Kurtz speaks on Annenberg papers, % of Clinton supporters unmoved by Obama unmoved, Biden classy/Biden childish
By LisaB on September 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM in Current Affairs
1)The WSJ has an article by Stanley Kurtz this morning about Annenberg, Ayers and Obama. Kurtz is the guy who finally got access to the Annenberg papers in Chicago. I’m hoping there will be more articles to come.
One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama’s “recruitment” to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.
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Kurtz also tracks down some of the recipients of the money Obama’s committee funded. There’s a group we’ve seen before.
CAC translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).
Mr. Obama once conducted “leadership training” seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama’s early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC’s in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement.
CAC also funded programs designed to promote “leadership” among parents. Ostensibly this was to enable parents to advocate on behalf of their children’s education. In practice, it meant funding Mr. Obama’s alma mater, the Developing Communities Project, to recruit parents to its overall political agenda.
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The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC’s first year. He also served on the board’s governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative.The Obama campaign notes that Mr. Ayers attended only six board meetings, and stresses that the Collaborative lost its “operational role” at CAC after the first year. Yet the Collaborative was demoted to a strictly advisory role largely because of ethical concerns, since the projects of Collaborative members were receiving grants. CAC’s own evaluators noted that project accountability was hampered by the board’s reluctance to break away from grant decisions made in 1995. So even after Mr. Ayers’s formal sway declined, the board largely adhered to the grant program he had put in place.
Simply more evidence the relationship between Obama and Ayers is not what has been stated. I also don’t like the cozy relationship between the grant program, Obama’s former community organizing buds and local politics.
I’m all for helping parents speak up and advocate for their children. I’m all for helping a downtrodden community help itself and get its due from local government. I’m all for helping schools and I even think some private/public partnerships can work – with proper oversight. But if this had been something to be proud of, wouldn’t we have heard all about it by now? All the time? Wall to wall coverage of the wonderful education work Obama did in the tough neighborhoods of Chicago and the wonderful results?
So, what’s the problem here? Ayers? Afrocentrism in schools? More political consciousness than math? Here’s what I’d like to know as a former educator. I’d like a list of what was funded and what was not. The whole list. Then I’d like to see what teachers have to say about that.
2) Obama didn’t “sell out” in Green Bay like McCain did a few days ago. Political Punch has the pics to prove it.
3) Newser has an AP poll saying Obama’s support among Hillary voters is not moving.
An Associated Press-Yahoo News poll shows that among adults who backed his rival during their bitter primary campaign, 58 percent now support Obama. That is the same percentage who said so in June, when Clinton ended her bid and urged her backers to line up behind the Democratic senator from Illinois.
The poll shows that while Obama has gained ground among Clinton’s supporters _ 69 percent view him favorably now, up 9 percentage points from June _ this has yet to translate into more of their support.In part, this is because their positive views of Republican presidential nominee John McCain have also improved during this period.
Those supporting McCain have also edged up from 21 percent to 28 percent, with the number of undecided staying constant, the survey showed.
————The problem that supporters of Clinton, the New York senator, have with Obama seems to flow from their measure of him as a candidate, not from issues. From establishing a timeline for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq to abortion to canceling tax cuts on the rich, their views of the importance of issues are virtually identical to Democrats in general.
Yet they find Obama less likable, honest, experienced and inspiring than Democrats overall do, and have a better view of McCain. And while majorities of Clinton supporters say Obama shares their values and understands ordinary Americans, they’re less likely to say so than Democrats overall.
4) The AP reports, at Newser, that Obama is realizing some of his spending proposals will have to wait.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says the prospect of a massive government bailout of the financial industry means that he probably would have to delay the spending programs he has called for during his campaign.
I wonder what is so important Obama would push it anyway?
5) At Newser, even Biden didn’t like that terrible Obama “email ad” against McCain.
“I thought that was terrible, by the way,” Biden said.
Asked why it was done, he said: “I didn’t know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we’d have never done it.”
Of course, he backtracked almost immediately.
Late Monday, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued a statement from Biden. In it, Biden said he “was asked about an ad I’d never seen” and was “reacting merely to press reports.”
Biden said that, as he said in the interview, there was nothing “intentionally personal” in the criticism of McCain’s views.
“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen. McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize, especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators,” Biden said.
Biden should have just stuck with his first comment and not issued such a juvenile statement. The first was classy and the second just reminds me of kids trying to scream about “who started it.” While Biden’s people were, no doubt, trying not to let any points be scored on their guy by having him sound “weak,” they actually did the guy no favors in making him sound petulant. After all, who will remember this exchange and these stupid ads later?
Biden’s classy statement would have been remembered. But he had to follow it up with “but he hit me first!” Lame, lame, lame and stupid. Man up and stick with your first comment. Trying to amend it down just looks like sour grapes and petulance.
6) Realclearpolitics has an important piece about the growing chorus of pundits and writers who think that racism is the most important potential reason for an Obama loss.
