Why Some So-Called Progressives Don’t Get It?
By Larry Johnson on September 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM in Current Affairs
You can not script this madness. There are many on the extreme left of the political spectrum–the Barack Obama, Tom Hayden, Nancy Pelosi side of the ledger–who hate the Clintons for moving the Democratic party towards the positions of the Democratic Leadership Council. Let’s face it, if Bill Clinton had kept his pecker in his pants he would have gone down in history as arguably one of the great Presidents of the 20th Century. Balanced budgets and prosperity leave a good taste in peoples’ mouths.
Now the Democrats under the “leadership” of Howard Dean and Barack Obama appear poised to commit suicide. Deepak Chopra put up a piece at Huffington Post that is mind numbing in the ignorance and bigotry it portrays. Despite Chopra’s prejudice, most Americans are not coastal elitists who imagine themselves to be “world citizens.” Don’t these Democrats realize they need to win votes in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, West Virginia, Indiana, and Kentucky? Chopra writes:
I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision.
Look at what she stands for:
–Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.
–Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.
–Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded.
–Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.
–Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.
–”Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.
These clowns are playing into the hands of the Republicans. Keep telling them they are small minded, God and gun loving bigots who wave the flag too much and they will kick your ass. Is the far left really this crazy?
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I still can’t believe he did not choose Hillary for his VP.
That was the finishing blow to his chances.
What an arrogant fool.
Agree.
Has anyone noticed how much David Axelrod resemble a decendant of Hitler. Do you think he goes out of his way to appear this way?
AND MOLAND SPRINGS’ STOCK WILL RISE
HIGHER AND HIGHER!
I have a vision of David Axelrod saying this for some reason.
Yes David Axelrod looks exactly like Hitler.
Scary, Isn’t that????
Mr. Axelrod is of Jewish descent. His father fled from eastern Europe to the US.
Here’s the point against Hillary as his VP: Why should she be associated with his Chicago Style politics? He should have taken her offer to be HER VP.
Yep, he is such a dumbass. He could have had 8 years as VP and 4 or 8 as POTUS, but he couldn’t learn from a woman. What an idiot.
Yep. Amen. Over and out.
As someone greater than I once said…
“Pride comes before the fall.”
Yepper..why should Hillary be in second position, when clearly she is shoulders above all of the candidates on both tickets?? NOT
Hillary 2012
By the way, what are Hillary’s major accomplishments in the Senate?
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/about/senator/
Actually, I think if Hillary been on the top of the ticket and had picked barky as VP, with all the dirt the republicans have on him the whole ticket would have been doomed.
I think Hill saw that writing on the wall and just did the best thing – stepped away to let bambi and the dems self-destruct on their own.
And now she’s showing what she has to as far as support for O, but only because he’s got a D after his name. Her real support is for down-ticket dems, which will have a great payback for her (and for a reformed democratic party and for democracy) in the long run.
We are seeing history being written. History will not remember a neo-marxist. However, it will remember a movement that was initiated by one woman…
Her name was Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Wait 20 years and see the results. Bozo is a footnote. HRC started a movement that purged the left of “isms” and galvanized the right for 4 years until the healthy left took over once more.
Expect it to include “U.S. President” as one of her achievements.
Hillary ‘12!!!
The Democratic Party must be reformed.
Pelosi,Reid and Dean have allowed this election to self destruct, and this smarmy shortsightedness only allows us to see that despite their terrible record of performance, the GOP has shown more solidarity and smarts
regarding this election.
The Pelosi/Dean scenario will ultimately become a Greek tragedy.
Yeah, Sisyphus pushing the Barack up the hill.
I’m curious as to the story on this…do you think that she turned him down back in June? I want to give BO some kind of credit, because what kind of moronic candidate would turn his back on energizing the ticket with his competitor who got as many votes as he did?
Biden seems like such a dull choice – a decent guy, smart, but definitely second tier – I’m wondering if a lot of people turned him down.
If nothing else, you would think that there is somebody in the Dem ‘leadership’ who would have said ’she’s on the ticket or else’ if she was interested. Outside of the Clinton side of the party, they are a dumb lot though.
That’s still my guess.
she called his bluff.
He was never serious. She forced him to answer. End of story. He truly is that stupid to diss one half of the party.
And am I ever glad. She doesn’t need to be saddled with that empty suit and luggage.
Didn’t practically everyone he wanted turn him down for the VP slot? And he couldn’t give the nod to one of his woman sychophants like Sebelius or McCaskill. And Hagel ran from him like a scalded dog after the crash course foreign policy junket that he accompanied him on.
Biden, I’m sure was forced on him after they realized he couldn’t fake foreign policy expertise/experience any longer.
Don’t delude yourself and give 0bama credit. He’s supposed to be this great leader, the One and yet he couldn’t figure out that the best course was to ask Hillary to be on his ticket so as to unify the disaffected voters. The truth is 0bama feels he can win without us. And wants no part of the base. He wants the older voters to die and the women to “get over it.” Nothing will convince 0bama and his progressive ilk that they are wrong.
I’m a bit shocked at Chopra. Like it or not, even Chopra is keyed into the fact that 0bama’s skin color is closer to his. Does 0bama meditate? Did Chopra really ignore the kind of church that 0bama sat in for 20 years? And yet Chopra sees 0bama as some kind of transcendent leader.
As a someone who has practised meditation/yoga for more than 2 decades, I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in Chopra. He joins my now long list of people I no longer respect. As someone who has actually been up close to people who have made it their life’s work to become one with God, I can tell you that 0bama shows none of these characteristics. I also think that Chopra’s remarks indicate that he’s fallen off his own spiritual path in which the goal of the Seeker is to see God in everyone and thereby become One with God.
People who strive to walk this path learn to accept that although you may not share the same ideological beliefs of people like Palin for example, you come to respect everyone as God’s children. I know meditation has helped me to respect the rights of others to be who they are in ways that I once would never have. I also have the serenity to accept that which I cannot change. And no, I don’t always succeed in this. But I’ve not set myself up as a book-writing, seminar-giving, money-making guru trying to lead the way. It’s insulting that Chopra actually thinks the people he’s described do not have an entitlement to the life they choose. That he has become that which he claims to despise in them, wanting to remake them in his own image. And worse, Chopra clearly looks down on these people. They are standing in the way of the world becoming transcendent. Society would be perfect if it was not for them.
Oh yeah, and 0bama epitomizes such lofty possibilities. Is that why he bused in thugs to lie and cheat the Caucuses? Is that how yogis behave? Is that the way of the monk? The ascetic? Wouldn’t someone of such high ideals be at the forefront of reaching for harmony and unity? Is that why 0bama turned away from the most obvious way to achieve that: putting Hillary on the ticket?
Sorry, Deepak, 0bama is neither transcedent or a good leader. He is just the same color as you. And as a person of color, I get it, it’s frustrating that whites dominate our politics and sure that needs to change. But let’s get real. You don’t accomplish that with a candidate that has inspires such antipathy because of his very actions. Then accuse everyone else for being as being the problem.
It’s too bad that New Age Guru Deepak Chopra, a seeker of Universal truth who has strived to share his spiritual awakenings and serve as a teacher to willing students has exposed that he is ignorant of this spiritual knowledge:
The wise man knows this and sees God everywhere instead.
good comment; clearly mr. chopra went off the rails with his obama = messiah, palin = satan tripe. this is why so many people are getting disgusted with the obamacrats. mccain will win in nov. and hillary will be vindicated.
mimi
I agree. It is sad that Chopra has lost his humility and inner guidance because therein he closed his own open channel to discern truth. Now, apparently he’s speaking from his head and ego.
RE your comments about Obama: There’s a fable entitled “The Jackal” in the ancient Sanskrit that says this as its moral:
Whatever the natural propensity it will be hard to overcome. For if a dog were made king, would he not still gnaw at his shoe straps?
I don’t care how they try to remake Obama’s image for more palatable consumption by the American electorate, he is who he is. And in this election cycle, his true colors shined through!
That’s why I will not vote for this man.
I can’t betray my own inner guidance that believes in truth, honor, a sense of fairness and justice … just to be a “good” Democrat!
— peniel
Peniel,
Thank you for the Sanskrit adage. How true, how very true!
And who appointed you the ‘one’ to pass judgement on these people? Can I quote you on your many astute remarks?
what a load of you know what. Why don’t you visit Sara in Anchorage….the two of you are birds of a feather.
I am so happy he did not choose her! She could not associae herself with this failed canidate. I wrote ealier that people I know in OB land said the only way she would be in his administration is if she agreed to report to Michele.
And again look inside the polls, as BO campaign says they don’t include cell phones they also do not include the so called Bradley effect.
Not taking the matching funds was stupid as well ….
Yep…the Maverick (TM) gets a big fat check for several tens of millions of $$ in matching funds and BO has to waste time at Jon Bon Jovi’s cocktail party to collect a few million. Time he could of spent with his debate coach.
He would have never chosen Hillary, she would never have towed the line for him or anyone else. She has never cowered/nor would she ever to the radical groups that try to infilltrate the parties. Not only would she have taken the glory right out from under him, the same glory he uses to feed his ego. She would have outshined him a million to one. There would have been too many regrets as to why she wasn’t at the top of the ticket where she belonged. As his ratings went down, hers would have climbed. Have you seen the way McCain stands behind Sarah beaming like a proud peacock? Do you think for one second Obama could have done that with Hillary. He would have made it into and throughout their presidency as a Me against Her. She belongs as POTUS, not VP. You see what they’re saying about McCain, they’d just add age discrimination on top of everything else against her in 2016.
Hey! Look at this!!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24308598-5013948,00.html
IN YOUR FACE SENATOR OBAMA!!
The article states:
The Clintons have ethics and integrity and the Obama Democratic Party has neither.
Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism, and the Glass Ceiling for Women
Exactly and that first paragraph is all I needed to read. It debunks all the crap we’ve been hearing for the past week that Hillary is going to be BO’s attack dog against Hillary. The rest of it is just MSM talking points trying to humiliate Hillary into doing their bidding. She’s done with that nonsense. She knows where we stand and what we believe. We didn’t buy into that crap when they tried to sell it to us in the primaries. We’re not going to start now.
against Sarah sorry about that, too quick on the add comment.
What kind of hypocrite would she looked like if she participated in attacking Palin after what’s been done to her?
First, it’s already been proven that attacking Palin this way won’t work. What did they accomplish last week except higher ratings for the Republican Convention and Palin and McCain’s speeches. It’s backfiring.
Frankly, having Hillary campaign at all is a bad idea. It’s only going to remind people of the following:
She should be the nominee.
She should be the VP nominee since she’s not the nominee.
Why didn’t he make her the nominee?
McCain chose a woman, is Barack really sexist?
0bama really isn’t as smart as he thinks he is or as smart as people say he is.
Let Hilllary campaign for down-ticket Dems since you’re not doing it.
Haul your own ass across the finish line. You want it. Win your own damn race!
i think he meant that the Clintons put their COUNTRY before their party.
There were several things said in the above referenced article I was not happy with. Here’s just one though. The article makes a statement that because Hillary is already 60 years of age that she may not have another opportunity to run for President. WHY NOT? After all she has been through with the bias, misogny and sexism thrown at her in the last year are we to now add ageism to what will be thrown at her. At 64, at 68, at 72 years young, this woman will still have what it takes to get the job done!!
In 2008 ageism is almost as bad as sexism.
you neglected to add the comment from the obama campaign. ‘in all fairness, the obama campaign NEVER asked her to be his attack dog on Palin.’ so there…and she won’t be, she’s thinking of other things, far down the line, and you can bet on that.
