The Latest Polls Go McCain/Palin’s Way
By SusanUnPC on September 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, McCain/Palin 2008
Rasmussen Reports, with Fox News, has key new polls in the battleground states:
| — | OH | VA | FL | CO | PA |
| 51% | 49% | 48% | 46% | 45% | |
| Obama | 44 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 47 |
Washington Post/ABC News, national:
Sen. John McCain has wiped away many of Sen. Barack Obama’s pre-convention advantages, and the race for the White House is now basically deadlocked at 47 percent for Obama and 46 percent for McCain among registered voters, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. The presidential contest is also about even among those who are the most likely to vote in November: 49 percent for McCain, 47 percent for Obama. …
The Gallup and CNN polls are below the fold:
Gallup, the daily tracking poll:
Gallup Daily: McCain’s Bounce Gives Him 5-Point Lead — Leads Obama 49%-44% in first results conducted fully after GOP convention — PRINCETON, NJ — John McCain leads Barack Obama, 49% to 44%, in the immediate aftermath of the Republican National Convention, according to the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking results.
CNN, via the Political Ticker:
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new national poll taken entirely after the end of the Republican convention suggests the race for the White House between John McCain and Barack Obama is dead even.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll out Monday afternoon has McCain and Obama tied at 48 percent each among registered voters questioned. Three percent of voters are undecided in the survey, which was conducted Friday through Sunday. …
You’ll also want to check out the new A.P. story, “McCain leads Obama in 2 polls, race even in 3 more“. Here’s a snippet on that USA Today poll:
OF INTEREST: This poll shows McCain getting a substantial bounce after the Republican National Convention, overcoming a 7-percentage-point Obama lead before the convention began in St. Paul, Minn., last week. The addition of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to the Republican ticket led 29 percent of voters to say they were more likely to vote for McCain, while 21 percent said they were less likely. …
(Release: November 13)
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Encouraging, especially since the “Bradley effect” means that you can probably add at least 2 points to all of those numbers for McCain and take away at least 2 points for The Zero.
But there’s 7 weeks left to go yet, which is an eternity in politics. Look at how much different the political landscape looks today than it did just 10 days ago.
Still … The “Whitey Tape” lurks.
Agree re the “Bradley Effect.” I saw this occur in L.A. and the media was totally taken by surprise.
MG
I don’t want to win on a Bradley effect or alleged whitey tape.
If the execrable Democrats are defeated, Republicans
have to quit screwing up and running up deficits and getting us into undeclared wars.
No more incompetent, Skull and Bones Bushies in the White House.
The best numbers of all I heard Scott Rasmussen report were the numbers on WOMEN. Obama had 14pts on McCain prior to Sarah Palin and the convention and that lead is now 3pts.
He said it was accounted for by Independent Women now picking McCain.
Way to go ladies!!! HUGE!!
I think this is very important. I think that McCain is going to strip Obama of all but the youngest women voters. I think that the chance to put a very normal, down-to-earth woman who is by all accounts supermom (okay, dated term) is a very winning ticket. I know that my wife and several friends who generally could care less about politics are absolutely ecstatic. Then too, my wife, a former Captain in the Army, was flabbergasted at Obama’s new comment about having thought about joining the military. Something she found totally unbelievable.
Matthew:
I had the same reaction as your wife when I read: I would have joined the military but the Vietnam War was over and I lost my ardor for for idea.
What?!!! What the hell does that even mean?
Talk about pandering. This is Obama flapping in all directions.
As for the womens’ vote? Well, there’s all of those PUMAs, the mythical creatures that only counted for a dozen votes or so [including men, too].
Guess we magically multiplied somehow between the conventions.
Hah!
Did he really say that? The Vietnam war was essentially over by the time he was 13. That doesnt even make sense. What a DB.
It reminds me of that Arlo Guthrie song Alice’s Restaurant, when he’s in the recruitment office with the army shrink screaming, “I want to kill, kill, kill!” LOL.
Who on earth only wants to join the military, if there’s a war going on? It’s admirable when someone is inspired to join in those times, but it’s not the sole purpose of joining the military. Didn’t he say he was on food stamps as a teenager? That’s why most people join.
No, I think it was a snotty reference to McCain’s age. Obama’s desperate.
PUMA4PALIN
ur welcome!
Thank you
MG
A little bit more work in PA, FL, and MI, and we’ll be able to call it a job well done.
mission accomplished ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got this in an email, some guys kid made it for John McCain, it’s very moving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
How can that dirtbag Obama ahead in Pennsylvania where he couldn’t stop stuttering in his debate and couldn’t finish his waffle and take his tiny sausage back home? I studied the demographics at the time and he had little or no support amongst women and the older voting groups – who appeared VERY savvy. I wonder what kind of polls they’re running.
Kerry took PA, and with Philadelphia having so many Manhattan transplants and blacks, I could see Obama having an edge.
Kerry was running against Bush…Obama (and all of his radical associates)are running against John McCain. I highly doubt that Pennsylvanians will be giving Obama an edge.
Wait a minute – Obama is leading in FLORIDA??? How can that possibly be after how he treated the voters there?? Good grief – it shouldn’t even be CLOSE – MI, either, for that matter. Guess that’s just me…
it’s 48-48 in FL
FL…That’s not good for McCain as he has been leading 3-4 pts consistently (they don’t like Palin). CO not so hot for McCain either. I don’t think McCain is going to get PN.
I’m not so sure about Colorado. Hillary might be able to make Florida close, but it seems McCain is working the mountain west and the rust belt now and seeing how they like the new VP. I’m not surprised about Florida, but I think the panhandle and north of the state will give McCain the votes he needs. I think Colorado likes Palin, from news items I’ve read. Drilling will be an issue there. I think McCain has a good chance with Florida and Colorado, but Pennsylvania is doubtful.
