Susan Estrich Predicts 30% of Clinton Supporters Will Go McCain
By Uppity Woman on September 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Fascism, Hillary Clinton, Misogyny, Sarah Palin, Sexism
This morning, former Mike Dukakis Campaign Manager Susan Estrich says she surfed the blogs and what she found written about Sarah Palin is horrific and totally inappropriate.
Referring to the fact that the sexism in America is overt, she had this to say:
Estrich was asked: “Realistically speaking” How many of Hillary Clinton’s voters are in play for John McCain. Her answer: …..”about a third….30 % I would say”.
What they’re doing to her………..and I mean friends of yours and mine….what they’re saying, second guessing her prenatal care……..with her youngest child….. even going so far as to suggest she took unnecessary risks………..maybe she was even responsible for the Down’s Syndrome………this whole business of saying maybe she was covering up for her teenage daughter’s pregnancy….they are dumping all over the daughter…..I find it Really offensive….and I think a lot of women in particular….who ended up supporting Hillary because they were so offended by the sexism may well be offended by what they see as the piling on of Sarah Palin.
You can see the video here.
Overall, I would say Ms. Estrich is darned close.
I look forward to Obama and his fellow sacks of crap helping us all to send Barack Obama back to Chicago Thug Land. And I look forward to Howard Dean, Donna Brazile and Nancy Pelosi getting exactly what they deserve. We won’t be staying home as you “suggested,” Donna. Count on it.
This is the year you inhumane pigs who think you are going to subjugate women again will understand that we will NOT allow Barack Obama and you to catapult the rights of American Women back to the 60s.
I look forward to you learning the lesson: It’s The Women Stupid, because we are brushing you right off our shoulders, Studly.
You many have fooled very young women who think their rights as actual humans were always there, but you can’t fool the rest of us. The rest of us know what you are up to and we are going to fight you until the last dog is dead. Do you understand? We know that your kind of crap, Barack Obama, rolls downhill in the workplace and in the home and we will have none of you or your sexist pig attitude. We will fight to the death to maintain our rights, and we aren’t kidding, in case you didn’t notice.
I fully expect you to make another hysterical “historic speech” about women as you did on race— coming to our theater soon— because you are nothing short of a pandering vote whore with Plans. Don’t even waste your time. Don’t break our jaws and then come home with flowers. Your shameless and shameful use of the Race Card while figuratively killing off a women who is and always will be far superior to you, so that you might climb up that greasy political poll you cling to, is inexcusable. We will not forget. And we are horrifed to watch you try the same crap on yet another woman. Horrified, but not surprised. We know what you are, Barack Obama.
We know that you and your sponsors from America and the Middle East think you are saving the “best” for when it’s too late. It’s our job to make sure you never reach the “too late” phase. Your capture of the young women in America alone is nothing short of despicable, given what you really are, Sweetie. Why don’t you trot over to Kenya and be President? Or maybe you can go to Pakistan or Afghanistan and help rule. They like to shoot women on sight and set them on fire. Maybe Hamas can help set you up there. After all, they have already funneled money to your campaign right from one of their compounds.
One more thing, Barack: I cannot tell you how sad I am for the future of your daughters after what you have done. And true to your habit of passing the buck, you continue to blame others for the behaviors you have fostered. Now run along and stick your hands in your pants. Your cell phone is vibrating.
Also, I recall Michelle saying you are only home on weekends. You’re a lousy father. Get your butt home.
I also think it’s important right now to say that we women who Get It can hardly express how much we appreciate all the many real progressive men who also See what’s really going on here. I am not referring to the radical Far Left hijackers, also known in the underground as Regressives in the Democratic Party. These truly Democratic men, and there are millions of them, are superior in every way to Barack Obama and the pigs who surround him. Women do not forget. They don’t forget the good and they don’t forget the bad. To me, Barack Obama is The Bad. I recognize him from places in Corporate America twenty years ago.
Barack Obama and his sycophants are caught in their own irony. They have become exactly what they purported to despise: Threatening, lowlife fascists, misogynists and sexists. This is what you get when you allow left over members of failed fringe parties attempt to take over our party. Again. It’s happened before and the results have always been the same. MoveOn, you need to Move On for sure.
Pigs. All of you.
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She’s not lying.
And that percentage doesn’t include those of us who didn’t vote for Hillary but are long time Democrats who will not vote for Obama EVER. The way things are going I’m being pushed from Nader to McCain by the minute. Lousy KOSSACK, et al nutcases.
I agree. Susan made a very good point, but she only mentioned Hillary supporters, not the Obama buyer’s remorse ex-supporters out there.
We will fight to the death to maintain our rights, and we aren’t kidding, in case you didn’t notice.
I’m with you all the way, Uppity. I’m not kidding either.
WIN WITHOUT ME, BARKY!
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Uppity Woman
THANKS! For telling it like it is!
Sarah Palin got a taste of sexism she though she was immune from. (She said “Hillary shouldn’t complain about Sexism..wans’t there”!) Ha!
The MISOGYNIST SKINNY PIG FROM CHICAGO with the anorexic resume is more dangerous to women than McCain’s maverick spirit that dictated to him the selection of a (gasp) Woman as his V-P.
McCain said this in Baghdad in 2005:
“I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton willl make a great Presidnet”! (Meet the Press interview)
JFK was gutsy enough to not fear his foe Lyndon B Johnson and made him V-P, winning the 60 Election!
Obamarama was shitscared, chickenfed rat and was too stupid and lacking political instinct to allow Hillary the V-P slot.
So, there’s one thing for Obamaram to do, rather than wait for his punches in November.
Odinga-Obama – Kenya ‘08
Hussein’s cousin Odinga got $50,000 from Obama to promote islamist agenda and SHARIA LAW!
Sarah Palin, go on and punch this Chicago sewer rat a few times for me, will you!
Thanks!
Uppity,
I love the way you write. Thanks for your post!
leisa — I heard that McCain had sent an investigator to Alaska to check further on Obama — I’m glad he didn’t do it. I received an e-mail from him a couple of hours ago. He is going with Palin and I am going with him. With God’s help I hope he wins in a landslide.
Rod Lurie, creator of ABC’s 2005 television series, “Commander in Chief,” and Obama supporter, had this to say, “The idea of this woman actually facing down Putin and negotiating with Medvedev is idiotic.”
http://www.newsmax.com/hirsen/sarah_palin/2008/09/02/126894.html
wow, he sounds so educated… cause those obama supporters are supposed to be so well educated…
heh heh…
what an ass…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I wondered why I never watch ABC shows anymore. The neaderthal attitude must permeate right down and thru the network. Rod Lurie is idiotic, making statements like that.
I think he meant, “Uhm…the idea, um, of this, um WOMAN uh, actually um facing down uh, um, er Putin and uh, negotiating with folks is RIDICULOUS!”
Obamabots use sexism to bash Palin – then turn around and fearmonger for votes by screaming about “the court” and protecting abortion.
McCain is NOT Bush – and will have a Dem Senate that confirms judges.
Susan is telling the truth!
Hillary supporters are moderate, balanced and objective in their political and personal views. they’re seeing the “piling on’ by the sexist media and Obama slanderous Campaign of her family and mocking of women’s nature states and are REBELLING at the Voting Booth in November!
McCain picking Palin will do more to wake up women voters (including Sarah who had dismissed HIllary’s sexist media complaints!) to the abominable state of the media and the slanderous Obamanazis than the Constitution!
Thanks, McCain for being a maverick enough to pick a spunky, intelligent woman who seems to be learning quickly that Women’s issues include media sexism!
Who would have thunk it!
Hillary’s legacy may live on…
*Where is Obama’s infamous “Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” video?
Come November, Women Voters will give the Finger to Obama…at a Voting Booth Near You”!
WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER?
and who WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IF OBAMA WINS OR LOSES?
answer:
“THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELLING PANTSUITS”
that’s Who!
PALIN’S GREATEST SWING VOTER BLOCK is……
‘THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELLING PANTSUITS”
Sarah baby, you better start wearing Pantsuits!
Your ’sure win’ factor with the Swing Voter Pumas!
Hey Uppity. I enjoy your writing as always.
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
McPUMA member # 11 of 12
Alleged right wing troll and faux Democrat
And the comments over there just keep on coming: “Estrich is a crank” and this:
Koolaid induced hallucinations in that quote.
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
McPUMA member # 11 of 12
Alleged right wing troll and faux Democrat
Yeah, my 20 year old and soon to be 18 year old daughters are looking forward to voting for McCain/Palin in November. They actually have the brain capacity to understand more than 1 issue – probably not the “typical” Obama voter/fan.
Amen sister…and I commend you for raising two intelligent, common sense daughters.
My best friends college daughters just spent the holiday week end with me..they were so excited about Palin…I was so surprised..they were high fiving each other..and cheering Friday night..we even had a drink and toasted for “women” and Sarah Palin…Then we went Saturday night to a huge beach party..and all the young college kids were excited about Palin..the young gals were elated..and i was really surprised the young guys were following the girls lead!!..so I don’t know where they are getting their numbers and bullshit..but you couldn’t prove it around where I am.
My 18 and 19 year old daughters were rabid Hillary supporters (as I was) and they are now McCain/Palin supporters. They cried just as much as I did last week when the sham that was a convention took place.
My oldest surprised me day before yesterday when she told me she is going to go knocking on doors to get votes for McCain. I told her “go girl!”
McCain/Palin ‘08
My 2 voting age daughters are voting McCain/Palin and my youngest daughter showed me on FACEBOOK where a lot of young “voters” are writing there saying that they no longer want Obama – they’re SICK of him.
Who knows?
Hmm, you’d think if they had that big of a margin, it would be reflected in the polls, wouldn’t you? Besides, one the 527’s kick into gear, probably next week, the number of Hil voters & Indys going repub will grow. The obot nation is power mad & delirious.
Thanks for the kick-ass post Uppity!
Too bad the pisspot who wrote that doesn’t know who George McGovern is. If he did, he would know that McGovern set a record for registering young voters that will never be beaten. You see, that year was the first year 18-20 year olds could register to vote. He registered baby boomers, the LARGEST youth movement ever in the United States. And I do mean Large. This generation is a fraction of the size. To conclude, George McGovern got 38% of the vote even though he enjoyed a 17% bump after the convention. You see, his young followers scared the American electorate even more than the viet nam war did. Twenty million new voters, my ass.
You see, adults don’t let radicals and financially dependent pisspots pick presidents.
Many young Obamatwits will get a McGovern history lesson in the November/December postmortems.
AF catfish — The year McGovern won the youth vote — He won only one state Mass. This is how the Super Delegates came into being. Never again did they want a person nominated who would so obviously lose. Nixon won in a landslide 49 states and nobody liked him. Thanks McGovern.
Great lot of good super delegates did this year now, eh?
So this year we learned that superdelegates can be paid off. Guess they left a pretty big loophole in their plan.
A lot of good SDs did this year.
Back to the drawing board.
Wonder if Obama knows who McGovern is or how many young voters he registered, and managed to still lose?
Doubt it.
Acorn had better get busy registering those murderers, pedophiles and rapists in jail and get that absentee ballot to them before they are convicted and become felons.
..and don’t forget all those dead people Uppity
uppity — In Chicago they excel in registering more dead people than any other state. Dead voters for a Dead Ass.
McCain/Palin 08
PUMA
I hope we don’t see rampant fraud on November 4, like we did during the primaries.