Seven weeks before the 2008 presidential election, liberals are warning America that if Barack Obama loses, it is because Americans are racist. Of course, that this means that Democrats (and independents) are racist, since Republicans will vote Republican regardless of the race of the Democrat, is an irony apparently lost on the Democrats making these charges.
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And it could become a rage the likes of which America has not seen in a long time, if ever. It will first and foremost come from within black America. The deep emotional connection that nearly every black American has to an Obama victory is difficult for even empathetic non-blacks to measure. A major evangelical pastor told me that even evangelical black pastors who share every conservative value with white evangelical pastors, including pro-life views on abortion, will vote for Obama. They feel their very dignity is on the line.That is why the growing chorus — already nearing unanimity — of liberal commentators and politicians ascribing an Obama loss to American racism is so dangerous.
Andrew Sullivan of The Atlantic: “White racism means that Obama needs more than a small but clear lead to win.”
Jack Cafferty of CNN: “The polls remain close. Doesn’t make sense … unless it’s race.”
Jacob Weisberg of Newsweek and Slate: “The reason Obama isn’t ahead right now is … the color of his skin. … If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth.”
Nicholas D. Kristof of New York Times: “Religious prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.”
Gerald W. McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, in a speech to union workers: “Are you going to give up your house and your job and your children’s futures because he’s black?”
Similar comments have been made by Kansas’s Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, a Democrat, and by writers in Time magazine. And according to The Associated Press: “A poll conducted by The Associated Press and Yahoo News, in conjunction with Stanford University, revealed that a fairly significant percentage of Democrats and independents may not vote for Sen. Barack Obama because of his race.” If you read the poll, it does not in fact suggest this conclusion. The pollsters assert that any person with any negative view of black life means that the person is racist and means that he would not vote for Obama. Both conclusions are unwarranted. But “Obama will lose because of racism” is how the poll takers and the media spin it.
Clearly, these pundits haven’t bothered to think through the situation and to research any potential problems people may have with Obama as a candidate. The author goes on to ask why an Obama loss might be attributed only to white racism.
One reason is the liberal elite’s contempt for white Americans with less education — even if they are Democrats.
A second reason is that it is inconceivable to most liberals that an Obama loss — especially a narrow one — will be due to Obama’s liberal views or inexperience or to admiration for John McCain.
The author also says the left-wing echo chamber doesn’t allow for lefties to see or hear that other people have different opinions and they are always surprised to find Republicans and Independents in the mix.
If Obama loses, it will not be deemed plausible that Americans have again rejected a liberal candidate, indeed the one with the most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate. Liberals will explain an Obama defeat as another nefarious Republican victory. Combining contempt for many rural and middle-class white Americans with a longstanding belief in the inevitability of a Democratic victory in 2008 (after all, everyone they talk to despises the Republicans and believes Republicans have led the country to ruin), there will be only one reason Obama did not win — white racism.
Yep, that’s what we’re seeing, all right.
Here’s the problem. It is impossible to prove a negative. How do you go about proving your vote for McCain or a third party candidate is NOT just a racist one? Actually, you can’t. So, the pundits are safe here – they can never be disproven. The only thing we can do is continue to pound the issues, the facts and treat this candidate like any other. That does NOT preclude the “rough and tumble” of campaign jabs, despite the efforts of Obama campaign officials trying to make any criticism a racist slur.
However, it is important to keep an eye on this and speak out. I don’t want Obama to be defeated because he is an Arab/African/Caucasian. I want him defeated because I don’t think he’s right for this job. Will I move away if Obama’s elected? Heavens, no. I’ll put up with it, just as I’ve put up with Bush’s 8 years. Sigh.
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Barack America is in free fall. I am wondering why it took Sen. Chris Dodd 6 months to convene a hearing of the Banking Committee when this mortgage crisis has been occurring for quite some time. I still believe the Do Nothing Congress led by Democrats realize that Barack America is in trouble and thought if they did nothing they could put the blame on Bush.
Well the American people are not buying this. We put country first before all this mess. In all fairness everyone needs to be fired for this.
He may be in free fall but unfortunately it isn’t showing in the polls.
Our expectations are being manipulated by the polls and we know for a fact disdain for Ohitler is under-reported. If you oppose Ohitler keep opposing him and telling others why you do. Word of mouth and blogging is our best weapon. The polls and evil MSM be damned!
Let’s look at this from the poll cited above:
From my perspective as a Hillary supporter this is does not reflect how I feel nor do I feel it reflects how most PUMAs feel. The candidate part I think we agree on. He is a terrible candidate with horrific immature unwise judgment. As far as issues go first of all we don’t know what Ohitler’s positions really are since he flips them like pancakes. And we certainly don’t agree on his FISA reversal. That was an actual vote and shows the true Ohitler versus his lofty nauseating flowery rhetoric.
My feeling is this poll is trying to soften the real disdain we have for Ohitler. This poll’s “conclusions” are highly suggestive and manipulative.
That is utter bullshit! Ohitler does not share my values. I would never befriend Wright, Ayers or Rezko or any of the other in his rogues gallery. This poll’s conclusions does not reflect what I know from my own experience as a PUMA and knowing many other PUMAs.
