How Does Obama Attack a White Woman in the Post-OJ Era – part deux
By LisaB on August 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM in Current Affairs
1) Politico has a piece today about how Obama manages some of his attack messages. His staffers deliver the message and Obama then disavows by saying his staff was “overzealous.” It’s the rhetorical equivalent of WORM (What Obama REALLY Meant) when delivered by his staff. Now Obama says “what my staff SHOULD have done/said.”
The latest disavowal of his staff’s comments on his behalf or in his name [the initial slam against Palin] continues a tactic Obama employed repeatedly during his contentious battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.
When confronted about a campaign memo during the primary that criticized Clinton’s ties to India, referring to her as “D-Punjab,” Obama called it “a screw-up on the part of our research team” and said “it was stupid and caustic.”
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And when the late Tim Russert asked Obama at a Las Vegas debate about his campaign’s efforts to push the storyline that Team Clinton was stoking racial tensions, Obama said “our supporters, our staff, get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say.”
But, he added, “it is my responsibility to make sure that we’re setting a clear tone in our campaign.”
The writer goes on to say that Obama says his staff are terribly important to him but he rebukes them in public. True. But I think it’s more of a tactic in getting out a message.
But Obama also has delegated blame on important policy questions.
The author mentions how Obama blamed his staff for not getting him to a firefighters group in person, filling out a questionnaire incorrectly, phrasing his position on abortion rights incorrectly on his website, and his phrasing in a speech where he said Jerusalem would remain “undivided.”
Oh, and this one:
Obama also blamed his staff for underestimating how much money since-convicted businessman Tony Rezko had raised for his earlier campaigns and for a letter from his office urging city and state officials to fund a Rezko project.
If Obama wins the presidency, we all better hope he hires more competent people or, at least, mind readers.
2) The Weekly Standard runs through recent Republican and Democratic candidates on the campaign trail and says the pattern is for Democrats to seem smarter than they are and for the Republicans to get the “dumb” label. An arguable point, I’m sure. But it includes a bit about how Sarah Palin is likely to be attacked by the left wing.
So in order to bring down Palin, her malefactors on the left will have to argue a lack of “readiness,” which with the thinly credentialed Obama on the other ticket can only serve as a shorthand for lack of intelligence. . . Of course, any misstatement on the campaign trail will serve as prima facie proof of her dim intellect. True, political observers have formed gambling pools wagering on when Joe Biden will make his first hilarious gaffe as Barack Obama’s running mate. While that gaffe, inevitable as it is, may do damage to the ticket, no one on the New York Times editorial board will conclude from it that Joe Biden isn’t that bright. Sarah Palin will not receive the same benefit of the doubt.
In some ways, being Sarah Palin for the next two months and change doesn’t sound like a lot of fun. In spite of her many and notable self-made successes, an entire intellectual industry has already sprouted up with the sole intention of proving that she’s a moron. The left wants to Quayle-ize her, and their efforts to do so won’t be half-hearted.
Well, we’ve already seen the “Quayle” reference.
3) Now HERE’s something interesting. The NYT has an article today about some young Obama supporters felt alienated at the convention.
Members under 35 made up 16 percent of the delegates — a record for the party’s national convention, according to the Youth Council of the Democratic National Committee. . .
Mr. Meek, a co-chairman of a Democratic group working with young voters, said this subset of the electorate would be especially attuned to shifts in policy, even subtle ones, made by Mr. Obama.
“He’s going to have to master the art of being able to keep individuals motivated,” Mr. Meek said, “so that they don’t feel heartbroken because something they were told during the primary phase is something that he’s going to have to take a different position on in the general election.”
Edward Espinoza, 35, a delegate from California who has been involved in the Democratic Youth Council, said he was disappointed by Mr. Obama’s recent indications that he might support a limited expansion of offshore oil drilling.
“I understand why he needs to do it. I don’t agree with it, but I’m still with him 100 percent,” Mr. Espinoza said. “You can’t govern if you can’t win.”
Is this a potentially large break? I don’t think so. Of all the constituencies out there, I think Obama’s “youth vote” will be terrifically reliable – if they get to the polls. They may find that politicians don’t always deliver on their promises and get disappointed, but we’ve all been there. They’ll still vote BO.
4) The New Yorker has a piece on the Democratic convention and how it played out. I don’t know why it starts with Norman Mailer, but it does. At any rate, if you followed the convention at all, you don’t need to read this. No new information and little analysis. It’s simply a kind of travelogue for the convention, without any entertaining bits or critique.
5) Far more interesting is a NYT piece on how the GE will shape up now that both tickets are full. Among several points, the author notes that Democrats did not do much research on Palin and have yet to decide how to attack her. To me that means the attacks will be rather general at first and yet more wild. As we know, DK (I won’t link to it) has already been spreading the rumor that Palin’s baby is not really hers but her daughter’s. Blech.
Mr. Obama’s advisers said that compared with the mountains of data they had gathered on Mr. Pawlenty and Mr. Romney, they had far less information on Ms. Palin. Their dossier consisted of a thin document based mainly on her run for governor and newspaper clips.
———————-“I can’t imagine the Obama team will spend their time on Palin; they’ll spend their time with their negative ads attacking McCain and Bush,” said Mandy Grunwald, Mrs. Clinton’s chief advertising strategist. “You always have to be careful not to rally people to her side by attacking too much.”
Republicans said Ms. Palin would provide an outlet for women angered at what they said was the poor treatment of Mrs. Clinton by the Obama campaign, the Democratic Party leadership and the news media. Nicolle Wallace, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, said: “I think the public pretty much accepts the fact that they played pretty dirty and that sexism played a role in the primary.”
Mr. Obama’s campaign has moved on a variety of fronts to increase his appeal to women. Leading women in battleground states are being mobilized, and a disproportionate number of female surrogates are being sent to argue for him on television. They are being asked to focus on abortion rights and pay equity, aides said, and to steer clear of criticizing Ms. Palin as having limited experience in elected politics and government.
Pay equity? Obama’s going to emphasize pay equity? Huh. Didn’t see THAT coming. He might just want to equalize the pay in his own campaign then – something McCain did from the jump.
As an aside, it looks like the Obama campaign will still pursue the idea that McCain wouldn’t capture OBL. Kind of looks like the Rovian “attack a strength” strategy. But seriously, it makes no sense.
At a stop on Friday in western Pennsylvania, one of Mr. Obama’s biggest applause lines was reprised from his Denver speech, mocking Mr. McCain for pledging to follow Osama bin Laden to the “gates of hell” but not, in the view of Democrats, supporting sufficient military force in Afghanistan to capture him.
Oh, I get it. It’s payback for all the snark about Obama not going to Iraq. OK, yawn. Did Obama do some spelunking during his visit in Afghanistan we didn’t hear about?
6) At The Hill, someone obtained an internal Obama campaign memo about how to frame Palin as the VP pick.
While the Obama campaign released a statement Friday saying that Obama and running mate Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) hailed the pick, the internal talking points memo distributed to surrogates made it clear that Democrats plan to portray Palin as inexperienced and a politically expedient pick for McCain to mollify hardcore conservatives in his party.
“What does it say that he knuckled under to the right-wing of his party, who angrily threatened to veto McCain’s preferred candidates, Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge, for their pro-choice views?,” the memo reads. “What does it say that, in order to satisfy the right, he hastily selected someone he barely knew-and had only met once – to serve a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
Inexperienced? Given that her resume is no less solid than Obama’s own, I suspect the “inexperienced” label will come laden with sub-text relating to her appearance, her being a her, her family and her being part of a wilderness state – so rural “they don’t know how big boys play hard in the big city” kind of thing.
As for the expedient part, it’s good to know that Biden wasn’t at all expedient. He is a change-agent who can rock the youth vote and bring hope to all those he hasn’t managed to touch in 30+ years as a legislator.
Actually, I don’t think the expedient idea will sell either. It’s too easy to counter that Obama, running on change and anti-Washington themes has pivoted from his initial and core theme – change.
What could be more expedient than that?
7) Newsday has a good piece about the position the Obama campaign finds itself in with respect to gender.
After treading lightly for months to avoid a slip or slight that could be seen as a racial attack, McCain’s camp converted the glass ceiling into thin ice for the Obama campaign. They did it with a pick that almost dares Democrats to criticize Sarah Palin and risk charges of insensitivity or sexism.
“I think the Clinton campaign has heightened the sensitivity of women about any kind of implied or inferred slight,” said Ruth Mandel, director of the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers University.
“The Palin nomination,” she said, “has kind of reopened those sensitive feelings.”
The trap was set when McCain aired an ad congratulating Obama on his historic nomination as the Democratic candidate on Thursday. The next day, McCain made history by tapping Palin, the Alaska governor, as the first woman running mate on a GOP ticket.
Obama’s campaign quickly fell into the net, firing out a statement hitting Palin as inexperienced – before Obama had second thoughts and issued a statement praising Palin for her own historic moment.
Yesterday the McCain campaign signaled it’s ready to debate whether Palin actually has more experience than Obama, a first-term U.S. senator and former state legislator.
That move carries the implied threat that if Obama’s camp dismisses Palin’s accomplishments as a businesswoman, small town mayor and Alaska governor of 19 months as inadequate, McCain’s backers will charge it’s because she’s a woman.
I mentioned in an earlier post that McCain’s ad congratulating Obama was classy, but that any ad would also serve some other purpose. So, while the Democrats were breaking their collective wrists patting themselves on the back for nominating the first AA, the McCain campaign prepared for its own historic run.
However, I would caution the McCain camp on one thing. Despite the anger of many women this election cycle over how HRC’s campaign was handled by “her” party, the charges of sexism and racism do not automatically cancel each other out. If that had been the case, then all the charges of racism would not have been so useful against Bill Clinton and others who would not vote for Obama.
And the media would NEVER have gotten away with what it did. Sexism is still tolerated to a degree that racism is not.
8 ) But, hands down, the best discussion of the Palin pick I’ve seen is the transcript from PBS NewsHour.
DAVID BROOKS: Yesterday. And it did not follow a lot of intimate contact between John McCain and the governor. He’s obviously met her, had some phone calls, but they do not know each other as well as McCain knows all the other short-listers.
So he was taking a risk. But what he saw was someone like himself. Everybody is emphasizing the differences between them.
JIM LEHRER: Sure.
DAVID BROOKS: But what he saw when he looked at her, according to the people I spoke to, is someone who fights the same fights I fight. The first gateway sort of fight that he thought they have in common was the bridge to nowhere. He’s been talking about that for years. She’s the one who killed it.
