TREASON!
By Eastan McNeal on September 15, 2008 at 9:41 AM in Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, Iraq, National Security, Qualifications
This is Treason!
WHILE Barack Obama has publicly campaigned for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq — in secret private discussions, Obama has tried to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
– “OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL,” NY Post, September 15, 2008
By asking Iraqi leaders to delay a withdrawal plan, Barack Obama hopes to make the GOP look bad so that he can get elected.
Never mind the consequences. Kill the kids, but get me my throne.
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Here’s how Obama, the national security neophyte with no military or foreign policy experience, tried to play the big boys’ game:
First you tell them on the phone: Don’t worry. I’m just as good as McCain.
On June 18, 2008 the Washington post published an editorial titled:
Mr. Zebari’s Message
Iraq’s foreign minister has a chat with Barack Obama.
SEN. BARACK OBAMA told Iraq’s foreign minister this week that he plans to visit the country between now and the presidential election. We think that’s a good thing.. because it will give Mr. Obama an opportunity to refresh his badly outdated plan for Iraq. To do that, the Democrat needs to listen more to dedicated Iraqi leaders like Hoshyar Zebari, the foreign minister..
Mr. Obama laid out his current strategy for Iraq in November 2006, shortly before announcing his candidacy for president. .. Nineteen months later, the situation in Iraq has changed dramatically, with violence down 75 percent from its peak and the Iraqi government and army in control of most of the country. But Mr. Obama has not altered his position: He still proposes withdrawing most U.S. troops according to a fixed timetable..
Earlier, in June, Obama called Zebari:
Mr. Zebari said he told Mr. Obama that “Iraq is not an island.” In other words, an American withdrawal that destabilized the country would also roil the region around it and embolden U.S. adversaries such as al-Qaeda and Iran. “We have a deadly enemy,” Mr. Zebari said. “When he sees that you commit yourself to a certain timetable, he will use this to increase pressure and attacks, to make it look as though he is forcing you out. We have many actors who would love to take advantage of that opportunity.” Mr. Zebari says he believes U.S. forces can and should be drawn down. His point is that reductions should be made gradually, as the Iraqi army becomes stronger.
The foreign minister said “my message” to Mr. Obama “was very clear. . . . Really, we are making progress. I hope any actions you will take will not endanger this progress.” He said he was reassured by the candidate’s response, which caused him to think that Mr. Obama might not differ all that much from Mr. McCain. Mr. Zebari said that in addition to promising a visit, Mr. Obama said that “if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field.” Certainly, it makes sense to consult with those who, like Mr. Zebari, have put their lives on the line for an Iraq that would be a democratic U.S. ally. Mr. Obama ought to listen carefully to what they are saying.
Then, face to face and behind closed doors, you propose a totally different track.
Today, September 15, 2008, Amir Taheri writes in the New York Post
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
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“However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open.” Zebari says.
I am going to repeat one line above. “delay an agreement until after the US elections..”
Though it may be coached with the argument that a weak Bush administration should not be negotiating anything, it is not realistic to just shut down the country down until Obama becomes king. Yes, congress should have a say, but where have Peolsi and Reid been on that front? Perhaps they believe it is better to loose life and limb and destroy more lives in the U.S. and Iraq than to lose an election.
Other prominent Iraqi leaders, such as Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, believe that Sen. John McCain would show “a more realistic approach to Iraqi issues.”
Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn’t want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America.
Enough said. I remember the Democrats, working just with rumors that G.H.W. Bush met with Iranian leaders in Paris during the 1980 elections in order to work an agreement to keep the hostages until after the new administration takes office, screaming from the rooftops: TREASON!
But this is not a rumor. This is a quote from Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari. This happened.
Obama asked him to not proceed with a withdrawal plan, so that the GOP will look bad and that he can get elected.
Kill the kids and give me my throne.
TREASON!
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traitorous!
Fox News online has this:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/15/report-obama-tried-to-delay-withdrawal-agreement-of-us-troops/
Is it on any other MSM?
Holy fucking shit. GHWB all over again. In a GOOD world people like Obama would be kept behind bars. For LIFE.
I really hope there is a video or a voice taping of the incident. I wouldn’t put it past the Iraq government to record all conversations.
Talk about putting the pressure on someone.
Forget about the false allegations of Troopergate this is Iraqigate. I hope the general can support these alligations.
Well, of course it’s GHW Bush all over again. Obama has SAID that he would govern like Bush 1 and Reagan.
Oh, and Easton….rumors, my foot.
The #1 reason they were so eager to install Gee Dumbya in 2000 was that was the year his presidential records were to become public. Of course Bushie didn’t do so and then resealed them.
Does anyone know this is against the law, its called Logan’s act… she it on my blog, he is guilty!!
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
Congress established the Logan Act in 1799 making it a felony to interfere with the relations of the United States and foreign governments.
LOGAN ACT
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
IronMan–
The interference of a US Senator (without proper government authorization) in the foreign affairs of another nation appears to be treasonous under the Logan Act (and another one I’m looking for that is more recent).
Add to the recent “acting as if he were already president” in Iraq and giving ultimatums to their leader to the detriment of the US foreign policy to his actions in Kenya where he was boots on the ground and money in the pot to support his erstwhile “cousin” of Luo descent (like himself, Raila Odinga, in an attempt to overthrow (first through election then through near civil war) the Kikuyu President of that country who is a staunch US ally (see NY Sun Oct. 11, 2008 “The Kenya Connection”) is again treasonous under the language of the law listed above.
Someone have Sarah Palin research Obama/Odinga/Kenya. She has the “balls” to address this though no one else in the R party seems to do so.
Even GWB never palled with people who were murderous terrorists. It isn’t just Ayers–the list is at least 20 long of terrorists and convicted criminals who know, are closely affiliated with and support Obama’s rise.
I want to make sure that I understand this:
The man who claims superior judgment in 2002 when he gave a SPEECH opposing the war is now speaking out AGAINST BRINGING IT TO A SPEEDY CLOSE … is that right? He now wants it to continue in order to make the Republican party look BAD? Is that Hope and Change?
I went over to look at the FOX report on this. No one has left a comment. Seems to me we should all try to leave comments on this.
FOX does respond when it gets input from its viewers.
I left 2 comments, so apparently Fox isn’t letting anyone comment on this.
Actually, this usually means they are getting a lot and will moderate them (according to who knows what criteria). Expect a big pile in several hours, maybe as late as the evening.
Fox, without explanation, refuses to publish my comments lately. I never use profanity and always try (as I did in the comment made previously) try to give at least one primary source that anyone to which one can refer to corroborate what I say.
Anyone know how to get back on the good side of these folks.
He also violated the Logan Act by doing this if this is true.
So did Pelosi and look what happened to her… NADA.
You say, “TREASON!!”
I say, “so what’s new?”
It all started pretty much with the traitor from NM.
Traitor BIRDS of a FEATHER seem to STICK (UGLY) TOGETHER!!
btw Palin getting ready to speak at some rally
MSNBO is actually showing the rally (for the moment)
damn now it’s off again
How can I stream it live? Anyone know of a link??
I used to watch the rallies live on CNN but they’ve changed their viewing vehicle and I can’t upload it because it’s too damn big and I’m on an OLD puter.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/sarah-palin-rally-golden-colorado-watch-live-now
I did find it also at CNN live blog (had to upload the player and it TOOK, YAY)
Here is their link for future rallies (they do cover them all, thank goodness)
They’re playing HILLARY’S MUSIC!!!! HOW COOL!
What a great touch, great strategy.
How sad for Hil. I keep feeling like sending her flowers or something.
I had to d/l some kind of program. I use a Firefox browser. It was wmpfirefoxplugin
from Microsoft Corporation
Finally saw the SNL think. Fabulous stuff!
Do not watch MSNBC!
You can get a live stream from fox.
Everytime you watch NBC, MSNBC, CNN etc you are putting money into Obama’s campaign.
They used to say that about FOX back when I was a DEM
had I done that I would have NEVER started realizing that Hannity could be fair & O’Reilly actually can be funny even though he’s obviously unbalanced! hehe!
I don’t stay at msnbo or cnn LONG trust me but I realize now I need to hear all sides in order to be better able to debate their issues. No matter how insane they sometimes seem. (that for me goes for BOTH parties)
Sarah’s rally was wonderful btw if you caught it.
you can get most of the news by subscribing to different youtube channels like paul villareal, etc.
when you watch CNN and MSNBC on youtube you’re increasing their Nielsen ratings.
we boycotted them and that’s how we got rid of Olberman and Matthews.
boycotting is the only method that works.
boycottoprah.com
i watched it until she got preempted by Yo Jivin’s speech.
she was EXCELLENT!
when you see it, you’ll agree
a man brought to us courtesy of George Soros… I used to think he was a good guy… turns out I was wrong
Organizations Funded Directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Organizations%20Funded%20Directly5.htm
WHAT??!??!??
What is “former”? She is still unrepentent, just like her husband Bill Ayers.
i feel the same way about soros, too…
i guess i had him wrong all along.
ditto
Second ditto.
Linda OKC
Thanks for your link. Here is some more info on GS.
The Soros Media “Empire” The Power of Philanthropy to Engineer Consent By Michael Barker
http://www.swans.com/library/art14/barker02.html
Well, it would have helped him politically to use the war to win an election (if he didn’t get caught)…
See this from September 10th:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/obama-blasts-bush-for-slow-withdrawal/2008/09/10/1220857581127.html
i had the same reaction and in fact went to huffpost and posted this story with a comment about obama being a traitor. and immediately came on here to see if it was posted. if this doesn’t undo his campaign, i don’t know what will.
congrats to reid, pelosi, kerry, kennedy, mccaskill and the other superdelegates.
The media bashed Kerry in 2004 for implying he’d spoken with foreign leaders and they preferred HIM over Bush.
In 2008, the media including C-Span, HYPED Obama’s World Tour and meetings with foreign leaders.
As Kerry said this year - WE MUST ELECT A BLACK MAN (to give the U.S. more influence over Muslim terrorists.)
{{rolls eyes}}
Kerry DID meet with foreign leaders. He met with North Vietnamese in Europe.
Whatever the Swiftboaters did to Kerry doesn’t matter a damn to me. That sonofabitch denigrated everyone who served during that period by lying UNDER OATH TO CONGRESS about war crimes he “allegedly” witnessed.
He claimed that gang rape was commonplace and that soldiers routinely murdered civilians. He lied. He can fuck himself. He supports Obama and hasn’t changed his radical left ideals one bit since.
Again, fuck him…
is there a video or tape recording of the interview with iraqi foreign minister where he states what obama told him? if so, it needs to go viral.
BREAKING!!!
FOX NEWS IS REPORTING THIS - AND OBAMA IS DENYING IT!
The crime in all of this is this IMPORTANT story will be burried because of Lehman Brothers Collapse.
Lehman BTW is a Major Contributor to the OBAMA war chest. Karma anyone???
Zebari just didn’t know “what Obama really meant.”
LOL - just another WORM, I suppose.
Yeah, like lipstick on a pig. People never know according to Oblahblah what he means. They need The One to clarify and unconfused them. As President Oblahblah will tell the Russians that they should not launch a pre-emptive strike against the U.S. because they really did not know what he really means by ‘attack.’ He really meant AM-Track.
