The Difference
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on September 5, 2008 at 9:15 AM in Arrogance, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, DNC, DNC idiocy, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, Misogyny, Sarah Palin, Sexism
Between how the Republicans deal with sexism in this election, and how the Democrats have dealt with sexism is mighty telling. The latter were mum, until after Hillary conceded the race then they made some noise about how things weren’t so great on the whole woman thing. The one exception was Geraldine Ferraro standing up for Hillary. She got labeled a racist for her trouble. I should add, not only did the DNC not speak up, they actually got in a few digs, too.
Not so the Republicans. I take NO credit for these next two pieces at all – they came from alert readers at No Quarter. The first one is from “Hope Floats,” who posted the following article:
September 3, 2008
GOP Women Call Palin Critics Sexist
Posted by BLAKE DVORAK
ST. PAUL — Top Republican women held a fiery press conference today to denounce what they consider to be sexist smears from the Obama campaign and the media against Gov. Sarah Palin.
“We want to call attention to the outrageous smear campaign against Sarah Palin,” said former Mass. Gov. Jane Swift. “With her years of executive experience and legislative accomplishments, she is more experienced than Sen. Barack Obama” to become president.
“Gov. Palin’s experience is in running a state,” added Swift. “Barack Obama’s experience, as he himself has said, is in running a campaign.”
Joining Swift in her denunciations were senior McCain aide Carly Fiorina, Rep. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, former U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin and Renee Amore, Deputy Chairman of the Pennsylvania Republican Party.
“The Republican Party will not stand by while Gov. Palin is subjected to sexist attacks,” said Fiorina, who explained that all the women on stage had experienced sexism in their careers. “I don’t believe American women are going to stand for it either.”
Palin critics have questioned whether it’s wise for the Alaskan governor to seek the vice presidency while she has a baby with Down Syndrome. A charge to which Marin said: “No one has asked Barack Obama [this question] when he has two children at home.”
“I am outraged; I am insulted; I am offended,” said Marin. Directing her anger toward liberal bloggers who have questioned the maternity of Palin’s youngest daughter, Trig, Marin said, “Shame on them.”
Blackburn answered critics who have also pointed to Palin’s 20 months as governor as less experience than Obama’s years in the Senate.
“It is quite interesting that Gov. Palin has managed the state of Alaska with 24,000 employees and a $10 billion budget,” said Blackburn. “How many men have done that?”
Amore was more direct. Referring to the media, she said, “You never talk about that Barack Obama hasn’t run anything.”
“These smears are meant to distract from the fact that Gov. Palin has more experience than Barack Obama,” said Amore. She then issued a humorous, if also serious, challenge: “Let me use some ebonics … We will get with you, if you keep messing with us.”
There wasn’t a link to the post, but here is a VIDEO you can watch.
And then, frequent commenter Paul Villareal has several YouTube videos up, particularly this one in which Newt Gingrich (I know – I am as surprised by this as anybody) lays into a MSNBC reporter on the differences between Governor Palin and Barack Obama (again, she’s second on the ticket, Obama is first – and HE STILL COMES UP SHORT IN THE COMPARISON!!!). Anyway, take a look The end is a hoot:
And this one, also from Paul:
And get this – John McCain, in the middle of a campaign season, pulled out of an HOUR of free air time on Larry King Live because of the way Campbell Brown treated Tucker Bounds on the issue of whether Governor Palin had ever called in the National Guard or not (thanks, LindaA1!). He would not dignify the network after the way demeaning and belittling way one of their main anchors treated his running mate. Even more, check out this story by Stephen Hayes on McCain’s response to this sexist treatment:
Feisty McCain Tells Staff He’s Indignant Over Palin Treatment
John McCain spoke to staff and advisers working in the campaign War Room at the Minneapolis Hilton this afternoon, and forcefully vowed to fight hard to defend his running mate Sarah Palin against attacks from the media and Democrats. “They’re not doing right by our vice president, they’re not doing right by the American people,” McCain said, according to a source in the room. “We’re gonna fight back, we’re gonna get ‘em.” McCain pounded his fist into his hand as he spoke, the source said, and made clear that he would be aggressively challenging those who are attacking Palin.
McCain advisers expect that he will address the issue in his speech to the convention tomorrow evening. McCain’s campaign has increasingly turned its sights on the media in recent days as journalists continue to probe Palin’s personal life and discuss her performance as a mother. McCain is personally offended by the controversy.
Earlier Wednesday, campaign chief Steve Schmidt blasted the media for its treatment of Palin. “Governor Sarah Palin is an exceptional governor with a record of accomplishment that exceeds, by far, the governing accomplishments of Senator Obama,” Schmidt said it a statement. He added: “This vetting controversy is a faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee for Vice President of the United States who has never been a part of the old boys’ network that has come to dominate the news establishment in this country.”
And late Wednesday afternoon, Schmidt made a second statement threatening legal action against the National Enquirer for its report that Palin had an extramarital affair.
“The smearing of the Palin family must end. The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Governor Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie. Governor Palin is the most popular governor in the country. She is a proven leader, an accomplished executive, a champion for ethics reform, and a fighter against corruption. The efforts of the media and tabloids to destroy this fine and accomplished public servant are a disgrace. The American people will reject it.
Senator McCain and Governor Palin look forward to discussing the issues that Americans care about, fixing broken government, creating jobs, making our country energy independent and securing the peace for the next generation by bringing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to a victorious end. Legal action will be considered with regard to this disgraceful smear.”
Congressman Ed Royce, a conservative from California, says that the attacks on Palin will backfire. “Senator McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin not only energized and excited the Republican base, it sent the liberal media into making-panic-induced personal attacks on her family that are beyond the pale. The more they attack, the more they reinforce her image as an outsider and a reformer and the more attractive she is to independent voters who rightfully mistrust the mainstream media.”
Posted by Stephen F. Hayes on September 3, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
Wow. Can you imagine how different this past year would have been had the DEMOCRATS taken this kind of approach to Senator Clinton? Standing up for her against the likes of Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson, Mike Barnacle, KEITH OLBERMANN (special mention there for ya, Keith), Tim Russert, and all of those other “journalists”? Stood up and said this was unacceptable – that it was unacceptable to treat ANY woman like that, much less the Former First Lady of Arkansas, the Former First Lady of the United States, and a two-term siting US Senator? It would have been a whole new ballgame, I think. Hell, a whole new ballgame and ballpark (ok, ok, so I’m watching the Yankees already!).
I know some people are very cynical about WHY the Republicans are doing this, but the act remains: they are standing up against sexist attacks, and that counts for something. Not just John McCain, but influential Republicans are speaking out against this sexist treatment. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but it sure would be nice if the Democrats had acted more like the Republicans on this issue with Senator Clinton, and STOPPED acting in such a sexist manner toward Governor Palin. It is not too late, either – and frankly, it is way, way past enough being enough. Stop the hate against women, Democrats. Seriously.
Here’s an article from a working mother of 12 pointing out how women can and do “do it all” much of the time.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0905/p09s01-coop.html
Amy, thanks for the postings of my videos. I actually came in here to post something else, but I wanted to say “Thanks.” The Gingrich clip is just textbook of how you blow up biased fools like MSNBC. Great work, Newt.
The second spot is from the McCain campaign.
Anyways, I came here to relay that Palin has rattled Obama, personally. There were a number of reports yesterday that said that Obama ‘brushed off’ Palin’s criticisms, giving the impression that the lecturer was above it all.
Not the case, says the SF Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=29880
Obama, spoiled baby, apparently can’t handle being taken to task by a ’sweetie.’
Poor baby.
I hope someone here at NQ can post about that article. It tells the true story of just how sensitive and pathetic Obama is. If he’s not being fawned over, he gets all hussy.
Waaahmbulance!
Get used to it, Barry. It’s going to get a lot worse.
And there’s yet more — Palin-mania sweeping the nation as companies and entrepreneurs scramble to keep up with the demand for all items Sarah:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/05/earlyshow/main4418621.shtml
In : Sarah
Out: Barack
Spread the word, guys.
As if anyone needed more proof of Palin’s popularity, her favorable number is now higher than both McCain’s and Obama’s:
Palin – 58%
McCain – 57%
Obama – 57%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Everything is swinging now, and Mr. Fragile Ego is on the way out.
Woo-hoo!
Obama, spoiled baby, apparently can’t handle being taken to task by a ’sweetie.’
LOL. Man, I have never seen a bigger wuss than Obarry. It’s so pathetic.
He is a total wus.
BREAKING: McCain poised to beat Obama in total views for each candidate’s nomination acceptance speeches:
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/09/mccain_tv_ratings_beat_obama_i.php
This is AWESOME news. If this many people watched McCain, look for even more of a jump in the polls for The American Hero.
Yes!
I had friends from around the world who watched McCain’s speech and wrote me in a panic within 20 minutes of the balloon drop. HA!
“What happened to you? Are you serious?!!”
The race is changed now. McCain has not lost his instincts as a fighter pilot. He is sharp, decent, is running a good clean campaign and he is winning now.
Btw, I love the Police sng at the end of your video. “The bed’s too big without you!” Newt Gingrich reminds me of my father-in-law who is the representative for the Niagara region of Ontario. He ripped Obama a new one in that interview! LOL.
Hope Floats:
You’re right on re Newt!
Great post. Thanks!
Come November Sweetie’s ego will be as pathetically anorexic as his resume!
Yeah, and the big bad Obama can’t even fight his own battles. He has to send out a real (wo)MAN, Hillary, to attack Palin. Geez, if he has to send out Hillary to fight his battles why not just make her the nominee!!!!!
Obama needs to carry a bottle, rattle, and pacifier with him on the campaign trail.
Paul — the fact that Obama is running against the VP Nominee rather than the Presidential Nominee says it all. He hasn’t the stature to run against McCain so he runs against the woman nominee for VP.
Rev. Amy asks where were the Republicans when Hillary was getting hit daily? As a Democrat I thought this isn’t against women its another attack on the Clintons.It didn’t seem like an attack against women until I read that the party calculated they would give Obama the nomination no matter how many Delegates Hillary had because if they didn’t there would be riots while if Hillary went down women would go home quietly as women do. Then I was furious. I called the DNC who could care less they had made up their minds–it was more historic to give the nomination to an AA rather than a woman and nothing could move them.
The Democratic Party has been taken over by Obama and his thugs. He is so full of hate for women, so spoiled and flush with money that he thinks he can do whatever he likes with the party he now controls. But the Republicans –perhaps because of Hillary (who was going to pick up a lot of Republican women voters) said no way. Republicans unlike Democrats don’t have to yell UNITY and pretend they are unified. They circle the wagons and fight for their Nominee.
One of the reasons I believe we Dems are so furious with our party is the hypocrisy they have displayed. The party of Civil Rights, Human Rights and Women’s right is a sham. Democrats talk the talk but Republicans walk the walk.
Great post. Yes, I am furious that the Democrats have allowed race-baiting and sexism to decide the nomination. This isn’t the Democractic Party that I used to know.
Republicans unlike Democrats don’t have to yell UNITY and pretend they are unified. They circle the wagons and fight for their Nominee.
- Excellent point.
The GOP men and women are fighting for Palin.
I hate what the Democratic party has become, and I know people have been saying this over & over, but it’s time to clean house.
From top to bottom. I’m voting straight Republican for the first time. I will be my distinct pleasure to demonstrate my displeasure at the bobble-heads who have ruined the party.
S. Hall said:
“The Democratic Party has been taken over by Obama and his thugs. He is so full of hate for women, so spoiled and flush with money that he thinks he can do whatever he likes with the party he now controls. But the Republicans –perhaps because of Hillary (who was going to pick up a lot of Republican women voters) said no way”
You are mostly right–the anti-sexism on the part of the Republicans IS because of Hillary. She is probably feeling great about what is happening. She paved the way and in 2012 she will be campaigning on a brand new highway.
Marjorie
Amen!
S Hall
Yes indeed:
“The Domc-rats talk the talk but the Republicans walk the walk. The hypocrisy and rampant misogyny of the exDemocratic party was blatant in their surrogates in the media. Obama’s sexist statements aimed at Hllary like “Periodically, Hillary feels doown low and starts launching attacks against me..” and his despicable youtube vid “Obama gives Hillary the Finger”….shame on this anorexic resume whose lack of executive experience is scary, and who couldn’t handle a corner grocery store without Hillary running the business, let alone a country!
My favorite part of the Newt video was at the end when the Reporter made no attempt to reply and said “And now back to you Keith”..don’t you know the video had to end there because Keith had crapped himself when Gingrich called Barack out!
Hey, Paul -
You’re welcome – you deserve the shout out. You consistently have great comments and videos!
Thanks for the article, too. I had heard abt it.
What I love is that Obama and his minions don’t see the sheer hypocrisy in his attacking her for being a MAYOR!!! Not for nothing, as I have mentioned before, but he wasn’t even that GOOD of a community organizer! I doubt Palin was attacking community organizers per se, but Obama in particular.
And since I have been asked abt this at my site, I have great respect for community organizers. They care abt the work they do and the people whom they serve. I have not seen that from Obama at ALL. Just to be clear.
Paul, did you catch Pat Buchanan arguing with Chris Matthews about the sexism in the media? Matthews was mocking him for standing up for Hillary and now Palin as if it were phony or a sign of feeble mindedness or some such thing. Buchanan actually said the “m” in MSNBC shouldn’t stand for MISOGYNY!! It was great! If anyone has a link I would appreciate it. I’d try to find it myself but I need to mow before the rain from Hannah gets here.
And then someone here would call him a Repug.
I found the link to the Chris Matthews/Pat Buchanan dustup over sexism. While Chris was correct that the right wing went after Hillary for years with sexist comments and are now being hypocritical by complaining about sexism, that is no surprise. Unlike the Democratic Party Republicans always fight for their candidates. And Buchanan defended Hillary against the media’s sexist treatment of her in New Hampshire last January. (See Anglachel’s post about why Dems lose.) Buchanan was great when he said that the M in MSNBC should not stand for MISOGYNY!! I had already started calling NBC the Neanderthal Broadcasting Company. So now I can put Misogynist first. Any suggestiong for the “S”? Slimy? Smarmy? Sleazy? Supercilious? Here’s the clip:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/chris-matthews-vs-pat-buc_n_124047.html?page=3
MSNBC is paying the price for their unprofessional behavior. They came in dead last in the ratings for the Democratic Convention! You would think with all the Obama sycophants at that network they would have done much better.
http://tvdecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/hillarys-tally-18-million-supporters-26-million-viewers/
Hi.. I like to offer my opinion this.
