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This is an “Oh my god!” post on the race card, in yet another ludicrous instance

George Stephanopoulos, on his ABC This Week, today asked Barack Obama about the Republicans’ rather sarcastic references, during the RNC speeches, to his “experience” as a “community organizer.” Obama responded that he thought that service to the community was a positive activity. He said that John McCain extols “nation first” and himself touts the importance of service.

Then George Stephanopoulos made this comment:

You’re smiling about it. But some of your supporters were listening, and they heard subtle racial code.

What??? Is THIS what MSM reporters are going to ask Gov. Sarah Palin once she takes press questions? Will the questions go like this? “Governor Palin, were you aware that many Obama supporters interpreted your comments about Obama’s community service as ‘racial code’?” What do you want to bet that that’s what she’s going to be asked? I tell you, if Barack isn’t seeking refuge by playing the race card, the media is only too willing to do it for him.

Obama responded that he didn’t hear that. He complained that “folks suddenly tried to grab the change banner, and that they have a very traditional view of what service means.

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Comment by Marilyn | 2008-09-07 11:50:25

In that same interview Obama mentions his muslim faith and Stephanopoulos said don’t you mean Christian faith.

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-09-07 11:53:58

OMG. I haven’t gotten that far. (West coast — and I taped the show, so am just playing it back.)

Comment by MedusaPUMABarracuda | 2008-09-07 12:14:47

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-09-07 12:19:16

Comment by PKJAYNE | 2008-09-07 12:33:05

First Zogby, now gallup?

No wonder there haven’t been any trolls in this morning. They are crying in their basements.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:09:10

I just had a gchat with my friend in NY. She volunteered for the Obama campaign she’s so worried about NY going red. I figure it’s a longshot, but she’s freaked out about Palin.

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-09-07 15:43:04

Barky has reason to worry about NY.

 
 
 

Comment by tek | 2008-09-07 13:22:37

Uh, uh, uh, uh,…. What a terrible speaker. It’s the crack!!

I’ve said before and will keep saying, George Stephanopolous is a twerp. Interesting that he hates the Clintons but is just ga-ga over Obambi.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:17:14

I caught the last 10 minute (round table) with George this morning!!!!

It was TOTALLY PRO PALIN/MCCAIN I was SHOCKED!!

ALL of the round table were pretty fair from G Will to Barney Frank (or what ever his name is) :-/

(no slight to Frank I just can’t remember the other guys name at this moment)

so they had BAmbi ON???? I don’t want to watch it. YUCK (I’ll just trust you all here)

Comment by kinthenorthwest | 2008-09-07 12:38:21

You know it seems that if Obama gets some hardball questions then that person is is being bia????
Strange.

Comment by helen | 2008-09-07 13:16:33

If you don’t have any real qualifications and the only thing going for you is that you are bi racial what else can you use but racism as an excuse.
He can’t answer any hard questions.
He never had a real job in his life.
He really does not see or hear other people look at the apt bldgs in Chicago he did not see.
He can not refute any charge of inexperience.
He is supposed to be a good speaker but most of it is uhmmmm and ahwww.
Other than being carried by other people what has he actually done?
No records shown from state senate, college and only 143 days in senate.

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

 
 
 
 

Comment by Mickey | 2008-09-07 11:55:39

 

Comment by Oooops I said the wrong thing again | 2008-09-07 11:58:06

My Muslim faith is up there with the 57 states…more evidence please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQK_EhDhZQ

On CNN Donna Brazile was busy translating the ‘code’…another commentator said that was not the case, its coming…

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-09-07 12:02:38

Wow! It’s already up on Youtube!

 

Comment by Oooops I said the wrong thing again | 2008-09-07 12:04:49

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 12:08:02

One word: Busted!

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-09-07 12:09:17

If he wasn’t comfortabl saying it, why did it seem to be so normal when he said it? I could no more [personally] say “my muslim faith” than I could say any other phrase that is not true about me … way ass weird.

Comment by donna brazile hatin on two timer and Freedumb | 2008-09-07 12:19:44

beebop:

That’s what I was thinking. As a Christian, I would never be able to say my Muslin faith or Jewish faith. It wouldn’t be natural or normal.

Then to have to have GS correct him because he didn’t even realize it.

Stop the hate trolls. BO said it, we didn’t!

Comment by American Woman | 2008-09-07 13:36:02

my thought exactly …

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-09-07 16:13:47

I agree Beebop, I haven’t been to mass in many years, when asked I still refer to myself as Catholic, it comes out naturally.

 
 
 

Comment by PKJAYNE | 2008-09-07 12:19:53

beebop I agree, that came far too easy for him.

 

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:20:09

sigh

this is gonna turn out to be #2225 on the W.O.R.M. list of what Obama REALLY meant

sigh

they don’t make roll paper long enough for this list

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-07 12:25:16

The word that’s closest to the heart is first on the lips…

 
 

Comment by John House | 2008-09-07 12:27:33

Holy crap, LOL! TOTALLY busted. I’d love to see a remix of this. Or maybe an echoing 527 (”my Moslem faith…my Moslem faith…my Moslem faith…”). That’d play well in Texas (my aunt still thinks he’s a Muslim).

What a complete and total dumbass he is.

 
 
 

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:17:42

Would be pretty hard for me to mistake the christian church I have attended for 20 years as Muslim.

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-07 12:26:57

I personally have had a hard time seeing that TUCC is a Christian church. Admittedly I’ve only seen clips. But I haven’t heard holy names except in swearing and the NOI seems right at home there.

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:46:39

heard quite a bit of cussing –LOL! Cussingest (or is that swearingest) church I have ever HEARD

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:12:26

BLT isn’t Christian, it’s marxist and humanist.

 
 

Comment by John House | 2008-09-07 12:31:02

That church adheres to the same black radicalism as the Nation of Islam. So the “Black Muslims” of the NOI aren’t the same as the traditional Muslims, but the NOI consider themselves Muslims anyway (traditional Muslims see the NOI as a heretical sect).

So yeah, they operate under the guise of Christiandom when in effect they’re Nation of Islam people. It’s not hard to do when you look into the history of Islam and the Nation of Islam.

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:50:10

Obama’s roots are showing.

 
 
 

Comment by pcbedamned | 2008-09-07 12:25:51

And what do you want to bet that in the replay, this part is edited out?!?
Can’t wait to see Hannity on this one…

 

Comment by NoBAma | 2008-09-07 12:40:37

I predict a 527 ad on that gaffe if anyone has the balls. It should run in all blue collar swing states so it scare the bejesus out of the bitter white folk.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 13:07:59

we need the VIDEO for that!

 
 

Comment by PKJAYNE | 2008-09-07 11:50:52

Mccain stomped Barry’s ass weeks ago on the race card. He needed the MSM to help him get it in circulation again.

NOBAMA!

 

Comment by Pink Panther | 2008-09-07 11:51:10

Out of college, several of my friends became community organizers and they were all white and female. Does this mean the question was sexist?

The MSM is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. It’s getting to the point of being a comedy act.

 

Comment by Thinker | 2008-09-07 11:52:27

And this is the bullsh!t that Hillary was up againt. The media is all too willing to play the race card for Obama.

We are hip this tactic, and it’s not going to work again. I’m partially surprised that they have the nerve to try it again? I guess they figured if it worked on the Clintons, it will work again.

And yeah, of course Obama will say he didn’t hear that. It’s all a part of the good cop, bad cop routine.

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 13:11:44

won’t work on McCain/Palin

1) they aren’t being gagged by the political party
2) Barry’s already picked up all the race-baiting lovers in the primary

he’s going to lose support from those who chose to overlook it in the primary because they hated Clinton or were willing to give him a pass

somewhere, somehow, the truth about Barky is going to start making it into the MSM

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 13:18:08

You got that right–all 90% of them.

 
 
 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 11:52:29

OMG, you MUST be SH!TTING ME. NOW ABC IS PLAYING THE RACE CARD?

What, they heard the boycott of Oprah and her numbers are tanking, so they are going for broke?

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 12:02:11

SEND YOUR COMPLAINTS HERE,

http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3428174

and you might want to copy in the other networks, too, as I did.

