Smearing Palin [Updated]
By Larry Johnson on August 30, 2008 at 10:01 PM in Barack Obama, Corruption, Current Affairs, Sarah Palin
Boy, that 44 year old Governor is scaring the hell out of the Democrats. How else to explain the wild and misleading rumors being put out against her? Let’s start with the nonsense that she’s going to be impeached for trying to get her brother-in-law, an Alaskan State Trooper fired. As Susan noted below the Mata Harley at Flopping Aces has the timeline of the events. (And Memeorandum has a bunch of links.)
Palin stands accused of firing trying to remove Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan allegedly as retaliation for Monegan’s foot dragging in firing Palin’s former brother-in-law, Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a nasty divorce and child custody battle with Palin’s sister. But the allegation does not hold up to the facts. Let’s start with the fact that the investigation of Wooten, which led to his dismissal suspension , started before Sara Palin was elected Governor. And this is not just some messy case of he said/she said. Turns out the Wooten was an out of control law enforcement officer. An investigation of his conduct concluded that he was guilty of the following:
Three incidents of Unbecoming Conduct
Three incidents of Personal Misconduct
One incident of Failure to Perform Duties Properly, Use of Government Property
Two incidents of Conformance to Laws
One incident Use of Alcohol
One incident Operation to Be Prudent and Lawful
These violations included using a taser on his ten-year old stepson, shooting a cow moose without a valid permit, and drinking beer while operating a marked Alaska State Trooper vehicle. (The dude sounds like the cop Seth Rogen played in Superbad.)
Some Dems as well as Palin’s Republican foes in Alaska want you to believe that poor officer Wooten was booted faces disciplinary action by the State Police because he was cheating on his wife, the Governor’s sister, and she is a vicious, vindictive bitch. But no one tells you that the guys pushing this story line–Walt Monegan and Andrew Halcro–have political axes to grind. Halcro, for example, is a Republican but ran as an independent against Palin. And Palin sought to remove Monegan for the following reasons:
- He was not making headway on achieving key goals such as resolving the trooper shortfall.
- He was not making satisfactory progress on resolving alcohol issues.
- He was not a team player in regards to budget issues.
The more I learn about Palin the more I like her. She may be far more conservative than me on social issues, but she is a person of courage and principle. Alaska is to Republicans what Louisiana is to Democrats–it is a cesspool of corruption. Palin took on the Republican establishment. She got a nice appointment on a public board and could have made some extra cash if she just kept her mouth shut and went along with the insider corruption. Instead she resigned in protest as the Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission charging fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest, with lack of ethics. Yeah, that’s a sure path to political success. Just ask Sibel Edmonds and other whistleblowers how much “love” they get from cronies accused of raiding the cookie jar.
But she did not stop there. Next she went after fellow Oil & Gas commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who also happened to be the state Republican Party’s chairman, for doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail. Goddamn her. Doesn’t she realize how this game of back scratching is supposed to be played? Speaking of audacity, she then filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who subsequently form the Oil and Gas Commission. Randy Ruedrich also paid a record $12,000 fine, which I suspect left him a bit grumpy.
Unlike George Bush, who sought out a war but kept his daughters at home, Sara Palin does not seek to use her position to protect her son. He’s in the Army on the way to Iraq. She says she is pro-life and, when informed that she is pregnant with a Down’s syndrome baby, she carries the boy to term.
These incidents, taken together, tell us something very important about this woman–she talks the talk and walks the walk. She does not ask other people to do what she will not do herself. I challenge anyone to cite just one anecdote about Barack Obama that exhibits this kind of character and courage. Just one.
This is the kind of person we want and need in public office. Hell, I want her as President. McCain can learn a thing or two from her.
Here’s a fun site offering a comparison between Palin and Obama:
I agree. Great pick McCain!
Palin strikes me as a person of convictions. She does not care what party you belong to, you had better serve the public as it is to be served.
What I admire most about Palin, and what I wished Hillary had done, was that she called out those in her party and called a spade a spade, damn the consequences. Americans know the truth when it is available… as much as I love Hillary, imo, she is too much of a party loyalist to go that extra mile…
IMO,do what you know is right… not what will please your party.
Indeed!
I’m thinking if she wasn’t in politics and had been a Democrat instead of a Republican she’d PUMA
She’s shown in all her actions that she’s country before party and isn’t that what all us regulars here at NQ strongly agree and believe in?
“be PUMA” sorry about that
Boozy Biden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
hey, are you a bitterpoliticz lurker? that is exactly what i called him. hahaha
it looks like the choice is between a guy without ethics, but who loosely shares progressive values (until money is waved under his nose), and an intelligent, highly ethical individual, who does not share progressive values.
Unlike Palin, Hillary has no way of proving what happened. Palin’s actions were for the good of the people of Alaska. If Hillary had done something, without proof, people would have called a self-serving sore loser.
There’s a difference.
But clearly, I respect Gov Palin for these actions.
And the media was against her and Bill. Just look at how they blew up at her over the RFK comment or Bill over the fairytale comment. The media would have found a way to spin it against her, just like the NH primary moment.
I like McCain and Palin. The thing that ticks me off is Hollywood actors who do not live in “reality”. They do not know what they are talking about. What do they care about the poor or middle class? They are all rich. McCain certainly has more experience and a true American.
McCain is the only nominee that has bothered to ask me for his vote…
Then, he asked Sarah to be his running mate and she asked me for her vote… WOW!
I have never heard from Obama or Biden, humbly asking me to be confident enough in them and their leadership in order to vote for them. No, they told me to ‘get over it”…
Ok, good luck with that…
I will remember those that were caring and kind enough to bother to ASK me of their vote…
hugs,
Leisa
leisa so much vetting for Gov. Palin but no vetting of Obama. If you ask him anything you’re a racist.
Well I see the rage is also about the Governor’s baby, it is now suppose to be her daughters. How can
there be so much ahte for someone they don’t know?
Oh, they wish! Kossacks’ heads are exploding right now. They were so confident Obama would convince those bitter snake handlers to vote for him. He is, after all, THE ONE. He talks about his sainted mother and milks the Jesus storyline. Then Sarah Palin turns out to be a real mother and a compassionate and faithful Christian.
Check out The One’s Pick:
BIDEN DRUNK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
Barry Barack America Soretoro Obama has a problemo.
ROTFLMBO! Did you catch Barky’s face? Smirking and smiling. Reminded me of Bill Clinton in Russia when Boris was flat out drunk. The difference is Bill could laugh ‘cuz Boris wasn’t trying to be number two leader of the free world. MEchelle looked horrifed. Poor Jill has seen it all before. WTF is wrong with Caroline Kennedy? Vetting didn’t include looking into alcohol consumption? Oh yeah, that’s right. Binge drinking politicans are normal for Kennedy.
I imagine the Steel workers years ago who endorsed Biden are hanging their heads in shame!
A deal = a drunken deal….. Yes he can…. And we can see! – -@_@– here’s to watching u
My goodness the REAL DEAL was passed over, thrown to the side of the road for 2 people, trying to hit the main stage drunk as skunks.
Obama did not even have the energy to stand on his own 2 feet he had to lean against the white picket fence.
This is the HOPE & CHANGE Obama wants to bring to the country. He cannot even pick a sober running mate.
I am sure Sarah Palin will be busy over the next few weeks making sure we all know exactly who is running on the other side of the stage.
Go John & Sarah…
NEW ZOGBY POLL ALREADY HAS McCAIN/PALIN AHEAD 47% TO
OBAMA/BIDEN’S 45%
AIN’T LIFE GRAND TODAY, ALL EXCEPT FOR THE POOR FOLKS DOWN ON THE GULF COAST.
I AM PRAYING FOR THEIR PROTECTION AND SAFETY.
PERHAPS WE CAN GET PASTOR JEREMIAH WRIGHT TO SAY “GOD DAM DON FOWLER AND MICHAEL MOORE FOR THEIR
HORRIBLE DISGUSTING COMMENTS”
Agree!! LOVE IT!! The idiots who gave us Obummer are running like chickens with their heads cut off becuase they KNOW they stole this form Hillary, and DEMS should have had the first woman in the executive branch, seriously..
I ordered my MAC PALIN signs for lawn and rally and bumperstickers
gave to Hillary, Mac and Palin and let them know I appreciate him breaking with what the talking heads wanted and GIVING US CHANGE not just talking it
GINAAAAAAAA! W00T!
do you have a linkie-poo dahlink?
Yes, GREAT PICK, McCain!
Larry, how can I not agree without insights here. Furthermore, Palin is not dogmatic conservative. She did use her veto to allow for same-sex partners’ benefits. And she blocked a law designed to make abortion illegal when she was mayor! Hell, she’s more liberal than Barry.
NO QUARTER WAS IN THE WASHINGTON POST’S ‘TRAIL’ EDITION AUG. 29, 2008, BY KRISSAH WILLIAMS THOMSPSON:
“HA! SAY THE ONLINE HILLARY SUPPORTERS” and Larry’s No Quarter is referred to as the “hub” of Clinton supporters…
Congratulations, fellow Pumas!
Sorry, Larry!
I meant to say “how can I not agree with your insights and opinions re Palin”!
Of course I agree. McCain listened to the voters and picked Palin.
Washington Post praises NO QUARTER and refers to it as the “hub of Hillary Clinton supporters”. In the TRAIL by Kristah Williams Thompson!
Congrats, No Quarter, for keeping us here and the Washington Post informed and ahead of the pack…
Pumas roar in the jungles of misogynist media….
Palin’s the One to watch!
Obama Sweetie, “get over it” and remember: Karma’s a Bitch…
Someone mentioned Palin, and ethics reform. This is disturbing to me. What we are really talking about here is:
doing away with individual freedom.
Each one of us has our own PERSONAL set of ethics. Why do we want her enforcing her own, on the WHOLE COUNTRY?!
The laws we have in place should protect us from each other, but should not tell us what to do with our own bodies. They should not tell us how to think, how to feel. That is why we are free. I am free to live as I want as long as it doesn’t get in the way of YOU living the way YOU want. “Ethics reform” is a threat to TAKE THAT AWAY!
We should not have an emotionally driven tyrant trying to convert the world to her own interpretation of Christianity.
Don’t let her gender, her face, or her superficial charm pull you in for all the wrong reasons. This woman is on a religious crusade. That is NOT FREEDOM!
She is what so many of us have been waiting for.
Personal attacks and false claims simply means they are all so very scared of her.
You know Larry, I explained your blog to a friend not as an anti-Obama web site but as an anti-corruption site. Although 99% of us are against Obama to be sure.
I was concerned when I first heard about the “messy divorce”, but OJ Simpson’s divorce was described as “messy” too, and we know how that turned out.
My husband is a retired Detective 1st grade, and I’m familiar with the culture. If half these accusations against him are true, he would’ve been fired from my husband’s command long before this.
No, its anti-Obama. Every blog posted on this site is ridiculously biased against Obama to the point that you have to make stuff up against him. Palin is facing real ethics and corruption charges. Yet she gets a pass. Everything you accuse Obama of is baseless and has absolutely no hard evidence to support it. You support a lie and run from the truth just like the neocons we’re trying to defeat. You PUMAs really need to grow up and soon.
Or what?
…or he’ll hold us accountable. LOL just like he held soeBOBO accountable.
An internet tough guy! He’ll make immature comments with his keyboard if you don’t fall in line….see?
He’s here because he’s afraid–his Obama dream is crumbling before his eyes and he has to take it out on someone. This forum is lightly moderated so he can get away with his lunacy here.
Or he will hold his breath and he will turn blue
“No, its anti-Obama”
Thank God everyone has not been Obamboozled. There is still hope.
Obama is a Bum –
Huckabee said all McCain needs is 4% of the Democratic Votes to win. He has way more than that now. No wonder they are shooting at everyone. They are terrified.
You wanna see terrified? Check out GOP strategist Mike Murphy on “Meet the Press” today, talking about Cinderella Palin.
Whoa nelly… he knows she can very well turn into an “anchor”… a “disaster.”
as could soeBOBO. LOL wonderful thing about the future. It holds so many options.