Karen, I live in Colorado and I will be supprised if Obama wins here. This state went for Bush in 2000/2004. Fort Carson is a huge military base, NORAD, NORTHCOM, the Air Force Academy, Peterson Air Force Base and Focus on the Family are here and the AA population is very small. It is a conservative state with pockets of very left wing communities like Boulder and some parts of Denver. Our Governor is a Democrat, one senator and the state houses are controled by Democrats, but all that happened in 2006. Now people are disillusioned with US Senate and House and the new senator, Ken Salazar has let a lot of us down voting with Republicans on many important issues.
there will be a HUGE Bradley effect in FL
it is such a mix of people from mostly northern states like New York, Indiana, Ohio and PA
the coast line has a huge Jewish Population as well as the huge Cuban and Haitian population in the south
the panhandle is all Air Force (Eglin)
all more likely to vote for McCain
the red necks down the center of the state still kiss billboards to GW BUSH (that’s how dopey they can be)
FLA will be RED
Yep, yep…most definitively Cubans here in Florida, even liberal ones, won’t vote for Obammunist. He reminds us way too much of the Fidel bastard we fled from. Why would we vote for someone just like him here in our beloved US. HELL NO!
Isn’t there a hurricane? I suspect many are elsewhere until it’s safe to return.
I really don’t think Obama can take Florida. We have a Republican Governor that is very well liked. Hillary was here in Tampa today stumping for Obama. McCain needs to send Lieberman to Miami and Palm Beach to campaign for him. I just heard on the news John McCain is coming here next week. He knows what he’s doing, if Sarah does well in her interview we will sew it up!
I totally agree – he should send Joe down.
McCain people, if you’re reading this please take note!
MG
Yep if Obamasoretoro is ahead in FL it’s because of Hillary….as usual! Send Joe Lieberman for sure and a little dose of Palin power and wala! VICTORY!
YEP
Joe for the coast (not miami)
Palin for Orlando North
and definitely for the panhandle
I don’t think that is correct–Crist is popular and with Guiliani, Crist, Thompson, McCain, and Palin campaigning there, Obama has no chance. I think the more religious people will skip Obama, Cuban-Americans are going to be suspicious, and seniors are going to respect McCain’s history and Palin’s trailblazing role more than that of a junior, inexperienced senator from Chicago that has a bad attitude toward women and obnoxious followers.
Cubans always vote Republican. Always always always. No way Obama comes off tougher than McCain on national security. They don’t care about UHC at all. Swam from it back in the day.
I think it was the convention that helped Barky in Florida. They love Bill and Hill.
the chart is not aligned properly – move each number in the first row to the right
I typed it right off the TV screen. They are tied in Florida.
Oh no I know it tied at 48-48. I’m just saying the chart in the post shows a blank for McCain’s FL numbers -I think there is a formatting problem
I am from central PA and we were Hillaryland. His lead comes from Philly and the surrounding areas.
Honestly, i think McCain can swing it and with rendell as governor i am not so sure he will be hustiling to help Obama.
If Mac can make big gains all through west pa, northeast, and well, basically everywhere but the philly area. I think McCain can pul my state. I have a repbulican HQ and I am going down soon to volunteer for McCain and even congressional repubs. I want a complete reset of the party for Hillary to paint in her image over the next 4 years to election after obobo loses.
Paul,
Thank you for Standing Up and Fighting for America!
McCain-Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12
Didn’t Rendell make some foolish comparative statements about Palin today or in the past few days?
Salon.com sux – it’s utterly misogynistic. Please click on this link, sign up, and leave a nasty comment:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/09/09/mistress_palin/
Pigs!!
What’s he talking about “tasty female flavoring” – clam juice?
I think the polls are great snapshots and I find humor in reading the dire and demoralized comments by the nutroots gangs on sites such as TPM whenever a poll comes out the shows a drop in support for their Dear Leader. But aside from this, while I try to read every one that comes out, I think they are misleading and ripe for driving the public, rather than just reporting trends.
Today, for example, even as the polls are coming out media and pollsters are already working overtime pushing them down–almost telling people to shift back to Obama. I don’t doubt that some people who follow the latest fad or news rather than think for themselves, answer pollsters with what they want to hear rather than what they feel in their heart if they were honest to their own values.
I also think that polls are extremely suspect this year–so many new registered voters, so many changes–the move from landline to cell phone, for example–that formulas for past elections are invalid today.
Maybe you all have a different perspective? What do you think?
That Josh Marshall post had me laughing.
I think Palin giving the same speech is already tiresome. Obama has a voter drive going well but he is still playing defense.
Clinton is helping and alot can happen in two months.
Its a coin toss.
As about as tiring as hearing Obama say McCain voted 90% with Bush. Believe me, it’s all I’ve heard for the last 19 months. He also gives the same campaign speech as well. They call them stump speeches. Got anything better?
Don’t they all give the same speech over and over again? We are just watching each and every one, which does make it repetitive. I do agree they need to keep in mind the bigger and intensely attentive audience at the moment. She’s almost a novelty at the moment and they should milk that for everything its worth by making each different. I don’t envy them on that.
ROFL! I think he’s captivated and watches Sarah’s every word.
I don’t know how they account for cell phones, and people like me who never answer their phones.
See here.
Oh goodness Soetoro!
also, in FL on average McCain is winning on RCP.
I think florida is his, along with Ohio. If we swing Michigan or PA it is over with McCain getting the traditional republican states. I think he can win Colorado to. Obama had his convention in Colorado and is ahead by the margin of error almost.
Those of us who want Mac to win, victory is in sight and if we work our asses of we can make it embarrassing for obama.
Michigan will work better than Pennsylvania.
Senator Obama’s interview on MSNBC. Notice how every time Keith Olbermann asks a question, Senator Obama can’t help himself but laugh, McCain/Palin is becoming such a farce that you just can’t help but laugh.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/obama-olbermann-interview_n_124955.html
Keep on laughing FF. We encourage you to.
I bet Sarah Palin wouldn’t be brave enough to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann.