Not correctly reporing poll reports doesn’t mean the campaigns don’t have it. Their actions/reactions are the real indicators.
Other observations:
1. Republicans will:
a. Rally to support their ticket.
b. Release damaging material that much faster.
2. Democrats will:
a. Become complacent.
b. Start to grow bored at precisely the wrong time.
(i) 10K crowd McCain 6K crowd 0bama
I’m not so sure of that. The polls are still tight, and much of Obama’s recent gains are within the margin of error. So basically it is still a very close race.
That was Barack’s banking committee, wasn’t it? Oh, wait a minute. Yeah…that was another lie. He probably wouldn’t use that line again, huh? Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture.
The Dems are bent on seeing the Bush Admin fail. If it cost the country 3 million jobs, so be it. Who cares. Party first.
I resent that comment. Besides if that were the case, we’d be impeaching his lazy, rich arrogant ass.
Sorry, but lark is right. That is why impeachment is “off the table” and why Iraq is still being funded.
I agree the things I have been witnessing for the past two years coming from the Democratic Leadership is absurd.
They have purposely done nothing in two years. Not ONE accomplishment, they sat back as gas prices rose. They sat back as more and more homes went into foreclosure. As people lost their homes. They sat back as food costs soared, as utility bills rose. As people were unable to feed their families, pay for heating or air conditioning. They sat back as the market plummeted. Now they want to save everything because they succeeded in getting their candidate nominated? We’re supposed to just blindly trust them after what we witnessed what was done to Hillary? The fraud? Not this woman.
I believe they did so because they knew they were about to market an unqualified candidate, that when the economy is in trouble it helps elevate Democrats. They USED us all. They didn’t care who’s life they destroyed to accomplish what they set out to accomplish. Not all Democrats, but the Democrat leaders and those that followed like sheeple instead of standing up and saying what the hell are we doing here? The people put their confidence in us and this is how we repay them?
Because he is a “Friend of Mozillo”.
Because THEY ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE.
Which Democratic candidate would have worked to expose it? HILLARY. Who did we get? 0MAMA.
Which National candidate will work to expose it? MCCAIN? Whodo we have to make sure we get? MCCAIN/PALIN ….
Has no one thought about the fact that since the Dems didn’t impeach Bush the already expanded executive power is still on the table for the successor and now that the Dems are sitting back giving carte blanche to the newest power expansion, the next president will have that power as well with no checks and balances? If the Old Dinosaurs behind Obama get him in the WH, they will have an inept puppet and all that undemocratic power will be grabbed by Dodd, Kerry, Durbin, Daschle, and if he’s still with us, Kennedy.
It reeks.
Yup. That occured to me weeks ago when Barky pulled his 180 on FISA. He wants what Bush has. THANKS A LOT REPUBS!!!! Didn’t you (republicans)ever fear that a democrat might get back into office and use this shit against you? Or perhaps you thought that Democrats would give back all this executive power…well, Hillary would have.
tek–You hit the nail on the head.
CDS (Clinton Derangement Syndrome) would have dictated that the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress would have worked together in the best bipartisan spirit to revoke all of those executive powers as soon as Hillary won the election, and that the bill would be times to go to President Bush’s desk so that he could sign the bill on his last day in office.
yep.
You are spot on! The Dems waited cynically to do anything on the Economy as a way to help Obama. This is desperation gone wild. The Dems have shown themselves to be scoundrels once again.
Just had a delightful talk with my cousin, who I rarely talk politics with. She mentioned that she finally has someone to vote for this November in Pennsylvania — Sarah Palin. She had not planned to vote before Sarah’s nomination. We both agreed Palin embodies the tough, strong women in that state who work hard and are usually underappreciated. (BTW, she was not a Clinton supporter either — so I don’t know which demographic she fit.)
There you go. And there is more there where you found that one. I hope.
I’m confident there are more.
Thanks to anyone not voting for Ohitler miraculously all as a group instantly becoming racists people are hunkering down and quietly spreading the word we can’t allow a race baiter and novice to take over our country. In other words people are afraid to outwardly too much express their contempt for Ohitler because of being branded unfairly as racists. So they are quietly spreading the word. And this can’t be polled.
That reminds me, I was at our local version of Whole Foods this morning and when I came out, I noticed that about half the cars in the lot had McCain/Palin stickers!! This is a way-left college town. So, either Republicans have started shopping GREEN or a lot of Democrats are not voting Obama/Biden!
Arugula land is going PUMA? Yippee!
I was at my local grocery store and started talking to a 60-ish guy. Turns out he is from Davis, CA (born and raised there – a very liberal university town) and a Democrat and he said that until McCain chose Palin, he wasn’t excited about the race, but now he is. He really likes Palin!
He said his son lives in Alaska and knows her personally and thinks she’s great!
Davis is a University town but if you drive 5 minutes in any direction your in farm country.
Still, point taken.
Hey I shop at whole foods and I am PUMA all the way baby! But I also shop at Walmart once in a while too, I am not going to pay an arm and a leg for the same stuff. Walmart sells some of the same brands of Organics and Naturals.
