Tension At The Convention
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on August 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM in Backtrack Obama, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Commander in Chief, DNC, DNC idiocy, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Nomination, Economy, Foreign Policy, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Media Bias, Michelle Obama, Race Card, Racism
As one might expect, things are not all sweetness and light at the Convention (and I will freely admit, up front, that I plan to watch very little of it. No way in HELL do I want to watch Michelle Obama speak, or even Barack, for that matter. I don’t need to hear Michelle’s arrogant patronizing speech or Obama’s patronizing arrogant speech. No thanks. There are really only two people I do want to hear speak: Bill and Hillary Clinton.
It seems, though, according to John Harris and Mike Allen of Politico.com that there are some major tensions between the Obama and Clinton camps. Now, really, did any of us HONESTLY think it would be any different? Obama treated both Clintons like pure crap, and denigrated one of the best presidents we have had in 40 years, so, uh, YEAH, they might still be a little peeved. Especially Bill:
One flashpoint is the assigned speech topic for former president Bill Clinton, who is scheduled to speak Wednesday night, when the convention theme is “Securing America’s Future.” The night’s speakers will argue that Obama would be a more effective commander in chief than his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.).The former president is disappointed, associates said, because he is eager to speak about the economy and more broadly about Democratic ideas — emphasizing the contrast between the Bush years and his own record in the 1990s.
This is an especially sore point for Bill Clinton, people close to him say, because among many grievances he has about the campaign Obama waged against his wife is a belief that the candidate poor-mouthed the political and policy successes of his two terms.
Well, he DID poor-mouth them - every chance he got! Obama praised REAGAN and BUSH I, but made every effort to NOT praise Bill CLinton. The lengths to which he went sometimes to avoid that woud make a Cirque Du Soleil performer envious!
And what, you might ask, was the Obama camp’s response to all of this? Get ready - I think you might get a good chuckle out of this one:
Some senior Democrats close to Obama, meanwhile, made clear in not-for-attribution comments that they were equally irked at the Clinton operation. Nearly three months after Hillary Clinton conceded defeat in the nomination contest, these Obama partisans complained, her team continues to act like she and Bill Clinton hold leverage.
Hahahaha!! Isn’t that hilarious? A former TWO TERM President and a two term senator, who, by the way, received the largest number of votes of any presidential candidate EVER, think they have any leverage??? And people wonder why there are “tensions.” Well, SOME people do, I don’t. I am pretty clear on why there are. Oh, you know they didn’t stop there. Here’s more:
Some senior Obama supporters are irritated at how they perceive the Clintons fanned — or at a minimum failed to douse — stories that she was not even vetted as a possible vice presidential nominee. This is because she told Obama she preferred not to go through the rigorous process of document production unless she was really a serious contender, an Obama associate noted.One senior Obama supporter said the Clinton associates negotiating on her behalf act like “Japanese soldiers in the South Pacific still fighting after the war is over.”
Well, golly gee - imagine that. Some of us actually do still care about not engaging in vote theft, fraud, and disenfranchisement! Some of us actually do still care about not co-opting caucuses in ways that border on, if they are not, illegal. Some of us actually care about the POPULAR VOTE WINNER. And some of us still give a damn about the democratic process, something of which we have seen blessed little this election season.
And really, witht this kind of attitude, is there any wonder why so many of us just plain do not LIKE Obama?
A prominent Obama backer said some of Clinton’s lieutentants (sic) negotiating with the Obama team are “bitter enders” who presume that, rather than the Clintons reconciling themselves to Obama’s victory, it is up to Obama to accommodate them.
Holy crap. Did you notice the part about Clinton and the vice presidency? She said if she was not a SERIOUS contender, she did not want to go through the vetting process. Evidently, then, she was never seriously considered, thus proving the point of so many who felt she was being dissed. She WAS (not that I ever, for one skinny second WANTED her to be the VP choice. That, to me, would have been far worse - her having to prop up Obama from a subservient position would have been too much to take. So, I’m with some of the “senior veterans” of the Clinton campaign:
In fact, some senior veterans of Clinton’s presidential campaign do believe this.“He has not fully reconciled,” said one political operative close to the Clintons, “and he has not demonstrated that he accepts the Clintons and the Clinton wing of the party.”
I think most of us can concur that is indeed a problem for Obama. He, and the other DNC leaders, seem hellbent on eradicating the Clinton wing (”dang Washington outsider interlopers!”). But there is more on President Clinton:
While Bill Clinton remains angry about how he and his wife were treated by both Obama backers and the news media — and he is particularly resentful at what he sees as unfair allegations that he tried to exploit racial divisions for political advantage — he has made the decision that he will put forward a positive face for Obama’s benefit at Denver.It is harder to do that when the topic is foreign policy and national security, which lends itself to restrained, rather than boisterous, partisan rhetoric.
“That puts him in a terrible bind, because you can’t give a ringing endorsement when you’re talking about foreign policy,” a longtime Clinton adviser said. “Obviously, the hard thing to talk about with Obama is commander in chief, of all his many talents.
“You don’t rah-rah about commander in chief. You rah-rah about hope and change and a new party and all that. So no matter what he does, somebody will find fault with it.”
I sure cannot blame President Clinton for being angry that he was portrayed as a racist by the Obama camp, AND the media. For someone who has worked so hard on behalf of the African American community, it wasn’t just a slap int he face. It was a slap in the face AND a knife in the back. Repeatedly. Rep. Jim Clyburn twisted that knife on more than one occasion (and thus leads to my problem of voting downticket, because I am not voting for Obama/Biden, or Clyburn. I don’t like any ONE of them, and feel Obama has done tremendous damage to the DNC. I know - you would never have known that about me before this, right??).
Apparently, the good senator is looking at the convention with a more positive eye:
Hillary Clinton, who associates said seems more at peace with the results of the nomination battle than her husband, is treating her speech preparation as an all-hands-on-deck exercise, bringing back longtime aides who worked with her during the White House years and in her Senate office.Jim Kennedy, a veteran Clinton press hand and now an executive at Sony studios, was recalled to work on a speech draft, as was former White House speechwriter Lissa Muscatine, according to Clinton associates.
Many of Hillary Clinton’s negotiations with the Obama team, aides said, have been led by former White House lawyer Cheryl Mills — a fiercely loyal associate of the Clintons who is known for her relentless and sometimes combative advocacy on their behalf.
Another longtime associate, former White House chief of staff John Podesta, said he has little doubt that Hillary Clinton will easily meet her political challenge in Denver. He predicted that her supporters will “blow the roof” off the convention center with cheers for her, and that she will in turn make a rousing appeal for Obama.
See, another reason why I love Senator Clinton. She is, without a doubt, a class act. She is a Democrat through and through, even to her own detriment. I admire her for that (though I no longer call myself a Democrat - I do not recognize this current party. To me, it looks more like the RNC than the DNC to which I have always belonged.). I hate what the DNC leadership have done to both her and President Clinton. I cannot stand that this unqualified man, with exceedingly POOR judgment rather than the “good” judgment he claims to have, with the numerous questionable associates, who engaged in documented intimidation, fraud, and corruption of the caucus system, and whose secrecy makes George Bush look like an open book, is the one the DNC is pushing. Wow.
So, enjoy the convention, those of you who will actually be watching it. I am going to let my DVR do the work for me so I can just fast forward through until I reach the Clintons. And you can BET it will not be set to record Obama’s “victory” speech.
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Really, the only way to straighten out any of this is for Pres. and Sen. Clinton to quit lying on behalf of Obama and the DNC. They’re the ones who give this entire proceeding legitimacy. Their supporters should be demanding more from him than wishy-washy passive-agressiveness, and a lot more from her than this Stepford Wife routine. After all, their friend in Arkansas is dead, eliminated from politics just like Gov. Siegelman was when Rove framed him for bribery two years ago. A Clinton-Siegelman ticket would have been something, but now we’ll never know.
It’s puzzling. Why do the Clintons continue to collaborate in this Rove-inspired drama? Is it about more book deals and lecture tours, or a plum assignment in the senate? They said this election would have lasting consequences and they’re right. There may not be any more elections once the federal gov. goes bankrupt. In the face of so much fraud, underhandedness, hostility directed at traditional democrats by Obama surrogates, lies and deceit, and now even an assassination, they say “Go Obama!” This is an incredible disappointment for those of us who worked so hard to get them this far. Here’s more about the murder:
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BillGwatney.html
Exactly my points. Neither political party is endorsed by the Constitution which makes them not a part of the Constitution; threfore, both Bill and Hillary Clinton owe allegiance to the Constitution, not Team Obama. Not just as a former President and a current Senator but because they took and oath to protect and defend our Constitution which has been trampled on by the stolen caucus votes of Obama disciples and the stolen “gift” of other candidates votes made to candidate Obama by the Democratic party.
And Barry Soertoro, alias Barack Obama broke his oath of office, too.
And We the People witnessed it.
No Rallys for BOBOBAMA on Wall Street today..Have not the Money traders seen the Glory of the coming of the “Messiah”..?
Where are the Signs of the new Millenium..The New “We Are One”..Signs of the Times…The New Angelic songs…like “This is the Dawn of the Age of OBEERYIASS..”The One People..One Folk..Rallys…The banners in the Sun..?
Oh..I forgot..I need to be patient..Its been a long hard Red Brick Road planning the Arrival of the SUPREME Peoples Hero..I must Trust in Axelrod to stage this Coup Perfectly..
It will all be Done in the ..(Drums and Trumpets) The ARENA.( .The Appropiate STAGE..
For the new EMPEROR…The Long rows of The Faithful..lined up with military precision in the Denver Stadium..(Obamas Arena).
The Arena..and all an Arena Represents..When you have an IMPERIALISTIC EGO..
I have Flash backs..
ONE NATION…ONE FOLK…ONE WORLD..
And when the World is Crying..”Peace at Last..Peace at last..”
Sudden destruction will Come..
This is the Age of DECEPTION..
YRM - you are disgusting.
Gwatney was killed in the Arkansas for Obama office. He was a proud and loyal Democrat, killed by a lunatic who lost his job.
Show some respect.
This is what the Clintons said.
“We are deeply saddened by the news that Bill Gwatney has passed away. His leadership and commitment to Arkansas and this country have always inspired us and those who had the opportunity to know him. Our prayers are with his family during this time.”
thats not true
you are lying about where he was killed
he was a CLINTON delegate
why the hell would he be in OBAMA’s office?
callin yourself an EX PUMA doesn’t mean you were EVER a PUMA so why don’t YOU STFU!
Gwatney was in his own office. He was also a used car dealer and the third to be shot that year. For all we know, someone paid $1245 for a $300 brake change.
He was in the Party Offices - set up as Arkansas for Obama. He was a great Democrat.
YRMs comment was disgraceful, but then so are most of the PUMA types. Bigots like “Johnny at Work” (as what?), liars like Bowers, McCain supporters like Darragh Murphy.
PUMA was supposed to be about seating Florida and Michigan. It was supposed to be about support for Clinton. It was none of that and all they have done is associate Hillary with bigots, whilst fully undermining her campaign to clear her debts. Way to go PUMA.
I donated to Hillary. Larry Johnson even donated to Hillary. The FEC lists nothing for PUMA PAC founder Murphy except a McMansion donation.
I hate to even think I once thought they were anything but a Republican trick.
you are so full of shit I don’t know where to begin
go to bambi’s side dreaming that Hillary wants unity with his old sorry ass
stay away from the THINKING people
what ever you suffer MAY BE CONTAGIOUS
She sent this to her supporters. I guess most of the PUMA movement (all 20 of them) did not get it.
Obama bin Biden 08 EPIC FAIL
I have seen a record of the money given to Hillary by Darleigh it was $700 on the Huffington Fundraise site.
Obama IS a Bigot! What - you never heard or read what Jerimiah Wright was preaching? Go away faker - NO ONE here is dumb enough to believe that you EVER were a Hillary supporter. Its pretty dumb to even think that any one could/would ever believe you. Ass…
Why are you here??
If everyone here is so bigoted? Why would a normal person “torture” themself?
Troll, paid or ‘fraid?
Respond.
The average democratic party voter does not have all of the information that the people who come to this blog have. You can appreciate how long it took to reach some of the conclusions we have reached at this site - it has been a long vigilent process starting in January.
There is not enough time to lay out this multi-faceted stolen nomination we have helplessly witnessed. The Clintons have no choice but to go along with the sham at this point. If they started to go through all the well-documented grievances there are, they would quickly lose favor among some of their own unsuspecting supporters not to mention the volatile other side who are less informed. It would be seen as sour grapes, poor losers - all the things the rest of us have been called.
