Bristol Palin Pregnant
By dcmediagirl on September 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM in Current Affairs
ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.
…Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter’s pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.
In my opinion this is the most stunning news of the campaign so far. A conservative candidate (yes, McCain IS conservative, no matter what Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh think) chooses an unknown woman governor to be his running mate in a move to appeal to the skeptical conservative base, knowing that the governor’s unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant.
The man has brass balls.
I’m literally speechless, so please register your thoughts below.
God Bless Them.
Yes a baby is a gift from GOD and should be seen as a blessing not punishement like Obamaidiot said.
Congrats to the Palins.
here here….
God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform….
What a true delight a new baby brings many new blessings!!
This is one more way sor a lot of us to relate to the Palin Family:
Millions of us have experienced the same thing
with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.
Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.
No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it, even ‘though
I did give her the option….
I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
today, happily married and has gifted me with
two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!
What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?
Sounds like she should have spent more time with her family talking about values and good judgment instead of being a lapdog for big oil/gas in Alaska.
So at 17, you thought your parents were the smartest people on the planet and listened to everything they said and did everything they asked and believed everything they believed, right?
Okay, just checking. So did I. (snark)
Let this be a poke in Obambibots eye the fools. By the way, Obambi’s mother was 17 when she was pregnant with Obambi, was she not, glass houses come to mind, lol.
R.I.P. Kossaks
Obama’s Mother did not promote abstinence only, and no birth control.
How do you know? I’ll bet O’s grandmother did.
Probably not. She is a Unitarian which is quite liberal.
Quite liberal today. Tell me about the 1960’s.
Most of us wouldn’t be here if our mother’s hadn’t gotten pregnant and decided to have us.
Palin is pro birth control. I don’t know where the lie started she wasn’t. Do a little research.
Tinker69 (is the “69″ freudian? And at what, pray tell, are you “tinkering”?), Gov. “Breeder” Palin is a member of “Feminists for Life,” a group that contends that even birth control pills are “abortifacients” — a chemical that causes abortions — and, therefore, “Breeder” Palin is against birth control pills.
So, in response to you, doing what I can only conclude was done during some kind of arduous, one-handed typing while you were tinkering away with the other: “Do a little research.”
The ignorant often refuse to be enlightened.
And you certainly fit that adage to a tee.
oh, turd mcbarf, it’s telling that your name is “mcbarf,” because all you seem to do is arrive as an echo chamber, regurgitating, but in the negative, a progressive’s correct-minded position.
it’s time you think about pulling your head out, or, while you’re still in that anal cavern you call your own, look for a way of expressing your own thoughts in an articulate manner, instead of grunting your way as a remedial adjunct to an already well-expressed opinion.
so what’s say you let me do your next post for you: “i’m rubber, you’re glue…”
Here’s a newsflash, rabbleBabble
A lot of us belong to organizations with whose policies we do not completely agree.
For example:
I remain a registered democrat even though I do not believe in nominating frauds and assholes for president.
And I for damned sure do not believe in hiring low rent babblers like yourself to shill, even if it’s only for a fraudulent asshole like Obama.
what a relief, mr. natural.
then can i assume you won’t be seeking elected office?
You still haven’t answered my reply, twit.
And the answer is because your cult programming does not include an ability to interact well with others. Your posts are only pre-programmed histrionics thinly disguised as an actual response to a post.
It must suck to be an Obamambot.
My father is a doctor who promotes no smoking, low fat diets, no alcohol and lots of exercise.
I’m 20 pounds overweight, got drunk last night and quit smoking only last year. Does that mean he is an ineffective doctor that should be disqualified from practicing medicine?
No but if your Doctor told you to keep up all vices, then yes your Doctor should find a new profession.
You just don’t fly at 8 months pregnant and you really don’t do it when you are having contractions and leaking amniotic fluid when you are having your 5th child at a high risk age. Seriously bad Judgment.
“Obama’s Mother did not promote abstinence only, and no birth control.”
You got a quote from Palin promoting abstinence or no birth control? What’s your point? Or is there no point, just make up shit.
If Obama’s Mommy wasn’t punished with a baby as an unwed teenager then we wouldn’t have Barack here to run for President today.
Palin opposes abortion even if her own daughter was raped. That is a more extreme pro-life view than even mainstream Republicans hold.
She opposes sex education, including teaching our children about contraception, and instead prefers abstinence-only education…which didn’t work so well with her daughter.
The same social conservatives who strongly condemned Jamie Spears, Juno and Knocked Up for promoting teen pregnancy and pregnancy out of wedlock will now rally around Palin to show their true contradictory nature.
Alyssa, from the tone of your comments I do not think you are interested in any child’s welfare, but rather just want to grind a political ax.
What you don’t understand about the opposition to sex education by most conservatives is this:
They don’t want school officials to teach their children about these sensitive issues. They want to have these conversations with their children in private at home away from other children where both the child and parent are free to speak their minds, ask open questions, and give detailed answers.
Sex education in school is not designed for the individual student’s needs, concerns, or fears. Children are not free to ask questions because they fear they’ll be made fun of by other children. Teachers cannot give personal advice that might apply to the individual child’s needs.
Conservatives aren’t against sex education, just sex education from the State.
It’s laughable you insult the great teachers of our nation as unable to relate to our children about something so basic as human sexuality.
And yet, you think “social conservative” parents will be much more open about the topic with their children (or that their children aren’t afraid to openly discuss that topic with them…plenty are).
Palin also wants to teach creationism in our science classes. What’s next, voodoo? Islam? Buddha? No thanks; teach my children science in school, I can take them to Sunday school myself.
I am still not sure about this. I read a quote where she said it should be discussed but was not speaking about science classes. Many people who fight creationists do not oppose discussing the issue in non science classes such as comparative religion. She may favor teaching it in science class but I have not seen the evidence for this.
I still remember seeing how tenderly Bristol cradled that little baby at the Dayton, OH rally. Even some cynical O bots remarked that she kissed little Trig in a motherly fashion. That’s because she is excited about being one herself in a few months. No one forced her to do nything. She seems like someone who looks up to her mother and couldn’t wait to be a mother herself.
No, Palin does not want to ‘teach creationism in schools’. What she said was that she thought it could be good to expose students to a variety of views on the beginnings of life. She said that she would not mandate that school boards teach creationism. Get your facts straight.
My understanding is that she didn’t even go that far.
What I read that she said was that the topic should not be prohibited IF a STUDENT RAISED THE QUESTION.
She did not say teach it, she did not say insert it into the curriculum, she said it shouldn’t be “verboten” like some sort of Third Rail, if someone in the class brought it up.
Which is sort of logical, really. Aren’t people generally suspicious when they’re told they CAN’T talk about something?
And Public Health officials are in almost lock-step agreement that schools need to educate the children because they are not getting informed at home.
If the parents are ignorant about sex, they can’t teach their children. And ignorant children get into bad situations.
Every other industrialized nation has comprehensive sex ed in their classrooms. Results: significantly lower teen pregnancy rates than the U.S.A.
Every other industrialized nation has comprehensive sex ed in their classrooms.
Really? China? Japan? Russia? Middle East countries?
Results: significantly lower teen pregnancy rates than the U.S.A.
Research suggests that teenage pregnacies have more to do with poverty than lack of sex education.
Research also suggests that sex education programs do more to reduce disease than teenage pregnancy.
Well then, Gov. Palin’s “when a doughnut and a hotdog are married and want to express their love physically, as any good perishable food item eventually does” speech must not have been completely understood by her daughter. Perhaps Gov. Palin herself needs to “bone up” (pun intended) on the “sex” part of “sex education.”
Maybe it’s time that we have a statewide, Alaskan town meeting to discuss, not “the birds and the bees,” but “pastries with holes in them and meat products shaped like a tube,” so as not to offend the conservatives.
Here’s a conservative parent’s feelings on teaching teens about sex: “Why do we have to talk about sex when teaching our children about sex education? It’s those darn liberals who’re making us talk about it. If it weren’t for them, my daughter and/or son wouldn’t notice that their bodies are changing. It’s because of the Democrats that my daughter/son is discovering the changes in their bodies. Ignorance is bliss. Now, pass the Velveeta!”
You think Bristol got pregnant because she didn’t understand her mother’s sex education speech?
Ignorance is bliss. Have some chips with your queso.
I come from a locality where there’s EXHAUSTIVE sex education in the public schools.
There’s also a shitload more teen preganancy than there was back in my day, when there was very LITTLE sex ed.
It’s “fashionable” nowadays for kids to fuck. Accidents are going to happen.
When I was young, it was less common for young teens to be screwing around. The ones that did it were considered “rebellious” …and of course, they were also often the ones who SMOKED!
As Lois Griffin said to her son Chris in a FAMILY GUY episode…. “If she smokes, she pokes!”
Alyssa: Palin would have set herself up for criticism if she had arranged for her daughter to have an abortion. She didn’t. There is no inconsistency here. And by the way, the abstinence-only education movement is a racket. Sensible social conservatives know it doesn’t work, but they’re too deeply invested in it despite its obvious, quantifiable failures. That’s their problem to sort out. And if they want to hypocritically defend Palin’s daughter while criticizing Jamie Lynn Spears and Juno, as far as I’m concerned that just adds to the fun.
Alyssa,
I never said that the teachers couldn’t related to the children. I said they couldn’t give personal advice, they aren’t allowed.
The sex education curriculum is so politically correct that it doesn’t address individual concerns. It’s a one-size-fits-all curriculum.
Parents who know the child are in a better position to discuss the details. I don’t want another adult, whose values I don’t know and may not trust if I did, to teach my child about sex.
Yes, plenty of children are scared to talk to their parents about sex. That applies whether or not the parents are conservative or liberal.
No, Palin does not want to teach creationism in schools. Look up the facts. She said she isn’t against having a creationism discussion if it comes up in class. She is not a proponent of State-mandated religious instruction.
You said, no thanks, to teach your child about science in school that you can take your child to Sunday school yourself. That’s exactly my point on sex education. No thanks, teach my child to read, write, add, and subtract. I’ll teach him/her about sex.
Sometimes we all forget how easy it is to get carried away when we are so young and in love.
Most of us are lucky. It is usually the good girls who get caught.
Get your facts straight. She is in favor of abortion in cases of rape.
No, she is not
No she isn’t!
Some people are SO anti Obama (and I don’t plan on voting for him) that they say anything. Also known as verbal diahhrea.
She is in favor of it only when the mother’s life is in danger.
It would seem she and Obama are polar opposites on the subject. At least Palin’s stance take the moral high ground.
Obama’s upport of murdering unwanted infants, even when born alive is reprehensible.
I have yet to see how Palin’s views on abortion affect her views on states’ rights reagarding it.
Anyone know?
it’s called “the day-after pill.”
As I read the posts from the Obots, I wonder how many would be around if the morning after pill were available 30-40 years ago. Better yet, I wonder how many parents wished they had it and had taken it when they saw what brain dead, shallow pieces of shit their kids had become.
“The same social conservatives who strongly condemned Jamie Spears, Juno and Knocked Up for promoting teen pregnancy and pregnancy out of wedlock will now rally around Palin to show their true contradictory nature.:
You answered your own complaint: promoting. Contrary to the above, neither Palin nor her daughter are promoting teenage pregnancy.
Actually, my husband and I (both progressives) disliked the movie JUNO, primarily because it was just too cavalier about teenage pregnancy, wrapping it up in a veneer of wit and coolness. As it is, many teenage girls have a romantic view of pregnancy, but to pass it off as a COOL thing too is just irresponsible. (This said, I believe in the writer’s right to free speech.)
