Erosion
By Truthteller on September 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM in Electoral College, Florida, General Election, McCain/Palin 2008, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Sarah Palin, Washington state
216 for McCain-Palin, 217 for Obama-Biden, 105 Toss Ups: Obama’s lead in the electoral college has officially eroded. Here is Survey USA’s report about the state of electoral affairs in Washington state:
Democrat Barack Obama’s once double-digit lead in Washington state is no more, according to this latest SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KING-TV Seattle and KATU-TV Portland Oregon. In an election today, eight weeks till votes are counted, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 45%. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll 4 weeks ago (before both candidates had named their running mates), Obama is down 2 points; McCain is up 1. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll 8 weeks ago, Obama is down 6; McCain is up 6. Obama led by 17 points in June, led by 16 points in July, led 8 points in August, leads 4 points today.
Among voters with no college education, there is continuing movement to McCain. Obama led by 15 points in July, now trails by 8, a 23-point erosion. Among voters who earn less than $50K a year, there is continuing movement to McCain. Obama’s once 26-point lead among the lower-income group is now 5 points, a 21-point erosion. Among voters older than McCain, Obama had led by 24 points in July, now trails by 1, a 25-point erosion. McCain always has run well among Conservatives, but his advantage among Conservatives has grown from 4:1 in May to 11:1 today. In Eastern Washington state, Obama led 5:4 in June, but McCain leads 2:1 today.
The erosion of Obama’s once staggering lead is not limited to Washington state; it has also altered the landscape of Montana. I quote Rasmussen Reports:
John McCain has opened a double digit lead over Barack Obama in Montana. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Treasure State finds McCain leading by eleven, 53% to 42%.
That’s quite a change from late July when the race was a toss-up. Montana has voted for a Republican candidate in nine of the last ten presidential elections but Obama had made clear his intention to compete for the state’s three Electoral College votes. The candidate himself spent the Fourth of July in Butte, Montana and his campaign ran significant television advertising in the state. However, just before the Democratic National Convention, Obama stopped advertising in Montana and several other traditionally Republican states.
The erosion is also occuring in North Dakota. I quote Rasmussen Reports again:
Like neighboring Montana, North Dakota has become a lot friendlier to John McCain in the first polling conducted since Sarah Palin was nominated to be the Republican Vice Presidential nominee.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of North Dakota voters shows McCain with a 14-percentage point lead over Barack Obama, 55% to 41%. In early July, the candidates were tied in the state and Obama was looking to the Dakotas and Montana as a way to expand the electoral map for Democrats. Now, the Democratic nominee appears to be more focused on traditional battleground states.
But North Carolina really bore the brunt of this displacement of geological proportions. I quote ABC 11 News in Raleigh-Durham:
In 3 previous SurveyUSA NC tracking polls, McCain had led by 8, 5, and 4 points. Today: 20. McCain has gained ground in every demographic group. Among men, McCain led by 9 last month, 27 today. Among women, Obama led by 2 last month, trails by 12 today. McCain holds 9 of 10 Republican voters; Obama holds 3 of 4 Democratic voters; independents, who were split last month, break today crisply for McCain, where, in the blink of an eye, he is up by 25.
In a blink of an eye, a veritable avalanche followed in the wake of Sarah Palin’s emergence. States once competitive were swept into McCain’s columns, while others, particularly those “traditional battleground states,” are quickly sliding toward the precipice. McCain is hovering above the fifty percent threshold in Missouri; he leads Obama by 1 point in Nevada; he is inching ahead of Obama in Michigan; McCain-Palin trounces the Democratic ticket in Florida by a seemingly insurmountable 8 points; the gap separating Obama and McCain in New Jersey is closing; and Ohio is teetering on the brink: unless Obama can move mountains, the prospect of a Democratic victory will be nothing more than a pebble plummeting into a Republican abyss.
No wonder why Democrats on Capitol Hill are panicking. And no wonder why Obama is resorting to some of the most deplorable tactics imaginable. But Obama is desperate, and desperate candidates will do and say anything in a vain attempt to reverse a course that can only be described as inexorable.










































Missouri will be solid red before much longer. I will be running anti-barky ads in my local paper. I will do whatever it takes to keep that from ruining my country.
I’m in a battleground state and am planning a McCain event. Those are promoted on the McCain website, you may want to go that route as well.
I live in KS. Never have been able to do much here to change to map to blue, so my family and I always travel to MO a couple of times every 4 years to campaign for the Dems. NOT. THIS. YEAR. I cannot do it for. this. candidate. If I do make those trips to MO, it’ll be to knock on doors for McCain/Palin, the first time I will have EVER worked a campaign for a Repub…but then this year is the first time I’ll vote for one too. This coming from a die-hard Dem who has worked campaigns for 40 years, since I was old enough to lick stamps and from someone who marched on Washington in protest of the selection of GWBush and in the voter’s rights march a few months later. This from a now registered Independent. Thanks, but not thanks, Sen. Obama. I don’t like your brand of democrat!
So this is what Obama meant by “uniting” the country? Obama is uniting Dem and Repub voters for McCain/Palin!
Early this morning I spent some time on the Rasmussen site and checked out the “History of changes of electoral votes” from Aug 22nd to Sept 9th and came up with a trend which I commented downthread:
GOP moved up in 8 States:
State from to elect. votes
AK likely GOP safe GOP 3
ND leans GOP likely GOP 3
MT leans GOP likely GOP 3
TN likely GOP safe GOP 11
LA likely GOP safe GOP 9
SD leans GOP likely GOP 3
NC leans GOP likely GOP 15
OH toss up leans GOP 20
no declines anywhere
whereas the DEM declined in 6 States:
NM leans DEM toss up 5
ME safe DEM likely DEM 4
CT safe DEM likely DEM 7
OR likely DEM leans DEM 7
CO leans DEM toss up 9
WI likely DEM leans DEM 10
no move ups anywhere
This trend of the last 2 weeks is very telling, I think. No wonder they are worried.
WOW!! very revealing.
And that’s with Michelle’s noticeable absence alongside Obama – while John and Cindy appear together.
This warms my heart.
This is typically what you’ll see is US presidential elections. Republican voters, on the whole, tend to vote more with the “head” rather than the “heart”. As such, they tend to remain undecided until later in the process. But as election day draws near, they begin to line up behind the Republican ticket. This is why every preidential election since 1968 has seen a late movement to the GOP, with the exception of 1992 (when Ross Perot screwed up the equation) and 1996 (when Bill Clinton was a safe incumbent and the Repubs fielded a weak candidate in Bob Dole).
I think this is especially true this year since there are an awful lot of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents who are disenchanted with the Bush administration. Now they’re starting to line up behind McCain.
Gov. Palin is coming to Colorado twice in September and the event had to be moved to a bigger arena because of demand…and it sold out in 8 hours. She is also coming back the 3rd time right before the 1st presidential debate for a high price luncheon. If she keeps on hanging out in this state, the toss up will definitely lean red imo.
If I were John McCain. I would send Sarah to these light blue states just to freak out BO. Send her to 4 of the battle ground states.
I predict as more states go from leaning to, to solid, in the red, he will use his resources and energy in battleground states and the light blue ones will start to seem worth additional effort. Good idea yo send Sarah to those places, I think she will help him the most in those areas.
Nobama is like the Republicans of yore. Whatever he says and thinks, the opposite is true. Remember, he thinks the more people see him the more they love him. What a fool he is. Just like Bush. Remember the talks with Rick Warren? 0bama was not only beat to a pulp by McCain, 0bama was so boring as to be unwatchable. If he starts pouring money and campaigning into the battleground states, McCain and Palin can just sit back and munch the popcorn. I am tempted to send Nobama money just to accelerate his implosion. What a twit! McCain/Plain 2008…..Hillary in 2012!
alibe4hillary — The reason Obama is losing is because of his attacks against Sarah Palin. A lot of the Dems going for McCain are Hillary gals and they are voting principles and values over issues this year. Howard Dean thought he could diss the Democratic Base and win with Repubs and Indies. He didn’t realize that the candidate he pushed into the nomination was tone deaf when it came to sensitivity. Obama will lose and he will take the Democratic ticket down with him. As a lifelong Democratic I say Goodbye and Good Riddance.
Obama is falling behind for more reasons than Palin. Yes one is that he should NEVER have attacked her. Stupid. Biden should speak out respectfully and challenge and/or debate Palin on issues only.
Bill Maher on HBO show called Palin a “stewardess” as though this is an insult. The sexism implied is doubled by his low opinion of women he feels are not elite enough or liberal enough?
Can you imagine how hard working decent women who have been [or are] stewardesses
must feel and think when this kind of drivel is spewed by a so called liberal lefty comic?
Maher’s contempt for women is overt. Even if he doesn’t share Palin’s ideas, she is a candidate and should be treated with respect. It should be possible to challenge her ideas without insulting references and blatant sexist behavior.
There is an unfortunate need to attack any woman running for office and demeaning her sexually. Hillary was accused at MSNBC as “pimping” Chelsea because she was on the campaign trail with her mom. Palin has had photoshopped bikini photos around that are denigrating lies.
Women appear very threatening to Camp Obama, and the more of this kind of dirt is slung, the more Obama will fade.
Instead of connecting viscerally with voters and explaining his positions and feeling their pain, he swipes at a female VP and uses the “Lipstick” analogy inappropriately. Even if he didn’t mean to insult Pailin it showed an ill timed use of Obama’s choice of words.
Palin isn’t his only problem.
NorrisMorris
Good insights. But of course Obama INTENDED TO INSULT PALIN IN HIS USUAL CAMOUFLAGED MISOGYNISTIC MANNER….
Did you not see him in N.C. day after his pathetic ABC debate in Pa.? He did his rapper-wannabe routine in:’
“Obama Gives Hilary the Finger”! dusting and scraping off his shoes as if (Hillary were excrement!
SHAME ON BARACk!!
Karma’s a bitch….November 5th
Make BHO spend $ and energy battling for states like OH and MI. I think that Mac and Palin campaigning together is very energetic, draws big crowds and will enrage the precious.
Since last March I have told everyone who would listen that MO won’t go for BO. I was one of the idiot Dems who voted for McCaskill because I couldn’t stand her predecessor – now I am waxing positively nostalgic about the little twit.
I am far to the left of the average voter here, but I know most have large amounts of native common sense in their genes. I could even understand (reluctantly) why they voted for Bush. What I can’t understand is how BO, hailing from an adjoining state, trashes so much of the population that resembles his own constituency!
We all know that Bill Clinton is a policy wonk, Rhodes scholar, intellectual – yet he would never marginalize and patronize vast chunks of the populace. For all his faults, he is a man of the people underneath, while Obama is, you might say, the “true fake”. He shows us nothing and I come from the Show Me state.
Dear MOMule. Good for you on your change of heart!
I cannot stand to see that McCaskill woman on the TV. She is the most horrible person. I guess she thought that she might get the VP nod from BO. She is a traitor to all woman-kind. I think it will be such poetic justice for McCain/Palin to win MO! I will be watching that state closely on election night.
For the first time, I am not sad that TX is now a Republican state. I have bemoaning that for years but now I see the Dems are totally nuts! I thought it was pretty nuts to nominate Kerry, but after what they have done to Hillary Clinton after all she has done for them, I think they are really nuts.
