Comments on: Help Retire Hillary’s Debt (+ Open Thread) http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:50:45 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Emily Nghiem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-962888 Emily Nghiem Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:37:25 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-962888 I just donated $25 to help retire Hillary's debt. Before, I never felt sympathy or related to Hillary at all, but actually was turned off and was disgusted how she came across, as talking down as if the public should rely on elected leadership or government instead of carrying equal authority, responsibility and credit, in order to reduce dependence on government that invites bureaucracy, abuse and waste. I feel this is the first request for money that has truly been honest. So I wanted to recognize that and reward it. All the previous promises were meaningless to me of reforming health care by top-down legislation, which is backwards, where effective programs must be proven first by example before public policies and funding can follow from successful working models. Real solutions are built from the ground up. I doubt Hillary has truly known what it is like to struggle to rebuild from below zero, until she took this incredible loss and blow to her ego. It is terrible to suffer in a position of feeling unjustly denied votes that would have won her the nomination, while portrayed negatively in the media to emphasize the worst perceptions while ignoring her best strengths, but then having to endorse someone she must resent whom the media plays up as a favorite while glossing over faults, which they would not do for her. That is a lot to forgive and a real challenge to anyone's faith in justice and the policial process. It is painful, and I do not envy her, though it is good for her as a person to be humbled this way, or else God would not have her go through this setback. Though I can only afford to give in a small way, as I already have my own debts from lending to working women struggling with financial crisis, I still wanted to offer encouragement. It is never easy for anyone, even someone seen as strong and as powerful as Hillary, to recover from such a deeply disappointing and heartbreaking loss after being so certain, to give all that up and keep moving forward. Best wishes to Hillary and all supporters. I look forward to working with you to build programs that offer equal opportunity for women and minority leaders to prove their track records so they can run for public office on positive campaigns instead of relying on negative competition for money and power. Emily Nghiem, Girls in Government http://www.houstonprogressive.org/democalls.html I just donated $25 to help retire Hillary’s debt. Before, I never felt sympathy or related to Hillary at all, but actually was turned off and was disgusted how she came across, as talking down as if the public should rely on elected leadership or government instead of carrying equal authority, responsibility and credit, in order to reduce dependence on government that invites bureaucracy, abuse and waste. I feel this is the first request for money that has truly been honest. So I wanted to recognize that and reward it. All the previous promises were meaningless to me of reforming health care by top-down legislation, which is backwards, where effective programs must be proven first by example before public policies and funding can follow from successful working models. Real solutions are built from the ground up. I doubt Hillary has truly known what it is like to struggle to rebuild from below zero, until she took this incredible loss and blow to her ego. It is terrible to suffer in a position of feeling unjustly denied votes that would have won her the nomination, while portrayed negatively in the media to emphasize the worst perceptions while ignoring her best strengths, but then having to endorse someone she must resent whom the media plays up as a favorite while glossing over faults, which they would not do for her. That is a lot to forgive and a real challenge to anyone’s faith in justice and the policial process. It is painful, and I do not envy her, though it is good for her as a person to be humbled this way, or else God would not have her go through this setback. Though I can only afford to give in a small way, as I already have my own debts from lending to working women struggling with financial crisis, I still wanted to offer encouragement. It is never easy for anyone, even someone seen as strong and as powerful as Hillary, to recover from such a deeply disappointing and heartbreaking loss after being so certain, to give all that up and keep moving forward. Best wishes to Hillary and all supporters. I look forward to working with you to build programs that offer equal opportunity for women and minority leaders to prove their track records so they can run for public office on positive campaigns instead of relying on negative competition for money and power.
Emily Nghiem, Girls in Government
http://www.houstonprogressive.org/democalls.html

]]> By: Still4Hill http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-762524 Still4Hill Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:24:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-762524 Oh - 'scuse me - you DON'T love her? Well I do and I'll keep helping her with the debt. She's the one with the only people-based recovery plan, btw. The other plans are bank-based. Oh – ’scuse me – you DON’T love her? Well I do and I’ll keep helping her with the debt. She’s the one with the only people-based recovery plan, btw. The other plans are bank-based.

