By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry JohnsonName: Larry Johnson Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net Site:http://NoQuarterUSA.net About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.See Authors Posts (1182) on September 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM in Current Affairs
Keith Olbermann, who paused temporarily from washing the gnarly, stinky feet of Barack Obama with his tears, described Sarah Palin’s speech as a Tracy Flick moment. Are you kidding me? Tracy Flick, for those who are not movie buffs, is a character Reese Witherspoon played in the movie, Election. Flick is a conniving, back stabbing bitch. Here’s a clip:
Gee. What a shock? These clowns first compared Hillary to Tracy. Well color me surprised. But these lefty neanderthal, misogynist bastards are wrong. Sara Palin ain’t Tracy Flick. Nope, she’s Marge Gunderson. Who? You haven’t seen Fargo? A great movie by the Coen brothers. Anyway, Marge Gunderson is the pregnant sheriff who tracks down and nabs murdering kidnappers. Oh, and she loves her husband.
Marge Gunderson is a tough, no nonsense, smart lady. Now we have the real thing–meet Sarah Palin.
From what I understand Sarah Palin is a former-mayor of a town of about 9000 people. I choose to ignore that she’s governor of a state and focus on this, and pretend not to be dismissive. Then I will act offended when the same happens to me. PS how can she handle motherhood and a job?
I never thought Tracy Flick was a conniving, backstabbing bitch. I thought the corrupt teacher who was bitter because his friend got fired for sleeping with his student took out his own marital frustrations and guilty sexual fantasies out on this, yes, robotic, ambitious and politically ruthless girl, propped up a candidate who just wanted to kill time since he couldn’t play football, and STOLE BALLOTS cast for her, leading to his firing and the breakup of his marriage. Tracy Flick is totally Hillary Clinton, and I say that as someone who likes the movie Election.
Tracy Flick is an anti-hero who pokes fun at male castration panic. It was a timely movie and set the table for the most likely first woman to run for President on a major party ticket and what she would have to face. Why is it wrong to point out Hillary’s flaws or the ineffective packaging of her failed campaign? Hillary allowed herself to be defined by her opponent, and it was easy. She stood by her husband. I don’t condemn her for that, but it made it hard for her to appeal to a lot of women as someone who stands up to the male-dominated power structure. Hillary made it clear she would never bake cookies. She said she wanted her own political career playing a major role in her husband’s administration. Many women admired her for that. But those scandals of his, fairly or not, stuck to her. She ran for office in a pantsuit, as a fighter, drinking and cussing with the boys, because that’s who she is. She has been in Washington for a long time and relates more to the big cities.
EVERY POLITICIAN WHO RUNS FOR OFFICE CARICATURES THEMSELVES.
Hillary Clinton was Tracy Flick. That’s only a bad thing to insecure men.
Through which prism are you viewing Hillary’s campaign, Hope? Though that of a teen flick as KO did? Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretion had nothing to do with his ability as president to do his job and nothing to do with this election. Where have you been for fifteen months, that you have not seen what corporate media and corrupted politics can do to the most qualified candidate this country has ever had? Haven’t you seen the sexism from women and men alike while the world watched the lack of respect this county has for women?
Why is it wrong to point out Hillary’s flaws or the ineffective packaging of her failed campaign?
Why was it wrong to point out the flaws of her opponent which are deeper and wider? There was nothing wrong with the “packaging” if you believe a president should be chosen on the basis of ability, knowledge and experience or that a political party has a responsibility to chose that person and not use the process to grab power.
That power grab may destroy the DNC, but Hillary will still be and so will Bill Clinton. Do you think Obama ran a good campaign? He doesn’t “get it”. The only thing that’s counts is the GE and he has brushed millions of voters away like dirt. Really smart politics.
Your characterization of Bill’s problems are actually indicative of someone who absorbed the story of the corporate media you’re attacking.
(As an aside, no State-owned media comes even close to ours for impartiality; you may agree with everything the BBC, Pravda or the CBC says, but to imagine that they are even-handed or fully disclose their findings is delusional.)
To put it bluntly: there was no Monica Lewinsky trial. Look it up. The sexual indiscretions that you are referring to wasn’t the issue. Monica Lewinsky was a character witness in the Paula Jones trial. That trial was not for sexual indiscretion, but for sexual harassment.
That’s a crime in itself. The case was eventually dismissed on the grounds that Jones couldn’t prove harm, but not before Clinton settled for $850k, had to pay her $91k for costs incurred because he lied about her, opened up the Lewinsky issue and lied to the court enough (about more than Lewinsky) that he was disbarred.
The Democratic talking point – the one proffered by CNN and the MSM – is that it was all about Lewinsky and sexual indiscretion. Now you know the truth. The question is: will it change your view?
Tracy Flick was a singleminded, win-at-all-costs bitch. I’ve heard Hillary compared to her more than once, but only by people who think Hillary is a singleminded, win-at-all-costs bitch. Like the Doberman.
I suggest you look at “Election” again. And this time, use your brain.
It’s not new, they’ve been doing it for his entire political career. He is a woman-hater. If MEchelle wasn’t such a bitch, he’d probably physically abuse her as well. If it ever comes out that he has, it would not surprise me in any way.
Calling all young ignorant males! Barack Obama needs you to attack your mothers and sisters! Don’t forget the occassional girlfriend. Go out there and put these women in their places! At home with the children!
BO is never even home with his children yet it is Sarah who is the bad mom? I think someone is getting nervous out there!! How amazing it must be to him that she appeals to all of us Moms!
I wasn’t even facing the tv and Iknew he was about to blow!
My husband is so excited that Sarah is VP that he was laughing so loud I could not hear parts of her speech. He thought Roland was going to pop a blood vessel as mad as he was.
What accent? I didn’t hear an accent! And she was born in my homestate of Idaho. And husband and I were stationed for three years in Alaska. That’s not an accent.
Let me ask you something. Obama’s halting conversational style is constantly criticized here. But no one alleges that someone who does that is being sexist in the opposite direction. Why the double standard?
Also, Hope Floats, your previous remarks analyzing the “Election” movie were spot-on IMHO. Keith Olbermann is too dumb to realize that the Tracy Flick character was mostly a very admirable young woman who didn’t take crap from anybody.
Sukiron, get over it. You are going to be challenged on every sexist comment you make by the Republicans. They are going to fight for their candidate and you can’t say you weren’t warned months ago by Hillary.
Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky
| 2008-09-04 16:01:58
Actually, it’s a dialect not an accent. And you guys in the lower 48 sound pretty damned annoying sometimes as well. Especially when you try to sound like you’re some hip street dude from Chicago, when you’re really some rich ass prep school punk from Hawaii.