Brave enough or stupid enough. There is a difference. That guy is out of his stinking mind. I’m glad he got demoted and can’t wait for his “pink” slip.
Nervous laughter is another possibility. Obamasoretoro has been thrown for a loop and her name is Barracuda!!!!!
nor would I…
I’m certain that KO’s organism hosts some microbes unknown to and uncategorized by the CDC.
Interviewee beware!
icchh.
I think Sarah should take Keith out on a hunting trip
and come back alone!
You don’t get it, nobody cares about a jerk like Olberman.
Queef Uberdouche is an embarrassment to his network. At least they aren’t trying to disguise his commentary as reportage anymore.
Sarah has a Humans Only interview policy.
Patrick
I think “pit bull with lipstick” could handle him just fine. Maybe they could compare shades. I’ll bet Keith would love pink passion.
If i were getting away with stealing an election, belittling women, using my race card that is over the limit but i’m still using it, running around with terrorist, cheating tax payers, letting my half brother live in a shack, have fans stupid enough to post a candidates child on ebay, and that I was going to get a blowjob from keith I’d be laughing too. Laughing at you.
Ps. to everyone except freedom fighter sorry for the blow job comment.
ahhh FF where are you at..that is not the case where i am..in fact all the women and many men where i am at have now finslly decided..they are voting McCain / Palin..many were torn when Hillary got out..but not any more..most were thrilled with the RNC convention!!
My girlfriends and their college age daughters were delighted ..even thrilled i will go so far as to say..
My husband said Palin sealed the deal for him as he can’t stand Biden but he remembers the plagarism of the past …
Me?? ..i can not vote Obama since he and the DNC stole my vote and the votes of people from my state..can not vote him..no way no how.
Are you kidding me? College age women overwhelmingly support Obama. They have a future to look forward to.
Yeah those college girls have a great future.
Looked down and abused by sexist thugs that believe they have a mandate to hate women with an Obama victory.
Those girls will have a great time getting jobs with the Great Depression caused by Obama tax increases and tariffs.
A future as what? “Obama Girls Gone Wild”?
Promiscuous binge drinkers can’t afford to lose their right to cheap easy abortion on demand, and since they don’t have jobs or families, that’s all they care about.
Obama is the biggest farce in politics and Olberman is the biggest farce in journalism. That makes quite a duo.
Oh yes, such a farce. That’s why you Obamatrons are running around as if your hair’s on fire.
Please keep laughing. And spewing the hate. It’s really, really working. To McCain’s advantage.
Sorry, we’re not buying here.
Where’s that troll who was on here the other day, boasting and chuckling because McCain hadn’t gotten his bounce yet? I think she told us “You’re going to lose. Try not to have a nervous breakdown”. I guess she had one yesterday when these poll numbers came out.
the thing is though is the polls have been consistently close all summer. McCain’s convention and his new strategy are brilliant and in his first decisoin as a candidate he made the bravest, boldest, and strategic pick that has been made.
He picked a women that is everything obama talks about after he prevented another amazing women from crossing the finish line.
Carl Cameron on fox called political judo and i must concur.
They are so mad on the angry left you can see them boiling. The press has done such a consitently terrible job that no one with a fair mind can believe them or find them credible.
So, from now on the media has been effectively muted by the McCain camp for its pushback at the convention.
It is no time for complacency but Steve Schmidt is running an amazing campaign and as the CIC of it Mac has been operating flawlessly.
The media and the Obama sexist pigs took McCain’s bait…
Hook Line and Sinker!!
Obama has been advertising very heavily here in Florida. The ads are ridiculously “dumbed down” to elementary school level. I think they are targeting the “low educated” group we keep hearing them reference. The ad right now is very simple… it shows McCain in various pictures of him standing in proximity to Bush… with the large one word graphic superimposed… “SAME”. Not unlike a preschooler book such as red fish blue fish… or sesame street… which one is the same… very simplistic. The point I am making is… I really think the message is intended to invoke a subliminal racial message. McCain… Bush both Caucasian males… i.e. “SAME”. Fairly pathetic really.
Interesting. It just seemed like people were REALLY upset with him over the way he dismissed FL. Just surprised that they flocked to him after that. I understand that your gov. is a fan of McCain’s though…
Yes he is Rev. Amy. Governor Charlie Crist is the best governor we’ve had here IMHO. He’s done some really good things for Florida and when he says he’s going to do something he gets things done.
I think Obama, the nutroots gang, and the media have very seriously overplayed this ‘only stupid, uneducated, lower income people support Clinton’ that they now can’t help using the same against McCain. The elitist putdown IS infuriating and I am looking forward to seeing McCain tackling this much as he has Obama’s cult and celebrity. Palin makes this such as ripe target in ways that McCain probably couldn’t pull of on his own–even Clinton wasn’t able to respond to this too well.
The stupidest thing the DNC did for reform was to go to proportional voting in the primaries. Look at everything that flowed from that flawed premise.
1. Guarantee of a divided party late in the game
2. A nominee can still win even when he starts losing
3. Caucuses allow too much error in eventual support
Blaming Hillary for dividing the Dem Party and “not dropping out” or leaving the party in shambles and then demanding she give up her roll call shows the total failure of this proportional primary vote “reform”.
Had it been winner take all, like the electoral college, Clinton would have won easily and early and this long, creepy Democratic death march never would have happened.
And this sobers us up about shedding the electoral college nation wide as well – for nothing other than being able to give the appearance of a clearer victory than a proportional hair-splitter. 2000 being a rare exception to this rule.
FF, i am sorry but the only farce in this election is obama, his life,his message, and his campaign.
Palin is what obama has been talking about. Real change, real reform. It must be really tough for you to deal with. Your candidate has two days in a row accused poeple of being “stupid” (yes stupid, his words) if we like McCain/Palin. Now, i am sure you agree with him. However when a guy trying to be president starts calling the poeple he is trying to serve “stupid” he has snapped. and you guys on the angry left are in a state of emergency like the capitol after obama’s friend/mentor/boss bill ayers bombed it.
