not Emergent. It is a must read.
Forget the Dems…it is not the party we knew…
CNN poll: Post-Biden poll shows dead heat
Posted: 06:25 PM ET
From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/24/cnn-poll-post-biden-poll-shows-dead-heat/
This looks like a step backward for Obama, who had a 51 to 44 percent advantage last month,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
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Now we need some brave Journalist (beside Sean H. our hero from Fox) to talk about Obamanation and the forged birth certificate- the “down low” secret life, the singing of the arabic calling to prayer (which the New York times refuse to release) and his rates will definitely fall to 35%.
When you look at the polls being in a tie,after the announcement of Biden, being Obama’s VP,I think people are waiting for the Final announcement that this is the ticket;If it is,I can see Obama’s polls fall further,as people are still in anticipation,that clinton could still win.They were talking on Fox,and said the polls normally go up at convention..I can see Obama proving them wrong,and the polls tank on Thursday nite…
The best thing we can expect is Obama drop out,and say that Hillary won the popular vote.
Clinton
Biden
What kind of ticket is this
I think I saw where Bill Clinton got a 30 point bounce after the convention in 1992?? I could be wrong about that. I know it was big.
I wonder how Obama will compare.
Not that size matters…
Clinton Biden? Oh Hell No!
Send that gas bag back on the bus.
I rather turn off my television than to see her give us a speech of unity. All the cheers will be loud, Obama and his racist wife in the back taking pins and putting them in the Hillary doll that the voodoo man gave them. Everytime they want to hear Hillary say “we must unite with the next President- *&(&& ouch! goes the pin- “with the next President, Barack Obama”! She yells out to her supporters.
No thank you. I think I heard enough!
We’ve heard enough from you. You keep saying the same thing and no one cares.
This should be interesting concerning the KY delegate that was replaced:
Taken from the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2008 Democratic Convention
Rule 18, part D, number 2
http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/de68e7b6dfa0743217_hwm6bhyc4.pdf
A permanent replacement occurs when a delegate resigns or dies prior to and
during the National Convention and the alternate replaces the delegate for the
remainder of the National Convention. Any alternate who permanently replaces a
delegate shall be certified in writing to the Secretary of the DNC by the State
Democratic Chair. He/She shall be of the same presidential preference (including
uncommitted status) and sex of the delegate he/she replaces, and to the extent
possible shall be from the same political subdivision within the state as the
delegate; except in the case where the presidential candidate has only one
alternate, in which case, that alternate shall become the certified delegate.
Check rule 20 for challenges as well. The KY delegate was replaced illegaly according to the DNC’s own rules and bylaws.
Yes, she conducted herself with the utmost dignity. She did for Obama more than anyone before her. I remember Ted Kennedy and his shameful behavior in 1980. I remember Hart and his shameful behavior and i remember Jesse Jackson and his shameful behavior.
No one of this supposed icon of the democratic party endorsed the nominee before the convention. All of them, endorsed the nominee during or after the convention. All of them had role call vote and actually Kennedy did not endorse Carter at all in 1980.
Yes, Senator Clinton, bless her heart, behaved with the utmost dignity and yet these motherfuckers keep asking for more. What the fuck do you want from her? Tell me, what the fuck the you want for the woman?
I will Laugh my ass off if after the DNC Convention obama does NOT get a bump.
No amount of EXTENZE-ive coverage will enhance Obambi’s little bump.
Fred Obama doesn’t want the roll call. First of all because the media said he was weak to give air time to the Clintons and second of all because he knows that she is more popular than he is and he can’t handle it. Unity my ass! They can’t decide from one minute to the next what to do. Hillary would not let us down. She is being forced to give up the roll call vote. Oh I hope they lose in a landslide. Lets ignore 18 million voters ha. Let us 18 million voters ignore the Democratic Party in November.
Your correct. Hillary is being forced to give in. The new Democrat Party if it can even be called the Democrat Party would use her resistance as a chance to get rid of her and Bill once and for all.
Our only hope now is McCain wins so Hillary can go again in 2012.
Obama is a Manchurian Candidate out to destroy all we hold dear.
Hillary has to say not to vote for her or they won’t allow the roll call. I know she would want the supers to vote for her though. She is just getting heat from Obama, Biden and Donna Brazille. Let’s remember Howard Dean wants his boy to win too! She is just playing the game or they would find a way to stop the roll call.
