Thoughts on Obama’s Speech Tonight
By SusanUnPC on August 28, 2008 at 11:30 PM in Current Affairs
As I was listening to Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer’s astute commentary on Obama’s speech, it dawned on me what Barack Obama did tonight. Obama delivered his version of Hillary Clinton’s stump speech to the Invesco crowd tonight (although she would have delivered it far better than he because she truly cares about everyday Americans).
Somehow, he and his campaign finally got it. As Dr. Krauthammer observed, Barack Obama finally realized — after the Berlin fiasco (and, might I add, the last couple months of the primaries) — that the “hope and change” messages that had thrilled audiences and made them fall in love with him were not working anymore. Obama realized he had to deliver a TRUE Democrat’s speech to the American people, focusing on workers, on health care, on education, and all the other issues that are so vital to the core constituency of the Democratic party.
Dr. Krauthammer also observed that, if Obama can stay on this NEW theme of core Democratic party values, he can possibly win in a landslide in November.
Another commentator also noted that Obama’s line — “It’s not that John McCain doesn’t care, it’s that he doesn’t get it.” — was exceptional.
That line worked by deftly, adroitly painting McCain as “out of touch” but NOT heartless.
Obama realizes that he dare not demonize John McCain.
Obama understands that he cannot make any callous remarks about John McCain, as Jimmy Carter thoughtlessly, carelessly did earlier today.
John McCain is too much of a familiar hero to millions and millions of Americans, no matter if they agree or disagree with his policies.
Did Obama succeed in connecting with the American people tonight?
We shall see.
But the Republicans had better pull off a heck of a convention next week. And John McCain had better practice his acceptance speech until his rhetoric soars.
John McCain has another looming problem: All the rumors point to McCain having selected Mitt Romney as his running mate.
Quite frankly, I find Romney a very disheartening choice. He’s perhaps waffled on more issues than either McCain or Obama.
Romney allows himself too easily to be tugged by conflict, and he too willingly cedes ground in order to “people please.”
Then there’s that Romney, in actuality, has very little experience in elected office. Romney has LESS political experience than Obama or John Edwards. He served as the governor of Massachusetts for only FOUR years. That’s his entire political career.
Earlier today, I checked out the resume of Tim Powlenty who has vastly more experience and would have been an intriguing choice — that would have garnered more than the usual press coverage — because he would have been a fresh face to the American people. Romney is boringly familiar to most voters, and will not give McCain an advantage.
The next two-plus months are going to be fascinating.
Much will depend on how the four men do in their debates.
Much will depend on any slip-ups or on any scandals emerging.
Much will depend on how effectively the 527s can finance and air their attack ads.
Barack Obama is a huge target for the 527s.
His terrible voting record on “infanticide” (live birth abortion) is a problem for anyone on either side.
His voting record on gun rights will alarm 2nd Amendment hardliners.
His associations with known, unrepentant terrorists will shock millions of Americans.
And Obama is in a bind in that he cannot go after McCain too hard or too personally given that McCain is roundly regarded by the vast majority of Americans as a man who sacrificed and endured years of excruciating pain and deprivation for the sake of his country.
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Hillary Clinton — always the person with the most class — issued an excellent statement tonight immediately after Obama’s speech.
STATEMENT FROM SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON IN RESPONSE TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA’S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH“Barack Obama’s speech tonight laid out his specific, bold solutions and optimistic vision for our nation and our children’s future.
“His speech crystallized the clear choice between he and Senator McCain. Four more years of the same failed policies or a leader who can tackle the great challenges we face: revitalizing our economy and restoring our standing in the world. I am proud to support Senator Obama, our next President of the United States and Joe Biden, our next Vice President of the United States.”
But how I wish that it had been she tonight, accepting the Democratic nomination. She has the requisite experience and knowledge to step right into the presidency. And no amount of clever campaigning by Barack Obama in the short time left will make up for what he lacks.
A speech will never be a resume of leadership experience and Obama just does NOT have the resume. Sorry.
Also keep in mind:
… you can’t use teleprompters during the debates…
Obama will have his answers tattooed to the inside of his eyelids, count on it!
I heard this FUNNY thing listening to REPUBLICAN radio in my car this afternoon (see what this campaign season has done to me?)
A caller called in saying that the name of the stadium tonight should be renamed “INREZKO FIELD”
How very, very true…if it wasn’t for REZKO and all the corrupt Arab ties – Obama wouldn’t have been standing there giving his speech…on INREZKO FIELD.
Nor will there be any “cones of silence” to evade.
Boo-hoo. Don’t like being cheated? Then you should have thought about that before you helped Obama CHEAT his way into the nomination.
Sorry Susan. You don’t borrow the opponent’s game plan in the State Semi-finals, for the Finals and declare it your Vision for America that has been your vision.
I made my decision, back in February. If not Clinton, then McCain.
Done.
“…it your Vision for America that has been your vision.”
replace:
…it your Vision for America as if we don’t know it’s not.”
Sorry, Bill Clinton did – successfully. He borrowed shamelessly from Ross Perot. (It doesn’t make me love him less!)
McCain’s speech has to be very good.
McCain’s opening is that Obama promises and never delivers.
McCain’s health insurance is actually much better than Obama’.
Excellent VP coice would be Gen. Powell. The AA community would have a choice. They would start to think about issues instead of color.
A woman may please us somewhat but which woman is as good as Hillary?
Between the two they wouldn’t have much experience in economics, but it is the same for Obama.
BTW, where is the nearest 527 to donate to? We will need them. The Ayers connection is brewing.
The ‘infanticide’ vote is a huge deal for most of America. It is a really really disgusting story.
Sorry, but running your own state for 12 years gives one a Governing perspective, not to mention Perot borrowed all of his solutions from IBM and the Auto Industries.
Nothing Perot did was spectactular, unless you consider massive Government Contracts to build up his entire bulk of wealth as being particularly interesting or innovative and full of solutions.
No African American wants to stand in the way of the Possible First Black President, NOT Powell, NOT Rice.
Good point.
“Excellent VP coice would be Gen. Powell”
It would have been for Obama since we expect Powell to endorse Obama.
The majority of black Republicans are voting for Obama. There is even speculation that J.C. Watts will support Obama. Is there anyone left who still wants to pretend blacks are not voting based on color?
I already posted about this. Tim Powlenty has left Denver and flown to where the rally is tomorrow. He was supposed to stay in Denver till the end of the weekend. Cancelled all his appointment and appearances for tomorrow. Several newspapers are saying he is the VP pick.
I felt it would be Pawlenty about a week ago. I read Republican sites and McCain is in a tough situation on this pick. There are no good picks for McCain to boost his position. McCain wants Lieberman but the conservatives would not support this. Some like Romney but others don’t. Pawlenty is only 47 and a Governor but not well known. McCain may feel he has a chance at Minnesota with him.
Most conservatives seem gung-ho about Palin. I would not be surprised if she runs for President in 2012. If Obama wins this year then it may be Palin as the first woman president rather than Clinton. Obama would screw things up so royally that the Republicans should be able to win easily in 2012.
Bobby Jindal will probably run in 2012, and conservatives think he is the next Reagan. They just say that, don’t ask me why. He is the most interesting and charismatic Republican of the newer school. Eric Cantor, Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal will probably make some headlines for the next few years. The party is promoting them.
I think it’s going to be Gov. Tim Pawlenty for VP. He and McCain are very good friends. He’s kind of a policy wonk and would enjoy the job. He’s young, new and not a Beltway insider. McCain will go after Congress as he campaigns, talking about reigning in spending, reform and the need for balanced government. Pawlenty would complement this message. He has excellent conservative credentials, too, and his wife is likable and interesting. He himself is very polite and would deflect the criticism of McCain’s temper, providing a calm voice in debates.
“Is there anyone left who still wants to pretend blacks are not voting based on color?”
Is there a woman here that still wants to pretend they’re not voting based upon their uterus?
Where was MLK in this speech? The humble servant that actually worked and believed in his message. 143 days as a US Senator is not what I believe as experience to be POTUS. There is a problem with the flip flopping and the lack of judgement when it comes to his “friends and acquaintances.” Of course my all time favorite, POTUS cannot vote present because he has to think about what the issues are.
Tonight was all about the white undecided voters. Didn’t you catch that with the music and the montage? CNN even helped you along and mentioned whites quite a few times. They’re worried about Ohio.
Ohio is the key.
The voting fraud is already in the working.
You’re right. Watch the absentee ballots. They’re rigging the voter registration in Ohio. No ID required. Thank you Gov. Strickland, by the way, how’s that kool aid taste for you Govenor?
Strickland worked to reform the election process.
He did a bang up job.
Acorn is already in the headlines here.
Hope Floats,
Election reform advocates have been working in Ohio and around the country for years to fix the broken elections process. It has always been the citizens who have done the leg work in trying to achieve election reform. Unfortunately, most, if not all election officials haven’t a clue about the many security issues that have made our elections literally open for business.
I can assure you that if a machine counts the votes, then there is no way to accurately audit the outcome to confirm its accuracy or lack thereof “before” the winner is announced. Despite the citizens in Ohio and all over the country have protested and fought hard for election reform, the elections process is still far from being repaired and as a result, the obama camp will do whatever they can to game the system in all of the swing states much like they did during the caucus process.
This is why those of us who don’t want an obama presidency must vote in great numbers for McCain, because it’s harder to cheat when it’s not a close election.
Don’t insult us here in Ohio. Our governor is a strong Hillary supporter. He never auditioned for a VP post so he is totally independent of the Obama political machine.. The only cheaters in elections here in Ohio are the republicans and I hope they cheat again this time to defeat Obama…. I truly believe that it will happen..
NoBama in Ohio
Spoken like a true Republican. I can’t believe some of you lunatics still pretend to be Democrats.
So a Republican calling Republicans cheaters is evidence that this is a Republican site? WTF? You’re so eager to brush off the criticism as Republican lies, and yet you were one of those Obamabots who used Republican tactics to beat Hillary in the primaries AND you all worked with Republicans to help him win all those caucuses. How does it feel to get it so very WRONG this time around? You Obamabots sure enjoyed screwing up a sure-thing for the Democratic party this year. You could have let Hillary take back the WH easily and THEN pave the way for an experienced Obama to come in after her.
But no, you wanted him no matter how illogical it was to force him into the WH this year. You wanted your celebrity candidate that wasn’t a woman, but with all her strengths, which makes you a woman-hating sexist pig.
Welcome to the real world, buddy.
No one I know in Ohio is voting for Obama. I’ll just put it this way I have one great-grandmother that had 16 children. One that had 18 children. I’m not positive how many my great grandparents had on my father’s side, but he has 5 brothers. They’re also Catholics. When my mother’s mother. My grandmother died last year it was almost a full page ad just to list her decendents. I have 9 brothers and sisters. As I said big Catholic families. Almost all of them were/are Democrat. My mother who also has 7 brothers and sisters, also has 23 grown grandchildren, and several that aren’t old enough to vote. Every single one I’ve talked to are now voting for McCain. So they might just make a small dent in there someplace.
You can add all my in-laws to that list, and it becomes an even bigger dent!
Interesting they played country music after Obama’s speech, not Stevie Wonder. Trying to go after white working class voters perhaps? I found the speech flat and uninspiring. Sorry, it’s not because I’m biased against the candidate (which I am, but I sincerely tried to overlook thatO, it’s because I was so inspired by Hillary’s masterpiece of a barn burner, Bill’s mesmerizing appeal to voters, and Al Gore’s very substantial speech earlier today. Obama recitation of talking points was frankly, a bit boring. I don’t get the feeling that he really truly relates to the plights of average Americans. The entire speech was peppered with “I will do this.” and You are feeling this and experiencing this and suffering this, etc..” I felt like he is inherently distant from my real concerns and was just reciting token phrases we could have heard from any other generic democrat. Plus I didn’t like his accusation that McCain is a coward regarding Osama bin Laden’s cave. What did he mean by that?????
karen — Obama is an empty suit looking for a body. He isn’t believable because he tries to be everyone but himself. So he had a good speechwriter and he delivers his speech well. He doesn’t mean a thing he says.
Ask McCain- he supposively knows how to get Bin Laden (too bad he doesn’t share that knowledge with our military).
He’s not the CIC… yet.
Susan –
That’s not quite a fair representation when you say Romney has less political experience b/c he only served 4 years as Governor.
Obama served 7 years as Illinois State Senator, but that is a VERY minimal part time job…only 55 days a year as a matter of fact. 55 x 7 = 385 days
Obama only served 143 days as a U.S. Senator before announcing his run for the Presidency. He has done virtually nothing since that announcement except run for President.