I hope the Clintons devote their remaining years to getting a new, viable, third party started. Meanwhile, I am hoping for McCain/Palin for 8 years and Palin/?? for 8 more.
Granny
Yes! Yes! Yea!
HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD START A THIRD PARTY. THE VOICE OF MODERATE PROGRESSIVES!!
Canada has 3 (now 4 with Green Party) major parties. If it weren’t for the Third, Canada would not have Univesal Health Care since 1965 and the major causes of bankruptcies are NOT medical bills as they’re in the States!
3rd Party is only rational solution. One that would respect Women and outlaw MISOGYNY!
All the Democrats needed to do to win was to act like Democrats.
Now all the Republicans need to do to win is not act like Republicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg
LOL! Truer words were never spoken.
I am now on permanent Propaganda watch. The tables have turned.
What better serendipity than to allow the Republicans to Clean up the mess in DC by republicans. Both Parties have been corrupted by Corporate Lobby suck-up. Obama WILL NOT REFORM, but I believe McCain/Palin WILL!
The Obamacrats/DNC with Pelosi at the helm DID NOT WALK the talk.
roseeriter,
I believe this, too from the bottom of my heart. 0bama has been bought by special interests. Remember the abc producer who was arrested in Denver because he was outside the hotel photographing lobbyists and corporate donors having a special meeting?
They’re all so deep into the tank for 0bama even abc didn’t give this incident a lot of news time.
I’m not buying the Dems load of dung this time.
They’ll have to:
WIN WITHOUT ME!
The only people voting for the democrats are these angry lefties this go around. The party will be finished. I predicted it, but I didn’t think it would happen this go around.
Perry Logan — Well said. I believe the Republican Party will become more moderate as millions more Democrats join. In 1980 they won with the Reagan Democrats–this shift is far larger and can become a more permanent constituancy.
Virginia and Indiana will be red. No doubt. John McCain will keep CO and NV red. All he needs to do is pick-up either PA or OH- both would be great! Obama is toast. The DNC should have listened to Hillary, she was telling the absolute truth: “He can’t change the map. He can’t win.”
Republicans have always carried Ohio to win. Where Kerry took Pennsylvania in 2004 and maybe Biden can help with that state. I would focus on Ohio more, if I were McCain. JMO.
I live in PA. I know PA. PA will not go to Nobama
Tuppence — Democrats have been held hostage by the electoral map since Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1965. That was when the Dems lost the South and only Carter after Watergate and Clinton because of Ross Perot have won since. Dean was right that the Democrats needed to expand their electoral map in states they have lost to Republicans for the last 40 years. To do that they would have needed Hillary Clinton–but Dean and Pelosi forced Obama on the Democratic Party and now they will have the rest of their lives to reflect on how they lost an election they couldn’t lose.
Can someone explain to me why Iowa is going for Obama?
CORN. Honestly- Obama hands out big ass corn subsidies. You know our food, that’s being turning into fuel that won’t make a bit of difference to the energy crisis, while food prices go sky high and babies starve. That CORN. Oh and let’s not forget the CRAP wheat products we import from China that also kills babies and pets so our fields can be used to grow more corn.
Sen Jay Rockefeller stated two weeks ago that he thought WV was up for grabs. New survey yesterday says only about half of the state’s democrats support Obama. Don’t listen to Jay. WV stays in the GOP column.
Also. The map in this story has OH and IN grey. I don’t agree with that evaluation. IN has voter ID laws that helped keep Obama from using Gary to steal the primary and OH law enforcement is on high ACORN alert. Any swing state that is launching voter fraud initiatives is a state that Obama and his Al Capones should write off.
What is Jay Rockefeller smoking? He needs to step away from the crack pipe.
But I guess he’s doing what all the high profile Dems are doing along in the msm: brainwash the American voters.
From the beginning of this Presidential Election cycle they’ve been practising brainwashing techniques on us. They really think if they say it enough times, we’ll believe it’s true.
Sorry, some of us have minds of our own.
Obama and his goose stepping minions won’t be pulling any shady shit in Indiana. You have to show photo ID and you have to sign into a voter registration book. They match your signature to one they have on file. If it doesn’t match, your name isn’t in the book or it’s already signed, you don’t vote-period. Most of the volunteers are seniors, I trust them. I am still going to watch polling sites though to make sure in case some of Obama’s people volunteer. I’ll be getting in someone’s face if they break the rules.
Last week’s polls have McCain dropping from a double digit lead to only +5 pts. It is one of the dirtiest political systems, too, very corrupt leaders. Kennedy bought WV. It won the election for Clinton in 1992. It is also a very sexist state. While Hillary easily won the primary there, nearly 15% of the state Democrats voted for Edwards! That tells you something. WV always had a strong Democratic trend. It usually swings blue. And the Cook County system has been known to buy votes.
Do you seriously think that the inbred mountain hicks in WV are going to vote for a liberal black man for president?
If you do, please save me some of whatever you’re smoking.
Well, I told you so from Day I. We have been consistent supporters of Senator Clinton. Since Day One, when the Dems stared pushing this evil politician of hate mongering and disrepect for our country. We said no way, no how, noobama-Soetoro, Little Boots can go back to Chicago cess pool corruption, the worst in our nation and join his party buds, Levine and Rezko, hopefully in prison.
Obarky can see the handwriting on the wall why else do think he went to Bill C. for help. He even flipped his pride to do it but what’s one more flip. If Hillary has any sense she will stay away from this cancer before it infects her. With him on the ropes it is time for the Repugs to lay the wood to him, and bring in the storm troopers Rev. Wright, Father Pflager, Ayres, Rezco, Micheles whitey tape, Acorn, etc. etc.I just cannot wait.
Yes.
guido — I still hope for Obama’s sake he doesn’t do this — but yesterday Hannity said Obama is going to appear on Saturday Night Live tonight mocking Palin in a skit with actress Tina Fey. If Obama wants to turn more women against him this is the way to do it.
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/obama-lucifer-saul-alinsky-community-organizer-god-damn-america-wright-farrakhan-obama-no-christian-heads-up-from-rush-limbaugh/
The breadth of Obama’s deception is limitless.
to be fair Hillary Clinton was a student of alinsky as well. However Barack took the lucifer thing a bit too far.
Hillary discarded Alinsky teachings years and years ago. And anyone in college studying Political Science reads all kind os political ideology books. I’ve read most of them too including Malcolm X and the books about KKK, Socialism etc. Its called education which a good student wants to know and understand BOTH sides or all sides of an issue one is interested in. I’ve also ‘tested’ most religions and concluded that no organized religion was the answer.
Live and Learning critical thinking is a must for survival.
What, you are a Hillary supporter and you studied??? I thought we were all uneducated, low class, stupid white woman??? And clinging to religion as well???
shhhhhhhhhh Mirlo don’t let the cat out of the bag
LOL! A thirst for knowledge isn’t owned by colleges.
don’t forget the guns… bitter folks are like that…
Please teach me how to use a gun. I am feeling really bitter.
I think Hillary wrote about this in a Thesis and said she interviewed Alinsky twice. she said his thoughts were confusing and had no consistency. She rejected his ideas.
Hillary was like all teenagers, as a teenager. She tried on several hats at an age where I believe she was discovering who she is politically. She started as a Goldwater Girl from a strong paternal GOP influence, but she came of age in the days where MLK, JFK, and RFK were the most influential leaders of the day. Post-segregation America probably needed a Saul Alinsky to help swing the tide for a group of citizens, who, for the first time, began to have a voice in our society.
As Hillary has matured, and the pendulum has swung too far to the left perhaps, she has moved to the middle, and reflects a more tempered vision of America.
This election cycle was necessary for the Democratic party. Overconfident of a solid victory down ticket, they squandered a Majority lead achieved in 2006 in the House and the Senate and made a point of acheiving zilch. This, I believe was done intentionally, with hope that a faltering economy would reflect solely on Pres. Bush. We already were distrustful of him, and it was easy for the average American to believe that everything that goes wrong must be the fault of Leader in charge.
The GOP knows they had become the pariahs of the U.S., and they learned quickly after the 2006 elections that they needed to regain the confidence of middle Americans. this is where they differ from Democrats drastically, when the GOP loses an election cycle, they regroup and strive to become more like the “Average guy”, the Dems do the opposite, they let the single issue voters, and the most extreme faction of the party dictate the ideology that they run their next campaign upon. They move farther away from Middle Americans, embrace the east coast-west coast image of the country, and then gripe about, and try to bully the fly over moderates for not being “intelligent” enough to discard their own moral compasses and embrace their Ultra liberal agenda that will only increase their burden, and further isolate them from any hop of having a voice in the policies that matter to MOST Americans. The European model is not the American one, and I strongly suggest that we use our votes to send a message of our own to the Democratic party this November. It is time for the DNC to respond the way NBC responded last week with two of their top anchors at MSNBC, the Dems need to demote or get rid of the extremists, promote the moderates in the party to the helm and dispatch politicians and volunteers on what Bill Clinton called a “listening tour”. Don’t send them to either coastline, concentrate on the middle and heed the NONexperts on policy. When the DNC can achieve this, they will hold the key to the White House once again.
The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Republicans want to win.
Hillary was a “Goldwater Girl” too, but that was a long time ago. When she discovered the civil rights movement and started working on behalf of it, that’s when she became the Democrat she is today.
I like it that she has been on both sides. That’s bipartisanship. She may think the Republicans have the wrong ideas, but they are not the enemies. Tell that to the Obamacrats.
And we’ll have fun, fun, fun till the voters send Obama aaaaawaaaaaaay! This election has become soooooo fun watching the new age stormtroopers get their candy asses handed to them by the Pros and good old common sense of the electorate in being able to sniff out a conman.
I’m not going to celebrate until a week before the election. If John McCain is leading he’ll win. This is the way it was for George Bush. Not to mention Obama over polls, and the undeceideds didn’t break for BO either.
And we’ll really have fun, fun, fun when Patrick Fitzgerald puts Obama aaaaawaaaaaaay!
secular — did you happen to see The McCains on The View yesterday? Barb and the bitches trashed them in every way possible. These East Coast Liberals like the women on The View love to put down middle America’s values and whenever Dems nominate a Liberal this is the reason they lose.
I predict we are going to see lots of the First Dude Todd Palin speaking directly to his fellow He-men in MI,OH, PA, and CO. And won’t that be great! A real macho guy, works with his hands all day ( but has no problems changing diapers or feeding babies) assuring fellow working class men they have nothing to fear from a strong,competent, working women. That it doesn’t diminish their masculinity to support the achievements of their wives, to respect their accomplishments, to be a real partner in the home and family life. OMG- brought to us by the Republicans! Who would’ve thunk it?
Dead on accurate. Who would have counted on the GOP to flip gender roles with a smile and with backbone? But they did. And that’s change we can really see – and support.
Sorry, BO; I guess picking Hillary was above your pay grade.
The Consequences of Rejecting Hillary
Fred Barnes
Thu Sep 11,2008
Washington (The Daily Standard) – IT’S WIDELY ACCEPTED now that Barack Obama would be better off if he’d picked Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate instead of Joe Biden. Obama had his reasons, particularly his discomfort with her as his actual vice president if he’s elected. Still, Obama sacrificed a stronger ticket by rejecting Clinton.
