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Obama seeks new low in decency

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Continuing his rudeness to women, Obama today unmistakeably trashed Governor Palin in a boorish manner that should be offensive to everyone, without exception.

See also: Ben Smith, who writes in Politico:

Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin’s new “change” mantra.

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

“We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

The crowd apparently took the “lipstick” line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: “lipstick.”

This is not the first time Obama has trashed women.

Shame on Obama, shame on the Democratic Party.

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Comment by Dtaylor | 2008-09-09 21:08:08

I am shocked.

Comment by valsthewoman | 2008-09-09 21:15:49

OBAMA JUST CAN’T FACE WHT HE DID TO HILLARY LOYAL SUPPORTERS. HE WILL NOT BE ELECTED. HE LOST IT TODAY BY THIS COMMENT. HE COULD HAVE SAID IF IT QUAKES LIKE A DUCK OR WALKS LIKE A DUCK IT IS STILL A DUCK. LOOK INTO THE CRYSTAL BALL
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/thunderingtowardsthefinishline.aspx

OABAMA IS A PIG WHO LIKES LIPSTICK ASK SINCLAIR

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-09 21:44:33

I’m more offended by the fish remark.

It’s a particularly offensive slur that’s been used by men in reference to female body odor for centuries. Don’t let the men commenting here pretend that they don’t know this. I used to be a bartendar. I had many opportunities to eavesdrop on locker room talk.

If 0bama had not followed up his pig remark with the fish one, I would have said, okay, he pushed the envelope, and I know he meant to call Palin a pig, but okay, he’ll slide.

But being the nasty misogynist that he is, he just had to underscore it with the fish remark. He meant it. This is who he is. He has no respect or like of women.

He is a most despicable prick.

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:02:36

I thought it referred to McCain (”old fish”). Obama has already used age cracks against McCain too. This guy is presidential? He’s so furious that Palin dared to criticize him that he can’t contain himself. How is he going to respond if a volatile foreign dictator insults him–with petulance and tantrum? Get the hook–he’s done.

Comment by PJ | 2008-09-09 22:28:30

It won’t bother him unless that person is a woman.

Comment by Leisa | 2008-09-10 00:32:47

Here is a quote for the day…

Any woman who understands the problems of running a home will be nearer to understanding the problems of running a country.

Margaret Thatcher

Obama’s campaign has officially been neutered… and he did the procedure himself.

 
 

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-09 22:29:26

Does it really matter whether these remarks are ageist or sexist? I don’t put anything past this guy and that is why I will not vote for him and am doing whatever I can to promote John McCain.

Good, let Barry continue on this course. It will all backfire quite nicely. He is imploding.

NC,considered a state in play, is now showing that McCain is up by almost 20 pts.

I guess we are not only clinging to our guns but also to our principles!

Boy, I sure do miss Hillary.

Hillary in 2012, all the way Baby!!!

Comment by chris | 2008-09-09 22:53:20

How can anyone think Obama is at all presidential when he says things like this and acts like he did on O’Reilly? I mean when have you ever seen anyone seeking to be the leader of a major world power act like and talk like this? What in the heck were the Dems thinking when they pushed him into the nomination? It’s beyond embarrassing for the USA. Are they truly that stupid? I guess the answer is yes they are. By the way, when is he going to remember that Sarah Palin is not his opponent? He is pathetic and juvenile in his obsession of her. Something is seriously wrong with him mentally. Yikes.

Comment by Andy Lewis | 2008-09-10 00:03:06

Kinda fucked up in the head, ain’t he?

Comment by Zeke | 2008-09-10 00:35:56

Andy my friend, you couldn’t have understated it any better…
:)

 
 
 

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-10 03:24:25

correct; they are self-destructing, as many of us predicted. they can’t help but pull the nasty, infantile, bullying shit we’ve seen highlighted since Palin’s selection. add that to serious, substantive problems with their nominee, and they’re going down.

 
 

Comment by LindaA1 | 2008-09-09 22:52:02

I thought the follow-up remark about fish referred to Todd Palin - he’s a fisherman by trade.

I would have let the lipstick remark slide since Obama has made the comment several times before, however I believe that slick sucker knew he could take the swipe and pass it off as a standard previous Obama comment.

But following up the lipstick snark with the fish snark sealed it for me as an intentional Sarah Palin - Todd Palin insult.

What a juvenile! Obama has thrown out this kind of immature crap on numerous occasions. Can you see it? Brown paper bag full of doggy doo-doo flaming on the front steps of the Russian Embassy. Echo of doorbell still ringing in the air. Barry running down the street giggling. Oh yeah! He’s so cool.

His supporters would label that charming foreign policy.

Comment by Joy | 2008-09-10 04:35:27

Let’s go for a 3fer.
Lipstick–Sarah
Old–John
Fish–Todd

Rag on the Beautiful O for his “sweetie” comment but not this one.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 04:44:27

Oh boy, another Obama supporter voting with their hormones.

You saw “Idiocracy” right? Please don’t vote and please don’t reproduce.

Comment by Joy | 2008-09-10 05:21:50

McCain used the lipstick remark to gin up the “Obama is sexist chant.” He may be but this comment was not aimed at Palin. You have no idea who I voted for in my state’s primary and caucus nor who I will vote for in November.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 05:57:13

I don’t know,” the Beautiful O” kind of gives it away.

Comment by Joy | 2008-09-10 23:20:44

No Problem No Clue, it’s called sarcasm. The Beautiful O comes from a birthday card that shows a Barack face on an Oprah body with the caption “The Beautiful O” and in side had the line “Have a Beautiful O Birthday”

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Comment by Garfield | 2008-09-10 23:34:30

Joy,
Here’s some blue collar sarcasm for you.

Obama is all foam and no beer.

Or how about, Obama is as smart as bait.

 

Comment by Joy | 2008-09-10 23:39:19

It’s good to know at least one person here has a clue. In Texas/Oklahoma it’s “All Hat and No Cattle.”

 
 
 
 

Comment by DanO | 2008-09-10 05:22:03

Don’t reproduce! LOL!

 
 

Comment by LindaA1 | 2008-09-10 12:14:28

You know, let’s say Obama didn’t really mean the lipstick remark as a slight to Palin.

Consider this: Since she made the lipstick joke in her speech, the word has become almost nationally synoNymous with Sarah Palin-Hockey Mom.

This was absolutely NOT lost on the Obama campaign - they can’t pretend that they didn’t hear it or know the coverage it got.

Soooo. Why would Obama be so stupid as to inadvertently open this can of worms by throwing out the lipstick reference when any fool in the country KNEW it would be seen as dig at Palin? HIS AUDIENCE CERTAINLY MADE THE CONNECTION - INSTANTLY!

So take your pick. Either the guy meant to insult Palin, or he’s oblivious to what’s going on in the country or he has again DEMONSTRATED HIS LOUSY JUDGMENT.

 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-09 23:24:18

fif –

We have been saying he’s toast since March 15th when all the Rev. Wright stuff came out.

But keep fighting — the media and the DNC (to cover their own shame and embarrassment at ever picking him) will probably cover his sorry behind until the bitter end.

The media will only turn if they truly smell blood in the water and it is to their financial advantage. They will do what sells the most papers — if that is to keep the “neck and neck” b.s. going, then they will do that.

Comment by Kathleen | 2008-09-10 05:23:35

Ani,

If Soros didn’t have his hand in controlling much of the media, I would agree that they will turn on obama “if they smell blood”.

Has there been any other candidate in American history who has gotten away with so many questionable affiliations, outright lies, gaffs and stupid mistakes and still be considered viable? NO!

Why? Because obama has many powerful forces behind his candidacy, who will take down America from the inside, “once and for all”. Soros and Zbigniew Brezinski are two of his most ardent supporters. Why? He’s obviously a neophyte with no real accomplishments.

I believe obama has been groomed to run for national office since his days at Columbia in NYC. Brezinski was a professor at Columbia at the same time obama was a student there. Strangely, just like there are no paper records available during obama’s tenure in the state senate (which is unprecedented), no one can find any paper trail relating to obama’s 4 years at Columbia.

IMO, obama’s candidacy has been planned for a long time and he has been groomed to be able to speak eloquently, saying nothing of substance, in an effort to fool the masses. He’s a perfect front man for those forces I fear will be the final straw, which will broke democracy’s back.

obama must be stopped, if for no other reason, because there are still far too many questions and huge gaps to his past, coupled with questionable power elites behind his meteoric rise to power, that have not been sufficiently answered for a person vying for the most powerful office in the world.

 
 

Comment by Miss H | 2008-09-10 01:38:03

This is how little men with loud mouths like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-il, and Barack Hussein Obama conduct their political affairs. I suggest Mr. Obama run for President of some other country. Women, who comprise slightly over 50% of the USA’s population like to be treated with respect. Let’s see if woman hater Obama wakes up on Nov.5th and finds out that “what goes around comes around”. I suggest intensive psychotherapy after the political a** whipping he is about to receive.

 
 

Comment by Republican Lady | 2008-09-09 22:26:04

The Democratic leaders turned down Hillary who is smart & classy for a nasty-mouthed Chicago thug. Is this what they want living in the white house & stinking up the place?

Comment by Tony in Texas | 2008-09-09 22:51:33

The Democratic Leadership gave the nomination to B. Hussein because they thought that a Young, Black man would seal the deal for them. Well, they got what they deserve.

I agree with Gerry Ferraro: If this guy was white he’d never gotten out of the IL State Senate.

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 22:35:19

Thanks for the background on the comment. I guess at 48 I’m a bit naive, but I didn’t pick up on the intent of this. (I asked a question about this later in this thread.)

Thanks.

 

Comment by McGovern08 | 2008-09-09 22:46:35

 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-09-09 22:59:30

Mimi, it’s like Obama is trying to lose. He needs female voters but yet uses terms like THAT. We know what it means. I’m guessing he wants to lose. Maybe he hopes he’ll be able to just disappear back into Chicago politics and go back to writing fiction. If he keeps getting vetted like this, he might wind up in jail. Who told him he could get through a national election without his past catching up to him and is he stupid enough to think he could get away with it?

Comment by brendy | 2008-09-10 01:31:08

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky - ” I’m guessing he wants to lose”

**

I don’t think he wants to lose; I just think the man’s STUPID!!! Do we WANT a STUPID PERSON in the White House?? He is MORE THAN SCARY!

 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-09 23:57:22

I am a 30something woman who lives in a big city and I knew EXACTLY what Obama was referring to when he said “old fish.” And trust me, if I know, most of the young men he caters to knew as well. Obama was most definitely making a snide comment about Palin’s private parts there as a double entendre. No-one can tell me Obama does not know what “fish” means in that context. I wrote about the fish connotation here:

http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/09/obamas-fish-comment-more-sexist-than-lipstick-on-a-pig/

I’ve left, gone to a class, and come home, and I’m still SHOCKED that Obama actually said this crap. Absolutely blew me away.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-10 01:45:19

Maybe you’re right, It puts me to mind of an old joke:

A blind man was walking past the fish market when he stopped and tipped his hat and said good afternoon ladies!

 

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 04:07:48

Yep, neither comment was by chance.

And while we’re on the subject, indelicate as it is, I’m sure you all know that particular odor is caused by a sexually transmitted disease - which always made me wonder how some guys could joke about it when they were going around infecting all their partners.

Just a public service announcement in case any of the Obama trolls ever get a date.

 

Comment by DanO | 2008-09-10 05:25:40

I still think the Old Fish comment referred to McCain. It makes a lot more sense. really.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-10 09:22:33

EXACTLY RIGHT!

I too have heard this insult used.

It’s placement in his speech tells the tale.

1) lipstick on the Palin Pig
2) wrappin the stinkin’ fish (Palin)

both insults were pointed at her. Many people who haven’t heard this slang and aren’t familiar with it…trust me, with a guy like Barry… he was talking about “the woman”.

 
 

Comment by Michael | 2008-09-10 01:19:11

The most sexist thing he said was:

“Look, she’s new, she hasn’t been on the scene, she’s got five kids. And my hat goes off to anybody whose looking after five. I’ve got two and they tire Michelle and me out,”

But, I hope he continues to attak her, since it will sink him faster.

 

Comment by DanO | 2008-09-10 05:13:52

Exactly.. by “old fish” he is referring to McCain.. so Sexism and Ageism… all in one speech! Well done Barry.. you just lost the election.

 

Comment by Dee | 2008-09-11 18:26:59

I feel the same way and resent the fact that the media is stopping the clip at “it’s still a pig”. It’s the next line that completes the insult but they don’t want people to see the truth. I’ve had enough of this chauvinist.

 
 
 

Comment by Steve | 2008-09-09 21:32:49

I didn’t think my fury at the democratic party could increase… I thought, after the way they and Obama treated Hillary, that I couldn’t despise what was happening to my party any more. Then Palin came out, and they insulted her immediately. After running a sexist campaign against Hillary and claiming her experience didn’t matter, or that her only experience was a stain on a dress, they turned around and ran an even more sexist campaign against Palin, suddenly saying experience DOES matter.

Like I said, I didn’t think my anger, disappointment, and shame at my party could get worse. But it has. THis isn’t the party I joined 16 years ago. What’s happened? Is it all the new people Obama’s brought in? Maybe our party was better off WITHOUT a fresh infusion of voters.

Because what Obama’s brought into the party, and what Obama himself is, is absolute scum. Sexist, vindictive, petty, lying, backstabbing scum.

I expect Democratic leaders to stand up to this. I expect them to make statements. I expect them not to cover for this. And if they don’t take measures to show that this is NOT what the democratic party stands for, I will leave the party. I’ve been hanging by a thread, telling myself I should still vote D down the line except for the presidency.

I’m not sure the democratic party even deserves that level of support anymore. And Hillary - they’ll hound her to come forward and say she doesn’t think what Obama said was offensive. I hope she doesn’t. Because it WAS offensive, and demeaning. She’s been good so far about not being sucked in. I hope she takes a step back from the campaign, even if she doesn’t make an official statement.