I don’t think Chris Matthews was right at all.
For one, he never let Pat get a word in edgewise (on purpose), Chris didn’t want to hear the argument.
For two, the issue between Republicans and Hillary is not equivalent here. The issue here is sexism by the Press.
I think it’s totally unacceptable for a media organization to take it upon itself to “revenge” on behalf of another party.
For three, what’s going on here is massive election fraud with some conspiracy between the media and Obama.
And finally i like to finish with… I’m so tired of people who when challenged by an argument respond with “Well. So and so did it too”.. That’s a nice way to avoid the question.
Chris looked almost deranged to me.
VinceP
I enjoyed reading your post and I agree. MSNBC have lost me, never will I tune into that network again. Both Matthews and Ohlberman (?) need to find a real job.
Great article here Paul, thanks!
Throughoout the primaries Hillary was attacked viciously by the misogynist media frat-boys, Matthews, Olbermann, Barnicle, McCafferty et al.
While the disgusting sexism was on display 24/7 Mr. Obama was busy, with the assistance of his own Party, the ex-Democ-rats Party,participating himself to this infamous woman-lynching:
“Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” —
with his JayZ rapper-wannabe act dusting her off his shoulders and “scraping off” Hillary as if she were excrement!
The Repulicans should be thankful to HIllary who suffered unspeakable sexism to permit the entrance of Gov. Palin. Her party should be congratulated for taking a stand against sexism in the media.
As for Sweetie Barack, his obamyopia will be cured come November!
Karma’s a bitch, sweetie, and it’s going to bite your ego where it really counts–in the Voting Booth!
Thanks for the shout-out NQ! The sexism has got to end now. “Stop the hate!”
Great article link, MamaTX – thanks!! It really says it all…
Baracak gave his Race Speech but no Speech was given by an official Democrat over the HISTORIC GENDER break-through of this campaign.
When will someone please give a Speech on this Historic breakthrough for WOMEN?
Or is it, again,
“Go to the end of the Bus, ladies”!!!
If any, this time it’s the STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS BUS–and the exDemocratic Party will be fuming under it!
The democrats seem to deal with sexism by … using it and encouraging it. Do they still believe that women will vote for Obama because “they have nowhere else to go”? That is a typical “spouse-abuser” mindset.
Exactly right. That’s my impression of the Democrats this year. They’ve beaten up on women and then they tell us, “get over it,” remember Roe v. Wade, What about Iraq, et al. I don’t care about any of that anymore, I’m not going to reinforce corrupt sexism and voter fraud. I’m voting Republican and I’m considering voting a straight Republican ticket because I didn’t see one Democratic man stand up for Hillary anywhere on the political spectrum.
What I really think is that we’ll have a Democratic Congress, we need a Republican president to balance the government. And these Democratic scaremongers can just stop threatening that McCain is old and he might leave Sarah Palin in the WH. I’m starting to think it would be a wonderful thing if she was in the WH.
It’s not just this year, tek. It is all the time. Did the Dems stand up against attacks on Bill Clinton when he ran for President? No. They let it slide. Some even joined in the chorus. Did they push back when the Clintons were accused of murdring Foster? No. They remained mum. Did they suuport Clinton during Whitewater? No. Did they sypport Hilalry as First Lady when she was called a lesbo on TV and in the tabloids? No again.
This is a pattern. The Democrats do not support nor stand ip for their candidates. They do not make it clear that they will not allow this as the Repubs did yesterday in Carlu Fiornia’s press conference and as Newr brillantly did on MSNBC. THEY FIGHT BACK.
This is clearly a personality disorder the Dems have. Anglachel has a good post about this with links to other sites over at his blog this morning. A must read.
Since when is Anglachel a MAN? Or are you implying only a male can be as intelligent as Anglachel is? It’s our understanding that Anglachel is a female, a polical scientist like her hubby, imagine that. And you guys wonder what the “problem is”. Sheesh!
Other than this craw, your points are excellent. I’ve always been a fighter like Hillary and I don’t back down. I’m not backing down nor standing down on the gross misogyny and sexism. I warned all the idiots on several blogs since last fall the problem and STORY this year would be sexism NOT racism. It has certainly come to pass now hasn’t it.
Shez,
Keep on talking!…It is *sexism* that has has been exposed as the most virulant strain of social disease in this country–and every other–and not racism!
Proof: Imus made some despicable racist (and sexist) remarks on the Rutgers girls’ team. Obama wrote a letter asking for his dismissal. NBC fired the creep. He wrote no letter to NBC complaining about Hillary’s on-air holocaust! No letter to CNN complaining about Hillary’s 24/7 vilification and obviously biased commentary. Ironically, itt took SNL’s skit with Tina Fey to get some redemption…
Question: Why is Chris Matthews, Olbermann and McCafferty stilll holding on to their jobs and Chris had his mug on the front page of TIME! Are there rewards for Sexism?
I viewed CNN’s belated “Media and Sexism” with Kurtz and Carol Costello. Incredible. Also, Women’s Media Centre’s
“SEXISM SELLS, BUT WE’RE NOT BUYING it”…
Palin’s entering the race may be a game-changer. At least Repuplicans believe in sticking up for their family.And, surprisingly, Repulicans like McCain showed insight and respect for Hillary!
Palin may deserve the opportunity–now that she learned how wrong she was in saying HIllary’s complaints about sexism were not warranted–to make history in November!
Bill Clinton stood up for her. But then according to the Obama camp, he’s not a real Democrat. Thank God I’m not, either.
I wish that Hillary would tell Obama to F**k off.I’m bummed that she will stump for the abuser to slay another woman.
BettsAZ:
“I wish that Hillary would tell Obama to F**k off.I’m bummed that she will stump for the abuser to slay another woman.”
If Hillary starts now, it will be “they done that-now what??” But by 2012, if things are quieted down, it will be a new beginning of an old fight.
Marjorie
Hillary’s campaign conveyed to the press that Hillary will be “speaking on issues and policy and not personal matters affecting Govn. Palin”
Don you trust the fact that HIllary was, is and will be always nothing but a CLASS ACT!
Without Hillary’s pioneering run and her 18 million cracks on the damn DNC ceiling (to be shattered November 4) Gov. Palin would not be subjected to the same diminishing, despicable misogyny that HRC was! And Sarah wouldn’t become the next V-P of the U.S. of A, either!
Karma’s a bitch and it’ll bite Barry’s big ego in the ears–in the Voting Booth!
Vote McCain Palin and then hold them to their word. I think they will be the most accountable pair in office since John Adams.
They cannot take out the corruption if we fail to keep our eyes on the ball.
But I really believe they will listen to the voters.
Let us reach out to Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman and make it a powerful quartet in DC. People that fight for us. I have Hope.
jwrjr — this is what the Democrats keep saying. Hillary’s voters will come back because they have no where else to go. This shows the kind of the civil service mentality which permeates the mindset of the Democratic Party. Its takes skill to lose every election–you have to go along to get along, collect your lobby checks and by all means don’t stand up for anything controversial.
They had a problem even letting Bill Clinton speak at the Democratic Convention–the most successful president of the last 50 years and the only Democratic President to serve two terms and this party of petty bureaucrats had a problem with him representing the party.
With Obama Dems you pissed in your chips.
To vote for Obama is to condone what has happened to the democratic party. I won’t go along. I am going to stand up and fight the democratic party and the only way I know how is to vote republican. The democrats think they have this all planned and Obama is going to succeed. Man plans and God laughs.
I am not religious but I like that sentence. Man plans and the Gods laugh.
The democrats are going down.
That was insane wasn’t it?
The one Dem President to win the White House back to back had to fight to speak at the DNC convention?
The headlines were “Obama ALLOWS the Clintons to speak at convention.”
what-kind-of-sh!t-is-that??
I can’t wait until those Obama thugs are thrown out.
Crazy, eh? The Obamabots call everyone who isn’t for Obama Republicans, and yet the Democratic party itself is acting more like the Republican party every day. Ironic.
s hall
Yes. The Democrats even had a problem with Pres. Clinton appearing at the Convention and the woman who was the Pioneer of the most crucial issue facing the national that is now on the same list as the lowest of developing countries in infant mortality and the woman who dared defy the Chinese officials in her Bejing ‘95 speech!
The only woman in high office who’s fought 4 decades for the issues that matter to children and women–the backbone of the nation! Sexist attacks on Hillary, race-baiting attacks on Bill and now the cruel diminishing of Palin will cost the exDemoc.rats this election.
OPED’s Rob Kall had the despicable nerve to write about “The Smoking Womb” and the “Downs baby mama” and disgusting juvenile articles on female anatomy unprintable! It’s Sarah’s turn now to suffer the ignominious misogyny inherent in the Obama thuggery’s platform for women!
Immigration to Canada (where Universal Healthcare was instituted in l965) is the only way to go if Obamarama gets in! At least, the major cause for bankrtupcies in Canada is certainly not “medical bills”!
And Palin already said in her wonderful speech that when she gets to the White House (as she will with the help of empathetic women who won’t take the sexist crap any more!), families will find in her a “strong advocate for children”….
Let’s hope so! Anything is better than the Obama disrespect for women and their constant diminishmment as painfully as we’ve witnesssed it for the last year and a half–and still thriving…ENOUGH!
I left the democratic party this year after voting democratic for 48 years.
I do not reward bad behavior.
Not one elected democratic official had the guts to stand up and say” this is wrong” about the garbage thrown at Sen Clinton and Gov Palin.
If they did not standup then what makes anyone think they would standup for you?
This faux new democratic party is made up of candy assed wimps who are afraid of qualified women.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Face it…the DNC , Steinem, and the NYT look like Jesse Jackson threatening to cut BO’s nuts off.
The TIMES have changed people…women can be whatever they want,
the American people know this.
it is the DINOSAURS of past issues that still want to wrap themselves in righteousness…NARAL supported OBAMA, Not Hillary, REMEMBER?
Reason . …they miss the power they used to have..get over yourself.
Thank you ford, for reminding us why we will never support 0bama.
I’m copying & pasting all of the remarks to replay them to all of you Botheads in Nov once B0 loses.
Uppity said it best:
“Karma… It’s what’s for dinner.”
And although it’s a bit early:
Happy Thanksgiving!
Karma… It’s what’s for dinner
or Instant Karma nothing like a good breakfast.
‘NARAL supported OBAMA, Not Hillary’
So, women organization supports the male candidate instead of the woman candidate, but, in order to win back the women vote, the deadenders camp sends out the woman candidate that was not supported by the women organization to win back the women vote.
Go f* yourselves, NARAL. Go F* yourself deadender camp.
HAHA. Word.
If misogyny is still running rampant, what makes the Obots think electing a half black man will end racism? The only thing Obama has done for racism is revitalize it and give the REAL racists ammo to recruit more racists. So Obamabots not only resurrected misogyny, but they also revitalized racism. Wow, good job dumb asses! Thank you so much for setting civil rights back 40 years! Now go to hell.
The Democrats accepted as normal hate-filled speech and actions against Clinton. Surprise to them that they are out-of-step with Republicans who say no to this, just as they did to Obama’s use of race. Sad commentary to see that the Democratic Party stands alone as a group condoning and used sexist and racist hate as tools for political discourse.
Matthew — the big mea culpa is coming. Its about a week away when the Democrats make a big statement against mysogny. Too late fools — if you don’t drive the bus you end up under it.
Dean really went to bat for HRC, didn’t he?
And the entire senate.
Gotta respect those guys for standing up for
core democratic values.
Dean says he doesn’t watch cable TV, so didn’t know
about Matthews.
Says a lot for Dean that he stays on top of the media.
No. Dean knew this was happening, but like many men, think “playing dumb” will get them off the hook.
Not this time, buddy! Hillary deserved to be defended and the dems betrayed her, stabbed her in the back.
Frankly, it’s too late for them to just offer some quick apology and let’s just forget it ever happened. No, the democratic leadership had better start making major changes in dealing with sexism.
The first thing they need to do is let Hillary give a speech about sexism, just like they let obama give a speech about racism!
L Wynne — I don’t want Hillary to make a speech about Sexism. The party destroys Hillary and then its up to Hillary to fix the party–NO WAY. I want to see a complete house cleaning of all those who took the party in this direction. Donna Brazile said Palin’s daughter was fair game. She also said the Democratic Base should stay home. She is the one who needs to apologize and then resign. Howard Dean the current chair and all those who decided to give the Party to Obama need to also resign.
However, this will not happen until Obama loses. Success Has 1,000 Fathers — Failure Is An Orphan.
s. hall,
I’m sorry I wasn’t clear…I was only trying to point out just how biased the DNC and the media was regarding racism, as opposed to sexism.
Of course, Hillary will never be allowed to give such a speech, and I’m well aware of what would happen to her if she did.
However, the point should be made of how willing and how well accepted by the press and the public was when obama lectured us about racism.
Ironically, obama has benefited greatly from being part AA and really had no right to give such a speech in the first place.
On the other hand, Hillary has never been given anything, because, as a woman, she had to work for it and then prove herself every day to be worthy of anything she achieved.
If we don’t find an effective way to confront sexism, it will never end. Racism has come this far because men are allowed to express their outrage, such as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Women, on the other hand, are still expected to be nice in the face of horrible treatment and do what Hillary is expected to do by helping the very man who was responsible in large part for the attacks heaped upon her.
K. Wynne,
“Women, on the other hand, are still expected to be nice in the face of horrible treamtent and do what Hillary is expected to do by helping the very man who was responsible in large part for the attacks heaped upon her.”
Great!
…and perhaps a baraccuda may be able to fatally attack the political future of the man responsible for Hillary’s deep wounds and suffering. We can all help in the healing.
“had the Democrats taken this strategy with Hillary Clinton.” There’s the tragedy right there, no? She had the will of the American people behind her and the Democrats tore her down because the old men in that party are so jealous of Bill Clinton. There can be no other plausible reason. I will not vote for that.