She was just in a McCain television ad, too!
That HRC speechwriter they mentioned in the article, Lissa Muscatine, is such an amazing person! I met her the day before the PA primary at a private Hillary event, and she was telling me about how she helped Hillary write that phenomenal China speech during the 1990s.
I don’t think Lissa likes Obama very much, but I think she’s doing this out of her deep loyalty to Hillary.
Any teenager can read through this comment that Hillary was dissed.
Trust me, the media will handle this comment as if it verifies Hillary supporters’ obstinancy, rather than it shows Obama never considered her for VP for a moment.
I watched earlier but is she the Hillary delegate who will vote for McCain?
My vote goes to Senator John McCain, the proven patriot and hero. I only wish, he’ll ok & let the RNC attack machine work so people will know the truth about the Obamas.
Currently,I get more coverage at FOX. I used to watch CNN, MSNBC but it seems the pundits are in love with Obama. Sickening!
Vote for McCain!
Will Bower on Fox News right now (2:0pm eastern).
Fox News is ALL OVER the ‘angry’ Clinton supporters today BTW.
^ That’s because Fox News is an arm of the Republican Party. D-UHHH!
FOX does not create the problems Obama has for the Dem party. They just point it out.
Isn’t their delusional thinking a kick? What will the meme be on 11/5? Bad weather? hahahahahahahha
So old and so tired an argument. So, is MSNBC and CNN arms of the Democrats?
Neither is true - they are tools for Corporate power and that is all.
My friend, spend a day and count how many times Fox News broadcasts GOP attack ads during their news coverage — giving free advertising to McCain — then count how many times they broadcast Democratic campaign ads as news.
Case closed.
They have 24/7 streaming live broadcast of the DEMOCRATIC national convention. All free advertisement.
You can’t hold it against them that they are hoping for the convention to implode, just like the rest of America does.
We don’t want your sorry excuse for a candidate.
Oh, btw, if you disagree consider why Fox is the highest rated network.
UBM<
Obama is the one that praised Reagan and Bush. Face it-Obama is Bush 3.
You are supporting a covert Republican and have been bamboozled!
why is he undercover? I am so confused?
He must really be white…
Penis envy.
I don’t care!
Whatever gets rid of Obamadone!
good for them
counterbalance to msnbc
go f yourself blackman… and btw…> we ain’t your friend (I seriously doubt anyine with your arrogance and stupidity has any)
^ You’re mean!
Wah, ya big baby.
My friend, count how many times MSNBC, CNN and other networks give Obama positive press coverage while rarely giving any to Hillary. Jack Cafferty called Hillary sexist names and this was ok. Mathewes and Keith O repeatedly mocked her and called her sexist and hateful names throughout the primaries. The only non-biased reporter in the whole CNN line up during the primaries in my opinion was Lou Dobbs. Are Hillary supporters angry about how she was treated? You are damn right we are and we will not forget. Many of us have turned off Oprah, and have rejected watching the media stations where rampant Obama positive bias has been pervasive. Fox has been the ONLY network that has provided some counter information for the public to hear. Many Democrats do not like Fox but since the other stations are so clearly in the tank for Obama, we have no choice but choose FOX as our major source of news. Corporate control of media has ruined our right as citizens to objective news reporting. Now all we get from the main stream media is a lot of spin from talking heads with agendas and trash about people’s sex lives. We are an embarrassment around the world. We are slowly having to depend on private citizens like Dr. Long and Li for real investigative information. It is a sad state of affairs in America when the media no longer serves the public interest but their own selfish corporate desires. Obama is a product of such reporting alligning himself with Madison Avenue. Although he and the media will try to portray himself as MainStreet, it will all be a complete smokescreen.
The same thing applies to MSNBC and CNN.
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Evidently.
I actually like GOP more than Obama and his Dems.(= That’s how much I despise Obama) So I don’t mind watching Fox at all.
BO is burnt toast!
“then count how many times they broadcast Democratic campaign ads as news.”
Obama ads are humorless, all about hope and change and tired comments how he will support “green” industries to replace the jobs he will continue to send to China.
The nitwit Obamabot is here.
^ At the kind invitation of Larry Johnson!
Check on CNN and see how many times they have pro Obama stories.
Go back to the the pit of hell from where you came Obama!
Well, that’s a SURE way to bring voters on board the Obama Cult Express train! Duhhhh…
Insult the voters, call them racists, call Democrats a “Republican front” and jab the knife in a twist in petty vindictiveness with 3 a.m. text messages.
Keep it up! It’s working. For McCain:
In a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll taken after Obama announced his VP pick, 27 percent of Hillary supporters say they’ll vote for McCain, up from 16 percent in late June.
Yet another poll, the USA Today/Gallup, puts the number of Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain, someone other than Obama, or no one at all, at 30 percent.
CNN poll: Post-Biden poll shows dead heat
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com:80/2008/08/24/cnn-poll-post-biden-poll-shows-dead-heat/
Poll: More than half of Clinton backers still not sold on Obama
http://www.usatoday.com:80/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-campaignpoll_N.htm
I heard 50% said no one at all and 30% said McCain.
I guess Nancy Pelosi didn’t hear you …
Asked by reporters about female voters’ comfort level with Obama, Pelosi said women show a strong preference for Obama in public opinion polls. A “gender gap” in Obama’s favor had emerged “even before the convention, and even before the complete reconciliation that we need,” she said.
Pelosi, who is chairwoman of the convention by virtue of her post as House speaker, brushed off a question about that reconciliation effort.
“The nomination is decided, we have a vice president, we’re going to work together and go forward,” she said, adding that all 12 national conventions she has attended have been marked by contentiousness.
“But to stay wallowing in all of this is not productive,” she said. “So we can talk about this forever, or we can talk about how we’re going to take our message to the American people, to women all across America, to see the distinctions” between Obama and Republican candidate John McCain.
What matters is Americans’ unease about the economy and such issues as privacy rights, Pelosi said. She picked up the same theme later at a speech to hundreds of California delegates, saying they owned Americans “more than to get subsumed in process.”
Pelosi chastised journalists for fixating on conflicts between Obama and Clinton supporters.
“You know what? This is like a yesterday room,” she told the reporters. “We are going into the future. What did I walk into, a time capsule?”
The time capsule she’s looking for is the one where her face wasn’t held in place by BOTOX. She can go F*ck herself.
Pelosi will me forward…forward to the exit door.
She is so out of touch. She is an embarrassment to women. I guess that is why her book tanked.
HA!
She wrote a BOOK?
Who knew?
When Obama was crying and people said it was put on I really don’t believe it was put on. I really believe that he just always thought, “this is mine. I’m Michelle’s husband, I’m black and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate!”, and then out of nowhere came “Hey, we’re the PUMAS!”, and he said “Oh Damn! Where did you come from!? I’m black! I’m entitled! There’s some PUMAS stealin’ my show!-WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”
BEAUTIFULLY STATED
LMAO Good one
Someone should dub that text over that video.
Classic!
abm, you showed up on tl the other day and now your are just as rude now as you were there.
And MSNBC is not an arm of Move-On.Org and the far-left wing trying to compete with a more center/right FoxNews?? These days, I find FoxNews is more what they’ve always said they are - fair & balanced. They love the fact Hillary people now watch and praise them. In many ways they try to live up to what we’ve said about them. I can hardly bear to watch MSNObama since it nearly sends me into the streets screaming obscenities. CNN can get me there too sometimes. Fox is my tranquilizer.
No one who claims to be a Hillary supporter can support Will Bowers, who set out to undermine her fund raising by claiming on Fox all her debt was cleared by July 4.
Of course Fox is all over PUMA stories, they like the Republicans invented them to destroy her.
hey,
Who’s giving the invocation tonight?
Wright, Pfleger or Jesse?
hahahahahah
Any of those are better than Bush. How about Falwell, the 59 lobbyists employed by the McCain campaign, the boy buggering bigoted Republican Senators, or even Peter Hong?
Good moral values the lot.
Ex PUMA My Ass.
It would be rather difficult for Falwell to be there. You should get out of your basement more often.
go back to orange urinal.
Will Bower on Fox News right now (2:20pm eastern).
Fox News is ALL OVER the ‘angry’ Clinton supporters today BTW.
Have your say!
Back Clinton in Denver, whether you can make it into town or not.
http://tinyurl.com/back-clinton-in-denver
I’m lucky this year. My Democratic Senator and Congressman do not have Elephascist opponents this year, but they do have Green opponents–so this November I will be voting Green for the top 3 spots on my ballot.
Good for you. Seems the odds of finding an ivory bill Woodpecker are better than finding a true democratic politician these days. Throw the bums out!!!
Don’t waste your vote for President, vote for Mccain, this is a 2 person race you know.
It was not even and two person primary!!! Hey, are we still living in America???? Feels like a really bad Nightmare.
You are right! The ONLY way to vote against BO is to vote for McCain. The write-in for Hillary, voting for any of the fringe candidates or staying home will in effect all be a vote for Obama.
Hillary is “at peace” because she knows what I know–that revenge is a dish best served COLD.
All she’s got to do is bide her time–Obama will implode, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth…and then the little punks will wander off, find some pot, order some pizza and be on to the Next Big Thing. The adults who supported Obama will shake off that foggy stupor and ask themselves, “What WAS I thinking???”
We’ll endure four years of McCain, a Democratic Congress will be FORCED to work, and in 2012, Clinton will come forth, tanned, rested and ready–but Obama will stay home. Where he belongs.
or maybe he’ll be in jail!
I second that. This is exactly what I think, with one addition…when Obama loses, he and the Obamanation, of course, will blame Hillary for everything that happens to him.
(Then he’ll light a cigarette and catch some more waves on Maui, bra’, wit’ his rapper friends and George Clooney!)
HAha, and Hussein Obama will have to serve out 3 more years in the senate. Imagine if Hillary goes for Majority Leader? If this happens it’s a sure bet you’ll never see Obama again in politics.
Majority Leader Hillary Clinton has a nice ring to it. Not as nice as President Hillary Clinton, but I’ll settle for one step at a time…
The Obama camp appears to act as if he has already been a president and should therefore be entitled to the same respect that an actual President should be given.
And what is with “the war being over?” In actuality he has NOT received the vote yet. Chances are he will due to their thug tactics, but not yet.
Dear Lord I hope he loses.
Exactly. They’re attitude is like “it’s our party now, the Clinton’s need to sit down and shut up”.
Best case scenario: Obama loses and Dean/Pelosi/Reid will have a challenge to their leadership in 2009. The Obama/Dean DNC may be able to browbeat just enough people but the rank and file are going to be far less willing to play Dean’s game if he loses this one.
Hillary should go for the Senate Majority position and turn Reid into the back bencher that he should be.
Chappaquicick Teddy won’t be around much longer,
so I would not worry about he and his ilk
trying to stop Hillary from attaining that position.
That would be poetic justice. Once again, the old boozer leaves a woman to drown; this time she is the better swimmer.
So they think Teddy can come tonight to the Hall and ‘bring us together’, huh. He is responsible for tearing the party apart in 1980 by challenging a sitting president from his own party. He did not even shake Carter’s hand once it was clear Carter would be the nominee. Carter went on to lose the election for a second term. A real peace maker, that Teddy.
In Teddy’s endorsement speech for BO, he said it is time to pass the torch to the next generation. Let’s see now - Teddy is 76. Obama is 44. Hillary is 60. When did we start skipping a generation? Some have suggested he was passing the Camelot torch to Obama. I REALLY don’t get that! Obama is no John Kennedy. He’s not even a Ted Kennedy. WTH?
You have the audacity to mention “entitlement” and the name “Clinton” in the same post. You PUMAs are priceless!
and just how is Barry doing on the Banking Commitee today that is his commitee, or you forget he told the world that a couple of weeks ago?
and he did not say it to the ghosts he speaks to or in any of the top 57 states he visited either….lol
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People like the Clintons, who have worked all their lives for others, are entitled to respect, not that other people who have a gimme mentality understand that type of entitlement.
Troll, paid or ‘fraid.
Or all three.
An incredibly divided Democratic Party stages a convention designed to create the illusion of unity. How could there not be tension?
Its just the latest American Idol drivel. Such a waste of money. That should embarrass real democrats also. Puke! Puke! Puke!
Well said….
Which is why Fox has a vested interest in showcasing Democratic disunity–and why the Obama camp and DNC are desperate to hide it. DUUUUHHH!
Thanks for your brilliant insight.