I agree with you Skiron, Obama’s voice is annoying and condescending. It sounds like a foghorn?
From wikipedia:
All foghorns use a vibrating column of air to create an audible tone, but the method of setting up this vibration differs. Many older foghorns, especially those on land, used diaphones to create the audible sound, producing a distinctive, deep and penetrating tone followed by an all-too-audible ‘grunt’, resulting in the famous two-tone sound that most people associate with foghorns and the sea.
That’s exactly how Obama sounds! You hit the nail on the head Skiron!
And when he speaks before a Southern audience, he starts sounding like a foghorn of a different variety–the leghorn variety, that is, son.
Get it? Foghorn? Leghorn? I made a joke, son. Why aren’t you laughing?
Try not to laugh, but it took me 4 years to kick my Dixie Drawl and manage to sound like a funtioning human being instead of a central Florida service station attendant.
Still, fifty years later, insufficient sleep or excessive Scotch and the odd, “y’all,” escapes me, marking me, forever to the cultural elites who communicate in “Licust Valley Lockjaw,” and, “Yankee Honk,” as an ignorant rustic.
I find this trend on their part to be advantageous to me when I am negotiating business affairs and playing poker with them…
Screw you. OMG you elite Obot are making me ASHAMED that I am a highly educated feminist former liberal democrat from Massachusetts. Can any fellow PUMAs out there offer me suggestions for a nice small town in the Mid-West to relocate to?
Try Champaign-Urbana, IL. It’s a leafy, Victorian brick street kinda place–also home to UIUC, the main campus of the University of Illinois, and therefore is and always has been relatively cosmopolitan for its size.
It’s also within easy driving distance of Chicago (120 miles) when you need a taste of the big dirty city.
Just remember to add an R to words like wash and Washington…
Sarah has an accent? I thought she was speaking standard American English. Funny I did not notice any accent. Does she turn it on and off like Obama goes from Harvard Law School grad to Southern preacher depending on who he’s talking to?
Just as Barack Obama’s NUMEROUS accents, are “annoying” to us as well.
Those would include, but not be limited to: his “Ivy League”, his “Ghetto”, his “Martin Luther King Wanna Be” (which he ain’t) and his “Down Home Boy” complete with shoulder flicking and shooting LEGIT Presidential candidates the finger…
Yes Skiron, since we have had to deal with the schizophrenic voices & positions of Barack Hussein Obama for quite some time now; it’s only fair that you should have to deal with one accent for looks to be the next 16 years…
CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied
CBS) The presidential race between
Barack Obama
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John McCain
is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn’t vote. http://countusout.wordpress.com/
“Perhaps there were moments where it scrolled slightly past her exact point in the speech. But I was sitting in the press section next to the stage, within easy eyeshot of the Teleprompter. I frequently looked up at the machine, and there was no serious malfunction. A top convention planner confirms this morning that there were no major problems.”
Since I was named? Was that when I said that I wasn’t sure what the VP did?
Maybe it was when I said this :
“I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton…but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think you know that doesn’t do us any good – women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.”
It sure doesn’t do the women of this country any good when you complain about sexism then shut up and do what you’re told. I felt a little betrayed when Hillary obeyed the Dems, though some supporters think she was smart to hedge her bets and fight another day. It still makes me certain the Democratic party is corrupt and unfit to control the White House this year.
The REAL Sarah Palin, you know, the one who DOESN’T HIDE BEHIND OTHER PEOPLE’S NAMES BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T HAVE A LIFE, has indeed taken questions AND interviews since her nomination.
One may see them on YouTube – Glenn Beck is one of them and there will be others.
I tune in to MSNBC to listen to Keith’s view of Gov. Palin’s speech and heard what you heard. The assessment was simple that Keith is man who hates women , I can understand the animosity between Bill O Reilly and Bill, lets face it Bill is a pain in the butt sometimes, but it seems that he is not afraid of strong women . I believe Obama is nervous that Palin is in the race because he is doing O Reilly tonight. The DNC screwed up big time and now they will have to eat that mistake. The republicans have found that it is advantage to fight from there strenghts which makes Democrats appear weak.
I used to worship at the feet of Keith Olbermann. Someone was giving voice to my absolute disdain for the corrupt, incompetent Shrub (GWB)while being snarky and clever, and offering inspired turns of phrase. But when he turned on Hillary, and turned big time, I turned my back on him. Occasionally I drop in and find that he is still creating suppositions to favor BHO with those obscure allusions he is so fond of that make him the smartest guy in the room (in his opinion, any way). I hated O’Reilly, but when I saw that BO’R was treating Hillary better than the left-leaning KO, I took another look at him. He continues to bloviate, but he isn’t in the tank for anybody, which is a lot more than I can say for KO and his comrades on MSNBC.
Yes, he is Chicago Joe. He is pure Republican/conservative through and through. He is just much better at being a bloviator than Overhimself is.
I have watched O’Reilly for years and he is very good at what he does. He appears (acts) like he is even handed, and his fans believe he is, but he builds an interview. He layers it. Sometimes he layers in just one interview. And often he layers throygh several and over several days. He builds his case. And right now he is building his case with Obama. Has been for several weeks.
He also has a keen understanding of psychology and he can skewer someone very quickly once he finds their Achilles heel. And I think he knows Obama’s. Tonight should be very interesting. He lets his guest have their say then skewers them with their own words. Few can get past his skills. Hillary did and you could see his appreciation for her her skills. He did not think she had it.
Even his anger and shouting matches is acting to a large extent extent. And his fans eat it up. Overhimself tries to emulate him. But he is not very good at it.
To me she’s bit of cross between Mrs. Smith goes to Washington and Sally Field playing Gidget. (Please do not take the second comparison as a negative). The show did expressed a healthy family attitude and the young actress did go on to win multiple Emmy, Academy and Golden Globe Awards.
Unless they’re strong, black women like Michelle Obama, in which case they’re compared to King Kong, Aunt Esther, Gorillas and men in drag. Keep rockin’, PUMA, vote for the Jiffy Peanut Butter commercial lady to your hearts content.
Play the Race Card all you want, have MO scratch your eyes out, put America down as you are not proud of it, hem an haw about voting for your oppent if they should win….
TwoTermObama; Have you read MO’s thesis ?
Come back when you have and then tell NQ why she is percieved that way you described it.
And by the way take that Jiffy Lube and ram it up your snout. Sally Fields is a talented person. I personally think you might try looking in the mirror and ask your self what it takes to be a man. You and Obama don’t have a clue.