I disagree with Republicans on a number of things, but I like Palin and McCain. I think they are truly the people who can transcend partisanship and do what’s right for the country. It has to start somewhere. Obama will only bring corrupt Chicago politics to Washington and sink us further in debt paying billions to the special constituencies who are supporting him, just like Dubya.
There is a reason that over 75% of Democrats in Alaska support Governor Palin. She is the only one in Alaska politics that went after the corruption. She is the only one that has gotten the ball rolling on the natural gas pipeline. She has appointed Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. When has Obama ever gone after the corruption in Chicago politics? When has he ever challenged the Democrats on anything. Most people would agree that both parties are flawed. Both parties have been responsible for bad legislation. He is rated as the most liberal Senator in the US Senate. He picked the third most liberal Senator to be his running mate. There is nothing for moderate Democrats to support on that ticket.
If I had one wish, it would be that woman for the first time would stick together on principle. We are 52% of the population. We have power. Can’t you feel it. Just once, why can’t we stick together and tell the democrats we will not be told who to vote for and that we do not have to accept the candidate that a few idiots at the top of the party want to see as president.
I am sick of not being equal. I am sick of men treating woman like they are big children. Even my own husband sometimes, after 42 years of marriage, sounds like my father. I am sick of it.
Irish 1139
Yes! Women are beginning to realize just how powerful we all are. WE carry a lethal, game-changing weapon:
THE VOTE
Let’s enjoy this right and avenge those who attempt to diminish us–the exDemocratic Party and Obama are woman-haters who treat women like children. Well, come November, Obamarama will learn the truth of Woman Power–The Vote!
“Obama will only bring corrupt Chicago politics to Washington”
That should have sent up an immediate red flag for the media and Democratic party to investigate. Wright, Ayers, Dorhn, Pfleger, etc. would have surfaced long ago and Obama would have been exposed and dropped out a year ago.
The country does not want a president that came up the corrupt Chicago politic system. And Obama moved to Chicago for the purpose of entering politics through that system.
The country does not want a president that came up the corrupt Chicago politic system.
But the DNC and the MSM do, and that should tell you something right there.I really think McCain is fighting for us, and I’m thrilled about Sarah Palin as his running mate.
The only reasons Hillary Clinton is not the democratic nominee and willnot be President in 2008 are because She is a woman and her last name is Clinton. Those are the only reasons and all democrats know it at this point, whether they are accepting or rejecting the nominee. I am very upset with those who are accepting him because they do not have to. Eyes are open now and they are all freaked out knowing the dems willlose, yet again! True Americans should still be calling, emailing and writing to the DNC and showing their disapproval and pulling their money. 30% of Clinton supporters will be voting McCain. I think that is a low estimate. The rest counld not possibly be strong Obama supporters. Of the few I know who are supporting Obama, none of them are strong for Obama. They are only being loyal dems. It is inexcusable to me the people who now realize we will lose this year and that Hillary was more electable. People, get off your butts and take action! Don’t get mad at me for supporting McCain, who I trust. Make the dems give us an electable candidate. It is up to us the people! The democrats have put people who can’t lead in charge and it is time to revoke that privilege. Take our party back. All democrats need to band together. When you have a political party who cannot win the White House in 2008, that party is no party at all. Don’t follow the nonleaders off the cliff!!!!!
Yeah, that woman sure was sexist to that McCain staffer…At least you’re not pretending to be Democrats anymore…
PS. Weird how Obama has been in the spotlight, both good and bad, for 20 months (if you don’t count the fact that he has been in the public eye since he made that speech in 2004) and you say he’s not valid or vetted, yet this person has been in the public spotlight for less than a week and no one has the right to ask anything of her (even if some of it may cross a line)…it is comical how daft you people are
Not daft at all. You are hypocritical. Obama has been around for two years, but he hasn’t released his documents and the media has not investigated him. Your vitriol toward people who have a different opinion shows how small-minded or just inexperienced you are in politics. Why are you on this site anyway? Do you think calling people names will change their minds, or are you Obama people so petty and immature and shallow that you have nothing better to do than pick at people who aren’t like you? Go on now, go on over to Daily Kos where you belong.
Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Thursday, Sep 4, 2008
The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not.
After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation’s leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN.
5 days and she’s already complaining, I’m sure Hillary must really have her back…
Please show us some of the pro-Hillary words you shared with us prior to her withdrawing her name? ….. crickets ….
You.Are.Wasting.Your.Breath.
We were watching. No questions for the AA candidate because they are racist. No punches pulled for the woman candidate cuz we need to see if she can take it like the white boys. Yeah. I’m all over that!
Who can forgot those signs and t-shirts proudly displayed by Obama supporters during the primary, which shouted:
“We didn`t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left us.”
beebop — the media doesn’t question Obama because as Giuliani says — THEY WANT HIM TO WIN.
The media is so overwhelmingly cosseted and so dominated by the Obama campaign, that if anything comes out that would be considered vetting, it is quickly drowned out. Axelrod knows what he’s doing, and the media deserve to be ridiculed for the self-important fools they are. I could care less who Hillary tells me to vote for either. I sent her some money for her debt. I’ll see her in 2010.
As soon as the nutjobs and media give Michelle and her girls pelvic exams and pap smears like they have Sarah and Bristol, then maybe you’ll have a point.
don’t forget DNA tests as well to see if the girls are really Bambi’s or Rev Wrights kids.
joe bob ;
That wasn’t a public spotlight on Obama, that was a self-imposed and MSM re-inforced halo. The media has nationally “noticed” Barack Obama since at least 2004, but the notice has been in the form of adulation, worship, and “tingling”, not “vetting”. A few questions were asked about his choice of church and pastor, but only when the issue could no longer be glossed over.That you believe Obama to have been vetted demonstrates that you have more than a passing familiarity with “daft.”
Well at least you admit you crossed the line. That’s a start. But it’s OKAY for Barky to hit below the belt, right? But ask an honest question of him and you little pishers scream RACISM! It’s not racism, little guy, it’s dirtbaggery. Coke use, nasty behavior, and scuzzbucketry…yup. You backed a real winner there. Bush from the left.
Sorry, i don’t really know how to respond to mental midgets who refer to people as dogs…yep, uh huh, no racism there sparky;)
No, you just like to make fun of people with physical and mental limitations. People of short stature and Down’s Syndrome. And show me in my post where canines were mentioned. Barky as in a carnival announcer, you twit. Man, you obamabits love to project.
joe bob stays away from carnivals, for fear that he will run into his juvie officer there.
With every pathetic word you prove how PALIN SCARES THE HELL OUTTA YOU – and how she especially scares the hell outta barky.
Of course she scares you – you just lost the election to her.
not comedy, troll. Obama has not been vetted…how could he have gotten this far with dual citizenship?
well his wheels are about to come of the wagon. he will be exposed for the liar, thief, and faker that he is.
Palin has done more damage to barky’s story in one day–exposing it as false and fluff–than the media have since 2004.
Soetoro is a foreign national trying to become POTUS. Can’t get any more basic vetting than that.
he is trying to distract us to Palin to avoid scrutiny on himself. Too bad, barky. we women are going to sink your career.
Sarah Palin was fully with in her rights as the Governor to fire the individual who is a the center of this investigation. He implied that he was removed for reasons involving Palin’s former brother in law. THey are investigating. I am curious why the former brother in law is still on the force. Any who…..
The media and others have been blocked from examining the content of the Annenburg papers detailing where millions of dollars went in the community organization where there is little to show for the level of investment.
Tony Rezko is indicted for money laundering and fraud. I want to know the level of involvement that Obama had in that. But I get stimied every time I ask.
If I simply took a class from Ayers I would have to have a major background investigation in order to keep my security clearance. So far nobdy has bothered to look at his back ground enough o justify giving him the nuclear codes.
joe bob
You must be the troll-comedian Obama’s planning to appear with November 5th to give his Gender Equality speech, eh?
You’re so ineptly referring to everything that’s irrelevant here. Yet you avoid the real issue of Obama’s despicable disrespect and vilification and condoning the HIllary-bashing!
Tell me joe bob BHO-Troll, have you watched this:
“Obama Gives the Finger to Hillary”-BHO’s rapper
please watch Nov.5
“Women Voters Give Obama the Finger”
Karma’s a bitch, ObamaTroll!
Brown was rude and condescending towards a young, lower level McCain staffer. She was so arrogant and completely out of control. She ambushed him and gloated about it. You could see it in her facial expressions that she was on the hunt and had her prey in the cross hairs. She toyed with him shamelessly. This was not journalism. This was a witch hunt. This would never receive a Walter Cronkite integrity award.
And the press just keeps on patting themselves on the back, saying she needs to be vetted. Yes, she does. (And, oh, by the way, while you are ay it…..how about investigating and vetting Obama.!!!!) But Palin’s family and her and her children’s reproductive tracts have no place in this or any election.
Campbell Brown is no Megan Kelly– that’s for sure!!
RE: Campbell Brown
Ex-wife #3 was wrong. There IS someone under 75 in a dress who I wouldn’t jump on!
Pardon, you lost me. What do you mean?
No sexism going on here folks. Just move along.
I thought that was pretty funny.
bert
CAMPBELL BROWN’S A MORON!
She is not a journalist any more than these pathetic little BHO bloggers like Rob KALL’s OPED and their headlines:
“The Smoking Womb” — OPED by Rob Kall
Campbell should get a job with Kall.
Shame on Campbell and CNN’s McCafferty who thought he was ‘insulting’ HIllary by saying:
“Hillary was like a Scolding Mother” waving her finger at Obama when he produced the fraudulent brochures misleading voters about HRC’s health care policy!
Well, CNN can’t be gloating now. Yet another SCOLDING MOTHER is in the limelight. And theirs and their credibitility with the public is quickly fading!
If you are still a Democrat now then you have some serious problems.
That’s right.
After 40 years I’m now ‘Unaffiliated.’
As long as Dean, Pelosi, 0bama and group are leading it, I want no part of it.
At least you’re not pretending to be Democrats anymore…
No sweetie, pretending to be Democrats is what you Oborg do–and badly at that.
Apparently Jesse is hospitalized for some gastrointestinal erruption (read: somebody pooped in his soup).
I hope he’s OKAY. I like Jesse. I actually voted for him a long time ago. Before I heard the hymy town remarks.
StrawberrybitesBarky:
Maybe the idea and visual image of actually dealing with Barky’s balls finally caught-up with Rev. Jackson.
Well, it just caught up with me…eeeeee.
Barky’s balls aren’t available for Jesse and his stilletto. Michelle keeps them chilled in the whine cellar of their Chicago mansion.
I hope you did not eat one of his salads, if you are white.
You all don’t get it.
0bama makes people sick or worse.
eden — everyone who says anything negative about Obama ends up sick or worse — just saying……
I know…what’s up with that…
Sounds like what killed Stanley Ann Dunham. But the majority of illnesses begin in the colon. I’m trying to find something stronger to say about this news than, “Wow. That’s too bad.” Jesse Jackson fought for Civil Rights more than Obama ever has. How about that?
Eden
I do hope and pray Jesse Jackson is well and recuperating fine. I rather admired his amateurish display of surgical skills with respect to Mr. Obama’s least bombastic attributes which, I understand if Jesse had his way, would be hanging by a thread, if at all. Wonder if we can start a Fund to send Jesse to medical school…But it may be waste of money as November 4th may provide a more drastically painful procedure…
The sexism that was also supremely evident in Harry Reid’s e-mail to Dana Bash, shortly after the Wednesday night RNC, was rife with those sexist code words that all women have come to hate.
When Dana asked Harry Reid for a comment on Governor Palin’s speech, she received an e-mail that started with the word: SHRILL
‘Shrill and sarcastic’ was the way Harry Reid chose to begin his comments about Governor Palin’s speech.
I wonder if Harry would have characterized a male’s speech as being ’shrill’? Denigrating women has become the by-word for the Extreme Liberal Left that has taken over the Democratic Party.
It isn`t just Obama that has a problem. The DNC needs to be purged from top to bottom. Destroying Barky and crew will send a strong message to BOTH parties that this WILL NOT be tolerated any longer.
DNC needs to be purged from top to bottom.
Exactly right, HARP. And we begin that process by ensuring that Obama is soundly defeated in November.
As well as his supporters running for public office.
The bloggerers said,
I disagree. I think as I recall that McCain several times during the primaries complained about the way Hillary was being treated by Obama. He just did not specifically ascribed it ’sexism.’ Just that Hillary was right about the facts and that Obama’s defense was mean and demeaning. McCain said many times then that Hillary was his friend. Hillary returned the compliment in kind.
Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Thursday, Sep 4, 2008
The two party conventions showcased vastly different directions for our country. Senator Obama and Senator Biden offered the new ideas and positive change America needs and deserves after eight years of failed Republican leadership. Senator McCain and Governor Palin do not.
After listening to all the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families, provide quality affordable health care for all Americans, guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, restore our nation’s leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces. So, to slightly amend my comments from Denver: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN.
Obama on the middle class in America: “those bitter white people clinging to their guns, and their religion, and their racism. I don’t need them.”
Just their checks.
She is wrong. She must not have listened to McCain’s speech. He said clearly that he will work with Democrats and Independents to bring about the best possible outcome for legislation. So she is wrong.
Obama will diminish her and stump her initiatives by moving them to the left.
Hillary is still sending signals.
Where do you think she got that:
WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN-PALIN?
It sounds way better the way we started it:
NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA!
Folks buy a clue and pay attention. Her statement did not say anything positive or personal about 0bama. It was a statement about core democratic values. And let’s face it, as much as I enjoyed Palin, she is not for the things I am for.
Nothing’s changed. 0bama will have to:
WIN WITHOUT ME!
But I am holding my nose and voting McCain, praying that once elected he’ll return to his maverick days for 4 years and then exit gracefully.
Mimi,
Hillary is still sending signals.
Yes she is. I like to call them “cat whistles.”
Was she wearing Orange?
McCain has a no shit public record of working across lines.
Hillary has to say this stuff so she can remain a DEM in good standing. That way she can run again in 2012 against the wishes of Soros, I think Dean Whitter, Donna Brazile, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will no longer be DEM leaders after screwing up a sure-win year for the DEMS.