My local Dems are good guys so I will vote for them, and my state is guaranteed to go blue so I will cast my presidential vote for the truly progressive, liberal, African-American candidate: Cynthia McKinney.
I live in Michiganistan and all the local DEMS that I supported in the past got together with the thugs and stole my vote. How can you get 45% of the Delegates when you REMOVED your name from the ballot??? I never heard ANY DEMS open their mouth and protest any of this crap, they ever had Carl Levin sitting there going along with this. I’m sure all your local DEMS were in the cheering section for Obama too, you better wake up, this Party needs a good PURGE, that will only happen if the DEMS get a resounding defeat in Nov., if that doesn’t happen the DEMS will no longer be a Party I want to belong to.
Hey, the Polls show that Michigan suppoorts Obama over McCain. Can that really be true? It makes no sense.
Yes as only fools want 4 more years of Republican misrule destroying America and the World.
Obama 08/12
Clinton 16/20
~”4 more years of Republican misrule destroying America and the World.”~
I didn’t know Obama had switched to being a Republican yet; must be positive the steal is in to come out this early after that earlier faux pa about how much he admires Republican Reagan and especially his trickle
ondown economic theory that didn’t work.GWB ignored Michigan for almost his entire presidency, so it’s no surprise that Obama is leading here.
I wouldn’t give up on us just yet, though. It’s a long time ’til November, and Obama is Obama’s worst enemy.
I am with you Hank48188. I am so disgusted with the local DEMS in Michigan and the debacle that ensued. I plan to vote a straight R ticket. I no longer want to be associated with the undemocratic party and their ridiculous minions.
Kwame Kilpatrick, that woman who got told off by a 12-year-old girl for calling a guy Shrek during a meeting, voter fraud… Dems look like idiots and criminals in Michigan. Obama is holding around 4 pts. there. McCain has taken 6 battleground states over the past two weeks. I bet Michigan flips soon.
I agree. MI will flip to red. The state is a damn mess.
Just think what the republicans did to Bill Clinton over the Monica affair, they impeached him. They will do TEN FOLD to Obama with the sordid past he has as they did to B. Clinton. Howard Dean and the elitists are deserving of every bit of disrespect the democratic party will get in the run up to the general election. What will it take to sanitize the democratic party? Jesus Christ is not on the dem ticket.
The Republicans can only impeach Presidents…Barry will never get that far.
He will, if they bought the voting machines. And I bet they have. That’s how thugs work.
You know Disguested…… I really worry about that too.
No, they won’t because he’s black and they are still afraid to be called racist, no matter what.
I, however, could care less. bring it on, I am a racist!
The Repubs are afraid to be called racist?
Hahahaha, since when?
The GOP doesn’t care. They’ve got their guns loaded, and starting around this time next week, it’ll be ready-aim-fire time.
They are arms of the Obama campaign who employ his talking points as fact. Uhh, Andrea Mitchell,”John McCain cheated”. Chris mattew’s leg tingle.
Please.
The beef between Andrea’s hubby-Greenspan- and McCain goes waayyy back, all the way to Keating.
Bill Clinton is one of the greatest presidents America has ever had. I hope to God and to Hell both that Bill Clinton comes out and calls Obama the damned spade he is, knowing full well Bill Clinton will never do that. And the Obama mob thinks we will “get over it”? Not in my lifetime.
How do you guys reconcile this story with Clinton’s own statements today?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/25/clinton_dismisses_mccain_ads.html
Cixelsyd,
Doesn’t it just drive you crazy that her statements still won’t get those voters back for Obama?
That’s not what I am asking… the story above is stating the tensions have arisen between Clinton and Obama. Clinton today says that is false. So why is it still being reported here?
Matt
There have always been tension between them and their supporters. After all that’s why your here now, isn’t it?.
And Obama dissing Bill all along, now THAT was stooopid.
Hillary herself can’t get votes for him..bitter, huh?
Because PUMAs want chaos because the can’t have their way. That’s why they are easily manipulated by the Neocon media, aka Faux News.
And who do you listen to Kelvin? Keith Olbermann, the laughingstock? LOL, good for you.
PUMA’s will have their way..No Obama.
You realize that if you read instead of absorb the news, you get a lot more information in a shorter period of time. The information conveyed in a half hour network news show is less than a single column page in a newspaper.
i don’t watch much teevee, I read.
I suggest you try it.
And I don’t want chaos. I want a president worthy of my trust and respect.
Sorry to say, that ain’t
BHO.
I’m 59, I’ve been a close observer of politics since Kennedy - Nixon, and I even called the Nixon comeback before the talking heads. I had to quit watching the Clowns at MSNBC, NBC, and CNN, maybe they shouldn’t come on the set with their Pom-Poms, the only folks giving fair and balanced during the Primaries was FOX, MSNBC wouldn’t even report the results of the Florida Primary. It will be so funny to listen to all the morons like Keith, Chris and that Fat Eddie from the radio the day after Obama goes down in flames, he will be a 1 term Senator after this.
The Obama trolls are out in force because they are scared. They are insulting, just as they were during the primary.
Please continue to insult and attempt to intimidate people. These techniques worked so well during the primary. It really helped unite the new Democratic Party, didn’t it? Through your insults and attempted intimidation, you are only consolidating more people against Obama and the new Democratic Party.
Obama and his supporters cannot address concrete issues so they insult.
Ah, HAnk…ANOTHER contributor old enough to have carried a Selective Service card!
I think it gives us Bitter Old Farts a unique perspective.
I know you are not going there with bull crap stuff I have heard coming out of the Koolaid Crusade.
Pelosi thinks he is a gift from god. Jesse Jackson Jr a grown behind man is crying like B*tch (sorry ladies), Matthews feels something running up his legs, the devils hand maiden Michelle tells us obama will heal our souls, and the devil himself says he is the one we have been waiting for. do you really want to go there? I mean cause it might be above your pay grade.
Because the tension has been all over the MSM the past few days. The original article is part of the MSM which gets reported on CNN, MSNBC and Fox regularly.
I have a question.
Did you ever hear the MSM report Hillary was at the UFW this weekend and made the case for Obama with her supporters?
Or did you hear stories about what Hillary has to do to make the case for Obama?
Making it seem like she wasn’t doing that exact thing…at that exact moment in CA!?
It’s still being reported at Politico, too. It’s news. That’s why.
I own my voice- Hillary does not speak for me.
Just because you’re lip-locked to Obumba’s ass and a sheeple, most Independent people THINK for themselves.
Go away BOT
So why did you support Hillary in the first place?
Personally, because I thought she was (and is) a powerful advocate for progressive causes. I like that she voted against Roberts and Alito, and made affordable healthcare a national issue.
John McCain is the opposite of a progressive advocate, and has said he will appoint justices in the model of Roberts and Alito. Hillary doesn’t speak for me, but the reasons I have supported her in the past are the reasons I can’t support McCain, and the reasons I (and she) now support Obama.
Okay, then WIN WITHOUT US.
I don’t support Voter Fraud, Lying Cheating Thuggery Racism and Misogyny. Now tell me why I should bend over for Obama?
Obama supporters meet Bush Supporters- Fanatic SHEEPLE.
racebaiters don’t have a place in the White House.
Sheeple come in all sizes and IQs apparently.
Your brain must of fallen out of your head; if that the best reasoning you can come up with.
And HRC’s progressive stances vs. BO’s flip flopping on those progressive stances is why there is really little difference b/w BO and the neo-cons. McCain is the real deal when it comes to putting country over Party–which is why he is not a neo-con, but rather a moderate Republican. Obama, on the other hand, puts himself squarely before country. He is also a neo-liberal, which is the flip side of the neo-fascist coin.
BHO = GWB!
Are you saying McCain is more liberal than Obama?
MCain voted against the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill, so yes, he is more liberal than Obama on THAT issue at least. But then again, Biden ALSO voted FOR the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill, so that makes two douches of the same cop-out color together on the ticket…
Yes. Obama’s progressive vote for FISA is far removed from McCain’s conservative vote for FISA!
Yep. Big difference there!
Who didn’t vote for FISA? Why, I do believe that was Hillary.
Obama is the opposite of a progressive advocate, because he is a Democrat who votes like a right wing Republican and colludes with others who do likewise. McCain is a progressive Republican with a record of working with Democrats on key issues.
For me reconcilliation will be in a vote for McCain.
Absolutely!
Duhhhhh….the Clintons are POLITICIANS. Their oxygen is networked support. They’re doing the good soldier thing. They’re saying what they have to say, to leverage all the possibilities.
What if Obama DOES win (unlikely); the Clintons want to stay on the inside.
It’s zero sum if they fall away now.
The sheer shallowness of analysis regarding the motivations behind various candidate shown by Obama supporters (like you) is telling. You believe surface stuff. You believe your own press releases. You’re not deep thinkers. You are somewhat susceptible to the madness of crowds.
I expect a rousing Convention. All this will do is to FURTHER alienate me as a former Dem, and make me work harder to defeat Obama.
Obama and his supporters simply don’t understand the level of distaste we have for a campaign that lied and cheated its way to a nomination; a campaign that used sexism and race-baiting, and a compliant press, to turn itself into a cynical win-at-any-cost political machine.
I dislike Obama almost as much as I dislike Bush. For me, McCain would be a reprieve from Bush - an ignorant fool - and Obama, a pure political poseur, propped up by the effete.
Tell me, where is Obama’s moral center? What does he REALLY believe? There is NO consistent pattern of liberal accomplishment. Only a pattern of accumulating position. He’s empty, and god help this country if someone as cynical as that gets to the top, *especially* given his lack of experience.
I wouldn’t expect Bill or Hillary to do anything less.
Me, however, that’s a different story.
The Clintons don’t own me. I’m not a slave. Interesting that the same people who call them racists now want us to lap up their endorsements of the lider. So which is it? They’re racists that you want us to listen to.
Well guess what!
I ain’t feelin it!
N0bama No way!
WIN WITHOUT ME!
It’s beyond Hillary.
She has to do what she has to do, and a huge portion of loyal blue dogs will do what they have to do to save the party from the same type of infection that has given us Bush.
That means..NOBAMA!!!!
I will vote for a Republican for the first time in my life, and trash the race-baiting weakling every chance I get.
obama=bush!
I’m still waiting to hear how YOU reconcile obama’s vote for retro FISA immunity laws!!!
I’m still waiting to hear how YOU reconcile obama’s vote for dick cheney’s energy bill!!!
I’m still waiting to hear how YOU reconcile Biden’s vote for the Iraq resolution!!
I have a problem with someone telling me to jump off a bridge and following it through. Sure Hillary, I’ll see what I can do for Barry…
I bet you a million; that once hillary, bill, and chelsea are in the voting booth;they well all vote for McCain too. It’s the truely most American thing we can do.
I think hubris is what will bring the Obama team down in the end. They’ve really bought into this idea of “The One,” which made the McCain ads poking fun at that notion particularly stinging. But the idea of dissing a 2-term former Prez and HRC’s historic run this cycle is beyond belief.
But remember it was the Obamatrons who repeated the mantra: We can win without you.
Time to live up to those words. Because they don’t have our votes and are unlikely to get them. So, please, Obamatrons, keep up the abuse and insults. You’re doing nothing more than solidfying the opposition.
Very well stated. HUBRIS now on the Democratic side of the coin.
I’m looking forward to his loss in November. It will be joyful to see the current leadership slither off to lick their wounds.
Right on! oh and BTW don’t think the 75,000 extravaganza is going to work in the heart land either. Average folks will be turned off… could invoke bad memories!
Here’s another source of tension : quiet institutional resistance and pro-Clinton maneuvering at the state level ‘forced’ Obama to settle for Biden. For some mysterious reason, more serious A-List candidates with strong foreign policy credentials weren’t ‘available’. The used car salesman from Delaware was the only frock still in the rack.
I’m sure that McCain is thanking god above. His birthday is Aug. 29th, and you couldn’t give him a better present than truth-challenged, gaffe-prone, perpetual bargain-basement presidential nominee Crazy Joe Biden.
Oilslick ‘08
Awwwww! McCain is a Virgo. Happy birthday Johnny Mac!
“I’m lucky this year. My Democratic Senator and Congressman do not have Elephascist opponents this year, but they do have Green opponents–so this November I will be voting Green for the top 3 spots on my ballot”
Thanks for the suggestion…I really didn’t want to vote for SCOTUS sell-out..Mark Pryor.
I’m even luckier, I get to vote against Kerry in the Primary.
