Comments on: Why Some So-Called Progressives Don’t Get It? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Howard http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-746018 Howard Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:53:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-746018 So far, the most prominent references to race in the primaries, as well as in the general election have been from the Obama campaign ... usually in terms of the Obama campaign accusing anyone, and everyone of racism, who disagreed with Obama, or challenged his lack of credentials, or his lack of experience, as racism. Obama has also vocally predicted and anticipated racism, when nobody actually said or did anything racist. Obama also used the race card against Bill Clinton. And, now democrat, and Obama supporter Kathleen Sebelius is once again using racism as an excuse, in case Obama doesn't win in November. But, what about the other side of the coin? 90% of Blacks in America are voting for Obama simply because he is black. This is racism also, but it always gets swept under the carpet. No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Rezko, no Pfleger, no Ayers, no mean Michelle, and, NOBAMA !!! So far, the most prominent references to race in the primaries, as well as in the general election have been from the Obama campaign … usually in terms of the Obama campaign accusing anyone, and everyone of racism, who disagreed with Obama, or challenged his lack of credentials, or his lack of experience, as racism. Obama has also vocally predicted and anticipated racism, when nobody actually said or did anything racist. Obama also used the race card against Bill Clinton. And, now democrat, and Obama supporter Kathleen Sebelius is once again using racism as an excuse, in case Obama doesn’t win in November. But, what about the other side of the coin? 90% of Blacks in America are voting for Obama simply because he is black. This is racism also, but it always gets swept under the carpet.
No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Rezko, no Pfleger, no Ayers,
no mean Michelle, and, NOBAMA !!!

]]> By: Peniel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-692259 Peniel Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:13:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-692259 Nancy Well if it’s all so pathetic and you're so offended by our comments, why don't you stick to reading the Huffpost and other more suitable blogs for your apparent persuasion? Who's forcing you to read our pathetic remarks? Oh, that's right. You're here specifically to insult those who won't vote for the Obama, no matter their reasons. Well, news flash for you: it’s a free country, each owns his/her own vote, each is free to cast it according to their own conscience and you don’t have the power to take away our rights … because we won’t give you that power. Restated, you can’t practice your intimidation tactics here because they won’t work! If you’re so inclined, insult us more. It’ll just provide greater impetus to go beyond voting and really get involved to defeat Obama … so the rightful winner of the 2008 Democratic primaries – Hillary – can run and win in 2012! Nancy

Well if it’s all so pathetic and you’re so offended by our comments, why don’t you stick to reading the Huffpost and other more suitable blogs for your apparent persuasion?

Who’s forcing you to read our pathetic remarks?

Oh, that’s right. You’re here specifically to insult those who won’t vote for the Obama, no matter their reasons.

Well, news flash for you: it’s a free country, each owns his/her own vote, each is free to cast it according to their own conscience and you don’t have the power to take away our rights … because we won’t give you that power. Restated, you can’t practice your intimidation tactics here because they won’t work!

If you’re so inclined, insult us more. It’ll just provide greater impetus to go beyond voting and really get involved to defeat Obama … so the rightful winner of the 2008 Democratic primaries – Hillary – can run and win in 2012!

]]> By: Joyce http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691844 Joyce Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:56:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691844 MI here.. I read it, that is used to, it just makes me puke, now! BO did not want to count my vote in Jan.; I'll be damned if he'll get it in Nov. Mac/Palin08 PUMA HRC2012 MI here.. I read it, that is used to, it just makes me puke, now!

BO did not want to count my vote in Jan.; I’ll be damned if he’ll get it in Nov.

Mac/Palin08
PUMA
HRC2012

]]> By: Joyce http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691679 Joyce Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:21:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691679 Yep me too.. my feelings exactly! Yep me too.. my feelings exactly!

]]> By: DancingOpossum http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691651 DancingOpossum Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:14:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691651 Deepak Chopra is nothing but a publicity-grubbing jackass; why anyone ever took him seriously is beyond me. Even when I ran with the wild progressive boiz I always winced when his name was invoked. He is what happens when dorkiness and charlatanism have a baby together. Deepak Chopra is nothing but a publicity-grubbing jackass; why anyone ever took him seriously is beyond me. Even when I ran with the wild progressive boiz I always winced when his name was invoked. He is what happens when dorkiness and charlatanism have a baby together.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691333 mimi Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:06:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691333 Peniel, Thank you for the Sanskrit adage. How true, how very true! Peniel,

Thank you for the Sanskrit adage. How true, how very true!