Okay well just to repeat from the other thread “soldier4hillary” will NOT be on that show posted up front on your site. She is in the hospital, please inform whoever is over it.
People are jealous that Palin actually succeeded. But cooler heads are saying things like this:
ST. PAUL — For John McCain — prisoner of war, congressman, senator and now the GOP presidential nominee — his entire life has been building to his address tonight before the Republican National Convention.
The lead-in to his address could hardly have been more ideal. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain’s choice for vice president, surpassed all expectations last night with a speech that established her as both a rising star on the national scene and, at least for now, a major asset for the Republican ticket
From Chris Cilliza, one of the few straight shooters on the Washington Post political writing staff.
Keith “get a shovel” Olbermann’s Tracy Flick jab is without question gender-baiting, not unlike Harry Reid’s “shrill” characterization of Sarah Palin.
Here’s the context:
1. Olbermann is comparing Palin to a fictional character who can truly be characterized as a “nasty little b*tch”. Never mind that it is precisely the job of the VP to be the attack dog. Male VP candidates are generally NOT criticized for being attack dogs, indeed they are often criticized for not attacking enough. Translation: Double standard w.r.t. gender, i.e. gender-baiting.
Further, Olbershit must then condemn Hillary for trashing McCain, e.g. “No way, no how, no McCain!” and so on, and Ann Richards for saying Bush41 was “born with a silver foot in his mouth”. After Hillary played the dutiful Democrat supporting Obama in her convention speech recently, Olbermann actually said “I’m proud of her!”
2. Obama himself has played so dirty with all manner of race-baiting zingers, gender-baiting zingers, and character assassinating zingers. There’s clearly no consistency on the part of Keith “get a shovel” Olbermann when it comes to Obama’s blatant likewise transgressions. Indeed, Obama’s transgressions, particularly those against Hillary were far worse since they were mostly viciously lies.
When there is no consistency, the context is corrupt. When the context is corrupt, the subtext kicks in. In this case, the subtext is gender.
The subtext of gender is always present for Palin since Palin is a woman in a group which has pretty much been exclusively men, with the only exception of Geraldine Ferraro. Of course, the “group” here is that of credible VP candidates. (Same goes for Hillary, but the group in Hillary’s case is the group of credible Dem/GOP candidates for nominee for President, which was exclusively men before Hillary. Similarly, the subtext for Obama is race, since he is the first minority/African American nominee of a major party.) Subtext is always present for Palin since there is always a difference in her case, i.e. in a crowd of men, she naturally stands out. Similarly for Obama; the subtext of race is always present because next to all the white candidates, he naturally stands out.
But remember, subtext kicks in only if the context is corrupt. Context can be corrupted in any of the following ways:
i. Lies: There is simply no context for lies and other forms of scurrilous accusations.
ii. Double standards: Whites treated deferentially from blacks and vice versa. Men treated deferentially from women and vice versa. And so on.
iii. Cherrypicking: Disproportionally emphasizing one set of facts over another. An object, statement, etc., can only be understood in (or uttered) in its proper context, i.e. full set of relevant facts surrounding the object or statement in question. When you take things out of context, they lose their meaning. Cherrypicking facts does precisely this. Politicians, particularly Obama, do this when they flip-flop.
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Each and every time Obama scurrilously race-baited Hillary, such as sending out his assassins to say Hilalry “denigrated Dr. King!”, it also invariably resulted in gender baiting of Hillary. Why? Beacause any and all lies corrupt the context, thereby letting subtext kick in.
Here’s an intuitive way of looking at this: Ask any person who actually believes Hillary is truly guilty of denigrating Dr. King to summarize the situation in one sentence and they will invariably say: “That white woman is playing the race card against a black man.” The words which obviously stick out are: “white”, “black” and “woman”. “White” and “black” means the subtext of race has kicked in, whereas the word “woman” similarly means that the gender subtext has also kicked in. (Note: They’re not gonna say in gender neutral terms, i.e. “That white senator is playing the race card…”)
That is what makes Hillary Clinton such a racist is that she is not only white, but also that she is a woman, for in the past, the race card has never come up so vilely within the Democratic party’s primaries. But in the past, all the candidates were men, ergo Hillary is a racist bitch!
It should be added that Palin’s attacks on Obama were mostly accurate, such as on his condescending “bitter” comment (which btw was also racist for it’s “antipathy towards those that aren’t like them… antipathy towards immigrants…” portion) or his numerous acts of brazen resume padding.
It’s okay to cherrypick a little in partisan attacks, just as it is okay for Bill and Hillary to cherrypick facts in favor of Obama during their respective Dem. Convention speeches. As long as the attacks/compliments, cherrypicking and whatnot, are not way out of bounds, then it’s all good.
I love watching MSDNC it is the best raw uncut humor…this afternoon for example..
Fineman went on a 5 minute rant against the Repubs that was must see TV…google it. Then ,as he is calming down (sort of) he admits that the lack of access that he was just bitching about, has been a problem with the Obama camp since the start of the campaign…
so let’s review Obama has offered almost no access to the candidate and you bitching because McCain decided to follow suit 60 days BEFORE the election…what a wimp. McCain what took you so long??
Then there is the Noonan fiasco…Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy were on live mics but had cut away to commercial…Someone @ MSNODICK taped the conversation, altered the content and posted it on the internet…it is featured on Huffblow…
Noonan is livid, says the tape was altered and released by MSNBC crew….
LOVE IT!!
It is so crazy that the boss has all the anchors separated for the Repub party, with now Keith in NYC and Spits Matthews in a park blocks away from the convention interviewing protesters, and Shuster the “roaming” and Andrea Bitchell in the convention floor.. just so they don’t beat the crap out of each other..
I think BRAVO should make a reality show about it.
why am i the only one that remembers the speechwriters scandal of the 80s, where peggy noonan and others were caught on tape totally badmouthing reagan? i vividly remember this, but no one else seems to. i guess it was the most elaborate dream i ever had. even had my dream on video tape for years. too bad there wasn’t the internet then.
At any rate, Chris Matthews not knowing he was just ont he air was in a yelling match with someone on his panel in the language of, “Hell, it’s always an all out war with you.”
If I had to wager I’d say 10:1 he was calling Ohlbermann on something.
I don’t know that I’m willing to agree about Obama and his supposed misogyny. However, if it is the case (I just hear more accusation than evidence), it would be utterly indicative of a man who was raised without a father, as is much of Obama’s identity.
