Ladies, If You Didn’t Vote For Hillary…Why Are You Screaming About Your Rights Now?
By Ani on September 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Flip Flopping, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Michelle Obama, Sarah Palin, Sexism
In the summer of 2005, I had a conversation with two very close women friends about Hillary running for President. They waxed rhapsodic about how great she would be. While I agreed wholeheartedly, I was very cynical about her chances.
I said, “In the privacy of the voting booth, it is not men who will take her down. It is women. Not enough women will vote for her.”
The ones who will not vote for her are the ones who do not vote for themselves. And in the primary, this turned out to be the case. So you’ll understand when I get a big kick out of the women supporting Obama, celebrities and civilians alike, who are shouting at those of us who won’t fall in line…
But the Republicans will overturn Roe v. Wade!!!
…Uh, not likely. Eight years of Reagan and twelve years of the Bushies did not overturn stare decisis (well settled law) and I sincerely doubt that the moderate/maverick McCain/Palin ticket will.
Besides, ladies, if you were so worried about it, maybe you should have voted for the gal who has been showing up for our causes her whole life. Not the guy whose gonna love you and leave you…
Roe v. Wade allows for lots of saber rattling by both sides every four years to keep the respective party faithful in line. As if women are one issue voters and have nothing else on their minds; as if we really think this issue is on the forefront of anyone’s Presidential agenda. Please see Texas Hill Country’s wonderful piece on Roe v. McCain.
In fact, my progressive Hillary-supporter-to-the-death husband had this to say in response:
“…on the state of the women’s movement: if it is [only about] Roe, then women are in for a long haul. As a man, and an early supporter of NOW, I have long advocated for women to take their power.
Unfortunately, my wife was right when she said that Hillary’s undoing would come from women. It’s been women like Maureen Dowd and Arianna Huffington that led the bashing of Hillary. Until women are willing to believe in their own power, nothing will change for them.
Too many women are waiting to be told who to vote for, how to vote, and the younger ones don’t even know the history of the women’s movement or why they should care.
If the women of this country had come out in force for the smartest person running for president, Hillary would be set for the White House. She has paved the road for Sarah Palin and hopefully, Gov. Palin won’t drop the ball.
When I listen to arguments against Gov. Palin and they are “She can’t manage her own kids, how can she run the country?” it makes me want to puke.
Nobody says about Obumble: “He raised his kids in a church that taught them welcome to the KKK of America and God damn America with a wife who’s never been proud of the country, so how can he make positive choices for the country?”
…There are too many of us men who understand that we are not the arbiters of women’s bodies and have no right to tell them what they should do. We should be there in support to help make the best decision.”
Women are the most powerful voting block in this nation. If we unite, guess what – we’ll finally get an agenda passed and not listen when we are told to keep waiting in line. Obama certainly wants his women fans to wait in line…right, Sweetie?
Hillary’s policies were spot on, coherent and much more effective. She has a record on women’s rights that you can trust. Well?
“Oh, but he gives a great speech. He’s so brilliant!!!”
No. He’s got a brilliant teleprompter operator who keeps the copy flowing for him.
I had an experience recently that I found fascinating from a behavioral standpoint. I was in a room of 10 other professional women, all educated, all entrepreneurs who ranged in age from 28 to 60. A 50-ish woman announced that she needed to buy a new car. The leader of the group immediately said “take a man with you” – as if having a penis automatically means you are a mechanic, you are better able to negotiate a good deal and the salesmen will not screw with you.
Every other woman in that group nodded in agreement – except me. Now it so happens in our house, you want a good deal on a car – I’m your gal.
While this incident is by no means a generalization, I was disappointed to see smart women buying into an idiotic stereotype about themselves. I didn’t know doodle-y squat about cars – I went to the library. I got on the Internet. I figured it out. I am now a barracuda at the car dealership.
In re Hillary: How can women trust another woman if they don’t trust themselves?
You’ll pardon me if these are not the women I want telling me who I need to vote for. I had a 42 year old female Obama supporter say to my face that she thinks ‘Hillary is smarter, but Obama is for change.’ Ugh. I’m not even going to dignify that with a response.
This is even more painful because in my involvement this campaign season, I have been privileged to find among my new friends and colleagues the most amazing, powerful, savvy women who understand very clearly what we’re fighting for and why they wanted Hillary and not Obama. Likewise, the progressive men who stepped up just as solidly and courageously have made an otherwise incredibly infuriating experience that much less so. I applaud you all.
Another woman, 55, said she voted for Obama because ‘he’s cute.’ But look at his legislative record! His flip flops on FISA! NAFTA! Iraq! AIG! Women’s rights! Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell! Gay rights! Present votes, no votes, wrong votes! Lying about Revs. Wright, Pfleger and Meeks! Lying about Rezko, Auchi, Ayers!!
Blah blah blah, like talking to a wall.
“I like him. He’s just nice.”
I did not bother to inquire further.
And any women who trash either Senator Clinton or Governor Palin using sexist reasoning have no business telling me who is going to protect my rights when they are, by extension, slandering themselves every time they repeat these kinds of attacks.
Ironic that today, we have Michelle Obama having the equivalent of a fireside chat with a group in Charlotte, N.C. According to Associated Press
Michelle Obama asked voters Thursday to make their choice on the issues, not because, “I like that guy” or, “she’s cute.”
Might she be talking about Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin?
“I’m talking about me,” she said with a smile.
Cute? If Michelle is inferring that Governor Palin hasn’t got anything but ‘cute’ going for her, think again. This woman is living feminism – she has it all: family, husband, career. She is also living her principles whether you or I agree with all of them or not.
Michelle Obama is the last person who should be talking about ‘not voting for someone because they’re cute’ – she’s got the husband who walked into a Pennsylvania factory and offered a woman a kiss for a vote. How about if he ‘gets down on one knee,’ he said…
After a most questionable primary victory, no man who ignores 18,000,000 Hillary voters and tells the women to ‘get over it’ can convince me he gives a rosy red damn about my rights. No one who pays the women on his staff less than the men can convince me he gives a damn about equal pay and opportunity for women. And no man who behaves like a sexist on the campaign trail gets to force my vote for him in order to protect my reproductive freedom.
Pardon my dust but the words ‘trust’ and ‘Senator Obama’ don’t exactly go together comfortably in the same sentence.
Vote on the issues? If Senator Obama wanders too far from his teleprompter, he’s lucky he remembers what the issues are.
And I promise you ladies, he is not gonna remember YOU!!
Months ago, after I tried my best to impress upon the ‘nice, cute voter’ every argument regarding Obama’s problematic record and two-faced rhetoric, she voted ‘cute’ anyway.
Well, for those ladies who did the same and keep yelling at us to follow suit, frankly, I would feel much safer with a candidate I didn’t agree with half the time who actually told me what he stands for than a candidate who pretends to agree with everything I say, but when push comes to shove, will shove me under the bus along with the other ‘leave-behinds’ he has stepped over in his ultimate power grab.
The choice is yours. In voting for Obama, you may be choosing the label of “Democrat” but that is all you are getting. A label.
Obama’s so ‘progressive’ that he chose a safe, good ole sexist from the Senate, while McCain reached out to a maverick soul mate in Sarah Palin.
You see, the words ‘progressive’ and ‘Senator Obama’ don’t exactly go together either.
And beyond women’s rights, if you want to see a progressive and a true leader in action on the economic front, watch and read here.
The only true progressive in the race this year, the woman who brought us ‘a long way baby’ is back in New York, continuing to do her job, for women’s rights and for all of us.
Even though some of you didn’t give enough of a damn to reward her for it.
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relish
Obama’s Hypocrisy & Double Speak
I just found this video - quite apropos!
People are burning up about this~
Yeah - and THESE damned dummies will be the same ones hollering about Roe vs. Wade when McCain gets elected in November.
Yet Obama’s female supporters refused to support a woman candidate who has a proven track record of supporting women’s issues.
Let them holler. At the top of their lungs. We’re not listening to them.
I dare any of them to “get in my face” trying to make a case for Obama. They bettter stay the hell out of my face with that garbage.
That Was Then, This Is Now
By Doug
First, the New York Times, from July 3, 1984, on Geraldine Ferraro and the question of experience.
Where is it written that only senators are qualified to become President? Surely Ronald Reagan does not subscribe to that maxim. Or where is it written that mere representatives aren’t qualified, like Geraldine Ferraro of Queens? Representative Morris Udall, who lost New Hampshire to Jimmy Carter by a hair in 1976, must surely disagree. So must a longtime Michigan Congressman named Gerald Ford. Where is it written that governors and mayors, like Dianne Feinstein of San Francisco, are too local, too provincial? That didn’t stop Richard Nixon from picking Spiro Agnew, a suburban politician who became Governor of Maryland. Remember the main foreign affairs credential of Georgia’s Governor Carter: He was a member of the Trilateral Commission. Presidential candidates have always chosen their running mates for reasons of practical demography, not idealized democracy. One might even say demography is destiny: this candidate was chosen because he could deliver Texas, that one because he personified rectitude, that one because he appealed to the other wing of the party. On occasion, Americans find it necessary to rationalize this rough-and-ready process. What a splendid system, we say to ourselves, that takes little-known men, tests them in high office and permits them to grow into statesmen. This rationale may even be right, but then let it also be fair. Why shouldn’t a little-known woman have the same opportunity to grow? We may even be gradually elevating our standards for choosing Vice Presidential candidates. But that should be done fairly, also. Meanwhile, the indispensable credential for a Woman Who is the same as for a Man Who - one who helps the ticket.
(Emphasis added by NewsBusters.org.)
And now, the New York Times, from September 11, 2008, on Sarah Palin and the question of experience.
It is well past time for Sarah Palin, Republican running mate, governor of Alaska and self-proclaimed reformer, to fill in for the voting public the gaping blanks about her record and qualifications to be vice president.
[...]
Voters have a right to hear Ms. Palin explain in detail her qualifications to be standby president with no national or foreign policy experience. More is required of any serious candidate for such a high office than one interview with questions put by one selected source.