Hillary has to continue to be a loyal democrat and not slam Obama in case she has to step in as nominee. Hillary knows that Berg filed the lawsuit. Hillary knows there are any number of skeletons going to get yanked out of the fraud’s closet any day now. She cannot slam Obama and risk losing his supporters if something should happen to him. You never know. She also can’t throw alot of support McCain’s direction for the same reason. This is her job people! Do any of you do things at work that your heart isn’t always in? Yep. Remember this is Hillary’s job and as John McCain said nothing’s inevitable. You just never know. I’m shocked such a liar and a fraud and an idiot has made it this far. He may make it to November 4th, but then again he may not!
I feel the same way.
I know about the Berg lawsuit.
I know about October surprises.
And I know that it’s possible for Hillary to step back in as the nominee.
There could possibly be some sort of loophole and she can UN-suspend the roll call and the delegeates can nominate her if Obama goes down?
sigh…I don’t want to get my hopes up too high though.
Goodbye Hillary. You have crossed the line and drank the Kool-aid. The convention was one thing. But after that you have no business campaigning for bo
And goodbye to you, “Mary Cusack,” you complete and utter ignoramus.
Go back to the Cheeto where you came from. You people are so damned obvious…
Hope Hillary changes her mind, after Bill Oreilly interviews Obama,and brings up Ayers And Rev Wright again next week…
Im sure Hillary Clinton has a soul,and says country before Party,or her name will eventually go down the tubes with Obama’s,if she doesn’t stand up,and protect the USA>IMO
Joey Bobby baby,
We know what Hillary said, and why she said it.
We don’t care.
We are PUMA–and you lot are fucked.
Toddle on now–surely somewhere there’s a circle jerk in need of another jerk.
IF YOU LOVE HILLARY CLINTON, SEND HER SOME MONEY, BUT DON’T WASTE YOUR VOTE ON THE PARTY THAT BEAT HER UP.
joe bob
ObamaTroll, a message for you:
NO WAY, NO HOW, NOBAMA — much more attractive!
Lark and as I recall a number of top Republicans including Gingrich decried what was being done to Hillary by the Party.
It’s what started the Clinton Thaw in conservatives.
We’d be talking to each other and we would be like.. wow did you see what those asses said about her?
Because we know all too well..
On an emotional level we were rooting for Hillary to unleash mockery and sarcasm against Barry.
We loved the “I’m ready. mccain has x years experience. and barack has a speech he gave in 2003″
Then we’d look at each other and say “I cant’ believe i’m saying this but i rather she was the president” Compared to Obama. We didn’t have much hope that McCain was going to win.
Obama sending out Democratic high profile women to try and down play Sarah Palin?
HARRISBURG, Pa. – Barack Obama’s campaign plans to employ high-profile female supporters in an effort to blunt GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s potential to persuade women to vote Republican.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius all were scheduled to campaign for Obama in the coming weeks. Republicans say they hope Palin, who made her national debut with a feisty speech on Wednesday, could put some female voters in play.
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_obama_women
Uh oh…major cognitive dissonance among the PUMAs…Hillary on the stump to counter Palin? Gosh, who to side with, who to side with, can’t…decide…
Hillary is forced to do this the same as McCain was forced to kowtow to Dubya to keep his political career alive. Don’t know anything about politics do you?
Hillary is kowtowing to Obama? Really? I wouldn’t think a strong, independent-minded woman like Hillary needs to kowtow to anyone…but if you say so…
Intentionally being obtuse, are we?
Are you sure that is not just skiron showing a natural talent for being brainless?
For some reason NQ will not allow me to post links to yahoo news. I am not a big fan of posting entire articles in here but seeing as how this has drawn attention, here it is.
By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
Fri Sep 5, 5:29 AM ET
HARRISBURG, Pa. – Barack Obama’s campaign plans to employ high-profile female supporters in an effort to blunt GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s potential to persuade women to vote Republican.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius all were scheduled to campaign for Obama in the coming weeks. Republicans say they hope Palin, who made her national debut with a feisty speech on Wednesday, could put some female voters in play.
“We respect her. She’s a skilled politician, as she proved last night,” Obama strategist David Axelrod told reporters aboard the campaign plane Thursday. “She’s deft at going on the attack.”
But it’s not clear exactly how Obama and his running mate Joe Biden should respond. They keenly remember how women rallied around one-time Democratic front runner Clinton when they perceived she was a victim of sexism. They don’t want to appear with a weak response, either, and certainly they also don’t want to send independent women flocking to the GOP.
The solution, at least in the short term, will be have top-tier female supporters vouch for Obama to largely female audiences and keep the candidate himself away.
Sebelius started on Thursday, linking Palin to the unpopular President Bush.
“She mastered the words written by the Bush speechwriters and delivered them well. But what we didn’t hear was what people talk to me about every day,” Sebelius told reporters.
Clinton, a one-time presidential front runner, was set to arrive Monday in Florida. Obama aides had long planned to have Clinton as a surrogate even before Palin was named.
Clinton’s camp says the message will be honed on her long-standing appeal to kitchen-table issues that helped her win 18 million votes, but not the nomination. There are no plans for Clinton to directly engage Palin, largely because the election is about the president, not vice president.
Obama’s senior advisers say they cannot allow Palin to paint herself as the come-from-nowhere insurgent — a role that once belonged to Obama.
“For someone who makes the point that she’s not from Washington, she looked very much like she’d fit in very well there when you see how she brings these attacks, they all felt very familiar to Americans who are used to this kind of thing from Washington,” Axelrod said.
Obama himself dodged the question about how to treat Palin, only the second woman nominated as a major party’s vice presidential pick and the GOP’s first.
“I think she’s got a compelling story, but I assume that she wants to be treated the same way that guys want to be treated, which means that their records are under scrutiny,” Obama told reporters in York. “I’ve been through this for 19 months. She has been through it — what — four days so far?”
It was slightly more polite than Axelrod: “She tried to attack Senator Obama by saying he had no significant legislative achievements. Maybe that’s what she was told.”
The McCain campaign, keenly aware of the potential of their nontraditional pick, immediately used any criticism of Palin as a sign of sexism.
Notice it says that Hillary Clinton WILL NOT be going after Sarah Palin directly.
Hillary Clinton should not under any circumstances attack Sarah Palin! I’m telling you, this is political suicide for HRC (whom I love.)
Sebelius says Palin needs a man to write the words she says. But of course she does, Gov Sebelius! *rolls eyes*
Obama says “but I assume that she wants to be treated the same way that guys want to be treated”
I say: Stay classy, Obama!
don’t worry Sebilous and napolitano will put
them to sleep – both are horrible speakers
and to sound really shallow -they’re not much
to look at either.
which means that their records are under scrutiny
“thier” ??? Who is he talking about? Not his…
It’s called politics. Sheesh.
Ain’t it the truth.
A lot of people posting here can’t talk about the Botheads being stupid when their comments show a dearth of political savvy.
To think Hillary is supposed to make like Norma Rae and defy the Party is about as hopelessly naive as you can get. As if that’s going to do any good except end her career. This ain’t a Hollywood movie.
And people here are feeding the trolls by posting negative things about Hillary and giving the appearance that we are not in unison in our determination not to support 0bama.
Trust me, you’ll only convert the ‘undecided’ voters to go over to his side by posting things like Hillary drank the Kool-Aid. At least have the good sense to keep such thoughts to yourself.
I don’t need to waste my time bashing Hillary when there’s so much work to be done about 0bama.
You have to wonder about people who lose all sense of reason and not accept that each person has only one vote and like it or not there is a distinct possibility that the big zer0 could be elected. And just like it won’t be her fault if he loses, Hillary doesn’t have the power to make him POTUS. I personally think all 0bama’s proving by having Hillary campaign is remind people that she should be the nominee. So I say let it rip, Hillary. Remind people how stupid the Dems were.
BTW McCain/Palin does have to do something to get elected like appeal to the voters. And he has to mobilize his base. He’s getting a gift from all of us who are voting for him. All it takes is 5%. I think he can get that with no sweat.
Trust that people are ignoring Hillary and quit bashing her. I would think as much as you hate 0bama, you wouldn’t want to give them a weapon like trying to divide and conquer the PUMAs.
Mimi said:
A lot of people posting here can’t talk about the Botheads being stupid when their comments show a dearth of political savvy.
To think Hillary is supposed to make like Norma Rae and defy the Party is about as hopelessly naive as you can get. As if that’s going to do any good except end her career. This ain’t a Hollywood movie.
Bingo, Mimi. This is why I’m convinced that 9/10 of the posters now sobbing that they loved Hillary sooo much but they’ll dump her if she continues to campaign for Obama and the Dems, are in fact card-carrying members of Concern Trolls for Barky.
That plus the fact that most of them also have screennames I don’t remember having seen before. Have you?
Yeah … Governor Kathleen Shebalebitch. Wonder how they like it when it comes back at them?
I don’t care what those other traitor Democratic women do.
I can’t wait for them to lose their jobs.
Hillary is no fool. She’ll turn this into an opportunity to restate her positions.
Plus she’s booked solid from now to election day. She’s helping in local elections. And she’s raising money for down-ticket dems as well.
She’s finessing it.
No worries.
Arabella, I agree. She will “campaign” for Obama the same way she gave her “endorsement” speech at the convention. She went through the motions, gave a tepid endorsement, fulfilled her duties as a good democrat, and satisfied the pricks in Obama’s campaign and the media who wanted an endorsement, yet gave a rousing and beautiful speech about what her priorities are. She may be exiting stage left, but the final act of the play has yet to be written. Stay tuned. To be continued…………..
If she is certain that Obama can’t win (which she stated repeatedly during the primaries) she will be out there stumping for downticket dems to counter the GOP.
You have something in common with Obama, he could not decide either so he voted “present” 130. The next time you come in here just type “present” and leave it at that.
Uh oh…major cognitive dissonance among the PUMAs…
In your dreams, Skiron sweetie, in your dreams.
Hillary has her job to do, we have ours. We’re all very clear on that.
Did you lot really think we wouldn’t notice how suddenly all the PUMA sites were flooded with so-called “PUMAs” who’re threatening to dump Hillary if she continues to campaign for Obama?
Puhleeze…
You lot–like your Ohero–are playing so far above your skill set it’s pathetic. But please, keep it coming. You know us cats just love to play with our food.
Hillary agreed to campaign for Obama before McCain announced his VP pick. PUMA didn’t switch their loyalty to Obama when he appeared with her in NH. They won’t when she campaigns for him against another woman politician. I am happily in the Republican column now, and I am not thinking of Hillary until she announces another presidential run. That’s years away.
DON’T DO IT HILLARY! You will turn off many of the women who still love you and would vote for you again.
If you become a schill for the very person who crucified you in the primaries, you are telling all of us women that it is all right to go back to the person who abused us. You will be telling us that we are good for nothing except to prop up an unacceptable man. DON’T DO IT HILLARY!!!!!!!!
Good analogy
DON’T DO IT HILLARY! You will turn off many of the women who still love you and would vote for you again.
Jeez Louise, here’s another one! LOL!
It’s a valid point. Many women respected Hillary’s personal decision to stay with Bill after their marital problems became a front page issue. It’s impossible to count how many Obama supporters ridiculed that decision as a cynical bargain for political support from a former President.
If Hillary is seen as making a similar agreement with Obama after speaking out against sexism in the primaries, it will kill her career. She has to know this.
Hope Floats said:
It’s a valid point. Many women respected Hillary’s personal decision to stay with Bill after their marital problems became a front page issue. It’s impossible to count how many Obama supporters ridiculed that decision as a cynical bargain for political support from a former President.
Sorry, I couldn’t disagree more. See Mimi’s long post upthread, and her spot-on Norma Jean analogy.
disgusted — I don’t care how many Democratic women Obama lines up behind him he started this firestorm and he will not be able to douse the flames which will engulf the entire Democratic party before they dissipate. Obama will make one of his sermon on the mount speeches about women’s rights cause he just doesn’t get it. He believes women are second class citizens not fit to compete with him. He blames all women for his own Ditzy mom.
You nailed it!
they tried to bring it up remember? and then ppl like Dick Morris got involved and started the whole “what is she going to do when the big boys like Putin Ahmadinejad and others go after her”
it was the republican who turned it into a joke….
I love HRC…. and I wish she hadn’t have had the election stolen from her.. but siding with the ppl who started the sexism over the ones who ignored it and kept going makes no sense to me.
what examples of sexism have there been? have they talked about how her voice screeches and their balls shrivel up? Or that her voice and laugh makes the angels cry? was she mocked and slaughtered for getting teary eyed somewhere?
you are aligning yourself with the party that started the sexism and kept it going, just to prove a point that the other side should have stepped in to quell it?
again, they tried…only to be mocked by the RNC for not being able to handle it.
So true. At first I was thrilled with the pick of Sarah Palin (still am). But then I felt a little bit sad because I think the Democrats have ruined Hillary and now the first woman president will be Palin. She’s so young, I’m not sure Hillary will ever be able to come back and get the spotlight again.
I’m sad everyday realizing that we lost the only chance for turning this country around totally and getting a strong economy back. I was so excited about Hillary’s green manufacturing strategies. Obama wouldn’t even know how to implement that and doesn’t care.
tek — I totally agree. It was a bittersweet moment in time watching Palin because like you I know that she is the future and that Hillary’s moment in the sun is gone forever.
Damn Obama, the DNC and the media for destroying the person who could have made us whole again.
You understimate Hillary if you think she will not be back in the spotlight or is destroyed by Palin’s candidacy. She is not. She has far more resilency than that.She has many paths open to her and she will take them.
Hillary will be back and imagine how sweet it will be in 2012. She will either run against McCain who she can beat; or Palin who she can also beat.
I may be voting for McCain-Palin this year. But that does not mean I would vote for Palin in any other circumstance but this year. My vote is really a vote against Obama far more than a vote for either McCain or Palin.
And if it is Palin and Hillary next time what sweet irony. How will the media sexist pigs behave then? Who wull they bash most? A Hilalry-Palin match up would be poetic justice for the sexist pigs in the media or elsewhere. ‘Tis a match up to be desired by women everywhere.
We really don’t know what will happen over the next four years. But I don’t see Palin as a token woman to tide us over until Hillary is freed of the shackles the Dems have cuffed to her. That is not my view of strong women or feminism. Each candidate is strong in their own right, and I have a lot of respect for both Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton.
s. hall
Hillary’s “moment in the sun” is EVERY DAY we hear about sexism.