What I feel towards Obama is a deep, seething contempt. To think we had a chance of reclaiming the presidency after 8 years of republican misrule. And, acting out of his ego, knowing he was unqualified, he chased a qualified, powerful woman out of the race with baseless accusations of racism.

From this point on, I will not only refuse to vote for Obama myself - I will *actively* work to turn everyone I can against his campaign.

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-09 21:58:23

I don’t want them to make a statement. I want them to take 0bama into a back room and give him an old-fashioned ‘garden whipping.’ And then tell him he’s through, it’s over he’s stepping down so the Party can win the WH with Hillary.

I’m beyond platitudes and apologies. This man has bought a new level of disgust to national politics. He is actually making Bush seem not so bad. Freakin’ unbelievable.

The man is not presidential.

I told my husband what he said and he was absolutely stunned. And he voted for 0bama in the Primary. He just said that 0bama is making McCain seem like a statesman.

BTW, we’re AA.

I was voting McCain any way. I think 0bama just converted my husband.

0bama, please step down!

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 22:36:26

Bush is classy compared to Obama.

 
 

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-09 23:28:12

Steve –

Just know that the DNC was in on this fix from the beginning. The helped Obama at ever turn. This has been in the works for years. I would bet on it.

I, too, am very ashamed of the Democratic Party, so much so that my husband and I both left and became Independents after 30 years of voting a straight ticket.

No more. They will have to earn each and every vote they got from me.

Obama, of course, gets nothing.

 

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-09 23:30:49

Steve –

Just know that the DNC was in on this fix from the beginning. The helped Obama at ever turn. This has been in the works for years. I would bet on it.

I, too, am very ashamed of the Democratic Party, so much so that my husband and I both left and became Independents after 30 years of voting a straight ticket.

No more. They will have to earn each and every vote they got from me.

Obama, of course, gets nothing.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-10 01:11:45

That makes sense, too. With all the back room dealing and strategizing and planning, they must have thought they could get away with even as it unraveled before their eyes. They created a monster and couldn’t control it once it was set loose on the public.

 
 

Comment by Aunt Bea | 2008-09-10 03:31:56

Change your affiliation. I did after being a Dem for 54 years. I can tell you, it feels good. Very liberating.

Ask yourself, “What did I ever get from being a Democrat?” Particularly if you are woman. The answer is that you were taken for granted, taken advantage of, lied to, betrayed, etc. They will like you a lot better if you are an Independent.

 
 

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 21:35:11

Shocked?

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.

Even Parrothead “two drink minimum” biden couldn’t make this stuff up.

This is one non stop rollercoaster laff riot.

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 22:17:09

re: I’m shocked.”

nickoury: :YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.”

I do believe that was tongue-in-cheek! :)

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 22:29:30

I know, it was just a jumping off point, too good to pass up.

 
 
 

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 21:40:10

I’ve got it. It just dawned on me.

stinky and chuckles are having a contest to see who can out-foot-in-the mouth the other.

 

Comment by Obama's gums look sick | 2008-09-09 21:46:43

You are nice enough, Hillary.”
B. H. Obama, Dem nominee for POTUS

 
 

Comment by M. Simon | 2008-09-09 21:08:19

They have no shame.

Comment by Marie | 2008-09-09 21:35:00

They are dispicable.
http://downspalin.blogspot.com/
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31188_DUmmies_Hit_Bottom_Dig
Text reads:
Adorable special needs child desperately requires loving family. Used once as a prop during televised speech. Requires spit to style hair. Can shoot a rabbit with an air rifle at 35 feet. Mother is pushy social climber, unwilling to let pregnancy and children stand in way of ambition. Father unknown.

 
 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:09:04

Barack Obama: The Eddie Haskell Presidency.

Comment by DD | 2008-09-09 21:42:50

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Comment by Kato | 2008-09-09 22:04:21

This is hilarious. Perhaps we should join the BO revivals with signs of this sort.

 

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-09 22:11:06

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2008-09-09 21:09:30

not much suprises me that Obama and his supporters do after calling the Clintons racist. They’re all nuts.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-10 03:45:08

i think that’s when the obama campaign really lost a lot of people. those little punks trashed and slandered the best president this country’s had in 60 years, as well as his wife and partner, herself a successful two-term senator and virtual icon in the democratic party, all so they could prop up their lightweight, egomaniacal, america-hating thug of a candidate.

 
 

Comment by oy | 2008-09-09 21:10:27

I am in a state of shock since I first read it, and even more after I watched the video, in which his outrageously sexist intent became clear to all, especially to himself and to his audience. It takes his sexism to a new level.

That’s Gloria Steinem’s candidate for you…

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-09 21:15:23

Gloria can hang her head in shame.

Comment by Kato | 2008-09-09 22:02:26

Meh. Gloria’s a pig and an old fish. What’s she going to do about it? She’s always fought this bullshit. Let’s hold her feet to the fire on this one!

Comment by PJ | 2008-09-09 22:32:56

That’s harsh… but she really has disappointed me.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Tony Stark | 2008-09-09 21:10:51

As he sinks further in the polls, he will become even more desperate and throw everything including the kitchen sink at Palin. It will become a self perpetuating cycle. We are witnessing a candidate starting to self destruct.

Comment by knotfourhymn | 2008-09-09 22:40:40

I felt the unraveling began in June with the whiplash-speed of his flipflops on four or five issues.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 22:45:45

Popcorn, please! (But what a pig.)

 
 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:10:55

“This is not the vicious misogyny I knew.”

Comment by PJ | 2008-09-09 22:34:30

 
 

Comment by DD | 2008-09-09 21:10:57

Obama’s finest misogynist tactics.

Wow. Wait till “Bubba” hears about this one!

 

Comment by Joker | 2008-09-09 21:11:10

This is auful to say but I wish he had the balls to say that to me…….A proud Vet for McCain

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:17:37

I wish he had the balls

Outsourced - to Larry Sinclair…

Comment by PJ | 2008-09-09 22:35:56

 

Comment by knotfourhymn | 2008-09-09 22:44:08

Unauthorized opening of package by J. Jackson…

Comment by Zeke | 2008-09-10 00:42:02

Damn!!!
ROFLMAO!

 
 

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 01:46:52

ROFLMAO good one Mr. Natural!

 
 

Comment by navyvet48 | 2008-09-09 23:39:18

Me too and I am a female veteran! Obamba needs to apologize come clean or something…oops! that was a funny when he has ever come clean on anything?

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 01:48:44

Maybe that’s why MEEEchelle calls him stinky :-D

 
 
 

Comment by CarlaforHillary | 2008-09-09 21:14:34

This is a disgusting comment made by Obama.

 

Comment by It's Not Me | 2008-09-09 21:15:50

Oy Vey!

Open mouth, insert foot and piss off every woman with a brain. OBVIOUSLY, the Democratic Party has decided the female vote is not needed.

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-09-10 06:50:38

Obama: The OOPS I did it again candidate.

I saw on TV this morning that Al Gore’s former campaign manager said Obama needs to be really careful not to level any personal attacks on Sarah.

OOPSie

 
 

Comment by Hispana | 2008-09-09 21:16:42

Barry is getting very nervous. Even ole Karl Rove is hinting that he out to take this back. Greta is getting inundated by emails about this ridiculous statement. pig = lipstick republicans = pigs with lipstick?
Big screw up.

Comment by Hispana | 2008-09-09 21:19:05

Stupid comment and I am sure he will not be sleeping over this one.

Comment by Tony in Texas | 2008-09-10 00:13:20

If you think he’s having a hard time sleeping, just think about Howie Dean and “Aunt Jemimah” Brazile. They’re undoubedly saying: “Oh God, on November 4th my career in the Democratic Party is over”.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-09-10 00:44:20

They’ll be on the plane to Kenya with Barry… what Howie will do once there is anyone’s guess. Mine is he’ll be their Lawn Jockey.

 

Comment by Fredster | 2008-09-10 01:03:33

They’re undoubedly saying: “Oh God, on November 4th my career in the Democratic Party is over”.

And hallelujah to that! Can’t happen fast enough!

 

Comment by brendy | 2008-09-10 01:39:33

“Aunt Jemimah” Brazile - LOL! Good one!

 

Comment by brendy | 2008-09-10 01:41:26

“Aunt Jemimah” Brazile - LOL! Please don’t insult ‘Aunt Jemimah’ by comparing her with Brazile! LOL!

 
 
 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:22:44

Sadly, he’ll hear only the cheers of his rabid sycophants.

Comment by Hispana | 2008-09-09 21:26:08

Oh, this is not sitting well with women.
First he gives HRC the finger and now he just has another diarrhea moment.

 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-09-10 06:52:03

exactly

The losers in that hall ate it up.

 
 
 

Comment by mrduffin | 2008-09-09 21:16:47

I understand Michelle was in the audience and he was looking at her when he made the pig comment. The “old fish smell” was about Michelle also from what I hear

Comment by QUEENIE | 2008-09-09 22:28:06

OH HECK NO.. SHE WAS ON THE ELLEN SHOW DANCING AND DOING THE BRUSH OFF THE SHOULDER CRAP ..WITH ELLEN..I AM BOYCOTTING THEM ALL NOW!

opps sorry about caps..but i don’t want to retype.

:)…sorry

Comment by PJ | 2008-09-09 22:39:10

Former Ellen fan…

That shoulder brush really pissed me off.

 
 
 

Comment by APark | 2008-09-09 21:18:08

I turned briefly to CNN and they’re already spinning this as the McCain camp taking an old, familiar phrase and trying to use this to attract woman voters. Will they ever hold Obama acccountable for his own actions?

Hillary was just dirt to be brushed off his shoulders and Sarah Palin is a pig with 5 kids that she “handles”. Is this Presidential???

Obama is a sexist, immature, egotistical POS!!!!

Comment by Jacques | 2008-09-09 21:35:03

CNN, Obama’s verbal gaffe reworking center.

Comment by tminu | 2008-09-09 22:31:26

That’s called the “WORM” network (what Obama Really Meant)

 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:08:39

On Fox they were doing the same thing. Howard Wolfson said it was “ridiculous” to make the connection between Palin and the remark. Of course, Colmes was sputtering out his usual Obama talking points and WORM-ing for him. To suggest that this comment was a coincidence and had nothing to do with the most talked about joke in Palin’s first week is utterly stupid. OF COURSE he knew what he was saying and why. We saw him do the exact same thing with Hillary Clinton repeatedly. It’s fine though, because I am sure this comment is already ricocheting around the country, rallying the base and women even more.

Heck of a job Baracky!

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-09 23:49:13

You don’t have to guess what he means. Just look at him when his audience reacts…you know that’s what they think too and he knows they get it. They reacted with grins and actually gave him standing applause. Just as they did when he gave Hillary the finger. He’s crass, crude and completely without social refinement of any kind. You notice he never tries to disavow…he just goes on to the next insult. While they’re reacting with glee, we’re feeling repulsed. If he, indeed, “didn’t mean it that way,” then he’s a completely ineffectual communicator. So which is it Barry? Crude and unrefined or just plain stupid?

 
 

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 22:28:19

Speaking of the “brushing off of shoulders”, did any one catch Michelle on the Ellen D. show dancing out onto the stage? She actually incorporated the “brush off” into her dance moves! So obvious. So immature. So rude.
I just can’t believe that the likes of these people will tarnish the White House and America!

McCain/Palin 2008

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-09 22:34:51

Please, someone find a u tube clip of this and get it posted PLEASE!!!!

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-09-10 00:54:53

Comment by Fredster | 2008-09-10 01:07:30

HA! That gawky inelegant thing wants to be the first lady? I don’t think so!

As Sugar calls Michelle on her blog: scoop-mouth

 

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 02:00:05

What trash this woman is and the have the balls to call all of us who aren’t voting for them white trash and uneducated.

My mom, god rest her soul, always said that no matter how educated you may be, or how many degrees you’ve earned, there are 2 things you can’t learn anywhere but at home and they are morals and common sense. Mom was always right and here are two examples of total trash that prove mom’s wisdom.

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 02:02:47

I’m sorry I am referring to the Obamunist and MEEEchelle, not Ellen.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 22:44:57

Yes, where is the clip?

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 22:48:47

They had a clip of this on Fox News today.

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 23:07:13

I just saw it again on Bill O’Reilly…I just noticed that Ellen(dancing)ALSO did the “brush off” move following Michelle’s oh-so-cleverly cute(NOT!)lead.

 
 

Comment by Andy Lewis | 2008-09-10 00:18:57

 
 

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-09-10 00:52:25

yes i saw that. unbelievable. they still think they can win this thing! what crass, crude people!

 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-09-10 06:55:05

You’re really stretching it by referring to any movement executed by Ellen DeGeneres “dancing”…

she just kind of flails around and tries to find a rhythm in those moves, somewhere, ANYWHERE there’s got to be a beat

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 22:50:57

Oh, I missed the old familiar phrase about stinking fish except when applied to house guests. In this case, Obama has worn out his welcome a long time ago.

 
 

Comment by NewHampster | 2008-09-09 21:18:21

Barry is just being Barry. Nothing new except now he’s no longer the big star, Sarah is.

Now the press hits him and won’t let it pass. Don’t pick on the girl Barry. You’ll regret it.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-09-09 21:21:51

Obama-yesterdays news!

 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:25:29

picking on one woman - was a campaign.

picking on two women in a row - is a pattern.

 

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 22:35:02

“Nothing new except now he’s no longer the big star, Sarah is.”

And all this with the obamagasms of the media trying their best to destroy her!

Comment by UBM | 2008-09-10 00:47:58

Let’s see if Sarah bears up as well as Obama did against those who tried their best to destroy him. (Fox News, Limbaugh, Mark Penn, PUMAs.)

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-10 01:08:52

LOL!…Once again you are comparing your PRESIDENTIAL candidate to our VICE Presidential candidate!
Do you not know how WEAK that is? LOL!

Comment by UBM | 2008-09-10 01:22:52

I’m comparing smear-target to smear-target. So far, Team McCain is treating Sarah “Moose Killah” Palin like a hothouse flower, who can’t speak on the stump without a chaperone.

