When Human Decency Disappears, What’s Left?
By Divine Democrat on September 1, 2008 at 11:40 AM in Bloggers, Sarah Palin
Posted by: Mary Ellen/Divine Democrat at Bad Habit
What happens when human decency ceases to exist in our country? I’m sure you’re wondering if I’m going to go off into some kind of religious tangent, but I’m not. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with being…human.
This is how this post came about. While trying to catch up on all that I missed while out of town, I began perusing some of my favorite haunts. I missed most of the political news while I was gone, the entire Democratic National Convention, and only heard small bits of information about McCain’s pick for VP while I was driving home from Georgia. So, I thought the best place to get “real” news was on the blogosphere from fellow Democrats.
Much to my dismay, I found many of the blogs writing about Sarah Palin, McCain’s pick for Vice President.
I must admit, I didn’t know all that much about her when her name was announced. Personally, I really didn’t care who McCain picked as long as it wasn’t Rudy Guiliani. Anyway, what I saw being spread around the progressive blogosphere just made my head spin. The rumor mill is grinding and it’s making a very ugly sound.
RUMOR: Sarah Palin’s youngest child, Trig, is not her baby but her daughter’s baby.
Watching this rumor grow since this morning with blogs adding “Updates” as the day went on made me wonder what has happened to this world…no, to be more specific, it made me wonder what has happened to the Democratic party. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for a good fight as long as it is on policy. I love a good policy fight, the more details the better.
Below is a video that I saw on Dusty’s blog, It’s My Right to Be Left of Center. I love seeing Dusty around the blogosphere, she’s straightforward and doesn’t pull any punches, my kinda blogger.
At first I wasn’t going to watch the video, I knew it would be just a repeat of everything I’ve been reading all day, but decided that I can’t ignore it and be expected to make an informed comment. So I did my homework, and was glad I did. I have no idea who the guy was that made that video but he gave the impression that he was on some kind of secret mission…blackclothes, dark room, and the all important black stocking hat.
There were so many holes in his “reporting” that it was laughable. For instance, stocking hat guy made a big deal about Palin’s daughter taking five months off of school because she had Mononucleosis. He claimed that he had a “severe” case of Mono once and he only missed ten days of school. Really? It sounds to me like he didn’t have such a severe case of anything but the flu. I’m sure he didn’t go to any trouble to find out exactly why she missed school or check any sources, he just left it hanging there so anyone can “just use their imagination”.
Black stocking hat guy also stated that no one in her office knew she was pregnant….not one. I’m not sure how many people were asked this and by who, but let’s assume that he actually did his job as a rumor mongor journalist and asked those who worked with her, and sure enough they ALL said that none of them knew. How does that explain this, an article that I saw on No Quarter that wasn’t even addressing this issue but is important to this post? Read below and check out the link:
Elizabeth Eubanks (she is featured in the picture with Governor Palin and Piper) of Polar Teachers & Researchers Exploring $ Collaborating (Polar TREC) was waiting to return home when she had a chance meeting with none other than Governor Sarah Palin and her daughter, Piper. Elizabeth had much to say about Palin.
Of course I had to check out the “Hottest Governor in the US” and quickly turned to see her pregnant (she has since had her baby) with bags and daughter in tote. Then it struck me as odd. Why is the Governor of Alaska in the airport and preparing to get onto my commercial flight?
I questioned PolarTRECer Craig Kasemodel an Alaskan resident. He let me know that Governor Palin sold the corporate jet after securing her official Governor position.
Governor Pallin said she would sell the jet because it was impractical and that the Alaska state inventory would be relieved of this debt. The jet was sold on EBay to Larry Reynolds for 2.1 million dollars.
On another blog that I read today, the so-called “evidence” that Governor Palin was never pregnant and that her baby belongs to her daughter is so crazy that I can’t believe it is being taken seriously. Exhibit A: a picture of Sarah Palin with her husband and other children are on stage for the announcement of Sarah Palin as VP pick. Newborn baby Trig and older daughter Bristol are missing. Yup, that’s it, that’s the “evidence”.
Now, I don’t know how many of you out there have more than one child, but I have four and they are each 5 to 6 years apart from each other. That means that when my last child was born (a son) he had three older sisters, one in high school…she was about 16 years old when he was born. There were times that I chose not to bring my baby son to an event or a gathering and my daughter happily volunteered to stay home with him. There were times when he wasn’t feeling well and again, she would offer to stay with him so I could go to an appointment. No conspiracy…just a family doing what families do…helping each other out. There was never a question from anyone as to who the mother of my child was.
But this is the most important point I’m trying to make. Putting aside the rumor mill that is swirling around Governor Palin, I had tried to point out to the bloggers who had these stories posted that there are so many other ways to vet Palin other than trying to spread rumors about her family members…especially a small baby with Downs Syndrome and a teen aged daughter. Needless to say, that angered a few of my blogger friends and a few people I don’t even know. One comment made by Karen Zippdrive (I’ve never run into her before today) was particularly disgusting.
Down Syndrome, my ass.
I prefer the more accurate term, “drunken teenage mother fetal alcohol syndrome.”Yeah, I said it.
Like I said, when human decency disappears, what’s left? Karen Zippdrive didn’t appreciate my calling her remark asinine, and I still hold to what I said, it was asinine. Karen Zippdrive calls herself a journalist in her profile…no self respecting journalist, hell….no self respecting human being would make a statement like that.