We will. Guard your local voting machine with your life. Obama’s people are HACKERS.
Dead people, illegal immigrants,dogs, cats, fish, everyone on Noah’s ark…
Uppity Woman,I think I love you! Great post!
9-20-54
Homeowner and first time eligible to vote in 1972.
Committee’person’ on the ballot with my partner, a man aged 81.
Philadelphia PA
Upp, they laughed at me because I refused to be on the ballot as a Committee’man’.
Remember Eddie, 49th Ward and 61st Ward?
McCain/ Palin 2008
Uppity, You rock. Thank you for this post.
A dear friend, albeit a very apolitical one, just innocently passed along some propaganda about Palin that she received from MoveOn.org. I wrote back and set her straight.
It is shocking to me that people who are so used to thinking that ANY Republican is evil could never believe that a Democrat COULD be also.
Hopefully, enough people will do their homeowrk and find the real information before it’s too late.
I was one of those new voters, and I didn’t vote for McGovern.
Since then, I’ve voted a straight D ticket… until now.
Obama insults women like me at his own peril.
Oh….Uppity Woman
How I love to read your musings….
But I expect to read your final Judgment on whether you’ll be voting McCain or Nader…a lot of us are waiting for your pick!
You go girl!
ODINGA (P)-OBAMA(V-P)
KENYA’S DREAM TICKET ‘08
SHARIA LAW FOR WOMEN! VOTE OBAMA!
That was probably the case before McCain drafted Palin, and moreover before Obamabots went bizerk against the most sacred family ties she had. The more voters Obama recruits the more voters he will now loose to the picture of a real American woman.
Obama,
Your supporters throw mud, viciously laced with vile scum at women whom are your opponents.
If you can’t control your supporters and keep them from being vile when expressing their discomfort, how can we expect you to control the issues facing the White House?
It is one thing to express an opinion by our vote, and by being civil, but Obama’s supporters have crossed the line too many times. His condoning the disrespect toward Clinton has turned into a mushroom cloud in the way they are treating Palin and her children…
Karma is a woman, and she is a bitch in the best of ways.
One of the best lines I read all weekend is:
Karma wears a pantsuit.
“Karma wears a pantsuit”
OMG!!! I LOVE that!! I’m gonna use it. Brilliant!!
By the way, I loved The Contender and Commander in Chief. This whole drama makes me think of Joan Allen.
Leisa Great Great Comment
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is the one dumping all this negative crap on Palin.
Don’t forget to show ID Obambibots when you vote, we will be watching.
Go back to that message board and tell that little cretin that 3.5 million new voters were registered this year, and not all of them were democrats.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/05/ap-survey-voter-rolls-surge-in-2008/
And they wonder why adults won’t let children pick presidents.
They must have been hammered… the comment section was “closed at this tine”…
excuse me, “time”
Don’t forget to include the FELONS that are now registering to vote for OBAMA.
ACORN registered 65,000 people. Piss in the bucket.
Obamabot quote:
“Too bad Obama has over 20,000,000 new voters registered and growing. Every day there are thousands of 18th birthday’s and Obama gains their votes. If Obama erasing a 25% lead in the primary’s doesn’t tell you that the reign of idiots is over, just wait for the general election in November.”
The poor widdle Obamabots. When Roe v. Wade doesn’t scare us they turn to scaring us with college students armed with chad punchers. What they don’t understand is that 18-25 year olds make up approximately 10% of the voting public. While over 60% of the voting public is age 40 and over.
It’s the 40 to 50 year olds in this election who will be the swing voters and determine our president. This age demographic is becoming disillusioned with Senator Obama and swinging towards Senator McCain.
http://tinyurl.com/6aobgr
Register 50 million voters. It won’t matter since it’s ACORN signing them up. The poll workers have a tendency to be over age 50 and happen to know Mickey Mouse can’t register to vote and probably a third of the 20 million ACORN registered are already registered.
The 2004 election saw a record increase in new registrations, Florida had a 60% increase. ‘04 saw the largest increase of 18-29 year old voters since 1971 when the voting age was lowered to 18. Even so, only 47% of youth voters showed up to cast ballots, unlike 60% of 35-44, 66% of 45-54, 70% of 55-64, 72% of 65-74 and 67% of age 75 and older. The youth vote chose to vote for Senator Kerry in ‘04, 54% for Kerry, 45% for President Bush. The Obamabots may not have noticed, but Senator Kerry is still Senator Kerry and President Bush doesn’t have former in front of his name.
http://tinyurl.com/5admwce
Presidential candidates have tried for decades to win the election with the youth vote. McGovern couldn’t do it. Anderson couldn’t. Kerry couldn’t. Obama can’t either.
What lead did the Magic Organizer erase in the primaries???? He got FEWER popular votes than Hillary! And if it weren’t for his cheating in the caucus states, he’d be back in Chicago now taking Tony Rezko’s “Make Big Bucks in Real Estate” home study course.
I think the “Make Big Bucks in Real Estate” course is still a few years off, he has a Senate term to finish. My guess he would be reading “Senate for Dummies.” He has a lot of catching up to do if he wants a chance of holding onto to his Senate seat.
HA!
Does the delusional fool who wrote this know that about HALF of those newly 18-year-olds are either Republicans or Independents? That every newly registered voter will NOT vote for Obama?
There were millions of newly registered 18-year-old voters during both the 2000 AND 2004 presidential election years. Yet BUSH became president TWICE!
Did they ALSO know that MODERATES in both parties account for the MAJORITY of registered voters in the U.S.? And that MOST of them are leaning towards McCain?
*sigh*
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Yep…….and 90% of those were DEM’S FOR A DAY REPUBLICANS
SAY GOOD BUY BARFY SOETORO!
this Clinton Dem is voting McCain/Palin 08!!
and HIllary 2012!!!
NOW THAT’S CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
Just from a purely strategic viewpoint I still can’t grasp how after 219 years of US Presidents being males that women voted enough against the only viable Woman running for US President and then call other women traitors for voting against Obama.
Either these women want to continue the leverage of unequal treatment/pay for equal job titles, they don’t trust their own gender to command the troops or they still have some father complex ingrained in them since childhood.
Tyrion, we, women, are still socialized to be in competition with other females. We’re raised to compete for the attention of males against other females; while boys are socialized to act together in team sports. Things are changing, but not quickly enough.
I think your comment is DEAD ON. I see this every day as a middle school teacher.
Girls are conditioned to see other girls as the enemy. They feel threatened by other girls’ popularity, fashion sense, etc. Why? Because media and popular culture tell them their value as a human being is in their appearance.
Until women can view each other within a sisterhood and leave the competitive, (media and the average male are not helping) non-productive feelings out of it, things will NEVER change. The plot lines in many of the movies and TV shows that young Girls and BOYS watch in recent years involve a battle or “rivalry” between one girl and another. There is nothing wholesome or entertaining about it. It’s everywhere — even Disney Channel. Ever seen Bring It On “In It To Win It”? Listen to the way they talk to each other. Jonas Brothers “Camp Rock” — plotline? Two girls — conflict — once again, listen to the dialogue! You rarely IF EVER see boys portrayed this way.
It’s societal conditioning and unfortunately, it isn’t going to change any time soon. If your daughter watches the popular stuff — teach her to watch for these situations. I’ve had many discussions with my daughters AND SON about the awful way girls treat each other in TV shows and movies. I’ve told them what to look for and they can view it through that “filter” — atleast they’re thinking about it when they watch. It’s hard to keep a 10 year old girl from a movie with the Jonas Brothers in it!!
Girls? Not just girls, grown women. One of the reasons I can’t be part of the PTA or other such group is the mothers. They are horrible. At my sons’ private school the principal actually had to send a notice home asking the parents to stop gossiping and tearing down other mothers and their children. Frankly, I can’t stand them and they know it. I’ll talk about school stuff with them but bail the second they start yammering about others. It’s like they never got over high school.
I do the same with my teen daughter.
ALSO, when she responds negatively to a fictional female character on TV (”I hate her”, or “What an idiot”) I always point out that she’s not a bad character, she just got a bad script! — and that, most likely, that script was written by a male.
When I read stuff like this, it only points out what a big failure feminism was. The feminist leaders were too self-serving, saw everything as patriarchal driven.
There was no attempt to focus on issues that were spawned in the female community. Issues of competition, gossip, jealousy, envy, back-stabbing, bird-dogging, etc.
These are issues that men cannot fix. It’s up to us.
The first step is to limit the amount of tv and movies your daughters and sons watch. It’s all misogynist and it objectifies women.
I’m not one of these armpit hair women. I think grooming is important for both women and men, but I draw the line at women being programmed to be masculine objects based on nothing else but the male desire for youth, beauty and zero brains. Women are humans and young girls should be taught to put a value on all their attributes.
Then society will change.
20 million new registered voters? not in you dreams. in fact the number of registered democrates declined by 2%, almost 2 million, in july (see rasmussen.com). so where are you going to get all those votes? bye bye barky!
They’re saying that now, to cover for the fact that they are going to hack the voting machines.
Wake up, people. They are going to hack voting machines!
Good point….to hijack an election you need a storyline.
I will be physically ill if the Obama Collective steal this.
We need to concentrate on one of the states they’ll be flipping and monitor it.
You better believe we women are gonna go for McCain/Palin! Palin addresses many of the women’s issues, work and home, dealing with special needs children, sexism in the workplace, dealing with female teens who have been brainwashed into a sexy sexy role that the liberal media and hollywood types created, and the need for abortion placed on women by an irresponsible male environment, etc.. You want to throw abortion out there like a threat to women, but in reality women would have little need for abortion if men would take more responsiblity for their “needs”. Face it, the Democratic Party is as sexist as it gets. They fear mongered abortion over the heads of feminists for years, but when push comes to shove they throw out some pretty Kennedy women and expect us to tow the line for a male sexist candidate. Sorry, but actions speak much more than Democratic Party words.
McCain/Palin 2008
Hillary 2012
Here’s another doozy:
I think is the other way around.
Susan Estrich comes bearing a Dukakis message to Barky. One he will soon learn.
Susan Esrich was the first FEMALE Editor of the Harvard Law review. But unlike Barky she actually EARNED it based on merit! No surprize to us women, we know we have to work twice as hard to be considered even half as good as a man.
I love Susan. Her comments are dead on, and she delivers them in an charming fashion, always slightly amused as though she can hardly believe the idiocy of the situation. She is great!
Just read Estrich’s book on Hilary. Interesting! And she’s a good friend of Bill adn Hillary since Dukakis days..
Obama’s just another no-gravitas, no-political-instinct, self-involved-and-worse Dukakis-clone. Except Dukakis was a decent man and was very intelligent. The repugnant party destroyed him further…He did not respond to the tank-attack, to his detriment.
So, now, they picked a she-pitbulll..And it’s the only time I can say “thanks” to McCain for being confident enough to chooose a woman. She’ll bite Obambi’s ears off in a chew-and-spit-out-of-the-ring manoevre!
Obama can always go back and resumehis campaign work for Odinga’s next election. He’d make a fine V-P for his billionarie slumlord islamist cousin!
Susan Estrich is brilliant and a decent, honest person, a rare combination in politics. And, she’s sure better looking than lots of male politicians, pundits, etc., whose looks, clothes, etc. are never factored into the equation of their merit.