Yes, the film featured the informative and poignant theme of open adoption and the complicated issues thereof, but come on, June was put forth as a kind of sassy, angst-ridden roll model which has great appeal to teenagers.
After my husband and I saw the film we just looked at each other in amazement. The thought of our teenage nieces and other pre-pubescent girls seeing this movie was quite disturbing.
In any case, I support Palin’s CHOICES for her and her family. Her daughter’s pregnancy is very familiar to many and makes her all the more real and likable!
So what ! that is her right. Who are we to judge her decision, Ayssa. I am against gay marriage and I am a democrat. I am against gay programing and I am a democrat. I am against abortion with the exception of children or women rape- but feel that lustful women should be put in jail for abortion. This is my view, so what is the problem with Palin’s view? Are we suppose to follow the sheeps in views? Please- go back to the liberal KOS pool!
You’re a moron. What about lustful men whose sexual acts result in pregnancies? Where is the proof that lands them in jail? You’re sexist, plain and simple, and the further we come from your point of view, the better off we’ll all be.
I don’t support Obama, but I think you’re a nutty whackjob asshole, frankly.
How about we put whackjob assholes like you in jail, hmmmmm?
Yeah, that’s the ticket! Didactic dickheads are FAR more dangerous to our nation than a few lustful folks having some fun with their fiddlybits after all!
PSSSSST…… You’re either NOT a Democrat, or one doing a stereotypical imitation of a fundie whackjob.
What you are, on some level, is a great big honking bullshitting phony
Get the behind me, dickhead!
The Jamie Lynn comparison just won’t fly. Try again.
Jamie was a teen celebrity with millions of very young girl fans. The complaint was that she would set a bad example to her adoring impressionable fans who might want to follow in her footsteps not understanding that Jaimi by virtue of her celebrity status and wealth, would have a much easier time caring for a baby, even if she was immature.
Bristol Palin is not an icon. She represents the millions of young girls in average families struggling with issues of sex and morality. Also, at 17, she is almost of legal age. Jamie was 15 when she got pregnant. The difference of 1 or 2 years in your teen years is light years. Thirteen year olds have nothing in common with 15 or 16 year olds. At 17, you’re in a holding pattern waiting to become legal. Americans have created a society where teens are openly sexually active. What? You think birth control is going to take care of everything? Birth control often fails. And some girls want to become moms as soon as they can. I personally don’t recommend it, but at 17 going on 18, there’s not a whole lot a parent can do in this permissive climate with a girl who longing for a baby and not interested in school and career.
This is where feminism failed. It failed to take into account the natural urges of females and males and instead was determined to push an agenda based on the wonders of the modern independent working women. Some women just want to be moms, have a husband and live a family centered life.
To each his own, I say.
Alyssa, stop spreading lies and distortions for the Obama thugs.
Palin has a right to her beliefs just like you do.
She has not used her office to legislate her beliefs. Do some homework before you come here and spread lies.
I think applying for absence only funding from the Feds qualifies.
I have done my homework and I have to VEHEMENTLY disagree with you - oh wait, I am I using too big of a word? Let me try and tone down my Harvard degreed vocabulary.
ALL politicians are in office to legislate their beliefs and ours, why do you think we elect them!?! She hasn’t been able to do so yet, because she hasn’t been there long enough! And while she hasn’t used her office to legislate her beliefs, yet, she is accused of using her office to abuse power!
I guess we shall see after the hopefully unbiased investigation begins!
Alyssa, I also believe comprehensive sex education should be offered in public schools as an optional class. It is not something which should be required against the wishes of parents. There is a paradox in your comment IMO. Who are the people who produce the movies you have referenced and why do they push the envelope so far to attract children? These aren’t aimed at adults. At least, most adults prefer something more cerebral. I have always considered myself a liberal, but there are days I am thankful my children are grown and worry about my granddaughters. I wonder if some conservatives have stepped back because they want to protect their children from the promisquity shown in movies and TV and on the Internet. But, I despise what the liberal bloggers are doing with this story and the first one they published which turned out to be a lie and for which they have offered no apologies. It is a morally unjustifiable attack on this family and it has made me feel sick that Dems would do this. Would you mind telling me where you got the information about Gov. Palin? I have read some things she has said in the past and although she is of course, conservative, I have the impression of a completely resonable woman who happens to have a different point of view on somethings, but not fanatical.
She was pregnant by a married adult man she barely knew.
Glass houses anyone?
And by the way you hypocritical “liberal” piece of shit “Alyssa”, I had sex at 17 and I’m sure you did too, even if you had to tie a porkchop around your neck to get a dog to follow you home, you horrible person.
That porkchop line was a riot!!!
Obama’s mother may have been 17 and married when she had him but she was NOT running for VP so nix the comparison! If this pregnancy issue was the about the Obama’s, the GOP, and news media would have a field day smearing them! Move over Edwards! What a cover-up!
Bristol Palin isn’t running for VP either. The comparison is valid.
Holy shit! Bristol is running for VP??? Where the hell have I been, I thought is was SARAH running. Somebody slap me upside the head.
love your comment…couldn’t have said it better!!
A SIN is A SIN
His mother was 18…..You Republicans know you all are full of shit. What that got to do with the fact that her daughter is pregnant…..
Two wrongs don’t make it right.
Olin Ross
Alyssa:
What kind of rock have YOU been living under. I hate to break it to you, but it is not unusual for 17 year olds to have sex with their boyfriend. Furthermore, she is engaged and she will marry the father, and this is Bristol Palin’s little family. So?
You know, she could have just had an abortion, and no one would know she was (OMG!!) having sex. BUT this is a PRO-LIFE family. In your world, maybe it is a shame, but it’s a blessing to others, even though it is a challenge.
Furthermore, what’s YOUR sex life like? You blame / think of your own mother for the decisions you make with a lover? Gimme a break.
Wow Alyssa, you sure are one angry [EDITED BY ADMINISTRATOR] … If this were about a daughter of Obama’s you’d be singing a different tune.
Alyssa, you have very valid points. Don’t listen to these lemmings. They’ll eat up any old shit the conservatives puke up.
You were instructed by the Obamabot of the day to never use the word lemming as it reflects poorly on our duties. Return to HQ for re-programming.
But the fact that Bristol chose to have her baby and was not forced to by her mother, the fact that no one mentions the father, the fact that the family chose to support her decision… none of these are valid points.
Yeah, but the difference is, Dem have always believed that teen pregnancy was just life but you guys have lays spewed FAMILY VALUE anthems at teen mothers — well…until now that is…how convenient
Judge not…..
Back off, Alyssa!!! Not one of us is perfect. Even mothers who are not governors have children who become pregnant without being married.
Careful how you judge other’s; God really does work in mysterios ways.
Didn’t Obama’s mother get pregnant at an early age out of wedlock? Sounds like Obama and his supporters should be more understanding.
reply to PINK PANTHER…
Yes Obama’s mother did get pregnant to an already married man..doesn’t that smack of polygamy ..she married an already married man..evidently he had a family already in Kenya..so is Obama an illegitimate polygamist son?????
Why we don’t know because the Messiah sends his pigs to attack others while being the coward of all cowards ..hiding his own records.
The kind of mother that raised Barack Obama?
The kind of mother that raised Barack Obama?
and then abandoned him!!
You know… people who have the gall to say things like
“What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?
Sounds like she should have spent more time with her family talking about values and good judgment instead of being a lapdog for big oil/gas in Alaska.”
should be a member of the neo-cons. As an Obama supporter..you’d fit right in. You must be a member of the New Obama Party. Which is why we are saying NOBAMA.
Classy.
I hope you aren’t the parent of teenagers. You are asking for trouble if you think that being a stay-at-home, involved mom keeps kids from getting pregnant. It may reduce the risk, but it is no guarantee. I grew up in the fifties when almost everyone’s mom stayed home yet a couple of girls from really nice families ended up pregnant (this was a small town). There were several others that I know for sure had unprotected sex at least a couple of times. In fact I know one of their moms who thought like you and her daughter was more at risk than most.
Do we know for sure that Palin told McCain about this? If not that could be a problem, unless she did not know until now, which is not out of the realm of possibilities.
The only criticism of her that I think has some validity is that she answered a questionnaire when running for governor where she said she approved of abstinence only education, and not explicit sex ed. The evidence is clear that only the latter works. So maybe if she had tried this her daughter would not be pregnant, but even that is no guarantee.
Check out her answers (just scroll down, don’t click on the palinforgovernor link which now goes to McCain’s website.) I am not happy with several of them, although I don’t know that she implemented any of these positions as governor.
http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html
He says she did, and he didn’t make an issue of it.
Maybe she had an assistant fill out that questionaire, and that’s not her handwriting even if it looks like it.
Sounds like you don’t have children.
Alyssa…Mr. Soetoro-Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was messing with Barack senior when she was 17 yrs old, Senior was, 24, can we say statuary rape, even if it was consensual! Pedophilia is another word which we could apply? Plus Soetoro was born out of wedlock. So don’t go prissy on us!
Sara Palin is the kind of mother like millions of mothers in this United States of America, me included. I had to get married because I was pregnant, and now my 35 year old son, an engineer, father of two, and an absolutely wonderful human being. Probably a lot better person than you alyssa. He is a tolerant kind and wonderful addition to the human race.
My daughter also had to get married, has three beautiful children, a great husband, and is probably one of the best mother’s I have had the pleasure to take credit for.
My sisters, two, besides myself also had to get married, and that was in the 60’s, daughters of devote Catholics and very good parents. All of their children brought about out of wedlock, are some of the most productive people and parents.
I have to suspect you have no children, for the old saying applies, only by the grace of God go I, should be something you should think and and internalize. Sara Palin is in some very good company and have added to the world in a much more humanity manner than yourself, alyssa.
I was SOOOOO thankful our kid managed to get out of highschool without getting knocked up! Tell you, that youngest one was the scariest kid I ever raised…her frontal lobes just REFUSED to develop!
She’s 20 now, married and just had our first grandson (she has always absolutely loved kids)… while “he” wouldn’t have been my first choice, she is an absolutely FANTASTIC mother who has given us the best grandbaby in the world!
“Had” to get married?
Ideally, children are raised by two parents in the same household, but nobody “has” to get married.
In this case, particularly 17-year-olds.
Perhaps when the state starts issuing licenses to procreate and marry, this nonsense will pass.
This is one more way for a lot of us to relate to the Palin Family:
Millions of us have experienced the same thing
with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.
Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.
No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it, even ‘though
I did give her the option….
I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
today, happily married and has gifted me with
two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!
To Alyssa:
You are an ignorant prude. While I do not condone a 17 year old becoming pregnant out of wedlock, I applaud her decision to have the baby.
As to what kind of mother she must have? The kind that made the girl want to keep the baby and nurture it, unlike so many who have an abortion and then hide the fact that she had sex out of marriage. The kind of mother who instills in her children that a life is precious, and far more important than saving face.
Sarah Palin is the right kind of mother raising her daughter to have the sense of responsibility and courage to do the right thing on her own. God Bless Sarah Palin. Would that we had many more mothers like her.
She has the kind of mother that demonstrates that sometimes holding a principled stand isn’t easy, but it is worth it anyway.
The best parents don’t have a say when daughters decide to have sex.
Amen to that!
What did these Obots expect of Governor Palin? 1.) Lock her daughter in a closet and do daily chasity belt checks? Or 2.)force feed her birth control pills, perhaps force her to under go a minor medical procedure like an IUD insertion? Neither option is acceptable or realistic. Once again, women are being painted into a “damn if you do, damned if you don’t” scenario.