Sure I eat Organic and Recycle but every now and again I need a Big MAC! Meaning McCain!!
If Obama loses it is because in the uncertain times we live in we need a strong and experienced leader and we can’t afford on the job training for a flip flopper that says one thing today and another tommorrow. It has nothing to do with race.
The Obama extremist media is trying to send us on a guilt trip and making us believe we have to vote for him in order to prove we are not racists.
But is not going to work no matter what they come up with. We are not idiots and won’t buy into this cheap last minute maneuvers by CNN and MSNBC. Open your eyes people and don’t get caught in the media trap.
NOBAMA!!
That’s the problem with the DNC elite. They think the American people are stupid. They think we can be bamboozled. Obama is an inferior candidate. I would never on my worst day vote for him. I would live on pins and needles for four years wondering who he was going to sell us out to.
I picture all these SDS students running down the street trying to terrorize everyone.
I am just waiting for Rezko to blow the whistle on Obama. Hopefully, before the election.
I am just surprized no one has tried to kill Rezko to keep him quiet. I understand why he chose to go to jail to await his sentencing. I think with his track record and cronies I would have also.
PUMA
No kidding, the yahoo poll today still referred to Clinton supporters as:
Interestingly enough those supporters are the ones doing all the research and info gathering and the so called “smarter” ones are believing all those little emails they are getting with bull shit.
Typical MSM bias. Of course they’re suggesting that anyone who supports Hillary is ignorant and uneducated. Whereas those who are smart enough to get a college degree are chugging Koolaid and worshipping The One.
I have a Master’s Degree and am a Hillary supporter and voting for McCain. Booya!!
The DNC seems to think that we can be “pressured” into voting for whoever they pick out of their
hat (or southern anatomical location).
I assume they think we can all be pressured because they themselves succumb to such techniques on a daily basis (for however many days they actually bother to show up for work).
What a miserable congress we have had. They caved on everything.
Too bad they assumed that all democrats were as spinless as they are.
Guess what? We aren’t.
No Obama. Not ever.
wow.. now there’s a typo. who would actually mean to refer to the congress as “spinless”?
LOL. I meant, “spineless.” But then you all knew that anyway.
Good one, NTZ
Actually, the opposite is true.
“President Bush’s success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.
“So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html
Don’t let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well–especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.
FISA?
Impeach Bush?
Health care? Kerry says it’s a non starter.
Off shore drilling?
Lowest approval rating in the history of Congress. That lowest approval was well earned.
I think that Tony has “protection” on the inside …
Do we need to send Hallmark cards to Patrick Fitzgerald? Is he in need of some cheering up?
Is he in need of some emotional support?
Cause I’d like to know where the hell he is right now.
He was supposed to move up the food chain.
The Combine doesn’t stop at Tony. He’s a minnow compared with some of the sharks in that tank.
Patrick Fitzgerald is extremenly sensitive to any charge that his actions may have a political taint, and he generally avoids doing anything that will get his name in the papers in the run-up to an election. Whenever he has loosened that self-restraint, he has been hammered in the press. I wish he would get moving on these investigations and indictments, but I understand his public caution, and I’m sure that there is considerable work being done by his investigators under the press radar.
I disagree. I would vote for McCain over Ohitler even if both were white. However, Ohitler’s use of race baiting has cemented my vote. So it as something to do with race, or racism to be precise.
Obama has been campaigning for two years and I still don’t know what he stands for. Hope and Change—hope for what? . . . change to what?
After 8 years of GWB, I couldn’t wait to vote for the Democratic nominee–whomever it would be–but as the primaries played out, Obama showed himself to be not only an inadequate candidate, but an arrogant sexist pig!
it’s obvious to me that this so called financial crisis ( a lot of hype right there) is being pushed by the media because they believe it will help Obama. it may have initially but I think that may backfire. Historically in times of great stress voters have not moved to the fresh candidate with new ideas for change, but instead to the well-known, solid, steady candidate.
I don’t agree with your theory. The MSM is reporting this because they can’t avoid reporting it. For the sake of argument lets assume you are correct: Since the American attention span is maybe around 2 days maximum this story has come out too soon to have any meaningful impact on the election. The debate Friday will be the news for the next couple days of focus.
If NOT voting for obama by whites is Racist… then WHAT is it called that 95% of blacks are NOT voting for the white guy???!
I am SICK of the double standard and race baiting CRAP!!!
NO SHIT
Notice how on purpose the polls and MSM NEVER touch this TRUTH? Its good news. We will let them know loud and clear on November 4 what the truth is!
Rush (not the MSM) commented on this double standard (% of blacks voting for Obama is almost 100%, but somehow whites are the racists ones even though the white vote is widely split) today on his show.
Unfortunately, all this race baiting going on is going to set race relations in America back 20 years. Those of us who don’t have a racist bone in our bodies are getting sick and tired of being told that we are not voting for Obama just because he’s black.The true racists are those who will vote for him just because he IS black (or half-black). Have they never heard of reverse racism?