Sexism is rampant in this country – in the MSM, business, and political circles, most notably in the totally corrupt DNC. Keep attacking Palin. Susan is right: at least 30% of Clinton supporters will vote for the McCain/Palin ticket – if only to show the good old boys who’s boss.
You guys really need to travel around to these teen gossip boards. This how they roll. It’s stupid but 2 can play that game.
Anybody who would consider voting for a man with big dumbo ears and who has purple lips, shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Susan Estrich is not running for anything. She is an experienced political consultant, a lawyer who’s expressing an informed opinion that you can take or leave.
A vote for 0bama puts the country at risk.
Mimi,
Even though a vote for Obama may not necessarily put the country at risk, any more than voting for the trillion-dollar-deficit, anti-woman Republican agenda, still I agree that a vote against Obama is a vote FOR Women.
But the big question is: Is it a vote for women in a cosmetic sense. Yes, it’ll be great having a woman up there. But what about her belief system. Margie Thatcher ruuined her country! But she was comsetically correct, I admit.
In the final analysis, I feel that Sarah herlsef has learned a great lesson. She trashed Hillary’s valid complaints about sexism earlier on, saying that “gender is not important, a bit of sexism” doesn’t hurt, etc. Well, it’s come back to haunt her. Now Ms Palin realizes that the issues HIllary fought all her life to have discsussed are still there and SHE now is calling them out.
Perhaps, if only for a deserved punch thrown at Obama to stop trashing women and girls and slandering female candidates’ families….then it may be worth it. Like Uppity, some are sitting on the sidelines contemplating the virtues of fair consumerism candidates like nada nader,etc.
I personally feel that foreign relations arguments, other than improving the U.S.image of being thought of as a bully abroad due to Iraq’s unwarranted invasion, are not the deciding factor. As Eisenhower said in 1960, “beware of the military-industrial empire”. Bush taught us that a trillion bucks deficit fighting unstrategic, dumb wars is dumb! McCain or obama, it’s the same thing. Obama’s billionaire backers are the same as McCain’s.
A vote for Obama, though, may put women at risk–and that’s probably what’s going to bring the vital swing vote of the Travelling Pantsuit to McCain’s corner. After all, he put his money where his mouth is, unlike obama. He appointed a spunky, smart, competent woman as his V-P who hopefully has learned that feminism plays a role in politics if she wants to survive her nomination…
New voters aren’t something I would put stock in unless they actually show up.
Kind of like P.Diddy’s Vote or Die drama the last time with MTV. Guess what?? The little slackers didn’t show up to vote.
If that’s what you’re investing in, I would be worried Barry.
He knows how to get ‘em to show up.
All the AA radios were pumping out the rhetoric claiming Clinton was pulling all kinds of racist trick against Obambi.
Remember Daily Kos “proving” that Clinton deliberately made Obama look darker in a photo on her website?
They’ll be giving McCain the same treatment.
I did hear that certain places are paying people to vote… unethical but not illegal where they do it.
I think that needs to change. We also need to make it illegal for campaigns and organizations that support one candidate over another to drive people to polls.
Yes, let’s get out the vote, but the transportation needs to be impartial. There are vulnerable groups that were exploited this year. As a special education teacher, I am just rip rearing mad about it!
Two decades some people in WNC went to jail for buying votes. It is highly illegal.
Let them pump them out. What he has already seen is what he’s gonna get. He will lost the independents and rural votes to palin. He needed them just like he needed us.
See why I had to change my given name to a moniker?
I think we’re going to discover that now racism will be fair game.
And now we get to throw the ‘whiner’ label back at them.
Luv you uppity!
Make that 30 percent plus 1!
Actually there are only 12 of us PUMAs according to “Kelvin the absolute zero.”
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
McPUMA member # 11 of 12
Alleged right wing troll and faux Democrat
Ooops, 12? I better tell that guy I work with that there’s more than one of us…
When I said to him today that “many women” have the view that a vote for McCain is a vote against the takeover of the Democratic party that many of us have called home for decades, here are some of the things I heard:
* Don’t go saying that you speak for “many women”, because you’re just one, singular
* You’re a Republican or Libertarian in disguise, must be
* Don’t vote against your self-interest out of spite
They still don’t get it. They don’t get that while voting McCain may or may not be in my short-term interests (I’m not sure), it’s in my long-term interests to try to send a message to the Democratic party any way that I can, that their recent conduct is not what I support with votes or dollars.
Yes. I am PUMA member #11.000018
Oops, the decimal point is on the wrong place. Oh well.
Uppity thanks for the article.
Hey I added what you wanted to the menu.
McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
McPUMA member # 11 of 12
Alleged right wing troll and faux Democrat
Hi Chick. How are ya girl?
Hi Chick — What do you think of Estrich saying 30%of Hill Dems will support McCain this year? I am over the moom about Palin. The dumbest to watch is Obama running against Palin. Isn’t McCain his opponent? God how this guy hates women.
No doubt. He was angry he was no longer the new hot thing. Insult to injury.
I’ve noticed that my male Dem friends who supported BO from the start, w/o ever even considering Hillary, were never married and don’t have successful, romantic relationships with women. The kind of misogynists that fancy women, but can’t get one.
Hey! I’m hopelessly single and probably couldn’t get a date to save my life and think Obama represents Bush’s third term as much as McCain does while Obama is far worse because his stance is predicated on distortions and selective readings.
Hillary, while not perfect (my first choice was Kucinich, of course), was a much better choice than Obama. At least with Hillary, I can put daylight between the two candidates. The same cannot be said for Obama.
Cheeto dicks. They sit at the computer watching porn and eating cheetos.
You have ruined Cheetos for me forever!
What a horrible mental picture….
EEwwwww!
LOL!
How can that 30 percentage be increased. We need more women votes for Sarah.
I would rather see an American woman in the White House than an Arabian/African halfbreed. I still do not believe he is an American.
Troll.
Kindly do not post racist comments here.
maq — Phil Berg who is suing Obama claiming he is illegitimately running for the presidency says Obama was not born in this country. Drip Drip Drip
Maq
Shut your mouth. Racist comments about presidential candidates are beyond the pale.
Go back to your Obama port vieweing station and spit out the Cheetos with meth on them!
Get lost, Racist Sexist Pig!
Maq
If you’re a Republican racist/sexist piglet….
GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE!
We do not want to view your DISGUSTING RACIST COMMENTS or SEXIST…
go away – you don’t belong here. Pack your passport and hit the road to bible belt land
Obama is a product of Chicago Democratic Machine politics and I have no intention of voting for him.
He has sold his soul to have the support of Mayor Daley and the remnants of the machine that was much more powerful under the first Mayor Daley.
I’ve lived in the Chicago area most of my life. Not everyone in the city is involved in politics.
I ask that people stop referring to the Chicago area as thug land out of consideration for those of us who do not support Obama.
Mar I try.
Your comments would lead us to believe that:
Obama = the Manchurian Candidate?
Thank you Uppity!!!
Another 30 % plus 1 here……one of Hillary’s 18 million cracks proudly voting McCain/Palin!
I’m one of those cracks too and voting McCain/Palin- my first republican vote ever.:-)
If you are going to be a crack, you might as well be wise.
I’m watching the Republican convention right now and I am so happy to see them standing up for Palin. All this crap they have put out about Palin is going to backfire bigtime.
Yep. Fred Thompson is doing a great job standing up for her. Even GW did a good job amazingly enough. How refreshing to hear people actually say how grreat America, Americans, and our military our. Country first and pride in it. Finally something good to hear and see that washes away the slime that’s been falling the last week and a half. Good for them.
Did the Democratic Convention honor vets in this way? I do not recall… to be fair, I only watched Hillary and Bill, but I did read about the convention.
Me too
Good going Uppity! I’m Republican for a day on Nov. 4th.
McCain/Palin ‘08
ladies, do we really want 4 years of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmawTlbzFCk
What we really don’t want is 5 more seconds of Obots.
That was sad to me… It felt forced.
I mean the Stevie Wonder (whatever it was supposed to be) tribute… He seemed sad to me.
They’re desperate to drive Palin off of the Republican ticket. Why? Obama needs the votes. They know with Palin on the ticket many women may vote for McCain.
First they’ll try to destroy Palin. Then if McCain does drop her they cry out about the GOP doesn’t support women. Forgetting, of course, that the Democrats tried to get Hillary out of the race as early as January.
It’s not going to work. From watching the convention it is clear that the Republicans are committed to Palin.
She just took the independents away from Obama.
And with the attack on Bristol, the young female vote. And probably the 18 to 21 male vote too in many cases.
lark — and how about single moms? They are not amused to be attacked by the Democrats for working hard raising a family and playing by the rules. Michelle criticizes Sarah for working and having kids. Seems Michelle has two daughters she leaves everyday. What hypocrites these people are! Obama carries on about Palin’s daughter being pregnant and his own mom was a teenage single mom. Hypocrisy and Hubris are all Obama stands for.
Exactly, s hall….they tell single moms to get out and work even if they don’t have a support system for their kids!
buzz latte — Thank you and your family.
It wouldn’t matter to me..if Obama handed out 1 million bucks to me ..i would never vote for him..no matter what..i sepnt a lifetime workimng for womens rights..a vote for Obama would mean i pissed away my life..i do not believe i did..as i saw in my workplace women get respect..a union, equal rights..better working hours and conditions, and a pension of which today I collect.
I will never ever ..no matter what the situation is..ever vote for Obama.
Obama has taken women back to a place i thought we left decades ago.
I feel sorry for the young women who have been used by Obama and his bullshit and lies.
If you give up a “right”..you never get it back young ladies..i assure you of that.
If you give up your self worth and self respect..you never get it back young ladies..i assure you of that.
Thank you Uppity ..you tell it like it is!!
Thank you Queenie. Ditto.
yup, remember:
Hillary drop out of the race!
same old, same old drumbeat. the bots just pick up right where they left off.
30% +6 from our household. Some even voted for Obama in the primary, but are as sorry as hell now.
They know they have no excuse.
McCain/Palin 2008
30%+ 1 extra (I don’t count myself) from my household, because my gf was going to sit this one out before Palin was added.
I’m a Clinton supporter from the beginning. I will do anything to prevent a creationist from getting into the White House, including voting for obama. Even at that, I’m hoping that Larry or Berg or someone else will find a way to bring obama down. Maybe some of you that aren’t right wing trolls will take the time to seriously understand why people who advocate even discussing creationism in schools are working to infect our children with their brand of ignorance.
Too bad you can’t read, jimbo. Why don’t you go blog with the other cheeto eaters.
Palin said both should be taught, as did your friggin messiah.
Fred Thompson just gave Sarah Palin a fabulous endorsement, and said that while she was running the state, BO was doing the cocktail circuit.
Go Sarah!!!
he needs to sit the f*k down. he’s scaring ppl with the war stories.
John McCain has balls unders his balls? what was that.
I hope he doesn’t ruin it for our Sarah.
For the Republican base, he’s doing exactly what he should be doing.
Thank you Fred!
jimbo must be worried he won’t go to heaven or hell. you bring up creationism evrey day. You must be really paranoid but I think we can safely say you came from a monkey which was created by_______ you may fill in the blank.
I’m a Clinton supporter from the beginning. I will do anything to prevent a creationist from getting into the White House, including voting for obama. Even at that, I’m hoping that Larry or Berg or someone else will find a way to bring obama down. Maybe some of you that aren’t right wing trolls will take the time to seriously understand why people who advocate even discussing creationism in schools are working to infect our children with their brand of ignorance
You saying ” Im a Clinton supporter”, is like me saying ” I’m a virgin”.