Ummm… 38 million Americans just watched him deliver a speech. Keep waiting for him to fuck up, Child. Hold your breath, why don’t you?
the funny thing is, giving a speech is all we’ve ever watched him do. I’m starting to think that’s all he can do. LOL even when he was playing b-ball they were giving him the open lane or the empty court.
I’m starting to think that’s all he can do.
Well, that’d put him one up on George Bush. It’s the past eight years of Bush/Cheney that have America thirsting for inspirational leadership.
So come on, WildChild… I made a fresh batch of Kool-Aid. Come sip its grapey goodness. It’ll make your lips purple!
Black Man,
Get your self some warm milk and cookies, play your Ludacris vid. and prepare for another day’s blogging for Your Leader.
Shut the hell up and go play with the rest of your fellow rats in the the political sewers of Chicago, boy!
Ask mama for your allowance next week. This week we had to give for Uncle Jeremiah’s Israel bonds Fund
No hard evidence … yet.
KHP,
I am unabashedly anti-Obama. I will remind people of three examples of bad or unethical conduct by Obama that have been in the mainstream media as evidence that people on NQ base their dislike of Obama on hard evidence.
I accuse Obama of saying he would filibuster FISA and then voting for FISA. (How many thousand of Obama supporters asked him not to switch to supporting FISA?)
I accuse Obama of claiming credit for working on legislation upon which he did little or no work. It is a matter of record that Emil Jones set out to inflate Obama’s record. (NYT)
I accuse Obama of being a sexist for saying about Hillary, “periodically, when she is feeling down, she tends to lash out as a way of making herself feel better. (youtube: input “Obama + periodically” [posted by Taylor Marsh])
Your claim is false and you have no credibility, KHP.
SM
Fourteen thousand Obama supporters.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/SenatorObama-PleaseVoteAgainstFISA
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!…. (many keep on laughing….)
Oh Kelvin… you must be one of the lucky ones to never see how some individuals may behave in certain ‘break up ” situations.
I guess you found it OK for people assigned to protect our citizens to use tazers on their step- children?
Well whatever your boss says, I challenge him to a word vs action battle…
Good luck to you and your boss-
So chaining children to trees and the like was not good enough for this guy?
A 10 year old child? I am sure glad I grew up in a time when tasers were nothing more than a weapon on star trek.
Yesterday someone on TPM said that the taser thing was a joke because the kid thought it was “fun” — ok, I guess that if kids want us to start chasing them around with knives it’ll be ok, since knives are soooo fun!
here comes Kelvin doo, doo, doo, doo:
here comes kelvin and I say; do, do, doo; do.do.do./doodoododo,dododo, dododdo OOh …..
nite nite!
defeat them without me. Cause when you guys decided to force feed Obama down our throats, you lost the rigfht to bash Republicans. You did everything you could to squash any complaints or to give us any say in our party. Sounds very neocon to me. So since we are looking at this on an even playing field a woman with actual executive experience, than all three of the men in this race looks like a much better choice. So take you affirmative action candidate and shove, him.
Bingo!
Democrats lost that right when they cheated the Primary.
As far as I’m concerned Democrats are on equal footing with the Republicans.
You must be dreaming. Why is it that investigation on BO’s corruption charges are LIES? How are you sure? If you dont investigate and research, how can you be certain?
Why dont u ask your god BO? He claims HE DOESNT KNOW anything racist his pastor wright preaches. But when he was cornered, he said ‘yes’ he knew about his pastor’s hate messages but then he gave a speech to cover behind ‘racisim’.
LIE? Whose lying? You want the truth? Why dont u ask your messiahe BO about his corruption charges : his tax documents for the last few years have been hidden deliberately (ask him to show you). You idiot.
Instead of half, I wish Obama were 100% typical white person, so I could express my opposition to him without being accused of harboring racist feelings.
Forsake Obama and the pain will stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4IFSGIUFU
To bad 4 McCain. He’s sinking fast. His last ditch chance before he turns 4 years older and able to run again has chosen Pain. Oopsss! I mean Palin. Quess the “l” in her name stands for loser.
I voted for pappa and baby Bush. I hate to admit it now. I’m soooo embarassed the mess this country’s in. Not that I’m an Obama lover—I just don’t want 4 more of Bushinomics. Remember, Palin won’t be in charge if McCain steals the election.
Look back in history when Clinton was President. This is when the economy started going down hill. So of course everyone thinks that its all Bushs’ fault. Then as soon as he took office “9/11″ happened. I don’t think the American people see the whole picture. If if had not been for Bush & the military the US would have had more terroists attacks. Why can’t people see this.
Kelvin,
No we do not need to grow up. We have a ticket now that we can support and it is McCain/Palin.
Zogby has them up 47% to Obama/Biden’s 45% already.
Finally we will have integrity and real hope and change in the Whitehouse with McCain and Sarah Palin.
Dumbass – did Obama get in a sweet land deal with Tony Rezko or not? did Obama get tax dollars for Rezkos failed public housing projects or not? did Rezko help Obama rise in Chicago politics or not?
If Palin did abuse her position, at least it was done to get a scumbag who apparently also beat her sister fired…
Kelvin,
Please, sweetie, get a glass of warm milk, pray to The Obama, and go rest. You got a tough day blogging for the anorexic resume-holder you’re employed by.
Somebody has to stick up for Democracy! You sure won’t find it in the ex Democratic Party these days. They’re too busy decorating the Chicago political sewers with confetti and re-creating the Partnenon in Denver.
And buy your Boss a new teleprompter, sweetie, and tell him we’ve enrolled him for his
Gender Sensitivity 101 course at the U of Chicago
November 5th! He’ll get over it, Sweetie! Honest!
Official link, please.
I’m very anti-Obama.
Anti-corruption
Obama = corruption
Therefore
Anti-Obama
Yep, works for me.
Excellent. Thanks for the info, Larry.
I feel the same way — the more I am learning about Palin the more that I like her, too.
That’s why they’re going berserk on her: they know that she can out-charisma Barry and she actually has a record to back up her words. So, they’re trying to pre-empt the program.
Not going to work.
Yeah, you are right on Paul!
I am sad that it is the republicans that upstage our party in the arena of being progressive and caring about women’s rights… Wow, I never saw that coming…
God bless America, let us keep our speech free!! Defeat Obama today… no more $$$, no more NBC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS… No more partisan pundits!!
I am sad that it is the republicans that upstage our party in the arena of being progressive and caring about women’s rights…
Except for women’s right to a safe and legal abortion, apparently.
… and right on cue, here’s
$7/HR TROLL “UndercoverBlackMan”
with his $0.02 worth.
And just why does he bother coming back here
dutifully for each of his shifts time after time with no visible means of logical support?
Only his shrink/probation officer would know.
So pathetic …
Abortions have been legal in this country for about 40 years, get a new line.
Cinderella Palin on abortion:
“I’ll do all I can to see every baby is created with a future and potential. The legislature should do all it can to protect human life.”
You really are a strange man, if you are a man. That quote troubles you? Sad.
UCBM,
Your posted sexist joke last night has been pasted on to others, clearly illustrating the type of sexism and hatred coming from Obama supporters. It shows that while Obama supporters see racism around every corner, they proudly endorse and encourage sexist and misogynist behavior.
Your continued attacks on Palin only compound this hypocrisy.
Keep your sexist comments coming so they can continue to be used as examples of the Obama camps’ sexism.
Cinderella’s only problem is… the chariot turns back into a pumpkin at midnight.
This time next year, John McCain will be doing Viagra commercials on TV.
And Sarah Plain and Tall will be hunting moose.
So that’s what you have to say about her? She’s pretty. So you try to demean her by calling her Cinderella? Classy undercoverman. That’s kinda like Barry calling that reporter “sweetie”. Just a typical passive aggressive dig at women in positions of power or prestige.. Can’t handle strong women can you undercover man? Pathetic.
I call her Cinderella because the only reason anybody’s talking about her right now is because a man put a glass slipper on her… not because of anything she’s done.
As for how “classy” it is to hang a demeaning nickname on Mrs. Palin… hey, I take my cues from you lot. You apparently think it’s fair play (not to mention the summit of wit) to call Sen. Obama Barky, BOBO, NObama, BaJoke Ofraudma, Obambi, Obastard, Obozo, Oblowme, Oblahblah, Obamboozle, obasshole, etc.
But if all of a sudden you’ve got a problem with belittling nicknames, how about I just call Mrs. Palin… Miss Congeniality?
(Boo-yah! That’s good satire…)
it’s ok We never believed you were any kind of change. LOL
Obozo, Obamboozle, obasshole I hadn’t heard those. Thx UBM, got any more?
my favorite is Oblahblah. I laugh everytime someone uses it
Yo Mama’s pretty good, too. I can see some new Yo Mama/Yo Bama jokes coming, Like:
Yo Bama (or Y B’s dick for the x-rated version) is so crooked, everytime he comes, he goes.
Patampam.
Obama bin Biden – whomever thought of that one gets a prize
You don’t know Alaska men. They generally hate women, to put it bluntly. I lived there for 3 years, and got called a Woman Libber about every 10 minutes. And was mighty damned proud to have that moniker, too!
So, I was FLOORED when a WOMAN was elected governor. And they LIKE her as governor, because she’s actually done what she said she would do. And what has your MAN done, besides being a pretty face in an empty suit?
Okay, I’ll bite.
So what has your beloved Senator Obama done, UCBM?
Just name one (1) real accomplishment, either in the Illinois legislature or the US Senate?
And (2) tell us about Emil Jones;
and (3,4,5 etc.) talk to me about the people in Tony Rezko’s slum housing (in St. Senator Obama’s district)) who went without heat in Chicago winters because Senator Obama allegedly “didn’t know” about them.
And don’t even think about calling me racist, because I admit up front that I am–just like you and every other human on the face of the earth.
Oh BTW I’m sexist too–also like every other human on the face of the earth.
So bring it, boyo. This is gonna be fun.
Why talk about Obama? Thanks to John McCain, this election is no longer about Barack Obama. The next two months are going to be focused on “Who is Sarah Palin?”… “Is she qualified to be vice president?”… “Why did McCain choose her?”… “Will she turn off independents and Democrats with her doctrinaire far-right positions?”… “How will she perform in the debate against Biden?”… “What does this choice say about McCain’s judgement?”
See what I mean? McCain — ridiculously — just threw away his aggressive offensive strategy, and will have to spend the next weeks on defense.
Mark these words: Soon after Labor Day, Obama will be up in the Gallup daily tracking poll by 13 to 15 points.
I’ll take that as a prayer it being Sunday and all.
I like your optimism. Who knows? Perhaps it may just happen.
But I highly doubt it. Obama has been struggling in the polls even before anyone could dream of Palin.
And the States that Obama was hoping to snatch from McCain are now in serious jeopardy. A gun totin’ Mama with balls of steel? Can you say Montana? Oregon? Washington State? Not to mention Idaho! Utah! Conservative states who are going to love a strong woman with their sense of values.
Wake up and smell the conciliatory speech that’s brewing.
You can see the utter excitement this woman is bringing to America. And the continued bashing, after doing so to Hillary, will backfire.
Simply brilliant.
I heard someone call his wife Michelle Odrama. I liked that too. I have also seen Homobama, Blowbama (thanks to another Larry, Larry Sinclair) Then there’s just his initials, BO, because, well, he stinks.
That’s Governor Palin. Try to at least make some attempt at hiding your sexism.
How about… Sarah Plain and Tall? Respectful enough?
And don’t you dare say SHIT to me about sexism… with all the RACISM in this cesspool!!!
My sane half thinks your funny. You draw attention to race by your handle.
Why is telling evryone you are a blackman the first thing you want to inform people of?
Why does “Uppity Woman” want everyone to know she’s a woman? Why does “WildChild” want everyone to know she’s 13 years old?
Undercover means on the down low…LOL
Homophobia now? Nice. Stay classy.
soeBOBO is on the down low. But we figured it was what attracted you to him.
The only person I know who says “Boo-yah” is a 12 year old.
Let’s leave your sex life out of this, Fred.
Boo-yah!!
Fred,
His true colors show everytime he uses that ridiculous and childish term. He’s not as ‘undercover’ as he thinks he is.
If he weren’t so rude, he may garner sympathy for his lack of vocabulary and intelligence.