This is outrageous. THESE ARE THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES. What kind of crap to play such biased and false attacks. So much for reporting.

Comment by PKJAYNE | 2008-09-07 12:13:30

Submission Confirmation
This message confirms that we have received your submission. Thank you for your interest in ABCNews.com.

This enrages me.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2008-09-07 13:26:58

Right there with ya. I gave them a piece of my mind, and here’s my confirmation:

“Submission Confirmation
This message confirms that we have received your submission. Thank you for your interest in ABCNews.com.

Please click here to return to the home page.”

 
 

Comment by Oooops I said the wrong thing again | 2008-09-07 12:14:45

Barack Obama “My Muslim Faith”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qotHTtr30I

George Stephanopoulos corrects him.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:22:31

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 12:45:49

OMG, thank YOU!

…and thank you all for sending the emails.

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 13:50:15

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

ThisWeekabc.com@email.disney.com

anybody else? how the heck do you fail to deliver when you WRITE THE EMAIL on their own form on the website?

they’re even blocking the email now

 
 

Comment by jadwiga | 2008-09-07 12:48:54

It makes it worse. As noted before, no christian would ever say this unless sarcastically, like ‘my so-called muslim faith’.
Mis-speaking about it shows to me that in his mind there is’nt a large distance between the two. (Best case) Or he just bursted out the thruth. (Worst case)

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:55:02

It’s a proven fact that a liar will always trap him/herself.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:14:16

He’s still an asshole, if he speaks about the Muslim faith sarcastically. Which is how I took it, but who knows?

 
 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-07 13:16:55

OH NO HE DIDN’T!

HE LET IT SLIP?

Good God…By Wednesday we are going to him going to a catholic church for an emergency baptism, confession and commmunion on live TV covered by all the networks to counter this!

 
 

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 12:23:12

This message confirms that we have received your submission. Thank you for your interest in ABCNews.com.

I just sent in my complaint, too. Enough.

Comment by getfitnow | 2008-09-07 12:57:54

email sent!

 
 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-09-07 16:21:52

Here is the actual complaint form regarding television and radio programming it is available online, as well as the telephone numbers below allow you to call and have this done over the phone. I would do both call the FCC and e-mail/snail a letter to abc.

Form 2000E – Media (General) Complaint
You may submit this form over the Internet at http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html, by e-mail to
fccinfo@fcc.gov, by fax to 1-866-418-0232, or by postal mail to:
Federal Communications Commission
Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau
Consumer Complaints
445 12th Street, SW
Washington, D.C. 20554
In addition, you may submit your complaint over the telephone by calling 1-888-CALL-FCC or 1-888-TELL-FCC
(TTY). If you choose to submit your complaint over the telephone, an FCC customer service representative will fill
out an electronic version of the form for you during your conversation.

 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-09-07 12:10:39

ABC was the last of the networks I was watching. Hello FOX ….

 
 

Comment by Artemis | 2008-09-07 11:52:59

“Not ready for prime time” is what comes to mind when watching this interview.

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 11:58:20

Every time Barky speaks, he weakens his campaign. Here’s to more pontificating from the empty suit. The Big Gaffe is coming. Wait for it….

Comment by jt | 2008-09-07 17:11:39

Wait until Joe B starts talking!

 
 
 

Comment by Talk2ThePaw | 2008-09-07 11:55:07

Obambi has already put a divide in the Dem Party and if elected I believe that race relations in this country will decay to an all time low. It will also be the death kell of the Dem Party. Far from a uniter Obambi is the worst sort of divider.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-09-07 11:57:14

I agree.

The Democratic Party died the minute the Obama people started calling their fellow Democrats racists. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg

Comment by ugsome | 2008-09-07 12:09:16

When you turn an election for office into a moral referendum, you are playing with fire. This holds whether your crusade is to make this nation “Christian” or finish the battles of the 20th century.

Too many people who grew up in the era of redlining, blockbusting, panic peddling, and busing are looking for a quick fix for their guilty consciences. Believing that the wounds of the 60s and 70s are healed by coming to Obama is as much wishful thinking that your sins are banished by accepting Jesus.

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:24:38

except

if you believe it

it DOES become true to you

 
 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 13:52:37

have to tell you…that chant ain’t new.

If you were a democrat and NOT FOR amnesty… they called you a racist

I’m not for any amnesty period. It’s about population and the threshold this country is quickly approaching where we won’t be able to support our population with our OWN resources…water, food etc

Mexico is a rich country. It’s time for them to take care of their own citizens.

 
 
 

Comment by Chicago Joe | 2008-09-07 11:56:27

Are they all gonna be in the tank for him? If O’Reilly doesn’t nail him over these interviews, we can throw in the towel. I hope Larry’s sources are correct that O’Reilly “wipes the floor with him.”

See post below….but first, did anyone side Biden on MTP? I only saw a few minutes because I was watching ABC. But it looks like his right eye is drooping more. Did anyone else notice this?

Obama Met With Fox News Executives

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 3, 2008; A22

ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 2 — At a secret meeting with Barack Obama three months ago, Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes says, he tried to clear the air with the Democratic senator by saying that his organization was determined to be fair but would not be “in the tank” for Obama’s campaign.

During the sit-down in a Waldorf-Astoria hotel suite in Manhattan that included Rupert Murdoch, the network’s owner, Obama expressed concern about the way Fox was covering him. “I just wanted to know if I’m going to get a fair shake from Fox News Channel,” Ailes recalled him saying.

“Senator, you’re the one who boycotted us,” Ailes says he replied. “We’re not the ones who boycotted you. Nor did we retaliate for your boycott.”

The meeting appears to have eased tensions between the two camps, which began when all the Democratic candidates, complaining that the network favors Republicans, refused to hold any primary-season debates on Fox. After resisting invitations for months, Obama now plans to appear on Bill O’Reilly’s prime-time Fox program on Thursday, the night that John McCain delivers his acceptance speech at the Republican convention here.

Ailes said in an interview Tuesday that he would never have discussed the matter publicly had Vanity Fair not published an account of the earlier portion of the meeting, in which Murdoch sat on one side and Obama and advisers David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs on the other. The article, based on a forthcoming book about Murdoch by Michael Wolff, says Obama told the Australian-born mogul that he didn’t want to waste time talking to Ailes if Fox was going to keep attacking the senator and his wife and portraying him as suspicious and foreign.

Asked for comment about the meeting, Murdoch adviser Gary Ginsberg said both Ailes and Murdoch “had a really cordial and constructive conversation” with Obama.

“They had a frank discussion, aired concerns on our side, and we’re happy we were able to air our concerns,” said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

Ailes, who joined the meeting in progress and spoke to Obama for 20 to 25 minutes, disputed the article’s assertion that the candidate had “lit into” him. He called Obama “a very charming guy” who is “very smart” and was “gracious” throughout the meeting.

Underneath all the politeness, each side clearly wanted something. Ailes was interested in smoothing relations and having Obama appear on his network, and the senator from Illinois hoped to neutralize a potential adversary and improve his treatment on the nation’s top-rated cable news channel.

Upon joining the meeting, Ailes shook Obama’s hand and sat down next to him. As Ailes recalls it, he responded to Obama’s concern about fairness by saying that “there are opinion shows and there are news shows.” Some of the criticism, Ailes told him, has come from conservative commentator and co-host Sean Hannity — whom he likened to MSNBC’s more liberal pundits Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews.

Hannity has led the media pack in repeatedly playing videos of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and questioning his association with William Ayers, a member of the violent Weather Underground in the 1960s. In a recent interview with Glamour magazine, Obama said Fox News and others went after his wife, Michelle, “in a pretty systematic way. . . . If you start being subjected to rants by Sean Hannity and the like, day in and day out, that’ll drive up your negatives.”

“If you’re asking me if we’re going to be in the tank for you, like MSNBC and CNN, the answer is no,” Ailes recalls saying. Executives at the rival cable networks say it is Fox’s political coverage that has been unfair.

According to Ailes, a onetime adviser to Republican presidential candidates, when Obama asked what issues Ailes was concerned about, he replied, “The sovereignty and security of the United States of America, period.” Obama, he said, responded by talking about his love of country and his plans to end the Iraq war.