The paper of record can’t seem to get its story straight. Any wonder the old media is losing its credibility?
http://stonescryout.org/
Ani
Wow! What a post! The best read in town! It is this ingratitude and utter disregard for the public service record of HIllary by her own party and Obama’s own misogyny (youtube: “OBama Gives Hillary the Finger”) that will kill the Democratic Party.
Hillary deserves respect and the votes of those doing the respecting. Obama defrauded the caucuses and won in Iowa by default. His lawers made sure the votes in Michigan and Florida didnh’t count!
The media misogynist frat-boys vilified Hillary. Matthews and Olberman and McCafferty degraded her. But her own party destroyed her chances and stole the nomination for the cute camouflaged Misogynist PigObama!
But Hillary’s legacy is alive and well. She’s rewriting HIstory until one day we can say with pride:
‘WOMENS’ RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS ARE WOMEN’S RIGHTS’
Don’t expect Obamarama to utter these words. Expect him to dust women off his shoulders and scrape them like excrement (as he did his fellow female Senator) off his shoes. He is a distunging old-time Male Sexist Pig in new rapper-wannabe clothing!
oops, I’m not qualified to comment about this. anyway, very good point, ani.
Oh, sure you are. Chime on in.
I’m with Ani (great article, by the way). Chime on in, benny, I’m going to.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again to my liberal women acquaintances; if you didn’t come to Hillary’s defense when she was getting bashed daily with sexist remarks, you don’t get to bitch about Sarah.
Just what kind of woman candidate are many Democratic women waiting for? I mean, it’s not like shopping for shoes where there are thousands of choices in hundreds of colors. And don’t jump on me–as a gay man who LOVES shoe shopping, I can say that. There were/are two choices of women in this election cycle and neither met/meet with their approval. Instead, an unqualified, lying, flip-flopping, law-breaking, caucus-gaming man did/does. Come on. And even if there had been thousands of choices in the election, Hillary Clinton would have still been the best sling-back pumps around.
Shoooooes. Italian leather, stiletto heeled pumps…or over-priced, brand name, rubber flip flops…hmmmmm. What to choose, what to choose?
yeap
too late to bitch now
ya’ll COULDA had HILLARY!
Sarah will do just fine. MIght actually give Hillary a run for her money in 2012 (should I live that long).
John McCain will be much better than Bush (that is my FIRST most IMMEDIATE requirement of the next President and VP)
MUST be better than BUSH/CHAINSAW
McCain/Palin is light years above that.
Maybe not a Hillary/Clark dream but the flipside of the coin with as much Honor!
I’ll take it. For now.
anyday over bambi
(saw a few more of his bumper stickers today, even one Veteran for Obama which made me wanna hurl)
not one McCain/Palin bumpersticker
what’s up TEAM MACK??? Send us out some stickers here in Western NC will ya?
I’m in NC and I’ve seen some.
Saw online where Obamabi was figuring on getting all of the black vote here. To win he’d need just 36% of the white vote, but he’s not getting 30%!
Ironic in this year of “change” all we talk about is white vote and black vote.
perhaps that is “the change”
after all even Einstein said you can ONLY travel BACK in time, never forward. It’s a cosmic law!
Bambi is taking us way back in time.
Call McCain Headquarters they have them for free when you walk in the door.
Hi Dawnelle, Just wanted to let you know that most of the people who put McCain/Palin bumper stickers on their vehicles have been vandalized. Their tires slashed, key scratches on their paint, windshields damaged, etc. Also, people putting McCain/Palin signs in their yards also seem to “go missing.” Just thought I would give you a heads up.
If you have a mom, gf, wife or any women you care about, you are more than qualified to comment.
And, the media continues to throw the race card in attempting to force Senator Obama’s selection as President.
It is time for people to respond en masse to let these media outlets know that we are tired of their manipulation of the news. If you are concerned, you can start by reading this article:
Washington Post Faults McCain For Relying On…Washington Post
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
and replying to Deborah Howell, the Ombudsman at The Washington Post, here:
ombudsman@washpost.com
If we all remain silent on this type of advocacy journalism and race-baiting we will get the President we deserve…a scary thought indeed.
I have been hoping a post would go up here about how they are calling McCain’s ad racist, but it is yet another post about Hillary and how the woman’s groups only back women that stand for what they stand for…things move fast and you have to cover what is happening now or you lose…I give up…
Stay tuned later this afternoon for the topic you requested.
Do you realize how much damage gets done in the meantime?…If we don’t stay on top of things we will be saying President O
Below I post a story about Biden lying about his wife’s death and how he is hurting the family of the man who has since died and can’t speak out against Biden.
a link to the story…
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/09/biden-attacks-defensless.html
Give them a chance to type it out.
Read what I posted above and do something please.
The MSM is set to get their new Democratic president, and then viewership and sales will go up and up for the next 4 years. Too bad ad revenue will go down and down. Well, those in the top spots now don’t care. Sorry for those who are coming behind. They may have to wait and wait and wait, who knows, maybe 20 years.
If this keeps up, the Fairness Doctrine is going to start looking awfully good to Republicans.
karma comes back to everyone
has no preferential party to repay
it’s a beautiful thing to witness (and experience)
glad to know there are others like me who don’t automatically jump into which ever colored box even though they will be bashed by their OWN party for trying to “KEEP IT REAL”
for the love of PETE!!!!!
argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq7DGTggpx0
McCain has a second ad out, featuring Jim Johnson, his ex-VP vetter. That’s the link above.
It’s the Post writing staff that’s the problem. The editorial board took a swipe at them indirectly today with their op-ed favoring McCain as a regulator.
Excellent post! And I’m proud to say that my husband, also, feels exactly the same way. In fact, when Sarah Palin was chosen, my husband, a life-long Democrat, got so overwhelmed with emotion that he got teary-eyed and couldn’t speak. He knew what that choice by John McCain meant to so many of us women! That’s an image I will forever hold dear to me, and one that I can thank Senator MCain for making possible.
God Bless Sarah Palin!
God Bless John McCain!
God Bless Pumas!
And God Bless America!
Your husband obviously should seek counseling for his obvious issues. Crying over a politician, especially on who against every tenant he was “lifelong” for…And you say we’re deluded…um OK???
No, joe bob, diluted, not deluded. The Democratic Party has been so diluted with Obama Kool-Aid, that it is no longer recognizable by its life-long supporters.
Deluded would be reading the above article and thinking it makes sense.
Um, President’s can’t overturn Roe. Congress would need a Constitutional Amendment to overturn Roe. Very difficult to do.
No, it will be the Supreme Court that will overturn Roe. They are one judge away. Thomas, Scalia, Alito, Roberts and the next judge nominated by St. McCain if he wins.
Those five will be all it takes and Roe will be gone forever.
Period.
The judge McCain/Palin will nominate will not deign to provide congress with a “litmus test” answer to a question like abortion. Congress cannot simply refuse to affirm every judge McCain puts up.
Justice Stevens is 88 years old.
This is not a scare tactic. This is cold reality.
By the way, the most conservative Justice, Antonin Scalia, has stated in re Roe v Wade that he would not fly in the face of stare decisis -well settled law — just like it says in the article. You might want to review what that means.
Overturning this precedent is a helluva lot more complicated for the Supreem Court to do than you would think — stop with the scare tactics.
My uterus is not to be used to control my vote.
McCain Palin 08
joe bob: your post of 13:01:05 -
“It’s like you people are children. It’s like you need common sense and facts explained very very slowly”.
Please forgive my childish mind and explain what is meant in your post of 13:03:03 (what a busy little bee you are!) by
“on who against every tenant he was lifelong for”
Are you referring to the tenants of the rumored seven McCain properties? Or could you be struggling to find the word ‘tenet’, which might make a little more sense of your incoherent sentence?
My husband and I cried when Obama & his Pod Dems stole the nomination.
Since I don’t watch tv — I’m so grateful to Paul and other’s who go beyond the call of duty and post the important interviews or speeches.
I watched Sarah Palin’s interviews and her current stump speech. Although she is NOT Hillary Clinton she really is very different from the guys who are running President or VP. I don’t agree with her on everything but she seems to have a lot of common sense which seems to be missing is a lot of politicians.
And yes Sarah IS a feminist — no question.
One idiot so called feminist called the people who are voting for McCain & Palin — white trash. As if there cannot be a wide variety of feminist –the non cookie cutter feminists. I guess this is what has been a put off with the “organized” feminists — the members are expected to follow the “feminist” line. This is merely substitution one form of conformist ideology with the old male dominated group think.
My husband did the same thing! I looked over at him and he had tears running down his cheeks when McCain announced Palin as his running mate. When I asked him why he was crying he said “because I know how much Hillary meant to you and how hard you fought for her and I think this woman is strong like Hillary. I think you’ll like her” and I do.
Hillary 2012 but for right now, McCain/Palin
Great article — and yes women are women’s worst enemies.
I saw this long ago when women voted against the ERA — WOMEN!
Ani, EXACTLY!!! Your title says everything. They let go of a well qualified candidate and now they are afraid.. and want us to help them in defending their rights?? The nerve of them.
All my friends who voted for Obama in the primaries are up in arms frantic now that Palin has come onto the scene. I reply, “I told you so!”
It’s so amusing that you state this, um who does HRC think is best on these issues??? it’s like you people are children. It’s like you need common sense and facts explained very very slowly…
HRC is best on these issues. But she didn’t get the nod. WE are free to disagree with HRC’s assessment of Obama. He’s not the best on these issues. After all, he couldn’t help people in his own district in Chicago as a State Senator against a predatory slumlord -Rezko anyone?
He makes promises he doesn’t keep Fisa, campaign finance etc. So now he’s all for women? Odd, he had nothing to say when HRC was being referred to as a b*tch and a wh*re. He’s all for women but he pays he own female staffers less.
Unlike Obama followers we don’t do as we’re told.
“his own”
Obama has more accomplishments on issues that are of particular concern to women than you can count on his middle finger.
Rob Chicago
Obama’s accomplishment agreed are many! Just watch his JayC rapper-wannabe cool act in youtube’s mega hit:
“Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” –dusting her off and scraping off his shoes as if his fellow female senatore were ….excrement!