Because he’s vindictive and childish–to his own detriment, and if he becomes POTUS, to our detriment. Let’s hope the power he’s manufactured for himself isn’t actually given to him Nov. 4.
That’s funny about Deepok Chopra, because I had a list of definite signs of fascism that I recognize from Obama:
Election fraud – gaming the caucuses, encouraging crossover voting in open primaries, throwing out the votes of Michigan and Florida and openly bribing superdelegates through his PACs.
Rampant sexism against both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin
Disdain for human rights – BAIPA, supporting capital punishment
Religion and government are intertwined – faith-based intitiatives
Corporate power is protected – FISA comes immediately to mind
As opposed to designated hitter?
Get over it – you have no proof whatsoever that by selecting Hillary he would have a better chance at becoming president. the primaries are NOT the general election, what works there does not work the same in the GE. nor do you have proof that hillary would beat mcCain in Nov.
seriously, you all have a head problem. if what you want (what Chopra correctly describes) is a hockey mom, and a very snarky one at that, then that is what you will get. and with that comes four more years of the last eight – not so good. it really doesn’t pay to let your bitterness and hate get the better of you. Obama will not bring about the horror you imagine, you can bet on it.
Obama is not going to win. End of story. The left always loses in the general election, and for good reason.
Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Move-0n – all need to go and the DNC MUST be reformed to reflect middle American views and give us middle America candidates.
Wow, this is incredibly biased and ignorant.
Obama = messiah, anybody else = Satan. that’s pretty much been the message of the obamacrats since day 1.
He is only rehashing what MSM has been saying for months.
If you dont’ vote for Obama you’re
a racist
unenlightened
stupid
I guess he does add new insult
evil
The truth is he is projecting his fears of a woman having such power.
I stopped listening to him years ago. He’s a windbag.
Windbag? He’s irrelevant. He -like Oprah- should stick to meta-physics and “feel-good” messages. One more idiot I will never listen to again. The moment you cross the line and go into politics you cross the line and open yourself to attack. Metaphysics and feel-good messages are not meant to convert followers to fascism or marxism or any other frikking “ISM”. I’m so over Hollywood I may never watch another movie or tv-show again unless it stars Angelina Jolie’s father.
Felix
I hope you’re not saying that everyone into alternative spirituality is like Oprah or Chopra???
I’m deeply involved in metaphysical teachings – but I think Chopra’s fame went to his head a long time ago. He’s now speaking from ego not enlightenment. And, he sure doesn’t speak any truth I hold dear!
Folks, let’s not become one of them (Obots) by using sweeping generalizations and Hitler comments. That lingo doesn’t serve us.
Here are some truths that I do hold:
1) Hillary won – and my research proved it!
Since the ultimate goal is Hillary 2012, and it will not happen if Obama is elected in 2008, then vote MAC/Palin.
2) Barack was aided from the get-go by a PC DNC and by a swooning MSM that has never revealed the truth about some of his shadier dealings
3) Obama is not qualified to be POTUS. He simply doesn’t have the experience.
4) Sarah Palin doesn’t hold many of my beliefs. But she is more experienced than Obama. And, she/McCain will have a Dem controlled Congress to deal with so they can’t push any social agenda they want to … that’s why we have checks and balances built into our system.
5) Soon enough, voters will have their say and I don’t think they’re as stupid, and God/gun clinging as the present far-left of the Dem Party believes.
6) Beyond any other goal: HILLARY 2012!!!
7) If Obama is elected, then Hillary 2012 will not happen … because she’s too loyal a Democrat to run against him. And, truth told, by 2016, her chances of being elected POTUS will be greatly diminished.
Lastly, as I said above, Palin does not hold many of my more socially liberal beliefs … but I could NEVER vote for someone that I believe is basically dishonest at his/her core. And, seeing what I have seen of Obama’s campaign tactics in this election cycle, I simply can not condone that and blindly support it by giving that man my vote!
There has to be a certain moral line that should never be crossed even in politics. Obama and his campaign have crossed it – many times and in a multitude of ways.
Thus, at a basic level – when I search my heart, mind and soul … I just can not give that man my vote!
And, honestly that grieves me because as an ardent Democrat, I feel like my Party has deserted me. I bloody well refuse to stay home. And, I do choose to vote Mac/Palin because I believe it gives a very loud clear message to my Party that they best get their shit together … or I’ll keep on casting protest votes!
WHEN A PARTY DESERTS ITS BASE … IT’S TIME FOR THE BASE TO FIGHT FOR THE SOUL OF THE PARTY!
— peniel cronin
peniel-
excellent post.Thanks.
Here, here!
Absolutely right! Totally agree!
Your comment is powerful and I agree whole heartedly.
It’s astounding to see what information has been requested on Sarah Palin when you go to Wasilla, AK’s web site. It’s unbelievable when we know that the MSM has done practically none of this for BO
It’s laughable that BO has been begun running
against Sarah Palin – even sending an army of lawyers to dig up the dirt.
Fantastic comment. I believe that both John McCain and Sarah Palin understand something that Saviour Obama never will— that being President means being President for everyone in the country. And that in turn means holding some partisan instinct in check.
Peniel,
Read my post above.
But I agree that he’s fallen off his own path. This comment from you is spot on:
I totally agree with your comment. there are so many Clinton supporters that I know (mostly female) that are going to vote for Obama. and they don’t know the issues, or are informed about anything; all they know is that they voted for Hillary and now they’re voting for Obama. what ignorance. I’m voting for McCain in this election; democratic congress (hopefully they’ll have a spine this time around)and Hillary will run in 2012. that’s my hope. no obama; no dnc, and no democratic win. obama didn’t care about the Hillary supporters, and is just so self-absorbed in his win to the White House. he stole the primary from Hillary Clinton; and that’s not very nice.
Oh for crying out loud…cut the drama! this is so pathetic. You can ‘prove’ that Hillary won the election. News Flash…she did NOT. Second news flash….the DNC and Howard Dean acted according to the rules, that were written by Hillary’s campaign staff, Harold ickes and Terry McAuliffe. The MSM attacked George Bush as much or more than they have attacked hillary..and, remember, Hillary can take it, right? that’s what she said! She is a fighter. No matter what she or her husband said about Obama, which is now being used by McCain (as we all said it would) in his 527’s to attack the democratic nominee. Why should she care? she can and probably will run in 2012…do you think for one moment Hillary cares about Obama?? ‘Give me a break’ as Bill so aptly said in red-faced bloviating anger.
And Rezko has been investigated, no wrong-doing by Obama. it is only you guys who are so determined to find something corrupt you will dig forever to get at that one missing lie. maybe it isn’t there, okay?
(Let’s see if Bill and Chelsea will be called in to testify in the ongoing trial paul vs clinton – she was excused because she was campaigning-more to come on this).
vote for mccain, you are a republican anyway.
Nancy
Well if it’s all so pathetic and you’re so offended by our comments, why don’t you stick to reading the Huffpost and other more suitable blogs for your apparent persuasion?
Who’s forcing you to read our pathetic remarks?
Oh, that’s right. You’re here specifically to insult those who won’t vote for the Obama, no matter their reasons.
Well, news flash for you: it’s a free country, each owns his/her own vote, each is free to cast it according to their own conscience and you don’t have the power to take away our rights … because we won’t give you that power. Restated, you can’t practice your intimidation tactics here because they won’t work!
If you’re so inclined, insult us more. It’ll just provide greater impetus to go beyond voting and really get involved to defeat Obama … so the rightful winner of the 2008 Democratic primaries – Hillary – can run and win in 2012!
There is nothing “feel good” in his message at all.
Hope? Change? He thinks America is a bad, mean place he needs to save … He only smiles when he is in front of a camera or laughing at one of his own lines. He is a walking mess of what we used to call “negative vibrations.”
Yes, Larry. They are that crazy. It looks like after McCain wins, y’all can start on Hillary’s 2012 campaign.
Let them do what they do best and show their hypocrisy. What is meant for evil will work out for good.
Godspeed.
Wow. I am disappointed in Chopra. I used to respect him. I can’t believe he equates small town values with “petty parochialism.”
Guess what? I may live in a big city right now, but I am from….A SMALL TOWN.
What the @#%$@ are these people smoking?
I hope you’re refering to smoking crack as opposed to weed. Besides being less debilitating than booze, it is also medicinal.
No offense, but I’m getting tired of people knocking the bong, especially since it’s likely the same people bend their elbow now and then.
it also shows a person’s age (imo)
older folks have no clue
younger kids will take advantage of ANYTHING
but my response to Larry’s quote
THEY are as single minded for GLOBAL UNITY
as SOME extreme regressive xenophobics are for closing our borders and returning to the THOUSAND YEAR OLD KOREAN TURTLE KINGDOM
NEITHER is gonna happen but those on the fringes can see NO OTHER place for themselves now that they are hanging out there on the edges like that
both sides SOON slipping off the event horizon
(not soon enough for me Larry)
“Petty parochialism” ??? I don’t even know what that means! Petty comes from French “petit” which means small. Ok, small towns are small. I would’ve expected something deeper from DEEPak Chopra.
So on to “parochialiism”. Let’s assume he isn’t trying to accuse small-towners of sending their kids to parochial schools or anything strictly related to parishes, and pick the generic definition: “narrowly restricted in scope or outlook.” Well you know, it seems to me that in some respects the kool-aid drinkers are amazingly narrow in their scope and outlook. They don’t allow dissenting opinions on their blog sites, for one thing. There are others, of course, which most folks here know.
security moms – parochial? they’re ALL about caring about how this country defends itself. it’s not as if they don’t get globalization or immigration issues either. all part and parcel of being a world citizen.
chopra like oprah dropped their masks, broke the illusion of their iconic status in pop culture by crossing into politics.
What seaboard and big city people need to know about small town America is that it IS petty–BUT JUST AS POLITICS IN BIG CITIES ARE (just not as much money involved). It IS also global. You can’t go to many small towns today without finding immigrants from various countries. (I have a Turkish daughter-in-law living in a small town in Tennessee, and she found another family of Turkish people there.) There are small town people who are into New Age stuff, too.
But small towns are also full of people who, since they all know each other, have to recognize that not everyone thinks the same way on anything, so they tend to find ways to compromise and work together. The elitists who have taken over the party make assumptions about small town people without ever getting out of their “ivory towers,” so to speak, to meet actual small town people. They hang out only with people who have the same points of view.
I moved to a small town because of the closeness of the community. I’m done with large metropolitan areas.
I read its easier to survive nuclear attack in a small town, is that true?
Holy Mother Of Sweet Potatoes! I am a lefty and I know that you must respect other people’s values and cast them in a larger light. You move them into your column by respecting them, their needs and showing them how your initiatives serve them – even when it seems counter-intuitive.
Maybe this is just red meat for the troops knowing that they have already lost the battle – I don’t know. But this is one of the most self-serving, bone-headed pieces I’ve ever read. Fatuous. Stinky. Insincere. Smarmy.
Disgusting.
verrry reminiscent of “Deep Thought” on SNL
Deeprock Charlatan is writing political analysis? Isn’t he a huckster of snake oil?
http://store.chopra.com/showitems.asp?deptcode1=594
And I imagine the Huffies are snorting up his uninformed information like so much koolaid.
They snort powdered koolaid now? Euwee!
Yes. similar to their messiah/osama, they snort powders.
Yeah, he and Rielle Hunter have a lot in common. Deepak’s just better at marketing.
You mean was better. He just pissed off for all eternity millions of Americans by sticking his proboscis into the election.