]]> By: Ron http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691290 Ron Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:55:39 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-691290 Obama is not going to win. End of story. The left always loses in the general election, and for good reason. Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Move-0n - all need to go and the DNC MUST be reformed to reflect middle American views and give us middle America candidates. Obama is not going to win. End of story. The left always loses in the general election, and for good reason.

Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Move-0n - all need to go and the DNC MUST be reformed to reflect middle American views and give us middle America candidates.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690398 Nancy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:51:24 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690398 you neglected to add the comment from the obama campaign. 'in all fairness, the obama campaign NEVER asked her to be his attack dog on Palin.' so there...and she won't be, she's thinking of other things, far down the line, and you can bet on that. you neglected to add the comment from the obama campaign. ‘in all fairness, the obama campaign NEVER asked her to be his attack dog on Palin.’ so there…and she won’t be, she’s thinking of other things, far down the line, and you can bet on that.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690393 Nancy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:49:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690393 And who appointed you the 'one' to pass judgement on these people? Can I quote you on your many astute remarks? what a load of you know what. Why don't you visit Sara in Anchorage....the two of you are birds of a feather. And who appointed you the ‘one’ to pass judgement on these people? Can I quote you on your many astute remarks?
what a load of you know what. Why don’t you visit Sara in Anchorage….the two of you are birds of a feather.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690384 Nancy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:43:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690384 Oh for crying out loud...cut the drama! this is so pathetic. You can 'prove' that Hillary won the election. News Flash...she did NOT. Second news flash....the DNC and Howard Dean acted according to the rules, that were written by Hillary's campaign staff, Harold ickes and Terry McAuliffe. The MSM attacked George Bush as much or more than they have attacked hillary..and, remember, Hillary can take it, right? that's what she said! She is a fighter. No matter what she or her husband said about Obama, which is now being used by McCain (as we all said it would) in his 527's to attack the democratic nominee. Why should she care? she can and probably will run in 2012...do you think for one moment Hillary cares about Obama?? 'Give me a break' as Bill so aptly said in red-faced bloviating anger. And Rezko has been investigated, no wrong-doing by Obama. it is only you guys who are so determined to find something corrupt you will dig forever to get at that one missing lie. maybe it isn't there, okay? (Let's see if Bill and Chelsea will be called in to testify in the ongoing trial paul vs clinton - she was excused because she was campaigning-more to come on this). vote for mccain, you are a republican anyway. Oh for crying out loud…cut the drama! this is so pathetic. You can ‘prove’ that Hillary won the election. News Flash…she did NOT. Second news flash….the DNC and Howard Dean acted according to the rules, that were written by Hillary’s campaign staff, Harold ickes and Terry McAuliffe. The MSM attacked George Bush as much or more than they have attacked hillary..and, remember, Hillary can take it, right? that’s what she said! She is a fighter. No matter what she or her husband said about Obama, which is now being used by McCain (as we all said it would) in his 527’s to attack the democratic nominee. Why should she care? she can and probably will run in 2012…do you think for one moment Hillary cares about Obama?? ‘Give me a break’ as Bill so aptly said in red-faced bloviating anger.
And Rezko has been investigated, no wrong-doing by Obama. it is only you guys who are so determined to find something corrupt you will dig forever to get at that one missing lie. maybe it isn’t there, okay?
(Let’s see if Bill and Chelsea will be called in to testify in the ongoing trial paul vs clinton - she was excused because she was campaigning-more to come on this).

vote for mccain, you are a republican anyway.