Therefore , Obama has basically only worked about 528 days of political service as a state AND U.S. Senator before announcing his run for the Presidency.
Being a Governor? 365 days a year for 4 years = 1,460 days of service and LET’S NOT FORGET OR DOWNPLAY THIS – being a Governor is a 24 hour/7 days a week JOB. A Governorship is a “mini-Presidency” of a state and is considered actually the BEST forum to train for being President.
I respectfully disagree with that assessment that Romney has less political experience.
Man, what’s the deal – is Wisconsin the only state in the country that expects its legislators to work more than a few months out of the year????????? I thought Texas (and therefore Bush’s experience as Gov.) was bad enough with their very part-time legislative schedule; sounds like Illinois is even worse. Wisconsin legislative sessions run throughout the year and mirror Congress. No wonder so many states struggle to get anything accomplished; their legislative bodies aren’t in session enough to get much of anything done apparently. I’m appalled.
I don’t know; Romney is too much like so many other Republican legislators – businessmen/women who want to run government the way they run a business; we see how well that’s worked – think privatization of our responsibilities in Iraq, HMO’s, deregulation, capitalism run amok – the mortgage industry, etc., etc. Romney didn’t do the people of Massachusetts any big favors, I doubt he’d do any better as VP. McCain should pick someone ‘fresh.’ He already has name recognition, is viewed as a maverick, is a patriot, and has tons of experience. He doesn’t Need to fill in his resume and I think voters would like to see him with a younger person as his VP candidate. Besides, lots of Evangelicals have a Big problem with Mormons; no need to tick them off by picking Romney if McCain doesn’t need him and he really doesn’t.
I’m voting for McCain because he is not Obama!
I’m not voting for VP.
Our family is voting against the Dem Party in the presidential race due to their Nazi tactics during the primary and fixing the nomination for Obama before the primary began.
Exactly I was just thinking…who are we supposed to vote for his and Michelle’s speech writers? Because one thing I do know those weren’t his or Michelle’s words!
I can’t tell you how profoundly disappointed and disillusioned I was tonight when even republicans such as Pat Buchannan applauded Obama’s speech as the best convention speech in 40 years (or words to that effect)and of more concern – then taking that speech and EQUATING it with TRUE action. (?)
Anyone can give a speech – however, SINCE WHEN HAS AN OBAMA SPEECH EVER BEEN BACKED UP WITH HIS TRUE ACTIONS?
Obama is on record in his speeches saying that he would filabuster FISA…well – we all know how he REALLY ended up voting on FISA and it didn’t have any bearing on the words he promised in his speeches.
Obama also stumped around the country talking about NAFTA and then sent an Obama representative to Canada telling them – don’t pay attention to what he’s saying…those are “JUST WORDS”.
It bothers me when these experienced, knowledgable pundits fall for CRAPOLA…it’s reminescent of Obama’s RACE IN AMERICA speech – a total fraud pulled on the American public.
When others who make millions from your campaign write your speech and you are reading from a teleprompter, even a 5 year old sounds good.
Obama=Bush 3.
The media is obsessed with reliving the 60’s (their youth for the most part.) This is a civil rights movement, and Obama is a compelling political figure. He and his family are interesting to most Americans.
However, Obama’s entire political career was spent in Hyde Park for the most part but well within the Chicago machine. He s just wrong for this country. It’s probably going to get ugly soon, which is why he’s going on about the upcoming campaign attacks and whether he’s presidential. He knows they are actually going to dig up his record. And it’ll get ugly fast.
Obama was in full bamboozling mode last night.
The speech was a longer polished stump speech.
But for those who are fascinated with fireworks and techno-stuff – and haven’t heard previous Dem nomination speeches – it probably sounded awesome.
But did Obama say HOW he’d pay for all of it?
No – he just said he had a plan to pay for it – taking from corporations.
ha!
Surely the corporate media (and their corporate sponsors) that has promoted Obama from the gitgo – knew he was lying.
They’re building him up to knock him down. There really is a method to their madness.
The MSM is corporate owned. Corporations aren’t fond of Democrats…we make them pay their fair share in taxes and they hate paying taxes. The Republican Corporations that own the MSM are just foaming at the mouth to unleash all the BO garbage. BO’s fall from grace will be HUGE and deliberate…bank on it.
The Clinton’s were generous to Barack in outlining core Democratic values and issues. They handed him the road map to victory, and it was up to him to take it. I’m glad to hear he did to some extent. Now, if he could only demonstrate that he actually believes in these core values and issues, he might increase his poll numbers.
obama learned his tactics in achieving power from Saul Alinsky.
Nothing he says or does is based on principle or conviction, it’s based on gaining power.
obama is dangerous and he will not be good for America. he is surrounded by “one world government” men who will do anything to destroy the soverignty of American and make this world a corporation controlled by the few over the masses.
obama must lose in November.
I don’t feel his convictions behind his words. He feels manufactured.
He is now trying to be Hillary, but he lacks the passion and commitment she has.
And as far as his line about John McCain not getting it, he sure seems to get why so many Democrats resist Obama…
That line was actually has very telling, about Obama.
You people still hate Obama just because he beat Clinton. That is sad. you saw it last night, he gave the best speech a politician has ever done. He is ready to be President and the country needs him now. Your obsession with Clinton blinds you from this fact.
Greatest speech evah? no way!
Read Pres. Johnsons’s 1964 nomination speech – forcefully advocating for civil rights – voting rights for ALL – equality for ALL!
Very bold and courageous – at the time.
And opened the door wider for Dr. King.
He is not ready to be President. What makes him qualified for the job? Being a community organizer? I think not. Name ONE THING he has done for this country that makes him qualified to be President.
I bet it doesn’t make the top 100 on Americanrhetoric.com. Barky has zero in the top 100. Bill Clinton has 2 and Hillary clinton has 1. When I hear people say Obama is a great orator, I laugh.
The “top 100″ on americanrhetoric.com are the top 100 speeches of the 20th century there are no speeches past 1999 on that list. Both President Clinton’s and then First Lady Clinton’s speeches on the top 100 were from 1995.
It isn’t surprising there isn’t anything from Obama on that list. For that matter I believe President Clinton, Vice President Gore, and Senator Clinton have given some very good speeches since 1999 as well.
Um, abt the “exceptional” line? He lifted that from the movie, “The American President”!!!!!!!
Surely you didn’t think they came up with that one on their own? They can thank Aaron Sorkin for it.
Catherine….truer words were never spoken! obama is a panderer and a liar…my guess he didn’t mean half of what he said; only saying it cuz he had to!
No matter, McCain took the wind right out of his sails with his VP pick…reminding everyone of how the DNC and obama dissed Hillary.
I thought he copied Hillary`s speech too.
I listened a bit on the way home. Obama flubbed it a few times when the cheers of his devotees caused him to lose his place reading off the teleprompter.
I walked in in the middle after work just as he got to the I’ll do this and I’ll do that (WOW! All by himself!) and before he said “this isn’t about me.” It was so much NOT ABOUT HIM that he used the pronoun “I” 84 times!
Ellen, Thanks for that BOtoid!
T was going to read the transcript…and count them…
At one point – there was a big gap like a transition had been missed.
Maybe he skipped a segment due to TV time constraints – or maybe he lost his place.
But the glitz, oppulence, and grandiosity was tacky.
The fireworks went on much too long….
Someone already pointed out in an earlier post that this was the Bob Rumsfeld quote from the movie American President.
Clarification: President Shepard makes this statement about Bob Rumsfeld.
Excellent material for McCain ads.
Are you saying Obama plagiarized again?Biden and Obama. Birds of a feather.
Plagiarized feathers.
Are you kidding me?! Amazing. I’ll have to look that up at IMDb.com
SusanUnPc. DuPont circle? Yeah? LOL
some great quotes.
Its not stolen from American President – I think this is the quote the person was thinking of, which is part of a much longer, excellent monologue:
“I’ve known Bob Rumson for years, and I’ve been operating under the assumption that the reason Bob devotes so much time and energy to shouting at the rain was that he simply didn’t get it. Well, I was wrong. Bob’s problem isn’t that he doesn’t get it. Bob’s problem is that he can’t sell it! We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who’s to blame for it.”
I’d like to know who made this idiotic statement since it seems inane unless he can back it up with facts. It seems to me that that statement would apply to Obama.
I did not listen to Obama’s speech so what did he claim McCain did not care about and does not get?
It is clear to me that Obama only cares about himself and does not have a clue of what he is talking about and is way out of the mainstream.
It seems inane to me. It’s snappy, but what does it mean?
“It’s not that John McCain doesn’t care, it’s that he doesn’t get it.”
It could be fleshed out to say, “It’s not that McCain doesn’t mean well, but he doesn’t understand what is going on.” So, is he saying McCain is senile or stupid? He’s nice enough, but incompetent? Which part of Obama’s rocket science of change is too complex for the old guy?
Everyone needs to WRITE IN TO THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN and give them these REFERENCES to the “glorious” STOLEN one liners that the pundits are lauding.
The MCCain Camp then needs to make a hilarious YouTube showing Obama stealing other people’s speeches and showing that the lines tonight were also stolen.
Could end with something like:
“Barack, THAT isn’t change – in fact, your words, your ‘lines’ have all been said before. When is ‘change’ just a stolen promise?”
GIVE THEM YOUR IDEAS & then be sure you mention you’re a Hillary supporter – they’re REALLY trying to win us over and know they need to do it immediately.
Hillary tried that once, you know with the line “change you can xerox”…we all see where that got her
Axlerod is a huge movie fan. Not for the films themselves, but for the script. If you read the transcript of Obama’s speeches you’ll find lines from different films. Example: “together we can!”, from the Duval Patrick campaign came from “The Matrix”. Axlerod figured it worked for Patrick so he changed it a little and we got “yes we can!”.
“Yes we can” or the Spanish version, “SI Se Puede” is a labor saying from Caesar Chavez. I have dozens of T-shirts and buttons from my union with the English and Spanish versions and they all predate this primary.
Hillary first used the phrase in Nevada as that is the rally cry of the Culinary Workers in UNITE HERE (all of the casino workers). Obama then used it in one of his speeches, and his young followers with no sense of history took it to be an original slogan. Then Will-I-Am used it as the reoccurring line in his YouTube Music video.
Not original but also has nothing to do with the Matrix. If Obama said “I have a dream,” a good number of his supporters would probably think he wrote that as well.
You know what i noticed – both Bidden ( last night ) and Obama (tonight) spoke about Obama’s mother side of the family but he failed to mention his father’s side of the family ex. grandmother in Kenya………hmmmmmmmm. Am I correct?
what was the line? His father was “absent.” Not Obama’s fault, but his father’s history was totally glossed over.
They did say his father from Kenya,and MOther from Kansas…Fox also had biography,and his mother went to Kenya to live and marry,because she was three months pregnant,when she married obama’s father..They lived in Kenya for two years,and than separated.
If they are saying he was born in Kenya, I hope they have proof because that makes him ineligible to be POTUS.
Or the brother that is ashamed of him and lives on less than $1 p/day.
The bio film most interestingly did not mention the stepfather who adopted him and took he and his mother to live for a time in Indonesia.
Because if they mentioned that she married foreign Muslim men back to back and spent most of her adult life in Asia, then where would the “single mother on food stamps” come into play?
Right you are.
Not a Muslim in the crowd.
Also, why is it Obama always says he came from a single parent family, when the grandafather and grandmother supposedly raised him.
Sounds like he’s trying to appear that he came from a hard luck family like Clinton. SOmeone from the washington post said Obama’s dad left after he was born-not 2.
1$ per month.
You dear are a LIAR! His brother is not ashamed of him. His brother is Kenyan and not to show how LITTLE you know about culture but that is a standard home in a Kenyan village….your candidate LOST, get over it…life is too short for all of your foolishness…
If you knew for sure that today was your last day on earth is this how you would be spending it???
I never heard him talk about his family in Kenya either. Is he afraid more people are going to find out about Raila and what happened with him? Knowing that there are published articles that he held up his speech in PA to take a phone call from him. Published articles that he campaigned for him in 2006. Held up his speech to take a call from a man accused of genocide for 600 people being burned alive in churches. Sure thing I’ll jump right on that bandwagon.
Obama’s cousin in Kenya Odinga was caught in 1982 trying to overthrow the Kenyan govenment. Recently Odinga ran for president of Kenya and lost. Odinga wanted to bring Sharia Muslim law to Kenya.