A lot of new age gurus are trying to sell Obama as the “enlightened one” as part of their overall marketing that we are going through this “great shift” to prepare for 2012. It plays into the whole meme of The Secret and this idea that there are a certain number of people in America who are “more enlightened” than the rest.
I kind of feel, actually, that if things are going to shift in 2012 (which I doubt) that it’s fitting that we finish off the Piscean Age with four more years of Republicans, THEN switch to Democrats (i.e., HILLARY) in 2012 to mark the Aquarian Age.
If, er, you believe in that a date is THAT important.
Sounds great. I’ll take that over the Obama-screws-us-up-the-ass age any day!
also
12/21/12
another END OF AGES
according to the Maya
well maybe not so fast – lol
I’d like Barry a LOT better if he’d admit to believing in Karma!!
at least he MIGHT act humble
and the fact DEEPHOCK would put that OUT THERE means he’s now got his OWN Karma to pay for
we’ll see how much TRUTH comes to light and how DEEP it burns
don’t the TEACHERS get JUDGED more HARSHLY in the end????
I think I read that somewhere
MedusaPumaBarracuda-
I suspect Oprah is calling in her chips.
Keep an eye out to see what other ‘new age’ pundits start coming out of the woodworks to support Sen Obama.
It seems that Mr Chopra has come to the conclusion that staying friends with Oprah guarantees a nice continued future income stream for you -no matter what you are selling…
So electing Vlad Putin and Achmadinejad’s candidate would be a brilliant first step toward repairing our reputation abroad?
Actually, I prefer to elect the guy that the Poles and Czechs like. I’m gonna guess that’s McCain.
Really? In her speech?
In her speech she did not say a WORD about “family values”, nor about “abortion”. Mr Chopra need a class in basic reading comprehension.
Deepak Chopra should have stuck to sharing the secrets of the universe for profit.
Really? In her speech?
In her speech she did not say a WORD about “family values”, nor about “abortion”. Mr Chopra needs a class in basic reading comprehension.
“Democrats under the leadership of Howard Dean and Obama appear poised to commit suicide.” If only we could be so lucky. The world would be better for it, and I think I remember saying that about the other dumbass that now occupies the oval office.
I was going to vote for Hillary and then all democrate for the rest of the ticket. Then after what happen with the DNC; I decided to vote for McCain and democrats for the rest of the ticket;but the Obama/DNC/Democrats/Media have just really disgusted me with the way they treated Palin; that now I’m voting Republican all the way.
I wonder how many other’s will be doing the same thing?
I am voting straight Republican, too now that I see my downticket Dems are now koolaid drinkers.
Throw all the tainted bums O U T!
After the sham roll call vote at the Pod Dem convention in which my state CA chose to “pass” on the proceedings, thereby denying HRC her 444 state delegates, my husband and I decided to vote Republican down ticket. We had already decided in February to cast a vote for McCain.
I’m glad that the Repubs are taking back their Party from the fascist neo-cons. Sadly, the Dems have decided to give us the Left’s version of GWB.
All this said, I woke up today very pissed off that I would be voting Republican this election. The Pod Dems are denying so many of us the experiencing of a lifetime in voting for and electing the most qualified and talented presidential candidate this country has to offer—Hillary R. Clinton!
I’m with you. I decided to vote straight GOP when they gave Michelle a spot at the convention. I’m surprised Farrakhan wasn’t there for the invocation.
Yep me too.. my feelings exactly!
“Is the far left really this crazy?”
Ding, ding, ding, I know the answer to that!
Yes, why yes they are. We just didn’t see it all these years due to our phobia of the far right.
If there is any lesson I learned from all the horror shows of this year it is that the middle is the answer.
Your assessment is perfectamundo! We need the middle/moderates to save America from itself.
President Clinton and Senator Clinton have know this all along, and have based their national political lives in trying to bring this country to the center.
What Karen said, because it bears repeating:
“If there is any lesson I learned from all the horror shows of this year it is that the middle is the answer.”
When all was said and done, this was the year that I found out I had as much of a distaste for the far left as I did for the far right. Of the whole bunch, all four of ‘em, McCain’s probably the closest to a centrist that we’ve got this year.
After reading the Seattle Times this morning (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008163431_palin070.html), I’m busy reminding myself, “It’s a means to an end. We’ll still have the Congress. And Hillary will have fun running against this record in 2012.”
And now you understand exactly why I’ve been so adamant about thanking all of you PUMA’s for helping to give me my party back. John McCain will NOT always do what you want him to do, but he often will, just as I believe that if Hillary had been president, she often would have done things I believed in, but not always.
The middle. McCain will bring that.
Thank you all…
Patrick
he hasn’t won yet but yes that’s nice someone SHOULD THANK US!!!
thank us for not drinking the poison cup or biting the poison apple with the REST of our former D’s buddies?
you are welcome
(we know what this will cost us as well and it’s still breaking some of our hearts) i know mine still is broken
Yes, and that is why we were all Clinton centrists.
Moderation in all things, Deepak.
Bellevue-NW-Voter
thanks very much for this excellent link
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008163431_palin070.html
excellent article-describes firings, book bannings, etc…good insight into how Palin runs things and how she overcame some of the challenges that could have crushed others…
yawn.
I get kind of confused when people starts talking about the far left and when people say Obama is the most liberal democrat. I can’t even tell if he is a democrat or republican truthfully. I think he is only a democrat since the day he was told he was going to be made POTUS and he and the powers that be figured that the democrats would easily win this year. Otherwise we really have no idea if Obama is far left or far right or even anywhere in American politics!
The best way to arrange the spectrum is to think in terms of collectivism (left) vs individuality(right)… and the two ends don’t meet.
Other people think of a circle where in the front you have freedom and in the back you have tyranny.
I prefer the first way.. because if the Right is for individuality , then how could Far Right be some sort of dictatorship? It’s not.. it’s anarchy.
And then on the Left,.. Marxism is to the Far Left because it’s collectivist as well as dictatorial.
I think Obama is a closet Marxist.
It doesn’t matter, hardly anyone outside of NY, CA, MA probably reads the Huffngton POst
MI here.. I read it, that is used to, it just makes me puke, now!
BO did not want to count my vote in Jan.; I’ll be damned if he’ll get it in Nov.
Mac/Palin08
PUMA
HRC2012
Too bad Chopra is not trained in the rigors of psychoanalysis. and too bad this chopra did not understand her speech.
political hacks are not only predictable; they are hopelessly vacuous.
Chopra as a social psychologist is a laugh. Like Erik Von Daaniken is a religious historian (wrote the original “gods were space aliens” books). What kind of person is against family values and lack of urbanization?
Deepak, psst, hate to tell you, but even The One is admitting that Iraq is going pretty well. Certainly not total victory, but massively improved to the extent that the “failed war” thing is kinda out…well, if you want any actual informed people to take you seriously.
His target audience is not informed except where the latest sales on cheetos and koolaid are at.
Chopra is an idiot.
No, really. He’s an freaking idiot.
Gov. Palin’s state borders foreign countries. Oil and gas are international commodities.
I doubt she’s as ignorant of foreign affairs as Chopra would like to believe.
Harry Truman came from a small town in Missouri.
Bill Clinton came from a small town in Arkansas.
Basically, he’s saying anyone from a small town should not get anywhere near the WH. He does realize that includes Democratic Presidents, doesn’t he?
I’m sure the GOP will be glad to point these things out.
Don’t these woo-woo people realize that they lose money every time they stick their noses into politics? Oh, that’s right, he’s been on Oprah’s show so he already has more money than God.
Uggg… this crap is utterly sickening.
I think they don’t realize that Americans don’t like “hate” whether it’s far-left hate or far-right hate.
deepac may find his books sales fall off as he loses credibility. many independents don’t like this trash. citizen of the world my buxx! more like hard core chicago political hack, deep!
Larry,
Thanks for going to that website I shall not name. I can no longer click on it but with the list of ‘objections’ to Sarah Palin listed, I will never do so. I sure hope small town people such as myself come forth with a resounding, devastating, ubiquitous defeat of BHO and his cronies.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
Well, I wasn’t in Denver, so I dunno about the mood there, and I think all of us would agree BO has snatched a dem defeat from the jaws of victory,
but just where does the author get off suggesting Obama is brighter and more articulate than Bill Clinton?
That line of the article has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read all season. Did you ever hear Bill Clinton um and ah as much as Obama? Or say less of substance in any kind of answer to a policy question? Does he think anything’s above his pay grade? Did he have to have questions asked of Hillary first to know how he should answer them? Hmm . . . Harvard Law Review editor not by grades, but by an essay (and who are we kiddin’, skin color), and with nothin’ written as that editor, versus a Rhodes scholar? Puh-leez.
Amazing articles…Thanks.
Wow. Deepak is having too many whirled visions. Those statements should be used in a h.s. class for teaching critical thinking–the illogicities are stunning. I thought Deepak had a better brain than that. For one who preaches kindness and resonance with one’s fellow human, Deepak, needs to do some more meditating.
Exactly. His is far from the first, but I am increasingly amazed and stunned, by previously respected people willing to give up all credibility as intellegent, compassionate, reasoning beings in their fight to win Obama the presidency. Middle America – the great fly over or drive through area that most of have our roots in, are not lacking in understanding or memory capabilities. When this election is over the disrespecting words and video will still be around, emitting a bad odor that even the Obama fans won’t want to be around.
YES!! (Duh)
Ah, the “righteousness” of the left! Amazing….I thought that this was why they demonized the ‘right’
I think it is all the narcissism – all they can see is themselves in the mirror…
Wow…..denial isn’t just a river in egypt.
Clinton was not a good president with a fatal flaw of being too into the ladies. He was a horrible president that was forced to do a good job by a republican controlled congress.
First of all, no one cared about the consentual sex he had outside his marriage. Sure we clucked our tongues at it but it’s irrelevant to his job. No. What we had a problem with was the rapes he engaged in and got away with. Bill Clinton is a RAPIST. He FORCED himself on women. Rapist in the white house is a problem. The lowest point was when we bombed iraq to distract from his sex scandal. Don’t get me wrong, bombing iraq was the right thing to do. But for the wrong reason. When he no longer needed a distraction, he lost interest. That was a huge national security problem.
The real issue with Clinton though was how he disabled our nation’s security apparatus which resulted in 911. A suspicious person would think he did it on purpose and intended it to happen. Just like Carter did what he did on purpose to enable the islamic revolution out of sheer hatred of jews (something that his behavior since then has revealed time and time again).
Then there is the little matter of selling presidential pardons to criminal scum and terrorists.
Oh yeah, the 40 or so odd people who have died under mysterious and suspicious circumstances who happened to be in Clinton’s way.
Obama is scum. An obvious terrorist infiltrator into our government and it really says something that the democrats are aiding and abetting him.
But don’t for one second think that people have forgotten about the corruption and evil under Clinton. And what it means.
As a republican who voted For Clinton, Bush II and wrote in McCain, I call this ‘pot calling kettle black’ logic.
It is exactly THIS kind of partisan insanity that led the DNC to nominate Obama and led to my party disintegrating into disarray (which led to the horror of the ‘06 election and the coming of Pelosi!!!).
Seriously, this is not a well thought out post at all.
Sorry, that came across as harsh.
Sincerely,
Patrick
“Wow…..denial isn’t just a river in egypt.” Evidently it’s now a spa in LaJolla.
please delete this trash…it’s the kind of thing that makes me embarrassed to admit I once considered myself a republican.
I agree. The level of illiteracy displayed in the post screams “twelve year old boy who listens to Rush Limbaugh religiously.” Bill Clinton is a Rapist, huh? Fuck off, jerk.
dude…seriously…check your meds.