Other such so-called evidence that was presented by a person commenting on this story, “Ever sine (sic) I read your post this morning about the baby, I have been reading about it. It seems very “fishy”. I saw a clip of the family on a campain(sic) stop, and Bristol was carrying the baby. she bent down and gave the baby a very “motherly” kiss.”
Now, please tell me what a “motherly” kiss is? I didn’t know there was a difference and dammit, what will my neighbors think if I give my grandkids a “motherly” kiss! Will they start spreading rumors that I am really their mother and not their grandmother? Does ANYONE see the insanity in remarks like this? And this is coming from Democrats…Progressive Democrats??
Another comment, “Check out the Internets, all aflurry over the fact that Trig is not her son but her GRANDSON. She never carried the baby apparently…but her daughter missed 5 to 8 months of school recently, with “mono.”
Heh”
Now it’s up to 8 months that she was out of school? The longer this story is out there, the more the story is embellished, which is what happens with rumors.
While discussing this on Dusty’s blog, I tried to point out that these kind of tactics, spreading unfounded rumors about a child who has Downs Syndrome and a teen aged girl goes against all common decency. Her reply (and I give her credit for her honesty) was,
“Common Decency is lost during a Presidential Election m’dear, If the Rethugs weren’t so high and mighty about their cough…family values…this wouldn’t be an issue most likely.
As I have said before, we must play the game as they do…its the only way to do it. “
So, is that what our Democratic party has become…the party of no common decency? Since when did Progressive bloggers turn into a bunch of tabloid journalists? I thought we were the ones who were going to report nothing but the truth? We certainly were great at slamming the “Rethugs” for their dirty tactics and swiftboating, and now this is what the new Progressive wing of the Democratic party wants to become?
As a lifelong Democrat who has voted a straight Democratic ticket for more years than I want to admit, this is very disturbing to me. I may not be voting for the Democrat nominee this year, but that doesn’t mean I don’t care what happens to our party. I thought that Obama’s supporters have been clamoring for “Change” from the old status quo…the old Washington politics? Obama said, “ We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.” Is this the change that you seek? The opportunity to destroy the reputation of a teen aged girl? To spread rumors about her with abandon all because Sarah Palin is too much of a threat to Obama winning the Presidency? Is it worth doing that to an innocent family member of a Vice Presidential candidate?
Human decency….”Each person has inside a basic decency and goodness. If he listens to it and acts on it, he is giving a great deal of what it is the world needs most. It is not complicated but it takes courage . . . to listen to his own goodness.” (Pablo Casals)
I may piss off a lot of bloggers out there for my take on this story, but I have to be true to myself and my blog because I will not compromise my ethics to please others. I’m not being sanctimonious, something I was accused of earlier today by Karen Zippdrive. I’m trying my best to be a decent human being who cares for all kids, even if their mother happens to be the Vice Presidential candidate for the Republican party. I might also say that I would be equally appalled if anyone went after Obama’s children in such a vicious manner.
Unless there is positive proof that this story is true, going after Sarah Palin via her teen aged daughter and infant son is taking the low road, and I’m sorry if anyone is insulted by that remark. It may cost me some blogger friends, but you know what? That’s ok… because friends don’t let friends lose their humanity.
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John F. Kerry telling it like it is. JFK won in 2004, and should be president right now. You tell them John.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnwHIVWS2lE&eurl=http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/01/john-kerry-rush-limbaugh-forced-mccain-pick-palin
OH freedom Fighter!
Hey racist accusing baby hater troll. Did you finally have that movement of yours?
In case you missed my last post to you and I going to follow you all over this blob after seeing your elation of the story about Palin and her baby.
Your a hate filled individual who doesn’t deserve civility. So I’m just saying, baby hater - how do you live with yourself?
Stop hatin on babies and children.
Hi Donkey Brazile, I didn’t see your reply, what did you say? Why do you think I hate babies?
Free dom put this u up your ass!
Obviously you slow and dumb racist baiter!
Read the post hater! What your mommy dropped you as a baby? Daddy don’t love you? Didn’t get enough TLC as a baby?
Your pathetic excuse for a human being. You wouldn’t even stand up for a baby with special needs. There’s a special place for you.
Stop hating innocent babies!
Donkey Brazile, can you show me where I have said anything that is hateful towards babies? Provide just one example please.
We just think you hate women. Period. Gutless.
Oh, play the gender card please!
Forsake Obama and the pain will stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4IFSGIUFU
It seems very acceptable by the Obots to play the race card so why are you bitching about the gender card?
ff–for every hateful comment that you make, your balls shrink and your prick shortens.
you are the poster child for an Obama supporter–vile, nasty, rumormongering, hateful.
I’ve just sent all your posts to your baby’ site, barky, and to MCains site, and to the press in my state, with the title:
‘this is the change we’ve been looking for? Obama supporters becoming rightwing, baby hating, life hating scum?”
ff, shut up!
Shame on Obamabots and Obama for pushing this vicious rumor mill on the Palin family!
McCain himself in 2000 was subjected to similar crap from Bush the Moron who suggested that his black daughter Cindy adopted from Bangladesh was fathered by MCCain with a black woman!…
yes, campaigns are dirty, but isn’t Obama the Hope and Unity Presidential candidate?
He’s also the Misogynist Candidate who vilified HIllary throughout the primaries and never stried to stop the media holocaust by the misogynist media against HIllary.