I am not voting for him because he is an ignorant, arrogant, woman hating anti-American who would like to destroy that which our forefathers fought for.
I am a descendent of an American Revolutionary fighter and I feel that I have a special mission to try to defeat anyone – white,black,Democrat,Republican, Independent or any other classification who tries to undermine what the founders of this country fought for and accomplished through the shedding of their blood and their hard labor. The likes of Ayers, Khalidi, and other friends and cohorts of Obama’s will not destroy this country without a real fight on their hands.
As I’ve said before, George Washington must be turning over in his grave.
am not voting for him because he is an ignorant, arrogant, woman hating anti-American who would like to destroy that which our forefathers fought for.
I am a descendent of an American Revolutionary fighter and I feel that I have a special mission to try to defeat anyone – white,black,Democrat,Republican, Independent or any other classification who tries to undermine what the founders of this country fought for and accomplished through the shedding of their blood and their hard labor. The likes of Ayers, Khalidi, and other friends and cohorts of Obama’s will not destroy this country without a real fight on their hands.
As I’ve said before, George Washington must be turning over in his grave.
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Right on!!
You said it. Add Jefferson to list of Founding Tathers who are turning over in their graves. The ACLU and other wacko extremist liberals have taken his “separation of church and state” comment from a letter he wrote completely out of context, twisted and manipulated it to promote their own viewpoints and censor anyone who disagrees. Our Founding Fathers deserve better.
Oops! That should be Founding Fathers, not Tathers. LOL!
Don’t tread on me. Agreed.
the obomabots are downright boring on this issue.
i suppose if you didn’t vote for Hillary you were sexist and if you didn’t/aren’t going to vote for McCain you are ageist.
it’s not that obama’s half black. it’s that obama is 100% green.
sjc, you are not the only one sick of this double standard crap (using your language). People I talk too have the same observation, from the entertainment industry, ordinary folks & media, double standard is the practice.
WHY ?
Blacks are therefore racists if they do not vote for white candidate? Right ?
What is happening to the citizens of America? Too much whining & no studying? Do research & country first before the party.Own your vote !
I am a 30 year plus Democrat (Hillary fan ) but because I love America, I’ll vote what’s BEST for America ! I will feel safe under the watch of McCain/Palin.
Vote McCain/Palin ‘08
God Bless America !
Recap: Gore and Kerry was suppose to win, Gore’s hubris earned him nothing but self-satisfaction to recreate himself in his own delusional image.
Mr. Gore reverted to an old-style populism that alienated independent suburban white men. Gore “abandoned the fight for smaller government,” losing “new economy” men who favored “smaller government, fiscal discipline and personal responsibility.”
Senator Kerry lost because he ignored rural America, and became a noted flip-flopper taking whatever political position needed to win and standing on none …Exactly Like Obama
“Why did we lose?, Biden asked a crowd of about 50 people at the office of the York County Democratic Party. “Anybody who thinks we’re going to elect a president who cannot lay down unimpeachable credentials on national security, who cannot demonstrate by his or her record or character that they have the strength and vision to protect America as well as ending this war, I think we’re making a mistake again.” He’s Talking about Obama
Clinton Likens Obama to Kerry, Gore
Senator Clinton is warning that Senator Obama’s comments about small-town Americans make him vulnerable to the fate suffered by Vice President Gore and Senator Kerry: being labeled an out-of-touch elitist and losing to the Republicans. Obama another Gore, Kerry
Gore and Kerry was suppose to win for all the reason they say Obama should win, They lost. Why can Gore and Kerry lose like democrats, but if Obama loses it’s not because he’s channeling Gore and Kerry it’s because he’s black. what BS.
We should treat Obama different from Gore and Kerry give him special treatment because of his skin color?
Its affirmative action at its WORST! We are to put the skin colour up front instead of the MOST proven, MOST experienced, MOST competent…
Funny how this ruled out the women….
screaming racism is just an excuse for not wanting to be accountable.
And it’s also an excuse to use when BO loses. The DNC elites, who created this mess, will never take responsibility for being the cause of the downfall of the democratic party through the betrayal of the will of the people.
What I’ve learned from this Primary is that women cannot count on the progressive men to stand with them.
Ironically, it took a maverick republican to do what the misogynistic DNC patriarchy would not do. I will never forgive them for depriving the country of the best and the brightest when we needed HER the most — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
But there are many progressive Puma men who are part of HRC’s very broad coalition, which runs across gender, class, and racial/ethnic lines. Many, like my husband, are greatly offended by Obama’s misogyny and sexism.
Yeah, sure, the real problem with Chicago schools is that they are too “Afrocentric.” You know, it would make charges of unconscious racial prejudice affecting your judgment harder to stick if you didn’t write stuff like this.
Go ahead. Call me a racist. I do not care. As long as it means Nobama, I am fine with being a racist. I’ll get a tatoo saying so if anyone wants me to.