Is the Republican kool-aid as good as the Obama kind? I believe Free Republic is the preferred online lunatic asylum for your kind. buh-bye.
Wow. Maybe you should try some of Deepak’s calming oil.
You’re at the wrong site for that crap. We love the Big Dawg here.
anonymous-
“The real issue with Clinton though was how he disabled our nation’s security apparatus which resulted in 911″
Why do you say that?
Then please explain to me why Sen Obama has chosen Dr Susan Rice to be one of his major foreign policy advisors-presently working under Sen Obama’s Major foreign policy advisor Z Brzezinski?
Dr Susan Rice has been accused of being a MAJOR reason why Osama Bin Laden was able to carry out terror attacks on 9/11. She convinced US govt not to accept Sudan offer to turn over Bin Laden to US in 1997 despite convincing arguments to the contrary provided to her by other US and foreign officials friendly to the US. .
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2002/01/osama200201
The osama Files, January 2002, David Rose
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0144,gould,29537,1.html
“Thanks But No Thanks-How the U.S. Missed a Chance to Get Bin Laden”
by Jennifer Gould, The Village Voice, 10/30/01
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=omar_al-bashir
Oh…btw, why do you support Sen Obama?
Here is why I do not support Sen obma for president…
http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_Obama_Craze_Count_Me_Out_5413.html
Beyondchron.org, The Obama Craze: Count Me out ” by Matt Gonzalez 2/27/08
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/26/politics/main3876941.shtml
CBS News 2/26/08 Does Obama’s Record Back His Rhetoric? CBSNews.com Reports: Democratic Frontrunner Promises To Bring Unity, But Work In Senate Limited Mostly To “Midrange Issues” “Some insight into Barrack”s domestic & int”l oppositions How difficult was it to write & pass some of the legislation he is getting credit for- what REAL value did bill have for citizens?
Sen Obama has been GIVEN the nomination-he did not earn it…
oh man, I did not know this! And Susan Rice is Soetoro’s advisor?
And Wright accused America of bringing on 911? And barky sat in his church and heard this? And Michelle called Bill “whitey”?
Holy shit! more national security implications that are profoundly dangerous for America.
Thank you for the MUST READ links!
Your post is so full of bullshit I don’t know where to start–so I won’t. Go away troll.
Cue *Twilight Zone* theme.
“He [Obambi] is calling for us to reach for our higher selves.”
By smearing the Clintons as race-baiting liars Mr. Chopra?
I don’t think so.
In throngs of supporters expressing their virulent hatred of women – a hatred sanctioned by Mr. Obama?
There is your “shadow” Mr. Chopra. And this man is known for his insight?
Chopra is a fucking idiot.
Very disappointed in Chopra. Something strange going on beginning with his PBS special talking about Buddha awareness and wearing those distracting twinkly rhinestone glasses. I guess I missed his point.
Deepak where did you go? The man I remember spoke about not making these types of judgments of others. Believing your own press? If I must make a call (not an enlightened one, of course) I’d say that expressing that egotistical claptrap is what’s not veeeedy high.
I don’t know how Deepak runs his organization but certainly my connection with the tradition from whence he came was rampant with sexism and discrimination. All passed off as something in the nature of “you’re just not enlightened enough to understand” should you question the ethics of the branding of “Enlightenment”. And how do you become enlightened? By being a millionaire. Then you can buy as many courses and be blessed with as many “titles” as you need to convince yourself that you are in God Consciousness.
Deepak is still an East Indian immersed in the caste system of his birthplace. Here we call it culture war…and we’re not going to imitate India, Deepak.
Oh, and guys? I feel your pain…I come from a family of non-religious fiscal conservatives. folks like us felt at home in the GOP for a long time. throughout the Reagan administration the religious nuts worked diligently to take over the GOP. we watched the idiotic pursuit of the Clintons with incredulity and chagrin for the full 8 years. I supported Ralph Nader in 2000 after the nuts beat McCain for the GOP nomination. I love Tipper Gore but Al always rubbed me the wrong way.
McCain’s victory this time may show the possibility that the fire-breathing Discovery Institute type freaks have lost their stranglehold on the GOP. I’m cautiously optimistic at this point.
I think the DNC has a shot at not having to wander in the wilderness (and bear the shame of a GW Bush presidency) for as long if Obama goes down to stunning defeat this time.
If the far left nuts just double down and nominate another fringe candidate next time (like the GOP did after the 8 years of Clinton’s admin) hopefully the GOP primary voters will be smart enough to not send some nut out to oppose them.
If they do, hopefully Ralph will run so I can vote for him again!
But really, hopefully both major parties can put the fringe back where they belong so we could have a campaign with two sane, experienced, decent people who would compete for our votes on the basis of their ability to explain how their plans are best for America.
Why do these people enjoy bashing us “gun-toting, bible-clinging”, working class people??? We may boast a college in this town, but everyone I know owns a gun for hunting, we’ve got churches (haven’t done a count on how many), and we are working class people out here! I haven’t come across anyone living here that’s in “denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism”. People just want to work so they can support their families and have food and a roof over their heads! Everyone wants to see the USA continue as a world leader! Not become isolationists! The only people who seem to be ones who “throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology” are the Obama supporters!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
HILLARY 2012
OBAMA – NEVER EVER EVER EVER!! AND NOT YOU EITHER CHOPRA (I’VE NEVER BOUGHT ONE OF YOUR BOOKS AND I DEFINITELY WON’T NOW)!!!
Lesser people have always found lesser people to look down on.
As I mentioned in a comment above, a lot of new age gurus have jumped on the Obama bandwagon and have projected onto him the idea that he’s part of an “enlightened” movement sweeping the globe in preparation for 2012. These are the same folks who made millions peddling “The Secret,” who were surfing the wave of “What the Bleep Do I Know”? and who benefit from the idea that somehow there are a few chosen enlightened people who are “ascending” as we head towards 2012.
I don’t think they’ve actually done any homework on Obama. They just saw “liberal” vs. “Bush” and saw Obama got a lot of support early on, and projected that he must be part of this new age wave.
I believe I even heard Eckhart Tolle say that Obama was “enlightened” – but I can’t attribute the source, so I can’t say for sure it is true. Bottom line – this is something that’s been spread around the new age circles as these folks grasp desperately onto the idea that they are new, better and different than everyone else.
I actually consider myself to be new age but I have let go of my superiority complex and I have just as much respect for people who have a deep Christian faith. I was raised Christian so that probably helps. A lot of these new age people have been born and bred to hate traditional people and were never a Midwest Christian like I was.
It is so icky to even think of the possibility of Eckhart Tolle saying that. I would be horrified. Ugh. So many people whose opinions I used to respect I now think have gone off the deep end (friends, family, writers . . . ).
Yeah, I was disappointed to hear that about Eckhart too. But remember, he just did this huge thing with Oprah and so he’s probably bought into Oprah’s kool-aid.
Yeah, the GREEN kind.
Whose Eckhart Tolle?
It’s just struck me how right you are . . .
Obama may have the figure of an Enlightened One, but the truth of him is something like that of a false guru, or the creepy head of a cult, or the snake oil salesman.
This may be a useful perspective for processing the grief that accompanies my new political schism from many friends and family.
Hillary or Bust: How nice to hear from someone who has been getting the same messages. I’ve practiced meditation twice a day for 39 years (and…sigh…not enlightened yet) and although I opted out of the formal TM organization (the same one that brought Deepak to prominence) a long time ago, I do hear from people who are still very much a part of it. BTW, love the system of meditation but the organization built around it has gone looneytunes…and don’t they all eventually?
The general belief is that the world is emerging from Kaliyuga, or darkness, ignorance. One (barely) old acquaintance is a “Jotish” Astrologer. According to her reading of Barry’s chart, he is a guru. Well, I say very fine to that. But maybe the Guru should go find a cave and seek self knowledge. We don’t need a Guru in the WH. Much as I appreciate my old teacher giving me the tool of meditation, I wouldn’t vote for him, if he were still living, for POTUS.
How did she read Obama’s chart when his birthdate and time is questionable at best? Who knows what day he was actually born, let alone the hour. Astrologer Bob Marks read Obama’s chart and thought Obama possessed qualities similar to Hilter and despots. It’s all moot to me until Obama’s birthday is validated.
Yeah, I agree. I’ll have to ask her where she got her dates, times. Not that I’m all into that myself. It’s usually a source of amusement to me but I don’t have any strong feelings that it’s dangerous or any of that. Some of my Christian friends feel otherwise but I think that’s talking it too seriously. I’m not the re-born kind of Christian just the usual non-organized religion kind…tho I do like listening to Joel Osteen. I kinda like that the old style preachers are threatened by his message of positivity. But then, the Baptist’s Hell, Fire and Brimstone didn’t go far with me. Can’t stand that stuff.
Don’t get upset. Like Obama, these left wing radical THUGS believe this stuff about other people that are not like them. They are RACIST BIGOTS. They call people NAZIs who disagree with anything they believe is true.
Well, let them burn in hell and fall flat on their face when their profit LOOSES in Nov-08.
PUMA 2008!
And now, Bo just subscribed to trickle down economics
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/obama-throws-progressive-taxation-under-the-bus-trickle-down/
A flip-flop? Ooooo. What a surprise. Maybe he was influenced by Oprah and Deepak not to tax their millionaire butts.
Or maybe he just realized he’d be cutting his own tax break…
Dead on, Patrick!
Stuff like this should absolutely cure people of thinking just because someone writes books or appears on tv he or she is smarter or more gifted than anyone else.
Someone smarter or more educated would realize “there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in [his] philosophy.”
Using stereotypes to define people only means you haven’t bothered to understand them any more.
Fools.
The more time they spend attacking Palin, the bigger their loss will be in November. I am so glad the trolls are helping with that. She is going to provide another big wallop in her upcoming ABC interview I am sure.
Choosing her as a running mate, I have to say, was absolutely brilliant. Who knew McCain was so interesting?
The republicans now have control of the engagement, so to speak. I predict they will keep Palin front and center for at least another week, hopefully until about the 20th. Obama will help the republicans by sending Hillary and friends to campaign for him. As long as it isn’t Obama people are talking about, that benefits the republicans.
I would think the GOP’s main barrage will begin at the end of the month. Such fun. Why would any watch sports when politics is so much more interesting?
BTW I find it immensely intriguing that Obama hasn’t adapted well to running against a republican. As far as I can tell, he is still trotting out the same tired crap he did during the primary. Just another thing Hillary was doing way-back-when that his team failed to heed the lesson on. What an incredible putz Obama is. Hope the latte crowd can think of eco-friendly ways to re-use their Obama campaign memorabilia when this is all done.
I agree…and they are not dealing w Hillary now who pretty much had her hands tied and no one from her own party helped her. But Palin…oh…they are in for a big suprise! I am stocking up on popcorn.
Haven’t you heard – Hillary isn’t playing nice!
http://themountainsage.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/bravo-hillary-bravoclinton-turns-down-hatchet-job/
Obama’s default mode during the primaries was misogyny, although playing the race card came in handy too. After HRC dropped out and before Palin, Obama was at a loss as to how to campaign because he was facing a male opponent. But as soon as Palin came into the picture, Obama and his campaign regrouped quickly via their misogynist default mode.
Americans are now seeing that Obama’s entire campaign has been built on house of cards, which will crumble to a pulp come November.
Once upon a time I used to like Deeprak Chopra, before he decided he was some kind of mystical expert of everything.