Absent Hillary, the contest between Obama-Biden and the Republican ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin is throwing the Democrats into disarray. The consequences of Obama’s veep decision appear mostly to favor McCain. And if Obama had picked Hillary? Here are a few of the differences.
No Palin. Okay, McCain might have picked her anyway. He was looking for a running mate who would help him shake up the campaign. And Palin has delivered spectacularly on that. But choosing her would have seemed far less of a game-changer had Obama picked Clinton. Palin would have been merely the second female running mate in 2008. And her appeal to those who had voted for Clinton in the primaries would have been reduced if not nullified altogether.
As a result, the prospects of the other potential game-changers McCain was considering–Democratic senator Joe Lieberman and pro-choice ex-Pennsylvania governor Tom Ridge–would surely have risen. And while it’s unknowable whether McCain would have picked Palin if Obama had gone with Clinton, selecting Palin would have been a lot less likely.
No Biden. He’s not an albatross, but he certainly hasn’t given Obama a boost. He has brought no balance to the ticket, not in regard to class, gender, ideology, or anything except longevity in Washington. Worse, unlike Palin, he’s generated no enthusiasm or excitement. Biden has little appeal to the working class voters, especially women, who swarmed to Clinton in the primaries. He lacks the populist streak that Clinton had fashioned for herself. Biden is simply a weaker running mate.
Party unity. Democrats have come together fairly well behind the Obama-Biden ticket–but not as well as they would have if Obama had chosen Clinton. We still hear from disgruntled Hillary backers. Reporters have discovered they’re easy to find at McCain-Palin rallies. Polls can’t tell us how many will ultimately vote for McCain and Palin. But a chunk of them will–perhaps a few million–which means that Democrats aren’t as unified as they might have been.
Ohio and Pennsylvania. Republicans figured these states, notably Pennsylvania, were all but goners if Clinton won the Democratic nomination. Even as veep, she’d have had a favorable impact. When she was passed over by Obama, Republicans jumped for joy. Ohio, which a Republican presidential candidate has to win, now leans McCain. Pennsylvania, which is crucial to a Democratic candidate’s chances, has become a ripe target of opportunity for McCain.
Arkansas. As a Southern state, Arkansas is inclined to vote Republican in presidential races unless there’s a compelling reason not to. One of those reasons: a Clinton on the Democratic ticket. Without Clinton, Arkansas moves into the leaning (strongly) McCain camp.
Vice presidential debate. This is a no-brainer. Who would be the easier opponent for Palin to face in the nationally televised debate on October 2? Clinton or Biden? The tough woman or Senator Windbag? Biden will have to be on his best behavior and treat Palin gingerly. Clinton wouldn’t have had to.
Republican women. Mark Penn, chief strategist in the Clinton campaign, once insisted that 25 percent of Republican women were ready to vote for her for president. Many crossed party lines and voted for her in the primaries. Many of those women might have voted for an Obama-Clinton ticket. But how many Republican women are going to reject Palin and vote for an Obama-Biden ticket? Mighty few.
Because of all the problems associated with the Clintons–husband Bill, her relatively high unfavorability in polls, Clinton fatigue–Hillary Clinton appeared to be the wrong running mate for Obama. I thought so. I was mistaken. As Clinton won primaries in big states and developed a populist appeal to downscale white voters, her political value soared. As it turns out, Obama needed her. McCain is lucky Obama missed his chance.
Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
Obama didn’t pick Clinton because he didn’t want to share the limelight with her and he didn’t want President Clinton hovering in the background of his Presidency. Now he won’t have to worry about that senario after he loses and goes back to the Senate to do some work for a change. Don’t think he’s going to be too popular there however, because they will blame him if they lose congress as well.
Excellent idea.
Todd should be going directly for the men’s vote in MI and CO where he can show them he’s one of them and he understand! After all, he’s union like many in MI, he lives in the north country, understands 2nd amendment rights, drives a snowmachine and is a strong family man. Strong enough in his own right to appreciate and fully support his strong wife. He should also appeal to the Native American population with his own Eskimo heritage.
Both Todd and Sarah Palin show so many sides of their “regular people-ness” they appeal to a wide swatch of the voting population.
I think John McCain chose wisely. McCain got two for the price of one when he chose Palin. Ironically, the same could have been achieved by Obama had he chosen Hillary. Both women have husbands that “manly men” can relate to. Bill Clinton still has the highest IQ of any American President, and despite what the Obama campaign would have us believe, if Barack is elected to the WH, neither he, nor Joe Biden would take that claim to fame away from Bill. The difference is, that the average person perceives Bill to be an average guy. Bill has a gift on never talking down to his audience, he is humble and he appears to be fascinated and awed by the company he is surrounded by. That is a gift in a politician, and cannot be taught or learned, from a textbook.
Let’s hope Todd has a similar ease in his own skin while campaigning in the battleground states and can be used effectively to help seal the deal for McCain.
Yep. I think it’s why the democrats said they are going to subpoena him in the “troopergate” investigation. They are trying to intimidate Todd Palin and the entire family…in addition to bankrupting them.
Sorry, Obamabots, but that’s not change I choose to believe in or agree with.
Canadian, dude, unless you’re post is a snark you are one fucked in yer head dude/dudette.
Keep showing your true colours.
I wrote this on 9/11, after watching it all happen again…I probably should have posted it in the Thank You thread below, but it also seems appropriate here, because the Erosion this thread speaks of is thanks in large part to you all…
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I just watched the Towers fall again.
And the world stopped. It changed. We would never be the same.
Seven years later and here we are. We haven’t had another attack, but we’ve lost thousands of America’s finest. I will not debate the merits of the Iraq war. I believe that I, as a centrist Republican, and all you good people differ on that issue. But that does not diminish my affection for you, and I do not disparage your opinion. The world, and the issues that comprise it, is painted in shades of grey. Like the ash, like the ash that covered the World’s City.
Seven years later and here we are.
Do you know something? My heart is bursting with sorrow…and joy. I love my country. We came together on Sept. 12, after the ‘dust’ had settled, with a resolve that I contend no other nation in the modern world could muster. We were, for a very short and wonderful time, filled with righteous indignation. We were like the Spartans facing the coming hordes of Xerces. There would be retribution. We were angry, and no matter what any Eurocentric appeaser might say, we had EVERY RIGHT TO BE. But on the fringes of society, had we bothered to notice, we would have seen the crazed faces of the tormentors to come, we would have noticed that the Asylum doors somehow slipped open and the untamed frantic specters of our collective Id had coalesced into something nascent, something so horrifyingly ugly that – had we noticed – we would have crushed, swiftly.
Most of us, both parties, put our faith in a man whom I voted for. To lead, to find those responsible and to flush them out. I only wonder what might have been had President Bush had General David Petreus to lead this effort from the start. I only wonder what might have been had President Bush heeded the advice of people who questioned our ‘after-victory’ strategy, people like John McCain. Remember, almost everyone voted for this war, that’s a fact. Barack Obama did not. He did not have to. He gave a speech. What’s new.
Seven years later and here we are.
Our nation has become polarized, the fanatics have escaped the Asylum, and from out of corporate America, Hope emerged. Oh, sweet heaven above us, he could talk. He presented himself as the embodiment of the righteous answer to every wrong ever perpetrated in the history of this nation. He was Stephen King’s Walking Dude, amassing a collective of ideological stalwarts and confirming the worst fears of those of us in the middle of society, that the Asylum had been purchased, the Corporation was in control, and the collected ravings of our emotional insecurities was steamrolling his way to the White House.
In March, I began having trouble sleeping. I am not lying about this. I would toss and turn in my bed, worrying endlessly about the future for my two boys, one nine, one five. You see, I have studied history throughout my life. I thrive on it, on the science of politics and society. There is one undeniable historical fact that holds up to the tests of history, from cause and effect to policy: No nation state or Empire that has ever embraced appeasement and public self-mockery has ever – EVER – survived.
But I’m a Republican you understand. And I had no hope. In 2004, I wrote in a man I have always respected named John McCain for president (and his close friend Joe Lieberman for his running mate). It’s not that I hate or disrespect President Bush (I know, this is something we disagree on, hopefully respectfully). But I was watching what was happening in Iraq and was frustrated that too much faith had been put in men who were obviously not up to the task of winning this war. I wanted change, not in America, but in Iraq.
But I’m a Republican you understand. And there was no hope. The man I was supporting was ending his campaign, at least that’s what the media told me. He was carrying his own bags through airports and was, according to some, preparing a press conference to call it quits. It didn’t surprise me you see, my party had been taken over by the extreme Right Wing and was dying. There was no hope in the party, we were failing, even from within.
Then something began to happen. John McCain, never a man to quit in the face of adversity, kept soldiering on. He kept moving forward with a singular, positive message of hope and of the goodness of America. He never talked about appeasing the desires and perceptions of our friends in Europe (and they ARE our friends, but we need not seek their approval). He never talked disparagingly about our great nation. He spoke to what it was to be an American, what it was to fight for something you believe in and what it means, ultimately, to put your country first.
Somehow, whether it be divine providence (I don’t believe in such things as divinity and heaven, but I’m human and certainly could be wrong) or simple attrition, by March my party had chosen its candidate – and low and behold it was my hero, John McCain.
The Democrats laughed. “Lovely! Thanks for the 72-year old gift,” was the essential sentiment. But little did they know, five short months, a scorched earth policy and the most misogynistic primary campaign later, John McCain entered the convention period of this political process within 10 points of The One, The Messiah, The Id.
While my party began to coalesce around John McCain, something unseen had been born in the Democratic Party. It seems that the Id was unmasked, and that the base of the party was fractured. A hunter emerged from the pack of howling insanity, stealthy, enraged…and hungry. Hungry for a future bereft of the screaming cries of self-adulation, self-destruction and self-contempt. This proud brown hunter emerged unscathed from the fires of self-destruction, looked around in contempt at the screaming, wailing lies that propped up The One, and walked away. Proudly holding its head high, for the entire nation to see, it simply said “I am not of you. I am not of this madness. I will go from you, I will collect myself and I will return to this. I will return because I am HUNGRY. I am hungry and when the time is right…
I
WILL
FEED.
The Puma, angry, righteous and glorified, was born out of the ashes of the Democratic Party. With disdain, it flicked the ashes of its shoulders in derision and staked out its territory. It was ready to feed.
I watched in amazement as the Democratic Party split. Stunned and hopeful. “John,” I said to myself. “You have been given a sign, the cat looks West and it looks to you.”
And, ever the wise sage, ever the statesmen and patriot, he reached out his hand to the huntress, never fearful, and offered the nourishment of compromise. “I hear you,” he said. “I hear you and I understand. This is about much more than politics, this is about our nation. This is about our country and this is about ‘us.’
Not ‘me.’
Not ‘you.’
Not ‘the one.’
Us. We differ on so much but we both share the same vision and love of country. I know this. John McCain knows this. You know this. He listened, he offered compromise…
…and the Puma fed.
…and the One blinked.
Faced with the chance to heal the rift, to gather the party faithful, to pull the Ego and the Superego in and make at least an attempt to move on as a whole, the Id faltered. Always narcissistic, the Id would have none of that. You see, when you spend eternity screaming in silence against the roiling mass of nothingness that is self-love, the thought of shared thought, shared vision and shared authority is untenable.
The One chose the Nothing, the Ordinary, the Meek and Vapid. The Puma was enraged, and the hunger returned.