Boys without fathers, as the Progressive poet Robert Bly noted, do not have much respect for women. At the same time, they seek to be dominated by them – having that role as a parent throughout their lives.
Obama is, frankly, effete. Not just in his physical appearance or in the way he holds his shoulders, his hips and his hands (don’t blame me, read Walt Whitman’s description in “I Sing the Body Electric”), but in the fact that all his pursuits are and were finesse. Look, Teddy Roosevelt was born with a weak body. He trained it, yes, but he also trained his mind at the same time. Whizzer White is another example. Obama can sink a 3-pointer with no one around to pressure him. That’s finesse.
It’s not surprising that Palin’s sharpest barb of the night was the one about the Presidency not being a personal journey. That’s exactly what one who does not know himself would see it as. It cuts so far down to the bone on Obama, you can see his heart beating. It’s exactly why he has so much venom for her, and why he’s allowing himself to be drawn into a conflict with the bottom of the Republican ticket.
Obama’s entire life has been about a guy trying however he can to find the man in himself his father never put there. Part of choosing a black identity, instead of having the courage to say, “I will have no racial identity” is part of that. Go to iTunesU and look for a Stanford interview with Shelby Steele.
Only a GOP troll believes that the Lewinsky mess was about something other than sex, specifically Clinton’s sexual relations with Monica. Did you read the Starr report? If it had been any more prurient Larry Flynt would have been ashamed to publish it. It was all sex,sex, sex, for you small-minded trolls. And yeah, sexual harassment is a crime, but there is zero evidence that Bill committed this. He never lied about the totally non-credible Paula Jones whose entire claim rested on the “fact” that he once forgot to buy her flowers on Secretary’s Day. Yeah, maybe in strict legal terms it wasn’t “about sex” but in the dirty, twisted little minds that make up the GOP that is precisely what it was.
Also agree with what Hope Float said about Tracy Flick. “Election” is not a “teen movie,” by the way. Far from it. And yes, it’s the corrupt teacher who is the craven, cheating, Barackesque character. He undermines Tracy’s campaign because he believes that she’s TEH EEEEVIL and that his chosen candidate is all sweetness and purity. Sound familiar?
[...] Tracy Flick, My Ass (by Larry Johnson at No Quarter) Keith Olbermann, who paused temporarily from washing the gnarly, stinky feet of Barack Obama with his tears, described Sarah Palin’s speech as a Tracy Flick moment. Are you kidding me? Tracy Flick, for those who are not movie buffs, is a character Reese Witherspoon played in the movie, Election. Flick is a conniving, back stabbing bitch… But these lefty neanderthal, misogynist bastards are wrong. Sara Palin ain’t Tracy Flick. Nope, she’s Marge Gunderson. Who? You haven’t seen Fargo? A great movie by the Coen brothers. Anyway, Marge Gunderson is the pregnant sheriff who tracks down and nabs murdering kidnappers. Oh, and she loves her husband. Marge Gunderson is a tough, no nonsense, smart lady. Now we have the real thing–meet Sarah Palin. As I’ve said before, I disagree with Sarah Palin on every issue. But Democrats who refuse to recognize her appeal will not be able to deal with it. And that’s a recipe for loss. Again. [...]
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From what I understand Sarah Palin is a former-mayor of a town of about 9000 people. I choose to ignore that she’s governor of a state and focus on this, and pretend not to be dismissive. Then I will act offended when the same happens to me. PS how can she handle motherhood and a job?
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
I never thought Tracy Flick was a conniving, backstabbing bitch. I thought the corrupt teacher who was bitter because his friend got fired for sleeping with his student took out his own marital frustrations and guilty sexual fantasies out on this, yes, robotic, ambitious and politically ruthless girl, propped up a candidate who just wanted to kill time since he couldn’t play football, and STOLE BALLOTS cast for her, leading to his firing and the breakup of his marriage. Tracy Flick is totally Hillary Clinton, and I say that as someone who likes the movie Election.
Another Troll — as usual another sexist pig.
The new meme from camp Obama is slam women whenever the trolls get a chance.
Tracy Flick is an anti-hero who pokes fun at male castration panic. It was a timely movie and set the table for the most likely first woman to run for President on a major party ticket and what she would have to face. Why is it wrong to point out Hillary’s flaws or the ineffective packaging of her failed campaign? Hillary allowed herself to be defined by her opponent, and it was easy. She stood by her husband. I don’t condemn her for that, but it made it hard for her to appeal to a lot of women as someone who stands up to the male-dominated power structure. Hillary made it clear she would never bake cookies. She said she wanted her own political career playing a major role in her husband’s administration. Many women admired her for that. But those scandals of his, fairly or not, stuck to her. She ran for office in a pantsuit, as a fighter, drinking and cussing with the boys, because that’s who she is. She has been in Washington for a long time and relates more to the big cities.
EVERY POLITICIAN WHO RUNS FOR OFFICE CARICATURES THEMSELVES.
Hillary Clinton was Tracy Flick. That’s only a bad thing to insecure men.
Through which prism are you viewing Hillary’s campaign, Hope? Though that of a teen flick as KO did? Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretion had nothing to do with his ability as president to do his job and nothing to do with this election. Where have you been for fifteen months, that you have not seen what corporate media and corrupted politics can do to the most qualified candidate this country has ever had? Haven’t you seen the sexism from women and men alike while the world watched the lack of respect this county has for women?
Why is it wrong to point out Hillary’s flaws or the ineffective packaging of her failed campaign?
Why was it wrong to point out the flaws of her opponent which are deeper and wider? There was nothing wrong with the “packaging” if you believe a president should be chosen on the basis of ability, knowledge and experience or that a political party has a responsibility to chose that person and not use the process to grab power.
That power grab may destroy the DNC, but Hillary will still be and so will Bill Clinton. Do you think Obama ran a good campaign? He doesn’t “get it”. The only thing that’s counts is the GE and he has brushed millions of voters away like dirt. Really smart politics.
Elise,
Your characterization of Bill’s problems are actually indicative of someone who absorbed the story of the corporate media you’re attacking.
(As an aside, no State-owned media comes even close to ours for impartiality; you may agree with everything the BBC, Pravda or the CBC says, but to imagine that they are even-handed or fully disclose their findings is delusional.)
To put it bluntly: there was no Monica Lewinsky trial. Look it up. The sexual indiscretions that you are referring to wasn’t the issue. Monica Lewinsky was a character witness in the Paula Jones trial. That trial was not for sexual indiscretion, but for sexual harassment.
