“Are You Threatened BY Me?”
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on September 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM in Ahmadinejad, Mahmoud, Backfire, DNC idiocy, Hillary Clinton, Iran, Israel, Sarah Palin
Today was the day that Senator Hillary Clinton and Governor Sarah Palin were to speak at the Anti-Iran Rally at the UN. As everyone knows by now, Senator Clinton decided not to speak once she learned Gov. Palin was going to be there, and then Gov. Palin was unceremoniously UN-invited to speak. Wowie zowie.
In the midst of all of this came an article by wcbstv.com, “Sources: Intense Pressure Led TO Palin UN Snub.” I am SO surprised to hear that, especially given the above-board manner (hahahaha) by which the Democrats have been acting this year – surely they would not force the Jewish groups holding this rally to rescind their invitation! Oh, but yes they would.
Below is the text of the article, but if you want to see a very good video on it, click the link above and there is one in the story:
Hillary Clinton won’t be speaking at Monday’s anti-Iran rally at the United Nations — and neither will Republican Sarah Palin or any other politicians for that matter.
The reason? A heated behind the scenes tug-of-war.
Sources tell CBS 2 HD that a decision to disinvite Palin from the high profile rally after Clinton pulled out in a huff came as the result of intense pressure from Democrats.
“This is insulting. This is embarrassing, especially to Gov. Palin, to me and I think it should be to every single New Yorker,” Assemblyman Dov Hikind, D-Brooklyn, told CBS 2 HD.
Sources say the axes were out for Palin as soon as Sen. Clinton pulled out because she did not want to attend the same event as the Republican vice presidential candidate.
“I have never seen such raw emotion — on both sides,” said someone close to the situation.
The groups sponsoring the rally against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN were reportedly told, “it could jeopardize their tax exempt status” if they had Palin and not Clinton or Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden on hand.
So all politicians were disinvited, most prominently, Palin.
“It’s an absolute shame that this has happened,” Hikind said. “To threaten organizations … to threaten the Conference of Presidents that if you don’t withdraw the invitation to Gov. Palin we’re going to look into your tax exempt status … that’s McCarthyism.”
Another Jewish group tried to step into the breach by inviting Palin to a different protest a day earlier.
“I’m absolutely appalled at the behavior of the Democrats,” said Bob Kunst of Defenders.net. “I’m a Democrat and for the first time in my life I’m going to vote Republican. I can’t take it anymore.”
As for Sen. Clinton, she brushed right past CBS 2 HD’s Lou Young when he tried to ask her about the issue on Thursday night.
Lou Young: “Were the organizers of Monday’s rally right to depoliticize it?”
Clinton walked past Young, said “Thank you all very much” and started hugging people.
Clinton’s people tell CBS 2 HD she intends to make some statement of support for the protestors. She is also expected to attack Ahmadinejad’s pro-nuke, anti-Israel stance.
Since Gov. Palin was uninvited, she made her remarks available to the New York Sun, if you care to read her remarks.
Here is the LINK to Senator Clinton’s letter to the organizers of the Anti-Iran Rally (damn, I miss hearing this woman, and how I wish she had spoken at this event regardless of Gov. Palin being there. That is just SO Un-Hillary-like. Gee, what are the chances that SHE got the hard-sell, too? I’m gonna bet 100%. Any takers?)
I don’t know when this became the DNC. I really don’t. This, along with all of the other immoral, unethical actions by the DNC this campaign season(previously listed about a gazillion times), along with the news about the source of the Palin rumors, now documented to be an orchestrated event (and covered by Easten McNeal at No Quarter), and one well connected to Obama and the DNC, just boggles the mind. Now, I realize I may have been very naive about the DNC and how it REALLY operates – I know I was shocked to learn that two people in Chuck Schumer’s office created a false credit report as a way to discredit Michael Steele (former Lt. Gov. of MD) just two years ago. But how could it get to this place?
Well, here we are, and where we are is a political party that strong-arms private groups to do its bidding. Great. Never mind that it was a GOOD CAUSE, one about which both Senator Clinton and Governor Palin feel strongly. Never mind that it would have given more POSITIVE coverage to those groups and their issue – the potential problems with Iran in terms of Israel. Now, the “disinvite” is being seen for what it is – and what it is ain’t pretty. Way to go, DNC – winning the hearts and minds of anyone who thinks bullying is the answer. And who is threatened by having two powerful women anywhere in the same vicinity of each other (oh my gosh – a CATfight could break out!! Or, NOT – and that would be WORSE, right?!?). Or is it that the DNC knows people will look at these two women, and know that HILLARY should be on the top of the ticket and not Obama? That SHE is the one who would have made the selection of Gov. Palin a non-starter? Yeah, that sounds about right to me. How about you?
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BREAKING: BILL CLINTON SAYS “STOP ATTACKING PALIN”
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your link is bad
The link works if you put the . and : in the correct place.
Frequent commenters need to learn hot to post a link via hyperlinking the text. Here it is. Otherwise the spam filter catches it.
Yeah, but check out this link to the Big Dawg on MSNBC…gottal love Bill Still! Plus he pretty much told the hags on The View (with the exception of Elisabeth) the same thing! I’m guessing the lunch last week did not go well for BO, I hope Bill made him pick up the check, too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-KWVGP1e0M
This is why people still have respect for Bill Clinton.
From the story: “…said Clinton, who faced repeated charges during the primary season he was overly negative toward Obama on the campaign trail.”
Just amazing – Clinton gets smeared as a racist, and HE’S the one charged with going negative.
This travesty that is Obama and his thugs must lose this election to set things right.
Consider the source. The Obamapukes and the Obamamedia have no credibility.
I copied your link and my shoe started ringing.
It is time people on this site decide what this site is going to be all about.
My desire to have obama brutally destroyed by any means cannot be questioned. I have advocated nothing less than going nuclear on obama. I have never tried to talk anybody out of getting down and dirty against obama.
yet the same people that try to discredit my message of destroying obama, by calling me a troll, are the same people that will also tell you to be mellow and take it easy on obama.
I AM SICK OF THIS SHIT.
PEOPLE ON THIS SITE NEED TO TREAT THIS LIKE THIS IS WAR.
THESE UNDERCOVER BOTS LIKE FRED MCBERFLE, BENNY, REPUBLICAN CHICK that come on this site and try to discredit everyone that wants to destry obama, and at the same time advocate the kids gloves for obama are ruining this site.
TIME TO SEND THEM BACK TO KOS
JM08 are you off your meds today?
I can lend you some of mine if you need a fix till you get a refill.
lol. nice one, jeremiah.
Y’all are hilarious.
You should come over to 538 and help me out sometime. Seriously, it’s tough going.
“JM08″
If you want us to go after Obama, why don’t you bring us something to go after him with. I hear you saying the same stuff everyday but not contributing any information. I’m just saying “JM08″ bring it on and we’ll be happy to take part in the “destroying” of Obama.
Hey JM, were you not the same person who was saying in the previous thread that Hillary Clinton has not a chance of coming back in 2012 due to “Clinton Fatigue” I’m sorry but from the comments I have recently read of yours, you seem to be the one who wants to not only see Obama tossed on the third rail but the entire Democratic party.
I hate Obama and Co. as well as the Democratic Leadership, but I still believe in core Democratic principals. I want to take my party back from these assholes.
In the prior thread you did nothing but parrot right-wind talking points about the Clintons. I think you are the troll pal!!
I think Clinton has a good chance to win in 2012 if McCain wins. No way he goes two terms, and she’ll probably eek out Palin because the next four years are going to be tough years to run on
yeah, that dude is dead in 4 years
I’m so baffled. If Hillary was 17 delegates apart from Obama but they kicked her out, how does that translate into a run for her in 2012? I just do not see it. It’s not like she lost and needs to try again. She was kicked to the curb and her rival was ‘gifted’ the nomination.
In my humble opinion, the only way Clinton will rebound and gain the nomination in 2012 is if two events occur:
1. McCain wins big in 2008.
2. Republican downticket candidates also win big in 2008.
These two happenings will be seen as a complete and total repudiation of the current Democratic leadership and present an opportunity for centrists to retake the party. Barring a total rout by the Republicans, your doubts will prove to be prescient.
You have to add that if McCain wins, the Democratic party will again be Clinton’s party not Obama. Then there will be a change of leadership. Dean will bow out as the head of DNC and Pelosi will lose her clout together with people like Donna Brazille.
McCain winning is the only key. HRC tried to tell the DNC that Oblockhead was unelectable. When he loses, so do the miscreants that put that bobblehead there in the first place. When I vote for McCain, I am getting twice the bang for my vote. And Brazile is toast, too.
ADMINISTRATOR BAN THIS POSTER…VERY NASTY, VULGAR ON LAST THREAD.
This site was never an “action” site. For that you should go to one of the PUMA websites. There are also quite a few “Nobama” websites out there that might be more aggressive in the way that you want.
I’m trying to be helpful by posting this, not dismissing your concerns. Frankly, I think that we should all be voting McCain to keep Obama out of the White House but not everyone here has the same philosophy on that. This is not a coalition with one mission but a blog.
Ha ha ha. Good snark, JM08. Still, we don’t want you bashing Hillary to raise money for McCain. Nor are we going to say McCain looks weak by not attacking enough. Otherwise, if you stick to the part about Obama you could fit right in.
This site is just fine without anyone deciding what it is going to be about. We write what we write; some like it and some don’t.
Well, it really isn’t war. So calm down.