]]> By: Still4Hill http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-762501 Still4Hill Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:18:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-762501 The invitation came too late for me to make arrangements, but I have been sending her $$ and plan to continue. I sure wish I could be there. She's my hero. Like everybody else here, I love her :( The invitation came too late for me to make arrangements, but I have been sending her $$ and plan to continue. I sure wish I could be there. She’s my hero. Like everybody else here, I love her :(

]]> By: AnneinPA http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-759404 AnneinPA Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:19:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-759404 I'm totally baffled by this debt. How much is it? Why is it a mystery? How much has been paid off since she suspended her campaign. We were told that money given up to the DNC convention could be put toward her primary debt then it was over for payment of that debt. What is this money being requested being used for? They said after the convention all money would go to her 2012 senate or yet to be seen presidential race. How much was raised by Pumas? What happened to Will and his 6-10 million dollar assertion of money raised for her debt? Lots of questions asked over and over again and no answer. I went on that fec.gov site and there was no record of me donating $200 to her campaign. Wonder why? I’m totally baffled by this debt. How much is it?
Why is it a mystery? How much has been paid off since she suspended her campaign.

We were told that money given up to the DNC convention could be put toward her primary debt then
it was over for payment of that debt.

What is this money being requested being used for?
They said after the convention all money would go to
her 2012 senate or yet to be seen presidential race.

How much was raised by Pumas? What happened to Will
and his 6-10 million dollar assertion of money raised
for her debt?

Lots of questions asked over and over again and no
answer. I went on that fec.gov site and there was
no record of me donating $200 to her campaign. Wonder
why?

]]> By: politicsIsdirty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758638 politicsIsdirty Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:12:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758638 I have also contributed a lot to Hillary to a point where my wife is keeping my credit card away from me. I am slowly getting dismayed be Hillary's actions lately. He is so devoted to Obama and DNC in spite of the fact that she knows who the real Obama is. Sen Clinton, please rise above politics and support the best person for the country. Country above party! I have also contributed a lot to Hillary to a point where my wife is keeping my credit card away from me.

I am slowly getting dismayed be Hillary’s actions lately. He is so devoted to Obama and DNC in spite of the fact that she knows who the real Obama is.

Sen Clinton, please rise above politics and support the best person for the country. Country above party!

]]> By: politicsIsdirty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758613 politicsIsdirty Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:06:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758613 Hillary has been doing all she can to counter the popularity of Sarah Palin and convince all who voted for her to support Obama. Unfortunately, she is not getting any help from either Obama or the DNC. What is happening here? The devotion of Hillary to DNC and Obama seem to be a story out of a Barry Manilow song. Please Sen Clinton, wake up! Country above party. Hillary has been doing all she can to counter the popularity of Sarah Palin and convince all who voted for her to support Obama. Unfortunately, she is not getting any help from either Obama or the DNC. What is happening here?

The devotion of Hillary to DNC and Obama seem to be a story out of a Barry Manilow song.

Please Sen Clinton, wake up! Country above party.

]]> By: politicsIsdirty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758598 politicsIsdirty Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:01:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758598 With so much time and effort Hillary has been giving to the campaign of Obama, how come she is not getting any financial help from him? Something is very wrong here. Maybe she should ask McCain to help her instead. Maybe McCain will try and help her retire her debt. She is not getting anywhere with Obama. With so much time and effort Hillary has been giving to the campaign of Obama, how come she is not getting any financial help from him?

Something is very wrong here.

Maybe she should ask McCain to help her instead. Maybe McCain will try and help her retire her debt. She is not getting anywhere with Obama.

]]> By: No Obama for me http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758582 No Obama for me Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:58:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758582 Clinton Fan, You know I cannot understand why it is up to us. The lady has zillions of dollars so why should we help her. She will write a few more books and have a billion dollars. Why should ordinary people like us help her anymore especially since she is knocking herself out for that maggot Obama. I was a supporter but not anymore. I contributed the max already to her campaign and it was money thrown away. McCain/Palin 08 Clinton Fan, You know I cannot understand why it is up to us.

The lady has zillions of dollars so why should we help her. She will write a few more books and have a billion dollars. Why should ordinary people like us help her anymore especially since she is knocking herself out for that maggot Obama.

I was a supporter but not anymore. I contributed the max already to her campaign and it was money thrown away.

McCain/Palin 08

]]> By: Truthteller http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758575 Truthteller Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:54:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758575 i have never heard of it. i have never heard of it.

]]> By: a nancy in name only http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758533 a nancy in name only Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:35:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758533 You mean "The Confluence " riverdaughter.wordpress.com a great pro hillary site You mean “The Confluence ” riverdaughter.wordpress.com
a great pro hillary site

]]> By: Truthteller http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758511 Truthteller Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:27:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758511 I still do not know what that is. Who are they? And who designed that site? I still do not know what that is. Who are they? And who designed that site?