Let’s see if she can take a punch.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-10 03:55:03

why do you give a flying flip about her? do you see anybody on this board saying anything about biden? nobody cares; the contest is mccain vs. obama, but your boy knows he can’t take on mccain so he’s going after the vp candidate. like the other poster said: WEAK.

 

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 04:21:09

You’re complaining about Palin when Obama gave the same tired hopey changey speech for two years and got his ass kicked in every debate?

I bet it won’t take Sarah two years to get a rudimentary grasp of the issues like Odumba.

 
 
 

Comment by Miss H | 2008-09-10 02:13:37

Obama destroys himself; he is on autodestruct.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Faye | 2008-09-09 21:18:29

What if this had been a republican saying this about B.O.? What would be the reaction from the MSM?
B.O. has been getting a free ride for the past year and half by the MSM for anything he says that anyone else would have been crucified for uttering. B.O. still does not GET IT!!!
Over 56% of the voters thinks the MSM is the tank for B.O. and are trying to ruin Palin.
Keep it up ole knuckles draggers keep it up till Nov.4th. Please.
B.O.Plenty, yeah that’s my new nick name for Barky.

 

Comment by Stilskins | 2008-09-09 21:18:52

It’s pretty clear he’s talking about McCain’s policies when he says this. The interesting thing is the McCain camp’s response, throwing around the gender card. Considering McCain said the same thing about Hillary last year, I don’t see how you could make any credible argument that it’s an attack against Sarah Palin.

Comment by Gal from Tex | 2008-09-09 21:25:09

MSM and Obama camp can spin this all they want to avoid accountabilty but one thing they forget..it is our perception and how we the people saw it. And frankly it was pretty lewd. Bambi has no honor. How sad it’s all come to this.

Comment by chris | 2008-09-09 23:05:45

All you have to do is check out the reaction by the crowd behind him and his smirky smile while he said it. No one can realistically not get it. It was a typical remark that he and his enablers will try to pass off as “not what he meant”. Again they fail to understand that most Americans are not that dense or stupid. We get the double meaning. It was a horrible and tasteless remark. I hope this is the end game for him and that his polling numbers tank big time. He is beyond bad.

 
 

Comment by Patx3 | 2008-09-09 21:27:16

Stilskins,

doubt anyone could make a credible argument that you have a brain.

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 21:43:14

 

Comment by Stilskins | 2008-09-09 22:48:19

It sounds like I was right about you at least not being able to come up with a credible argument. Some of the others tried, but you evidently were unable to. With the level of critical thinking that you’ve exhibited, you once again demonstrate why we’ve had two terms of George W. Bush in the White House, and how we are possibly looking at a 3rd term. Do you see what I did there? XD

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:00:38

The argument was solid to begin with. Obama was not talking about policy, because he changes his frequently. Obama wants to get elected, and that’s it. He’s a sociopath, and his opponents are not people with whom he disagrees. They are obstacles that he must destroy. He will use sexism, play the race card, attack a veteran’s honor, willingly lie about his own record and often while he attacks his opponent for the same thing.

LIPSTICK PIG STINKS LIKE FISH = Well-known misogynist comments about women. It was specifically directed at McCain’s VP who Obama is obsessed with. She is more popular than him, more experienced than him while she is the #2 on her ticket, and she kicked his ass with her speech which was better than his.

Comment by UBM | 2008-09-10 00:52:51

The irony, of course, is that John McCain is known to have called his wife the c-word in public. (I trust Keith Olbermann will point this out tomorrow evening.)

Comment by Dr. Kate | 2008-09-10 00:57:11

always full of crap, no references.

yawn.

Comment by UBM | 2008-09-10 01:07:21

Just Google the words “McCain” and “[c-word]” and you’ll find references aplenty, Doc.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-10 01:20:37

Yeah, we know he did it. They were arguing. Some couples let loose with the profanity when they fight.

However, John McCain is not running against his wife. Sexism is political. In this case with Obama, it means restricting women’s job opportunities by defining them in purely sexual terms. That is when you cross the line from verbal abuse to hate speech.

Comment by UBM | 2008-09-10 01:49:11

Well, Hope… you work your angle, I’ll work mine.

I do bet you a buck, however, that Olbermann mentions the McCain ‘c-word’ incident tomorrow. I think he’s trying to out-character-assassin Sean Hannity.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-10 04:20:49

won’t matter; we all know he’s in the tank for obama, and probably has a man-crush on him as well. we pick the lesser of two evils, and right now, the sexism from the obamacrats far surpasses what come from the repugs. that, and obama’s an america-hating, islam-loving, foreign, professional-whiner, kool-aid cult leader.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
 
 

Comment by DanO | 2008-09-10 06:22:31

Well done UBM.. you’re pushing the bar even lower. You just make me feel even more right in hating Obama if you like him.

 
 
 

Comment by LandOLincoln | 2008-09-10 08:49:36

Sure thing, UBM. You just cling to that the way us old, bitter deadenders cling to our guns etc.

McCain said it once, twenty years (or more) ago, wasn’t it?
Call me gullible, but it looks to me as though Cindy has forgiven him for it.

& by the by, sweetie: when Meeechelle Obama has done a fraction of the charity work Cindy McCain has done, or maybe if she were just to decline the 200% raise she got when Mr. Hopey Changey earmarked hundreds of thousands of dollars for her employer–you know, that hospital where her primary task is dumping steering uninsured patients (i.e. poor blacks) to “other facilities?”– then maybe you could mention her name in the same breath as Cindy McCain’s–or Cindy’s short-tempered husband’s, for that matter.

Finally, you would do well to remember what pumas do to jackasses, whenever their paths cross. Yummm! ;-)

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:30:06

I don’t see how you could make any credible argument that it’s an attack against Sarah Palin.

Of course you don’t.

BTW, for future reference, when Obama changes the koolaid flavor to grape - run.

Comment by Zeke | 2008-09-10 00:52:23

Natch,
Dammit! Now you went and told….
This is seriously going to affect the betting!
Next time, think first before letting the cat out of the bag.
What the hell am I going to do with all this fucking grape koolaid?

 
 

Comment by oy | 2008-09-09 21:37:55

Ridiculous. At that time, Hillary had never made any reference to herself and lipstick, and the entire context made it clear that the healthcare policy was what was being discussed. The tone was not snide nor demeaning.

On the other hand, the video of this disgusting slur is as clear as it gets: he was pleased with his “joke”, the crowd roared in delight (”He’s so clever! Ha!”), and the joke Mrs Palin had made is still quite fresh in everyone’s memory.

Comment by D | 2008-09-09 22:13:22

Obama does seem to think he’s the master of cleverly placed snide comments and gesters with plausible deniability. He needs to learn how to cover that proud smirk that always follows.

Who does that remind me of?? Oh, yes, W. Same pattern of disrespect and denial.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-10 04:26:05

yep. the nick-name “Smirk” could apply as well to barky as to W.

 
 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-09 23:56:43

And her joke was about herself and Hockey Moms. He tries to compete but the reason it doesn’t work is that she gave funny zingers back countering their insulting attacks (made before she ever said a word) and the sarcasm and ridicule was deserved. When he tries to emulate it, it falls flat and doesn’t work.

Comment by just me | 2008-09-10 02:24:48

yes all comes back and hits him in the kisser…

What a shambles he is

 
 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:11:00

Yea, lipstick on a pit bull and lipstick on a pig–no connection there. Would you like another glass of Kool Aid?

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-09 22:12:14

But he used metaphors that have been used historically as slurs against women. Slurs that show a point of view that women are inferior, and can be treated disrespectfully. He could have used different metaphors and succeeded. But he chose to go with these.

Clearly shows his real feelings in no uncertain terms.

And he has daughters. Daughters who will one day compete in the world. Guess he has no caring about how they will be treated.

Scumbag!

 

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-09 22:37:45

When did McCain say this aobut Hillary? Also, this remark is so offensive because it is NOT the first time he has acted so offensively in his regard for a woman who has the nuts to actually confront him.

Comment by NomNomNom | 2008-09-10 09:40:21

he did not say it about Clinton exactly, he said it about her health care policy, but it probably was meant to be inferred:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/us/politics/12health.html?ex=1349841600&en=e7ba7b3d84dddc97&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Elizabeth Edwards also used the phrase to describe McCain’s health care proposal.
Apparently there are a lot of cosmetically enhanced swine out there.

 
 

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 23:15:42

Stilskins: you’re a rumpled old curmudgeon with a serious attitude issue. It looks like the regulars are going to have fun cannibalising on you. When they get to the brain there won’t be much to eat.

 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-09 23:52:33

His audience knew exactly what he meant. The laughs and grins started before he got the 2nd line out. And he made no attempt to say differently. He knew they got it. You are as crass as he is.

 
 

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:19:22

Is Oblatherer trying to lose the election on purpose? He is certainly on that path.

Comment by csuzeq | 2008-09-09 21:23:22

Don’t look a gift pig in the mouth!

 

Comment by Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose? | 2008-09-10 06:59:50

he’s one of those subconscious self-destructors.

And he has an entire party leadership enabling him.

Not to mention the MSM.

 
 

Comment by mrbubbs | 2008-09-09 21:19:33

Give me a break — it’s an age-old expression. If you think Obama wsa insulting Palin, then McCain called Clinton a pig.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/obama_did_not_call_sarah_palin.php

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s plan, he said it was “eerily reminiscent” of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” he said of her proposal.

Comment by APark | 2008-09-09 21:24:00

The difference is McCain was clearly making reference to her proposal. Obama was subtly using the term because Palin used it in her convention speech. If he didn’t do it intentionally, he used terrible judgement and looks like a sullen, spoiled bully.

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:32:29

Like he says so often, “Words Matter.”

This was not a casual slip.

Comment by tminu | 2008-09-09 22:34:12

Was 57 (Islamic) states another clever snarkyism?

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:02:12

He’s a Muslim.

Comment by OBSP | 2008-09-10 01:59:40

Thank you! No one will say it.

 

Comment by Miss H | 2008-09-10 02:30:00

Yes, Barack Hussein Obama himself stated that he is a Muslim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

 
 
 

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-09 22:40:26

No, it was not a casual slip. Watch the replay. He was very thoughtful as he delivered his remarks. Notice how slow he spoke and how he shaded his eyes as he said it. He spoke slowly to give everyone in the audience time to actually digest the double meaning.

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 22:52:51

Thoughtful Idiot that he er,um,uh,is!

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-09 23:37:44

Oh for heaven’s sake!

Palin’s remark was the top headline the day after her speech. It was all over the news cycles and print headlines. Somebody should count how many newspapers carried it!

And in case people didn’t get that he was taking a swipe at her, he underscored it with one of the oldest,vilest, contemptible slurs about women. Fish = female genitalia.

He meant it. It was intentional. He hates women. He hates his mother. He’s petty, vindictive, and small.

0bama is a nasty piece of work. A disgusting prick.

Bottom line: not presidential at all!

 
 

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:27:56

The context is different. I interpret McCain’s comment as relating to the proposal only not to Hillary personally. Obama seems to be referring to his two opponents under the guise of being critical of policy. In other words Obama is taking part in a double entendre. We’ll see how the general public interprets this. I think it hurts Obama. Nice try on your part though. :)

Obama cried racist/wolf too much. He shouldn’t be surprised that his opponents are going to pick apart everything he says now. Popcorn anyone?

 

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-09-09 21:29:53

You could not be more wrong.

Obama measures his words very carefully and given Palin’s famous line last week, this was a statement that targeted her.

We are seeing more and more who Obama really is. He is hyper-sensitive to even a hint of racism. But he has not qualms injecting blatant sexism.

We are seeing a different Obama now that he is desperate. He has anger management problems and is not used to losing.

Comment by athena | 2008-09-09 21:35:29

Last time he lost he sulked and considered never entering politics again. Oh could we be so lucky?

Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 21:47:39

No, no, no.

stinky has to run in every election he possibly can, of course he’ll never win.

This is just too funny to ever stop, it’s the comic relief every elect needs.

 
 

Comment by wonderwoman | 2008-09-09 21:36:49

I ‘ve always though he had a problem with women. It seems to be targeted more towards white women. This is perplexing considering he is half white. I think this stems from from his mother and grandmother some how. Freud would have a field day with this guy.

Comment by yttik | 2008-09-09 21:50:24

When I was reading his books, I really started to dislike Obama’s mother. She never took his needs as a kid into account, it was always all about her. She re-married and drug him off to Indonesia. She then sent him to live with her parents when he became inconvenient. (And what kind of parents name their daughter Stanley and then tell her she’s named after the son they always wanted?)

Anyway, yes I can see somebody being raised by Obama’s mother and developing a real problem with women. She made me angry.

Comment by HT | 2008-09-09 22:05:33

delurking, just to advise that Obama’s memoirs have been proven to be major league fantasies. I am not suggesting that his mother was the greatest mother in the universe, but do you have any proof, other than Obama’s that his mother was the worst? We already know Obama is a masterful obfuscator and diddles with truth.

 

Comment by Mary | 2008-09-09 22:09:35

Well, he paints his life with Stanley Ann as ideal & pushes her as the perfect Mother. Of course reasonably educated people understand differemtly. He & he alone is responsible for his hate & inside meaness as a human.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:04:20

He never visited her when she died. No love lost between the two of them IMO.

 
 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-09 23:14:12

I don’t think it’s white women, it’s just that he is having to compete with white women to win the Presidency. I definitely think it’s women in general he has issues with. The first opponent he stuck a knife into in his unstoppable rise was Alice Palmer - an African-American woman.

He likes women who worship him, other than that he has no use for us. I mean in the history of American Presidential politics has there EVER been anything like ‘Obama Girl’? Nope.

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-09 23:47:54

Oh yes, let’s really talk finally!

IT’S ALL WOMEN!

Michelle is a political beard. He could not have competed for the White House as a bachelor.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-10 01:23:59

You saw what the daughters thought of Obama Girl. I hope they grow up with more sense than their parents.