Teach your children what you want them to know at home. Tell them that creationism crap is silly. That’s what I do.
Obama and his minions must be humiliated in November.
Obama campaigned with Donnie “Kill Gays” McClurkin, and he and Michelle “Kill Whitey” Obama attended a God Damn AmeriKKKa church. Obama also claims he is a “committed Christian.” He is a creationist, and Hussein Obama believes Evangelicals will vote for him.
I fear Obama more than I do Palin.
Let people make their own minds as to how the world and life came out to be. It takes a life and then some to really get that resolved. Worry about a demagog gaining the power of the White House to throw it you face and make you pay for your naivete. If you can cite one thing that is originally created by Obama one idea that is his, but everything he said is stolen and he betrayed Hillary and stole what she gave him in confidence. The man is worth nothing in my estimation. He will betray the Democratic Party and begin a military campaign in Africa.
A friend of mine was home-schooled on PEI, and he has been working on the Mars Rover for the past years. He may be on the next Canadian astronaut team, and creationism did nothing to hamper his understanding of science. In fact, Sarah Palin’s parents were both elementary school teachers, and her father taught science. She has a healthy love of it and is very broad-minded and progressive, actually. As for my friend, he had a breakthrough in nanotech inspired by the book of Genesis and photosynthesis. Didn’t you ever watch Star Trek, anyway? It was totally Star Trek III: The Search For Spock.
look that isn’t what she said. i understand you have concerns. i don’t care for creation being taught either. i’ll vote for mccain. i love my country too much to let her go down the tubes for something that won’t come to pass. that is my thought. go read up on her opinions.
Does anyone remember how
“Obama Girl” couldn’t be bother to VOTE for Obama in the primaries?
All McCain has to do is throw a free beer blast and concert in major cities starting the night before Election Day and let it keep running.
How can we explain to the Obamots that their guy gives normal people the creeps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4IFSGIUFU
Amen. He makes my skin crawl – always has.
makeji — Obama gives me nightmares. The purple lip people were coming after me.
The Bots can’t admit our numbers because our movement would grow bigger.
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Do you hear it? Its the sound of the Republican Clean Sweeper being turned on! Barky get in a corner cause there coming to get ya! Bwaahhhhhaaaaaaa
Repubs just came out swinging
And God Damn Michelle Obama for hating women. Michelle Obama betrayed her sex, demonstrating again that some women will do anything for money. And Michelle, we know, is obsessed with money, especially Rezko cash.
And Oprah, too. I hope she and her show plummet!
I believe Oprah discovered her mistake and has been lying low, has she not?
someone forgot to tell her that during the dem convention. wasn’t she there?
Obama is pulling a “Frye” on Oprah.
Not so low at the Democratic Convention, however. Has Oprah gone to it before she annointed The One? I was at Border’s today and saw the cover of Newsweek which has Barry bin Biden on the cover and I turned it away so no one would have look at their faces while standing in line. I also saw Oprah’s magazine, and since this election I have found myself disliking her alot and hope her magazine sales continue to drop.
I hope the View gets canceled too. It used to be fairly unbiased,but now it is 3 crazy, far left Obamanots and 1 normal woman (Elizabeth). It used to be an interesting debate show, but now it is just a beat up Elizabeth day every day.
You’ve got a way with words that I love!
And how did Ms.Estrich effort with Dukakis work out? Oh, that’s right she lost. She lost because she failed to counter the Willie Horton smear. Interesting how all these failures like Estrich and Carville and others are trying to tell Obama how to run his campaign. Obama only managed to defeat the deepest, most entrenched political machine the Democrats have seen since Richard Daily went into that big precinct in the sky.
Tell me uppity how is electing a dyed-in-the-wool misogynist like McCain and an anti-choice religious zealot V.P. going to help the cause of women? Once moderate women get a gander at the bat-shit crazy policies of the Republicans they will loose all interest in “punishing” Obama. McCain admits to treating his first wife like shit; there is huge cloud of rumors that he has not been much better to Cindy McMoneybags.
The man is an absolute Neanderthal when it comes to womens issues as is the rest of the Republican brand. Ms Palin is yet another example of the anti-feminist tendencies of the Republicans. Say good-by to Roe and hello to back ally abortions if McCain/Palin get into office. But if those women die in those back-ally abortions it serves them right for not voting for Hillary, right? And it is the Obama voters who are cultist?!
We hate you Obots so much we want you to lose and go away.
Don’t waste your time trying to convert us.
Go over and check out the hate-filled obot video on Pumapac. I’m even questioning Darwinism these days. It would be an evolutionary step forward if Obama’s supporters crawled out of the slime now and proved Darwin correct.
Why don’t you tell us how Donkey Brazile completely f**ked it up for Gore in 2000. Oh and Dukakis had to fire her sorry ass in ‘88 for spreading false rumors about Bush Sr.
Well, the old girl has’nt lost her touch yet for screwing over the dems every chance she gets.
Don’t forget to thank her among others when Nobama is royally humiliated and defeated in November.
I’m a moderate and I got a gander and can’t wait
to punish Obummer! What the hell do you know, Obot?
You know what’s interesting about you fringe socialists? You hate everybody’s money but you are always trying to get a piece of everybody’s pie for free while you sit on your lazy asses.
Umm, Jamesy, Who ran gore’s campaign again? Oh, that’s right the new “architect” Donna (and her boyz from) Brazile.
And oh look ! She also the one calling the shots in the DNC now. Hmmmm, she couldn’t even deliver Gore’s own HOME STATE! And don’t forget how she completely %&ked up Fla. Don’t be a dork James
that’s dang funny. pot calling kettle black aren’t you james. i have never in my entire life seen hatred for women as i have from democrats. obama treats all women like shit except for perhaps his daughters. punish obama? hell no! i love my country and despise what obama now represents. so can the bull!
stodgie — Palin is running for VP so Obama is running against her, claiming he has more experience than Palin. Only problem is his opponent is McCain. Obama is cracking up and if we had a media who cared about such things they should lead this insecure narciscist off the stage and get him into a straight jacket.
Carville is a loser? Where were you in 1992?
Obots believe a Clinton win counts as a Democrat loss.
LOL!
yes lets look at the winners who have supported Obama..shall we?
Donna Brazile..stole my vote in Florida..and that of the people of Michigan..has never won a damn thing for anyone..
Ted Kennedy..threw a hissy fit when he lost big time ..for pres
Al Gore..we all know how that went down
John Kerry who folded like a wet towel and wouldn’t fight for a count in Ohio
ahh yes..Team Obama..the team that never won a damn thing!!
Don’t forget Ted Kennedy’s record with women. If there ever was a man with no respect for women it is good ol’ Ted Kennedy.
Obama won because clinton gave up her delegates to him.
You are just tooo stupid. There are morning after pills and RU486 now. No more back alley abortions no matter how much you Obamanots try to scare us. Maybe it is time we all took a look at the promiscuity going on in American social/sexual environment. 1 in 4 teenage girls have an STD and 1 in every 2 AA girls. AIDS isn’t gone and teenagers are the most likely to get it. Abortion was relevant to women who had gotten in a real jam in a more innocent time. Not as a regular part of birth control. Now days young teens really shouldn’t be having sex period. The only way to be assured that a person doesn’t get AIDS, an STD, a baby or anything else is abstinence.
I think catfish is just a fish that has everthing all wrong, you see this house hold has a daughter that just turn 18 and has just register with 5 of her friend,s and are going to help McCain get elected and gues what she help change my husband, and son and my daughter inlaw change to inde. So you are so wrong catfish, that what you say sounds and smell like a fish. Vote McCain08. Hillary 12, but never ever women hater obama
I read somewhere that McCain only needs 15% of Clinton supporters to create an insurmountable lead over BO and win the GE. It’s over for Nobama. 30% would truly be a landslide victory for McCain.
Remember 4 years ago Bush was able to beat Kerry with only 6% of registered dems voting for him.
On November 4 REAL Democrats take back our party and start cleaning house by defeating Nobama and his cohorts. We can only do that by VOTING for McCain….at least he’s a decent human being.
And then 2012 HILLARY CLINTON ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!
That’s correct Catherine and things just got worse. All those “bitter hicks” from small towns are in love with Palin.
If McCain beats Obama with the Hillary vote, Hillary will be the boss of the Senate and McCain will negotiate with her on universal health care.
catherine — Mike Huckabee said that McCain only needs 4% of Democrats to win in 08.
I hope ya’ll are watching the GOP convention they are hitting Obama and the dems HARD. I mean they are literally crucifying them. I fucking love it. I just got a tingle bwahhaaaaaaaaaaa
I never knew Fred Thompson was such a powerful speaker. He’s tearing Barky and the DNC a new asshole.
drama lessons.
check out his movies, & TV series Law & Order.
fred did a very good job.
I would have never believed in a million years I’d be sitting here in 2008 cheering the REPUBLICANS on. Good job, Obama, for pushing me away from a party I have been a member of my entire adult life!
I agree. It pains me to say this, but our party, the party of FDR, Truman, JFK, Bobby…has been stolen from us.
bud white maybe when they lose in a landslide they will move the DNC back to DC. Payback is such a bitch
I agree…but I am not upset anymore. I am loyal to no party, only to what is good and right. I lay my head on my pillow each night knowing I stood up for that. And that is enough.
wodjie — I had an e-mail war with an acquaintance of mine today. She sent me so garbage on Palin and I said politely I wasn’t interested and that I was voting for McCain. She said I was destroying the Democratic Party. The Dems are getting a might nervous. Little ole me couldn’t destroy the Democratic Party by myself but with all your help its possible.
Yup. Strange isn’t it. That’s how badly the Dems messed up.
Watching. Wow. I have so much respect for McCain’s service.
I don’t. I have more respect now for Palin than I do for McCain.
McCain lost me when he coddled with the former evangelicals that skewered him in 2000. I’m not sure anything McCain could do to restore the respect I used to have for him.
Palin, on the other hand is helping the right with it’s argument about “leftwing” media bias. It’s hard to convince people that this bias is an illusion as the media drone on about pregnancies.
I thought Fred Thompson did an excellent job on speaking about McCain. See Republicans don’t “eat their own” like the Dem’s did to Hillary. But that’s ok….I’m over it. Hillary went on to endorse Obama, right or wrong, I don’t agree w it. That just makes it even that much easier to vote for McCain and Palin.
Was talking to friends, been watching Fox news all day…..people are FIRED UP ABOUT PALIN. Just remember when the Obama camp begins spewiing their sewer mouths, it is because of fear….they reek of it. They know McCain just sealed up the election w Palin. They are so desperate…..
Yahoo! Soldier4! Loved your videos….
I’d say at least 30%. That’s a minimum…I predict more like 40-50%.
I know I’m getting very tired of Democratic surrogates, Obama and Biden saying any Hillary supporter who thinks about voting for McCain is stupid. (Seems a strange way to court a vote.) I know I’m getting very tired of the Democratic leadership and media who say they want a new day in politics, but seem to be working harder to tear down people than to discuss ideas.