That man is absolute scum!
His record is that he has done everything in his life for political gain only. He has not done anything for people who have elected him.
Obama cares about Obama and no one else. Anyone who really wants this guy president should go live on an island with him and let him rule there!
http://law.jrank.org/pages/8357/Logan-Act.html
This is very serious.
Every time BO says something contrary to America’s best interest, people raise the specter, he is violating the Logan Act. But absent additional incriminating information, I would imagine that merely expressing an opinion seemingly at odds with the best interest of the country, to a foreign agent does not constitute the violation envisioned by the Act. On the other hand, if the Iraqi government, through its foreign minister, Mr. Zabari, does more than reveal the sentiments of Mr. Obama regarding U.S. troop withdrawal, then you might have actionable conduct. That is, if you can produce evidence indicating BO actually requested that the Iraqis refrain from holding bona fide discussions with President Bush and other duly authorized officials concerning troop withdrawals; AND that he indicated his certain occupation of the White House in January 2009, thus representing himself to them as having authority to negotiate on American’s behalf, then, you should contact the U.S. Attorney and have him arrested.
But in all the years since 1799 no one’s been prosecuted with it.
I can think of two people who seriously need to be prosecuted under this law and made examples.
Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama
Unfortunately, due to Carter’s membership in the ex-Presidents club, neither Clinton nor Bush had the peaches to bring him up on charges.
I doubt anything will be done about Obama. I hope I am wrong.
yes it is, but Obama thinks he is above the law.
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
The trouble as I see it in this case is that it would end up being the eeevil Bushies prosecuting the Democratic champion. (and did I mention he’s black?) So there would be a big credibility fight–it’s the stuff of lasting legends and resentment. There would have to be some more evidence.
You also didn’t mention that he has a funny name and doesn’t look like all of the other presidents on our money.
Add Canada, Syria, Iran, Kenya, Mexico… that BOvine has “talked to”…while a candidate.
Any conversations with the countries on the “Europe 72 tour” that he talk to?
so has this hit politico.com?
i did see it on realclearpolitics.com
can we assume it’s making it into the MSM?
At last, someone says the right word: TREASON.
B. Hussein Obama is a TRAITOR to America.
It’s also a felony, an egregious violation of the Logan Act:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/obama-tried-to-stall-us-troop-withdrawal-logan-act-felony/
Is there anything we as citizens can do to legally call Obama on this??
Any lawyers out there with ideas?
contact Phillip J. Berg
http://www.obamacrimes.com
I can’t imagine Obama not being disqualified at the bare minimum for this. He is not in any positon to be negotiating anything to begin with. And then to ask the withdrawl be delayed. You can bet your ass Fox news will pick this up.
Biden will save him. That’s why he picked him over Hillary.
Yo Jivin’ to the rescue!
How is the Obamasphere spinning this one? The attacks on the NY Post’s Amir Taheri begin in 10, 9, 8 …
The Washington Post is also carrying this article I am waithing for the fallout in DC.
(^o^)
If the Wash. Post has it then it should be in the mainstream press, for about a minute at least. Obama’s Pillow Fluffer press may just be getting a whiff of smelling salt.
This is the beginning of the crack in the dam. McCain should take full advantage of this and list the Iraqi government displeasure with Biden’s “break Iraq up into 3 entities because they JUST CAN’T GET ALONG” strategy.
they’re gonna claim ‘bias’ due to the Post’s endorsement of McCain.
‘his word against theirs’ - mark my words.
You’re right, but it’s the Iraqi official who can confirm his own words, not the Post.
So, which media outlet will step up and interview him?
*crickets*
Can you imagine the feeding fenzy the press would be in if this story was about McCain?
Remember the NAFTA incident before the Ohio primary - publicly told the people in Ohio what they wanted to hear, while privately telling Canadian officials it was “campaign rhetoric”. Is there a pattern here?
Dead on!!
Obama this close to the presidency is an abomination to the United States.
It’s up to us to save America from an Obama Presidency. Media devoid of real journalists are complicit and willing, and the Obama Dems are Blind and have a mind controlling WORM stuck to their brain stem, obliterating all rational thought. No one will stop him if we don’t. This man is the closest thing to Hilter America has ever seen.
We should all be scared
Now the MSM will break a story that Palin broke Willows’ piggy bank to give a tip to the newspaper boy. She is a thief.
lol it’s about that hysterical with them
I Agree 105% How This Closet Nazi Got This Close To The White House Is A Lost Of American Rationality,I Mean This Person Has Been Caught With Terrorist Synthesizers And Accused Of Being A Muslim Which Is Enough For Me,And I’m Sorry To Any Other Muslims Who Detest Radical,& Extremism.
It Does Not Take Almost 10,000 American Lives Here And Abroad For Me To Distance Myself From This Radical Crowd.Hussein Obama Cannot Win The Presidency Without A Certain Amount Of Whites,& Latino’s It’s Clear About The AA Vote,At Least I Can Say That I Am One AA M That Seen Through Hussein When He First Open His Big LIEING ASS MOUTH.
(PUMAPACNC08)
This NAFTA incident with the Canadians is important to the present brouhaha regarding withdrawing American troops from Iraq in that it tends to establish a pattern of conduct with BO. That is, he has, in the past, indicated to a foreign government that he will adopt a particular policy when he is President; AND, polls indicate he will win both the nomination and the Presidency. (See my comment above.)
Nobody in the MSM with the exception of NY Post will report it, or if they do, it will be as the posted above commented: Obama will say that he was misunderstood, that Zebari wasn’t listening. :^(
Let’s see if the MSM will get its collective nose out of Palin’s pantyhose long enough to cover some serious news!
Shades of NAFTA.
I have no doubt that Obama will say, “That was not the Zebari I knew”
Just wait, it’s coming. I don’t know how many more people we can fit under this bus!
Why isn’t anyone doing anything about this??? Do we have to take up our hoes and pitchforks and recreate 1776 to do anything? WTF??????
Soon
Looks that way!
maybe - why do you think ‘they’ want our guns?
oh come on
that’s never been true
they just want more restrictions on hand guns
(some may want them all banned like some on the right want all abortions banned but NEITHER will ever be law because MOST Americans would RALLY against it)
Some day MOST Americans may come to some agreement on both. It’s as much a city life versus country life argument as well.
Someone like Sarah, I can COMPLETELY understand. Father a hunter, many siblings need to eat, living in Alaska, etc, makes total sense. (I saw the special on her it was very informative)
If Sarah was the way she is yet brought up in Manhattan I would think she was a radical! Same goes for her faith.
Her MOM left the Catholic Church and took the kids with them to AoG. (wonder why?) Just a thought but Sarah is a gorgeous brunette with brown eyes, yet her older sister and younger sister both are blondes with blue eyes? Why?
Did someone need some forgiving? AoG are great for that! NO disrespect. I was introduced to AoG as a kid (before I started “sinning” lol) so I have Sarah’s view of it (I feel)
It is a kind religion. It is NOT radical and oppressive or degrading like BLK LIB THEOLOGY.
If I had to choose (and I do) I choose the religion that I KNOW IS LOVING AND KIND and I choose a Gov over a Sen for VP and I choose a War Hero PoW over a Chicago Senator with a weak voting record and lots of heinous hater friends!
I have watched Sarah’s whole witness her accomplishments and half of the town she grew up in and half of her friends and “enemies” if you can call them that…. even the ones that don’t LIKE her really respect her to some degree
I’ve heard NO ONE WITNESS BARRY’s LIFE???
I’ve heard witness to John’s life
even Biden
who stands up for Barry the adolescent
Barry the teen ager?
Barry the young adult on the streets of S. Chicago?
who?
You want to be my President? Keep dreaming.
fair enough… that’s a debate for another day.
Obama’s pverty Bill which gives 845,000,000,000 to the UN also gives the UN the right to take our guns.
Fox has it up …Hot Air has a good piece on it
Did Obama try to scotch an Iraqi-US agreement on military forces?
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/did-obama-try-to-scotch-an-iraqi-us-agreement-on-military-forces/
If this is true, and I can’t believe it even from Obama, then I’m going to be ill. It’s like I’m watching a repeat of Bush. Putting politics before human lives. I’m going to hurl. What evil did these things spawn from?
Many of us have been saying that that while Obama has been portraying himself one way, he is actually Bush 3. Look at his campaign advisors, his financial contributors and his key votes supporting Bush.
Obama is a globalist and doesn’t care about anyone in this country, with the exception of the AA community. He comes from the Chicago Political Machine and knows all the dirty tricks and will use them.
McCain is not Bush 3, it’s Obama. He has bamboozled the left.
How exactly is it that Oblahblah cares about the AA community? I still haven’t seen one way.
When the 2000 Census showed more Hispanics and Asians were moving into Chicago but the number of African
Americans were declining, Obama made this statement to the Chicago Defender newspaper:
“While everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking African-American seats.”
Obama does not care about the AA community. That is why he attended Trinity United, to gain some street cred. He was raised by his liberal, white grandparents in Hawaii. He has no ties at all to the AA community.
Does he really care about the AA community except for their votes. Look at the inner city housing in Chicago.
If that is how he cares about AAs then if he gets to be president
Heaven Protect the Rest of Us!!!
Kinthenorthwest,
many african american voters agree with you:
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=24&id=60&Itemid=34
Read this blog-
“Black Agenda Report”
The Journal of African American Political Thought and Action
Many African Americans do not support Sen Obama-Read why.
Here’s a partial list of articles:
Wednesday, 06 August 2008 Obama Won’t Address Specific Black Concerns 3593
Wednesday, 30 July 2008 Freedom Rider: Obama Pardons Bush 2443
Wednesday, 30 July 2008 Imperialism With a Black Face 1807
Wednesday, 30 July 2008 His High Imperial Holiness Obama Does Berlin 1165
Wednesday, 30 July 2008 The Myth of Transcending Race 1090
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Obama (and Big Media) Turn Blind Eye to Israeli Apartheid 3152
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 John Kennedy, Barack Obama and the ‘Triple Evils That Are Interrelated’ 1462
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Barack Obama and the Abuse of Black Fathers 2011
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 Where Obamaism Seems to be Going 11139
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 Freedom Rider: Obama to Make World Safe for the Rich
“He has bamboozled the left.”
Yup - and that ain’t ‘right’…
Obama sure didn’t care much about his constituents on the South Side when he was an Illinois State Senator. If he did care, why did he help Tony Rezko get the low-income housing rehab contracts? Why didn’t Obama do anything to help his constituents living in the Rezko buildings when they had no heat?
Arrogance and self-interest!
Bush has not served others with a servant heart no has Obama
McCain has and I believe Sarah Palin has!
Let us unite to help them win on our behalf and then hold their feet to the fire.
HOLY CRAP - this reminds me so much of the Republicans working with Iran to have the hostages released the day Reagan was inaugurated, so HE got credit for a major event, one in which he had ZERO involvement (and some can argue, one of the reasons Carter was not re-elected). As I recall, this went before the Senate - governed by the Reps - and they said there was insufficient evidence to convict, but they were chastised.
Now THIS is happening. WHO in the gov’t will address this??? This is one of the situations in which PARTY does not matter. This is abt our COUNTRY, and treasonous actions.