Obama SUPPORTED his cousin until the elections started here.
That’s true – Obama DID SUPPORT his cousin and his cousin absolutely wanted to bring Sharia Muslim law to Kenya.
Obama backed away from all that when he began his campaigning.
Remember when Obama revisited Africa awhile back? He promised a school there (which was named after him) that he would support it because they were lacking supplies, etc. Everyone in the village rejoiced and they even built on extra lab space because Barack Obama mentioned that he was concerned that they didn’t have microscopes, etc.
The entire village was so happy…only problem? No money ever came from Barack Obama. In fact, according to the magazine article, they never heard one more word or received one cent from Barack Obama. (Will try to find the article link.)
From the video prior to the speech – the viewer wasn’t given a TIMELINE of Obama’s life.
Just various pics of him here and there during his childhood – but no sequence.
Obama uses “single mother” as often as McCain uses P.O.W. – but his grandmother raised him! – and she wasn’t on welfare.
Obama always attended private schools – never public.
hey hang on a sec susan. Governor of a state for 4 years, managed the Utah Olympics, has run a successful business and you claim he has less experience that Obama?
Come on.
Susan don’t even think about drinking the koolaid.
Yes, I was reading this article thinking, crap, is No Quarter going pro-Obama? Where will I get real info now? Please do not drink the kool aid. A fraud promising great things is still a fraud and frauds do not keep promises!
Ok, let’s keep in mind the meaning of fraud:
Definition: [n] something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage
[n] intentional deception resulting in injury to another person
[n] a person who makes deceitful pretenses
Still a fraud no matter how your look at him, in ancient Greece, Chicago or Washinton DC, still a fraud!
I fear susan is beginning to succumb to the dark side. The untiy guilt pitch that plays on the misplaced loyalty to the democratic party is pretty effective…lets face it if we were not true democrats whe wouldn’t even consider it….but luckily that dog wont hunt…once Bacrackhead Obullshitartist pulls another fast one on the people…incoming anytime now…
“I fear susan is beginning to succumb to the dark side.”
She had already started moving that way with her anti-McCain posts this week, but this post takes the cake with its prediction that Obama could win by a “landslide.” Huh? Am I really reading NoQuarter here?
Even if all Democrats fall in line (which they won’t), half the country is still conservative and will vote McCain. This will be a very close election no matter what.
I did not watch the speech, and I don’t think everyone will. So for any good feelings Susan may have gotten, when she was apparently sucked in by Obama’s NLP/hypnotic speech techniques, won’t apply to most Americans.
I was out this evening, not even in front of my television.
That prediction was made by Chucky Kraphammer not Susan, reading comprehension is good 4U.
That’s sounds like a strange thing to say from Charles. Today he’s written something different about Obama. What’s with the republicans say what Obama should say. Hello-we don’t want him to win.
Hillary or Bust said:
And that is one of the reasons I did not watch/listen tonight, and will read the written version instead. Otherwise, it’s just asking to be manipulated. (Skeptical? Some churches spend tens of thousands on their sound systems and lightings because they know there is a return on that kind of investment. I’ve studied communication theory for a couple decades and I know how easy it is to be affected even when you know all the tricks and intend not to be. How much did Owhathisname spend on the Greco-Roman temple? I’ll stick with the words on paper, thank you.)
It’s occurred to me that it might be fun to dissect Obama’s speeches from the NLP/hypnotic communication angle, though. For those of you who haven’t heard of it, NLP stands for neuro-linguistic programming, and one way to define it is, “the use of language and other communication methods to create (oh, sorry to say this word) change.” Now, we know from watching him that his on-the-fly use of language to create change isn’t a strong point (that’s why he has speech writers), but he gets points for flexibility in delivery of the words provided to him.
Obama’s delivery style often tends toward “pulpit”, which as noted above is a common environment in which to find NLP-type methods in use. My partner and I would occasionally tune in a televangelist for sport and compete with each other to see who could identify the most communication tricks being used.
I watched the whole speech to learn. My husband and my son was totally sucked in. I have worked on my son, he is waking up. My husband will need at least a week to cool down.
Unfortunately enough this was a very good speech.
He had lots of holes in the facts, but as a whole, the speech was good.
What’s up with the Ayers papers?
That’s why I don’t watch, and I only read the transcripts. Without his pretty face and oratory, he’s a big nothing.
Michelle needs to stop dressing her 10 TEN year old like a woman. Just because she’s tall and can wear teen age dresses, doesn’t mean she should. And she STRAIGHTENS her little girls hair!
Bellevue_NW-Voter,
Trinity Church actually advertises speech classes given at their church on their website. From what i’ve heard from acquaintances in Chicago, they very much were training participants to give speeches in the MLK -AA gospel style – that particular cadence; I guess for the neuro-linguistic programming that you mention.
Obama very much knows what he’s doing.
I agree, you have to read a speech to find out what was actually said. As for the backdrop for his speech, that was a waste. Very rarely did they show anything other than a closeup of Obama, negating the visual effect for anyone other than those present. He took such a beating in the press for the backdrop that they realized it couldn’t be used, hence the tight shots.
Does anybody know if Obama or his handlers are in contact with Tony Robbins? He’s made millions coaching people in NLP, and has been known during his seminars to test the crowd for political leanings (We need to split up for this exercise: Republicans stand on the right side of the room, Democrats stand on the right, Independents stay in the middle.) As far as the hypnosis aspect of NLP, I’ve personally been in an auditorium with about 800 people while Robbins reads a passage and 80% of the room falls into a deep trance (Several of us had to dive to stop one poor woman from falling out of her seat.), so don’t discount it as BS; it works.
To paraphrase from Indiana Jones, No matter what you hear Marion, don’t look at it!. I fear Susan took a little peek…
No Quarter is not drinking the Kool-Aid, but Susan has been trying to gently steer us toward Obama for some time now.
It won`t work, so STOP it.
Nobody can steer me towards Obama since I started doing research on him 8 months ago when I got suspicious of the whole messiah thing; it reminded me of Jim Jones. I am way ahead of the curve on Obama and am waiting for others to catch up, if they can.
Before they can catch up, they have to put their PUMAS on.
Man, I bet the PUMA company is very appreciative of the free advertisement! LOL!
Just read about Obama, his cousin Odinga, and Kenya, it will cinch the deal of not voting for BO.
Obama is a Bum — I am not drinking the Koolaid either. I know a fraud when I see one. One day he is gonna raise taxes. McCain is going to lower taxes. Now Obama will lower taxes too. He stands for nothing. This man is a charlaton.
Don’t get your hopes up. McCain’s going to raise taxes too.
csuzeq, we only have three options left unless someone can prove the charges made against Obama or people see him flop in the debates. We can; stay home, vote McCain or vote Obama. Many, including myself, will never vote for Obama, but if Susan has decided to vote for him, it would be good to have respect for her choice. As long as she doesn’t do a TM and lay into Hillary’s supporters, I don’t have a problem with that. What do you want to do, then? Ban her? Larry said people with opinions either way are welcome here and this site has always been fair. I will be vociferous in my defense of Hillary and my position about the need to stop the DNC, but I won’t be rude to someone who has sincerely supported Hillary.
Yep, first Hillary sold ya’s out, and now NQ. I wonder if anybody stands by their convictions anymore?!?
I don’t like Romney at all, but he has more administrative experience in government than Obama, who has none. Being a legislator requires a different skill set than being an executive. Actually, Obama has no demonstrated skills at all in accomplishing anything except promoting himself, which is pretty pathetic for a 47 year old.
I was following a conservative site ’s onging analyses. They certainly did not se it as you did.more as same ole dems ,same ole. ….
thats the thing – people will see things very differently.Just cant tell .
The only thing that really matters about that speech is how the independant voters and undecided voters see it.
They are much more astute than the politically affected democrats or republicans when it comes to the heart of the political matter.
They want to know whats in it for them.
And they are always the ones who say fine sounds good but how are you going to do it?
There were no hows in tonights drivel.
Even Pat Buchanan said it was a “magnificent” speech. Seriously. Pat freaking Buchanan. I don’t care if you don’t like the guy, that was a hell of a thing.
If Pat Buchanan was getting a tingly feeling in his leg, Chris Mathews was under the table.
I have been going to conservative sites and listening to talk radio. The people calling in still don’t have a clue as to why they support Obama, they still say “hope and change” but can’t define it. Everyone supporting Obama is a complete moron.
Karl Rove had some interesting things to say about the speech, and just how the Republicans are going to try and deflate Obama’s so-called policy proposals. To me, the red meat he was tossing out was fake steak, and I kept asking: and how are we going to pay for all that? Also, no mention of promoting small businesses, so there go any independent voters who don’t necessarily identify as working class.
that red meat was a tofu cheeseburger. You cant accomplish all that in 30 years never mind 1 term.
Challenge McCain to debate and then run away. Fucking coward.
and you are surprised?
its not the first time he has done that.
Like i said the speech was a redux of the bullshit from the campaign trail, nothing more nothing less…america is beginning to discover that Obama is a one trick disunity pony.
Make that Unicorn. or maybe Unitycorn.
Steamy hot waffles will be waiting for him.
Steamy somethin…and it will be delivered by the November unity pony.
It’s all a matter of strategic timing. The man is a gifted political strategist. I hadn’t realized exactly how gifted until tonight’s speech, when he revealed his commitment to a set of mainstream democratic policies and objectives.
Had he done that earlier, he wouldn’t have come through the primaries. Had he debated McCain earlier, he would have had to fully define himself before he was ready.
“Clinton Supporters for McCain, sweetie, Clinton Supporters for McCain, sweetie.“I don’t see it that way ziggy. He was backed into a corner by Hillary, Bill and their supporters.
He had no choice but to deliver a speech filled with definitions.
He would have preferred an inspirational speech, but that horse won’t run anymore. Now, like Bush 1’s “Read my lips,” everything he promised will come back to haunt him if he doesn’t deliver it.
And how can he?
Words are cheap.
Ziggy, he sounded better tonight because he took up the Clinton’s agenda—which he had been campaigning against and demonizing throughout the primaries!
He was just waiting till she was officially out of the race and would endorse him. He doesn’t mean a word of it – compare their records. But he and his wife have long hated both Clintons, and narcissist that he is, he knew he would have to try overshadow Bill. That’s why he went all sexist on Hillary; she was determined to run as herself and succeeded toward the end once she connected with voters. He had to keep trying to dismiss her and go after her husband. That was the whole “Hope” thing. And when “Change” was working for her, he tried co-opting that, too. Now he just has a really unbelievable message and plenty of suspicious former Clinton supporters.
Ah, but the primary also demonstrated his commitment to his words, which is rather sadly lacking. It’s easy to promise anything to anyone. Actions speak much louder. When he voted for FISA after trashing it throughout his primary campaign, he destroyed his credibility for me. That was not a flip-flop to attract voters. That was action in opposition to his words.
Me? I’m sticking with the pony I came in on.
Nobama
Come on, PUMAs. It’s over and we all know it. I always enjoy jousting with you but I don’t have the heart for it tonight. Obama laid down the gauntlet to us all tonight in calling Americans to our better selves. He laid down the gauntlet in saying precisely what his domestic and foreign policy priorities will be. He told America exactly where he wants to lead us and why and how he intends to do it. It goes without saying, really, that he and Senator Clinton share pretty much all the same priorities and that Senator McCain stands opposed to virtually all of them. We are one nation, and we will all rise or fall together.
I think he won the election tonight. No surprise to me. Susan, I appreciate the respectful tone of your post tonight. You always write well but tonight I feel a recognition in your words that something inmportant happened to our country. Thank you for that.
Typical Barky supporter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
Typical PUMA.
http://a406.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/98/l_fe1d520228c444081e01d51cfcfcfce5.jpg
Well aren’t you just precious.
HARP is one of our most precious assets here at No Quarter. Thanks for noticing!
Don’t count your chickens.
Oh go to hell Troll.
Your candidate is TRASH — he is a lazy bum. He has no accomplishments. He is a sick narcissistic assh***.
I don’t want Soetoro as CiC of the US military — it would be an insult to ALL military and to my father who was career military.
I will be casting my vote in memory of my father who died in September. Soetoro disrespects the US Military and military personnel.
So go to Hell Troll — your guy lost tonight at his Toga party.
But thanks for showing and proving that asses can type.
PUMA
“Well, I say to them tonight, there’s not a liberal America and a conservative America — there’s the United States of America. There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America. The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and have gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and patriots who supported it. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.”