We Will Not Be Silenced
A film by Gigi Gaston about Obama caucus tricks this past year.
Please take a look at that movie. Takes about a half hour. There are elements to this which may heretofore been lost on most of us.
Amongst other things you will learn:
- Of a black woman who marched with MLK driving that afternoon through Indiana observing the polling places. Bodyguard types sitting outside accosting people who arrived and telling them if they weren’t going to vote for Obama they had to turn around and go home. (And under that threat they did.)
- How one Texas Democrat worked from 8PM to 4AM for two weeks checking the caucus documents, finding huge falsifications.
- How another party official found the same – and as she’d voted for Hillary her own vote mysteriously went missing.
- How Obama people already in Iowa were pulling strings: if you had a Hillary button when you walked into the polling place they somehow wouldn’t find your name in the rosters; one election assistant threatened them with legal action on several occasions and each time the missing names would suddenly appear.
- Insiders in the Obama campaign revealing they were all ‘trained’ in how to caucus – they were told they had to be ‘aggressive’. Straight dirty Chicago politics the whole way.
- And why didn’t Hillary people complain? They did – they released three press releases the day of the Texas primary, as well as held an emergency conference call with the MSM. They were summarily ignored.
So please give it a look. Thank you.
We Will Not Be Silenced
This video is excellent, very informative with many first-hand accounts. The amount of corruption that occurred at the caucuses is downright frightening. I hope that many people will take the time to view it!
who the fuck would want to be interviewed by Olbermann anyway??? He is the lowest rated show at 8 on the news channels. FF, He is the Hannity of MSNBC. And a total loony angry left liberal. Frothing at the mouth any chance he gets to bash bush or any republican with no intent of ever, ever pointing out wrong on his side.
The guy is a joke. That is why He,Obama’s Cheerleader-n-Cheif got canned from election coverage. He Mitchell, and mathews are thre three stooges of news.
People should watch polls in Washington and Oregon. Hillbuzz posted about it, too.
Washington is overwhelmingly for Obama, but I’ve been watching his numbers slip. Palin will appeal to many in the Pacific Northwest, she’s from Alaska. Obamas flip flops on FISA, oil drilling, etc are going to whittle away at his liberal support.
You put these two factors together, and things could get real uncomfortable for Obama.
Spurred on by seeing the drop of Obama support in Oregon, I’ve been trying to enlighten my acquaintances in the very blue, pro-Obama King County area in WA state about Obama.
That said, I think it’s iffy to assume Palin will appeal to many non-Republicans in the NW, although I think many Republicans here like that she’s from the Pacific NW. This is very much a “greenie” area, and she’s not particularly pro-environment. There are also a lot of educated “elites” here who Democrats, who are up in arms about the idea that she even asked a librarian about banning books.
ok.. she is as pro-environment as they get.. BO voted for the bush-cheney bills..
and she DID NOT ban books..!!
she asked the main librarian about the efficiency of the library.. how quickly news books come in.. etc.
They’re pushing this theme that she’ll take us back to the Dark Ages, even if she has to kill McCain to do it.
So, asking about limiting certain titles is the same as actually banning books? How dare she be politically incorrect. And exactly what titles were removed from the library shelves?
None.
And why isn’t she “pro-environment?” Oh, that’s right she’s in favor of drilling [bad, bad word]. Of course, she lives in a state that favors drilling, in a state that has always revered it’s own landscape and environmental stability. What could she possibly know?
Go home! Spew your faux concern elsewhere.
In Washington Obama was at 54% and McCain was at 39%
That was until today!
Now McCain is at 44% and Obama is at 49%
5% slip and 5% raise for McCain/Palin and this rise for McCain in Washington and Oregon has just begun!
McCain/Palin will win in a landslide election. They will win for the people and against the corrupt Obama/Biden ticket.
Biden was an idiot to fall into the trap of Kerry and Kennedy.
I think they are already uncomfortable for him. And with a 10 point deficit I don’t see him able to regain that. As someone posted the other day: it’s about carrying a precious vase down a long corridor with a slippery floor. That’s all you have to do – not lose your footing. The election’s already McCain’s. Just coast on in now.
Why is it a tie in FL? Don’t those people have any self-respect after how Obama and the DNC treated them that they still want to vote for him?
I don’t believe the FL numbers. I have relatives there who say they are excited about McCain as those around them are too. But I do agree we have to keep working hard. No Obama, no way no how.
A lot of older women in Florida voted for Hillary. Since Hillary isn’t running, they will switch to McCain/Palin. In fact I re-registered as a republican until the democratic party gets rid of its garbage.
Don’t believe the Fla numbers ..many seniors in Fla live in two states but are Homesteaded in Fla..they go to another state for the summer and only return to Fla in Oct-Nov..or they vote absentee…but they are registered in Fla to vote.
Many of the seniors are not there this time of the year..they are snow birds! But vote in Fla.
We got hurt especially hard from the housing market here in FL. Really because of the hurricanes of 2004 and 2005… homeowners insurance became expensive and hard to get. That killed the home sales even before the actual economy downturn kicked in. The foreclosures here are high. I think folks here are especially vulnerable to Obama right now. Yes, I mean vulnerable as if he were a predator. To quote Obama’s mentor Saul Alinsky:
I think if things had gone as planned… yes I actually mean planned by the Obama activist left… we would all be suffering just as badly. I don’t think this “hopey-changey” revolution was an accident… though I do think they got impatient and went for it before it was time. Just my conspiratorial contribution.
I agree with you, FL is in the midst of a Depression caused by a collapse in real estate due to speculation. From what I’ve been seeing on the 10 fwy are cars/suvs with FL license plates hauling their way west to AZ or CA.
FL people, imo, right now, are very vulnerable to being deceived.