This absolutely appalling. McCain camp should hit them up on this IMMEDIATELY
first reported on Drudge–don’t see how the MSM won’t report on this extremely serious issue as most of their lazy asses just scour Drudge to begin with–both Dems and Repubs for breaking news.
Isn’t it convenient that another financial crisis hits today forcing the public’s focus to the economy again. BoBo has come out bright and early this morning blaming the policies of Bush/McCain for the whole mess. The public(no offense to us all but…), being the headline readers only that they are, will not connect the dots to the Dem congress and Mr. Dodd’s banking committee, which he hardly tended to, as this was beginning to unfold. Isn’t that Barack’s committee too? didn’t he lay claim to it early in the primary? Well he needs to take the blaime too. You should have gone to the meetings and led the way Bambo. Oh wait, he never was on this committee was he? I get so confused by his real and fantasy work responsibility. This Iraq thing will probably get buried along with all the other legitimate awful things he’s been associated with.
Good article on Obama’s white woman problem., and how it applies to this sub prime mess he lays at Republicans feet.
http://amok.asianweek.com/2008/02/28/obamas-campaign-finance-chair-has-links-to-subprime-debacle/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/04/barack-obamas-finance-chairwoman-and-the-seized-superior-bank/
Obama will call Amir Taheri a racist.
Then he’ll claim that as the the first black candidate for president, he transcends US law.
Nah, he’ll blame it on a staffer.
Or…both.
So, if my child would have been in Iraq and was killed between now and the election, could I charge Obama with conspiracy to commit murder??????
My son is in Iraq and you can bet that if anything happens between now and when he gets home, I will be all over him. This man is totally sick and is a very dangerous man. I cannot believe that he has gotten away with this.
You bring me pause. I have a nephew serving right now. Oh, how can this happen?
Same here Ohio, we have 4 there. Again, I spit on Obama, traitorous bastard.
McKatmoon, I’ll keep yours in my prayers too. I actually just got off the phone from mine. I hadn’t heard from him in 3 weeks. It felt good, but I told him about this and he is pissed. However, he did say that they love Palin over there too. And they like McCain. He’s told me before that he and his buds didn’t trust Obama. This just proved it.
Its as we have always known, he cares about no one but Obama. The troops mean nothing, the AA mean nothing, the native americans mean nothing. The vets mean nothing, anyway no americans mean anything, unless he can fool them into his vote…
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/
this, from a bozo who said that he would have joined the military “if there was a war on”.
yeah, right… whatever.
Don’t we still hang traitors?
No. We nominate them for president.
Obama, through his surrogates have been acting as if Obama is “president elect” they have sent emmisaries to Hugo Chavez as well as Evo Morales telling them much the same thing ‘ when the obama administration is in office we will ligitimize FARC and marginalize Uribe(the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRES. OF COLUMBIA)This info was discovered on seized laptops from FARCs senior command. it is likely that Obama has been engaging in treasonous behavior on many international fronts. This merits investigation!
AMEN - this does merit investigation - but Barack Hussein Benedict Arnold Obama seems to be above the law. Somebody in authority had better wake up and smell the coffee. This guy is getting by with too much and it is very scary. Who is actually behind him? It’s obvious that he is too stupid himself to plan all the moves he has made. Somebody powerful is behind the scenes pulling the strings.
Quote of the day.
blog force one-
Thanks for this info.
Do you have links for more details.
A serious investigation is definetely called for here.
This is obscene. Is this his new version of a foreign policy?
lets not forget this
ACORN commits fraud in Michigan
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/acorn-commits-fraud-in-michigan/
He will break any law it does not matter to him. this is the Chicago way all….
The Chicago way indeed! Daley and his cadre of thugs are probably now in disarray over their minion upon which they planned to run the country, with, no doubt, having something on him. Little did they realize just how low this scum has slithered, and his serpentine trail now being uncovered.
Acorn responded that they give their workers intensive training and any mistakes were due to worker incomptenence, not blatant attempts to commit fraud. Lying sacks of shit they are. Is that why there are lawsuits in several other states against them? Is that how thousands and thousands of mistakes were made? Bullshit….
This is one of the main reasons tha I am really worried about the election. For some reason I have a feeling that if Obama does win there will be a ton of fraud conspiracies behind it.
We already have a few states that have voting machines that Do Not have the ability to do recounts.
I agree with you. We will have to have 4 to 5 times the number that Obama has to win. Because they have and will cheat.
IF this is true, and I am going to still qualify this “story” with a big “if,” it’s exactly like the October Surprise of 1980 when Reagan’s campaign delayed release of the Iran hostages until after the election, thus wrecking Jimmy Carter’s chances.
I am going to reserve judgment on this one.
Is it possible now for Hillary or Bill Clinton to stomp for Obama with these traitorous charges/allegations looming over him? How could they?
For the sake of the country, they should respectfully disengage.
Is this what happens when someone might have a dual citizenship?
They don’t have allegiance America?
Let’s hope the court moves on the lawsuit and makes a decision asap so we can save our country in time.
That is why Hamilton, Madison and Jay wrote to provide in the US Constitution the requirement that a POTUS be Natural Born.
In 2000, the Judiciary Committee of the 88th Congress held hearings to consider a Constitutional Ammendment allowing foriegn born citizens eligiblefor POTUS.
The Committee observed, among others, that Hamilton considered the President must rise from the soil of the States. ”
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju67306.000/hju67306_0.HTM
The Ammendment died in committee.
Hillary campaigned for him in Fla. yesterday and is in Ohio today. ’nuff said.
And looked like it was going to kill her to get through it. Good trooper she is, but the vacant eyes and stress on her face tells the story. She can’t stand Barack Obama.
Outrageous! So now we have Obama acting traitorously against the US for his own personal political gain, violating the Logan Act, and lying to the American people. Is this the New Democratic Party?!
Next:
1. What is the proof behind this?
2. Will the MSN pick this up? (Especially as it is in the NYPost and not the National Enquirer)
3. When did the media know about this and why did they not speak up?
4. Will McCain touch this?
I bet McCain will be all over this.
I would imagine that even if McCain doesn’t hammer this, the 527s will. Then the MSM will have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into covering it - albeit with their rosy pro-bama spin.
I don’t think it matters, though. The republicans will get it on the air - all over the air - because it puts the lie to everything barky has said.
But we know obama’s done it before - with the Canadians and NAFTA. Remember how the MSM protected bambi by inventing the lie that “Hillary did it too?” Expect the same from the corporate media this time.
With it being on the Drudge Report the whole world knows it now.
It is burried on the political page of FOX and it is on the Washington Post site.
Obama: “Deception is all [McCain] has left.” Funny in so many ways. First, Obama’s ‘charisma’ has faded with all his stuttering and hesitations. Second, he forgot that McCain has Palin.
McCain truly loves this country. As a lifelong Democrat and researching his background and voting record, I have absolutely no reservation making this statement.
There is no doubt that McCain will want verification about this issue before taking action.
And, if found true, McCain will be really, really pissed. After he claims down, the campaign response will be interesting.
Obama thinks he can do this because his own advisors have done such things before. John Kerry going to Paris to “negotiate” with our enemy, the North Vietnamese (where are the notes from that little luncheon?), Teddy Kennedy trying to usurp Reagan with the Russians, and Jay Rockefeller and the NYTimes, the list goes on.
John Kennedy must be rolling over in his grave.
Where are the real Democrats. Did they all die that November day in Dallas?
I read on this board and am encouraged by some of the posts that real Democrats will take their party back. The party I was so proudly a member of for so many years until I could no longer stomach the far-left Gramsci crowd that had seemed to take power. Where is the party that put nation before political power, honesty was to be admired, the party of FDR, Truman, JFK?
But in Obama’s mind, this is not treason, not if it increases his chances of winning the election and taking credit for bringing our troops home. But it seems that the Iraqis were not impressed with the whole “massiah” image he portrays here at home. Maybe he failed to keep his feet dry in his attempt to walk across the Tigris.
Well said.
about having Harry reid help in negotiatons, WHy?
Reid is the guy who said all is lost.
McCain is the man to settle iraq. We need a steady hand on the wheel. McCain fought the strategy of iraq since 03, and cussed out rummy over and over for his mimanagement.
I hope this Bullshit wakes up americans. I have family there. I want no man playing politics with their lives or any of our soldiers.
McCain’s words could never hold more true. “he(obama)would rather lose a war to win an election.”
Obama is change that makes you want to puke.
I bet this wakes up alot of liberals and anti-war folks.
This election should be the biggest blowout in american history after this.
Where are the bots? How can they defend this?
Fox News:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/15/report-obama-tried-to-delay-withdrawal-agreement-of-us-troops/
Treason is right. Barack Obama does NOT now, and never has, put the interests of the U.S. first. I just hope this story does not get shut down. Barack Obama is a dangerous man.
Again, I ask, what will Bill and Hillary do now?
That was my first thought, too. They may not do anything differently because they still may think McCain would be worse on Iraq than Obama, but they must feel so ill about this treacherous activity, this total disregard for the lives of our soldiers and the lives of Iraqi’s. Despicable. Even I am shocked and I truly did NOT believe Obama could shock me, since I already knew he was beneath contempt. My prayers go out to those who have family serving in Iraq.
Including reporters that risk their lives to cover the area and get to the bottom of these stories.
Bill’s own work may last longer than expected and he won’t have time to campaign for Obama.
Hmmmmmm… don’t know what to say… am waiting for the explosion! It will and has to come… wonder what Joe Biden is doing today.
Mimosa cocktail time for Joe.
The Obots will defend as they do with anyting questionable Obama says: “He never said that; You’re a racist. You were never a Democrat.” Blah, blah, blah
“What Obama Really Meant was the Agreement to reimbursement America financially from all the new oil withdrawal. Not troop withdrawal.”
Obama played political games with the lives of our soldiers. He wanted them left in theater to make his anti-war platform more appealing.
He is scum of the worst sort. THIS is the attitude of this man. THIS is the same attitude of the terrorist William Ayers, who claims he bombed those buildings because it would “bring the war home” for Americans, and further his noble goal of ending it.
You don’t play games with people’s lives to make a political point, no matter HOW valid you think that point is. If you do, that is the DEFINITION of terrorism.
TREASON! has anyone called this guy out on this yet? would anyone dare say the word in the MSM, or is it….wait for it, wait for it…coded racism?
is channeling Kissinger now? everything BO touches turns wholescale clusterf*k.
If this story is true - and given Obama’s antics, I wouldn’t doubt it - I’m sure Obama is going to come out and blame this all on John McCain somehow! “I didn’t do it! McCain is playing dirty politics…” never mind we have Hoshyar Zebari, the foreign minister, saying his conversation was with Obama!
WHERE IS LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THIS? THE FBI, CIA, AND WHOMEVER ELSE WHO BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS? Shouldn’t they be following up on this?
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
HILLARY 2012
of course the W.O.R.M. would never say it straight the FIRST TIME!
We’re all going to have to take up a new language of worms before this is all finished!
Dirty belly crawling worms.