Hell, Barry even did this on youtube:
“Obama gives Hillary the Finger”
Do you expect any better from this Chicago mobster and conman?
OBAMA SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO PALIN’S DAUGHTER for the VICIOUS RUMORS AND LIES….AND MAYBE PALIN CAN SUE FOR LIBEL/SLANDER….
John Kerry inspired me to make contributions to a political organization for the first time in my life - to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
He is as much an empty suit as Barak
He had nice hair. does He go the same place as John Edwards?
Yeah. That’s funny. My favorite is when Kerry says about Obama’s stellar record in the US Senate: “he’s not been absent more than he’s been there”. Yeah you tell them John. And hope they don’t fall asleep on you.
PIGGY kosbots at it already agsinst Bristol Palin being pregnant:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/1235/07414/653/582106
check out the comments.
Shame shame on democrats and leftwinger fanatic assholes
Daily Kos BREAKING: Barack Obama Caught Masturbating in Restroom on Campaign Jet
Found with fake nude pictures of Sarah Palin
FULL STORY FOLLOWS
No, Obama was found with pictures of
John Edwards and Larry Craig!
Larry Sinclair’s limo picked him up…with some white stuff
palin has announced her 17 year old is 5 mo. pregnant. ots were saying she ws the mom of the 4 mo. old downs sindrome baby. giggle
We know about her daughter, it’s in the news. Your “ots”, are of course slandering. And perfect response for our article here, your giggle. That wonderful hope and change of the o campaign, is that what that is? You are another example of what Divine is talking about above.
Just remember there will be an end to this election,and I will bet many people will openly hold your support of this behavior against you, it may effect your ability to get a job, get into school, get a loan, you never know. Regardless of who wins the election, the perpetual bigotry and encouraged slander, and your openness to display it will be your downfall, in more ways than one.
Also you may really want to check into Libel/Suit of Defamation as well as slander per se
i suggest you send that little update to the democrats lying about palin. they’ll need it when pumas are through with them.
I think everyone needs to chill out. Obama’s people need to check into the lies being perpetrated against him throughout the campaign by Fox “NEWS” and Hannity, Rove, all of the speakers of the convention last night, especially Palin. She, nor any of her surrogates should be calling foul, when she and her surrogates, ala repubican campaign people and supporters are constantly attacking Obama and Michelle.
mckatmoon kiss my ass fukhead
i hate obamas ass and you just goyt put on that list also.
Lighten up fer Chistsake.
He might have misundestood you.
The way nesting works here and the way comments disappear here all the time makes for a strange communication world. Someone really ought to get up to site design speed and fix it. Paging Mr. Johnson in the executive suite.
I’ve been here 3 months, and still don’t understand it.
I found nothing offensive about your comment.
Welcome!
MsMisdemeanour,
Listen boy, why don’t you start using the allowance money from blogging for the asshole Hussein to buy a one-way ticket to Chicago’s sewers where you belong!
Youre fukking boring, man, shut the fukk up already you moron!
you have shit for brains, and no manners whatsoever. you are busted in your hatred. you are an obama supporter because no one who is a decent human being would peddle this trash.
get off this blog and go back to the sexist, piglet, organge cheeto
What does Dr. stand for? Surely not doctor of anything!
Do any of these idiots realize that they are picking on a young girl and her family with the most disgusting statements? Are they really that cruel? Obama(amazingly) at least had the decency to come out and say they are to be left alone about this no matter what. Also re the first story that Trig is Bristol’s son–while it is not impossible, Down’s Syndrome children are more likely to be born to older parents(over 35) than to teenagers. That alone should have prompted a much more thorough research on this issue. What kind of people would do this stuff. I am so glad I do not belong to the Dem. party. It has warped into a hate filled group of cult members.
Right from the belly of the beast.
If she’s five months pregnant, there’s no way Trig, a previous child, could have been born in April. Drop the story. There is NONE. - rpj2004 at Daily Kos
Boy they sure screw things up for themselves. It’s like the GOP were dealt a royal flush. Every card that comes up comes right in their favor and smacks the Kosobites right in the ass.
john mccain and sarah palin have restored my faith in humanity…
they RAWK!!!!
Obama and his fascist supporters have been unmasked as the monsters they truly are…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
palin has announced her 17 year old is 5 mo. pregnant. bots were saying she was the mom of the 4 mo. old downs sindrome baby. giggle
Yeah and now they’re cautioning their people to drop the first story as they figured out using ADVANCED MATHEMATICS that it was impossible. I never realized how smart Kosobites could be.
Argh, and as I start the browser the news is “Palin says oldest daughter pregnant.” !!! So there will be no rest now…she’s letting it all hang out. ‘Course, she can always ask Barky about his mother’s marriage.
Fianlly the compassion will flow from Obamaland because his mother was also 17 and also unmarried when she became pregnant.
Credit Andrew Sullivan, DailyKos, and HuffPo for forcing Sarah Palin to admit her daughter Bristol is indeed pregnant.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
wow, you are a moron…
what can i say…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
And to think the topic of this post was humanity.
To clarify, my remark is directed at FF. I hate to feed trolls. I try not to. I agree with gerard, the troll is a moron.
Then you have Edwards refusing to take responsibility for his child and Obama’s dad abandoning his children.
What is Obama going to say about this, that Bristol should abort the baby? That Sarah and Todd should disown the Bristol?