Nobody gets me. :^(
Grasping for straws, aren’t you.
The Obamatrons are desperate. SO desperate.
The Republicans (I am one) want the abortion/choice decision to go to the States, where it belongs — to the people. We don’t want it decided by judges who are not elected and therefore, not accountable to the people.
This is the big problem many have with Roe v. Wade – it was decided by the Court, not by the people.
While I agree with you concerning the state control of this issue, the court ruling in Roe v Wade only struck down laws that it held to be unconstitutional, which the courts do everyday on a myriad number of cases. Not everything can be decided by the people and I certainly don’t think we want every federal law on the books to be handed back to the states for obvious reasons.
The DEM PARTY ate their own. Hillary CLinton was a qualified candidate whose LIFE’s WORK attest to her message + conviction in her running for president.
Upstage? Its the DEM party that upstaged a great candidate and along with it disenfreching FL+MI voters + 18million voters. Dont talk to us like we are usurping election. Look hard at your candidate and you’ll see he and his bosses (Pelosit, Dean) are the ones who upstaged democracy.
Hi Undercover Troll!
Obama thinks I should consult with my husband and pastor over any reproductive choice! Not a problem if I get along well with both, but what if my husband is an abusive asshole? Or I don’t have a husband? Or I got pregnant by my pastor?
I’m a woman voter and I am more than my uterus. Furthermore, I am done having my kids. Let your Obama girl fluffers fight for their right to abortion.
You don’t understand how our government works, do you? Awwwwwwwwwww.
Go back to school. Find out who makes laws. Hint–it’s not the Executive Branch.
When you’ve got that sorted out, study up on how a Supreme Court Justice makes it to the bench.
Pay particular attention to the ADVISE AND CONSENT role of the Senate.
Oh, and put away that dog-eared abortion card. You wave it around like you know what you’re doing, but all that’s happening is that you are showing yourself to be a stupid ass who doesn’t know anything about how your own country’s government works!
Too bad you did not keep up with how President Clinton (& Jimmy Carter) were the original ones who screwed up the economy!!! It was the democrats, not the Republicans!
paul — I think they know they are losing more women everyday and instead of humility they show hostility to those who walk away.
Try this clip for charisma where Sara Palin laughs when a talk radio announcer calls one of her political rivals “a b**** and a cancer”. The woman referred to is a cancer survivor.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sara+palin+bitch+cancer&hl=en&emb=0#
The Anchorage Daily news reported this on January 25th, 2008 http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/293639.html
Camp Obama must be operating at a level 10 on the anxiety scale. They really don’t know how to deal with Gov. Palin because she is everything they are not. She even has more political experience than young Barry. LOL. I guess they will try to smear her because people are really taking to her.
I guess they will try to smear her because people are really taking to her.
Ah. That’s how the smear game works, huh?
That explains the “whitey tape.”
And Larry Sinclair.
And the birth certificate non-issue.
I got no anxiety about Cinderella Palin. It’s a bizarre choice that gives America a perfect sense of how John McCain makes important decisions.
“Cinderella” Palin? Another sexist comment. Are you going to start making racist comments about white women also?
What… she can talk about the “glass ceiling” but I can’t talk about the “glass slipper” John McCain just glided her foot into?
Dreams can come true, ladies!
Ladies and Gentlemen in the matter of sexism and misogyny still alive and kicking in our society I give you……Exhibit “A”
LOL!
Or like how Obama thinks he has the cajones to meet with Putin…
but he doesnt have the guts to meet with O’Reilly.
Oh well, like he says, when push comes to shove her will side with the Muslims!
Your a racist and sexist person so you will love how Obama discriminated against Hispanic and Asian populations in Chicago:
Obama states he believes in social equality but then when the 2000 census revealed dramatic growth in Chicago’s Hispanic and Asian populations alongside a decline in the number of African Americans, the Illinois black caucus was alarmed at the prospect that the number of blacks in the Illinois General Assembly might decline. At that point, Obama stepped to the forefront of the effort to preserve as many black seats as possible.
The Chicago Defender quotes Obama as saying that,
“while everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking African-American seats.”
Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogynist, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women
Pass It On!
Why hasn’t anyone jumped on that? Seems like it must be a violation of some civil rights law to manipulate legislature on basis of race.
Yes, it does. Could anyone provide a link to information on this?
“The Chicago Defender quotes Obama as saying that,
“while everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking African-American seats.”
Thank you for this quote. I will be passing it along to my latino and asian friends.
I suppose implying her candidacy is a “fairy tale.” This is all to be expected. As far as I’m concerned, the election is won now for the GOP. Sarah Palin knew what to expect, and the Republicans don’t gamble, they take calculated risks. She is up to the task. The Dems are slime. Nothing these assholes sy can keep me from voting and praying for McCain / Palin winning in November.
remember when the soeBOBOweenies went batshit insane after big dawg mentioned soeBOBO’s position on Iraq was a fairy tale?
AMEN to that!!
Once again I reinterate. What month is this. I do belive the man said it would be october suprise. I was born in october, this is not october if it were I would have been 31 two days ago. Alas no cake, no ice cream no birth day gifts, what gives? Maybe it’s not october! Go try and find obama’s real birth certificate or something.
undercover — How do you feel about the arrogance of a man who had served only 143 days in the Senate before deciding to run for Presidency, having basically no experience but claiming that he has superior judgement–don’t you find that a bit bazarre. The rest of us do.
At first, I thought Obama was running eight years too early. I thought he needed seasoning.
Now I realize… we’re dealing with “The Natural.”
It would’ve been like telling Kobe Bryant, “You need to play college ball for four years before going to the NBA.” Every once in a while, a player can go from high school to the pros… and dominate.
Yes, his resume is thin. But nobody gets hired on resume alone. There’s the all-important job interview, where you take a person’s measure with your own eyes. Barack Obama has been on a job interview for the past 19 months… and evidently millions of people have faith in his intelligence and judgement.
And just as many don’t.
I took his measure and found him wanting.
I judged him not just by his words but by his deeds. I have evaluated him in his political context. I have rejected him.
Agreed. I live in Chicago and I wish that for once he would take on the party hacks and call them to task for the cronyism and nepotism.
If he can’t take on Todd Stroger and Daley how are supposed to trust him to tackle corruption on a national level?
obambi barley limped across the finish line. The more people know about him the less they like him.
McCain/Palin 08
Obambi didn’t limp across the finish line – he was carried across it on the shoulders of Dean, Pelosi and Kennedy. The Dems set out to accomplish 2 things in this election.
1) They want so bad to be known as the party of inclusion. They know that the US is fast becoming a non-white majority and they want those future votes. And what did they accomplish? They rammed MORE of the same boring, elitist, out of touch, All Male Club alumni up our butts. AGAIN. Same old song and dance. Only difference, one is brown. These people never learn. But this time it backfired, big time, as they alienated their biggest voting bloc – women.
2) The Clinton jealousy among the Washington establishment is very broad. They’ve never liked them – called them “hicks” when they arrived in ‘92. Not only that, they are terrified of the Clinton payback. The ones that jumped on the Impeachment band wagon knew their days were numbered if Hillary won. They knew that she was going to take her “witches broom” and sweep out the barn. The harassment she and Bill have endured among their own party is unparallel.
I would give my monthly salary to see a debate between Bill Clinton and Baracula. Can you see that? Barky would be running with his tail tucked between his legs to his “baby’s mama.” Bill would eat him a new one, just like he did yesterday at Stephanie’s funeral service. Mr. Great Orator looked like a choir boy next to the Maestro. Bill had every AA in the audience on their feet cheering – you know, the ones that turned their backs on the “first AA President?”
So, NEVER, NEVER! count the Clinton’s out. They are the most astute, natural politicians of our lifetime. I applaud John McCain’s decision to add Palin to the ticket. Brilliant move. The Dems played right into Mac’s hands on that one. And this LIFE-LONG, ex-LOYAL DEMOCRAT will vote for them, based on her sex (how about that race baiters?) Payback IS a bitch.
And then Hillary will be back in four years – she didn’t lose the GE – but he will. So she gets another shot. Because, as we all know, the Dems are unforgiving. Barky loses the GE, he’s OUT. Old news. And enter the era of “the ALL GIRL’S Club.”
Four yeas can’t go by fast enough for me.
WIN WITHOUT ME, BOYS.
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Amen………….great post
Thanks UBM, I’ve been thinking about changing my career path, so next time I have an interview I’ll just tell the hiring manager that even though I don’t have the relevant experience, I’ve really been searching for a job for a while, so that should cover it.
Well… if you have a reputation as one of the brightest persons to ever attend Harvard Law School, you might can pull it off.
If you have affirmative action and quota’s on your side…LOL….
^ Thank you. Here’s the RACISM I was talking about. Shameless. So I don’t wanna here SHIT about sexism… especially after McCain just put Miss Congeniality on his ticket because she’s a woman.
You dizzy idiots need to wake the fuck up.
so at least were clear that affirmative action is racist. This is turning out to be a good day.
Oh, and Obarky’s pick of Biden wasn’t because he is an old white man just so he could shore up his horrendous numbers with bitter old white folks?
Your selective indignation, toodles, is breathtaking in its sheer gall and tiresome to those of us having a functioning brain.
Why should I be indignant about Obama picking someone who can do the job??
Cinderella Palin isn’t even qualified to be a candidate for vice president on Day One; Team McCain is having to give her crash courses on national and international affairs.
And I simply cannot wait to see how Leno, Letterman, Conan, Jimmy Kimmel, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, etc., treat Miss Congeniality in the coming weeks.
Matter fact, Bill Maher has already weighed in:
“This isn’t a presidential ticket, this is a sitcom: Wilford Brimley and Megan Mulalley, ‘The Maverick and the MILF!’”
Tee-hee…
Overtly obvious antithesis to MLK aka Undercover Black Man,
You’ve proven yourself racist and sexist. On top of that, you condone dispicable behavior. With your judgment and character,
why would you think your opinion means anything to anyone?
Wrong again. Don’t try to weasel out–justown your crap. You said:
To which I replied:
Since you won’t own your own crap, I will tell you that your candidate did indeed pick Biden because he is tanking with older white voters so I don’t want to hear any more of your hogwash about McCain and his “reason” for selecting her.
One of my coolest jobs was tutoring math deficient freshman football players so they could qualify to play–strangely, they were all “naturals,” which was why the University had admitted them with conditions. The ones who wanted to play and keep their scholarships studied and worked with others. The ones who went with the “I’m a natural so I don’t have to listen” theme didn’t. (Not to sound racist or anything, but they were affirmative action students from east LA–draw your own conclusions) The big star “natural” who was going to win on “heart” (i.e. going out and doing egocentric spectacular plays) not only managed to get himself injured and on the bench in only a month, he is now doing 10-20 on aggravated assault (rape) and assault with a deadly weapon.
You talk about Obama like he’s an athletic phenomenon, because you think it’s a metaphor that people will easily swallow. Youth is an advantage when your body is your livelihood. There is no substitute for experience in politics.
And anyway, Sarah Palin is a better basketball player than Obama. She earned her nickname Sarah Barracuda as captain of her state championship basketball team. She still runs marathons and is an outdoorswoman who enjoys hunting and fishing.
Though Obama supporters sneer at her being mayor of a town of 9,000, that was her job for 10 years. Obama has never stayed at any job that long, has no experience running anything and goes on and on about being a community organizer with nothing to show for it.
Sarah Palin has a solid ethics record, and that is how she made her career. She beat men over the heads with her shoes!
There is no substitute for experience in politics.
So how come you’re not troubled by the notion of Sarah Palin being thrust into the White House?
Could anything she have learned as a small-town mayor be applicable to governing the United States of America?
There are thousands upon thousands of small towns in America. Are all of those small-town mayors now credentialed to be Commander-in-Chief?
But don’t let me disrupt your fairy tale, Hope. Dreams do come true! Cinderella Goes to Washington!
UCBM
You look at this GE season as a ball game?
Right we can go with that, there is a saying & it is know in sport your only at the top for a while…. run with it while you can.
Obama has had his time at the top and is on his way down
McCain & Palin can take it from here. Hold on UCBM enjoy the ride, Nov 4th It will be a home run right to the White House for John Mccain and VP Palin..