O/T
I am listening to CNN right now on Sirius and at the Palin rally they are playing Tom Petty’s “I won’t back down”. I always associate that song with Hillary! They sure know how to play to PUMAs. That’s all I know! Since I think most of the country is really a PUMA deep down, country before party, seeking fair elections, willing to reject a crappy candidate, that is why McCain/Palin will win big!
Imagine if the Iraqi government has a tape of this convesation. Wow. This is serious!!!! But without a recrodign of this, no one will believe Iraq foreign minister.
The sad thing is that the Congress won’t charge Obama on violations of the Logan Act because they don’t care any more about our Constitution than Barack does. It’s just words…
This is sickening, the thought of more of our soldiers getting killed so Obama can get votes. I know the MSM won’t carry this story, and it needs to go viral on the Internet. While the Obamabots are busy spreading rumors about Palin’s baby, they will excuse their Master for treason, just as they made excuses and forgave him for his FISA vote.
I guess the President’s power doesn’t mean much anymore with Pelosi and Obama around. He has got to be the most dispicable person who has ever run for an office. If this news doesn’t change peoples minds then I guess we will all perish.
Comment by Annie | 2008-09-15 10:16:28
Hmmmmmm… don’t know what to say… am waiting for the explosion! It will and has to come… wonder what Joe Biden is doing today.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if it gains no traction.
given what we saw in the primaries during Hillary, I’m sure the MSM (except for Fox) are all conference calling to figure out:
How do we coverup for this guy? and they’re thinking, if it does make a big stink, could Obama just make a huge foreign policy speech about international racism, and then, we’ll praise him, and it’ll all be over?
I am sure this is true, when you think about the Canadian Nafta story and what Samantha Powers said overseas.
Also, another reason I am pissed at the Dems, they did nothing about the Iraq war or anything in Congress or Senate since 2006. They wanted to use these failures to win the WhiteHouse!
MSM ignored the fact that Obama made fun of McCain’s injuries and lied about him and computers… the ignored the k-12 sex education facts, they will ignore this too.
Face it, the powers that be in the MSM want Obama.
Hillary, please please distance yourself from this man. Who knows where Obama will end up. The Democratic party should take immediate action, and get Obama off the democratic ticket.
this could be the answer we’ve been looking for about Hillary not being VP. I think it is best she is not mired down w Obama because I think he is in very dangerous terrority. By God, someone better sure as hell do something about this.
This is sickening! How many others know about this, if true?
Did Reed and Hagle, who traveled with this slime-bag know about this?
We need the TRUTH…NOW!
When are we ever going to be able to trust the people who are supposed to govern our country again?
My answer: McCain/Palin!
Palin on Fox live
http://www.foxnews.com/
I wish she would get some new speeches. I love her but she is just repeating over and over the same things the same way as she did in her acceptence speech that 40 million people already heard. She needs to get specific on points that are really pertinent. Her remarks on the financial mess were very brief and general. Come on Sarah, show ‘em what you really got.
The stump speech is working. When it stops working, they will change it.
i actually emailed the mccain campaign about this very thing.
That is the thing…they all do their same stump speech around the country.
The news hides it more for Obama by throwing out his latest insult from the stump.
But they did touch on the fact that most of his convention speech was his stump speech.
You can catch the embedded reporters from time to time report on hearing them over and over.
There is a noticeable lack of Trolls this morning. Could it be that there is absolutely NO DEFENSE of this garbage. Obama has no conscience. The man is a sociopath who is out only for his own interests.
I have voted in every election held in Georgia since 1990 (when I became old enough to vote), and I have never voted for a Republican. This year marks a huge turning point for me. I now give my vote to whomever earns it. I have no party loyalty. My allegiance is to my country and what is best for it.
USA First!
PUMA
McCain/Palin 2008
Obama has made me cynical…I’m sure the troll bots are all on a national call with the campaign being delivered their assignments and messaging.
Correction: Narcissistic Sociopath
They are in shock–their Dear Leader has flipped on Iraq just as he did FISA. That’s probably their only point because treason is a concept likely beyond their comprehension because they see Obama as ‘citizen of the world’.
“There is a noticeable lack of Trolls this morning.”
My site doesn’t get 1/10th the traffic of this one, but I noticed that trolls seemed to quiet down a lot over the weekend. I haven’t had any troll comments yet today either. Perhaps Obama ran out of money to pay them?
They are regrouping. The message for the week had to be rewritten based on today’s news.
Not enough money to make payroll?
Question for Constitutional lawyers:
If the allegations have strength enough for prosecution, who has the authority? The courts or congress. It its the latter, we’re in trouble.
Charges would have to be brought against him by the Justice Department(investigated by the FBI). The administration would have to bring him in, as far as my understanding goes.
The question is then, how to bring this to the attention of the FBI:, who will then determine if it is worth investigating.
I thought I saw a story about two weeks ago on Mark Halperin’s The Page about Obama meeting with the FBI. Can anyone find it?
In Chicago it was for a “national Security” briefing as I saw it reported in a 15 second blurb, it was also described as “vague” on details. Fox news.
We need to get this to Veterans and active duty military. I imagine they will know what to do with it.
This article and news story has really upset me.
This is a direct violation of the LOGAN ACT and obama is GUILTY of violatng it. That makes him a traitor in simple language.
Since when can a “community organizer” make policy for the United States by asking a forign country to delay anything until after a US election? !!!!
As citizens of the US, we should DEMAND an IMMEDIATE investigation into his activities and make him accountable to all the soldiers this would affect, and to the citizens of this nation for his traitorous activities.
While we are bring him to justice for this act, perhaps we should also look at the millions and millions of foreign ARAB (muslim) dollars going into his war box. That too is against US law.
As a retired military man, I know for a fact many good soldiers have lost there life because of other “community organizers” in the past have meddled in our nations affairs behind the back of our elected officials! Enough is enough!
Just today, I listened to another HATE message by obama accussing John McCain of dishonesty and being less than honorable!
Damn what a preverted, warped opinion this man has of a real American hero. If anyone is DISHONEST and DISLOYAL he only has too look into a mirror.
“Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all?”
The mirror replied, “Not you you damn traitor!” Get out of politics, before you go to jail!
Go to the VFW hall and let the other Veterans know about this. Many of them may be like McCain and not go online much if any. The men and women of the military have been the backbone of America, let them guide now.
The rest of us need to send out copies of this and the newspapers articles to everyone on our email list. Send it to the local newspapers or write an editorial on it. Not all papers are owned by the New York Times.
Make up flyers and put them on windshields at Walmart, Kmart, Target, the malls, grocery stores. Every person in America has or has had some contact with this war.
In my mind Obama’s actions are treasonable and he must be held accountable.
Obama’s duplicity is not surprising given his history of telling the people of Ohio that NAFTA was a horrible deal, while at the same time secretly telling the Canadian government that his ranting was just “campaign rhetoric”, and he would keep NAFTA intact.
Obama is not to be trusted. Just ask his “typical white” grandmother.
THat’s exactly what I said in an email I sent out.
TREASON.
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YEP! Confirming what us non supporters were seeing in his ACTIONS, not putting blind faith in to recycled words that weren’t supported by his own deeds, Barry is confirming that he is doing what others have went to jail for. Yep, with the guideance of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s Chief Foreign Policy man advising Obama and taking cue from Reagan’s deal making with Iran, Barry was secretly trying to negotiate with heads of state. Not only trying to do opposite of his campaign claims, but also a possible matter of treason when it could be seen as trying to negotiate for something that is opposite our countries and military’s better interests and security.”
If Obama has committed treason, why isn’t he arrested and tried. Shouldn’t the DOJ be working on this post haste?
One question, how come Bush hasn’t spoken about this, Bush has to have known about it from his constant reporting from Iraq.
Was the political agreement made between Bush and Obama that Obama finally admit that the surge was an overwhelming success?
If so, not good enough when Obama has broken the law!
Bush has to have a clue to be able to even say anything.
Watching Palin and Biden now. She is dynamite. He looks like he was just embalmed.
Agreed. And it is amusing that, in light of the economic developments today w/ Merill Lynch, that McCain and Palin release statements vowing to implement stricter regulation and an overhaul of outdated practices, while Obama’s statement has consisted solely of saying McCain hasn’t fixed this already while he’s been in Washington.
.. embalmed, then defrosted and risen from the dead for this election.
Evilness with hair plugs and a face lift?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080907/i/r2096348575.jpg?x=230&y=345&q=85&sig=wg5El8aXNeYBpb7711l_kg–
Last thing I would ever do is defend Obama but it doesn’t help to throw around the word treason. An act can be despicable and anti-American and still not treason. Treason is defined in the constitution. It is the effort to actively overthrow the US government. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of Obama’s firends were about that, but this thing with Iraq is a lot of things, just not treason.
Is TRAITOR and traitorous better for you than treason?
Obama the Traitor
How fitting, the Democrats put up a traitor against a certified American war hero.
Terrorist-Appeasing,defense cutting, Anti-American,flag lapel pin denouncing, National Anthem hating, bomber buddy, Hamas endorsed, will stand with the Muslims TRAITOR.
trea·son
–noun
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
I think this falls within the deffinition
Sounds like treason to me.
“In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one’s sovereign or nation.”
Treason: the crime of violence or treachery directed against the Sovereign or the State. Even to plan such a crime is treason.
http://www.historyworld.co.uk/terms3.php
or
#1 a crime that undermines the offender’s government
# 2 disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
#3 treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
How many dead and injured Americans will stain Obama’s hands for his political expediency?!
July 21-31: 2 dead, 31 wounded (and not RTD)
August: 23 dead, 121 wounded (and not RTD)
September: 6 dead through the 14th, 32 wounded (and not RTD through the 9th)
See: Iraq Coalition Casualty Count
American Blood on Obama’s Hands
THIS IS THE FBI TIP LINE
Does this not warrant a mention to them?
https://tips.fbi.gov/
An other story from the New York post. Apparently McCain is not doing to bad in NY.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/news/columnists/ladies_man_mac_is_a_player_in_ny_129211.htm
New York State will go from “solid blue” to “leans blue” by the end of this week.
We (NY state voters) have a history of electing Republican Mayors and Governors.
I think McCain stands a good chance of putting NY in play - i.e. moved into the “toss up” column.
Ha, New Yorkers dont like losers who “PRETEND” to be an American.
Anywhere McCain can force BO to spend resources they had not planned to is a good thing.
Obama supporters surprised they have a fight on their hands
Check out the pic of the wall size Obama image. Reminiscent of the bigger than life portraits of garden variety dictators in banana republics.
A reminder of the employment oath taken by Obama
“The only time Victory is mentioned is when he is discussing his campaign…”
On the backs of the sons and daughters of America. At the expense of the sleeplessness nights, constant unknowing, tedious patience, and unwavering concern of America’s families. As we try to catch the breath knocked out of us, what is left to say?
Biden on Fox now. He’s also repeating the same mantra. It’s all Bush’s fault and McCain is his accomplice, on and on and on. While I’m not a Bush lover, there is a Dem Congress that hasn’t done anything to stop this. Biden: “The sequel is always worse than the original.” Actually that’s a pretty good line and can be applied across to the other side as well. Problem is, McCain is not Bush.
Problem for the Obama campaign that is. should have qualified that.
Although, under Pelosi`s astute leadership, stock in BOTOX has risen dramatically.
LOL!