My what a how greater thou art statement..! I too have 5 children, my oldest daughter had her first baby at 18, she married the father…that was 24 years ago..they are still married, had 3 other children, the oldest of which graduated from college with a 4.0 grade average..things happen on this journey thru life..it is not the situation we may find ourselves facing but how & what we do with them..
OMG Alyssa: What planet do you live on. We raise our children with all the love and directions in life that we can. It happens no matter how much you try to educate your children.
I didn’t have a daughter, but do have a son and we had talked to him about the conseqences of having sex before marriage. He and his girlfriend lived through a very trying time when she thought she was pregnant, marriage plans were being discussed when she got the tests results that she was not. We all had discussed the options available and they were choosing to get married. So, it can happen even if you have a son.
Don’t be so quick to play the blame game until you have walked in the same shoes as Sarah Palin and all of us mothers.
You are communicating with us by the internet from somewhere in the 19th century correct? Amazing technology back then. I did not know it existing.
It sounds like if Stanley Ann Obama had taken your advice at age seventeen, Senator Obama wouldn’t exist. At least his father wouldn’t be a Kenyan named Obama.
and your solution is what? abortion?
I’m pro-choice, and Palin’s daughter CHOSE to have her baby. Screw you and the stuffed pony your ass rode in on.
The above is in response to ALyssa. I think it may have landed in the wrong place, so I apologize if that’s the case
And like no “good people” could possibly have a daughter get pregnant out of wedlock.
What kind of judgment does Obama have to choose a drunk as his running mate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
That video is the ultimate in smarmy pandering. Biden is going for the woman and blue collar support all in one drunken ramble.
I’m with Larry. I am shocked at the intolerance of the so-called “progressives.” If Biden had an unwed pregnant daughter, the lefties would consider Obama’s acceptance and support as “bold and compassionate.”
The DNC powers that be have exposed the Democratic Party as the Hypocritic Party. They reserve compassion only for those who are willing to join the lefty elitist club.
We need a strong 3rd party ASAP.
is that a lapdog for the same people she confronted on ethics charges?
Pardon me? 70% of African-American babies are born out of wedlock.
0bama’s band of blogosphere nutjobs are a bunch bonafide idiots.
The more they harp on this, the more people are going to make the obvious comparisons like 70% of children born out of wedlock in the black community, many to teen mothers. If they condemn her for being a bad mother, then they are condemning 0bama’s grandparents and his mother who had sex with a polygamous man with other wives.
McCain is on good stead with this, just as he is with the experience theme. The more they talk about Palin’s inexperience, the more they shed light on 0bama who is at the top of his ticket.
Botheads need to go sit in a corner for awhile and think. They are rolling with some of the stupidest strategies all of which keep coming back to bite them in the butt.
Frankly, I hope they keep this up.
What kind of mother indeed! One who is no different from the rest of us who are only too human.
It must be wonderful to be as perfect as you. To live in your judgmental world must be very trying on your family, if, indeed you have one!
Grow up and try to learn at least an inkling of what the real world is all about and shut up with your typical Obama comments. Go to a blog that wants you because we sure don’t. You add nothing to the conversation
Comment by Alyssa
What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?
Obama’s mother. If this is such a problem for you, why are you voting for him?
the advise my parents gave me fell on deaf ears…..
no point in advising you as we know you will only do what you want in the end!
wonder how many teenagers added this level of listening or advise to life??
well we see it daily for the Obama followers life is a canvas we as individuals throw as much paint as we want at it.
Life’s a trip~~ what you achieve and do with it is down to each of us, no amount of words or advice will make a difference.
This is how we all grow…… Experience makes us evolve……
Best wishes to the Palin’s
You sound to me like a very hard embittered woman. You were very strict and probably have an old momma’s boy today. How dare you attack a woman of such quality-I’m sure you judge everyone harshly and think only yourself perfect. This woman loves and values life so much that she had her own child even when it had downs syndrome and doctor’s urged her to abort it. This is a woman with a strong heart-something I fear you lack. Your children I’m sure were very obedient and are probably today angry, embittered like yourself and boring as hell,as are you.You would put women back a thousand years. Perhaps you had the opportunity of a rich husband to take care of you while you watched the children at home. Lucky you. For most women it’s a tremendous struggle to balance having to make a living because of the expensive world we live in. For the highly evolved intelligent woman like Sarah Palin, the challenges are even greater because you see all of the inequity in the world and feel it your duty to change it to make a better life for your children and others children. You should be thanking her for the hard work she’s done of beating the good old boy network at their own game and helping all of the citizen’s of Alaska financially. They love her.
For your information I was a mother at seventeen. I was raised by very strict parent’s who allowed me to go nowhere, kept very strict tabs on me and taught me that boy’s were bad. Believe me they were the ideal strict parent’s. In spite or perhaps because of this, I met a seventeen year old boy and because I’d never been taught anything about sex thought I couldn’t get pregnant. Well, I did and decided to keep my wonderful son. Having him changed my life forever. He was my best friend for life until his recent accidental life. Maybe you should stop being so harsh on others and take a look at your own life. Is it perfect, or is that your problem. You’re so bored that you spend your time attacking others. Sarah Palin is great for her family and a great woman to help run this country!
“He was my best friend for life until his recent accidental life.”
I know you meant to say his accidental death which has been devastating to both of us.
Stop it.
LIFE happens
Wow, aren’t you perfect. Teen girls sometimes get pregnant no matter how great or bad their up bringing. Kids don’t always listen to parents!! At least she is taking responsibility and not aborting her child. Good for you Bristol!!
Fathers can also play a very big part in raising a child so to blame the mom is an ignorant sexist stance.
Teens make choices that mom & dad don’t like. Ann Dunham was 3 months pregnant when she got married.
Miss Palin made a choice and is taking responsibility for her actions.
We should respect her right to choose life for her and her baby.
Alyssa,
Who are you to judge a woman and her parenting ability because her 17 year old daughter became pregnant? I swear, some people (on both sided of the political spectrum) are so judgmental and they should spend that time looking at others examining themselves. They probably have tried and do not like what they see.
Ask Stanley Ann Dunham., she was pregnant with Barack at 17
You sound like some self-righteous snob spitting on the adversity of others.
oh a truly wonderful blessing and may you sit back and relax through your golden years!!
You are so right. Same with my family, and many of my friends in the rural/small town area I grew up in. The Obama folks are proving today that it is physically possible to talk before thinking, because many of the Hillary voters that are up for grabs, the lower income, rural, small town women I grew up with, will totally identify with this. One of the great ironies is that while the Obama cult is having a field day using this to club the Palins, not one of them seems to have stopped to think that their guy, Obama, was brought into the world the exact same way! What ya think the odds are of Olberman and the other Obama Pom Pom girls recognizing the connection to Obama’s conception/birth while they use this to try to skin the Palins?
Palin will lovingly support her daughter. MILLIONS of Americans go through this. Have y’all forgotten about Obama’s own story with regard to being fatherless for a period of time, too?
Of course we all know how he tends to exaggerate that, too. Like “I was raised by a single mom who worked and went to school”
AND
was remarried when he was two, so she wasn’t too much of a single mom. He’s so full of BS his eyes are brown (and you thought they were brown because he’s black).
The fact that you think it is a blessing for a 17 year old to have a baby is beyond reality. Clearly, you have spent no time with 17 year old girls. They are not adult, nor should they be! She should be going to prom and doing pajama parties with her girlfriends. Not changing diapers and breast feeding. Wake up, people
Leave this child alone, she’s not running for VP it’s her mother. Just because Sarah has a daughter who is pregnant has nothing to do with her being qualified to do her job. A new baby is a blessing from God but Obama thinks it’s a punishment.
The point is, it is a PERSONAL decision. It’s not up to anyone but her to decide if she’s blessed, punished, or something in-between.
The governor’s daughter made her PERSONAL decision. And good enough for her.
I don’t recall seeing the name of BRISTOL PALIN on any ballot, or placed in nomination at any convention, so my view is that this private citizen/teenager should be left the fuck alone to the extent possible, given her now-famous parent.
She needs all the privacy she can be afforded at this stressful time in her young life.
I know McCain didn’t like it when his special needs daughter got raked over the coals by Bush. Even the media had some “fun” with that “illegitimate black baby” nonsense. I’m sure that his thoughts went back to that time when he was vetting Palin. SHE’S the candidate–not her teenaged daughter.
republicans are great at bullshitting themselves.suddenly it’s okay to have a woman running for vice president under an abstinence platform with a 17 year old knocked up daughter? so it’s fine when you so called conservatives do it, but it’s an abomination when everyone else does.you people are sickos. if christ came down tommorrow you would probably try to discredit him and convince america that the son of god is a communist are some shit. you people are fucking nuts!!!
Poor little republican hater..
Sarah Palin and her family have class!
You don’t!
The fact that they have a large family and adhere to their beliefs is noble to me.
Alaskan’s believe in large families as they live in remote areas and big families help.
Keep it up though!!
Every time you speak you convert another person to
McCain/Palin 08
God Bless the Palins or McCain’s balls>
Seems like the many conservative and religious people have the most trouble in their families…teen pregnancies, sex problems, alcoholism,evading truths…I guess they don’t practice what they preach….of yes, we’re all sinners…and God will help light the way.
ROTFLMAO!
yes if the Obama campaign uses this for their smear tactics then it will open the floodgates to smears against Obama’s Mother.
The only problem I have is, if she’s 5 months, why did they wait so long to decide to get married?
Ditto, and she comes from a good family that will stand behind her. My daughter got pregnant in her senior year in high school, she was 17. Then gave birth to her daughter when she was 18. She’s a great mama. Breast fed her till she was almost a year. Got a job, paid for all her clothes, her medical. Of course I’m a little bit prejudice when it comes to her. I think it was something in the water. Her, and all her freinds did, but she didn’t allow it to stop her. Nor did any of her friends, they are all business owners or went on to college and have great jobs. She and her husband own two businesses. One they just do for fun, and when they want to. The other they’re doing great in. They recently had a baby which was a true blessing after what she’d just been through less than 2 years ago. Now they’ve informed me they want one more. They also just had their home built, which I’m jealous over, she has kitchen cabinets galore. You can never have too many kitchen cabinets.
I love the connectives who when one of their number has a pit fall they justify it. Its OK with us if she has a baby out of wed lock, but none of you fags can get married. Rush is a drug addict “Poor gut he needs help”. I bet she is off the team for personal reasons. She did interfere with her former Brother-in -law getting fired. That will be next.
May the DNA God Bless them. That’s the extent of it. [the converse of God Bless for us Agnostics]
At any rate, John McCain may have admired Reagan but neither Reagan nor George W. Bush are actual traditional Teddy Roosevelt Conservationists [Conservatives].
McCain is far more of the old GOP. That’s what seems to be confusing Coulter and others. The GOP, just like the DNC sheds it’s skin from time to time.
Thanks,Harp…
GOD BLESS PALIN’S DAUGHTER AND THE BABY ON THE WAY!
SHAME ON KOS AND THE OBAMABOTS FOR PASSING THESE DISGUSTING RUMORS.
THEY HAVEN’T HILLARY TO WOMAN-BASH AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD CONTINUE WITHY THE MISOGYNIST BASHING OF PALIN!!
SHAME ON BARACK AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR SUPPORTING THIS FILTHY INVESTIGATION INTO PRIVATE BUSINESS!
Maybe if Sarah Palin was parenting her children instead of chasing her career her daughter wouldn’t have grown up to be a whore.
“The bot takes the lotion from the bucket; it does it when it’s told to”
Go back to Obahannibal, texdud.
You have some issues, texas dude.
Seek help.
God bless them? I’m sorry. God does NOT bless hypocrites. Palin does not support any form of sex education. She touts ABSTINENCE ONLY, even though SHE HERSELF was pregnant when she got married.