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DAVID BROOKS: She said, “Forget it.” She said, “Forget it.”
The second thing he liked was she took on the Republican Party. She had a corrupt Republican Party. It was her own party. She took it on in a very risky way. McCain sort of sometimes sees himself in that role, Jack Abramoff.
And the third thing was the fight she had with the oil companies over the pipeline, which was a big fight. And he saw her — he goes after Boeing, she goes after the oil companies.
So he said, “This is someone who’s like me.” I mean, I’m sure he appreciated that she’s a woman and all the differences. But the essential thing was a reformer like me, even though he doesn’t know her that well.
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DAVID BROOKS: But I thought she did well today.
But the second thing to be said is she is an under-45 Republican. That means she’s unwedded to Reaganism. She’s Evangelical, but she’s pretty progressive on gay and lesbian issues. She’s for drilling in ANWR, but she talks about global warming quite a lot.
She’s got different categories in her head than, I think, the older conservatives who are pretty much down the line ideologically.
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KAYLENE JOHNSON: Well, she basically took on the good-old-boy network right at the beginning with city council starting in the Wasilla city council. And when she did that, she made enemies right away, but she also made some good friends.
And I think that that has served her well, that she has basically stood up for what she believed in and moved forward. And she hasn’t really taken the notion that inexperience is a reason not to move forward and not to move on the things that you believe in.
JUDY WOODRUFF: She then ran for the Alaska — or was asked to serve, I should say, on the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission. What about her record there?
KAYLENE JOHNSON: Well, she was — she was appointed to be the ethics officer for that position or for that commission. And she saw some violations in ethics that were coming directly from the leader and the head of the Republican Party here in Alaska.
Well, she called him on that. And you would have thought that that might have been the end of her career, because she was calling on the carpet the person in charge of the Republican Party in Alaska.
So she really — she did that, and she basically came out swinging. And that really showed her as a reformer, and it also showed that principle was above party politics, as far as she was concerned.
————-MICHAEL CAREY: I would — so far, she’s been a fairly practical conservative. It is true that she’s an abortion opponent and holds some very conservative views, but she really hasn’t pushed it, and she’s made some super-conservatives very angry for that purpose.
This is good stuf. The transcript is 2 pages long, but very interesting and worth your time. You will learn something new here.
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How Does Obama Attack a White Woman in the Post-OJ Era?
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSE TO MEAN?!?!?!?!
News.. at 11:00!
You obviously have forgotten Jessee Jackson Junior’s remark about Oj and Hillary in South Carolina. But then bots only hear and see Obama lovey dovey stuff from each other.
Do your research Francis!
So we are not allowed to question Sarah Palin fitness for the job because she’s a woman?
No, you just can’t attack her for her sexuality. When you examine her record and weigh her career, hold her to the same standards you would your own presidential nominee and several of his VP picks. I welcome aby comparison of Obama and Palin’s records.
Correction. Gender not sexuality, though Palin has the strongest record supporting gay rights of any of the four candidates.
Now that’s funny! Both Obama and Giden support civil unions for same-sex couples.
Palin amd McCain do not.
Thanks for playing!
Really? Did you see saddleback?
Thanks for playing with yourself.
Uh. Compare her to Governor Kaine. The almost second on the ticket …. Ding Ding Ding. You’re toast.
This is not exactly true. while the state has a gay marriage ban, they tried to take it a step further and deny domestic partner benefits to employees of companies in the state. She vetoed and in effect killed the bill.
You are a loser and immoral for spreading lies.
Francis lies every time he posts. If he’s posting; he’s lying. Bank on it.
As a Gay man, i would rather lose the opportunity to see the next reality series “Gay Bridezillas” than allow a crooked fraud with no experience run this country into the ground.
Thanks for playing the gay Rights card though.
You’re on a roll, Jeremiah!
Oh now, they’re concerned about gay rights?
But what about Obama’s appearance with McClurkin? And another fellow whose name I forget? They both endorsed him and he openly welcomed their support.
But I guess he had no idea what their views were. If he didn’t know maybe Obama is more Quayle-like than Palin.
Both of them purport to “fix” or “cure” gay people.
Guess Obama isn’t pro-gay folks after all.
Obama refused to take a picture with Mayor Gavin Newsome of San Francisco because he didn’t want to offend evangelicals! Actually, that’s partially true. He didn’t take a picture with Newsome because Newsome supported HRC.
Any way you cut it, Obama is petty, vindictive, and the biggest winnie I’ve ever seen on the national scene!
Re: Newsome a Clinton supporter: Hardly. At the time, Newsom was holding fundraisers for OBAMA. Willie Brown confirmed that Obama said directly that he didn’t want to be photographed with the guy known as the Gay Marriage Mayor.
don’t worry by the time we are two weeks out from the election they will be so desperate that they will be tossing out the turban card: The Republicans are going to make you unwrap your turban before you can enter a plane!
Never mind you cant take a picture with obama wearing a head scarf or turban.
It’s only going to get worse as the day draws closer.
The last card they will play the night before on MSNBC is the Riot Card!
If Obama doesn’t win theiere will be riots in the streets!
whose Giden? lol.
no you can’t attack her just because of her gender, Franc-ASS. but that’s all you got. be the sexist pig that you, barky and biden are, show the world what has become of the democratic party.
McCain/Palin ‘08 HRC 2012!
That’s a lie, Francis.
Palin’s FIRST VETO was to veto legislation that would not provide equal rights for gay couples. She did not approve gay marriage, but neither did my own state (NY). I reside in Manhattan, and none of us are worried about that. We DO, however, recognize marriages performed in other states.
So, check your facts before you lie again.
John McCain made it very clear where he stood on civil unions in Saddleback. He does not oppose them.
At The Hill, someone obtained an internal Obama campaign memo about how to frame Palin as the VP pick.
While the Obama campaign released a statement Friday saying that Obama and running mate Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) hailed the pick, the internal talking points memo distributed to surrogates made it clear that Democrats plan to portray Palin as inexperienced and a politically expedient pick for McCain to mollify hardcore conservatives in his party.
“What does it say that he knuckled under to the right-wing of his party, who angrily threatened to veto McCain’s preferred candidates, Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge, for their pro-choice views?,” the memo reads. “What does it say that, in order to satisfy the right, he hastily selected someone he barely knew-and had only met once – to serve a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
This doesn’t say anything about going after her gender. It doesn’t say anything about foing after her family. In fact the memo is all about going after McCain.
Can you provide me an example of when the Obama people have gone after her gender, or made any sexists comments about her?
Shut up, talking mule troll.
We told you yesterday to go to the Obamablog on his website to a post made at 0102 AM. It was there for you to see. But you’re one of those see no evil, etc., for Oblahblah. Since you didn’t go there and see for yourself, you can go do your own research, half-pint, talking mule troll. You are nothing more than a useless waste of time and energy because you only come as a flamer.
Why do you always have to start with an insult? Can’t you express yourself and your views without ad hominem attacks?
Irrelevant. I gave you the information yesterday. You ignored it because you are a troll. It isn’t an ad hominem when you are acting exactly as I described you.
You will either check out what I gave you yesterday or you are, indeed, a bot, which is a particularly nasty type of troll. Your choice, Frankie.
Typical! You finally engage them in discussion and they run to the hills for cover.
They quickly post some inane remark on another blog and whine when they are insulted.
Thanks for the post Ferd.
Stop the hate:-)
What discussion? He cut-and-pasted an internal memo from the Obama campaign on how to porttay Palin. We’ve been talking about her qualifications and the wisdom of her selection all weekend. These trolls are so annoying.
You have made plenty of ad hominem attacks yourself while posting here Francis.
Take the lilly out of your ass. Its covered with the stink of your hypocrisy.
oh and i almost forgot!
Francis is a Troll, ignore him.
Francis,
We only insult you because you’re an ignorant dickhead whose opinion has as much value and an empty toilet paper tube.
You are a liar and a fool. We despise both.
So, dipshit, if you don’t like being insulted, go away. If you stay here, expect that we will tell you what we think of you and that sonofabitch you follow.
Clear enough?
francis — So glad I left the Democratic Party two months ago because I can’t picture you and I being in the same party. The looney left has taken over and it usually means The Dems will lose in a landslide.
>>> Why do you always have to start with an insult?
Because you’re a stupid cocksucker and an oxygen thief.
I simply can’t believe that the Democrats are going to be so stupid as to try and make an issue of Palin’s inexperience. The Republicans would absolutely LOVE to have expreience be the defining issue in this campaign, because their vice presidential nominee actually has considerably more actual executive experience than the Democrats’ presidential nominee!
Ultimately, people base 90+% of their vote on the presidential nominee. So please, Barry, let’s do make this an argument about who has the most experience! That plays right into McCain’s hands.
believe it, Dan.
I love that about them. They’re forgetting that their scare tactics are warning that she could become POTUS with no experience, as opposed to Obama, who has……..
!) rug burn from a limo ride
2) experience in speechmaking
3) a chaperone named “Joe”
Pick any of the above.
The truth is that Palin’s collar is bluer than Bidens. I think Biden is scared.
I’d rather go hunting with Palin than gambling with Biden
Didn’t you get the memo? Governor Palin has no experience. She was only a council person, Vice mayor, Mayor and Governor.
What does she know about governance?
Obama was a part-time state legislator (who had no idea that the black folk in his district were suffering because of a slumlord that he was friends with and helped funnel taxpayer money to) and a community organizer. Oh he also spent a good chunk of his time as a US Senator, first term, running for President. After he said, there is video I’ve seen it, he didn’t have enough experience for the job of President.
There was that pesky committee where he couldn’t find time to hold hearings. The one that has to do with actual foreign affairs.
But Palin? She has children! She won a beauty pageant! That other stuff she did during and after that?
Doesn’t count.
candymarl — Obama was in the Senate for only 143 days when he decided to run for the presidency — I doubt whether the has been in that chamber more than 1/2 dozen times since then. His committee held no hearings. When asked Obama replied indignantly — I’m running for President.
143 days – wonder which profession would qualify you to practise after 143 days?
When they send out a memo the day she gave her spech saying we don’t want a “hokey mom” as VP.
Bambi said, she’s a good Mother. Not good Gov, Mayor Commissioner, but Mother. What a “F”ing joke.
How the fuck would he know what kind of a mother she is????? Dumbass, Oh, he makes my blood boil! I cannot wait until he’s burnt toast! It will take a while to get the stench out of the house, but then we’ll be more careful next time! PUMAs will be watching!