Palin will be handling energy security, gov. reform, children with special needs,
alternative fuels and drill more..wind the whole lot..research…energy security=national security
shake things up in Washington…make gov. more open, put it back on the side of the people…cross party lines to have the best to serve…transparency in gov.
special needs children…make sure gov. is on there side…gov won’t get in the way of new treatments and new cures…
I was as against this damn war as anyone. But we are THERE, like it or not. And you make your choices from that point on based on the situation, and what is best.
To withdraw precipitously, or to game the conflict deliberately to produce failure, in order to prove “Nyah nyah nyah, we were RIGHT!” fills me with an unspeakable rage. That attitude is JUST as horrible as PNAC’s empire-building.
My attitude exactly.
yeap
I’m against the war also. Still, I wouldn’t take the minister’s word on something this explosive alone. No doubt the msm is waiting for a collaborative source to go with it in a huge way.
Ha! Words, just words? Yup, and they could put his ass in jail.
One has to wonder what deals Pelosi gave to the Syrians during her last trip there.
Could it have been: “Keep it up. Keep helping the terrorist until after the ‘O8 election”.
Just askin’
shiloh, it is treason. He is over there cutting deals to keep our troops in a war he publicly denounces and says should be ended.
It is not for him to negotiate. Putting our troops in harms wway like this is despicable.
And, i am sure if it were GWB doing this, the press would cripple him.
Obama and the democrats are scumbags. You know why the do nothing congress has done nothing?
For political gain in this election. The dems all opposed the surge becuase they want us to lose in Iraq. They have not done ANYTHING about the economy but bail-out after bail-out.
Democrats have lost my respect forever. And don’t be naive. They knew and advised obama to do this.
If Hillary and Bill still support this traitor after this story hits, i cannot in good faith support them.
And do not tell me it is politics, YOU DO NOT PLAY POLITICS WITH OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMENS LIVES.
If they care about america they will come out and denounce obama for this.
I am absolutely appalled.
Country First, not politics.
I totally agree…Hillary and Bill are already walking a thin line w me by supporting him to begin with.
ditto
Same here.
Don’t blame the Clintons for having to “support” Obama! I have it on good authority that the DNC told them if they didn’t publicly support Obama then Hillary wouldn’t have a chance in hell at running ever again. The Republicans do the same thing. It is the way it is. You can bet they know all of this information and are biting their lips while out on the campaign trail. Hillary is still the most qualified candidate out there for President, and maybe, by this twist of fate, she will be put on the ticket. Let’s not forget the Federal lawsuit by Attorney Berg who claims Obama isn’t even qualified as “natural born citizen” as well. The list of things to disqualify Obama goes on and on. But the citizenship issue and this latest issue with Iraq would be two that could take him off for certain. Obama was served the paperwork from the Federal Court to prove his citizenship, and he has 10 days to do so—hang on folks, this is going to be quite the ride!!!
so Hillary can’t run again, so what? That is more important than keeping Obama from ruining our country?? No, After the way the Democratic party treated Hillary I would tell them all to stick it.
I am disappointed by the Clintons and don’t excuse their behavior. They are as responsible for their ethical decisions as the rest of us. I have had to make moral choices that have caused hardship in my own life and so have millions of other people. People do this every day and often at great cost to themselves. This isn’t even about being an American. It’s about being a decent human being. There have many misguided politicians, intellectuals and artists in the past at one time or another who supported fascism. To this day they pay the price as History has a long memory.
Hillary didn’t want to be a heroine, just a president and we wanted that too but her place in time isn’t allowing that. Being complacent and playing along with the DNC won’t help her and negotiating, pleading, praying.. these things aren’t going to help her in the future either. The point has come where she has to be one of them or a woman who can stand alone for what is right. You know; the three am call. I am hopeful that she will do the right thing. If she doesn’t then she wasn’t the Hillary Clinton that I thought she was.
People are really clueless here. I will say it again, as have many others commenting on this site, IF THE ACCUSATIONS ARE DEEMED TRUE ABOUT OBAMA THEN THE CLINTONS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONES TO COME OUT AND DENOUNCE OBAMA! What, do you think they would defind him? The Clintons have been waiting since the primary to have even one of the dirty little secrets about Obama to become public. Hold the Clintons to the same standards and laws of the rest of our citizenry. Remember, innocent until proven guilty? They are both attorneys and are waiting to find out just like the rest of us. I have no doubt Hillary will do the right thing if these things are proven to be true. She is still the Hillary we thought she was, only thank God, she is smarter than the rest of us and waiting to get concrete evidence it is true before commenting!
Yes, they crossed the line for me. I’m watching to see if I can support them again in the future–Hillary’s reelection in NY where I live and another possible run for president. I’m very disappointed in your lack of integrity and leadership on this matter.
Thank you, Paul, great message for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Let’s hope they get it as well as read it.
Since when are Bill and Hillary the law for our country? Get real people! If anything bad comes up with someone else, somehow everyone else wants Bill and Hillary to do something about it. News flash people . . . it is OUR responsibility to make things right! Stop passing the buck. The Clintons get shit on left and right for doing the right thing, for doing nothing, for eating, breathing—crap, cut them a break. You want something to happen, get off your asses and do it yourself. I already went on the FBI tipline link and expressed my opinion about this latest Iraqi issue as well as for the questionable citizenship for Obama. So stop whining, stand up on your own two feet, and stop waiting for someone else to get the job done!
I am curious why you think we have elected officials and a political process. Are you suggesting we go out into the street with pitchforks? The reason why many people turn to the Clintons is because they still believe in them. There is the fact that Hillary Clinton is a Senator. The rest of the DNC cabal appear to be so corrupt as to be lost causes. Hillary isn’t a lost cause yet.. There is still time for her but she has to stop pandering to them.
BTW this election season I have sent over 200 emails, make countless phone calls and written to the DNC and personally spoken to people in my neighborhood as well as my family. If there is something else and lawful that you think that average citizens can do besides call an FBI tipline I am open to suggestions. This comment isn’t as facetious as it might sound. I for one, am at a loss. A huge dems against the trojan dems rally sounds great but where I live moveon.org has been the group organizing rallies for years. Where to start?
The Clintons have to do do what they did so that support for the dem candidate downticket who supported them will still be there. They can not forsake supporters like Jackson Lee. Remember th media are mostly against them.
I was disappointed but I would not count the Clintons out. I still think they know something we don’t, and they have weighed the pros and cons. Have faith.
this isn’t about the law. Rove hasn’t been indicted for exposing Valerie Plame.
this is about perception.
how will the young chippies reconcile Obama the Peacemaker with Obama the War Monger?
he needs to say the word DRAFT, & REBUILD THE MILITARY just one more time & it’s all over.
Remember how Obama said he thought about joining the military, but changed his mind when he realized there wasn’t any “active military conflict” going on?
He’s a first class A$$!
Pamela, you are right on target! Seriously, the Clintons are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. Cut them some slack and have some personal accountability folks. If you don’t like something, do something about it yourself and stop waiting for the Clintons to react to everything. You can bet they are having their own talks with the DNC about all of this coming out about Obama. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary pulls away from stumping for Obama and only focuses on the Senatorial candidates, which I understand is predominantly what she is doing on the campaign trail anyway. Obama treated her like scum during the primaries. You can rest assured, there will be no one happier than Hillary if Obama is found out.
Well, they have proclaimed their support for the corruption that is Obama. It is difficult to accept their condoning of his behavior.
Get real and step off the turnip truck! They are not condoning the behavior. It hasn’t even been proven to be true yet! Can you imagine if the Clintons came out about this publicly and it wasn’t true? My God. All hell would break loose. You can bet the Clintons have already had several private phone calls with the DNC about this. You will hear from them, when it is proven to be true. Just like some later commenters stated, get off the Clintons backs and take some personal responsibility and contact the FBI on the link provided further down on this web page.
Turnip truck?
I am sorry but their endorsement, when it is completely obvious they know of the danger Obama poses, is condoning the behavior.It’s exactly why we are offended by all those who support Obama.
I was not only referring to the events currently discussed, but of Obama’s character in general.
I understand the predicament Hillary is in; and I, like most here, am an avid supporter. She has my vote anytime ,unless she is tied to Obama.
I was simply expressing the disappointment that many people feel in her endorsement.
Alot of discussion during this election has been about priciples over party. Country over politics..to expect less from the greatest advocates we have seen (the Clintons)is difficult.
I don’t know what people expect Hillary to do. If she speaks out against Obama the MSM will portray her as a sore loser and a woman scorned. Hillary told us just about everything we needed to know about Obama during the primaries, and it’s not her fault if enough people didn’t listen or didn’t care. She’s out there campaigning for democratic policies she believes in, without degrading McCain or Palin. I can live with that and still vehemently support her in the future.
You said it Chris!!! It is a wonder Hillary is even maintaining her sanity at this point. So much more is expected of her than any other candidate in history, and yet she still wants to serve our country as an elected official. My hat is off to her. I would vote for her, if she became the candidate, in a heartbeat. She has proven she can take a lickin’ and keep on tickin’. Just be patient Hillary, your time is finally coming. Now, millions of Obama supporters are realizing they made a mistake and that you were the best candidate for President. Patience, patience . . .!
Really?Then don’t do this crap:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/5050/story?id=5809082&page=1
She’s beginning to lose me.
My country will always come first. Time to make a stand or sink along with that toad slime OBambi!
Biden, the fundamentals of our economy are not strong, no they are bad. There you have it. Put at risk the whole economy in order to elect Oblahblah. Nice going Biden. Lets have no confidence on our economic structures.
Bottom line is will ANYONE do something about it ??? If this were McCain or ANYONE else, you bet they would !!!
it seems the story is getting around
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/chicago-tv-in-2000-obama-admits.html
Keep spreading the story, EVERYONE must know the facts!
Do your share and send in this tip of treasonous behavior to the FBI.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
I sent it.
I wonder what Nobel Peace Prize winner Jimmy Carter thinks about Obama now. He endorsed Obama despite the voting fraud and despite the sexism and despite the race baiting. Now Obama is shown to be in violation of the Logan Act in a way very reminiscent of the garbage that was being rendered during his failed election.
Okay, Barack. You can forget about the pig and the lipstick. This is a substantive issue. Start talking.
Logan Act. Now. Nobama. No how, no way, nobama.
I just figured out why there are few/no Obama nutroots gang writing back on this. They have not yet received any talking points from their Dear Leader’s campaign.
You’re right - they are waiting for the memo, since it would be too logical to think they have finally seen the light and are running from him like they should be..
The above referring to the absence of the Obots today. Hilarious! Can’t wait to read it.
Is there a link to the interview or a reputable hard copy of it? I think this is a huge issue but if it is not proven beyond credible, the OB campers will make mincemeat of it. If it is legitimized, then the deal is done. He will have a really hard time getting out of this one. Under the bus goes more people–the Iraqi govt. Here’s hoping and praying it is the real deal.
I think it’s pushing it to say that Obama’s actions are treason since that would mean he tried to “over-throw” the government, but what he did certainly is blatantly unpatriotic to the max AND A FELONY under the Logan Act:
I’m curious to see if how the mainstream media Obama apologists will explain his way out of this one.