Anne,
To address the subject of this article:
I’m glad Palin was disinivited, because that freed her up to attend the rally yesterday in Delaware County. The event was well attended, and McCain was presented with a tribute motorcycle by the American Chopper guys.
Since PA is a battleground, her presence at a rally was more important IMO.
This blog is not a democracy. The site owners determine what it is about. We are guests and should act accordingly.
Either this site is going to be kos. jr. and simply another outlet that spouts obama propoganda, or this is going to be a anti obama site, that stands up to all the media and blogs in the tank for obama.
Fred McBerfle
Benny
Republican Chick
Are obviously undercover trolls that are trying to brainwash everyone into taking it easy on obama.
It disturbs me yet again that you have failed to make mention or note of the author’s article. There is a lot of work and effort that go into providing enlightening and thought provoking articles like the ones posted by Rev. Amy and Truthteller.
Since you have put out the accusation that Ferd, Benny, myself, and others are Obots, the burden is yours to prove that we are indeed Obots. Links backed up by facts.
I called you out specifically because you have more of a tendency to stay off topic and throw temper tantrums.
You remind me of the Obots that continue to tell people they’re racists if they don’t vote for Obama. Like your statements calling us Obots, the Obots calling out people as ‘racist’—doesn’t make it more true or factual.
An aside, it isn’t your site. How Larry and Susan decide to run this site is their business–not yours or mine.
Now have the decency to acknowledge the hard work, effort, and thoughtfulness of Rev. Amy’s article.
If you’re truly a Republican, you’re the most useless and half assed one I’ve ever come upon.
RepublicanChick you ain’t no obot.
I second that, RC – I know you are not an Obot. Your comments have demonstrated that time and again.
Thank you for trying to bring this person back ON topic, too.
THe real obots are blatant ones one Kevlar and Unidirectional Bowel Movement then there are the more elusive types. They will pretend to be against Obama then maybe Bash Hillary or will say some stupid outrageous racist comment. Then there are the clone bots.
And ferd ain’t no obot. If you and ferd are obots then I am one too.
Last I checked, I wasn’t. I’ll continue to check occasionally just to make sure.
Do me a favor and check me too. I would not want to discover one day I became a Obarfbagbot. And dude you got to go harder on Ohitler.
I’ve never seen Ferd or Republican Chick or benny post something that would even remotely make anyone think they are obots.
JM08 keeps writing that he is not a troll, and promptly writes comments that sound very much like a troll. Not much credibility there.
About time Clinton said to lay off Palin. The misogyny and gutter tactics by the OBC is despicable.
Time to call those congress people (using the term loosely) REID, PIGLOSI, SCHUMER, BIDEN, WEXLER, and WASSERMAN-SHULZ AND TELL THEM ENOUGH!!!!! OR FACE OUR WRATH AT THE POLLS. WE WILL NOT FORGET.
COUNTRY FIRST
NOBAMA NO HOW NO WAY
MCCAIN/PALIN
jeremiah god damn amerika wright-
If you are honestly saying fred mcbarfle and benny are not undecover trolls, then you must be one of them
If you think JGDAW is not dripping with contempt for Obama and pointing out his weaknesses daily, you have really lost it. He’s the non-troll standard, I would say, along with Uppity Woman. Next you’ll be saying she’s soft on the zero.
JM08 I just wanted to let you know that my Volunteer Day in your honour went great.
Much more gratifying than Trollfund, which is now at an amazing $1300.
They were super over at McCain HQ, organized and pleasant.
You seem to feel strongly about things so I highly recommend you head on down and give them the benefit of your wisdom.
ah shit you found me out.
Alright folks i confess i am an Obama Troll disguised as a Hillary Supporter pretending to be pissed off enough at not only the primaries but the shit-slick of a candidate they replaced her with to Vote McCain.
The plan is for me to get enough people pissed off that they are so mad from my commentary they can’t see straight, and as a result of the cross eyed anger they vote for obama thinking they are actually voting for McCain…
JM08, your analytical and ivestigatory skills amaze me.
Sadly, the Democrat elites playe dpolitics with this, and prevented two strong, outspoken women from shining a light on this very important issue.
I am glad to see that those A-holes exposed for the threats against the Jewish groups that forced the disinvite of Sarah Palin.
It would have been great to have both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin speaking on this issue front and center. A missed opportunity for sure.
How many missed opportunies have we women had over the years because we chose to go along to get along? As a woman, I’m disgusted that two intelligent women were pushed out of this event for political reasons and there is no outrage about it in the MSM.
Having worked in corporate American for 15+ years, I’ve made the decision a few times to go along in order to keep my project funded because I knew that ultimately that project was going to significantly help the company and thus our customers. Doing so turned out to be at the expense of my own career. When push came to shove, they knew that they could push hard enough for me to cave “for the sake of the company.”
I don’t understand anymore why Hillary is going along with these vote-stealing thugs. I’ll have to take a hard look at this when all of the information is in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1ZDSHW_ds&feature=email
This will make you soooooooooooooo mad, and sad and all range of emotions.
Had a glass wine. I have sufficiently chilled now.
Our Hillary is definitely not herself these days. And ‘our’ (my former) party disappoints as well. So many years ago, I heard Candidate or President Bill Clinton carefully explain the differences between Republicans and Democrats. He said: Republicans are ‘Party First’. Democrats ‘think’. Well. Was he wrong? Or did things change?
“The groups sponsoring the rally against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN were reportedly told, “it could jeopardize their tax exempt status” if they had Palin and not Clinton or Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden on hand.”
Somewhere something has seriously changed and I’m not liking it. Hillary was invited and for what ever her reasons (I’m thinking she didn’t want to give the media the chance to fake a show of Hillary vs Palin) she backed out. I don’t understand then why the disinvite for Palin. That makes no sense to me – why threaten the tax exempt status just because one politician was going to be there? It was a rally, what’s the big deal? What, Obama and the media didn’t get their catfight? Hillary isn’t running for President or Vice President so how can she be considered on the same page as Sarah or Biden?
I took a look at Palin’ speech that she was going to give at that rally, she was clear and precise in what was needed to be done against Iran, unfortunately I also saw Hillary’s speech and in it Hillary played politics not saying too much or committing herself to direct action.
That is one thing am I starting to like about Palin she say exactly what is on her mind and have to fear as to how the media views it or not.
SJ could you post a link to those speeches? I didn’t know they had been released.
Why should they worry about their tax-free status?
Rev.Wright’s church was theatened with that after he blatantly preached politics and he came out of it without so much as a reprimand.
Obama was invited to one of those types of rallies (anti-war) where he gave his “famous” restaged speech and used as a political platform and there was’nt a peep about tax-free status being compromised.
yeah he’s wrong. clinton is talking about what was and not what is now.
Things changed. I remember those days . . . that was back in the day when I could without reservation wear my “Friends don’t let friends vote Republican” t-shirt while campaigning for Bill, Ted, and Barney . . . a lot of people – democrats even – found it offensive, but I have a feeling those “politically correct” dems are these days dissing Palin and would be more than proud to wear the same t for Soetoro’s sake . . . now the only thinking thing to do is vote republican. Oh, the irony! when your own organization catches a rotting disease from its opposition . . . when it lowers itself to the lowdown cheatin’ lyin’ opponents’ level . . . the Dems are now the horrific election-stealers among us.
If this didnt lose the Jewish vote, what will?
Does nobama have to wear a friggin’ hilter moustachio?
Well, that was what some folks said in the video – Democrats who will NOT be voting for the Democratic ticket this year. Apparently, the DNC hasn’t yet learned that some of us don’t take well to bullying and intimidation!
Been there done that. Throwing the kitchen sink doesn’t work jm08.
I’m glad to read an update of this event. Hillary drank the kool aid. Let it go. She didn’t want to fight for us.
But looky here> http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml
And for the polling fanatics and in depth review.
http://www.bigtenpoll.org/analysis.html
I wonder what’s really behind this story of Hillary and Palin. It may just be that they didn’t want to give Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin positive air time.
Excuse me for being not quite on topic here, but I thought everyone would want to see the FANTASTIC COMMENT I just got at my blog – PUMAS have helped someone see the light!!
From Denise:
I have to admit that I was in the tank for Obama up until last week. Nothing in particular happened to get me off his plantation. I just started reading alot on the internet and followed links. I wandered into Freerepublic to see what “the other side” was up to……..and I learned a new word….”PUMA.” Oh my gosh…..I WOKE UP. REBORN. HUGE LIGHTBULB WENT ON. I’M A PUMA and didn’t realize it. I just thought I HAD to vote for a democrat because that’s what I’ve always been. I didn’t know there was a zillion people out there just like me. THANK YOU!!
(I went to Freerepublic and found this link here).
PS—-I’m now calling myself an INDEPENDENT. I don’t know if I can ever be a republican, but their stances don’t sound bad. Just taking baby steps and will see what happens.
http://hillaryorbust.com/2008/09/my-palin-pledge-to-all-female-palin-haters/
That’s the reason we need foot soldiers in the swing states to pass out “About Obama” flyers and let them know they do not have to vote Dem this year. Flyers can be gotten at http://www.realdemocratsusa.blogspot.com
They can be put on cars in parking lots and handed out at rallies and wal-mart. http://www.clintons4mccain.com may have flyers too. We need foot soldiers in PA as well as the other big 10 states.
I’m not in a swing state, but I’ve done that for realdems and it was gratifying spreading the word to people who probably hadn’t heard!
interesting example. If only that was nationwide and prevalent….maybe it is.
CNN poll is troubling to me …. obama at 51
CNN = Complicit (in election fraud) “News” Network
“CNN = “Communist News Network”
lol!