President McCain is looking good don’t you think?
The last home run will be fun, it will be the best and it will save the COUNTRY!! before party BEFORE THE ONE….. no one should ever feel they are bigger than the people they would like to lead..
President McCain is looking good don’t you think?
He’s looking like “Uncle Joe” in Petticoat Junction whenever he stands next to America’s Hottest Governor.
Bwahahahahaaa!
I can smell the desperation in your post undercover man.
That’s your upper lip.
Or the white powder on Obama’s nostrils
Talk about “desperation.” This place has reeked of it since Obama put the Hillary campaign out of its misery.
You’ll have to answer to God for your lies.
soeBOBO went back on his word and voted for george bush’s telecom immunity package. It didn’t even need his vote to pass.
I agree with you. What experience does he have?
Thank you for bringing up Larry Sinclair! That was another great thing that happened this week. Remember when Obama thugs called in a favor to Biden’s son who’s the Attorney General of Delaware to put out an arrest warrant for Larry Sinclair during his press conference at the NPC in Washington DC???? That was during the DNC meeting about seating FL and MI. Mmmm? Remember that? Remember how Larry was held without being told what the charges were and refused his medicine and held a couple of days in Delaware? Remember how he and his Lawyer were given the run around for the last two months never allowed to get discovery on why he was arrested in the first place? WELL! Surprise, Surprise! The charges have been dropped due to lack of evidence. When you say? Why, conveniently on the LAST DAY OF THE DNC CONVENTION. What is Barack Obama and Joe Biden hiding if Larry is Lying? Why not just prove you were somewhere else at the time? Why not just prove you were no were near that limo? Why not just disprove it on your SMEARS sight? Maybe you are afraid if you talk about it reporters will start demanding to see those phone records the Chicago Police have. Maybe, just maybe someone will want to interview the family of that dead gay choir master of Obamas church and ask what they suspect happened.
You ask me, the cover up and false arrest directly after a press conference gives a cloud of suspicion over this story. At this point, Larry Sinclair has more credibility than
OblowmeObama.Well, we saw in Denver what happens if even the MEDIA tries to investigate Obama’s connections. That ABC photographer was arrested….shoved into the street, manhandled and arrested. For standing on a public sidewalk photographing Barry’s wealthy patrons.
And ABC didn’t show it on air!!! I watched for it, must have missed it or something. It’s not like they didn’t have the footage.
Look for the press conference on youtube. The entire thing is there.
That’s what I mean. It’s online, but ABC didn’t air it on TV!!
UBM,
no matter how much you say you have no anxiety about the pick, the more obvious it becomes that you do. A confident person would not have to constantly defend themselves, but instead show their confidence through facts and solid argument, which would in turn cause people to give your point of view more merit.
So, convince us – what has Obama done to deserve our vote? What has Obama done to fight corruption in his home state? What has Obama done.. period?
He really hasn’t done much, has he? Just admit the truth. Remember, the truth will set you free. Be free.
Yes You Can!
DianeJ | 2008-08-30 22:12:56
Camp Obama must be operating at a level 10 on the anxiety scale.
You should have seen Arsenio Hall on Leno Fri. night. He was flippin’ out! Nervous adrenalin spewing out of every pore! Jay couldn’t even calm him down. Priceless! The the Obots are freaking out.
JM stole BOs thunder and killed his buzz! Reminded me of Colbert on Bush at the White House Correspondents Dinner. Gotta R E S P E C T McCain for that alone!
She’s a very sunny and positive person, too–I guess you could call her HOPEful.
And what she really is, too, is “CHANGE”–not bullshit change, REAL change. She goes after crooks and gougers. She really is a reformer.
Basically, she does their “themes” better than they do–and she doesn’t make a big deal about it, either.
That’s why they’re pissed.
Just saw on Geraldo’s show on Fox only 20-30% of the levees have been repaired in New Orleans to withstand Cat 3 storm surges. They are now preparing for Katrina, part deux.
God help the people of New Orleans. G.D. the Bush Administration for not correcting this situation after THREE f’in years!
I hate to say it but the democratic congress could have appropriated the money for the repairs for almost two years.
Bush is the POTUS. He should have been providing leadership instead of getting us bogged down in 2 wars and running our ecomony into the ground.
Democrats have been trying to get more funding for NO for three years, but the Republican minority has been threatening filibuster. Just ask Mary Landrieux.
WildChild, are you really a democrat?
Congress spends the money. Now if they had appropriated the money to he rebuild and Bush just sat there, you’d have a legitimate argument to make. But instead, all you have is wild flailing as the room goes dark around you.
Now I know you’re not a democrat. Thanks for confirming.
LOL the problem with that particular fantasy is you don’t seem to know much
Please, there’s plenty of blame to go around. Bush has the lowest approval rating, but so does Pelosi and the gang. They are all irresponsible and self serving.
Party identification doesn’t do a thing for those facing this storm.
She is correct, Frankie. The administration can’t spend a dime unless Congress earmarks the funds. That doesn’t make her Republican or Democrat–just correct.
You need to learn the meaning of words.
And here’s a phrase you may have heard a lot lately, too: shut up.
I’m not a Democrat and would be embarrassed if I were.
Yeah, I ditched that Losers Club.
Obama voted for the “bridge to nowhere” and voted against sending money to New Orleans after the hurricane. I would love to see Sarah Palin ask him to cry some Katrina tears for her.
None of them are- nor have they ever been. Remnants of Limbaughs “Operation Chaos”. Meaningless now. Hey – did you hear how Rush referred to Palin as a “babe”. What would Hillary say?
Gee…you don’t understand how laws are made, or funds are disbursed (go see Charlie Rangel for your lesson on that, mmmmkay?) and, because you are rather shamefully ignorant, you make spurious accusations about the affiliations of others?
Typical Francis! Never lets facts get in the way of a good foot-stomping whine! Those tears of yours are likely quite bitter, I’m guessing.
I’ll confirm I’m not a Democrat this fall when I vote Republican and laugh when Obama loses. If the Democratic party wants my vote, they can kiss my ass!
The Republicans blocked much of the $ to Louisiana until a Republican got in the Governor’s Office. Then the money started to flow. Right now Louisiana is flush with $. With Louisiana’s track record, that may not have been a bad move.
ding ding ding!!!
correct answer, Joy
cute little Bobbi Jindal,
Repub Wonder Boy sits in the Gov.Seat now, so watch the dough flow.
Just like Miss. with fatass Haley Barbour.
wildchild — this Democratic Congress has done nothing.
Anyone who is still a Democrat after what has gone down this year needs to have their head examined.
obama is a bum — I hear you — switched in June. I find them totally embarrassing.
Me too!
Me, too. Fl & especially MI was the final straw.
RIGHT. As if BUSH and CHENEY and their fraud and warmongering makes Rethuglicans proud?
Here is the difference. We didn’t sit around and blindly support Obama the way rethugs let Bush start wars against people completely uninvolved with 9/11, run our country into the ground and have no national guard available to save New Orleans from drowning.
Of course we’re going to rebuild and reform our party. You need your head examined if you think Republicans are the answer!
Maybe McCain and Palin can set a good example for reform and that would be great. But I don’t even consider Obama a Dem. He’s an opportunist. No moral center at all.
The Dems will have no choice, they will have to reform. Nancy takes impeachment off the table and we are supposed blindly support her and Oblowme?
Republicans are not the answer, but thx to the DNC, they are the better choice.
Hillary ‘12
Francis, Take some responsibility. It is the responsility you lack.
“What have you done for me lately” won’t cut it.
OK, Francis and WildChild you are both right. If Bush failed to act congress should have stepped up.
Bush turned down all sort of FREE HELP offered from all over the world.
Dutch engineers offered to help. I should think they know how to build a damned levy since their entire country is below sea level.
Bush’s entire record has been giving no-bid contracts to corrupt cronies in Texas.
I lived in Holland. The ENTIRE country is NOT below sea level, but the Vondel Park in Amsterdam IS the world’s highest below sea level.
It is really sad but it takes more than 3 years to fix what happened in New Orleans. And trust me, I am NOT defending Bush. I believe the Army Corp of Engineers was gonna be working on the levees, etc. ’til 2011. Now everything may go back to square 1 or worse. I really hope things looked better for New Orleans than they do right now. I’m in FL and we are watching the other storm closely.
There’s a strong ridge to the west of this hurricane, which will hopefully hold. Unfortunately, if you’re in FL, that’s not good news for you. If the ridge dissipates, then New Orleans has a problem.
Another problem with the levees in New Orleans are the levees upriver. After ‘93, they were supposed to let the river revert back to its natural course. That was 1993.
Today–they’ve built the levees up again.
Also, where’d the Democrats go on Iraq?! This congress was elected on that. And what’d they do? Sent “stern” letters to Bush! One of the ways that Nixon was finally convinced to get the hell out of Viet Nam was when Congress quit funding the war. And since ‘06? Stern letters.
I visited various areas of Hurricane Katrina which covered hundreds of square miles of destruction. New Orleans was not the worst location hit but it was where the news focused. I blame Nagin for not properly evacuating New Orleans. Nagin is an incompetent fool yet those idiots still re-elected him.
this is what happens when you select a man just by the color of his skin…..WAKE UP AMERICA….
After this election year, nothing suprises me. We are really some stupid people. I mean really. After eight years of gross incompetence how to do we fix our problem. A black man with no experience. Yipeee.
kgirl — well said–yeah let the guy with no experience who says he has superior judgement fix the problems. Its a recipe for disaster. Thats why so many of us have not drunk the koolaid.
The dirt on Palin is actually real, not some made-up crap on anti-Obama websites. It sounds to me like you PUMAs are the ones who are getting nervous. My guy’s still up in the polls. The old geezer and the beauty queen, not so much.
Stop it!!
Just ignore the boring troll…he’s lying and only wants to provoke you. Ignoring him will shut him down.
Great defense.
luckily the dirt is from her last moose hunt
Kelvin listen to the news properly..Palin has had nothing to do with this,,,it was her husband that was trying to get him fired..
If you watched the Fox network you’d be listeing to the truth….
Palin has done nothing wrong…So you will have to dream something else up…Did she ever get charged for wrong doing>>>NO
The investigation has not been completed. For you to tell me that Faux News reports the truth tells me all I need to know about you.
And you get yours from Oblahblah.com, which tells me all I need to know about you.
Geez look at all the fuss over this and we have a man that is nominated to run for President of this country and half of you cant tell where the hell he was born far less prove it yet.
Half don’t know if he is a Muslim or not, half of you don’t have any idea what he did to get the money from Rezko to buy his mansion,
But yet you all are all pissy faced over a woman that may have tried to get her brother in law fired, I mean come on now, is that really a dam issue?
My great issue is if we are putting a dam Muslim as POTUS and some sure as hell did not and still do not want to investigate that, but now a woman and her brother in law is a major issue and she should be run out of town and politics just for that.
SJ — We don’t even know what Obama’s real name is. How about the media getting excited about that? Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama whatever. Does he hold citizenship in more then one country? Why has Hamas given him their support? Why do all his pals seem to hate this country and its people?
We do know that Sarah Palin is an American born in this country and that both her parents are American. As Governor she has an 80% approval rating. Everybody is worried about Sarah but nobody seems to care that the country could be left in the hands or Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama whatever.
you tell us the dirt is real but then tell us the investigation is not yet completed. With you here who needs fox news?
Let me get this straight, Kevin. You say the investigation isn’t complete yet you know Sarah Palin is guilty of something.
and Kelvin gets his news from MSNBO. BTW, here is a response to that “breaking news” question MSNBO posted about Palin and how many houses she adds to the ticket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQ-v1oOZvI
Fox News is now the only credible news organization. Thanks to Obama news organizations have now become corrupt.
I don’t watch Fox, beginning to not want to watch anything. The night of Obama’s speech I thought we were going to have to throw a coat over the MSNBC guys or get them a motel room with the way they were behaving about Obama.
Palin. Ok, yes there is an investigation. All this started BEFORE she was a gov. One conversation she had was regarding security after she became gov because the trooper had verbalized death threats on her Dad.
She was within her full authority to fire the top cop. His attempt at a complaint/appeal on that issue didn’t fly because of the fact she could fire all of them with or without cause.