They can’t. They will simply report that Palin once tried to use an expired cupon at the grocery store 10 years ago.
AN EXPIRED CUPON!!! The horror!
umm, coupon. hah
My God! How can I possibly vote for her now?
You say ‘push that button over there’. OK.
Not only that, but while she argued with the store clerk, the meter expired and she got a parking ticket!
There is more.
This is what Obama was trying to stop. See my bold.
http://www.alsumaria.tv/en/Iraq-News/1-22429-.html
Iraq News
Zebari: US and Iraq close to signing pact
Monday, September 15, 2008 07:46 GMT
Obama does NOT want to see any more plans to bring troops home, being announced before election day.
LOCK HIM UP!
Obama rode the wave of “bring the troops home” during these past few years, so he is trying to cling to the only thing that got him this far by stopping any agreements.
He less less than an empty suit. He is simply EMPTY.
My tip to the FBI:
actually the fundamentals of our economy are quite strong. If you look at the stats of it all, things are better now statistically than they were in 99.
The only thing that is consistently falling is stock. But it is not as bad as the dems are crying.
Wapo, had an excellent artice about the economy and how obama is constantly comparing it to the Great Depression..
It is not. The problem of our economy is the fall of the dollar and high energy costs.
Obama’s plan for energy is to work towards a ten year goal of independance with renewables.
So, what is his plan in the meantime we wait for 10 years? Nothing.
McCain is going to drill, and say what you want about it but I would rather have american enrgy harvested and harnessed by american workers.
an agressive nuclear enrgy plan, 45 reactors by 2030.
Do you know that the navy has been powering ships around the world since the 50’s on nuclear? And it has never, or rarely caused a problem.
Obama is backwards on every issue. That is why you see him constantly changing positions. McCain is the real leader. And obama is following him on almost every issue now. Much the way he did to clinton. But it will not work, it will alienate the left and make the right just laugh at him. Everyone knows what bama’s plans are, his primary was the most popular primary EVER.
You cannot constantly shift back and forth.
And frankly, anyone who has been around or studied politics know that obama is pushing the same message McGovern pushed, carter pushed, kerry pushed, it is the same old liberal mumbo-jumbo. Watch a campaign speech from any of those listed and the similarities are amazing. Politico has a dukakis commercial and up on the site and it might as well be an obama commercial. It is hillarious. You would think he would model his campaign after dems that won, not dems who lost.
As far as the economy goes, I trust McCain far more than Obama.
I’m right there with you on this. zeromama burns through money and has bupkis to show for it.
Excellent point. Time to cut up his credit cards.
As far as the economy goes, I trust McCain far more than Obama.
I saw this article; I agree, it was an eye-opener, calling into question why BO insists on portraying the current health of the economy in such dire terms. But what really hit home for me about the disconnect between his rhetoric on the economy and the facts was this. Given the relatively healthy state of the U.S. economy, Senator McCain’s former economic advisor, Phil Gramm, who holds a Ph.D. in Economics, (perhaps inartfully) characterized the people who constantly complain about the present economy as being “whiners.” And BO, with no background in economics and, as we see now in that wonderful WAPO article, contradicted by the facts; pounced on Dr. Gramm’s blunt assessment of these economically misinformed citizens by accusing Senator McCain and his advisers of being out of touch with the common people.
Has any news network other than Fox covered this? I want to send this info to some folks who will immediately dismiss it if it is from the NY Post or Fox.
Bigger picture here: This action directly conflicts with Obama’s anti-war stance. We need to get this out to the anti-war people and communicate it in such a manner that they will believe it. If they actually believe it, they will turn on Obama with a viciousness never before seen in American politics.
The challenge will be to get them to believe it. This is why it has to go beyond Drudge/Fox.
Well, the rabid Obama drones are masters at denial, so they’d probably would be more than willing to go down the flaming and exploding ship with Obama before they admit they were wrong about him.
It would make sense that whoever caused the compromise editorial to appear in the June WaPo http://tinyurl.com/5c9azm
would be interested in both the NY Post story
http://tinyurl.com/6htsb6
and the Iraqi News story from this morning.
http://www.alsumaria.tv/en/Iraq-News/1-22429-.html
I don’t follow. What are you trying to say?
New Obama ad: Hey, McCain’s a liar
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/15/new-obama-ad-hey-mccains-a-liar/
I would like to know when Obama has ever told the truth???
The timing of the NY Post article just devastates Obama’s credibility even further. What a hypocritical new ad.
McCain’s ads are a result of the media not doing it’s job.
The good news is that this report, if true, could be lethal to Obama’s campaign.
The bad news is that its source is The New York Post.
Good news is that anyone can ask the Iraqi official to confirm his quote from that story.
Question is, will any other new organizations even lift a finger to give him a call?
Hmmm.. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the next few days, that very same Iraqi official mysteriously disapears or is found dead..
It’s Iraq after all, right? Perfect cover!
Let’s try this again.
The good news is that The New York Post, although it is a rag, is not biased towards Obama.
The bad news is that the rest of the MSM… is still the MSM.
Open Challenge to DNC: Give me the truth and I will make up my mind. While you are at it show me Sen. Obama’s record.
He has admitted he has a “transition” team. This stalling is for his own ego. Once in office he can then take credit for all the hard work done by our military.
What hubris.
His transition team is the helpful folks at the Chicago unemployemnt office.
From my reading, this overstates the case a bit. It does sound like Obama asked to defer any long term agreement. That’s most likely a good idea, given the Bush administration’s record on creating or sticking to agreements with Iraq.
The part about delaying the troop withdrawal seems a bit more fuzzy. If so, this sounds a lot like Obama’s position on NAFTA - says he is against it but contact Canada on the sly and says he is just campaigning and they should pay no attention to what he says on the campaign trail, he’ll support the existing NAFTA agreement with Canada. Similarly on the Iraq war - he puffs up his chest about how he was always against it and wants to bring the troops home. On the sly, he thinks a more cautious approach is better and he has no commitment to deadlines to bring the troops home. In my opinion, the second is the wiser approach at this point - but goes against what he claims to stand for in campaign speeches.
Another day, another compromised issue from Obama. Samo, samo. He’s the biggest ‘triangulator’ we’ve ever seen. Is there anything at all he’s not willing to give up?
What Obama Really Meant
You seem to downplay Obama’s by-passing the Bush Administration and attempting to negotiate with a foreign government in opposition to already negotiated plans of the REAL PRESIDENT.
Are you saying Obama has not committed a felony and that this is just politics as usual?
Oh Good God!!! This election has twisted my head into listening to Hannity, voting Republican - AND NOW I’M DEFENDING GEORGE BUSH!???
Anybody got aspirin?
They are the same in my book. Bush drawing down troops just in time to claim victory and Barky hoping to keep troops there. Both make me want to puke. I want Hillary back.
Yep! And we need to get rid of both of them.
But as bad as Bush is, that doesn’t excuse Obama from trying to usurp the US Government’s elected Commander-in-Chief.
Oh somebody help me! I’m defending Bush again!
I’m going to barf.
Barf proudly because you are right.
It looks like the dems are yelling it is the end of the world and the rep. are saying it is bad but we are strong and will get through this terrible time from what I have been reading..
How does it do America, or the world, any good to be fear-mongers about our economy.
I thought the Dems hated using fear to influence voters.
Having faith in our economy is a bad thing now? The Dems have lost their minds. . . .
I’ve been reading at several blogs where comments are made about Obama looking so much like Frank Marshall Davis (Uncle Frank from his book) — comments saying he looks more like Frank Davis than Obama Sr.
I was shocked to see this picture of Frank Marshall Davis http://tinyurl.com/6pg6xs
and realize that he DOES look more like him than he does the Kenyan.
Maybe KOS should have written about this rather than Palin not mothering little Trig.
You know what is the most fun about the election right now? Watching Obama scurry around trying to get “top celebrity” status back.
He’s looking like shoulder pads, disco…maybe more like a mood ring!
I’m thrilled that Sarah Palin has shot onto the stage and become the new rock star! And her celebrity is not a marketing ploy, it comes out of her own authenticity.
She’s real. He’s crumbling like the house of cards he is.
AND IT IS SO SATISFYING TO WATCH!
[...] McNeal, Treason!, NoQuarterUSA, September 15, [...]
Once again Berserk Ohitler demonstrates he only cares about his sorry ass ambition to rise to US dictator-in-chief. When he used the threat of insurrection (race riots) to bully his way to the nomination he should have been thrown out of the Senate for violating his oath of office and other crimes.
McCain Town Hall on FOX.COM
We need a petition to the Justice Dept.on this.
Send this story into the FBI as a tip.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Man, you people are naive as hell! I agree with Pamela and Michael. I was a political insider for 13 years. You just don’t get how it works. I for one don’t blame the Clintons at all for having to “tow the party line”. The Republicans do it as well, always have. You won’t be able to run for dog catcher if you don’t. I for one think Hillary is worth waiting for as President and I would never want to have her eliminate herself for crossing the “powers that be” in the party. She is only doing the bare minimums on the campaign trail relative to Obama. She is really stumping for all the Democratic Congressional races out there. I heard that was the deal they cut with the DNC. I also agree that you all need to stop blaming the Clintons for towing the party line in hopes of maintaining a Democratic Congress who will back up the party’s platform/philosophies for all of us the next 4 years. They are good Democrats who want the best for our country. If you don’t admire Hillary Clinton after her amazing speech at the convention, then you never will. These people have my admiration for all they have done for our country, and all they have yet to do for all of us in the future. You want something done? Do it yourself!
Well put.
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!
If you don’t realize how tough this play-acting is for Hillary, just look at her face these days and listen to the dullness in her “Obama rah-rah’s.” In that rally this weekend, the stress was obvious.
Hillary and Bill are doing exactly what they have to do to maintain themselves as political players.
And now it’s even tougher for Hillary with the Palin factor in play.
I don’t understand what people expect Bill and Hillary to do otherwise - maybe fly in the face of the Democratic Party leadership on principle, alienate the black voters, screw 35 years of political capital and become the leaders of…who?…PUMA? Nothing against PUMA, but PUMA as a base constituency is not going to get them far in 2012.
Patience - understanding - faith in the Clintons to know what they are doing - Okay?
You could also see that “pained face” look in McCain when he had to stump for Bush to keep in good standing with his party.
That is so true. So lets all get off Hillary and Bill’s back. If these accusations about Obama are found to be true, then the Clintons will be on it like flies on poop! Remember, they cannot say anything until they know it is true. Remember the little thing we have called the Constitution?
Exactly.
Thank you, Andy. Didn’t Hillary fight back hard against Obama during the primaries? I think the Clintons know Obama is going to lose no matter what they say in public. Why shouldn’t they let this whole election season play out? When Obama loses the people who supported him will lose their positions of power in the Democratic Party.
This is a page right out of Ronald Reagan’s strategy book. He negotiated with the Iranian terrorists who had taken American hostages and made a deal with them to hold the hostages until after the election. Then he spent the entire campaign tarring Carter with hostage situation and as soon as Reagan was elected the hostages were released. Obama’s great hero: Ronald Reagan.
Yah, we gotta keep that twerpie Chicagoan out of the WH.