- Barack Obama, 2004
You think this guy is going to lose? You’re wrong. History turned a page tonight, and any of you who actually watched the speech know it.
Thank you for proving Obama is full of hot air.
One America?
Obama is a fraud.
sfhillary –
Get real – do you write for a soap opera…do you read Harlequin romances? “History turned a page tonight…” how lame.
All those pretty words you quote – and yet the TRUTH of Obama’s actions is that he didn’t give a flying _UCK for the abject poor in his own constituency.
The Southside of Chicago is a study in abject poverty, yet Obama gave less than 1% of his money to charity – I repeat…LESS THAN 1%..didn’t even financially support his church which (when he was trying to defend his choice to go there ) he said did so many good causes t/o the South Side.
And it is fair and fitting to compare Obama’s charitable giving to Hillary’s and McCain’s for comparing percentages is a TRUE comparison.
Obama cannot hide behind his inconsequential, “We were paying off school loans” excuse – percentage is an apples to apples comparison and Obama PROVED with his greedy less than 1% to charity that he could care less about the poor. (Obama didn’t start giving until he began to run for high ofice.)
Did he care about the poor when he sentenced them to live in the slums owned by his best buddy, Tony Rezko who Obama assisted in garnering his slum housing? No – Obama didn’t care. In fact, he never once visited EVEN ONE Rezko slum in all those years, even though they were lived in by the people he represented…wow – what a noble guy.
When Obama was questioned in the Chicago media, once again the public hears, “I didn’t know”.
Well, it was Obama’s JOB to know (literally)and the slums were within 5 miles of Obama’s home.
Obama DID know – Obama “GOT” what was going on but different from John McCain…Obama DIDN’T care…just as long as Rezko kept bundling in the money for Obama.
That speech was a total CONJOB. How can you continue to be so ignorant to the BS this poser sells you? When are you going to wake up?
Incidentally – Hillary Clinton NEVER wears ORANGE. Color of her pant suit? Orange. Color of the PUMAS? ORANGE.
Get a clue.
Actions speak louder than words.
The Repubs are holding all of the cards, imo. Let’s see how quickly they decide to deal Obama his first hand before we call it a day.
I’m waiting to see if after the republican convention the whitey tape gets released.
I wholeheartedly agree. It’s time to move on. Hillary wanted a “catharsis” at the convention and we got it. We all know Barack and Michelle aren’t perfect. No one is. But they’re the best we got. Hillary sees that. I, finally, see that. I look forward to Hillary being forever famous for not just her primary run but the universal health care law will be HER law, even Obama has said this. Let’s give the guy a chance.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN.
I will give no one who commits caucus fraud any kind of fucking chance.
http://mccaindemocrats.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bo-god3.jpg
LOL!
But they’re the best we got
That “my friend” is your problem now isn’t it?
Unreal. A pile of lies and bullshit is best the DNC can do?
As Mr. Johnson said, “women and kids to the boats.” Post haste.
Bravo. Thank you.
Sheep.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Before, when I heard someone say Democrats were just the same as Republicans, I tore them a new one. But guess what, they were right and I was wrong.
Anyone in either party that would actually do some real good for the country is consistently pushed aside. We’re then left with boot licking twinkies that let us sink deeper in to fascism in exchange for their personal aggrandizement.
So, do we vote for Obama because his lies are more geared towards our sensibilities? Or do we protest against our party in the slim hope that we can somehow shake out the crooks and liars and elect people who really believe in our platform?
I say the latter, or we’re all in deep barkey brownies.
So far you are the only one making sense.
Well said.
Hill2016,
And this is what the DNC leadership was counting on. These kind of loyal Democratic attitudes.
Well, that’s over for me.
I refuse to let them get away with what they did.
Obama’s speech? Just words. He can read and deliver a speech, but we have no basis for having faith that he can deliver any of these things if elected.
He’s one step closer to his goal. For all we know, he may be a sure bet for the presidency given the cheating they will do.
I’ve watched every Convention except this one since I was kid. They all end the same way. Everyone is euphoric at the Convention and it bleeds over to the tv audience. This year was monumental and everyone wants to have a piece of history. AAs are in 0bama heaven and the msm got their wish: to see the “first” AA as a major Party’s nominee for POTUS.
There are so many tearful pictures of AAs and the guilt-ridden white public is eating it up. Especially after 4 years of Bush who is really the person we can thank for 0bama. He put the country in such a bind with the war and the economy, Americans are desperate for ‘change.’
And when it’s all said and done, people will be disappointed as they always are.
There’s a lot I don’t like about 0bama. He hasn’t shown that he can deal with adversity very well and a POTUS has to be able to deal with that. Tonight in his speech he alluded to the forthcoming attacks. He knows they’re coming and he’s prepping people to circle the wagons around him and Michelle. Did anyone notice that Michelle seemed drained at the end like she had a demeanor of dread.
The Repubs, if they are going to attack, are going to have to be careful. It just might not work this time because of everyone’s pent up feelings about Bush. Remember, people were only unhappy with Clinton over his personal issues. Big difference between being petrified at what is happening to the country.
And so much depends on McCain’s choice. As much as many here want McCain to choose a running mate according to our needs, McCain would be wise to satisfy the base he needs from his Party.
I’m no Republican. And many of the PUMA’s who claim to be for McCain, may switch back at the last minute.
Ultimately, I’m facing the fact that I will never again have feelings for any politician. Obama in a very well delivered speech that impressed many and stirred up the Dems on the last day, pandered to people needing to hear that he is going to look after their interests. As if everything he and his wife have done to date represent their interest in the Democratic base. He said what Democrats needed to hear. He was the crafty lover, who whispers sweet nothings in the ears of women who refuse to accept that the man is a cad.
Frankly, I hope the attacks don’t happen for awhile. The people need to come down from the typical Convention euphoria a bit.
But the one thing I completely disagree with that Susan said is this: I don’t think the next weeks until November are going to be fascinating in the least.
There’s going to be a lot of broken hearts if either candidate loses and I think there are more people like me that are completely disillusioned by the process, who no longer have faith in our elected officials. Every last one of them has failed us on some level politically and personally.
I simply can’t be conned by the hype any longer.
Thanks for a really thoughtful post, Mimi. Unlike some here, you sound like a real Democrat. I’m sorry you feel that way about politics now and hope that a few years from now, when President Obama has proven himself and helped lead America toward better times (which I truly believe will happen) you’ll look back on this campaign and feel glad that you were wrong in thinking you’d never have that faith again.
I’m only going to comment on this line of yours:
“He hasn’t shown that he can deal with adversity very well and a POTUS has to be able to deal with that.”
Do you really believe that? Think about all the times Obama has been knocked down in this campaign and where he stands tonight. Think about the toughness he just showed in calling out McCain’s “temperament.” Think about the organization he has built, the executive leadership he has shown to get to where he is.
You think he can’t deal with adversity? Think about that statement and what this man has accomplished in 18 months.
Yes, having your minions rig the primary is really a hardship.
Obama has lived a privileged life on the taxpayers back.
Obama graduated from the exclusive private Punahou High School in Hawaii. He attended Occidential College, a small private college in Los Angeles. He graduated from Columbia University, a private university in New York City. And, received his law degree from Harvard University, a private university. Both Columbia and Harvard are considered ivy league schools.
His family income was $1.6 million in 2005 and close to $1 million in 2006. He lives in a multi-million dollar home.
Obama has stocks, government paid health care, government paid retirement benefits, and his children go to private school.
Yes, he’s had so many obstacles-NOT!
Honey, you wouldn’t know a “real Democrat” if it bit you on the ass.
But thanks for playing.
Don’t you just love that line?…”you’re not a real Democrat”….when I have been a Democrat probably longer than most of these Obots have been alive! Dumb asses. They have swallowed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much of that Kool-Aid.
If you believe any of the shit that comes out of Bambi’s mouth, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale…cheap! I got some oceanfront property in Arizona (thank you George Strait) that costs a little more but you have to pay extra because of the sunset views over the water. (My apologies to Key West.)
mimi–EXCELLENT!
I am with you, especially this part:
and I think there are more people like me that are completely disillusioned by the process, who no longer have faith in our elected officials. Every last one of them has failed us on some level politically and personally.
I simply can’t be conned by the hype any longer.
Ditto!!!
Well said.
Hill2016,
Obama is NOT even for Universal Health Care – that is what Hillary spent the entire campaign EXPLAINING to idiots like, (apparently)YOU.
Obama’s healthcare plan doesn’t even begin to approach the “Universal” mark…McCain’s plan surpasses Obama’s.
OMG – ignorance like this is scary.
Keep in mind many young Obots completely believe that Obama was actually in the Senate and voted against the Iraq war! It just slays me, but it is fun to tell someone the fact and show them the resolution votes with No barky name on it anywhere. They are stunned at the mislead and stunned at thier own stupidity!
NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA! This is really what Hillary meant to say, but couldn’t. So we’ll say it instead.
PUMA
McCain 08
Hillary 12
another bot who thinks that elections are won on speeches…where have you been all these years? hiding under a rock?
oh, look at this post, all warm and fuzzy. what an idiot.
lol…no.
sorry the game has just begin.
The disection of Barack Obamacropolis has officially just begun.
If you think that vacuous speech won him the election you just fooling yourself.
It wasn’t particularly great speech, was full of holes, and lacked the hows.
YOu can’t call the game before the other team gets on the field.
No matter how much the Koolaid Brigade propoganda talking points tell you to do it and be persistant.
Obama is toast.
Starting tomorrow the real fun begins.
Yeah, I’m just quivering at the surge of excitement Mitt Romney’s going to bring to the race. I’ve read down all the responses. I can smell the fear. Just like you can smell it in the McCain camp’s stunted, vacuous response. Obama just laid down the gauntlet tonight. You think John McCain can stand toe to toe with him? Good luck. I do not. I’ve been telling you folks all along that Obama was going to win this election, and easily. I’m surer than ever.
You sure your depends didn’t spring a leak?
Obama is a coward. He ran from debating McCain.
"The NEW Democratic Party: Home of racism and sexism with non of the guilt because they put all the blame on others."glug, glug, glug
Grab a lifeboat…..save yourself and remember……….
NObama in NOvember!!!!
Are you kidding? The repubs haven’t even laid a finger on barky yet. They’ve been patiently waiting for this circus to end.
You obots are the ones in fear, or you wouldn’t waste your time hanging out here, heckling us.
I used to read over at RedState, but now I come here because it’s just so much more fascinating. There’s just no comparison.
Gosh, you really are delusional. First of all the VP is not going to be Romney. (You should read more). Second of all I don’t sense much fear from the McCain camp, in fact they are having alot of fun and gaining traction poking fun at your empty suit candidate. As far as McCain standing toe to toe with Barry, Soetero is the one that refuses to go “toe to toe” with McCain because he knows that without a teleprompter McCain would crush him (as he did at Saddleback). Hussein may end up winning the election but you are politically illiterate if you thing the election was won this week with this phony political theatre. He’s got a loooong way to go before that happens!!!
SFhillary –
The only reason you’re here on this site is b/c of fear.
This is an anti-Obama site – and you’re here trying to convince us to vote Obama…if it was so “in the bag” we wouldn’t NEED convincing – and you wouldn’t even need to be here.
Who’s REALLY afraid?
I agree with you Aileen. And if they weren’t afraid Obama’s supporters wouldn’t be using insults, threats, intimidation … and having the Convention rigged. They would have let the Primaries go to the end to see who the people actually chose, the roll call vote would have been carried through without interruption… Yes, there is fear in Obama’s camp! There was from the beginning, obviously because they couldn’t let the election process run it’s course as it should have!
NO OBAMA
It only takes 5-10% of Hillary supporters voting for McCain to hand Obama a loss. I think we can deliver.
Hogwash on the “new” Obama now modeling himself right out of the Hillary Clinton playbook. What’s new – another speech?
This guy needs to get a job as a speech-giver and cut the crap about pretending he can lead the free world.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corp poll just released indicates that 27% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain.McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/elections/story.aspx?storyid=88188&catid=36
If that’s true, it’s over. It’ll be a landslide. I’ve actually calculated the map and shown it plenty of times on here. Basically, Obama will be lucky to get more than IL, VT, HI and DC. Oh, he may get Delaware too because of Biden (3 EV).
34 EV for Obama
504 EV for McCain
This is what will happen. The national polls don’t mean shit if that many Hillary supporters will vote for McCain.
If that happens, I will LMAO and dance in the streets. That’s called being CRUSHED. It’ll be McGovern all over again.