Not that it will happen, but for kerry to lose the democratic primary, would be redeeming for us in MA
I am pretty lucky myself knowing the state I live in will go for the republican candidate. However I think Hillary had a good chance of winning here.
AGREED. The state we live in now will be red, red, red in November.
Oh and Obama won the “caucus” - aka fraud follies - in this state.
President Clinton should tell the Obama campaign, “Thank you very much but I think I’ll sit this one out and let you tell everyone what a great commander in chief you’ll be.”
That would scare the crap out of Obama. He will lose even more Clinton supporters.
AGREED
I’m sure Bill will do his part, somewhat less than with full enthusiasm.
gotta have really thick skin to be a pol.
And of course now that we have had our fill of liberal white guilt, so they’re gonna roll out ole’ teddy for a last go.
i feel bad for him, but detest his propelling this
pos upon us.
LET’S GET READY TO RUUUMMMBLLLEEEE!!
Nothing would be sweeter than watching Obama’s arrogant butt monkeys break out into fisticuffs if they feel Obama has been slighted.
May there be a “don’t taze me bro” moment at the convention…
I arrived in Denver Sunday evening to view some of the documentary films exposing rampant fraud in the caucuses, which by the way, is one of the tactics that Obama supporters used in an attempt to lock down the nomination and short circuit the will of the American people thru one person one vote. Many foreign newspapers and journalists were here covering the story. If the American press is not interested, there are still some non-corporatists around. Also the Denver airport had an abundance of quite garrish Obama T-shirts for sale in the shops and young BOTS at the baggage claim areas to greet and “enforce” the message for all arriving BOTS.
Think of it: 5-6 million Democrats say they won’t vote for Barack Obama. Between 27-30% of Democrats. That’s a huge chunk of votes that Obama thinks he can just write off, insult, shiv in the back, and alienate in November.
The arrogance of that attitude is breathtaking isn’t it?
http://www.usatoday.com:80/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-campaignpoll_N.htm
http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/08/hillary-voters-spoiling-obama-party.html
“assigned topic”?
WTF?
So President Clinton gets “assigned” a topic?
How arrogant of them. How typical.
There is going to be a reckoning.
I hope Big Dawg talks about whateverthehell he wants to. And I wouldn’t be surprised, either.
It’s almost laughable to think he’ll stick with the script. I mean, even when he INTENDS to stick to a script, he doesn’t. God love him.
My week will consist of No Quarter and Confluence and since I just joined Netflix and my first order was Ironjawed Angels I will be more likely to understand what democracy should be and what I have to do to make it happen.
Vote against the New Democratic party.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,THOSE PEOPLE AND HILLARY’S HARRIDANS RULE
I just read that the DNC are calling for a paper ballot for all delegates to vote early regarding the Roll call vote. It will be done in secret with the thugs guarding the results, to make sure of the outcome before it goes public before the convention.
The vote is supposed to be public. Does this not remind you of the same tactics that were used back in May when they had that sham “open public meeting”, where cspan watchers saw them go behind closed doors to rig the outcome and then they come out publicly and announce the decision. History repeating itself again!!
As always, it’s ‘who counts the votes’ that determines the winner.
So much for the DEMOCRATic party.
Is this all the delegates or just Clinton delegates? If Obama delegates are not forced to vote early and in the same manner that Clinton delegates do, then there is a big legal case brewing.
Even if he succeeds in receiving the nomination, and it seems like it would take an act of God to stop it, there is a plethora of charges that can be filed to stop him from becoming the candidate.There’s already one challenge regarding his legal name and place of birth.
I personaly do not care about what Sen. Obama or his wife has to say.
As always the common Americans are the great equalizer come election day.
Americans make history every day. So do not talk to me about historic day. When you watch all the AA Pundits on TV narratives, they are not helping.
The DNC is now engaging in fear politics. Democrats has majority of both houses. what have they done for you?
Think, do not be a blind follower if you chose to follow.
There are lots of crude oil deposit in this country yet we want to drill from other countries and some of run around claiming to be protecting our environment, but yet we waste the blood of the future generation for cheap oil. Think, who is the fool. Where does the democratic party stand. Is cheap fuel more valuable than the American life?
Why are we not drilling the oil here?
Do we want to waste the blood of our future generation for cheap oil. Who is the fool now?
If you can produce a fresh vegitable from your garden, why do you have to pay for it?
I read the same stuff on the AOL blog, but it’s printed Hillary conceded defeat which is bullchit. Suspended her campaign, yes,but she is still the “GO TO CLASSY LADY.”
Kevin, Barky and his mob is forced to assign Bill a “TOPIC” ,otherwise Bill will straighten the ecomony out…..Barky would chit if Bill could speak on the ecomony…..
Hillar NOT telling her delegates whom to vote for
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/hillary-theirs-is-a-personal-decision/
Charlie and the AP caught lying:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/again-with-the-release-of-delegates-rangel-again/
What Hillary actually said:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/No_guidance_from_Clinton.html
My husband, a staunch Republican, planned to cross party lines and vote for Hillary Clinton had she been the Democratic presidential nominee. Instead, I, a once passionate Democrat, will be crossing party lines to vote for John McCain on November 4. How can it be that the MSM and DNC promoted this debacle?
Barack Obama is a flake. (We already know he’s a fake.) Tension at the convention? Rev Amy hit the nail on the nose far as all the whys and wherefores surrounding this whole pathetic Denver charade and its parade of clowns.
As for our former two-term President, Bill Clinton, let us hope he peppers his DNC speech with a liberal dose of “…but I digress…”
what if Bill just got up there and pulled a paper speech out? ” I was supposed to talk to you about foreign affairs, but decided this was more important”
Who could stop him?
Bill is going to say exactly what he wants to say. He always has. He always will.
That’s because, unlike some of the super delegates, our votes can’t be bought.
Isn’t that the truth, all those down ticket DEMS that went along with this deserve to be punished for selling out to the money from George Soros.
Bill Clinton using a ploy from Obama’s handbook for his speech Weds night:
This is not the Democratic Party I knew, therefore I cannot speak on behalf of it, thank you and best of luck!
I posted this in a previous blog, but it is relevant to this topic, and worth restating.
From Politico:
Yeah, I am still peeved of the AUDACITY of Obama bad mouthing the success of Bill Clintons Presidency. I can imagine how Bill feels.
No one in the party chastised Obama over that transgression. That was my final clue that the fix was in, by the DNC, for Barry O.
Obama’s problem is there is nothing, NADA, not a damn thing he can do to repair the damage and rift he created in the party.
And, to compound the insults, the Obots still think this is a coronation. They are still comparing Hillary’s holdouts to Japanese soldiers who did not surrender, or hear that the war was over.
The War is not over PAL. You ain’t President yet, and the insults are not going to get me to fall in line behind you.
McCain ‘08 - A Maverick Like Us
McCain used to be a maverick. Since he sold his soul to the Neocons, he’s a puppet and a fraud. Much like you PUMAs.
Obama used to be an inspiration. Actually only in his own head. How sad is that?
On the other hand, barky never had a soul to sell - or do anything else with.
Same goes for his uglier than sin (on the inside) wife!
Thank God they’re going down to ignominious DEFEAT and HUMILIATION and DISGRACE. And, they’ll be taking you crude, ugly, ignorant bots along with them…
You Know Heart Boy, for a moment I thought you might make an informed opinion back up with references.
And then came the ultimate to expose yourself as a dunce and doofus.
Well Johnny No Work - at least “Heart Boy” isn’t a despicable bigot.
No Democrat should give you any respect.
At least McCain isn’t an inept, inexperienced, hypocritical, opportunistic, empty-suit! And I don’t even care for McCain!
you are a sorry excuse for a human being, then. You would trust your children to this man, who sends his own kids to a racist church?
truly an idiot
you do have shit for brains
I can see another McCain ad, entitled
“Would you trust your children to this man, who sends his own kids to a racist church?”
You PUMAs behave like spoiled children.
Actually, spoiled children believe in pathological liars like you, real adults fight against pathological liars who expect people to believe they are telling the truth!
Grow up Obot!
Better than being anti American like the Obama socialists.
Thanks there Kelvin, sweetie. I take any insult from you to be a compliment from a normal person!
Your arguments and logic are like those my brothers and I used against each other as pre-adolescents.
We grew up. You never will.
You Obamatons are delusional, irrational, guilt-ridden, lemmings!
Economy will get rid of Barky…..Ecomnoy is all screwed up….Let Bill fix it!!!!!!
I’m really shocked Bill wanted to talk about his administration. Thats just shocking. When does he want to talk about anything other than himself?
If Obama and the media hadn’t denigrated and bismirched Prez Clinton’s legacy, and if Clinton didn’t have to slavage his legacy, then his focus would now be on Obama.
You Ozombie’s didn’t realize that there would be consequences to your scorched-earth behavior toward the Clinton’s and the Clinton legacy. This only shows how immature, stupid, and short sighted you all are!
George Clooney’s $1 Million Challenge
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080825152627.mcah8kx1&show_article=1
that is because Clooney has a movie coming out and is scared the box office will follow how Opera’s ratings went….glug glug glug sank the ship!
As well it should. After all who relies on the cast of Facts of Life to advise their Prseidential candidates? Too funny!!!!
About Clooney
Yeah, remember Oprah’s ratings went down after she endorsed the One–what a hack he is
Clooney and the rest of the faux Hollywood
socialists need to STFU!
They love to preach the evils of capitalism,
yet they make millions by working within the
system of capitalism.
Exactly.
Clooney is a misogynist dolt. I met his cast of merry men at a PGA club when I was on an assignment in FL.
All they do is talk about all their prostitutes and drug escapades. They bragged about a soiree and golf event at St Andrews in Scotland like school boys in the locker room.
They are completely degrading towards women. No wonder why Clooney hearts Obambi.
Oh yeah… Brad Pitt is a part of that mix and apparently was in the Scotland adventure - Pre Angelina.
Who gives a flying f…K, George Clooney! Frankly I thought you were still too busy breaking up with your latest child-girlfriend to have time to text message your newest love Obama. So sorry you’ve decided to support such a loser for prez!!
(Damn, but I still think you’re handsome!)
Obama had to go with Biden. Anyone else that had half a brain turned him down.
Hope this is all a Hoax,and Biden is Clinton’s VP.
these idiots are their own worst enemy. If Barack Obama was even remotely qualified to be President, none of this BS would be going on. Don’t they get it?? People in this country LOVE THE CLINTONS. Trashing them is not helping you-HELLO!! FINAL ANSWER….YOU FUCKING GOT IT WRONG OBAMA CAMPAIGN.
If it’s one thing I’ve learned this election cycle, it’s that they don’t realize that LOTS of people LOVE the Clintons and many who didn’t simply learned to LOVE Hillary during the Primary.
They think that people feel the way they do.
And they’re wrong!
But their too petty, vindictive and small-minded to accept the truth.
He wants to get elected, not me. That he shoots himself in the foot this way is indictive of the way he would lead the country.
The same way Bush lied to get us to war because of his Oedipal obsession to best his dad and bring Saddam Hussein down.
I would never vote for another head case like this. I didn’t vote for the other and no way, just because he’s a democrat am I going to vote for 0bama.
I leave the Party officially on Election Day morning right after I cast my vote. I walk with my registration form in my tote bag right now to make certain I won’t forget it. I will drop it in the mail on my way home. I will be ‘Unaffiliated.’
Message to Democratic Leaders: Fuck you!
Ditto
“I’m lucky this year. My Democratic Senator and Congressman do not have Elephascist opponents this year, but they do have Green opponents–so this November I will be voting Green for the top 3 spots on my ballot”
Sounds like a replay of ‘88 when the Dukakis campaign forced the rising Dem star and DLC member, Bill Clinton, to read one of the most boring speeches in history. That nearly derailed Bill’s national political ambitions. Clinon vs the Dem elite has been going on for more than twenty years. They thought they had the plan to finally destroy him, but the morons picked the un-veted, narcissistic and corrupt Obama to do it.
And if you want to understand what the beta-test of the obami dear leader prototype, come visit glorious peoples republic of massachusettistan. Another Axelrod product is humming along in his cadillac, with his multi-million dollar “ranch”. He has a record deficit, can’t get along with party leaders, is gonna raise taxes and tolls, and he’s hired over 1000 new state employees.
that’s what you’re gonna get kiddies.
Hillary Clinton is truly a class act. She is gracious and lives up to her words. This just increases my admiration for her. I won’t be able to follow Hillary’s lead, especially with this insulting treatment of Hillary supporters. If the Obama campaign cannot get it into their arrogant skulls that they will actually need Hillary supporters in November, their candidate does not deserve my consideration.