Barry’s mom was a nightmare. He’s still trying to get through his issues. Michelle took her daughters to that crazy church, and they don’t give them Christmas presents.
>>> Barry’s mom was a nightmare. He’s still trying to get through his issues.
One wonders if someone had simply arranged a two week stay in a nice suite for her with Harrry Belafonte so that she could get her Coal-Burnin’ Thing on so many years ago, if we’d have all this foofarow in the public arena now.
You guys might know more about this… who do you contact at the National Organization of Women to get some justice around here?
Is NOW for all women or just the ones they designate as acceptable?
I am only trying to learn something here, not start a argument…
You we went round and round on this yesterday, do you just like to see the filth posted? Or do you not remember?
All you need to do is see what Obama’s media surrogates are saying at Dk, HP, MSNBC, CNN, and Air America.
There’s a great article at POLITICO.COM (I believe) outlining Obama’s strategy of blaming his staff or surrogates whenever he or his campaign goes off the deep end against his opponents.
I wonder what despicable name Samantha Powers will call Palin?
Also, does anyone have a video clip of Campbell Brown’s over-the-top reaction to Palin on Friday? If you do, please post it here. It’ll make you laugh—and cry!
Brown’s face distorted itself more than usual when she “reported” on McCain’s pick. She turned bright red with anger, and proceeded to yell at the Republican guest for this GOP VP choice.
There’s a great article at POLITICO.COM (I believe) outlining Obama’s strategy of blaming his staff or surrogates whenever he or his campaign goes off the deep end against his opponents.
Boy they sure take their time reporting the news over at Politico. They’re one of the worst of the MSM, but they’re all about as useless as an elevator in an outhouse. The Edwards scandal was dead and stinking by the time they got around to reporting it.
They don’t have any standards for barky. He is the Anointed One who is beyond the need for standards. They don’t question anything about him; they only obey.
How sad that “I Have A Scheme” 0Bama is the new standard for Martin Luther King, Jr.
It is indeed. King’s own shadow was more of a man than Barky will ever be.
why does every one who supports obama conveniently forget that Martin Luther King was a republican?
Oh, beebop – you just made me spit my drink on my keyboard! Stop it, stop it! LOL!
Yes, perhaps someone will finally get around to illuminating BHO’s lack of experience. Bring it on.
You can question all you want. We will then dismantle your illogical argument piece-by-piece until you have nothing left but a reason to have a hissy fit, bot.
Wonder why we still haven’t vetted Obama? I say until Obama turns over all his records Palin should be off limits or when O shows his than she’ll show hers strategy.
I’m sick of the free ride Obama’s been getting. He needs to PAY UP and NOW!
Oblahblah is the Anointed One and doesn’t have to prove anything. He resides during his off hours on Mt Olympus under the name of Obamacus. Francis the Talking Mule only pulls his chariot. The other bots feed him grapes.
lmao Ferd.
And Hera did smite Zeus a good one the night of the big frat party for kissing Obamacus’ feet.
Francis dear, feel free to attack her on her inexperience. I won’t call you sexist as long as you don’t call me racist when I attack Obama on his inexperience. I agree that Palin is inexperienced, but then that’s what I’ve been saying all along about Obama. It seems this year, experience doesn’t count for much.
You Obama supporters have been drilling it into our brains non-stop that “judgment” not “experience” is what matters to be POTUS. So please stop complaining about Palin’s inexperience. If you cared about that, you wouldn’t be supporting your darling Obama. I only have respect for those who are consistent.
Btw, I am greatly impressed by what Palin has done in her short political career. I have yet to be impressed by Obama’s accomplishments. I respect someone who stands up to corruption. Had Obama confronted corruption in his hometown Daley-machine Chicago, then I would respect him. Had he not flaked out on the bi-partisan immigration bill that he was working on with McCain in the Senate, then I would respect him. Instead, all I see in Obama is someone who gives great speeches and makes dreamy promises. I’m voting for POTUS, not Oscar nomination for fabulous stage-craft & oratory. Great speeches are marvelous, but I prefer a politician who is busy getting things done. Having both would be great, but Obama has yet to prove himself as a true reformer IMO.
Well said Freya!!!!!!!!!
Hillary was the embodiment of both!
Rise Hillary Rise!!
Hillary 2012!
Yup. Just like we were told we were racist, or Self haters since i’m black, for trying to find out information on obama. Check Mate. That move alone gives McCain the right to sit in the oval office. LOL.
That’s one of those statements that Hillary Supporters should and will remember in November…when we cast our vote for McCain/Palin…
Nearly directly quoting Obama’s national campaign chair Jesse Jackson, Jr. who offered that commentary before the Iowa primaries. The best part of Palin as the Republican VP is when Obama uses sexism, women will be reminded of the primaries and his attacks on Hillary. When Biden lobs sexist attacks on Palin, women will be reminded of Anita Hill. There is so much karma at work here.
Also, how perfect that Bush and Cheney will be in Louisiana responding to the hurricane instead of attending the Republican convention?
Also, how perfect that Bush and Cheney will be in Louisiana responding to the hurricane instead of attending the Republican convention?
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I think someone forgot to tell Bush and Cheney. They may want to stay out of Louisiana. Neither are real popular there.
feces only hears chants of hope and change.
what? jesse jackson has a son? whatcha all talkin’ about?
It means OJ got away with killing a white woman (and white man) and BO got away with being handed the nomination while the white woman earned it!
It’s because of OJ’s & BO’s race that one, won OJ his freedom, & BO the opportunity to be POTUS.
It is not the color of their skin we object to, it is the content of their character we don’t like. One is a double murderer, and the second an inept, and corrupt empty-suit!
Yeah right.
It’s because of OJ’s & BO’s race that one, won OJ his freedom, & BO the opportunity to be POTUS.
You’re right…comparing OJ to BO when they have NOTHING in common (well maube one thing), and then insinuating BO is where he is because he is black.
Yup, no racism in that statement.
At the same time, every post the last 3 days on NQ has been about why we should ignore everything about Sarah Palin’s record because she has a vagina.
Francis. You might want to read the Senators now scrubbed Senate web page where he said that without race he would be one more one term Senator? We didn’t say it about 0bama. HE SAID IT ABOUT HIMSELF.
Actually, Jesse Jackson, Jr. brought up O.J. Simpson in the Presidential campaign.
Obama’s National Campaign Co-Chair’s Jesse Jackson, Jr. said this to the Washington post about Hillary and Obama didn’t bat an eye:
Then Jesse Jackson Jr. is a racist, because it is his comment.
So is Obama is also racist and sexist for not condemning the statement his National Campaign Co-Chair made.
You may recall Geraldine Ferraro stepped down from Hillary’s campaign because of an alleged racist remark she made.
Obama didn’t bat an eye at Junior’s statement. Obama is racist and sexist.
I know a federal judge that often says what is good sauce for the goose is good sauce for the gander. With that in mind, I could say the same about Hillary. During a debate on MSNBC before the Texas primary/caucus, Tim Russert relayed a quote from a prominent Latina supporter of Hillary who said that Hispanics won’t vote for Obama because he is black. Hill just shrugged and said that’s just a historical fact. Hill didn’t admonish her supporters to not behave that way.
April 11, 2007 Obama Regarding Imus’ Comment:
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.” (Reference ABC News)
Further proof Obama is a hypocrite.
Slob–that’s a despicable lie!!!! HRC immediately condemned and rejected that suporters’ statement. As a Latina, I followed this story closely, for obvious reasons.
typo–i meant “supporter’s”
That is another lie, you obots can’t help yourself..take after the head BOT-Soetor. Clinton dennouced and futher stated that she didn’t need supporters like that. MORON
actually he can’t be racist. In order to have an ism you have to have to be ablity to oppress. however Bigot, a race batter, and prejudice, work just fine. However he can be called Sexist.
Does that “one thing” happen to be being implicated in murder? OJ had his day in court, the family of the slain choirmaster linked to Obama did not.
Now what?
You’re wrong Francis,
BO got the nomination because of his race! That is not insulting his race, it is saying BO is inept, corrupt and an empty suit.He never would have gotten the nomination with his lack of credentials had he been a white man.
If you can’t handle the truth don’t come to No Quarter.
I don’t vote color, sex, or sexual orientation. I vote for the person who I think according to my opinion would be the best leader. It was Hillary Clinton. Now, I won’t vote Obama, or McCain. Maybe Nader.
Obama and his surrogates bargained with his race for the nom. He’d said he could get Hillary’s supporters but she couldn’t get his. He has said he would energize the Democratic party by getting more blacks to become active in politics, register, get out and vote. All of this is reasonable and not racist, but he promised blacks would be angry if the nomination was “stolen” from him. Instead of observing tradition and deciding the nominee at the convention, he and his supporters accused Hillary of dividing the party by not dropping out. In fact, the party was already divided, otherwise he would have secured all of the pledged delegates he needed and won the nomination fairly. He did not, however, and used his race to intimidate weak superdelegates.
It means you lose.
It means Obama is racist and sexists.
Not me. The country, by not electing Hillary as President!
The Hussein Obamas are sexist, and they will deploy misogyny and sexism in the general just as they did in the primary.
Bring the sexism and misogyny on, Obama. Women are the majority, while AFrican-Americans only comprise 14% of the population. WE will show the Hussein Obamabots who really wields power in this society.
BRING IT ON. Obamabots vote for pigment, and I will vote for biological sex. This should be a fun election.
How Does Obama Attack a White Woman in the Post-OJ Era, means people are SENSITIVE to black men being AGGRESSIVE to white women since OJ chopped-up his ex wife (who was white), or do you remember? GREAT ANALOGY.
I guess one way to read it is How does Barry Murder Hillary Politically and get away with it. Simple answer cast the clintons as racists and monsters and people who will do anything to win. Denigrate them as Human Beings, as Democrats and tear down and disparage their legacy and then they can say all sorts of things and get away with it because the AA community will get fully behind him after the racist smear is thrown and no matter what evidence pops up they wont care, just like they did with OJ.
But I am sure that’s not what he meant. Just like calling clinton a Monster wasn’t what she really meant.
Just like calling Bill a racist wasn’t really what Uncle Jim meant.
Just like calling americans who cling to guns and religion a bunch of bigots wasnt really what Obummer meant.
Just like saying she would have to think very hard about supporting Clinton wasn’t really what Michelle meant.
Just like “tell those old bitches to stay home we don’t need them” wasn’t what Donna meant.