And that means we need to stand strong and vote McCain and not let this Fraud and the corrupt DNC win. Just say NO to theft and corruption.
Get your head out of your ass.
No, Obama won the election when he gave that great speech in Berlin. He’s had a 10 point lead in the polls ever since.
10? what are you talking about its a 20 point lead.
Americans are blatently racist because of Fox News Channel. They are afraid all the McCain goons will beat them up and slash their tires if they say they are voting Barack Obama.
So they say they are voting McCain to keep themselves safe, but when november comes and they go into the voting booth they will vote Obama.
If you look at all the primaries Barack historically underpolled on every priamry he couldnt steal.
thats the only reason McCain is even gettign any votes. Everyone is scared of McCain and his Bitter wife Cindy…you know she is a gun owner and a crack shot…I hear she is the great grand daughter of Annie Oakley.
I’m glad you picked up on the sarcasm of my remark. But to be serious for a moment. I do feel intimidated about displaying a McCain yard side, because I truly believe there are Obama thugs out there who will do harm to either me or my property. I’ve never felt that way before.
let me let you in on a secret. You are not paranoid.
I’ve been thinking about that too… I live in a college town – and given Obama’s “Cult” standing with the kids – it makes me wonder what going to the polls is going to be like… I’m telling you right now, if ANYONE, interferes with my right to vote that day THEY ARE BEING REPORTED TO THE POLICE!!!! And the police station isn’t that far away from the polling place!
Have you persuaded one person to vote for Obama? You are an example of how Obama will waste taxpayer money. Anyone supporting Obama at this point is weak minding, weak hearted, and weak kneed.
Sf hillary,
You are a guy, and a Soetoro supporter, but your name is “Hillary.” Johnny Cash ought write a song about you, you poor dumb fuck.
What’s with the “SF” — are you really from the People’s Republic of San Francisco, too?
Whatever, you are so amazingly full of a tonic of hubris, shit and kool-aid, it’s a real treat to read your crazed hallucinations. Check in with reality when you come down from the kool-aid. (Mark your calendar: that’ll be on Wednesday morning, November 5th.)
In college when I was tripping on acid, I would write down all my brilliant observations and insights so I could remember them when I came down. The next day I would read what I had written and it was gibberish.
This basically explains your feeling that “something important” happened tonight. Tomorrow you won’t be able to articulate it any better than you can now.
Tim Pawlenty has cleared his schedule for the next few days, too. McCain also spoke glowingly about him on Leno. I don’t think it’s Romney. McCain needs the conservatives too much.
And McCain’s job is to please them, not us.
What, you think he should pin his hopes on people here who already sounding like they are going to tow the Party line? If he does, it certainly would be a bold move, but I don’t think he’ll roll that way.
The NEW Democratic Party now represents racism, sexism, and a group that endorses hateful attempts to put Obama in office at any price.sfhillary — dry up
robert — You dig frauds–ok. But as for the rest of us we are going to vote for the experienced one, the war hero, the American.
sfhillary–Now if Obama would onlyactually believe in the agenda he’s laid out–the core Dem agenda that Hill and Bill so generously laid out for him–that would be an improvement! He’s never shown me that he has the courage of his convictions—not even when it came to the war.
I’m still not voting for him though! His misogynist and race-card strategies against Hillary and Bill, respectively, were beyond the pale. Also, he was dragged over the finish line by the DNC while my candidate was thrown every obstacle in the book.
If the primaries and roll call vote had been won fair and square by him, I would be supporting him. But he gamed the system, thus I will not reward him for his crimes against our democratic process.
You sound about dizzy and keeping talking about knights jousting. Did the Unity Pony kick you in the head?
I believe it’s called taking a lance up the ass.
Speeches don’t impress me, actions do. And Obama’s actions his entire life point to a man who does not belong in ANY elected office let alone President. He directly introduced the legislation in the Illinois State Senate that allowed Rezko to commit his crimes. I will never vote for someone I know is a criminal no matter what party he is in, or how good a speech he gives.
bingo.
If only the rest of the nation were this logical we would not be in this predicament.
Hear, hear! PO’d vet.
The msm has been so complicit in this farce. They never reported the real 0bama narrative.
POdVet –
Exactly right…criminal – and it will come out eventually – at some point Rezko or Gov. B will cave…only a matter of time b/f BO is exposed.
Which reminds me, we should had con man or confidence man to his resume for his advanced bamboozlement skills.
West Virginia has delivered their opinion of Soetoro-Obama — as did so many other major EV states.
Obama is toast — he doesn’t have the experience.
He is a National Security Risk — to many Americans have given so much for America to BE America — and Soetoro trashes America.
Soetoro has no core values — just like he changes his name on a whim.
PUMA
WV elected Bill Clinton his first term. That was the state that decided the 1992 election. They’ve always been very loyal and took a lot of abuse for that during the primaries. I doubt that state goes blue now. Add Kentucky and Arkansas.
Maybe I’m being biased, but: 1. I thought his delivery was wooden. 2. His policies sounded better when they came out of Hillary’s mouth during the debates.
Ombama has always plagiarized, what else do you expect.
GIVING A SPEECH DOES NOT MAKE SOMEONE PRESIDENTIAL! AND IT IS OBAMA WHO HAD BETTER WATCH OUT FOR JOHN MCCAIN. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WHAT CAN YOU BE THINKING!
Wow – brilliant comment – and in all caps – you have me convinced – Of Nothing. McCain might as well throw in the towel tonight – it if over.
Sober up, drunk Obamabot. You are too drunk on the kool-aid that you are now having fantasies or delusions that will never happen.
lulz. the pod people are dellusional. they actually think the Barackopolis closed the deal with america….hehe
Robert, you’re exactly the kind of person Obama’s campaign aims for–easily fooled by visuals, logos, and sound bites. Just you wait for reality to sink in.
Robert, you’re exactly the kind of person Obama’s
campaignAdvertising Agency aims for–easily fooled by visuals, logos, and sound bites. Just you wait for reality to sink in.Do you honestly believe everyone is buying his bull shit???
If you watch MSNBC then yes. Thats the impression you get.
If you read Newsweek or Washington post or Daily Kos or Politico then yes.
Kool Aid drinker of little faith. McCain spent 5.5 years as a POW being tortured and did not give up. He does not strike me as someone who would throw in the towel against a nobody like Obama. I don’t think Obama would last 5.5 minutes as a POW before crying to be sent home to mommy.
It was Obama with his arrogance who claimed that he would only allow us this one chance to vote for him because he would not put himself though the rigors of a presidental campaign. Poor baby Obama, someone get him his bottle.
But Obama spent years suffering due to attending:
Oh, don’t forget all those years as a community organizer and living off the taxpayers backs.
Anybody notice how the video on him left out Columbia University.
Boy, I’d kill to see those transcripts or talk to someone who remembers him.
Maybe Robert knows the elections are going to be rigged for Obama. That’s the only way the empty suit can be elected.
The Republicans know a thing or two about that. I expect a close election but a McCain win. It wouldn’t even be close if not for cheating. Obama was able to beat Clinton, because she was overconfident – she was told Obama would be her VP, the Dream Ticket, a guaranteed Democratic victory that would make history.
“I realize that I am not the likeliest candidate for this office. I don’t fit the typical pedigree” of a presidential candidate.
That line has me very upset and think its shows that Obama has no class whatsoever, not on a nomination night should this have ever been brought into this speech, I was truly disappointed at that.
If by “pedigree” Obama meant that his consisted of slurping on the teat of Marxist radicalism, then yes, his pedigree is quite unusual.
Larry Sinclair is a marxist radical?
LOL, maybe they were doing lines off of a dog eared copy of Das Kapital.
Agreed.
Everyone needs to know this about Obama. Come on 527s. We need your help.
I agree…more race card. It was one of many tacky moments in the most revolting spectacle I’ve ever seen.
Fake humility doesn’t play in a pageant of hubris.
I am but a simple man…just like the rest of you…AS I STAND ON MY BARACKOPOLIS TEMPLE OF AUDACITY!!
yeah…the message was undermined by the messengers past and his character before he step one foot out on that monstrosity of a Britney SPears COncert Set.
Never mind about the set what about the stadium. What the convention hall was not big enough to deliver his speech.
i was pretty dissappointed in the roar of the crowd. with that many people i was expecting a much bigger roar….maybe they were busy eating pie in the sky promises and could only clap.
Maybe the whole stadium thing was about winning Colorado, which is neck-and-neck right now. Half those seats — 40,000 — were filled with Coloradans. Be curious to see how that state goes.
To-ga! To-ga! To-ga!
Soetoro continues to make the point that he is a sexist pig.
Yep the white voters will keep cheering for him and he will keep reminding them about their racial bias and that they don’t really want him on their new shiny dollar bills.
He will play the victim and white guilt will set in and they will all think its time for a change, lets give Barack a chance then I can sleep well at night and tell my kids I did my part for racial unity in America I help get Obama elected.
If Obama ever gets on a dollar bill that will mean that the US has become a third world nation similar to Zimbabwe.
It worked for Duval Patrick in Massachusetts. His “together we can” motto left us wondering what happened. The only thing we’ve got so far is cheated on and screwed. NoBama 08, NoKerry 08 either.
Well, I know that the last eight years we definitely had a President who came out of the working class. That George W. Bush, man. There’s a guy who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, with nothing but a multi-million dollar trust fund and a silver foot in his mouth.
Obama will declare that under his administration America will be:
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper”
Right, and he never pretended to be otherwise. Unlike middle class Obama pretending and acting ad if he is from the ghetto and has the American black experience. Zombies.
So the fake Texas accent and the “aw shucks, I’m just a rancher out here clearing brush” while he puts the middle class over a barrel…that’s what millionaires do in your world?
Biden has accepted $5,133,072 in contributions from lawyers and lobbyists since 2003. Obama does not accept contributions from federally registered lobbyists.
And he has one other weakness that hasn’t received much attention to date. One of Biden’s sons, Hunter, is a registered Washington lobbyist in a year in which Obama has been excoriating lobbyists and the culture of corruption in Washington. The younger Biden is a name partner at the firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, LLP, and seems to have specialized in lobbying for just the kind of earmark spending by Congress that Obama has vowed to slash. Republican insiders say the party is likely to make an issue of Biden’s family lobbying ties.
Also expect to hear more about Biden’s close ties with credit card companies. His largest contributor (based on total contributions by employees) over the past five years has been MBNA, the Delaware-based bank aquired in 2005 by Bank of America than until then was the world’s largest independent credit card issuer and a major supporter of the 2005 bankruptcy bill that Biden crossed the aisle to support.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-lobbying-ties/
Obama and Wright are millionairs and how deranged both of them are.
George Bush is looking better everyday with a moron like Obama knocking on the door.
Don’t you get it? That’s the way he rallies the troops to defend him from attacks.
obama doesn’t understand anything about not dissing people. does anyone here besides the trolls think the obama campaign has taken smart pills. please!
NoBama. NoWay. NoHow. NotNow. NotEver.
I hope the lawsuit brings out the truth about Obama’s citizenship and qualifications to be or not to be President.
It seems to me, that if we are reading the laws correctly even if he was born in Hawaii, he would not be “natural born.”
I also thought the speech tonight was targeted to reach Reagan democrats and more centrist voters.
I hope that he will not win because of his character and questionable alliances and friends, but the Bush years have been bad for America, and if the Republicans are not tenacious and vigilant and eager to expose him, he may make it into the WH.
Those of us who are aware of his flaws that have been exposed here and at other blogs were not able to stop him and the DNC from allowing him to steal the election.
The MSM will not report or expose him. I feel it is a real concern and the Republicans are the only firewall between him and the White House.
The lawsuit, the annenberg challange papers, bill ayers, reverend wright, rezko, auchi, caucus fraud, bittergate, arugula, tire gauges, Baarackopolis, the list goes on.
No one thing will bring the media darling down, but by november there will be so many holes in his armor that when the voters go into the voting booth this election will be a referendum on Barack obummer.
Auchi, now that’s a BIG name that no one mentions. The Iraqi/Syrian billionaire was Rezko and Obama’s Muslim cash cow.
Mary, can you tell me why in the world you think being born in Hawaii would make you ‘not natural born’?? Hawaii is a state Mary, a state just like your low-class bigotted Ohio, but with more intelligent and classy people. hawaii is a state belonging to the United States of America, Mary. Obviously you didn’t get an education in your state of Ohio, Mary…ignorance is Ohio?
obama wasn’t born, he was hatched in a backroom somewhere by a bunch of dirty politicians.