 

Comment by brendy | 2008-09-10 01:56:48

The fact that - in his run to the presidency, the women who have/are standing in his way have been/are white, but I think he’s using and degrading ALL FEMALES - of ALL colors! He’s just using ALL WOMEN for their votes!

 
 
 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:18:21

He’s not using to losing, because he hasn’t ever had to compete without major party leaders and thuggery assisting him. Now, he has a real, unregulated competition on his hands and he is falling apart.

 
 

Comment by WMCB | 2008-09-09 22:11:07

If Hillary had just prior to McCain’s remark referred to herself in front of a 30 million TV audience as a pit bull with lipstick, and if that comment was the talk of the town, then YES it would have been a swipe at Hilary.

Context is everything.

And the problem is, when you’ve already run a sexist misogynist campaign, you DON’T get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:14:17

Did Clinton happen to give a major speech within the week using lipstick as a key ingredient in a joke?

You are desperately reaching for yet another Obama justification. The extremes of denial practiced by Obamabots is obviously unlimited.

 

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 23:17:02

Bubbs bubbs bubbs. Bye bye bubbs. Go before they eat you alive, wee one.

 
 

Comment by SnipeHunter | 2008-09-09 21:20:03

So far today Obama has called Palin a “Liar” and now he calls her a “Pig”. He said that Hillary gets irrational “periodically”. What is his problem with women? After looking at this poll numbers for the last few days all would have to conclude that it has been a “bad time of the month” for him.

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 23:20:09

What is his problem with women?

Maybe Larry Sinclair’s had the answer all along. ;)

 
 

Comment by NOBAMA-NO-NO | 2008-09-09 21:20:13

The best comment I read on some blog was:

This is equivalent to McCain saying:

(About Obama’s refusal to divulge details about his relationships with Ayers and Rezko)
“It’s like trying to get the recipe for Fried Chicken from Sanders.”

OR
(About Obama’s environmental consciousness)
“He’s a watermelon, green on the outside, red on the inside.”

Incredible. This is a game changer folks. The real Obama is about to come out.

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-09-09 21:23:34

Women are Obama’s button. You want to throw him off-balance? Make him compete with a woman. It makes him crazy.

Comment by wonderwoman | 2008-09-09 21:43:52

Keep in mind Obama has never had to compete with a formidible man like McCain. That Black Panther guy beat him very badly in Ill. So he focuses on the woman(remember his first opponent) Someone he thinks he can easily beat.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-09 21:44:06

Yes, I think it’s getting more obvious too. Like he was axed at being confronted with another woman and since then attacking her personally–besides not being very presidential, it shows it is his issue and as was said above, he isn’t used to losing. I think he’s going to have a big tantrum some day soon.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:20:44

LOL! It is perfect karma isn’t it? He thought he was finally rid of a strong, competent woman opponent, and now he’s running against another!

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-09 23:19:12

I think the Repubs picked up on that, they are pretty damn good at psychologial warfare.

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 23:22:36

I think everybody in this thread has a good observation on Obama. I think it’s ALL true! AND I LOVE IT! lolz

 
 
 

Comment by WestPalm2008 | 2008-09-09 21:28:04

Actually, I think the equivalent would be McCain saying something about a “tar baby.”

Both the pig/lipstick saying and tarbaby saying have “legitimate” contexts of use without double entendre…. but when used by snivilling immature sycophants, they can also be used to insult or degrade.

Comment by brendy | 2008-09-10 02:02:49

What about that congressman (or whatever) in TN who made the statement that he didn’t want “that boy” (Obama) anywhere near the button…Obama’s camp had a major FIT! EVERYBODY knows in the South that everybody calls someone younger or less experienced than them a ‘boy’. Since when does the black community have special privy to everyday words, such as ‘boy’? I playfully call my own 24 year old son ‘boy’…just like Tarzan and Jane did.

That TN congressman had to apologize.

 
 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:36:10

Hopefully they can goad Obama into erupting on camera.

 
 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-09-09 21:20:50

I see why kos has an affinity for Obama. They are frat boys who don’t do a damn thing, but they snark about everybody else.

Obama makes fun of slogans line “drill baby drill.” Nice work on attacking the issues.

Obama, kool-aid drinkers, left blogistan, all snark and no action.

 

Comment by We Will Remember in November! | 2008-09-09 21:20:53

Pitiful…just pitiful.

 

Comment by SJ | 2008-09-09 21:23:34

Hey Obama read my lipstick……bye bye!!!!

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 22:23:26

 

Comment by tminu | 2008-09-09 22:38:32

Oh, I can SEE the placard signs now

great big lipsmack prints

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-09 23:17:12

Perhaps we need to send a few tubes of lipstick to the unHOLY ONE!

 
 
 

Comment by Elle | 2008-09-09 21:23:40

Sexism we can not ever believe in !
Disgusting indeed !

 

Comment by insix | 2008-09-09 21:25:39

wow….BO’s ship is truly sinking!

 

Comment by Monet | 2008-09-09 21:25:40

Is Senator Obama’s speech writer a Republican operative? I’m beginning to think Karl Rove has infiltrated the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign. How else can one explain the idiotic moves the DNC has made and the stuff that comes out of Obama’s mouth? The DNC should have had a cakewalk into the White House this year and they’ve blown it every step of the way.

Senator Obama is smart enough to know that the lipstick comment was going to turn people sitting on the fence away and possibly even offend some of the Kol-aid drinkers. So who persuaded him it was a good thing to say? Especially when he’s falling in the polls?

Comment by athena | 2008-09-09 21:29:34

My husband thinks he doesn’t really want to be President. He just wants the fame, notoriety and the money train that comes with the book deals, senior position in the party, etc……

Comment by wonderwoman | 2008-09-09 22:11:49

I thought of that before athena, but if he looses he won’t have a place in the party. Look at John Kerry. Even the Kennedy’s are yesterday’s news. Jimmy Carter is barely hanging on. I do think he loves fame. The movie is be written as we speak. First- AA to get a nomination.

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 02:40:25

Hey now we’ve already had an AA president…President David Palmer LOL

Now that’s one rugged, strong, handsome hunka man who I would certainly have voted for if he was running for POTUS. Not the skinny skanky-assed, prissy, arrogant POS Oblowme :-P

like this

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 02:42:04

 
 
 
 

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:32:21

It really doesn’t matter who wrote it or why he said it. He said it and no one forced him to say it. The buck stops here with Obama. Or at least it is supposed to. He is obviously not presidential material and way out of his Chicago league.

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-09 21:37:50

The buck stops here with Obama.

“This is not the buck I knew.”

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:04:58

Why do you think Obama wants to be a citizen of the world?

So he can pass the buck and adopt the euro.

Barry, my utter disgust with your behavior is only matched by the utter joy i feel right now knowing the closest you will ever get to the White House is by invitation to a state function.

Suck it Plastic Jesus.

 
 

Comment by Monet | 2008-09-09 21:49:09

Actually, if someone within his campaign persuaded him to say it, I want to know who it was. If Senator Obama wins, more than likely this person will follow along to the West Wing and have influence on his presidency. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to check the background of anyone in his campaign who thought that line was a good idea.

 

Comment by Andrew | 2008-09-09 23:42:00

No, the buck doesn’t stop with BHO. It’s above his pay grade.

 
 

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 21:46:57

My theory is that Obama is a pathological habitual liar. With that comes many other manipulative defects in behavior, attitude and thinking. Anger and not being able to deal with setbacks may be one of them. So IMO what you are witnessing is an illness, a man in need of therapy. That’s why I think it would be good if his medical records be made public.

Comment by Miss H | 2008-09-10 02:51:13

A physician on a talk radio program spoke about how thin Obama is. Could be AIDS or hepatitis from his drug days. His lips are very purple….anoxia? Where are those medical records?

 
 

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 22:30:52

I’m beginning to think Karl Rove has infiltrated the Democratic Party

I’ve been wondering that myself. Whenever you can say, “It couldn’t have turned out better if they had planned it.”, they probably did.

We (or should I say they because I’m now an Indy) had this election in the bag after 8 yrs of Bush. The Dems are the From the Jaws of Victory party!

 
 

Comment by Hillblazer_10 | 2008-09-09 21:25:49

Disgusting.

If anyone is a pig, it would have to be you Barack.

 

Comment by fiscalliberal | 2008-09-09 21:26:53

This could have been a dumb mistake among many. The question is: do we want a guy like this representing us on the Internaitonal Stage?

He just does not have the experience in a lot of area’s.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 21:29:20

Don’t mix the two–he is a ‘citizen of the world celebrity’! One that happens to be a sexist pig.

 
 

Comment by AnnieO | 2008-09-09 21:27:35

Today is the first time I’ve ever heard that saying, but I just read somewhere that the original saying is “put perfume on a pig”.

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 21:27:49

There have been comments all over the place this evening. I can’t see how Obama can talk his way out of this. It was painfully embarrassing to see Wolfson try to explain this away. My apolitical wife watch the clip and Wolfson comments and said BS. It is very, very clear who Obama was talking about. It so reminds me of the dusting his shoulders video a few months back.

 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-09 21:28:29

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Comment by nickoury | 2008-09-09 21:29:11

Hey stinky, keep taking “STUPID” pills.

 

Comment by James | 2008-09-09 21:29:42

Can someone make a sexist comment video compilation about Obama? Maybe McCain should play this angle, show his sexist comments from Hillary Clinton to Sarah Palin and let the viewers be the judge.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 21:48:54

Excellent idea! I’ve been thinking about writing up an indictment, if you will, of Obama’s rude and sexist comments toward women.

Can everyone post links to clips and share Obama’s quotes (with links to sources) here in this thread, else email me at matthew@theindependentview.com.

I can work with individual clips, anyone good at compiling them together, maybe with simple splash screen before each with date and place?

Matthew

 

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 21:49:26

I think that if Obama does not appologize, McCain will make that video.

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:12:18

 
 
 

Comment by Jim S | 2008-09-09 21:30:43

I usually try to walk on the high side of the road, but I think I can cross over and slide down into the gutter for a second. This sexist, racist, anti American, socialist, Muslim loving, piss poor excuse for a human being should resign. Not from just the run for the presidency, but from life. While your at it take your racist, lipstick on a pig wife with you.

Comment by Cat in NJ | 2008-09-09 21:42:54

 
 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-09 21:31:42

Equating papers with fishwrap, certain to make the media a fan of him to new degrees….

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 21:53:07

Anyone know the history of this fish statement? I understand the connotation but not where this statement originates.

Comment by they shoe horses don't they | 2008-09-10 05:05:11

Matthew, the dead fish old fish thing has long been equated with pussy. I first heard it in the form of an Ole and Lena joke. It has long been a classic…Mimi is absolutely right. The ironic thing about it is that the male sperm is what smells like fish, not the pussy. That is what makes me laugh. What a great reason for unmarried women to request a condom.

 
 
 

Comment by IronMan | 2008-09-09 21:31:48

Obama is getting in a bad place now with his campaign and is losing his cool. The pattern of what he is doig is obvious. It is called slash and burn politics, and Obama and his Obamabots are sinking to the lowest of the low. Pathetic!

The Obama-Biden team is absolutely losing it. Obama can’t handle the pressure. His attacks are ridiculous!! Obama’s comments are unconscionable!! Just more proof that Obama is not fit to be POTUS!!

Joe Biden said today that electing Sarah Palin, a woman, as the next Vice President of the United Statesit would be a ’step backward for women.’

At another Obama-Biden rally today, the one introducing said the following about Sarah Palin: ‘There’s no way you can dress up that record even with a lot of lipstick.”

So it is clear the attack Palin at all cost was the theme of the day for the Obama-Biden good old boys.

America is sick and tired of that kind of politics.

Democrats, especially women that supported hillary Clinton, know all too well the kind of underhabnded, sexism that took place. And Obama and the DNC elites were and the MSM were the biggest cheerleaders of it all.

Enough. Is. Enough.

I’m a man and I am VERY angry about what Obama said. I also spoke with women in my family today. To say they are not happy about what Obama said is a HUGE understatement.

Women Unite!
America, Democrats, Independents, Republicans, let’s ALL stand up and fight for what is right!!

Obama wants the support fo women yet he kicks them to the curb with his actions and words! Pathetic!

I am so glad that America, expecially women, are standing up to Obama and giving him the collective finger!!

have to tell you that it feels great to NOT support or vote for the Obama Wing of the Democratic Party!

Let’s send that chauvinist asshat Obama back to Chicago where he belongs!

Yes. We. Can.

And.

Yes. We. Will.

McCain-Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12

Comment by Hispana | 2008-09-09 21:40:42

Oh yes, we had some fence sitters until he blurted this one out. He just got all but one of the females in the family riled up.

 
 

Comment by DD | 2008-09-09 21:32:22

What’s up with Obama’s reference to fish?

Me thinks he pissed off about this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs

:)

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-09 21:32:24

This is EXACTLY like the dusting off shoulders thing he did regarding Clinton. This guy is low rent it isn’t funny. His audience was laughing and yelling today just like they were the other time. His audience knew what he was saying.

I can’t stand this man.

 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-09 21:32:31

McCain/Palin playing the race card. I am glad someone has finally stood up against the wingnut smear against Senator Obama. It’s about time.

http://wcbstv.com/politics/paterson.mccain.palin.2.813646.html

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:39:04

Have you ever been critical when Obama via his surrogates has threatened a race war if he is not elected?

And your interpretation that “McCain/Palin playing the race card” is way off. I read the link. Your false claim of racism makes you the racist.

Comment by ritamary | 2008-09-10 00:47:59

This Obot Freedom Fighter sees racism in the most innocuous comments. Read previous posts from this person.

This is news to me that “community organizer” means black. Now the Obots are playing the race card again. The sexist attacks are not working as well with Sarah Palin as they did with Hillary, so crying racism is all they have left.

 
 

Comment by Deb | 2008-09-09 21:41:18

Go back to the KOOLAID Stand, we live in a small town area and we have community organizers too. It must be hard to see though; with our lipstick on!