MG
Well, our tourism is hurting because of gas prices. Republicans want to drill offshore and so do Floridians. I’m telling you, McCain will take Florida. Rasmussen just said on Fox, the poll was taken while people were preparing for the hurricane. Although, I believe only the South of Florida had anything to worry about. All clear here in Tampa.
OT, but something I just learned:
During his 7 September 2008 interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Obama said the following:
“I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.
“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
Long story short Barack Obama could not have signed up the the Selective Service in 1979 because it was terminated by Pres. Ford in March 1975. Jimmy Carter re-established it in July of 1980 and beginnig on July 21, 1980 all men age 18-26 began retro-actively signing up. As a matter of fact, if you research Obama and the Selective Service you will see it is well documented that he signed up for the SS on September 4, 1980. Well over a year since he graduated high school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_service
History
On March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[2] The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week [3].
Interesting, thank you for posting and for doing the work that investigative reporters are supposed to be doing.
The McCain camp needs to call him out on this sort of thing. Otherwise, his lies/half truths will affect the intended targets.
MG
i was pndering oregon as well. It has a huge rural consevative area. Bush won it in 2000 i think?
It may be a close election but i have had a feeling that a silent majority will overwhelmingly crush obama and the enrgy produced by that convention reinforces it.
I thought Mac’s accpetance speech was touching and emotional. Sure Obama sounds like a phony welfare preecher, much more fluent. McCain has a candor and an honest appeal oBAMA doesn’t have.
I know poeple dogged his speech but it was brilliant. He attacked his own party, TO THEIR FACES on National TV. He touched on alot. And foget the liberal media spin. He talked policy as much as obama did and more specifically.
Obama spoke of robin hood taxation, Mac spoke of reforming unemployment to fit the global economy not the 50’s in which it was made. Mac is going to keep business taxes low, our corporate tax, the 2nd highest in the world, he is going to cut.
He is offering a tax breaks for working families BIGGER than Obama’s. 7000$ earned income credit. For healthcare you get a $5000 tax credit to purchase your family healthcare.
He has a real common sense approach to energy, all of the above with DRILL BABY DRILL off the coast.
Energy is huge anchor on economy right now. If we reduce energy costs across the board an create new jobs by commiting to John McCains Lexington project, our economy will BOOM. Whole new feilds of jobs.
Paul, Oregon has gone Democratic in the last several elections. It went Kerry last time and Gore before that. Close, but still blue.
I can’t help but to think that this is morally… just wrong on so many levels. The literal future of this nation as we know it is at stake here. Unenlightened as we all are for wanting to keep it that way.
makes it even harder to say Good Night
the days are getting more and more interesting
Hey Folks –
I see from the first comment the Whitey tape is still under discussion.
Is Larry continuing to stick by his claims of multiple sources quoting the same speech from Michelle and it being held in the can by someone (who) until “later”?
Just wondering..
thanks
Hey Geoff, I see from your comment that you’re scared sh@#less that Obamasoretoro will lose……Geoffry….YOU SHOULD BE!!! hahahahahaha!
I’m reallllly lovin’ this! Palin POWER!
Dude, take it easy. I would love it if the tape existed, Obama is a disaster waiting to happen.
I was an unpaid volunteer for mccain in field operations in the primaries…worked in South Carolina in upstate (cut down Huck’s lead over a month and swung the state) and was co-director of field operations in Georgia (we managed to push 2000 signs out into the streets of atlanta and suburbs and get 5000 calls made in the last three days prior to super tuesday, maybe the cause of holding romney down to third)
I just wanted to know if larry is standing by his words — i hope the tape is out there:)
Larry said last week his sources confirm the Whitey Tape will be released. They wanted to see what kind of convention bounce McCain would get, I think.
Regarding selective service…
I had remembered this a little off. I am in that age group. I remember registering at the local post office by filling out a card. For some reason I was thinking Reagan had re-established the selective service. Thanks for refreshing it… it had to be Carter if it was July 1980. Reagan just continued it then.
The person that said Obama signed up for Selective Service said his signing up was well documented. I’ve seen a letter put out by someone that said Obama supposedly registered but I have never seen actual proof (as in the card that young men filled out at the post office) that he did so. Where is the actual proof?
Yes, it was a small card that was provided at the post office because I remember my son signing one when he graduated from high school in 1995.
Obama may be short money! The New York Times is reported with comments like “extremely anemic” that funding is short.
See Forgoing Subsidy, Obama Team Presses Donors
They even note that “It collected in June and July far less from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s donors than originally projected.” They can’t be seriously surprised by this, can they?!
My God, what the hell is that young girl wearing?! Where are Stacey and Clinton when you need them?
His campaign will become increasingly dependent on money raised by Hamas in Gaza and Africans for Obama in Nigeria.
My husband, a forever republican and graduate of Pepperdine University, received an email from Biden asking for money. We have no idea how they got his email address. They must be buying them from somewhere, strange thing is they used my husbands first name.
That is a common practice in political fundraising – someone in the alumni organization(s) at Pepperdine is pro-Obama, and he donated a list to Obama’s money people. The actual soliciting is sometimes subcontracted to marketers who get 10% of what they “Kill” (money taken in)
The reason I mentioned Pepperdine is because they are soooo conservative. They have our home address but not his email address. I think email addresses are being sold or stolen. I think I should contact the Republicans here in Tampa and let them know.
TampaGurl:
This is a common slimy practice that Dem fundraisers engage in. Someone who supports Obama is also on an alumni or university position with access to databases. They gave the list to the campaign, and the campaign gives it to a marketing company which acts on behalf of the campaign to get cash. they keep 10%…..
Nope, they didn’t get it from pepperdine. I told you they don’t have my husbands email address. My husband is 58 he doesn’t have contact with them. Obama’s people are stealing email addresses.