Just like “tell them to get over it, after all where else are they gonna go?” isn’t what Dean really meant.
Just like “God sent the hurricane to devastate the coast as a way to screw over the republicans and their convention and that there is proof that God is really on our side” isn’t what Fowler meant.
You know if the democratic leadership and its surrogates would just take obama’s balls out of their political mouths, they might not have so much difficulty speaking and we could all get what they really meant.
For a good comparison of the Unqualified Palin’s record against the supremely qualified Omessiah’s record click my name link to find out what i really meant.
or click here:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/
So think about it, would you rather have Palin a heartbeat away from the big red button? Or would you rather have Obummer – who “accidentally” voted by pressing the WRONG button 6 times, and intentionally voted PRESENT over 100 times.
Amen, Jeremiah and yet another excellent post. Bravo!
Standing ovation.
That should shut up the little shits for two minutes or so. That is how long their attention span lasts.
But on the night of Obama’s victory, Jesse Jr. had this to say to the Washington Post about the inadvisability of Obama going negative against Hillary Clinton: “The natural reminder here is O.J. [Simpson]—how does an African-American candidate attack a white woman?”
http://www.slate.com/id/2181356/
And they call HRC’s supporters the low information crowd …. right.
FWIW, the title strictly refers to Jesse Jackson Jr.’s statement as campaign manager. Since the campaign was successful in attacking Hillary, they obviously figured it out. It’s likely they’ll use the same tactics.
Republicans don’t eat their own. Obama couldn’t have pulled an OJ on HRC without the Democrats holding her arms and ganging up on her.
Republicans don’t eat their own. Obama couldn’t have pulled an OJ on HRC without the Democrats holding her arms and ganging up on her.
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Then what do you call what happened to John McCain in 2000 courtesy of Bush, Rove, Baker and company?
We are not in a primary now. The Republicans, Traditional Democrats and Independents will not put up with the discriminatory tactics that Obama used during the Democratic primary.
It is socially unacceptable to discriminate against women by words or actions. Just like it is socially unacceptable to discriminate against any other group of people, e.g., gays, blacks, people with handicaps.
Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogynist, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women
?!?!?!?!…Thats what.
Link Sarah`cuda to Bill Clinton and then call them racist and philanderers.
there he goes again, for the -nth time that it was not he but his henchmen got it wrong. It’s amazing how the media doesn’t call him on that. wonder why?
Hmm, she doesn’t sound so bad. Interesting.
“And of course as governor, she has had enormous responsibilities, none of which Senator Obama had. When she was in government, he was a community organizer. When she was taking tough positions against her own party, Senator Obama was voting present 130 times in the state legislature. On every tough issue, whatever it was, she was taking them on. That’s the kind of judgment that I’m confident that we need in Washington.” — John McCain
Today on Fox news Sunday.
Ouch!! Let the games begin!!
It was a great interview.
And personally, I think Palin will wipe the floor with Sen. Joe “Two-Drink minimum” Biden.
He can’t attack, because of Anita Hill
He can’t use the experience card, because of BHOs thin resume.
Joe “Two Drink Minimum” Biden… LOL! I love it. Here he is singing a song he wrote for Bitter Small-Town Americans. It made me laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
Palin was trying to get rid of CORRUPTION in Alaska, In Illinois Obama and his CORRUPT FRIENDS like Davis and Rezko were trying to INCREASE CORRUPTION. Obama even got Rezko to help him buy his Mansion, and this was in 2005 AFTER READING about 100 articles in the paper about the F.B.I. and REZKO.
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/
“Nicolle Wallace, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, said: “I think the public pretty much accepts the fact that they played pretty dirty and that sexism played a role in the primary.”
I’m glad to see this message coming out from the McCain campaign. As the radical women-hating left continues their sexist attacks, McCain can call them out on it — drawing the easy parallel to the treatment of Hillary.
It will drive the misogynist “progressives” further into a frenzy, while rallying decent women and men to Palin.
Hi,
Are you all aware of the disgusting post Alan Colmes placed on his blog and has since removed regarding Gov. Palin’s prenatal care – CAN YOU BELIEVE IT. This is what I wrote on my blog – I never thought that I would be calling Colmes a dirtbag ( or anyone else for that matter but what he wrote got under my skin).
Alan Colmes how low can you get? I am shocked that you would post such a dirtbag story on your site. How dare you question Gov. Palin’s prenatal care! Tell me Alan do you need the hits on your blog or are you hopeful you will get special invitations to Obama events. I don’t know how in the world Sean Hannity can sit next to you on Foxnews.com Maybe they ought to replace you! ! !
Fellow blogs Colmes has taken down the blog but it was there (take a look over at michellemalkin.com and I think we should write Foxnews.com and let them know what we think of this. Please don’t let it pass – write fox and let them know what you think of Colmes and his blog. I honestly never knew Alan Colmes was of this mean spirited nature! I am shocked. I am disgusted and I say to my fellow bloggers please write foxnews.com and let them know what you think of this dirtbag!
Isn’t it educational to see how the democratic party works. Yesterday, I read reports over on noquarter.com about how Camp Obama is attacking Palin in a very sneaky, cowardly way. I find it so amusing that the Democratic Party is now the party of the rich and the GOP is the part of the average, hard-working American Citizen. I will not vote for Obama and I hate the dirt that surrounds his camp. Dirtbags! My mind is finally made-up Nobama!
Colmes has made a comment no less disparaging than Don Imus’s “Nappy headed Ho’s.” This statement is as inflammatory as the bigoted crap which has gotten people like Jimmy the Greek (Fired from CBS for saying Blacks were better athletes because of slave breeding,) or Peter Aliss, (Fired for saying that women had a tougher time hitting a golf ball because of their breasts,) {this position is shared by two of my golfing daughters.}
The point is that if Colmes doesn’t get at least suspended from FOX for this comment, that womens’ rights will Really be thrown backwards.
This is impermissible.
This is a fabulous post.
Here are the REAL facts about the Trooper.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/
The guy tasered a 10 yr old and threatened to shoot her father.
I saw this somewhere else:
The Left ought to ask themselves if defending domestic violence and child abuse is the hill they REALLY want to die on.
Talk about tone deaf! They’ve going to make her look like Working Girl and Dirty Harry rolled into one. Throw in a little Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and Joan of Arc and she’s about to become the most popular Republican since Ronald Reagan.
bcc,
zacktly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUqXptaQ_2M
Frankly I see alot of resemblance between Obama and OJ- they both think they can do and say anything against a woman and get away with it. Thanks for pointing that out!
Hillary 08, If not,
McCain/Palin 08
Oh and they both have big egos too and alot of cult-like followers.
They’ve both hidden behind a lot of lawyers.
They both don’t respect women.
Sadly, but that’s is indeed the case. He has a gross of the slimiest POS’s, starting with Axeldick, to fight off the truth and its seekers.
Excellent! I wrote on this too – reminded me a lot of W style
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/blame-clintonor-your-staffor-the-voters/
Given that the Obama campaign has attacked Palin’s pregnancy and spread rumors about it, some of you might be interested in this blog entry which amounts to eyewitness testimony from a reliable source. The author of the blog is a young woman who had the chance to meet Palin in the airport and was posted back on April 27, 2008. She writes:
“Of course I had to check out the “Hottest Governor in the US” and quickly turned to see her pregnant (she has since had her baby) with bags and daughter in tote. Then it struck me as odd. Why is the Governor of Alaska in the airport and preparing to get onto my commercial flight?”
http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944
Obama’s campaign has not spread these rumors. They have been going around Alaska for months.
And yes, this is a NON-issue.
0102AM yesterday on the obamablog on the Oblahblah website.
Pants on fire.
Wrong. The Obama campaign did spread this sexist smear.
francis.
Pleae turn around.
It seems you are talking out of your ass.
You might have better luck if you used the orifice on the other end of your pod.
God damn you’re funny
Question: How does Obama attack a white woman in the post-OJ era?
Answer: He uses idiots like P. Diddy to pose irrelevant questions about how many blacks live in Alaska. (See the video below.)
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1764145077
Trolls, don’t bother posting “Obama denounced Diddy.” Obama denounces lots of people who were his former friends, mentors, and/or associates.
I’m waiting for Oblahblah to denounce himself accidentally since he’s having to do so much denouncing. It’s sort of like lying–you never know which lie you told to whom and when you told it, etc.
How many blacks live in Alaska?
Hard working blacks, their numbers would astound the idiotic worthless Diddy, societal parasite.
Im still trying to figure out why ” How many blacks are there in Alaska” has to do with anything. But what can you expect from someone who changes his name like Obama changes his mind.
I don’t know how many there are, but they showed one black man on ABC and he was saying that she is everyone’s mother in Alaska and what a terrific VP she will make. That’s all I heard, but he was one happy camper.
McCain/Palin
People you want to live next door to.
P. Diddy has a Messiah Complex just like Obama. He calls himself HOVA.
Is that worthy question?
Or should I ask how many white people live in Harlem…
I know one that setup show there, but that dooesn’t account for much…does it?
Dumb thing.
How many Hispanics and Asians live in Chicago?
When the 2000 Census showed more Hispanics and Asians were moving into Chicago but the number of African Americans were declining, he made this statement to the Chicago Defender newspaper:
“While everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking African-American seats.”
A lot of brown people live in Alaska though.
Wait what?
There are no black people in alaska?
Really?
Come on, this is a political blog. Sean hopium Puffin Squat Diddy is about as qualified to talk about politics as
Obamafrancis.I mean the man’s singular claim to fame anymore is Making bad boy and girl bands.
He is making the straight to dvd version of Menudo.
This is not someone you want to hold up even as a role model for morons. Morons have better role models.
Seriously, Sean…puff Diddy…Combs….haha…wasnt he hanging out with J. Lo at one point?
If that doesn’t impune your character i don’t know what does.
Music industry hack goes political…declares blacks non existant in Alaska…Now those are the new politics we need in this country.
Maybe he should hook up with Farrakhan and his New Age Numberology to go on a tour.
You should check out his early days at UPTOWN MUSIC, when he was Andre Harrell’s intern. Monica had nothing on him……..
I did notice his fondness for mesh in his Sean John line was conspicuous to say the least.
Who asked the question – was it P, P Diddy, Diddy, D, PD, Dis, Dat or D’Other?