 

Comment by Patti | 2008-09-09 21:46:13

Get real, the blind Govenor of NY likes to make dumb comments. I guess he forgot the only reason he is the Govenor is because Spitzer was doing his own version of “Govenors Gone Wild”

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 21:56:45

But the new governor didn’t want to miss out, so he laid out his own sorid affairs. What scum.

(and sorry for the pun).

I live in NY and this guy’s an embarrassment, just like Spitzer.

 
 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:11:33

You know we could put lipstick on freedom fighter but he would still be an ignorant tool drinking the obama koolaid and towing the Sexist’s Line.

FF (in some circles that means F*ckF*ce, but her it referes to you freedom fighter…just want to make sure we all understand the reference before i get accused of anything wink wink) I am so happy you and your miserable candidate are going to lose.

You both deserve it.

HA HA HA

 

Comment by WMCB | 2008-09-09 22:16:59

Got news for you sparky. This is not the primary anymore. That shit is not going to fly in the general, no matter how many media sycophants Obama gets to trot it our for him.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:27:51

Oh, the race card! We haven’t heard that in the past 30 seconds. When in doubt, pull it out! Yea, whenever I hear “community organizer” that is always my first thought: “Wow–how dare they make that blatantly racist statement!”

Pathetic. Keep reaching, your desperation is showing.

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-09 23:39:10

FF, are you being ironic with that little link? Community organizer = racist? Of course it’s racist, what isn’t racist?

Good morning? RACIST
Have a nice day? RACIST
Grande decaf latte? RACIST
Would you like fries with that? RACIST

We get it, EVERYBODY gets it. If America doesn’t elect BO it’s because America is a horrible, backward country filled with gun-toting bigots and hicks. We got it MONTHS ago.

 
 

Comment by calli not your sweeti | 2008-09-09 21:33:37

This was definitely a slam on Sarah Palin. A premeditated Obama finger and brush off the shoes move to the woman getting in his way of being the STAR! And the “old fish” comment was definitely a slam against McCain. You know, calling McCain old. Obama’s Harvard education is certainly impressive on the stump. This is what they teach them at Harvard?

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-10 02:58:18

This is what they teach them at Harvard?

Not really, he’s just showing all of us what he ‘didn’t’ get taught at home. His mom was so busy bouncing around the world with different men she forgot to teach little Obammunist how to give due respect to women and old people.

 
 

Comment by Deb | 2008-09-09 21:34:58

Thinking of sending him my half empty Long Lasting shade of Tiger Eye lipstick to see if he can cover up his PIG stytle campaign against women!

We know who the pig is here! Say goodbye to my registration to the DNC and hello (I). They keep it up and I’ll make it an (R)

Comment by Dave_Not_For_Obama | 2008-09-09 22:08:32

EXCELLENT IDEA, lol.

Send your used lipstick to the DNC or the Obambi campaign, hehe, would love to see what they would do with millions of used lipsticks, lol.

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 22:50:25

Or coupons for lipstick, they fit nicely in the prepaid envelopes.

Comment by Judy L. NC | 2008-09-10 08:44:57

OOH! I’m going to go through all my old magazines and cut out lipstick ads. . .

 
 
 
 

Comment by The Audacity of Hype | 2008-09-09 21:35:34

There he goes again!

 

Comment by yttik | 2008-09-09 21:36:40

I’m starting to find Democrats fricken repulsive. LOL, that sounds funny, but I’ve been insulted by them all day and I’ve had enough. I go to visit a blog I usually enjoy, and they’re actually discussing whether or not women should have the right to vote. Everywhere I look I run into faked out Palin porn, pictures of dogs with lipstick on, insults directed towards her children. I mean, this is simply insane. WTH is wrong with people?

Comment by The Robot | 2008-09-09 21:59:58

Those are Obama “Democrats”; exactly why we are working to purge the Party of Obama and his ilk.

 

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-09 22:53:31

I’m starting to find Democrats fricken repulsive. LOL, that sounds funny, but I’ve been insulted by them all day and I’ve had enough. I go to visit a blog I usually enjoy, and they’re actually discussing whether or not women should have the right to vote. Everywhere I look I run into faked out Palin porn, pictures of dogs with lipstick on, insults directed towards her children. I mean, this is simply insane. WTH is wrong with people?

The Obamabrats are the same demons that got George W. Bush into the White House eight years ago.

No kidding! These bastards act EXACTLY like the Bushbrats of 2000! The Bushbrats were in forums all over the internet back then acting JUST LIKE the Obamabrats are acting now. Which is why I believe that the scum who wrecked the Republican party’s reputation left the Republican party and hijacked the Democrat party.

 
 

Comment by john | 2008-09-09 21:37:16

What’s palin views on reforming social security? Tax cuts for the middle class? Raising taxes on the wealthy? Georgia & the Ukraine joining NATO? Paulson’s bailout? Her plans to reduce the deficit? Does she want a strong dollar? Weak dollar? Does she support continue aid to Israel? Is she for an independent Palestinian state? Does she support Hillary’s health care plan? Does she even have a health care plan? Can she stand up to Putin? Can she stand up to the oil companies? Does she support Mccain’s views on immigration? Or is her view closer to Pat Buchanan’s

I would like to know her views on these subjects before I even think of voting for her and McCain.

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:43:41

Obama waffles so much we will never be able to believe his proposals.

 

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-09 21:54:05

I bet she’d like to know Obama’s views on those things too! And he knows she’ll ask! And he won’t have Hillary to tell him. That’s why he’s trying to run out the clock with attacks, it’s all he’s got to distract from his emptiness.

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 22:03:48

Does it really matter?! Do you want a crude sexist president, Obama, or a respectable and credible president, McCain. Palin is simply the VP, regardless of her personal views, just like Biden, she’s agreed to support their respective presidential candidate’s positions. Anyway, there’s plenty around to suggest she’s quite normal and commonsense in her views. She’s not an extremist, nor does she have 20 years association with terrorists, hate-filled racists, or convicted felons.

Next.

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:13:06

She wears lipstick, and apparently accoring to Omessiah thats all YOU need to now.

How is the koolaid by the way?

 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:30:27

She will be interviewed by Charles Gibson 2 nights this week, and by others after that. The debate will also answer many of these questions. There’s two months to go.

 

Comment by McHope | 2008-09-09 22:30:56

What makes matters so much worse is seeing women defend him in the media as if they truly believe he is looking out for their interests. It’s laughable and pathetic.

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:21:42

Gee, maybe she should have run for President twice and lost like Joe Biden. In all seriousness, though, her record is very transparent as opposed to Obama. But you can hear her debate Joe Biden on policy soon. Right now, she is on the road, preparing for that debate and seeing her eldest son Track off to Iraq on September 11.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-10 00:08:42

Hey John,

Maybe if 0bama would stop acting like the kids on perezhilton.com and start campaigning on the issues for real, we could find that out. It’s his job to pin McCain/Palin down on the issues. Not ours.

Instead, 0bama’s playing the dozens.

Very presidential, indeed.

 
 

Comment by APark | 2008-09-09 21:38:38

His supporters seem quite pleased with this line of attack. I hope they’re ready for the blowback!!!!

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 22:04:56

On an earlier thread someone posted part of a chat from the Barack website blog. Incredible.

 

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:32:02

Did they not see the huge swing of women moving over to McCain in the polls this week? How stupid are they? Let’s insult them more! That will win them over.

 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-09 22:44:18

gosh, I hope they convince him to repeat this line at every campaign stop from now until November. It’s a real blockbuster!

Maybe make a few “retard” jokes too!

 
 

Comment by Monet | 2008-09-09 21:39:56

I find it interesting that Senator Obama places his hand across his face with he says: “You can put lipstick on a pig.” Any body language interpreters who want to interpret that hand move?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

Comment by mrbubbs | 2008-09-09 21:42:33

Your link shows Obama referring only to McCain. He never mentioned or referred to Palin.

 
 

Comment by gotalife | 2008-09-09 21:40:10

He stole that from his cousin cheney.

Fits the anti Hillary though.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-09 21:40:53

McCain must be smiling tonight. I would be if I were him. He doesn’t have to do anything. Obama is self-destructing.

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 22:00:48

Obama tonight on O’Reilly: “I expect to be held accountable for the things I said and do.”

Senator, resign.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 22:06:42

I second that.

 
 
 

Comment by pkat | 2008-09-09 21:41:14

The saying was made most famous by Ann Richards describing a bill the Republicans were trying to push through the Texas Senate.

“You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but a pig is still a pig”. (God rest her soul, I loved Ann).

Then MONET…..Donna Brazile and Karl Rove were very close during the campaign. Kinda of familiar the Karl Rove play book used to defeat Hillary??? He hates the Clintons!

He got inside the DNC and Brazile’s head, and now the Repubs can a good game…hence SARAH PALIN….

CHECK MATE!!

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:15:39

Karl Rove…The greatest political mind of modern times.

Sorry i have to tip my hat to the man.

He knows the game and how to play it better than anyone.

I guarantee this POS from Chicago wont get elected.

 
 

Comment by cdo | 2008-09-09 21:42:17

It doesn’t really matter what he meant, it is how people heard it. His audience sure thought he was talking about Palin. So will a lot of other people. He doesn’t have the luxury of being cavalier, his poll numbers are dropping. He is losing the un-lose-able election with classy moments like this.

 

Comment by Gatologico | 2008-09-09 21:42:57

In Spanish we call this an “indirecta”, when you indirectly ridicule someone through associative metaphors. He was making fun of Palin, no doubt, also using the term, “old fish” in the next breath. I have a felling Michelle put him up to this. She is the queen of passive agressive comments.

Comment by audacity | 2008-09-09 21:49:07

el gato

good one

 
 

Comment by Objective analysis | 2008-09-09 21:44:50

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Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-09 21:57:39

My Kosher aside and the pork/pig put down having ties to Barack’s Indonesian background gets pulled, the above comment remains?

 
 

Comment by Faye | 2008-09-09 21:49:24

Calli not your sweetie, I wonder if this B.O.’s attempt to be mid-americian. You know with all this barn yard talk? This is probably how the Harvards think small town people talk.

 

Comment by Obama's gums look sick | 2008-09-09 21:51:32

Obama hates transvestite policemen.

 

Comment by Objective analysis | 2008-09-09 21:52:42

This is CHANGE WE BELIEVE IN! NAS Style for 2008!

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-09 21:53:44

Thank you for writing the diary.

The Demagogic Party has gone to far.

This is so disgusting. This is coming from the Dem’s Presidential Candidate.

This should have just earned him the lowest possible numbers in a no lose election that his political career has just ended. That’s IF the Dem’s continue to keep him as their leader and nominee. Something tells me even some of them still have some character and don’t want to be associated with this.

But, by the talking points, sadly, The Dem’s may be to far gone to have integrity to speak up on this horrible conduct and talk.

 

Comment by DisenfranchisedVoter | 2008-09-09 21:53:55

That’s pretty disgusting and it doesn’t help Obama. When will Obama realize that personal attacks do not help him win? Attack on policy, ISSUES, Bush administration. But do NOT attack a woman by calling her a pig in lipstick. Crazy. Obama’s campaign is seriously going downhill.

 

Comment by SJ | 2008-09-09 21:55:15

If I was Hillary I know one thing after this pig line I was not getting on any platform to support this fool especially if I wanted a place in politics.

I keep saying this over and over if Hillary does not distance herself from this idiot he is going to end her career as a politician.

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 22:05:26

Or badly damage it. She will loose the respect of McCain/Palin and will not be able to forward her agenda in the Senate with the ease she would if she gets the hell out of the way of this character.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-09 22:10:24

Great point. I think I will email Senator Clinton NOW!

Comment by Andrew | 2008-09-10 00:09:18

Thanks for the kick, Linda. I just emailed Senator Clinton myself.

 
 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:27:28

I have been saying the same thing. Obama cannot help making these insulting comments and demeaning women. At the same time, he is borrowing Hillary’s stump speeches. The two will be married in the minds of voters unless she gets as far from him as possible.

 

Comment by karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now) | 2008-09-10 04:44:42

SJ, I just wrote this on another thread and am putting it here too. Hillary is not ob and she is not selling her soul to him. She is the victim and so are we.

She knows what she is doing and so should we.

here is the cut and paste of my 2 cents on why:

One thing to consider before you rail against Hill giving an endorsement to ob now is that Bill is the head of the Democratic party as most recent President.

Hillary has staunch supporters who worked their hearts out for her among the rank and file of that party.

Her foundation of belief is their platform, UHC etc.

She has no choice, she must carry water for their messiah even though it was obvious she long knew he could not win the general and wasn’t Pres material.

She must FIX the party from within and she cannot do that until they lose of their own accord and then turn to the party faithful centrists to fix it - as they ALWAYS do after such mistakes.

She is a Dem senator from NY. How do you think she could even win re-election to her seat if she had turned on Ob and the party before the General?

Do you think she (and Bill)should have had a fit of rage and left the party and bashed it and joined McPalin along with Lieberman? Look how that worked out for Joe!

Nope, her hands were tied and she has to do as told.

But when this election process is over - the Clinton’s will have the floor for 4 years to tell it all and run Hillary in ‘12. And you can bet when the republicans are done with BO there won’t be much left of him but small change.

Is it fair or good? No it isn’t. But Hillary has my unwavering support, then, now and always.

Nobama, Nohow, Noway.

Hillary 2012.

 
 

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-09-09 21:55:25

The only part of me that would be glad for an Obama Presidency is the satirist in me.

This is because bad politicians are the most fun to ridicule, and Obama is obviously one of the worst politicians who ever lived.

Of course, Obama can’t win, unless he’s got some industrial-strength election fraud up his sleeve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg

Comment by Obama's gums look sick | 2008-09-09 21:57:17

Where does Obama get his folksy southern accent?

Hawaii, Indonesia, Harvard, Chicago? This affectation is a mystery to me.

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:18:15

He got it In Selma Alabama…at the same time as he got his Cred with the civil rights movement…Prior to his birth when his parents met four years after he popped out of his mom.