What they fail to realize is in reality, most people vote the way they view life. My life view is to look deeper. I do not get excited about a pretty package that has nothing inside. To me that is a waste of a box, paper or bow or whatever. If you told me that I was getting a very special birthday gift and I saw the beautiful box, all glittery and colorful and big, but I opened it and there was nothing inside and you said, well, the box was your present. I would be very disappointed. I would think of you as a liar. I would never want another pretty box from you. I want the substance and not the marketing campaign. The way Obama has been marketed, I am certain that if they marketed a can of pop for President, people would elect it. They are willing to elect an empty box so what wouldn’t they buy? When is nothing too little? That is what I want to know!
very good analogy and well said.
There in lies the joy of the box. Some people believe the box is empty, some believe it contains diamonds and pearls, some believe it contains a big pile of shit. My bet is on the latter. As long as Obama hides the box these simpletons will put all their hopes and wishes inside that box. It is truly rather sad. Obama is a coming attraction a trailer if you will. Cool scenes from a bad movie.
So we are supposed to vote for Obama in order to prove that we are no racists. Imagine what would be the story if Obama were a white male and people would not vote for him. Would you say that this would be because of racism?
I don’t vote for him, because he is not a Democrat, but a Liberal, lacks experience, wisdom and good judgment. I don’t care for the color of his skin or his gender or his age. I care about his small resumé and his poor performance on the public stage. He is not fit to lead and that is why he does not get my vote…
That’s funny because I think people should vote for McCain in order to prove they are not shit-for-brains.
Well he is 50% Caucasian, so maybe there’s a Degree of Racism test we’ll all be subjected to. And how would one explain the AAs that publicly have been against 0bama – Mayor Nutter, Jerry Mondesire (Phila. NAACP head) among others. They were for Hillary. Is that because they were racist against 0bama’s non-Caucasian DNA? Maybe they were self-hating males and that’s why they wanted Hillary.
This is the absurdity of the argument.
Yes, I guess that make us Pumas 1/2 racists, since Obama is 1/2 black.
Think of this: what if America “ere” to elect Obama because they fear that not voting for him makes them racist? What comes next? Once you grant anyone the power to manipulate you like that, you can only expect more and more manipulation.
GWB manipulated the country with the politics of fear; Obama wants to manipulate with the politics of white guilt and fear of being pegged a racist.
Obama WILlL lose and it is not because of racism it is simply because he is totally full of SHIT! every woed every “position” has been changed 180 degrees by him he is a complete bullshit artist and the real truth here is if he was awhite candidate and had changed his position on everything as Obama had he would be down 30 points in the polls He is close to Mcain only because we are Not racist and are going out of our way as AMERICANS TO GIVE THIS CON ARTIST A PASS! how many passes should he get because he is of color?? ? NOT ANY MORE!
What a convenient reason to give for a loss! Racism.
Not experience, not lack integrity, not misogyny, but racism.
The real reason he’s gotten as far as he has is because of near 100% support of the black community, and failure of the MSM to properly vet him because of fear of being called racist.
If that’s not called having a sense of entitlement, I don’t know what is.
If we’re color-blind, we vote on the issues and the character of the candidate. People need to get a grip and see that that’s why he’s losing, if indeed, he is losing.
I am a proud qualificationist
We have been the absolute longest, most horrendous election year of my lifetime. I frankly hope we never have another election cycle like this one. We have 6 more weeks to make an impact on this vote.
I, personally, will throw myself into the home stretch with as much effort as possible for John McCain. I truly cannot face four more years like this last one. I think everyone reading this site needs to take a minute to fully meditate on an Obama Presidency. Could you live in America and get up everyday with any enthusiasm for your country or government. I know I couldn’t. I shudder at the thought of that man and his friends being 30 miles away from me, and in control of decisions that effect my children. Can you imagine him having control of our children’s curriculum? Do you want to pay for abortions out of your tax dollars? Do you want to support groups like ACORN, or churches like Trinity? Would you want to take a chance that Bill Ayers would ever be invited to our White House? You can bet elections will never be run the same again, if he succeeds to carry this one off, and neither will primaries. We will no longer have a Democratic Party that is anything but Far Left, and truthfully, I can only imagine what changes he has in mind for our Constitution. I watch my television and want to scream at the people in the Obama crowds: “What in the hell is wrong with you people, can you really be this stupid? Do you have any idea who you are supporting?” I have actually engaged in conversations with my husband where he has suggested that we might want to move our family to a Canadian border state should Obama be elected. Ed truly fears we will be attacked, and our rights stripped away. I don’t watch sci-fi, and I don’t like Horror movies, or conspiracy theories, but after what I have seen take place since January I believe the unimaginable should be considered.
your guy is not alone in that train of thought.
If Obama becomes president, we will be a Pod nation.
If Obama becomes president, we will become a Pod nation.
i interrupt my quantitative data analysis (what i do for a living) to ask:
where is the robust, multi-variate studies we should be seeing? that examine complicated voter assessments of each candidates’ MANY variables:
age
sex
policies
experience
race
running mates
# houses
# cars
spousal factors
personalities
cheerleaders in media/Hollywood
etc.