I’m sure you have probably seen this. This is the reason Obama picked Biden.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4610
This is the link I meant to attach!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4610
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4620
For all the links not embedded in this article please actually visit the above link.
Will Obama Ever Face the Press?
By JB Williams Sunday, August 24, 2008
It is very troubling that a man is seeking the office of Commander-in-Chief of the United States at a time when he will confront lethal threats against the nation from the most brutal tyrants around the globe, yet he is openly afraid to face the unfriendly news reporters at FOX News Network…
He thinks he can handle Al Qaeda, Hamas, Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Kim Jon Il and Russian aggression, but admittedly can’t handle Bill O’Reilly?
Even Hillary Clinton was brave enough to sit and field open questions from FOX News, which she did very well by the way. I’m a conservative, so I’m not a Hillary supporter. But I must say that Hillary handled herself quite well in FOX interviews, a room Obama won’t even set foot in. Obama is the only candidate in history who has refused to answer FOX News questions.
Are we really going to elect a war time president who is afraid of FOX News?
What is Obama so afraid of?
The answer to this question is obvious. FOX might be the only news service in America that would dare to ask Obama the most important questions surrounding his quest for the highest office in our land. Every news service should be asking these questions, but clearly no other news room is going to ask anything that might upset Obama’s apple cart.
My most recent column, Exactly How Biased is the American Media? spelled out the cold hard facts of just how left-wing the modern American media really is today. Most Americans correctly assess the American media as “in the bag for Obama.” But few Americans have any idea of the depth to which their suspicions are right, or what Obama stories lurk that would likely derail his campaign if the press would ever confront the candidate with those stories…
Questions any candidate should have to answer!
Feeling the walls closing in on his empty résumé after a horrific performance at the Saddleback debate last week, Obama held the press captive all week long awaiting his hi-tech announcement of a VP running mate. It should shock no one that Obama settled on career left-wing attack dog Joe Biden, who would immediately assume the task of attacking all who might attack Obama, leaving Obama above the fray and far from confronting his demons.
So far, the press is following their DNC marching orders and focusing all attention on Biden as if he were the one seeking the Oval Office. The ploy worked and Obama has bought more time, kicking the can down the road far enough to skate through the DNC convention without having to confront any of the stories or questions that could make him an easy target for a Clinton Coup on the convention floor.
But any presidential candidate should have to face the press on some of the most damning stories to ever surround a presidential wannabe.
Real Stories ignored by the Obama-Press
Obama’s Lost Annenberg Years Coming to Light – And so is the current cover-up effort to bury this story.
Lawsuit - Obama NOT US Citizen – This suit was filed 8/21/08, only days before the DNC convention, by Pennsylvania former Assistant AG and Clinton supporter, Philip J. Berg, Esquire. Download this file (ObamaComplaint.pdf)
Download this file (ObamaComplaint.pdf) Complaint for declaratory and injunctive relief
Obama’s Muslim heritage - Candidate Obama has repeatedly denounced his Muslim heritage, but his own books say something quite different. He hinges his Christian heritage on his membership to the Rev. Wright’s racially charged anti-American church, which he also denounces now. He now says his mother was a Kansas Christian, but she was actually a devoted atheist and his father’s were all Muslim.
Obama’s Communist Connections – The Communist Party USA, Socialist Party USA and Democratic Socialists of America support Obama’s campaign. Obama’s father and mother were communist activists. His life heroes are Weatherman William Ayers and communist Saul Alinsky. Research the communist practice “community organizing,” Obama’s leadership claim to fame.
Obama’s connection to his African cousin Odinga - and the thousands murdered in pursuit of socialist power in Africa.
Part II
Obama’s Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes
Obama crime connections
These are just the top stories that present very real and valid questions. The press would happily use any one of them to destroy almost any other politician. The collective list would be impossible to ignore by any honest journalist. But all of these stories have been buried by the Main Stream press for months now.
Will Obama be allowed to waltz into the White House without ever being directly confronted on any of these very real concerns about his fitness or eligibility for the highest office in the land?
If it is up to the lamestream press, Obama will become our next president without ever having to answer any of these serious charges.
Are American voters going to sit on their hands and allow their press to bury all of it in support of their chosen Messiah?
Best I can tell, Barack Obama is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated upon American voters and the press is going to continue providing aid and comfort to his efforts to defraud American voters.