 
 

Comment by A Citizen | 2008-09-10 02:33:44

Obama has never won an election without rigging it. Election fraud needs to be prevented!

 
 

Comment by Obama's gums look sick | 2008-09-09 21:55:51

Obama’s is “Change you can believe in”.

McCain is change you can actually see.

Comment by Standard | 2008-09-09 22:00:14

yeah. I’m looking forward to seeing nuclear power plants. B.O. wants them too, so we get to poison our earth for an eternity whichever party wins.

 
 

Comment by typical.white.person | 2008-09-09 21:59:08

Al Franken wins Senate nod amid 7 state primaries

ST. PAUL, Minn. – Comedian Al Franken grabbed the Democratic nomination Tuesday for U.S. Senate in Minnesota, setting up a showdown with Republican Sen. Norm Coleman.

 

Comment by jjran | 2008-09-09 21:59:12

Post the video please………..

 

Comment by Obama's gums look sick | 2008-09-09 21:59:17

Obama’s hand motion explained:

He had the pig joke written on his wrist and because he is such a nice person he had to read it because it was something he never would have said on his own.

Yeah.

 

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 21:59:55

Let me get this straight. Oblatherer refuses to debate McCain in townhall style format because Waffles sucks at debating being the empty suit that he is. Now he can’t even do a campaign event without inserting his foot in mouth. Great choice Howie and Donna!

Oblatherer better call in sick to the 3 presidential debates coming up.

 

Comment by Linda | 2008-09-09 22:01:43

Let’s see, was it only two weeks ago that the DNC twisted every arm it could to nominate this man? LOL. If he had a hard time raising money before, the coffers are going to go bare now. One blunder after another. It is like watching a train wreck. But, we told the DNC, and they still stole the nomination for him.

There is an old song that goes something like…

“who’s sorry now, who’s sorry now….”

Well Dems it is over for you.

Signed, a ex-Dem for 30 years

 

Comment by JM08 | 2008-09-09 22:01:48

Hillary presidential hopes may be dead. How can she run as the champion of women, when she is no campaigning for the ultimate anti woman candidate ?

The kooks on kos are so outraged over the new McCain ad. Funny coming from people who put a “used retarted baby on ebay”

If they think this is bad just wait till the 527’s attach, who have no accountability to anyone.

 

Comment by KC | 2008-09-09 22:01:56

Just how much more sexist can the Obama campaign get?! Just when you think they have hit bottom, they find a way to dig deeper. How can any woman vote for Obama? Where does this hatred for women come from?

Comment by Uninformed Bowel Movement | 2008-09-09 22:05:57

Where does this hatred for women come from?

He needs a fucking shrink and should stop wasting our time and energy.

 
 

Comment by JM08 | 2008-09-09 22:03:44

Read up on what Rev. Maning says. Read up on Donald Young and Larry Sinclair. Obama is a closet homosexual.

 

Comment by DD | 2008-09-09 22:07:23

We already remember the punjab remark, why would anyone think that Obama is not capable of another gaffe?

What a retard!

 

Comment by Faye | 2008-09-09 22:08:07

KC, This hatred could come from many of his life’s experiences. But my guess is that B.O. blamed his mom for his dad abandoning them when he was only two. Also notice how easily B.O. throw his grandmother under bus at the first chance.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-09 22:15:38

This hatred could come from many of his life’s experiences.

Or why he would pick a wife who fits into his belief system of what women are like? The guy seems to have issues.

 
 

Comment by mel | 2008-09-09 22:09:14

 

Comment by usaproud | 2008-09-09 22:09:32

If anyone can defend Obama after this they are as ignorant as he is…Obama HATES women and if he were to get elected…WOMEN OF AMERICA WATCH OUT

 

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 22:11:00

“I expect to be held responsible for the things that I say and do.”

Senator, resign.

 

Comment by William L. Donlon | 2008-09-09 22:11:30

OBAMA HAS DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES WITH WOMEN:

“Your nice enough Hillary”.

Putting the “Middle Finger” to his cheek when talking about Hillary.

Refuses to even vet an 18,000,000 vote getter because she is a Woman.

Wrote books about a father who was only in his life for 25 months, but none about his Mother Or Grandmother.

Never went to his mother’s death bed.

We see 96 year old Roberta McCain but not Obama’s grandmother.

Called his White Grandmother, who raised him, a “Racist”, to save his Male preacher.

“Lipstick on a pig, is still a pig”, CLEAR REFERENCE TO SARAH.

Obama has DEEP psychological issues with women.

Comment by KC | 2008-09-09 22:22:00

Don’t forget “Sweetie”

 

Comment by Andrew | 2008-09-10 00:12:09

Also, don’t forget drawing a parallel between Geraldine Ferraro and Louis Farrakhan. Sliming her as a racist was despicable.

 

Comment by Wisewoman | 2008-09-10 00:32:56

Don’t forget his feigned, clever comments to a crowd of young people during the primaries. To cheers, at a rally in Atlanta, Obama referenced the rapper Lil Wayne as follows: “maybe you are the next Lil Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school”. Now he could have used any rapper but he chose Lil Wayne. Why? May be the following lyrics explains why and why the young rap loving crowd understood and laughed and cheered so wildly:

“I get on top
She drop it like its hot
And when I’m at the bottom
She be Hillary Rodham”

HE’S AN A**HOLE AND NOT FIT TO BE POTUS.

 
 

Comment by Kato | 2008-09-09 22:11:42

I haven’t read through all the comments, and I think that this thought has already been placed here…but Hillary would never stand for anyone talking this way. Pigs and old fish.

I want to request that we all demand that Hillary immediately quit campaigning for this neanderthal. Surely she can’t support this crap. If she continues to stump for this idiotic man, I could no longer support her in the future than I could David Duke.

Hillary needs to immediately separate herself from this seriously stupid person.

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 22:25:55

I think so. No if or buts about it.

 
 

Comment by NoBAma | 2008-09-09 22:11:53

Obama looked so weak on O’Reilly. Not presidential. He was on defense the whole night. Hillary was strong, she smiled and laughed and supported her views> But of course Hillary did not hang around terrorists, crazy preachers and the like that she had to defend.

 

Comment by DPinFlorida | 2008-09-09 22:12:35

Obama is making me so mad!!!

Why won’t he stop talking down to
women???????

This is going too far and the media just keeps excusing him. They never scrutinize and send hundreds of reporters to Chicago to interview his “associates” but they sure love going to Alaska for a VP candidate!!

Stop focusing on Palin damnit!

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 00:39:41

Maybe because he’s taller?

I think Obama’s obvious devotion to his wife and two daughters suggest he’s got the right attitude about women. Obama has been around strong women all of his life. Moreso than the majority of men his age.

Obama is forced to be attentive to Palin because Palin is what has empowered McCain’s 2008 campaign. A public image of Palin is being carefully fabricated in the media before our very eyes.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 04:57:35

Yes, Obama is being forced to act like a total ass. She made him do it so, oh yeah, I guess it’s all Sarah’s fault!

No wonder he hates women.

 
 
 

Comment by mel | 2008-09-09 22:18:48

 

Comment by yarrrrr | 2008-09-09 22:19:36

“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

Does anyone actually believe this wasn’t planned in advanced? It’s offensive and the point is to generate deniable outrage to hijack the narrative and put his own spin on the last news cycle. The media are carrying his water big time.

Comment by DanL | 2008-09-09 22:32:19

Hmmm..MAYBE this fish remark is an attempt to also knock down the fact she and her family are Commercial Fisherman? Just a thought..

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-09 23:13:03

Hmmm..MAYBE this fish remark is an attempt to also knock down the fact she and her family are Commercial Fisherman?

Hmmm…and MAYBE you are a FAAAAAAR reaching, sexist Obama-supporting asshole?

Just a thought..

Yep.

A STUPID thought.

Which is, of course, quite common coming from the Obama compound.

 

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 23:34:13

Not much of one. ;-)

 
 
 

Comment by Faye | 2008-09-09 22:21:27

William L Donlon,
Is this true about B.O. not going to see his mother when she was dying? That is just plain cold hearted if he doesn’t have an excellent reason, like my wife was dying.
As far as B.O.’s grandmother, she is in ill health and may not be able to travel considering the distance.

Comment by William L. Donlon | 2008-09-09 22:53:17

Faye:

Obama did not once, go to his mother’s death bed.

After her death, Obama and his Half Sister did sprinkle her ashes on the shores of Hawaii.

Obama has always had issues with Women.

 
 

Comment by 935 Lies | 2008-09-09 22:21:34

You can award the [DELETED] a J.D., but he’s STILL a [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR].

Nope. Not offensive enough yet…but getting there.

[ADMINISTRATOR: THIS IS EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE AND RACIST. YOU ARE BANNED.]

Comment by fif | 2008-09-09 22:39:30

Larry or Matthew, that comment should be deleted. It’s borderline.

 
 

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-09 22:21:37

Now that we have talked to Palin’s pastor at the church where she is an attendee… but is not even a member. How about we get to see Michelle’s thesis on race? Sounds more relevant actually considering the liberation theology church that the Obama’s were associated with for 20 years.

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 22:25:09

Dear Senator Obama,

On behalf of all those who have at one time or another worn lipstick, including Mayor Guiliani, I would like to extend to you this sincere bit of support in these troubling times.

FUCK YOU!!

 

Comment by stewie | 2008-09-09 22:25:22

Pity the poor Barry, a simple twist of fate, another Woman running against him, yet the same attacks based on gender…I will be surprised if he even shows up for the debates…I have seen this act, in Hi Def and Blueray for months, lets hope the public puts an end to this sham of an election.

 

Comment by LoganHRC | 2008-09-09 22:27:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_ipqk6dj4

Take a look at this New Video on Obama, Hillary and palin….You will LOVE IT

Comment by KC | 2008-09-09 22:46:57

 

Comment by SlowBurn | 2008-09-09 23:01:13

awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mccain/palin YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

Comment by Eastan McNeal | 2008-09-09 22:29:31

Can we do a tag team?

When Obama shows up for the first debate, McCain slaps Palin’s hand and she goes in for the (the Secret Service will not let me use the next word of this sentence)

And the crowd goes wild!

 

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Comment by JimDawg | 2008-09-09 22:31:16

I believe Biden is writing these lines for Yobama.

Such an un-winding of a campaign could not have been better scripted.

I am just thankful there are less than 8 weeks left until this snafu is over.

 

Comment by Typical Bitter Whitey Woman | 2008-09-09 22:31:19

No Quarter — where are your WOMEN writers? Seems like Matthew is working OT.

 

Comment by mel | 2008-09-09 22:34:12

For thjose who haven’t seen Bambi speak of pigs and fish, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEBP3Z946jY

 

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Comment by The Robot | 2008-09-09 22:36:59

This was no accident - Obama knows the power of words.

No accident at all - NO WAY.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-09 22:48:58

This from a Harvard educated lawyer no less. Maybe you don’t always get what you pay for.

If you watch the video… he knows because he pauses… starts to speak then pauses… he knows better… he knows… you can see it. But he just can’t help himself. He has to say it.

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 22:57:35

The more I watch the video the more noticeable are the many things in the speech that point to specifically referencing the ticket, McCain/Palin. It is clear the reference is Palin the pig (singular), wrapped in chage for eight years. That is McCain. The old fish is McCain. It so despicable low.

I agree with you. These remarks were prepared in advance and delivered with perfect tone. He is a master at these kinds of smears. Unreal.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-10 00:08:01

FISH = VAGINA. It’s a double entendre. Doubly offensive. Urban terminology.

 
 

Comment by Tucson | 2008-09-09 23:14:21

…and remember when he flipped his finger to Hillary? Please someone tell me what is wrong with this guy? I am speechless.

 
 
 

Comment by IronMan | 2008-09-09 22:43:09

Check this out…

Obama’s $100,000 Gazebo

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/07/barack-obamas-1-1-million-botanical-garden-er-100-000-gazebo

Just one of the many projects of almost ONE BILLION DOLLARS that Ozero has requested in earmarks.

Bar-oink Obama’s big appetite for requesting and handing out porkbarrel project dollars to his pals is pathetic!

 

Comment by Dave_Not_For_Obama | 2008-09-09 22:46:24

Comment by JM08 | 2008-09-09 22:03:44
Read up on what Rev. Maning says. Read up on Donald Young and Larry Sinclair. Obama is a closet homosexual.

The more I hear Obambi , the more I’m almost convinced you may be correct.ie. pig/stinky fish

I have some gay male friends and sometimes I rib them about trying a woman for a change of pace and their return comment does make reference to not wanting near “stinky fish” as Obambi termed it.

Could Obambi be a closet homosexual or perhaps bisexual, all roads are starting to lean that way from my pint of view.

DISCLAIMER: I have nothing against gay/lesbian/bisexual people, I do have lots against Obambi though, lol.

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 23:52:08

What I don’t understand is that the smell of shit and spunk don’t seem to bother them.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 05:19:18

oh-my-gawd (wiping coffee off computer screen and walls)

Thanks, I haven’t laughed like that since before the Iowa primary.

 
 
 

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 22:48:06

Obama is a piece of shit. But he’s only digging himself a deeper grave. It’s over for Barry Soetoro. If you listen to that clip you’ll understand he’s just a clumsy a speaker as ever. What’s worse: today he lacks any sense of self confidence. He’s been shaken and stirred both and he’s not going to recover.

But as things get more desperate the people of the US will see more and more clearly the true colors of Obama.

 

Comment by Helen S | 2008-09-09 22:50:20

It does my heart GOOD to see Obama get his “hat brought to him”, now I would love see him eat it.

 

Comment by gracie | 2008-09-09 22:50:22

I think BO was referiing to Mrs. Palin on both counts: a pig with lipstick and one married to a stinking fish, her commercial fisherman fish picking husband Todd.

Comment by BlueTopaz | 2008-09-09 23:56:04

No, the misogynist’s fish comment was about her.

 
 

Comment by Dave_Not_For_Obama | 2008-09-09 22:53:31

Found this on another blog, I just had to share it, too funny.
————–

# Randy Rager — September 9, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

Oh man. This clown is DONE. Finito. Forked. Well and truly finished.