]]> By: MOmule http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758480 MOmule Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:14:35 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758480 I was a supporter of Edwards, because I did not want a Clinton "dynasty" and thought his health care policy was the best. Well, we saw how that turned out! He obviously knew for a long time that he would have to get out of the race and cravenly collaborated with BO to cause the mess in Fla. & Mich. Meanwhile, my respect for HRC was growing with every bashing that she took. I used to wonder how she could get up in the morning and face another day of the misogyny and hate. Plus, there was no avoiding the fact that she was the smartest, best prepared candidate. Having seen what she went through, can you imagine what she would face going back to the senate if she did not appear to back her party's (illegitamate) candidate? She is out there because she has more power that Kennedy,Kerry and Edwards combined. Why? Because of all of us who have told the DNC where to go. I don't believe she is unaware that whatever she says will not change our minds. I chose her as my candidate later than many, but I am not going to jump ship now. I have faith that she knows more than I about the machinations of the Democratic party. I don't feel obliged to send any money to retire her debt, because I feel sure she knew what she was getting into at the start of the primaries, and can recoup the loss one way or another. (Perhaps a book, "How BO cheated his way to defeat"?). IMHO, the best thing she can do is be visible - as, for example, giving that terrific speech on the financial mess we are in. Every time she is seen, whatever she says, she is pointing out the fact that she is the one that should be the nominee. I don't believe that many people will be converted into obots by her presence during the campaign. In fact, if they are like some of her ex backers posting here, they will be less likely to vote for BO than ever. HRC knows that in politics it is always "never say never", and she is a consummate politician. If you are going to have a hissy fit when she acts like one then you may as well vote for whichever post-racial, post-political, post-whatever fraud that comes along. I was a supporter of Edwards, because I did not want a Clinton “dynasty” and thought his health care policy was the best. Well, we saw how that turned out! He obviously knew for a long time that he would have to get out of the race and cravenly collaborated with BO to cause the mess in Fla. & Mich. Meanwhile, my respect for HRC was growing with every bashing that she took. I used to wonder how she could get up in the morning and face another day of the misogyny and hate. Plus, there was no avoiding the fact that she was the smartest, best prepared candidate. Having seen what she went through, can you imagine what she would face going back to the senate if she did not appear to back her party’s (illegitamate) candidate? She is out there because she has more power that Kennedy,Kerry and Edwards combined. Why? Because of all of us who have told the DNC where to go. I don’t believe she is unaware that whatever she says will not change our minds. I chose her as my candidate later than many, but I am not going to jump ship now.
I have faith that she knows more than I about the machinations of the Democratic party. I don’t feel obliged to send any money to retire her debt, because I feel sure she knew what she was getting into at the start of the primaries, and can recoup the loss one way or another. (Perhaps a book, “How BO cheated his way to defeat”?). IMHO, the best thing she can do is be visible – as, for example, giving that terrific speech on the financial mess we are in. Every time she is seen, whatever she says, she is pointing out the fact that she is the one that should be the nominee. I don’t believe that many people will be converted into obots by her presence during the campaign. In fact, if they are like some of her ex backers posting here, they will be less likely to vote for BO than ever. HRC knows that in politics it is always “never say never”, and she is a consummate politician. If you are going to have a hissy fit when she acts like one then you may as well vote for whichever post-racial, post-political, post-whatever fraud that comes along.

]]> By: Leisa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758420 Leisa Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:45:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758420 Yes, let's help Hillary if we have any $$ to spare. I do not want Obama to win the WH with the help of the biased media coverage that hurt Hillary. I found this great video that does a side by side comparison of the "ladies " on the View with BO and McCain... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdKL2LW1xYM I thought you all might like to see it. Yes, let’s help Hillary if we have any $$ to spare.

I do not want Obama to win the WH with the help of the biased media coverage that hurt Hillary.

I found this great video that does a side by side comparison of the “ladies ” on the View with BO and McCain…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdKL2LW1xYM

I thought you all might like to see it.

]]> By: MOmule http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758362 MOmule Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:21:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758362 Actually, it should be: www.therealbarackobama.wordpress.com Actually, it should be:
http://www.therealbarackobama.wordpress.com

]]> By: wodiej http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758318 wodiej Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:06:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/21/help-retire-hillarys-debt-open-thread/#comment-758318 I agree. I gave one donation to help retire her debt before she started rallying for Obama. No more. I agree. I gave one donation to help retire her debt before she started rallying for Obama. No more.

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