Every time we hear that women are making progress.
Every time someone denounces Sexism.
Hillary’s moment is in our hearts. It is not “over”. It never will be.
She’s a Leader who will lead and teach–and her time is always NOW! Oh, ye of little faith! faith!
I watched that Campbell Brown clip…in no way was she “belittling” Palin. She was trying to have Tucker give her one instance of an order she made as the head of the National Guard in Alaska. Not too much to ask.
Skiron,
It was the WAY Campbell Brown did it. When was the last time she was that tough on an 0bama representative?
That’s what the complaint is.
CNN and the rest of the adoring msm is not covering 0bama tough. He and his reps have never had to answer any tough questions or be pinned down. And when abc did so at that debate, they were hounded by Botheads asking for their jobs and threatening to boycott.
If they would just be tough equally, you’d get no squawk from me.
Also, Campbell Brown’s voice annoys the hell out of me. Like chalk on a blackboard.
Campbell Brown was rabid. I saw it. Anyone that couldn’t see that almost demonic look in here eyes wasn’t looking or is complacent.
Campbell Brown was rabid. I saw it. Anyone that couldn’t see that almost demonic look in here eyes wasn’t looking or is complacent.
John McCain turned down free advertising when he turned down an hour on Larry King over what Campbell Brown did.
She has long been embarrassingly in the tank for Obama. SNL lampooned it brilliantly, and they were referring specifically to her. But sometimes her odd obsession with Obama is frightening.
Decency means more to McCain than a free hour of tv time. He did the right thing.
Decency means more to McCain than a free hour of tv time. He did the right thing.
It is not the job of a McCain campaign staffer to elaborate on the job details of the CINC of the National Guard. He explained, however, that she oversees the troop safety of those who are serving in the Middle East. She decides if they’re needed in Alaska, in case of emergency, or if they should be deployed overseas. She checks on them to make sure they are where they need to be. Campbell Brown tried to deliberately misrepresent the facts, implying that the McCaign campaign was trying to take credit for General Petraeus and Centcom field decisions. It was meant to discredit the entire McCain campaign. To make matters worse, she repeatedly spoke for him, over him and interrupted him. It was incredibly unprofessional on her part.
SKIRON:
Obama has NEVER, EVER had to name ONE thing he has ever done. And beside that, Campbell is SHRILL….wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I believe history will show the little boy from Chicago as one of the greatest con men of all time….Just after he is convicted of his crimes against the American people…of which the list is to long to post here………..
I’m anti 0bama and will not be voting for him but:
little boy?
First of all he was raised in Hawaii so if you wanted to reference the term boy, you’d use Hawaii.
He went to Chicago as an adult male and made a home there. He was never a boy in Chicago.
Stuff like that is food for the trolls.
mimi — Obama is an overgrown kid because he never learned that when you are a grown up you don’t always get what you want by throwing a tantrum.
Mimi, I know “boy” is supposed to be off limits when applied to any black man, but please, Obama clearly has the mentality of a spoiled little boy who pouts and throws hissy fits when he’s challenged in any way.
And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce.
Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46%
Anbody seen Kelvin today? How about Two Term Obama?
I didn’t think so.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain’s convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama’s bounce.
Obama now attracts 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48%, McCain 46%
We will have to wait until the middle of next week to see what kind of bump McCain/Palin get from the convention.
I’m predicting +4 pts. for McCain / Palin.
Ras also show Palin more popular than Obama or McCain.
heh
There’s no doubt the Democrats are peeing their pants over Sarah Palin. Taylor Marsh and Jeralyn Merritt are screeching against the woman, they’re so afraid Democratic women will vote for Palin. After listening to Palin speak, I’m covinced that she will be a great VP and would do fine as president. It’s entirely different than hearing Obama lecture us on how only “the youth” and the blacks are good people (his constituents) and the white women and baby boomers “need to be tutored by the youth.” Not really. We can join the Republicans.
They thought we had nowhere else to go. And, now they see that we do have somewhere else to go. And, that will be where we do go in November.
McCain/Palin ‘08
It’s too late now for Obama to call in Hillary Clinton and other female Democrats to save him. That will only REMIND people that he had the chance to choose Sen. Clinton as his running mate, but refused to do it!
It will only reinforce the question in voter’s minds:
WHY DIDN’T OBAMA PICK HILLARY AS HIS VP?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
It says that Michelle hated Hillary.
Nobama can’t think for himself, he is a sociopath with women issues.
Both Democrats and Republicans should beware!
There is no such thing as not having a place to go.
If we do nothing else this election, we need to teach them both a lesson about being an American citizen with one vote.
They should know better than anyone else, this is a democracy, the primary feature of which is choice.
I was voting McCain before Palin. She only made it more palatable.
No one gets between me and my one vote! No one tells me to “Get over it.” “Stay home.” They don’t get to kick me to the curb. I do the kicking. So Democratic Party, consider yourselves kicked to the curb this 2008 Election.
And Palin figured very little in this for me.
mimi — this is what happens when you take the voters for granted. 19.5 Million women watched Palin more than double who watched Obama. Obama is no longer the flavor of the month, Palin is and she will take women’s votes from the Democrats–and its killing BO. Maybe this over grown long drink of water should stop throwing away women voters — we make up more of the vote than men.
The real question is ” why didn”t Senator Clinton have the chance to pick backtrack as her vp.
The answer to that question is the faux new democratic party is corrupt and stupid.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
bmc,
WHY DIDN’T OBAMA PICK HILLARY AS HIS VP?
We didn’t want him to pick HRC as his VP. We wanted her to pick him as her VP, since she won the nomination fair and square, only to have it stolen from her by the
DNCChicago Machine.As a matter of fact, I’m delighted that he picked Joe Biden. I have nothing against Joe personally, mind you, except for a couple of minor quibbles about the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas thing and the bankruptcy bill, but (speaking of bankruptcy) Biden as VP just shows how empty BO’s hopey-changey rhetoric is.
And McCain’s choice of Palin is a master stroke. I’m still stunned at the brilliance of that move.
Finally, and in case you’re wondering, I’m still a registered Democrat, as I have been for the last 44 years–well, except for the two years I switched to Green to support a couple of local candidates–but I’m now a registered PUMA as well.
As far as I’m concerned, us PUMAs are the true Democrats.
I feel sorry for Obama supporters who really didn’t pay attention to what went on in the primaries. My boyfriend is one. He just thinks it was close and in the end and fairly (when I explain otherwise he says it sounds like sour grapes) Hillary came up short. He thinks it is too bad, but that is how it went. That is how the system works. I will tell you that he really thought Barack would pick Hillary as VP because if you buy the lie, Obama is a uniter, smart and wants to be for the people, right? If any of that were true, he would have picked Hillary. He didn’t, which to all of us here, we know why. If you don’t have the whole picture, that comes off as odd. I know my boyfriend recently told me that I was right. Hillary was the more electable. He’ll still vote for Obama, but he also seems to realize the dems will lose once again. He doesn’t believe Obama is corrupt, as much as I’ve tried to tell him, but he does see the writing on the wall and I know he is having a hard time understanding why Obama would not pick Hillary and pick up as many of those 18,000,000 votes as he could. That decision really makes no sense no matter what part of the democratic category you fall into!
I agree on the piss party. The louder and more shrill the DNC types get the more concerned they are. And they are crying now. ROTFLMAO
How many times in the last 3 days have you heard Obama and the nurse ad about how evil McCain is going to take away Roe v. Wade. I am counting 15 just in the 90 minutes it takes me each day to take my husband to work & from work.
My ovaries are not in play this election cycle. Country first.
Obama camp denies he knows al-Mansour or had a relationship with Sutton.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_camp_denies_Sutton_story.html
Let’s see if this develops further, since Politico’s Ben Smith has some calls out.
They’re lying!
They’re betting that al-Mansour will keep his mouth shut and he will. That Percy Sutton is old and ailing and can’t say anything. And wouldn’t anyway because he’s part of the AA political NY elite.
That there’s no way to see any record of 0bama receiving a letter of recommendation or whatever from this man.
Proof has to be found.
They took my post down at Politico asking about the connection. I wonder why? Posted it on Roger Simons blog asking him to vet Barry.
The funniest thing is they keep criticizing Palin for having conservative views. Someone needs to tell them: Sarah Palin is a REPUBLICAN! So much for TM and TL’s political analysis abilities!
This is another reason I refuse to support Democrats this election. NO one in the party aside from Hillary supporters and Geraldine Ferraro stood up for Hillary. The MSM didn’t either. CNN and MSNBC are blocked on my TV so I won’t even be tempted to watch them.
Women need to stand up against all women being attacked and I so appreciate guys like Paul here at NQ and Larry Johnson when they stand up for the women. I wish more good men would speak up also.
Obama has become so BORING and DULL and all he is is rhetoric about NOTHING I find of value. NOTHING! The Democratic Party FAILED miserably and have no shame.
I stand for Choice and I support Sarah Palin.
The Democrats committed the biggest blunder I have ever seen by backing Obama early on. Kennedy was the first big name to do it and others followed and tried to persuade Clinton to drop out. Had they endorsed Clinton instead she would have beaten Obama especially after Wright and the rest of Obama’s rubbish surfaced.
The Democrats also have a mechanism to avoid the nomination of a flawed candidate with the superdelegate system. They refused to allow this system to play out. I believe they caved into Sharpton who threatened demonstrations if he did not get his way.
Yeah, but I also remember early dialog of “no more dynasties”, and then comparing Obama to JFK… and no one seemed to notice the hypocrisy of those two positions.
There was more going on with in our party than we know about. I can guarantee you this, promoting Obama was all about selfish self-interests for many of the Dem leadership.
The “Party of the People” is no more.
With both Mac and Palin having actual reform to point to in their resumes and their reform message, I think Obama can’t win once people realize how he was propped up by corrupt self-serving politicians. Look at how they handled the roll call vote! Shame on the DNC.
The Rasmussen Reports also said this:
“Both Obama and McCain are now viewed favorably by 57% of the nation’s voters (see trends). However, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is viewed favorably by 58%–a point more than either Presidential hopeful. Forty percent (40%) have a Very Favorable opinion of her.”
Very interesting. It also said this:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
And these numbers do not reflect McCain’s speech and 2/3’s of the interviews were done before Palin spoke.
And this is especially neat:
The polls are getting more and more suspicious. Every time Obama drops in them he ends up tied with McCain. It reminds me of how Obama loves to copy and paste his positions from Hillary and now McCain, so wouldn’t it be funny if his poll numbers are merely a copy and paste of McCain’s? So Obama may very well be lower than McCain, but in order to not appear racist, the polls give him a generous boost to tie him with McCain. So many ties, so many lies.
Check this out
BIG DILEMMA: OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Fri Sep 05 2008 08:55:46 ET
Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America — but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!
Oprah’s staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
“Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on,” an insider explains. “Oprah’s website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama.”
One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!
It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin’s historic convention speech.
Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama’s campaign, refused requests for comment.
Developing…
Oh isn’t that just precious. In the past Ophra has been non-partisian and had all candidates and their mates on her program. So now she hesitates with Palin becasue she is conflicted.
Well by my calculation O+O=zero.
Her ratings will fall even further now.
People should boycott Winfrey due to her supporting Obama and let her ratings fall. She needs to be punished.
I AM SOOO VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT THE LAST TIME
I WATCHED OPRAH WAS WHEN SHE WAS READING NEWS
ON A BALTIMORE NEWS STATION.
EONS AND EONS AGO…….
You mean the very same Clarence Thomas that… wait for it…
Joe Biden personally escorted into the Supreme Court while belittling Anita Hill and laughing at the very suggestion sexual harassment?
That Clarence Thomas?
Oprah, this is your Sista Souljah moment. You burned your audience of mostly women when you played race against gender. Had you been fair and had both candidates on your show, women might have been more understanding of you going on the campaign trail with Obama in the southern states and holding the lavish fundraiser dinners in Santa Barbara, CA. You turned your back on women to promote Obama. Will you make the same mistake twice?
I’m so glad that Oprah is feeling the heat.
Anyone with a brain could see that Obama was a Titanic moment waiting to happen, and she supported that lowlife thug.
I stopped watching her show when she did that, and apparently so did a lot of other viewers, which is why her ratings have fallen.
I think someone posted the story about the anti-Obama and political scrubbing on her website.
She talks all this talk about supporting women around the world, seeking to put women into powerful positions, and then she turns around and endorses Barack Obama, over Hillary Clinton, the more qualified candidate, now she doesn’t want Palin on her show becuase she is anti-Obama?
ugh.
Wow!
Obama has turned radical right-wing Republicans
into
feminists!
Wow!
Wow is right – Obama has turned 30 year life-long democrats into independents!
Wow!
that just confirms his miraculous powers.
Impressive, that.
Obama has turned my family of 5 voters (2D,2R,1I)into the McCain/Palin column – and I was a Hillraiser, too.
It must feel good to dust Obama off.
Well, whaddya know? Obama did bring a “Change We Can Believe In!”
;o}
i’ve said this before… When obama said he was a Uniter… he didn’t actually specify who he was uniting…
turns out he has united just about everyone against himself…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
He united misogyny and racism.
Change I can believe in.
Obama is responsible for reviving the Republican party and that was difficult to do this year. What will he do to top that? Walk on water?
He’s revived the Womens Movement
Rasmussen was just now on Fox News — he said it is important to note that, when asked about experience to be Commander in Chief/President, Obama gets 48% while Governor Palin gets 44%!!!
That is huge!!!
woops, Biden under the bus…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Do you think Biden got the VP thing in writing like Gulianni suggested? LOL!
I would not allow Obama to be CiC of G.I. Joe.
lol
Can I use that line?
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Today’s democratic party is no more than a front for another political ideology, a party that is not entirely American. A party that condones racial discord to achieve it’s goal. A party that condones sexism to defeat competition. A party that invites nationalism instead of democracy. That is just some of the differences that seperates the democratic party from the republican party. Even though I don’t think much of the republican party I will vote republican until we can secure the security of America once again (hopefully).
You mean people whose favorite Marx Brother is Karl?