That was a great post, sister.
I dont give a shit if I get banned. [GOOD. SINCE YOU WERE BANNED A HALF HOUR AGO - ADMINISTRATOR.]
75% of the people on this site are more concerned with [DELETED FOR LEWD LANGUAGE], then attacking him.
The few of us who advocate and lay out the groundwork for a potent devastating attack against obama, are always being attacked by the posters like fred mcberfle that do nothing but [DELETED FOR LEWD LANGUAGE],.
why is that fred mcberfle always attack the people that advocate the harshest attacks on obama, its because he is a [DELETED FOR LEWD LANGUAGE],
This site is turning into a daily kos jr.
BUNCH OF [DELETED FOR LEWD LANGUAGE], TROLLS
[ADMINISTRATOR: YOU CLEARLY HAVE ISSUES WITH REPRESSED SEXUAL DESIRES THAT, CONSCIOUSLY, YOU FIND DISGUSTING -- WHICH EXPLAINS YOUR DISPLAY OF A DISINTEGRATED PERSONALITY DISORDER. I SUGGEST YOU GET PROFESSIONAL HELP SOON.]
Perhaps there’s a place you’d feel more comfy, cozy….like a padded room maybe?
I think your lithium dosage needs a bit of tweaking.
I disagree JM. I’m centrist, but pro-McCain. This site has been on the cutting edge of Obama information. Seriously. They’re my first link on my blog for Anti-Obama. I stand by that. People here realize that, notwithstanding political affiliation, it would be a very drastic turn for the nation if it was turned over to Obama, versus McCain being a relatively centrist choice, as Clinton would have been.
http://www.centristnetblog.com
My guess is that JM08 is a big, ugly troll doing its best to bait and trap.
Ignore him, and then get him banned. His intent is to make the NQ commenters look bad and as ugly as JM08 is (bet its an Obama-boy).
yes. i do believe you are right…no…in fact i know you are right.
He’s been a great big pain in the ass for some time now–rude, crude, off-topic and perverse.
He’ll probably turn up under another name, as they do–how else will he collect his seven bucks an hour?
JM08, I object to your language and your attitude. I think you should be banned from this site. You think you can turn it into what you want and think it should be. What makes you think you have the right to change this blog?
Sounds to me like Hillary didn’t want to share this event w Sarah Palin either because she’s a woman or a Republican or both. If Hillary is trying to preserve a run in 2012 by sniffing Obama’s ass, this won’t help her. Sarah was gracious and gave Hillary a big nod at her VP announcement. She should have attended for the sake of the meaning behind it. If someone from Obambi’s campaign strong armed her then shame on her for not saying go to hell. She should have done that weeks ago.
I think it was a smart move on Hillary’s part to not attend.
you are entitled to your opinion, I disagree. She has offered no reason for backing out. If it was legitimate and reasonable, she should have said so.
The media would have made it about Hillary v Palin, not the event, which is a worthy one.
Then any kind of handshake or collaboration between the two would be seen as “evidence Hillary is not supporting Barack”.
If it was about inviting VP candidates, Biden should have been there. If it was about inviting exiting women leaders, there are others that could have been tapped.
HRC smelled a trap. She was right to do this. She is not going to make this election about her. It’s about Barack.
Wodiej,
What you need to remember is that Hillary is a Democrat and she hasn’t attacked Sarah, nor has Bill.
They have actually been very gracious to both Sarah and John. She was put in a very difficult position by the joint appearance.
She is trying not to be Obama’s tool but she cannot appear to be supporting John and Sarah either.
Why can’t you except that and not look a gift horse in the mouth? Hillary doesn’t owe the Republicans anything.
Or maybe Obama’s people didn’t want her knocking his Iranian buddy, er fellow muslim.
I agree Hillary should not have attended. No matter what happened at the event the corporate media would try to spin it into something negative. The two women the media likes to trash most at the same event! And the Obamacrats certainly would hate these two women taking the spotlight away from Dear Leader.
Yes, some purposes were served by her staying away, and others would have been served by her going, I expect she took her path for good reasons.
If she and Palin had both gone, somehow I think that would have been more than a certain fascist candidate could have taken. Imagine, two strong popular women on stage getting ovations! Ooh that would hurt. I bet he pulled strings on both sides to keep them from looking good together.
Hey, Bill took care of knocking down any “clintons love obama” rumors, and he did a good job of being nice in the process. See the cuts from You Tube and CNBC, bill did a great job.
Talked about not “fabricating” a record for Obama. Ahahah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98
Fantastic video! He’s a great man.
Absolutely. And a fair minded individual who gives McCain the respect he deserves, regardless of party.
I heart Bill Clinton
will vote
McCain/Palin ‘08
It’s not as easy as all of that unfortunately. Hillary has to walk a fine line right now to preserve her integrity and maintain herself for 2012. She must outwardly back Obama or get screwed by the corrupt leadership of the DNC until we vote those ass clowns out of office. She also can not smack Gov Palin around right now. Face it, against Hillary, Palin would lose and lose badly. But Palin is better than Obama! So if Clinton were to resoundingly embarrass Palin, she would be effectively making Obama seem better then lose all chance at the White House in 2012. We can deal with McCain for four years, but should the anointed one win…I think we would see Republican Presidents from 2012-2024 atleast. The same as happened after Carter! You get a true incompetent in the White House, and the country doesn’t forgive you for a long time. Thats why this year should have been a slam dunk for Democrats, but the DNC was determined to screw it up.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. If Obama wins things are going to be so screwed up the country will not elect another Democrat for many years.
I keep wondering if the Democrats are planning on having a Bush-Cheney kind of presidency for Obama-Biden. You know, where Bush keeps the responsibilities he likes doing like throwing out the first baseball of the season, meeting the Super Bowl winners, making the Christmas video (with Barney of course), etc. Then Bush delegates his powers to Cheney to do everything he doesn’t want to be bothered with.
Thank you, POdVet. I’m also thinking that Prez Obama would be “Jimmy Carter 2.0″.
The thing is, Hillary has gone out of her way to work across the aisle. Republicans have even acknowledged her work. I just don’t think that’s it. Especially since the Jewish organizations were threatened over their tax-exempt status. Telling, very telling…
wodie, did you see Hillary’s speech to the congress on the economy last week? I have a reason for this question and it is relevant to your comment and you may not like what I have to say. Hillary shines! In the primary debates, she was the focus of every one’s attention even if some of it was negative. If Hillary had agreed and made that speech, it would have been devastating for Gov. Palin. I want McCain to win this election and I like Gov. Palin. In a face to face meeting with Hillary, and have to give a competing speech, could not be good for Palin.
She didn’t want to be FORCED to do BIDEN’s WORK.
I don’t blame her.
Obama picked his ticket–it’s not her job to “do battle” with Palin.
She was SMART to get the fuck out of that gig toute suite.
Eurogirl70-
I NEVER hid the fact I am republican.
FUCK YOU OBOTS !!!!
Barak HUSSEIN Obama cant win !!!!!!
This site is infested with undercover obama trolls, and mccain supporters that dont have the balls to stand up to them.
You are out of your mind. You have no idea what you are saying. Foul language is not allowed.
Now, now, let’s give JM08 his due. It’s a miracle that he can communicate with us at all, given that his straitjacket compels him to type with an unsharpened pencil held between his teeth.
So much for taking care of spammers.
The only real question is why Hillary Clinton refused to appear as she has gone to this event several times before. Why doesn’t she want to appear at the same event as Sarah Palin? Politicians of different parties appear together at some events…Bill Clinton is having John McCain as his opening speaker at his forum. What is going on?
Because it isn’t HER JOB to be Palin’s alter ego, that’s why.
Rather than disinvite Palin, they should have invited BIDEN.
It’s not Clinton’s PROBLEM, see? She’s out of it.
She has to “support the party ticket” but she doesn’t have to hang her ass out for Obama.
There are LIMITS. She drew the line, and good for her.
Obama and the DNC have repeated demonstrated that nothing is beneath them in their quest for power; hell, they rigged the nomination process itself to provide the result they wanted, what makes anyone think they are not above collaborating with a foreign power if that’s what it takes? These people will stop at nothing.
I agree. And also it denotes a sexist denominator of the proportional relationship.
Palin/Sexism = Subservitude/Silence Women
Solve the problem
Palin X Silence Women / Subservitude = 1 / Sexism
where 1 / Sexism = Misogamy
jm08, you are off your rocker holmes.
You are causing an argument on every thread your in and never stop.
As for the cnn poll.
Goeff, it is hard for me to be objective with anything cnn does. They are sucking obama’s balls and trying to swing into the whithouse on them.
I agree CNN is in Obama’s pocket, but less than NBC, more than ABC. Still, its a number above 50 – only Newsweek before now…..scary….Obama could actually freaking win. I feel like a tiny voice in an ocean of America that will have no effect in stopping Obama because of the media bias.
Take the ad on McCain’s typing, because of his disability, that Obama made fun of. I hit Politico and Tapper hard to report it, and they finally did, but not in hard enough terms to make it a story.
Another example is the SS lie (showing up in CNN numbers with senior move to Obama) and the Rush race baiting ad.
I’m concerned that the ABC hack editing of Palin’s first interview hurt as well as the economic meltdown. I’m hoping this will be rectified in the debates.
I don’t think the Debates will help McCain. There has to be a relentless attack in October as see if something sticks to Obama. Otherwise, I don’t know.
But I would stay with Palin. I think she will beat Obama in October.
