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	<title>Comments on: Can the MSM Get Over Its Precious Self?</title>
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		<title>By: Pennsylvania goes RED!</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/can-the-msm-get-over-its-precious-self/#comment-858236</link>
		<dc:creator>Pennsylvania goes RED!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is an important distinction because it explains their apparently self destructive behavior.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Hmmm, I think you&#039;re on to something.

I believe they do want to win, however they are rookies on a national scale, as such, are making n00b mistakes. I saw a TV ad recently, you know the rising sun symbol of the 0bama campaign, it had this animated red arrow stretching out to the left and right from the symbol. What the christ are they trying to do? Is that supposed to be some subliminal mind control? Citizens want substance when they vote for a President, not freaky deaky symbolism.

The voter fraud can be challenged and who knows what the outcome could be. If it&#039;s a close election, we could be subject to a 2000 replay.

But I agree with you, n0bama himself said he was not ready to lead and perhaps on some subliminal level he is self-sabotaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is an important distinction because it explains their apparently self destructive behavior.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm, I think you&#8217;re on to something.</p>
<p>I believe they do want to win, however they are rookies on a national scale, as such, are making n00b mistakes. I saw a TV ad recently, you know the rising sun symbol of the 0bama campaign, it had this animated red arrow stretching out to the left and right from the symbol. What the christ are they trying to do? Is that supposed to be some subliminal mind control? Citizens want substance when they vote for a President, not freaky deaky symbolism.</p>
<p>The voter fraud can be challenged and who knows what the outcome could be. If it&#8217;s a close election, we could be subject to a 2000 replay.</p>
<p>But I agree with you, n0bama himself said he was not ready to lead and perhaps on some subliminal level he is self-sabotaging.</p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton - 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton - 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah, you are always so witty and wise.

The person you took your name from can also be described as guilty as hell and free as a bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah, you are always so witty and wise.</p>
<p>The person you took your name from can also be described as guilty as hell and free as a bird.</p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton - 2012</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/can-the-msm-get-over-its-precious-self/#comment-755363</link>
		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton - 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pets, dead people, children, Hollywood, elites, nutroot far leties and AA&#039;s.

And to think we used to worry about voter apathy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pets, dead people, children, Hollywood, elites, nutroot far leties and AA&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And to think we used to worry about voter apathy!</p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton - 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton - 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be riots if he wins or riots if he loses.  You have no choice at this point.

Police and National Guardsmen still know how to do their jobs and will round them up and bash in a few heads.  We said all along he was setting back civil rights gains by decades, we weren&#039;t lying.

We fought for it and that punk wouldn&#039;t even try to stop it or be a real role model to AA youth.  He will be fully held responsible for inciting riots.

If/when it does happen, and I fully expect it to, the blood will be on his own damn filthy hands.

We worked for progress, that is what progressives do, he destroyed it all and created a cult.

Dead SERIOUS.  This isn&#039;t a joke. It is a cult and his followers are as brainwashed as they are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be riots if he wins or riots if he loses.  You have no choice at this point.</p>
<p>Police and National Guardsmen still know how to do their jobs and will round them up and bash in a few heads.  We said all along he was setting back civil rights gains by decades, we weren&#8217;t lying.</p>
<p>We fought for it and that punk wouldn&#8217;t even try to stop it or be a real role model to AA youth.  He will be fully held responsible for inciting riots.</p>
<p>If/when it does happen, and I fully expect it to, the blood will be on his own damn filthy hands.</p>
<p>We worked for progress, that is what progressives do, he destroyed it all and created a cult.</p>
<p>Dead SERIOUS.  This isn&#8217;t a joke. It is a cult and his followers are as brainwashed as they are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton - 2012</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/can-the-msm-get-over-its-precious-self/#comment-755337</link>
		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton - 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ob bought and paid for NBC fair and sqauare with money from doodad and soros and GA - not Georgia, no, no, no, but the GAZA brothers.

He owns Keith and the peacock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ob bought and paid for NBC fair and sqauare with money from doodad and soros and GA &#8211; not Georgia, no, no, no, but the GAZA brothers.</p>
<p>He owns Keith and the peacock.</p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton - 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton - 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been mystifying to me how ob retains any of his Jewish support base.  I was married to a Jew for 27 years and we were both NY&#039;ers so Judiasm (and all other cultures and beliefs) were part and parcel of our family and friends.

My ex-husband saw right through ob a very long time ago. Alarm bells and red flags went off regarding ob&#039;s connections of many anti-Israel friends and associates.  Even Hillary&#039;s introduction of ob at AIPAC didn&#039;t sway my ex.  He stated, rightly so, it is one of the few things Hillary or Bill has ever done that disappointed him greatly, especially after ob made his contrary remarks hours later.

Can ob be trusted regarding Israel?  Absolutely F&#039;n NO WAY.  Just look at his latest threats to stop Palin from appearing at the Iran rally.  He is all about winning and whenever we examine his actions and his history we find it alarming and horrifying.

Susan, We salute you for your hard work and diligence and Larry as well for bringing us so many great articles from your outstanding contributors.