I believe that Obama actually could win over Hillary supporters if he showed that he truly respected Hillary’s achievements, adopted her policies, and listened to her supporters. Of course, these things will not take away numerous other problems with this primary, but by truly listening to Hillary supporters they could be brought into the discussion. Unfortunately, Obama and his supporters did not want to listen. They wanted Hillary supporters to shut up and just support Obama “for our own good,” as if they 1) know better than we do what is good for us and 2) what we think are good for us don’t matter.
This would mean that Obama was even a tiny bit democratic and american; But we all know here, he is a die hard marxist!!!
Actually, Obama is a fascist due to the element of his adoring masses who will act as his neo-Brown Shirts. Beware of Obama’s 50-state strategy–it’s a cover for his civilian army and for the stealing of the GE election. After all, isn’t he bringing 50,000 of his army to Denver?
I have only watched Fox to boycott CNN and MSNBC since Hillary suspended her campaign.No viewers no ratings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read this and thought, ya know, if I were Bill and Hillary, I’d suddenly come down with a really bad cold.
Screw these Obamanots. What is more incredible is Obama is taking Bill’s DLC nightmare bad trade policy corporate written policies. Gee wiz, if he so much wishes to promote multinational corporate agenda and lobbyists’ wet dreams, you would think he would at least give credit to the one who started so much of it. It was Hillary who was pushing policy to return the Democrats back to where they belong, working America’s interests, the national interest, not just multinational corporate interests.
At this point, the whole nation knows they are being pooed up and hell, the DNC got their guy in, so let them sink with their guy.
Get a bad cold Bill and Hillary!
Oh yeah, the talking heads who continually claim there were no policy differences between Hillary and Obama are plain so full of it! That is absolutely what this is all about….damn Hillary, she gave the working class and middle class some policies that could actually help and now they are out push her out of any power as a result!
” Comment by Kevin | 2008-08-25 13:43:41
“assigned topic”?
WTF?
So President Clinton gets “assigned” a topic?
How arrogant of them. How typical.
There is going to be a reckoning.”
My above was a response to this comment..
Now I got it
thx
“That puts him [Bill Clinton] in a terrible bind, because you can’t give a ringing endorsement when you’re talking about foreign policy,” a longtime Clinton adviser said.”
Obama’s petulance brings him just that much closer to defeat — that’s a very good thing indeed.
Geez…it’s like they are trying to pick the Big Dawg’s brain for ideas on how to sell Obama and his foreign policy experience.
Since we don’t know how to sell this…let Bill do it.
LOL
When they voted, AA’s had to make a choice between Hillary, who represented their integrity, principles and best interests. And, Obama who was incapable of saying what he stood for other than, by proxy, by merely standing at a podium, their race.
Obama is the “trophy candidate.” He can be elected by being seen, but not heard. He need not speak.
A vote for Hillary would have been an intellectual decision. A vote for Obama would have been an emotional decision.
They chose the latter and we are now stuck with a brainless effing idiot as a candidate.
Democracy is dead in America. It die with the democratic party. Our Votes well be in vane.
AA female Hillary supporter. I greatly admire, respect, and love Hillary. While I agree that during the primary 90% of AA voted for him (I’m one of the 10% who did niot), and caused him to win the southern states, AA votes did not put him over the top. It was the white liberal elites and republican crossover voters in the red states who did that. And yes Obama did play the race-baiting card on the Clintons. Having marched with Dr. King during my college days in MS, I want everyone to know that I truly despise Obama and will never vote for him. Being a minister first I believe Dr. King will be disappointed and grieving during the convention when Obama speaks on the anniversary of the civil rights struggle. I KNOW I WILL because with his race tactics Obama has dishonored my work and the work of whites and blacks who fought in the struggle.
Even though I have heard it so many times, I can’t believe the nerve and arrogance of Obama and his supporters.
The things that come out of their mouths! They sound like they believe they are untouchable no matter what they say or do.
They are in for such a huge shock! No one is invincible!
If they think they’ve seen Shock and Awe before, wait til they experience it when their little kingdom comes crashing down.
The Clinton wing of the party will rule again, if the Democratic Party can survive by purging itself of all the corruption.
Kind-of-feels like what it must of be like when Hitler took over Germany!!!!
Precisely!
Obama as CiC? Based on what experience? Community organizing? A job as a part-time state legislator? A few visits to the troops? What exactly is his in-depth wartime or military experience? A trip to Europe?
I hope he uses the old “I didn’t vote for the Iraq War” line. For once he’ll be telling the truth. Too bad he wasn’t in either the House or the Senate so it wasn’t a choice he had to make.
Of course in 2004 Democrats defending John Kerry (read so-called progressives/liberals and bloggers) were insisting that they’d read the IWR and it contained no authority to go to war.
Funny how that view changed when Hillary ran for office.
Biden voted for the IWR and the so-called progressives/liberals/bloggers are already making excuses for him. But Hillary’s vote was unforgivable. There’s no double standard here at all.
NBC the anti Hillary network on Sunday showed the Polls with the column of who do you trust the most to be Commander In Chief–McCain 58%— Obama 35%
NBC … Nothing But Crap
Hillary’s Delegate says Jones called her ‘Uncle Tom’
DENVER — A black Hillary Clinton delegate on Sunday accused state Senate President Emil Jones of calling her an “Uncle Tom.”
Jones — Barack Obama’s political mentor — denied using the racially loaded slur against Chicago political consultant Delmarie Cobb, but two aldermen who said they witnessed the Saturday night exchange back up Cobb’s account
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
It looks like as bad as it can be for a Black person to be a conservative Republican, it’s ten times worse to be a HIllary supporter.
Delmarie Cobb….keep fighting the good fight.
That man is a menace.
The MSM would have you believe that there are no people of color who support HRC. Obviously that is a crock.
You know what they say. “A picture is worth a thousands words“. And this one, pre makeover shows their arrogant and angry side just too well.
http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images11/us_rich_scandal/barack_michelle_obama.jpe
It seems to me that President Clinton knows something we don’t. When he was in Africa, he made the statement that he would talk about the shenanigans that went on in January. Do you think he would be willing to come out and say anything derogatory about the Alien Spawn if he thought he had a snowballs chance in Hell of winning. I don’t. And personally, I think everyone but Biden turned down the V.P. slot. They told on FOX that he wasn’t told until Friday that he was the pick. Maybe he didn’t get the news that Alien Spawn is a downward ticket back to Chicago Thugland. PUMA
Actually I think it was a choice between Biden and Richardson and they flipped a coin.
I knew it wasn’t going to Richardson. Because I think Barry wanted more loyalty (to feed his vanity)and just like Barry would have been better off being a Republican, acting like it doesn’t but unwilling to commit when you waffle, won’t make Repubs trust him, Richardson selling out for his next meal ticket, doesn’t make Barry trust him either.
Richardson doing the fundraisers for Hillary was another clue. He doesn’t do ANY thing without a reason to benefit HIM, and he was already trying to mend fences with the Clintons, which meant he knew he wasn’t going to be VP….then came the final clue, he started cleaning out his deadbeat appointed administration this week. DING DING DING DING.
Biden lost?
Good point.
Hillary was better prepared than any other candidate –EXCEPT–in the area of racism, she didn’t expect it. Blind sided by the same bastard she helped to be elected to the US Senate.
Do you know anyone who tried to flip several homes during the real estate bubble?
Do you know someone who took out a liar’s loan, by purchasing a home they could not afford?
The Wall Street banks who made these loans knew it at the time, they made billions in profits when they made the loans, and now they want the taxpayer to bail them out.
Obama is siding with these Wall Street firms.
Obama thinks the taxpayer should bail out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, which will sent a trillion dollars to China, India and Japan, plus the Wall Street firms who created this mess.
Simply put, Obama thinks the tax payer should bail out the people who committed fraud to buy homes they could not afford to begin with and the Wall Street firms who enabled the whole mess.
Also, one of Obama’s key advisor’s created the 1990s “Harry & Louise” ads against HRC and her universal health insurance initiative. He was the same guy who resurrected the ads during the primaries against HRC.
And the Ozombies think that Obama is actually for universal health insurance! He’s a wet dream for the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries.
Good Job, Debra. Did anyone watch her interview with Shepard Smith?
I missed the Obama ad at the beginning of the segment. Was the song saying..don’t know much about history, don’t much biology ..playing?
ROFL..Obama’s history retention= 57 states
Obama’s biology retention= life begins uhh uhh let me just make myself clear uhh uhh…that was not the embryo I knew
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
“Was the song saying..don’t know much about history, don’t much biology ..playing?”
That’s FUNNY…
Yes to Sam Cooke….. Back when actual talent sold recordings.
That has got to be the theme sond for the Dem Convention.
“What a Wonderful World it Would Be”
Don’t know much about history,
don’t know much biology.
Don’t know much about a science book,
don’t know much about the french I took.
But I do know that I love you,
and I know that if you love me, too,
what a wonderful world this would be.
Don’t know much about geography,
don’t know much trigonometry.
Don’t know much about algebra,
don’t know what s slide rule is for.
But I know that one and one is two,
and if this one could be with you,
what a wonderful world this would be.
I don’t claim to be an ‘A’ student,
but I’m tryin’ to be.
For maybe by being an ‘A’-student, baby,
I can win your love for me.
Don’t know much about history,
don’t know much biology.
Don’t know much about a science book,
don’t know much about the french I took.
But I do know that I love you,
and I know that if you love me, too,
what a wonderful world this would be.
History
Biology
Science book
French I took.
But I do know that I love you,
and I know that if you love me, too,
what a wonderful world this would be
Just keep on passin that Hopium Bong! Don’t be a bogart!
Missed it…just got in. Will you guys please post
it. Thanks.
It’s hard say this , but this election has left me feeling abandon by a party that I believed in , I feel as though they are saying to me you have no choice ( Obama) or the other option, is the other guy (McCain) the DNC. has done damage to the whole process and then to think we will unite behind Obama is misguided and arrogant. People have the right to there opinions and there beliefs, even if it is, not to agree.
When will the Obama supporters face the truth that all MSM’s like CNN, FOX, MSNBC..are all owned by Republican right wingers. Of coarse they have a love affair with Obama, and spent all year trashing Hillary as much as they could. They all wanted (and apparently got) Obama as the Dem nominee because they knew/know, like all of us with brains do, that Obama is an easy beat, unlike Hillary.
So they played the game and favored Obama through the primaries because they know so many Americans are true idiots and easily persuaded, and hence the Obama movement with the stupid and the young (same thing in my opinion).
I truly don’t know why any of us bother responding to the Obots who comment on here and other blogs. Trying to rationalize with the stupid and feeble minded is pointless. I also think it just furthers their desire to comment, knowing they are stirring us up. I suggest we all just ignore pro-Obama comments by replying to them with a simple “ignored”. Then we can focus our energy on being rational adults and let the children have their temper-tanrums.
None of that matters because thanks to the Internet we know exactly who Obama is. And he should only get a trip to the White House as a Tourist.
Ordinary I would agree with you but these children were never told NO during their growing up years. Someone please get the video from CSpan from their question and answer segment this AM. An obot called in to say unequivocally that “we old people need to die” then things would be better. Gosh darn some unity that Obama has spawned.
Obama and The Ones are just scared that people are noticing they are all tied and in trouble b/c they are not buying the bullshit being given to them
You are going to let Michelle Obama (for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country) be your key note speaker?
She has a “whitey” racist rant tape out as well that she did against Bill Clinton in 2004 a month prior to Obama’s speech at the convention.
Yeah, the DNC has judgment indeed.
LOL!
Yes, take the effort to “reintroduce” Michelle to the public.
Reintroduce = lie
Her theme is “unity”
maybe she’ll brighten the world with her smile
snark
Cafferty: Could not picking Hillary cost Obama the election?
Obama has given you no reason to have faith in his intellect, judgment , character or abilty to lead.
The DNC has given you no reason to believe they have or will live up to the name of their party.
You have been abandoned.
At least McCain is happy to have you, your faith in America and your vote.
Hillary is on a roll:
Speaking to reporters after her address to the New York delegation, Clinton offered delegates no instruction on how to cast their votes, Amie Parnes reports.
“I will be telling my delegates that I will vote for Barack Obama,” she said. “How they vote is a more personal decision. They want to have their chance to vote for me. That is what traditionally happens … some people are having to make up their minds because there are arguments pulling them both ways.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/was-she-right-new-rnc-ad-hammers-obama-with-hillarys-experience-jab/
Can`t wait to hear what the big dog has to say.
thanks rev amy, I am so excited to see Hillary and Big Dawg, the rest I will not give even 1 minute of my time to
I always wondered what the hell they were giving Michelle speaking time for, now what in heavens name can she say to convince people that Barack is the best man for president?