The talk turned to “The O’Reilly Factor,” and Obama said he would appear on the show before the election. Ailes says he told the senator that there would be no “embarrassing or underhanded stuff” in the interview and that if he had any overall concerns about Fox’s treatment in the future, he should call Ailes directly.

Murdoch has a history of mending fences with political adversaries whom his news outlets have strongly criticized, from former British prime minister Tony Blair to Sen. Hillary Clinton. An executive familiar with Murdoch’s thinking, who declined to be identified discussing private conversations, said Murdoch sought the meeting because he is fascinated by Obama but that the two still have serious policy disagreements.

Asked to assess the sit-down, Ailes said: “I wanted him to understand that we’re a real journalism organization and we’re going to cover what’s there. We’re not out to get him. . . . Neither of us was overly aggressive but neither of us blinked.”

Howard Kurtz hosts CNN’s weekly media program, “Reliable Sources.”

Comment by Vince P | 2008-09-07 12:09:28

What a coward. And he thinks he’s going to face Iran.

Comment by FACTCHECK2 | 2008-09-07 12:32:27

The Obama candidacy is the creation of neoconservatives to begin with, so all this nonsense about FOX is as contrived as Bush’s impending invasion of Iran to replace the ayatollahs. Whatever happened to the concept of connect the dots?

A compilation of documents identifying Obama’s links to Alan Greenspan economics, oil companies and conservative G.O.P. allies. 
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BushThirdTerm.html

The Donna Brazile – Karl Rove Connection
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Summer08/BrazileRoveConnect.html

 
 

Comment by Hank | 2008-09-07 12:15:27

That is why Fox is the nation’s top-rated cable news channel, they are not in the Tank with Obama.

 

Comment by Agust304 | 2008-09-07 12:23:44

I think Murdoch may be under a little pressure from al-Mansour, the man who raised money for and pulled strings to help get Obama into Harvard and al-Mansour’s client Prince Alwaleed who now owns a large chunk of News Corp, the Fox parent company.

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-07 12:29:42

This could be a false story, about Mansour and Alaweed. So far there is little to base it on.

 
 

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-07 12:26:13

“If you’re asking me if we’re going to be in the tank for you, like MSNBC and CNN, the answer is no,” Ailes recalls saying. Executives at the rival cable networks say it is Fox’s political coverage that has been unfair.

You can now add ABC to the in-the-tank list. It is obvious that this faux community-card equals race code sh*t is a set up by ABC and the Obama campaign.

Everyone, O’Reilly is stll showing excerpts of his interview and according LJ via a republican friend, O’Reilly will wipe the floor with The Precious.

BO is obviously rattled. He’s got no one to help out, vis-a-vis Sarah Palin with McCain. Where is Michelle, baby-sitting?

We can see what type of man he is under pressure and its only going to intensify. Can America afford someone who hides behind the media’s skirts?

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 13:05:59

MAN! Your name “Deep Truths” throws me for a loop every time I see it. I think –DEEP THROAT????? I DO A DOUBLE TAKE EVERY TIME.

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:19:31

and the senator from Illinois hoped to neutralize a potential adversary and improve his treatment on the nation’s top-rated cable news channel.

Gee, I wonder why FOX has such high ratings these days?

 
 

Comment by Lil' Mike | 2008-09-07 12:00:20

George Stephanopoulos, and the rest of the MSM, would love to push this “race card” strategy. The media loves to divide Americans. The McCain campaign needs to remind America and the media of the context of Palin’s “Community Organizer” comments. Barack Obama started this argument when, just after Palin’s nomination, he belittled her experience as a small town mayor. That was Obama’s choice, his tactic. The parallel in his career was his time spent as a community organizer. (Please someone define that term for us.)
Ms. Palin pointed out that her experience as mayor was at least as impressive and to her mind more impressive as his experience as a community organizer. Obama picked the fight now his pissed that she kicked his ass. Of course whenever someone gets the better of Mr. Obama they become, by definition, racist. It’s one of nature’s laws.

 

Comment by Agust304 | 2008-09-07 12:00:49

I also heard George bail Obama out after Obama said: “People will question my Muslim faith..” A few seconds later George interrupts Obama with: “uh, you meant Christian.. Christian faith.?”

Obama: “Yea.. What I meant..”

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:28:18

worm, worm, worm, worm

nobody likes me
everybody hates me
guess I’ll go eat worms

big ones
little ones
fat ones
juicy ones

guess I’ll go eat worms

(yes some of us do remember how to play that on the piano)

never thought I’d be hearing that music in my head when ever OBAMA speaks now days

w.o.r.m.

 

Comment by Susan1968 | 2008-09-07 12:52:05

Obama has turned into a gaffe machine — trying so hard to spin he trips over himself.

This is his problem — the ummm, ummmm, ummm technique is to buy him time to chode the politically expedient answer rather than just answering.

In this metal chaos he flubs again and again.

Comment by just me | 2008-09-07 15:29:49

one has to have a damn good memory to be a good liar~~

This is very lacking.
Thankgoodness.

 
 
 

Comment by WMCB | 2008-09-07 12:01:50

Is ABC trying to sink his campaign even worse?

Listen, anyone swayed by the race card is already in Obama’s camp. All this will do is piss off everyone else, and energize McCain’s base against the unfair insinuation.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:23:24

McCain should just ask the Obama campaign to respond to Michelle Malkin’s areicle about ACORN, the earmarks he directed to TUCC, what he can point to as his accomplishments as a community organizer and how that is better than being the mayor of a town of 9,000 and a PTA mother.

 
 

Comment by Agust304 | 2008-09-07 12:04:13

sorry. posted before reading other posts.

 

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-07 12:04:45

On youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQK_EhDhZQ

Stephanopolus then chimes in and says, you mean Christian? Why didn’t he just repeat Muslim, or follow-up the question rather than burp The One like that. Make’s BO look…well immature.

 

Comment by ????? | 2008-09-07 12:06:34

A subtle racial code????????

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama is going to end up being the laughing stock of America. How can these douche bags think that playing the race card over and over and over and over again can help their campaign?

Perhaps G is trying to sabotage Obama by raising the issue up.

The media is Obama’s worst enemy — he just doesn’t know it yet.

Comment by Artemis | 2008-09-07 12:27:31

The media is Obama’s worst enemy — he just doesn’t know it yet.

You are absolutely right! To paraphrase a Holly Hunter line from Broadcast News: “I keep repelling those that I’m trying to attract.”

 
 

Comment by maggie | 2008-09-07 12:07:13

Notice that when women complain about how Sarah Palin is being treated, they just sit there and call it whining – I have never heard anyone — either when Hillary was running or Sarah Palin — say, “….some people heard that comment as sexist….yahda. Are these men really that thick in the head?

 

Comment by jangles | 2008-09-07 12:10:49

OK. I am lost. Where is the racial code in the community organizer exchange?

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-09-07 12:23:39

Well, if you don’t see it, you’re obviously a racist. I didn’t see it either so that means I’m a racist, too. Now sit down, shut up and finish your wheaties, the breakfast of racists. (For those of you without a sense of humour ie Obamabits, that was snark).

Comment by PKJAYNE | 2008-09-07 12:37:53

lmao Strawberry

 

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:39:41

(chuckle)

yea I didn’t seeeeeeeeeeeee it either!

(I guess some things you have to really LOOK FOR like the big elephant shaped cloud that to some only looks like a cotton ball)

lol

I don’t know whether to call it “dumb luck” or a “little help from their allies called PUMA!” but I never thought the R’s had a snow ball’s chance in HELL of winning in NOV until they FK’d with HILLARY and the WOMEN who brought her to the dance~!~! (jmo) and I consider myself one of those.

Sarah must recognize that as a woman and so far I think she has stayed humble and true to herself the natural sisterhood of being female. It’s a struggle we all can relate to and fight against! Most of us HAVE already had to do that many times for many years.

It’s the young women (elite mostly) who have never had to struggle that just don’t and probably won’t ever get it (until years from now when they are themselves struggling through something)

sad for their lack of wisdom

 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 12:43:58

Me too. Who knew?