“scary….Obama could actually freaking win.”
it could be 70% for barko and McCain could still win.
so too could barko if the polls were reversed.
Paul. I know this is repeated information, but it should be repeated. Time-Warner (CNN owner) is Obama’s 15th largest contribution source. You stand supported in your opinion of them.
It’s a shame it’s come to this. Instead of various politicians speaking out on the issues it’s definitely become the “politics of fear and smear” to quote John Kerry.
Now the fear is: vote for Obama or be branded a racist. Or: Palin will force you all to have children and overturn Roe v Wade. That would make Palin more powerful than Cheney. Even he didn’t pull that off. Pretty good for Palin, a woman that has been painted as an air head powder puff.
If the DNC has this much clout without the election of their hand-picked candidate imagine what they’ll do if they get the WH.
The DNC does realize that the Jewish vote carries a lot of weight in NY state. So what are they trying to do here? Kill two birds with one stone?
Alienate the Jewish vote from Clinton and take down Palin? Pretty stupid. They just helped put that voting block in the Republican column.
Don’t forget Florida.
And great point abt NY.
Their shortsightedness is staggering.
Bill O’Rielly asked someone today why the comments against Gov. Palin have been so vicious. The obvious reason would be the Obama camp knows she can take it all away from them.
I would have loved to see these two talented women who happen to be, politicians. Unfortunately, I know with the horrendous misogyny in the press and elsewhere we’ve seen, it’s hard to face an event that the media would try to turn into a cat fight, but it would be, and will be at some point in the future, to see the two of them together discussing their ideas.
I loved hearing Hillary discussing the current chaos in financial markets. She’s the only one who addressed it wholistically by stating that a systemic fix was needed, that got at the roots of the problem. No one else has said that, nor given ideas how you do that.
John McCain and Obama are off in left field, Obama, worst of all.
RRRA. Did you ever find a quote directly from Hillary stating why she backed out of this event. I am still at a loss for an understanding why this fighter would back down from any stage. Did the announcement that she would not show with Palin come from the Obama campaign, or is there an official Hillary statement?
I have not seen one.
I would really like to know why, too.
Howard Wolfson said today that the reason Hillary backed out was that she thought it was only an elected official thing, not candidates. Once she found that out, she thought it was inappropriate for the two of them to be there, or something like that. And that the organizers didn’t want it to be partisan, thus the uninviting of Palin (never mind that the Obama camp said they were going to send someone).
Yeah, the anchors didn’t buy it, either.
Previously, she said, or her people did, that she was blindsided by this. But still – as I have said, she has consistently played well with others, so her refusal to appear on stage with Palin just seemed so out of character to me.
Governor Palin is an elected official.
Russia is sending a Naval squadron to Venezuela, let’s keep the puppet show vs. Iran going on instead.
If you want to flip the model, get in w/Iran now to hedge Russia. Their development facilitates our development of buffer zones in east Europe for Rummy’s missile shield, which is a also a slap to Putin.
Iran is already friends w/China, a direct result of George Snubya Bush’s cajoling the West into a cold shoulder regarding Iran. Since the Chinese treasury owns us thanks to Dubya’s tax cuts for billionaires maybe you’d better pay attention to who calls the shots and with what money it is done.
We could triangulate Iran vs. our own client states Israel and Saudi Arabia to keep business as usual for the MIC and still have added gain of isolating Al Qaeda to new levels regarding the regional ally that is teetering at this time, Pakistan.
Iran distrusts Al Qaeda, get with them to take away a large swath of influence on the tribal frontier.
The ability to challenge these non state actors by talking amenably with state actors could help reshape some of the most dangerous short term tracks we have going.
Peg benchmarks to reparations for the two state solution. This could create the capital necessary to reinforce the banking infrastructure that has taken major hits from the Chalabi type gutting of countries there, and America’s own system on its subprime charade.
Doing this interactively could restore some of the dollar’s influence. Iran is the major player, we set up Iraq with the Shi’ite majority. If the states are Balkanized we are alienating Turkey and the House of Saud. You’re more likely to dilute Shi’ite their power in a federated republic by tagging benchmarks there as well.
This would require setting new standards for the major players involved. Arabia for the Shi’ite, Israel for Palestinians, Syria for several elements, Iraq for the Sunni and Kurds, Iran for the Kurds in exchange for agreed development and tactical assistance in the tribal regions, this would further narrow the non state concerns of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Would it work to full extent? Doubtful, but it is a start and it will accelerate development and scale economies. Doing nothing would accomplish far less.
Everyone will get something out of it. The collateral effects are immeasurably efficient from a cost benefit perspective. The East/West divide could be bridged, or develop economic beachheads established(wage pre emptive trade, not pre emptive war). This type of market penetration could pattern exemplify what is needed in the OAS and elsewhere also, and carry along numerous intelligence opportunities within it that would see us have to expand the IC to meet such a demand and prevent counteroperative penetration’s effectiveness.
When I say I heard Clinton, I heard her on Bloomberg Radio this afternoon, as I was coming back from chores. ( Not the YouTube which I didn’t watch.) Her comments were succinctly stated, explaining the problem and how to address it. I thought, That’s it! She’s got it! The only one… Sigh.
scorbs I read the transcript and it was the most detailed proposal offered by anyone. The seven points she offered for solutions from bailing out homeowners to setting up an oversight agency for banking institutions. She makes so much sense and I hope they listen to her.
Geoff-
Larry and Susan I am sure did not intend for this site to become a safe haven for undercover obama trolls, but thats what happened.
You got posters like fred mcberfle and benny that have been [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR FOR LEWD LANGUAGE] since they came on this board, and are very subtley encouraging everyone else to do so.
Try advocating a harsh stance against obama, and you will see all the undercover obama trolls come out in force against you.
JM, I guess I’ll have to see for myself.
I do know the posts are rock solid, even if they refuse to put up any of my posts.
http://www.centristnetblog.com
and JM08 is one of them. only Obama supporters use that foul language and hateful rhetoric. he’s trying to be an agent provocateur to get anti-Obama people to join in his hate, and thus discredit PUMAs.
Paul3triple-
I dont think you are a undercover obama troll, but you have defiantly let them influence you.
Dont worry I will go back with my own kind, where the main objective is to DESTROY obama, but be rest assured it will be known that no quarter has now turned into a safe haven for obama trolls.
NO QUARTER now needs to be treated like daily kos.
New nic but this person sounds like that Obama troll who wanted this site to ‘admit’ it was in the tank for McCain when Larry posted about the Michelle tape.
“It” is using reverse psychology.
Damn, I’ve been told I’m an undercover Obamabot and I didn’t even know it. I better let my wife know really quickly before I become absorbed.
You know, it must take all the fun out of life thinking you know everything like JM08 does.
It must be the fascist style of operating. Ignore the person and they don’t exist? Like not allowing Vice Presidential candidate Palin to attend. It’s dissing big time. Sounds like one of Pelosi’s ideas.
I have faith in Senator Clinton and President Clinton. If Senator Clinton had to back out of this event I imagine she received the same pressure from the DNC and Obama as did the Jewish group holding the conference. I don’t care what anybody says, unless I hear it from her mouth, I will believe she was pressured into backing out by the DNC and Obama. And Oh My God, who believes anything CNN says or anything that the mass news media says? Duh? They have been in the tank for Obama including O’Reilly being soft on Obama. Hannity is the only one trying to get some truth out. Even Lou Dobbs is going after both candidates instead of pounding out what he ALREADY knows about Obama just like O’Reilly. Of course, Lou does work for CNN so it adds up. Don’t let people distort who Senator Clinton is, believe in her, she cannot tell you what is going on right now.
Well she’s sending out emails asking everyone to go door knocking for Obama/Biden. Is that phoney too? Is it that she really doesn’t mean it? She’s lying?
It’s her writing. She is for Obama. Get used to it.
Admin: Not sure if you’re still watching this thread but I think you may have missed one….
Damn straight. HRC is doing what she needs to do. I trust them both.
She needs to do this? and who says?
It is called politics. She is a democrat and did make the commitment to help whoever the candidate was at the beginning of the primaries/caucuses. And unlike most politicians, who are about as able to keep a commitment as they are to keep spending in check, she kept her word. If she didn’t keep her word, she would never be able to make any headway towards the nomination in 2012
That’s the “needs to” part.
As to the “who says” part. That isn’t an answerable question.
What you want is for her to fall on her sword. That’s fine so long as you fall on yours first. This election is no longer about HRC. If that isn’t clear to you, I do not know what else to tell you.
Thanks for this post. I had been wanting to understand this incident better. It’s really crazy. Has the Democratic Party always been like this, or I am just getting my eyes opened?
It pains me to think that Hillary decided not to attend on her own….
A video of Bill Clinton in “The View” you must see. BaBa asks him if Hillary wanted to be VP and if he wanted her to be VP. He hmmms and haaas his way around Joy Bahar’s questions about PUMAS pretty much backing them up in his “diplomatic” way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98
He’s really good at what he does. Head and shoulders over everyone, except — maybe — Hillary.
JM does have a point in being angry with Hillary and I myself do feel some anger for her, lets face it there are people who will vote for Obama just because of their fondest to Hillary.
That is the danger when she is out there giving out these dam Hillary sent me buttons, begging people to vote for him, we all know there are those that will.
For those of us who don’t want to see Obama near the WH we cannot accept what Hillary is doing, some say she has to I don’t feel so, am sure she is aware that she will encourage some people to change their vote, so if that is not her intent.