Its her husband so I don’t expect her to say bad things about him, so they are asking us to sit through this nonsense and listen to Michell tell us how great OB is, and what a wonderful man and father he is geez.
This little shindig by the DNC is such a waste, so much money throw away to make OB feel like a king for a day, its disgusting and then to think they move over to the football field to spend more money just to crown the king, and they want me to trust them with the public purse no way not after how I see that they love to speak about who is rich, who knows rich or not and then toss money away like a fart in the wind just to give Obama his day in the sun, the DNC really has to be kidding with that one.
The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. If he is this wasteful with
campaignillgotten money now; that says volumes about Obama’s ability to handle America’s finances in the future.Just out of curiosity, why do you believe that the republicans represent an exception to that observation?
Personal behavior. You can’t apply that to any collective group labeled Republican or otherwise. Do all democrats repeat the supporting of democratic American values- obviously not.
But if Barack engages in illegal activity, displays terrible judgment and a lack of patriotism, it IS logical to assume his behavior will continue.
Of course if you want to apply the theory that history repeats itsel; you could assume that running a candidate that represents the fringe of the Dem party will spell disaster, then ok.
Michelle Obama will be speaking so that the American people can learn more about who she really is. They’ll have a chance to judge her for themselves, rather than being told who she is by someone else.
Family is central to American life. Who Michelle Obama is matters.
It does matter and she’s already told us who she is. Were you not listening or did the pro Obama media fail to report to you her self stated Anti American, Anti White viewpoints?
Like I said: It’s a chance for people to judge for themselves, rather than being told by somebody else.
I’m sometimes openly critical of my country myself. It’s because I care about it.
Then you understand that the rest of us are also voting for the candidate who — together with his wife — have a more positive take on America? I’m one of those people who abide with that “you catch more flies with sugar than you do with vinegar” kind of person. But hey, to each their own, sweetie!
You bet it is. Put lipstick on a ….
We were watching her on the stump. We got a belly full of MEchelle. The one who wanted to scratch Bill Clinton’s eyes out. The one who said that women should do second tier jobs. The one who wanted us to feel sorry for the expense of the music lessons for her daughters. The one who split the side yard off of the mansion in Chicago so they could buy what they couldn’t afford. The one who was sending money to the hospital and bought herself a raise. The one who said that HRC couldn’t mind what was going on in her house and didn’t need to be in the White House. Yeah. She’s a real piece of work.
Texas GOP Ad Nails Obama for Neglecting His Brother
Nice ad manages to bite back on Obama’s critique of McCain’s wealth while highlighting Obama’s own big money hypocrisy.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=1410
Wow… That is powerful.. All they need to ad is Obama’s hypocritical quote of Matthew in the Saddleback Forum
That quote itself is a bastardization of the meaning of the scripture.
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2008/08/obama_matthew_25_and_infantici.html
Then add McCains adopted daughter, and the 25% of income the McCains annually donate to charity, compared to the Obamas - ZERO.
I just added that video to my blog.
I believe the poll numbers, for those of us that are not voting for the Ostrich himself, are WAY OFF! Look at all of us who have not been asked to participate in a poll.
I voted for Hillary & will not be voting for Barky EVER!! I personally know at least 8 others (who had voted for Hillary) who won’t be going for BO either. This may be a small number, but when you start multiplying it by all the others that have not been polled, the numbers climb higher & higher. I think Barcalounger & his thugs are in for a big rude awakening!!
I don’t want Barky in Illinois, and I certainly don’t want him running our great country!!
McCain 08
Where I live I can tell you who will vote for McCain and who will vote for Obama. The skin color tells it all. Obama will not carry the red states he so loudly boasts of winning. He won empty ballot boxes in the primaries, thanks to Karl Rove , Rush Limbaugh, and the Fox News Network.
I’ve counted over 20 people that voted for hillary and are now voting for McCain.
Yes I also think it is very interesting that the same Obamabots who called Bill and Hillary racists now want Hillary and Bill to campaign ACTIVELY for Obama. In my book there is a name for that and it is called- Hypocrite. If I were the Clintons I would tell empty suit Obama where he could shove it. But then Hillary and Bill are statesmen and will do the party thing despite the abuse they have endured from Obama and the DNC. Tensions- damn right and rightly so. We will not forget that the party and media selected the candidate through fraud, biased reporting, and scare tactics.
Hillary 08, if not
McCain 08
The Demoncrats have ruined themselves and this country by supporting a marxist.
McCain 08
Obama is closer to being a Republican than anything.
Runt touted himself as Mr. Unifier
early on.
He should be sucking up to Bill Clinton
who is the one person on this planet who
could get his sorry ass elected.
These problems are being caused because
Obama is under the illusion that he is
of the same stature as Clinton.
He’s a nobody punk, and I’ll be glad when
this whole thing blows over, and he’s
back at his senate desk voting present.
I just love this little gem. Haven’t heard anyone using it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS2ASf5AR7A
Haha maybe because it’s fake?
Then again, when has that stopped you wingnuts before?
Not a fake sweetie. Expect to see it in a McCain ad coming to an American state near you! You trolls take the weekend off to attend your mass koolaid consumptions or whatever it is you do. It was posted on at least three threads all over the internet yesterday. Too bad you missed it?
Hahahaha, you’ve gotta be effing kidding me. How stupid are you????
Better yet- got the original transcript for that speech? How about the date it was given? Location??
Didn’t think so…let me guess- the Secret Obama Police wiped clean all traces of it from the ‘internets’…right?
This just gets better and better.
who’s giving the opening invocation
wright, pfleger or jesse?
Haha and I’ll take that dodge as a giant, unequivocal, ‘whoops’!!
But what the hell, I’ll still wait for any takes on a time, place, or transcript of the above cited quote.
Maybe you guys should ask Techdude- I’m sure he could come up with some answers.
In fact- listen to the recording backwards and at 1/16th speed- do you guys hear what I hear?!?
“BaaaarrryyyyyyyyySooooeeetooooooorrroooooo”
Amazing!!
Stupid is as stupid does. He made 2 slips during his first appearance with Biden and one afterward at a rally in WI. HA HA
Hahahaha- give up yet?
Each time HRC steps up and asks us to support Obama, I like her more – and I like him less. (Actually, “like” does not describe in any way shape or form how I feel about Obama). But I as much as I admire Hillary and her selflessness, and as much as I understand why she has to do what she is doing, I get this sinking feeling that HRC is just doing what women always do: sucker up, take the hit, move on, and …support the man.
That is what women are supposed to do. That’s what we’ve always done. But maybe HRC shouldn’t do it, or at least, maybe she shouldn’t do it anymore. Maybe she should say: screw that.
HRC’s candidacy may have been historic, but with the blatant misogyny and sexism in this primary, and with BO’s “brushing off” 18 million voters and picking the man for VP, this primary has been a huge setback for women.
This primary has been an indictment against women, an indictment of teenagers against their mothers, husbands against their wives and employees against their more successful female bosses. Because of this primary and how Obama, his surrogates and the MSM acted, it is now okay to denigrate women, to call them bitches, shrills, whores, to brush them off, give them the bird, and above all, to select a less qualified man over a more qualified women.
And still, we are expected to forget all that and support BO. We are expected to forget that HRC was the more qualified, more prepared, more experienced candidate who was treated like dirt by the DNC and trashed by the MSM, we are expected to forget the Obama thugs who strong-armed the caucuses and stole delegates, we are expected to forget the DNC’s corruption of it’s own rules in order to select it’s favored candidate, we are suppose to forget all that, put away our misgivings and doubts about Obama (to put it mildly) and do what women always do…sucker up, take the hit, move on and support the man. (Because otherwise we’ll lose our right to self-determination?).
Maybe what HRC is doing is the right thing, but part of me feels the only reason she is doing it, and the only reason why Obama, the DNC, MSM and seemingly everyone else thinks she should do it, is because she is a woman and that is what women always do. And maybe, just maybe, the only way to really break that glass ceiling (as opposed to 80 million cracks) is to stop doing it and stand up a little more for the 18 million people who supported her.
She would be ending her political career. However, we can make the stand for her.
She has more class and guts thn I do.
The only way I could reach out to Obambi is if I was choking the living shit out of his chicken neck.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/25/ohio_gov_bashes_press_for_pro-.html
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland is the latest supporter of Hillary Clinton to accuse the media of bias in its coverage of the Democratic nomination battle.
At a dinner with Washington Post reporters and editors, Strickland called the coverage “almost shocking at times” and unfair it the treatment of both candidate Clinton and her husband, the former president.
“Quite frankly, some of the people that I had most previously admired as commentators I have a remarkably different opinion toward right now,” Strickland said.
Strickland was the second big-state governor and Clinton supporter to sound off about the press at the convention. On Sunday, at a panel hosted by Harvard’s Shorenstein Center, Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell called coverage of Barack Obama’s campaign “embarrassing”
“He is running for the most important office in the world,” Rendell said. “He basically got a free pass.” Rendell also described MSNBC derisively as “the official network of the Obama campaign.”
wow.
Strickland speaks for Ohio!!!
lol @ Obama knowing he will NEVER win our state.
When Obama was crying and people said it was put on I really don’t believe it was put on. I really believe that he just always thought, “this is mine. I’m Michelle’s husband, I’m black and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate!”, and then out of nowhere came “Hey, we’re the PUMAS!”, and he said “OH DAMN! WHERE DID YOU COME FROM!? I’M BLACK! I’M ENTITLED! THERE’S SOME PUMAS STEALIN’ MY SHOW!-WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”
Good Afternoon, Sour Grapes! Actually I’m sure you’re mostly dittoheads but hey, whatever it takes for you get by. So this week is the end of you all, huh? After the convention, after we nominate the Obama/Biden ticket all your bluff and bluster goes away like a fart in the wind. Say McCain does win in November;none of you made any difference what-so-ever. pumi won’t even be a foonote in history. A sad group of unfullfilled impressionables that gave the media something to mock for a season. Bye Bye, Joe
You are a sad little troll and don`t know squat about politics. Now go play and let the adults discuss things.
I and millions of others voted long before PUMA ever existed and probabely long before you were out of diapers. So, Joe, or is that bros? Go home get a job and forget about REPARATION and the PUBLISHER CLEARING HOUSE guy because you will most likely always be a loser.
“So, Joe, or is that bros?”
Haha is this supposed to be a typical PUMA putdown? You sound like Dawnelle.
your command of the English language there Joe is atrocious.
did you mean to say “whatever it takes for you to get by?”
Actually we will have Joe. Obama will be the footnote in history. It goes to show you that the Democratic party did not listen to its’ base and nominated a weak candidate. How does a McCain win mean that PUMA (by the way it is spelled PUMA and not pumi) had no effect on the election?
I think that you will find that the PUMA movement will spur on a true progressive movement in this country akin to the one that Teddy Roosevelt’s leaving the Republican party did. Oh yeah, I can tell by your fine writing style that you might not be up on the whole Teddy Roosevelt thing. I don’t think they make a historical comic book for your reading/writing level.
I am an FDR Democrat. For your low comprehension level that is Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I am not a libertarian. If I was maybe I would be for Obama, like all the other fake ass “progressives” like:
Donnna Brazile (friends with Rove)
Arianna Huffington (former Democrat. former Republican. current libertarian and constant opportunist)
Markos (dKos)-voted for George H.W. Bush
John Aravosis-Republican till 1991 when he decided to peak his head out of “the closet”
Andrew Sullivan-is gay, HIV positive and yet has a Ronald Reagan “daddy” complex
Sam Sedar-voted for Nadar in 2000 because there was no discernable difference between Gore and Bush. [Yes there bloody well was!!]
John….
Please get yourself and reading primer and a history book!
wow…so this is what a PUMA is really like- very interesting.
Love the attacks on spelling and grammar- shame your own post contained several itself.
A little confused as to how Aravosis and Sullivan are “fake ass progressives” due to their ‘gayness’ and Sullivan’s HIV though…I’m sure the rest of the PUMA’s know exactly what you’re getting at, though.
Hey idiot!
I am a 38 year old gay woman. What I am getting at is the misogynistic bent of many gay men who vote their own interest and not in the best interest of the wider population; including the gay and lesbian population.