I’ll never understand why they turned the ‘bird in the hand’ down. I know he’s the ‘greatest fundraiser in history’ or whatever, but by foregoing all of that matching fund cash he’s got to fund raise as well as campaign the final 2 months. BO doesn’t multi-task well and he REALLY needs to be spending a lot of time with a debate coach, not attending cocktail parties. No wonder he’s irritable….all that time with people is making him cranky.
MORE GOOD NEWS! Barky’s fundraising has been “extremely anemic” according to someone on his finance staff!
http://www.bythefault.com/
oh my..where is Donna Brazile when he needs her????????..maybe she could ..well..rob a bank for him???..since she said he didn’t need us ..and she stole a primary for him..maybe she could just swing a bank for him??..
or maybe Obama could have a garage sale for those Greek columns..that 6 million could pay for something ..like some peoples medicine..or housing in Obama;s district…or heat in the winter..
you know something worthwhile.
silly me..”the one” doesn’t do anything for anyone but his own selfish, self centered self..
maybe Donna could have a garage sale for “the one”…and sell American Flags…
Here’s some useful info from Kos:
The polls are very encouraging. On the Bradley effect I read that the race part was overrated and did not take into account the absentee voting with lots of consevatives over seas and military. What I saw with O and Hill was that usually she did better than the SAME DAY polling or one day previous. BUT, that is because late breaking deciders USUALLY go with the known quantity. If that happens in this race I think McCain has the advantage of the Bradley effect. Also, the Gallup polls seem to be the most reliable, then Rasmussen though Zogby did hit it right on in a few primaries. It’s a lot about late deciders when it’s close and so far its still close.
But Sarah’s effect MAY help McCain keep pulling away. I think her admires love her so much even a few gaffes wont matter too much. Also, they can campaign all the time now while O has to keep fund raising which is time he won’t be coverting voters since he will be preaching to the chior begging for money.
I feel pretty good about Mac’s prospects. Hillary 2012!
So no info on the Whitey tape? I guess its all talk. Too bad.
DESPERATION!!!!! Geoff!!!! Get over it….you lost! Obamasoretoro is so tanking, I mean seriously, check it out Geffy! Every time you post this same talking point…..you get a little smaller…….. hahahahahahahahahah!
Boss, take it easy.
I’m an independent blogger now looking for information on a story on the whitey tape.
You all on here sure seem paranoid and protective of information. I mean seriously, take it easy, read my prior post. I worked in this campaign, did you?
The tape doesn’t really matter. If you are writing a story, how about a few of these that are more important that the visual shock of her making a racist statement:
1. What about her nearly 3x raise followed by employer getting lots of money via Barack’s efforts?
2. Her role leading Chicago Public Allies, a chapter of Barack’s Public Allies group. From there, what is her role with ACORN?
3. Does she have any role with Chicago Annenberg Challenge and its subsidiaries?
4. What about her at least 20 year relationship with terrorists that include Ayers and Dohrn, plus likely others like Klonsky?
5. What are her board memberships and activities? Who has she worked for?
6. Both Barack and Michelle have only released their most recent tax returns and have not been forthcoming on who they have earned compensation from–both W2 and 1099.
There is more, but the above gives you opportunity to explore her ties to terrorism, to corruption, and more.
If you want to explore the church–why not look a bit further at what her relationship with Farrakhan, Meeks, Pfleger, and others is and was?
Matt,
You are very knowledgable. All of those issues are on my radar.
The problem with all is that there is no smoking gun that will stick.
I’m torn on how to present the issues credibly and in a centrist manner.
What do you mean won’t stick? On each of these, Barack has to some extent or even completely lied.
Michelle is virgin territory in almost all topics for news coverage as about the only two items covered to date in the MSM is her church membership and the raise, though the latter got little mention (though, I saw news today that Sen. Grassley, I think, is asking about it).
Chase down her paid and unpaid board memberships and group activities. Follow the money–and terrorism. It should be very easy to put real meat on the New Yorker caricature because there is a lot of truth there. From what I’ve already researched (see my posts here at NoQuarterUSA or on my blogs–linked via my name), she pops up a lot of places. Ayers and his ilk offer personal direct ties to unrepentent terrorists. Public Allies and ACORN are borderline violent organizations in some cases have lots of criminal accusations. I think anything you find to tie her to disreputable groups, plus receiving money from Barack’s organizations, will be newsworthy. The MSM isn’t looking at it so it’s up to us in blogs to dig it up and spoon feed it to the media.
@ Geoff….no, I didn’t work on McCain’s campaign, I worked for Hillary! I am a Democrat, not a Republican, I am voting for McCain because my party was hijacked by a bunch of misogynistic, fringe idiots who decided to steal a nomination with thugs and fraud and disenfranchisement. They kicked the best Democratic former President to the curb and called him a racist in their lust for power. They “selected” an un-vetted, unqualified, empty suit that they proceeded to try to shove down our throats.
So now I’m….McCain/Palin
Country first.
I’d suggest you redirect your enthusiasm to helping McCain instead of attacking folks who come on here looking for information.
Geoff, If I thought you were really here to “get information” I’d have to agree, however, I think, and I could be wrong, that you are another Obama troll. Matthew seems to like you, so again, maybe I’m wrong. But I think if you were really who you say you are, you wouldn’t be here looking for information from commenters, you’d be doing some research at the original sources.
How true in many ways. We’ve all been fighting Obama for months and much longer. The 24×7 Internet cycle makes what we found months ago not really old news, just lost in the crush of new news. People never got to digest it before it was swept aside. I know for myself, I’m digging up posts from last year and dusting them off with new updates because they are still incredibly relevant.
Like lists of Obama’s lies, the whole cult thing is not old news, all those people thrown under the bus, his earmarks–which are now back in the news (including money to Michelle’s employer). Plus, I like the contrast of Wal-Mart shopping Palin to the convenient Wal-Mart hater Obama and his followers.
Look at things that are small-town America. Nearly every one of them is dissed by Obama–religion, guns, Wal-Mart, military service, character and values, etc.