If she does not want him to win then she could of sit this out, there is no alliance to Obama, Hillary is doing this because and I know you all hate to hear this but it is because she wants to.
The only point that sexist, racist JM08 has lies between his shoulder blades. This former democrat, current PUMA, and HRC supporter always fully intends to vote for McCain. Others might be turned off though by the language used by JM08 who sounds more like an obamabot troll than a McCain supporter. You might not want to sully your reputation through supporting his vile posts. Just something to consider.
Suppose she is doing it because as she says he has more in common with her than McCain. Fine. Now what happens when Oblahblah the chameleon acts more McCain than McCain. Then what. I just heard an Oblahblah ad that lasted about 2 minutes and in every which way Oblahblah was more McCain than McCain. If I had only the text I would think it was McCain. And I know that by Friday, OBlahblah will complete his transformation. McCain will be totally confused. He’ll say, ‘I vote for Oblahblah because he just read from my script.’ I call that the Hillary strategy. Obama is a pathological liar and his technique is ‘the chameleon.’
Now then, will Hillary continue to be for Oblahblah after Friday?
chuckle
Trust me–she HAS TO do what she is doing.
She will not get party backing four years from now if she doesn’t back the nominee.
That’s the way it works. She can’t demand party loyalty in four years if she doesn’t exhibit it NOW.
You have to THINK FOR YOURSELF now. Clinton is out of the race, your choice has to come from your own review of the remaining candidates–not from Clinton telling you who to vote for…she HAS to do that. Only someone not paying attention doesn’t realize that she’s gritting her damned teeth when she “endorses” that presumptuous nominee.
HILLARY SOLD YOU PEOPLE OUT JUST LIKE SHE SOLD HER COUNTRY OUT.
AND SHE IS NOW NOTHING MORE THAN A OBAMA FLUNKIE.
I seriously think she will have trouble getting reelected to the senate, nmuch less winning the presidency in 2012.
Everyone has lost all respect for her. She has no credibility. Wasnt the theme of her campaign was that she will fight for you.
Well she did the opposite. She looks weak, easily manipulated, and nothing more than a little weak pawn in obamas game.
Seriously, she is becoming quickly irrelevant in the political scene.
She made a terrible miscalculation when she decided to throw her lot in with the messiah
I’m not happy with her backing Obama, but I think she was in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” position. Remember, at the time of her concession, the mainstream media and Keith Olbermann were foaming at the mouth over her in the way they are now about Palin. Hillary was being branded a nutjob for pressing her case. She was likened to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
Given that she did NOT have the party behind her (like Palin does), I don’t think Hillary could have easily gone off on her own to fight this.
I’m still not thrilled, I’m not giving her a pass either, I’m just saying I remember how horrible the atmosphere was towards her and this is the only way she got hte media to shut up about her and focus on something else.
Administrator-JM08 Needs to be banned, this has gone on too long and too often.
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If this means what I think it says, administrator, then thank you!!
Oh, thank God! I was about to have to ask for the same.
I was disappointed that Hillary backed out, too. I really thought it would be great to see both strong women speaking. A really nice opportunity. I have to say that I decided I had to part ways when I received her latest email telling me I should fight for Obama like I fought for her and go out and knock on doors and make phone calls. I did work very hard for Hillary and I don’t regret it for one minute and I understand that she is in a political squeeze with O’Bambi but enough is enough. I don’t think he has been generous in her campaign debts either. She needs to ease away from this loser. Sadly, I had to unsubscribe today. I just couldn’t bear to see or hear any more of her words supporting that jerk.
I agree. If she wasn’t supporting Obama I would cut her some slack. But I find no reasonable excuse for this given how extremely dangerous and unqualified Obama is. The welfare of us and our country is at stake. I know alot of people want to excuse that and that is their right. But I just can’t. I admire her run for President, and I too do not regret in helping. But I will not help her get Obama in office.
Hillary won the Primary. She was just 17 delegates away from being tied. She bailed. Whatever. I’m voting for Moose shooting mamma and her harley davidson. That’s final.
wodie, you would “cut her some slack”? Generous of you. I may have to leave this blog which was, when I first came here, a pro-Hillary site. My choice is either stay home or vote for McCain. I’m pretty sure Hillary won’t be on the ballot, but I guess until the day she dies, everything will be her fault and she will be responsible for not fixing all the problems. I TRUST HER AND I HOPE SHE ALWAYS DOES WHAT SHE THINKS RIGHT. She would have, IMO, outshone Gov Palin with her speech and knowledge. Someone set this situation up and whoever did was trying to use Hillary and my bet is on Obama. Who invited both and for what reason? To protest Iran’s nuclear program? I don’t think so because this has obviously gotten more press than the protest. I didn’t hear anything other than a few seconds of a speech and the entire thing has turned into a political fight. Leave Hillary the hell alone!!!!!!!!!
Elise, I’m still PRO-HILL, and I have my eye on the prize four years from now.
McCain is a PLACE HOLDER, nothing more.
You’ve got some rabid Republicans who’ve come on in here and they’re overreaching a bit–it’s turning me off a bit, too. I don’t like the shitty remarks about liberals (I’m a liberal–I like social programs, being nice to old people, sick people, kids, that kind of thing) and I don’t appreciate a lot of the broad-brushed trashing of progressive causes. I simply think Obama is a cretinous idiot who is NOT a liberal–in fact, he’s a duplicitious little toad who will do and say anything to win. He has no center, no core, no set of established values. He’ll throw grandma, the gays, and anyone who’s “inconvenient” under that “Bullshit Express” bus of his.
I’m also a fan of a cohesive national security policy, and that’s why I am a CLINTON FAN. She “gets” international relations–Obama does not.
And for these reasons, McCain will “do”–he’s preferable to Obama, but neither one of them can hold a candle to Clinton.
So I’ll WAIT. Four more damned years….
I’m in complete agreement, Clinton Fan, that Obama simply would be dangerous in the White House. When anyone makes a comment blaming Hillary, I always wonder what the agenda is since they claim to be former supporters. I don’t mind McCain’s campaign reaching out to us. It’s nice to feel my vote matters after being told by the DNC they can win without the Democratic base, which I guess isn’t really the base anymore since this is a different party than the one I supported for so many years. I have no doubt Hillary will RISE above all of it with more power than before and will be able to accomplish even more after this election is over and done. When I am angry, I try to think about the day the Senate convenes for the first time in 2009. Obama and Biden will still be there and John McCain will be sitting in the Oval Office. How do you think he is going to react to the idea of being the junior senator from ILL for another four years? Maybe he will resign!!!!!!!
Clinton Fan and Elise, I agree with both you. Hillary has to do what she must to survive, politically, and be viable next go around. That’s a political reality. I’m much angrier with the organizations, my favorite NOW, and the others, and feminists like Gloria Steinem coming out in support of this Fraud. Has he somehow metamorphosed into a butterfly? I don’t think so. He’s still a corrupt Chicago Pol. I hope there are enough of us who will vote McCain/Palin to win them the White House.
The senate may hold a WELCOME BACK party for Barack and Joe in January.
Rev. Amy, thanks for the article and update about what was going on behind the scenes.
Again, I noticed the first line of defense was to blame Hillary Clinton due to Gov. Palin’s disinvitation. However, from other news sources I’ve read the Obama/Biden camp wasn’t going to send anyone and Hillary wasn’t going to be there on their behalf. She was going to be there, as she’s been in the past, as a NY Senator. I think some people seem to forget that she’s still a Senator from NY.
I have noticed both Gov. Palin and Senator Clinton have gone out of their way to not be antagonist or critical of the other. Again, Hillary is in a very bad position. John McCain has been there, done that before.
Hillary is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. She doesn’t win either way with some people.
Hillary is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.
I totally agree with you, RepublicanChick. And this is far from a normal election year, what really doesn’t help.
sorry should read – which really doesn’t help.
Everyone who isn’t a centrist wants her to fall on her sword for their candidate. The GE isn’t about HRC–it is about Oblockhead and McCain. I’m voting for McCain this time but am patiently awaiting 2012.
That makes two of us! McCain this year, but 2012 can’t get here quick enough for me.
I know–it will be a long four years.
Hey, RC -
Absolutely, Hillary is between a rock and a hard place. I am pretty darn sure that SHE was not the one who threatened the tax exempt status of the organizations sponsoring the event to get Palin off.
That being said, it is unfortunate that the Senator from NY felt like she could not attend an event she had previously attended for whatever the reasons were…
And, from what I understand, she has been quite clear that she will NOT go after Palin. Good for her for drawing a line and sticking to it.
see jm08 you are crazy. I tried to stick up and get folks to lay off of you. But becuase i do not take larry sinclair’s word to be gospel and in a mccain ad i am troll.
Whatever man. I volunteer for the campaign what do you do beside freak out on blogs?
I am so pissed at the Demcratic Party right now! I cannot believe how petty and down right awful the whole party has become under the so called leadership of the Obama Camp.. I don’t want these sickos running my government.
McCain/Palin we can trust – they are US!
I like the way you think, Mr. Murder.
HONESTLY
Hillary is not worth bashing anymore.
She is irrelevant.
Her days as a major politcal player are over.
Bashing Hillary is like bashing Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney, it may be easy, but whats the point ?
Obama pulled up in his big purple caddilac with his fur coat and hat with a feather in it, and recruited Hillary to make his money on the street corner. [ADMINISTRATOR: THIS IS RACIST STEREOTYPING AND IS FORBIDDEN ON THIS BLOG. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED TONIGHT, THIS REPREHENSIBLE DESCRIPTION AMONG THEM.]