That’s a crime in itself. The case was eventually dismissed on the grounds that Jones couldn’t prove harm, but not before Clinton settled for $850k, had to pay her $91k for costs incurred because he lied about her, opened up the Lewinsky issue and lied to the court enough (about more than Lewinsky) that he was disbarred.
The Democratic talking point – the one proffered by CNN and the MSM – is that it was all about Lewinsky and sexual indiscretion. Now you know the truth. The question is: will it change your view?
Tracy Flick was a singleminded, win-at-all-costs bitch. I’ve heard Hillary compared to her more than once, but only by people who think Hillary is a singleminded, win-at-all-costs bitch. Like the Doberman.
I suggest you look at “Election” again. And this time, use your brain.
It’s not new, they’ve been doing it for his entire political career. He is a woman-hater. If MEchelle wasn’t such a bitch, he’d probably physically abuse her as well. If it ever comes out that he has, it would not surprise me in any way.
I am sick of this crap from the Obamamaniacs. Found another site dedicated to our cause. http://www.RacistsAgainstMisogyny.com
Calling all young ignorant males! Barack Obama needs you to attack your mothers and sisters! Don’t forget the occassional girlfriend. Go out there and put these women in their places! At home with the children!
BO is never even home with his children yet it is Sarah who is the bad mom? I think someone is getting nervous out there!! How amazing it must be to him that she appeals to all of us Moms!
Mccain/Palin 08
Their motto? “SHUT UP, BITCH!”
Country First!
NOBAMA
McCain/Palin Will Get my VOTE!
Thank you Larry, thank you. That was about the point when I switched off MSNBC in favor of CNN.
Bleech– CNN.
Last night, Roland Martin’s blood pressure was so high, he lost his spleen out an orifice! “Community organizers unite for Obama!!!!”
Nevermind they are already out there re-registering voters for Obama.
*snicker*
It was my desperate attempt to receive fair and balanced coverage. On a surprising note, Campbell Brown wasn’t nasty.
Maybe when she got home three nights ago, Dan Senor took all her mirrors away.
you should really start watching FOX News instead. Much, much better than the others.
I wasn’t even facing the tv and Iknew he was about to blow!
My husband is so excited that Sarah is VP that he was laughing so loud I could not hear parts of her speech. He thought Roland was going to pop a blood vessel as mad as he was.
Oh, now Larry…give Keith a break. You KNOW he can’t relate to a Marge Gunderson type. Not “cosmopolitan” enough for him.
Besides, that…WHO CARES WHAT KEITH OLBLAHMAN THINKS ANYMORE?!!!
They have DISQUALIFIED themselves from any relevant opinions on this election with their biased, sexist, and totally WHACKED commentary!
I would call for a boycott on this bastard but myself and everyone I know already won’t watch him…so who gives a crap about his sorry ass…
And her annoying accent is remarkably similar to Marge’s as well.
Well get used to it because she’s your next Vice President troll.
At least she doesn’t talk down her nose to Americans …. and talk America down to our allies and enemies alike.
Another sexist pig troll.
One of the talking heads on npr called Sarah’s accent — upper Pacific Northwest.
Get used to our way of talking you idiot trolls and Obamabots!!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
What accent? I didn’t hear an accent! And she was born in my homestate of Idaho. And husband and I were stationed for three years in Alaska. That’s not an accent.
Bots are elitist snobs like their messiah.
There’s that good ol’ sexism card…I just knew one of you PUMAs would pull that one out, with no justification whatsoever.
That’s the point. Like Barky, you and the racism card. Payback is an annoying female with a brain, spine and an Alaskan dialect.
Hahahaah! How does it feel, tough guy? Pretty hot in the kitchen, isn’t it? Now get out and brush it off your shoulders! HAhAHAAHAHAhAHah!
Making fun of the “annoying” way she talks?
Tell me.
Does it sound like your first wife standing outside of probate court?
Fingernails on a chalkboard?
Would you describe it as shrill?
When Sarah Palin speaks, do you just hear her “annoying” voice telling you to take out the trash?
Then she speaks for me, too. The heave ho, you bum.
Let me ask you something. Obama’s halting conversational style is constantly criticized here. But no one alleges that someone who does that is being sexist in the opposite direction. Why the double standard?
Someone who has an accent can still put together a coherent sentence and be understood.
Someone who has a “halting” style can’t even form a coherent sentence in his head…unless it’s on a teleprompter.
Accent != Lack of Coherence. Big difference.
Oh, and if you wanna bring up accents, let’s hear Barry call out evening prayers…how’s that accent now?
Reverse sexism? Is that anything like reverse racism?
Wow–
This remark is poetry.
Also, Hope Floats, your previous remarks analyzing the “Election” movie were spot-on IMHO. Keith Olbermann is too dumb to realize that the Tracy Flick character was mostly a very admirable young woman who didn’t take crap from anybody.
Thanks for the insights.
Sukiron, get over it. You are going to be challenged on every sexist comment you make by the Republicans. They are going to fight for their candidate and you can’t say you weren’t warned months ago by Hillary.
And yours probably sounds just sooo perfect right? Where you from dork, Rat Island?
Actually, it’s a dialect not an accent. And you guys in the lower 48 sound pretty damned annoying sometimes as well. Especially when you try to sound like you’re some hip street dude from Chicago, when you’re really some rich ass prep school punk from Hawaii.
At least she knows how to construct a complete sentence without injecting “ummm” or “uhhh” between every other word.
I agree with you Skiron, Obama’s voice is annoying and condescending. It sounds like a foghorn?
From wikipedia:
That’s exactly how Obama sounds! You hit the nail on the head Skiron!
And when he speaks before a Southern audience, he starts sounding like a foghorn of a different variety–the leghorn variety, that is, son.
Get it? Foghorn? Leghorn? I made a joke, son. Why aren’t you laughing?
Try not to laugh, but it took me 4 years to kick my Dixie Drawl and manage to sound like a funtioning human being instead of a central Florida service station attendant.
Still, fifty years later, insufficient sleep or excessive Scotch and the odd, “y’all,” escapes me, marking me, forever to the cultural elites who communicate in “Licust Valley Lockjaw,” and, “Yankee Honk,” as an ignorant rustic.
I find this trend on their part to be advantageous to me when I am negotiating business affairs and playing poker with them…
Screw you. OMG you elite Obot are making me ASHAMED that I am a highly educated feminist former liberal democrat from Massachusetts. Can any fellow PUMAs out there offer me suggestions for a nice small town in the Mid-West to relocate to?
You’re so right. I’m such an elitist if I don’t like the sound of her voice.
No, you’re just an idiot.