Obama won’t say a word, he’ll just send his army of bots to spread hate online.
Both Edwards and Hunter have said the baby is not his. Look this story is not newsworthy. Edwards is not running for VP, Palin is. And this scandal won’t go away anytime soon.
I hope it doesn’t, because millions of women in America can identity (and sympathize) with Palin and her daughter right now. What you and your despicable friends meant for harm might just turn out to be a good thing.
You must be a MORON, that is Edwards baby. Edwards told his wife about his affair in 2006, but then someone put a pic on the net taken DEC.28,2006 in Edwards plane, with the Bimbo, maybe he told his wife but he didn’t stop hanging with his baby moma. What about Palin, she had a baby and her 17 year-old daughter is having a baby, where or what is the scandal???
Exactly how does this impact the future of our country?
I really don’t see the scandal. Bristol had sex and now her and the child’s father are going to get married. If this is the ultimate sin and condemned by Obama he is going to lose a whole lot of supporters.
Tell me you don’t know of anyone that had sex outside of wedlock. Tell me you don’t know of any child born to a single mother.
Actually, FF, it could be a lot more newsworthy than a Palin baby, because–of the money that was flowing around. You’ll just have to trust my simplification, the whole deal smells of bribes.
If the baby is not Edwards’ baby, then why did he continue to visit mother and baby secretly at the hotel in LA? Why is the mother refusing to have a DNA test? Edwards now has about as much credibility as George Bush.
ff, you are so pathetic! and i was an edwards supporter. is is amazing to watch the left turn into the far right in front of my eyes.
The only issue here is the vetting of Sarah as an appropriate candidate for the VP. Her daughter’s pregnancy isn’t relevant unless you are evaluating the reality of their family values. If they truly valued marriage first, their daughter would not be having premarital sex. NO ONE is advocating Bristol having an abortion. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is going to be a shotgun wedding probably brought about to save face, so the PDA’s can stop because no one believes them anymore after his pronouncements on his myspace page.
What on earth does Obama’s dad have to do with this?
And, as far as what Obama’s gonna say:
I presume this probably won’t be satisfying to you, given your blinders, but it’s a pretty unequivocal condemnation of this sort of stuff.
Why do you think that so many of Obama’s enlightened bloggers, surrogates, and supporters behave is such a despicable manner? Once again, Obama has to ‘clarify’ his position…
You see, he set this sexist, hateful tone during the primaries. It was OK to boo at the mention of Clinton during his stump speeches, Jessie Jackson Jr could run diarrhea of the mouth all day long when it came to the Clinton’s, and yet, that man is still employed by his campaign… He has sent out a double message… even with his own words and actions.
We are on to his game JKFizzle.
Your defense of the player Obama makes your credibility and esteem here ZERO. Go play Obama’s hero elsewhere. Yes, you are the champion of a fool. What does that make you?
Credit them for forcing Palin to admit her daughter is pregnant? For what purpose, nitwit? Why did we need to know that her daughter is pregnant? Have Sullivan et al. uncovered the story of the century? “MSNBC interrupts this telecast with breaking news. Bristol Palin is pregnant. Reactions from international leaders to follow!”
Asswipe.
Bristol is the mother of a 4 month old baby and is 5 month pregnant.
She couldn’t do it if she wasn’t a republican girl.
Let’s admit, the Palin family is something really extraordinary.
LOL. It is extraordinary. The Oborg has one tabloid on us. It’s all they’ve got left.
Face it, it was a trap for clueless Obama’s Youth. Now they are picking on a seventeen year old who’s pregnant. Bravo. “No Humanity” is the Obama’s new slogan.
No, not INDEED pregnant. Bristol is pregnant now but was not the mother of Sarah Palin’s fifth child.
So just to get this straight, a 17 YO girl is about to get married, she is pregnant, and the Obama campaign attacked her, saying she was the mother of her youngest sibling. They attacked a baby with Downs, saying he was some kind of family shame when in fact he was courageously and lovingly brought into this world.
You are some really fucking sick people. Obama was unmoved by the testimony of a Chicago nurse who held an infant with Downs who survived an abortion in her arms as he struggled for breath before dying after several hours. He has hit an all-time low now. None of you people have any decency, humanity or souls. You are pure evil scum. That you credit Andrew “Bareback” Sullivan for anything to do with this is pathetic.
Just to see how the McCain campaign responded to the filthy lies you’ve been pushing all weekend, here is a statement from your article:
McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” circulating on liberal blog sites.
According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin’s child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.
A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.
“The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,’” a senior aide said.
I don’t know how you can type and take part in the incessant circle jerk going on in OBamabotland at the same time.
Credit them!!! I’ll help heap burning coals on their heads. Anyone who would drag a teenage girl and an innocent baby through the mud in order to help their candidate has a special place in hell reserved just for them.
BTW, how many of them have skeletons in their closets that can be dragged out for all to see. And also, BTW, let’s not condemn Bristol when Barack Obama’s mother was once in the same situation.
To bad that that abortion-inducing pill was not available to bambi’s momma.
Just sayin’.
Wasn’t Ms. Huffington unknowingly married to a gentleman who was gay? Was she not a cruel topic of the MSM? I think I remember something about that. I think she might be careful of what subjects to bang on in her self important world blog. She knows what it’s like to be placed in the media spotlight for something that shouldn’t have been anyone’s business but her and her family’s alone. Unbelievable the hatefilled hypocrisy these Obama lovers push forth.