Have you forgotten you NEED Ohio?
BTW in your post you forgot to call Ohioans racist.
Oh, wait. You said bigoted. But it was spelled wrong, oh ‘bot of infinite intelligence and class.
She meant to say baguette, as in what one serves with latte.
Don’t forget the frommage, s’il vous plait.
Botheads,
The gift that keeps on giving.
Hey OhioMary,
Print Ingrids comment out, xerox it and circulate it all over your community. I’m sure Ohioans would love to hear what Botheads really think of them.
There are some disputes as to whether the laws at the time would make him a natural born citizen. His mother would have had to have been a certain age, if his father was a foreigner and then the laws changed over the years since Hawaii had been recently annexed. Stuff like that. I don’t care. I would love to see him disqualified, but I still think he’ll lose anyway.
Obama’s mother regestered him for school as an “Islamic Indonesian”
Barry’s mother renounced his US citizenship. I do not see how a court can rule any different, unless there are other documents from his mother that contradict that one.
Barry’s father registered him as an Indonesian Muslim and I’ve read nothing of her renouncing citizenship. Anything you can direct us to for verification?
So now he wants to
stealadopt Hillary’s platform. The question is why would we go for the pretender when we could have had the genuine article and she was denied her chance. Besides, she could talk about it easily because she had internalized those goals and plans. This guy with his stuttering and no record will still not get my vote.Yep, no record. But he says FIRST give me the job and then we will see. He seems to have said that with every job he had and bolted from it when karma started to catch up. What will he do in this job after all the lights, cameras, and his chanting minions go away? We already had one like him for the last 8 years. Clinton was a workhorse. McCain seems to be workhorse (only weekends in AZ). At least they won’t be caught off guard or asleep at the switch (remember Katrina?) when that phone rings at 3 am.
My favorite line from the speech: Eight Is Enough!
And then people started chanting it. Obama looked embarrassed.
i guess someone forgot to explain to the obama neophytes that as of the recently passed ammendment to the consitution, 8 is the maximum you can get.
Maybe McCain should say something like, “And what Obama doesn’t get is that his policies will bankrupt this country. That’s The Facts of Life!”
So, this is interesting.
First off, most of the posts on here are angry about Obama “stealing” Hillary’s policies. This was after months of clamoring how the “Obamabots” were lying about the policy difference between the two not being that great.
Now this post is very interesting. The policies that Hillary and Obama have both stood for since the campaign began almost two years ago (that’s, what, eighteen months you’ve had to go to Obama’s web site and look at his policy proposals and say “Huh, they are very similar”) now will bankrupt America (but McCain’s hundred years in Iraq won’t. I’m not even going to attempt to untwist the logic here).
No, I’m going to go back to my first assessment: no matter whether it was Hillary or Obama that got the nod, most of those here were going to vote for John McCain.
Whatever floats your boat. It seems you convince yourself of your own opinion quite easily.
No Kumbaya for you midget!
Uhh… When you steal a speech, it’s still stealing. That’s why Obama is corrupt. He doesn’t hold those views. But I bet you believe he’ll come through on those issues, right? RIGHT???!!! HAHAHA!! You’ve been bamboozled.
FISA! NAFTA! infanticide! public financing! Iraq war! etc. etc.
He’s changed his mind on everything. He keeps bamboozling and you keep asking to be bamboozled even more. It’s truly amazing.
BTW, it’s funny how you believe that Obama has policies close to Hillary’s, yet don’t understand that it’s foolish to not go with the original architect (aka Hillary). A hack like Obama is a hack is a hack.
You need some Frankincense to go with that assumption?
I am glad something is but you are not.
I wish you would go back to Guyana. Anyone who is voting for John McCain is far more intelligent than you for still supporting Obama. I have been wise to Obama long before most have. At this point you are still on your hands and knees with your nose up Obama’s ass which means you just don’t get it.
Hey, if only people more intelligent than me vote for John McCain, I’ll put my Mensa membership card on the table and enjoy the 98-2 drubbing Obama gives him.
Of course, all the people I know who are smarter than me are voting Obama.
ash — Wrong — I worked for the Clinton Campaign for 18 months. I have been a card carrying Democrat for 44 years. I can’t stand Obama or the DNC for fixing the caucuses to give him the nomination. I will never vote for him.
That was LOL funny. Kind of like when they played Chain of Fools before Bill Clinton spoke, and the crowd laughed and danced to it and sang along. Koolaid!
I took it that he was talking about his racial make up that he was black, I guess Obama did not notice when he was looking out at the 80,000 present the majority of people there were not white.
Obama also seem to have forgotten that none of the candidate that he ran against in the primary were black either, so exactly what is this nonsense about pedigree when a whole lot of white votes helped him to get the nomination.
The white people who helped him are his useful idiots.
So what he changed his tune once again to pander to a different class of people. How is that going to help him with his devoted followers. You think when he starts taking about health care that he will keep his current group of cult members still interested. People just don’t get it. Especially the MSM very few people actually watched that speech. People don’t vote for a candidate because of a speech they wrote for him because what their gut is telling them and my gut is telling me this guy is rotten to the core. So having rosy analysis of how he read a speech that someone else wrote for him somehow will erase all the crazy things his done and said over the last 8 months is very naive. Well unless you are supporting him but is definitely not objective.
Obama isn’t going to win any voters. How is he going to win someone like me who is so opposed to him that I can’t stomach listening to any of it? No. The best he can do is maintain those he has. McCain is the real deal and is gaining voters daily.
Most people see through a fraud before too long. I talk to people all the time who say something is just not right with this guy! They can’t always put their finger on it, but they do not have good feelings about him.
AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYour right. Obama supporters are too stupid to read but the polls show that Barry hasn’t been picking up votes over the last 2 months but McCain has. Hussein has about 75% of Dems support same as 2 months ago while over 20% support McCain, he has 6% of Republicans supporting him while McCain has 89% supporting him (up from 2 months ago) and McCain leads with independents 47% – 45% up from 2 months ago. More crossover votes and more independents for McCain.
This will likely be the week that the poll trends have permanently shifted. Check them later this afternoon.
I suspect we’ll see Obama open up a lead that McCain won’t be able to close. They’ve been working their butts off for weeks, just struggling to close the gap. From this point forward, as Obama further defines his policies he’ll gain in the polls. As McCain defines his policies, people are going to like what they’re seeing even less. It’s not so much about John as his policies.
Struggling to close the gap? It’s been effortless on their part. Barky speaks without a teleprompter and Sen. McCain’s ratings go up. That’s not struggling.
Obama just doesn’t have the art of persuasion to get me to vote for him. Those caught up in the hype, love of large crowds, and want to be on TV still have the kool-aid in their systems. Sooner or later the novelty wears off.
On food stamps when?
Food Stamps…maybe he was confusing the usda prime beef stamp for a food stamp.
If the foodstamp thing is true sounds like welfare fraud to me. lol I think Barry deserves care not cash. Let’s tell the bundlers that. heheheheh
food stamps were not available when Stanley first had barry. By the time the foodstamps became available as a government program barry was livin in indonesia with Stanly.
WHen he returned to the US he went and lived with Grandma and grandpa. They didnt need or use foodstamps.
Its a myth design to make it look like the Omessiah came from the humble people and there fore has a bridge to them.
Its like the Selma alabama got me born lie. The march on Selma occured 4 yeaars after he was born. His parents were nowhere near selma. Its designed to create a bridge to the black community for him.
Its liek the keneddys airlifted my father to the us Lie. The kennedys were not even involved in that airlift program until one year after his daddy came to the US. Its designed to create a bridge to the the JFK mantel and camelot for him.
Its like the My Uncle liberated Auschwitz lie. The Russians liberated auschwitz. and His uncle was in the navy. the navy didnt liberate any concentration camps. the army did. Its deseigned to create a bridge to the jewish community for him.
Its like the Michelle obama lie about giving up a high paying job as a lawyer to go work helping the community. THe job she got was creted for her and she was making 370 thousand a year from it, not counting kickbakcs and other moneys from the other boards she got placed on as cash thankyous to barack for his help getting the money flowin in the state. It was designed to humanize a calculating greedy woman.
Its like the Rezko lie…oh jesus there are so many lies…must I continue?
“Oh Mom,” said the woman through her tears, squeezed out of bruised, distorted eyes, “he beat me, but he was really sorry. He cried and everything. And he bought flowers to my hospital bed. He promised he’d change. He promised. I know he will. This time I know he’ll change.”
You’re on a roll, go for it!
Well, he certainly didn’t “take it to the mountain”, did he? Could have been any Democrat’s speech. Pretty, ho hum IMHO.
Certainly turned out to have a WHOLE lot of white blood running through his veins in his bio, didn’t he? In fact, because of the race cards he’s played, along with the race-baiting, and his manipulation of the AA population, he really proved tonight just HOW MUCH he has used them.
Did you see any of his relatives in Kenya that he is so proud of – those family members who make his global citizen case? I sure didn’t. No Indonesian nor Hawaiian mention. Just Kansas, and brief mention of Kenyan father – outside of the African continent. Wow. If I were AA I would be insulted, surprised, betrayed. Sort of like a Hillary supporter.
What a spectacle. My, my, my…how we do like bling. And Oprah has sunglasses with “Obama” in diamonds on the sides. Works well with the poverty theme, doesn’t it?
Jealous? Hardly. Like Ann Richards would say in her Texas colloquialisms – all hat and no cattle. You’re right Annie, that dog just don’t hunt.
McCain to the rescue. Really, Mother Nature to the rescue in the form of Hurricane Gustav and possibly Hannah. This twist of fate gives McCain an opportunity to PROVE he puts Country before Party, and is a leader in times of a crisis, by the possible postponement of the Republican convention. He can show his Commander-in-Chief ability during a national emergency.
Also gives him time to make the Republican convention be fresh, not stale on the heels of BHO’s Barnum & Bailey Circus. Chance to outshine BHO on issues that matter to people. Packed stadiums don’t pay the bills.
Amen! Excellent comment.
You think John McCain, a guy who can’t find a point with both hands, a flashlight, and a teleprompter, is going to outshine that?
Who’s drinking kool-aid now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxp-6XpB6i4&feature=related
wait, are those the same columns used tonight? LOL.
Clearly you missed the Faith Forum where McCain KICKED Obummer above my pay grade’s ass even when he wasnt on stage at the same time.
But whatever, i am sure uh uh uh uhbama is going to win everything.
lulz
The guy who “cant find a point with both hands a flashlight and a teleprompter” certainly outshinded “that” at Saddleback. Not to mention why does Huessein keep dodging McCain if he can’t even “find a point”.
Oh and the answer to your last question would be, you.
Ash is too dumb to “get it”.
Americans as a rule don’t go for bling and don’t trust “bling” …that’s why the European ROCK STAR tour fell flat – he went DOWN in the polls.
He’ll go up for a bit now – but next week is McCain and he will too –
Just hope McCain starts REALLY exposing Obama for corrupt politican he is.
His Indonesian relatives were with him at the end…you are a real pig, you know that??? Larry has spawned the cesspool of all time with this blog…I’m embarrassed for all of you. Evidently you don’t know what the rest of the blogsphere is saying about him, or you wouldn’t put your ugly posts here.
omg no…don’t tell me that daily kos says bad things about us….for shame.
go stick it where the sun don’t shine.
Y’know… I too considered a career as an Obama Toadie.
Then I found out I’d gain more self-respect working as a TSA cavity search technician. Heck, I’m better liked too.
“You’re a real pig, you know that, Girl!” shouted a repelled Madelyn to her nude Daughter.
“Fuck you, Mommy,” Stanley Anne replied automatically, admiring her preganat torso in the mirror. Blowing a kiss at her reflexion, the lascivious teen cupped her breasts, adding “Barrack’s so thirsty. He can’t wait for these to fill up!”
John McCain showing up for the Hurricane aftermath and meeting with Gov. Bobby Jindal will be a nice bit of press for the Republicans. It reminds me of the Robert Redford movie The Candidate which I will watch election night along with Election and Dead Zone.
Trust me, I’m AA and I’ve been offended since last fall. After watching that video, I puked.
I read the transcript. I didn’t watch. Did he even mention the anniversary of MLK’s speech? I didn’t notice in the transcript. If he didn’t it sure does say, “I’m Barack Obama and it is all about me!”