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-07 12:47:42

 
 
 

Comment by Agust304 | 2008-09-07 12:12:06

I don’t think it is a race thing or a muslim thing. I think, at least here in WV, that folks just don’t trust Obama.

One of the biggest Labor Day events in this state is the annual mine workers picnic. Not this year.

State’s Democratic base may be showing a few cracks

The Herald-Dispatch

The annual United Mine Workers Labor Day picnic in Boone County featured most of West Virginia’s dominant Democratic Party leaders, but it failed to attract a large crowd of people to hear them speak. News photos of the event suggest there were more empty seats than interested voters, prompting the local county Republican chairman to label it the smallest turnout he can ever remember.

Gov. Joe Manchin spelled out the party marching orders in the lead-off position, telling Hillary Clinton supporters in this state that it’s now time for them to join ranks with party nominee Barack Obama partisans just like she and her husband did at the Democratic national convention in Denver last month.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, coasting to his fifth straight six-year term in the U.S. Senate, spent his time at the microphone advising those who were in attendance why they shouldn’t vote for his Senate colleague John McCain for president instead of offering reasons why they should support his Senate colleague Barack Obama.

But nobody was listening.

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 12:49:47

Pretty much as predicted. When you silence the opposition, per Huff & Puff and the other lefty blogs, you wind up talking amongst the choir. Gets dreary very quickly. One of the things I appreciate about NoQuarter. Aside from the bots, we do get posters occasionally who offer different points of view. No censorship of them here. Thanks.

 
 

Comment by Objective analysis | 2008-09-07 12:12:28

Good Cop (Obama) v. Bad Cop (his supporters, media)

Are we surprised?

Anybody remember the latent charges against President Clinton?

PUMA 2008!

P.S. Check out the polls. Barack America is scared out of his pants.

Comment by Co Co Joe | 2008-09-07 12:51:34

He’s already out of his pants. He’s moved on to the snow.

 
 

Comment by Observer | 2008-09-07 12:17:32

They keep putting the race issue out there in hopes they can trick Palin into falling in their trap & she can be forced from the ticket. McCain & Palin need to be very careful because they’re up against bad people who will do anything to win.

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-07 12:19:54

When they bring up race, they lose. Very surprised they would want to ever go there.

 
 

Comment by jangles | 2008-09-07 12:18:28

As I recall all of this exchange, Palin got hit by the Obama campaign for the triviality and unimportance of being the mayor of a small town of only 9000 people in a remote and unimportant, underpopulated state. She struck back by contrasting the role of Mayor (an elected office that usually comes with budgetary and executive experiences) to that of “community organizer” which is not an elected office but more likely a paid job and usually has no budgetary or executive responsibility but requires the employee to carry out a job description. Where is the “racial code” in that? I thought a community organizer was sort of a social service position?

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 15:11:00

remote and unimportant, underpopulated state.

Not sure what your getting at here…

 
 

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-07 12:18:51

It’s obvious that the Community Organizer comments by Giuliani and Palin were meant to counteract the Dem’s snide dismissal of Palin’s years spent as a small town mayor. She had a perfect right to defend her role by comparing the two i.e. who has wider and more diverse responsibilities — a mayor or a community organizer?

I just watched a February C-Span video on Texas Darlin’s website featuring Palin and she comes across extremely well — very intelligent, reasonable and charming. Check it out.

 

Comment by pal3 | 2008-09-07 12:20:03

Larry should really check his Blog Roll. Some of the sites are pro-Obama spin.

 

Comment by DanL | 2008-09-07 12:20:35

FOX is ALL excited…the NEW polls coming out are showing McCain?Palin are gonna take a “VERY SIGNIFICANT” jump in the polls when released…WOOHOO!!!!

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-07 12:22:09

I here Mondays polls will tell the story….

 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-07 12:21:00

I didn’t watch this week and then Mike said I should in another thread…it is worth watching, I got it on-line, the round table was good…

McCain/Palin ‘08

 

Comment by Pagar | 2008-09-07 12:21:33

“In that same interview Obama mentions his muslim faith”
Others that have mentioned the muslim faith today are at the NYPost.

“AHMADINEJAD’S NEW ENEMY: WOMEN”

“IN one of his last sermons before his death, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini warned of “three threats” to his vision of Islam: the US, the Jews and women.

Two decades later, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks he has the United States and the Jews in hand – and is moving on the third “enemy.”

Article

Would anyone think this has any meaning in a US presidential campaign where we are not sure of the Name of a major political party’s candidate, his schooling, who got him into Harvard, who got him to the Head of the Harvard Law review (where he actually published-Nothing) etc, etc?

Those who didn’t think it could happen in Iran:

“Women were the first to demonstrate against Khomeini’s regime with a mass rally in Tehran on March 8, 1979 – less than a month after the mullahs had seized power. Over the next decade, the authorities imprisoned hundreds of thousands of women for varying lengths of time, and executed thousands.”

 

Comment by Francis | 2008-09-07 12:22:08

Piln Watch:

Day 10 and still no interview/press conference with a serious journalist, conservative or liberal, for St. Sarah.

This woman is asking for my vote, yet won’t make herself available for public scrutiny? I’m supposed to just trust McCain’s judgement of her when it is clear he’s only met her once. What an F-in joke!

Hiding her is a foolish strategy by the McCain camp, IMHO. If she doesn’t get out there and do interviews and define herself, the media is going to define her.

Right now she is only a caricature who has proven she can read a speech written for her. She seems like a capable, smart woman…why does she refuse to answer questions? What is she/they afraid of? Would we accept this from Obama? Hillary? Biden? Romney?

Doesn’t this bother anyone?

Comment by pal3 | 2008-09-07 12:24:44

who is Piln?

 

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-09-07 12:24:45

You said your YAHOO news talking points on another thread here St. Francis of Assisi! Go read those comments!

Yaaaahooooo!

McCain/PALIN 08

 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-07 12:24:54

They won’t put her out there until the MSM stops going after her children…I don’t blame them…the KOS lies continue..

 

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 12:28:38

So what?

Talking Mule Trolls should pull plows and not bray unless directed to. Just shut up, Frank–you have zero to say that would interest anyone here in the slightest.

 

Comment by Agust304 | 2008-09-07 12:32:51

read a speech What planet have you been on? Even my cat knows Palin had to wing the most important talk in her life because the teleprompter was “off” scroll.

Comment by Francis | 2008-09-07 12:39:39

Another Rove lie meant to make her into something she’s not.

Just like that fake story of the flags at Mile High You Republicans are really something!

Anyway, time will tell if she is all she’s cracked up to be…expectations are now VERY HIGH.

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-07 12:51:35

So assessment in that she’s VERY GOOD. Damning with faint praise. She’ll take it.

Is there any doubt she won’t hit it out of the park. Heard tell she was changing diapers just before went out there.

I get the impression that Sarah P. LOVES A CHALLENGE.

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-07 13:24:45

Feel it slippin’ away, don’cha Francis?

 
 
 

Comment by donna brazile hatin on two timer and Fran-arse | 2008-09-07 12:37:18

Fran-arse:

Good gracious. You said you were leaving never to return and yet here you are. Seems you do follow the ONE in his inability to tell the truth and follow through on his words.

But in response to your question, NO! BO didn’t do interviews for MONTHS and now we see why?

Stop the hate and keep your word!

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 12:45:01

His stint at pulling the Chariot for Obamacus on Mt Olympus is done for the day.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 14:12:32

yeah, we’re less than 60 days out and the Precious WON’T attend a debate with McCain..

what’s that about….Barry is a coward in a fight that isn’t fixed. Exactly why he stopped getting in the ring with HRC. the questions were too hard.

I bet a 100 on Sarah she knocks the precious out in round 1… and Biden too

 
 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-09-07 12:38:38

Yeah, Francis, the media will define her? I think their credibility ship has sailed. Be patient. The Republicans, including Palin, are about to come out in full force. And Obama? Well, er, uh, the bloom is off that rose and he’ll give us more of the same pablum he’s been dishing out all year.

MCCAIN/PALIN ‘08

 

Comment by Steven Mather | 2008-09-07 12:39:44

Stop the cut and paste crap, Francis. Your talking point has been dealt with on another thread.