The way in which they have handled the announcement of Palin as a running mate for McCain is both laughable and terribly sad. First they paint Palin as a liar. Then Obama can only mention she is a mayor. (Guess no one has told him yet that Palin is a governor.) Now the talking point is that Democrats are just SO concerned because Palin was not vetted properly. Even if that was so. It’s none of their business! Basically, they are so scared of Palin they are willing to destroy her and her 17 year old daughter just to keep themselves ahead in the polls.
Me…I can’t wait to pull the lever and vote for McCain/Palin. Never thought it would feel good to vote for a Republican…but it’s going to feel very, very good and more importantly very, very right for the country.
Well said, MJ. The thought of pushing the lever for McCain/Palin is sounding like something I can do after 30 years as a Democrat. I can’t stand the militant, corrupt sexist Dems for forcing me to make this decision.
Obama’s insistence on referring to Palin as a Mayor of a small town, even tho he knows full well she is the Governor shows me he is trying to deminish her in the eyes of the country. Obama, you have reached the heighth of stupidity! Shame on any woman that will trash another woman and publicly ridicule and that means you Donna Brazile, a pregnant girl. These women are the scum of the earth. Campbell Brown, I’m embarrassed and YOU should be……your face was on my tv for the last time.
MJ — the Democratic Party said it didn’t need its base and that we could stay home–they had enough votes without us. So Dems we have left and we are going McCain/Palin — GET OVER IT.
It’s not about those daily minimal number polls for the U.S. as a whole, all weighted by some proprietary weighting. It’s about the electoral votes and the states where it counts.
The big guns come out all over next week. Maybe we’ll finally get some Bobama vetting.
SFK — the media tries to help Obama with tracking polls and registered voters. Its about States and likely voters–I bet McCain.
There is a reason these little punk pissposts don’t really determine any elections. When they come out like cockroaches the common sense people step in and take over. As much as bots want to believe it….energy will never trump common sense and wisdom. So go ahead and be vulgar, sexist and ignorant…doesn’t matter in the end what’s good and right will win.
Proud PUMA and McCaiin/Palin supporter 2008
I’m a PUMA/Hillary Harridan and will vote McCain in November (a sad day but have to take a stand), but just wanted to point out that what’s good and right doesn’t always win. Unfortunately I have to point out who’s squatting in the white House. And that’s neither good and right. Still I hope it will be a landslide victory for McCain and a thorough house cleaning of my party – the Democrats.
I agree with most of you.
Obama is a dirty thug and he must be stopped.
Here’s a good question.
Know what presidents Bush 43, Clinton, Carter, and Reagan share with Sarah Palin?
They are all governors that ran for the highest office (s) in the U.S. and none of them had any experiencein foreign affairs worth noting.
With just a little bite of digging, one will find that true of most of the men that ran for president. Need I say more CNN, MSNBC, Sally Quinn, Maureen Dowd, olbermann, Matthews, Donna Brazille?
Howard Dean didn’t have foreign experience when he ran in 2004.
I hate sounding conspiratorial but it’s hard to argue she isn’t being singled out because she’s a woman.
Another thought popped into my head today and it’s whether or not the same silly comments about Palin and her daughter if it was the father nominated for VP? Would the be saying the same thing about him neglecting his special needs child? By also singling her out for this supposed neglect, is it not implied that it’s Sarah’s responsibility alone?
I thought this was the twenty-first century?
Hey Patrick, my calender says 2008 but apparently the DNC calender says 1900. I am beside myself with the hypocrisy of the “left”. It’s odd to me that many in the left blogosphere claim that she is a bad parent for running for office as if her husband is totally incompetent when it comes to raising HIS children. WOW I guess sexism cuts both ways.
anyone watching the RNC?
Fred Thompson just hit it out of the park.
Agreed. Now I’m watching Lieberman. Now did Obama the “Uniter” have a prominent Republican speak on his behalf? No, I don’t think so!
holy crap…
sweet baby jesus….
i’m in London, UK and i just finished watching Fred Thompson’s speech on John Mccain…
wow!
what a great speech… and he threw in some great jabs at the media and the smearing of Palin and her family…
i learned a lot about mccain…
wow…
very very impressed…
really amazed…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
its 3:42 am over here by the way…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Gerard Hi Mate — I am gob smacked by Palin.
Go Joe, Go Joe, Go Joe!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
Sean Hannity on Fox said 35% of Clinton supporters will not support Obama..
I’m happy to see that number increasing daily..Wait until Sarah speaks tomorrow nite..
Mccain/Palin
Pewl — Kind of like the movie Its a Wonderful Life. Everytime Obama attacks Palin another 10,000 women go over to McCain.
s.Hall
I’m sure the roof will be blown off the Gop convention after Palin’s speech…I can wait.
Lieberman’s Speech hit a home run on many fronts,He asked the independents,Clinton supporters,fence sitters, to really think of Country first.He has many followers,and its only a matter of time Big names will be publicized..I think most are waiting for Sarah’s speech .
Should be an interesting couple of weeks.
Thanks Uppity Woman,
I will vote republican this year for the sole purpose of defeating the misogynists who have high-jacked the democratic party.
These pieces of shit need to be rooted out like the cancer they are!!!!I am sick to my stomach to see that the dems are a bunch of women haters. I knew that there were sexists amongst them, but this fish is rotting from the head. None of them, not even the other women in the party stuck up for Hillary, which turned a lot of women off. Dean’s lame excuse was that he doesn’t watch TV. That’s just bull shit. He came out to accuse FOX News of race baiting in march over Rev. Wright, but never noticed the CNN commentators calling Hillary a white bitch. I guess Donna Brazile never filled him in even though she sat right there and agreed. And I guess Howie never heard Keith Obermann say that one of the boys should take Hillary into a back room!!!!They’re fucking pigs!!!!
If the republicans stand up for Palin, it will go a long way with women voters, including Hillary’s voters. The dems are stupid!!! Spewing all this misogyny only rips the scab of the wounds left from how they abused Hillary. Maybe this Palin pick will pull more women toward McCain, especially as we watch the democratic misogyny machine start back up again.
PUMA!!!!!!
Great comment and I totally agree.
The way the media is against McCian and Gov. Palin, you would think small obama would be ahead by 20pts, any women that has respect for her self and is a mother would never vote for obama, and Palin has our support, obama hates strong women and he is scare of them
I’m listening to Fred Thrompson right now. If this is the start of the Republican Convention and if the Obamatrons think or hope that smears against Palin are working.
Think again! Think long, think hard.
I’m a lifelong Democrat and you folks have lost me, maybe forever.
PUMA #12 of the 12
Standing behind millions; too often called a right-wing nut or irrelevant old hag.
McCain/Palin ‘08
Thompson did a great job and I share your sentiment….the Republicans are getting ready to clean house. Perhaps they wanted the Obama campaign to have a false sense of victory….oh the sweeter to take them down….
On the run, gotta go…
But, PLEASE,
Read this and take heed…
Your Future is on the Line.
Ban the oBomba!
I’ll be part of that 50%!! (not 30%)
Country first!!
McCain/Palin 08
Hillary 12
Soetoro,…NEVER!!
I started out last year with no dog in this race. I figured the Democrat that came out on top would be far and away better than any republican. Looking at the three top tier candidates my thing was if anybody could do it it was Obama. Hillary had the Clinton last name with its attendant hatred, Edwards had the 2004 loss. Funny thing is it wasn’t Obama that first lost me, it was his surrogates at the Cheetoh and Talking Pointy Head. When I started paying attention to the race and positions I gravitated toward Hillary. Well, the Kossholes are doing it again, I’m going from sitting this one out to voting for McCain.
Way to go Mike!!
I am a lifelong Democrat and after this nightmare, it’s McCain for me and my family!!
McCain/Palin 08
Hillary 12!!
What makes you think that Hillary will win the nomination in 2012? Don’t you think that many of the alleged Hillary supporters who’ve decided to vote GOP this year will stay with McCain/Palin in 4 years?
THAT’S ASSUMING THEY WIN THIS YEAR, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
*Troll Alert*
No. If Hillary runs in 2012, she has my vote and those of other Hillary supporters I know who were disenfranchised this year and had Obama shoved down our throats in that sham convention. And with any luck, in four years the DP will have had a major housecleaning, which it sorely needs!
My hat is off to Susan Estrich for her honesty; it’s not easy to tell the truth about one’s own party.
Other than wanting to throw up while Lieberman speaks in the background right now at the Republican convention, I entirely agree. I will be voting in the fall for McCain–no longer a chance that I’d opt to sit out the vote. It is incredibly offensive to read the trash the nutroots crowd is spewing about Palin and her family. They have stepped well beyond legitimate discussion.
Uppity Women you rock!!!
“I also think it’s important right now to say that we women who Get It can hardly express how much we appreciate all the many real progressive men who also See what’s really going on here. I am not referring to the radical Far Left hijackers, also known in the underground as Regressives in the Democratic Party”
Thanks. Remember there are some us who support Puma and feminism to the hilt. And yes we catch Hell from some idiots in our gender. And no, not just GOPers. The worst offenders are the smarmy asskisser faux liberals with their noses stick up their Ivy League degrees who can’t see their hypocrisy. I have deballed a few but their numbers, like the Devil’s, are legion.
Uppitty Woman you said it all! We’re gonna kick
Obama’s butt and man will that feel soooooooo…good!
Hillary, we’ll keep going and going to freedom from
this dumbocratic party! Jump on the underground railroad girlfriend!
That’s a hearty laugh…That railroad is brokedown train to nowhere.
Oh look it’s Roxanne. Hi Roxie, couldn’t stay away?
Roxanne??? Roxanne Barr….Is it really you?
How’s Jon Voight?
Andrea Mitchell got it right.
The more educated and affluent of the Hillary supporters will vote for Obama. The less educated and more working class Hillary supporter will vote for McCain. It seems that the latter has no qualms about being used and laughed at by the Republican party.
My goodness, Rush Limbaugh mocks you guys all day long.
Where is your dignity?
hey, i am an educated democrat voting for Mccain!
i think Adrea Mitchell is confusing educated with stupid…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
I have a Master’s degree and my income is in the top 5 %. Voting for McCain/Palin here.
Ha, ha, ha!! Keep telling yourself that. I have a Ph.D. & drink lattes daily….plus I make pretty good $$$$.
Guess what? NEVER Obama…..
McCain/Palin
Well, if you have lots of $$$$, Fl Girl, you should try spending some on books learning how to expand your vocabulary.
Although, your use of the terms ’suck my ovaries’ and ‘bite me’, topped off with four letter expletives are quite compelling.
RoxASS, you should be fired for being such a poor troll. i hope THE ONE dings you for being even more stoopid than him.
Women who vote for obama have no self respect and actually are self haters. they condone the sexism and attack on children.
i don’t want the likes of women haters like you, ROXASS, to choose the next president.
your boy is going down and so is your self esteem. where is your self respect? in the gutter with the boys?
Don’t look!!!!
Sexism under the bed.
Misogyny in the closet.
What’s a girl to do?
Get a life.
same thing you have always done. Move on to the next man hoping he won’t hit you.
It’s funny to me when Roxanne states that the most “educated” people are voting for BO.
Have you ever actually been to the Obama site, (or ANY pro-Obama site for that matter) and witnessed their posts?
Believe me – “educated” is not a word I would use to describe that crowd…not by a long shot.
I think the post-graduate educated community is less kool-aid oriented than you suspect. It’s the bachelor’s degree crowd that’s wowwed by Obama. Post-grads are used to bright people and are better trained to cut through the bs.
Uh no…the ph.d crowd supports Obama overwhelmingly!