Flash forward, the One ascends from the heavens to the acropolis, and the world watches in awe as the most derivative, pedantic and pedestrian missive ever read to a groveling public is greeted with an orgiastic burst of adulation.
“He is risen, he is here, we are no longer sinners and racists and war fighting heathens. We are enlightened, evolved and progressive. We are the Id. We are the One. We can now like ourselves.”
The Puma was filled with the hunger of indignation. But John McCain remembered and he heard and he knew.
“America is NOT broken. We are NOT the problem.”
“Washington is broken,” he said. And he took the one great leap, the one great step, the one great move towards real hope and real change and chose Destiny.
“World, meet Destiny. Destiny, meet world.”
She was stunning, Destiny, she was nothing that the nation had ever seen. Riding out of the mountains of the last, great frontier, Destiny burst onto the national stage with the steely grace and resolve that has defined this country from its inception.
And with one speech, one simple and authentic life story, Destiny eclipsed the One and now we watch, we watch as the Id flails in insane mockery of everything America stands for. Tears of real and honest joy fell from my eyes as she spoke because she was me. She was my wife, she was my kids…she was America. She slips blithely through life, dealing with every adversity evenly, with the resolve and grace of every man, every woman and every child that ever put its nation in front of itself.
And the Id continues to scream. “Pig! Liar! Cheat! Novice! Whore!…. WOMAN!!” It screams these terms with derision, feeding the lost souls who are forever attached to it, not realizing that those with the ability to reason, those who think for themselves but are nonetheless attracted to the glossy hum of the One, are repulsed. We are all, at once point or another, all of the things he screams, and that fact does not lessen us. We are all Americans…We are all Destiny.
She is America. She is NOT perfect. She is NOT monolithic. She is NOT with you on every issue. You are NOT with her on every issue. But America she is and John McCain had the resolve, when faced with HIS first major decision, to put country first, to put country on the ticket, and to give the middle a place to call home.
“Thank you,” I say to you all. “I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating. Your anger, your hunger for something outside what you were offered did an amazing thing. It gave me my party back, and maybe, just maybe, John McCain will win this thing and help you get your party back.”
Issues count, but character counts more. Policy matters, but courage matters more. Who do you want to face the dark, wailing mass of insanity when the walls of reality start closing in? We know the answer, and America is waking up. Waking up to the Maverick, waking up to Destiny and waking up to the real hope, the real change, the real chance we have
TO
TAKE
OUR
COUNTRY
BACK.
I just watched the Towers fall again.
And I am hopeful because somehow, some way, the Hungry Cat, the War-Ravaged Maverick and Destiny’s Icy Grace have become a force, and my country may one day heal.
Take care,
Patrick
Patrick, so well said. PUMAs were called by this ticket, and McCain was willing to bet the house on history – not afraid of relying on a woman to get the job done. The One could not handle that.
Props to McCain for noticing that more than half the country is female and would like some representation….
Patrick, Patrick, Patrick
You made my heart turn over and tears gush from my eyes.
What a soul and brain you have.
What a beautiful tribute to John and Sarah. Thank “you” for sharing your thoughts with us.
If you don’t write for a living
you should
Thanks for this Patrick. The timing was perfect for me because I was thinking just this morning that if more Republicans came out and ADMITTED that BUSH was bad for America and did it on Public Forums more DEMS and Independents would vote McCain with no reservations.
I’m tired of Americans being so divided and Bush CAUSED a lot of it and OBAMA is doing much MORE of this. It has to stop!
I think McCain/Palin is a good first step.
Bush has been a lousy president for the GOP and for the nation. I voted for him in 2004 because the damn democrat party decided to jump off the “electability” cliff with John Kerry and the Iowa caucus participants. I actually think Kerry was a worse candidate for POTUS than Obama….all the ludicrous elitism with none of the charm.
roseeriter — yes. This country is on the ropes. It has been hopelessly divided into the haves and have nots. We need to come together as a nation and McCain could accomplish this–Obama is more of the same division and helplessness. If Americans chooses McCain they choose the future and they choose a strong America. This coming from a life long Democrat who will vote country over party and principles over issues.
Thank you, Patrick, your comment has moved me deeply and I share your hope.
Amen, amen, amen [and I don't subscribe to any particular religion, except love of nature]. There’s no other way for me to respond.
AMEN, Patrick.
And, this is what meant the most to me about John McCain, a man of extraordinarly courage, determination, perseverance, and an unabashed love of country, honor and integrity. His speech–panned by many–was uplifting to me. I was leaning McCain, but during his speech, he reminded me of my own values, taught to me by my father who is buried at Arlington, and my own experiences in the military community as a veteran and the spouse of a veteran. I was swept into memory and recognition of my own bond with John McCain, a fundamental bond of service to country.
For the first time in 8 years, I actually felt like flying an American flag on my home. I hadn’t wanted to do that since G.W.Bush took office. John McCain IS the candidate offering true HOPE and CHANGE. He’s a true leader, in the best sense of the word.
Patrick: I’m a refugee from Republicanism, your story sums up my various feelings over the years.
Wow, what a roller coaster of emotions so many of us have gone through over the years.
I know my path has been shock at the attack on 9/11 to anger at the villians.. to an unease over Saddam, and then to a feeling of peace right after baghdad fell.
And then the betrayals started… I approved of Iraq because I saw it as the beginning of our action against our mortal enemies , Iran and Saudi. But it became clear that Iraq was as far as we were going and our troops were betrayed as they were given a new mission instead of coming home.
And I watch in utter dismay as people in government who approved the war suddenly began to speak against it because an election was approaching, with all sorts of lies and distortions. And then notice the President doing hardly anything to defend what he has gotten us into.
Don’t these people know the enemy is watching us? Don’t these people know the enemy has bet that this very thing would happen.. that people in the US would turn against itself and by doing so give victory to our enemies? They either don’t know becuase they have done nothing to learn about our enemies or they dont care because the election is more important.
And then a ride downwards into disillusionment…. as the Republican Party throws away any last pretense that it is guided by any principle of conservativism… as the President adopts the posture of appeasement with our enemies… as the Democrats, emboldened by their ability to undermine the country in 04 , continue to do so. Disgust as Condi Rice pushes forward with Israel-Palestinian peace process.. haven’t these fools recognized the obvious yet? How stupid are they? Radical Islam spreading further and further. Israel decides it doesn’t want to destroy Hezbellah. The President of Iran is allowed to get away with building nuclear weapons. Hezbellah is in the Americas.. We cant drill our own fuel.. Bush has to beg the Saudis for oil.. The Democrats and the Media launch a propganda war using gays and teenagers as their tools. Iraq falls apart. Our enemies are happy.
Meanwhile, during all this time.. smoke is pouring out of the WTC of Debt, Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Planes have hit it around the same time real planes hit the real WTC. After the Pentagon of bad Debt, Enron, falls apart, many people point to the WTC of Debt and shout fire. Democrats , who manage this new WTC, say.. there is no fire at the WTC of Debt but why did George Bush blow up the Pentagon of Debt with his friends?
Inside the new WTc, the Democrats like Barney Frank, go floor to floor laying oil and fuel.
And Maxine Waters is in the lobby, keeping people out “THERE IS NO FIRE HERE. WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE.”
So we see that every component of the Executive and Legislative Branch, regardless of Party has utterly failed the American People.
We are in financial meltdown from overspending and criminal abuse of credit. The Congress is an identity theif of 300 Million People and has been on one long distance call to the most expensive phone number they could find using our credit card.
The new Progressives act like nothing is wrong and want to spend twice as much.. and the Republicans have destroyed their crediblity by their giving lip service to being conservative while acting in all ways opposite.
Who is going to be brave enough to file Chapter 11.
Who is going to be brave enough to tell the people of this country the danger we are in from our enemies
Who is going to be brave enough to go to Russia and do something to calm them down.
Who is goign to be brave enough to tell the people that the people need to wake up and pay attention to their country. And that they need to learn about this country and why it was founded and what it was founded on.
Who is going to be brave enough to declare that we have a choice to make
… will the US continue to be a land of Liberty
… or will the US descend into the failure of “Progressive” collectivism
and who will fight to defend it.
Brilliant discourse and so true, Patrick! I am touched!
Wow….that was amazing….best commment ever!
May I have permission to reprint on my blog?
Obama is trying to hold New Jersey! Geez, he may only be able to count on Illinois and TUCC.
But that’s what an empty campaign of condescension will do to you. The little people woke up, and don’t like what they see.
How’d that work out for you Barry? Donna? Telling Hillary voters to just get over it. Stay at home. You don’t need us. Calling us Racist and Bigots day after day. Along with all the other wonderful names you choose for us. What was that you said again Barry? Oh that’s right! “You could get her voters, the question is could she get your’s.” How’s that they’re just a handful of PUMA thing working out for you? How’s that working out for you Dean? Saying that the Republican Party is the party of White People? And just how is that working out for those of you in the MSM, attacking an innocent infant? A teenage mother? Working mothers? Single fathers? Unwed mothers? People’s religious values? Let’s take a look at that map again….Oh my! I’d say not very good and it’s going to get worse.
Are you rubbing it in? Shame on you!
Remember when the obots called PUMAs dead-enders? Well, who is looking like the dead-enders now?
They’re panicking in DC. All the Dems Obama’s boys intimidated to jump into the tank. They’re panicking – because guess what? Obama’s going to take them all down. Hey this McGovern thing was big in its day? I predict that’s nothing like what we’ll see this time: the total destruction of the Democratic Party. And I shall not shed a single tear!
zelda — we warned them. We called the DNC and a bored voice answered with The Democratic Party does not take sides. We called the Super Delegates to beg them to vote their conscience and win in 08. They were not interested. Now almost exactly 3 months later they are in a panic. THEY WERE WARNED
The conservative dems have already left the party. It’s just showing in the numbers. I don’t think the moderate dems are far behind. The republicans ran a candidate that appeals to every body. The dems ran a candidate who only appeals to 1/3 of the population.
I’m a LIBERAL Dem and I’ve already left. Though, with liberals acting like crazy people this year, I guess I’m now calling myself a moderate.
Diana,
Thank you for saying what I wanted to say.
How’s that working out, indeed?
And not one of them, not Dean, Pelosi, Reid Kennedy, Kerry, has stepped forward with great humility and apologized. Hey, they haven’t even attempted a fake apology.
These people and their rabid supporters who insulted Hillary and her supporters, even threatened them, are slime.
Donna Brazile sitting at the CNN desk with her beligerent attitude as she helped to steal votes for 0bama and had the audacity to tell loyal Democrats STAY HOME! And Roland Martin with his smug smile and homophobic beliefs force feeding a man whose own sexuality is dubious at best. Did they think people wouldn’t notice there were no past girlfriends? Did they think they could fake this mysterious white girlfriend with no name? No friends and a clearly bitter, hateful attitude toward his late mother. What kind of man doesn’t make it to his mother’s deathbed and then says something as offhanded as: “I didn’t realize she was that sick.” Huh??? No remorse… Trust me, that’s not how average black people feel about their mothers. But I guess it’s okay because she was white.
I despise these people. As they try to claim moral superiority over Republicans. Based on what? Lies, cheating, race-baiting, sexism, thuggery?
No Democrats will not get my vote. And as long as they pretend to not understand why, they can go to hell.
Mimi
Thanks! Your feelings here are shared by many of us….Obama’s dubious past and actual resentment of whites was documented in his book: “I had a seething resentment of my mother’s race….”