She is an over-breeding, warmongering, power-hungry, HYPOCRITE!!
OBAMA 08!!
i was just going to post McCain’s official statement to the media… it is amazing and speaks volumes about ALL concerned:
Well said.
blub, I think they’re absolutely great
gotta tell you, this reaction from conservative GOP parents is a lot better than the one I got from my liberal mom and GOP dad….
MAC/PALIN 08!!!!
Palin confirms daughter’s pregnancy
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/palin-confirms-daughters-pregnancy-915378.html
McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” circulating on liberal blog sites.
According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin’s child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.
A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.
“The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,’” a senior aide said.
…………………………
Want knews go to the foreign press for answers, our ‘press’ is on vacation…having already called the election several times.
Oops that was NEWS…
Well Bristol being 5 months pregnant means that there is no way that she could have been the mother of the child Sarah had 3 months ago.
Thank you for pointing that out.
Trig was born 4/18/2008 more like 4 months
Highly unlikely that Bristol would be the mother of Trig.
She’d be unique in that she could get pregnant with kid number two before she delivered kid number one.
I notice there’s no “Gee, we fucked up” from the Obamabots. They’re just disappointed that the Governor wasn’t lying, and trying to make the “best” out of young Bristol’s situation by making vicious remarks about her personal decision and her private life.
I wager if anyone started raking Obama’s kids over the coals, they’d be screaming bloody murder.
Obama’s kids aren’t being raised by hypocrites like Palin’s. She believes in abstinence only.
How’s that working for ya Palin?
Hypocrisy, the new Christianity.
Obama 08
The baby was born in April. This is September. Just saying.
Great statement. Hats off to her.
i would like to be the first person to congratulate the Palins on their baby news…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I second that!
I shuuder to think where the scumbag Obamabots will go with this.
That Sarah is not a good enough mindful mother.
Just like what the rightists would do if it were Obama’s daughter.
Bad news, though I guess it “humanizes” Palin, gives her a fault, so jealous women might look more kindly on her.
You don’t need to be a “bot” to see the problem here.
Another problem is McCain trolls are dominating this board of late.
Hey Ahole, you can make this statement actually?
This was Obama’s mother with him, so what you claim is a total denouncement of your candidate you stupid f*ck!
Hey, how many months’ pregnant was OZero’s mother
when she supposedly married his already married
father?
And how old was HIS mother at that time?
IN THOSE DAYS THAT WAS A SCANDAL, for sure!!!
I well remember…..
How does my comment denounce Hillary? Please explain.
You McCain trolls are no less sensitive to this news than the Obama trolls were to the the Palin announcement in the first place.
Hillary and Bill Clinton have raised an amazing daughter despite the turmoil and heavy scrutiny of politics in their lives.
McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Chelsea ‘20
McCain ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Chelsea ‘20
One term McCain?
Is that the latest Hopey-Changey disinformation from the McCain spinners for the Hillary supporters?
Let’s see Obama, a public figure, 46 years old, Bristol Palin 17…do you really not get it?
On this blog Jack is the troll, not the ones who oppose Obama. But he has yet to demonstrate that he can understand such a complex concept.
Are you on glue? There are two candidates in this race - Obama and McCain. The former is not too popular around here.
if it was Obiteme’s daughter, she would have been whisked away to a clinic in minutes. You know, “punished with a baby”.
Before they whisked her away to a clinic Michelle would’ve straightened her hair and curled it with a curling iron.
They can’t go very far with it at all.
How old was stanley when she met got pregnant and supposedly married Barack senior?
and lets not forget the infamous “I don’t want my daughters punished with a baby” line.
Or the Born Alive abortion stuff that he killed in the state senate twice.
Besides as we were told By Obama at saddleback forum, questions about unborn babies are above his pay grade.
Good points!
exactly.
Obama’s mother wasn’t a saint either.
This is just more of female bashing by Obama supporters. They truly do hate women.
Being pro-choice includes the decision to have the child. The leftist seem to believe that pro-choice means only allowing abortions. This sounds like typical Marxist theology.
Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women
Neither was his polygamist, alcoholic deadbeat dad, and Obama wrote a tribute to him.
Fine. And what about McCain himself fooling around with Cindy while he was still married to his seriously injured wife????? Whether you McCain people like it or not, this event opens up a very large can of worms. I have a 16-year-old daughter and believe me, I am now appalled that a VP candidate who could easily become president, if McCain is elected, has a family in such disarray. Just more evidence of McCain’s lack in judgment. It is scary to think this man and possibly woman would be in charge of making decisions for the rest of us. Don’t trust either of them. BTW, Palin is under ethics investigation for covering up. That is the issue here–too many cover ups. Who can you trust?
What about Obama with Larry Sinclair? Who can one trust?
and watch out for Biden’s tongue..he likes to mouth kiss alot…
about Biden and Jeff Gannon..well i will leave that up to you to google..
Thats a little vague let me help you:
What about Obama getting a blowjob from Larry Sinclair while smoking crack in the back of a limo and then doing a repeat with larry in his hotel room the next day.
The same Larry sinclair that Joe FillerUp Biden’s atourney general son had arrested in dc in a clear breach of jurisdiction to shut him up and kill any traction the “Barry BLows” story was going to get.
I mean really.
I think it shows that John McCain has finally got his mojo back, after being devastated by the Bush hatemongers in 2000. If you recall, they started a rumor that his dark skinned adopted Bangladeshi daughter was a “bastard black baby” so he would lose South Carolina.
The fact that McCain would find out Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and say it is no big deal, says a lot about his character.
I was going to vote McKinney on GP, since my state will go for Barky any way. I think now I will vote McCain, to register my appreciation for his standing up to the WOMAN HATING left wing.
You “progressives” are worse than George Bush. There is a God and she will punish you for humiliating a pregnant 17 year old.
WOW — the mental hospital is missing a whole ward!
So many self righteous Obamabots have swarmed to NQ.
Obamabots return to the nut house and line up for your meds — do it NOW!
How come it’s ok to slam a 17 year old who isn’t running for anything, but no one in the msm has shown or talked about the lovely Biden videos where he runs around obviously drunk? He IS running to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency and is supposed to be advising OB on foreign policy etc. How come more is not being made of this which seriously could be dangerous? What is wrong with these people to pressure this kind of cruel garbage and not talk about something that is truly a potential problem for our country? Can we not blast this all over the place and force the msm to take notice? I can’t believe I’m living in reality right now. I keep thinking I’m going to wake up but it hasn’t happend yet. Yikes.
I don’t know about you, but I’m thrilled that a wino is a heartbeat away from having his finger on the red button.
They usually swarm when BO has taken a hit in the polls…they’re like clockwork.
They usually swarm when BO has taken a hit in the polls…they’re like clockwork.
Give me a break. Look at the family of FDR, JFK, Bush I— look at sex and politics on both sides of the aisle. When I look at this, I think at least the Palins seem to have a set of principles about family values that they really live by and they are really a “real” American family who have struggled with some issues that most American families can relate to. There must have been some real pain in this for them and they are trying to do the most loving thing. That is hard for every family. I note that they say their daughter decided to have the baby which seems to indicate that they also gave her the option of not doing so.
Maggie,
hate to clue you into this little known fact..
hope you’re sitting down..
17 year olds do sometimes have sex
And sometimes, they get pregnant
that’s ok, breathe.
I know its shocking
You’ll be fine
OMG Maggie! And they accuse us PUMAS of being republicans! How judgmental of you!
When Obama’s mother got pregnant it was a disgrace because most girls back then waited for marriage. The father was even a married man, which is something no one did in the small town I lived in.
I think this is not such good news. It will be a huge distraction for the McCain campaign. However, I do find it amusing that the MSM, which now seems to be able to uncover every last detail on Gov. Palin, couldn’t be bothered to cover anything the least bit scandalous about Obama - not to mention Edwards! But I’m afraid not too many people will see the irony in that.
Didn’t the msm glorify Brit. Spears sister’s(17 I believe) pregnancy? Didn’t GMA/ABC bring one of the teenage couples from that high school in NE that supposedly had the pregnancy pact going happening on their show for an interview and treat them like celebrities? If they make a big deal out of this then they are the most hypocritical organizations out there. But I guess we already know that don’t we.
Didn’t the msm glorify Brit. Spears sister’s(17 I believe) pregnancy? Didn’t GMA/ABC bring one of the teenage couples from that high school in NE that supposedly had the pregnancy pact happening on their show for an interview and treat them like celebrities? If they make a big deal out of this then they are the most hypocritical organizations out there. But I guess we already know that don’t we.
If you want to read what the ignorant posters are saying just go to the Democratic Underground. Be prepared to be disgusted.
Brass, indeed. Palin’s family is quintessentially American it seems.
Teenage Republicans do it too! Shocking!
lol
And with a member of the opposite sex. Who knew?
Now that was funny.
I like these Palin people. The more the merrier.
yes this is The Palin YEAR!!
and what a wonderful family to bring forth!!
The more I learn the more I like!
And really, you want to talk about promoting the rising stars and change and hope and youth. Does it get any better than this?
Congrats to the Palin’s..
I suppose we’ll hear that now Palin is leaving not one but two babies behind.
Yep, Shiloh–I agree. The media just can’t help being sexist. I think they are being harder on Palin than they were on Hillary.
Remember, they all would have liked to vote for a woman, just not that woman (referring to HRC). Looks like women who don’t think like the Ozombies are “that woman”!
Now let’s see how liberal the SCLM and the boy blogz really are. I’m suspecting not so much.
As no one can really say how this will unfold politically, it simply provides more evidence that McCain’s “brass balls” (as you put it) cause him to make rash, untested decisions that may or may not harm institutions such as his party or this country.
Oh please. How does a pregnant teenager put the country at risk? I thought Democrats were supposed to be open minded and forgiving. I’ve learned a lot in this cycle I’d rather not know. And the self-riteous, judgmental scolds in the Republican party could use some shaking up, as could the ill-mannered, vicious members of what used to be the left wing blogosphere.
ditto
ditto. I think it’s great that Bristol decided to keep her baby. I am pro-choice but that is not the right answer for everyone. I have two daughters and if one of them got pregnant, I would stand behind whatever she decided to do.
“Pro Choice” means that the woman makes the decision. That is as it should be. She has to live with the decision. She should make it. Not somebody who will not have to live with the consequences.
Oh, I forgot. The Messiah wouldn’t let his daughters be punished with a baby–certainly not while HE’S running for ruler of the world.
It’s all about them.
brilliant post…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
The Obama girls are a little young to get pregnant, even by inner city standards.
With the way that Gypsy Rose Lee Obama is pushing them in front of cameras, they’ll give the Bush girls a run for their money any day now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZJYWjkAPo
punished with a baby ….
Beautiful - another “brilliant” speech. I’ll never comprehend how the “smart and educated” muster the patience to listen to his incoherent deliveries.
One could argue that a teen pregnancy can put the entire nation at risk.
After all it was the result of a teen pregnancy that we Have the DNC fronting OBAMA as the lead on the ticket.
On the other hand the very fact that that we Have the DNC fronting OBAMA as the lead on the ticket can also be construed as a very strong argument for pro choice.
Obama had a life we do not know much about really. blessed,,, but strangely we know absolutely zilch…… no doubt his mother loved him yet there are so many uncertainties and no trail or reference to see…
Bristol Palins baby will be blessed too into a loving supportive family and the strength of a family that will hide nothing.
I am sure the country will welcome a new baby into their own hearts and minds….
Love to you Bristol~~
I seem to remember a teen pregnancy about two thousand years ago that changed the world.