Senator Maverick could come out tomorrow and simply say “We don’t debate losers, there won’t be any debates, we’re not wasting our time” while snorting blow off the naked buttocks of a cheap Thai hooker live on natiional T.V. and STILL win.

ODumbass might carry D.C. But he won’t carry any, actual, you know, STATES.

————-

 

Comment by Danny | 2008-09-09 23:01:09

oh my god what a whacko! Obama needs to grow up and go back to the Senate where all the crying is acceptable.

 

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-09 23:05:12

These remarks do not surprise me one bit. BO should know from personal experience.

MichelleO already mentioned that he has stinky feet so he must wrap them in fish. And if OZero wants to look at a pig wearing lipstick, all he has to do is look into a mirror.

Comment by Andrew | 2008-09-10 00:16:31

Or look at his wife.

 
 

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-09 23:09:13

Right. Shame on Obama for using one of the most common metaphors in the English language.

Anyone with half a brain knows what pig the McCain/Palin campaign is trying to dress up with lipstick and pass off as pretty: their damn policies. That’s the 8-year old stinking fish they’ve wrapped in a paper they call change.

The republicans should be ashamed for doing their best to divert attention away from important issues at a critical moment in American history.

They should be deeply ashamed for politically exploiting 9/11 at their convention, tapping the memories and emotions related to a sorrowful national tragedy for their own partisan ends. For me, that was a new low in common decency.

I suppose a willingness to engage in that sort of cynical behavior is just one more thing they’ve inherited from the administration of George W. Bush.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-09 23:20:52

Are you intentionally oblivious to Obama’s crude and rude behavior? You can try and explain it away and distract but the comment is simply the latest of a pattern. Maybe it is behavior you share, thus can see how inappropriate it is?

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-09 23:41:46

I am generally unaware of such behavior, and believe that most of it is entirely a matter of distorted perceptions on the part of people who have an irrational dislike for Barack Obama that extends beyond simple disagreement with his political positions.

I also believe that trying to create the perception of such things and incite anger about them is a tactic that’s being deliberately used to distract from policy and issues.

It wouldn’t serve the Obama campaign to use that tactic as much as it’s alleged they do, because issues and the specifics of policy are their greatest area of strength. They don’t want that distraction.

I’m attentive to the candidates I support and attentive to the opposition. I generally hear about the supposed disrespect when it’s alleged on the right. Their main attack takes the form of accusations of attack.

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 23:43:20

I am sure you were one of the first out there decrying the use of the race card against the clintons weren’t you Obot?

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-09 23:55:16

I thought that was totally blown out of proportion as well.

I really don’t much give a damn about anything but policy and issues. The rest is just static that gets in the way of clear thought.

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-10 00:25:48

Then why isn’t your candidate directly talking about the issues?

Leave the one-liners to Jay Leno.

You can’t shine shit, Dr. Zarkov. And 0bama is shit!

What a waste of an ivy league education!

 
 
 

Comment by Percy11 | 2008-09-09 23:51:20

You are a Pig Dr Z.

It is ok that I say that right? Don’t misunderstand it.

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-09 23:59:38

Like I said: It’s just static.

You should try to focus on what’s important. Otherwise you might as well be cheering your favorite and jeering the other guy at a Pro-Wrestling event.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 05:31:48

Oh, so now you get it huh?

Well too late, you’re stuck with Nacho Bama. You should have supported a real candidate if you wanted to talk issues.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-09-09 23:23:43

Oh Pu-leeze! If Barky was unaware of Palin’s Lipstick/hockeymom/pitbull joke then he is too fucking stupid to breathe. He may not make the link, but the very people he needs to win (woman) might make that connection. THAT my dear, is politically moronic and I don’t want someone that stupid trying to go toe to toe with the likes of former KGB agent turned national hero/president/prime minister, Putin.

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 23:42:02

Sorry fresh out of Rose Water….that WORM bullshit you are peddling will just have to smell like the shit it is.

Incase they havent taught you what WORM stands for at camp koolaid:

W H A T

O I N K B A M A

R E A L L Y

M E A N T

 

Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-09-09 23:45:50

One of the “most common metaphors in the English language!” Ann Richards, who passed away less than a decade ago, would be pleased to know she’s up there with William Shakespeare.

 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-10 00:12:58

You mean you don’t believe that BO is aware of Palin’s hockey mom/pitbull/LIPSTICK joke? I didn’t even watch her speech last week and I’m aware of it. Come on, don’t pretend to be so naive.

He chose that common metaphor BECAUSE it would tie into her joke about herself, thereby labeling HER (not her policies or positions) but HER as a pig.

 
 

Comment by Mary | 2008-09-09 23:10:03

Hey - I am one of those women readers and bloggers and a PUMA - The pig comment is Obama’s Macaca moment. This man is scum, I knew it from the moment he told Hillary she was likeable enough. He lost any consideration of my vote then, and all he has done since then is convince me my female intuition was right on - this man is no man at all, just a poor excuse wearing trousers.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-09 23:22:52

Yes, I think this remark will be remembered as the beginning of the end of this campaign. From here out expect a “Jerry Springer” show from his campaign as I am sure they know it’s all they have left at this point. It’s going to be a “spaghetti toss” anything and everything is coming out… in the hopes that something may stick. The larger problem… at this point all McCain has to do is “look Presidential” because Obama has lost any semblance of that.

 
 

Comment by sproutingly | 2008-09-09 23:14:10

I read that their campaign just decided to go massively negative. I guess we’ll be seeing more of the same.

Comment by Lark | 2008-09-09 23:24:11

Barack and many of his staff can go massively negative but I would like to see Biden do that. He will provide unforgettable moments.

 

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 00:12:12

Hey, remember the Paris Hilton/Britney Spears ad? The He didn’t visit the hospital in Germany and doesn’t care about the troops ad? The Ayres ad? The Rezko ad?

The McCain campaign has gone increasingly negative right from the get-go, while Obama was trying to discuss policy and issues.

FOX has been in full attack mode since the beginning.

So now you’re gonna cry foul if the Obama campaign starts firing back?

You’ve always said that Obama is a Chicago-style politician. If you’re right, you’re not going to know what hit you.

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-10 00:24:17

Is Obama a very big celebrity? check
Did Obama skip a visit with injured soldiers, but did make it to the gym? check
Was Obama the chairman of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge an education group basically founded by ‘that guy who lives in my neighborhood’ and unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayres? check
Was Tony Rezko MUCH MORE than some client he once did 5 hours worth of work for? check

Calling your opponent’s VP candidate a pig (and slice it anyway you want that’s what he did) is not Chicago-style politics…it’s f**king STUPID politics. At least Chicago politicians have some brains - this guy’s an idiot.

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 01:11:14

If you believe all that, John has apparently found his target audience.

You probably believe it’s pure coincidence that Sarah Palin will hold her first interview on 9/11, the same day her son is coincidentally scheduled to go off to Iraq. You probably see nothing cynically calculating about that.

You’re being played like a fish on a line, and you don’t even know it.

Comment by noproblama | 2008-09-10 05:39:25

We, my dear “Dr.” know exactly what’s going on.

Poetic justice.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Zelda Crunch | 2008-09-09 23:26:27

I can’t believe this thread. It reminds me of those scenes in Top Gun where they yell out ‘I’ve got tone’. It’s as if all of a sudden there’s this enormous Achilles heel gap in Obama’s campaign and everyone but everyone has found it at the same time. This guy Obama is going down for the count. He’s got a glass jaw. Crash boom bang 7 8 9 10 yer out, Obama!

 

Comment by venomous | 2008-09-09 23:28:49

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Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-09 23:40:47

Actually nice pickup… I have read where Muslims believe the pig represents “sin and sickness”… so it is an interesting side note.

 
 

Comment by PewL | 2008-09-09 23:29:04

I think Obama has a Problem,imo,when he wanting to grab Bill Oreilly…He does it so often,its starting to bother me….I think Bill had his attention,so whats with the grabbing?

 

Comment by Butler | 2008-09-09 23:33:41

Palin should call The One’s bluff and challenge him to a debate.

 

Comment by navyvet48 | 2008-09-09 23:36:03

UGH! I told someone tonight that this comment while unfortunate was seen to mean exactly what people thought it meant! The crowd laughed uproariously thinking Obamabi was talking about Palin. He did that so mucg during the primaries it made me sick….now it makes me sicker because he is at it all over again!

 

Comment by PewL | 2008-09-09 23:38:17

Sean Hannity said Obama campaign has sent 30 lawyers and 30 Investigators to Alaska,to try and dig up dirt on Sarah…Pathetic,just pathetic..I’ve never seen such disgrace in a Democratic Party,in all the years,I’ve watched the USA elections.

Obama is supposed to be attacking McCain, not Palin..

I can’t wait for the debates..I hope Sarah Shows she has also has a Bite,to go with the lipstick..lol

 

Comment by mar | 2008-09-09 23:38:40

This place defines hypocrisy. Smearing and slandering Barack Obama non-stop for absolutely every little thing while letting the lying criminal republicans and the phony and dangerous John McCain get off scott-free no matter what they/he does or says.

Remember, you people are a notorious joke and I’m definately laughting at you and not with you.

Watch the video. It’s all you need to know about a big-time lying sleazebag completely uncomfortable in front of a real crowd or even in his own sleazy skin. Let’s look at HIS sordid and disgusting history with women.

Funny how THAT has yet to be addressed on this back-asswards website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK-LEyyf7d4

Comment by Fred | 2008-09-09 23:43:21

I agree mar, Obama is a loser!

HAHAHAAHAHAHA

Comment by mar | 2008-09-09 23:53:49

ok everybody slow down a little for Freddy here…

Caught up Freddy? Figure out how to push the buttons? Hope none of the words were too big for you.

Now, did you see the funny little bald white man named John McCain, with his silly trophy wife named Cindy, acting like a complete and utter doofus? Insulting his Smily Stepford Sin-dy-wife in front of the whole world? Doing a bangup impression of George Dumbya Bush?

Good boy. Now siddown and shuddup.

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 23:55:55

Daily Kos That way —>

They need more helping finding that pregnancy suit.

Hurry!

They are giving away free cheetohs to the first 1000 leftwing basement dwelling a-holes that show up!

 

Comment by Fred | 2008-09-09 23:57:11

Hey har, getting all woried yet?

Obama on self destruct, you trolling blogs to drown your sorrows? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I love it mar, don’t you? Obama is a loser, we both agree on that!!!

HAHAHAHAAH

 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-09-10 00:06:40

I only see you acting like a doofus.

I agree with McCain, there is nothing that compares to the sound of a Harley, and 50,000 would be awesome.

So he thinks enough of his wife that she could be in a beauty contest. Very few women would take that as an insult. But since you’ve never beenwith a woman, you don’t get that.

The list of “events” said “Beauty Contest”. That’s what made it a joke.

Just like when KOS kiddies like you post here. You are the joke, and we all get to laugh. At you, not with you.

 
 
 

Comment by usaproud | 2008-09-09 23:44:40

I hear the desperation in the Obama camp….WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA…The cry babies are out in full force

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 23:48:01

Suck My Barack!

Take your Hypocrisy back to Daily Kos and don’t come back till you find that pregnancy suit.

You have the audacity to talk of smears?

You stupid tool.

 

Comment by Chelsea Patriot | 2008-09-10 09:39:29

“A big time lying sleazebag, Stanley Anne, that’s what you are!” shouted Madelyn. Holding her nose, she screamed, “And speaking of bags…For the love of God, Girl,…Douche!”
“Fuck you, Mommy! It’s Friday Night Fish Fry,” snarled the hate-filled, foul smelling, Teen-Commie.”And you know I hate God! Barrack can’t get enough of my fish tacos. They don’t have Tuna in Kenya, Mommy!..Where’s my goddamn lipstick case, Old Lady?’
“PIG!” shreiked Madelyn.

 
 

Comment by Fred | 2008-09-09 23:40:34

Guess what’s on the front page of the NY post…

Lipstick on a Pig

the article

Looks like this will take up another day or two of Obama’s news cycle, doesn’t it? What a “boneheaded” mistake he’s probably thinking…!

hahahahaaaa

 

Comment by Johnny at Work | 2008-09-09 23:43:43

The lipstick and fish smell insults were directed at the only female in the race.

Putting lipstick on McCain does not make sense. Comparing McCain to a fish makes less sense. There is no previous history for McCain that could set up a joke about lipstick or fish smell.

Obama likes to make insults that would seem subtle only to a 12 year old. His minions get the slight, and cheer him for it.

He loves the face scratch middle finger salute.

But, because it is something only a 12 year old would try to get away with in earnest, his MSM supporters always defend him with WORMs. “No that’s not what he meant.” “He could not have possibly meant that”

Barry is too juvenile to have an adult sense of humor. The MSM poo pooed his adolescent put downs of Hillary “She gets a little down and the claws come out”, but the GOP is not going to let him get away with it.

Judging from the polls, the General Election voters are not going to tolerate it either.

 

Comment by Ms. Misdemeanor | 2008-09-09 23:48:26

Must have bussed the kool-aid kids in from Charlottesville,Blacksburg, and Radford for the Lebanon event.

Doubt that real people in Lebanon would cotton to those remarks much. They like their guns too.

 

Comment by Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright | 2008-09-09 23:50:21

Any Obot troll who even makes an attempt at defending this has no sense of decency, but they most of those obot trolls are laughing at the trig site and searching ebay for pregnancy suits…so meh.

Obot Trolls,

OWN YOUR SHITTY CANDIDATE!

 

Comment by Pink Panther | 2008-09-09 23:50:45

Obama obviously has a problem with women. Obama definitely views women as subordinate. Unfortunately, now the Democratic Party has followed his wishes.

Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism, and the Glass Ceiling for Women

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-10 00:05:29

Maybe everything he needs to know about women… he learned in madrasa kindergarten. Maybe he could write a third book about it.

 
 

Comment by Ben David | 2008-09-09 23:55:22

In reference to this post, Charles Barkley said back in 2007, ” In this election we are going to find out just who the racist and sexist are.”