I don’t know about you guys, but my decision about candidates is very complex, not always conscious, and certainly based on at least that list above…
Since other smart political minds MUST know this, I assume they are focusing on RACE to “shame” more of us lapsed dems into voting for Obama after all…sigh.
Believe it or not but most brains are as powerful as yours and they make their analysis on all of those subjects like you do. Each has different sets of variables and data. It is amazing how different brains with different variables and different data using different hypothesis and qualities come down with proportional similar answers. Why?
Quantitative analysis in politics is dead. That is why you see remarkably consistency in Gallup daily track. It gives the answers expected.
actually i think they are just not reporting the complexities.
I could never vote for a candidate with absolutely no accomplishments. It’s so silly
Cults are so yesterday
NOWay……………..NOHow…………..NOBama
From the previous dead thread.
Susan
Every one has Obamanitis – the stuttering decease combine with the stupid answer decease.
Sen Q.: Question for Paulsen, how must is 2 + 2.
Paulsen: Uhhh uhhh uhhh if you take 1/4 of a 1/4 and a 1/2 of 1/2 and multiply it 1/5 of the 1/5 uh uh uh presto.
Sen Q.: And how about that cafeteria downstairs what do you think? Mr. Bernanke.
Bernanke: uhh uhh uhh, if you take the ham and add a slice of cheese, and in the future we can get some bread, but the tax payers will get the mayonnaise back.
When my kids were younger they called me a racist for not liking rap music. Now they know better. I disliked much of it for glorifying criminals, material possessions, and ‘hos. Now the media calls me racist for not supporting an unqualified poseur. I know what I am and it’s not racist. I just worry about folks who do not have that same self-confidence and can be swayed by our corrupt media.
well said.
I refuse to vote for Obama because I am not racist. I compare the virtues of Obama to the virtues of McCain and Obama comes up severely lacking.
A nightmare of an election season. I can barely follow it. Can stomach Fox somewhat.
Nice driving about my area. McCain signs going up everywhere.
yes here too McCain signs everywhere….
Thank god for sensible bible clinging gun toting coming together for a better tomorrow people
The Obama signs around me have come down! YIPPEE!
Have they gone underground?
There are absolutely no signs in my area of upstate NY. Came from SE PA over the weekend, saw one sign for McCain in that area. A month ago I saw two cars, one with Obama and one with McCain bumper stickers. Think everyone is leery of being known because of the viciousness of this campaign.
Sudarshan, did you know that MLK was a repub? no? how sad. and did you know which party abolished slavery? Yes sudarshan, all you can call us is racist. thats it. We don’t believe that Soetero is the ‘One’, like you do. You’ve all drunk the kool-aid, as usual. He just doesn’t have the experience. and as to him being a democrat, sorry, you’ve lost me. FISA, expanding faith-based initiatiaves aren’t what I expect from a democrat. Grow a brain, sudarshan. For you, its all about race. thats your basic problem. Ask yourself if hes truly a democrat. Actually, if you can see clearly, he isn’t.
I am through arguing with pea brain pod bots and the programmed horseshit that they spew. It’s a waste of my energy. I will be using mine to elect John McCain and Sarah Palin in office. See they don’t have to bully, lie, be vulgar, hack e-mail accounts, erase blogs, etc. Obama is so desperate he dropped 30 sleazy, scummy lawyers in Alaska to try to find something dirty on Sarah Palin. Why when she is only the VP in this race? Because she’s cutting in on Obama’s terrority with women.
There are always going to be shallow, naive people in the world who will fall for anything. Luckily they are more of us who don’t.
I am sooooooo ready for this election to be over. November can’t get here fast enough.
I’m with you.
I am a long-time Democrat, but have not always voted for a Democrat for the simple, reason I look at the candidates’ issues, how they relate to me and most importantly whether or not I can trust the candidate.
I have the same objections to Obama that I had for Bush – I don’t/didn’t find him trustworthy and I don’t/didn’t trust him. These objections do not have anything to do with race, these objections have everything to do with his experience, extreme left views and his lack of reason to listen to anyone who has might have differing views.
I voted for Kerry in the last presidential election only because I didn’t want to see four more years of Bush, not because I thought Kerry would be a better president.
I have always been a strong supporter of Senator Clinton and will continue to support her. She is my hero, but, I cannot honor her wish to support Obama. Why? As I state above, I don’t trust him and I don’t like him. I agree with Lady de Rothschild view of Obama.
you have to concede that if Obama were not black he never would have even been a state senator in IL. He’s always been drafted for vacant seats on the basis of his race and little competition.
Geraldine Ferraro was totally correct. If Obama were white and he tried to run for president he’s be laughed off the campaign trail. The fact that he hasn’t been is quite troubling to me.
Yes – and they also don’t dare to mention the fact that a huge amount of Obama’s support is because of his race. He isn’t getting 98% of the black vote because of his policies; it’s because of his identity. If he were another white male candidate with exactly the same qualifications as he has, he would undoubtedly not be the nominee. I can’t count the number of liberal friends I talk with who, after finally giving up on any real policy or qualification rationales for Obama, resort to the fact that his presidency would have “great symbolic value” – which is not-so-subtle “code” for saying that they support him because they want a black POTUS.