In an ideal world with a truly honest, fair and balanced press, all of these questions would have already been asked and answered. But they have never been asked and unless the American people demand that they are asked, they will never be fully answered.
If Obama has nothing to hide, why is he hiding?
If the press has nothing to cover-up, why are they providing cover by not asking the questions?
I don’t care what political party you belong to. If you are willing to elect a president surrounded by so many allegations without even asking the questions, you are NO American!
If Obama has a good answer for all of these allegations, I want to hear them. But he will never answer any of them without being asked. Send a copy of this column to your legislators and media contacts and demand that American voters get straight answers to these questions before this guy becomes the DNC nominee. Once he’s the nominee, if this stuff goes mass media, it will not only destroy his campaign, but the party who helped him hide from the truth as well…
Even Obama supporters should want the answers to these questions before their party is backed into a corner after the convention…
Send it everywhere today and demand answers, before it’s too late to ask!
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No, why should he? Even the press themselves have said that they don’t want to know.
I am watching the video’s on ‘We will not be silenced’ and howard dean and friends should be put on trial and if convicted sent to jail for election fraud.
I hope mccain uses these videos in his adds, especially in the caucus states.
Yes, they should. They are liars and crooks and should be held accountable!
Hillary is our only hope!
“Obama has done everything he can to humiliate Hillary.”
So very true and all he has done is to galvanize our resolve NOT to vote for him Nov. It’s not so much that Obambi has no clue how much further he has galvanized us, it’s his arrogant mindset that thinks he can chit on anybody and get away with it.
My god, even Republicans can see how much Obambi and crew have chit on Hillary, it goes beyond political beliefs, it goes down to core fundamentals of being a human being in at least a some what fair fashion.
Obambi won’t be POTUS this Nov., that’s a given for sure and from Jan 2009 to 2012 his whole corrupt mafia style Chicago combine will be routed out, demolished and ravaged until NOBODY will ever want to utter the word Obambi, Dean & company again. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that mindless egocentric idiot Obambi along with Dean & company have brought about. They wasted the whole 2008 election cycle because they wanted a power grab compliments of the AA community, who themselves have been nothing but pawns in this whole facade.
I certainly don’t see eye to eye with McCain on a host of issues but WTF, I’ll take 4 years of McCain before I REWARD crooks like Obambi, Dean & company.
The sentiment is changing folks, many of us didn’t like Obambi, Dean & company before but I think it’s now moving to a deep hate as the SLIME against Hillary increases and we are all more aware of the tactics that have no end in sight.
The privacy of the voting booth come Nov will give me my chance to smack Obambi upside the head with my vote against him!! Nov can’t come soon enough!
Explain how he humiliated her. By defeating her?
Classiest. Move. Ever.
Undercover Blackman,
You come here talking Classy Move? Take your double identity back to your therapy session. Don’t think we don’t remember you and your crap you have said for sooooo long about Hillary.
Go back and tell them we are STILL NOT GETTING OVER IT even if she releases her delegates.
You Undercover Blackman need to go back to both your blogs and friggin stay there cuz we don’t need you talking classy shit about her now after you said all the crap you have for so long. And, uh, your boi still sucks.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
Unlike you, OTAI, I have no problem giving credit where it’s due.
And I promise you this: If Obama loses in November, I will take it like a grown-up. Unlike your foul-mouthed self.
This man is lying, aren’t you, Undercover PIG?
You are the foulest of the foul.
This pig of a troll has been haunting a women’s site, telling the women there he’s going to shove their faces in this and that, and besides this violent and vulgar threat, he’s actually stalked one of the women, following her to other sites and naming her on sites where she’s not posting.
Why must he be a liar? He is describing how an adult handles a loss. He won’t cry or make up and spread false rumors about that person. They don’t support bogus lawsuits against those people. They don’t believe homosexual felons with 27 year criminal records. You PUMAs are behaving like spoiled children.
Kelvin,
You need to not defend this person because you do not know his history. He is a dangerous person regardless of who he supports for prez. No joking on this.
NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
The hell? You got me mixed up with somebody else. So please stop smoking teh crack.
UNDERCOVER BLACKMAN,
I have been on this blog a long time and I can tell you that I have been to both your blogs even tho you try to claim you have only one. Yeah, right. I know all about your therapy sessions your inability to get along and your need to talk to your therapist.