I mean really there are some in Alaska that want an investigation because she is attractive. Can you say ‘good old boy’? How ’bout dirty politics?
I am not a republican but I first met Sarah when she was on the city councilin Wasilla a long time ago. She returned to work in two or three days after delivering her daughter that time. I live in Wasilla. I am very impressed and proud of her.
I was for Hillary. I don’t believe in Obama.
I am almost afraid to vote for anyone. What an election.
Alasscan,
I lived at Ft. Wainwright long before Ms. Palin did anything in politics (mid-’80’s), but I’m a native Idahoan, and she was born in Sand Point (way up north in Idaho, near the Canadian border, just FYI). Not that that has anything to do with anything, just had to say it!
Old boy network doesn’t even begin to describe the good ol’ timers I had to work with there! I was AMAZED and very impressed she got elected. And I’m pretty sure some of those same boys I knew voted against her, but evidently there weren’t enough of them.
She and I could go toe-to-toe on some of the social issues, but that’s been a Republican meat issue. It ticks me off when Democrats try to do it, so I can vote for a Republican–just this once, I hope. At least, with her and McCain, I have oh-so-much more confidence that they walk the walk. I know Barky doesn’t.
From what I read, Palin never tried to get the Public Safety Director to fire her ex brother-in-law. Some of Palin’s aides and her husband did.
In true Republican fashion, she out sourced the job to her aides and husband. Now if her ex brother-in-law was that big of an ass, she should have done it herself.
Kind of like barky outsourcing the jobs of you brownshirts to harass people and spread smears on the internet.
Beverly, I’m tired of hearing how all scared the Hillary voters were of those mean ole supporters of the Beautiful O.
The Clinton campaigns have never been timid. I don’t wear a brown shirt and I voted for Hillary in my state’s primary and caucus.
Not one person intimidated or threatened me. My caucus meeting was well attended and well run. Hillary lost. If McCain’s your choice great but this whine of brown shirts is sour grapes or Republican propaganda.
it’s not sour grapes or republican propaganda. We experienced it first hand at huffy poo and kos. You soeBOBOweenies have a serious problem with basic American freedoms.
Wild Kid, what are you talking about? I’m talking about voting in my state’s primary and caucus not some web site.
I was talking about the same thing Beverly was talking about. Why, what were you talking about?
Wild Kid, V O T I N G
Whenever that word is mentioned the chorus starts about how all the Clinton voters were harassed.
Per Beverly this was outsourced to us brown shirts. I guess along with posting harassing comments on the web.
hmmmmmmmm, it’s really too bad beverly didn’t mention voting. Perhaps a little Freudian slip on your part there eh brownshirt?
Wild Kid, You are right, this blog has nothing to do with elections and voting. It’s all about gardening. How’s your elephant ears doing this year?
I didn’t comment on what the blog had to do with. So I can’t be right or wrong on that topic. LOL much like Beverly never mentioned voting.
So the mean ole people at Kos and Huffington harassed you. Well I’m glad you made your way over here.
Joy,
Weren’t you going to purchase a dictionary or actually start attending an accredited educational institution?
From your response to WildChild it sounds like you are interested in domestic services. No wonder you support Obama. He does believe women are there to serve men.
LMAO harassment I can deal with. It’s being scrubbed and baned purely for my political view point that prompted me to say You soeBOBOweenies have a serious problem with basic American freedoms.
LOL I am enjoying your flailing though. You soBOBOwenies haven’t changed much since the days of kos and huff poo.
Blue Kitty, I have a dictionary and a degree and I don’t go into hysterics when my candidate doesn’t win.
No you just bother people on blogs all day pretending he did win.
Wild Kid, I think I’ve looked at Kos twice and Huffington Post about 5 times. So no bot here. I’ve never posted to either blog. Guess you were just too radical for them.
protesting dude, I voted for Hillary in my state’s primary and caucus. So unless you live in Texas, I voted for Hillary more times than you did.
LOL sure, whatever you say brownshirt. I’m not to blame for the un-American actions of you soeBOBOweenies. I took an oath once to protect and defend our wonderful constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. When you boneheads went against the first amendment in your rapturous exaltation of Barry soeBOBO, you lost me forever. But keep believing this is just sour grapes. It’ll do you in in the end and save me the trouble.
Wild Kid, in 1973 I took the same oath as a federal employee and I could not engage in partisan politics until I retired from federal service. Now that I’m retired I’m doing just that.
I have no idea what happened to you at Kos and Huffington. I voted for Hillary but she didn’t get the nomination. I got over it.
Now if only I could believe what you say. You see from where I’m sitting there’s something about you twisting everyones name here that leads me to believe you aren’t what you say you are. But then it fits with your MO. You twisted what Beverly said. You twisted what I said…
There’s just this basic dishonesty in you that is unmistakable.
Wild Kid, I called Beverly by her name. It’s posters who use cutsey names I rag on.
You call me a brown shirt, a reference to Natzi Germany and Hitler yet I’ve not insulted you and you call me dishonest.
but you are dishonest (by the way that’s typical brownshirt behavior) and I summed it up when I said I didn’t comment on what the blog had to do with. So I can’t be right or wrong on that topic. LOL much like Beverly never mentioned voting.
You twisted what we said just like you twist names. It’s just part of your inherent dishonesty brownshirt. But then I guess you have to start off with that quality to be a brownshirt.
Wild Kid, I hope you get the help you need.
yup, the final resting place of the bonehead argument. Congratulations, you’ll make a wonderful sheep for Barry
Because of your McCain’s brown shirts and Palin’s Buchanan brigades the Beautiful O’s getting my vote. You convinced me of it you persuasive devil you.
Now run along Whiz Kid and stay away from the mean ole Kos and Huff blogs. They can be dangerous for fragile little Whiz Kids.
ROFLMAO Oh please, LOL you came here supporting Barry and chastising anyone who disagreed with you. LMAO we didn’t have to convince you. You came pre-convinced. And now you’re hallucinating brigades around Pat Buchanan HA Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha AH aH AH AH aH aH aHH a Ha Ha HHa a Hah a
this is going to be a fun autumn
No oh wise Whizz it was you and you alone who made me realize what 4 more years of Republicans whould be like. Go knock yourself out for the Repugs again.
cool .. i didn’t know it was I that had the power to cause hallucination’s in you. LOL you learn something new everyday
Whizzy said you learn something new everyday. Not so much in your case.
see, there you go hallucinating again. LOL but I don’t think I can take credit for that one. You’re definitely on auto pilot now.
Joy: Republicans stand for individualism… Brownshirts are teh street thugs for collectivists.. you know.. your guy.
Vince, Republicans stand for individualism. Now that’s funny.
Well he must have been pretty good at it, he beat the Clinton Machine. November will tell if he can get all his newly registered voters to the polls to vote to beat Rove Jr. and his squeaky clean crew.
protesting dude, I voted for Hillary in my state’s primary and caucus. So unless you live in Texas, I voted for Hillary more times than you did.
I think NEW YORKERS have you beat, twice for Senator, and once in the Primary. We dont need a two step.
We all know how big of an ass Obama is and who is trying to eject him? Certainly no Democrats. Ayers, Wright, Phleger, Rezko, etc., it is no wonder Obama does not want his real life story told.
I don’t give a damn if she frog-marched him out of the police station. The dirt on Obama is worse. The dirt on Biden is worse. Obama voted against FISA, so he could spy on his enemies like Bush and Nixon if he becomes POTUS. That is corruption that bothers me. Not firing a man with a long list of violations who happens to have abused your family.
Uhh, Pewl, it wasn’t her husband who was trying to get him fired. You need to read the whole Flopping Aces article. It was Frank Bailey the Boards and Commissions Director that was questioning Monegan as to why the state trooper hadn’t been fired. The Flopping Aces article really explains it in detail.
Neither of the Palins had anything to do with it. Also this pressure that was supposedly put on the fired guy was done two years ago and a complaint was never filed by him until he was fired. The one who is making sure the issue is pursued is the guy who LOST to Sarah Palin in the Gubernatorial election.
Now that’s the definition of sour grapes.
I love the Flopping Aces blog. Good rational commentary.
Her husband is referred to as the “shadow governor”. (another reason to be worried) Whether he did it…or she did it…it was her responsibility. TRUMAN: the buck stops here.
BTW: why would anybody in her office give a rat’s @ss about a state trooper they don’t even know? Use you minds. Do you hate O so much that you are willing to suspend your belief in reality?
This is being investigated/pursued by the Alaskan State legislation…..are they making all this up? It is beyond me why McCain would choose someone currently under investigation. It’s insane. What a poor choice.
A political rival, who lost to her in 2006, is making the allegations. I have always been skeptical when charges are made in such a manner.
And Michelle isn’t an influence? They’ve both said she is. Why, she controls her husband and home, according to HER. And what would her home be if (God forbid) Barky won?
Her husband is referred to as the First Dude. If you’re a doctor, you’re surely not an OBGYN. Your disdain for women is too obvious.
Wang dang doodle thinks Sarah’s husband, Operations Manager of an Oil rig, active member of the Steelworkers Union, Commercial Fisherman and world class snowmobile racer is a “shadow governor” doing her job for her. Sexist pig!
Kelvin you just dont get it… So why are you hear exactly..
Hey Kevin since you want to do what is right why don’t you investigate Biden son Hunter, you all seem to be so anxious to get dirt on Palin and Biden son Hunter is in a bigger mess.
How come Obama is going all over the place with Biden and not worried about that, how come the press does not think this is major news, Biden is running for VP is he not, and am 100% sure if Hillary daughter was in any wrong dealings with money that would of been major news.
So lets hear some info on Hunter it should be interesting
I come here to mock you moribund PUMAs. Why are you here?
So you aren’t here for discussion.
That explains why you say the same crap every day and ask for proof then conveniently forget it on the next thread.
So you come here to taunt people?
To see your flim flam candidate destroyed this fall. And we will win.
If you’re so concerned about dirt, why don’t you clean up around Oblahblah’s house of cards. Oh, I forgot–it’s an impossible task for an intellectually and physically lazy bot.
I agree with Kelvin.
We simply don’t know all the facts yet and need to let it play out. Apparently there is an investigation right now in AK.
She needs to be vetted, just like Obama, Hillary, McCain and Biden have been.
It seems NQ is already willing to give her a free pass. Hmmm…interesting.
Do you think she’ll produce a copy of her birth certificate?
ROFL
This idiot (the talking mule) claims that Obama has been vetted. He hasn’t. But he will be when McCain/Palin get finished with him. The political bloodbath will be historic.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/154599/page/2
So, how does it feel to have been scammed by “TechDude”? Can we please put this lie about the COLB to bed now?
no, we can’t. soeBOBO’s COLB ins’t the same as the decosta COLB
http://www.againstobama.com/wp-content/uploads/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg
Even the seals are different.
The only way I will believe it’s real is if you hand to Bill O’Riley and let his team of experts go over it. Hard to believe i couldn’t stand the man less than a year ago.
Oh my God, give it up. Fact Check is owned by Annenberg, the same corrupt organization that was part of Ayres and Obama.
Biden has accepted $5,133,072 in contributions from lawyers and lobbyists since 2003. Obama does not accept contributions from federally registered lobbyists.
And he has one other weakness that hasn’t received much attention to date. One of Biden’s sons, Hunter, is a registered Washington lobbyist in a year in which Obama has been excoriating lobbyists and the culture of corruption in Washington. The younger Biden is a name partner at the firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, LLP, and seems to have specialized in lobbying for just the kind of earmark spending by Congress that Obama has vowed to slash. Republican insiders say the party is likely to make an issue of Biden’s family lobbying ties.
Also expect to hear more about Biden’s close ties with credit card companies. His largest contributor (based on total contributions by employees) over the past five years has been MBNA, the Delaware-based bank aquired in 2005 by Bank of America than until then was the world’s largest independent credit card issuer and a major supporter of the 2005 bankruptcy bill that Biden crossed the aisle to support.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-lobbying-ties/
Correction: Obama started turning down lobbyist money shortly after he got the the Senate, right about the time he set up his exploratory committee. He raked in plenty of lobbyist money in his entire political career before that, in his Senate race, etc.