I am sure she felt the blunt of the “she turned him gay” gossips. Even though she was a Republican then, she would have my sympathy. But now as a Democrat, she did not stick up for a teenaged girl being dragged through the mud on her own blog. I think I like her more when she was a Republican.
She switched sides after that business came out.
She used to be a Coulter-style Republican–slash and burn, mean as hell.
But then, after her husband came out of the closet and they split, she was…well, shunned by her neocon buddies.
I guess they didn’t want to look her in the eye…or something.
So she had an epiphany and started doing the same schtick for the other team. Of course, she had “inside dirt” so that made her popular.
She was incredibly rude to a crew of flight attendants after nine one one coming out of National Airport, too. They had to call a cop to meet her in NY because she would NOT follow instructions–she kept trying to use a cellphone in flight and wouldn’t sit her ass down and fasten her belt like everyone else.
She’s a jerk, and a rude one, too.
You think no one would figure it out? She is 5 mos already, douchebag! Palin and her family are real people and not afraid to show it.
This is a great country, there is room for people like you who enjoy other people’s personal difficulties. Scandalmongers will unfortunately always be with us. It didn’t take long for the Obama supporters to start inventing pregnancy stories. The truth is not going to generate any apologies either.
Credit your mother for making the biggest mistake of her life by forgetting her IUD that fateful night.
I think “forcing” is a strong word considering most everyone in her home town knew about it already. Not like it was a secret. Just not something she felt obliged to open her speech with.
obamas mom sure hated her own ass to lay up with
obama senior. he was one ugly man
Obama’s mother was a skank. She only screwed muslims. Probably secretly dreamt of being circumcised too. OTOH she wasn’t your typical white person.
Ron Moore and John Larson… STFU… trolls say the most vile things.
I am pro-life, but the news that Palin’s daughter Bristol is 5 months pregnant is depressing. Though I like Sarah Palin, I had wondered if she was anything like the driven, staunchly pro-life moms I have known who have given their daughters too much freedom and not enough information.
The supposedly damning photo was taken in 2006. She was 14 years old, and it was “baby fat” not pregnancy fat! This has been so debunked. That should be the next blog entry on NQ… An Idiots Guide To Telling Whether a Woman Is Pregnant or Not.
It would have to be written so a six-year old could understand it, given the intellectual capacity and vocabulary of the Obamabots.
This brings to mind the story of the guy who meets a new co-worker and asks her when the blessed event is…
she replies with “what blessed event?”
I’d rather walk a minefield naked and blindfolded…
As disgusting as the Bots’ efforts are, it should give us all a bit of a morale bump to see the degree of panic in their side’s eyes.
Better answer would’ve been, “Your funeral? That can arranged real soon.”
You don’t need to wonder, Beckley, it’s a private matter and none of your business. Why do you need to speculate on how she raised her daughter? I have a 19 year old and I’ve done my best to impart the right values to her. But now she’s away at college and I know it is out of my hands. Many teen-agers wrongfully believe that you can’t get pregnant the first time. They believe many other stupid myths and if they find themselves in a jam, you can only be there for them and help them make the best decision given the circumstances
Beckly- Please tell me when you can locate a teenager who will listen to everything her mother teaches her. I can tell you, they are few and far between…which is evident by Barack Obama’s mother, herself.
I’m not sure any child can make it past 8th grade without all the information they need. Sometimes birth control fails.
Why the fuck should that be depressing? Also one more thing, sister: if you want to keep a baby then go ahead - but just you watch trying to legislate what women do with their bodies. The last time that tune played it was Adolf Hitler singing the lead and we don’t need that anymore. Pro-life is Dark Ages. Grow up.
She is a pro-life feminist, they definitely teach birth control. You know, this can happen to anyone. Kids think that these are things that happen to ‘other’ people. We can teach them, but frontal lobe development is not complete until the mid twenties and so they do what they do, even though we try to give the the tools to stay safe.
Go ahead, accuse the mother of a boy who has totaled their car going 100+ mph and killed someone that she did not teach her son the responsibilities and risks involved in driving and peer pressure to race cars.
She just won my vote, by fully acknowledging the truth that she could have probably hidden until after the election, like Obama is doing.
She’s including so many Americans, now: parents with special needs children, women with careers and families, strong women who know what it’s like to feel the derision of weak men and their female minions, Christians who have already felt the derision from the Far Left about Creationism and Life, Hillary supporters who were just looking for a new role model/heroine, and now the millions of Americans who have experienced an unexpected pregnancy/quickie marriage.
Sarah just keeps including more and more Americans into her Circle of American Life.
They weren’t such diligent journalists when John Edwards fathered a baby with a “documentarian” while talking about his commitment to UHC, in loving memory of his dead son and cancer-stricken wife Elizabeth. They’re shitbags. If they cared a bit about issues, they wouldn’t have nominated a liar and lightweight like Obama.
McCain lost his party’s nomination against Bush, because he couldn’t carry the south with that black baby rumor. But who cares either way whether she or her daughter had the baby? It’s a ridiculous lie, nonetheless, but seriously. I cannot wait till the Republican convention is over. I absolutely loathe the Obama camp.
McCain lost against Bush because Rove wanted him to. That’s McCain talking on the Jay Leno show about it. Rove promised him the presidency in 2008 and so far he’s delivered.