You people actually think I’m a freaking Obama supporter?
Wow. I’ve actually worked in field operations for the McCain campaign. I think Obama would likely destroy American leadership worldwide and the social fabric of our country.
I’m actually pretty offended, I’m sorry for bothering all of you great people here, a friend of mine said this was a good site for information and I’ve read it the last few days and I agree. I’m very troubled by the hateful attitude – why attack me? What did i do to you?
Damn yo.
Sorry, there was an update in one of the post-convention threads, but my firefox is buggy. I have a hard time scrolling after I search on this blog, and when I type, it’s very slow. No idea what that’s about.
Geoff: I know about the tape, but you’re so damn annoying I’m not giving you any table scraps.
I’m an independent conservative. We’re destroying your Trojan Horse Marxist in two months and you will never inflict another one of those on the nation again.
In fact we will be changing the Constitution so that you will have to give a blow job to all of us before you can nominate another enemy of the United States.
- E Pluribus Unum.
Hey, Jackass, drop the freaking insane paranoia.
Want to read an article i wrote from the GOP convention?
I quit my law firm job to work on launching a centrist website for Gen X and Y information prior to the election.
I want to launch with some real stories on OBama that might be relevant.
Un freaking believable.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/town-talk/?cxntfid=blogs_talk_of_the_town
Let the horse race begin! Georgia delegation felt energy
By J.G. Anderson | Friday, September 5, 2008, 11:55 AM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
J.G. Anderson, 33, lives in Atlanta and attended the Republican National Convention. Anderson. has resided in Atlanta for 23 years, and he attended the University of Georgia Law School and graduated in 2004 as a member of the Order of the Coif. Though an attorney, J.G. currently works as an independent journalist writing from a centrist point of view.
With the descending balloons at the Xcel Center, the primary season officially ended and the tickets were firmed up for a 60-day dash to history.
Yesterday’s convention conclusion was the crescendo of the week for an event once threatened with cancellation by the power of Hurricane Gustav and truncated in respect for the Gulf states. John McCain staked a bold claim to the center Thursday night by outlining the failures of both parties in Washington and appealing to Americans to support his bipartisan approach to problem solving for the next four years.
The stage for John McCain’s acceptance of the GOP’s nomination for president of the United States was converted into a more intimate setting with the feel of a town hall meeting. His speech and promises to fight entrenched corruption in a bipartisan fashion came across as authentic to members of the Georgia delegation and the casual observer of Washington politics alike, considering the attacks against McCain over the past 20 years for pursuing reform against entrenched special interests.
From a larger perspective, the GOP ticket has clearly thrown down the gauntlet at the feet of the Democrats, no longer willing to cede “change” ground and setting up what could shape up to be one of the closest elections in American history.
McCain’s convention goals were clear, yet in tension with each other — unite and excite the base of the GOP while also putting forth a strong appeal to Democrats and Independents.
With the deft maneuvering of a maverick that has marked his entire career, McCain hit the mark with both goals by exciting the base with the historic candidacy of Sarah Palin while still reaching out to undecided voters. As McCain’s speech pressed forward, members of the Georgia delegation not only sat on the edges of their seats, but also rose to their feet numerous times during the speech to cheer on.
Overall, while lacking in the polished rhetorical flourish of Barack Obama, McCain’s speech came across as an intimate talk with every voter in America. While observing the Georgia delegation for the past week, it is apparent that McCain and Palin have delivered a strong message promising center-right governance with a maverick style. Last night, McCain underlied his record as supportive of his bipartisan pitch by tell America, “I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again.” He then stated, “I have that record and the scars to prove it. Sen. Obama does not.”
With this statement, the Georgia delegation rose in a wave of roars of excitement and approval.
Over the next two months, Georgians will be wooed and cajoled by Democrats and the Obama campaign from every possible input, old media and new; however, with the energy felt by the Georgia delegation at the close of the convention, Georgians aren’t going to be swayed without a fight.
Geoff: I’m sorry I wrote that silly message to you… i didn’t scroll up enough to see the original message.
nice article you wrote.
Weak. All talk no action.
Geoff,
Many here are very testy.
We get Obambots here everyday, and people often lash out, without reading the content of what the person has written.
Has happened to me more than a few times.
Larry Johnson has a contact EMail address. Just click on Larry Johnson, at the top of the home page.
You will have to negotiate a spam filter, but it’s not too hard.
Then you could ask him your question, or ask that he post an update on the Whitey tapes.
Hope this helps.
Take Care.
Who needs the Whitey tape when Obamatrons are so destructive? Read the polls and keep calling Palin disgusting names.
It’s really working.
i wouldn’t count on Obama being short on funds. they are dropping expectations. It is the New Liberal Times, I mean NewYork Times.
August i am betting is his best month since the fake unity fest was held and all.
However, he is spending it faster than it comes. It is amazing the amount of money he is spending to buy the presidency. Why doesn’t he just fundraise for the poor? Then he would not have to have Robin Hood Taxation and redistribution of the wealth. Which is entirely unconstitutional.
Paul-
I would agree re expectations game.
They did the same thing a few months ago, remember the “low 30’s” talk?
Obama also, has consistently over-polled. They always overstate his support. Throughout the primary’s for example the youth vote was right around the percentages it always is.
And there simply are not enough African-Americans to swing an election.
His convention helped solidify some of his support but alot of his support is soft and looking for reasons to leave. By election time they will have all the reason they need.
Where was obama when he went to columbia? He has no friends no adress and no one in his class remembers him. This should be constantly brought up at every blog and everywhere you talk politics. HE IS HIDING HIS LIFE.
His commie mentor Frank was investigated by the FBI and frank liked to diddle younger folks. Obama has been rumored to be gay and with his mentor being frank that may not be so far off.
Also, he used to have a different name and is a closet muslim(IMO).
Gay and muslim is nothing to be ashamed of. That is the point. Why is he hiding who he is?
Because if america really knew, he would be toast.