[...] The MSM will ignore this issue of course. It is not nearly so important as Gov. Palin’s hair or glasses. You can read more about the issue here. [...]
“Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged”
- Abraham Lincoln 1863
Does this apply here?
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
One thing that is clear Ohitler has sprayed himself with teflon so the best we can hope for realistically is that he loses the election. That teflon coating is from the fear of riots Ohitler has been fomenting.
An Open Letter to Our President;
Dear Mr. President,
The last time I read the US Constitution, YOU alone are responsible as Commander-in-Chief for the deployment and withdrawal of our military forces from a hostile war zone.
The Constitution also says you are responsible for setting and enforcing the foreign policy of our nation with other foreign nations.
It has now come to light a direct attempt by a person running for political office has attempted to take these constitutionally granted powers from you.
It has been confirmed that Mr. Barack Hussain Obama, the Democratic nominee for POTUS, last July 08 secretly ask the Foreign Minister of Iraq to DELAY any withdrawal of US soldiers from his country UNTIL after the US elections in November in order to give him a favorable posture in the November general election.
My questions for you are; (1) Did you know prior to Obama’s secret request to the Iraq Foreign Minister that Obama was seeking to influence the troop withdrawal process in order to better his position in the November general election?
(2) Did Mr. Obama, or any other person in the Democratic party who accompanyed Obama on that July trip brief you, or discuss with your Secretary of Defense, or Secretary of State upon their return home their troop withdrawel delay request to the Foriegn Minister of Iraq?
(3) Was Chuck Hagle, the Republican Senator from Nebraska,who accompanied Obama on this “fact finding” trip AWARE of Obama’s request to influence and DELAY troop withdrawels in order give Obama a favorable position for the general election known? Did Mr Hagle bring this to your attention?
(4) Was this secret discussion about troop withdrawals between Obama and the Foreign Minister of Iraq known to ANYONE in your administration prior to 15 Sept 08? If so, what actions did you or your administration take to bring this information to the public’s attention?
Mr President, YOU, ME, and all of the American people have been HOODWINKED by the Massiah of Change.
Obama has committed a direct violation of the Logan ACT and as such MUST (I repeat MUST) be held accountable for his actions!
The Logan Act is NOT JUST WORDS. This act defines and describes traitorous acts against the best interest of the United States and it’s people.
Obama has violated this document and our Constitution in reference to his dispecable request of the Iraq Foreign Minister.
YOU, having been legally elected as our President, and Commander-in-Chief MUST hold this man, and all others with knowledge of his actions, accountable according to the laws of our land!
The eyes of the American public are not only upon Mr. Obama now, they are also looking hard to see what you will do about this serious violation of law.
Will you roar like you did when the terrorist took down the twin towers, or will you whimper, mumble to yourself, and remain silent letting our US Constitution erode and the Logan Act be violated by a simple Chicago “community organizer”?
I hoped you act as the President I voted for. I hope you still believe in our Constitution enough to question Obama’s actions in the public opinion arena!
The ball is now in your court. PLAY BALL!
THIS LETTER SHOULD BE SENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE BY ALL AMERICANS REQUESTING THE PRESIDENT’S ACTION
Perfect. Here is G.W.Bush’s e-mail. Maybe he can finally do the right thing for our country. Then maybe he won’t be remembered in the history books as the worse President ever, but as a Hero for saving us from the fraud.
I urge everyone to send him an e-mail, pass it on also. Time is NOT on out side.
To email President George W. Bush click here or use this address:
PRESIDENT@WhiteHouse.gov
(And Remember to add your name, address, and phone number at the bottom of your message.)
NEWS ALERT>>>>>Obama denies this story on FOX news….waiting for more info….
This oughta help him fight those falling poll numbers. his nearly 20 point lead in NY is now only five.
hahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark your calendars
9/15/2008
The plunge accelerates
They have answered this according to a Fox spokesman on right now. Totally false OB campaign says. The explanation given by the Fox guy said it was basically a non issue and that it was a different context that applied. didn’t catch it all so can’t post the exact explanation. They did say Obama never said what they are referring to. There needs to be a confirmed link to this to have it go anywhere. Doesn’t look like our wished for smoking gun.
Duh, of course he’s going to deny it. It never happened; that’s not what I said; if I said it that’s not what I meant.
I hope a good investigative journalist will follow through.
PERPETRATOR DENIES COMMITTING CRIME!
—- WOW —-
File that under DOG BITES MAN!
If he said it, it must be true. Just like what he said about Wright, Ayers, Rezko…
Nothing to see here, where is that punch bowl with the kool-aid?
Yes, of course Obama will deny these accusations. Just like he denied that his economic adviser Austan Goolsby had met with the Canadian consul in Chicago to discuss Obama plans to renegotiate NAFTA. Goolsby told the Canadians that Obama had no plans to renegotiate NAFTA even though this is what Obama was saying.
The Obama campaign said no such meeting took place until the minutes of the meeting were released by someone in the Canadian government. Then the Obama campaign got their media surrogates to say “Hillary did it too,” which the Canadian government denied. Anyone see a pattern here?
George Bush would be doing the country a big favor by calling out this POS, Obama, on national TV and remind him of what is written in the Constitution.
If he does, it opens the door for McCain to inform the voters, tangentially, the actions of this fraud, Obama.
NOOOOOOOO! Georgie boy needs to sit down and shut up until after the election. Go cut brush, snort coke, try and milk a bull, anything but remind the country that he and McCain are from the same party.
I knew it. Obama is in love with Reagan, and praised him for changing the trajectory of the election. The only thing that could have been was Reagan’s october surprise.
Well…I think I’m going to invest my dollars in the Paper Shredding business, cause history is repeating itself.
Obama does have a weird obsession with Pakistan and Iran. He talks about bombing Pakistan (when they are in the midst of changing presidents). And he wants to talk to Iran.
sniff sniff….do i smell a brezenski somewhere?
Does anyone know if the new Gallup polls come out today?
They are out. McCain up by 2 points.
See: http://gallup.com/home.aspx
Thanks. I expected a bigger bounce…
look what the previous gallup poll was before you talk abut how big the bounce was
before: Obama +8
after: McCain +2
Thats a 10 points bounce.
What did you want a 20 pointer?
He already got a 20 point bounce with independant voters.
This may have been mentioned up thread, but based on what I saw on Fox, Obama is basically saying this never happened. I’m sure most of the media will take his word on this and look into something they find really important, such as what celebrities think about Governor Sarah Palin (because, you know, celebrities exhibit such good judgment in their own lives, that we should all look to them while making our voting decisions).
Anyone see the irony ?..If OB says it’s not true, he is calling the Iraqi minister a liar, so how would that play out if he god forbid becames Prez..
Here’s the thing, if it’s NOT true then the journalist who wrote the piece should be fired. I’m sick of these accusations from both sides and all one has to say is “I never said that.”
Has anyone interviewed the Iraqi minister?
I want polygraphs for all candidates, surrogates and, yes, the media!
Frustrating…………
in Obama desperate attempt to recreate himself, he has come out with a new slogan. click name.
Hillary becoming President in November has been trading around 3% on Intrade because of the Berg lawsuit in PA seeking to enjoin Obama from being the nominee because he is not a US citizen — the theories being that he was either born overseas or lost his American citizenship while in Indonesia and never got it back upon his return to Hawaii.
Just say no to Obama Bin Biden — Smug & Plugs.
god, are you poeple so naive. Hillary is not a god to worship and forgive for everything.
I like her just like the rst of us. But, if our politicians would stop blaming everything on politics we might think a bit more highly of them.
someone above said the dnc threatened she would not be able to run in 012.
So what? I mean come on. Sure, lots of pols tow the line. That does not make it right.
She should stand for what is right, not what is politically expediant. she is not an angel. And to defend her for everything and dismis it as, “she has to” is the reason why america excepts pols like Barrack Obama.
Get over her. America is more important than any single party. To be honest if she would have told the dnc and obama to piss off, she would have ALOT more respect than she does now from americans.
You guys are on here saying it is not about party and poeple should wake up, what about hillary?
She is doing it all for party. She would have won the hearts of americans completely, on the left and right and down the middle if she would have stood for principle and what is right.
Wake up. I love the clintons and they are the poeple who made me fall in love with politics years ago.
However, that in no way makes them unaccountable for what they do, or in this case do not do.
she’s a prisoner is the line used most often. She is not a prisoner of the DNC as you all claim, she is a prisoner to her own ambition.
Paul, I so agree with you and don’t understand the “free pass” she gets. I guess we are all vulnerable to cult of personality.
Wow–once again, people are trying to somehow put this all on the Clintons! What about all the other Democratic Governors, Senators, Mayors who also have been campaigning for Obama?
Do you all have selective memory when it comes to McCain after his hard fought battle in the primary with “W”? Bush trashed him, questioned his patriotism, called him every name in the book, and McCain had to come back and stump for Bush. Just like Hillary, he didn’t like it, but he had to do it “to live to fight another day”–and look . . . HE HAS! That is what this is about! This is not about the Clinton’s being ambitious, it is about knowing they have alot they want to do yet to make our country great again, and they cannot do it if they buck the system. There are many, many examples of other candidates backing the nominee when they didn’t want to. Don’t view it as right or wrong, it simply IS!
I have a friend at the DNC who says they are panicking right now. Everyone is scrambling. Not because of the Iraqi issue but because of the citizenship lawsuit by Berg (see obamacrimes.com). That has them in a tizzy because they know that Obama wasn’t vetted correctly. This issue will probably be the one that brings him down.
Besides, if the Clintons come out against Obama and the Iraqi issue, and they prove not to be real, then they are screwed. Think about it people. You are not thinking clearly. Thank God the Clintons are. If it is found to be true about the citizenship or the Iraqi issue, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT FROM THE CLINTONS! So get off their case and do something about it yourself by contacting the FBI at the link provided. I, like others on this site, did so.
I believe that happened with every fiber of my being. I believed it then, and even more so today. The fact that the hostages were released within minutes of Reagan taking office…Please!
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html
Reagan has so much love these days. I remember when he was running for office…people were calling him the anti-christ, etc… the people i knew hated Reagan. i think Iran/Contra was probably one of the top 10 most treasonous things politicians have done to our country. i don’t believe for one minute that he won by the landslide that he did. when i ask people what did he do that was really good for this country, i rarely get answers. the only thing they can come up with is that he ended the cold war. i don’t give him that much credit. he was at the right place at the right time, in my opinion. i’m sorry to all the Reagan fans, i mean no disrespect.
i may no longer be a democrat, and i will vote republican for the first time in my life…but i’m not going to forgive and forget their past.
AND…if the republicans do come up with an October Surprise that they have been holding out on…I’ll be more pissed. i want to see obama lose worse than ever. but since i’m in texas & mccain will win here anyway…i may not vote. i don’t want to reward them for hanging on to their “surprise” until after Hillary was out of the race because they were so scared to run against her.
Many of we Democrats are in the same situation. I have never voted for a Republican, but I truly cannot vote for Obama. If it is any consolation, I am holding out that HRC will still be on the ticket. If she comes back on the ticket, there are millions of voters who would come back to vote for her and I know she would win. That is why the Republicans are holding off all of the dirt on Obama until mid to late October because they know they cannot beat Hillary. That is what all of this has been about since the beginnning. They wanted Obama to win the nomination, not Hillary. Ask any political insider or commentator.