I don’t know of many professors and/or post grads who identify with gun-crazed, anti-abortion Jesus freaks who don’t even acknowledge the concept of global warming. That is in essence the McCain/ Palin ticket.
Ridiculous.
Link Please. When I mention he never wrote anything as president for the Harvard Law Review or argued a case before a court, the PHDs I know get the hint. And they don’t like it. PHD programs are cutthroat and vicious. They see through this crap.
Do a google search – ‘Obama support amongst those with advanced degrees’.
It’s quite common knowledge, actually.
no, you do the research and provide the link. Frankly, this Ph.D. is not interested and can see very clearly that Soetoro is anti-american, hateful, and a racist who will stop at nothing to win.
he won’t get it, he will not win.
don’t freak out on her. It makes her feel special to think she is voting with the “smart” people. I always see Obama supporters claim that other “COLLEGE” grads are voting for Obama. Its never themselves. LOL in your face roxanne.
You mean like Obama’s friend, the “respected professor” William Ayers?
*spit
Education is not equal to wisdom, moron.
I was gonna say:
A PH Dee don’t mean yous smart, girly! Sum a the smartest people i knows do not go ta college.
We lost our dignity when the DNC stole the election!
HA — I have a MA — and I am not poor. I’m middle class, highly educated. I am a feminist — have been since the 70s. The sexism NOW is far worse than anything I saw in the 70s — and I wrote my MA thesis on sexism of that era. So I guess I am sort of an expert on the sexism of the 70s.
I will NEVER EVER vote for Obama nor any other male chauvinist pig.
Soetoro-Obama made it very clear that he hated women, white women in particular, months ago. Every time Barky insulted Hillary — he was insulting every women.
Then Barky gave Hillary the finger — he was giving ALL women the finger.
Women have been insulted, called every vile and disgusting name by Obamaots — and it is these Neanderthals that I will also be voting against when I vote for Palin and that other guy on the ticket.
She is an honest woman, a straight talker — a rural, gun shooting hockey mom. What a shocker — an honest politician who takes on her own party when she sees corruption.
BARKY never did that — NOPE he’s living in that mansion that Rezko helped him buy. Barky is up to his purple lips in the pay to play game of dirty Chicago politics.
Barky is a zero.
And I know I’m not the only hyper educated, well of female who will NOT be voting for Barky.
Our “dignity” is rising every time we send in money to McCain/Palin and volunteering on his behalf…and on Nov. 4th, we will be sure to give a “dignified” toast to the McCain/Palin victory. For, apparently what you and Andrea Mitchell in your educated ignorance don’t realize is that TRUE feminists have respect for ALL women from ALL walks of life and when you wound a woman for the sake of wounding, we WILL unite. In addition, education has very little to do with actual intelligence. Abraham Lincoln had less than 1 year of formal education – …he homeschooled himself; many of the great intellects t/o history were self taught.
Gee there….
I have a master’s in international relations and live inside the Capital Beltway. My father has a Ph.D. in Biology and was chair of his department. I grew up in the suburbs and had by most standards a privileged life. Mom stayed at home.
I drink Lattes and eat Sushi.
I subscribe to Dwell, Martha Stewart Living, Domino
I shop at DWR, Room and Board [like mid-century furniture]
I am a 38 year old lesbian who shops at J.Crew and Barneys
I saw who/what Obama was from the moment this primary season began and as a life-long [20 years] who has given thousands to the party, the Democratic Party in its’ current form is dead to me!
I AM A DEMOCRAT but enjoyed watching the Republican campaign 100% more then ours. Ours was all lies and bullshit. The thug got the nomination. YUCK. I am voting for John McCain. God Bless him. PUMA
Obama knows he is losing. He is getting crazy. He knows he is taking the Dem Party down with him. And now he can’t blame Hillary. His attacks against Palin mean he can only blame himself.
Blaming. They blamed Hillary, and didn’t take any responsibility for the way the primary was played. If they had, they could have tried to make amends. Now they blame Sarah Palin, instead of taking responsibility for having fanned the misogyny. Now they’re blaming PUMA instead of seeing that having a coup wasn’t a good idea. Now they’re blaming working class people, small town America, bitter, ignorant low-information voters, instead of acknowledging that people have eyes and ears even if they belong to the class the elite think they own. Blame. Blame. Blame.
Here’s where I think the blame belongs. Blame Donna Brazile, someone who has made a career of being an inside operative against democracy and told us the party didn’t need us and our quaint ideas. Tell Dean and Emmanuel and Todo that rigging a selection is not an election. Tell the “folks” who thought they could fool us with Obama that we are getting wise to the ways of media persuasion. Tell Pelosi that she broke the hearts of her people who wanted to see accountability in government. Blame the DNC for completely forgetting the people who once looked to them with hope that while they sacrificed their integrity for money and power, we are still trying to get by honestly in this world. Blame Obama for being a divisive fraud. We were looking for hope and change. He ain’t it.
Ms. Andrea Mitchell, the media elitist and Mr. Andrea Mitchell, the financial elitist should always remember that the working class makes your lifestyle possible.
Brava! The Dems are the most cynical and corrupt Party to emerge since GWB’s GOP—and that was hard to beat. Instead of delivering us from the fascist stranglehold on this country, the Pod Dems decided to surpass that model with their own fascist model. WTF!
Country over Party–always!
I have a law degree, am upper middle class, living in the tony urban suburbs, life long Democrat and drink lattes. I saw through Obama the first time I saw him …. and his cadre of fainting ladies. Then I learned to hate him. Count me in – PUMA.
Oh, did I mention I like lattes, too.
Gee. I have a master’s degree and three houses. Obama and the dems can kiss my votes and money goodbye. I will never support a party this sexist. What hypocrites.
McCain/Palin 08!
Clinton 12!
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/today-joe-biden-said-again-that-he-is-the-one-running-for-president-and-yet-no-one-in-the-media-calls-biden-senile-or-confused-when-hes-obviously-at-least-confused/
September 1, 2008
Today Joe Biden said, again, that HE is the one running for president. And yet, no one in the media calls Biden senile or confused, when he’s obviously, at least, CONFUSED
well Done Uppity Woman.
When it rains it poors. but no amount of salt will heal these wounds any time soon.
I never imagined that I’d be watching the Republican convention and be thrilled at what I’m hearing. Fred Thompson did a great job-and I don’t care for him very much.
I can’t bring myself to watch Lieberman, though.
This is a very strange election season.
PUMA: The name says it all. LOL
Definitely a unique group of individuals. I mean it takes a special kind of person to belong to such an enchanting organization called ‘party unity my ass’.
Enchanting.
:snark:
Country first.
UW,
Good to see you here!
BTW UW is a charter member of Old Hippies for McCain. Welcome home.
You go girrrrl.
The Republican position on abortion is to return the decision to the States.
I agree. The sexism is full force. The Obama democrats obviously think she should be home. Palin is going to give a kick ass speech tomorrow. May these Obamanots be put to shame.
Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women
I didn`t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.
I’m not crazy for Lieberman either but he was actually good. Looking straight into the camera, he invited people who have never voted for a Republican before to join the McCain campaign…I’m thinkin’ that means me.
Susan is correct. I am one of them, and I am happily going to vote for McCain now that Palin is on the ticket. I would have done it anyway after the treatment of Hillary Clinton by the DNC and Obama, but having Palin on the ticket makes it a heck of a lot easier.
Right on!
Now I’ve seen everything. Black folk voted for Obama because he’s black. Young folk because he’s young and black. Women voted for Hillary because she’s a woman. All you people are a menace to this country.
It’s about policy, and Obama swiped the Clinton policy agenda from day one: middle class tax cuts, fiscal responsibility, healthcare, startegic investment, bipartisanship, effective diplimacy, green energy, etc…
Are you people so emotionally immature that you’ll waste the huge political opportunity we have now just to settle a vendetta? I despise Nader’s Traitors for destroying the party in 2000. And now you will do the same. Incredible.
Oh shove it you dumb soetoro-bot.
We are voting for McCain&Palin because we believe in country first.
Obama is an inadequate, lazy, Narcissistic, male who doesn’t have the qualifications to be a US Senator — let alone CiC of the US military.
Frankly I don’t give a damn if the Democrat party lives or dies — and right now that party looks DOA.
Anyone who votes for Obama is a sexist pig.
Gee Northwest Rain, I’m liking your posts more and more. I’m in the Northwest too, in Oregon.
So then you are okay with us voting for McCain right since there policies aren’t similiar?
Glad we see eye to eye there buddy.
Will –
If you knew your history accurately, you would know that they have determined that Nadar’s voters did not affect the loss.
Look it up before you accuse others of being ignorant.
Then you get to despise me twice. I thought Nader was right, and if Gore had listened to him, I don’t think it would have been close. But then again, Gore had the CNN talking head Donna Brilliant to listen to.
I did not support HRC because she was a woman, but because she was by far the best hope we had. I will not support Palin because she is a woman, but because she is a Washington outsider, a fresh face and change we can believe in while Obama is merely the Chicago branch of Washington corruption. A pay to play pol with a new twist. I know it is a long shot that McCain/Palin will bring real reform, but I’ve been playing diminishing percentages in politics for years now.
Blame me if you must, Bill, but until the DNC lives up to the fact that it has not delivered to its constituency, they should expect the exodus to continue.
Listening to Leiberman, which I generally never do, was, well, okay. Ack! Am I becoming a Republican? No, wait… he’s a Democrat. Sen Leiberman seemed to be the man tonight that we nominated to be VP 8 years ago. Things are on the edge folks, and he sees it. He attempted to speak past the hand tonight. To us. Fred’s story about McCain brought tears. Last week at this time I would have written Hillary’s name in even though it didn’t count or voted for Cynthia McKinney. Tonight, since Friday, I wonder how many of us have changed to McCain/Palin? That would be an interesting statistic to know. How many Hillary Dems is less than one week have switched to McCain? Masters degree.
Obama is running scared. Politico.com said Obama just released an ad claiming “McCain will make Abortion Illegal” Talk about scare tactics and 3:AM calls. Obama knows he has lost many of the Clinton supporters and is deperate to get them back so he goes to the most divisive issue. His true colors are shining through. God I miss Hillary. McCain 08/Hillary 12
I know am ready to vote for Palin am so sick tired of what they are doing to this family I want the election called in the morning.
The CNN reporter while she was bashing Palin to day was busy making a point that the world is watching, well yep they are and they are dam well seeing that some in America have not respect for women and feel all they should be doing is making babies and staying home.
It is disgusting England had a woman leader, India and so many other countries have had woman leaders and here we are the great USA acting like a bunch of third world uneducated buffons, trying our best to keep every woman that seeks high office out of it. It was done to Hillary now it is happening once again.
Well am fed up am going to vote for Palin no matter what.
PUMA for Nike !
McCain Campaign: News Media Demanding DNA Testing of Palin Family
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Why are the MEdia not demanding Obama Orginal BC?
DNA??? man we sure are a sick country some people really desperately want Obama in the WH I can see that now
If this is true, then I demand colonoscopies for the media to determine if they are as big as a$$holes as they appear to be. We need media reform, and I hope that PUMA will stay organized after the election to hit the misogyny channels in their wallets. They’ve hit us in our wallets with their electioneering, and why aren’t their gifts to politicians aren’t considered donations by the FEC? CNN and MSNBC are way over the legal limit for political gifts. We have a limit. They don’t.