I heard Roland Martin talking on a talk show about hIllary voters. And he was saying they need to shut up. He thinks we want attention. But then another caller from NY said he was a black man and was mad at Roland. He called Roland a moron and said hIlalry Voters have a right to be upset because she got more votes than Obama. But here is the thing, I am not sure which talk show I was listening to. I am trying to get the transcript. It may have been Dennis Prager show.
If anyone heard it, please let me know what talk show it was.
Roland “I Dress like a Pimp” Martin has his own talk show. It’s broacast from Chicago on WVON.
Roland Martin is a waste of 0xygen.
Despicable little toad with no neck.
I wont waste my time even thinking about what he says.
Everytime he opens his mouth i hear a toilet flushing.
Read Politco.com, Bambi said she was a good mother. Now that’s a code word that has been used against professional for years. Not that your a good executive, but a good Mom. I actually had a boss write that in a evaluation.
Next time Sarah Palin is asked a question – any question – about Obama she should say: “Let me just say first that I thank Senator Obama for his kind comments on my performance as a mother. I would like at this time to return the compliment and reassure Senator Obama that I have heard nothing but praise for his performance as a father.”
And he hasn’t stopped screwin’ people since…
She is certainly one candidate who will give Obama and team heartburns. They haven’t quite figured that out yet. With Gustav in the headlines for about a week; McCain & Palin exhibiting sincere concern and the republican party empathy by altering its convention program, it looks like indigestion time for the Obama camp. And I couldn’t be more pleased.
I’ve read a lot of shit on this site, but comparing Barack Obama to OJ? OMFG!!!
Apparently the NQ cesspool has now fully embraced the racist meme.
I have no illusions about convincing any of you. At least the people on sites like Stromfront admit they are racists. No one here has the guts to admit that…but they are more than content with launching racists attacks. BO compares to OJ? Give me a fuckin break!!!
Enjoy this den of hate you’ve created, Larry. Enjoy your newly crownd beauty queen. Now I’m going back to the reality-based world. While the rest of you self-stimulate on here, I’m going to be canvassing and working my ass off for Obama from now until November!
I think in the years to come many of you will be ashamed of what you’ve said/done about Obama. But I’ve come to the conclusion you cannot be convinced by November…you will simply have to be overcome.
Captain, no signs of intelligent life here.
Francis Out.
Obama/Biden 08
Fran-Arse!
Mission Accomplished.
But if you come back, I’ll wait for your esteemed position on health care.
See that’s how you stop the hate!
Donna,
The Talkin’ Mule isn’t going anywhere. The douche is probably lurking around right now, hoping someone will say they miss him. well, we all miss him. Time and time again. This is the fault of staying away from the range too much.
Remember, you must inhale, let out half slowly, match your heartbeat to your hand and just … touch
Mule is a delicacy in many Third World Countries!
lol FRANCASS!
keep your promise and don’t come back under a different moniker. we all will know you when we see you.
he will be back.
unfortunately.
Just like a bad case of athletes foot.
Or like a herpes flare up
Fast acting Actin calling Francis.
Another Jedi mind trick performed on Francis.
Hey Francis…don’t forget to investigate LS allegations…find out if they are true??? You don’t want for that incident to blow-up in October???
SO LONG POD PERSON!
Dont let the Unity Door hit you in the ass on your way out you hateful little troll.
You have pestered and annoyed people on this site long enough.
You have spent weeks disparaging Clinton and her supporters and frankly you suck.
You are a tool and your candidate is a fraudulant POS.
Thank goodness you finally have decided to leave.
You will not be missed.
Ditto,,funny
Take care Francis. You’ve taken a lot from the folks here. I’ve concluded this is just a pro-McCain site and not so much a pro-Hillary site. Thus, I’ll just treat most of these folks as the Republicans they are. I am going to take time off of here, just to savor my return after the elections.
Loser
Oh Nice another POS Troll who insulted Hillary and her supporters non stop declares he is leaving too!
My God its like Christmas on this thread today.
So long Obutthead. Glad to see your pod personage leave as well.
You contributed nothing to the discussion other than sexism ageism and race baiting form the many many trollish posts you delivered from your parents basement.
Glad to see you go.
Camp Koolaid —-> That a way
now make haste before they run out of koolaid.
BEGONE TROLL!
and unlike your shitty candidate, try and keep your word and don’t come back until after the election so we can all go splish splash splish splash as we swim in the pools of your salty tears.
Francis is going back to Mom’s basement to steam the pages of last month’s HUSTLER apart.
shift change in Gaza
Is this the change we’ve been waiting for?
Or maybe it was francis’ turn with bebe the village goat
Pants on fire, liar.
So long Francois from Tallahassee.
No, Franc-ass. The cesspool is what the Swamp Thing Barry crawled out from. Called the Combine, aka, the Chicago Machine.
You bots sicken me. Stoopit. Sexist. Slime.
Barry should be in jail. Maybe after his historical, landslide defeat to McCain/Palin…they’ll lock up his ego and his sorry ass next to Resko. Obama is repulsive.
PUMA
Hillary ‘08
or McCain/Palin
Well, it was JJJr who started it, duh.
Francis, you really should have that sound byte checked…..
This racist bullshit is really getting old. I’ve personally and single handedly screwed more black guys than FEMA, and all with a smile. I resent your juvenile and outdated implication.
Obama’s problem with me is NOT that he’s black. It’s that he’s green. Green, like inexperienced, wet behind the ears, totally without any gravitas, nothing more than slick packaging.
I have to work today on this beautiful holiday weekend. What’s your excuse. Why are you not out enjoying this wonderful day? Don’t you know that there is not one person on this site that is going to be converted by you? We made our minds up a long time ago, probably while you were working on your term paper. We evaluated the canidates doing the primary and choose who we would support. I think a lot of us would want to support the Democrate nominee had he not been such a fraud. This is one of the best Marketing Campaigns in American history and I hope it will go down as that and not as the least experience person in American history being elected POTUS. These times are too serious for someone of his experience. I am going to vote the down ticket, but I love my country too much to put it in the hands of this P/T state senator.
Now go out and play, better yet go spread the word about you canidate. We really don’t want to hear it here.
You should steer your complaint to Jesse Jackson Jr. who first made the analogy.
Did she go there? i mean did she really just say enjoy your beauty queen? She did not say what I think she said? Cause I know good and well someone who voted to put an unqualified unknown candidate on the top of a democratic ticket and not a more qualified white woman, did not just call people ignorant.
Our nation has gone bankrupt, and her solution is a political hack, who on his states Senate, that allowed his friends to use the Illnois treasury as an ATM machine, much like bush did in iraq. and she calls us stupid. Oh hell to the nah.
I suggest you check your own IQ be for you try to dis someone. Because voting for obama over a more qualified person when our country is in big trouble shows evidence of a less than brilliant judgement.
And if it wasn’t for a few hillary supporters you would run our country a aground, for hope and change. My grand mother is 80 something years old paying outrages prices for medication, hillary clinton could have helped solve thatp roblem, my twenty year old cousin has a new born, and no job, and will I agree she should have made better choices Hillary could have helped her immensely. But i will not put in office a person who I know has a history of hiring people who would put people like my grandmother and my cousin and her baby in low incoming houses with no heat, and nix my income through taxes so i can’t even help them out financially.
Forbes reported obama will increase government spending by 1 trillion dollars, which i would gladly pay if were hillary clinton, but i will not vote for a man who gave Tony rezko 14 million dollars of state money, to build houses, when he knew rezko had a gambling addiction, and that he use cheap building material and throw away the rest. People like you tick me off. YOu are no different than some evangelicals that think people skip off to have abortions sing oh what beautiful morning and disrespect the fact that these individuals that have to make heart rending decisions. I hate the position you put me in, but i will do what i have to do to make sure America has a viable future. GO and vote for obama that’s your right, but i will not have a person who is making a mind numbing stupid choice to call me ignorant.
Yes we can!!!!!! Yea!!
Francis gets all pissy about the OJ comment like we made it first. It was JJ JR.
I think that in the “years to come”,Francis, nobody will know who Barack Obama is.
We have made a ruckus that the world is tuning in to people, now that we have their ear what will we do for women and women’s rights?
Voting against misogyny will be good for women.
It strikes a blow to the misogyny that is the Democratic party. The world is watching and if we do not vote “for Palin” (more to the point against the Dems) as a protest of the unchecked misogyny, [B]we will have wasted a prime opportunity to make a statement about women’s power to the world.[/B]
Are women going to buy into the idea that reproductive choice is our only issue? Are we only baby making machines? Or do we all have to go out and earn a living, and try to fight for respect in the workforce?
After all the fighting we have done over the years, to NOT vote against misogyny will render toothless any future arguement we may have for generations.
It’s not about issues, it’s about respect and standing up for myself. It’s not about the Republicans v. Democrats, it’s about women standing together and proving a point, that we are powerful. [B]If we don’t speak out now, they will know we won’t fight for anything, that we will in fact sit down and shut up.[/B]
Good comment.
Obama is certainly a fraud and his followers hoodwinked and bamboozled, but the OJ comparison needs some clarification.
Edit: more so a reference than comparison. Nevertheless…
Barack Obambi accomplishments pale in comparison to what Palin has done so far!!
Palin’s Gas Pipeline Isn’t Hot Air
By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, August 15, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Energy: As congressional Democrats dither on a vote for oil drilling, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has pushed through a gas pipeline project to bring new supply and price relief to the lower 48.
On Aug. 1, the same day the call for a vote on drilling began on the House floor, the Alaska state Senate approved a package of measures to license a new natural gas pipeline. House Bill 3001 lets Palin award the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act license to TransCanada Alaska, a pipeline builder that cast a winning bid of five.
The legislature had been trying for 30 years to authorize something like this and, up until now, had blown it. Palin got it through. Getting it off the ground, the state says, will be the biggest construction project in U.S. history.
Palin considers the $26 billion project her biggest accomplishment as governor. “It was not easy,” she told IBD. “Alaska has been hoping and dreaming for a natural gas pipeline for decades. What it took was getting off the dime and creating a competitive market in Alaska.”
The 1,715-mile gas line would stretch from Alaska’s North Slope to Fairbanks and down to Alberta, Canada. Then it would take existing gas lines to Idaho. In 10 years, Palin says, the lower 48 states would receive 4.5 million cubic feet of natural gas a day. By 2030, according to Energy Department estimates, Alaska’s annual natgas production would quintuple to 2 trillion cubic feet.
Minus a pipeline, Alaska’s abundant gas largely ends up pumped back into the ground to be used to pressurize oil fields and aid in extraction. With oil production in Alaska’s Prudhoe Bay region declining and Congress continuing to drag its feet on new oil drilling, one of the few things Alaska can do is sell some of the gas now.