Yup! That is change we can believe in. And what those moronic women who voted Obama will be getting in due course!
Only Hillary ‘gets’ it! The rest of these misogynist creeps running for office are…xeroxed copies with vitriol!
But Obama gave the nod for his surrogates and Brown Shirts to call HRC a Bitch and Whore! He also flipped her off and pretended to dust her off his shoulders. Very presidential!
Proving once again that “trash” comes in all colors.
trixta
You said it! Obama gets the camouflaged Misogynist Pig of the Year Award! But Sweetie will see the DNC ceiling explode on his duplicitous face via the milion of HIllary cracks that will shatter it soon…
You mean HRC’s current publically stated assessment of Obama. Remember, she’s only saying what she HAS to say, otherwise the DNC would probably destroy her.
I think you need to stop drinking that Obama koolaid! How old are you 18? At 18 you brain hasn’t even developed enough to give you a rational opinion. As far as McCain’s record goes you obviously don’t know the political history of John McCain. He is the total opposite of Bush and frankly Obama. You sound like a programed Obama robot.
This is an excellent article. Whats sad for me is why no one is listening ? Ohhhh….I forgot….he’s cute.
No, he’s not. He seems like the classic geeky guy, nerd to me. He doesn’t even have a nice butt. Too skinny, big ears, can’t form a sentence.
Unless you mean he’s bow-legged? I didn’t notice that about him.
WOW, McCain has put out something like 6 ads today.
All going very hard at obama.
And all true.
Sarah Palin took it to obama for his”get in their face” remark yesterday saying that is not the politics of change “it is politics at its worst”
I agree.
McCain/Palin rally just ended and they have awesome message to push. Mac’s economic adress this morning was clear,specific, and had a great deal of focus on the middle class.
If McCain continues his populist message he will win.
He has a message that will resonate in the rust belt.
Fighting corruption is something alot of states are dealing with in their government.
My favorite, because it’s close to my heart, is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQwsxHiaY0
Obama: He loves America-haters
getting my popcorn ready, with extra butter.
Patriotic Act
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpb4ldtsFz4&feature=user
Everyone should go on Drudge and watch this video “Blacks Against Obama’ Interrupt Campaign Rally”
Barack Obama’s campaign rally in Coral Gables, Florida Friday was interrupted by a group of about 10 African-American protesters holding signs that called themselves, “Blacks Against Obama.”
The signs said Obama was for gay marriage and abortion, and said his candidacy was “endorsed by the KKK.” Another sign said, “Jesse Jackson hates Obama.”
Obama originally said the protesters could stay inside the event, but they were escorted out when they would not stop shouting.
This is so funny!
I don’t trust this.
I think this is an attempt by the 0bama campaign to appear as it 0bama is not being supported by 95% of the AA community. It gives him the opportunity to distance himself from the kind of thinking that he is so pro-Black Liberation Theology.
I wish there were other kinds of protests. Calling him a LIAR would make my day. And calling him out on the things the media won’t touch.
Maybe these people are sincere, but to say that 0bama was endorsed by the KKK, makes them look ridiculous.
I’d much prefer them to have signs asking: “What have you done, 0bama for the Black Community.”
The answer:
ZILCH!
You may be right on this, but I heard that the white supremest groups do want Obama to win. They say their membership will go way up if Obama wins. Who knows, but I wouldn’t doubt that AA Christians would have a difficult time supporting Obama with his favorable views on late term abortion and the killing of newborns who survived a late term abortion.
if that’s about the group from St. Pete, Fla? then it’s For REAL!
I’m originally (or most of my life) from that area….
I think they are mad indeed.
No, Downelle.
This happened today in Coral Gables.
The St. Pete incident was weeks ago, well before
the convention. If you’re from this area (I’m
in downtown St. Pete), the protesters here were
UHURUS…..I suppose you know who THEY are.
They held up banners wanting to know what OZero
would do for AAs. They were escorted OUT.
BAD MOVE.
UHURUS HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE AROUND HERE
You can google for pictures, they’re still there.
yep those are the ones I thought they meant
(couldn’t spell it) lol UHURUS
Coral Gables (wrong area) sorry
wow so he has 2 groups now messing up his rallies
about time
I know McCain got some in Iowa yesterday.
but it didn’t sound like there were any in Minnesota (today)
I don’t like when they won’t stop. I mean they can make their point but to keep doing it is just selfish and (media) whorish
Pretty funny. I thought he wanted to get bad with them, but since they’re black he really couldn’t.
You know what I think? I think we need back the Karl Rove, Grinch, and nasty SOBs that when everytime a pin dropped in the Democrats circle of scandals, they would come out like lions. Now, what we have a bunch of “gosh…I don’t want to say or be nasty because I will be called a racist.” The hell with that! Get your dirtest gloves on and dismantle this liberal socialist once in for all.! Who the hell do you think is going to be the strong leader while the Russian are making love to Chavez?? They are planning large missile towards us because we are helping the Georgians. Do you actually believe this skinny big ear clown is going to help us? He probably go and get in a corner and smoke crack in his nervousness. Get your hands dirties for crying outloud! Who cares if you are seen as racist. It is our country that we need to protect not the “alarming riots” that they keep threatening us with. They want to do riots- fine- shoot all of them in the legs and put them all in jail for the next 20 years. I am not in a good mood today- I can see the deceits of polls everywhere!
Michelle Obama is amazing (not). If you have seen the video of her talking about “you should for for “her” because she’s cute” - she then tried to cover by claiming in the next sentence “and I’m talking about me” - you will see a disgruntled, very negative, and yes, jealous woman. Michelle, good try, but we know you were talking about Palin. You are not running for office, even if you wish you were. Your jealousy makes you look ugly (something that happens to even the most beautiful of people - and you are not one of them). Your soul shines in your eyes, Michelle, and when you are caught in an unguarded moment, like when you watched with baleful eyes and a grimace as Hillary spoke at the Democratic convention - your true spirit shines through.
She looks like Jaws.
One may think that is funny or clever or something but if she gets to the WH, this things will have a impact on our culture. Lying will be in, honesty out. And that will include market trading. So if you have seen bad, then you’ll see much worse.
Correction to my posting. Barry and Michelle = Bush 3.
yea we thought watching the Bush Brats and all their partying and BIRD FLIPPING was bad???
HA!
the CIC and his WIFE will be the ones telling MIDDLE (mostly RED STATE) American to FK OFF!!
Hell they already have. Judging from HISTORY………… and you know the rest of the story.
and they think we’re a bunch of dopes???
um NOPE
NOBAMA NEVA NO NO!
No one believes that she was talking about herself. She and Barack are certainly soul mates because they both like to make the sly, disrepectful dig and then say, “Who me?” Disgusting!
NObama’s strategy is Divide and Conquer and rig the vote.
Women are pitted against women.
Blacks are pitted against blacks.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=178233
This will backfire. Americans will unite in the privacy of the voting booths to Just Say NObama.
http://www.rallycongress.com/americansentinel/1223/a-call-for-hearings-into-senator-barack-obamas-violation-of-the-logan-act/
Everybody sign up for a call for hearings into BO’s violation of the logan act.
Done and done.
Cool - you get it hand-delivered to all your congressionals for $9.00 - $3.00 apiece
I just did it. The bad news is that all my reps are (California) democrats - in the tank for barky, of course - we need some congressional republicans on this!
Mine are—get this, Obama and Durbin (and Johnson).
I sent it anyway.
Wow, great post, thank you. Well said.
Yesterday I saw Bill Clinton talking, in CNBC, about our economic problems. He was dead on with his analysis. But, more importantly, he credited as the best solution that of Hillary’s. Men who are confident are the best advocates for strong women. I do not let the girls screaming about Palin get under my skin, and I do not help them by repeating their spittle. I am confident..
.. that she (Palin) knows a lot more about national issues than do I. Therefore I will firmly defend her.
OT. Next time a Time or CNN sweety picks on Sara remember, Time-Warner, who owns CNN, is the 15th largest contributor to Obama. They are just putting their mouth where their money is.
Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families.
Now I just had a sick vision. Obama on a stage with a pole, dancing in a thong. The left, left, left gals with dollar bills between their teeth trying to .. No. I can’t go on. Gotta go wash the fingers that just tried to type that.
Now that was a banning offense. Yeeeeesh. Blech. Patooey.
Gee - thanks for the visual.
(LOL!) - YUCK!!
Thanks for another well-written essay, Ani. You’ve become one of my favourite bloggers ever. It’s uncanny how often and how deeply I have agreed with your ideas and opinions. Thank you for putting down your excellent thoughts for those of us lacking in such lucid eloquence.
Hah, the ‘candidate X and candidate Y’ quip of Bill C. was referenced there! On CNN, Bill C. again did a tepid supposed support for BH0, saying he thinks he’ll win…unless something happens in the debates…etc. etc. Love that Bill Clintong!
Thank you once again for this!
As I’ve been saying to many friends and colleagues lately, this is not about Roe v. Wade. It’s about Love v. Hate: Love of life, love of family, love of country, love of happiness - against hate of life, hate of family, hate of America, hate of happiness.
With a Hillary-McCain contest, we would have had a choice between two people who truly love their country. But the choice we now have is between a worldview of America-haters, who support Obama, and of America-lovers. Tens of millions of people of love America have still not realized that they may be supporting the MoveOn-Kos people, whose lives are filled with hate: they have shown it again with Sarah Palin, whom they began to hate even before they had known her.
I choose Love - I choose McCain.
Naral’s endorsement of Obama during the primaries is a perfect example of women not supporting eachother. And it is why I do not have any respect for the women and women’s organizations that did not support Hillary Clinton and are now trying to scare us into voting for Obama by using the abortion card. As Madeleine Albright said “There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.”
EMILY’s List Trashes NARAL for Obama Endorsement
by Jason Horowitz | May 14, 2008 | Tags: PoliticsBarack ObamaEllen MalcolmEMILY’s ListHillary ClintonNARAL
EMILY’s List, which supports Hillary Clinton, reacts harshly to what it calls the “tremendously disrespectful” endorsement of Barack Obama by NARAL.