 

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-07 12:45:52

Francis, you sound bitter.

When Obama refused any more debates with Senator Clinton – even though scheduled beforehand – and when he steadfastly refused townhall debates with McCain, I call that HIDING.

And also, you’re WAY OFF-TOPIC in this thread. Or you a bunny rabbit that we’re supposed to chase after instead of the ‘which religion, which card this week’ presidential candidate.

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-07 13:25:24

He is bitter.

Its no wonder that Francis is bitter, and clings to his false Hope and fake change, and his antipathy to those that actually have done things to reform washington as a way to explain his inhappyness with his manchurian candidate’s slide in the polls.

 
 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 12:56:15

Patience grasshopper. All will be revealed. Hopefully beginning next week.

She has, after all, been campaigning since the convention. Sarah will be back soon, locked and loaded.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 15:29:00

serious journalist

Name one.

Right now she [Palin] is only a caricature …

Like this one?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/slideshow_blittcovers

Comment by just me | 2008-09-07 15:41:41

right barrys beeen the “one” for so long why is he worried to debating J McCain??

cos hes a nowhere man slipping in his nowhere land~~

McCain/Palin 08

 
 
 

Comment by AdrianS | 2008-09-07 12:23:17

When asked about Obamoose, Palin will simply refer to her hunting guide:

Obamoose are generally the size of a horse, with long ears, humped shoulders, an elongated head and a “dewlap” or bell hanging from the throat. Their “gangly”, awkward appearance is deceiving as it suits the diverse environment which they inhabit and allows them to travel over any type of terrain.

Next time, “Choosing a weapon of your choice” — brought to you by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

Have a great Sarah Selection Election.

 

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:24:23

Obama already has 90% of the black votes so who is he trying to persuade now with the racial tactics he has used throughout this election cycle?

Comment by Dawnelle Leona Del Puma | 2008-09-07 12:47:55

maybe he’s losing support from that community and we’ve not seen polls on it (yet)

maybe they are getting the complaints directly to their campaign and they are feeling it?

I just can’t believe there are that many anymore

(I always think the public is more intelligent than the press makes us out to be and that goes for all races and preferences, jmo)

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:57:20

HEY! Maybe he thinks the Eskimos will bite. :)

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-07 12:54:17

White guilt among his cult following? Works like Kool-Aid when they think they can correct the perceived racism of their parents.

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 13:01:55

Seeing as how Obama is half white , do you think maybe he halfway may think he is a racist himself? Obama on steroids! LOL!

 
 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 12:59:09

liberal whites with a lot of guilt…about anything and everything.

You know, like the old Joan Rivers comment that she’d never be able to serve on a jury because she’d find herself gulity.

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 13:11:35

When it comes to just Obama AND Michelle I get a slight tinge of justification instead of guilt.

 
 
 

Comment by pal3 | 2008-09-07 12:27:17

She should go on ABCNews. I think George would be fair to her.

 

Comment by Shiloh | 2008-09-07 12:28:33

Well, he was organizing in the black community so I guess that makes it racist code. But then he sold drugs in the black community too, so I suppose bringing that up would be equally racist.

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-09-07 12:32:30

Oops, Bambam. Where’s a teleprompter when you need one?

 

Comment by cpl | 2008-09-07 12:32:58

Hey Yall! Look whoe’s name came up on this site–TWICE— Hello Larry C. Johnson. :) at the top and the bottom
http://www.iacsp.com/iacsp-dvd.html

 

Comment by Francis | 2008-09-07 12:34:32

Here’s some prespective:

Ferraro first press avail: 4 days
Lieberman : 7 days
Bengsten: 1 day
Eagleton: 2 days
Qualye: 2 days
Bush I: 1 day
Cheney: 2 days
Gore: 2 days

Palin: 10 days and ????????

Or is it sexist to ask this question?

Granted her son is deploying in 4 days, which is a legit for the family to want to spend time together. And I’m sure she does have some things to attend to in AK as a governor.

But if she’s not available by this weekend for a press conference/serious interview, that should tell every clear-headed American her candidacy is a gimmick, and she is obviously not up to the job of VP.

Would Hillary have ducked the press for 10+ days?

Comment by Ferd McBerfle | 2008-09-07 12:39:27

You never can stay on topic, mule-boy. Which part of shut-up are you having such difficulty with? Is it the “shut” or the “up”?

Lets try a new phrase on you: Go away. Go, as in leave; away as in “not here”.

 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 12:40:26

Palin did 3 press interviews yesterday. Go tell Sullivan he’s full of it, yet again.

 

Comment by donna brazile hatin on two timer and Fran-arse | 2008-09-07 12:42:11

MEMO to Fran-Arse:

I think your candidate running for POTUS is Obama and Palin is the VP candidate. But if you want to compare the two that’s fine with me. It just shows how WEAK he is.

Keep trying like the O campaign and maybe you’ll hit on something eventually.

You’re one of the worst trolls!

Stop the hate and keep your word and go!

 

Comment by YES HRC | 2008-09-07 12:43:53

Getting nervous? You know that when Palin and the rest of Republicans start their campaign in earnest, you’ll wish she hadn’t come out (if you’re an obot). hehe

MCCAIN/PALIN ‘08

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-07 13:02:17

Yessir. The Republicans haven’t even the put the ball on the tee yet. Their getting in practice swings as we speak.

 
 

Comment by AliasJohnDoe | 2008-09-07 13:16:03

You forget. Palin isn’t going to Washington to seek the media’s approval. She’s going to serve the American people. She doesn’t workby the media’s time table.

The media can sit and sulk until she’s good and ready to grace them with her presence. Let them gaffe it up with Obama and Biden for a few days.

 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-07 13:22:17

But if she’s not available by this weekend for a press conference/serious interview, that should tell every clear-headed American her candidacy is a gimmick, and she is obviously not up to the job of VP.

Your attempts at logic are laughable.

 

Comment by jangles | 2008-09-07 13:45:54

After what the press has done to the Palin family, why should she ever talk to them. I say the Repubs should do Town Hall events with Sarah and skip the press. Let the people talk to her directly.

 

Comment by Marigat | 2008-09-07 14:47:15

Did I miss Biden’s sit down interview?

 
 

Comment by hootnannie | 2008-09-07 12:37:00

I grew up in Logan County, WV, next to Boone Co. where the Dem event mentioned above was held. Rockefeller, Byrd, and Manchin might as well have shut the WV offices of the party, because all those Reagan Dems in the state who helped put Ronnie and W in office will ABSOLUTELY help put Mac in. And, as for Bobo the Clown saying “my Muslim faith”? Lordy mercy!! Who on Planet Earth won’t hear about that?! Now he does look like a Manchurian candidate and the press like his total enablers! The 527 ad creaters must be slavering with mad glee! Two gaffe machines vs. Maverick and Annie Oakley! (And what’s that with the barn/stable/whatever interview locale? Trying to look folksy? Wonder he didn’t wear overalls!)

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 13:23:39

I thought the same thing about the “barn interview”…which I didn’t watch…just from the YouTube. He looked strange sitting in the barn in a suit and tie. Soooooo out of touch. Wonder if he ever wears jeans? Come to think of it, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a Muslim wearing jeans???

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 15:48:36

I thought it was the barn from “Twister”…

He looked COMPLETELY out of place.
Axelrod is slipping on his own turf.

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:49:32

HOLLER BACK!

I grew up in Clarksburg, and my home town has become a suburban office park you’d find closer to DC (FBI fingerprinting lab), but WV hasn’t changed much. ?My uncles are in mining and worked down in Boone and Logan. WV has always gone Dem, but there are a few things to keep in mind: the unions got busted up in the late 90’s, the natives of WV serve disproportionately in the military (and I was one of them), there’s tons of Scots Irish in Appalachia that love John McCain and Sarah Palin. Not to mention, Democrats underestimate the common sense of the working class.

 
 

Comment by Area504 | 2008-09-07 12:46:21

Whatever. Obamabots hear racial code when you tell them “hello.”

I wouldn’t worry too much about the race card comments. That card has been so overplayed, it’s lost its punch. It’s a shame; they’ve set race relations in this country back decades.