Without you both many of us would still feel the way we do, we just wouldn&#039;t have a constant reminder of why and this little &quot;echo chamber&quot; where we are free to speak our minds and find other who reflect and teach and learn from each other.

Saturday night toast - NQ ROCKS, cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been mystifying to me how ob retains any of his Jewish support base.  I was married to a Jew for 27 years and we were both NY&#8217;ers so Judiasm (and all other cultures and beliefs) were part and parcel of our family and friends.</p>
<p>My ex-husband saw right through ob a very long time ago. Alarm bells and red flags went off regarding ob&#8217;s connections of many anti-Israel friends and associates.  Even Hillary&#8217;s introduction of ob at AIPAC didn&#8217;t sway my ex.  He stated, rightly so, it is one of the few things Hillary or Bill has ever done that disappointed him greatly, especially after ob made his contrary remarks hours later.</p>
<p>Can ob be trusted regarding Israel?  Absolutely F&#8217;n NO WAY.  Just look at his latest threats to stop Palin from appearing at the Iran rally.  He is all about winning and whenever we examine his actions and his history we find it alarming and horrifying.</p>
<p>Susan, We salute you for your hard work and diligence and Larry as well for bringing us so many great articles from your outstanding contributors.</p>
<p>Without you both many of us would still feel the way we do, we just wouldn&#8217;t have a constant reminder of why and this little &#8220;echo chamber&#8221; where we are free to speak our minds and find other who reflect and teach and learn from each other.</p>
<p>Saturday night toast &#8211; NQ ROCKS, cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: educatedwhitewoman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/can-the-msm-get-over-its-precious-self/#comment-754877</link>
		<dc:creator>educatedwhitewoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your link, interesting info on Obama key advisor Pritzker (McCain camp should really use this in an ad): 

&quot;With a business loss estimate of between $350 million and $1 billion, the 2001 failure of the Pritzkers’ Superior Bank represented the largest US-insured deposition institution to fall between 1992 and 2001. According to a February 7, 2002, report by FDIC Inspector General Gaston Gianni Jr., “the failure of Superior Bank was directly attributable to the Bank’s Board of Directors and executives ignoring sound risk management principles.”

To avoid being punished for the failure of Superior Bank, the Pritzker family agreed to pay the FDIC $460 million. Yet even with this settlement, the failure of the Superior Bank due to its board’s apparent mismanagement cost the federal thrift insurance agency (and US taxpayers) about $440 million. . .

The 1,400 Superior Bank depositors whose savings deposits in excess of $100,000 were uninsured, however, brought a federal civil racketeering suit against Penny Pritzker and other former Superior Bank officials. . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your link, interesting info on Obama key advisor Pritzker (McCain camp should really use this in an ad): </p>
<p>&#8220;With a business loss estimate of between $350 million and $1 billion, the 2001 failure of the Pritzkers’ Superior Bank represented the largest US-insured deposition institution to fall between 1992 and 2001. According to a February 7, 2002, report by FDIC Inspector General Gaston Gianni Jr., “the failure of Superior Bank was directly attributable to the Bank’s Board of Directors and executives ignoring sound risk management principles.”</p>
<p>To avoid being punished for the failure of Superior Bank, the Pritzker family agreed to pay the FDIC $460 million. Yet even with this settlement, the failure of the Superior Bank due to its board’s apparent mismanagement cost the federal thrift insurance agency (and US taxpayers) about $440 million. . .</p>
<p>The 1,400 Superior Bank depositors whose savings deposits in excess of $100,000 were uninsured, however, brought a federal civil racketeering suit against Penny Pritzker and other former Superior Bank officials. . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Oakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m shocked. Sarah Palin should be raped, and this part:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s--t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b---h! Don’t you f--kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls--t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b---h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You whore in your f--kin&#039; cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls--t moment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked. Sarah Palin should be raped, and this part:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now you got Uncle Women, like Sarah Palin, who jumps on the s&#8211;t and points her fingers at other women. Turncoat b&#8212;h! Don’t you f&#8211;kin’ reference Old Testament, bitch! You stay with your new Goyish crappy shiksa funky bulls&#8211;t! Don’t you touch my Old Testament, you b&#8212;h! Because we have left it open for interpre-ta-tion! It is no longer taken literally! You whore in your f&#8211;kin&#8217; cheap New Vision cheap-ass plastic glasses and your [sneering voice] hair up. A Tina Fey-Megan Mullally brokedown bulls&#8211;t moment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shocked.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Yes, Obama is a true fascist in the guise of a Leftie.  Without exaggeration, I say he&#039;s very much like Mussolini and Hitler in his strong-arm tactics, propaganda, and cult status.  (See Tarpley&#039;s OBAMA: THE POSTMODERN COUP.)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yes, Obama is a true fascist in the guise of a Leftie.  Without exaggeration, I say he&#8217;s very much like Mussolini and Hitler in his strong-arm tactics, propaganda, and cult status.  (See Tarpley&#8217;s OBAMA: THE POSTMODERN COUP.)</strong></p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I hope you mean NEO-Democrats when referring to Obama.  Bill Clinton used the term New Democrats to describe his &quot;third way&quot; politics (i.e. centrist politics by triangulation). 