Since I vote for the Presidential candidate, not the VP, I really don’t care who McCain selects. Romney is one I thought would be good for his financial background, so him as VP would certainly not make me turn away from voting for McCain. Romney has a beautiful family, and I so enjoyed watching his boys campaign for him during the primaries. Is he the perfect choice? There is no such thing. So I will live with whomever McCain choses, as the alternative of Barack Obama in the White House is much more frightening to me than any choice Mccain could ever make.
nancy — what are you doing here? slumming. Go back to the paid off Kos
Ditto!
He gave an excellent “standard” stump speech. We will see where this will get him. My feeling is that the Dems (I almost said “we”) have a wimp ticket — bHo the true loser of the primary and Biden with way less than 1% of the vote — and not much in his earlier attempt. Any one of McCain’s picks I think has more experience and pizazz (sp).
One irony on the moving anniversary of MLK’s speech is that bHo’s ancestors are slave owners on his mother’s side and slave raiders-traders on his father’s side, in league with Arabs. The whole Civil Rights movement made me so proud of America and hopeful for democracy in a way that little else besides WW II has done. I cannot find one iota of these sentiments in the candidacy of bHo. And it is not just his association with terrorists that will move the electorate to doubt. In the one CEO job he had in his entire life, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he gave money to maoists (Klonsky) and leftist “community” groups or schools with “ethnic” programs and refused funds to schools that wanted to improve algebra, or science, or any skills or life of the mind. Both the CAC and national Annenberg concluded that the efforts were a failure. Add this rep to that of his radical left-wing friends and associates and his money grubbing Chicago corruption career and Americans might want to remain red rather than turn blue.
I thought Bill and Hillary out spoke him and as usual many of his words came from someone else’s mouth and scripts. Who is this guy? Well we ever know.
The fact that Bill and Hillary weren’t there tonight speaks volumes to me despite her eloquent kind hearted supportive statement.
I can’t wait till the Republicans open fire on this weak candidate that hijacked this primary process and I hope the fraud is exposed and the voting system is fixed and the Demodummies removed from making the same mistakes again.
I think McCain made a gracious compliment to Obama on his historic win as the Democratic nominee. Way to go, yes that was nice and I know you meant it and I also know you will go at it starting tomorrow.
I just hope you didn’t pic Meg Whitman the Ebay disaster queen for your VP. She ruined it. If you did, I can’t vote for Obama and I can’t vote for you, goodness what will we do?????
Obama should step down once he is exposed should that happen.
I still think the live birth abortion issue will be his undoing, if McCain decides to go with it. It is too appalling to spin his way out of.
its not just the abortion issue so much as the fact that he has concistantly lied about it and accused others of lying about his position.
These little kids playing president with the Barackopolis and the Fake presidential Seal are about to find out how the big boys play.
The republicans are going to tear Mr Paper Thin Resume apart.
I heard about it during an early debate when he said he opposed two anti-abortion bills. I still have NO IDEA why Hillary didn’t nail him on that. She knew at the time what those anti-abortion bills were really about. I certainly knew about it. I was surprised it wasn’t a bigger issue back then.
Why is it becoming an issue now? McCain? Glad it is, but it should have been a huge deal during the primaries.
Because in the primaries, while its a contact sport you avoid the really shitty stuff cause you dont want to completely destroy the party brand in case the jerk who you are running against steals the nom.
In the general there are no rules of civility.
While the MSM and the DNC could cover Obummers ass during the primaries nothings going to stop the Republicans from vetting this fraud fully in front of the american public.
By the time they are through with him there wont be much left. And its not because the RNC is so EVIL, its because Obummer has so much shit in his past thats its going to be Christmas in September October and November for the RNC.
He will get a decent bump in the polls from this little remake of Triumph of the Will.i.am. If McCain goes with Pawlenty, he will cut into that lead quite effectively. Obama, in many ways, set himself up with this speech. There are so may ways to attack him on his policy proposals, not to mention that there is still no evidence of his ability to actually achieve anything that he promised so grandiosely.
If McCain goes with Pawlenty, he will cut into that lead quite effectively.
If who does what with which, then what now? How is that gonna work, Gato? What would Pawlenty add to the Republican ticket? How would that lift McCain up?
una Brilliant
He will get a decent bump in the polls from this little remake of Triumph of the Will.
Way to get the joke!
Regarding Obama:
“He gives a great teleprompter speech, but when the teleprompter gets turned off, he’s not so hot,” Pawlenty said.
One of the things that struck me was Obama saying how willing and eager he was to debate McCain. He’s had the last two months to join John McCain in cross country townhall meetings, yet failed to do so. The Saddlebrook Forum was not Obama’s shining hour.
Lots of promises tonight. Very few specifics on how all this “change” will come about. I did not hear any new ideas. What I heard was the standard Dem line that I have listened to and bought into for many, many years. Except this time, I heard it from someone I have absolutely no confidence in.
Promises are easy. How you get there is a whole lot harder. I still feel I’m listening to a snake oil salesman. I am not convinced. I am not a believer.
Obama is a coward. He is too afraid to debate McCain.
He has already shown that he does not have the aptitude to debate an experienced and competent individual like McCain.
One of the things that struck me was Obama saying how willing and eager he was to debate McCain.
Yeah, right. He got his *ss kicked by a woman on national tv during the primary and now he’s about to his his *ss kicked again by a 72 year old. I’ll be counting your uhhhhh as you stutter your way through three debates. Good luck with that barry.
Obama is going to do his damnest to fix the debates. Watch axelfraud negotiate certain questions only and to know what the questions will be ahead of time.
Wow, sounds just like what Bush did in ‘04.
peggy sue — Obama is as eager to debate McCain as I am as eager to have Obama as President. The man lies every minute of his life is another whopper.
Obama was on TV tonight? And me without my Frankincense and Myrrh.
I guess this speech represents Hillary’s new role in promoting Obama. Give him the content for the speeches that targets middle America when he is as far from middle America as they come. She is being used and we are being fooled that these ideas are his when indeed they are coming from people with alot more on the ball than Omama. He is just the mouthpiece. Furthermore, the ends does not justify the means. Using fraud, corruption, bullying and racism to win and then giving a speech like we are all one big happy family is disgraceful. NoBama.
That kind of reminds me of what I call “the happy family lie”- the one families w/secret abuse tell themselves. Everyone sits around the table at holidays & talks about their idyllic childhood, all the while hoping that no one brings up the “800 pound gorilla”. I’m immune to those lies. I don’t care how prettily they are conveyed. A lie is a lie is a lie. Nobama, no how, no way.
My husband got a call from the Dems during the speech asking if he’d volunteer for Obama. He told them he not only wasn’t voting for Obama he was leaving the Democratic Party. That upset the lady Dem caller.
LOL, sounds awesome. I wish they’d call my place here.
“Fools and children shouldn’t see a thing until it’s done”. The campaign is nowhere near “done”, and the RNC convention is coming right up. Go John McCain! And McCain will kill him at the debates. May I suggest they put Obummer through a metal detector and check those ears for those receiver dealies to ascertain he’s not getting fed answers from the wings.
Obama is not going to win any landslide. That jackass must never win. I’m alarmed by reports Susan is going the way of TM.
Nice screen name.:)
If you see Reinhard Heydrich, in your travels, say hi.
Some people get it and some people don’t.
Well, he has become a Clintonista now.
How convenient, as the Church Lady might say.
It was a good speech, but there is one problem.
The Chicago sewage that he is soiling the convention’s oriental rugs with.
And another. Does he really have a position that he cannot flip-flop on?
Send the rug-cleaning bill to Pelousi, Coward Dean, and Weak Reid, among others. With postage due.
What a bunch of losers.
Obama’s natural state is to be flip-floping. It’s quite unnatural for him to hold a firm position. Even if he tries to hold his ground, eventually he will return to his natural state.
And like fish in the sea, when there’s a lot of glip-floping going on, it attracts a great deal of them. But in an election, you never want to be the fish. You especially don’t want to be a whale. And if you don’t know who the whales are, then it’s you and those around you that think like you do. But see, it gets even worse. From the fish’s point of view, it looks like they are standing firm and that it’s the other people who are flip-flopping. Only they do not realise that those other people are actually standing on solid ground and that not all points of views are created equal.
Most experts agree certain predisposing factors may facilitate attraction to a cultic system. These factors include:Now we know the types of individuals that support the NEW Democratic Party and Obama.
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How can anyone put Obama in the same sentence as Karl Marx? Obama is not radical! By definition he is not radical! Radicals don’t flip-flop and they don’t practice lame reform politics. Obama is all veneer – he’s never stood for anything radical in his life!
Radical disenfranchisement of voters.
julius — ask him how he could have so many radical buddies without being a radical?
Hillary was a no-show.
Now thats something I can believe in!!!!
You have got to be kidding me! Win by a landslide because he gave a democratic platform speech? For the next two months he isn’t going to be giving anymore of these ridiculous speeches that get people all excited. He will have to answer questions in debates (we know how good he is debating) and he will have to explain Ayers, Wright, Rezko and his birthplace.
His incompetance cannot be hidden. This man is a fraud and a danger to our country. He lied in his speech tonight just like he lied in the primary. He said Mccain has no experience, what a flucking joke. He treated Hillary and her ideas like crap in the primary and now he his trying to morph into the candidate she was! How flucking insulting. He is a disgrace, his supporters are a disgrace and with all due respect anyone who has the fuzzies tonight is an idiot. He is a sociopathic conman and that is what they do. Women do not ever forget!
Yes. This is good. More people should be saying it. But I fear we need a better forum to say it in. This forum is not only unorganized – no one’s ever made an attempt to organize it!
I was astounded this evening. The Masterful Orator once again incited his cult into a frenzy of false hope and change.Stop for just one moment and remind yourselves who this man actually is. Obama, is without a doubt, the most brilliant political fraud our nation has ever witnessed, brought to you by Axelrod Productions. I will not forget his associations of radicals and crooks that would have destroyed any other politician in their tracks. I will not forget his blatant racist branding of the two people who fought for civil rights their entire lives(Clintons). I will never forget how he looked into the lens of the camera and lied endlessly about his knowledge of Wrights hate filled sermons, followed by a lecture to all Americans on race unity, when in fact he was the only candidate using race to win votes. The litany of egregious lies, his rise to power by backstabbing his political Mentor, Alice Palmer in Illinois, his non record, pathetic lack of experience. No I will not forget how he gave Hillary the finger to the delight of his flock who watched with glee. His meteoric rise to power was due to dirty politics, lies, corruption and deceptions and that my dear fellow Americans is truly, POLITICS AS USUAL.
True. But the opposition has nothing to fight with. Nobody wants to take off the gloves and fight. All they want to do is come here, whine, and fight off the Obama trolls.
The fight begins monday at the RNC.
well said!
PUMA!
I think Bill’s x y candidate statement and his belief that this is how people will be voting from now on by really looking at the substance of a candidate was his letting us know that Obama will be exposed and this is the very last time people will be uninformed voters!
I’m not impressed.
A big fat speech got Oblowme into the game and he’s been riding it ever since, he hopes another speech can get him into the White House.
I’m not buying it.
Please Susan, don’t go the way of Taylor Marsh
Oblowme is a fraud, no matter how many spiffy teleprompter speeches he gives.
When is he actually going to do something?
The only things he’s shown that he can do is read from a teleprompter, and take credit for speeches and meaningless legislation that was written by others.
Call me crazy, but I want more in a President.
Go to the welcome screen for AOL and take a look at a photo of Obama. This is the first time I have seen this photo and his Arabic heritage and not his black heritage is very evident. WOW.
Took you a while, didn’t it? Barack is Arab – not black.
Heh, is that an important distinction for you to make?
Yes it is. It is VERY IMPORTANT. Because Axelrod is marketing him as black. The blacks want him not for what he stands for – but because he is black. But he is not black – he is an arab-American, not an African-American. And for that matter he’s no Kunte Kinte, that’s for sure. He’s not part of the blacks who were kidnapped to the U.S. and suffered here under slavery. Sidney Poitier makes a better case for the blacks. Barack is anything Axelrod wants him to be. It is important because it’s just another way people have been hoodwinked. You say colour shouldn’t matter? No it should not. Then why is Axelrod using colour all the time? So it is VERY important. It’s EVERYTHING. Thank you.
You DO know that Kenya is a country in Africa, right?
You can try and pretend he’s not an African-American, but that’s not the truth. It’s fairly laughable — the African-American experience isn’t just about HOW those Americans came here, it’s about how they were treated once they got here. You don’t think the suffering of African-Americans ended once slavery was abolished, right? You realize that Barack Obama was born before the Civil Rights Act of 1964? You do know that his parents’ marriage was before Loving v. Virginia?