Funny thing it is located within obama and his campaign and the dnc for allowing this.

Comment by BettsAZ | 2008-09-10 01:42:35

Never in my life have I ever seen one politician do so much damage and create such a divide amongst the American people!

Uniter????…heh!

 
 

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Comment by yoman | 2008-09-09 23:58:12

Obama calls Palin a ‘pig’ — New low for sexism-plagued Illinois senator as he appropriates Palin’s ‘lipstick’ remark to attack her with repulsive comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X03m-vXm_Y

 

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-10 00:04:56

I have a theory, and it’s got me a little worried. What do you guys think?

Karl Rove and GW Bush did everything they could to personally destroy McCain in 2000. Perhaps the worst lie they spread was that McCain was crazy angry. Remember the “questions of whether he had presidential temperament” etc? And Rove cozied up to scumbag Ted Sampley who spreads crap that McCain was in a luxury hotel being a traitor instead of the Hanoi Hilton.

Rove cozied up with Sampley again in the election of 2004 against Kerry, and McCain came out against it….which pissed off lots of GOP folks.

I wonder if the Obama campaign’s tactics of saying disgusting things about Palin (and today saying that McCain has no honor) are just trying to set him up to have an angry outburst….thus defeating McCain with Rove’s smear from 8 years ago.

I posted this on the kool aide thread….there simply isn’t a rational explanation for the idiocy and sickening smears coming out of the Obama campaign. All I can hope is that the folks around McCain are just sitting back and laughing at how disgusting Team Obama’s behavior is, and not getting angry.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-10 00:09:19

set him up to have an angry outburst

I thought that about the “code pink” thing. I think McCain has found his “zen” and is where he knows he needs to be and is in full control.

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 00:22:58

Either his Zen, or his proper medication… Gotta hand it to him: That Code Pink whacko rolled off his back like ducks off a raindrop.

Damn. I actually like John McCain. I just can’t abide his policy.

 
 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-10 00:11:04

I am wondering if anyone in the mainstream media is going to have the balls to point out that “fish” is a slang term for vagina, or more specifically, the odor of a vagina. I am sure Obama knew that when he said it.

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-10 00:36:31

The fish remark was the more offensive to me.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-09-10 01:13:02

Same here. I am still absolutely FLABBERGASTED by it.

 
 
 

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 00:19:21

By the way… Why is Sarah Palin being kept away from the press? Why haven’t we heard anything but slight variations on the same speech, carefully crafted background pieces, and canned interviews yet? When is she going to sit down in front of a camera and answer some hard questions so we can find out how experienced, knowledgeable, and capable she really is?

After all, if elected, she’ll really and truly be only a heartbeat away from the presidency…

Comment by fluffy bunny | 2008-09-10 00:32:05

Why has Obama ducked the press? Jim Lindgren, the resident democrat over at the Volokh Conspiracy put up a long post today with media reports over the last 6 months showing that Obama avoids the press.

A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE: From February through July.

POLITICO, 2/3:

“We’re not on the plane, in my view, to have private talks with presidential candidates,” Zeleny added. “We’re here to report what they are saying and give our readers a better idea of their campaigns and their candidacies.”

“There has never been a press corps in the history of our nation that got as many interviews as they wanted,” Jen Psaki, the Obama campaign’s traveling press secretary, responded in an e-mail.

. . . Whereas a candidate like Sen. John McCain of Arizona relishes lengthy on-the-record bull sessions with the media, Obama generally does not. So it’s no surprise that reporters will rush to get a quote when he does so.

Of course, journalists griping about not getting enough access is nothing new — but as Obama and Clinton fraternize a bit more with the traveling media, and the rules aren’t clear, it presents a problem.

UPI, 2/26:

Reporters are finding it tougher to gain access to Barack Obama as the Illinois senator’s campaign closes in on the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination.

Complaints from the press plane include blackouts on Obama’s satellite television interviews and requirements for escorts at large campaign rallies, the Web site The Politico said Tuesday.

The Politico said Hillary Clinton and John McCain remain more open to the press pack and also noted the growing lack of access comes at a time when Obama is seeing increased criticism over a perceived lack of specifics on his platform.

Wall Street Journal, 3/3:

This year, Hillary Clinton made a clumsy attack on Mr. Rezko as a “slum landlord” during one debate. But her campaign has otherwise steered clear — at least until last Friday, when Howard Wolfson, a top Clinton aide, suggested to reporters on a conference call that “the number of questions that we don’t know the answers to about the relationship between Mr. Rezko and Mr. Obama is staggering.” Mr. Obama’s campaign told me they have answered all questions about Mr. Rezko and have no plans to release any further records. . . .

Mr. Obama will eventually have to talk about Illinois, if only to clear the air. After John McCain last month was attacked for cozy ties to lobbyists, he held a news conference and answered every question. Hillary Clinton held a White House news conference on Whitewater and her cattle futures. Mr. Obama must do the same for questions about Mr. Rezko and “the Chicago way” of politics. If he doesn’t, they may increasingly haunt his candidacy.

Telegraph, 4/22:

Accusations of a passionate love affair between Barack Obama and the press have been a feature of the 2008 campaign. Well, if that’s the case there’s maybe a need for a bit of counselling at the moment if the relationship is to be stopped from heading towards splitsville. On Obama One, there’s a sense of growing mutiny. There’s been no press availability for 11 days and only two in April. And today there was “Wafflegate” yep, the incident achieved gatedom status within hours.

Is Barack Obama too busy eating waffles to talk to the press?

In an exchange in a Scranton diner that may well lead to Obama being dogged by hapless young Republican volunteers dressed in foam waffle costumes come the general election, Aswini Anburajan of NBC asked the presidential hopeful what he thought of Jimmy Carter meeting Hamas. Visibly annoyed, Obama responded: “Why can’t I just eat my waffle? I’m just eating my waffle here.” Realising he was being videoed, he then winked at Anburajan and tried to make a joke of the moment. But it was too late.

A few hours later, Obama was unrepentant, again rebuffing a reporter’s question. . . .

When we asked him (David Axelrod) why Obama wasn’t talking to us, he responded: “I’m sure that he’ll be spending time with you some time soon. He’s done a series of interviews today on national television, on local television with local press so he’s done a lot of media.”

But Obama’s unwillingness to hold a press conference is clearly part of a strategy of message control. Short television, radio or local newspaper interviews are very unlikely to put him at the mercy of the kind of persistent line of questioning he was subjected to during last Wednesday’s Philadelphia debate which clearly annoyed him.

In the short term, it might be a clever tactic he hasn’t been tripped up in the closing days of the Pennsylvania primary campaign. But in the longer term it could be a problem against John McCain, who grants almost unfettered media access.

Reporters get antsy when they’re not talked to particularly if their organisations are stumping up thousands of dollars a day to travel with the candidate. Normally, Obama wouldn’t get questions thrown at him in diners, on the tarmac or when he’s micing up for a tv show.

But if he’s not doing press conferences or avails on the plane then we have no other option but to buttonhole him whenever we can. . . .

When he does engage with the press, Obama can be charm itself and is more than up to the task of handling a bit of back and forth. But as the waffle video shows, avoiding questions feeds the notion of a certain type of arrogance and a feeling that the candidate thinks he doesn’t have to hold himself up to proper scrutiny.

Politico, 6/19:

News organizations complain about access to Obama

The Times mentioned today a letter from Washington bureau chiefs of six leading news organizations to the Obama campaign, complaining about access and about being deceived by campaign aides.

I’ve obtained a copy of the letter, whose signatories include AP’s Ron Fournier and the late Tim Russert of NBC. It was sent June 6, after Obama flew his press corps to Chicago and stayed behind to meet Clinton. The news organizations threaten in the letter to withhold payment for the flight.

More broadly, the organizations complain that Obama offers less access to the press even than President Bush, keeping even a single pool reporter out of his security bubble. He also answers relatively few questions, and his agreement to admit reporters to fundraisers remains partial: Last night, the pool reporter, the Washington Post’s Anne Kornblut, reported that she was confined to a Kennedy poolhouse while Obama talked to donors.

Guardian, 6/19:

The US media is airing frustration over its access to Barack Obama’s campaign, complaining that the Democratic nominee sets a lower standard for press relations than George Bush.

The Obama camp is known for its disciplined message and well-oiled operation. Such control appears to be creating tension with major US television networks and newspapers, which pay high prices to travel with the candidate and expect access to Obama in return.

Reporters have been shut out of two Obama events in the past week, according to the New York Times.

Newsbusters, 7/21:

Andrea Mitchell might be a doyenne of the liberal media, but she has her reporter’s pride and principles, which have been trampled by the way the Obama campaign has managed the media during the candidate’s current trip to Afghanistan and Iraq. Mitchell let loose on this evening’s Hardball, speaking of “fake interviews,” and decrying that she was unable to report on pertinent aspects of the trip because the media has been excluded and that the video released is unreliable because it’s impossible to know what has been edited out. …

MITCHELL: Let me just say something about the message management. He didn’t have reporters with him, he didn’t have a press pool, he didn’t do a press conference while he was on the ground in either Afghanistan or Iraq. What you’re seeing is not reporters brought in. You’re seeing selected pictures taken by the military, questions by the military, and what some would call fake interviews, because they’re not interviews from a journalist. So, there’s a real press issue here. Politically it’s smart as can be. But we’ve not seen a presidential candidate do this, in my recollection, ever before.

The New Republic, 7/24:

Reporters who cover Obama these days grouse that Obama’s flacks shroud the campaign in secrecy and provide little to no access. “They’re more disciplined than the Bush people,” a reporter on the Obama trail gripes. “There was this idea of being transparent, but they’re not. They’re total tightwads with information.”

In June, there was something of a revolt after Obama ditched the press corps on his campaign plane for a secret meeting with Clinton at Senator Dianne Feinstein’s house in Washington, leaving the reporters trapped on the flight to Chicago. . . .

Meanwhile, there have been widespread complaints over the shortage of spots to accompany Obama on his tour of the Middle East and Europe. A few days before the tour departed, Time magazine was told it couldn’t send a photographer along, and, on July 22, NBC foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell complained on-air that the only images the press had received of Obama meeting with the troops was released by the U.S. military. (To be fair, congressional delegations to Iraq are kept secret for security purposes). And there’s been widespread grumbling that the campaign revoked New Yorker writer Ryan Lizza’s spot on the trip as retribution for the magazine’s recent satirical cover. These may or may not be legitimate complaints–the evidence is mixed–but the press is hardly inclined to give the campaign the benefit of the doubt.

Obama’s press liaison, Robert Gibbs, has built a particularly large reservoir of ill will. David Mendell, who covered Obama’s Senate campaign for the Chicago Tribune and authored the 2007 Obama book From Promise to Power, wrote about Gibbs as “the anti-Obama” and described him as “Obama’s hired gun, skillfully trained to shoot at reporters whose coverage was deemed unfair. Mendell tells me, “if [Gibbs] feels you’re necessary to achieve a campaign goal, he will give you access and allow you in. But, if he feels you’re not going to be of help, he can just ignore you.” Mendell has his own specific gripe: Apparently, the Obama team was less than pleased with his biography, on which they cooperated, and Gibbs has since refused to help with the second edition.

Much of this is certainly the run-of-the-mill complaining of campaign reporters who can’t get enough access. Still, the campaign hasn’t helped itself, approaching reporters with a sense of entitlement. “They’re an arrogant operation. Young and arrogant,” one reporter covering the campaign says. “They don’t believe in transparency with their own campaign,” another says.

Reporters who have covered Obama’s biography or his problems with certain voter blocs have been challenged the most aggressively. “They’re terrified of people poking around Obama’s life,” one reporter says. “The whole Obama narrative is built around this narrative that Obama and David Axelrod built, and, like all stories, it’s not entirely true. So they have to be protective of the crown jewels.” Another reporter notes that, during the last year, Obama’s old friends and Harvard classmates were requested not to talk to the press without permission.

As tensions escalate, the risk to Obama, of course, is that reporters will be emboldened to challenge his campaign ever more aggressively

Media Matters, 7/29:

But back to Obama. Any discussion about his press relations and whether his campaign has walled out reporters takes place against the backdrop of the Beltway conventional wisdom that McCain enjoys an easygoing kinship with reporters because his free-wheeling, media-loving campaign boasts an “almost obsessive level of press access,” as Ana Marie Cox stressed in a recent issue of Radar. (It’s access that, as Media Matters for America’s Jamison Foser pointed out, serves no real purpose unless reporters put it to use by asking McCain probing questions.)

“Covering McCain is a blast,” wrote Cox. “He genuinely likes reporters: He’ll joke with us about our drinking habits, playfully request our cell phones in the middle of a call and tell some unsuspecting editor or parent that the phone’s owner has just been hauled off to rehab, and engage in gleefully sarcastic banter about both our colleagues and his.”

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-10 00:57:17

This info offers no credible explanation as to why, the msm has been so kind and often biased in favor of 0bama.

As an American citizen, I am terrified of an 0bam presidency whre he would limit acces to reporters and his administration would be shrouded in secret.

This is unacceptable.

 
 

Comment by InsightAnalytical-GRL | 2008-09-10 00:33:41

Why should she? The opposition keeps shooting themselves in the foot…it’s smart to stay out of the way while they do it, and not be drawn into the middle of it or give credence to their crap!!

She hasn’t a thing to hide…while Obama certainly does…

Comment by Dr. Zarkov | 2008-09-10 00:49:30

I’m not so worried about her having nothing to hide as I am about her having nothing to show.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-10 08:41:47

What does she need to say? Right now, let’s focus on Obama that is providing enough fodder to sink his campaign. Palin is VP pick anyway. I think Obama missed is civics class and thinks he’s now running against Palin. Outclassed again, just as he was by Clinton. Obama’s response: use smears.

 
 
 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-09-10 00:34:38

She’s got an in-depth interview with Charlie Gibson this week. BTW, I love it when you guys bold the talking points that you get from the mothership.