]]> By: Peniel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690212 Peniel Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:27:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690212 mimi I agree. It is sad that Chopra has lost his humility and inner guidance because therein he closed his own open channel to discern truth. Now, apparently he’s speaking from his head and ego. RE your comments about Obama: There's a fable entitled “The Jackal” in the ancient Sanskrit that says this as its moral: <em><strong>Whatever the natural propensity it will be hard to overcome. For if a dog were made king, would he not still gnaw at his shoe straps?</strong></em> I don’t care how they try to remake Obama’s image for more palatable consumption by the American electorate, <strong>he is who he is</strong>. And in this election cycle, his true colors shined through! That’s why I will not vote for this man. I can’t betray my own inner guidance that believes in truth, honor, a sense of fairness and justice … just to be a “good” Democrat! -- peniel mimi

I agree. It is sad that Chopra has lost his humility and inner guidance because therein he closed his own open channel to discern truth. Now, apparently he’s speaking from his head and ego.

RE your comments about Obama: There’s a fable entitled “The Jackal” in the ancient Sanskrit that says this as its moral:

Whatever the natural propensity it will be hard to overcome. For if a dog were made king, would he not still gnaw at his shoe straps?

I don’t care how they try to remake Obama’s image for more palatable consumption by the American electorate, he is who he is. And in this election cycle, his true colors shined through!

That’s why I will not vote for this man.

I can’t betray my own inner guidance that believes in truth, honor, a sense of fairness and justice … just to be a “good” Democrat!
— peniel

]]> By: Obama and Biden in a Bind : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690168 Obama and Biden in a Bind : NO QUARTER Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:05:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-690168 [...] but for the Obamabots. The more manure they spread over Palin the faster and stronger she grows. My story Sunday highlighting the idiotic analysis of one Deepak Chopra, who attacks Palin and her supporters on [...] [...] but for the Obamabots. The more manure they spread over Palin the faster and stronger she grows. My story Sunday highlighting the idiotic analysis of one Deepak Chopra, who attacks Palin and her supporters on [...]

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689985 NoBamaNoWay Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:49:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689985 i think he meant that the Clintons put their COUNTRY before their party. i think he meant that the Clintons put their COUNTRY before their party.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689980 Nancy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:47:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689980 Get over it - you have no proof whatsoever that by selecting Hillary he would have a better chance at becoming president. the primaries are NOT the general election, what works there does not work the same in the GE. nor do you have proof that hillary would beat mcCain in Nov. seriously, you all have a head problem. if what you want (what Chopra correctly describes) is a hockey mom, and a very snarky one at that, then that is what you will get. and with that comes four more years of the last eight - not so good. it really doesn't pay to let your bitterness and hate get the better of you. Obama will not bring about the horror you imagine, you can bet on it. Get over it - you have no proof whatsoever that by selecting Hillary he would have a better chance at becoming president. the primaries are NOT the general election, what works there does not work the same in the GE. nor do you have proof that hillary would beat mcCain in Nov.
seriously, you all have a head problem. if what you want (what Chopra correctly describes) is a hockey mom, and a very snarky one at that, then that is what you will get. and with that comes four more years of the last eight - not so good. it really doesn’t pay to let your bitterness and hate get the better of you. Obama will not bring about the horror you imagine, you can bet on it.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689920 NoBamaNoWay Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:31:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689920 good comment; clearly mr. chopra went off the rails with his obama = messiah, palin = satan tripe. this is why so many people are getting disgusted with the obamacrats. mccain will win in nov. and hillary will be vindicated. good comment; clearly mr. chopra went off the rails with his obama = messiah, palin = satan tripe. this is why so many people are getting disgusted with the obamacrats. mccain will win in nov. and hillary will be vindicated.

]]> By: fif http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689649 fif Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:27:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689649 I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. News flash Deep Pockets Chopra: YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST! He is an M.D. Obama really draws the arrogant, elitist bubble people to him, doesn't he? And they are all FURIOUS, because the stupid, ugly, poor people JUST DO NOT GET IT, and won't vote as they insist we should! Ask P.Diddy, he is just sputtering because of...Alaska! No limos in Alaska, huh Diddy? I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message.

News flash Deep Pockets Chopra: YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST! He is an M.D. Obama really draws the arrogant, elitist bubble people to him, doesn’t he? And they are all FURIOUS, because the stupid, ugly, poor people JUST DO NOT GET IT, and won’t vote as they insist we should! Ask P.Diddy, he is just sputtering because of…Alaska! No limos in Alaska, huh Diddy?