Another tidbit ; he already has a fund set up for his Senate reelection if he loses, and is currently accepting lobbyist money there.
He only stopped it for his presidential run alone, as a political ploy to paint himself pure as a virgin. Edwards at least, when he talked about lobbyists had credibility. He never took a dime from them. Bambi’s objection to lobbyists is a huge joke.
Obama has yet to be vetted.
Didn’t you get the memo? You cannot vet The One, it’s racist.
Kyptonite vs. Carbonite.
Obama’s been a rising star in national politics since the 2004 Dem convention. His life has been an open book since then. I know all about Rezko, Ayers and Wright. I have yet to hear or see Obama do and say anything that can be considered un-American. He has been vetted. The only people who don’t think so are a handful of angry Hillary huggers and xenophobes like Hannity and Rush. The people who supported him and helped him win the nomination have no reason to believe he is not the person who can take America in the direction it needs to go. We just don’t buy any of the bullshit that he’s the anti-Christ, or trying to subvert the government from the inside for Indonesian take-over, or trying to enslave the white race as president, or whatever you PUMAs are making up about him next. Palin may come out unscathed from her scandal, but the fact remains, she was picked rather hastily. Obama worked side by side with Biden in the Foreign Relations committee. That made Biden a great choice for the democratic ticket. McCain meet Palin once on February and talked to her on the phone once. That re-enforces my support of Obama. McCain has questions he needs to answer concerning his judgment.
he has not been vetted. thats a lie.
BO worked? When? I guess it’s hard work voting “present” eh?
Fact…
Fact….the President of the Illinois State Senate(Emil Jones) brags about being BO’s political godfather. He cleared the way for BO to be elected US Senator.Mr Jones ran in the primary unapposed.After it was too late for anyone to challenge him he announced he was stepping down and inserted his son as his replacement in the Nov. election.
Chicago is so corrupt.BO was schooled by people like Jones who has recently called an fellow elected official “Uncle Tom”.because she was supporting Hillary.
I will never vote for BO
PUMA
Hillary Huggers vs O’Bama Buggers.
Man, why can’t I take these trolls seriously?
Kelvin you say ” have yet to hear or see Obama do and say anything that can be considered un-American.”
Is it un-american to profit of the misery of poor people?
Is it un-american to vote for FISA?
Is it un-American to vote for Cheney’s energybill?
Is it un-american to lie?
It is un-american to violate numerous Federal laws, negogiate with Syria, Iran, Canada, Mexico and god nows what else?
Kurtzer said he informed the Obama campaign of his trip to Damascus.
The State Department considers Syria a state sponsor of terror. Damascus openly hosts the leaders of the Palestinian Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups and is accused of providing weapons and financing to the Iranian-backed Lebanese Hezbollah terror group..
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72910
(it was the top of the list on a search, and it donesn’t matter who’s reporting it these are “un-american” facts. He is a senatore and is breaking the law doing this.
Was it un-american to lie when BO say man Ayers “was just a guy in the niebohor hood?
Was it Un-American to channel money and kick backs to his patrons?
Was it Un-american to willing accept donations and loan deal from people who are not American citizens.
Odds are, if you say all of these where all above board you have lived a very sheltered life.
Don’t look now but that umbrella your standing under is going to be just another victim of another day in the windy city.
Ther are PEOPLE in Chicago who are fair and decent AMERICANS, that have suffered by Obama’s actions.
Hey Frank, I left a message for you on the other blog. If you’re so concerned about smears, you need to go to the obamablog on his website. If you don’t, you need to stop the smear talk here or else you’ll be the hypocrite I know you to be.
A smear is a smear, after all and you guys are the best at it. So go to the obamablog–NOW.
If this is the worst you can accuse her of then who cares. Oblabla has been proved much more unethical and hasn’t got near the accomplishment that she has under his belt. Oblabla looks like a lazy oaf nest to her.
I don’t give her a free pass. But she looks golden next to Obama
We have all been researching her. I knew she was a possible choice weeks ago and have had her on my radar. like Larry says above,
You on the other hand are a horrible judge of character and chose the worst possible candidate to support.
I am and always will be proud of Hillary, and I will never be anything but disgusted by your sham man.
He was friends with people I wouldn’t let my dogs play with.
Yeah, I wouldn’t let my dogs play with barky’s friends either. LoL
Barry’s friends are dogs.
That’s a nasty thing to say about canines.
You’re right, my apologies to dogs.
That you agree with Kelvin – now that is surprising and exciting.
You both crawled out the of Obamabot machine. Are you glassy-eyed and thrilled? Is you leg constantly tingling?
When did you have your epiphany that you must vote for “the one?”
Obama vetted don’t make me laugh now
The Republicans,and 527’s will do there own vetting of Obama 6 days before the Election..That should knock Obama down,a few points..Maybe he can spend some jail time with his old buddy Rezco…
Mccain/Palin..They don’t hang with Radicals
Whatever Francis, if my brother in law was beating my sister and nephew, while driving drunk, I’d try to get him fired too.
can you imagine this guy stopping you one night? he sounds like a winner.
“I agree with Kelvin.”
That is tantamount to saying “I’m a dumbass.”
Obama has been vetted????? ROFLOL !!!! Francis, there is a bridge in my hood up for sale ….
Is that like the consessions at O’Hare?
Hey tough guy, why don’t you say that to her husband’s face? Don’t you feel strongly enough about her “dirt” to do that? If you’re a man, you’d do it. Just do it.
She’ll probably knock him out…Ha! She is a tough one.
Kelvinheartsterrorists,
Please stop attacking people on their physical attributes, unless you’d care to post your picture so we may judge freely.
Besides, you may not like hearing an assessment of the Obama’s appearances.
The so called dirt on Palin you refer to has just been refuted in the article at the top of the page..you might want to take a break from causing more trouble for your candidate and read it.
Gov Palin looks to be a hard working, intelligent individual with a strong set of values. If Barry were the same or the dems had chosen another candidate with those traits (Hillary) we could all focus on issues.
Kelvinheartsterrorists
now that is funny.
“I know all about Wright, Ayers and Rezko, and I still think Obama is a patriotic American. Doesn’t everyone watch their preacher air hump the podium, call a former First Lady a bitch, ask God to damn America, celebrate 911 and print Hamas manifestos in the church bulletin? Doesn’t everyone hang out with flag-stomping terrorists who bombed federal buildings and police stations? Doesn’t everyone take bribes from corrupt influence peddlers engaged in felonious activity?”
Not everyone Hope, just those who celebrate only skin color and reading out loud.
What’s real is the dirty little lies that feed your dirty little mind.
Wasn’t Mr. Natural one of the heroes in those 60’s drug comix?
It’s really nothing but smears as your good buddy Francis likes to say.
Stop the smears.
http://newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_Palin_Gives_McCain/2008/08/30/126447.html
The latest nationwide survey, begun Friday afternoon after the McCain announcement of Palin as running mate and completed mid-afternoon today, shows McCain/Palin at 47%, compared to 45% support for Obama/Biden.
Thank you for the link.
And you are trying to peddle the dirtiest candidate ever to get nominated for president. Any credibility you hoped to have in life has vanished.
Not after this video goes viral:
BIDEN DRUNK ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
Barry Barack America Soretoro Obama has a problemo.
take a look at the body language of Obama and Meeechel……. very interesting
More sexist crap… from a Democrat? you must be a Republican. They are the “bad guys”, right. They are the ones dismissive of women, right?
PUMA sweetie
“It sounds to me like you PUMAs are the ones who are getting nervous.”
It’s the anti-Clinton ultra-left Dems who have the 7-1 losing record with 4 massive landslide defeats. So we know who’s nervous about yet another loss. O-bots are facing extinction.
Hate to break the news to you Kelvin, but your guy is no longer up in the polls. As of August 30th:
New Zogby poll shows McCain pulls AHEAD
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_Palin_Gives_McCain /2008/08/30/126447.html
McCain/Palin now at 47%
Obama/Biden slip to 45%
Obama’s support among Democrats remains at 86%
McCain’s support among Republicans increases to 92%.
Too bad, so sad (yeah, right).
BO’s dirt is real. I challenge you to find out it is not. You dumb dumb
lol! The polls have yet to reflect McCain’s bold choice. And I have seen allllllll the whining sniveling and crying in the Obamacult that McCain stole The One’s thunder.
Nice try, tho….I see all the rumors on kos and DU that the baby is not Sarah’s but her teen daughter’s baby. So. Where are your facts on that one?
Keep lying to yourself Kelvin, if it makes you feel better.
Maybe you should hang out with Biden, kick back a few beers.
It’s like accidently trippng over a diamond that this woman was given to the American voters from out of nowhere. After the lows of watching Hillary have to bow down to the One, we were given hope again. This election may turn out better than anyone could have imagined. I finally think that America has a chance to really do something great again.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all my fellow Americans who may be in the way of that monster storm heading for the US. May you all find safety.
The sheer immediate frantic response from the Oblabla Campaign was a neon sign flashing that McCain made a great chess move of which there was no defensive counter move. McCain captured the queen and place Oblabla in check.
Palin was the absolute best choice for McCain to make. And as a Hillary supporter, I didn’t feel insulted by his targeting us. I felt noticed and appreciated for a change. McCain bent over backwards with his speech, her speech, the signs in the auditorium and the choosing of a woman to show us that he’s been listening to our complaints. I was going to vote for McCain before but Palin as VP makes it easy for me now. McCain’s pick shows me what kind of president he intends to be and I’ll take that over fraudulent bulling thuggish Oblabla any day.
America first!
This looks to me like the sister was a victim in a classic domestic abuse situation. Also, Palin recounts that the trooper ex-husband threatened to kill her (and thus her sister’s) father for having the temerity to hire a lawyer to protect his daughter. Why wasn’t this guy fired long ago? Are they that hard up for troopers in Alaska?
OT: Two SC Dems (one a former DNC head, the other a Congressman) were taped while on an airline flight joking about Gustav hitting NOLA and upsetting the GOP convention, with the quip “God is on our side.” Fowler is still a member of the DNC apparently. Will Obama demand his resignation? Here’s the video link — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78
Finally, a video of Palin shooting a gun while visiting the troop in Kuwait. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7UzxXv8p4 If you were backed into a corner by thugs, who would you want to bail you out? McCain? Palin? Obama? Biden? I think the top two choices are obvious. All Biden and Obama have done their whole lives is talk.
Oh, one other thing. If you want to see someone operate under pressure, read the transcript of what Sarah Palin said what she did when her sister was being threatened by the ex, and Sarah was listening in online. (Go to Larry’s citation above, and when there look for the trooper interview.) While listening to the threats on the phone, she was getting ducks in a row, making sure a neighbor was monitoring the situation, using another phone to call one of the kids, etc. She had a cool head during an emergency.
Fowler’s attitude is disgusting. If he had visited some of the destruction from Katrina and talked to some of the people who had their homes destroyed and lives severely disrupted perhaps he would not find a disasters like this so amusing. Or perhaps he is just a pathetic man.
kat, apparently, yes, there was a trooper shortage, and the dolts said since he did not make this threat directly to his father-in-law, it was not “criminal.”
I still don’t know how tasering a kid didn’t get him fired.
Not only does she have experience negotiating hard terms for real value for Americans, she has also battled terrorism first hand.
Time for Obama to brandname his dirty-tricksters.
Luckily, Nixon’s dead, and CREEP is again available.
I agree, but the social issues just aren’t that important this time around. We have far too many problems that need our immediate attention and need someone with courage and principles. She fits the bill rather nicely.
These boots are made for walkin’
One of these days…
Hi Flineo, what is going on? Where have you been? I thought you had crossed over to the dark side.
♫ ♫
These votes are made for mavericks,
O’Bo and Dean we’re through
For Bill and Hill these maverick votes
have walked away from you…
That’s pretty sharp! LOL
Larry, you are terrific to write this! Hope you continue to fight the smears of Palin in this manner so that she is not the constant target of the disrespect machine that went after Hillary. Palin’s addition to the ticket has sealed the deal for me. They get my vote, the vote of a lifetime Dem. Now I have something I can vote FOR, as well as casting my vote AGAINST Obama.
Nobama!