The more he beat Hillary, the more she wanted to work for him.
Typical [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR FOR LEWD LANGUAGE] relationship Obama and Hillary have
Not nice.
Allow me to go on record JM08 that the day your Fake ass Obama Troll self disguised as a Hillary Hating Republican Troll gets banned can’t come soon enough for me.
Until then, rail on with the fake republican persona and your manufactured talking points from your slimey leader with the funny mustache
David AxelrodAdolf Astroturf!Amen!
I’m sure that Hillary dropped out because she would have outshown Obama AGAIN – and he must have been crying to the powers that “she is still getting more attention tha he is and is affraid that she’ll get all cozy with Sarah if they were at the same event. Can’t have that.
Obama is paranoid.
Exactly I use to wear my Hillary t-shirt now I don’t want to put them on, I cant because I do not want anyone to think am supporting Obama.
I cant support Hillary if she keeps running all over the place singing praises to this man, its time to stop this and if anyone thinks that is wrong ask yourself one question.
If Hillary won this nomination would Obama and Michella be out there trying to encourage the black vote to come to grips with Obama’s loss and vote for Hillary?
uh no, they wouldn’t be. They would be too busy screaming racism and asking for recounts for months.
I submitted this story over the weekend, but seeing as this post pretty much ends the need for it with its analysis, I will just add it as my personal comment here.
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TERRORISTS, THUGS & THE TAXMAN:
JEWISH GROUP THREATENED WITH LOSS OF TAX EXEMPT STATUS OVER PALIN INVITE!
We all know the story.
Bad Man wants Nukes to Blow up the World.
Bad Man comes to United Nations to speak and promote his No Israel No Way No How platform.
Good People unite in a common goal and schedule a Rally and they invite their leaders to speak out against the Bad Man and His Bad Plan.
Partisan Politicking is supposed to take a backseat to Decency and the Desire for a Better Safer World for All.
So what went wrong?
Initial reports in the Main Stream Media
astroturfedsuggested that Clinton was blindsided and withdrew of her own accord and the decision to disinvite Governor Palin was made solely by the organization itself.However, much to no one’s surprise it appears that there is more to this story and it won’t be covered by MSNBOC!
Let’s be clear, Neither Senator Clinton nor Governor Palin was invited to give a speech on their candidacy or lack thereof, nor where they invited to discuss or promote their party positions or their party’s candidate for president. This was billed as a non-partisan event and all speakers would have understood that and respected that. It was not a campaign stop.
More troubling are the rumors beginning to swirl that Hillary was prepared to appear until The Obamassiah got in a tizzy over the potential for a Hillary / Palin appearance becoming a bigger news story than his latest waffle or Non-Plan for the Economy Plan that he told us he wasn’t going to tell us about. It appears that pressure was put on Senator Clinton behind the scenes and she was forced to back out.
And of course
The Obama campaignJoe Biden summarily declined the invitation and subsequently, the Democrat party partisans who had floated thethreatsuggestion that the tax exempt status of the organization would be compromised and they would be investigated and could subsequently lose it if they did not disinvite Governor Palin were the winners of the day.Now that leaks have spring from the left and right that the Organization was pressured and threatened and had no choice but to either disinvite Palin or suffer the wrath of the Democrats, HOTAIR points out that they might want to look at a few other organizations that should worry about their tax exempt status based on these interpretations of equal representation.
So in a nutshell, the two most influential women in the present political arena are invited to speak out at a rally and the partisan Obama demokRats take what should be a non-political non-partisan event and Politrick it into oblivion.
They pressure Senator Clinton to withdraw, and then threaten the loss of the tax-exempt status of the organization if they don’t offer ‘equal representation,’ however Joe Biden won’t be available as he has oh so many reporters on his plane demanding his attention that he just can’t possibly take time out of his busy schedule, and therefore either you get AUDITED and your Tax Exempt status revoked or you disinvite Governor Palin.
I keep coming back to the RSVP issue though, and the fact that this is not a political rally or event in the sense that speakers are coming to promote their own agenda and garner support for their election, but a non-partisan event and billed as such.
But even more troubling, I fail to understand how, If you are invited and you decline to attend, you can prevent other people from attending on the basis of Political Campaign Activity and Tax Exemption obfuscation; does it makes sense to you?
Maybe it does in Barack America where the constitution reads, ‘ We the Bamboozled, in order to form a more perfect union with the One,’ but the last time I checked, this country was still the United States of America.
Well, what are the basic guidelines of Political Campaign Activity and Non-Profit Organization in regards to their tax-exempt status?
So the simple fact is that, extended the offer to both sides seems to solve any issue being put forth.
If the other side chooses not to participate that’s their problem, seems pretty simple to me.
But then I don’t get paid 500 an hour to make mountains out of molehills.
One could argue that maybe I am just a bitter simple simpleton, clinging to my simplicity and my simple speak and my antipathy to convolution and obfuscation as a way to explain my frustration with the complicated folk and their unwillingness to address an issue that seems pretty damn simple.
Now a rally, that would have received massive media coverage, thanks to the appearance of La Clinton and La Palin, and would have put the issue of a Nuclear Iran front and center on the MSM radar and the American dinner table, an issue that most Americans actually are interested in, an issue that is not just another distraction, becomes just another rally and the politics of it just another Obama Manufactured Distraction (Like OMG only with a D) in the name of non-partisanship. It Seems that it became pretty petty and partisan.
How clever of them to distract with a distraction by claiming that we are not interested in distractions. We have seen this type of distraction before from the Obama campaign, all throughout the primaries.
Apparently the only thing that they deem worthy of Americans’ interest is Hope and Change, everything else is a distraction.
These attempts at distracting through distractions that the Obama campaign keeps throwing out to obfuscate the issues and avoid dealing with relevant topics of interest to the educated voter do not hold up to scrutiny. The fact is that the American people are interested in these things that Obama and his surrogates blithely claim are just distractions.
They are interested in who Obama actually is and whether he can be trusted with our country, and what his actual agenda worldview really is. They are interested in who politicians politic behind the scenes for political advantage but deny they did when standing in front of a teleprompter and a news crew.
As Senator McCain pointed out, ‘Change is not a destination, and Hope is not a strategy.’
It is disingenuous to believe for one moment that either Senator Clinton or Governor Palin would have said or done anything but promote the agenda of the rally organizers had they appeared. To imply that either of these women would lack the professionalism to avoid politicking at a non-partisan event or would have done anything during their appearance to take the focus off the event is pure horseshit. They would have done nothing of the sort. Now the MSM and the Obama campaign on the other hand, that’s a different matter.
Yes they would have, in their rush to sensationalize, focused on the Palin / Clinton joint appearance as a potential WWF style Tanya Harding /Nancy Kerrigan Smack-down, but really, has the MSM shown any integrity with any story this election cycle? They were hunting for a pregnancy suits for goodness sake. They (the MSM) clearly have their own agenda and they are going to promote it.
Journalistic integrity is not an option.
Note: Here is the Link to the Youtube Video of the Kerrigan/Harding Smack-down for those of you who want to get the reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTu0HT_hXnw
Will the MSM cover this story behind the story? Don’t bet on it.
Have we seen these thug-like suppression tactics before? Most assuredly we have.
This will get about as much coverage as any other story that shows just how much the Democrats have lost touch with the principles that they founded their party on in their rush to manufacture a historic presidency.
This will get as much coverage as the text messages and emails going out from the Obama campaign telling his
brown-shirtssupporters to flood radio stations with calls armed with a campaign approved list of talking points andterrorize threaten intimidate harassdemand that those who dare question the ONEbama be silenced and their first amendment rights to publicly air their concerns and grievances be revoked in a concerted effort to silence the opposition.Let us not forget that Barack Obama went on TV after the Saddleback Faith Forum and declared that people were LYING about his Later Term Abortion voting record.
He insisted these people were misrepresenting his votes, views and position.
He lashed out angrily and peevishly time and again that these Lying Liars were Peddling Lies as a way to distort his record!
Note: Here is the Link to the Youtube Video of the Obama Lying about his vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBj9mzqOIU
Of course the next day we found out it was Barack Obama who was Lying and his own campaign even admitted it, although they were careful not to call Barack L Lying Liar who was peddling Lies as a way to cover up his own record.
When it comes to the truth and the American people, Barack Obama wants to make sure that the truth they get is the truth he wants them to get.
It seems that the actual “Inconvenient Truth” will NOT get in the way of his truth if he, his campaign, his surrogates, his hopium-addled followers, or his Media Pom-Pom Brigade have anything to do with it.
Tell me Senator Obama, is silencing dissent as patriotic as paying more taxes.
Of course back in Merry New England, a few Bostonians had a problem with the idea of ‘Taxation without Representation’ and promptly turned Boston Harbor into a giant cup of tea.
Apparently they didn’t have Starbuck’s back then, and we should all be grateful.
The Boston Latte Party just doesn’t sound very historic.
Anyone remember the good old days when the government officials used Tax Audits as a threat to get people to cooperate with them?
How about the Really Good Old Days when vicious rumor, sleazy innuendo and unsubstantiated stories where circulated to the public to incite and outrage? Often times an angry mob was all too happy to show up at your door with torches and kindling.
While Senator Obama can lie in church that ‘Selma Got Me Born’ as away to lay claim to civil rights street credibility, there were quite a few people who could lay legitimate claim to Salem; Salem got them burned. **
Looks like La Barbra was right. Happy days are here again!