She can’t call him a baby killer during the primaries. He sure sucked up to conservatives tonight, too, with all his talk about the sanctity of marriage and reducing abortions and family values. Once the word on BAIPA gets out, he’s done.
Sorry. It’s posting my comments in weird places today.
what marriage.
Heh, that seems pretty obvious — the marriage on February 2, 1961 in Maui.
Maybe, but he did not live in America as a black minority, he spent most of his childhood in Indonesia where most of the people were the same color as him and then he spent the rest of it in Hawaii where a white person is more of a minority then he is. He has no shared heritage or experience unless you count his attending exclusive colleges on his rich oil exec. dads dime a shared african-american experience.
the African-American experience isn’t just about HOW those Americans came here, it’s about how they were treated once they got here
You’re an idiot.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=758&Itemid=1
From my comment:
Colonialism of Kenya =/= Slavery in America
There are similarities, but there is a difference between some white guy from the West coming into your country/settling down in your home/treating you like shit and actually removing you from your home continent in chains, sticking you on a boat in chains, and selling you–in chains–to some other white guy from farther West to dress in the shabbiest of the Western man’s clothing and work on foreign lands for practically nothing but a crappy hut and some sustenance/to be treated like animals and whipped/beaten/killed. Because once the British were forced out, the Kenyans still had their tribes and their homes. WTF did the black Americans have after the proclamation? NOTHING. Nothing but fear and uncertainty with nothing of their own and a history of continued racism and discrimination even though they were now “free”. Kenyans don’t know the American Experience of blacks brought over from a far away land. Kenyans, like Barack Sr., had a CHOICE to come over here. Enslaved ancestors of many Black Americans did NOT. THAT is the difference: It’s about CHOICE. Obama has African/Arab slave traders on his fathers’s side and slave owners on his mom’s side, and went to exclusive and private schools his entire life–how’s that for “sharing” the same experience of Black Americans?
Listen Julius, We’ve all known about the arab genes Barry has and it has been discussed – a lot. Frankly I don’t care if his father was a goatherd in Austria with the Von Trapps, it’s his lies, his corrupt connections, and all the rest of his “fairy tales” that will make me vote McCain this November.
By the way your screen moniker is pretty disgusting.
Holy shit….now we have to deal with Lawrence of Arabia?
Barry of Arabia
Barry of Obamarabia
Larry (Sinclair) IN Obamarabia.
“WOW”?
Why “WOW”?
Can you link the picture because now Jonny Mac is on the homepage.
Though we may fall into the pit that is depression, we must never resign ourselves to that which we can foresee, that which we can forewarn, that which we can forbid from ever transpiring. It is of most patriotic importance to stand by our convictions in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds so that we may chart our own future, our own destiny. Destiny is not a predetermined path, carved in stone, but a moist clay which we can mold into a work of art beyond our wildest dreams. When a man stands by his convictions, he can move the world-we can move the world. We can change this destructive path created by the villainous enemies of democracy. We can cast a masterpiece. I hope that together we can keep the dark forces of Obama from casting their own destiny, a destiny of darkness and distress. We must shatter it before it may carry the seeds of our destruction.
To do this we need to be organized and the people running this site have refused time and time again to take our suggestions to organize. We have no chance. Kos runs his site like a military fortress. Axelrod is ORGANIZED. We never were. Can’t someone get their head out of their butt fast our cause will perish.
I am wondering where I might meet up with PUMAs in my area to help get McCain elected…
Meet up with Republicans.
Its more effective.
Our community along the Central Coast of California is having join meetings of Democrats, Independents and Republicans for McCain.
The McCain Republicans have a lot more class than any Obama supporter met thus far. And, they stick to issues and don’t call people racist or refer to women by body parts.
thats because the republicans also have a long history in politics just like the old democratic party. This new democratic fascist party being run by pod people doesnt have the historical understanding that its not about slash and burn all the time.
This movment will be aborted on November 4, then the hard work of rebuilding our party begins.
btw, incase anyone doesnt know Martin Luther King was a Republican.
True Story.
I will still vote for McCain if he picks Romney – Romney annoys me with his cheery Mormon persona (see Mormon South Park episode) but anyone with any objectivity can see that Romney can actually deliver the goods and get stuff done.
I’m praying that McCain will choose a woman though – slam dunk!
Yes true. If he chooses a woman – a good woman – it’s lights out for Barky. TOTALLY! John! Don’t let us down! Destroy the bastard! P.S. It’s all right to call him bastard if his people call Hillary a “bitch” – right?
John personally laughed along with someone when they called Hillary a “bitch” — Obama NEVER did that.
No. He flicked dust off his shoulder and gave her the bird instead. The BASTARD. And I said “his people” – not him. Clean your reading glasses.
Exactly. “His people”!
So John McCain PERSONALLY LAUGHS when someone calls Hillary a “bitch” and says “that’s a good question”, and some of Obama’s supporters call Hillary a “bitch”, and you’re giving McCain the free pass?
So, McCain actually gives the thumbs up to calling Hillary a “bitch”, while Obama’s supporters (without his support) do the same thing, and you only hold it against Obama?
That’s absurd.
It’s also absurd to think that Obama gave Clinton the finger. Camera angles prove otherwise, and this is an old, debunked thing.
But seriously, McCain LAUGHED when someone called Hillary a “bitch”! How is that acceptable to you?
Yawn. You do know that Hillary and McCain are good friends, don’t you? Certainly much better friends than Hillary and Obama (who obviously hates her).
So, since Hillary and McCain are “good friends”, it’s okay for McCain to laugh when someone calls Hillary a “bitch” out of pure hate?
You do know that Hillary endorsed Obama, don’t you?
I seriously can’t believe the willingness of some to dismiss this episode by McCain.
I think you are overblowing it, and Hillary *is* good friends with McCain.
If I’m overblowing that, then Julius is overblowing calling Obama a “bastard” because some of his misguided, ignorant supporters have called Hillary a “bitch.”
And maybe you’re right, maybe that is overblown — in that case, the anti-Obama rhetoric about his supporters using the “b” word is even more overblown.
And you’re right, they are good friends — which makes that episode even more disappointing. His friend got called a “bitch” out of pure hate, and a crowd of people laughed and jeered, and he laughed right along with them. And praised the woman’s question.
Would have been cool for him to say SOMETHING at that moment and defend Hillary. Tough to do, of course, given how much the GOP loathes the Clintons.
The NEW Democratic Party loathes strong women. No wonder it has a glass ceiling for women.
The NEW Democratic Party. A party sponsoring racism, sexism, ageism and hate.hahahaha
As opposed to the Republican Party. Riiiiight.
The Democratic Party (not new, the same strong party as always) loves strong women. It’s the right wing that always attacked Hillary Clinton back in the 1990s, and it’s the right wing that attacks her today. It attacks Michelle Obama, and it attacks Nancy Pelosi.
your completely wrong. he nervously “laughed”, never said “that’s a good question” and immediately followed it up with, “I respect Senator Clinton”. He was clearly caught off-guard, was a little embarrased by the question and recovered in time to say how much he respected her. Maybe you should realize in the unscripted moments of McCain’s campaigning, something Huessein and his people don’t allow to happen, someone can be caught off guard but he did try to express his support for his FRIEND.
Well Obama sat in the Pews and said nothing for 20 years while Jeremiah Wright Said:
God Damn America!
THe U S of KKK A!
The US Governement invented AIDS to kill black people!
Black on Black Crime, you are killing the wrong people!
and only denounced wright and seperated from him when wright said Obama was a typical politician who will do and say what he needs to to get elected.
How is that acceptable TO YOU?
Get the fack auda heya!
Talk about veering off topic!
The Federal Election Commission ("FEC") sent two letters (April 15, 2008 and July 30, 2008) to the Obama campaign regarding contributions that exceeded the legal limits. The FEC recommended the campaign review their records for additional excessive contributions.Does this mean Obama knew about the contributions and did nothing?
Additionally, the July 30, 2008 FEC letter states,
“It appears that several transactions on Schedule(s) A supporting line(s) 17(a) of your report disclose the original contribution of an individual more than once.”
Does this mean dollar amounts were counted more than once and total contributions inflated?
how is that veering off topic you troll? You are asking posters how they can vote for McCain if he laughed because some ignorant idiot at one of his town halls said “how do we stop that bitch”
There is a direct correlation to your hypocrisy in that you apparently have no problem with obummer sitting in a church and saying nothing for 20 years while his pastor his mentor his good friend said GOD DAMN AMERICA, but you want to use an argument that women should not vote for McCain because some person called clinton a bitch and he laughed.
In case you have forgotten troll, the obama assholes have called Hillary and Bill a hellof a lot worse than that in the past 6 months.
Just like your Omessiah, when you dont have an answer you obfuscate and distract. That may work for your fellow pod people but the rest of us are not that easily distracted by shiny things.
Go shove yourself up your hypocritical unity donkey.
Can’t handle the TRUTH, eh? I guess you’re saying it’s not important that Obummer sat in that ‘hate America, Whites and Jews’ “church” for 20+ years?
Illegal Immigration:
In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should “crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants.” He replied “Oppose.”
In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that “we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation.”
Obama’s variation was to use JZ to call her a bitch, because he is a coward. And yeah he laughed.
slim — We don’t heart cults in here. Koolaid drinkers bore us. Get the message?
I just read about MN gvovernor–Pawlenty and his wife–check them out. McCain needs to sweep that part of the country for electoral votes. I am impressed with the Pawlentys — he understands how to get things done–the First Lady has a record of her own. Impressive from middle class backgrounds. Visit their website.
Please everyone, comment on my message. Tonight I have hear FIVE times about former Bush supporters voting for Obama. For christ sake they had them on PNR. What does this mean? Has the DNC adopted the retarded Bush clan? Holy cow I feel so lost. I was just on yahoo answers and asked a question. This guy said that I was “wrong” about republicans and that they supported Obama over McCain and he got more thumbs up than a whore is a hen house? Whats up with that?
I don’t know either. My neighbors are diehard Republicans who voted for Bush twice. We have teased eachother for years over politics.
This year they are voting for Obama.
It must be some sort of guilt thing for being responsible for Bush and his havoc. They are in China, so it will be a while before I can pick their brains.
Not much help…but I have heard some similiar rumblings.
I know two former Bush republicans who are now strong Obama supporters. My take on their change is that they feel so betrayed by the republicans that it would take a republican who represents a total break from Bush policy to win them back. John McCain isn’t that.
These two live in Indiana, a traditional republican state. Both of them had rather low opinions of the Clintons, which I was never able to argue them out of. They got behind Obama while I was still pushing Hillary’s case.
I get the impression that a lot of Indiana voters are behind Barack Obama this election. It may be for the same reason. Indiana was pretty much a Bush state. Disillusionment began setting in about 2 years ago.
This is the biggest rumor around the internet.
We don’t believe anything you write ziggy.
*shrug* It’s a truthful observation. No one can make you believe it.
Indiana has been hit hard by the economic downturn. Lots of factory workers are disgruntled about overseas job losses, health insurance, and rising prices for all the basics. They’re also disillusioned about Iraq. Indiana hasn’t been a battleground state for a long time. It’s turning into one this election.
So sorry Zig. If Barry had picked Evan Bayh maybe Indiana would have gone Democrat, maybe. It’s a conservative state. Quayle’s state! You know, Bush Sr’s VP!! LOL! Indiana will go with McCain….despite your little antidotal about your “Republican friends” hahahahha!! Barry’s gonna lose Ziggy, get over it!!!!
ziggy doesn’t have any Republican friends.
And, as Oscar Wilde said:
“He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.”
That’s ziggy!
Yeah, well these people can kiss my tush.
They give us Bush and now they want to give us 0bama.
You might want to point out to them that they don’t have a very good track record. And they need to consider that before unleashing this locust on America yet again.
Zogby has McCain with over 81% republican support and around 20% democrat support. Barry has 74% Dem support and only 7% Republican support.
darryl — its not true — Obama has his paid trolls on every site. Just like the Fake Air Force One plane. He has to make it appear that everyone wants him to be President. McCain has 85% of Republicans — only 7% support Obama (lowest ever cross over vote) Obama has 72% of Democrats. Only 52% of Hillary supporters will vote for Obama 48% will not — McCain has 28% of Hillary supporters. Unless Obama cheats he cannot win without every Democrat supporting him and even then the electoral map favors the Republicans. Stay cool–there is going to be so much bull crap being tossed around by the Obama people.