I don’t normally believe in psychics but 4 prominent psychics have come out publicly (recently) to say by a twist of fate that Hillary will be the Presidential Democratic candidate on the ticket come November. Cross your fingers and hang on to your hats. A big storm is coming within the DNC and I want a front row seat!
That chick who won the Great American Psychic Challenge (or whatever that show was called), Michelle Whitedove, says Hillary will be President, too.
But WTF, short or jail or death would prevent the massive ego that’s Obama to relinquish the nomination?
I get intuitive hits sometimes, and I wrote in my journal a while back that Hillary would get the nomination in a surprise upset.
I have another intuitive friend who thinks something really surprising is going to happen with this election before November.
My feeling right now though is that McCain will win and Palin will be our first woman president. Someone posted a link on here to a psychic who had published on her website way back when that the man with a woman VP was going to win by a landslide but that something would happen to him in office where she would take over by end of term. At the time she wrote that, she was thinking it was Obama/Clinton.
Not that famous psychics are ever right about anything. I do believe in this stuff but most famous psychics (like Sylvia Brown) are just in it for the bucks.
Treason
-Obama has tried to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
-Obama has close connections to US born terrorists
-Obama is receiving massive illegal overseas donations
-Three of Obama’s church members and two superdelagates have been killed in 2008.
-Obama has not explained trip to Pakistan in 1981 and how he entered that country. (Passport)
-Obama has not proved within reasonable proof that he was not born in Kenya.
-Marxist and communist tax plan largest redistribution of wealth in US history.
-Attempts to silence free speech regarding voting record, raciest anti-white comments and memoirs, Ayers, Resole, and Wright, heavy drug use, homosexuality and Muslim relatives.
-Democratic elect Obama forges US presidential seal in anticipation of seizing power.
-Media has infiltrated election and sponsored our first candidate for American people.
[...] saw Eastan’s shocking story today, “Treason!” Ed Morrissey adds important perspectives on the credibility of the source, and on how Barack [...]
I clearly remember reading this, coming FROM THE
IRAQI GOVERNMENT, at the time it happened.
How come it was ignored this long?
Where did you read it at?
Some wonder why Obama isn’t being prosecuted for Treason. I would advise against this until after the election. If the Bush administration did this now, they would create a firestorm that would get obama elected. If we can defeat Obama, the new adminstration’s attorney general ought to mount an investigation to determine if the law was broken. Canada, speeches in Berlin, now discussions with Irag - Obama is so arrogant and unfamilar with US law that you wonder how he can be taken seriously as a candidate for the executive office, the one that is the prime enforcer of US Law.
Mabel, what are you talking about? How is anyone putting it all on the clintons? Because i said she should be held accountable? I thought that is what we want from our pols. Again, if this iraq story is true and i believe it is. Then, she should drop her support along with every other dem. I also think she should have never endorsed him.
Stop trying to make Hillary the victim. She is a strong women and should be able to stand for what is right.
Do not tell me to get off their case. She is one of the most powerful figures in our politics. If she came out against obama you know what a difference it would make. Of course obama was delaying troop withdrawal. Just like he told the canucks he was posturing on nafta and denied it for days until the evidence was overwhelming.
Paul, you are missing the point! NO ONE can come out in the Democratic Party unless there is HARD AND CONCRETE proof that all of this is true. So take it down a few notches and hold the Clintons to the same standard you would anyone else. If the claims against Obama are found to be true, the Clintons will be the first ones to denounce Obama! There is a little thing in our country called “innocent until proven guilty” and the Clintons, as attorneys, are understandably waiting to hear like the rest of us. However, you can be certain they have made several phone calls to the DNC about this already.
Comment by pasmalltowngirl | 2008-09-15 13:22:43
Where did you read it at?
On line, of course, but I don’t remember where.
Comment by UBM | 2008-09-15 13:29:09
Yes, friends, Barack Obama behaved so treacherously, he even told reporters about it at the time.
Here’s what NBC reported online, June 16:
“He said he told Zebari that netotiations for a Status of Forces agreement or strategic framework agreement… should be done in the open and with Congress’s authorization…. He argued it would make sense to hold off on such negotiations until the next administrations.”
So I guess the firing squad shouldn’t lock and load just yet, huh?
Uh oh. Obama’s WORM just died. At Obama’s own hand.
what a shame.
its one thing to hold a press conferance with your pom pom girls and tell them your views.
Its another thing to go into a meeting with heads of foreign states and try to influence foreign policy in a way to banefit your political campaign, especially when you are not a member of the foriegn policy team sent by and reprseneting the President.
Barack Obama is a disgusting PIG who will say and do ANYTHING to get elected. This Piece of SHIT doesnt care what the cost is as long as he gets his round office to sit and and looke presidential.
Any asshole that thinks this is acceptable needs to get his head examined.
Barack Obama is a TRAITOR!
That’s not what I read, what I read at the time was
definitely a statement from IRAQI OFFICIAL(S).
breeze, but there is more to it. He told reporters he wanted congress involved in negotiatons on staying in Iraq.
He did not tell reporters that he does not want troops to withdrawal while bush is in.
This contradicts his public message of birng the troops home now no matter what.
What you listed breeze is not what is in question.
Also, congress is not to negotiate with other countries, the President does.
Actually, what you linked is just evidence that he was trying to stonewal talks. he is not allowed to do that.
And again, the storie is not that he wanted congress to do it but that he told them DO NOT make a deal until i am here in office. He is delaying the troops coming home.
Also, why is he denying this happened when he admitted partially to doing it.
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excellent comment
When Obama campaigned for Raila Odinga in Kenya wasn’t this illegal also? Why does nobody on this site mention this? There are pictures of Obama campaigning with Odinga.
Lookey!! Lookey!!
OBAMA IS DENYING!!!
BECAUSE
OBAMA IS LYING!!!
However MSNBC covered exactly what he said back in JUNE!!!
And again Here is todays report from NYPost for Comparison!!!!
DENIAL?
WHY?
WHO IS LYING NOW BEEYATCH!!!!!!
BUSTED AGAIN BACKTRACK OBUMMER!!!!!
WHAT A TOTAL LOAD OF CRAP!
Amir Taheri is a neo-con tool. He’s an advocate of regime change in Iran. He’s best known for his totally fabricated 2006 news story, “A Colour Code for Iran’s Infidels” which falsely claimed that Jews in Iran were being forced to wear special identifying clothing, much as the yellow star in Nazi Germany. He produced a second fake story that same year, titled: “Iran OKs ‘Nazi’ Social Fabric. Yellow Label for Jews as Chilling Dress Code Echoes the Holocaust.”
His 1989 book Nest of Spies was debunked for citing “nonexistent sources,” fabricating “nonexistent substance in cases where the sources existed,” and distorting the facts “beyond recognition”.
He’s also the guy who publicly asserted that Javad Zarif, Iran’s UN rep, had taken part in the Iranian U.S. hostage crisis–a claim that was later revealed to be total bullshit.
More unreliable sources than this bag of hot air probably don’t exist.
Stuff it Ziggbama. In his own words from msnbc in June.
Busted!
Traitor!
DROP OUT NOW OBUTTHEAD!!
And you believe that, by some leap of the imagination, confirms what Amir Taheri said?
I will paraphrase Senator Obama for the sake of greater clarity: We wouldn’t want George f—ing Bush locking the United States into his own misconceived plan for troop withdrawal during the final 3 months of his screwed-up, godforsaken administration, regardless of “…whether it was my administration or Sen. McCain’s administration.”
That doesn’t constitute interference with anything except the further fouled-up machinations of George W. Bush. It clears the way for either he or McCain to deal with the war free of Bush’s gamesmanship.
Presumably nobody believes Bush will wind up the war and withdraw the troops in the next 3 months. Delaying Bush delays nothing. It clears the way for the next president.
Ziggy Stuff it!
No Traitors in the White House!
Country Before Cult of Personality!
Obama - Willing to Lose a war to win an election.
Obama asks america how many votes can i get for every extra military casualty between now and election day?
Another of your fallacious arguments, obamatron. The issue is neither about his book in 1989 nor about his other assertions. You failed to answer a single issue presented in this blog. Either come up with something relevant or dry up, dumbass. I’m frankly tired of your illogical arguments.
Ziggy is spinnin like a top.
Meanwhile Obama keeps diggin his own political grave.
I guarantee if he wasnt tanking in the pols this story would never have seen the lite of day under threat of god only knows what.
Hell, he’s spinning like a quasar. He’s so fast, he has a lie ready before a statement is made.
I find it difficult to believe that anyone could seriously be buying this bullshit. I mean, it’s gotta just be because it’s useful to smear Obama, right? You surely can’t actually have been taken in by it.
Irrelevant. Your argument is an ad hominem, non-abusive. It is also a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Now dry up.
I will do so. Good luck with this one.
This post was in response to Zippy.
i know.
I am so mad right now!
This is a 527 ad in the making. If they don’t cover this one, they have lost their edge!
They’ll get to it. There’s just so much stupidity to cover that I bet they’re having a difficult time keeping up.
The Oblahblah meltdown is coming.
ignore ziggybama. he is just desperately trying to frame every issue as just a distraction that emericans dont want to hear about. Americans want to hear about real issues like how McCain can’t send emails and Palis was wearing a pregnancy suit.
Obama campaign - morons on crack
Obama Supporters - the Morons that work for the Obama campaign for free.
Oh, by all means some 527 group should definitely go for it. That oughta finish off whatever credibilty might still remain with the McCain attack ad campaign.
WHERE IS THE PREGNANCY SUIT BEEYATCH?????
You’re talking about credibility with a carpet-bagger candidate like your master? Hahahaha.
BTW: Your prognostications are no better than Ms Cleo’s, bot.
Not the Pregnancy suit but still its pretty important to the average american:
BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!
MCCAIN CAMP RESPONDS TO OBAMA’S INTERFERENCE IN IRAQI POLICY
BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!
BREAKING!!!
Who goes under the bus this time?
CLEARLY IT WAS THE LIVES OF OUR AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND THE PROGRESS OF IRAQ TOWARDS BEING SELF RELIANT THAT WENT UNDER THE UNITY BUS!!
TELL ME SENATOR BENEDICT ARNOLDBAMA, HOW MANY VOTES DID YOUR CAMPAIGN’S INTERNAL POLLING TELL YOU THAT YOU COULD YOU GET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILITARY DEATH BETWEEN NOW AND THE ELECTION?
You idiots need to do some research on Amir Taheri.
Ad hominems, anyone? Bots love them. The idiots, Trev, are down the hall on the extreme left at HuffPo. Why don’t you join them, obamatron?
…and you idots should have done some research on Backtrack Obummer!
You sacrificed the best candidate you could have hoped for to push this fraud on the american public and the american public is saying NO OBAMA!
So,Our Goverment money was stolen in giving grants.I also think the grant was giving but not used untill running senate and for president.They the money was being drag up at a time.That’s our goverment money to help the people.Helpthe people in need.Obama stole money from our goverment.He willcontinue doing so in getting the next election set up.Obama needs to be throw our of the senate and our goverment!He is breaking america.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-woods-fund/2/