Sarah was right in her speech…He uses his candidacy as “path to self-discovery”!
I get to vote in the 9/16 MA primary to boot jfk from the Senate, O’Reilly has ramped up his insurgent campaign as of late.
Can it happen?
Possible, but doubtful.
If O’Reilly loses the primary, it will be my last vote for a democrat until the party is purged.
More important, can MA, old reliable blue MA, go red?
Not realistic, but stranger things have happened.
Don’t give up on the party. We can survive what I think is the worst thing that has happend since 1968 and that also took place in Chicago.
If Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, and company are not shown the door the day after the election, if Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are not removed from the leadership prior to the new Congress, I for one AM giving up on the party after 35 years. Enough is enough.
yep
I really like the idea of a centrist progressive party modeled on social responsibility and sound economic policy.
There is a historic opportunity to take from the tattered remnants of the democratic party the core ideals, and build something new and better. Every 4 years, except for 1992 and 1996, the DNC trots out the tired old liberal sameness, and it has cost them and us dearly.
That may be in the future, but until then I cannot vote for Kerry, Kennedy (doubt he’ll be around for another election) or Frank. I can’t stomach them and the only power I have is my vote.
Agreed.
Jesus was not a community organizer. Jesus was a teacher. Pontius Pilate was a governor, yes. But remember Pilate could not make a decision to sentence Jesus and so he allowed the community organizers and activist to crucify Jesus.
Pilate is more like Obama because Obama voted PRESENT 130 times and could not make a decision in the Illinois senate.
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Anyone knows what all States have early voting for the general election next week?
that is right about Pilate, he did not want to crucify Jesus. In some teachings he secretly ordered Jesus taken off the cross after 3 days still alive but thought to be dead to his enemies. Put in the tomb to heal from the wounds.
most telling about this map is that its the first time I’ve seen where there are more “solid” GOP electoral college votes than solid Dem votes.
I’m in Ohio and anyone who thinks Obama can carry Ohio is crazy. I believe this election will be an electoral landslide. Remember – the main shots on Obama haven’t even been fired yet.
That’s so very true!
The pockets of heavy DNC support will vote BO and the rest of the state will vote McCain/Palin. The Democrats better worry about their own seats. I am seriously thinking about re-evalauating ALL of them when their time comes due.
I’m thinking the only part of Ohio that will be heavy with DNC support will be Cleveland. Heading south it will go McCain. My thoughts anyway.
Totally.On.Target.
Dems should’ve put together a ticket(meaning BO would drop out after New Hampshire and Hillary would pick him as her VP). The superdelegates should be done away with. Hillary had more votes and they gave the nom to BO. They were created to keep a flawed candidate like him in check.
Well this is the time for the Democratic Primary System to be revised. Both parties need to embrace the GOP model where winner takes all, it replicates the GE and is a no brainer to use as the most reliable guide to who is the strongest candidate, where. No more caucuses, and no more shared delegates. Compact the Primaries into as short a season as possible, and NEVER AGAIN allow the party or the Media to apply pressure on any of the candidates to drop out early. We need to impress upon our party that we will not back down on this issue, and if not corrected immediately post election 2008, then we will be forming our own organized third party with the full intention of a nomination and convention based on our proposed revisions.
Also we need to start the day after the Inauguration to finally put out Federal Money to once and for all correct the voting machine problem in every state, every county, every district. One system, with a twofold backup (Machine/paper) and every citizen should have a receipt of their vote in some form.
We are the future of American politics, the PUMAs and the Independents, and we need to seize the momentum as soon as possible, starting Nov. 5th.
Sorry for the double post, but one more thing, we need to put the Media, in all its forms, on notice. Effective immediately. I am boycotting all of the biased forms I have seen. I will no longer buy any Oprah magazines, or endorsed products, Rolling Stone magazine is off limits in our house, Time, Newsweek, the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, as well as the Recording Artists and Hollywood Celebreties. Anyone who was in the tank for Obama, dissed Hillary, or Sarah (if the basis was gender related) will not get my money.
I also read yesterday that Barbra Walters is trying to fire Elisabeth Hasselbeck from The View because she considers her devisive because of her support of John McCain. This is wrong. Additionally, did anyone else see that Pam Anderson was interviewed this week and not only voiced her disdain of Sarah Palin, but she also said Sarah could “suck it”. I thought since Pam gained at least some of her notoriety doing this very thing, on film no less, with Tommy Lee, that she wouldn’t have the audacity to attempt to look down on this Lady in this vile way, but I guess she has never been concerned with being exploited by the Media, since she was usually seeking exploitation.
I saw that Pam Anderson thing and I wondered why anything that very ugly person had to say was news. Who cares what she thinks or says?
Liz
We need to have circulated a List with the magazines to boycot as well as stations, etc. Only concerted action….
liz — I agree with everything you say but none of this can be accomplished unless we take money out of the equation. Soros is willing to spend 1 Billion to get Obama elected. Good candidates don’t stand a chance as long as money talks. I want to see the parties get stronger and actually vet a candidate before allowing him to run under the party name. I want to see open conventions again. I don’t care if it takes 20 roll calls — the strongest candidate will emerge from the pack and we will know what we’re getting because this candidate will stand for the party’s platform.
We also need to make sure that the news media does news again and not propaganda to promote one candidate while destroying everyone else. Sean Hannity says 2008 is the year that journalism died. A strengthened FCC who actually forces news organizations to do news or lose their licenses is the best thing America can do for itself. 69% of Americans believe the media is in Obama’s pocket. When the media becomes a tool of propaganda — the nation is in big trouble.
Liz
THIRD PARTY IS BEST OPTION. ASK THE CANADIANS! WITHOUT 3RD PARTY, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEST UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IN THE WORLD SINCE 1965!
Hillary’s efforts and courage must be rewarded…a 3rd party of moderation and common sense that outlaws specifically MISOGYNY!
wonderwoman
Yes! Hillary asked Obama and officially offered him the V-P after N.H. and he laughted at this….
Would love to see NY go red, a nice shade of candy apple red, or fire engine red..
How about the crimson red of Michelle Obama’s LIPSTICK?
me too!
I found this story on againstobama.com It is an interview of Mark Penn by CBS News. Seems like Hillary’s camp is trying to warn the media to back off Palin
Penn was a charlatan, but at least he didn’t run to go work for BO right after the nom like others. He’s still loyal to her.
Can CA go red? Now that would be a game changer. Ask the Terminator.
I live in California and I never expected that McCain would be on the air here – but last night I saw 3 McCain ads on TV – 2 different stations. I told my family that something must be up – McCain must be seeing something in internal polling because these are the first and only of his ads I’ve seen here.
Now maybe it’s just McCain’s way of making barky spend a lot of money here – since he’s apparently having a little trouble raising it these days – but what if they’re seeing a real opening?
Wouldn’t that be somethin’ if California turned red?
It would be AWESOME. Remember, and I keep reminding people of this, who turned the state blue–Bill Clinton in 1992. It would be so much fun to be able to say “Bill turned my state blue, but Obama made it go red!” AH HA! Comeuppance for the b.s. that Barky spewed and let spew about my Bill.
I think it has more of a chance of going red than people think. Check out the map of the primary. You could tell where the centrists/conservatives were (Clintonites) versus the Obamatrons. Hell, even L.A. county didn’t go for Obama…Clinton won L.A. county. There are a lot more conservatives in this state than the world gives it credit for only because we focus on the effing celebrities with their big mouths spewing stupid, ignorant things (like Matt Damon).
The South (San Diego) will go McCain. Outside of San Francisco and L.A. will go McCain. If Arnie steps up anything–and I sure hope he does–he could help bring the state to McCain. He’s already endorsed McCain.
John you are so right. I live east of the CA mountain ranges which will go solidly for McCain. You are very correct about SD County—it almost always goes Republican and despite its very inept R congress people (remember Cunningham). In the replacement election for Cunningham I thought the Dem just might break the code and get elected but the Repubs pulled it off. Orange County will go McCain (big population). SF will almost certainly go Obama. Riverside and San Bernadino, probably Obama. LA???? The Dems to watch in this are Villaragosa (LA)and Baca(SB) The Hispanic vote in CA is a game changer and McCain has some creds with that population. Not to mention the political tension in that LA, SB, RS triangle between Hispanics and AA’s.
I am waiting for Palin to come through CA, meet with Arnie, meet Nancy R and hit the spaces where McCain can come through. The big issue that McCain Palin will have to struggle with is off-shore drilling. That is a huge hands off to CA. But CA is hugely effected by gasoline prices (I am paying $5 + now). It has big alternative potential in solar, wind, tidal energy and natural gas. A big opening would be Palin’s success in negotiating a good contract for the exploitation of CA natural resources like she did in AK. That could actually solve all of CA’s budget problems.
I am from Riverside, Ca. – huge evangelical Christian population – certainly with the McCain/Palin team.
The Dems in the House just pushed through a bill to allow offshore drilling on all coasts including California…Dems no longer have the high ground on that.
I’m in LA…most everyone I know is voting Obama (sigh) and I have yet to see a McCain sticker anywhere…but I will say that I have seen fewer Obama signs than anticipated. You’ll see a few Obama bumperstickers here and there, but not everywhere.
And just because stickers aren’t showing up for McCain doesn’t mean people don’t support him. I am not putting a sticker on my car because I don’t want some crazy white liberal to slash my tires. (I actually think blacks are more respectful about this…it’s the young white activists who scare me.)
i hope so
one vote here. downticket 2
Feminist blog:
Obama interview:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5000184
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to win?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-with-abc-news/
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
-Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
Posted by: oy at September 13, 2008 07:08 AM (IHRfl)
wow…wonder who got the hard questions??
Two words. Double standard.
You can just tell by the softball questions that they gave “the little woman” a break. Poor Soetoro/Obama, having to answer a “how does it feel to win” when everyone knew the roll call of delegates was a fixed race.
And did anyone notice that interviewer Gibson seemed to be reading verbatim off that piece of paper which is why Governor Palen asking for clarification of the “Bush Doctrine” (obviously a newly minted phrase created to try to throw her off) seemed to confuse him.
Charles Krauthammer coined “the Bush Doctrine,” and he wrote an excellent article on how Charlie Gibson screwed it up himself.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/charlie_gibsons_gaffe.html
Great article. It informed me. I actually thought Gibson’s reference was close to correct. I hope Krauthammer’s explanation gets wide coverage.
Obama may lose WA andf NJ!!!!!!! I wonder how his money machine is doing. Tehy keep pouring money into a losing effort.
I got my first call yesterday from BO campaign asking to donate. I was not nasty as I’m sure most of you would want. This was a kid calling and I did not want him to have a life changing experience with my warth. I did tell him I was only supporting the down ticket (lied my ass off, I will not give another penny to Dick Durbin) or anyone in IL and to put me on the do not call list.
I too can’t wait to see the August numbers, I heard they were around $55M, but that’s only for BO, what about the party? Talk about another “bonehead move.” He went back on his pledge on public financing and recently on 527’s. He forbid the party from taking PAC money, so they are running around for money looking to meet payroll. This is so sad. What happend to the 50-state stragy? What happened to turning red into blue.” Since “The One” could not pull this out, maybe he can turn my water into wine.
Don’t be surprised if Jersey goes to McCain…remember, Florio only attempted to balanca the budget with some tax increases and Christie Whitman was in for the next 8 years….