The following is a statement from EMILY’s List president Ellen R. Malcolm on NARAL’s endorsement in the Democratic presidential competition:
“I think it is tremendously disrespectful to Sen. Clinton - who held up the nomination of a FDA commissioner in order to force approval of Plan B and who spoke so eloquently during the Supreme Court nomination about the importance of protecting Roe vs. Wade - to not give her the courtesy to finish the final three weeks of the primary process. It certainly must be disconcerting for elected leaders who stand up for reproductive rights and expect the choice community will stand with them.”
Thanks, MC1, for posting that.
Amazing how many women forget which candidate actually stood up for them and their daughters.
Obama has done nothing by comparison.
And he will do nothing for the advancement or protection of women.
Thanks for another well-written essay, Ani. You’ve become one of my favourite bloggers ever. It’s uncanny how often and how deeply I have agreed with your ideas and opinions. Thank you for putting down your excellent thoughts for those of us lacking in such lucid eloquence.
Hah, the ‘candidate X and candidate Y’ quip of Bill C. was referenced there! On CNN, Bill C. again did a tepid supposed support for BH0, saying he thinks he’ll win…unless something happens in the debates…etc. etc. Love that Bill Clinton!
Thank you once again for this!
Spot on, ANi. Here in Obama-Land in Northern CA I’m surrounded by women young and old (boomers, like me) who detested Hillary and would never vote for her. And they are now so INSULTED by McCain’s pick of Palin I really have to wonder.
I like to say my 88 yr old father was the first feminist I knew–he treated me the same as my brothers. I was at Berkeley during the women’s lib movement so I just don’t understand the vitriol against Sen Clinton or Gov Palin by women.
I echo your statement; you may not agree with everything Palin thinks BUT isn’t she a walking image of real feminism?
She had a public school education; she credits Title IX for her early opportunities; she hunts with her father; she’s run a family fishing business with her husband; her husband seems like a real partner at home and at work; he hasn’t minded her income or status; she worked her way up to governor without family or corporate friends; she actually took on the corp interests and bums in BOTH parties; and she’s a Governor.
I think the “elitist” women I know look down on her speech patterns but she reminds me of the people I know in Iowa where my husband grew up. Decent hardworking people who mow their elderly neighbor’s lawn without asking and clear their driveways in the winter; who plan the annual 4th of July parades; who visit ALL the people from their hometown when they go to see their own relatives in a nursing home; who drive 4 hours for someone’s 90th birthday party. Good people.
Palin did well in the debates for governor. I just hope she does well against Biden. That might convince people who aren’t sure of her intellect.
I think Palin is a walking example of feminism and a damn good one too. I thought feminism was women being liberated and having choices?? Here she is a Mom w a great husband who helps w the kids, supports her ambitions while having his own, she’s a Governor and now VP nominee….I don’t know if these feminists are just narrow minded or jealous. Some are just friggin’ twits-voting for someone because they are cute?? Women like that watch The View….
I love this line:
I like to say my 88 yr old father was the first feminist I knew–he treated me the same as my brothers.
bayareavoter
What a beautifully expressed post….It is the plain, strong, thoughtful family people that Barack’s hordes are calling “bitter” and “racists”
Barack said “antipathy to those not like them” So he could only have meant “racists”.
Wonder how many people repeat BHO’s words to the letter and understand that he said not only ‘bitter and clinging to guns and religion’ and “have an antipathy to those not like them”—WHICH TRANSLATES INTO CALLING SMALL TOWN FOLK BITTER RACISTS WHO CLING TO THEIR RELIGION AND GUNS!
Shame on Hussein! Hillary is rewriting History by making sure we begin to treat WOMEN’S RIGHTS as HUMAN RIGHTS!!!
Hillary’s the only one worthy of the President’s job. The rest of the monkeys running in both of the elephantitis-ridden useless misogynist-pig parties are just….xeroxed copies!
It is sad. A woman was chosen as the nominee of the Kadima party to be the head of Israel. When numerous other nations (including third-world nations)had or have women as heads of state, why is the U.S left behind? Look at the way they harassed Hillary, and now Palin. Look at what Palin had to go through. the media talks about her being an unfit mother (she gave into her stupid beliefs and deliberately gave birth to a down syndrome baby, which no democrat would do), she has too many kids( a democratic way of saying barefoot and pregnant), is devious (they mean bitchish), is a reformer (she can’t accept that men ultimately controls government). I think Palin is taking too much flak just cos she is a woman who has shown what equality really means.
well said…
Didn’t even TURKEY have a female leader for a time. A muslem country.
Why does Joe Biden lie about a ‘drunk driver’ killing his 1st wife?
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/09/biden-attacks-defensless.html
Biden is as full of shit as Obama.
Anyone who has lost someone in a car accident (regardless of it involving alcohol) NEVER forgets the details of what happened.
For him to LIE after he is called out on it and say that he doesn’t remember the details is beyond appalling.
It seems like the truck driver had a more difficult time dealing with this accident that Joe! I read that his family stated that the anniversary of that accident and the Christmas holiday was a difficult time for him for the rest of his life.
Joe, he just hops on the train and loves to tell this story so it pulls at the heart strings of people.
Sorry Joe - this is one person who has lived the nightmare of losing a loved one in a car accident (Yes, involving alcohol) and will never forget the details.
I share something with that truck driver in that Christmas has never been the same for me either.
Here is a link to the story about Joe the liar:
http://www.delawaregrapevine.com/12-07bidencrash.asp
good lord girl…this post ROCKS!! Your husband is a jewel as well..you’re so lucky to have such a logical and together partner. thank you for writing this…you made so many excellent points I can’t name them all!!
You rock right back. Thank you for your comments. And yes, I am very lucky. Hubby rocks, too.
I don’t know what I would have done in a house divided this year. He has been completely solid in his support for Hillary from day one.
He also pegged Obama as Bush3 a long, long time ago.
I just saw Obama on TV talking to women in Mia saying how he was all for women and Mc Cain did not want them to get equal pay, and Mc Cain was after their rights. Obama wanted them to vote for him because he was all for them, he knows their problems.
I sat and watched these women shaking their signs, clapping and shouting for Obama, but I wondered how many of them asked their selves, if Obama was so for women and understood all that they needed why did he not pick Hillary for VP?
Obama did not want to be the one that gave a woman a chance to reach the second highest office in government, what a mark that would of been if the Democrats were to win this election and Obama would of gotten praised for his foresight and trust in putting a woman on the ticket.
Obama refused to do that yet he has the gall to talk to women and pretend that he is all for them, the only man that in this election has given a women a chance to shatter that glass ceiling is Mc Cain, its just sad that some of these silly women sitting in that audience listening to Obama did not think about that.
Women need to quit looking for someone to save them and STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES!! Cripes, no wonder we get treated like shit w these half twits like the women on the view running around like they don’t have a friggin’ brain in their head.
serious ^5 (high five) on that!
Obama’s speech/press conference this morning (up on youtube - oops I just closed the link). Anyway, here are some ACTUAL quotes from the great orator himself, Obama:
??????????????????
He can’t even string together two complete sentences… WITHOUT HIS TELEPROMPTER.
I was looking at that speech on utube from this morning, man can the people who support this guy not hear how dumb he sounds?
I just cant believe that people say he is brilliant, he could sure fool me not what I was looking at videos don’t lie, the man was like a uhh ah uhhh uh to every answer no wonder they need him with a teleprompter without it my god its hilarious.
He is reckless in coming out with these statements as stupid and ill pronounced as they are only 1/2 hr. after the President’s. Who does he thinks he is?
I love this post. So true! Full of great talking points. Thanks Ani!
This is off topic but I wanted to pass this around:
YouTube video I read about in the Wall Street Journal today: “Dear Mr. Obama” — Iraq war veteran in a simple but compelling and powerful criticism of BO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
wow
I had never seen this before
The end brought tears to my eyes
Yeah, everything that “wodiej” above just wrote!
You write GREAT posts Ani!
Thank you
Interesting article. There are women I’m ashamed to be in the same sex with. But on the other hand, I know I can do or learn to do anything, there are some things I don’t want to have to do.
Like the “take a man with you” on the buying a car thing. Sadly, I have noticed that as far as autos go, I just have my husband handle it, because they talk down to me, try to railroad me and sometimes succeed in ripping me off because I’m not an auto expert. I don’t want to be.
Maybe I’m one of those in the article that needs to work on that…lol.
Ever notice how many women McCain has surrounded himself with, and always has during this campaign. Flip that coin to the gang of women Obama wanted to assemble to combat Palin’s bump when she was sprung on them.
OT, but does anyone else think the ganging up on Palin is what happen to the polls? They are behind a few days, right?
I can believe the economy, too, but I think Biden laid some stink bombs this week.
Great article, Ani.
Hillary was my candidate of choice because she has a record of standing up for what I believe in. I trusted her to do the things she said she was committed to because of her track record and tireless work on those issues over many years. She has action behind her words.
When I am asked why I do not support Obama like Hillary has asked me to do, I think that person is missing half of their brain.
The (un)Democratic Party is responsible for fronting this person that I do not know or trust. He has no firm track record to suggest where his commitments truly lie. His actions in the past do not match his rhetoric.
Hillary choose to stay loyal to her party that is supposed to have a platform that includes human rights issues (GLBT, civil, women and children). She has invested years of hard work on behalf of that party and she is fighting to save it. She is doing it her way, I will do it mine.
and what I posted above is what I see. and its pathetic. If this goes on, it’ll be difficult for women to run as heads of state. what nonsense! Palin is supposed to be responsible for her daughters pregnancy. utter stupidity! why doesn’t anyone talk about Bidens sons problems? Ohhh, hes a man. The mother is responsible for that issue. lets not touch that. what hypocrisy!!!! Hey Chelsea, remain cool. cos Hillary is gonna win in 2012, and the press is gonna give her a hard time. I already feel sad for Chelsea, cos I imagine what the MSM will try and accuse her with.