The silver bullet is Obama’s support of the Chicago Machine and rejection of the bipartisan effort to root is out and crush it. The Obama endorsements of Daley and Stroger in 2007 is indisputable evidence.
Both Strogers are scum. Daleys are a disease.
excellent point, geoff. why has noone brought this out? have seen people discuss obama’s not having done anything to improve his district, but that’s basically saying he didn’t succeed (we know he didn’t even try). but haven’t seen anything about his actually fighting AGAINST the reform efforts in chicago. we know about it, but those who don’t read a lot of internet stuff don’t.
would love to see this message make its way to the msm.
Obamasoretoro has no friends because I believe he suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
I think at a minimum disaffected Clinton voters clearly outnumber blacks, thus canceling their impact on the election. The real challenge is to ensure that more of these 18.5 million vote for McCain that the around 15 million potential black voters for Obama. After that, the election really pivots on what white males do? I am sure this oversimplifies as other demographics have real or potential impact but I do think that the real and only wildcard in the election are the Clinton voters.
Matt,
Be realistic. Right now, it looks like 70-25 Obama on ex-Clinton supporters. If McCain can hold that number, i think he wins.
There is no way he’s getting all 18 million though, party loyalty is too strong – look at the polls, all saying 60-70 % of ex clinton go Obama
exactly, look at the corruption in Chi-town and the corruption in Alaska. Who did what to fight corruption? Palin crushed it and won. Obama promoted it and lies like he is fresh and new.
Same old chicago slime and corruption.
There are more murders in Chi-Town this summer than Iraq.
Maybe he should take on the war in his city before taking on a war abroad with our family’s interests and future’s on the line.
I think his history of supporting corruption in chicago and the High murder numbers should be thumped over his head constantly.
His words do not match his life. He says this garbage so much though he really believes it. Kind of like hip-hop artists. who promote gangster images but are nothing of the like.
I agree – that is the issue I am focusing on the most – the Obama reaction and interaction with the Chicago Machine.
OT but does anyone know how many there were in Detroit? In Killadelphia? In New York? In the US as a whole? It’s got to be a staggering figure.
In looking at the most recent poll numbers, I can’t help but remember my Naval Science instructor in college, a Marine Major, describing the proper use of a reserve. He stressed that a reserve is used to exploit an opening in battle.
We now have an opening with eight weeks to go. This is not a signal for the cocktail hour. Rather, it is a signal for all of us who can to move out smartly, get in the game and do whatever we can to defeat Obama.
If you are sitting on the bench, suit up!
I tell everyone that this year requires more than just their vote. They must campaign, donate, register voters, make calls and talk to everyone about Obama vs. McCain. This is the MOST important election of our lifetime. Obama must lose and lose big. Can you even imagine what these pshco, crazy, hate-filled obots are going to do when he loses? Get ready. I cannot imagine it is going to be pretty!
“Obama must lose and lose big.” Losing big would be nice. Above all, he must lose.
agree.
think he must lose big or he won’t lose at all. if he loses by a little, he has enough connections to make it into a “win.”
So i guess Vince B that you are all talk?
I’ve proven my bona fides, where’s yours?
Sigh.
I cant believe Anderson Cooper is running with this Jews for Jesus smear on Palin. She wasnt even a member of the church at the time of the comments. I do think that could lead to a boomerang on Obama with a reairing of Wright.
haven’t seen the cooper thing, since haven’t watched cnn or msnbc since march (and never will again). but i can imagine the crap they’re pulling – they have no shame.
re opening the door on wright – so true. obama will scream like a baby at the unfairness of his church being brought up, despite his staff surely being behind whatever church-related smear they’re doing re palin, but we can hope that people are beginning to see through his bullshit.
Here’s my idea for an electoral win for McCain:
http://tinyurl.com/6r58h2
It’s based on polling trends projected into the near future.
A Gallup poll scheduled to be released Tuesday morning has McCain/Palin up with independents.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/09/independents-flock-to-mccain-after-convention/
[...] Gallup Poll Daily tracking results. Gallup Daily poll 08/08/08.” Similar numbers via No Quarter. Obama has decided to change the tone of the race; decidedly after Senator John McCain [...]
Geoff I think you are right. I think realistically McCain will get about 20% of former Hillary supporters-roughly 3.6 million. That’s a 7.2 million spread which Obama will have to overcome. Then I think the Bradley effect is good for at least 2%-3% of the total vote count. This election will hinge on Independents, young voters (who have the worst track record for actually showing up at the polls and voting), and I guess all those felons that now are being registered to vote. How many felons can we actually count on going to the polls to vote? Yeah, I’ll just tell the police where to find me. NOT!
So this is really a coin toss election and that makes me very nervous.
McCain/Palin ‘08
I think McCain can get 30% of former Hillary supporters. I’ve heard that figure used quite a bit, too, so it seems reasonable.
OT, but interesting from USA Today, http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-Inside-poll-GOP_N.htm:
Whooops, Howard, Barack.
Downticket Dems, take note. Whooops, Nancy, John.
I’m hearing the strains of Waterloo in the distance (thanks, carpetride) … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1QVhRDkFc0
Maybe some day, my browser will let the “link” button work for me. Til then, sorry, my “links” are in text form.
I doubt that this will be a “close run thing” at all.
Just Biden my time, with my squares, on the reverse slope, waiting for McPalin’s Horse to emerge from the woods.
Then, we’ll hound and harry the Bony One all the way back to his Chicago swamp lair.
Sweet Dreams Are Made of These, as Annie Lennox might say.
And I enjoyed the Napoleonic reference.
I’ll bet a huge number of of people in those polls are just saying they’re for Obama so as to avoid having their tires slashed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg
Thanks Susan,
While the numbers are close, they are encouraging.
Many Americans will realize that their vote is their VOICE, and I think they will swing to McCain and Palin!
Perilous times require leadership, and the citizens must take responsibility now!
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