Comment by Tuppence 411 | 2008-09-07 12:54:44

It’s all they have left. The race card and painting Palin into the re-incarnation of Phyllis Schlafly.

 
 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 12:47:15

The muslim thing is just a reworking of his tired old race card. Here’s the formulation on June 20:

By Caren Bohan

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) – Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.

“It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy,” Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. “We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid.

“They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”

He said he was also set for Republicans to say “he’s got a feisty wife,” in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

Here’s the formulation from Friday:

“I know that I’m not your typical presidential candidate,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told executives and employees of the Schott glass company Friday afternoon, “and I just want to be honest with you. I know that.”
“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-says-mcca.html

Dude, give it a rest already, OK?

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-07 13:27:17

Can’t believe he still drags out that old speech. Guess he, as so many, likes the victim role. But from which side? Black man or liberal white with a chip on his shoulder and a ton of guilt?

 
 

Comment by NoBAma | 2008-09-07 12:52:24

I havent seen Joe Biden anywhere on interviews either or any shows. Oprah doesnt want Palin on her show I hear. There are 60 days to the election and Mac and Sarah need to be on the road talking to their peeps.
Interviews is a waste of time. It also helps create anticipation for the debate to be unavailable.
All the stupid media want to ask her anyway is a bunch of personal questions, which she should not answer in my view.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:33:23

The only problem is the Obama campaign will be hanging on her every word when she speaks on the campaign trail. She has been careful to keep delivering her lines from Dayton and the convention, because the less the opposition can get a lock on her style, the better. Obama has started trying to emulate Clinton more, because he can’t define Palin yet. And her speech is still new enough that she hasn’t worn out her applause lines yet. There are huge demands for her to appear in public, and it’s best if she keeps introducing herself and stealing Obama’s spotlight. Now he just sounds desperate.

Comment by just me | 2008-09-07 15:57:28

I am sure I heard on Fox Sarah is going out on her own now shes ready and looking forward to her going out on the campaign trails for us?

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 16:02:52

The Dems don’t know what a “pickle” is…no tone, no lock.

The BO meme is to call Palin out. This is not a winning strategy for BO.

1) It continues McCains point, that BO is avoiding him.
2) It keeps the focus on BO’s weekness when attacking Palin.
3) It proves that BO is a Toon and unable to move the media cycle focus back on him and Biden.
4) Having Hillary on the stump will only antagonize Hillary supporters reminding many, of the gender bias and the conversation is between BO and Palin about who is more qualified.

Senator Clinton is.

 
 
 

Comment by DanL | 2008-09-07 12:55:05

O.T. GALLUP just released…McCain 48% Obama 45%…
says according to data..McCain will get a SIGNIFICANT jump Mon or Tue..just on FOX

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 12:56:21

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-07 13:21:48

Everything is setting up quite nicely for the “Whitey Tape” coup de grace to be dropped about 10 days before Election Day. :-) McCain/Palin will win by 4-5 points nationally.

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-07 13:29:30

They better drop it before then. Dean is pushing for 20-30% absentee voting, and he wants those ballots to be submitted at least three weeks before Election Day.

 
 
 

Comment by Michael | 2008-09-07 12:55:52

I’ve been saying all along that Obama/Axlerod are the third term of Bush/Rove. The anti-Clinton campaign. The uniter not a divider hypocrisy. The verbal gaffs. The use of religion for political purposes. The nice guy frat boy cover for a ruthless politician. The Stepford wives. The voter fraud and manipulation of election results. I could go on. Nobody gets this. The emperor is not wearing clothes, people. He created a false self in his books and became rich doing it. They are now selling this brand like rock stars sell tickets and CDs. It’s the end of the Democratic Party. For the first time in my adult life, I don’t think that is such a bad thing.

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 13:00:09

It’s not the end of any party, just like having the religious nuts in the GOP get the nomination for Bush in 2000 was the end of the republican party. We can certainly hope it will be the end of the Dean/Axelrod domination of the democrat party.

Let the lunatics and haters from the left and right leave the mainstream parties and make their own.

 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 13:02:50

But I think Laura Bush is a hell of a lot better woman than Michelle Obama….hell of a lot better human being, actually.

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-07 13:01:23

I missed most of the shows this morning but was struck by the sexism present: “that woman” and so forth. It still seems open season on women, even if racism gets front page attention.

 

Comment by Deb | 2008-09-07 13:02:01

I have a little different take on Barry’s muslim slip. It came in the middle of a discussion about the smears against him being of muslim faith, he and Geoprge had both said muslim faith, so it’s hard for me to jump on it as proof that his heart belongs to islam. I could be wrong.

What it DOES show to me – this guy’s synapses aren’t firing properly. I’ve seen lists online of all his gaffes since he started running. (I know McCain has had them as well- and it’s bound to happen in a long election cycle.) It’s the combination of the variety and number of gaffes with Barry- in combination with his continual aahhhss…uhhhmmmss and hesitation.

I’m not a doc- not trying to diagnose- but he never seems clearly in command of his thoughts. After reading his socialist agenda on his website- I believe he has to mentally work full-time to translate his aims into politically acceptable rhetoric.

For example- did any of you know that his intent is to make FEDERAL FUNDING of public schools conditional on students performing “community service”? No? Go to his own website and browse around..I found that bit of information at this link:

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/12/05/obama_issues_call_to_serve_vow.php

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 13:05:22

Deb, see my comment here:

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-07 12:47:15

we’re on the same page

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-07 13:26:25

OMG, I did not know that. His vs of All Children Being Left Behind. Weaken the school system by adding caveats to their funding.

When did Backtrack Barry do his community Organizing? RIGHT. They are in school to learn, study and do their homeworld, not work for the community or Barry’s Nationalistic vision.

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 16:20:12

The local high school requires students to do 40 hours of cummunity service already. Many public schools require this to graduate.

Doing community service is a good thing when a young person can see how the act of giving back to the community, if kids are “forced” they won’t see the value as much.

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:35:56

This is why we should be concerned about his ties to William Ayers.

 

Comment by jangles | 2008-09-07 14:41:54

Deb: I went to his web page. It takes some time to find that statement about federal funds being conditional upon a community service plan being adopted and in place for each school. When you read that plan, you also begin to realize why Obama is so defensive about community organizing—to him it is the core of political power and change. If you go a little further and look into the Annenberg Challenge and what happened there, you will find that this thinking comes right out of the school change program that was authored by William Ayres and Dohrn and placed under the chairmanship of Obama. The heart of that proposal is not so much about educational change; it is about changing the politics of inner city schools (some of which I might add probably needed to change). But the A Challenge was about challenging school administrators and teachers. The problem is that in order for people to make effective decisions about schooling they have to learn something about schooling; adversarial governance whether it is administrators against teachers, teachers against admin, parents against either of these and/or students the environment of anger and conflict does nothing for learning.

Comment by gerard "Barracuda" Nedich | 2008-09-07 14:43:56

so, Baracktrack isn’t a Uniter then?

oh dear…

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

 
 
 

Comment by texaslatina | 2008-09-07 13:28:32

the more obambi and his thugs play the race card, the more they alienate themselves. so hopefully they will just keep playing it. reminds me of the story of the boy who cried “wolf”. the sad part is that one day when there might be an instance of real racism, nobody is going to believe it.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-07 13:39:04

You’re right. Obama is increasingly becoming The Black Candidate through his own words and actions. His appeal was as a bipartisan, post-racial reformer. He has lost the change message, he has lost the bipartisan argument and now he just has racial politicking. He has fallen back on his early training, because he’s been rattled.

 
 

Comment by candymarl | 2008-09-07 13:28:41

Are ‘community organizer’ two more words now taken out of use due to racism?

At this rate no one will be any to say anything. Including ‘the’ and ‘and’.

 

Comment by APark | 2008-09-07 13:36:20

The smart thing for Obama to do after Gov. Palin & Guiliani questioned his work as a “community organizier” was to run an ad with the people he actually helped through this work. All during this campaign, we have yet to see any REAL people from Illinois who can attest to the fact that Obama’s actions have improved their daily lives.

For me, that speaks volumes. If there’s anything “racial” about this, it’s that fact that Obama has taken the Black vote for granted and has done NOTHING to help his predominantly Black district.