I&#039;d rather refer to these Neo Democrats as Pod Democrats.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I hope you mean NEO-Democrats when referring to Obama.  Bill Clinton used the term New Democrats to describe his &#8220;third way&#8221; politics (i.e. centrist politics by triangulation). </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather refer to these Neo Democrats as Pod Democrats.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, say bring the riots on if that is what they&#039;re threatening. We can&#039;t let ourselves be intimidated by these thugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, say bring the riots on if that is what they&#8217;re threatening. We can&#8217;t let ourselves be intimidated by these thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama people dont want to win an election. They want to win over peoples hearts and minds to their ideas. They want the country to adopt their ideas on how things should be run. 

If they allowed Hillary to have her votes counted and the will of the people to prevail their ideas would have fallen to the wayside.

By pushing Obama forward they continue to have an opportunity to push their ideas on government down everyones throat. They hope that if they are in charge long enough they can kill off the Clinton wing of the party&#039;s voice and their views permanently.

This is an important distinction because it explains their apparently self destructive behavior. They are not fighting to win this election, they are fighting to change how people think. If they can not convert you they want to silence and destroy you. They are not concerned about winning over Clinton supporters to their side with compromise, because they are not going to compromise their belief. They are fanatics. They want to eliminate any competing ideas on government.

As such they have no realistic strategy to win the election, and will lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama people dont want to win an election. They want to win over peoples hearts and minds to their ideas. They want the country to adopt their ideas on how things should be run. </p>
<p>If they allowed Hillary to have her votes counted and the will of the people to prevail their ideas would have fallen to the wayside.</p>
<p>By pushing Obama forward they continue to have an opportunity to push their ideas on government down everyones throat. They hope that if they are in charge long enough they can kill off the Clinton wing of the party&#8217;s voice and their views permanently.</p>
<p>This is an important distinction because it explains their apparently self destructive behavior. They are not fighting to win this election, they are fighting to change how people think. If they can not convert you they want to silence and destroy you. They are not concerned about winning over Clinton supporters to their side with compromise, because they are not going to compromise their belief. They are fanatics. They want to eliminate any competing ideas on government.</p>
<p>As such they have no realistic strategy to win the election, and will lose.</p>
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		<title>By: BloBots You Can Blow Off</title>
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		<dc:creator>BloBots You Can Blow Off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that it&#039;s way more than 6%.

Why?  Because of the Bradley effect on research into the Bradley effect.

People can deal with Blacks running cities and states, cause those offices produce measurable results.  They&#039;re local.  You&#039;ve got at least a shred of control over the politicians.

But the presidency?

No way.  The president has four years to run amok.  And we, the voters, the citizens, have no recourse whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that it&#8217;s way more than 6%.</p>
<p>Why?  Because of the Bradley effect on research into the Bradley effect.</p>
<p>People can deal with Blacks running cities and states, cause those offices produce measurable results.  They&#8217;re local.  You&#8217;ve got at least a shred of control over the politicians.</p>
<p>But the presidency?</p>
<p>No way.  The president has four years to run amok.  And we, the voters, the citizens, have no recourse whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: BloBots You Can Blow Off</title>
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		<dc:creator>BloBots You Can Blow Off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent, Sir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent, Sir</p>
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		<title>By: tzada</title>
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		<dc:creator>tzada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also lets don&#039;t forget about Obama&#039;s financial campaign chairman - Penny Pritzker, that cost the Federal Government - &lt;strong&gt;taxpayers one billion dollars&lt;/strong&gt; when Superior Bank failed, and 450 million dollars still owed to the FDIC - and they gave her 15 years to pay back - no interest. 

The trail for this failure leads to Bear sterns whose bailout &lt;strong&gt;cost taxpayers 30 million.&lt;/strong&gt;

These questions need to be asked and answered. 

Mr. Obama, why does she still have a principal financial role in your campaign?

Mr Obama, if Obama  elected will you waive this money owed?

Barack Obama talks how hundreds have lost in the sub prime mess.  It seems like the only person to come out well was his finance manager.  And he knows it.  Superior Bank of CHICAGO was a predatory lender, preying on some of the base that he counts on to elect him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also lets don&#8217;t forget about Obama&#8217;s financial campaign chairman &#8211; Penny Pritzker, that cost the Federal Government &#8211; <strong>taxpayers one billion dollars</strong> when Superior Bank failed, and 450 million dollars still owed to the FDIC &#8211; and they gave her 15 years to pay back &#8211; no interest. </p>
<p>The trail for this failure leads to Bear sterns whose bailout <strong>cost taxpayers 30 million.</strong></p>
<p>These questions need to be asked and answered. </p>
<p>Mr. Obama, why does she still have a principal financial role in your campaign?</p>
<p>Mr Obama, if Obama  elected will you waive this money owed?</p>
<p>Barack Obama talks how hundreds have lost in the sub prime mess.  It seems like the only person to come out well was his finance manager.  And he knows it.  Superior Bank of CHICAGO was a predatory lender, preying on some of the base that he counts on to elect him.</p>
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