You think you are the only one who can do any investigation on the internet. You Undercover Blackman are a danger to us on this blog. You have bragged on your “other” blog how you stalked a man and called his house because you found out he was a McCain supporter.
Deny all you want but you and I both know the truth.
Go the f*ck away and leave us alone.
I will not let you get away with your crap.
I am not mistaking you for anyone. I remember the night you were giving Paul Villereal crap on this blog. I do remember you very well.
JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY
NO OBAMA
MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES
Apparently, my “other” blog is so incriminating… you won’t even provide a link to it!
My blogging life is an open book. Just click my name and you’ll see.
You, meanwhile… who knows who the heck you are?
America needs to pray!! What is sad about the above comments from so called Hillary supporters is that they could come straight out of private, dinner table conversations from the 1940’s thru 60’s, during Jim Crow and Civil Rights movement, yet they are spewing out of the bowels of hatred of young thinkers, ages 25-60’s. When will it change? When will your hatred stop? I am waiting for Hillary to say how ashamed she is of the 18 million who only supported her skin color and sex, as opposed to her ideals, which are much like Obama’s. She should have denounced this type of hatred a long time ago, and that is one reason why she is not headlining the stage next week. When you are truly for or against something, it would not make a difference who is holding it, but you prove that you never were for her either.
God knows best, if you truly believe your name, then you have to know that Obama is not a Christian. You know the word Christian means a follower of Christ. Christ said I am the way and the light and you can only get to the Father through me. Obama says there are many ways. Christ says there is a heaven, but Obama isn’t sure. Now, while I don’t care if we have a Christian leader, I do care when someone lies about it, and that would be Obama. The only thing I have heard that he has said that is truthful and that is people haven’t been reading their bible. In fact, he’s counting on it.
More lovely Obama tactics in the name of “Unity.”
Nice try, but bite me. Obama is no Dem…he’s a tool who destroyed the Dems just when we needed them most.
^ GOP plant.
^ Obama Troll
Hillary had no choice if she wants to run for POTUS again she cannot alienate blacks. No Democrat has even been elected without getting at least 60% of the black vote. She does have enormous grace and class and remains the best canidate that has chased the office since John Kennedy. And she is better prepared than he was. The election was stolen from her and us. I will vote McCain and send my first $$ donation right away.
well now… there goes you coup, huh?
And isn’t it just dandy that Oprah will be back stage with BO and MO all the time. She plans to be there all week. But stay in the back ground.
Now isn’t that just soooooooooooooooooooWonderful……..:(
Oh what fun!
The big media story at BO’s Coronation is the angry Clinton supporters. Will we be unified by Friday? Donna B says we will - then swallows hard. (chuckle) She says we just need to “hear from Barack Obama about his positins…” Oh give me a break!
Will we cause a fuss at the convention? Will Obama mesmerize us with his big speech? Will Hillary convince us to kiss BO’s ring? Will the 27% of Hillary hardliners for McCain roll over and change our minds under the bright lights of Convention Obamaganza?!!
Words like “alarm” and “ominous” are creeping into the coverage. Pundits say Hillary can stop Carville and Begala from saying Hillary was mistreated - if she wants to, but she hasn’t (wink, wink).
This is so satisfying - finally!
We need to hear more positions? MORE positions?
Obama’s positions are a stack of flapjacks, each one waiting to be flipped.
I want to hear about his Bend Over and take it cuz he has earned it on November 4 from all the angry and disillusioned voters position.
I, too, think that HRC could be in great danger–there have been too many convenient deaths.
This is the first I’ve heard of Russert’s “corruption story on Obama.” I always thought Russert was an Ozombie through and through. And he also hates the Clintons. Didn’t he declare Obama the presumptive nominee?
Again, are you serious?
Here’s a story about the mighty PUMAs turnout in Denver:
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/exclusive-first.html
I think if Hillary is going to release her delegates next Wednesday, she will be honest to Frauds!
Clinton likely to release her delegates to Obama
.
Likely seems to be the operative word, with a little wiggle room.
And, she will “encourage them” to support Obama. Many of them may choose not to support Obama.
We’ll find out Wednesday.
PUMA ROAR, PUMA ROAR, PUMA ROAR!
What, Hillary will release her delegates?
Uh, umm…..NEVER MIND!
meow, meow….