WHERE IS THE MEDIA ON THIS?????? Oh….that’s right, they’re too busy reporting imaginary dirt on Palin while a whole landfill of dirt on Obama is right in front of their faces.

Comment by gerard "Barracuda" Nedich | 2008-09-07 14:46:24

hey look, here is a man Obama helped:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCY5sUsEM7E

a. hillary
b. mccain

america first!

 
 

Comment by Hispana | 2008-09-07 13:39:35

Does anyone who saw this feel that Obama has diarrehea of the mouth?
All I need is a simple answer. Is this what they teach in law school now?
Biden is just as bad. Saw him up with Brokaw and he bold faced lied and circumvented answers as well.

 

Comment by Blu | 2008-09-07 13:53:35

How Dare Sarah Palin question Barack Obama’s qualifications to be the next President of the United States of America!
As a Community Organizer Barack Obama brought about world peace, cured cancer, stopped global warming, ended poverty, initiated a “group hug” between blacks and whites, taught the world to sing, found homes for all the pound puppies AND cleaned up South Side Chicago!
It’s about time that the Nobama crowd got their facts straight.
BTW, the “racial code” was originally encrypted into the Dead Sea Scrolls where the prophecy of Senator Barack Obama was first revealed. MSM knows of what they speak!

 

Comment by Beowulf | 2008-09-07 13:54:40

Geeze, I can’t believe Stehpanopolous is now playing the race-card! Is he deliberately trying to torpedo Obama’s chances by baiting the consummate race-baiter into overtly playing the race-card?!? Stephanopolous is simply way too smart to not know what he is doing.

Without question, the three best and objective political analysts on TV are George Stephanopolous, David Gergen, and Chuck Todd. (Carville, Begala, Rove, and Luntz are political hacks which is why they don’t count. Dick Morris, as a pundit, is a joke, despite his considerable genius.)

When the race-card is played, it immediately causes a racial polarization of the electorate, simply because racist or not, no one likes to be called a racist. This includes African Americans who are ironically by far worse race-baiters of this election season: They will NEVER admit that it is they who are the ones committing the lion’s share of the race-baiting. In the past, we’ve seen African American brazenly race-bait on behalf of douchebags, murderers, rapists, crackheads, and what have you, like OJ, Marion Berry, TuPac Shakur, and so on.

McCain-Palin’s attack on Obama community organizing is well grounded on several levels:

1. The statement is TOTALLY RACE NEUTRAL.

2. Obama was a paid organizer, not an unpaid volunteer, regardless of his modest income.

3. By Obama’s own words, in one of his memoirs, he says he did NOT accomplish much, which is TOTALLY TRUE and then some.

4. Obama’s ruthless backstabbing of fellow community activists Alice Palmer in race for the Il. State Senate reveals what he really believes in. To back stab a long time community activists is to betray community activism. Likewise, to cravenly disqualify the voter petitions of 4 other black political candidates, including Alice Palmer, the night before the certification deadline reveals he does NOT truly believe in voter registration drives, despite claiming repeatedly he signed up 150,000 new voters.

5. He was a community organizer for only 3 years.

6. Many within the community where he worked as a community organizer flatly contradict his self-serving version of events as recorded in his two memoirs, and in his self-glorifying claims on the campaign trail.

7. Community organizing is NOT a big job. And as stated above, Obama’s own memoirs says he accomplished little. IF COMMUNITY ORGANIZING IS A QUALIFICATION FOR BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF ALL ARMED FORCES, AND THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD, THEN ALICE PALMER AND COUNTLESS OTHERS ARE FAR MORE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THAN BARACK O’BULLSHIT.

8. It is Obama and his bots, who are by far the worse race-baiters of this election. Hillary, Bill, Geraldine Ferraro, Ed Rendell NEVER race-baited Obama. Neither has McCain. But YES, the GOP and the corporate media have race-baited Obama.

9. ETC. ETC. ETC.

The above is the full context of the McCain-Palin’s attack on Obama’s community organizing. Since the context is legit, the racial subtext does NOT kick in. Repeat: Once cannot invoke race here.

Thus, to inject race into a race neutral statement, on top of which where the full context is not in anyway corrupted, is to play the race-card.

————-

Note: Not all statements which include race can necessarily be labeled as race-baiting. To say that high profile black celebrities and politicians often play the race card is a statement of fact, not race-baiting. To say “OJ killed two white people and then he played the race-card.” is not race-baiting.

Of course all factual statements concerning race or gender must be said within their proper contexts, otherwise it is race-baiting or gender-baiting. For instance if you’re in the Olive Garden and you see a nice black family enjoying the endless pasta and salad bowl meal, and you walk up to them and say “Did you know that OJ killed two white people?” Then that is clearly racist. Why? Because that’s not exactly the proper context for invoking OJ. DUH! (BTW, the all-black-crime-all-the-time corporate media does this all the time, when they deliberately inject the most RACIST and IRRELEVANT stories about black criminals and/or white victims into the daily news, no doubt to constantly condition us like pavlovian dogs to be afraid, be very afraid.)

Hillary’s statement that it takes a president (i.e. LBJ, Bill Clinton) to pass and enforce Civil Rights legislation; Bill Clinton’s comparison of Obama to Jesse Jackson; Geraldine Ferraro’s (and George McGovern’s) assertion that Obama was lucky to be a black man and so on; Ed Rendell’s analysis about his election against opponent Lynn Swann and the Bradly effect years ago, were all factually correct and uttered within their respective proper contexts. Hillary’s was totally race-neutral, whereas Bill’s, Geraldine’s, and Rendell’s statements did of course involve race.

But Bill’s, Geraldine’s, and Rendell’s respective statements were not just factually correct, they were also all MINOR and off-the-cuff statements uttered only once. And in all three cases, they did NOT control the microphone; they were NOT on stage before thousands of people repeatedly saying “What they tried to do in South Carolina?”–This was Obama did btw, milking and race-baiting Bill Clinton’s comparison of him with Jackson. The control of the microphone and the place (on stage before 10’s of thousands vs. in obscure interviews) is key here, since they spoke the TRUTH which involved race in it’s proper context, but Obama spoke them out of context. Of course, what Obama spoke was scurrilous lies to begin with.

Further, the gists of Geraldine and Rendell’s statements’ are constantly being discussed on the media. MSNBC’s Chuck Todd himself said from reading exit polls from the the Pennsylvania primary, he saw that many whites (Starbucks latte liberals) were indeed voting for Obama simply to get the ugly past of slavery and Jim Crow behind us, i.e. Chuck Todd was talking about Affirmative Action, without explicitly mentioning it, of the most ludicrous kind. Without question, Affirmative Action is a much needed policy still, but for Presidency of the United States?!? FUCK THAT.

What Obama did throughout the Democratic Primary against Hillary was to repeatedly make mountains out of mole hills. No one with a half a brain and an ounce of integrity would disagree that if you make a mountain out a mole hill, then you’re a drama queen. If you do so and it involves race, then you’re the one who’s race-baiting. If you repeatedly do this, then you’re a degenerate race-baiter.

Q.E.D.

——————
One can make statements about race and gender, as long as they are factually correct and utter within their respective proper contexts. When the context is good, do NOT invoke subtext.

Of course, camp Obama kept scurrilously invoking the racial subtext on the one hand and then deliberately ignoring the gender subtext on the other.

Go figure.

Comment by Beowulf | 2008-09-07 15:01:51

Note: Obama never would have won the nomination without his incessant and divisive race-baiting of Hillary. Recall that Hillary had a 2:1 advantage in the black vote as late as early January. By race-baiting, he stole the once loyal and adoring blck vote again from the Clintons, away from Hillary.

Generally, race-baiting is political suicide for minority candidates. Why did Obama’s race-baiting work during the primaries?

1. The demographics of the Democratic primary process are very different from the general election. It consists of blacks, women activists, labor activists, anti-war activists, and in particular for this election as MSNBC’s Chuck Todd asserts from reading the exit polling in Pennsylvania, white liberals who want the ugly past of slavery and Jim Crow behind us.