YES! perfectly said…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Republican neo-cons = Democratic neo-cons. Both deserve to be defeated at the polls.
Any politician who does not denounce this sexism against Palin should be crossed off your ballot, simply don’t vote for them. The same crap being peddled by the Obama people and the Obama media — sexism and racism — during the primary continues to be peddled now.
Obama started with the race card right off the bat when the campaign switched to taking on McCain and all of the pigs continue their game of calling every racist who does not support Obama. As soon as Palin is selected for VP, the sexism goes through the roof.
Why do people continue to support Obama? That is the big question.
Got any actual evidence the Obama campaign engaged in sexism vis a vis Palin?
They pay assholes like you, right?
Bush said the same exact thing when he was asked about the whisper campaign against McCain and Texas governer Ann Richards…GOT EVIDENCE? A truly innocent person is just as horrified at the underhanded tactics.
Obama already said to lay off the families, so his displeasure with the media’s tactics is already on record.
Like Michael Corleone in “The Godfather 2″, Obama has lots of “Buffers” to handle the dirty work.
Yeah, buffahs. The Family’s got a lot of buffahs…
Obama dumped all this negative junk on Palin to the press.
Do you know who you are talking to? We are the same people who saw the MSM repeat Obama’s talking points about Hillary!
I suppose Obama will tell Iran not to develop nuclear weapons and they will listen to him.
So how will Obama punish the Obama media for their transgressions?
Got any evidence your head is not stuck up Obama’s ass?
Only in passive aggressive, sly, subversive ways…
Here is one example… what is she implying?
This is classic Obama…
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/michelle-obama-no-more-kids-for-barack-and-me/
Then, belittling “Wasilly” remark…
Obama’s got more than 99 problems, and Palin is just one.
We will never forget his passive aggressive sexist remarks. he has burned his bridges with many women voters.
Yes, actually the blogger on Daily Kos ArcXIX turned out to be posting from AKP Media. This was the blogger who pushed the smears against Palin’s 17 year old daughter and the fake pregnancy scandal involving her special needs baby. The IP addresses were traced, and I can supply evidence.
Did you give it to Hannity? Or the McCain campaign? If you have evidence, please give it to someone who can use it!
The Republican Party Knows they have to change after the 8 disastrous years of Bush and the Iraq occupation and I think are actually trying to do it and McCain and Sarah sound wonderful! Breath of fresh air!
The Democrats thinking they would just win by a landslide listened to THUGS and organizers who use the misogyny and race to bully and have ruined the landslide if any win. They need to be taught a lesson too. Then Pelosi, Dean, Brazille and Obama need to go away! I will never forgive them with what they did to Hillary and I don’t care that Hillary is playing nice now with Obama. I am pissed at her not doing the right thing on so many levels. I would support her again but I am angry at her now also.
I am not angry at Hillary. I consider her a victim with very little support in her own party (party officials that is).
McCain 2008
Hillary 2012
Yeah, she got no support from the DNC and it feels like the 18 million votes were TOTALLY disregarded at the bullshit of a roll call. I’m furious at that. Hillary should have insisted on at least that roll call.
I know she’s a PARTY Loyalist but I don’t and never will sign a loyalty oath to anyone outside my family. I understand her reasons. I wish she would aknowledge ours.
Country First from now on for me.
Hillary’s making it clear that her priority is down-ticket dems – NOT barky. She’s busy raising the money for them that barky promised, then reneged on, after he bribed or forced them into backing him.
After barky loses, Hill’s gonna have a lot more dem friends in Congress than barky or anyone else is – translates to POWER – how ’bout Majority Leader? And 2012 is looking better and better for her.
Exactly. She’s booked solid from now to election day. Among other things, she’s raiding money for downticket dems.
She’ll finesse this. She looks at the long term.
raising money, not raiding!
Whether or not she becomes Majority Leader or not, Hillary will be THE power in the Senate IF Obama loses. With Ted Kennedy on the wane, she can rightfully inherit Kennedy’s stature as elder stateswoman for the Party. She may have lost this battle, but she has not lost the war. There is still much she can and will achieve, not the least of which is the Oval office in 2012.
Bill and Hillary are still two of the most brilliant strategists in the Democratic party. I would argue the only long term strategists. I would wager they are already planning her next run and everything they are doing from now till then is to that end. Plus they have learned from this debacle and will be stronger next time around.
I do not intend to condemn or desert Hillary now in her hour of need because she goes out and works for Obama. I can look beyond that to the next campaign.
You can guarantee McCain and Hillary Clinton will have a good working relationship throughout his administration. She can get a lot done and come back stronger in 2012. If Obama became President, he would try keeping her in check, so she could never become too powerful.
Did y’all actually watch McCain’s speech last night? He said very clearly that he works in a bipartisan fashion, and would have people from across the aisle in his administration. You know what I was thinking – maybe Hillary for Sec. of State??
And Roseeriter, I am so with you on all of the misogyny and NO support from her colleagues/DNC. I know she has to suck it up for now and campaign for Obama – you know, being a Dem senator and all.
One completely snarky comment along those lines – Obama is sending out Sibelius to try and counter Palin’s appeal??? Seriously? Does anyone remember her incredibly wooden SOTU response this year? It was beyond painful. When they started calling her a rising star in the Dem. Party, I couldn’t believe it! She may be a very nice person, but she does NOT have the personality of a Sarah Palin. Not even close.
I thought the same exact thing when McCain said he will appoint Dems and Indies. He will, too! Lieberman is in for sure. I bet Hillary as well!
PUMAs could write and thank him for saying that and pledging our support for Hillary in the McCain administration!
Exactly, which is why I am voting McCain. Every one has to vote their own conscience. But I believe the surest way to help Hillary is to vote McCain. I am afraid that if too many don’t vote at all for Prez, or write in Hillary, or vote third party it will take too many votes from McCain and could result in electing Obama. I also think to be able to effectively purge the party of the far left neoDems and resyructed the DNC we need to make Obama lose BIG time.
Hillary’s making it clear that her priority is down-ticket dems – NOT barky. She’s busy raising the money for them that barky promised,
- Exactly. He was all in this for himself, now Hill is out there cleaning up his mess.
“It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush and an Obama”
…I try to keep my political debates logical and rational, but I swear, I truly hate Obama’s guts. I really do.
Amy,
Everyone knew this was coming! There could be NO starker contrast between the two partys!
Once before, I commented on the COWARDICE of Democratic leaders!
Women in Iraq, armed and yes, dying, but Reid and Pelosi could not hold a microphone in defense of Senator Clinton!
I haven’t watched the MSM for at least a year. I didn’t realize how bad they had treated Senator Clinton until watching videos of the appalling treatment she received.
What an eye opener to see grown men act like teenagers in a locker room talking trash about a female because their “EGOs” felt threatened.
Yet, no one spoke up not even the owners of the TV stations.
The Democratic Party, as far as I’m concerned, had crossed the line for allowing it to happen. But, also because in their goal to have Barry as their nominee, they became a party of the sexism and ill treatment of Senator Clinton.
The Democrats have only themselves to blame. I want to bring a formal complaint and lawsuit against them. The Denver convention was a sham. It is a criminal act for anyone to try and force someone to vote against their will by holding them hostage. That they will be no longer viable to hold their seats in Congress or for those who were selected delegates to hold something else over their heads.
This was not an election. Senator Clinton should not have even run but who would have known that the DNC had such ulterior motives. They needed someone viable to run against Barry, but in the process Senator Clinton worked her heart out and put herself in debt.
The Democratic Party, as a whole, should be answering to charges for their complicity in criminal activities.
Gloria Allred, who usually is a staunch supporter of women’s rights, should have already filed complaints and got action going regarding this sham convention. All that money….on television for everyone to see….and nothing is done!!!
I am offended by what the media has done. First, because Senator Clinton is an execptional candidate and did not deserve any of this. Second, because they didn’t do anything to Barry except cover up his mistakes. Third, as a women, the TV media should have formal charges brought against them for trying to make all women look and feel like third rate human beings.
When they spouted out their garbage, every time they opened their mouths…they spouted it towards all women because they know she represented women and what a women can accomplish. They even made fun of us older women….and it’s all on tape.
It’s not over until it’s over. And, until the TV media or whomever, gets their acts together and their hearts and minds to treat their wives and daughters and granddaughters in the most respectful way. They are going to have the biggest fight on their hands, because this is not the 1960s.
Women have evolved….what happened to a lot of the men. It was so demeaning to hear a man shout out to Senator Clinton to go iron or something to that effect. Of course, when individuals like that and the MSM open their evil mouths they show their lack of class, integrity, and deep concern for their wives, daughters, and granddaughters. And, I am being very sincere when I say that a person cannot treat any women as third rate and yet say they love their wives, daughters or granddaughters.
They only love themselves and don’t know what loving another human being truly is about.
The MSM in particular will be suffering for a long while. And, if I have my way, my class action lawsuit will be filed against the DNC by the end of the year. I have already written to Attorney Philip J. Berg regading the matter and he has replied that he will research and advise at a later time.
Senator Hillary Clinton represented men and women voters…..what didn’t the men of the democratic party understand about that!?!?
Thank you Doris for a particularly intelligent post.
The ONLY thing I disagree with Republicans on is CHOICE and healthcare. I can do something about that as a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER at home. SO, I really don’t need and or want the democrats anymore. I volunteer in my community (and own my own business with 3 children) and donate to causes that I deem are important and have meaning to me, my family and my community. THe more I see the contrast of the democrats vs. the republicans the more I find myself agreeing with the republicans. I am sure I am not the only one. The democrats look STOOOOOOOPID and petty and oh yea very corrupt! I
You’re aware that Palin pissed on community organizers like yourself in her speech, right?
Um no, she just pissed on Barky.
Considering her time as a PTA mom, Sarah herself could be considered a community organizer.
That’s the most ludicrous claim I’ve ever heard. Weak, and patently pathetic.
Palin didn’t “piss” on community organizers. She “pissed” on Obama’s lie that he was a “community organizer.”
He was hired to do a job registering voters, which he did with ACORN, a corrupt organization which is under criminal investigations in 12 states.
Obama’s a sham, buddy. He’s a corrupt, lying, sham. He hasn’t represented his constituents in Chicago, he hasn’t represented his constituents in Illinois, he won’t represent your interests as President, and he certainly won’t represent America’s interests around the world.
He’s a liar. He’s weak. And, he’s a Narcissistic Personality Disorder to boot.
One of the comments in her speech was that a small town mayor was like a community organizer but with “actual responsibilities”. It was a slam against ALL community organizers. Go back and read the transcript.
You took it that way, then again you take everything said against Barky as a racist smear. God forbid you would ever consider HE’S JUST NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT!!!!!
Oh, please.
Oh, please.
Oh please oh please oh please…lol
Do you need some Kleenex?
Community organizer. Nobody knows what that is. Another wasteful government program.
ski
Community organizers fall into 2 categories
1st cat–those who ONLY see it as a stepping stone to a political career(and there are plenty of those, BO is one of them)they couldn’t care less about ‘the people’ they are supposed to serve(as witnessed by th slum housing that BO and his pal Rezko let rot.)
2ND cat– those who feel they have a calling to really help people like Mother Teresa and never see it in any other way. They do it out of love. I know because I started a youth counseling center years ago to help children have access to counseling. I never wanted a political career. BO is an opportunist, even the new yorker article chronicled his Daley machine maneuverings. That’s what SP was criticizing.
again you are full of it. you’ve got shit for brains and you don’t apparently read or get “context”.
she pissed on barry’s waffle. man up and get over it.
And don’t forget a dirty homo muslim terrorist!!!!!!!!
And drug dealing murderer.
except that he only murders political opponents and gay men who know his big gay secret.
I agree.
What I don’t get is that he left Columbia to go to Chicago to do some “Community Organizing”. Considering New York City is huge with lots of bouroughs in need of “Community Organizing” why would he go to Chicago?
Yes, why did he go to Chicago.
Why not stay here in NYC?
I was being sarcastic Skiron.
Tell Obama to get out of the toilet.
So what! Barky pissed on small town mayors!
When are you going to learn to think for yourself Skiron?
Palin pisses higher than Obama can, and she doesn’t even have the same equipment! Waaaah!
If community organizers thought that statement was directed anywhere than toward Obama and his Wasilly statement, they need to be better informed.
No, she took a jab at community organizers like Barack Obama and ACORN. That is what his community organizing was – voter fraud, threatening small business owners, embezzlement and vandalism / theft. Basically, this is the kind of community organizing the mafia was known for.
Why on health care? The solution to the health care problem has not yet been proposed by anyone. All they talk about is patching things up until a better day. Hillary’s universal health care is a good proposal but it will be far from a solution. She just want to raise it to another level.
I have a question. Given the fact that misogyny is outrageous and has no place in the public arena; and given that HRC was a victim of this scourge; then where is HRC’s voice in condemning the MSM and the Obama blogs over their misogynistic five days of feral assaults on Sarah Palin, her daughter and her new born child? HRC’s self-serving whining when she was a candidate but not speaking out during the continuing assault on women makes HRC look like a typical self-serving politician. Not a 2012 oriented strategy. The public measures a politician when the fight is on, when courage really counts, when there are big time down-side risks for speaking out, not as an after-the-fact pundit.
You’re only a Victim once. After that, you’re a Volunteer.
By her silence, HRC condones this.
That is my take on Hillary at this point as well. Now is her chance to stand-up, don’t look back, take on these sexist comments and show yourslef to be a leader. I am dissappointed in her lack of cajones when standing up for a fellow American woman.
http://www.carpetride.wordpress.com
My reply to Gloria Steinem’s LA Times article
Gloria Steinem?
Is she still fucking Jim Brown?
She was never one of my favorite feminists. I preferred Shulamith Firestone.
The power struggle with the Clinton’s in the upper party echelons have destroyed the party, but not the Clinton’s or that old time core democrats. We will still be here when the smoke settles.
I don’t agree with Gov. Palin. However, I do think she is qualified as much for the VP slot as anyone. I would have been more than likely to vote for McCain if Olympia Snowe was chosen. McCain needed to go to his base..that is his decision. Is it political pandering..sure..but that is politics. Snowe would have attracted more Hillary supporters than Palin. But that would be no guarantee in this election cycle where the RNC is still tied to its rabid right winger base.