The are trying to repeat that but they forgot to make Barrack Senior Declare “I never had sexual Relations with that woman” before he died.
I love your logic Jeremiah!
Palin is a creationist, a point of view totally unfounded by any civil concepts. According to what I read here she says she welcomes the dialog in public schools. Why does she welcome dialog about something that has no basis in anything that should be taught in public school? She has an agenda, and it is religious. I would never have voted for obama, but McCain’s choice has changed my mind, something I didn’t think possible. McCain’s choice is Rovian-think, which as usual does nothing to advance the interests of the country, only the interests of the conservatives. Think bush/cheney.
Think irrelevant to the topic of this thread.
So, don’t question the establishment and don’t have discussion about differing viewpoints.
Okay, got it.
Reminder to self. Dismiss all other viewpoints. Listen only to those people who agree with you.
Another day, the same ignorant post by Jimbo. Congratulations!! You really are a broken record.
There is nothing wrong with discussing creationism in schools as a system of thought about how the world came about. My own commitment is that it should be taught as a system of “belief” which it is and not as science which it is not. What I read on Palin and creationism is that she thinks its ok for it to be taught in schools but alongside evolution . If the distinction is made that evolution is a scientific theory and creationism or intelligent design are “beliefs” which are not science since they are not about systematic inquiry and proof, then I think ok. Epistemology is a valid area of inquiry and learning.
Wow. I guess it would have been better to just hide it?
Desperate.
No. The point is that McCain is so cocksure of himself and his instincts that he takes reckless risks — his gambler’s temperament has been well documented. This particular rash decision (picking Palin at the last minute without proper vetting) put his party at risk — which is fine by me, but not so fine to anyone in that party who actually believes the country will suffer if Obama is elected.
The point is this just confirms a pattern of recklessness. My critique has nothing to do with the Palins. It’s about McCain.
your post reflects poorly on you…
i don’t expect you to understand that… but maybe one day you will grow up and realize how pathetic you were…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
wait what?
If it wasnt for a teen pregnancy you wouldn’t have an Omessiah to worship.
Get off the crack.
How old was momma Obama? And how many babies’ daddies does Obama’s momma have?
Good one. How can Obama attack pregnant teen-ager when his own mother was one - with him?!!! LOL
God I wish Stanley Ann would have used birth control…
Or that the wife-beating/ bigamist/philanderer/drunkerd/goat herder would have used a CONDOM!
For Christ’s sake, THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VETTED HER. McCain knew about the pregnant daughter. Clearly he thought this news wasn’t a deal breaker. This is what Democrats are supposed to act like.
But Democrats are sanctimonious, so sanctimonious they would rather have a Rezko than a pregnant daughter.
and where do all his siters and brothers live?
Oh yes thats right one brother lives in a shack is it in Kenya??? on $12 a month…
I hope his brother finds the help he needs if he waits to rely on his RICH BROTHER he will simply wait FOREVER!
“”" Sisters”"”
Isn’t that $12 a year?
BINGO. The Democrats are the new prudes. They cannot get over their obsession with our lady parts, and what comes out of them.
or an american bomber ……..these little cockroaches have no idea what rights we women in this country have fought for all these years..thati suppose is why Brazile called it the “new democratic party”..the old democratic party members fought for exactly what Mccain just did by naming Palin..a Lady who loves her children and who’s daughter is pro choice and chose to have her child..
but don’t worry..that new democratic party that pissed all over women..now loves people who bomb this country (AYERS)and rob our childrens educational funds (ANNENBERG CHALLANGE MONEY) ..and allow women and children to freeze their asses off in the winter in Chicago…right in his district…while he plays footsie with a crook ( Rezko) and buys a house while people freeze..with that crooks money..which probably was not even his money or his wifes because neither had that money at the time..
sometimes the best thing about prosecutions is ..canaries sing……..
Damn right, media girl. I think more of John McCain for saying it’s nobody’s business.
Yes, he should have vetted her at least as well as the DNC vetted Obama…oh, my bad, the DNC didn’t vet Obama, they figured if Oprah promoted him enough, and the Media promoted him enough all of us STUPID people would not know how to get on the INternet and do any research on our own. This just makes Sarah Palin’s family seem more real to me. I have a daughter who got pregnant at seventeen, and I now have a beautiful grandson who is 2 1/2 years old. This doesn’t fly as that much of a shock anymore. I am POSITIVE that BO’s mom getting pregnant at 18 with half African Barack was far more scandolous in 1960 than this is in 2008. Let’s just hope the baby’s dad isn’t married to someone else, isn’t a Muslim, and Mom isn’t planning on going on Food Stamps to support the baby…oh wait that would be Barack’s heartwarming story…I got confused for a moment. Good Luck and Best Wishes to all of the Palin’s. At least their babies aren’t being left to die in soiled utility rooms…
You can take a hike Right On down the road and take your hogwash with you.
What a stupid observation. Are you saying McCain, who knew about this pregancy, should have kept Sarah off the ticket because of this?
Because everyone knows politicians hate babies in election years!
The world I’ve known has turned upside down. This “new” Undemocratic party is unrecognizable.
I call Bullshit on you, that is a totally prejudiced view of pregnancy you have there ‘friend’.
are you one of those neo ‘progressives’ who are anything but?
yeah likely
the Evangelicals will have another example of living the belief not just speaking it with Bristol, like MAC did by choosing Sarah.
MAC and SARAH WALK THE WALK
Obummer/Biden just talk the talk..
MAC/PALIN 08
I have no knowledge of the marriage arrangement between John and Elizabeth Edwards, but since infidelity is a hot-button cultural issue, both of them were irresponsible to their party and the country to run vigorously for president when they both knew about the affair.
Teen pregnancy is the business of the family — but it’s also a hot-button cultural issue that McCain arrogantly chose to adjudicate on his own, before the story had become public.
Of course you folks here and the right wing will try to be proud of the decision, but you’re just doing damage control. No one of you would honestly have supported McCain’s pick if you had a chance to weigh in previously about how badly she was vetted.
Just look at what Scarborough and Buchanan said about Palin BEFORE the pick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTbsbeY5k5k
You talk about how badly a candidate was vetted–with a straight face.
You Obamots are a piece of work.
lol
My opinion matters more than any media pundit. Unlike O supporters, I value my own opinion and character, I don’t need someone to tell me what to think or feel about an issue, particularly teen pregnancy. I have kids and grand-
kids, so my own experiences serve me far better than a strangers.
Congratulations again Palin family!
McCain/Palin 08
I would have supported Sarah Palin beforwe the pick. I think she is a fine lady who lives her faith. Go to Kos and post there, cuz you aren’t saying anything of any use to anybody here.
By the way, Obot, that question could be asked of you, too. Would you have voted for Barack Obama during the Primary Season had you known all we know about him now? If your answer is yes then we know what kind of fool you are and to what degree.
If it were Barky’s VP, there would be 3 people under the bus.
Really well if a young girl that is pregnant can put this country in danger, what about the child that was born to a mother who they say married a man that had several wives?
Hell we are not even sure if they were married as the man they say has no proof of getting a divorce from any of these woman. What about all the half brothers and sisters that this child who is running for President ignores does it not show some kind of strange behavior that can put the country at risk too.
What about the feeling of neglect that this child may have as his white mother was abandon by his black father, man we can psychoanalyze Obama and his problems there are so many, a whole lot more than a woman running for VP that has to announce her daughter is pregnant and not married.
If your really look at it Obama looks more like the individual that will have a lot of insecurities to deal with which should be of concern as to where and when these insecurities may manifest itself.
Well, my grandmother, an ardent Catholic who said the rosary every day, married my grandfather at the age of 16. My first cousin, who has a Master’s Degree, had 3 kids by the time she was 18. (On a scale of 1 to 10, she was about a 9.8)
Now if they wanted to cover this up, the Palins could have gotten the morning after pill, or the RU486 pill, and nobody would have been the wiser. But they believe abortion is killing (I do not, but it still makes me queasy). Kids do this.
I think the only people who should feel comfortable commenting on this is those who never had pre-marital sexual relations, or those parents who are absolutely sure that their teenagers have not either. What percentage of the population do you suppose that is?
MAC/PALIN 08
HILLARY 12
BOOYAH!!
I was pregnant when I decided to get married and I have a beautiful 19 y/o today, what a joy she is in my life.
Ohhh a baby shower in the WH!!
KEWL!!
Ohh wee babies in the WH is gonna be awesome!!
okay ready to buy shower gifts now!!
:0)
MAC is a man of his convictions
he told us on that conference call 2 months ago he would place women high in his Adminsitration adn he started by choosing a women for the highest role possible before even getting our votes!!
and this just makes me want to cry at how much pride I have in him for not letting unfair biases change his decision to choose Palin!!
BOOYAH BIG MAC!!
W00T!!!
MAC/PALIN 08
HILLARY 12
The most stunning news of the campaign? Seriously?
I’d say Rev Wright was a little more stunning to average Americans.
What’s stunning is the way the leftist blogs smeared this family for 3 days non-stop in an effort to destroy Palin.
Do you expect an apology from any of them?
How is it that the VP candidate for the GOP has gotten more scrutiny in 3 days than the Dem POTUS candidate?
very good point…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Yep, what you said!
The revelation of Wright was stunning and proved 0bama is a racist…not like the fake racism charges against the Clintons and against anyone who isn’t voting for him and his bs marketing plan.
:::making popcorn:::
Think about it:
What else do those bastards in the Obama camp have left but attacks?
One announcement on Friday single-handedly squashed the four-day moron circus that Axelrod & the DNC put on (with the exceptions of Bill’s & Hillary’s speeches.)
Sarah Palin has put the fear of God in the hearts of Obamabrats everywhere.
Well put, but you forgot it is because SHE IS A WOMAN! They didn’t even have to dust the play book they used on Hillary, they are at it again: MISOGYNY!
Notice we aren’t discussing HEALTH PLANS!
Here is one analysis of JMac’s plan.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/columnists/steve_jacob/
Good point Deb. GOD DAMN AMERICA is a little more shocking to me than ROCK A BYE BABY.
The BO plenty left can’t say anything…Stanley Anne Dunham was pregnant with BO when she was 17 and never legally married to the father.
Excellent point, Gracie. Don’t see how the scumbags who started the other smear can touch it. And McCain knows it.
Obama wouldn’t touch this with a 10 foot pole but he has already sent his minion out to smear the Palin family.
How bout that, Wikipedia says you are right about Obama’s mom:
I was a teenage mom and didn’t have the support of my parents. It wasn’t easy. I did grow up quickly and my values have been formed out of mothering.
Thirty-seven years later, my son is an amazing person who brings such pride and joy into my life.
I admire Todd and Sarah for supporting their daughter. I wish Bristol the best of luck in doing one of the hardest jobs ever.
If you haven’t carried, borne and raised a child, you have no right to pass judgment or even comment.
McCain-Palin (because the democratic party is dead)
That is great. And Palin’s daughter will have the support of her parents and grandparents.
It is crazy the the party that thought they were more enlightened and progressive can act in such petulant and judgmental ways. They are behaving like Medusa’s parents with the lack of support she had.
Here is a family in public life that is faced with a family experience that is not uncommon, but still makes one vulnerable to personal attacks. They are handling it with grace and dignity and setting an example to many that our unconditional love for our children is more important than anything.
Sarah Palin rocks. All children should have such loving parents.
Me Too.
Thanks for your voice.
Mac knew the daughter was pregnant. This is going to blow up in the demns and O’s face.
God bless their family. Her daughter should be left alone. Obama has said his family is off limits. Is it different now that it is a rep.?
The slime is disgusting. And yes her family to me makes up a portrait of the american family.
God bless you Bristol.