There were some states, pretty much hard core Republican red states, where the black vote was 50%–even 60% of the democratic primary voters. Compare this to the general population where blacks comprise a mere 12.5%. Clearly, African Americans are disproportionately powerful during the primary process.

Obama’s race-baiting during the primaries gave him a coalition of based mostly on black voters and white liberals. This forced Hillary to increase the white voter turnout, but then again, she had a 2:1 advantage in the Hispanic vote, the Asian vote, and probably the Native American vote, contrary to the all-black-crime-all-the-time coporate media’s “narrative” that she was a racist white bitch.

2. The corporate media and the GOP were greedily piling-on the entire time, desperate to get the Clintons out of the picture. Obama never won a single argument against Hillary on his own. He was always assisted. This includes that gas tax holiday debate before N. Carolina and Indiana, where there was a tsunami of Hillary bashing and dubious quoting of economists. (Note: On the economic front, the gas tax holiday was a gimmick, but fuck the economists. Why? Because there’s political dimension which as deliberately kept out of the argument and that was: Do the oil comapanies want a president who is so powerful that he or she could at will raise and lower taxes? Or release oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, as Bill Clinton repeatedly did during the 1990’s? HELL NO! The oil companies threw hissy-fits each and every time Bill was countering their brazen attempts to manipulate the price of gas, which was no more than a $1.30 at the time. The last time a president was so powerful that it scared corporate America shitless was of course the 1930’s and 1940’s with FDR at the helm. Had FDR lived, we would have had single payer health care 60 years ago.)

Anyway, Obama recently had to immediately back down from his “By the way, did I mention that he’s black?” rhetorical race card. The corporate media is not gonna duplicitouly back up his race-baiting, much less scurrilous race-baiting, against a Republican nominee.

Indeed, they are now gender-baiting Obama, much of which is legit, btw. The reason why their gender-baiting of Obama is dubious is because both the GOP and the corporate media are guilty times ten of gender-baiting Hillary since she took on the HMO’s in the early 1990’s. Hypocrisy over gender-baiting corrupts context, thereby letting the (racial) subtext kicks in. That is: “That black guy is a sexist!”

Hillary has been targetted for destruction since those infamous Harry and Louise ads. The HMO’s alone spent $300 MILLION against Hillary’s plan, and the GOP (and the corporate media) then sent Ken Starr after both Clintons; Starr spent $70 MILLION and found nothing but Monica’s dress. (During the 1940’s, the insurance companies spent about $60 MILLION to defeat Truman’s attempt at health care reform. Adjusted to inflation, it would have been about $300 in 1994 dollars, i.e. the same amount they spent against Hillary.)

See, the Clintons get shit done, which is why corporate America had to eliminate them in this very anti-GOP, anti-HMO, anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-white male, anti-Big Oil, etc., year. The Clinton brand was indestructible from external forces; Obama race-baiting came from within, mind you.

What were the big battles which the Clintons took on and won?

i. Big Tobacco

ii. The NRA, i.e. The Assault Weapons Ban

iii. 1993 Economic Stimulus Package, (raise taxes on the rich), which every Republican said would ruin the economy.

iv. They lost the HMO fight, but won on lesser but nevertheless other very significant health care fights Family Leave and Medical Act of 1993, SChip 1997, portable insurance, etc.

v. Microsoft, the mighty giant, i.e. greedy monopoly, was thoroughly defeated and probably would have been ripped in half if Bushit didn’t get into office. Microsoft used to co-own MSNBC, or the psuedo-liberal anti-Clinton channel that has all manner of racist prison programming where inmates are overwhelmingly black and hispanic. And this is on top their normal black crime + white victims coverage. If Chris “shivers up my leg” Matthews and Keith “get a shovel” Olbermann want Americans to give Obama chance, not be so racist, and vote for a black guy, then maybe she should clean house first and demand that the suits who run MSNBC get rid of all racist excrement on MSNBC’s programming.

vi. Unprecedented peach and prosperity. 23 million new jobs. Increases in minimum wage; significant increases in real income across the board for all racial, ethnic, and socio-economic groups. 100,000 cops on the street resulting in the lowest violent crime rates EVER! From $290 BILLION deficits to $225 BILLION surpluses. DOW from about 2000 to 10,000. Greatest economic growth in the history of the world! (Now overtaken by China, go figure.)

vi. ETC. ETC. ETC.

 
 

Comment by Rose | 2008-09-07 14:15:06

Look what reared its ugly head this weekend:

http://black-and-right.com/2008/09/06/la-progressive-palin-racist

Make sure you read the entire entry to see the extent of the hate of his supporters.

 

Comment by hank | 2008-09-07 15:48:48

Ha ha, that’s almost too good to be true.

So, what was the context? Was he talking about being *accused* of being a Muslim? In which case he should’ve said “my so-called Muslim background”. They’ll say that’s what he meant, of course, and that’s being taken out of context.

Can anyone point to a transcript? Oh how I’ll bet some of those transcripts will be scrubbed, just like his “typical white person” comment got scrubbed to leave out the phrase “it’s bred in” when describing white people’s fear of black strangers.

 

Comment by hank | 2008-09-07 15:56:34

Here’s how the israelinsider describes it:

“In one of the most astonishing gaffes in American political history, in a national televised interview with ABC’s George Stephanopolis, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama referred to “my muslim faith,” confirming what so many researchers and political opponents have been claiming, and what the mainstream media has allow him to deny, until now. ”

bwahahaha … where’s that bris certificate … oops I mean birth certificate, Barky?

 

Comment by hank | 2008-09-07 16:04:52

You know, there’s something else that sounds strange in this interview. Obama says “these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand.”

I’ve never heard that saying before: “Throw a rock and hide your hand.” Anyone else? I mean, lots of American kids threw rocks when I was growing up in the 1950s, but no one ever said that in my crowd. Sounds kind of … you know … shall I say … Palestinian comes to mind.

Here is the transcript:

STEPHANOPOULOS: You mention your Christian faith. Yesterday you took off after the Republicans for suggesting you have Muslim connections. Just a few minutes ago, Rick Davis, John McCain’s campaign manager, said they’ve never done that. This is a false and cynical attempt to play victim. OBAMA: You know what? I mean, these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand. The…

STEPHANOPOULOS: The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.

OBAMA: No, no, no. But the — I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks–

STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said that’s wrong.

OBAMA: Now, well, look. Listen. You and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said that’s off limits. And–

STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said the same thing about questioning your faith.

OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain?s campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin.

Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come–

STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.

OBAMA: — my Christian faith. Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested–

STEPHANOPOULOS: Has connections, right.

OBAMA: — that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either.

What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith — something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-09-07 16:42:05

I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks–

BO is seriouly worried about the O’Rielly interview. If you take the recently disclosed meeting between Ailes and Obama, then his using the

““They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?”

.

Just goes to show he can’t handle the nacked truth. OMG he is offended!

Shiver me timbers.

 

Comment by athy | 2008-09-07 17:33:08

here is more information about Sen Obama’s experience as a community organizer.

These links explain the Saul Alinsky method of community organizing and what it really entails & accomplishes.

Read the reader comments on these sites-especially WindyCity site…

http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-community-organizer-what-is-community-organizing-anyway

Saul Alinsky philosophy? Followed exactly or greatly altered?

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=a74fca23-f6ac-4736-9c78-f4163d4f25c7&p=10

More about Alinsky approach..& Obama’s practice…
http://tnr.com/talkback.html?id=2e0a7836-b897-4155-864c-25e791ff0f50

What did Sen Obama accomplish? Was the approach wrong…or was Sen Obama just plain ineffective?

http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4417&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=48

 

Comment by fred heidrick | 2008-09-07 19:31:27

im sorry the race card isnt just for obama. the costmers at the dollar general check out counter say i gave you a $20 when they actualy gave a $10 and try to con the casher out of the money and if they dont get there way they walk out of the store screaming at the top of there voises that the checker was against blacks.

so many people pull the race card no matter what economic level they are.its a wepon to get what they want.my black friends are not this way and do not like obama and will not vote for him.

 

Comment by bethtopaz | 2008-09-07 20:48:04

Here’s a blog called “Chicagoans Against Obama” with some interesting information about Barack Obama and Chicago:

http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress.com/

 

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