He needs to reread his copy of the Secret
these non-judgmental types are sure full of lots of judgments
This is yet another example of why losing this election would be THE single best thing that could happen to the Democratic Party. Your party needs an electoral enema to flush out the accumulated turds like Pelosi, Dean, Brazille, Reid, Michael Moore, George Soros, et al. And losing a presidential election to a center/right Republican in this, a year in which EVERYTHING was lined up for an easy Democratic win, would give you the excuse you need to do what needs to be done.
I agree!
A National High Colonic!
Larry,
Much as I respect your talent for analysis, I think you’ve really missed the mark when you refer to Obama as “leftist”. In the primary season, Obama’s positions have consistently been the furthest “right” of any of the Democratic candidates. He voted for the Cheney energy bill, which every other Democratic candidate (as well as John McCain) opposed. He’s not in favor of universal health care. He voted against capping credit card interest rates. He voted for telecom immunity (after falsely promising that he would “filibuster” against it). He rejected public financing. And, of course, he’s a sexist.
He’s just another corporate hack politician, and he’s destroyed the progressive wing of the Democratic Party by co-opting its rhetoric for a quasi-fascistic personality cult with absolutely no discernable policy agenda.
I like Steve Diamond’s use of “authoritarian” to describe Obama and his milieu. Their plans certainly don’t fit into what I would consider liberal.
And Teddy Roosevelt was the first big progressive, wasn’t he? TR is John McCain’s political hero.
just kinda ironic
Agreed. Calling BO a leftist is an insult to leftists everywhere. Actually it’s an insult to anyone who has any core beliefs. Obama is a charlatan, a snake oil salesman, pure and simple. Just like Deepak Chopra.
I think you’re right . . . except I think Obama does actually think he’s lefty and have leftist aims, though he’s going about achieving his aims in the rightiest way possible. Like some other commenter said on some other post (maybe even on another blog?) — wish I could remember the name to attribute this to, and the exact words — he’s so far left on the circle he’s touching the right.
Well, that’s it. Obama’s abandoned his last claim to being a Democrat.
As of today, there’s hardly any difference between Obama and McCain on tax policy:
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/obama-throws-progressive-taxation-under-the-bus-trickle-down/
He’s now:
1) In favor of faith-based social programs, in fact he wants to *expand* them
Against universal health care
2) Against a mental health provision for late-term abortions (which puts him to the right of McCain)
3) In favor of the Cheney energy bill (which put him to the right of McCain)
4) In favor of telecom immunity (which McCain ducked)
5) Against repealing the Bush upper income tax cuts (which I oppose vehemently, even though they have benefited me, because I think they’re bad for the country as a whole)
6) In favor of “the surge” (just like McCain!)
7) Against public campaign financing (which puts him to the right of McCain)
9) In favor of laws requiring parental consent for abortion
Did I miss anything?
He’s still vaguely pro-choice, in a hope-y change-y kind of way. As long as he doesn’t have to say anything too
specific about it.
Remind me again why you think he’s a “progressive”?
I have always believed Oblahblah to be an AA version of Smirky as well as being utterly unfit for the office. There was a post earlier from “D” that demonstrated their similarities. Yours and his only confirm my worst suspicions about this plastic candidate.
Propertius, you are absolutely perspicacious! I agree, Obama has shown himself to be to the right of HRC on all issues. Could this be why Bill Clinton in his convention speech said ambiguously, “Obama is on the Right side of history,” meaning “Right” with a capital “R”?
Exactly right.
propertius,
The Progressives have given him permission to destroy them by endorsing him.
I would never use that term to describe myself.
NEVER!
Small town values–compare with Obama’s aiding and abetting slum lords in big cities.
–Ignorance of world affairs–compare with Obama endorsing and campaigning for his Kenyan cousin who was responsibile for the murder of hundreds of people abroad.
–Family values, what could anyone compare the man with who took his children to a church where they listened to a vulgar cursing preacher preaching hatred and anti American sermons.
–Rigid stand on guns and abortion– throughout Obama’s time in the Illinois legislature there is no evidence of him even trying anything to curb drive-by-shootings. But he did vote yes to kill a bill that would have protected born alive babies who were born alive due to failed abortions.
–Patriotism–Obama turns his back on the American flag and befriends a terrorist who stops on the American flag.
–Reform, Obama’s style of reform is well known “The Chicago Combine”. and he throws everyone under his bus that disagrees with him or who becomes a liability. His allegiance is to himself only.
As an asian myself.. I can tell you..
Chopra imagines himself to be another “oprah”
I have read his crap… he takes books from india.. and “westernizes” them and publishes them here..
he is full of Sh*T… don’t believe me? ask any indian you know.. most indians think of him as an idiot!
Insanity doth ruleth the day!
I agree…
I liked Deepak Chopra way back when… I read some of his earlier (90’s) work. I thought he had an OPEN mind about the diversity of the world and it’s people. But I guess I was wrong… Now I see if you don’t think as he does then you must be small minded, resistant to change and lacking a higher vision. Sounds elitist to me… Wow… LOL… well that’s an eye-opener. Good going Dee, now you sound just like ever other Huffpo bloviator!!
I just completely lost respect for that man. Who would have known?
Sorry all you trolls, I’ll up you one this time! If it were Collin Powell running for the POTUS, I would in NO WAY have my present, urgent and continual feeling to utter the “N” word for your disgusting and vial candidate MR. O. He is, as Jesse Jackson has quoted, just that, a LIAR, CHEAT, THUG and STINKING PIECE OF SHIT from the south side. He will in NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, acquire my acknowledgement that it is HE, the ONE from GOD ALMIGHTLY, quote from MS. PELOSI, to represent the AFRICAN AMERICANS in this country. THIS GUY IS NOT THE “ONE”! He simply foams out his mouth and expects the masses to follow him like the PIED PIPER….NOT ME! GO FOR IT YOU FOOLS!
Hijacker, I agree that BHO is wrong for this country, but please get some help for your “urgent and continual feeling to utter the “N” word.” Fostering such feelings and using the “N” (not saying you did!) does no good in furthering a rational debate about Obama. His skin color has nothing to do with why we object to his nomination. Though how he cynically uses race, is an entire different matter.
This said, I believe in your right to free speech, etc.
Chopra likes BO because they share the same job description. A motivational speaker crossed with a snake oil salesman.
It would really be nice if the Left could at least temporarily refrain from assaulting and insulting the blue-collar Americans whose interests it claims to represent and whose votes it so desperately needs.
Oh, whom am I kidding…
I’m so glad Chopra is able to do our thinking for us. When he has time, perhaps he could tell us how Muslim immigrants in Britain who enforce sharia law are part of his enlightened, global culture, not like those small-town American bigots who want to honor their traditions in their own country.
Hey don’t want to panic any of the folks in the Keys, Miami and Broward, but I was watching the satellite and I notice IKE took a bob to the North, waiting on the update from the National Hurricane Center , but people in those areas please stop and watch IKE very closely NOW.
those elites will never get it. they have never worked in their life, and they found a candidate who has never worked a day in his life. they hate us, and they found a candidate who will destroy us.
Just another thought…..Mr. O can’t even equate with just the smallest pimple on BILL’s ASSHOLE!
An interesting email just showed up in my box.
Ahhh, fine so far.
Ooops. Somehow, I just don’t know if I’m the KIND of committed voter they want speaking on behalf of the Obama campaign. Perhaps, today, I’m not the committed voter they knew?
I had a similar experience with my Mom. I’m AA and volunteered for the Hillary Clinton campaign. My parents also voted for Hillary but later in the primaries became Obama supporters. She asked me if I would be volunteering for the Obama campaign – trying to encourage me to do so. I said “Oh, Mom, I can’t speak for Obama. I’m just not into him and I’m sure you can hear it in my voice. I know too much about him and really wish that he could have brought the change he talks about to his own Chicago district or at least have SOMEthing to show that illustrates his talking points.”
That was just the tip of the ice-berg.
Interesting thing is that she told me she would be changing her party to Independent. I think that’s her way of protesting the poor judgement and behavior exhibited during the primaries. I then told her, “That’s funny. I’ll be changing mine to Independent too.”
I really liked the comment about now living in an urban area but growing up in a small town. I just returned from my 50th high school class reunion in a small town in Indiana. I do not regret moving away from that small town but I will be eternally grateful that I had that small town experience. I don’t think you can really embrace the global community if you don’t have some roots in a small community somewhere, even if its a neighborhood in a big city. In 1900 95% of our population lived on family farms or in small rural towns. 108 years later, the story is the reverse but that means that most families have generational roots in that past and for most people that family history is not dead or forgotten.
I have lived in Indiana my whole life in Ft Wayne. It was alot small when I was growing up but one of the things I like about it is it still has a small town feel to it.
I think everything is so modernized that people have forgotten how to connect in real relationships, friends, family, etc.
Small towns sure have suffered the brunt of the global market.
I put my faith on a higher power and nowhere else. It has always worked for me.
Seems to me I’ve been seeing a lot of this “small town” meme in the past few days. Comments like most of America doesn’t live in small towns anymore, we need to be global, think of what the rest of the world sees, etc.
I think these must be the new talking points for the week. Bashing Governor Palin’s family didn’t work, so let’s calmly try to convince them that she’s a “redneck” and doesn’t represent a true cross section of America.
The truth is, Barack Obama and Deepak Chopra don’t represent most Americans. And you’d think Chopra would’ve learned from Oprah – stick to what people want to hear from you, and leave the politics alone. I think Hollywood will be a very changed place come November 5th, as many of these mindless celebs lose their appeal to the average American for having supported a failed Obama candidacy. And as LisaB notes, that will be a very good thing.
While it’s certainly true that most Americans don’t live in small towns any more, the people that will decide this election most assuredly do. I can’t believe the arrogant stupidity with which the left wing Dems have been attacking Palin’s small town roots, as if they weren’t already in enough trouble with these people due to “Bittergate”.
Maybe not small towns in the classic sense, but Suburbs. Which are in their own way small towns, and becoming more so every day. I think the average American would not identify with the label small town, but the thoughts are basically the same. They don’t want to be called bitter, they like their guns and religion (or at least the idea of being able to have them), they spend their lives trying to pay off their bills from their kids keeping up with elitist idiots like Obama and Co, and they cannot afford more taxes or higher fuel costs.
And they are most decidedly the people who will be heard come November.
B0YCOTT GENERAL ELECTRIC
White women should boycott Oprah…do not go to her show.
I hate Oprah. She also attended that God Damn America church. Who is Oprah anyway? I know she hates unions, and we know she is really out of touch with Ohio values.
All women and men should boycott Oprah, regardless of color!
Yep! Speaking of BLOVIATORS, this forum is full of them. The CLINTONS were the BEST DEMOCRATS I have personally had the pleasure of VOTING FOR! THEY actually WALKED the WALK and came to the CENTER! DAMN you MR. O, for throwing them BOTH under the bus. Just another example in my life when the EXTREME of one or the other tries to UPSET the applecart, although I personally do not believe it will succeed THIS time around. NICE TRY BIMBO!
BOYCOTT GENERAL ELECTRIC & HOLLYWOOD
shades of McCain and Palin, actally
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h959.html
BOYCOTT GENERAL ELECTRIC, HOLLYWOOD & OPRAH
The Left is about to shoot itself in the foot again. The latest assault is that Palin can’t do an interview, and is hiding from the press. (Never mind that all people newly appointed to a top position go into deep study for a while before being asked to “perform”.) Well, she’s just accepted an interview with Charles Gibson of ABC, who is pretty good. Now, if she nails that interview (as I suspect she will) then the goose gets cooked a little more deeply.