The new supply could bring price relief to anyone who uses home heating, electricity, farm fertilizers or manufactured goods in the U.S. “Not only is this economical for all players involved; it’s wildly needed,” said Palin.
The pipeline does spark controversy. Two of Alaska’s biggest three oil producers, BP and ConocoPhillips, think the state is too involved. They are working on a gas line project of their own called Denali.
At first glance, it would seem the more gas lines, the merrier. But neither Palin nor BP/ConocoPhillips thinks more than one multibillion dollar gas line will be profitable, based on what’s known of Alaska’s resources. So both sides think the projects may eventually merge.
BP/Conoco argues that its gas line will be more efficient, but Palin’s project has something a little different — political viability, something that could smooth the path to production at a time when activist lawsuits and protests gum up production as badly as Congress does.
Although a package of state goodies demanded by various constituencies could add costs, it also could be a trade-off to actually getting the project off the ground.
Palin justified it this way: “We wanted this in a competitive environment and asked companies what they could offer Alaska. Alaska is going to lay down the law (and) say, ‘If you want to build this line, here is what Alaska must have: protection for the environment, in-state use of resources, jobs for Alaskans.’ “
The job isn’t done, but Palin isn’t going on vacation.
“We still have so much to do — to break ground, to build,” she said. “We’ll keep ramping up oil production, educating Congress to allow ANWR to be tapped and to prove we can ethically and responsibly drill so Alaska can produce for everyone. Alaska should be the head, not the tail, to the energy solution.”
Small wonder, then, that Alaska has one popular governor. If only congressional Democrats could also get off the dime.
International Women’s Day Clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agP0W_kdpgw
GLOBAL CALL INTO ACTION AGAINST POVERTY
TOGETHER FOR EQUALITY
Feminist Task Force
“Gender Equality to End Poverty”
Campaigning for gender equality and women’s empowerment in a world where 70% of the world’s poor are women. 1 in 3 women are a survivor of gender-based violence. 1/2 of the 110 million children not in school are girls. 90% of sweatshop workers are women. We demanded to be heard at the World Social Forum in Nairobi on International Women’s Day on the International Day for the Eradication of Poverty. Men and women stood up and spoke out calling on governments around the world to invest in women and girls, to commit to gender justice and to exceed the Millennium Development Goals. We held women’s tribunals on poverty in Peru and India. We spoke out at the UN in New York, in Europe, in Africa, in Asia, in the Middle East, in South America… Through music, through song, on the streets, we stood up, raised our voices, signed our names, wore the white band… Join us in 2008 to demand equality for all women and girls. End the feminisation of poverty. Change starts with you…
http://www.whiteband.org/
……………………………………….
We witnessed the relentless attacks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8 on candidate Hillary Clinton based on the fact that she was a woman and not that she wasn’t qualified or on policy issues. She gave years of her life to public service to defend those that were defenseless, especially children throughout the world and for the protection of ‘Human Rights’.
Hillary Clinton made us aware that; “Every women deserves the chance to realize her own God given potential. But we must recognize that women will never gain full dignity until their human rights are respected and protected. There is one message that echoes forth from this conference. Let it be, that Human Rights are Women’s Rights and Women’s Rights are Human Rights once and for all. And among those rights, are the right to speak freely and the right to be heard. Women must enjoy the rights to participate fully in the social and political lives of their countries if we want freedom and democracy to thrive and endure.” UN Women’s Conference in Beijing in Sept. 5, 1995.
Civil Rights are also for the protection of women in the US. Speak up when Sarah Palin is attacked (or her children) merely for being a woman and not on an issue. Defend a woman’s right to compete in the political process in the United States of America free from misogyny/sexism NOW!
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!
Two great interviews with Sara Palin. I am really liking her:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837536,00.html?iid=sphere-inline-bottom
sarah palin time interview
phone interview with sara palin
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/130086
OBAMA IS TOAST!!!!!
oh shit, is that racist too? I mean, toast is dark and if you burn it, it gets black, so should I not say that since obi is so sensitive about skin color, moreso than he is about policy or ethics? I know he said his campaign transcended race, but he sure does get thin skinned (shit, is that racist in any way? It has to do with skin) about anything that could be construed in any way, shape or form as racist even when it’s not. Damn, should I change my font color, will black type bother him? OMG, I’m such a horrible racist and I never even knew it. I’m so ashamed of by black font, what can I do!?!? :::wringing hands::: ACCCKKK could wringing my hands be construed as racist in any way?? I don’t know!!!! DAMN ME AND MY RACISM!!! I never realized that fighting against racism for 38 years was to no avail and it was ME who was the problem all this time!!!
:::shift back to reality:::
Screw it, I’m not a racist. I know I’m not and he won’t make me one.
OBAMA IS TOAST!!!
Comment by Francis | 2008-08-31 15:32:08
So we are not allowed to question Sarah Palin fitness for the job because she’s a woman?
That sounds fair Francis since no one is alowed to question BO fitness since he is AA.
One more thing Fancis…why are Rezko, Ayers, & Wright not speaking out in support of BO? They are well known figures in todays political scene and I am sure they can help him be elected president.
Francis has left the building. According to his last trollish attempt at posting he is leaving never to come back.
You will have to just live with the mystery of that question.
Don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out, Francis.!
How?
By allowing Alaskan republicans to do it for them.
Palin is an idiotic pick and an insult to all accomplished women
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
“Alaska State Senate President Lyda Green (R): “She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?” (Green is from Palin’s home town of Wasilla.)
Alaska House Speaker John Harris (R): “She’s old enough. She’s a U.S. citizen.”
Alaska Democratic Party Chair Patti Higgins: “In this very competitive election for them to go pick somebody who is … under a cloud of suspicion, who is under investigation for abuse of power. It just sounds like a pretty slow start to me. We need a vice president who can step in if, God forbid, something happened to John McCain. I don’t think she’s someone who is ready for that 3 a.m. phone call.”
Randy Ruedrich, Alaska Republican Party Chair: Not giving interviews.
Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg: “a mixed set of emotions, kind of an odd sense of Alaska nationalism or pride. This is like watching a moon landing or something. It’s just something you don’t expect to see very often. It’s wonderful. It was an emotional thing to see the governor walk out with her family and I say, wow, I work for her.”
McHugh Pierre, Alaska Republican Party Spokesman: “She brings her voice of new energy and change. And she knows Alaska.”
Indicted Alaska Sr. Senator Ted Stevens (R): “it’s a great day for the nation and Alaskans.”
Andrew Halcro, local blogger who ran against Palin for governor: “This shocking choice says more about McCain’s desperation than it does about Palin’s qualifications”.
and my favorite…
Alaska State Representative Mike Doogan (D): “Either Sarah Palin has talents and skills we were not aware of”, or “John McCain fell down and hit his head”. He also called the prospect of Palin potentially needing to take over as President”pretty scary.””
I guess then, by definition, you’re not insulted.
Francis is that you?
Francis had gender re-assignment?
excuse me. I am an accomplished woman with advanced degrees and she is not an insult to me. She is tough, gutsy, a leader, governor, mother (the toughest of all jobs (HRC, 8/28/08), maverick, principled woman.
Do I agree with her 100%? No. Can she deliver? Obviously.
eat it, troll.
Ditto, Dr. Kate. What I find interesting is how the debate about McCain’s VP choice has been from the outset a debate about Palin vs. Obama, instead of Palin vs. Biden! I don’t recall another election where a presidential nominee was campaigning against his opponent’s VP. It’s pretty remarkable, and says a lot about Obama’s insecurity over his own qualifications and nomination. Furthermore, it reconfirms that Obama’s misogynistic strategy is his default mode.
Obama is a disgrace to black people? Your point?
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Hillgirl’s got ‘em LOL
All the people mentioned in that article have an ax to grind because she kicked them in the ass for being GOP fat cats in Alaska by taking bribes from oil companies.
She has made many enemies in Alaska by being a reformer. She is the Alaskan Joan of Arc as someone recently said.
Whenever an Obama surrogate hits at Palin, McCain should go right at Obama. Again and again. When Obama repudiates his surrogates, McCain should talk about his lack of leadership skills – point out that he’s always chastising his players but there’s no change in their behavior.
Comment by hells kitchen | 2008-08-31 17:00:56
Whenever an Obama surrogate hits at Palin,……
Whenever an Obama surrogate hits Palin we will be reminded once again how Obambi surrogates have hit Hillary over and over and over and over, which in turn gave us PUMA
. So go ahead Obambi surrogates keep hitting Palin, you only weaken yourselves.
PUMA2 rises ……… bring it on!
Palin favored Obama?
“efore she was running against him, Sarah Palin—the governor of Alaska and now the Republican candidate for Vice-President of the United States—thought it was pretty neat that Barack Obama was edging ahead of John McCain in her usually solidly red state. After all, she said, Obama’s campaign was using the same sort of language that she had in her gubernatorial race. “The theme of our campaign was ‘new energy,’ ” she said recently. “It was no more status quo, no more politics as usual, it was all about change. So then to see that Obama—literally, part of his campaign uses those themes, even, new energy, change, all that, I think, O.K., well, we were a little bit ahead on that.” She also noted, “Something’s kind of changing here in Alaska, too, for being such a red state on the Presidential level. Obama’s doing just fine in polls up here, which is kind of wigging people out, because they’re saying, ‘This hasn’t happened for decades that in polls the D’ ”—the Democratic candidate—“ ‘is doing just fine.’ To me, that’s indicative, too. It’s the no-more-status-quo, it’s change.”
This was two weeks ago, at the statehouse in Juneau. After persistent reports, in July, that Palin was on McCain’s short list of potential running mates, her name had faded back into obscurity. Nobody in Alaska seemed to take her seriously as a national prospect, and she had shrugged the whole thing off on television, telling CNBC’s Larry Kudlow that, before considering the job, she would want to know “what is it, exactly, that the V.P. does every day.” Now, at the statehouse, she sat, unattended by aides, curled up in a cardigan, and explained that what she had done every day since becoming governor was to stick her thumb in the eye of Alaska’s Republican Party establishment. “The G.O.P. leader of the state—we haven’t spoken since I got elected,” she said.
She went on, “I guess if you take the individual issues, two that I believe would be benchmarks showing whether you’re a hard-core Republican conservative or not, would be: I’m a lifetime member of the N.R.A.—but this is Alaska, who isn’t?