Who in their right mind would take that sucker bet? Your tinfoil hat’s on too tight.
And I should have included, in my above post, mothers who have children in the military/Iraq, too, and home-schooled children and their parents.
From the Reuters story about Sarah’s daughter’s pregnancy:
“We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us,” the Palins’ statement said.
“Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support,” the Palins said.
The Palins asked the news media to respect the young couple’s privacy.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates,” the statement concluded.
(snip)
McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” circulating on liberal blog sites.
According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin’s child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.
A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.
“The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,”‘ a senior aide said.
Of course Sarah Palin was pregnant and gave birth to Trig. The so-called progressives, the Fascist who usurped the Democratic Party are insane. They are inadvertently making Palin a more likable, defendable and appealing candidate.
Their sexism and misogyny has evolved from being offensive to now being pathological. They are sick in the head and have stooped to lower levels than seemed possible.
We know for a fact that Palin had Trig, and that Bristol is pregnant and will be married. But keep in mind that in most cultures, IF a mother and father adopt the child of their child, they are praised, admired and supported. Only the most immature, hateful and small-minded person would find fault with such love and generosity.
All of what you say is true. Especially about “the most immature, hateful and small-minded”. But you’re effectively describing a broad demographic of people in the US and for that matter almost any country.
Men talking about pregnancy and labor?! Where do I begin?!!! This guy is absolutely clueless (like most men on this topic)!!
Is Khalid Mansour Obama’s next Rev. Wright?
http://www. townhall.com/blog/g/c2df500d-0189-47d8-a454-54de9f6584c3
Sarah Palin obviously is not fit to be a VP. She tried to hide the shame of her daughter’s pregnancy by claiming she is the mother. And as added punishment for Bristol, Sarah forced her to carry the fetus with genetic disorder to term. What a lousy parent, ever heard of planned parenthood? If this doesn’t send chills down your spine, I don’t know what will.
You are more effective for projectile vomiting than a finger down my throat. As for chills down my spine …. you even using the word “spine,” is an affornt to bipedals every where. Dog excrement is insulted by being compared to the likes of you.
Free to go b****!
Your an abomination to the human race.
I guess will just have to say thanks that there was someone willing to risk it all to give you life. God if they only knew the result I wonder what their decision would have been.
Oh, by the way, now the left has attacked Palin’s children just be ready for Obama’s children to get the same treatment. Is that OKAY with you?
Stop hating on children and babies.
How come none of you came to Michelle Obama’s defense when she was savaged by the rightwing and the Clintons? Oh that’s right, you guys were making fun of Michelle being King Kong’s baby sister.
[ADMINISTRATOR: THIS IS A TRULY DISGUSTING AND UTTERLY UNTRUE DEPICTION OF OUR VIEWS OF MICHELLE OBAMA. ORDINARILY, I WOULD SIMPLY ERASE WHAT YOU WROTE -- BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE THE DEPLORABLE COMMENT YOU MADE SO THAT THEY SEE YOU FOR WHAT YOU REALLY ARE. FROM NOW ON, YOU ARE ON MODERATION. -- SusanUnPC]
Free to go blow some mo!
Once again you miss the stupid point. YOU YOU were assailing the story about Palin’s daughter. YOU were elated and blabbing about here at NQ.
Thus, YOU were attacking an innocent baby and child. Deal with that MISS FREEDOM FIGHTER. YOU attacked the innocent child. YOU!
Stop the hate!
Irrelevant. We’re not speaking of that issue. You may find it over at HuffPo, though. Why don’t you go ruin their neighborhood for awhile.
And you represent BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?
Personally, every post that contains this kind of garbage from FF and others would be c/p and sent to not just MCCain but to Obama, further I would make all such “posts” public as possible.
You want us to vote for Obama?
“Freedom Fighter” - I’m so glad to read all this “news and opinion” coming from the Obama camp! Really I am!
EVERY despicable, gutter-sucking word you post WILL BE ATTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO OBAMA. Got that?
Because YOU are paid by obama to be a flame thrower and to post excrement on political websites - that’s obama’s “new politics” - obama PAYS YOU to post the crap you post - so YOU ARE ON OBAMA’S HEAD - on his payroll - obama and his campaign will be exposed for hiring the likes of you, thousands of you, for the specific purpose of creating/spreading rumor and filth and lies.
You’re using the argumentum ad femininem so beloved of Obamots.
Let’s pull up those “punished with a baby” tapes showing the messiah’s true feelings about young women and pregnancy. The contrast is just enough, don’t you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZJYWjkAPo
Don’t forget his live birth vote either!
Barack “Baby Killa” Obama
FF, you not only are being fed tripe by your masters who don’t care how many bad marks you are getting with the Almighty for repeating lies, now you are being ridiculous. It’s like you don’t understand where babies come from. They take 9 months to develop. The Downs baby is already 4 mos. old. The daughter, 5 months pregnant. So your little blurb here says daughter had another baby while pregnant with one. Tell your boss you want another argument.
ROFLMAO.
Hahahahahahaha
asshole i have a special needs child and unless you have delt with a family memeber with special needs you have no idea the love that is givin that child so f–k o-f.btw senator mcains office heleped us get ssi benefits in a remarkable six months once my son was officially designated mi/mr.
And what would a President Obama’s mandate be in this situation. Forced abortion of fetuses of unwed mothers? Forced abortion of fetuses with genetic disorders? Make it illegal for mothers to hold public office?