Do you really think it is sane for a gay man to support Ronald Reagan, who couldn’t even say AIDS until 1987? Well, that is Andrew Sullivan. What about Mr. Sullivan telling gays to have less sex and he’s taking out group sex ads out? It is called hypocrisy, not homophobia.
I, as a lesbian have as much of a problem with so-called lesbian like Rachal Maddow getting into bed with you Obama supporters, when Obama is out their with Ronnie McGurkin who claims Jesus “cured” him of his homosexuality.
God, you Obama supporters have no reading comprehension skills to speak of and certainly immediately assume {incorrectly I might add} that something aint-gay is going on. The only thing anti-gay is your candidate.
I have been voting Democratic since before you were born, and have given more money to the Democratic party than you have made in your lifetime. I am not a Log Cabin Republican and am certainly not going to become a self-loathing gay Obama supporter.
Thanks for reinforcing that I have made the correct choice!!
corrections:
there not their
anti-gay
Hahaha,
DYKES FOR MCCAIN ‘08
Now THAT’S a bumper sticker we need to start selling on Ebay!!
Sullivan loved giving AIDS to other homosexuals at his bareback parties. That’s what I call a progressive… state of mental illness.
It’s 3rd grade grammar and spelling day, boys and girls!
My turn!
“Actually we will have Joe.”
Forgot your comma.
“It goes to show you that the Democratic party did not listen to its’ base and nominated a weak candidate.”
Ouch!! What is that apostrophe doing there? Dolt!
Eurogirl, did you forget last week’s lesson about the possessive use of ‘its’?
“If I was maybe I would be for Obama, like all the other fake ass “progressives” like”
Double Whammy! Reuse of the word ‘like’ as well as splitting the subject and verb of your sentence with a comma. Tsk tsk.
“Donnna Brazile”
Oops.
“former Democrat. former Republican. current libertarian and constant opportunist”
Should I even go there?
“when he decided to peak his head”
Surely you meant ‘peek’?
“Nadar”
Come on now, dumbass.
“Please get yourself and reading primer and a history book!”
Hahaha…what?
Next!
Hey Joe:
Why don’t you go back and try reading Michelle Obama’s Princeton thesis.
I am going to guess, speaking as a lesbian who was vacationing in the Hamptons earlier this summer, that you are a bitchy little twink who got a really bad sunburn while in Fire Island!
I am sure you are finding it very difficult right now to sit your burned little bottom on any of your Eames chairs or Barcelona lounger.
I can well tell that it has affected your outlook!
Stop the Hate!!
There’s the PUMA love I’ve come to enjoy!!
Come on, tell us how you really feel!
Your response was, however, a bit disconcerting- you somehow turned a grammar lesson into a post about how you were abused so much as a child that you couldn’t ever love a man- sad, but not really relevant.
By the way, I’m not Joe- though any amount of explaining is never enough to keep a PUMA off their conspiracy theories.
PUMA and the internet will have made the difference. Without the internet, this forum would have been completely different, and difficult to sustain with the MSM in the Obama Cheering Section.
Ironically, the internet was supposed to be Obambi’s strength. History will show it was his downfall.
Fox News is getting it wrong. Shepard Smith and guests keep portraying Hillary supporters as stubborn sore losers. I think we need to make a stronger case that we really think the public has been hoodwinked by the Obama campaign, that his “win” came only by gaming caucuses (show proof), that the Democratic Party has been hijacked (state how–Rules Comittee), and that Hillary is the true popular vote winner in the primaries (cite the primary numbers). Pumas are attempting to prevent the nomination from being stolen–Obama is doing so poorly in the polls BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE TRUE PRIMARY VOTE WINNER. Hillary WON the Democratic PRIMARY season. And until Pumas and delegates start telling it like it is, all of us people who have stood strong are really being let down. The media is not getting the point, maybe because the point is not being made. It’s not about temper tantrums and hurt feelings. It’s about democracy, legality, fair representation.
Look, you are the ones who made it all about tantrums. Don’t complain about it now.
Talk about tension did you guys read this?
http://origin.denverpost.com/politicswestnews/ci_10298725
Clinton, Obama working out deal for roll call vote.
I hope Clinton is not going along with this.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/25/clinton_adviser_to_skip_town_b.html?hpid=topnews
Looks like some of the big cheeses are right with us — leaving before BO speaks. (I’m not a delegate — I’m speakinf in general of the anti-Obama movement).
I have a McCain bumper sticker on top of the fridge — still haven’t decided (though I know I won’t vote for someone who was friendly with a bomb planting terrorist).
“The night’s speakers will argue that Obama would be a more effective commander in chief than his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain (Ariz.)”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080825/pl_politico/12782
How? On what?…Obama’s ONE year in the Senate before he began his presidential pursuit? LOL Maybe his failure in his European affairs subcommittee? A speech from 2002?
No wonder Bill Clinton is incensed at the thought of attempting to prop up The Fraudulent One.
Backtrack went out of his way to praise Reagan and Bush the first, overlooking the accomplishes of a two term Dem president, Bill Clinton, who left the White House with a surplus.
Again, I really don’t like to use he word, but it fits:
Barack Obama is a hater. Plain and simple.
also:
Sugar n spice covered this on her blog, and I’m spreading the word…
We have talked about how Obama tries to be everything to everyone, and now Obama is playing the Asian card:
http://www.asianweek.com/2008/08/21/desi-obamas-new-race-cards/
At a time when unity among Asian Americans should be key, Obama differentiated South Asians and Pacific Islanders from the broader group and then told a South Asian crowd, “I am a desi.”
Desi, of course, refers to South Asian immigrants, who were plentiful at the big Fairmont Hotel gathering.
What will he say before a group of Chinese who remain on the fence right up to the convention? Or to Filipino, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese,et al?
You can talk about all the reasons in the world about why Obama is tanking, but it all comes down to this.
Obama doesn’t understand the concept of earning votes.
He’s always eliminated his opponents beforehand or cheated his way out. This time, he’s going against Republicans and Obama has NEVER won against a Republican (unless you consider Alan Keyes).
Hillary supporters are leaders and this is what attracted them to Hillary. But Obama has a mantra of hope and change as if he will lead the people. Leader aren’t led. They don’t fall in line. Instead, they work together. This is what Hillayr has done and is still doing, but Obama keeps on taking, but isn’t willing to give.
Why aren’t PUMA’s falling in line? Because they’re leaders. Leaders don’t follow. They ally. And Obama doesn’t understand that concept. Especially with Hillary and her supporters. He wants all the glory without any of the work or recognition of those that came before him.
And Obama still cannot overcome the fact that no great leader ever adandons its people as he has done with FL and MI. As leaders, Hillary supporters see this as a critical flaw in both trust and standing up for Americans.
If Obama and his supperters insist on insulting Hillary supporters and telling them to fall in line without earning their votes, Obama is 100% certain to lose.
PUMAs lead the tinfoil hat brigade, and nothing more. You’re only leaders in you own minds.
You just proved my point. Hatred is all you have.
Michelle 0bama said that she would have to “think about” supporting Hillary if she is the nominee.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/4/124123/6787
That is exactly what I am doing in considering Michelle’s husband. I’m just doing what Michelle Obama said she would do. Exactly what she would do.
You’ve nailed it!
Hillary will do her Best in asking her supporters to
support Obama-Biden but, it is up to OB to personal-
ly earn and ask for those votes. He doesn’t just
inherit them! Some people, alot of people are not
comfortable with him yet and some of his previous judgements.
He uses “Orwelian” language projecting onto others,
those tactics, that he himself, undertook in the
primary. Such as saying, “She will do anything to win”. Well, I beleive we’ve learned, he was speaking about himself. And, we don’t have to go in to the racebaiting.
Still, each person has to make up their own mind
We know who our champions are, at least I do. The
MSM are still beating them up wherever possible,
William J. Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Let’s
keep good thoughts for them as they meet the chal-
lenges before them.
HILLARY 2012
Oh you mean you dont admire someone who steals elections then uses thugs to advance their cause? what a spoil sport.
What’s this about “documents” to fill out to qualify for VP when Pampers hasn’t answered ANY questions on paper or otherwise???
Bill Clinton is old news. The convention and the 2008 election is not about him. It’s about McCain and Obama. Bill Clinton is a FORMER president. The limelight is not his anymore. He needs to get over himself. In 1992 and 1996 Bill Clinton and his people ran the convention. It’s 2008. Whether Bill Clinton likes it or not, Barack Obama and his people are running the convention.
yeah, running it into the ground.
Bill Clinton is not old news.
Clinton presided over the longest period of peace-time economic expansion in American history, which included a balanced budget and a federal surplus.
As much as you Obamabots try to “hate” and rewrite history, he was a great President.
Bill Clinton WAS a great president. But it’s not about him anymore.
It is about Bill and Hillary because they are the real Democrats.
Obama and his thug supporters have invaded the Democratic party.
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
“Thinker”–I suggest you watch the film INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (W/Sutherland) to see how one entity can take over another and destroy its true identity– much like what has now happened to the Dem Party, which has been taken over by Pod Dems.
Pods have already been shipped to every town in America. It’s important that republicans avoid the produce sections of their local grocery stores…
Pods, hmm, I hadnt thought of that, but it fits perfectly.
People forget,Bill Clinton has many supporters,and doesn’t sound like too many of them are supporting Obama,,That’s bad news for Obama..imo
O-bot: It’s a Democratic convention, not an Obama convention. The fact that you don’t understand that is exactly why your candidate is bleeding formerly Democratic votes, and why the Democratic party as a whole is shrinking.
Oh, you didn’t know that? Yes, the party is shrinking. There were fewer self-identified Democrats in August than in July, fewer than July than June, etc.
“Yes, the party is shrinking. There were fewer self-identified Democrats in August than in July, fewer than July than June, etc.”
Hahaha I’ve learned before on this site that asking for an actual source for your guys’ ‘data’ only results in name-calling and “Bacrackhead Oblowme” quotes, but what the heck…got a source??
Actually Im not here to provide you with sources, you are not here to actually dialogue, so mosey on back to the kumbaya circle.
Haha that’s OK- any sane person could recognize your BS from a mile away.
Pesky thing, those facts- always getting in the way of NQ and TexasDarlin’s agenda.
Where is Techdude when you need him I tell ya?!
Yes, Phase II of the PUMA protest—leave the Dem Party in droves after the convention so that the number of registered Dems actually decreases! Imagine if that number drops by 27% or by 48% (inc. 21% undecided)!!! This will surely send a message to the Pod Party!
Phase III–cast a protest vote for McCain and for only HRC Dem supporters on the state and municipal levels (otherwise vote Repug, Indie, or Green).
I’m with you 100%.
Agreed. That’s the way to let the bozos running the bus that they are our employees and not our masters. Oops. I apologize in advance to anyone who might take the term “master” in any way other than the way it was meant–as boss.
Faux News is McCain’s personnal 527 group.
Obama Network, aka NBC is Backtrack’s private 527 group.
NBC = Nothing But Crap.
All the Republican 527’s have to do is train a camera on 0bama and Joey and the ads just write themselves!
And you are our very own comic relief. Take a bow, Celsius, then make your exit.
Now the Convention opens with insult via prayer to Clinton. It is offensive that the opening prayer is blatant that everyone is there to nominate Obama. Nothing about Clinton, about the choice of delegates. The slights begin…
It only begins if you watch it.
I intend to tune it out and suppress the ratings. Let them see how few people actually give a shit about charades and kumbaya.
Away away into oblivion you’ll go. No one takes you seriously and no one cares. You of the same ilk as 9/11 truthers. Obama or McCain? It sure isn’t going to be your pantsuit pal. Back to the nothingness from whence you came you sad deluded ineffectual fools.
You say no one cares but yet are still here posting.
lol @ you
He’s such a sweet talker, isn’t he?
Just the kind of “guy” who could convince you to vote for 0bama, right? hahahahahahahhahahahahah
your feeble arguements amuse me. just as the pumi losers on sean hannity right now
Do you normally stink of warm pee when you are amused?
Or are you going to all of this trouble for us “pumi losers?”
hahahahahahaha your desperation is tres amuse!
Your vote is your business not for me to be concerned with. Its just that I have never been so close to mental derangement and it thrills me pumi
oh warm pee, what monica must have tasted through the lack of Hill’s womanly abilities
And you, sad little you are left with the ministrations of you left hand and the ignominity of nothingness.
William Jefferson Clinton was the best Democratic president of modern times. 0bama will lose by uber McGovern numbers, sweetie!
If you were here, I would give your little teenage nose a big fat kiss!