** Note: Yes it has been well established that while burning witches at the stake was common practice all over the world during the days of the Salem Witch Trials, in England and the Colonies, most of those who were accused and found guilty were hanged and not burned at the stake. However, in deference to the anagram (Selma -Salem) and the rhythm of the prose (born – burn) I chose to pull an Obama (ignore historical facts) in the service of the narrative.
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Anyway if you made it through all that, those were my thoughts that I spent part of my saturday afternoon on.
You did a great job, Jeremiah. Thanks for the info.
I was wondering where you were on Saturday Jeremiah. We appreciate the time you took to compile all this.
NICELY done, Jeremiah. Excellent work!
thanks. hope you dont mind me posting it here. seemed like it belonged with the story.
I am reading through the comments and the articles from the 22nd due to the distraction of employment sans computer screen available.
And had to belatedly thank RRRA and JGDAW for their absolutely fine reads. You both say it loud and proud with no hint of cloud.
I read the headlines and catch the drift of what is current then go back to where I left off so as not to miss gems like this one.
A+ analysis.
Thanks, Rev.
I hope this gets published somewhere on the blogs soon. I appreciate the time and thought you put into your article.
Well done!
Thank you.
It appears that pressure was put on Senator Clinton behind the scenes and she was forced to back out.
Thank you, Jeremiah! It’s been in the back of my mind that Obama had something to do with Hillary not participating. It’s the way this guy works!
I did read the whole thing! Especially:
Of course back in Merry New England, a few Bostonians had a problem with the idea of ‘Taxation without Representation’ and promptly turned Boston Harbor into a giant cup of tea.
Apparently they didn’t have Starbuck’s back then, and we should all be grateful.
The Boston Latte Party just doesn’t sound very historic. (Except maybe to Obama and his supporters!) LOL
Thank you for your terrific post!!
The other thing pulling at the edge of my brain is that by not having the big protest rally and speeches, the event got less press overall. Which might be nice for BO, whose very very very good friend Jarrett is apparently having a big Hyatt dinner for her fellow Iranian sometime soon.
So less profile for the visitor = less fallout from BO’s scummy associates’ friends? ??
Never underestimate the Clintons. They have to walk a fine line, and for now, they are doing what they have to do. She’ll be back in 4 years and stronger than ever. I have no doubts about it.
I totally agree.
She has my vote in 2012!
Please. Why would she come back in 2012 when she won the primary (at least she was tied by 17 delegates) and they kicked her out? It doesn’t make sense. Why would they want her in 2012? what will change?
You need to read Jeremiah’s post again.
Hillary Clinton has lost my respect and my vote.
I understand the speech at the DNC. Continuing to shill for obarfo is over and above. She is the only national figure campaigning and begging us to support barfo.
My republican friends who voted for her in the primary will never vote for her again. What I hear constantly is that she didn’t stand up for herself.
This latest incident has made me realize that she does not put our country’s interest above her own.
She is not half the woman Sarah Palin is.
She is on a campaign BUS going from town to town telling people to vote for the dangerous ONE.
Buh Bye Hillary. I hope the kool aid wasn’t bitter.
wake up.
They are holding a gun to the Clinton’s Political Head.
If Hillary doesn not make a reasonable attempt to go out and campaign for and support that POS liar they will blame his loss on her, destroy the clintons fully and run Obama again in 2012.
The only way she can survive and be there to help rebuild is if she puts on a good show, and he loses and they blame racism not the clintons.
Then she can start the meme quitely that she told them so, that she had more votes, that they would have won with her and over the course of the next 3 years rid the party of the Axelfraud Obummer assholes and rebuild and run again.
You play checkers with your votes once every year.
The Clintons play chess.
The game is not the same.
You don’t fire with fire, You fight fire with water. Burning her bridges now when clearly they are all headed over the cliff and refuse to turn back doesn’t do anyone any good.
She fought for us during the primaries and we let her down. we were not there for her in the beginning when it mattered. we only came at the end.
Now its our turn to fight for her with our votes.
Ensure Obama loses.
Accept that she must campaign for him to not be destroyed in the party and still be standing after the explosion on november 4.
only that way can she fight again for us and return in 2012.
Its really not terribly complicated unless you think the world is black and white.
Thank you Rev Amy for the great post and Jeremiah for your comment. I’m really curious why there are still attacks on Hillary even though she is out of the race? She is being pulled by both sides to do something that would only hurt her in the end. I don’t believe many of the critical comments on this site who say they voted for Hillary. If you are really one of the eighteen million, you trust her. There is an effort here to highjack this blog and it becomes more intense everyday. I keep reading and commenting here because of people like the two of you.
If I remember right, during her speech at the Democratic Convention, she released her delegates to vote according to their conscience (to that effect).
Reading between the lines, she was directing that to you and me, her supporters. Even she said to vote Obama, she wants us to vote the way we want ! That’s my interpretation & besides, I own my vote!
For my country, I will vote McCain/Palin ‘08; Hillary ‘12 ! NOOBAMA !(he is too PHONY )
He surrounds himself of thugs.
God Bless America !
Like it or not…she is the last First Lady of the Democratic Party and she is the sitting Democratic Senator from the state of New York.
She will try and save the party from her position as a leader within the party.
Expecting her to quit the Dems with such positions on her resume. Or expecting her run as Independent because they stabbed her in the back makes no sense. To make such a shift would be cowardly in long view of history because she dropped the fight to save her party. But she also cuts her power within the Senate by going Independent.
I don’t expect her to cut her nose off to spite her face or that of her husband’s legacy either. They are living to fight another day and continue to build support by helping down ticket Dems. Their knowledge of the inside makes it the best possible postion to fight from.
Previously I thought, Hillary not going to this event was better for both Clinton and Palin. The media would have portrayed it as a cat fight. But Rev made interesting comments about the development of the back story which point to several possibilities.
What if the real probelm is that both women would have risen to occasion and outshined the One?
Certainly, Hillary would have delivered and if you look at Palin’s comments. She would have performed better than Obama’s early attempts reaching the Jewish community because of her authenticity and clear bipartisan support.
It could have in one moment been double the devastation for Obama. Having both Hillary and Sarah looking more presidential than him.
Joe Lieberman put his country ahead of party, and he is a former democratic vice presidential nominee. Joe Lieberman is a true patriot who clearly gets it.
Hillary Clinton is nothing but a calculating self centered fraud. Who has now made herself look like a weak fool.
How can Obama make her drop out ? LOL
She didnt want another woman to make it to the white house before her. She wanted to be the one to break the glass cieling. She never gave a shit about womens rights, she just used that as a way to get votes, but the truth is she would rather have this country ran by a muslim sympathizer, and have women set back 20 years, than have another woman steal her show.
i know the truth hurts but accept it
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Comment by JM08 | 2008-09-22 19:42:37 |
I replied to that one: Not nice.
I repeat: Not nice.
You can choose to be nice or not. Criticizing political leaders like Hillary is healthy. Bashing, in my opinion, is not.
Hillary is NOT a Fraud. Obama is.
Dear JM08 please flip your self over. You are using the wrong orofice to spew your bile.
Bill Clinton is on Letterman tonight.
Just wanted to let everybody know, if they didn’t already. It will be nice to see the Big Dog again.
Just hope he doesn’t lay it on TOO thick for Bambi.
PUMA
Jerimia. What happened to your last post? I swear I saw it here. You said what I wanted to say with gusto. Wordpress needs to go to Oracle or MS-SQL. These lightweight database backends they use are not up to the 1/2 million NQ readers load.
huh? what post?
Please do not pull my leg. I am sure I saw you give some fine words to JM08. Not the flip yourself over one. Just before that.
So it is me? Am I reading what I hope people will say?
scroll up. its higher up in the thread.
You mean this one i think:
YES! That is it. When the page is reloading it seems to jump to a few previous places a visitor has been (good foxfire trick – not) while it is loading. Not the server. Like I said – me.
I want to say what I feel, but I always end up editing before hitting Add comment. Shucks. There you go. Gotta have someone else say what I really wanted to say.
Thanks.
This is sickening – women’s rights are already being rolled back in this country. Because of the a-hole at the top of the Dem ticket.
Hillary is now a shrinking violet – and one of the most high-profile anti-woman leaders in the world will not hear her speak out against him.
Obama does not share American values, because two of the most high-profile political women in the world have been shooed away from this rally because of Obama.
If Bill lays it on Letterman like he did on The View today he will get votes for McCain/Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dns6oX4p98
It is time people on this site decide what this site is going to be all about.
My desire to have obama brutally destroyed by any means cannot be questioned. I have advocated nothing less than going nuclear on obama. I have never tried to talk anybody out of getting down and dirty against obama.
yet the same people that try to discredit my message of destroying obama, by calling me a troll, are the same people that will also tell you to be mellow and take it easy on obama.
I AM SICK OF THIS SHIT.
PEOPLE ON THIS SITE NEED TO TREAT THIS LIKE THIS IS WAR.
THESE UNDERCOVER BOTS LIKE FRED MCBERFLE, BENNY, REPUBLICAN CHICK that come on this site and try to discredit everyone that wants to destry obama, and at the same time advocate the kids gloves for obama are ruining this site.