OMG, parents are suppossed to be responsible for their minors mistakes, wow…You’re right, I mean especially when they run on a family values platform, I can’t believe people would actually expect them to take responsibility for their own, perish the thought. thanks, I have now seen the light;)
On the car issue….I don’t take any man with me. By the time I get done w those car salesman they are wishing they were dealing w them. I do like Ani does…go on the internet, do my research and then go in armed w knowledge. Oh, they will try to mess w me but I just let them know right up front that i am not a fool.
Good for you. I actually have a woman car dealer now…but I made a mistake buying a vehicle before her from a man. Didn’t know for sure what I wanted, it was a spur of the moment thing, so I probably paid more than I should of. I knew after it was over I got the salesman treatment, where they leave you in their office, go have a coke and come back and tell you they tried to get you a better deal but they couldn’t.
And you know what the worst part about it was? The salesman was MY NEPHEW! My sleazy brother-in-law taught him well.
Great post Ani. When I wore my Hillary button, I had a woman say to me, “why her, because she is a woman?” I was also witness to a woman recounting proudly how when asked by a group of men for whom she voted, she responded “oBlah” and the men cheered her. She was so proud of herself for voting against herself, and I was so disgusted.
There are more stories like these and when I think of them, I can only feel sadness.
omg…that says it all…so proud for voting against herself! I think alot of women are just brainwashed…been trained since childhood to believe they are second to men. I am very fortunate…I come from a long line of feisty women…I continue the heritage and am proud of it.
The liberals sold their souls this year. It’ll take decades to earn the public trust back after the BO fiasco in November.
Is it just me or does Bill Burton (spokes hole for Obama) look like Howard Stern’s baba booey?
LOL…I don’t know what Bill Burton looks like..
I can’t stand him! He wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face and called him Daddy.
The DIJ stopped its upward spiral right after Obambi ended his stupid press conference following the President’s.
Thank you Obambi. Thank you.
To Obambi: Are you happy now?
Great post Ani. I always wonder why women are that way. I see it at work. Women hate women that get ahead, get promoted. I never understood why they were that way.
low self esteem….which is attribute to not standing up for yourself.
Oh give me a break. Just because Palin is ignorant to the concept of birth control, and foolishly teaches her daughter to become a baby machine like herself, doesn’t render her a leader of women’s rights. My God, the wackjob believes in force pregnancies for victims of rape and incest!I hope all of you women who’re planning to vote McCain clue your daughters and granddaughters in on that little tad of info.
Morons. Absolute morons.
Don’t forget charging for kits, that’s something that should really worry anyone with sanity
You mean the same ones they charge for in almost every ER in the country, INCLUDING in Illinois? The same way they charge for stitches for a knifing victim, or a surgical tray for a gunshot victim? Those rape kits?
Oooooooo, but you Obots have to scare dem wimminz! I’m quaking and clutching my uterus, cantcha tell?
I agree with you joe bob, Obama is something that should really worry anyone with sanity.
Good talking point joe bob! You memorized your lines well. Too bad it’s completely distorted and inaccurate. Most cities charge for kits to reimburse hospitals and clinics so they will not go under, and if the person cannot pay, the state does. Also, the Chief of Police is responsible for this decision. Nice try though. Go back to your Axelrod manual and study some more.
you dumb ass
if that’s all you are worried about……….. keep your damn legs shut for the next 4 yrs!!!
YOU SHOULD Have CONSIDERED THIS BEFORE GETTING BEHIND BAMBI!!
Sarah is ALLOWED her right and has NEVER tried to push it down anyone’s throat! DO YOUR FRIGGEN HOMEWORK!!! AND DONT FK AROUND UNPROTECTED (AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 4 YRS)
then please feel free to pick up any old disease (and perhaps drop DEAD)
Oh God, please don’t say “getting behind Bambi”. That’s nasty.
chuckle
oops sorry! HA!
Dawnelle, in spite of your enlightening commentary, don’t you have some trash to clean up outside of the trailer?
pahaha! you make me wish I still lived in one
we do what we have to do to survive
I admire people that have “experienced” all sides of life and have survived to tell about it!
YOU apparently have such a shallow life it doesn’t bear much relevance here
shoo fly
bambi’s got a fresh paper cup full of delusion for you back in the hood - no,no,no, not the US of A but the gdam US of KKKA! pFttttttttt! I don’t THINK so.
and pull your pants up while you’re leaving
that crack you’re showing is N A S T Y
I have never seen black people referred to as “trailer trash”. Ghetto, maybe, but never trailer trash.
I think you, Roxanne, have some major racial issues of your own, and if you think voting for Obama is going to automatically cure them, you’re in for a sad, sad surprise.
LOL!! Preach Dawnelle!!
These sleazebags didn’t give a damn about choice when they were trashing Hillary and kissing Obama’s kneecaps during the primaries, so don’t give a damn now!
I agree with you totally, Roxanne - Obama is an absolute moron.
Ahhh. You prove our point so well. “A baby making machine.” You obviously have such respect for ALL women and their choices. As long as those choices resemble your own.
p.s. study Palin’s record. She does not impose her morality on her constituents, and has repeatedly said so. It is “up to the people.” ie: if 75% of the American public support abortion rights, she respects that. You reactionary comments only reveal your own bigotry and ignorance.
Wow…Obots really are an IGNORANT breed. Should Roe v. Wade be overturned….I would just take the girl to a state that allows abortion. I don’t give a hoot if Roe is overturned. THAT is now the FEMALE OBOT’S PROBLEM! Moron! Absolute MORON!
You freakin’ had a pro-choice, female candidate who has spent her entire freakin’ life fighting for the rights of women and you and your IGNORANT 20-something Female OBOT mindless wonders chose the candidate who’s “cute” or offered “hope and change” (what a crock of pure shit) instead! So, don’t you fucking DARE lecture ME about the rights of women. YOU chose to throw them away, not me. MORON.
You hit the nail on the head. Roe v Wade is just another wedge issue in their bag of tricks to divert the electorate’s attention from the real issues which must be promptly addressed. The young voters of this country are truly naive if they think Oblahblah is a candidate worthy of the office for which he is running. They can bring up all the irrelevant claptrap they want but it still leaves their candidate unfit and unqualified. They are indeed, morons.
Apparantly there is something wrong with women doing what is biologically natural for them?
Since when is having children bad?
Palin chose to have 5 children.
Palin’s daughter could have gotten an abortion without her mom knowing. SHe chose to take responsibility for her actions. Why do you hate women who love children?
I’m very disappointed with Nancy Pelosi. I thought that she might be different. The leadership of the democratic party remins me old men in a smoke-filled room. Ofcourse they take for granted the women-vote. they know that their pro-choice stance will always bring around any woman. nancy has become one of the guys now. sad…..but true
ALERT ALERT!
ROXANNE IS A TROLL!!!!
I think Joe Bob is too. My guess is that Obama is paying Joe Bob more than Roxanne.
And joe bob, as well. They’re tag teaming it.
Mary, do you support forced pregnancies for rape and incest victims? Do you support them having to also pay for their rape kits? If you do, you should be disgusted and ashamed of yourself.
so are you saying the a raped woman should be raped until she is forcibly impregnated? Because I don’t think I don’t think anybody is for that.
Your attempt at wittiness has failed.
Try again.
I wasn’t trying to be witty. I was a bit unclear about your doctrine of forced pregnancy.
Ms.Palin believes that if pregnancy results from rape or incest, the victim should not be able to terminate the pregnancy. And to top it off - pay for her rape kit.
If that isn’t backwards cave-like thinking, then I don’t know what is.
speaking of cave. You are aware that the republican party opposes abortion. LOL yet you seem shocked, SHOCKED…
Speaking of cave, only the ultra far right wingnuts in the GOP believe in that nonsense, child. Most Republicans are mainstream moderates when it comes to abortion involving cases of rape/incest. You do know that, don’t you? Or do you think there are alot of Americans walking around who feel that a child should give birth to her father or uncle’s baby?
(although you may hail from a section of our country where that kind of thing is quite common).
The republican’s have been remarkably consistent in their opposition to abortion. But they have also been remarkably consistent in their belief that it is the states and not the courts that should decide on the status of it’s legality. As long as we have an interstate highway system, the young ladies of America will have options on how to deal with their uncles baby.
So I guess you’re okay if Palin pays for her rape kit after Sandra Blowhard’s “big black brothers” gang rape her then, right?
NO. WC. NO! Drop it. Drooooop it, I say. Bad WC. (newspaper smack to the tushy) You have no idea where that troll has been.
But I have to Strawberry. On troll safari, tracking the troll will sometimes require poking a stick in some troll shit.
Oh alright. Just make sure you wipe your feet and wash your hands afterwards. Have fun, ya little scamp.
that bogeyman Palin is so scary, I think I’ll still vote for her anyway.
Go ahead. There are roughly 218 million adults in the US of voting age. We have alot to work with.
I think we’ll survive without your vote.
it’s remarkable that you even considered whether or not a vote was essential to your survival
Yes, I am remarkable.
Your comments, however, are quite underwhelming.
yes you are. LOL We proved that with the sharpie the last time you passed out at a kegger.
FOOL. Women make up 50+% of the Democratic Party and WE VOTE! When BO doesn’t get our votes, guess what happens??? Just guess!
HE LOSES!
keep you damn legs shut
palin is pro-birth control
keep them shut for the next 4 yrs (I said before)
you could have had hillary
YOUR LOSS
don’t fk around and pass this around to the rest of your loonies4bambi
tell the little hookas to buy some salt peter or something
it’s your OWN DAMN FAULT
Didn’t support Hillary in the primaries but quite proud of her for not wanting to be seen with someone with Sarah’s credentials.
Or should i say lack of them. Go Hillary.
roseanne? wasn’t that a mediocre tv series 100 yrs ago?
Hillary is doing NOTHING but what is required of her for the job she chooses keep but if I were her, I would tell the DEMS to go STICK IT!!
They are nothing but misogynist PIGS that need a cause
whiners and babies and afraid of their own empty lives!
Not familiar with the show Roseanne, dawn.
Why? Is that a topic of discussion at your adult learning classes? But Hillary would be proud that you are finally going to achieve that coveted G.E.D after thirty some odd years. Go dawnelle!