Tuppence,
Try Champaign-Urbana, IL. It’s a leafy, Victorian brick street kinda place–also home to UIUC, the main campus of the University of Illinois, and therefore is and always has been relatively cosmopolitan for its size.
It’s also within easy driving distance of Chicago (120 miles) when you need a taste of the big dirty city.
Just remember to add an R to words like wash and Washington…
“Champaign-Urbana…the Twin Cities!” - John Belushi.
Sarah has an accent? I thought she was speaking standard American English. Funny I did not notice any accent. Does she turn it on and off like Obama goes from Harvard Law School grad to Southern preacher depending on who he’s talking to?
Right on, ritamary. Why doesn’t anyone call him out on that?
So if I speak with a “kite” accent you got something agianst that? EH?
Or are we down to accents instead of Qualifications and Judgement?
You have never lived in a major CITY?
Just as Barack Obama’s NUMEROUS accents, are “annoying” to us as well.
Those would include, but not be limited to: his “Ivy League”, his “Ghetto”, his “Martin Luther King Wanna Be” (which he ain’t) and his “Down Home Boy” complete with shoulder flicking and shooting LEGIT Presidential candidates the finger…
Yes Skiron, since we have had to deal with the schizophrenic voices & positions of Barack Hussein Obama for quite some time now; it’s only fair that you should have to deal with one accent for looks to be the next 16 years…
What kind of man fears women so much that he hates them? What kind of person is obsessed with demeaning, degrading and trashing smart powerful women?
Pathetic, weak, insecure and pathologically jealous.
OBAMA?
I dunno, let’s ask Andrew Sullivan. shall we?
Good catch, Larry…and good analogy.
re: Obama’s press Release
“Palin can wash my dishes anytime”
Sincerely,
Barrack Obama
CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied
CBS) The presidential race between
Barack Obama
and
John McCain
is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn’t vote.
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
Sadly, that’s pretty much par for the course for Olbermann.
meanwhile, B0 thinks now election should be about issues, not personalities. huh?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/obama-now-its-issues-not-personalities/
Notice Obots always say we should stick to the issues but they can trash anyone whenever they choose.
So I guess that’s Mr. Obama in the wood chipper.
Goog one.Arabella Trefoil …
So I guess that’s Mr. Obama in the wood chipper.
LOL Good one.
Palin winging her speech last night shows that Barack Obama has a rival for his “oratory supremacy.”
Could you imagine Obama vs. Palin if Obama’s teleprompter went blank?
Well, uh…um…you see…uh uh….um…ya know, it’s…uh…. um….. uh….
Then again, all he has to do is memorize the handy dandy Obama speech forumla:
1. Noun, Verb, George Bush is bad. (applause)
2. Noun, Verb, Hope. (cue white girl fainting)
3. Noun, Verb, Change. (cue crying old black lady)
Repeat 1 – 3.
Worked during the primary!
Take it from your neighbor in Broward, that’s priceless.
Well, uh…um…you see…uh uh….um…ya know, it’s…uh…. um….. uh….
A remarkable summary of Obama’s non-teleprompted oratorical genius.
The teleprompter did not go blank!! Read the Politico. If she is so good without a prepared speech, then why won’t she take questions?
No “only” the first two lines on top disappeared so she couldn’t see them making it almost useless.
Politico:
“Perhaps there were moments where it scrolled slightly past her exact point in the speech. But I was sitting in the press section next to the stage, within easy eyeshot of the Teleprompter. I frequently looked up at the machine, and there was no serious malfunction. A top convention planner confirms this morning that there were no major problems.”
I heard a different report than that. In any case she is able to answer questions. You are grasping desperately at straws.
Since when won’t she take questions? I saw an excellent interview of her by Maria Bartiromo. She was certainly taking questions then.
Also, when does Obummer ever take questions?
Since I was named? Was that when I said that I wasn’t sure what the VP did?
Maybe it was when I said this :
“I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton…but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think you know that doesn’t do us any good – women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.”
(How is that?)
It sure doesn’t do the women of this country any good when you complain about sexism then shut up and do what you’re told. I felt a little betrayed when Hillary obeyed the Dems, though some supporters think she was smart to hedge her bets and fight another day. It still makes me certain the Democratic party is corrupt and unfit to control the White House this year.
Asshole why do you leave the beginning of that out, where she says Hillary was treated unfair?
Also she was being snarky when she said what exactly does a VP do, because she likes working very hard.
Sarah Palin refers to herself in the first tense.
Your snark = FAIL.
then why won’t she take questions?
Talk to Obama about that mmk?
He is Queen of the the “SNOW CONE of Silence”
Which questions of Governor Palin do you want answer?
Have you blown 20 red lights yet?
The REAL Sarah Palin, you know, the one who DOESN’T HIDE BEHIND OTHER PEOPLE’S NAMES BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T HAVE A LIFE, has indeed taken questions AND interviews since her nomination.
One may see them on YouTube – Glenn Beck is one of them and there will be others.
Poor Keithie.
CBS now has a new poll, 42-42 tie. Poll taken mostly before Palin’s speech.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
And the 527’s haven’t even lobbed their first incendiary. And the electoral map ain’t too perdy for poor Barky either.
they also used the tracy flick analogy with hillary: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid988092926?bctid=1377935786
i guess if you are a woman politician, you’ve got to be the overambitious, cheating tracy flick.
I tune in to MSNBC to listen to Keith’s view of Gov. Palin’s speech and heard what you heard. The assessment was simple that Keith is man who hates women , I can understand the animosity between Bill O Reilly and Bill, lets face it Bill is a pain in the butt sometimes, but it seems that he is not afraid of strong women . I believe Obama is nervous that Palin is in the race because he is doing O Reilly tonight. The DNC screwed up big time and now they will have to eat that mistake. The republicans have found that it is advantage to fight from there strenghts which makes Democrats appear weak.
I used to worship at the feet of Keith Olbermann. Someone was giving voice to my absolute disdain for the corrupt, incompetent Shrub (GWB)while being snarky and clever, and offering inspired turns of phrase. But when he turned on Hillary, and turned big time, I turned my back on him. Occasionally I drop in and find that he is still creating suppositions to favor BHO with those obscure allusions he is so fond of that make him the smartest guy in the room (in his opinion, any way). I hated O’Reilly, but when I saw that BO’R was treating Hillary better than the left-leaning KO, I took another look at him. He continues to bloviate, but he isn’t in the tank for anybody, which is a lot more than I can say for KO and his comrades on MSNBC.
but he (Bill-O) isn’t in the tank for anybody,
Yes, he is Chicago Joe. He is pure Republican/conservative through and through. He is just much better at being a bloviator than Overhimself is.