And Corzine isn’t really popular at all from what I read….
this is an example of polls and stats being skewed or not complete. I have lived in Indiana my entire life. We haven’t went Dem for President since 1964 and I guarantee you it won’t be this year either. Obama is the most liberal Senator in Congress. Add to that the Republicans have McCain a war hero and Sarah Palin a conservative, christian hockey mom…so move Indiana to their column because Obama is not going to win here.
Erosion of credibility Palin vs MSM smears – Earmarks. The media has no shame in its objective to smear Gov. Palin by accusing her of requesting 256 millions in earmarks for her state and labeling the state one of the most successful in obtaining earmarks. Here is a great example of smearing: This one is totally the height of shamelessness.
Jonathan Martin in Politico today says, “It’s earmark abuse that is the problem, suggests Palin.” Then my friends, look at the quote that supports his arguments, “Palin told Gibson that she “drastically reduced our earmark request since I came into office,” but when pushed on her states request for $3.2 billion for researching the genetics of harbor seals and the mating habits of crabs, the governor became defensive.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Its_earmark_abuse_that_is_the_problem_suggests_Palin.html
Notice the unabashed figure of 3.2 billion given on September 12.
But on Sept 10 they had this article in Ben Smith: “Palin, meanwhile, has requested $3.2 million to be spent in part researching the “genetics of harbor seals,” in one of the state’s many requests for federal funding of research into Alaska’s fauna.”
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4E2E5BFD-18FE-70B2-A815903CFF648F68
I undertook this little research, even when I do not like to do them because any little brain knows that 3.2 billion for research on seals is an aberration. But Jonathan Martin has not the decency to adhere to any ethical standard, preferring instead to help the crowd of smearing media disinformation.
Please notice that in Smith’s article, Alaska’s earmarks request amounts are tied to Sen. Stevens. “[A]laska has indeed been spectacularly successful in getting earmarks, largely through the efforts of its senior senator, Ted Stevens, who is now fighting corruption charges. (Stevens’ requests include far more than those listed by Palin.) And Palin’s office has actively backed some of its legislators’ requests….”
As you can see clearly, 1) Palin would not entertain for one second spending a minute with Stevens for the purpose of getting earmarks. 2) It is clear that her office actively backed some of its legislators’ requests, and not necessarily Stevens’.
In Smith’s column the earmarks mentioned pertain to grants given to the universities for funding their academic research programs. And most importantly, these are geared towards conservation and environmental studies. These request are routine activities of academic programs. True or false?
Why don’t they question Biden and Obama on their earmarks? How about McCain? Oh that’s right McCain hasn’t requested one earmark in 25 years. Not One. NADA, Zip. Now let’s look at Obama and Biden. They just keep getting more and more hypocritical.
Obama’s 1 million for the hospital his wife works at. Or what about those several million he requested to research Soybean disease? Oh and what about this?
From the Washington Post:
http://tinyurl.com/6qpmhe
How about Biden’s more than 330 million in earmarks: At least his compared to Obama’s have been for some very useful causes/reasons. Although, 330 million is extreme.
http://tinyurl.com/3lh2mw
I can’t provide the link but I believe that in Obama’s short US Senate career he has sought almost a billion $$$ in earmarks. I would really like to see the stats on this (from a reliable source).
I won’t read the politico. I am not sure who decided that they are an intelligent or worthy news outlet. Every time I went over there, the articles were full of boneheaded factual errors and obvious spin.
It’s like it became the refuge for folks dumber than Campbell Brown or something.
I’ve been keeping an eye on Washington and Oregon. I think that’s the canary in the coal mine. Republicans have been whining about “The Left Coast” for years. That’s because it’s a Dem stronghold that threatens them. But McCain was brilliant picking a VP from the Pacific Northwest. This is Palin territory. (Well, she cost the GOP the vegan vote,LOL, but other then that, people around here can relate to her.)
In Wa, Obama had a 17 point lead a few months ago. In some polls it’s now been reduced to 2 points. For this state to become a funny shade of purple would defy the laws of physics and history, but it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. Without a united “Left coast” he’s toast.
I spend a lot of time in NC. since my daughter lives there…there are a large numbers of evangelicals in that state, and not just in rural areas. Even so, that 20% surprised me!
Our local paper editoralized Thursday on the “community organizer vs the governor”, and wow, I was glad! Their readership extends into rural areas of VA.and I don’t think these down to earth people will be receptive to those comparisons!
Sassy, I live in NC. BO is just wasting his money here. Most people are subtle here, they go into the booth and vote republican all the time. The McCain yard signs are starting to come out.
[...] posted it in the Thank You thread below, but it also seems appropriate here, because the Erosion this thread speaks of is thanks in large part to you [...]
Go to
http://www.intrade.net/
and look at Realtime Electoral Vote Predictor
Obama 268 McCain/Palin 270
Looks like best toss up for Obama is Nevada where McCain/Palin have under 60%
Obama 44% McCain/Palin 59%
IMHO Obama simply can’t win even with Pennsylvania.
cheers PUMA
sure would be great to see washington pay obama back for his caucus fraud here.
the loudest got to be delegates.
I have truned my family and and working on my obama friends.
Here is some analysis from Gerard Baker in The Times in London, apparently some Europeans are incredulous that the dumb white trash in America could even consider not voting their favorite candidate:
“Thoughtful people cannot get their head around the idea that Mr Obama, exciting new pilot of change, supported by Joseph Biden, experienced navigator of the swamplands of Washington politics, could possibly be defeated . . . .
The essential problem coming to light is a profound disconnect between the Barack Obama of the candidate’s speeches, and the Barack Obama who has actually been in politics for the past decade or so.
Speechmaker Obama has built his campaign on the promise of reform, the need to change the culture of American political life, to take on the special interests that undermine government’s effectiveness and erode trust in the system itself,
Politician Obama rose through a Chicago machine that is notoriously the most corrupt in the country. As David Freddoso writes in a brilliantly cogent and measured book, The Case Against Barack Obama, the angel of deliverance from the old politics functioned like an old-time Democratic pol in Illinois. He refused repeatedly to side with those lonely voices that sought to challenge the old corrupt ways of the ruling party.
Speechmaker Obama talks about an era of bipartisanship, He speaks powerfully about the destructive politics of red and blue states.
Politician Obama has toed his party’s line more reliably than almost any other Democrat in US politics. He has a near-perfect record of voting with his side. He has the most solidly left-wing voting history in the Senate. His one act of bipartisanship, a transparency bill co-sponsored with a Republican senator, was backed by everybody on both sides of the aisle. He has never challenged his party’s line on any issue of substance.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4735295.ece
Is this the DNC’s idea of ‘change we can believe in?’ It must be, because it is definitely not change you can actually see.
Compare that record to McCain and Palin in their respective political careers.
BTW: Today is Divident Day in Alaska. How would you like to be getting a dividend check from your state government for almost $4000?
I read that article and loved it. It sure beat the NYT.
Democrat Barack Obama’s once double-digit lead in Washington state is no more, according to this latest SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for KING-TV Seattle and KATU-TV Portland Oregon. In an election today, eight weeks till votes are counted, it’s Obama 49%, McCain 45%.
update
Obama/Biden 217
157 Solid 60 Leaning
McCain/Palin 227
172 Solid 55 Leaning
Toss Up 94
94 Toss Up
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McCain’s gains in Washington state are encouraging. If Obama travles to Washington state in the coming weeks, there’s a good chance that Washington state will go for McCain-Palin.
And why shouldn’t they? I think people in washington appreciate McCain-palin for their straight talk. They trust them. More and more people do not trust Obama.
Obama is a radical. He could care less about the women in Washington satte. Obama just wants the votes of women as long as they do what he tells them to do.
Obama is a control freak. He’s absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin.
I hope the good folks in Washington state will stand up and fight and tell Obama to shove it with their votes!
Obama belongs in Chicago with his band of criminals.
On Election Day, Americans will make sure he stays in Chicago.
Please don’t send him back here to Chicago. We have enough problems, highest sales taxes in the country, highest murder rate in the country most corruption in a local administration (Daley). Oh, I forget, he was part of the problems, never mind. We are so sorry to have put him on a national stage.
WE WILL NOT ACCEPT YER APLOGY UNTIL HE IS DEFEATED.
D:
DAMN YOU ALL FOR PUTTING HIM ON THE NATIONAL STAGE.
LOL
If Obama fails we have more arrows in our sling (?)
We have Rod Blogovich
and Rahm Emanneuel
And I hear Dick Durban might like to rule the country
And we have Jesse Jackson Jr
We will not be done until we control the nation just as we control northeast Illinois
- Your friendly local Cook County Democratic Party Machine
I, for one, will do my part to make the Dems who endorsed him over Hillary pay. I have my list and I am going to use it.
Just make sure he loses when he runs for Re-election in 2 years. Obama has only been involved in 1 honest election in his life, where people weren’t slimed out of the race or removed from the ballot. It was a Primary for Congress from a Chicago District and he lost 2 to 1
Can’t you get all these guys in one room and light a match, or something? Seriously, I feel for you OBSP, you are a strong person.
“Please don’t send him back here to Chicago… Oh, I forget, he was part of the problems, never mind. We are so sorry to have put him on a national stage.”
DAMN YOU!
All the foot soldiers who are out promoting the local candidates look at the Hillary sign I still have up, and I tell them I am mad at the Dems over that. They tell me, to a person, “yeah, I hear that a lot.”
I think, barring Cook County voter fraud, it might be a lot closer for Barky here than he would like to admit. Honestly, I think the Palin nomination might spur a lot of fence-sitters to come out and vote against him. He has done so little for this state. He has nothing as a signature legislative accomplishment. Even the things he touts (health care for kids) are trumped up and not really what he says they are.
McCain’s gains in Washington state are encouraging. If Obama travles to Washington state in the coming weeks, there’s a good chance that Washington state will go for McCain-Palin.
And why shouldn’t they? I think people in Washington state appreciate McCain-Palin for their straight talk. They trust them. More and more people do not trust Obama.
Obama is a radical. He could care less about the women in Washington satte. Obama just wants the votes of women as long as they do what he tells them to do.
Obama is a control freak. He’s absolutely obsessed with Sarah Palin.
I hope the good folks in Washington state will stand up and fight and tell Obama to shove it with their votes!
Obama belongs in Chicago with his band of criminals.
On Election Day, Americans will make sure he stays in Chicago.
The latest poll out of Michigan according to real clear politics has McCain up by 1 in Michigan.
It looks like Michigan will be a real battleground state this year ….
Since the 12th of September, McCain, who was behind Obama for months on end, moved ahead to a 270 – 268 lead at http://electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Sep12.html.
Today’s polls did not change the picture. McCain loses a point in Oklahoma (64%), remains 5 points ahead in Missouri, wins a point in New Jersey (only 5 behind), wins a point in Ohio (2 ahead) and remains just 4 points behind in Washington (they put together Rasmussen, Elway and SurveyUSA).
I personally like the development in New Mexico where McCain turned a 41-50 into a 49-47, so from 9 behind to 2 ahead. Hope the numbers hold and that McCain can make headways into the Great Lakes States Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
It is amazing to watch. The zeromama people will tell you that HRC had no plan after Super Tuesday. It is clear that the Zeromama camaign expected a huge bounce from their convention, muffed the Ode to a Grecian Formula, had not one clue that Sarah Palin was under consideration and still haven’t got a clue as to how to recover. They have wasted more than two weeks, a ton of money and committed one gaffe after another. People who weren’t paying attention are watching now. What they are seeing is no cohesive message from the zeromama campaign and on message from McCain/Palin.