Larry, can you please BAN this person from posting here, this person is scum.
Your lord and master issued a statement to his supporters that Bristol Palin and her pregnancy are “off limits”. He promises to fire anyone who doesn’t adhere to this. I know, I know. He was just playin’ us. Wink, wink, ha, ha.
Freedom Fighter* (Scumbag)
Coming from a sore penis like you, you should go get checked for STDs. They’ve interfered with whatever little brain you had left.
What gives you the right, *Obamasshole* to talk about women should or should not do.
Shut your mouth which is located in that crevice in your posterior and get the hell away!
Palin was treated to the same venom as Hillary. Obama will be given teh Finger by voters November anyway!
the disgusting Obamabots are the most vile woman-haters adn the most juvenile, judging from their idiotic attempts to villify Sarah’s womanhood!
MCCAIN/SARAH BARACCUDA ‘08
for sure–since this Obamassholian Gift
I think I am actually getting ill from this misogyny this time. I guess it’s the vile attacks on innocent babies and 17 year old girls. What has happened to the Democratic Party? They have become everything they supposed hated from the Republicans….but actually worse.
I know imusprotest, I have been having physical reactions as well, between outrage and just plain shock; but I keep in mind over and over what we are dealing with. I don’t know if there is a “good” side to seeing this hate, other than it is an education, and points a strong finger at where our country is headed if we don’t get our act together. A group of cowards a pack of jackals is all these o supporters are. They can hide behind their anonymous posts, spineless cowards. I’ll remember in November and won’t forget after either.
Imust:
Obviously, I am as well. My temper and emotions are high today. I am usually a reasoned individual but today FF, Right On, and Teenie Weenie Kelvinie have hit a nerve.
To be so joyous over the plight of a baby and 17 year old girl is just so beneath contempt. All ability to act with civility has left me.
Stop the hate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZWAUtWQ1Y
http://carpetride.wordpress.com/
Great new video response to Greta wire…
Excellent post, Divine. The only comfort I take in this sad episode is that these hate-mongers aren’t Democrats. They are the cultists of Obama. They don’t speak for me or you or any decent person.
This is about decency leaving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v240bYbbrM
(Pink Floyd)
On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won’t understand
Don’t accept that what’s happening
Is just a case of others suffering
Or you’ll find that you’re joining in
The turning away
Its a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that were all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerized as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It’s not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there’ll be
No more turning away?
how appropos. love this song bemused. thank you.
what would these SAME BLOGGERZ be saying id it was Obummers teenage girl pregnant and the Right was acting this way?
yeah exactly.
now I know my party is WORSE than the Right b/c at least the Right is not frakkin hypocritical on top of everything else. tell me we are the Progressive party than obsess about paternity..sickening.
My mother was 17 when she had me. She grew up quick and was always their for me my sister and my brother.
I have no respect or trust in anything obama.
McCain/Palin 08
Note To Divine Democrat:
I was also in Georgia for the last few days for an event and was wondering if by chance you attended the same one at the Marriott Century in Atlanta??
DAB- No, unfortunately I was there because my sister-in-law was in hospice in her last days of fighting Ovarian Cancer. She passed last Tuesday.
my sincerest condolences….so sorry….hoping that she is finally out of pain. Blessings to you and your family.
Very sorry to hear that. And thank you for your reply.
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I taught for 20 years at the high school level, and my students with Mono averaged 5-7 months of home-based schooling, which meant individual lesson plans from every teacher and separate grading criteria.
Mono can destroy the liver; therefore, it must be monitored continuously by medical experts.
As for the rumor-mongering Obots, would you make the same smears against Governor Plain and her daughter if they were black?
Thanks, kgirl1028! But facts just seem to get in the Obots’ way.
I think we need to get the man in the 9 minute tape a vagina of his own…
he is obviously suffering from vagina envy.
Isn’t his argument ridiculous?! “She should no signs of distress”–Give me a break!
I mean “showed”
Hey Mr. Stocking Hat man(The Cat in The Hat)…..
do these pants make my stomach look pregnant?
Very nice article Divine.
You’re absolutely right when you say the “new” Democrats have lost their humanity. They’ve also lost their civility, their common sense and their intelligence.
These people can’t defend Obama on issues because they don’t know what he stands for. And besides, they’re only following his lead which is to be dismissive of anyone who doesn’t believe whole-heartedly in him. Therefore they must attack the person in order to have anything at all to say.
The current Democratic leadership and their puppet have sunk to such a low as to bring new meaning to the word scumbags.
Oh hell, why does’nt McCain just bring out the whitey tape that will shut them up, or what ever they have on( barky).
[...] with Down’s Syndrome. They left’s depravity knows no bounds (as laid out in detail by Divine Democrat here) as many, most notably that turd of a human being Andrew Sullivan, claimed it was the secret love [...]
I have one very important point to make. In this day and age–WHO GIVES A RAT’S ASS!!!
I’m feel certain the super sleuth on the video is a God-fearing, bible thumping, celibate who came out of prayerful seclusion only to keep us all informed of the EVIL that surrounds us. A blessing upon thee, sir!