We cannot let this happen again. We have to stand strong and take no shit.
Actually it is not that big of a deal. She is 17. Palin married her husband when she was 24 but they knew each other as high school sweathearts. Under Alaska law like other states, you can marry another person probably when you are 15 or older. It is called emanicipated minor.
Democrats are making a huge mistake attacking the family.
I did and i still think she rocks. take responsiblity for ones actions is something really lacking in our society
High school “sweathearts!”
I guess high school kids do have a lot of energy, don’t they? They probably did work up quite a sweat, as well! Of course, that’s their business!!!
The inability to edit posts on this forum certainly makes for some inadvertently amusing comments!
Strangely,this draws another parallel to Obama’s ‘biography’.Obama’s own mother was very young and unmarried when he was conceived.
This also illustrates Obama’s comment on being ‘punished’ with a baby.And I doubt the left wants to encourage the debate over Obama’s support of infanticide.
I’ve often wondered about this “daughters punished with a baby” comment of Obama’s. Does that mean he sometimes saw his own young mother as being “punished” with him?
Wouldn`t you? lol
That’s why she dumped him with her parents and ran back to Indonesia.
This is stunning news that absolutely solidifies this as a great decision. To hell with whatever anyone says, the McCain picked a winner who stands by her convictions. Please, let us HOPE that the left tries and demonize a 17-year old girl…that will play REAL well in middle America.
Take care,
Patrick
Well at least they know the baby isn’t Bristols.
Another example that Sarah Palin is the real deal. You might not agree with the family’s decision, but it was made based upon their own convictions–not what was “politically expedient”.
But I am sure that the same Obamabots who have been telling all who do not fall in line behind THE ONE will make it into something nasty and sinister.
Obama was birthed by a 17 year old unmarried pregnant women.
That should be the response to them everytime. If it is so bad then Obama is birth that should have been aborted.
These poeple are scum. I love the Palins.
he was born? i wanna see the certificate
God forgives. Left-wing moonbats do not.
I’m not voting for 0bama and I can’t vote for McCain but you’re right, the man has brass balls and thank whatever for that. He sure reinforces those maverick credentials with this one.
::::making popcorn::::
lol
Nice to see the young guy “man up”.
I heard a documentary on Sarah talking about oil and drilling, and she will definitely make Biden look bad during the debates.
When America starts discounting a candidate because of something this minor, we are in trouble as a nation.
Especially since all the detrimental info about Obama hasn’t even begun to be explored yet. Just wait. . . .
Especially when he turns up drunk?
That’s another thing. He slurs his words to me like he’s had a minor stroke. I hope he’s OK.
That being said, I hope every woman in America learns the way he treated Anita Hill. Sexist Pig gave us Clarence Thomas.
I think we should just keep making screen shots of the Obamabots and send them to some 527’s. I’ve never seen bigger hypocrites in my life.
It is so great to see how the Palin’s are welcoming their new family member…
…and what an opportunity for the Obummers to continue to display their low-life character.
Obama, you are a POS.
Congrats to the Palins on their expected first grandchild! This is so exciting for them. If this was the first 17 year old in history to become pregnant I would go ooooooh My but hey at least she was 17 and not 12 or 14 the way a lot of kids are now days. Congrats to her daughter for keeping her child as this is a very personal and hard decision to make. Her daughter being pregant in no way effects her ability to run for VP. She is a wonderful addition to this miserable election process. Does this news change my vote? Nope just makes me respect Saraha Palin more as a mother for standing by her daughter. McCain/Palin 08
I would rather have a grandmother as VP then a First Lady who forced her children to attend a “god damn AmeriKKKa” church in inner city Chicago.
or kill their baby…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
How true!
You’ve got that one right, sister.
Speaking of sisters, I expect every women’s organization to speak out on any of the sexism that is directed toward Bristol and Sarah Palin over the issue of motherhood. It is NOT being “punished with a baby.” It is a function of our bodies. No woman should be treated to the nastiness that has consumed the “progressive” blogs during the course of the past 36 hours. It is unspeakable.
Good point!
To my knowledge, N.O.W. has been the ONLY women’s organization that has blasted the MSM and the Obama campaign for the extreme sexism that has taken place during this election year.
Virtually all of the other “women’s organizations” kept their cowardly, crooked mouths shut on the misogyny during the primary. When they did finally speak, they only spoke up to chastize other women for not supporting that sexist fraud Obama!
They better keep their damned mouths shut about Palin’s daughter. As they have already lost enough of their credibility!
If the Obots attack anymore on pregnancy issues it will just play up their increasing paranoia and how scared they are that Obama has already lost the election. It will really paint them as misogynistic sexists forever.
While I am personally pro-choice, I respect personal decisions that others make.
It doesn’t affect my voting decision. I am crossing the partisan line and voting for McCain/Palin.
The dems completely destroyed any credibility when they fraudulently selected Obama. He is the worst candidate to ever grace a GE.
From one “Nana” to another Gov Palin, congratulations. Here’s to a healthy pregnancy, and healthy baby for Bristol & Levi.
Larry’s recent shenanigans are up on Wikipedia and well sourced. Sniff.
McCain is a Maverick. Palin is a Maverick.
Both proud Americans.
God Bless them.
I hope to God the common sense, good basic gut checks of the American People will prevail over the MSM and lies of this ugly American Bot.
I would like to know how many politicians forced their own political ambitions upon their children’s choices.
I’m either going to have to sell my computer or get a prescription for valium before November!
A shocking revelation, but refreshing in how they handled the news both with their daughter and the media.
One thing’s for certain: Palin won’t be advocating abstinence-only policy.
This is just wonderful news !!!
Bristol will have such awesome love around her and will be blessed with a wonderful bundle of joy born just as her mother Sarah is sworn in as VP to John McCain.
~~God Bless America and Bristol Palin~~
Wow…….Well a couple things are true. at least we won’t need to hear her babble on about abstinence since I would bet that is what she and her husband taught their daughter, after all isn’t that what pretty much ALL parents teach. What a mess. Poor kid. I got pregnant in high school a mere 7 years after Roe v Wade and was lucky to have a parent who was level headed enough to understand that a child should not be having a child………Man I feel bad for this girl as I went through this at the same age, and I sincerely hope that media backs off. Listen up ANDREW SULLIVAN and CHEETOS. Just back to my original point. Kids have sex, girls do things they are not comfortable with or ready for nor are boys but their consequences are not quite as dire. This is such an awesome teaching moment for this country, if it is going to be discussed which it will be why can’t we do it in a constructive and mindful way. Just a thought.
I am a Health Educator and I plan to use this as a discussion topic on “getting real” about this issue.
As a lifelong dem, I have changed my affiliation to ind. and will support McCain/Palin. I encourage ALL women to do their part to elect this ticket. This may be our one and only chance and if it weren’t for women like Susan B. Anthony, Feraro, Hillary and Sarah; we wouldn’t even have this opportunity. They’ve all worked extremely hard for all of us. I’d say that their struggles are well worth our votes!
Mrs. Palin is for contraception and her daughter chose to have her baby.
Get over it folks.
I suppose Obama will say Bristol was punished with God`s greatest gift.
Well Governor Palin, trust me you will love being a grandparent, I know I have 23 of the little and not so little ones, and two new greatgrandchildren. You think you smile now, well brave LADY just wait.
The best to you and your lovely family, you are brave.
Let’s see the lefties try to make something of this—–excuse me, Obama’s mother was a 17 year old single mother. My money is on Bristol for being a more involved mother.
It is always a challenge to find a way to make the situations in life, work.
The reality of this is a game to many that are not female and have not had to make difficult choices.
Freedom of choice, that is all we women want. Freedom to wear pantsuits,freedom of religion, freedom to get a great education,freedom to have hobbies of all sorts, freedom to run for office and not have people personally attack the people we love.
The disclosure of this information illuminates the nasty lefts attacks on Palin and their calls for her to produce a birth certificate for he son, who has Downs. Palin is also being attacked by Alan Combes in a personal way about her prenatal care..
If she were a man none of this would be an issue.
Alan Combes is a poor excuse for a human being. He is a weasel.He even looks like a weasel. I don’t know how Hannity can stomach him at the same desk.
As much as I like Sean Hannity, I can’t watch over a couple minutes of that show without turning it off.
For him to attack any woman about her prenatal care is the height of insanity. Give the creep a ticket to the moon and do us all a favor.
It makes it all the easier for me to give my vote to McCain, though I have never voted for a republican in my life. Anyone with such an open mind (not to mention courage) is ok in my book.
You people are INSANE. She is not doing anything that any other parent wouldn’t do (be there for their child). The big deal is that she is Anti-birth control and Anti-sex education. Considering what has happened to her daughter, she should now advocate sex education since abstinence has been proven time and time again, not to work with teens….
YOU are insane. Why is Bristol even a topic? Poor little Michelle Obama can shoot off her mouth and Barky won’t allow criticism and yet you folks seem to think the kids are open season. Hypocrites, all of you.
By the way, I’m sure a 17 year old knows plenty about sex.
By the way, I’m sure a 17 year old knows plenty about sex.
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Apparently not enough to prevent a pregnancy.
Maybe she wanted to get pregnant. She wouldn’t be the first crazy teenager in love. Sarah Palin gave a great response.
Then she gets an A in getting pregnant 101.
The daughter is nearly a legal adult. Her age exceeds that of consent in most states. And she is in love with the father, and they’re getting married. It’s very romantic. There was nothing that suggests her daughter was counseled on an abstinence-only birth control method. She just decided she is ready to grow up and be a woman. I’m very happy for her and the whole Palin family.
There was nothing that suggests her daughter was counseled on an abstinence-only birth control method. She just decided she is ready to grow up and be a woman.
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I think we can safely assume she was not counseled on an abstinence only birth control method and getting pregnant while in high school is certainly grown up.
It certainly makes you grow up fast, if you’re not yet.
One would hope but not always the case.
Mrs. Palin is pro responsibiliy. She is also a supporter of birth control. She is against abortion except in the case of life of the mother.
Get your facts straight.
And here are some of those progressive idiots from evil orange and their remarks- And you want these people running the country.
Obama hasn’t been vetted but just read and weep. I am so ashamed I use to be a regular in that puke pit.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/1235/07414/653/582106
I’m sorry, but if… (2+ / 0-)
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she can’t govern her home, how is she supposed to govern over 300m American peole.
by christine20
Abstinence only… (10+ / 2-)
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17 y.o. mothers
44 y.o. grandmothers
(White trash? Or is that going too far?)
Yee haw.
by irativesfo
LOLOLOLOL!!! (3+ / 1-)
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I wonder if they’d have plans to move a trailer into the rose garen if elected. LOL
For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of a next first lady
O’biden ‘08!
by second gen
Really, I mean, had the rumors about Sarah (10+ / 0-)
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not started, would they have even mentioned it?
Talk about secrecy. First Sarah about her own, and now her daughter?
christ.
A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.
by Terre on
Bullshit. (38+ / 0-)
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Palin’s conduct taking that trip to begin with was indefensible. It goes directly to judgement. I don’t want a person like that in ANY position of responsibility. If she worked under me I would question promoting her to any supervisory or management position.
“Troll-be-gone…apply directly to the asshole. Troll-be-gone…apply directly to the asshole.”
by homogenius
Palin actions (13+ / 0-)
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after her water broke is irresponsible to the point of deranged. Because it is a clear statement of her decision making abilities, it should be headlined here and everywhere.
There is nothing sacred about dangerous stupidity from a grown woman in labor. I can’t even slightly understand why it should be secreted.
by lgcap on
Actually, Kitty, You are the one who’s disgusting (5+ / 0-)
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and shaming this site.