Hillary4Ever!
John & Sarah in ‘08
Any creationist is ignorant. They will work to infect our children when we don’t need any more ignorance in this country. I’ve been totally against obama and especially the dnc assholes, but this is too much, I’ll have to go with obama. And hope Larry, that you and Berg bring obama down and we can find a new nominee. And someone tell mccane his is as ignorant as his VP nominee.
does that mean you believe Obama doesn’t believe in God? hmmm….
jimbo, you’re mouthing off like a BIG man, tell McCain and Palin yourself.
She is not a creationist. she said teaching it along side evolution would be o.k. Her father was a science teacher. Duh
What I read was that Palin once said that she wasn’t seeking to add Creationism to the curriculum, and that she wasn’t for stopping discussion of it when children ask about it in school. But this stuff is coming so thick and fast on the Internet, I don’t know the overall picture on this one. As somebody points out further down, Obama isn’t averse to creationism in the schools. (I’m not fond of it myself.)
Palin on evolution:
According to The Anchorage Daily News, she has supported allowing the teaching of the debate between creationism and evolution in public schools, if students bring it up, and not necessarily as part of the curriculum.
I’m am still shocked and ecstatic with McCain’s pick!!!!
Two mavericks on the same ticket!!!!!!!!! I have a youtube I am uploading in honor of the Palin pick!
YEEEPAH!
I am so excited also! The maverick is back!
Palin is an outside of DC politician. I could care less that she hasn’t made a speech in Berlin – after all that is about all the foreign policy experience Yobama has.
She seems like a real, down to earth person that I will vote for.
Go John and Sarah!
She made a terrific speech when McCain introduced her….without stuttering and without a teleprompter.
She also visited the wounded soldiers when she was in Germany.
And she didn’t just vote present 100 times while governor, or flip-flop on every single stinkin’ issue!
And it’s so nice to hear someone give a great speech without a teleprompter.
I wasn’t really happy with this choice, but the more I read about her, the more I like her. Unlike Barky–the more I know about him, the more I’ve dislike him until I now simply despise him. He should’ve stayed in Illinois.
Is Don Fowler under the bus yet??? How long are they going to let that piece of nastiness fester? We will remember in November.
Thank you Larry, great article. This Gov, has some moxie and I think maybe McCain saw that in her, she is different, she stands on her own two feet and by God she is genuine. IT is something in this day and age of politics. No head hanging low for this old lady today, it’s up and I’m smiling again for the first time in a long time.
Pa! Pa! Where’s my Ma?
She’s gone to the White House– ha ha ha.
She hasn’t departed yet, but she will soon – babies and all.
Oblabla has two small kids…. Are you saying that those with little kids can’t be president or vice president? Or are you saying only women can stay home with the babies? XYZ Zip up! Your sexism is showing
Just a little harmless satire at the thugs attacking Sarah Palin’s family; it’s based on what happened to Grover Cleveland, except in his case it wasn’t a smear.
Wikipedia:
To counter Cleveland’s image of purity, his opponents reported that Cleveland had fathered an illegitimate child while he was a lawyer in Buffalo… The derisive phrase “Ma, Ma, where’s my Pa?” rose as an unofficial campaign slogan for those who opposed him… Following (Cleveland’s) electoral victory, the “Ma, Ma…” attack phrase gained a classic rejoinder: “Gone to the White House. Ha! Ha! Ha!”
Zogby interactive already has McCain ahead; I can’t wait until this is confirmed by scientific polling.
The bastards have already failed to define Palin their way, hence their desperation.
We learned more about Palin in 3 hours than we know about Yobama after 2 years. I am excited that someone like her still exists and wants to get into this mess.
You know why? A real public servant is in the public eye working for the people leaving a footprint.
Obama does not want you to know about him, his life is full of slime.
I assume you’ve heard about the new Zogby poll? Sure it’s only Zogby, but the results are that McCain/Palin have stopped the Barky post-convention bounce cold. McCain Palin leads 47% to 45%.
Get ready to reap the whirlwind.
What was the name of that guy she defeated again? You know, he was good with teleprompters and Greek furniture, used to say uh a lot…
Wasn’t he the guy who used to stand in front of phallic symbols, which drove Bob Herbert to apoplexy?
Isn’t hubris derived from the Greek?
It is indeed.
Murkowski. Gov. Palin kicked her some powerful AlRepublican ass to get where she is. You have to respect that.
JohnIn CA
What Greek furniture? You mean Obambi’s posing at the fake Parthenon (made in Denver by Britney’s stagers) as the black Socrates? The one who used to love younger men listening to his monologues before Xanthippe (Michele) beat him over the head? Uhmmmm
Bobby Kennedy used to read form the poetry of Aeschylus. Obama reads from his Ludacris!
Yup! Now That’s change we can believe in!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the info!
Watch MSNBC and its gang of Obama cheerleaders to use Gustav against John McCain and Sarah Palin. Its coming no matter how well the response this time.
John McCain and Sarah Palin are not in power. Neither is Obama.
But George W. Bush sure is, and yes if New Orleans gets messed up again, there will be hell to pay for the Bush Administration and by proxy the Republicans.
Since McCain promises to run the gov’t pretty much the same as Bush, he may catch hell too. But he has no one to blame for that but himself.
except the democratic congress never funded a full rebuild.
WildChild is a Republican.
WildChild has no party affiliation anymore. Your own accusation that I am a republican is based on nothing more than my unwillingness to lie for the Democrats to make soeBOBO look good. The irony of course is that the republicans expect their fringe to lie for them just like you democrats expect your fringe to lie for you.
But I find the truth to be a much more effective weapon.
Francis is a mule.
Too bad he’s not the “non talking” kind.
Francis is a liar!
He uses his hooves to type. Pin the tail on the donkey
Wild Kid, let me say this again. The Republicans blocked much of the $ to Louisiana until a Republican got in the Governor’s Office.
Then the money started to flow. Right now Louisiana is flush with $. With Louisiana’s track record, that may not have been a bad move.
Cool. story # 2. LOL story # 1 had it that the republican kept threatening to filibuster a rebuild. That’s why the democratic congress didn’t appropriate money. Any of you soeBOBOweenies care to add a story # 3?
Joy, I’d like a link to that accusation so I can find out for myself, I don’t like getting my information second hand.
Then research it yourself…some of us followed it as it happened. If you like getting your info first hand, do some research. Plenty of search engines out there.
I always recommend including all the local papers….they know the most about their own town.
Francis you’re raving again. Take it to the oblahblah blogs.
Take your defense of of BUSH and shove it.
If this terrible storm hits America you can bet McCain and the Republicans will be seen doing what is right for the American people they serve in spite and instead of creating a rock concert celebrity convention.
At the very least, their surrogates will not happily call it a fitting act of God.
Why do you guys insist on holding Obama responsible for everything anyone says?
Don Fowler SUPPORTED HILLARY during the primaries. So should she be held responsible for what he said about New Orleans?
I take it you aren’t aware the primaries ended in June…and its now August
Francis,
I don’t see Obama’s name in that comment, do you? I said surrogates. Obama supporters by defintion choose to believe in and see things that aren’t there. If you think it reflects on Obama that public servants of his party hope for the devastation of American citizens, that’s your problem.
Francis, being a hoofed quadriped, doesn’t rad very well. Just ask Donald O’Connor.
Just like when Republicans said a terrorist attack on the US would help the Republicans. Both statments reflect poorly on both parties.
just like? Were they laughing when they said it? Did they see it as a sign from GOD.
Joy took that statement out of context. If I remember right, it was a discussion about what makes people vote republican or Democrat. Someone said if the U.S was attacked that people would vote Republican because people feel safer under the Republicans.
Florida Person, The media, CNN I think, had a Republican strategist on video saying if a terrorist attacked the US it would be good for the Republicans. That’s probably accurate but not cool to voice it.
If it’s on video Brownshirt. It shouldn’t be very difficult for you to find.
Wild kid,
See CNNMoney.Com Fortune
Interview By David Whitford, editor at large
Last Updated: June 28, 2008: 4:47 PM EDT with Charlie Black
On national security McCain wins. We saw how that might play out early in the campaign, when one good scare, one timely reminder of the chaos lurking in the world, probably saved McCain in New Hampshire, a state he had to win to save his candidacy – this according to McCain’s chief strategist, Charlie Black. The assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event,” says Black. “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it reemphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be Commander-in-Chief. And it helped us.” As would, Black concedes with startling candor after we raise the issue, another terrorist attack on U.S. soil. “Certainly it would be a big advantage to him,” says Black
LOL yeah I already knew there wasn’t a video.
Wild Kid said “LOL yeah I already knew there wasn’t a video.” Now aren’t you special.
You can read it yourself. Charlie Black said Republicans, McCain in particular, benefit from a terrorists attack on the US.
Are you kidding? We blogged about it when it happened. LOL that’s how I knew there was no video. What you will find though is video of keith oberman going insane over black’s remarks yet then just a few months later yucking it up with Micheal Moore when he’s saying a hurricane is proof there is a god in heaven. So surely they are not the same as you would have us believe. The hypothetical gets the condemnation of Keith. The actual gets the laughter of Keith.
Whizo Kid, someone on this blog had a video of a Democrat on a plane talking about a Hurricane hitting New Orleans and how that helped the Democrats. I referenced that. And said that was as despicable as Charlie’s statement that a terror attack helped McCain and the Republicans. No where did I mention Moore or Olbermann.
sorry joy, the guy in the plane isn’t saying a hurricane hitting New Orleans would help the democrats. He’s saying the hurricane currently moving toward New Orleans is a sign from god and he’s laughing about it. Apparently further destruction of that already battered city is cause for joy in the ranks of the mindless sheeple for the precious
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN30494388
McCain told the rally he was keeping the people in the Gulf Coast in his thoughts and prayers and said in a taped interview on Fox News that the convention could be postponed.
“It just wouldn’t be appropriate to have a festive occasion while a near tragedy or a terrible challenge is presented in the form of a natural disaster,” he said in the interview.
from:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/amandascott/gG5D2m/commentary#comments
Have a big depth of knowlege in petroleum exploration and exploitation, do we?
Still have your supplies from Y2K?
What a fucking dumbass, on so many levels.
NOT BEING A DEMOCRAT ANY MORE MEANS NO LONGER HAVING TO BITE MY TONGUE WHEN IDIOTS SPOUT STUPID SHIT ABOUT WHICH THEY KNOW JACK SHIT!
Good morning, 935 Lies.
I’d almost forgotten about that rather stunning number. Aren’t we lucky Howard Dean has named Barack Obama as Fearless Defender of America’s Constitution?
Obama: “Impeachment is not acceptable.”
- USA Today, June 28, 2007,
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm#uslPageReturn
Yep. Sends a chill right down my spine.
How clasic.. almost as good as Pelosi and Obama saying how they’re going to end our dependence on foriegn oil by making sure that they continue the existing domestic production bans in place.
That’s very disingenuous to assert.
We place import caps on oil and gas to make the price higher.
We started drilling onshore protected timber lands when GWB took office and the price went up as a result. Our pricing now reflects the cost of getting wells to run, and with oversight of them peeled back so they can mark production incorrectly and further bottleneck the price.
I’ve worked for an oil service sector supplier, and it really gets me to hear people lie about the extent to which we allow the seven sisters to inflate prices in North America.
You’re aware we have less total refining capacity than we had when Ike was President?
Disingenious?
What I said was true.. that is their position… nothing you said addressed whether or not Obama and Pelosi stated they want to eliminate foreign oil while simultaneously preserving the existing production bans.
You act like they put limits for wells that are online. They’ve been caught underreporting the amount of online wells also.
Mostly on protected lands the Native American tribes have claim or lease rights to, or had lease rights to at one time.
Cobell v. Norton
I read Cobell v Norton, there was no mention of under reporting the amount of online wells.
It was about a mismanagement of revenues generated by mining, oil and gas extraction, timber operations, grazing or similar activities on Indian land by the government.
McCain and Palin will be in Jackson, Mississippi today (Sunday) checking on people getting prepared for hurricane Gustav. They will also receive a storm briefing at the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency.