NoQuarter,
I hope you someday reign in the bigoted, racist members (some, not all) and allow real conversation about this upcoming election. I do not understand how you can turn your head and ignore the behavior of these disruptive republican trouble makers. Yes, I am sure you know theri purpose here as well as I do! You will clean up your act (Larry) or this place will become a ghost town.
Southwest Puma
Please allow me differ here
what is the difference between now and let say April. the same was going on with the party pushing her out and the media too. Obama was crowned the nominee for no other reason than than to appease the loud Clintons haters. Why didn’t she just throw the towel and crowl back to the party and beg them to accept her then instead of continue to accumilate more debt and subject her supporters to listen more insults to her and them. I never took her for a quitter. there is no dignity in what she is doing.
We have some especially ugly trolls here this morning. I guess the prayers for unity aren’t working.
ABC is reporting that the decision to include Clinton in the roll call vote may be in jeopardy.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/stephanopoulos.html
“Stephanopoulos: No Roll Call Vote for Clinton?
August 24, 2008 8:11 PM
ABC News’ Nitya Venkataraman reports: After former rivals Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton worked to broker a deal where Clinton’s name would be placed into nomination alongside Obama’s at the Democratic convention, speculation swirls in Denver that Clinton insiders may be willing to accept no roll-call vote, fearing the blame of disrupting the party’s efforts at unity.
ABC News’ Chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos says no decisions have yet been made, but that the state-by-state vote faces the possibility of elimination in favor of Obama’s nomination “by acclamation.”
“The whole idea of a roll call vote could be in flux at this point,” Stephanopoulos told ABC’s Charles Gibson on World News Sunday night.
“The Clinton people here, they’ve said they wanted catharsis, they wanted that roll call, but they may not get it,” Stephanopoulos said, describing the decision as one being discussed at the highest levels of Clinton’s camp. “They don’t want to be blamed for any trouble at this convention.”
The roll call vote was planned in an effort to soothe Clinton supporters bitterly disappointed by her loss to Obama during the primary season.
An ABC News/Washington Post poll released Sunday showed Obama only receiving the support of 79 percent of Democrats — a number Stephanopoulos says is due in part to the fact that Obama doesn’t yet have all of Clinton’s supporters on board. ”
The polls over the weekend, CNN’s showing 27% of registered Democrat Clinton supporters are voting for McCain, with only 66% of registered Democrat Clinton supporters saying they will vote for Obama and ABC’s poll showing that 30% of Clinton supporters are stating they won’t vote for Obama must have the Obama camp is a tizzy. In June, according to a CNN poll, only 16% of registered Democrat Clinton supporters were going to vote for McCain. McCain has been gaining in the polls for the past month, with the majority of his support appearing to come from Democrats discouraged with Obama.
It appears the last thing Obama wants at his Denver party is for the rest of America to see just how many delegates don’t support his nomination.
If CNN’s poll is correct, that means 34% of registered Clinton Democrats won’t vote for Obama, choosing instead to vote for McCain, writing in Clinton’s name, voting for a third party or abstaining from the November election. That’s 6.1 million voters. What about the non-registered Clinton Democrats like me? Or the registered and non-registered Obama Democrats who have changed their minds about Obama? That has to be at least another couple of million.
One thing is clear to me, if the DNC nominates Senator Obama this week, McCain is our next president. I don’t want another Republican administration in the White House. But between the two evils, I’ll take McCain for $1,000, Alex. Polls are indicating that I’m not the only one playing Jeopardy and more people are fleeing to McCain not because they want him as president, they don’t want Obama as president.
Ah, but Hillary can’t control the actual voters who voted for her in the primaries and won’t vote for Obama in the general election. Hillary can go through the motion as a team player, but even she can’t save the sinking ship, SS Obamacrat. There are just too many holes.
Hillary…we know you were threatened and sold us down the drain. I worked hard for 1 yer with a vast network of 116,871 supporters of yours…we gave money, time, effort 24/7. Please do not do what you are about to do. The very second you encourage your supporters to back a person like Obama(the most dishonest, corrupt person in politics)…our group will gothrough with our plans of workeing even harder to gofor McCain….the Party will not be united. We ask you one more time…PLEASE HILLARY…blind side the corrupt people who treated you like dirt and tell your people to vote for McCain or simply walk on and off the stage without saying a word.Obama will never win0I promise.
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