I have watched O’Reilly for years and he is very good at what he does. He appears (acts) like he is even handed, and his fans believe he is, but he builds an interview. He layers it. Sometimes he layers in just one interview. And often he layers throygh several and over several days. He builds his case. And right now he is building his case with Obama. Has been for several weeks.
He also has a keen understanding of psychology and he can skewer someone very quickly once he finds their Achilles heel. And I think he knows Obama’s. Tonight should be very interesting. He lets his guest have their say then skewers them with their own words. Few can get past his skills. Hillary did and you could see his appreciation for her her skills. He did not think she had it.
Even his anger and shouting matches is acting to a large extent extent. And his fans eat it up. Overhimself tries to emulate him. But he is not very good at it.
but he isn’t in the tank for anybody,
Except himself…Bo and him have a lot in common that way…
I take ‘em all with a large grain of salt these days….
To me she’s bit of cross between Mrs. Smith goes to Washington and Sally Field playing Gidget. (Please do not take the second comparison as a negative). The show did expressed a healthy family attitude and the young actress did go on to win multiple Emmy, Academy and Golden Globe Awards.
Hillary was compared to Tracy Flick too. All women, it seems, look the same to these people.
Unless they’re strong, black women like Michelle Obama, in which case they’re compared to King Kong, Aunt Esther, Gorillas and men in drag. Keep rockin’, PUMA, vote for the Jiffy Peanut Butter commercial lady to your hearts content.
(Obnoxious Sally Fields voice):
“Choosy creationist, anti-choice, soccer mothers choose John McCain!”
Play the Race Card all you want, have MO scratch your eyes out, put America down as you are not proud of it, hem an haw about voting for your oppent if they should win….
TwoTermObama; Have you read MO’s thesis ?
Come back when you have and then tell NQ why she is percieved that way you described it.
And by the way take that Jiffy Lube and ram it up your snout. Sally Fields is a talented person. I personally think you might try looking in the mirror and ask your self what it takes to be a man. You and Obama don’t have a clue.
>>> Sally Fields is a talented person.
Plus: We LIKE her…we really LIKE her!
OMG, I’m so glad I’m no longer a Dem! They are outright running scared of this woman!
Hats off to the republicans who stood up for the sexism against our new VP!
I can’t wait until Nov 5 so I can sit and laugh! Rollin was a total ass last night. he didn’t know what to say. A real joke!!
Andrew Sullivan and Keith Olbermann are one and the same. I HAVE PROOF.
Okay well just to repeat from the other thread “soldier4hillary” will NOT be on that show posted up front on your site. She is in the hospital, please inform whoever is over it.
Thoughts and prayers to her.
People are jealous that Palin actually succeeded. But cooler heads are saying things like this:
From Chris Cilliza, one of the few straight shooters on the Washington Post political writing staff.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccains_speech_what_does_he_ne.html?hpid=topnews
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It’s all tied up again — Last week’s CBS poll had Obama up by 8. It’s now even. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml Polling was done Mon.-Wed. It is unclear if any was done before Palin’s speech, but at most they got a few hours of polling in.
Keith “get a shovel” Olbermann’s Tracy Flick jab is without question gender-baiting, not unlike Harry Reid’s “shrill” characterization of Sarah Palin.
Here’s the context:
1. Olbermann is comparing Palin to a fictional character who can truly be characterized as a “nasty little b*tch”. Never mind that it is precisely the job of the VP to be the attack dog. Male VP candidates are generally NOT criticized for being attack dogs, indeed they are often criticized for not attacking enough. Translation: Double standard w.r.t. gender, i.e. gender-baiting.
Further, Olbershit must then condemn Hillary for trashing McCain, e.g. “No way, no how, no McCain!” and so on, and Ann Richards for saying Bush41 was “born with a silver foot in his mouth”. After Hillary played the dutiful Democrat supporting Obama in her convention speech recently, Olbermann actually said “I’m proud of her!”
2. Obama himself has played so dirty with all manner of race-baiting zingers, gender-baiting zingers, and character assassinating zingers. There’s clearly no consistency on the part of Keith “get a shovel” Olbermann when it comes to Obama’s blatant likewise transgressions. Indeed, Obama’s transgressions, particularly those against Hillary were far worse since they were mostly viciously lies.
When there is no consistency, the context is corrupt. When the context is corrupt, the subtext kicks in. In this case, the subtext is gender.
The subtext of gender is always present for Palin since Palin is a woman in a group which has pretty much been exclusively men, with the only exception of Geraldine Ferraro. Of course, the “group” here is that of credible VP candidates. (Same goes for Hillary, but the group in Hillary’s case is the group of credible Dem/GOP candidates for nominee for President, which was exclusively men before Hillary. Similarly, the subtext for Obama is race, since he is the first minority/African American nominee of a major party.) Subtext is always present for Palin since there is always a difference in her case, i.e. in a crowd of men, she naturally stands out. Similarly for Obama; the subtext of race is always present because next to all the white candidates, he naturally stands out.
But remember, subtext kicks in only if the context is corrupt. Context can be corrupted in any of the following ways:
i. Lies: There is simply no context for lies and other forms of scurrilous accusations.
ii. Double standards: Whites treated deferentially from blacks and vice versa. Men treated deferentially from women and vice versa. And so on.
iii. Cherrypicking: Disproportionally emphasizing one set of facts over another. An object, statement, etc., can only be understood in (or uttered) in its proper context, i.e. full set of relevant facts surrounding the object or statement in question. When you take things out of context, they lose their meaning. Cherrypicking facts does precisely this. Politicians, particularly Obama, do this when they flip-flop.
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Each and every time Obama scurrilously race-baited Hillary, such as sending out his assassins to say Hilalry “denigrated Dr. King!”, it also invariably resulted in gender baiting of Hillary. Why? Beacause any and all lies corrupt the context, thereby letting subtext kick in.
Here’s an intuitive way of looking at this: Ask any person who actually believes Hillary is truly guilty of denigrating Dr. King to summarize the situation in one sentence and they will invariably say: “That white woman is playing the race card against a black man.” The words which obviously stick out are: “white”, “black” and “woman”. “White” and “black” means the subtext of race has kicked in, whereas the word “woman” similarly means that the gender subtext has also kicked in. (Note: They’re not gonna say in gender neutral terms, i.e. “That white senator is playing the race card…”)
That is what makes Hillary Clinton such a racist is that she is not only white, but also that she is a woman, for in the past, the race card has never come up so vilely within the Democratic party’s primaries. But in the past, all the candidates were men, ergo Hillary is a racist bitch!