If I was WJC,as an X-Pres, I would talk about whatever I felt like. And I think defending all the barbs and racist crap that BO threw at me deserve defending. To hell with the DNC, WJC was a 2 term Pres.. What are they going to do arrest him?
How is he going to fill up a stadium?
Actually I’m right handed and the adulterer from Arkansas was only as good as the republican controlled congress.How’s that health care solution the great Clintons’ gave us working out for ya? Oh…never happened.Haha, neither has Hill’s nomination!
You’re obviously no democrat. And a far better republican could be carved out of a banana.
His fleeting understanding of politics is breathtaking. was only as good as the republican controlled congress WTF???? Does he think a president APPOINTS the Congress? HELLO!!!!! duh! [knocking on forehead. (hollow sound)]
How’s that health care solution the great Clintons’ gave us working “Joe” from Gaza missed the memo that there will be no universal health care and that 0bama was never ever for it!
Do you think mommy and daddy will let “Joe” stay up and watch the convention?
Funny now CNN has problems,when they started to interview a Michigan delegate for Clinton…Cuts the guy off,saying they were having tecnical difficulties.He said he was a CLinton supporter for Michigan,and that was it cut off.
CNN IS PATHETIC……….
Trashing the Clintons to unite the party….
Wow that is such a good strategy. What a brilliant stroke of Political Genius.
No amount of manipulation and stagecraft will make Oblahblah a more appealing candidate.
David Copperfield himself could not perform that illusion.
My party IS united. You,however,are the laughingstock.
YOUR PARTY? Obviously not the Democratic Party!
You’re standing in front of your mirror, popping zits, participating in poltics for the first time.
We were protesting hanging freaking chads and working for the guy who should be opening this Convention as the to term president! You can’t tell me anything about the Democratic party … Maybe you’re at a party for Miley Cyrus?
Your party? Hahaha. This isn’t a fraternity; the convention isn’t spring break; and you’re no democrat, Chester.
When asked if there was any contention over Bill Clinton’s speech, Obama was quick to note what he told Clinton on the phone on Thursday. “I said, “Mr. President you can say whatever you like,”” Obama said. “Bill Clinton is a unique figure in our politics… It wouldn’t make sense to me to try and edit his remarks.”
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/re_bill_clintons_convention_ro.html
HA! When has anyone ever told Bill Clinton what he can or can’t say?
Backtrack flipflops again hopey for some changey to the no unity picture! hahahahaha
Bambi’s victory speech=big snooze
President Clinton should know by now that the Obama people are completely disingenuous and not put any stock in what they say period.
It deeply depresses me that Hillary is supporting BO at all, then to hear the BOBots complain that it isnt enough, well I guess from their point of view it makes sense. They take ordersfrom their Drone Leaders, so they think we should too.
I hope they will be deeply surprised and sorrowful come November. But if people are still writing in Hillary at that time, its a good chance for BO to pull ahead.
Vote McCain!
CNN is the laughinstock
Obama needs to be careful, Bill CLinton has lost all good sense. He has a debt to repay him so Obama needs to shut up. I’ve noticed that he is a tad bit more irritable since he had that bypass. obama smeared him, and allowed his camp to call him racist. Bill might want to return the favor. After all Obama did not help Hillary retire her debt the way they claimed he would, Hillary’s on brother is voting Mccain. so obama and michelle might be wise to back the heck up, because if I were clinton, I would bust up obama’s teleprompter this friday night. i mean totally bust it up, and do it late enough that they couldn’t replace it. So all the world could experience his “uhhh ahhh ohhh ohh hahhh what a minute monologues” And while Hill may not win the nomination, it would make him feel so much better. getting all his rage out on that baby, could heal bill and the democratic party from the infection that is Barack Hussein Obama.
http://www.theittlist.com/site/ittlist/ind/5079/
Convention Dispatch: Does It Always Have to Be About the Clintons?
By David Sirota
In These Times, 8/25/08
Does it always - ALWAYS - have to be about the Clintons?
This is the question on Day 1 of the Democratic convention. About a week and a half ago, the Denver Post previewed the convention with a story about how the Clinton forces are attempting to make the first two days of this convention a celebration of the Clintons - and Clintonism. As one Clinton ally told the newspaper, “We want to make this all about her.”
Now, on the first day of the Democratic convention, top Clinton aide Howard Wolfson has taken to the pages of The New Republic to publish a screed demanding Barack Obama use the convention to make amends with Bill Clinton. Wolfson writes:
“There is still work to do on the Bill Clinton front. He feels like the Obama campaign ran against and systematically dismissed his administration’s accomplishments. And he feels like he was painted as a racist during the primary process.”
As disgusting and disingenuous as this is, it is pretty predictable. The Clintons are doing everything they can to make this convention all about them - and to absolve themselves from the substantive criticism of both Clintonism and Bill Clinton’s behavior on the campaign.
Yes, many of the Obama campaign’s themes indict the Clinton record - and rightly so, because so much of the country has turned against Clintonism. In places like Wisconsin and Indiana, Obama turned the primary into a referendum on the Clinton-backed NAFTA-style trade policies that have decimated the heartland swing-states that will decide the 2008 election. According to polls by the Wall Street Journal, Fortune Magazine and CNN, those policies are now wildly unpopular - and Obama is capitalizing on the populist anger they have fostered.
No, Bill Clinton was not “painted as a racist” - he was a racist during the campaign. He famously downplayed Obama as a new Jesse Jackson - a not-so-subtle attempt to tie Obama to all the unfair and racially-charged animosity regularly directed at Jackson. The Clinton campaign told the Associated Press that Obama was “the black candidate.” And perhaps worst of all, Bill Clinton claimed the Obama campaign “played the race card on me” - a clear attempt to stoke the usual anti-affirmative action backlashes that mark so many campaigns.
That Clinton’s top surrogates are now saying Obama’s major task is to appease Bill Clinton - rather than, say, win the election - shows just how egomaniacal the Clintons really are. What Obama should respond with is a very simple directive: President Clinton, please exit stage Right.And don’t let the doorknob hit ya where the good Lord split ya!
All you got is cut and paste, palm boy?
NEWSFLASH! She’s not running and she doesn’t have to defeat McCain this year. Soretoes does. Buck up.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is a perfect example; an elected senator who has served six years in her seat, never taking a strong stand in support of her constituents on any serious or controversial issue; a senator who has used her record-breaking TV public appearances to say “nothing”; a senator whose senate office adheres strictly to a motto of “See no Evil, Hear no Evil”; an elected official who has no record of conducting investigations into cases that are matters of great concern to her constituents and to our nation; a senator who has consistently stood quietly on the sidelines when the issues at hand demand public hearings waiting to determine the direction of each blowing wind; a politician who has spent all her focus and energy on a campaign of shallow publicity glitz and her PR empire behind it. Here are some documented illustrative examples:
James J. DiGeorgio and Carl Steubing died in ways no war veteran should. They were subjected to illegal drug experimentation by employees of the Stratton Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Albany, New York; killed by servants of the very government they fought to protect. Scores of other veterans were injured in these experiments, and only by the courage of whistleblowers Jeffrey Fudin and Anthony Mariano was any measure of justice achieved for these misdeeds. One person was convicted of manslaughter, but investigations into other officials collapsed because of a lack of institutional nerve to follow the investigation to the end. A scape-goated employee went to prison, while those who supervised, facilitated, and reaped the benefits of the lucrative, illegal drug testing went on to other VA positions with promotions and raises.
Between 2000 and June 2006, numerous contacts with Senator Hillary Clinton over the Stratton tragedy went unacknowledged, or glossed over, or shuffled around to various offices with no substantive action. No less than five Clinton staff members heard presentations and received documentation about the experiments, and Senator Clinton herself is personally aware of the detailed facts of the case. This personal knowledge did not translate into action, for though Senator Clinton carefully scripts her numerous public appearances to give the impression of caring and concern, her actions speak otherwise. She noted “our nation made a pact with those who serve their country in the Armed Forces a commitment that those who served would have access to quality health care through the VA hospital system . . . and they deserve to be treated as the best.” But while Senator Clinton was issuing such lofty statements and mugging for photo opportunities with active duty military, she did nothing about the systematic abuse and murder of veterans within her own constituency. The Veterans Affairs Whistleblowers Coalition, and more recently the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, sent numerous letters and e-mails and copious documentation, pleading for help from the Senator to investigate and address the crimes committed at Stratton, including unrelenting retaliation against the whistleblowers who brought these matters to public attention
Notably, the VAWBC recognized that the motivations and incentives that led to abuse at Stratton were present at many hospitals throughout the VA system, and that greed and poor management in the VA guaranteed that the events of Stratton would be repeated elsewhere. The most vulnerable people, the sick and dying with nowhere to turn but to the VA, were exploited and killed by those tasked with their medical care, and their suffering and death were ignored by Senator Clinton. It is doubly offensive that this woman sits on the Armed Services Committee, which, along with the Veterans Affairs Committee, has the duty to provide for the well-being of current and former military service members. For all her posturing; for a senator who advertises herself as a hawk and pro military; how does she show it in action? By abandoning our veterans and war heroes in need! http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds08282006.html
And other than run for office. what has obama done. Absolutely nothing! So the way I see it, you have no point. At least Hillary has done something other than advance her career. Go somewhere else and let obama heal your soul. We need our economy fixed, and man who has zero experience in anything that counts can’t do that.
And this site gives an accurate reflection of why PUMA is not taken seriously and is scoffed at, save for the media that gives such a group credence to spar division. In many circles, the diehard HRC supporters are thought of as being old, bitter, malevolent, unfulfilled, not-so-bright women who have designated Hillary as their mentor. She is a presidential candidate. Her role is not to provide emotional and mental guidance to middle-aged/older women.
If a psychologist were to conduct a complete study of the irrationality exhibited on behalf of some of her loyalists, they would indeed find some form of deep unhappiness within their own professional and perhaps, personal lives as well. Maybe more time should be devoted to improving their own lot in life, and reducing the hours spent blogging about their hatred of the democratic nominee.
“In many circles”? This must mean those “circles” which embraced the anything goes, slash and burn thuggery campaign of Barack Obama - which included misogyny, race-baiting, and assaults on the Clintons’ character.
And to be unaware of such truths? This can only be explained by ignorance or denial.
No, the those circles are the normal gatherings of people that mock you tin hatters as we work our political system like adults.
okay..obviously, you and your ilk consider whining, crying and calling a well-respected member of Congress/ and the democratic nominee infantile names such as barky, adult-like behavior..have at it.
Why not accept defeat with dignity and class, like your preferred candidate?
Contrary to what you and others like you may believe, most well-grounded people have moved on and accepted the inevitable. They aren’t seething with hate and vile just because their candidate lost.Besides, that much negativity in one’s life is destructive and unhealthy.
Misogyny and race baiting? Uh no.
But I am underwhelmed by how un-cleverly Clinton loyalists are always assigning her victim status.
People at the convention.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2U1OWQ4OWM1NTMyM2QzNTRmMDYxODNkZDA2NjE5YmY=
isn’t national review a freeper mag?
There is nothing that Barack Obama could do or say at this point in time to make me support him instead of John McCain. His past history has shown me all I need to know, and his disrespect of a former President and a Senate colleague and former First Lady makes me want to not only vote for John McCain but to also help his campaign here in Pennsylvania.
Sorry, Barack, I have never subscribed to the notion that the end justifies the means if the means are dishonorable and mean-spirited, and you are the poster boy for such tactics. Like Jeremiah posted last night, anything other than a vote for McCain would be like voting “present”, and I need to be a part of the vast Democratic push to take back our party. It will be easy to vote for John McCain, as anything else will validate the corrupt, racist campaign of Obama and the DNC, and then who will fight for true democracy the next time around? The time is now, folks, the time is now.
Bill should just get up and say whatever he wants. HE’S the president not Obama. The picture of Barack Obama ordering Bill Clinton around is the last straw for me. (Not that I ever would have voted for Obama in a million years). There has to be a special place in hell for Obama.
I believe in fair play yada, yada, but it is past time for Larry to eliminate the excessive “say nothing” posts by this Joe guy. He sounds like a repub just comming on the site with really stupid long comments. It is obvious he is a republican Clinton hater from way back. As Hillary said what is it you don’t like, the peace or the properity? 22 million jobs? a world that looked up to America? A successful concluison to the Bosian war without one loss of human life? an administration so successful that the repubs had to claim a piece of it before the ship left the dock? Larry get his a*s out of here.
So basically they’re begging him to make shit up.
Love the “quote”
http://www.borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=6926