Here’s the URL to the news story:
Title: McCain, Palin going to region threatened by storm
http://ncane.com/pka
Hopem, I think McCain learned his lesson watching Bush and Katrina. The Democratic statement that a hurricane hitting New Orleans is good for the Democrats is as despicable at the Republican statement a terrorist attack on the US is good for the Republicans.
Yep. Look for them to spend 5 million on actually helping people instead of putting on a Greek farce. That was a great use of dollars don’t ya think? Sure got him far ahead in the polls and everything. What a freakin joke.
“Watch MSNBC”
No, I refuse to torture myself watching sloppy journalism.
THE DNC IS EVIL. FOWLER LAUGHING AT PEOPLE GETTING KILLED IN THE HURRICANE BECAUSE IT WILL RUIN THE REPUBS’ CONVENTION!!!! EVIL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78
Evacuation order as Gustav approaches
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August 31, 2008 – 12:17PM
New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin has ordered the city emptied tomorrow in the face of “the storm of the century”, warning anyone that stays behind that they are on their own.
“I am announcing today mandatory evacuation of New Orleans starting 8am Sunday (2300 Sunday AEST) on the West bank,” Nagin said at a press conference. “We want everybody… we want 100 per cent evacuation. If you decide to stay, you are on your own.”
Mandatory evacuations in St. Bernard, Plaquemines, St. Charles and lower Jefferson parishes
by The Times-Picayune
Saturday August 30, 2008, 12:52 PM
Two East Texas counties issued mandatory evacuation orders, and authorities in Mississippi, also battered by Katrina, began evacuating the mentally ill and aged from facilities along the coast.
National Guard soldiers on Mississippi’s coast were going door-to-door to alert thousands of families in FEMA trailers and cottages that they should be prepared to evacuate Sunday.
In Alabama, shelters were opened and 3,000 National Guard personnel assembled to help evacuees from Mississippi and Louisiana.
Issued by the Red Cross 45 minutes ago:
WASHINGTON, Aug 30, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — As mandatory and voluntary evacuations force Gulf Coast residents to evacuate ahead of Hurricane Gustav, the American Red Cross encourages everyone affected by the storm to prepare before evacuating.
If you or your loved ones are in the potentially affected areas, register yourself on the Red Cross Safe and Well Website at http://www.redcross.org, or call a loved one and ask them to register you. The Red Cross provides this online tool to help families and individuals notify loved ones that they are safe during an emergency, which can help bring peace of mind in challenging times.
The Safe and Well website is easy to use:
1. Visit http://www.redcross.org, and click on the Safe and Well link
2. If you are currently being affected by these disasters, click: “List Myself as Safe and Well,” enter your pre-disaster address and phone number, and select any of the standard message options
3. If you are concerned about a loved one, click “Search” and enter the person’s name and pre-disaster phone number or address. If they have registered, you will be able to view the messages that they posted
4. If you don’t have internet access, you can call 1-800-RED-CROSS (1-800- 733-2767) to register yourself and your family. Follow the prompts for disaster information.
If you are evacuating, you need to bring important items with you, including but not limited to:
– Medical supplies, such as prescription medications and dentures
– Toiletries
– Clothing and bedding-a change of clothes and a sleeping bag or bedroll and pillow for each household member
– Games/comfort items for children
– Disaster supplies-flashlight, batteries, radio, first aid kit, bottled water
– Car keys and keys to the place you may be going (friend’s or relative’s home)
If you have not been advised of an evacuation, prepare these items now in case you have to leave. For more information on how to prepare for an evacuation, visit http://www.redcross.org.
If you decide to stay, you are on your own.”
Nothing has changed.
Well….one thing has changed…they are putting wrist bracelets on evacuees.
With barcodes so they can “keep track” of them.
Does this make sense to anyone?
Dear God, the Haliburton camps!
Kelvin is here because he knows what is said here is true. He can’t help his self! I’ll take a family squabble over a being buddies with a terrorist anyday. Good comparison here…
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/
Here’s my youtube about Palin…..regardless of the Obama smear tactics, we will fight these last 60+ days like never before!
http://www.youtube.com/v/wUqXptaQ_2M
Don’t mess with the bull….you’ll get the horns.
I have been reading some of the media headlines and some blogs and its so strange the lengths that some of these media people are going to to dump on this Palin choice.
A small town American gal that got married and worked her way up seems to be something we must never have in politics or even dare to think of maybe president.
On the other hand a slick Chicago AA, who sat for years in a church slamming America, whose friends are questionable, who we are not 100% sure is he has some kind of Muslim connection or not, who still leaves a blank with names like Rezko and his wife stint on the hospital board. All these unanswered gaps seems acceptable to place in the WH, rather than the hockey mom with 5 kids.
This country has really lost its way in this election, seems everyone loves a image, a make believe setting, glitter and glamor, as I read through some of the stuff on the internet I feel sick for this country and hope that good sense will prevail in the end, if not we really deserve what we get.
The type that is supporting Obama in this election cycle is no different than the Bush supporters from the two previous cycles.
True…what is different is that the party faithful who see through him are fighting him tooth and nail. PUMA style.
Something no Republicans did through two terms of Bush-Cheney disaster.
But it is just heartrending to learn first hand that the extremes on either end so resemble each other.
And maybe reform is finally on the agenda.
The Obamabot ad men prolly spent a coupla hundred thou. doing anti- Romney ads after Mcains head fake on thurs aft! the Palin pick cleaned their clocks! it completely negated the speech! even the MSM had 2 run all day and nite with the palin story! Obama speech?? WHAT SPEECH!
It didn’t carry very far in that thin Denver air did it?
NEW YORK — Barack Obama’s audience for his acceptance speech at Invesco Field in Denver likely topped 40 million people, and the Democratic gathering that nominated him was a more popular television event than any other political convention in history.
You’re right, they probably did so much work on anti-Romney ads they are pissed since they can’t show them. But they have already demonstrated that they are good with the anti-women campaign so they will pick up with Sarah where they left off with Hillary.
We are FINALLY able to make this one right, and openly battle CNN, ABC, FoxNews and MSNBC, every time they make a SEXIST case against Sarah Palin. Every time they play the “inexperience” card, we must throw it back in their face with Obama’s own pathetic resume. Ironically, most of you can already point out a few clear achievements of Sarah Palin, even without knowing much about her, while most Obama surrogates, including Mr. Dukakis, are utterly unable to pin point a SINGLE achievement by Barack Obama.
So please, get ready, because the Media’s motors are starting up again, and you will now hear EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR PUNDITS come up with very creative ways of arguing that this new woman is “no good”, “needs more time with her ’special needs’ child”, “she reminds them of their nagging ex wives”, etc.
Will we allow this same nonsense to happen again? Or will ALL of Hillary Clinton’s supporters, irrespective of the SUPPOSED platform agreements that they may share with the DNC, take a stand and finally support a strong woman for an executive position? Do any of you really think that 95% of the African American population who is now supporting Obama GIVES A DAMN about his “political proposals”? Do you think that the DNC is using their support to get to the White House out of their love of “racial equality”? Isn’t it time to have women show their power by putting their ballots behind a woman, even if only by 51%?
I with you HARP. It’s time to break the glass ceiling…cracks-smacks let’s get it done. Dems are too misogynistic so if it has to be a Republican, so be it.
McCain/PALIN! 08
If you have no intention of voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin it is incumbent on you to smack down the sexist pigs at MSNBC and where ever else they raise their porcine heads to grunt and squeal their bias against women.
I did not realize how bad the sexism was until the Obama campaign shed light on it. People can decide these next two months if they want to finally stand up to it.
Everything the Obama campaign stands for is wrong.
Harp — I will take a stand–ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Gov. Palin is in effect being investigated by the thugs in the Obama Campaign. Until Obama can prove he’s an American whose name is Barack Obama nothing he says or does carries any weight with me. To the Democratic Party — you are shameful.
“Media’s motors(sic) are starting up again”
HARP, I can only assume you meant to say MOTOR MOUTHS.
~:)
I find this interesting. If Palin has so much “dirt” on her why didn’t it come out before her selection as VP for McCain?
After all, the MSM/Corporate media covered for John Edwards all of this time. They only reported it reluctantly and dropped the story as soon as possible.
Does that sound like media that would ignore dirt about Palin? There were many articles about the corruption in the Republican party in Alaska. I read them. Palin’s name wasn’t in any of them.
Well, were used to it by now. The MSM/Corporate media are now absolute truth tellers now that they mostly support Obama. Aren’t these the same outlets that have carried water for GWB all of these years? The evil MSM/SCLM/Corporate media? Now they’re honest.
How many NYC / LA /DC media type wish to go to Alaska and leave their cozy confines of tingling legs and Pimping their wares on Pennsylvania ave.
A least some stringers in Alaska will get some biz.
Anyone have the Who’s who in Alaskan politics 2008 edition?
Be nice to know who is racking the balls on this table.
Great article, Larry. But some of your facts are wrong.
The trooper, Wooten, was never fired. He is still working as an Alaska State Trooper as I type.
The commissioner, Monagen, was never fired either. Sarah offered him another job, but he didn’t like it and so he quit.
This has all the making of a hit job. The democrat spear heading the investigation, Hollis French, is active in Obama’s campaign in Alaska. The investigator, Branchflower, used to work with French in the prosecutor’s office. Branchflower’s wife used to be a detective who used to work for Monagen when he was top cop for Anchorage. There’s a quote of her heaping praise on her old boss.
You would think they could have found an unbiased investigator for the $100,000 that is being paid to Branchflower.
Thank you for the info from one who knows. So the firings didn’t happen.
So why is the Obama campaign saying they did?
So much for the vindictive woman going after people she didn’t like. So much for the scandal.
Thank you. But I do have a question. If you know this because you live there why is the MSM/Corporate media reporting otherwise? It wouldn’t be that hard for them to find the truth. They could talk to Alaskan residents such as you.
You’re right. It’s a hit job and a swift boating of the first order.
it seems Sara Palin is going to need a fight the smears website to protect her from Barry soeBOBO.
to protect her and her family. Looks like the vile kooks are going after her children looking at the link on one of these comments.
>>> So why is the Obama campaign saying they did?
Because they are lying sacks of shit, and no one has called them on it so far.
Thanks Laura. Corrected the facts.
LJ
A big question on the investigation — why couldn’t they hire a retired judge to conduct the investigation?
It’s stupid on the part of the Alaskan Dems — if it comes out against her independents will say it was biased anyway.
Personally, I think only the blogosphere will care. Most people vote on other issues and perceptions.
Wooten sounds like an out of control thug.
Sarah fought Republican corruption in Alaska. Obama embraced Democratic corruption in Chicago.
That’s the truth.
Did you hear that, Francis?
Excellent point.
Your comment made gem of the day at
newwavedemocrats.wordpress.com/comment-of-the-day/
I truly hope this woman is up for the job. There is much to discover about her at this point. She seems refreshing and honest and energetic and enthusiastic, and doesn’t strike me at all as a coy and conniving politician who speaks out of both sides of her mouth. Whether she can withstand the rigors about to confront her remains to be seen. After all, we have the prototype inexperienced candidate who can talk a good game in front of us right now. Maybe she can charm the media just as he did.
In a month’s time, let’s see where the polls stand, and let’s see if the promised bombsells against Obama materialize.
It could be a very different race, with different names on the ticket, if JoeBama is tanking in the polls. We shall see. Honestly, I think Obie would throw Joe under the bus (hmmm….health reasons, perhaps) if he felt that a do-over with Hillary would resurrect his hope-change thing.
This is going to be an extremely interesting couple of months as we watch and see how America responds to this experiment by both parties.
God, I hate GWB more than ever. If he wasn’t a total screw-up, we would never have been so vulnerable to the “change” message, and frontrunner Hillary would be safely nominated now, probably with Evan Bayh, Rendell, or even Obambi as her number 2.
I truly hope this woman is up for the job.
Okay, why are we talking about her being a heartbeat away from the president when McCain a full clean bill of health and we’ve yet to see Barry’s full health record. What we got was a note from the doctor saying he’s healthy and the check up was 13 months prior. Seriously, the dude used to smoke like a chimney, he did drugs, and AA males tend have the highest rate of cancer.
Don’t forget his freakish purple lips, which indicate a health problem.
Or drug abuse?