As one of those small town, patriotic, God loving, family values believing citizens (in Michigan) Mr. Chopra speaks so highly of, I just want to say…keep it up you ultra left-wing morons. It’s helping my candidate win the White House! Thank you!
Yes, most americans do live in small towns.
Look at how bush won. He locked up the entire midweast and ohio and florida.
America is still a country built upon the values and work ethic of small-town folks. I live in PA, almost entirely small towns except Pittsburgh,philly erie allentown and lancaster. Thenthe rest are mostly pretty small towns.
Small town America is nostalgic for a lot of us…most of them do have strong individuals and a fair share of quirkiness. I still have warm, fuzzy memories of The Cottage Cafe on Main Street in Van Buren, Arkansas where you could get the best southern lunch anywhere around. A lot of us love to relive those small town values through the fictional Mayberry or Cecily, Alaska or Lake Woebegon or Arkansas as portrayed by Hill and Bill’s friend, Linda Bloodworth Thompson in “Evening Shade”. I love small towns. I’ll bet I’d recognize the people of Wassila right away.
One of my favorite small town movie lines, and a pretty good metaphor for the way I’d like this election to turn out, comes from the parking lot scene in “Fried Green Tomatoes, the scene where two kids cut off Evelyn and steal her parking space, taunting her as they flounce off toward their shopping,
[Whereupon Evelyn revs her engine and rear-ends their newly parked car half a dozen times, shouting,]
That’s especially appropriate.
While I don’t agree with Rush Limbaugh on everything, he’s been saying for years now that the “progressive” left regards average Americans as a bunch of dumb hicks who are incapable of think for themselves. If only they had the same degree of “enlightenment” as their more advantaged leftist betters, the U.S. would magicaly become an utopian society. But until then, the unwashed masses need the elites to make these decisions for them.
If you think you’ve heard this before, you have. It’s called Marxism.
And the democrats claim they are the intelligent bunch? I was a democrat, but now an independent; and I see both sides which has freed me to make an informed, intelligent decision. It’s clear the democrats don’t get it; most of the voters come from small towns; blue collar workers – they connected with the Clintons why? because the Clintons had this keen and special ability to connect with them and respect them. This new undemocratic party has the stupidity to insult them and look down on them – they just don’t get it – they’ll never get their votes by insulting the majority of the voters in this country!!
McCain/Palin
Deepak Chopra is stunningly blind (or cleverly biased and self promoting) in his own narcissism of words. I’m certain he knows very well that he plagiarized the psychological “shadow” thought directly from C. G. Jung who developed and wrote extensively about the “Shadow”. Obama’s own shadow disguised in lies and duplicity are not as Chopra says “calling for us to reach for our higher selves. ” Quite the opposite.
Chopra, misuses Jung in spades. Like Obama, Chopra hides behind a jumble of words. A long commentary by Chopra on Obama’s very dangerous shadow would be far more on target.
Deepak is ignorant and ill-informed. The caustic center of his arguments show his utter misunderstanding of what America is- both as an inspiration to ourselves as Americans, and to many throughout the world.
The thinking of these men and women insist that we lack the ability to grasp his high-minded concepts- we are petty and contemptible.
His view is from the east- and he consorts with intellects in America who swoon over his New Age ideas.
Some of us simply don’t agree with him- because his premise is mistaken. He finds a global community superior to separate nations who work together and sometimes against one another in their own self-interest.
He yearns for Utopia. He wants human nature to be something that it is not. He is a fool.
“He wants human nature to be something that it is not. He is a fool.”
agree
What a weirdo! Deepockets Chopra should know that the world is only a small town writ large. Enlightenment is passe in this time of topsy turvy insanity.
I do disagree with one statement of yours, Larry:
“Let’s face it, if Bill Clinton had kept his pecker in his pants he would have gone down in history as arguably one of the great Presidents of the 20th Century”
I think that he will still be considered one of the best presidents in not only the 20th century, but in all of American history. If he had kept his member in check, he would have been even better and we wouldn’t be dealing with this mess.
I concur with the above comment. There can be no qualification. William Jefferson Clinton, next to only the towering FDR, and the Democrat-claimed Thomas Jefferson, was the finest Democratic President in United States History.
Woodrow Wilson was supremely cerebral in both war and peace, but was also ill and circumspect for much of his second term. Harry Truman was the epitome of “Give ‘em hell!” independence, but was too fercely a Cold Warrior in the aftermath of the Second World War. Andrew Jackson was truly a candidate for the masses, but his racial and martinet prejudices were much, even for his day.
Grover Cleveland was indeed a reformer figure, but his pedestrian pace also led to a GOP Benjamin Harrison interlude. And while JFK (a likely two-term President) was glitz and glamour–owed more to the influence of his wife Jackie–his reign was too brief for any real assessment of long-term merit.
The many one-term Democratic Presidents–including the Nobel Prize winning-Jimmy Carter, a superb former President but while a President no better than middling–offer too little for great historical perspective. LBJ, who had a veritable two-terms by default, was a truly great social legislator, marred indelibly, however, by his reflection in the escalation of the Vietnam War.
Thus FDR remains rightfully the majestic Democratic figure, still in most professional historian polls as second only to Lincoln, and even that is now hotly debated.
And while Ronald Reagan became the honey of the anti-FDR crowd, in and out of the American media, his reign included Iran-Contra (a far more important scandal than the now widely perceived of as silly media-driven “Whitewater and Monica”), Reagan himself began his political thrust as a Screen Actors Guild activist with great reverence for FDR.
But Bill Clinton–here is the ultimate political dynamo. His fluidity of thinking on issues and obvious Rhodes Scholar brilliance–and dazzling political flair with all strata, from the far less privileged to working stiffs to academics to Southern inveterates, makes him the most accessible, consummate political player in the last half of the twentieth century.
Bill Clinton did indeed restore fiscal order and thoughtful diplomacy abroad. And his achievements are all the more remarkable inasmuch as most of his years were punctuated by Right-wing vitriol and intransigence to any and all progressive legislation by way of Clinton.
But he is also the “one that got away,” whose enemies in the media, the Right Wing (in and out of the GOP), Ken Starr and his Inquisition panels and even Congressional Impeachment advocates could not dispose of.
Instead, he overcame and conquered them all. Even Newt Gingrich became so intimidated by Bill Clinton that he openly expressed fear of being his captive audience, so powerful were Bill Clinton’s persuasive skills.
And that fact, alongside the obvious misogyny, is why both the DNC and the media kept back Hillary–although voters were very much on her side. A return of the Clintons in the White House was simply intolerable to their long festering political foes.
Thus, the Oprah Winfrey/Ted and Caroline Kennedy/Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean wing of the Democraic Party triumphed–aided and abetted by the ever Clinton-hating media.
In the end, the only way to stop the return of the Clintons was to “shut down the process,” just as the GOP leaning Supreme Court did in the case of Al Gore versus GWB in Florida in 2000. Thus, “superdelegates” anointed Obama even when virtually every key swing state went for HRC by wide margins and she had won the popular vote, eighteen million strong–more so than any other presidential candidate in the primries in all of United States history.
My own belief is that the United States is now in irreparable collapse–the GWB Bush White House has stripped the country of its fiscal solvency, power and prestige abroad. John McCain, who became a GWB errand boy some time ago, and Sarah Palin, whatever her own persuasive skills, are neither on the side of proper change.
But alas, Barack Obama, even should he prevail, is a much too self-absorbed neophyte to undo all the damage. Too many of his minions are similarly clueless.
Which is why I also believe that the era of Bill and Hillary Clinton will soon enough be widely viewed as America’s last Golden Age.
Excellent post! My only disagreement with you would be the last sentence. I don’t think it was out last Golden Age. We may have more coming if we can reclaim the can-do attitude of our ancestors and eliminate the politics of division. Between the extreme right and their fear mongering and the left and their nanny government, we’ve lost sight of the spirit that survived a dust bowl, depression, and world war in succession. Add the moon landings, winning the Cold War without destroying humanity and the ability is demonstrably there.
similar to his wife, barack obama hates america. he also hates small towns. his wife visited my town before the primary, and all she spewed was hate. that woman is hate. she has the appearance of hate. just look at her.
barack is his wife.
SCARY
I kinda lost respect for Deepak when I saw him sporting Elton John glasses and flashy cowboy boots in front of a crowd of adoring Yuppies seeking a quick route to New Age enlightenment. He’s turned himself into a Western product, just like so many before him.
Roosevelt was elected to the New York state assembly in 1882 and allied himself with the Republican Party’s reform elements. He drew attention for his efforts to investigate the noted financier Jay Gould’s shady dealings. Roosevelt further bucked the conservative leadership by cooperating with the Democratic governor Grover Cleveland and opposing the presidential nomination of James G. Blaine at the Republican convention in 1884.
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In 1889, Roosevelt returned to public life, accepting an appointment to the U.S. Civil Service Commission. This position was a reward for his assistance with the Benjamin Harrison campaign in 1888.
Roosevelt’s energy in combating the spoils system brought attention to the Commission. Reforms of this era included an increase in the number of government jobs subject to competitive examinations, a revision of the those examinations, and the opening of many positions to female applicants. Roosevelt’s service was appreciated by the next president, his friend Cleveland, and he was reappointed to another term.
In 1895, Roosevelt became Police Commissioner of New York City. His efforts to end corruption were not very successful, but he gained widespread public popularity by conducting nighttime patrols of the city to ensure that the police were doing their jobs. Roosevelt drew the ire of the Tammany Hall and many German immigrants by enforcing an often ignored law requiring the closure of beer halls on Sundays.
In 1896, Roosevelt campaigned vigorously for the Republican nominee, William McKinley, and pressed for an appointment after the election victory. The new president thought Roosevelt was a brash young man, but nevertheless nominated him to be the assistant secretary of the Navy. In his new position, he pressed hard for stronger action against Spain for thwarting the Cuban drive for independence. At this time, he also expressed his dedication to keep European powers out of active involvement in the Western Hemisphere (see Monroe Doctrine) and his conviction that stronger nations must bestow the benefits of their civilization upon the weaker nations (see Manifest Destiny). As a disciple of Alfred Thayer Mahan, Roosevelt also advocated a strong navy and overseas bases.
In May 1898, after war against Spain had been declared, Roosevelt resigned as assistant secretary and joined a volunteer cavalry unit under Colonel Leonard Wood. His exploits with the Rough Riders in Cuba were reported in the press, which made him a national celebrity. Roosevelt regarded his experiences in combat as the high point of his life.
Capitalizing on his popularity, Roosevelt ran for governor of New York. Republican leaders knew of his reform tendencies, but pushed his nomination as a means to overcome a recent history of corruption on the state level.
In November 1898, Roosevelt was elected by a narrow margin. He showed typical vigor in Albany and, as feared, alienated political boss Thomas Platt by pushing through a new tax on corporate franchises. His efforts at moderate reforms included a number of conservation measures and improvements in public education.
In 1900, Platt and other New York Republicans urged President McKinley to take Roosevelt as his running mate; the previous vice president had died in office and Platt was anxious to be rid of the hard-charging governor.
Roosevelt was initially reluctant, but quickly realized that he had no base in the Republican Party and that his only hope for the presidency would come by exposure on a national ticket. He accepted the offer of the nomination and campaigned tirelessly for the ticket, a distinct contrast to the homebound McKinley.
Roosevelt’s tenure as vice-president was cut short by McKinley’s asassination in September 1901. Mark Hanna lamented that “that damned cowboy is president now,” giving expression to the fears of many old line Republicans.