The first Babyswap diary was roundly and correctly criticized as too full of conjecture, meaningless photos, and absurdly biased.
The dKos reaction to the diary actually made me proud to be here.
But your continued attempted to emotionally hijack any rational discussion of the Palin family is the real problem here.
Put a lid on the emotionalism. A socially conservative VP pick with a pregnant underage daughter is significant news that I want to hear analysis and discussion of.
by husseins da man
What qualification has ANYONE given (1+ / 0-)
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for her selection besides her judgement? If my sister did something like that I’d be hesitant to hire her as a babysitter, let alone to run a freakin’ country.
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McCrusty: “You kids get off a my lawns!!!!!!!”
by PBJ Diddy
Sarah Palin, the gift that keeps on giving… (57+ / 0-)
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ENOUGH!
by David Kroning
yeah and then (3+ / 0-)
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someone better point out how selfish Palin was knowing that she was putting herself and her family into the spotlight. This is something that would come to light. I disagree with all the CT diaries that were here, but to be fair, this was crap that was out there locally for her. No one here actually made it up in the first place.
After hearing the plane story (which really did upset me that someone could be that insane and that if she really got permission from her doctor, they should lose their license), I wondered if she was stupid with horrible judgement or cold, selfish and shallow.
Now I am apt to believe she is all of it
by housesella
Exactly how I feel (0+ / 0-)
I can’t help feeling that it was callous of her family to do this to her. What on earth was her mother thinking accepting the VP slot if her daughter is pregnant? That’s just so unkind toward her daughter.
Rules are good. Break them.
by KariQ on
Yes. (25+ / 0-)
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Shocking.
Look, guys, just let this do what it’s going to do in the press. Don’t talk about it. I know Palin is a psycho, but this poor girl doesn’t need the whole country gawking at this.
“Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking.” - John Maynard Keynes
by Drew J Jones
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How awful it is to have a mother like Sarah who would force you onto the political stage at this time of your life.
But don’t forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor. (1776)
by banjolele on
And I thought (1+ / 0-)
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she was a fucking idiot for not having an abortion.
Of course, I don’t work in the MSM /snerk
Bruce is still God, but Michael Phelps is moving up the rankings.
by ChurchofBruce
Not very PC (0+ / 0-)
but…There is no such thing as a SUPERMOM. There are choices to be made when one chooses to be a parent. Palin seems to have chosen career over her children. I think this could be a reflection of that choice.
“There must be more to life than having everything” -Maurice Sendak
by lilypew
did they leave rev wright alone? (0+ / 0-)
Or ayers or rezko or whatever else they have made up about Obama? No everyone gets vetted. everyone. I dont care if she is a woman. these are the same people who chastised Jamie spears for getting pregnant? This woman is and was a BAD choice.
by rajapi
Does this mean that we get John Edwards back? (0+ / 0-)
John Edwards was the first voice we have had in the democratic party since, I don’t know, Roosevelt, that spoke to the plight of the poor and the workers of this country. We let the right kick us in the teeth over his girlfriend, just like we did over Clinton, and he did not speak at the convention. I am not excusing his behavior, but that doesn’t mean we should let the republicans knock us down considering that John McCain did exactly the same thing in his first marriage. The Palin thing just shows that this goes on everywhere.
I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please.
by mundog50
Most frightening of all is that every one of those little twits thinks s/he’s brilliant.
And just as many females in that hate group- that’s what blows my sensibilities.
Might as well put quotation marks around every one of these sewer-sucking statements and attribute them directly to the obama campaign.
They are all made at obama’s behest - at obama’s urging - with obama’s tacit or explicit approval - many of the gutter-dwellers are on HIS payroll - I hear many of these “posts” even come from the obama campaign servers.
It’s good to post these, so we know and we don’t ever forget or let this smear crap happen again. thank you!
It’s hilarious to see what they actually think of most Americans. “White trash” “inbred” “irresponsible.” I’m just guessing most Americans are going to think Obama is out of touch with mainstream values and just not presidential.
When so-called liberals start lecturing a woman about “not being able to manage her own home” or being “reckless” because her water broke while making a speech or that she chose work over family, I know I’ve gone through the looking glass. What a bunch of hypocritical, self-riteous, ignorant a**holes. Sounds like the maddening conversations that I used to be subjected to at Fox “News” Channel.
I love how they call Sarah Palin “white trash” because she will become a grandmother at 44. Barack Obama is 47. His grandmother is 86. She was a grandmother at 39.
Never mind how many of the women Barack Hussein senior impregnated who were teenagers.
Glass houses once more.
I’m already reading stuff from the disciples of the one that Palin can’t be vp when she has so much famly stuff on her plate. Seems to me JFK had a child while president. Obviously the message that may or not come from team O is that only men can balance career and family. While that would make me puke, I almost hope they do it. It would be like pissing into the wind - hurricane wind.
Well don’t you know if a man is a drug abuser, and sees children as a punishment or allows his children to be taught from the God Damn America church it is never questioned whether he is a ‘good’ parent. The truth is no male politicians’ devious behavior has ever raised such a question.
Parenthood responsibility apparently only applies to female politicians.
Obama should consider himself lucky that his mother didn’t have an abortion to make her “mistake” go away.
and that Obama wasn’t a live birth abortion!
…You sure about that? He seems to be missing part of his brain.
That was cold.
I think Mccain kept quiet about this knowing full well the rabid members of the new Dem party would blab all over the internet exactly as they did, using words like “retard” and “slut”. I bet McCain has the screen shots. Now McCain can turn around and use this as an example of the lack of character coming from the Obama camp. They’re attacking an innocent disabled baby and a teen age girl. Attacking children for political purposes.
And Obama thought his wife should be off limits. LOl, that will make a great AD.
Good work Americablog, Dkos, Andrew Sullivan, etc, etc. With friends like you, Obama doesn’t need any enemies. Please keep “helping” Obama.
Obama’s already put out a statement telling his minions to back off.
He said he’d fire anyone spreading that crap–guess alot of these trolls might not be getting their paychecks if they keep it up.
Obama clearly knows how this is playing, which is to say, not well on the D side.
I can’t believe my fellow Dems are behaving so …. INTOLERANTLY.
Quite the eye-opener, this whole election cycle.
Congratulations Palin Family. Our daughter delivered to us our first grandchild in April. Get ready for a heart swelling feeling that can’t be compared to anything you have ever felt before.
I agree with a poster above. After seeing this family for just a few short days I, too, think another Palin on this planet will be a very good thing, indeed.
it boggles the mind how Obama and his thugs proclaim a baby as i liability…
as if it wasn’t bad enough that they were saying Sarah’s baby was her daughters…
oh i forgot, Obama is on record saying he would kill his daughter’s babies… or something to that effect?
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
and this is news because?
McCain once again astroturfed Axelrod, and it is great, he kept it mum as it should have been kept all along as it is no ones business, but kuddo’s to McCain for being respectable about it and not using it against Palin.
The truth of Obama and his surrogates revealed something very important, because Obama’s surrogates are Obama no matter how Obama tries to turn the Alinsky bullshit on people, and he just screwed himself of any credibiliy what so ever.
We now have been exposed to Obama’s form of change, from dirty politics to sewer slim politics, way to go Obama, you are the saviour of the low lifes in America, you must be so proud!
Obama’s mom was 17 too. The HYPOCRISY on the left with the Obamabots is wingnut liberalism at its finest.
How anyone could vote for Obama after the swill I have tortured my eyes with at the sickoevil dkos site is beyond common sense.
McCain/Palin because Obama is not qualified for POTUS! And the democrats do not deserve to win.
Palin gets the WORST OF MOTHER of the YEAR Award
So then Obama’s mother gets the lifetime achievement award for worst mother ever huh?
You are one stupid and ignorant troll!
hmmm.
Is it because Barry’s mom was 18 when she had him?
Are Barry’s grandparents the worst parents in the world?
Is Palin’s daughter marrying a bigamist?
the hypocrisy of the obamascumbots is gross.
I nominate you for DOPE OF THE YEAR!!!!!
You should proofread before posting, or put the hopium bong down while typing at least.
Please tell me if you had sex before marriage……..masturbation does not count
Damn…there goes another drink all over my keyboard.
BAD HARP BAD!
Barky said she was a good mother!
By who standards? Yours? Now that is just freaking hilarious. Obama allows a hate filled minister to fill his kids heads with anti-american, hate filled bias toward white people and Palin’s a bad mother? You really need to lay off the hard stuff.
Fuck off!
Obama gets worst presidential nominee of the entire history of the U.S.!
Well it goes to show it happens to the best of familys.This is not something new it happens all the time. I’m glad that they brought it out.It just makes her family normal.
my wife turned 17 in nov, we married in dec. i was 20. this dec, we will celibrate our 30th aniversary. and we just had our 1st grandchild!!! congrats to the palin family. i know the joy you must feel.
Wow. So the daughter is about the same age that Barry’s mom was when she had him.
Interesting.
The only think I find troubling is why would Sarah Palin accept this position knowing her daughter is 5 months pregnant?
The media will tear this poor girl apart and that’s not fair to her.
It seems Sarah put her own political agenda ahead of her poor daughters privacy and as a mother that doesn’t sit well with me.
2012 can’t come soon enough!
Obama put his political agenda ahead of America and the HYPOCRITS of the DNC are better how?
You are SOOOOO fucking obsessed with Barack Obama! This has nothing to do with him you fools!
Pardon? Then why are you here obama ass licker?
I think it’s great that Sarah’s daughter is having a baby: this brings it out in the open, where it should be. There is no longer a taboo subject, those who think it is haven’t caught up with reality. I also think it’s a bold and enlightened move of McCain’s. Kudos to him.
Sarah Palin will make an excellent VP, and McCain will suprise everyone by being a far more moderate and inclusive president than he appears to be.
(And, of course, all the clear-headed people know that the McCain/Palin ticket will most definitely prevail over the Obama/Biden one come November.)
This is a personal family matter that millions of americans go through every day. Work goes on and so does life. My mother had her first child at 17 and had 7 more in 20 years. All completed college and went on to lead successful lives.
Palin doesn’t have to not run because her daughter is pregnant.
So what if the media has something to say? They are full of shit anyways!
Obama’s mother was around the same age as Bristol when she had him.
I don’t hear the media saying that Obama is a bad candidate since he was born to a teenage mother.
If the Obama campaign weren’t a despicable bunch of shitbags, then Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy wouldn’t be an issue at all. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. HAHAHA. Her daughter decided to have a baby and get married, and she should quit her job? You sure you’re for women’s rights?
I don’t think that is the way at all. I mean, come on, she’s damn if she does and damn if she doesn’t by some of you people. Palin is the real woman, juggling all aspects of a career while taking care of her family. I’m sure she and her family discussed this as McCain knew ahead of time. Give them more credit than this. This is really hypocracy at it’s best. I certainly hope that there are those who have a job and family situations that would be also willing to give up their job if their daughter got pregnant. If not, then I wouldn’t be talking.
Perhaps Sarah Palin accepted the VP challenge because she believed that in the best tradition of American politics, especially at the presidential level, candidate’s children would be off limits. Perhaps she agonized over it and the Palins had a family discussion about it and perhaps her daughter said, Mom this is a great opportunity and honor for you and I will be fine. Do it.
Aren’t the Democrats the liberal ones, the ones that accept everyone and not judge?
If Obama’s campaign attacks this young lady what does that say about the DNC. Isn’t it the Republican’s that are supposed to start throwing stones at her?
I’m so happy to be an Independent now !!!!!