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But she said she recognized that “the Democrats also preach individual freedoms and individual rights, capitalism, free market, let-it-do-its-thing-best, let people keep as much of their money that they earn as possible. And when it comes to, like, the Party machine, no one will accuse me of being partisan.”
So the possibility that Obama might win Alaska did not worry Palin: “Turning maybe purple in the state means, to me, it’s more independent, it’s not the obsessive partisanship that gets in the way of doing what’s right for this state, and I think on a national level that’s what we’re gonna see.” ”
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/09/08/080908ta_talk_gourevitch?printable=true
You’re one of those all-over-the-road trolls or else you must be one of those who argues with herself
How so.
Both posts make the point that Palin was an idiotic pick for McCain to make and apparently wasn’t vetted at all
She was vetted. It was Barky who didn’t even get a once over. This vetting issue is one the democrats need to stay strictly away from if they even want to make the GE close. So I rather hope they do try to make this an issue.
Is she an idiotic choice because she’s a Republican?
Since you aren’t privy to the McCain campaign, you don’t know how she was vetted.
Unlike the Democrats this year, the Republicans vet their candidates.
So we thought
“The investigator appointed by the state legislature began trying to arrange a time to depose Gov. Palin last week — in other words, in the final days before her selection.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211769.php
She helped defeat Ted Steven’s Bridge to Nowhere. Damned straight she’s got enemies on both sides.
yea but she lied about it– in her acceptance speech no less:
Perhaps the brain was still a little fuzzy from the shock of McCain’s new VP pick, Alaska’s own governor Sarah Palin. Perhaps it was still stuck in the endless loop of wondering – why? why? why? Whatever the reason, it took more than 24 hours for Palin’s first big untruth to register with me.
Today, while I watched her hop out of the “Straight Talk Express” bus, and give the second reading of her acceptance speech, one of my fellow viewers said, “You know, I don’t remember her opposing the Bridge.” And it hit me. I don’t remember that either. A quick double-check with the third member of our watch party confirmed our confusion. We all live here. We all watch the news, read the paper, and pay attention to the local political circus, but none of us connected Sarah with her claims of rebuffing the controversial earmark. If you weren’t watching, here’s the quote from her speech:
“I championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. In fact, I told Congress — I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere. ‘If our state wanted a bridge’, I said, ‘we’d build it ourselves’.
Reeeeally.
Check out these entries from the Ketchikan Daily News:
“People across the nation struggle with the idea of building a bridge because they’ve been under these misperceptions about the bridge and the purpose,’ said Palin, who described the link as the Ketchikan area’s potential for expansion and growth.
Palin said Alaska’s congressional delegation worked hard to obtain funding for the bridge and that she ‘would not stand in the way of the progress toward that bridge’.
8-8-06
‘We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that’s so negative,’ Palin said.”
Ketchikan Daily News 9-28-06
Alaska Senator Ted Stevens (currently under indictment) and Representative Don Young (currently under investigation) were the bridge’s two biggest proponents. But they were unable to convince Congress to fund the infamous bridge from Ketchikan to Gravina Island at the levels it had hoped. Now, instead of Alaska paying $160 million, the cost to Alaska skyrocketed to $349 million.
After federal funding had been slashed, Palin was asked if she was still in support of funding the project. She said:
Yes. I would like to see Alaska’s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now–while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.
Well that assistance never materialized, and Alaska’s congressional powerhouse is tumbling like a house of cards. Senior Senator Ted Stevens is under indictment on seven felony counts. Representative Don Young is under investigation and has spent more than a million dollars of his campaign fund on legal fees…and he hasn’t even been indicted yet. And although Stevens just won his primary bid handily, Young is hanging on by his fingernails while a recount is performed to determine the winner of his contest. His challenger? Sean Parnell, Palin’s Lt. Governor and also the head of the Division of Elections that is in charge of recounting the votes for his own race. You can’t make this stuff up. The third member of the delegation, Lisa Murkowski, was appointed to the U.S. Senate seat by her own father, Senator Frank Murkowski who left the senate to become the governor that Sarah Palin defeated in the 2006 primary. (Are you keeping up with me?) I could keep going, but those are the highlights.
So, if Congress had gone along and coughed up what Stevens and Young had asked for, guess what….that bridge to nowhere would have become a reality during the Palin administration. She supported the bridge every step of the way…until the funding was cut. So we decided to say, “Thanks, but no thanks. If we want a bridge we’ll build it ourselves?!” Is that like the failed earmark version of “You can’t fire me….I quit!”
The fact that “Thanks, but no thanks” was the money line for her debut as Vice Presidential candidate, and yet is a total fabrication, makes the mind reel. Is there no fact checker on McCain’s staff?
Today, Palin called in to a local radio program, and bubbled, “This is so amazeen!” Then she said that her children and she had only learned of her selection the day before the announcement was made. I think of the extensive vetting process that the Democratic VP candidates went through. Evan Bayh said that he was grilled extensively about skeletons in the closet, and even whether any of his kids had a Facebook or MySpace page that might come back to haunt him.
Apparently the Republicans don’t worry about such things. With all the potential scandals and skeletons about to emerge from the Palin closet, (troopergate, babygate, bridgegate) we in Alaska are sitting here listening to the clock tick and wondering when it will all hit the fan.
But many Alaskans are just giddy over the whole thing. The local sportscaster, after reporting on the high school basketball scores, said, “You know Sarah Palin used to be a sportscaster….and she’s the Vice Presidential candidate. So, I think I wanna do that…yeah.” (eyeroll) And one woman who was interviewed said she was totally in support of Palin because, “This is really going to put Alaska on the map. Now people are going to find out what we’re really all about.”
Because this is what we’re looking for in the next Vice President. We want Alaska to be on the map. And not in that little box in the South Pacific you guys always stuff us in. This election is about Alaska’s road to legitimacy! Sar-ah Sar-ah Sar-ah! (banging head on desk and going to bed)
UPDATE:
Looks like the Anchorage Daily News is now reporting this. Read HERE. Note to outsiders: the tongue-in-cheek reference Palin makes to herself as “Valley Trash” demonstrates a local ‘regional slur’, as it were. Former State Senate president Ben Stevens (son of indicted Senator Ted Stevens, and currently under investigation himself) called what he perceived to be the under-educated redneck, rural population of the Mat-Su Valley where Sarah Palin is from, “Valley Trash”.
http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html
Obama lied in most of his on autobiography. Once again your point. even McCain has congratulated mr obama, bill clinton contrary to popular belief has called obama impressive. however running around talking about Palin not being vetted is as stupid as calling people on this board unintelligent. You put someone who lies on a continuous basis with no political expensive at the top of a ticket, and you have nerve to talk about Mccain’s Judgement. It’s amazing what big fat hypocrites Americans have become. i mean it wasn’t until after Hillary and bill made their speech that obama even touched on the specific issues he would address. we were just supposed to believe he was miraculously will cool our planet, and the seas will ebb but he never says how he’s going to do it. he supports using ethanol for fuel, but that will cause food prices to go up, and people are alreaady finding it hard to feed themselves. KitKat *no nuget, no caramel, no nuts, goes for $0.99 at your local gas station. A main sweetner in all candy and anything sweet is corn syrup. If a kitKat cost that much now, how much will the price shoot up should obama have his way? It’s amazing how his supporters can come on line and bash people that have the good sense not to vote for him. And everyone on here you do have good sense. whether you are a leader, a follwer, or someone who get’s out of the way, obama is a bad choice. I’m impressed with the follwers, it nice to know there are a few people who only follow behind the qualified, and when someone isn’t going in the direction they want to go they follow someone else, they know who is and isn’t a qualified leader.
Since I get out of, the way here’s what i know. Mccain did not orginally support MLK day, but when he found out there might be problems in his state if he voted against it, so he voted for it and told his republican buddies they were supid if they didn’t do it as well. Obama and Michelle live in a big house, that tony Rezko help them buy so obama would continue to looke the other way as he allow obama’s poorer constituents to live in a housing with no heat in one of the coldest winters in chicago history. mccain doesn’t like what the dixie chicks said about bush, but grilled a Clear channel executive for banning their songs on all their radio stations, obama and the DNC disregard the fact that more people voted for hillary than him, and took away her deligates and give them to obama, and then turned around and made her and bill Bark like obediant dogs for their political careers to futher humiliate them. Yeah john mccain has poor judgement…what ever.
more Republican support
“I’ve voted a straight Republican ticket every year of my life since 1975, when I first came of voting age, but I was stunned and horrified by McCain’s choice of Palin. I simply cannot even consider voting for McCain after this choice, which speaks loudly of his own selfishness and fundamental frivolousness.
So I was shocked when I turned to the conservative blogs looking for others who shared my dismay and found a celebration going on. They really honestly believe that Palin’s “inexperience” and Obama’s “inexperience” are equivalent. I have had no luck at all in the past 24 hours trying to explain that Obama is quite obviously an impressive man (with whom I disagree on almost every major issue) with extraordinary qualities of organization, discipline and leadership. I see nothing in Palin’s record to suggest that she has any such qualities.
He is a man who has spent his adult life thinking serious thoughts about serious issues and having serious conversations about them with other serious, well-informed people; while Palin quite as clearly has done none of those things. He was the president of the Harvard Law Review; she was the point guard on her high school basketball team.
He has surrounded himself in his campaign with world-class people (with whom, again, I disagree on almost every issue); and though I am doubtless an elitist and snob for saying so, I doubt that she has even met a half-dozen world-class people in her lifetime.
While Obama might do a hundred things as President that I believe are bad for the country, I am confident that he would surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders. I cannot say the same about Palin and, in view of what this choice reveals about McCain’s character and judgment, I cannot say the same of him either”
Thinking serious thoughts about how to best help his criminal buddy make money?
Serious well-informed people, like Ayers, Wright, Pfleger and Dohrn?
President of Harvard Law Review who never wrote a single article on, you know, the law?
His empty suit matches your empty argument.
I know who you are-you’re Little Debbie the Snack Queen Troll reincarnated. I can tell by your stilted syntax and smug arrogance.
And you never did bring us any of those nasty-ass snacks like you were supposed to.
Go away, bot.
Since you challenged me on vetting I guess I’m free to unload the one that is burning up the tubz
http://www.bristolpalinpregnant.com/
Sully’s take
“Questions for the McCain-Palin campaign:
Where has Bristol Palin (far right, holding Trig, with a ring on her wedding finger) been for the past year? Has she been attending high school? Or was she absent because of infectious mononucleosis for between five and eight months, as is now being reported on the Internet?