The dem base however is moderate to progressive and the DNC failed to pander to them. In fact, went out of its way to insult them. So you loose.
Most Democrats would have been very tempted to vote for McCain, if he chose Olympia Snowe as his running mate. I’ve always loved her. But the GOP party apparatus is a long-standing grassroots tradition. Their party was fractured by George W. Bush winning in 2000. This was a chance for them to unify, rally and reform, much like the Democrats hopefully will in 2012 or 2016. Everyone who fought to make this happen this year for the Democrats deserves praise for their insight and courage. There was such a strong opportunity for a Dem in the White House this year and the first Madame President. Barack Obama and his accomplices destroyed that dream. As for McCain, he needs his base to win. Sarah Palin was a win-win selection for him.
Palin’s popularity over McCain and Obama…the proof of desperation is in the Bots pampers…..
I don’t intend to vote in this presidentyial race. Like many of you, I’m an HRC supporter who can’t embrace the Chosen One. I don’t find the Palin comparison to HRC compelling or equal. Palin is a radical phony on multiple levels, HRC is not. Palin will gladly chain your pregnant daughters to their beds to help them conceive, even if the child is to be “special.” The “media” was singled out by McGrandPa to take the heat off his selection and the worful shape of the Repug Party. I don’t feel Sarah, the self described pit bull, has been much maligned. In fact, I think her past judgements (like attending 5 colleges) need to be examined and given light. So, for my money, go MSM on Palin and the Chosen One. Tell us all!
Wow, pretty radical thoughts there…
Do you need help?
New crazy trolls trashing Palin and talking about how great Hillary was. They’re doing the same thing on Kos. It’s supposed to lure back women voters.
dang luigi, forgot your meds or what?
Pat Buchanon said his sister and Mother were disgusted by the way Hillary was being treated. (Maybe included his wife, too.)
Pat Buchanon’s Mother voted for Hillary in Florida.
I disagree with PB on so many levels, but he was right here.
AND, he stood up for what’s right.
Sarah Palin did what many have wanted to do, but she did it on a national stage that caught all pundents off guard as they consider that no one will challenge Obama’s record or actions, well Sarah Palin did and did it extremely well, although tempered in many ways as well.
Obama instead of being a man and standing up and defending the call outs made by Palin, deploys women of the party who have no choice but to fall inline.
They cannot defend Palin’s direct attacks on Obama’s fake Presidential Seal, his lacking of legislation (except for those he stole from others), his do nothing community organizing experience (which even then he took credit for something he did not accomplish and stole the acolaides from the woman who actually did all the work, Ms Robinson), to name a but a few.
In one 40 minute speech two nights ago, Sarah Palin exposed the tip of the iceburg of Obama’s lack luster career and experience.
Astroturf liar David Axelrod was caught with his pants down after her speech, because the truth is a hard thing to battle against, espeically for someone who’s major prior accomplishement consists of 2 things, a useless Gov in Mass and an advertising campaign for a utility that was complete lies, but scared his neighbors into accepting substancially higher electrical rates based on his advertising lies.
Hopefully next week when Hillary is forced to take center stage in defence of Obama, she will read what is expected and stop part way through and simply tell the audience “I am sorry I cannot promote these lies about Obama to you”!
Country before party and Hillary, to lie about someone to run the country is a slap in the face to the entire country!
this would be a perfect way for Hillary to stand up against what was done to her. This is about our country not a political party. I think George Bush is the worst President we have ever had. But I am not going to say I hate Republicans or never vote for one because of him. Likewise I am not going to tow the line for Democrats when they have obviously went insane by promoting an terrorist loving, racist, American hating church going of 20 years among other things. Obama is crooked and he’s lazy. I have no tolerance for lazy people. But…Hillary won’t do that. How quick do you think Obama’s numbers would plummet if she and Bill pulled their support??
I’m sorry this happened to Hillary and it’s awful. But as far as I’m concerned, supporting who trashed her is unacceptable. Maybe she has a better reason than just supporting the Democratic party, I don’t know. But if she does I’d be willing to hear it. I would hate to think all that work was for nothing.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
No one watches TDS anymore. Go fish.
If Obama has been diagnosed with ADD, shouldn’t that be given to the public and not hidden by Obama’s physicians?
I think that if Obama’s physicians hide from the public important information, they should be held accountable. I think that although medical records are voluntary disclosures, withholding facts that could affect Obama’s ability to exercise his office should be made public.
You scatterbrains conveniently keep overlooking some hard facts of life. Like the fact that McSame needs 100% of his base plus at least half of all other voters to hope to win this thing. Obama’s base is not only much larger and more inspired to vote for him but he’s also getting just over half the indies at this point plus a crucial number of Republicans are on record for him as well.
MCSame’s a loser in more ways than one, shockingly, his speech last night was underwhelming to say the least, and you simps need to learn to show a little more respect for your next cic.
BARACK OBAMA O8!
McCain not only has his (finally unified and energized) base, but many of us who can see through Obama’s BS are also voting for him.
I’m a registered Independent voter who supported Hillary Clinton. I didn’t support her because she was white, a woman, a Democrat or a Clinton. I supported her because her accomplishments and record indicated that she was the most qualified of all the contenders on either side.
I am supporting McCain/Palin because of the two choices for POTUS, there is only one with a track record, and it’s not Obama.
Obama talks a good game, but to date has accomplished NOTHING. If I wanted a charismatic speaker to lead our country, there are many who are not as divisive as Obama, and who have far less baggage.
In the end, Obama will lose this election. The racist slurs (how predictable) against the McCain/Palin ticket have already begun, but this time America is aware of this sleazy tactic. Obama’s problem is not that he is black, it is because he is green, as in inexperienced, untested, wet behind the ears, and just plain full of shit.
After endless months of being force-fed the arugala of the Obama surrogates, McCain/Palin have cleared the table in one fell swoop and dished out some meat and potatoes.
Well written, Tony.
If I wanted a charismatic speaker … I’d join A CHURCH ….
I like how you accuse people of overlooking facts and then pull your own facts out of mid-air.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/party_affiliation/partisan_trends
During August, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Republicans increased two percentage points to 33.2% while the number of Democrats was little changed at 38.9%.
That gives the Democrats a net advantage of 5.7 percentage points, down two points from a month ago and down significantly from the double digit advantage they enjoyed in April and May.
But right now, McCain has 100 % of his base and only needs 4% of the Dems. Then there are the Independents. McCain is polling well with them. Not to mention 30% of Hillary supporters are voting for McCain.
and your point is what?
LOL…is that all you’ve got cheeto breath?? haha
Analysis clouded by distortion. Distortion twisted by voids.
I want to point out what a previous poster said about the polls. Only 1 out of the 3 days in Rasmussen reflect Palins speech, and it does not reflect any of McCains speech. Watch these polls around Tuesday of next week. McCain will in all likelihood have not only a lead, but a lead that is outside of the margin of error.
The internals of the poll are even worse for Obama than the actual overall numbers. This guy is starting to look not even as presidential as the #2 on the Republican ticket.
I am not trying to be funny when I say this, but Biden has got to be wishing he had his old comfy job back in the senate. He has got to be wondering how he got talked into jumping aboard the trainwreck that is known as the messiah express.
He is probably praying that the rumors are true about him getting dumped for Hillary. Obama is radioactive at this point.
Hillary and Bill played the role of good democrats and gave their speeches at the convention. If she was smart she and Bill would just got take a 2 month vacation somewhere on some little undisclosed island, and just kick back and relax, drink some margaritas and watch Obama implode.
If Hillary does decide to get involved on Obamas behalf, then she is crazy. He will just drag her down with him, and tarnish her own reputation in the process.
I gave her a pass after her convention speech. I figured she was just doing what she had to do, but if she goes out and starts stumping for the messiah, ecspecially if she attacks Palin in a way that is meant to try to turn women against her, then Hillary is on her own at that point.
As much as most of us supported and loved Hillary in the past, even Hillary has got to be held accountable if she crosses that line …
but all 3 of those days take the RNC into account.
And if you think McCain’s abortion of a speech moved anyone to do anything except take a nap. You. Are. Crazy.
UH, UH, UMMMM……
one of the funniest things about this to me is the number of people who seem to think the presidency will be decided by the person who gives the best speech.
McCain deliberately gave a serious and measured speech.Mark Salter is a good speechwriter. But the end was awesome, I have to say. McCain got the Republicans in that convention center fired up and ready to go.
The only thing more dull than McSame’s lame effort was Cindy’s torturous and contrived and utterly sleep-inducing performance. Now we know why they don’t let her speak more. Someone get that adulteress bore off the mike!
That was really uncalled for.
I see a woman with a loving heart, who is human and shares that aspect of herself as well.
She had done more good around the world that you will ever do, gerry.
I respect Cindy McCain and I think she came across as a genuine person who loves her husband, her country, and is thrilled to have a woman on the ticket.
Few people are skilled, compelling speakers and I thought she was fine. Not being perfect made her more human.
It was nice to hear more about her, her work and their family, too. The American public votes for the family as much as the President. It really is determined by character when we vote for President.
Take the story of Obama and his exceptional background. Many people say it is remarkable that he could go from Hawaii and Indonesia, raised by a single mother… that sounds like an interesting person to me. But I am voting based on how well he can do the job, not his autobiography.
It is rather ironic that McCain, having been smeared by his own party as having an illegitimate black baby, actually adopted a Bangladeshi girl Cindy resued from an orphanege. That girl Bridget McCain could be in the White House, and I find that a remarkable twist of fate that could only happen in America. I really feel there is balance and goodness in this world.
gerry, why don’t you shut up and listen when someone is talking? I guess the fact that Cindy McCain is a humanitarian slipped right past you while your mouth was open.
I would say that what happened to Palin goes way beyond sexism.
Yes.. sexism was used..definitely.
But what they tried to do to her was destroy her before she was able to give her speech
See this
Then last night on CNN , Glenn Beck is piecing together the Marxist plan that Obama has.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-JeeNcTig
Alan Colmes is deliberately smearing her on his site alan dot com
He said she called our war in Iraq is a Task of God.
She never said that.. he deliberately changed a quote of hers.
There is a concerted all-out attack . not just on the Gov… BUT ANYONE who would thwart their plans.
Everyone has to push back against this.
Glen Beck, huh?
Is there any more doubt that NoQuarter is a Republican site for and by Republicans.
Tell us more about the liberal commie plot to take over America.
Hillary ‘12 my ass.
Watch it.
What do you think about someone who surrounds himself with
Bill Ayers – Marxist
Wright – Marxist
Farrekhan – Islamist
Mother – Communist
High School Mentor – Communist
Can you name of his associates who isn’t an Islamist, Marxist , or Communist?
uh, uh, ummm, uh, what I meant to say was…uh, um, uh, oh, Hillary can you help me out here, I forgot the words and I don’t have my teleprompter….LOL
Instead they magnified the interest in her, and the audience for her speech was much bigger than Biden’s.
They set her up to fail, instead, according to the pundits: A Political Star is Born.
I am surprised by the Us Weekly cancellations.
Overall, this failed attempt at the Tonya Harding Method of Political Debate rates a BIG FAT ZERO.
(where have I heard the Zero word before?)
ummm, you are so infatuated with Obama that you pick up his bad habits.
I am an Independent that will become a Republican if Obama wins.
uuuuhhmmm,
Is there any doubt that you are an asshole?
Ummm,
Why do you think you are a smart troll?
Many of us have decided to hang up our liberal idea of ourselves. We realized something, that it is toxic to our humanity when we begin to believe that our advanced opinion on things about the world and it’s inhabitants is superior to others opinions.
You have the right to support your candidate and to speak your mind, but do not push your drugs on me. Do not, “you people” me and call me names because I have a different opinion than you.
I do not go out to Obama supporting sites in order to insult or accuse his supporters of being the sheep that I think they are. But if you come here and call us names, we will toy with you for a time, but only because we feel sorry for you.
BTW, you might seem more clever if you didn’t use Obama’s most used “word” as your moniker here.
Stay classy…
Why is this on Glenn Beck and not on Wolf Blitzer??? When do the “real journalists” start snooping and reporting?
Are you calling Wolf a real journalist?
Is there such a thing anymore?
Journalistic integrity has become as much of an oxymoron as military intelligence.
We all should realize that it is us against a corrupt system. The MSM, owned by powerful people may well not be just a tool, but the machine that drives it.
CHANGE = Leaving your podunk town $20 million dollars in debt!!!!!!
CHANGE = using the office of mayor to ban books.
CHANGE = Hiring lobbyists for earmarks for a town of 6000.
CHANGE = being for the Bridge to Nowhere!!!!!
Change = Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev Wright, Bernadine Dohrn, Kalid, Larry Sinclair, Michelle Obama, Frank Marshall Davis.
Anyone need to worry about this thug of change?
Awwwww – You bots are working SO HARD for barky – spending all your time and energy cutting and pasting his lying, smearing talking points.
AND HE STILL LOST! How humiliating for you!
So effectively, what you are spewing is that
CHANGE = Racism
Change = Lying about your “experience”
Change = Divisive politics after pledging to bring us ‘new politics’
Change = Just romping around on unicorns, shouting “Change” while farting clouds of incense and rainbows with no substantive strategy to back up empty promises
Change = making a 180 degree turn in your platform after assassinating the character of your Dem opponent
Change = empty promises from an empty suit
Yeah, there’s going to be change, alright.
McCain/Palin 08
the proof of your desperation is evidenced by your pampers filling up. If you weren’t scared you wouldn’t even be here. LOL….I love it…I…smell….yes, it’s TERROR. You should be twit….
or this……
NO THANKS!!!!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070412obama-money,0,5913201.story
What you call debt, accountants call assets. Those were public improvement works that will turn a profit eventually. Every single dollar of that money can be explained on a balance sheet.
Why complain about earmarks and then complain about debt? McCain is the one at the top of the ticket opposing earmarks, and she is speaking as his running mate, putting forth his agendas.
There is nothing to the banning books story, since no books were banned.
She was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against, but she was in the end against it. Obama and Biden voted for it.
“If You Don’t Take Care of Women in Your Party (and Don’t Respect Those in the Other Party), How Can You Be Trusted with Issues Affecting Women–Or Anything Else, For That Matter? (It’s the Loss of Credibility, Stupid!)”