I thought the Democrats would have made this election about holding contractors accountable, holding the banking industry accountable for dismantling regulation so they could loot us again…the Constitution, the politicalization of the judicial etc., etc. but no. Thanks for reminding us what is really at stake for the Neo-Democratic Party. In case anyone wants to reconsider burning the Palin women at the stake, here is Sarah Palin’s statement:
Those throwing stones should also remember that The One’s own mother was also pregnant at 17 and unmarried. It’s not exactly uncommon.
I have a proposal about Freedom Fighter. He/She/It is a total waste of time.
Don’t terrorists call themselves “freedom fighters” when we know they’re just cowards in balaclavas hiding their faces?
We don’t need no stinkin’ cockroaches on NQ. Maybe it will go away if we IGNORE it.
“Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.” Martin Luther King, Jr.
The Democratic party appears to have become a party of hate, and its cancer seems to be spreading. When the party starts smearing Governor Palin’s children, I know I did the right thing in becoming an Independent. I don’t want to be associated with a party that has sunk to such lows. I don’t care what party affiliation someone is, such degradation is reprehensible.
It also seems as if the infection has spread farther than just the core of the DNC/Obama campaign. I love coming to No Quarter, and reading the posts, but it’s very hard to read some of the comments lately. They seem to have disintegrated into crass name-calling and angry diatribes rather than thoughtful discussions relevant to the post.
Makes me a little sad. I think PUMAs are better than that.
Mystic4hillpuma- it is so sad that these people are so anxious to show the underbelly of humanity and claim they are Progressive Democrats hoping to change Washington. This is NOT a healthy change, but like you said, a cancer which is going to destroy the one party that used to care about human and civil rights.
I remember reading that the Democratic party had been hi-jacked by the far left. I forget the writer’s name but they cautioned that the far left could become as vicious as the far right.
Looks like they nailed it.
EXCUSE ME!?!!
Trig is over 4 months old. Bristol is reportedly five months pregnant.
Ahem. Why aren’t the conspriracy quacks discussing obvious fuzzy math???
We would have to believe that Bristol is faking the 5 month pregnant thing while being only (less than) 4 months pregnant. We would also have to believe that Sarah Palin gave birth in secrecy with no doctor or nurse or other non-family member available as a witness.
Is this the kind of crap we now have to deal with instead of discussing the political issues, strategies and characters of the nominees?
I live for the end of the November election so that I can witness the end of the Obama era of indecent, filthy politics. Just what we needed - fighting political campaigns gangsta-style.
AND DON’T HAND ME THAT RACIST CARD HORSE POO! THAT’S ANOTHER THING I WILL BE THRILLED TO SEE AN END TO - PEOPLE WHO TOSS OFF THE RACE CARD BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE THE MENTAL ABILITY OR ARE TOO INTELLECTUALLY LAZY TO MAKE A CREDIBLE POLITICAL ARGUMENT.
Witness the Diddy example:
http://www.youtube.com/user/badboyrecords?ob=4
Nice, Diddy video.
It may work for Obama’s swooning youth supporters but I wonder how the old white boomers (like me) who love the messiah would react if they saw it. How do we make sure they do? You know, all those straight-laced middle class dems in the northern states who caucused for the anointed one? They might feel a little alienated……
i know the Obots just want to talk about teenagers but looks like ‘ol Hair Plugs’ comment about israel having to get used to iran having nukes is spreading…
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/biden-denies-saying-israel-will-have-to-reconcile-with-nuclear-iran/
gee, did Hair Plugs just cost Baracktrack the election?
do you think Obama’s thugs can still steal enough votes to overcome this gaff?
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Seems Biden is drinking a bit too much on the job. Has anyone else heard talk of a drinking problem?
Check out this blog: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/biden-drinking-on-the-job/
And this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY
Divine Democrat:
Is this what you are talking about? Time magazine’s Mark Halperin on “Freak Show” politics…
http://vodpod.com/watch/981093-halperin-freak-show-politics?pod=ridgeliner
“When Human Decency Disappears, What’s Left?”
political groupies
I’ll keep saying it.
When you become what you say you hate, you have lost your soul. And so have all the Dem’s and the trolls that spew this kind of garbage.
At least Obama got thing right. The children of candidates are off limits! That’s the first decent thing he’s had to say in a long time!
Don’t kid yourself. He only said “declared the children off limits” because he knew attacks on Palin’s kids would be unacceptable to the vast majority of voters - that it would turn on him politically.
Further, you can believe his mignons will be out there throwing bricks at that young woman as long as they think there’s political advantage in it for the ONE - with his (perhaps even unspoken)blessing on the sly.
Don’t kid yourself. He only “declared the children off limits” because he knew attacks on Palin’s kids would be unacceptable to the vast majority of voters - that it would turn on him politically.
Further, you can believe his mignons will be out there throwing bricks at Palin’s daughter as long as they think there’s political advantage in it for the ONE - with his blessing on the sly.
What stupid peoplewho start rumors.Thisislike Obama camp-Obama will do just as he did to Hillary have others smears Palin.Tht’s how Obamam works-Obama will tell msnbc and others what to say and hey-Obama hiding in the background and if un,who me not me..
Obama is a scum liar.We know how he works.
I have to agree with you Divine Dem. Our political blogs are becoming worse than rag magazines and not to mention the blogs written by ones with better-than-thou attitudes. I guess I’ll just put this aside until after the election and hopefully it will get better.
Why yes, Bernice!
You should think about it tomorrow.
After all, tomorrow is another day…
Thanks for posting the video. It puts a face on the Obama hater thugs. They are one of the reasons McCain will win.