]]> By: rw http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689635 rw Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:23:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689635 I believe in animal rights, that is the new frontier in humanity. I believe in animal rights, that is the new frontier in humanity.

]]> By: red_sleeves http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689579 red_sleeves Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:13:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689579 Mr. Axelrod is of Jewish descent. His father fled from eastern Europe to the US. Mr. Axelrod is of Jewish descent. His father fled from eastern Europe to the US.

]]> By: mimi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689564 mimi Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:11:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689564 You all keep painting Michelle as being some kind of force that's in charge of 0bama. Everything boils down to "<em>What Michelle wants</em>" for you all. I think this image of her is grossly overrated, if not an out-and-out illusion. And it's in complete contradiction to what many of us firmly believe about 0bama being a total narcissist. Face it: 0bama didn't want Hillary. Period! Michelle is an obedient wife who postures bravado to the world outside her marriage. She's tough and intimidating to everyone else, but behind closed doors, everything is about what Barry wants. I see no indication of it being anyway else than her serving him, his wants, his needs. He's a narcissist. If he couldn't share the limelight with Hillary, do you really think he lets any women dictate to him? He's a misogynist! Where are the indications of former relationships, even one? That's the reason he's in this jam. A man his age, posessed by achieving such a lofty goal as becoming POTUS, would know how to go <em>hat in hand</em> to Hillary's female supporters to gain their support. He's 47 years old. A man with experience with women, by that age knows this and knows how to get what he wants. Trust me, he's not being led around the nose, least of all by Michelle. She's doing his bidding and if she knows what's good for her: she better! You all keep painting Michelle as being some kind of force that’s in charge of 0bama. Everything boils down to “What Michelle wants” for you all.

I think this image of her is grossly overrated, if not an out-and-out illusion. And it’s in complete contradiction to what many of us firmly believe about 0bama being a total narcissist.

Face it: 0bama didn’t want Hillary. Period! Michelle is an obedient wife who postures bravado to the world outside her marriage. She’s tough and intimidating to everyone else, but behind closed doors, everything is about what Barry wants. I see no indication of it being anyway else than her serving him, his wants, his needs.

He’s a narcissist. If he couldn’t share the limelight with Hillary, do you really think he lets any women dictate to him? He’s a misogynist! Where are the indications of former relationships, even one? That’s the reason he’s in this jam. A man his age, posessed by achieving such a lofty goal as becoming POTUS, would know how to go hat in hand to Hillary’s female supporters to gain their support. He’s 47 years old. A man with experience with women, by that age knows this and knows how to get what he wants.

Trust me, he’s not being led around the nose, least of all by Michelle. She’s doing his bidding and if she knows what’s good for her: she better!

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689496 Docelder Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:58:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/07/why-some-so-called-progressives-dont-get-it/#comment-689496 <blockquote>if they DIDN’T hunt these animals, there would be a surplus and they would starve to death</blockquote> Yes, I grew up on a ranch and grew up hunting coyotes. Since growing up and moving on, I don't care much for hunting myself. But, the people who legally hunt pay for the conservation of game animals through licenses and fees paid for hunting permits. A lot of farmers and ranchers help make ends meet in part with the money they get from leasing hunting rights. The folks in charge of conservation care a great deal about animals and the protection of the species. Controlled management of animal populations actually makes these populations stronger and in the long term protects the species from disease and starvation. This is a perfect example of an issue misunderstood, which if it were widely understood... would become mostly a non-issue.

if they DIDN’T hunt these animals, there would be a surplus and they would starve to death

Yes, I grew up on a ranch and grew up hunting coyotes. Since growing up and moving on, I don’t care much for hunting myself. But, the people who legally hunt pay for the conservation of game animals through licenses and fees paid for hunting permits. A lot of farmers and ranchers help make ends meet in part with the money they get from leasing hunting rights. The folks in charge of conservation care a great deal about animals and the protection of the species. Controlled management of animal populations actually makes these populations stronger and in the long term protects the species from disease and starvation. This is a perfect example of an issue misunderstood, which if it were widely understood… would become mostly a non-issue.

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