2 yrs college (you’re not paying attention)
and 6yrs military service
A.D.D. much? take your meds and call me later
That’s not why she canceled. BOHitler told her to cancel. See what you’re supporting?
Roxanne if a failed abortion produces a live fetus, do you support actions to keep it alive or do you support actions to not keep it alive?
So, please tell us - what is Obama position on this?
I agree with you Roxanne, if you support Obama’s position, you should be disgusted and ashamed of yourself.
yeap bambi can’t get around that LACK of judgment about that vote!!! (I think 4 times he refused to sign it)
it (like karma) has come back to haunt him
I saw that commercial
it was VERY sad (jaw dropping) that young woman has more courage than anyone I’ve ever seen.
You should have thought about that before you turned your back on a pro-choice FEMALE who has spent her entire life fighting for your rights! G-d you’re stupid. Is it a prerequisite to be an ignorant, mindless wonder to be an OBOT? OBVIOUSLY, it is. What a dumb ass you are.
What I hear a lot is “But you have to think about the Supreme Court! You have to think about Roe vs. Wade!”
If people really care about Roe vs. Wade, why did they fail to vote for Clinton?
The assumption that McCain would overturn Roe vs. Wade, while Obama will save it, is a wrong assumption. Obama does not care about Roe vs. Wade, his stand on the issue is shifty, based on who he is talking to and what the polls say.
Neither Bushes nor Reagan overturned Roe vs. Wade, so why should McCain? He works across party lines on a regular basis, so he would look for a candidate to whom both sides can be comfortable with.
Besides, if all that speaks in favor of Obama is the unproven assumption that he might under certain circumstances nominate a liberal supporter of Roe vs. Wade for the Supreme Court… Poor, pityful us…
thanks for the excellent article…well said!
can anyone give me a rational reason for BO still being competitve in this race? It boggles my mind that after all he has shown to be (fraud) that so many people still support him…what am I missing?
well it sure as hell isn’t racism. I believe Soros and alot of other crooked Democrats want BO in there because he is just as crooked and corrupt as they are. They knew Hillary would stop the pork spending etc and so will McCain.
again
YEPPER I concur!
zgirl, the honest answer is that people are tired and angry about the mis-deeds of Bush, his policies, and the repubs. I truly believe that if Hillary was the democratic nominee, she would have had atleast a 15 point lead over McCain. The democratic nominee this year (Obama) is very weak. thats why the repubs are close. and if you monitor politico.com, the repubs are re-building their brand name, especially among the independents, which is important. the bad deeds of the obamacrats have made it easier for the repubs.
I believe Obama is competitive because a great many people see the 2008 election as a referendum between republican and democratic policies. That’s the way I’m looking at it personally.
Unless one really dislikes Obama or really dislikes McCain, the particular person representing the policies are of secondary importance.
Uh, my 5th grade English teacher would have circled person and are with a red pencil up there, and deducted 10 points for the obvious grammatical error…
screw it ziggy
you’re a big boy (or girl) now
typos happen
Its sad to see that NOW doesn’t stand up for other women. thats a real shame. wonder if they can get over it. when Obama loses, there will be lots of changes. lets hope that NOW understands that they stand for ALL women, not just obamacrat women.
benny - I’ve already written to NOW expressing my outrage and advising them they would no longer be receiving any more donations from me.
I received a letter back to checkout their “Shame” area on their website and that they are fighting for women against sexism. I tossed the letter away I was so outraged, again.
Obama does not appear anywhere in that section of their website! And do they actually think just posting something on their site is good enough?!!!! They should be out there on the front lines standing up for women’s rights in front of the media. People don’t regularly go to their site. And Obama appears NOWHERE on it except as the candidate they are backing! And how often has he insulted Hillary and Sarah Palin! How often has his supporters put down us Hillary supporters, Hillary, Sarah, and women in general?
They are condoning Obama’s actions! And I will not condone theirs! No more donations! EVER!
Yep, I’m really disappointed in NOW endorsing Barry and Credit Card Joe. I’m an officer in my state chapter of NOW and I wrote and told the National NOW PAC president how I felt and reminded them of the Anita Hill hearing, the caucus fraud, the disenfranchisement of votes, the misogyny, the abuse against women, etc. etc. I’m seriously debating whether or not I’ll renew my membership when it expires. I went to the National NOW Conference to specifically vote for the National NOW President and her team…I think I voted for the wrong candidate.
N.O.W. is O V E R
as far as I’m concerned
I agree Bill Butt Burton does look a lot like Ba-Ba…it is creepy..
Burton is also the kid everyone hated in high school because he was a conceit jerk.
Remember him?
Whenever he is on , I get queasy. He lies each time he opens his mouth with great aplomb.
As a Democrat who’s never voted for Republicans, the selection of Obama by the superdelegates, neither Obama or Clinton had enough delegates to get the nomination, demonstrated once and for all that the Democrats do not support women rights, unions, the working class, family issues, and all the issues Democrats talk about. Like Obama, the Democrats talk the talk.
McCain said Obama putting himself before his country a couple of times during his Blaine, Minnesota rally, suggesting Obama has been “gaming the system.”
“That’s not country first — that’s Obama first.”
Ouch.
I hope he keeps on hitting hard. At the end of the day, Barry is #2 on that list of recipient from Fannie/Freddie, Frank Reines was helping him, and so was Johnson and Penny. Them are the facts.
Every time I read something like this about McCain I am ashamed that I fell out of faith with him/started to fal for the bullshit of the leftist MSM who branded him “no better than Bush”. I did like McCain a lot in 2000, but since I wanted to see a continuation of the Clinton economic policies, I was strongly Gore (and I was disgusted at the way the other Republicans smeared McCain).
Ani..Great post as usual..Your words expressed exactly how many of us feel..A woman who chose to have a Down Syndrome baby because of the value she places on human life is a strong woman..(She is pro-choice and her choice was pro-life..She is a much stronger woman than I am..I admire her for her strength.).. I value life too; that is why I became a nurse.. I also do NOT believe in discarding aborted babies born alive..Yes,I was a democrat for Hillary supporter..If she were on top of the ticket, I would still be her supporter..But Obama slapped everyone of us when he shunned her and I will NOT vote for someone just because he is a democrat..I am an American first who just happens to love America, and would have rejected, years ago, a Rev Wright who preached, “G** D*** America..It should NOT have taken an election for Obama to disown that minister..Obama’s judgment is extremely poor…McCain is an admirable man, a straight-talking man..With him, you know what you are getting..He has proven his love for America..Obama has NOT…McCain has also proven that he recognises a strong young woman who is a maverick and reformer as he is, a perfect team…..Sorry,Donna, Dean, and the DNC, you blew it!
well said, caringnurse1. and absolutely true. and I must say that you have an interesting nick.
OT - But BREAKING NEWS:
Very discouraging news from Russia today.
Russia stated today that they plan to provide weapons to…
(wait for it)
IRAN
AND
VENEZUELA
We definitely need to keep our eye on Russia!
Sweet! Those two countries have leaders Obama wants to sit down and hang out with - without preconditions!
Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old,
I love the outdoors,
I hunt,
I am a Republican reformer,
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment,
I have many children,
I have a spot on the national ticket as vice president with less than two years in the governor’s office.
Have you ever heard of me before now?
I am Teddy Roosevelt.
25th Vice President of the United States, and 26th President of the United Sates
ooo imagine that!
I noticed that in one of McCain’s ads he made liberal use of old footage of Teddy. It was great.
I just heard Sean Hannity (I know, I know) on the radio and he said that he had been forwarded an email that purports to have come from DNC sources saying that there is a contingency plan for Biden to announce a health problem about 10/5 and to name Hillary as the new VP candidate. Hannity is treating it as pure rumor, but says it backs up the contention that BO realizes that he messed up by not asking Clinton to serve as VP.
Just wrote about this:
http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/09/what-if-biden-is-dumped-for-hillary/
Thanks! I appreciate your thoughts and concur. Would you think that HRC would agree to replace Biden if she was asked? How would that benefit her? And would BO drop Biden without first getting a guarantee from HRC that she would “rescue” him.
I think if the rumors are true then Hillary would have already agreed to it…
The only way this would make sense for her would be if she and Bill had something up their sleeves to take Obama out of the running and thus end up with her at the top of the ticket. But that’s a pipe dream.
Ditto. I don’t think Obama/Clinton would happen at this point. I think Bill would be even more pissed if she agreed to bail his ass out like that. His anger at her not being at the top of the ticket would be hard to contain–harder than it is now.
That’s MY pipe dream. I’m hoping beyond all hope something takes BO down and Hillary steps in to rescue the election. I can dream and will continue to do so.
Skeletor colmes had Newt in stitches yesterday asking him if he thought McCain had made the right choice in picking such an inexperienced VP candidate? After Newt composed himself from his laughing, he basically asked Colmes if he sees the stupidity in that question…(I am paraphrasing here) “Obama picked Biden, Biden! Hillary Clinton who had 18 million votes…and he picked Biden!” Colmes looks like a stupid fool on his show…the comic relief guy. He can’t get a word in when the Repubs bash him. Rove’s favorite line to serve Colmes is “…don’t embarrass yourself by…” and you can see Colmes getting all flustered.
Thank you soo much! I never read something more beautiful than your article. God Bless your every words.I thought, I’m lost, but your words made me to realize I’m not. I wish,your intelligent comments to be a usefull learning for many women.Not to many women will accept one other women if she feels,she is smarter than her. To bad for us.
Great post! All those adoring female Obots are a sad testament to the backward step the Democratic Party has taken in obliterating this nation’s chances of electing the first female President in 2008. I hope the DNC are happy with their bumbling, third rate, straw puppet candidate who can’t speak properly without the aid of a teleprompter. If Obama were pro-woman, Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton would be his running mate. If the DNC were honest and pro-female, HRC would be the party’s nominee. The Democratic Party is a sick joke.
Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild’s open endorsement of McCain-Palin earlier this week sends a clear message to HRC’s most loyal supporters that Obama-Biden is not just a sexist ticket but a bad choice all around. I’ve been waiting for this moment knowing that with LFR’s endorsement, many who are still on the fence will ultimately choose to follow this shrewd business woman’s lead by casting their vote for McCain-Palin and putting country first.
ani was kind enough to ask me to comment. I gave some strong views. Just hope she isn’t offended in any way. If I’m wrong, just chalk it up to me being a man.
benny,
You are more than welcome to comment and I’m glad you did. Nothing you wrote here was offensive that I can see.
NoQ welcomes all viewpoints — and hopefully an intelligent discussion — the only thing not needed are trolls.
Thanks again for taking the time.
While many women have gone to BO’s camp, for their own reasons, they have NO influence with me, and get less respect!
If WE have progressed at all over the years, those who fell in line have forfeited their gains!
As long as I have the mental capacity to do so, I will value MY judgement, and proudly support MY candidates!
I have earned it!
Oh yes, I forgot,
Saw an article today that McCain/Palin are leading by 27% here in Tennessee!
I’m not the only “smart cookie” in my state!
PLEASE DO NOT INTERACT WITH TROLLS - IT IS A WASTE
OF TIME AND GETS OFF TOPIC. THIS SITE IS OBVIOUSLY
SOME KIND OF THREAT TO THEM OR THEY WOULD NOT BE HERE.
PLEASE IGNORE!!
The only demographic I think about concerning Bobo’s win is the black vote, which put him over in some Southern states. And if most black people weren’t Dems and concentrated in the party, this couldn’t have happened. Many of the other states he won were caucus ones, where a tiny minority of voters attended, and/or situations where DNC vote manipulation and BO thuggery and other illegalites swayed the outcome. I personally don’t blame women any more than I blame men. Both genders should have realized that Bobo was a no-go in the GE instead of succumbing to this “it’s our time” and “we’ll make history” line. But women who rejected Hillary, the one viable candidate, CAN be blamed for now whining AS WOMEN about Palin and the fact that some females consider many, many more issues besides abortion rights in their choice of Prez. Moreover, we’re expected, by the BO folk, to blindly follow orders and elect a man who can’t be trusted to stick to any position–even for one day–that he espouses! Bobo shows constant contempt for women and their dignity. So why would we put our access to abortion or anything else in his slippery fingers?
On Roe v Wade, there’s a lot of bonafide leftists who believe the GOP is NOT at all serious about overturning it, for it would certainly be their undoing. Women would abandon them in mega-massive droves if they dared. And they know it.
The GOP runs on abortion merely to bring out the evangelical base. The GOP, particularly the RNC top brass, perennially run on divisive divide-n-conquer issues for which they have no real conviction. Their conviction in banning abortion is about as deep as their conviction for a balanced budget.
In 20 years of Reagan, Bush41, and Bush43, Roe vs Wade is still on the books.
While Hillary and Sarah Get Trashed in the U.S., Muslim Women in Britain Get Sharia Law
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/while-clinton-and-hillary-get-trashed-in-the-us-muslim-women-in-britain-get-sharia-law/
Sarah, Joe and Liza the Chicken
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/sarah-joe-and-liza-the-chicken/
Sarah, the Mooseburger Mom
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/sarah-the-mooseburger-mom/
We (kenosha Marge and IA-GRL)are on a role here at IA on all this crap…
The Sharia Law piece will get you thinking…
Because they are hypocrites and want men to run their lives.
All the “feminist” hypocrites are exposing their bigotry. They only support women’s rights if those women fit their criteria. I have been a liberal feminist my entire teen and adult life, and I am appalled and ashamed by the ugly and judgmental comments coming from the supposedly “tolerant and open-minded” Left. Even if I do not support Palin’s policies, I respect that she is a strong, talented woman. If you don’t agree with her, don’t vote for her. The hatred and character assassination are exactly the same thing the Right did to HRC in the 90’s and this spring and to others. The hypocrisy is shocking.
Case in point: Sandra Bernhart (sp?) the actress/comedienne has this to say in her new show, and people find it hil-arious. I find it disgusting.
“Sarah Palin better not come to Manhattan or I am going to get my big black male friends to gang rape her.”
Charming. That’s really enlightened and advanced thinking for women. Now they’re joking about gang rape.
wow. it has gotten beyond embarassing for democrats, but as that comment by bernhard shows, they clearly have no shame.
What a horrific, awful comment. This is of course why the ERA didn’t pass.
as far as i’m concerned, anbody who’s a fan of rap music is no friend of women or america. and some of these folks had the nerve to criticise the playing of country music at the dem convention (brooks and dunn- only in america?). jeezus christ.
Rap music is totally disgusting and affront to women’s long term rights.
I’ve taken up to listening to Country music again as it reminds me of America’s great heritage that needs protecting.
I can see that we can lose all that makes this country great.
“When your walking on my country man
your walking on the Fighting side of me”
Merle Haggard
yep, and “only in america” is a very good, positive song. country music in general is some of the most woman-positive music out there too; it usually has good moral values in the lyrics. you can listen to 99% of it with your kids or grandkids, whereas 99% of rap is not safe for losteners of any age. i’m afraid we are in danger of having the democratic party taken over byt the “rap generation.” it’s scary.
can someone help me? I’m wondering, will all of the trolls or obamabots, after McCain wins, come back and apologize to us? just askin’
They’ll all be in treatment, at that point.
Exactly.
The Obamabrats will probably be on suicide watch.
Women consistently do this to each other. Ingrained jealousy and competition toward other women rather than building good support groups and helping each other out. They only work together for their children, but it doesn’t extend much into other areas. Women just keep getting duped and that’s why even though women get the right to vote and change things, they allow themselves to continually be used and trampled on while being the martyrs. Wake up women everywhere and demand some RESPECT. For now, that means a reform of the democratic party and calling out and denouncing ALL sexism - whether it’s against a Democrat or Republican. This stuff really does roll down-hill into the school place, workplace, and the home.
Really cute and interesting article about the diversity and tolerance of Alaska society that should sooth those who are worried about Sarah’s conservatism
at:
http://www.slate.com/id/22004041
Apparently she is appears to be a Libertarian regarding personal value issues and doesn’t impose them on others.
FROM DAB:
OOPS,Sorry! Apparently you can’t get to that link from my previous address. Instead try
http://www.slate.com
and read “Bridge to Weirdville”
A CBS/NYT POLL about the effect of the Sara Palin pick on white women’s support of McCain and Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/maddow-mccain/
I just wanted to add, that I think a lot of the animosity towards Palin has to do with the PERCEPTION of guilt…
Nobody’s said anything to anyone, but it’s there anyway…
Women who had abortions, or family/spouses of those that did, that MAY have taken them for granted because it was not something really analyzed at the time for its full implications. And now Palin’s pro-life example shines some kind of internal spotlight onto their decision.
“At the time”, versus “In retrospect”, are two entirely different scenarios, sometimes they are the same sometimes they are the opposite, sometimes maturity makes us realize we are stronger than we thought we were at the time. Maybe, well what IF we had been more grave about the decision? The era was one of zipped-lips, you had the right, nothing more said. All that confounded with a stalwart need to keep the option intact, it is a woman’s right but it isn’t not-serious either.
RvW isn’t going anywhere, what’s going to change I think it the gravitas of the decision to use it, and Palin life in the way she has chosen to lead it, is creating a very, very uncomfortable introspection for many people of the era of RvW and a new outlook for the era of Zoe Spears and Juno. And as you can see about Paliln…the discomfort amounts to hostility!!…..I think it will distill out to “yes you have the right, but carefully ask yourself it you believe it is right, right now and 5 and 10 and 20 years from now”
I think the hostility towards Palin’s life-track reflects on feeling robbed of the exploration of implications at the time of crisis by a lot of women (77% of women have either had an abortion or know someone close relative who has). “How DARE she give birth to that Down’s baby”…and this really bites…”when so many perfectly normal babies were killed?” oooh. I don’t think Palin would rankle so badly were there not some seed planted in the heart to begin with. It is so conflicted, the need for the right to abortion, and now, she will not allow the silencing of the discussion over the seriousness of it.
The need for access to abortion, post-Palin, will never be as removed from the seriousness of its implications. Even if they are not discussed at the time, they never really go away.
This is a really great post, and I’m tempted to steal parts of it to reference over at my LiveJournal. Your husband and I are soul brothers. I have thought and believed the same way. I get rather apoplectic with that bullshit excuse “Hillary’s smarter, but…” too! WTF. There is no plainer way of saying “Hillary’s smarter, but Obama’s black” than THAT.
…and I know you’ll give credit where it’s due!
“I said, “In the privacy of the voting booth, it is not men who will take her down. It is women. Not enough women will vote for her.”
Women are the worst sexists in regard to other women. It’s a shame. Hillary was the best candidate and too many women were against her because she is a woman. Those same women are now against Palin because she is a woman. Nothing to do with issues, just the fact they are women and some women cannot support another woman no matter what.
Yet these are the same women who will complain about getting no respect. If a woman is stupid enough to vote for Oblahblah, any subsequent complaints should fall on deaf ears.
Ani - You out did yourself on this one. I almost cried, you nailed it so perfectly.
I am going to post this on my blog, hope you don’t mind. This needs to be read by everyone!
Brava!!!!!
Thanks so much, Sara — of course — please feel free to cross post. We need to get the word out.
Done. :OD
Seriously, it was just GREAT!
Great post Ani. I think the identification politics of being female is one of the most dangerous games politicians play. We are not that much of a predictable group in one sense, yet in some ways there is an effort to make a nice neat box we all fit into. It’s the ultimate stealing of identity.
The men in my life are similar to your husband, and with respect always have expressed support for choice, and that choice also includes the right to give birth as well.
Roe v. Wade, needs to be considered under states rights and nothing more or less. It is a stare decis ruling, the odds of that going away are pretty much non-existent, I would add, at some point there has to be individual responsibility, As applicable, not speaking out about other reasons beyond for birth control.
Ani, EXACTLY, great post. Women who don’t believe in themselves are unlikely to vote for a woman, even if the woman is the best person we’ve seen in ages. It’s sickening.
One of my age 30 coworkers, when asked who she was voting for in the primary, said she had to ask her dad. Yeah.
The swooning obots can cry about Roe from the rooftops when McCain/Palin win the election. I’ll grab my popcorn, put my feet up, and enjoy the show.