It should be added that Palin’s attacks on Obama were mostly accurate, such as on his condescending “bitter” comment (which btw was also racist for it’s “antipathy towards those that aren’t like them… antipathy towards immigrants…” portion) or his numerous acts of brazen resume padding.
It’s okay to cherrypick a little in partisan attacks, just as it is okay for Bill and Hillary to cherrypick facts in favor of Obama during their respective Dem. Convention speeches. As long as the attacks/compliments, cherrypicking and whatnot, are not way out of bounds, then it’s all good.
I love watching MSDNC it is the best raw uncut humor…this afternoon for example..
Fineman went on a 5 minute rant against the Repubs that was must see TV…google it. Then ,as he is calming down (sort of) he admits that the lack of access that he was just bitching about, has been a problem with the Obama camp since the start of the campaign…
so let’s review Obama has offered almost no access to the candidate and you bitching because McCain decided to follow suit 60 days BEFORE the election…what a wimp. McCain what took you so long??
Then there is the Noonan fiasco…Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy were on live mics but had cut away to commercial…Someone @ MSNODICK taped the conversation, altered the content and posted it on the internet…it is featured on Huffblow…
Noonan is livid, says the tape was altered and released by MSNBC crew….
LOVE IT!!
It is so crazy that the boss has all the anchors separated for the Repub party, with now Keith in NYC and Spits Matthews in a park blocks away from the convention interviewing protesters, and Shuster the “roaming” and Andrea Bitchell in the convention floor.. just so they don’t beat the crap out of each other..
I think BRAVO should make a reality show about it.
It is so much fun…better than TRACY FLICK.
I wish they could all be extras on Pushing Daisies!
why am i the only one that remembers the speechwriters scandal of the 80s, where peggy noonan and others were caught on tape totally badmouthing reagan? i vividly remember this, but no one else seems to. i guess it was the most elaborate dream i ever had. even had my dream on video tape for years. too bad there wasn’t the internet then.
That movie is a cult classic.
At any rate, Chris Matthews not knowing he was just ont he air was in a yelling match with someone on his panel in the language of, “Hell, it’s always an all out war with you.”
If I had to wager I’d say 10:1 he was calling Ohlbermann on something.
That’s interesting.
Palin reminds me a little of schoolteacher-turned-president Laura Roslin on Battlestar Galactica
What’s a community organizer? Whole crowd and viewers were LAUGHING.
PUMA 2008!
Barky promised Keith good sex if he keeps going.
Which one’s nickname is, “Rusty Trombone?”
Is the other one, “Dirty Sanchez?”
Inquiring minds and all that…
This guy reminds me of Olbermann:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l33ohfzgk9k&feature=related
She is a neocon Hillary lite. That’s why you PUMAs have glommed on to her. Too sad it won’t help her and McDepends win, though.
John and Sarah will kick Barky and what can America do for me Michille’s ass all the way back to Chicago. No White House for them.
I don’t know what’s wrong with being compared to tracy flick. she was committed, ambitious, and the most qualified. And in the end, she wins….
I don’t know that I’m willing to agree about Obama and his supposed misogyny. However, if it is the case (I just hear more accusation than evidence), it would be utterly indicative of a man who was raised without a father, as is much of Obama’s identity.
Boys without fathers, as the Progressive poet Robert Bly noted, do not have much respect for women. At the same time, they seek to be dominated by them – having that role as a parent throughout their lives.
Obama is, frankly, effete. Not just in his physical appearance or in the way he holds his shoulders, his hips and his hands (don’t blame me, read Walt Whitman’s description in “I Sing the Body Electric”), but in the fact that all his pursuits are and were finesse. Look, Teddy Roosevelt was born with a weak body. He trained it, yes, but he also trained his mind at the same time. Whizzer White is another example. Obama can sink a 3-pointer with no one around to pressure him. That’s finesse.
It’s not surprising that Palin’s sharpest barb of the night was the one about the Presidency not being a personal journey. That’s exactly what one who does not know himself would see it as. It cuts so far down to the bone on Obama, you can see his heart beating. It’s exactly why he has so much venom for her, and why he’s allowing himself to be drawn into a conflict with the bottom of the Republican ticket.
Obama’s entire life has been about a guy trying however he can to find the man in himself his father never put there. Part of choosing a black identity, instead of having the courage to say, “I will have no racial identity” is part of that. Go to iTunesU and look for a Stanford interview with Shelby Steele.
amos,
Only a GOP troll believes that the Lewinsky mess was about something other than sex, specifically Clinton’s sexual relations with Monica. Did you read the Starr report? If it had been any more prurient Larry Flynt would have been ashamed to publish it. It was all sex,sex, sex, for you small-minded trolls. And yeah, sexual harassment is a crime, but there is zero evidence that Bill committed this. He never lied about the totally non-credible Paula Jones whose entire claim rested on the “fact” that he once forgot to buy her flowers on Secretary’s Day. Yeah, maybe in strict legal terms it wasn’t “about sex” but in the dirty, twisted little minds that make up the GOP that is precisely what it was.
Also agree with what Hope Float said about Tracy Flick. “Election” is not a “teen movie,” by the way. Far from it. And yes, it’s the corrupt teacher who is the craven, cheating, Barackesque character. He undermines Tracy’s campaign because he believes that she’s TEH EEEEVIL and that his chosen candidate is all sweetness and purity. Sound familiar?
[...] Tracy Flick, My Ass (by Larry Johnson at No Quarter) Keith Olbermann, who paused temporarily from washing the gnarly, stinky feet of Barack Obama with his tears, described Sarah Palin’s speech as a Tracy Flick moment. Are you kidding me? Tracy Flick, for those who are not movie buffs, is a character Reese Witherspoon played in the movie, Election. Flick is a conniving, back stabbing bitch… But these lefty neanderthal, misogynist bastards are wrong. Sara Palin ain’t Tracy Flick. Nope, she’s Marge Gunderson. Who? You haven’t seen Fargo? A great movie by the Coen brothers. Anyway, Marge Gunderson is the pregnant sheriff who tracks down and nabs murdering kidnappers. Oh, and she loves her husband. Marge Gunderson is a tough, no nonsense, smart lady. Now we have the real thing–meet Sarah Palin. As I’ve said before, I disagree with Sarah Palin on every issue. But Democrats who refuse to recognize her appeal will not be able to deal with it. And that’s a recipe for loss. Again. [...]