Axelfraud never ran a national campaign before the primaries. Rove, Schmidt and Davis have done this a few times and know what they’re doing.
I will be voting for a Democratic president in 2012 so it pains me to repeat what I had been saying ever since Larry started this website: B.O.W.L.* Big Time in November!
*Barack Obama Will Lose
Zerobama’s support is eroding in Minnesota as well.
The latest Survey USA (a very good pollster) poll has Obama up only 49-47.
http://kstp.com/article/stories/S578323.shtml?cat=1
A recent CNN/Time poll had Barry up 12.
thank you for the poll. i guess MN will also be competitive.
Delayed response on Gibson’s interview and dissemination of misinformation. All of these reporters and pundits want to give the public the impression that Governors like Palin are elected to exercise their authority as DICTATORS. That they can just exercise their beliefs and objectives as dictators and in one swipe of the pen delete all the earmarks presented to them by those representing their constituency. Governors have to also act as agents of democratic institutions where the people’s needs and request are honored.
It only convinces me that only journalism graduates should do the news and a minor in history wouldn’t hurt. And I’ve always thought both journalists who cover the government and politicians should have to pass a Constitution proficiency test because if we can demand it for our children’s teachers, we should demand it for the politicians responsible for our children’s lives.
And the “Jesus as community organizer” statement is a ludricous comparison to Soetoro/Obama’s community service that any Christian should resent. Jesus disagreed with his religious community and began his own “church” and therefore more closely resembles Martin Luther, Quakers, the Amish or Mormons than Soetoro/Obama’s inner city organizing to benefit Rezko’s slum landlord business. And “governor” Pontius Pilot wasn’t autonomous but had to follow the dictates of Rome. Governor Palin is granted Constitutional authority to act autonomously for her state and is not subject to federal oversight as long as she upholds the Constitution her state agreed to abide by.
I don’t know what strategist thought that up, but he obviously has a low opinion of Obama supporters’ intellect and I’m not so sure it isn’t deserved the way they are bandying it around like pearls of wisdom to help us “common folk” see the Obamalight.
I think this guy nails it for me:
The monsters from the id that now control the Democrat Party have transformed that party into a mob of undead extras from The Dawn of the Dead. It’s an indecent and disgusting spectacle and I suspect there’s more than a few million long-time Democrats who are revolted by it. That certainly seems to be creeping into the polls. No matter the good it once did, the Democrats today present as sick and crazed political party that is so greedy and hungry for power that it will do anything, including selling its country down the drain, to get it back.
Regardless of the race of the Democrats’ selected nominee, Martin Luther King’s dream of judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin has been transformed into a tawdry thing; a dried husk in which they wrap their skeletal remains, a hollow phrase spewed by the ascendent race hustlers of the party and lapped up by their acolytes.
Until 2004, with the exception of Guiliani’s second term as mayor, I voted the Democrat ticket in every election since 1967. In 2004, offered the Insane Clown Posse of John Kerry and John Edwards, I voted for George Bush. The spectacle of the last four years of various Democrats reaching for the gold ring did not inspire me to change my view. Only the dead enjoy parties in a crypt. Not even Roman columns improve the Charnal house atmosphere that fumes through the party today.
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/goodbye_to_all_1.php
It’s weird. Republicans have been acting this way for YEARS, and they called them political geniuses for it.
“In 2004, offered the Insane Clown Posse of John Kerry and John Edwards, I voted for George Bush.”
Sorry doc99, but any guy who says this is an idiot. (Although I do agree with some of his other points.) Gore would have made an excellent if not great President. Likewise for Kerry-Edwards and Edwards as Prez–minus the sex scandal.
Look at what Bush has done to this country:
1. From Clinton’s record surpluses to record deficits.
2. $4.5 TRILLION national debt to almost $10 TRILLION.
3. America hated all over the world, and just two years after 911.
4. Bush and GOP eliminated Clinton’s 100,000 cops program.
5. $1/gal gas to $4/gal.
6. Six to seven fold increase in health insurance premiums for many.
7. Enron, Mortgage collapse, etc.
8. Iraq quagmire which will utlimately cost at least $2 TRILLION. The Chinese and Saudis, among others, are now paying for our optional (imperialistic) war for oil in Iraq.
9. Katrina
10. Millions of middle class sink back into poverty.
11. Real decline in wages.
12. Outsourcing: Millions of good manufacturing jobs going to China.
13. Outsourcing: 10’s of thousands of high tech and accounting jobs sent over to India.
14. Insourcing: Millions of H1-B visas given out to Indians, Asians, Eastern Europeans, Nigerians, etc., to displace the currently TWO MILLION out of work high tech, white collar, college educated workers. These workers are mostly middle aged workers who are beginning to have health problems, which is normal. High tech, college educated immigrants are paid tens of thousands of dollars less.
15. Insourcing: Millions of illegals displacing Americans (incuding whites and especially blacks and native born hispanics) in construction, agricultural, and service jobs.
There’s a lot more.
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LOL. Gore, Kerry, Edwards would have all ruled from the middle, i.e. as a Bill Clinton “New Democrat”.
Hillary would too of course, despite her liberal leanings, which are no different than that of Gore, Kerry or Edwards.
At the beginning of this election season, my sentimental favorite was Hillary. But my pragmatic favorite was Edwards–minus the sex scandal of course. And my fanciful favorite was Obama–minus the incessant race-baiting, gender-baiting, and character assassination, grotesque resume padding, messianic self-glorification (or rather, constant narcissistic self-fellatio), etc.
That is, I thought Edwards was the strongest–most pragmatic pathway back into the White House.
It’s abundantly clear now that Hillary was always the strongest candidate in this year of the anti-white male (anti-Bush-Cheney, anti- gold ol’ boy) and anti-GOP brand sentiments.
Bewolf
I agree with you 100%! Bush was is and will be a disaster. Hopefully, the nightmare will end November….The world does not respect American since Bush and I am afraid McCain’s warmongering stance with Russia is not a healthy way to heal the wounds caused by Bush. That’s my only hesitation with McCain. Bush thank to Condi Rice’s Russian speaking talents adn thoughtfulness actually was doing well with Russia. McCain does not undersand Russia within context of Nato and may have started the Georgia fiasco to get Nato’s umbrella a bit wider when, in fact, that’s a sphere outside immediate U>S> hegemony. Very dangerous situation that may bring back a Cold WAr…This may be McCain’s only Achiless’ heel. He does not understand tBeware the curent situation needs moe diplomacy and less ammo! REmember what Eisenhower said when JFK got elected?
“Beware the growing dangers of the Military-Industrial empire within government.” While worrying about earmarks, millions of dollars, in fact the billions are spent to ammo. firms run by GE and MSNBC and almost all media are run by GE. And Haliburton is controlled by it. And Bush’s family profited immensely from Haliburton as of course will whoever has the key to the White House! It’s a dirty game. The dirtiest is by George Soros’ protege, Barry Soetoro, of course!
So, only hope is to have a THIRD PARTY option….
Moderate Hillary voters together with republican middle of the road voters with lost of common sense and a profound understanding of Foreign affairs and how other countries are thinking and understaning their cultures. Women in Palestine and Israel have formed a Cooperative sort of party. But who listens to them? Not many!….
Truthteller:
RCP has just changed the Electoral Map (with toss ups). Indiana is now “tilting Rep.” to McCain has 227 to Obama 217.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
It’ll come down to Ohio and Michigan (imho).
thank you for the update. are there new polls for indiana?
Not really; I don’t know why they had it as toos up before and just changed it to leaning Rep. The last
poll seems to be from Aug 30th according to RCP.
I don’t know what the cut-off is for “toss up” vs “leaning”
I believe it is 5 points.
Thanks TT.
The average RCP in Indiana is McCain +4.7
but the last polls are from late August and have him up by smaller margins (they are very small samples).
SO I am not sure what’s going on; maybe something will come out later in the day for IN and they updated the map early; I am not sure.
For the latest polls and a running tally, go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com. Choose polls, then latest polls.
Map is old. This AM Indiana moved to McCain/Palin leaning. 227 now to 217. 94 tossup
PUMAs, take nothing for granted.
We must keep working our “asses” off. Pardon the pun.
McPalin08
Clinton12
That is right. But at least we know now that we have the momentum.
The NYT is screaming about negative ads from McCain, barely mentioning the negative ads from Obama.
Negative ads work, so long as they are intelligent and accurate.
That’s why Obama’s “email” ad was such a disaster.
The MSM has its marching orders from the Obama camp:
convey the message that “McCain is dishonorable and is running a campaign without integrity“. I heard 5 reporters on different shows saying just that. Coincidence? I do not think so. The printed media is obliging as well. Expect more during the weekend. The bottom line here is to attempt to strip “honor” from McCain….
It’s really sad….
Charlie Gibson’s Gaffe
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html?nav=hcmodule
People like Gibson and the MSM do not understand how little respect the public has for them.
Gibson and the other MSM reporters view themselves as all knowing, while the public views them as the Country idiots.
The “Still” ad debacle will give McCain and the RNC the freedom to go even MORE negative on Barry (i.e., tell the truth about him).
If Obama tries to take umbrage, all McCain’s people have to do is say, “Excuse me, you run an ad mocking the injuries a war hero received as a POW and you are whining about “negative” campaigining.”
I think Sarah Palin should be the point person in responding to this horrendous insult to not only John McCain, but all veterans, elderly Americans and disabled Americans.
The media would be forced to listen if she delivers the response.
Today Republicans have something to be proud of: John McCain and Sarah Palin. John McCain has demonstrated leadership. Nothing is won yet, but the games have surely begun and McCain has shown us his grit and game face. Anything can still happen and I think a fatal mistake is to loose the sight of the prize and more importantly the enemy. Obama may be bleeding right now, but that is more the reason to be aware of him. We PUMAs know how deadly he can be when wounded. And unlike Obama, I do not want to underestimate my enemy.
One ardent Obama supporter is already trying to pin the blame on Senator Clinton:
“It’s not just that Clinton continued to battle for the nomination beyond the point at which her winning became impossible and the major political damage to the Illinois senator became inevitable . . .
It’s now obvious that Palin has left Obama badly rattled and his campaign flailing. It must stick in the craw of a man brought up by a single mother, who married a strong woman and adores his two daughters but he stands accused of being sexism not just once but twice.
The “lipstick on a pig” slip-up was no more intended to be sexist or demeaning than his ill-judged “likeable enough, Hillary” quip in the New Hampshire primary debate. But it illustrated once again the perils of a rookie on the national scene jousting with a female politician who has passionate supporters and is poised to make history.
It’s folly, of course, for Obama to be engaging with Palin. It diminishes him by equating him with the number two on the other ticket. And far from neutralizing the question mark over his experience, the discussion of her qualifications has ensured that his thin resume will remain front and center.
Obama should be giving Palin a good ignoring while his campaign hammers away at her record and McCain’s linkages to President George W. Bush – not his vetting process (a Beltway preoccupation of no relevance beyond whether it missed anything damaging) or her family.