During his first term, Roosevelt earned a reputation for trust-busting, but his inclination was to seek regulation of the giants, not their destruction. He also won widespread approval for forcing arbitration upon a reluctant management during the coal strike of 1902. Roosevelt took tentative steps toward addressing the concerns of farmers and other small shippers who believed the railroads were treating them unfairly.
In 1904, Roosevelt’s main challenger for the Republican nomination, Hanna, died before the convention, clearing the path for the incumbent. He campaigned on the merits of his “square deal” for all of the American people and was an easy victor in November. In a move that he later regretted, Roosevelt announced that he would not seek the nomination in 1908; in effect, he labeled himself a lame duck.
Domestic progress was muted during Roosevelt’s second term. Congress had tired of his activism and resisted many of his proposals. Major progress was made toward conserving the nation’s resources, but the president was blamed by his critics for contributing to the onset of the Panic of 1907.
Roosevelt was extremely active in foreign affairs, particularly in his first administration. He regarded the quest for the Panama Canal as his greatest achievement, but was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for his services in settling the Russo-Japanese War.
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h959.html
fluffy bunny-thanks-this is very interesting…
thanks, I was worried that I would get scolded for posting something so long.
I’m just disgusted to see Obamaites claim the “progressive” mantle.
I love the quote attributed to Teddy Roosevelt’s daughter, Alice, who said at a White House dinner party, “If you don’t have anything nice to say about anyone, come over here and sit my me.” She was quite the wit apparently and a favorite on the Washington social scene.
Great quote!
–Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism. (To some, small town values means loving your neighbors and working together when someone needs help. Not merely an “it’s all about me” way of life.)
–Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad. (Or a sense that Americans don’t feel the need to apologize to the rest of the world for being what it is–a country that the citizens of many parts of the world are clamoring to get into.)
–Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded. (Some people think of family values as honoring their parents in old age and teaching their children the difference between right and wrong–and probably explaining Ludacris.)
–Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree. (Those bitter, small-towners REALLY want to cling to their guns now that big brother is seemingly taking over.)
–Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war. (Or realizing that Freedom is precious and priceless and Americans are grateful to those that have fought to give them that right.)
–”Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology. (Does ideology equate with special interests who kick back a little piece of the pie?)
McCain Camp ‘Rescues’ Flags From Obama Rally
(FROM: Fox News) Inevitably, after the GOP makes this news well known in an advertisement or mention at a campaign stop, we’re going to hear cries of “dissent IS patriotic” and “you can’t question his patriotism!” from the left. Obama himself was quoted on this, stating “what they’re really saying is ‘we’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, ‘Maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’” Should this stuff brought forth by Philip Berg pan out, we’ll hear the same cries. My question is — why can’t anyone question this man’s love of country? He proclaims himself a “Citizen of the World” in front of 200,000 concertgoers in Berlin, and aspires to re-create America in the image of western Europe. There’s the issue with the flag pin, with his wife’s sudden pride in the country, with his decision not to have even a private moment with injured soldiers in Germany. There’s the 20 years spent in the pews at Trinity United. There’s the bread-breaking and brainstorming with Bill Ayers. Why can’t we question his patriotism? Why can’t this election be about issues AND character? Character, after all, lends itself to competent leadership and judgment.
Bob Novak: My Brain Tumor
(FROM: Creators Syndicate) Bob Novak is one heck of a journalist and political mind, and I wish him the very best. I’m glad to see that he is back behind his typewriter. Four things crossed my mind while reading the piece: (1) Good on Teddy Kennedy and his wife for putting Novak in touch with a good doctor, (2) I wonder how much of Novak’s immediate treatment–or Kennedy’s, for that matter–would be possible with the advent of socialized medicine, (3) Valerie Plame and her husband are disgusting examples of the liberal bitterness I pondered a few months back in Conservatives are from Mars, Liberals are from Uranus, and (4) I hope Novak knocked on wood after mentioning “modification of the First Amendment,” as a Barack Obama presidency could very well mean the return of the Fairness Doctrine.
Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away’
(FROM: The Wall Street Journal) Here’s what he had to say on Friday in a small Pennsylvania town:
If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it. Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress. This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.
Sure thing, Barry. Just like you were going to take public financing, until you didn’t. Just like you opposed offshore drilling, until you supported it. Just like you said that the government shouldn’t crack down on businesses which hire illegal immigrants, until you said they should. Just like you told Tim Russert that you would serve out your full six-year term in the Senate and put any presidential aspirations on hold until you had more experience, and look how that turned out. I trust you with the Second Amendment about as much as I trust Bill Clinton with my wife.
Is Oprah Biased? Host Won’t Interview Palin
(FROM: ABC News) Since when is Oprah a journalist? Since when is The Oprah Winfrey Show a news program? She’s Oprah Winfrey, not Katie Couric — back off! Sure, I’d love to see Sarah Palin on her program, out there for a world of voting women to see. Yes, I guarantee that Palin would be a gigantic ratings draw for Oprah’s show. Of course, I’d love for the most powerful woman on television to exhibit basic fairness. But she doesn’t have to. Her decision is her decision, and she decided to get into bed with Barack Obama; now that her bed is made–apparently with hospital corners given her rigid rejection of Palin until after November 4–she must lie in it. Honestly, with all of the yellow journalism on display during this election cycle, can’t we continue pointing out the bias on the parts of people who and programs which outwardly project the promise of objectivity?
Newt Gingrich: The Happiest Convention
(FROM: Human Events) The former speaker is absolutely right. He’s right about the consequences of Sarah Palin’s excellent performance last Wednesday night, he’s dead-on with regard to his comparison of the scrutiny on Palin and the nomination of Justice Clarence Thomas to the U.S. Supreme Court and, more and more each day, I’m getting the feeling that he might just be right about November.
The Perfect Stranger
(FROM: RealClearPolitics) I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed, nearly two weeks ago, that everybody seemed to endorse but not embrace Barack Obama. I’m glad I’m not the only one startled by the lack of decent, reputable people who have emerged to shed light on Obama’s decent, reputable character. Charles Krauthammer noticed it too, and of course expressed it better than I ever could.
Girl Forced to Marry at Nine Murdered After She Sought Annulment
(FROM: Fox News) So, we hear more about “honor killings” and fundamentalist Islam at work even within an individual family. Why aren’t the women’s rights groups up in arms about this? Where are the feminists, the ones who fight for equal rights for all women?
Obama Slips up on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanopoulos
(FROM: ABC) When John McCain slips up, as all of us do, the media and the left like to remind us of his advancing age, even though his 96-year-old mother, Roberta, could likely beat up Keith Olbermann in a street-fight. When Obama has a verbal gaffe–be it the whole “57 states” thing or misstating his own religion–it’s laughed at, Republicans are chided for giving it a second look, and then we all move on. Regardless, here it is for your viewing pleasure:
Now, I don’t know that Obama is a Muslim. In fact, I certainly doubt it just like I doubt he believes there are 57 states in the U.S. of A, and people must remember that these campaigns are long and tiresome. Still, it makes for good television, and I cannot help but chuckle that Stephanopoulos had to correct him.
http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/september-7-2008-assigned-reading.html
“Girl Forced to Marry at Nine Murdered After She Sought Annulment
(FROM: Fox News) So, we hear more about “honor killings” and fundamentalist Islam at work even within an individual family. Why aren’t the women’s rights groups up in arms about this? Where are the feminists, the ones who fight for equal rights for all women?”
sir, why aren’t you up in arms about this? do you have a mother, wife, daughters,sisters? does this not concern you as a man that women and children are treated this way? Why do you think it is the duty and responsibility of feminists to show their outrage but not men?
And Bob Novak…didn’t he out Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA agent?? I don’t call that good journalism.
Spreading the smear that Obama is a Muslim
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/spreading_the_smear_that_obama.html
Deepak Chopra’s anti-American remarks will hopefully be picked up and played over and over again — to McCain’s advantage. Chopra obviously doesn’t get that we like our small towns, even if we don’t live in them. Our literature and films exalt the values of small towns, including patriotism and family values. Oh,and for Mr. Chopra’s information, guns are BIG with us, too.
Keep talking, Deepak. Maybe Oprah will have you back on her show before the election, although (after banning Palin from her show) you may not have that many viewers.
Stop the Spam! Stop the Hate!
Deepak Chopra physically looks like Satan out of central casting. I don’t understand his folowing.
And David Axelrod does look Hitlerian. Maybe that is why he had Barack speak in Berlin at the Victory Column which was moved to its current location by Adolf.
Down with Obama Bin Biden.
Gallup tracking now has McCain ahead by 3 points and it’s gonna go higher on Monday.
“if Bill Clinton had kept his pecker in his pants he would have gone down in history as arguably one of the great Presidents of the 20th Century. Balanced budgets and prosperity leave a good taste in peoples’ mouths.” Hmm, you’re not referring to Ms. Lewinksi, right?
After starting a virtual company I was lucky enough to move to a small town and couldn’t be happier. We’ve got lots of guns and religion here and trust me; it’s a very safen secure place to raise a family. In fact there is a law on the books (no longer enforced) requiring all adult men to OWN a gun. Well lemetell you what happened when an out of town’er was stupid enough to try to force a woman into her car to do God knows what in a parking lot. She started screaming and two bubba’s in a truck near by heard her and came racing over. They held the would be criminal /rapist at gun point till the police came. End of story. He’s in jail and woman is fine. There are a lot of “blue collar” people that live here. These folks always vote democratic. I can honestly tell you there is not a single person I’ve heard of that is going with Obama. Not one. (They did like Hillary) They think Obama’s anti-American. Also, that guns and religion comment really cut deep. Nothing he could say at this point would change their mind.
I remember a local individual and independent bookseller in my neighborhood, about 15 years ago, was harrassed by Deepok Chopra because she refused to give up her lease when his company wanted to out the bookstore and build a spa there. She went to court, a single woman, and won.
That particular bookstore was just huge and loved by so many. I never respected that airy-fairy, corporate assw*pe again.
btw, this was in CA. too.
I don’t understand the obsession with calling Obama and Pelosi extreme left? Same with Dean — they are no where NEAR far left, any of them. This is not a takeover of the party by the far left but a takeover of the party by centrists who HATE the Clintons.
I agree with all those thankful Hillary’s not the VP. When O! flames out after the truth of his past associations finally becomes known, I don’t want her anywhere near the thug!
You may be right to a certain extent, unfortunately. They seem to embody the worst ideas of both extremes.
Pelosi used to be my congresswoman, and she seemed about as left to me as anyone holding office in Washington. Besides Bernie Saunders. . .
Axelrod? Personality specialist and plagerist.
Remember, “Just words?”…copies
How much time has Mr Chopra spent living in a small American town? My guess is zero. And much time has Barack Obama spent living in small town America? How many small towns has he visited since becoming President? Whoops, I mean since running for President? Zero?
And now these two men are suddenly authorities on small town America. I don’t think so, Deepak. I don’t think so, Barack.
I am sure both of these men have heard of the internet and the communications revolution. Nobody in this country is isolated from the rest of the world unless they want to be. It is fairly easy for anybody to get a taste of life in other parts of the world just by ordering a few videos from Netflix.
If these arrogant politicians and “spiritual” leaders would just get their snooty noses out of the air, they could probably figure out some very meaningful ways to connect to people in small town America not just to communicate their “superior” vision of the world, but maybe even to absorb some of the many virtues they can find there….if they only look.
Such arrogance is mindboggling.
Deepak’s deluded. Governor Palin is succeeding not because she’s appealing to our darker natures, but because she’s appealing to our better angels. She projects an optimistic and inspiring persona of self-confidence and self-reliance, which is a very appealing counter-weight to the nanny state.