Susan Estrich predictions are right on and rising daily.
Obama can brag all he wants about getting youth registered but come election day if they aren’t stoned out of their minds and liquored up maybe 50% will make it to the polls.
I do think there is a lot of concern about the coercion among the vulnerable folks transported to the polls or help filling out the absentee ballots, the dead people ballots etc. etc. The polls need security also and ID checking.
I hope Hillary doesn’t accept any cabinet position as a ploy to pick up some of her voters. Hillary don’t do it, because it won’t help him, NOTHING is going to help him. We can’t forget how he dumped on you and we will NEVER forgive him for that.
Lay off the family of the Governor. Has nothing to do with issues. She is more experienced than Obama ever will be and she is younger.
McCain’s character is unmatched. Obama, give it up, step down or aside for now and let the real candidate that can win for the Democratic party save its butt, Hillary Clinton. If you stay the course you are down for the count I predict.
I have said all along there would be at least 32% of HRC people that would swing over to McCain. Now with Gov Palin it could be up to 35%. That is a huge number but people are seeing there is no there, there to obama.
I was happy to see McCain pull his interview for Larry King. The lady was way over the top in her questions asked concerning Gov. Palin. If she and others were to have asked obama some hard ass questions back in late 07 and early 08 this election would not be a toss-up at this point in time.
Great post Uppity. I’m glad Estrich, after drinking some of the kool-aid this election season, spoke the truth. Estrich should know better that the attacks against Palin are disgusting, vile, and uncalled for. Estrich herself was raped as a young woman. Violence against women whether verbal or physical comes from the same mentality that certain women are whores who deserve to be f*cked, abused, kicked to the curb. What we are seeing now is the Left blogosphere angry that this nobody beauty queen from a small town in Alaska might help McCain win from their Messiah. I have no words for the men and women who continue to attack the Palins, not on policy, but on stupid sh*t like their reproductive history. I am so glad this election has opened my eyes to the sexism from all sides of our politics and society.
Fred Thompson is the man I’d want at my back. Joe Lieberman touched me by risking his political career to put his country first and stand by the man with the character, tenacity, wisdom and EXPERIENCE to lead this country back to greatness.
This was the FINEST convention night I have ever witnessed!!
AMEN – GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!
I will quote Ollie North one more time….he says that young voters (not all in my opinion) are reliably unreliable when it comes to voting.
I believe when the young Obamarites go to the polls, if they go will only vote for Obama the downtickets will suffer!
I can’t stand Ollie North. and hate to think I’ll actually be voting Republican. Oh well, up is down this year for sure.
So if 30% Hill voters support MCCain, then
why don’t the polls reflect that yet?
They do, if you look at most polls that have obama up by 10% there are alot of “unsure” voters in there. Like what happened in Ohio, those voters went to Hillary (in other words they told the surveyer they weren’t interested in taking the survey).
YOu will see come November. I just hope your ready for the loss.
It’s ironic that the savage Daily Kos crowd is fixated on 17-year-old Bristol getting pregnant by her 18-year-old boyfriend when the Obamessiah is the end product of his 17-year-old mom getting knocked up by bigamist Barack Sr., a Muslim goatherd who already had a wife (Kezia) and two kids in Kenya.
Barack Sr. had 8 kids by 4 women.
Baarck refuses to release his authentic birth certificate or reveal what hospital he was born in? Why? Was he born in another country? Is his real name Damian Thorne?
He also refuses to release his SAT scores and his undergrad transcripts from Occidental and Columbia.
As a lawyer, I can tell you it is unlikely Roe v. Wade will be overturned but if it were it would simply return things to the 1960’s where each state made its own decision on availability. A woman in Utah or Idaho wanting an abortion would merely have to travel to California or Oregon.
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ex Hillary supporter as well.
I and my family can never vote for Obama, his dirty politics along with total media bias. is disgusting. Polosi, “Howard the Duck” Dean, “The 2 losers Kennedy and Kerry, CNN and of course NBC/MSN.
Obama and his Kool-Aid drinkers are going to face a harsh reality come Nov. we Hillary supporters will determine this cycle.
McCain/Palin 08
HILLARY 2012
WHEN WILL OBAMA BE VETTED???
WHAT IS HIS REAL NAME – BARACK OBAMA OR BARRY SOETORO?
WHERE WAS HE BORN – KENYA, HAWAII, CANADA?
WHY DOES HE DENY BEING REGISTERED IN SCHOOL AS A MUSLIM INDONESIAN?
DOES HE HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP – INDONESIAN/AMERICAN OR KENYAN/AMERICAN?
WHY IS HIS POSTED BIRTH CERTIFICATE A FORGERY?
WHY ARE HIS CLOSE FRIENDS TERRORIST BOMBERS OF AMERICAN SITES, CHICAGO CRIMINALS, IRAQI CRIMINALS, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN TYPES?
WHY HASN’T HE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR SENDING HIS THUGS INTO CAUCUSES TO STEAL DELEGATES USING THEFT, THREATS, FORCE, AND EVERY KIND OF FRAUD?
Have you seen this?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
wow.
Thanks for the link
This article is excellent, y’all have to read this!
Thanks for sharing it Butter
Butter –
Thanks for posting the article, “How Obama Lost the Election” .
thanks for the link, Butler. While the article was very interesting I disagreed with the writer’s opinion that Barry was so smart, etc., I think he is just a dirty, corrupt, misogynistic, sexist, and plain nasty Chicago pol, who wouldn’t win this election even if he had offered the VP slot to Hillary. I, personally, wouldn’t vote for him if Jesus himself came and begged me. I think finally (think of Reverend Wright when you read this) the chickens are coming home to roost for him. And I am so looking forward to it and never having to see Barry or his angry wife again.
Wasn”t Palin born in Idaho? Would that be another state thats heavier for Mccain and Palin?
Not sure about the political map.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrL9MV6jSk
Milli Vanilli “Blame it on the Rain”
You said you didn’t need her
You told her good-bye (good-bye)
You sacrificed a good love
To satisfy your pride
Now you wished
That you should have her (have her)
And you feel like such a fool
You let her walk away
Now it just don’t feel the same
Gotta blame it on something
Gotta blame it on something
Blame it on the rain (rain)
Blame it on the stars (stars)
Whatever you do don’t put the blame on you
Blame it on the rain yeah yeah
You can blame it on the rain
Most of the Obama supporters are not giving the young people any credit.
The young people do think and they have judgement more than they are being given credit for.
Individual should be worrying about what is good for the country USA. Ask who ever is talking about change, what have there so far changed? What have they done? What are they changing? why?
Do not forget. Every body changes, we have begining and ending, we start and we stop, we are born today one tomorrow we will die, those are changes. Without the change, those under 18 years now will never turn 18 years come Nov. 4, 2008.
This is one of the over used word: CHANGE, those that has been changing and changing things have not been talking about change. Sen. Clinton has been making changes, we shoved her aside.
Let use be careful, change is good, but be careful of what you are wishing to change.
For me Sen. John S. MacCain is the one for president.
“Mike Dukakis Campaign Manager”
As wise now as she was then.
Just an FYI for you knuckle dragger…. 0donna Brazile was asked to resign from the Gephard campaign for rumors about Bush I … and we all remember what a fabulous job she did for Al Gore,right? So. 0donna is not the “take it to the bank” kind of girl I would want pulling for me if I were 0bama …. hahahaahahahaha
I am so happy you took time off from your study of rocket science and linguistics (i.e., “hahahaahahahaha”) to prove once again that the old Roman practice of infant exposure is so much in need today.
Donna Brazile was Gore’s campaign manager.
The subject, may I intercede to say, was remarking upon the ineptitude of Susan Estrich, Dukakis’s campaign manager. (This by implication, bright spark, impugns anything she does or says, a common, if not droll, technique in rhetoric.)
To wit: Susan Estrich, as Dukakis’s campaign manager, was responsible for taking that splendid 1986 photo op of Margaret Thatcher riding around in the Challenger with her scarf gallantly flying in the breeze and turning it into an absolute, meltdown, ludicrous clusterfuck: Our candidate ended up grinning like a drooling idiot and looking like a goddamn mushroom in the helmet.
Then Lee Attwater, rooming with George W. Bush at the time BTW, properly rogered her with Willie Horton to boot.
I blame MTV for your sort.
I am educated as well and I will be voting McCain, maybe the poster has it backwards…
Uppity –
Great post…as usual. You’re our “Straight Talk McUppity” – LOL
And she also isn’t including the moderate Republicans who were going to vote for Hillary Clinton. I know quite a few who intended to to had she won. They are also hoppin’ mad about how she was treated.
Well its great that someone is now listening to us., too bad the Os think that a woman is uncapable of doing anything other than raising a family at home, in todays real world many families have parents working and children sharing responsiblities, as of educated voters, hahaha yes I believe that allot of voters are being grouped as uneducated , as if we did not know who or why we would ever vote for McCain. I will never vote Obama it was that first impresssion , character is an issue for O , and the shady friends he lays in bed with.
Obama , hides from anything that will down his presidency, as for being vetted, with all the crap hitting on O , he was not invetted by the democratic party, Keep up the work, continue to alarm and post to all the nastyness that O supporters do:
continue voicing one voice, one vote, Nobama, I will not be a silence voice on electing O, a stay home vote, a handwritten vote for Hillary, , a fall in line vote for party unity, Puma, a race baited vote ,or a third party vote, I own my vote, and will vote for an candidate of experience and character. Obama has proven to be everything he stated he was not just another politician that will do anything from flip flopping to his record and his decesion to use sexism and race to win his way to the white house, and his muzzled whisper on how family is out but its ok to beat theirs up, Obama is not racing against Palin, He is up against McCain, Country first before party, just as the Democratic party threw Hillarys voters to the curb , remember they do not need us, they are the new democratic party full of deceit and the chicago political machine of thieves. Bann together and lets show them how woman and men will unite to defeat the less experienced , no record of fighting for the people, and the Godly one. Let us roar , with pride and show the disgust of the O campaign humiliating ,woman, elderly , and anyone who questions his record on policy, vote Nobama McCain Palin 2008. lets not sit down and stand by and let them do to Palin, as they did to Hillary, to demonize and characterize her as doing nothing and having no record.,, vote , vote, vote. those who have face book add Will bowers Puma anyone of those supporters who will bann together to vote McCain. Puma proud and Just say NOdeal stand up and be recognized, it is ok to vote republican, I do not agree with all but I have always respected McCain , … but I will not tolerate my party demoralizing woman, with sexism comments and racism to bait votes, its not the color of his skin, its his issues….
Gallup Poll:
The Democratic convention appears to have helped solidify support for Barack Obama among former Hillary Clinton supporters, with the percent saying they will vote for Obama in November moving from 70% pre-convention to 81% after the convention, and the percent certain to vote for Obama jumping from 47% to 65%
After the sleazy actions from the misogynist MSM, Bloggers, that will and has changed daily.18 million voters chose Hillary over Obama up to the very end and many of us refuse to vote for Obama or the corrupted democratic party and that number will grow.
Women KNOW a pig when we see and smell one. Obama is a pig!
That is good news. So, instead of 30% of Hillary Democrats saying they won’t vote for the DNC’s selection, only 19% say they won’t. So, that’s only about 3.5 million Democrats who won’t vote for him. Sounds like a cliff hanger. Sure hope the media doesn’t start talking about Obama’s career or he is toast.