Clinton has made clear she won’t be attacking Palin. And why should she? A McCain-Palin victory would make Clinton the Democratic front runner in 2012. It would vindicate everything she said about Obama during their primary battle.
Palin, and what picking her telegraphed about McCain, could be Obama’s nemesis. Hillary Clinton brought us Palin. The Alaska governor is her gift to Obama.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_is_hillarys_gift_to_obam.html
There’s a big surprise.
“likeable enough, Hillary”
Of course we all know what this really means: Shut the fuck up, BITCH!
As fall approaches, there is a faint “whiff” in the air of a McGovern moment. The MSM and Obama have picked it up and they are almost in a panic mode. This is not going to be pretty. The 527’s and the RNC has not even started on him yet. I am almost afraid that they will reduce him to the weeping wimp that he is and as I mentioned, it will not be a pretty sight. I expected Obama to lose all the south and border states, the normal red states, but to see some of the blue states starting to look a little purple is a surprise.
jessie britton — one thing that appears to be happening is that Obama is chasing the media now rather than the other way around. The more frightened he becomes the more he seeks out his media pals for their positive coverage. However, the media support which once meant something to his poll numbers now lies in stark contrast to the disgust with which the voters are beginning to view Obama.
Tonight in an effort to jump start his falling numbers he plans to appear on Saturday Night Live doing a parody of Palin with Tina Fey. This is disasterous and many top Democrats are telling Obama he must not do this. Will he listen?…….or will thousands more woman be McCain supporters by tomorrow.
CNN reported about an hour and a half ago that he had backed out of tonight’s SNL cameo citing the hurricane IKE situation. It’s hard to know the real reason why he’s backing out.
Add Pa to the leaning McCain column- here is a link to a poll conducted by JET TV in Erie- http://yourerie.com/content/poll/?poll_id=1191 (Poll- “who do you think will win PA in the presidential race?” McCain 46.4, the selectee 37.9, not sure 15.8)
As I am sure you all remember- the I-79 corridor from Erie to the WV line went heavily for Hillary in April. Looks to me like the bitter folks clinging to their guns and religion are going to soundly reject the selectee. Philly is not going to be enough to override the rest of the state.
A few reminders of how he really feels about us in the week before the election should be all it takes to turn PA red.
ACORN, Voter Fraud, and the Mortgage Meltdown
When they were busy telling Hillary its the delegates, its the delegates and she was telling them no its the map!!!
Donna Brizille and crew could not care less, Donna was busy sending off emails to voters telling us if you don’t like what I am saying or doing leave the party, oh well I wonder what Donna, Dean and others are saying now when they are looking at the MAP!!!!
They are talking about how much money they will make writing books, traveling on the speaking circle and working on future campaigns.
They care about making money.
Please can someone else go to
http://www.intrade.net/
and look at Realtime Electoral Vote Predictor
and
http://www.politico.com/convention/swingstate.html
Swing State Map
I can’t see any difference in both maps. Still politico site have
Obama 273 McCain/Palin 265
and intrade site
Obama 268 McCain/Palin 270
Is it me who is blind?
Bill Clinton has the gift that after people listen to him, they not only feel better about him, they feel better about themselves. When people are done listening to Obama,they come away filled with anger at somebody, anybody, and they never seem to be very happy. Their faces are all twisted in snarling anger.
Sane John:
That’s an interesting observation. I am shocked at how irrationally spiteful my own family members have become in defense of Obama when I share my positive thoughts about McCain/Palin. They are caught up in the campaign with a vehemence and fervor that doesn’t say much for Obama’s brand of positive change. I’ve always voted Democrat, but especially after McCain’s convention speech, when he talked about putting the best people regardless of party affiliation in his administration, I’m ready for reform and positive change in Washington. Go purple!
The Consequences of Rejecting Hillary
Fred Barnes
Thu Sep 11, 2008
Washington (The Daily Standard) – IT’S WIDELY ACCEPTED now that Barack Obama would be better off if he’d picked Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate instead of Joe Biden. Obama had his reasons, particularly his discomfort with her as his actual vice president if he’s elected. Still, Obama sacrificed a stronger ticket by rejecting Clinton.
Absent Hillary, the contest between Obama-Biden and the Republican ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin is throwing the Democrats into disarray. The consequences of Obama’s veep decision appear mostly to favor McCain. And if Obama had picked Hillary? Here are a few of the differences.
No Palin. Okay, McCain might have picked her anyway. He was looking for a running mate who would help him shake up the campaign. And Palin has delivered spectacularly on that. But choosing her would have seemed far less of a game-changer had Obama picked Clinton. Palin would have been merely the second female running mate in 2008. And her appeal to those who had voted for Clinton in the primaries would have been reduced if not nullified altogether.
As a result, the prospects of the other potential game-changers McCain was considering–Democratic senator Joe Lieberman and pro-choice ex-Pennsylvania governor Tom Ridge–would surely have risen. And while it’s unknowable whether McCain would have picked Palin if Obama had gone with Clinton, selecting Palin would have been a lot less likely.
No Biden. He’s not an albatross, but he certainly hasn’t given Obama a boost. He has brought no balance to the ticket, not in regard to class, gender, ideology, or anything except longevity in Washington. Worse, unlike Palin, he’s generated no enthusiasm or excitement. Biden has little appeal to the working class voters, especially women, who swarmed to Clinton in the primaries. He lacks the populist streak that Clinton had fashioned for herself. Biden is simply a weaker running mate.
Party unity. Democrats have come together fairly well behind the Obama-Biden ticket–but not as well as they would have if Obama had chosen Clinton. We still hear from disgruntled Hillary backers. Reporters have discovered they’re easy to find at McCain-Palin rallies. Polls can’t tell us how many will ultimately vote for McCain and Palin. But a chunk of them will–perhaps a few million–which means that Democrats aren’t as unified as they might have been.
Ohio and Pennsylvania. Republicans figured these states, notably Pennsylvania, were all but goners if Clinton won the Democratic nomination. Even as veep, she’d have had a favorable impact. When she was passed over by Obama, Republicans jumped for joy. Ohio, which a Republican presidential candidate has to win, now leans McCain. Pennsylvania, which is crucial to a Democratic candidate’s chances, has become a ripe target of opportunity for McCain.
Arkansas. As a Southern state, Arkansas is inclined to vote Republican in presidential races unless there’s a compelling reason not to. One of those reasons: a Clinton on the Democratic ticket. Without Clinton, Arkansas moves into the leaning (strongly) McCain camp.
Vice presidential debate. This is a no-brainer. Who would be the easier opponent for Palin to face in the nationally televised debate on October 2? Clinton or Biden? The tough woman or Senator Windbag? Biden will have to be on his best behavior and treat Palin gingerly. Clinton wouldn’t have had to.
Republican women. Mark Penn, chief strategist in the Clinton campaign, once insisted that 25 percent of Republican women were ready to vote for her for president. Many crossed party lines and voted for her in the primaries. Many of those women might have voted for an Obama-Clinton ticket. But how many Republican women are going to reject Palin and vote for an Obama-Biden ticket? Mighty few.
Because of all the problems associated with the Clintons–husband Bill, her relatively high unfavorability in polls, Clinton fatigue–Hillary Clinton appeared to be the wrong running mate for Obama. I thought so. I was mistaken. As Clinton won primaries in big states and developed a populist appeal to downscale white voters, her political value soared. As it turns out, Obama needed her. McCain is lucky Obama missed his chance.
Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
The map was updated to
227 McCain
217 Oblahbla
They now place Indiana in McCain’s column.
The telegraph has another great article about how Obama is losing. It seems like the only good stories are in foreign newspapers.
Following are some statements:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2909844/Barack-Obama-under-fire-for-ignoring-advice-on-how-to-beat-John-McCain.html
The reason why the Obama campaign doesn’t know what it’s doing is that it only knows how to win through fraud and voter disenfranchisement. And they aren’t going to be able to game this election because all they know how to do is cheat in caucuses and remove opponents from the ballot through disqualification.
You are absolutely correct Hillary or Bust.
We just had our primary for our governor in Washington state and Christine Gregoire (D) who backed Obama at the last minute, and Dino Rossi (R) were neck and neck. They are both on the ticket for the Nov. election. Our state is pretty much split down the middle. The presidential primary we had after the caucus in February did not reflect what really happened in Washington State. The primary was 47% Hillary and 50% Obama.
I am one of those who voted for Hillary and was a delegate at our state convention. I can say first hand that those bots were crazy at our caucus and the delegate convention for our state. They even booed the speaker for Hillary.
I heard from a Hillary delegate attending a Washington State caucus meeting, the person starting the meeting asked everyone to stand to say the Pledge of Allegiance but Obama delegates booed so loudly that the Pledge of Allegiance could not be completed.
Is that correct?
Three reasons:The Clintons.
Hillary Clinton:Obama’s arrogance not to pick H Clinton as his running mate showed his lack of good judgment. I guess he is not John F Kennedy. The only comparison with JFK is he is young and inexperienced.
Hillary Clinton:David Axelrod specializes in winning against a Democratic opponent in a Primary. I guess Sen Clinton should really have been the Democratic presidential nominee. She knows how to win a Presidential election against the Republicans.
Bill Clinton: Obama cannot use racism anymore to play the role of the victim. The electorate saw how arrogant he really is and the racism charge is unfounded. Just to think of it, President Bill Clinton, the person who worked a lot for the betterment of the black people being branded a racist.
I also live in the battleground state and I will do my outmost, with the help of my friends and relatives to keep Obama out of the White House.
Let us work together to rid the Democratic party of Undemocratic leaders. The Democratic party is Clinton’s party not Obama’s, Dean’s, Kennedy’s or Pelosi’s party.
Can’t wait for 2012 but for now, McCain/Palin 08.
Very well-done post. Thanks for the up to date info.
I remember during the Democratic primary, Obama was boasting that Republican voters were whispering to him that they are they supporting him.
Where are they now?
Bottom line:
McCain is a hero who has served his country. The only reason a person will not vote for him is either he doesn’t know anything about Obama or he hates Bush and the Republican brand so much.
But then again McCain is not Bush.
From Victor Davis Hanson (who said during the primary season that Obama is the only democrat who could lose this election and that McCain is the only republican who could win):
“Unless Obama’s team can get a handle on this self-induced and paranoid madness, they risk turning a small, natural, and probably temporary 2-3 point bump—quite normal in such a tight see-saw race—into a permanent and insurmountable 5-6 point McCain lead, as the quiet swing voters shrug and say to themselves, “Hmmm, liked that Obama, but if he and his supporters panic and go wild and vicious like this, what in the world would they do when elected?”
Hate to be a broken record, but old pro Hil as VP at this fire would have had an extinguisher in hand (Bill manning the hose), not a Biden match and more Axelrod fuel.”
You can always learn the most about someone by watching how they act when things aren’t going well.
This is the first time that Barack Obama and his team have had to run from behind ever since the Iowa caucuses.
The way they’ve been acting in response to that speaks volumes.
I just checked the RCP map link (1:39 pm CDT), and it showed Indiana in the McCain/Palin column giving the GOP a lead over Obama/Biden.
WHO IS THIS GUY ANYWAY?
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McCain/Palin will take Cailifornia!
It’s so exciting to be an x – democratic puma voter watching “THE ONE” go down in defeat like we have never seen in politics before this cycle. Obama will make McGovern look like a winner.
Can’t wait for McCain/Palin to work wonders on our economy and health care needs.
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