Is Europe so enlightenend and we Americans just blind? I think not; I think Europe is a psychologically gloomy, dark, and impotent place. I believe Governor Palin is appealing to a desire for authenticity and leadership, and presenting a powerful alternative for America’s future.
Her appeal is neither Democratic or Republican, but to the American spirit. Who’s the phony creation of Axelrod et al? What is their vision for America? I’m sorry, but it doesn’t look like a better and brighter place. It looks like those slums that Obama abandoned and like throwing 160M at education, money which had NO discernible impact. All of Obama’s actions, from his victory tour to Berlin to the Barackapolis in Denver show that he is apologist willing to spend millions and millions on nothing. Had Democrats chosen a DLC Democrat, they’d be winning this election in a heartbeat, with the hearty endorsement of maintstream Democrats and millions of Republicans as well.
Indeed, yes Chad3337. “Governor Palin is succeeding………because she’s appealing to our better angels.”
Her actions of special love, and words of special love for her special baby, are an authenticity that inspires. Her spirituality and love are beautifully and naturally woven together to truly feel, and truly see, the uniqueness and goodness in her new child, that give her special joy. Unfeeling Obama’s cunning darkness will never really understand Lincoln’s appeal to us to find the “better angels of our nature”.
Obama would likely call her new baby “punishment”. This is a tragically sad attitude. But beyond that, Obama’s unfeeling ambition devoid of any real ethics and fundamental conscience, is NOT real leadership and NOT what the American Presidency should be about.
resistance to change and a higher vision.
…or how to combine “resistance is futile” with “Smokin Hopium” or some setting on a microscope.
One could read that as pure Deepak SNL Snark.
Mr. Johnson, penny bet that if you called up President Clinton and asked him if “they really believe this stuff” he would know you were not refering to Republicans.
As an example I watched Micheal Moore say he didn’t believe “the polls” when Mr. King asked him about having the same as McCain.
Yet all this year we’ve nothing but “it’s the
planepolls, it’s the polls from BO and his headless horsemen.All these “inflated buffoons” have done for the Democratic Party what the “neo-cons” did for the Republicans!
The end result will be the same, I hope.
Get rid of them!
i saw a picture of palin with a dead moose today. i don’t like it. frankly it sickens me. but the thought of obama in the wh sickens me even more. i have paid close attention to him and his cohorts. i have watched the democratic party commit hari kari for no good reason other than the blind stupidity, arrogance and list for power that runs rampant in the so called leadership. i don’t agree with palin on a number of issues but i disagree more with obama. there you have it. many probably feel that way. way to go dems!
Yes, Larry. Yes, they are that insane.
The Cheeto boyz and the Obamabots are completely incapable of realizing that most of the country does not think like them, and in fact thinks they are bonkers.
When Obama goes down in flames, they will retreat to their usual excuse of blaming all those stupid voters. It is NEVER their fault that they can neither relate to, nor do they listen to the rest of America. It is always OUR fault that we are too uneducated and moronic to recognize their great brilliance. They will gnash their teeth over how we are just too “low-information” to have comprehended THEIR great plan for OUR lives, that they were so graciously offering us. It will NEVER ever occur to them that perhaps they should have found out what WE wanted, not told us what they thought we needed.
It is insulting elitism in the extreme, and they are so utterly fucking blind to it that it is gobsmacking, election after election.
Clinton Democrats like me GOT this. The fauxgressives have no clue.
These jerks aren’t progressives. They are Regressives. They just hijacked the term “progressive” to gain credibility amongst fools. They are nothing short of left over members from the defunct socialist, marxist, communist, and stalinist parties in the US. They hoodwinked kids with no life experience who don’t know any better. That’s the most despicable thing about them.
Maybe he’s not one of the greats to you or to Americans but people outside the US don’t react to his pecker adventures. On the contrary: we find his treatment directly humiliating for your country. In other words: it makes you look like the bunch of silly twits you are.
Bill Clinton is the 2nd best US president in the 20th century. After FDR. And what you puritans think of his rather clumsy pecker adventures has nothing to do with it. To merely suggest that his merits may not be fully lauded by an act as stunningly innocent as a sloppy blowjob is tantamount to putting signs at all ports of entry.
‘Welcome to the United States of America. We are weird.‘
Thanks for defending The last Elected American President. As you’ve probably noticed, most Democrats are too chickensh*t to defend their own people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg
Tsar Cozy,
You are so right!
Moose population can get out of control. What’s more, maybe grappling with life and death in that climate and wilderness may give some more character. Personally, hunting doesn’t bother me.
Soldiers dying in Iraq, yes! Iraqis? Yes.
Do you really think that worrying about a dead moose is equal to worrying about extreme Islam in Iran? That’s just what the Messiah wants you to be, weak hearted. Get over it.
I’m an inner city girl. Hunting doesn’t bother me either.
Animals are wonderful as is all of nature. It’s wonderous to think of our ancestors as hunter/gatherers and how their efforts contributed to the perpetuation of the human race. We are what they helped us to be. We are where we are today because of their blood, sweat and tears.
Certainly we have evolved and society is very different now. But human instinct dies hard. And those who hunt connect to those instincts.
Although most people appreciate the need to respect our animal friends, our society has allowed the Disney-fication of the animal kingdom to fill us with the illusion that animals are human beings.
They are not.
I believe in animal rights, that is the new frontier in humanity.
And Tzar, We really don’t CARE what Europe thinks. They already sold out and rely on us to police the world. But thank you for bringing it up.
Chopra is a first rate pseudo-psycho babbler. …a load of nonsense about Palin as the “shadow”. By stating what everyone already knows about Palin’s views from news reporting, but stating it in pseudo-psycho terms (Chopra’s supposedly an endocrinologist (study of hormones), not a psychologist), Chopra makes it sound like he’s the wise sage bestowing this wisdom on all us common folk for the first time.
But I wouldn’t worry about Chopra-ism taking over the Democratic party. As of this writing, this particular NoQuarter post about Chopra’s post has around 220 plus comments; while Chopra’s own column on HuffPo, one of the high traffic blog sites, has a whopping 12 comments.
GOOGLE
Obama
Ayers
Annenberg Challenge
Check it out and then spread the word…
During the years Ayers and Obama served together on the board of the Annenberg Challenge, they were responsible for disbursing over $49 million dollars, supplemented by another $100 million dollars in public and private funding – yet Obama minimizes his relationship with Ayers.
Ayers is a terrorist and is friends with Obama.
Put it another way.
A man running for the Presidency of the United States of America is friends with a $^#&$^*#^#&**&#&*&#* terrorist.
Oh no, no, no!!
No Way!
No How!
NOBAMA!!
It would not have mattered who Obama put on the ticket to run with him. The problem has always been with Obama himself.
The notion Clinton could have helped this train wreck of a ticket is pure fantasy.
LOL 12 comments
You see, the Democrats are better than that. You see, the people from small towns are ignorant and not worldly, so the Democrats don’t want their vote. Donna Brizile explained that Obama would change the political map because with the AA, Republican cross overs and independents flocking to vote for “the one”, and gave the pink slip to the blue collars and Hispanics were not needed.
Bottom Line: Michelle Obama DESPISES, is JEALOUS of Hillary Clinton and wanted NO PART of Hillary to be added to the ticket. To be fair to Barack Obama, I think he’s being led around by the nose by Michelle and his ‘henchmen’, even though Barack DOES stick his nose up in the air – like he’s better (and smarter) than anyone else! Never forget how he ‘looked down’ on Hillary when he was debating him!
You all keep painting Michelle as being some kind of force that’s in charge of 0bama. Everything boils down to “What Michelle wants” for you all.
I think this image of her is grossly overrated, if not an out-and-out illusion. And it’s in complete contradiction to what many of us firmly believe about 0bama being a total narcissist.
Face it: 0bama didn’t want Hillary. Period! Michelle is an obedient wife who postures bravado to the world outside her marriage. She’s tough and intimidating to everyone else, but behind closed doors, everything is about what Barry wants. I see no indication of it being anyway else than her serving him, his wants, his needs.
He’s a narcissist. If he couldn’t share the limelight with Hillary, do you really think he lets any women dictate to him? He’s a misogynist! Where are the indications of former relationships, even one? That’s the reason he’s in this jam. A man his age, posessed by achieving such a lofty goal as becoming POTUS, would know how to go hat in hand to Hillary’s female supporters to gain their support. He’s 47 years old. A man with experience with women, by that age knows this and knows how to get what he wants.
Trust me, he’s not being led around the nose, least of all by Michelle. She’s doing his bidding and if she knows what’s good for her: she better!
I am an animal lover and always have been. When I make fun/tease my friends/family members who hunt – I am remined that if they DIDN’T hunt these animals, there would be a surplus and they would starve to death (with all the competition), or they could/would attack small children/pets if the ‘pickins’ got bare. So, I realized….it’s either the animals starve to death because there are SO many of them (and, of course, I don’t want kids or pets EATEN) or that they be ‘thinned’ out by legal hunting.
I could not/cannot do it – so, I guess we should thank those who ‘can’ do it. Afterall, in the Pilgrim’s days and in our grandparents/great grandparent’s day – THAT’S HOW MOST OF THEM GOT THEIR FOOD!
[...] moved most moderate and independent men and women away from Obama. Just check out these two posts (here and here) from liberals regarding the media attacks on Palin. They tell much more of this story [...]
I sense things are not blowing in our direction
LARRY SINCLAIR
Yes, I grew up on a ranch and grew up hunting coyotes. Since growing up and moving on, I don’t care much for hunting myself. But, the people who legally hunt pay for the conservation of game animals through licenses and fees paid for hunting permits. A lot of farmers and ranchers help make ends meet in part with the money they get from leasing hunting rights. The folks in charge of conservation care a great deal about animals and the protection of the species. Controlled management of animal populations actually makes these populations stronger and in the long term protects the species from disease and starvation. This is a perfect example of an issue misunderstood, which if it were widely understood… would become mostly a non-issue.
I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message.
News flash Deep Pockets Chopra: YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST! He is an M.D. Obama really draws the arrogant, elitist bubble people to him, doesn’t he? And they are all FURIOUS, because the stupid, ugly, poor people JUST DO NOT GET IT, and won’t vote as they insist we should! Ask P.Diddy, he is just sputtering because of…Alaska! No limos in Alaska, huh Diddy?
[...] but for the Obamabots. The more manure they spread over Palin the faster and stronger she grows. My story Sunday highlighting the idiotic analysis of one Deepak Chopra, who attacks Palin and her supporters on [...]
Deepak Chopra is nothing but a publicity-grubbing jackass; why anyone ever took him seriously is beyond me. Even when I ran with the wild progressive boiz I always winced when his name was invoked. He is what happens when dorkiness and charlatanism have a baby together.
So far, the most prominent references to race in the primaries, as well as in the general election have been from the Obama campaign … usually in terms of the Obama campaign accusing anyone, and everyone of racism, who disagreed with Obama, or challenged his lack of credentials, or his lack of experience, as racism. Obama has also vocally predicted and anticipated racism, when nobody actually said or did anything racist. Obama also used the race card against Bill Clinton. And, now democrat, and Obama supporter Kathleen Sebelius is once again using racism as an excuse, in case Obama doesn’t win in November. But, what about the other side of the coin? 90% of Blacks in America are voting for Obama simply because he is black. This is racism also, but it always gets swept under the carpet.
No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Rezko, no Pfleger, no Ayers,
no mean Michelle, and, NOBAMA !!!