MCCAIN/PALIN ‘08
I think that women have been taught to hate themselves and each other. We are taught that we are inferrior to men from the cradle on. We often project that self hate onto each other. It comes from the same place where women tell their daughters to go back to abusive relationships, or in musilim countries how the women are the first to participate in the genital mutilation of their young daughters. It’s sickening, but a real manifestation of the misogyny we live with. The self-loathing is as big a part of the misogyny as the things men do to us. It’s almost like the trapped animial who will chew off his own leg. Its very hard to wrap your head around, but a good example of what I’m talking about can be seen in the Sally Feild movie “NOT WITHOIUT MY DAUGHTER”.
This movie is about a women who marries an Iranian Dr. and goes to Iran to meet his family. They trap her and her young daughter there and force them to live in slavery. The women, particularly the mother in law, are the biggest offenders of forcing the daughter in law and the young granddaughter to be submissive and accept a lesser station in life than the males.
It is sort of the same syndrome that blacks experienced during slavery, when the one’s who worked in the big house partook in the oppression of the feild hands.
Part of the work we need to do is to love our daughters and ourselves. Equality will never happen until be believe that we are worthy of it.
Worth a look…pass it on.
http://www.youtube.com/v/AiEWCnpNnBQ&hl=en&fs=1
Ani,
As always I enjoy your writing. And I do think that many women suffer from the cultural disease of misogyny, internalizing much of what the broader culture suggests about women. But I think that Senator Clinton was foiled by both men and women who suffer from that cultural disease as well as by men and women who were simply scammed by Senator Obama.
Many of Senator Clinton’s harshest critics were women but many of her greatest supporters, in politics and among rank and file Democrats were women. I wouldn’t want to that point lost.
But again, this is not to say that there weren’t plenty of perverse reactions from women to Senator Clinton’s candidacy. Bottom line: I think you offer terrific insight into one piece of the puzzle but the piece fits into a bigger picture.
Cheers,
Heidi Li
Heidi, of course, there were many forces at play here — and some opposition and misogyny from both men and women. The biased media and DNC thuggery were the worst culprits.
I am by no means laying blame for the outcome of this primary at the feet of women.
But those women specifically who now ‘fear’ for “their rights” yet didn’t vote their rights during the primary by pickin someone who has always advocated for them, do share in the blame. They have no business threatening the rest of us with this nonsense now when they didn’t give a whit about their rights in picking their ‘cute’ candidate.
P.S. to my previous comment:
One thing is for sure: nobody will look out for women’s rights like a progressive woman. Nobody. And women do need to get that.
Ani,
I got sidetracked at work, doing work (Imagine that!). Anyway, I had to stop by again to tell you what a great post this was today. Thanks for saying all that many of us feel.
And some of you need to read very carefully the other post about NOT RESPONDING TO TROLLS! (That is why I’m not mentioning their names.) Don let them deflect you from the excellent points of Ani’s post.
This is so very true sadly!
I would like to cross post - not sure how so whatever I do - I will give you credit - but this needs to be read by as many as possible.
Great work!
FreeMeNow aka Bettyjean from Freemenow.wordpress
You are certainly welcome to cross-post as long as my name and this site is credited.
Thank you for commenting and getting the word out.
I meant to suggest that you check out my blog this week- i have taken on all the big wig women’s groups for not takinging us any further than they have- stagnant wages- sexism unanswered not plans to fight for higher offices- looks like they happy with things they way they are- could it be they never plannd for growth? Cause I sure have and i have plans for my grandaughter that empowers them well beyond their reproductive rights and propells tem right through that damned ceiling. the old gals can rot in those same states of suspended animation but the rest of us are moving onward and upward as we should have years ago!
I campaigned for hillary and was proud to be called a deadender for hillary-and the democratic party leadership shot us in the foot—I however have decided to shot myself in the other foot would be just plain stupid-we have the ways and means to take it to the democratic party wthout destroying the country-this isn’t about roe vs wade-it really is about the survival of our country -while i don’t upport obama-i do stand for the principles of democracy, over my own outrage and anger-and anyone who votes for sarah palin votes for what she stand-s for-and it is against everything that hillary stood for-its a slap in the face for hillary-i ask you to hear the voice of you better angels
cowgirlblues writes: >anyone who votes for sarah palin votes for what she stand-s for-and it is against everything that hillary stood for-its a slap in the face for hillary-i ask you to hear the voice of you better angels<
The only difference between Palin and Hillary is choice. They both stand for equal rights for working women and equal pay for working mothers. Let’s not forget those are the basic tenets of the original “Feminist Manifesto”. Abortion rights came much later. In fact Palin, will and already is a role model for working mothers, who need to take babies and small preschool children to work before they are ready for daycare and preschool. Palin has been having babies and working as Mayor and Governor while doing it. There is a new trend in major corporations and offices to have on site daycare so working moms can bring their preschool children to work. Palin will expand that when elected.
It is certainly shooting oneself in the foot, or cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face, if you’re a woman and you don’t see that having a women/mother working in one of the top profile jobs, is going to further the Feminist Manifesto. Disqualifying that becasue she does not support abortion is not seeing the feminine forest from the trees and sabotages all women and our daughters of the future.
I am a Hillary supporter, and there is NO WAY I could ever give my vote to Obama and the corrupt Democratic party for the way Hillary and all of her 18 million supporters were treated and were dissed by the DNC and Obama, when he ignored Hillary and his supporters as his running mate. I will not vote for Sexism, which is what the DNC and Obama have committed. I will not vote for cronyism, which is how the DNC conducted themselves by taking votes and delegates away from Hillary and cutting voters in half. I will not vote for the DNC as they no longer uphold my values as a working woman and working mother. As a woman, I will not be defined by abortion rights alone. I know that abortion will always remain legal, and will in the future be given over to the states to maintain which will take this ‘wedge’ issue out of the federal and political arenas, so the country can no longer be divided by what should remain a personal choice between and woman and her god. Feminism is not limited to reproductive rights, women are not that limited.
Palin will further the feminist cause and those who are being told to vote against the ticket are doing so out of fear.
This is my first time posting here but I have to chime in. The survival of our country is not dependent on a lying fraud like Senator Obama. He has lied so many times and is not qualified for the office he is seeking. I cannot reward him or the DNC for what they did.
They clearly do not have the best interests of America at heart or they would have properly awarded the nomination to Hillary instead of allowing all this fraud to take place.
Every time this man opens his mouth, he shows how little he understands — perhaps you need to go back and read this again. He is labelling himself a Democrat but that is not who he is. He keeps talking about Republicans being the party of good ideas and he likes Bush’s faith based initiatives which are not good either. He trashed the best president we had in many years. He doesn’t sound like a Democrat to me.
And after what these people who call themselves Democrats did this year, I want nothing to do with them. That’s what my better angels are telling me.
I put my country first. I will not vote for him.
thank you so much for the compliment of my article… I was loving yours… but seeing that made me like it even more LOL.
I think that what has happened to women and the women’s movement this election cycle is very sad.
Hillary should try to LEGISLATE ANTI-WOMAN-HATRED LAWS same as we have ANTI-RACISM policies and legislation.
This is overdue. Watched CNN’s “MEDIA and MISOGYNY” with Howard Kurtz and Carol Costelo. Incredible!
Then watched Women’s Media Centre’s “SEXISM SELLS, BUT WE’RE NOT BUYING IT”
Then I reviewd my favorite SEXIST PIG HUSSEIN OBAMA’s own JayC rrapper-wannabe-act where he flip-offed and scraped off his shoes, as if excrement, his fellow female senator:
“Obama Gives HIllary the Finger” –and this juvenile sexist anorexic resume-holder wants the top job?
Mary -
You wrote -
Chris Rock had a great routine elaborating on how: “All crimes are hate crimes”.
Legislating in her new position as SOS might be problematic for HRC; however,
if your proposed legislation would abolish rap and its derivatives, I’d be wildly in favor.
Ani
THIS IS THE BEST POST! THANK YOU!
[...] was always for Obama. If you haven’t read Ani’s EXCELLENT piece at NoQuarter, “Ladies, If You Didn’t Vote For Hillary..Why Are You Screaming About Your Rights Now??“, I urge you to do so.). But - this has gone too, too FAR, courtesy of Sandra Bernhard. What [...]
Powerful post. Bravo Ami.
This was one of the cases I made with “progressive friends” was that their hatred for Hillary Clinton was both unfounded and many times reinforced by their sexism. They screamed and hollered that a vote for Obama was change and progress.
Now I was willing to hear that, except I asked, how is electing 44 men in a row change?
Why can’t you elect Hillary Clinton and see that change? And after all the bickering over the “iraq” vote, they had little more than conspiracy theory answers about her past and the CFR etc. But when I pointed out the Obama also was quite welcomed in to the CFR they disagreed vehemently. “He doesn’t take lobby money” etc etc.
But I asked them again, how is it 44 men in a row is change? Men have had their chance to run things for …hmmm..how long now?
When I grew up, my mother raised me, then my grandmother later. My first boss, woman, my first and best manager, a very strong woman who was awesome, and in the next job, another woman. But in my last outside job before starting my own business 10 years ago, each manager was a man, the pattens were very paternalistic at all levels. The turnover rate was disgusting.
I’m all for electing not white candidates as part of challenging the power structures that are dominated by white privilege but as much as we have to learn about these divisions, the power division between men and women is much more insidious and damaging than we see in the racial divisions.
I voted for a Democrat last year…in the primaries, she was treated so piss poor by her own party that I absolutely refused to vote for the Democrats in November. I only voted for one, my representative because he does the right thing and earned it, but the rest were independents and write ins.
If there is anything to learn from the past season of elections, some don’t know what is in their best interest whether it is regarding women or others. Getting caught up in a ‘movement’ isn’t change. Its parroting.
Thanks for your article Ami.
truthtelling -
Her name is ANI, not AMI.
Some men are great leaders, others not so. The same is true of women.
Do you think Pelosi is better than a man?
It’s an issue of OPPORTUNITY.
HRC never got the opportunity she EARNED.