TIME TO SEND THEM BACK TO KOS
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I am with you on the destroying Obama. His filthy campaign and the DNC have ruined America and this election. This is like being in the sandbox with the bully who will beat the crap out of anyone and cheat any way possible to win. Anyone voting for Obama is mentally ill. Period. And hates America. I have watched Obama and the voter fraud, the lies, the dissing of Hillary, the sexism, the whiny baby tantrum over Palin, the smears and lies about Palin, including that HORRIFYING CRAP about her special needs baby. Obama and the AMERICA SUCKS WORLD TOUR, the 100 MILLION DOLLAR TOGA PARTY AT MILE HIGH, ALL OF IT ARE A DISGRACE TO AMERICA AND SO IS HE. I have been doing, and will continue to do, what I can in my part of the world to destroy him. He is the most dangerous, sick candidate in our history and his negativity has permeated this country and made it into a cesspool. God Damn America? NO God Damn Obama. This is it. Anyone voting for him should be DEPORTED AS A TRAITOR.
Republican chick is not an OBOT. You are the OBOT. Go away. It’s a private conversation only adults can understand.
Hillary has my vote in 2012 also.
republicans hate hillary
the daily kos faction of the dem party that [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR] all over her in the primaries, is going to go back to [DELETED BY ADMINISTRATOR] on her nov 5 after they have no more use for her
obama convinced blacks that clintons are racist
and alot of her 18 million supporters feel like she sold them out
so exactly where is she going to find all the votes to win 2012?
sarah will not only have her charisma in 2012 but also experience.
sarah is unbeatable in 2012
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“I’m absolutely appalled at the behavior of the Democrats,” said Bob Kunst of Defenders.net. “I’m a Democrat and for the first time in my life I’m going to vote Republican. I can’t take it anymore.””
Yeh well many of us have already noticed that some are trying to turn this country into a DANGEROUS Obama kingdom- and we’ll be damned if we allow them to get away with it.
nice to see another Dem woke up from the dangers of the bambi camp- shame it didn’t happen during his CORRUPT primary run-
the amount of anti hillary hate in this post is unbelievable.
is that the new obama tactic? to turn her supporters against her for supporting obama?
she does what she has to do because she supports the democratic party. she is smart to know that there are times to pick a fight and wage a war against your enemies and this is not the time to do it against the democrat leaders who staged a coup against her supporters. she is working her heart out for down ticket democrats because she knows that cost of losing both the presidency and the congress to the republicans would be too great if she were to leave the democratic party entirely.
as for pulling out the anti-iran event, it was said at the time that she wanted to avoid any inappropriate association with Palin and give media a chance to use the fact that they attend the event together as something to be used against her. i.e. implicating that she is subliminally telling her supporters to support Palin by appearing at the same event with her.
i think the democrat party as is controlled by the likes of dean, pelosi, kerry, brasille, and obama is not the democrat party that i used to belong to. but for the lack of a better alternative, my present support goes to them for congressional leaders.
i cannot yet bring myself to support their selection of the presidential nominee.
I am sure Hillary has gotten specific threats from the virulent Obommunists probably regarding Chelsea. she is being held as a virtual hostage by the Obommunists! she has no choice! please try to understand her regarding this distinct possibility!
Blog force one,
It has also been my deep suspicion that they are
blackmailing her, somehow, with Chelsea.
It seems, to me, the only reason she would back
0Zero to this extent. Chelsea would be Hillary’s
ONLY ‘Achilles’ Heel’…..
Can any doubt he would go THAT FAR?
This anti Hillary spew is from a troll that should be banned, period. Always spamming and we could have used help with this awhile ago from the site Administrator. It makes this site look, anti- Hillary when this crap is allowed to go on and on. This particular poster, doesn’t engage, just hit and run on every thread. It’s enough.
Thanks for hanging in there, McKatmoon – it just takes some time to deal with it all. But your concern abt the appearance for NQ is DEFINITELY appreciated.
And so sorry that we all had to deal with this tonight.
pumapower-
you may be the most dellusional person ever
Jerry Mather, for the 8th time I’m telling you to get off that computer and come up and clean these catboxes. I don’t know how you can spend so much time on that computer. And those stains on your underwear are only getting worse. If your father sees them he’ll tan your backside for sure. You just don’t understand how hard I have to beg to keep your father from taking away your computer and the only peace of mind I get in my life. You’re just a little ingrate. Why don’t you have a girlfriend? Your father is starting to wonder.
pumapower-
you may be the most dellusional person ever
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It is a sad day when a political party has to pressure anyone against freedom of speech, and why are they doing this? Are we so far gone as a country that an opinion cannot be expressed by women from two opposing parties. It’s pure behind the scenes manipulation. Just like when we are driven off track on a thread, but at a much larger scale. The fact is we all lose when voices are silenced. It isn’t too far fetched to see Senator Clinton pulled out by the D party, thus making it possible to pull Palin out, because it wouldn’t be fair and balanced – both parties not represented. Same sad tactics against women, different century.
Brava! Great comment, seriously. I am really outraged by this whole story. Silencing dissent is unamerican.
I support Hillary. I know what was done to her. I KNOW that SHE won the primary and it was taken from her. I did the research, the math, and spent time with those that were involved and witnessed the fraud. My heart broke for her. That DEMEANING staged BS “roll call” and forcing her to drop out. That negotiation went on for the first three days of Denver. I cried the night before when I was told what they were going to make her do. Pelosi and Obama are sick people. The lowest this country has ever seen. Hillary would have won the White House this year. Hands down. That’s BS that the Republicans hate her. I never heard that. Regardless 18,000,000 people owe it to their party to show them that they aren’t sheep and won’t accept this COMPLETELY unelectable fool Obama. His behavior and his idiocy are appalling. How did America sink so low that stupid people are out there voting for this fraud? Ughhhhh….
What is truly amazing to me is how the Obama and the media he has in his pocket continue flip the issues. They accuse McCain of running a dirty campaign when he tells the truth and/or responds to Obama’s lies. he even makes McCain out to be the cause of the current financial fiasco that he profited from. I was not a McCain supporter until I realized what was at stake – our country as we know it!
Please stop feeding the troll.
See “How the Trolls Win.”
Good night!
Did Obama’s campaign do this for domestic political reasons? Or did it do it for Ahmadinejad? If you think that foreign leaders don’t HATE protests when and where they visit in the U.S.A. and don’t communicate that hate to the powers that be, then think again. Ceaucescu was not shy on the subject. Let the Obama campaign explain its opposition to Palin’s or HRC’s or any other politician’s speaking out at a protest against Ahmadinejad. Let them explain that they threatened to undermine the group’s tax status with the IRS for domestic political reasons rather than in order to curry favor with Ahmadinejad. I mean that part of the real point is that they have helped Ahmadinejad, and they should be ashamed.
You could totally be right about that.
Perhaps we should treat JM08’s comments as we would a battering breeze crossing our brow while we tan. Turn face away and smile. Do not talk to the wind. It will pass.
Clinton didn’t disinvite Palin. The people who invited her hoping to make some kind of freaking spectacle did.
As far as I’m concerned Clinton’s the only one who acted with any class. When she saw the forum was more about making a scene than acomplishing anything she left. More power to her.
McKinney in 2008
Clinton in 2012
It’s that the powers that be did not want Palin to appear with Hillary for fear it would lend Palin credibility in the public eye. They weren’t sure they could force Palin out or not, so they told Hillary she could not attend. Then the powers that be started working on the tax exempt status of a group that would host a political event. It was not a political event, but that I believe was the pressure used to force out Palin. It’s the Chicago machine dirty politics. Nothing new, nobody wins, not even the event sponsors could win, if Iran did not win… at least they won knowing nobody else could win… so in the end they win by default. The Obama legacy, get used to it. Obama first. Country if there’s any left.
The DNC IS the problem. And the DNC has been taken over somehow by Obamabot Philosophy, whatever you want to call it. They are so infatuated with their golden boy that they just want to win at all costs–especially to their integrity. They see that he has somehow risen to great heights and are trying to ride on his “magic carpet.” I think of Faust when I think of Obama.
I cannot wait for this election to be over. I think at this point, no matter who wins, the entire country loses.
My country has turned angry, sour, foul mouthed–and I mean people on both sides. The general discourse in the country is so superficial and outrageous.
I feel very sad for some of the young politicians in my state who seem genuinely devoted to providing service. I sure hope they can survive through this upheaval and turmoil.
BIDEN’S AFGHANISTAN HELICOPTER FORCED DOWN DUE TO BAD WEATHER NOT COMBAT!
HILLARY WAS SAVAGED FOR A STORY SIMILAR TO THIS ONE!
http://www.workingmannews.com
Pay attention, you just got a lesson in the way the game is best played.
The Democrats need to smooze the American Jewish community. Clinton would be cheered, perhaps Obama would be booed (and he was, in absentia). Boo is bad so Clinton goes.
The downside is that protesting a legally elected head of state addressing the UN by invitation would soil the statesman side of Hillary’s CV.
Oh what to do?
Have one Clinton’s inside people invite Palin and give Clinton an easy out.
Bada bing!
Will Mullahs Damon and Affleck be there to
greet President Ahmadinejad?
Thanks Amy!
I am puzzled by the outcome of this planned event as well.
There is NO way Senator Clinton would be intimidated by speaking at an event with ANYONE!
Since she spoke about human rights in some very hostile environments, someone surely put pressure on her regarding this event!
My suspicion is that there will be some early announcements of Cabinet posts, and she will be in line for Secretary of State…a position that Biden always wanted.
“My suspicion is that there will be some early announcements of Cabinet posts,”
Dream on.
The odds are now even that every day at work she will be staring at Sarah Palin as President of the Senate until McCain leaves the White House.
Staring at a figurehead chosen by the GOP male hierarchy. That is the fantastic future No Quarter wishes to give it’s heroine, Hillary Clinton. Clinton, with friends like these……