Isn’t it time for the bi-partisan unity that was promoted by Obama? I am becoming more bi-partisan by the day as I take another look at the Republicans. It was Obama that voted for Dick Cheney’s Energy Bill, not John McCain. As for Palin, she’s extremely interesting and I’m hearing that she has energized the Republican Party. Did Biden do that for Obama? No. He’s the ultimate Washington insider. They talk about him taking the train home to Delaware each night. He must have caught it after his many Hardball appearances because he was on that show almost daily. I really do see McCain/Palin taking on the status quo. Obama is just using it. But the backlash is really against the TeeVee talking heads. I think both Partys agree they have become parodies of some sort of Saturday Night Live skit. It was brave and telling that McCain pulled out of an interview with CNN yesterday after they used Kos rumor/talking points instead of actually reporting.
Love Uppity! Love Estrich!
I spent last night explaining to my husband and son why I HAD to vote for Sarah…and I am very pro-choice.
With the way the D’s are attacking her, and the F—-MSM press there will not be another female on a ticket for a very long time( for the Oval Office).
If BO gets in it will just be the way it goes for women, DOWN.
I think McCain needs to be McCain and tear the MSM a new A– when it’s his turn @ bat. Give ‘em hell.
Can we just boycott certain actors and shows due to their ignorance.
I don’t have a problem with people picking their party but I do have a problem with nastiness and ignorance.
If you’re right just speak the facts enough with the spin.
Ultimately, the single issue of this campaign will be the continuing general breakdown of the U.S. and European economies. The powerful national and international financial forces that want to see a president elected that will address the economic crises to their benefit are in complete control of the media. Because they own them! Many on these blogs don’t seem to get that.
These financial forces also have assets in BOTH parties. Dick Cheney is an example of that. Having said that, another option for them to have control of the executive branch by November that Vice-President Cheney will start World War III very soon, in which case neither Obama or McCain would ever be President. The situation right now, is that the election could be called off, while the nation operates under an unelected “emergency government,” for the duration of the presently onrushing global, economic breakdown-crisis.
The actual situation is, contrary to anything different that only foolish people might believe, both putative Presidential candidates are now doing nothing as much as losing the general election. Neither of the two candidates has a clue, or is likely to ever discover a clue, about the true state of the economy.
There is still hope that the chain will be pulled on Obama, as has been expected, by some time during September-October. That hope is based on Hillary having invoked the name of FDR in reference to the current situation. That translates into the approach of declaring a national bankruptcy and reorganizing the economy. The national and international financial entities (eg. Soros) do not, under any circumstances, want that because their ill gotten wealth will be wiped out in a single stroke. In short they have everything to loose and can be expected to react like cornered animals if faced with that prospect. Of course, nothing is certain, except chaos, unless we become lucky and get an option we would prefer.
The problem is not limited to the intellectual incompetence of the two Presidential candidates. In effect, letting the British (e.g., Rohatyn, Soros) steer muddleheaded Nancy Pelosi into virtually shutting down the U.S. Congress for most of the past two years, and eliminating the only leading pre-Presidential candidate who has shown the ability to think like an actual President, the U.S.A. does not have the prospect of an actually functioning, properly elected President assuming office come January.
This may or may not be the situation come November election-day. It is a possibility. In a situation like the present global financial and strategic crisis, the candidates nominated by the time the Republican conventions ends, may not be candidates when election-day arrives. Past Labor Day, the fact of the incompetence of the present top leaders in the Congress, the candidates, and the major press, will have begun to kick in.
One thing is for sure, many things are about to change, and that more or less profoundly, very, very soon.
I think you are right. Change, profound and soon. And it would take a miracle at this point to get a government up to the task of working through it on our behalf.
The brush the shoulder off was the final factor or my Dad. He decided that day he could never vote for Obama. So extremely dismissive.
If anyone is wavering, on the fence about who to vote for, this should push you over to McCain/Palin08. Watch this video:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/02/look-into-the-eyes-and-soul-of-an-obamacan/#comment-136041
updated link:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/09/02/look-into-the-eyes-and-soul-of-an-obamacan
Uggh. That video is as vile as the short discussion I had with one of my local “progressive” so called guardian of women’s rights. He says, “you’re not stupid enough to fall for that dumb cu&t from Alaska, are you?”
Uh, yes dude, “I’m a dumb bi*ch voting for the stupid cu&t from Alaska. Now please get your effin ignorant wanker off my front porch.”
Public relations lessons #1. Don’t lecture me about women’s rights while using words like bi*ch and cu&t and stupid.
Are you planning to doorbell for Obama this year? Good luck with that.
oh. my. god.
what a sad fuck… that dude is a complete moron…
i hope all the world can watch this idiot and see what Obama and the new Democratic party is all about…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
here is another video of some Obama supporters…
actually, an organization that is mentioned in the Obama website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVuGK_GL4hc
the worst stuff comes in at after a minute… rabid anti semitism… on Obama’s website no less…
crazy…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
The public response to the Dems vile attacks on Gov. Palin does not include the “Bradley” affect when folks enter the voting booth.
I expect at least 20% of all voting Dems to vote for McCain/Palin.
Our country cannot continue to prosper, much less exist if it is going to be so heavily influenced by extreme left hatemongers.
Ironic that you refer to “hatemongers” and “bradley effect” in the same post, but refering to opposite groups of people.
The “bradley effect” is nothing more than a PC way of saying racism by voters in the booth. Racism is hate.
Uppity, you rock!
This is going to be like Custer’s last stand! Where the hell did all those REPUBLICANS come from?
For the first time in my life, I watched the Republican Conventon last night…loved it!
My biggest regret is that I have not, in the past, acknowledge the many wonderful people from that party!
I plan to make amends, for the women in that party deserve everything that have earned as well!!!
I did not watch ONE MINUTE of the Demo convention. I am so disgusted. But. I caught the entire evening on CSPAN last night and intend to be there until they close it down.
If you don’t want to watch the spin, just turn on CSPAN. Reward no one with your viewership.
Ah yes. The McGovern comparison is deliciously apt, although I predict Obama will actually win about 5 states (I’ve been saying that all year and I’m stubborn). Four more than McGovern.
Another parallel is with the Kerry campaign. All throughout that one we heard about the “cell phone users” who didn’t show up in polls and the massive numbers of new voters, young voters, who would storm the booths and deliver Kerry a landslide victory. Oops, not so much.
Sorry, guys. Latest polls show Obama closing in on 90% Dem support following the convention. If he gets to 90%, the registration advantage alone will make in nearly impossible for McCain to win.
Either Hillary voters are only 10-15% of the electorate (which we know is not true) or far less than 30% have gone PUMA (which is far more likely)
Oh Ok. Sure. Whatever you say there, Bunky. Just wait. The 527s don’t want to steal any thunder from Palin….if there is one thing the republicans do VERY well, it’s time their attacks. Barky and Axelrod wind up shooting their wads too early and too often. Actually, no please keep thinking your guy is ahead, the republicans are counting on your hubris.
Hey don’t count your chickens before they come home to roost.
I dont think so, susie girl. The NYT and the LA Times have published articles showing that 81% of former Hilary supporters have come back home to support Obama. He’s gone up 10 points in the polls and McDouche has gone down 7 points. How embarrassing is it when you have your convention and you drop 7 points? McDouche makes it so difficult to love this country. AND, Obama is now 21 points ahead with women and 35 points ahead with Hispanics. It’s all over except for McCain’s whining!!
Thank you Leona for citing to NYT and LA Times. Exactly who have they bothe been stumping for this primary season?
Yeah, that would be Obama. They have skin in this game and they have been creating a narrative that Obama is stronger than he is. [Bob Herbert, Maureen Dowd,Frank Rich]
Let’s see what the NYT track record has been since 2001. Judith Miller anyone?
I wouldn’t line a birdcage with the crap either of those papers has been going to press with.
correction:
both not bothe
My god, where are you getting your facts? Yeeeshh!! McCain and Obama are practically TIED and Obama got NO bounce. Look at Rasmussen and Zogby for the real polls. Not NYT which has been in the tank for Obama since the beginning.
81% of HRC supporters coming home? That’s the biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard and I’ve seen no such number anywhere.
Did you just make all this up?
30% plus 3 in my immediate family. Myself, my dad, and my brother all voted for Hillary and will be voting for McCain. My mom is too much of a Democrat and even though she agrees with how the DNC treated us women, she won’t ever vote Republican, ever.
I want to say, I’m so glad to see people who see this for what it is and see Obama for what he is. I’m also glad to see such passionate Clinton supporters here other than myself. I’ve felt so alone this year. I’ve been on this journey for 16 years (since I was 13, I just turned 29) and I couldn’t imagine getting off this journey. I worked for Hillary here in PA for two months and it was one of the most incredible experience of my entire life.
I’m proud to vote for McCain/Palin. I have voted Republican before but never for President. This is my 3rd election and in the past two I held my nose and pulled the lever for Gore, then Kerry. I won’t do it this time because I found a much better candidate in John McCain. I went to one of his rallies in 2000 in VA when I was going to college in DC. I met him and Cindy and was incredibly impressed. I said back then that he would be the only Republican I could see myself voting for if I didn’t like the Democrat. How true those words would become 8 years later, even though I hoped they didn’t.
I am also Jewish and love Israel. My hero was Yitzhak Rabin. Ever since his assassination, Nov. 4th is always an incredibly hard day. Well I know he’ll be proud of me for standing up for my country when I walk into the voting booth on the 13th anniversary of his murder and vote for someone I believe will fight for peace and defend America and Israel at all costs.
Plus, my real hero, Bill Clinton gave me his blessing with his “candidate X and Y” comparison.
McCain/Palin ‘08
I think that 30% figure is low. Every hispanic I talk to is voting for McCain. These are formerly Hillary voters and vote democrat almost always. The hispanic women are excited to vote for McCain/Palin.
If the media doesn’t think there is anything wrong with black people voting for obummer at 95%. they should have no problem with women voting for a ticket with Palin on it.
The democratic party and obummer gave a big FU to women. McCain has welcomed women and people of other parties into his campaign. His keynote speech was given by Al Gore’s running mate.
Hell, even Bill Clinton suggests voting for candidate Y whom we trust but don’t agree with 50% of the time, rather than voting for candidate X who we agree with but don’t have an confidence in.
The babbling ‘bot is correct that BO has a slight lead over McCain right now, RCP average has it as 6%. Naturally, the ‘bot is too stoned or deranged to do the math correctly.
This is BEFORE the end of the Republican Convention, though, so McCain’s post-convention bounce should even things up again.
What is more interesting is the state by state polling in swing states, which has must-win states Ohio and Florida showing McCain in the lead. McCain is also in the lead in Missouri and Nevada. Obama is leading in Pennsylvania, Michigan (two other must-wins) and New Mexico. New Hampshire and Virginia are tied (but VA will definitely go to McCain).
Also they are both showing the same favorable/unfavorable numbers, each hovering just above 50% favorable and 35% unfavorable, roughly.
p.s. Hillary would have easily won Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Florida along with the ones Obama is ahead in. It would have been a blow-out.
Hillary Clinton: 18,000,000 votes
Sarah Palin: 1 vote (John McCain)
Hillary is amazing. Palin is a disgrace.
This is a Rovian Masterpiece. GOP have exploited the sexism and stupidity shown to Clinton and have come up with a candidate that should not be underestimated.