I think everyone should go to Palin`s site and offer congrats.
http://www.palinforamerica.com/
I am very happy for the Palin family!!! What makes me happier is that the Palin girl didn’t get pregnant just to be on the Welfare Program like many of the Obummers low-life followers that need help with their crack expenses.
McCain/Palin’08
and a wonderful wedding to follow :
snark? bitterness?
I hope as result the Republicans stop making political hay out of teenage motherhood by painting it as a consequence of immoral liberalism. Since we don’t live in a rational universe, I’m not holding my breath there.
Here Here! I AGREE!
Sure makes it hard to bash “welfare queens” living in the ghetto having babies out of wedlock when the conservative VP candidate’s daughter has a bun in the oven at 17.
I don’t care, but it should shut more than a few republicans up on issues of “morality”.
Bristol Palin is a few months shy of 18. At that age she can vote or fight in the Middle East. She is considered responsible enough to not be referred to as a wayward child with a “bun in the oven.”
Sorry, your arguement is shot to HELL. She’s not 18, she can’t vote for the moment and can’t fight in the armed forces- regardless of what will be in a few months. PERIOD! What planet are you on? Better yet, what are you smoking? And do the republicans know what you’re on?
And yes, she does have a bun in the oven.
HELLO earth to anti-Obama people. You give NO credibility to your movement (as much as it pains me to say this!).
She will be 18 when she has her baby. That means when she is a mother, she will also be a legal adult. The age of consent in Alaska is 15. She could get legally married at that age, if her parents supported the decision. But no one forced her to do anything. She had sex with a boy she loves. The law says she was old enough to make that decision. Now she is getting married. When she delivers her baby, she will be a legal adult. Dumbass.
What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?
answer: Barack Obama’s
The answer would be “Barack Obama’s typical white grandmother”, since it was SHE who raised Stanley Ann…
Hey, “not this time….” I advocated sex education, birth control AND abstinence (until a certain age) with my kids and you know what? They went ahead and led their lives as they wanted to when they were young adults. As a result, my son fathered a child when he was 20, and the mother married another man! I don’t give a damn how she got here - I love my granddaughter to bits! Maybe YOU should be the one to tell my kids that they weren’t “supposed” to do those things, given the way they were raised.
Are all 0bama supporters arrogant assholes?
Are all 0bama supporters arrogant assholes?
Yes, and the ones that weren’t, learned from their king of arrogance. My friends in Germany were laughing at him when he played ‘president’ in Berlin. Obummer made a big mistake not going to Italy. He will see the consequences on due time…
Not sure how this news will help mobilize the conservative party base. Really all the dems have to do is sit back and let McCain’s foolishness implode his ticket.
Another thought, I wonder how castrated Mr. Palin is feeling right about now…
Own your own castrated candidate, Obama swings both ways!
WTH kind of comment is that? Castrated?
“Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.”
Can’t be more Pro - Choice than that..
can it dems???????
Well Queenie, considering that according to Sarah Palin there is no choice- even if her daughter were raped- this is just what is expected in the Palin family.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/palin-on-abortion-id-oppo_n_122924.html
Oh my, you post that rag? Really, kids get pregnant everyday. She handled it brilliantly and you guys just can’t get around this lady. I can’t wait to see Obama crash and burn on this one.
I cant believe Palin accepts this vp offer when she needs to raise her pregnant daughter and 5 kids. she gets it hands down
How can Obama be POTUS when he likes blow jobs- Ask Rev Manning, Larry Sinclair, Bill Ayers and Rev Wright all part of the lowdown secret man society of bi-sexuals!
So ignorant one, if what you say is true, then every man and woman in America needs to quit their jobs and tend to their families when the same situation arises, how f*cking ignorant are you?
No need to answer you already proved how ignorant you are!
Proof that Bush’s “abstinence only program” DOESN’T work, not even in the inner most conservative circles.
I’m sorry, it’s not Palin’s fault, but her daughter’s. However, this just doesn’t look good no matter how you try to spin it.
hey gregory..you don’t seem to be a democrat..are you a republican “nut case” ?? You must be..one of “those people”..because ..see darlin..we democratic women for our entire lifetimes have said our uterus belongs to us..and this Young lady decided to have her baby..and own her own uterus..Gregory..that is called Pro - choice!
So oviously..Gregory .. you must be anti- choice ..and it is obvious by your post you could not be a pro-choice democrat..so why are you here again??????
Oh..i get it.. you are one of the “new democrats”..with piss for brains..I thought so!
The girl couldn’t have made a choice when her mother has clearly stated her position is that even if her daughter was raped that is no reason to abort. Therte is no CHOICE in that. You must have another option if you make a choice. That is clearly not the case here. Palin women are baby factories with no choice except abstinence!
Palin’s husband isn’t a Republican. Don’t you think he had some say in how his daughter was raised. After all, the father is supposedly the rock of the nuclear family. His wife is pro-life, and his daughter could have had an abortion if she wanted. She could be pro-choice but decided to follow her mother’s example.
If pro-lifers are doing it right, not imposing their views on you, practicing what they preach and are happy with their lives, then what is the big deal?
as the law stands it is choice..Bristol had a choice..end of story.
No actually I am VERY pro-choice and a democrat even if the party left me. I support a woman’s right to choose (but at 17, one is not a woman legally and in this case she is forced to follow Mama’s voice- which is clearly NOT hers!). I support limiting gun ownership and gay marriage. Sure, crazy person, this makes me a republican. NOT!
Proof that Bush’s “abstinence only program” DOESN’T work, not even in the inner most conservative circles.
I’m sorry, it’s not Palin’s fault, but her daughter’s
How the hell is it her daughter’s fault? Unless she has pulled off an IMMACULATE CONCEPTION (that can’t be since we’ve been told Obama is the next Messiah) it takes TWO to make a baby. You’re empty argument just doesn’t hold up.
Wanna talk about CHANGE? Personally, I am thrilled that McCain had the balls to indirectly snub his nose at a stupid, irrational, nonsensical program such as “abstinence only”…all the while emphasizing how this young woman made this personal CHOICE on her own. BRAVO!
Now THIS is a change I can believe in.
Actions speak louder than words.
Unless the holy spirit (and I’m pissing myslef with laughter as I write this) filled her up too, she’s had sex. That was a personal choice (and GOOD FOR HER, I LOVE SEX). A boy (not a man) is involved too. That makes it her responsability. Gosh, no wonder our Hillary lost if her supports are REALLY this stupid!
Number one… I was NOT a Hillary supporter. I support ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE. You know, a democratic process! Number two… It is you who displays your wanton ignorance by emphatically proclaiming that the responsibility lies solely on the young woman. Number three… WHO THE FUCK ASKED YOU ANYWAY? How does this involve YOU personally in any way, shape or form?
I’m certain the Palins waited desperately by their phone hoping that YOU would shower them with your wisdom before Bristol and the “boy” made this personal decision. How did they survive without your neanderthol input?
“Our Hillary”??? I just about wet myself when I read that. Hillary supporter, my ass.
Any “boy” ca make a baby - we’re talking about teenagers here - but it takes a “man” to be a father. Isn’t that how it goes? So far, so good, though. Bristol and Levi are getting a crash course in adulthood. It seems once you get potty training down, you can join them in growing up.
Actually it doesn’t seem as bad as you would want to paint it. You’ve just been listening to the dem spin machine too long. I was a dem and an evangelical at the same time. I know quite a few evagelicals who have had kids who got pregnant. It happens. And believe me, all they really preach is responsibilty, which is what these kids are going to show by keeping and raising the child, while they get married. They are the ones who are living with the responsibilty, not you or me. But it does dispose of the fact that if she is five months pregnant, then Sarah couldn’t be hiding the fact that it was Bristol was actually the mother of Trig, now could it? 2) Obama was conceived by a 17 year old unwed mother, do you really want to go there? 3) Wasn’t it Obama who said that more fathers need to take responsibily instead of just being a “donor”? 4) Bristol is not the name of the vp pick last time I knew 5) saying that Sarah should stay home and take care of her family will just garner more support from the women who have to do a job and take care of their family 6)Then you are saying that Michelle should just stay home and not be out campaigning (which is fine with me) 7)If you feel that way then every woman in America has just been reduced to being nothing more than a baby making machine and should give up their jobs, including all the women who are in governmental positions.
I followed the bloggers smear from the concoction - to reluctant retraction. Still ongoing
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/anatomy-of-a-slander/
It is now clear that “liberals” and the left are more interested in scrutinizing a woman’s womb than the religious right. It is the Brave New World of Obama; change that you can believe in!
Unbelievable isn’t it? But it proves how extremist, be they left or right are complete wack jobs and insane.
Congratulations to the Palins,A Nice add to the population..Didn’t Obama say at one time,if his children got pregnant too early it would be a mistake..Happy to see the Palins don’t consider babies a mistake…
Mccain/Palin.
From what I have read about Sarah,she will make a great VP…
Millions of us have experienced the same thing
with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.
Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.
No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it. I gave her the option.
I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
today, happily married and has gifted me with
two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!
Oh and ..it is no ones damn business..is it dems..isn’t that what we have all espoused all these years,..that our uterus is our own damn business…
Now lets practice what we have all preached all these years and start acting like the adults we portend to be!
It’s not our business and stop anyone from the bullshit rumours of Sarah Palins family..
Wasn’t it Obama himself and Meeeeeshell..that said their kids were offlimits..well now when any of the obama thugs bring up this owmans family..shut them the fuck up immediately!
Enough is enough.
The sewers are for rats..go into the sewer…and you are what you are.
“My family is OFF LIMITS” cried the boy king.
The hypocrisy is STUNNING.
Gregory - does it look better or worse that Obama’s birth?
Who are you kidding, sure it does. Obama’s mother wasn’t a preachy conservative as far as I know.
I’m no Obama fan, but some people have lost a grip on all reality by turning this into the best things since sliced bread. It IS a fact of life, and I really don’t care. But this news can’t please the conservative camp. Regardless of her choice to keep her baby and get married.
Gregory-
Here’s a little tidbit from that “birds and bees” talk your family OBVIOUSLY neglected to have. Conservatives get pregnant, too. I hope this doesn’t come as too much of a shock. Wouldn’t want it to ruin what’s left of your day.
I don’t give a flying F…Oh course conservatives get pregnant (too bad, it leads to their reproduction). Some people are REALLY STUPID (like those who answer posts with non-responses in order to create drama). No wonder the choices are between McCain & Obama. And I actually supported Hillary with these same ding-dongs. I swear, some of you are worse than Obama cheerleaders.
Fuck off, Gregory. You have no idea who you are toying with. Wanna get de-balled, big guy? Keep the insults coming, jackass. I’ve been looking to parade someone’s head on a stick for at least a week now.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
I never heard Sarah Palin preaching anything but her ability to lead a full life, do her job and focus on government reform and fiscal responsibility.
Oh and ..it is no ones damn business..is it dems..isn’t that what we have all espoused all these years,..that our uterus is our own damn business…
Now lets practice what we have all preached all these years and start acting like the adults we portend to be!
It’s not our business and stop anyone from the bullshit rumours of Sarah Palins family..
Wasn’t it Obama himself and Meeeeeshell..that said their kids were off limits..well now when any of the obama thugs bring up this womans family..shut them the fuck up immediately!
Enough is enough.
The sewers are for rats..go into the sewer…and you are what you are.
Speaking my mind. It’s unfortunate that Bristol is so young to start being a mother, but admirable that she decided to have the child and get married to the father of the child.
I wish them health and happiness.
And, I should add, WOMEN ROCK. Let me see a man, having 4 children, recently giving birth to a 5 who is special needs, finding out one of your own daughters is pregnant while Governing the state then takes on running for Vice President of the country.
Men couldn’t even IMAGINE doing all that.