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/if-you-don%e2%80%99t-take-care-of-women-in-your-party-and-dont-respect-those-in-the-other-party-how-can-you-be-trusted-with-issues-affecting-women-or-anybody-else-for-that-matter/
This post is a personal reflection on the folly of the Democratic Party and Barack Obama. Makes you wonder what the hell happened that we should have ENFORCERS at a Convention…but for our own people, not just protestors!
There is a great line from The Best Man (Gore Vidal) that ends the piece…sums up the situation PERFECTLY…..
And then there’s this:
This is just like what dictators do when they dispose the previous govenrment
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/03/uselections2008.joebiden
Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush administration· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued
· Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
· 3 staffers have been held in contempt of CongressElana Schor in Washington guardian.co.uk, Wednesday September 03 2008 19:32 BST Article historyDemocratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said earlier this week that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.
Biden’s comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.
But his statements represent the Democrats’ strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.
When asked during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, whether he would “pursue the violations that have been made against our Constitution by the present administration”, Biden answered in the affirmative.
“We will not be stopped from pursuing any criminal offence that’s occurred,” he continued, going on to praise congressional committees for the deliberate pace of their inquiries into alleged Bush administration misdeeds.
Members of Congress are “doing the right thing, they’re not making false accusations about anything … they’re collecting data, subpoenaing records, they’re building a file”, Biden said.
>>> Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush administration· Biden says criminal violations will be pursued.
Yeah.
Right.
And I MIGHT lose 50 LB, hit the Lotto and have mad monkey sex with Kate Walsh…
As Uncle Junior Soprano says (”Sopranos”): “Let’s both hold our breath and see which one comes true.”
I nominate this comment to be the funniest one of the day!!!
Hear hear!
Joe Biden has some sternly worded letters to the Bush people, and he’s not afraid to use them.
I can’t believe the Dems are playing the “this time we’ll really stand up to Bush, we promise, again…really, honesty…” card.
Wow. Another great idea, Joe. Let’s not try to reach compromises and make meaningful progress on energy independence, health care, job retraining, the war on terror, etc. Instead, let’s use up all of our time in a political vendetta against the past administration, splitting the country right down the middle.
Some “unity” huh?
Joe Biden is a complete fucking idiot. Always has been, always will be.
And you see this as a problem…? Bush and his cronies should’ve been thrown into their own secret prisons a LONG time ago.
Jesus, no it’s not a problem at all, but if you think Barky will actually pull it off, than you truly are a bonehead. If Barky prosecutes Bush, then he can’t use all the fun power Bush has collected for himself over the years. He couldn’t be king too. And he’d actually have to obey the law, and uphold it and not use it to destroy his political enemies, you know, do whatever it takes to stay in power ’cause, that’s what the republicans did. Might makes right and all. Notice not a peep out of Barky about all those signing statements and if he’d fix those…I wonder why?
It was apparently a problem for the parent poster though, which is why I called him on it.
And where does it end, genius?
Do you want eternal bitterness between people in this country?
Do you ever put the country over your partisanship?
Should we put Clinton on trial for his neglect? After all… he was offered Osama on a silver platter , but said no.
No we don’t do that. We don’t criminalize our leaders or their mistakes. [Real crime excluded]
I think you will feel less bitter once your bones stop screaming.
You are a tendentious bore.
Then why did Pelosi take impeachment off the table? They are all a bunch of pandering scumbags!!!
You know how they would have been able to impeach Bush like they did Nixon and could to any future President who thinks the President can spy on American citizens and collect dirt on his enemies? FISA. I bet Obama would never do something like Nixon when he broke into psychiatrists’ offices to ruin politicians. Oh, wait, Obama did. He unsealed an opponents divorce records and published them in the Chicago Tribune.
I guess Obama’s FISA vote was just a head fake to lull Bushco into a false sense of security?
Obama isn’t gonna do a damn thing.
For anyone.
Don’t believe me?
Check his record.
Just FYI — CNN is standing by to cover a live Town Hall event in PA by Obama, and Fox is covering a street event in Wisconsin with McCain/Palin
Q: Why are the Obama daughters so ugly?
A: Because Donna Brazile is their father!
See? That door swings both ways.
That’s not necessary. Don’t sink to that level. I don’t care who you support – discussion about the children of all candidates from both parties is disrespectful to the children and their families.
And, when this same joke was told on Chelsea Clinton, your outrage was… where?
The joke wasn’t funny then either. Making jokes at the expense of people’s children is never funny.
Typical. Underhanded. Clintonista.
I am somewhat offended by the republicans and their attendant media at the double standard treatment given betweeen Hillary and Palin. Hillary was relentlessly bashed by Limbaugh and Fox for being a strong woman, complete with nutcrackers made in her image. It was this image of Hillary that caused the DNC to turn tail and run to Obama. The DNC joined right in Obama’s chorus that Hillary was negative every time she pointed out any of the 489 reasons she would be a better Prez than Obama.
Now, we have repubs cheering to Palin’s self-description of being the equivalent of a pit bull and the convention playing “Barracuda” obviously referring to Palin. So where are the nutcrackers?
I don’t want McCain or Palin for president. I want Hillary. Hillary would be better for the country than McCain, Palin or the two combined. I feel we need to forget this two party system and get Hillary on the ballot in November.
McCain-Palin are not going to work for us the way Hillary would. Further, if the McCain-Palin ticket is a runaway hit, that will boost the republican control of the Senate and congress. So if Hillary runs in 2012 she will be facing the same hostile legislators that Bill faced in the 90s.
Deborah
so what do you suggest-voting for Obama or just sitting home doing nothing? And how do you know the Republican’s put out the nutcracker doll? That could have easily been by Obama’s punk thugs. You are blaming the Republicans for the DNC not having any balls?? If they are that big of wimps they don’t deserve to be the leaders of anything.
As for Hillary, IT’S OVER. She gave up and now she is supporting the person who led and upheld the many sexist, crude, nasty attacks on her.
I kinda thought the nutcracker think was more of a funny homage to her. Being known as a bullbuster if you’re a woman is not always a bad thing, especially if its your enemies.
Not to mention Rush is responsible for her getting a few more votes. Sure it was for his own selfish reasoning, but it gave her a better claim to the nomination.
But I believe the problem most people who visit this site have is not democrat pundits attack Hillary (who would have been 3rd on my list and #1 for VP for McCain) but rather the DNC and the Obama campaign attacking her themselves and also outsourcing the attacks.
Sarah was a point guard and head of her state championship basketball team in high school. That’s when she got the nickname Barracuda.
If Hillary thought the nutcrackers were tasteless, she should have called for a boycott. Penn advised her against that. If Democrats were offended, they should have called for a halt to the behavior. Republicans cannot stick their nose in the other parties politics, but there were some who spoke out against unethical and sexist behavior.
It’s funny the way the media has tried to portray Palin as someone who, after winning a beauty pageant and being a PTA member, just wandered into the VP slot.
Governor of the largest state with the most natural resources? Who cares?
You know what? Backtrack Barry has given his own base of the party, before he changed it to the Demagogic Party, SO MANY REASONS NOT TO LIKE HIM-from his own actions and words, before we even get in to not having any experience and that he knew he knew he was probably going to run for President before even doing the work he just got elected to, serving the constiuents of Illinois. Or Flipping on core Democratic principles and his own previous stated positions.
There is no repairing Barry. HE only has support now because folks thought they were supposed to pick a Dem after these last 8 years, but now are questioning WHY, when Barry doesn’t even stand up for fellow Dems or even his supporters.
My hubby just brought me an article (and apparently the story) in a Technology Trade magazine of when Backtrack Barry’s own supporters petitioned on HIS website to FLIP BACK to his previsous stated position on FISA. And then Backtrack Barry had the chutzpah to flip them off and say, sorry no, maybe we’ll agree on 90 percent of my decisions.
Doesn’t anybody find it curious….this 90 percent in voting party positions. Joe Lieberman was touted as voting with Democrats 90 percent of the time, now Backtrack Barry is giving argument that he will be voting just like Joe Lieberman.
Funny how things make full circle.
But, for some of us who actually pay attention and not just HOPING Barry will be different than what facts prove, he endorsed Joe Lieberman, his “mentor” instead of anti war Ned Lamont, let alone he didn’t have to endorse either, but chose to. AND he voted to keep that war going for the full 2 years he was in the Senate, until announcing his run for the Presidency.
All Obama is is Gary Hart with darker skin and a smaller brain.
Obama has a brain?
The Dems never had any intention of standing up for Hillary because Dean/Reid/Pelosi were already in the bag for Obama. The sexism/racism cards were playable because that strategy had the backing of the entire dem establishment.
And what is Hillary doing? Hitching her wagon to Obama’s hate whitey/hate women express to put the party before her principals and the way she was treated. Hillary is trashing her own credibility to maintain “faithfull” to the Democrats, the party that raped her and is now raping Palin. It’s pathetic really.
Hillary is a smart woman. She will do what she did at the convention. She will talk up her position statements. With a wink and wonk, she’ll go through the motions.
She’s a great deal maker. She can use this as an opportunity to get concessions from Obama. Not for her personally, but for her policy positions.
She is busting her ass raising money for down ticket Dems.
Why would Obama want “racists” campaigning for him??
Bill Clinton recently stated “I am not a racist.”
Obama’s response? chirp, chirp
And still, both Clintons busted their guts validating and promoting Obama at the convention.
Obama is quite content to allow the false racist narrative his campaign began against the Clintons, to continue!
NObama! NOBiden! NOBull!
That’s what I’d like to know and it pisses me off to no end that no journalist has called 0bama on it.
I think it’s a fair question. And yet not one journalist has even hinted at asking the question even in passing.
This is how they are keeping the Clintons hostage. The press refuses to get to the core of the racist charge leveled by 0bama and his supporters because they don’t want the truth to come out.
So the Clintons are still wearing the label of racist and the only way to prove that they’re not is to campaign for 0bama.
It’s a horrible predicament for them to be in and too bad some here think that Hillary should slammed and trashed because of it.
I don’t think some people realize how strong that racist label was. It was fanned by the media, and unfortunately, some AA’s bought into it.
A lot of people on my family did. There are people out there who truly believe that Hillary wanted Barack dead.
So Hillary has to fight against the sexism, while fighting against the racist attacks as well.
There’s been talk of her going into Black churches to mend the damage that Barack has done with his slash and burn tactics.
She has a whole lot of work to do and she still needs support.
Why do a bunch of girls have to do Obama’s work for him? Why can’t he man up and do the job himself?
And if you think this will change anyone’s mind, you haven’t been paying attention. Which is precisely the problem with you AND your candidate.
Voting for the progressive, liberal African-American presidential candidate: Cynthia McKinney.
In some states, a vote for McKinney will be a vote for Obama.
What the OBF and the media fail to realize is that HRC was already scheduled to be in Florida, she isn’t making a special trip to get Obama’s souffle’ out of the burning oven.
True. Thanks for bringing this up. I hope she goes to an orange grove, says “No McCain, no way.”
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>>>>Can you imagine how different this past year would have been had the DEMOCRATS taken this kind of approach to Senator Clinton?
Just more proof – the Establishment propped up a newbie senator for the sole purpose of taking out Hillary and allowed Obama and the media to use an “anything goes” approach. (Read: License to kill)
Newbie senators don’t begin running for president during their FIRST YEAR in office, but are usually focused on keeping a low profile.
And NO newbie senator continually trashes a former president of their own party! – unless they’re controlled by the Establishment that Obama claims he’ll “change.” ha!
And people wonder why this longtime Dem is now a Repub??
i’m a single father of twin girls (4 years old)
men can care for kids and work too…
i used to think that in america it wasn’t what sex you are or if you had kids but how good you are at what you do that was important…
looks like i have been proven wrong by all the Hope and Change that Barack and Michelle and been spreading around…
I am certainly very upset that my daughters have this new America to grow up in…
I hope that Mccain and Palin can save this country…
I hope that we vote in enough numbers for Mccain so that Obama can’t steal our votes again…
a. hillary
b. mccain
My 10 year old daughter was offended by the way Hillary was attacked. I was not initially a Hillary supporter but she was. If a 10 year old girl can see it, I think we don’t have to worry about the next gen of girls. They are smart. All we need to do is support them and encourage them to keep their eyes open.
Hillary campaigning for Obama simply reminds everyone that she isn’t on the ticket.
How is that helpful to Obama?
I suppose Hillary is supposed to say something like, “Hey, women voters! Don’t vote for a woman. Vote for the guy who didn’t want to hire me! He is the one who really stands up for women!”
Yes, I am sure that will go over real big.
Next thing you know, I will be expected to believe the people who called a US Senator “Shillary” are going to protect my reproductive rights.
Sorry, no sale idiots.
Well said!
Rush Limbaugh began show today about Obama needing Hillary to campaign for him.
LOL
Yes, Deborah C., you ar eexactly correct in your assessment. “Hillary was relentlessly bashed by Limbaugh and Fox for being a strong woman, complete with nutcrackers made in her image. It was this image of Hillary that caused the DNC to turn tail and run to Obama. The DNC joined right in Obama’s chorus that Hillary was negative every time she pointed out any of the 489 reasons she would be a better Prez than Obama.”
My question to you then is why didn’t the Democratic Party stand up for Hillary and push back on this blantant sexism as the Republicans did yesterday for Palin?
Thast is the $64,000,000 question. The democrats are weak and don’t stand ip for their own. That is why they keep losing elections. They let the repubs brand them and the brand sticks. So sad.
Rush and others were opposed to the Clinton’s because they had sincerely regarded them as corrupt.
That is the reason. It wasn’t because she was a woman.
I’m not judging if they were corrupt. But the perception of corrupt was sincerely held and thus Rush and others did not treat the Clintons with respect.
I know saying this will invoke anger… but it’s the truth.
And after enduring a week of the most oppressive deception I have ever seen…. every bone in my body is screaming for truth-telling.
You don’t invoke my anger. Pity, maybe.
I hope your bones stop screaming. Thankfully for you, your fingers can still type.
I’m just explaining.. Do I need to give my bio every time I talk about the 90s?
I’m on your side.
That’s not why Rush, Hannity, O’LIElly and the entire Repub Party hate the Clintons. They hate them because they’re