Why would a 43 year old woman, on her fifth pregnancy, with a Down Syndrome child, after her amniotic fluid has started to leak, not go to the nearest hospital immediately, even if she was in Texas for a speech?
Why would she not only not go to the hospital in Texas, but take an eight-hour plane flight to Seattle and then Anchorage?
Why would she choose to deliver the baby not in the nearest major facility in Anchorage but at a much smaller hospital near her home-town?
Why did the flight attendants on the trip home say she bore no signs of being pregnant?
It strikes me as likely that there are reasonable answers to these questions – more reasonable than the only one given so far -
“You can’t have a fish picker from Texas,” said Todd -
and the rumors buzzing across the Internets and the press corps are unfounded and unseemly. There must be plenty of medical records and obstetricians and medical eye-witnesses prepared to testify to Sarah Palin’s giving birth to Trig. And surely, surely, the McCain camp did due diligence on this. But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers – and provide medical records for Sarah Palin’s pregnancy – and put this to rest.”
As soon as Barky’s medical records are released Sarah should release hers. And scrolling past all the insipid cutting and pasting is giving me a headache. How about using your brain to give a real argument…oh wait, sorry.
I’ve got it!
Hillgirl is Little Debbie, the Snack Princess Troll reincarnated with the “hill” in her name to throw us off track.
It must be because it thinks we actually read its ramblings.
Holy wall of cut-and-paste. Nobody reads that crap. I thought without violating copyright laws, PLAGIARIZING like Obama and Biden, you could post three paragraphs and a link. Otherwise, you just look like a dumbass.
You know what. down syndrome is almost exclusively seen in Older women who have children. dedective reasoning, which you seem not to have says they yes, she is the mother. You know I noticed that Sasha look doesn’t look like obama, can we have a DNA test? maybe michelle was sleeping with the milk man. Mama’s baby daddy maybe. what the hell? You have lost your minds. What does chelsea need a dna test. i mean after all bill clinton is a dog of a man, maybe chelsea is some woman he knocked up baby and hillary was just raising her to keep up appearance so Bill could be come governor of arkansas. In fact why don’t’ we all go out and have a dna tests, i mean after all up until the 80’s nobodies even sure who there parents are. Obama supporters are pathetic and desperate.
Hilgirl–then why so much hate against Palin from the Ozombie camp? I guess she isn’t so bad ideologically after all.
The reality is that she’s McCain’s running mate now and his more in common with him as a maverick and reformer than the corrupt GOP establishment in Alaska.
I don’t see it as hate but rather astonishment and and opportunity to try their talent as joke writers.
There were many brilliant accomplished women available- lawyers, economists , political scientists, scholars– available & he chose a cute whose bum seems to fascinate him and who read sports scores on TV.
Sheesh. At least pick someone who managed to rise to the top of her lame profession– Cheryl Miller, Hanna Storm– both more accomplished.
If Governor isn’t the top of your field in state politics, I don’t know what is then. And how is personal accomplishment “lame”? Did you lose IQ points when you lipo’ed your ass?
Oh screw that are you serious. Have some of you lost your minds? do you know who you have on the top of your ticket? do you know how much information you don’t know about obama? this is hilarious. i know plenty of black people who were more qualified to run than obama, so let me get this straight, only democrats are allowed to participate in mind numbingly stupid political decisions, hell we can be supper dupper stupid, and put someone with no experience, and who lies about everything on a continual basis? but Republicans must ascribe to a higher standard. any body got some rotten fruit. cause i’m ready to hit one of these bozos right between the eyes with a big fat rotten tomato. Boooo Booooooo.
I think McCain may have seriously messed this one up. Apparently his folks didn’t vet Palin very thoroughly.
There’s always Ron Paul….
You may make a good curry but your knowledge of the electorate leaves something to be desired.
Hope you’re right! I need to stop reading so many blogs…. makes me start feeling hopeless.
Ron Paul is too vetted, thank you. McCain had some good picks and Sarah Palin was a brilliant one. She didn’t need that much vetting, because McCain’s team had already compiled a dossier on her and kept in touch. McCain only needed to meet her once, because it was the last level of an interviewing process, just like any other job. When you meet the big boss, and he likes you, you’re in. Do you have a job? If so, the process I just outlined was probably just like that.
I have been over at the CBS news website giving the bots some education. They are all posting the most ridiculous statements about Palin!! I was starting to get censored because I was posting links to debunk their BS talking points,…oh well,..I always return here to get some sanity!!
The New Obama Troll Talking point:
If you are not skeered when we say “V A G I N A” you are not a true feminist.
Wait that st the same old obama talking point.
You don’t have to support abortion to be a feminist.
That’s the great Lie they have been using to keep you under control.
The right to life right to choice debate, after all is said and done is an incredibly personal decision between a woman and herself only.
No party can lay claim to you based on your genitals.
No party can dehumanize or intimidate or denigrate you based on how you choose to deal with this issue.
Feminism, is about more than a vagina.
Remember, the DNC took your vote and your candidate out from under you. They want you to forget that by waving the Roe V Wade boogeyman in front of you now.
They do it every election to scare their largest constituency into line.
Really if you want to talk about the politics of fear, lets start with that one.
If George Bush in 8 years Didnt over turn Roe V Wade, if Ronald Reagan in 8 years didn’t what makes you think John McCain will be able to?
Its a scare tactic designed to make you think with your genitals instead of your head. Because thats the way most men think in this society were the minority of the species (men) control the majority (women).
Break the Glass ceiling once and for all ladies.
It’s always been within your reach.
Sarah broke the glass trophy case.
She did it did with a hammer of reform.
Does anyone else hope for a BHO “Kerry like” hunting expedition this fall, to show his belief in the 2nd ammendment?
Get all dolled up in some fine Orvis blaze orange gear with the store folds on it, maybe price tags too.
A hunting we will go, a hunting we will go, hi ho the merry-o, a hunting we will go.
Elmer Fudd, Millionaire, yacht and mansion owner
I for one am not comfortable with the thought of a gun in Barack Obama’s hands under any circumstances…
…I have seen him Bowl.
he could pull a “Cheney” you mean?
the thought of the picture fills me with evil glee.
He would look like more of a dork than Kerry. And that’s something
maybe chenney will go with him
this could be fuuuun
Link: Biden received 5 deferments before being declared medically ineligible for Vietnam
“Officials with Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama’s campaign released Biden’s Selective Service records at the request of The Associated Press.”
Wow, the Obama campaign is really forthcoming with Biden’s records. Too bad they don’t do the same for Obama’s records – there are still many unanswered questions because the media is not asking.
link broke, here it is:
story here
Mr HUSSEIN Obamot uses Joe B to cover up Bloom’s records!
whoops, here is the link:
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/ats-ap-cvn-biden-vietnamaug31,0,2934547.story
Sorry… off topic
Palin takes on Obama-Biden regrding energy in a classy and intelligent way.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/08/palin_on_energy_and_obamabiden.html
Hilgirl..
It looks like there are several bent noses in the Alaska political scene. I think it has caused some jealously. Too bad for them that they will be left behind on the Sarah train.
I think Palin is classy, tough, smart, very down to earth and disarming. she’s going to do just fine against the Obama-Biden dumb ass attacks. See video below…
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/08/palin_on_vp_trooper_firing.html
This must be a typo:
“Members under 35 made up 16 percent of the delegates”
Shouldn’t that read – Members who act like they are 16 make up 35% of the delegates?
Just watched BO & Biden on 60 Minutes. It was a typical BO interview but they failed to asked how BO experience compared to Sarahs. McCain and Sarah will be on next week so I hope that question gets asked next week.
Republicans got the Honorable Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, to join the ticket by assuring her that it’s open season on all Obamoose around.
Adrians..
I am a Gov Palin fan…this was not obvious if you had not read my other post. Sorry!
I’m a big fan of Sarah Palin, too. What other post?
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/nation/ny-usgop315823804aug31,0,1967357.story
Sounds like Obama-Biden and team are still in the boys locker room comparing their penis size while Palin is making a slam dunk on the court of politics.
LOL… Obama-Biden = dumb and dummer.
Piece of cake!!They’ll squash her like a bug and then wipe the butts with her!
How is it that BO got away with his campaign person Jackson Jr. asking, “This naturally brings to mind OJ…how do we beat up a White woman..” and get away with it?? No apology!
OMG! They still think of OJ as the victim. Seriously, they really see OJ as the victim. I don’t have a link, but Jackson Jr. was expressing anger about the way OJ was treated. They think he is innocent and the victim.
I don’t understand how no one demanded an apology from BO. The DNC should have asked him to resign from the POTUS race so long ago, with the Wright scandal…
Obama’s M.O. is that he plays good cop/bad cop, where he’s always the good cop and his surrogates play bad cop. Further, he always plays victim, particularly when he’s race-baiting (as well as gender-baiting and character assassinating his opponents).
Obama didn’t personally nullify his opponents’ voter petition ballots the night before the deadline. No, he let his henchmen do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPQedyt10To
—Look how Barry backstabbed Alice Palmer, his friend, political mentor and benefactor in the worst way.
There’s no way Obama would have beaten Alice Palmer without resorting to such ruthless tactics. And of course we Pumas know there’s no way he could have beaten Hillary without his incessant scurrilous race-baiting.
As for OJ-Bama, the GOP can definitely portray him as such, particularly since Jesse Jackson Jr. was the first and only person to bring up OJ back in January. It was of course the brazen playing of race card as usual. The GOP should show how he is an abuser fo women, namely Alice Palmer, Geraldine Ferraro and… Hillary. That’s all they need to do and it would actually be fair, since it’s aince it’s ALL true, i.e. context overrides subtext when the facts are all good.
Note that at about 6m03s, the OJ-Bama henchman who took part in the brutal slaughter of Alice Palmer and the other candidates actually has the nerve to say that Obama “didn’t enjoy it!”
BULLSHIT! He and Michelle were probably laughing their assses off and fist bumping.
[...] The only thing I would quibble over here is the statement that Obama knows a hate campaign won’t work. As the, at least, nominal head of his own campaign, Obama could have “stopped the hate” months ago when Bill and Hillary Clinton were labeled racists. He didn’t. That he chooses to appear worried about this now means there’s a percentage in it for him at this point. And the fact that his surrogates continue to attack in unacceptable ways suggests he’s not serious anyway; he’s just trying to appear above such tactics. And he’s blaming his staff. [...]