I have to say I don’t entirely blame them – the fact that he’s African-American is a reason (at this point, just about the only reason left) that I would consider supporting Obama. I do believe symbolic barrier-breaking has value. If he were a merely tolerable candidate on character and policy, even if he didn’t blow me away, that would probably tip the scales.
But the fact is that his policies are all either backward and/or improvised and/or obviously insincere (when they can be discerned – an Obama policy is somewhat like Schrodinger’s cat, just looking at can change its reality). And worse yet, his character appears to be deeply flawed and his consistency of thought and position is non-existent.
I wish that some of these pundits would consider how much of a positive effect Obama’s race has had on his support, and I bet if you compared those who are supporting him because of his race to those who oppose him because of his race, the former would far outweigh the latter.
I also wish those well-intentioned supporters on this score would consider: what will it do to overall attitudes toward race, and to equal opportunity, if the first African-American president is terrible at the job and even possibly criminally corrupt – will that still be a symbolic victory, or might it not set back qualified African-American leadership back a generation?
Excellent, insightful post, Panmetron.
why in the world would Obama’s race be in any way, shape or form be a reason to vote for him? President is not American Idol…this is for leader of the free world.
Being a democrat and a strong supporter of Hillary I found myself completely unable to even further consider voting for Obama. With all the racist accusations being thrown about I began to doubt my own heart.
I thought “Am I really racisist?” I was deeply examning my own soul when tragedy struck — I recieved word that Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died.
I live in Ohio and felt as if I knew her. Our common goal of working for Hillary made me feel a real connection with her. The loss I felt was enormous. I cried (actually sobbed) for a few hours. When I called to tell my sister, I couldn’t even speak or say the words.
When a day or two had passed I realized that I had never thought about Stephanie Tubbs Jones race. Not one time. I just felt a profound loss of a person whom I admired very much.
My soul searching ended that week. It isn’t Obama’s race that I have a problem with it is his character. Call me a raciist all day long if you like. I know better.
Couldn’t have said it better. It is NOT his race that I have concerns with, it is his character. Sarah Palin is a woman of integrity and character. While I may not agree with her on all issues, I believe she is honest and sincere. And so is John McCain. And that’s what’s important to me. “The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they’re not” (Hillary Clinton). I do not want a corrupt fraud in the White House.
I believe Obama will lose this election – but I know it will NOT be because he is black/Arab/Caucasian or whatever. I am a lifelong Democrat but will never vote for Obama/Biden. I may be criticized or called a racist, but I keep reminding myself of what Eleanor Roosevelt said — “Do what you feel in your heart is right for you will be criticized anyway.”
ACT – very well said!
It was a loss. Well said ACT.
Great post LisaB.
With regard to this – CAC translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. – did you find that one of the external partners that received grant money was Trinity United Church of Christ? I remember reading that some where. If true, my my what a close knit little Chicago group this was. Ayres & Co. write a grant and then spread the money around among friends. If true this would make a good little McCain ad.
I have seen that TUCC got federal funds. I have not seen the grantor identified and I do not know if any money came from Annenberg. Any further research on this point is welcome!!
LisaB
A couple of angles.
Was ACRON involved with ST. Sabina or TUCC?
Would you not need to look at the church books?
What was it that the diosesis tolorated? the money? Certianly they had issues with the pastors. No?
Acorn was involved in CAC…
A little off-topic. Just to inject a bit of humor.
Obama’s Questions for the Presidential Debate Leaked (Humor)
Breaking news in the first debate in Mississippi. The questions Jim Lehrer plans to ask Obama have been leaked to the press. Oddly, all the questions have been submitted by Barack Obama’s friends and associates. Here’s the line-up:
1. “Dear Barack, why are you so sexy?” – Barbara Walters
2. “Senator Obama, how do you do the things that you do to me?” – Chris Matthews
3. “Was I black before I was a woman or was I a woman before I was black?” – Oprah Winfrey
4. “Barry, why is there a white woman stealing your show?” – Fr Michael Pfleger
5. “Which costs more? My million dollar mansion or your million dollar mansion?” – Jeremiah Wright
6. “After the election, can my dad finally admit he is your Foreign Policy adviser?” – Mika Brzezinski
7. “If I vote for you, will you abolish slavery?” – Whoopi Goldberg
8. “Is your opponent a war criminal or an “air pirate”?” – Keith Olbermann
9. “Can you calculate how much we’ll get in reparations? If you add it up… If you add it up…” – Louis Farrakhan
10. “If you are elected President, can I bomb the Whitehouse?” – Bill Ayers
11. “Where do you stand on fraud, corruption and political favors?” – Tony Rezko
12. “As first lady, will I have to be proud of this mean country?” – Michelle Obama
13. “Senator Obama, are my lies worse than your lies?” – John Edwards
14. “Why do they attack you so? And when are you coming on my show?” – Chris Wallace
15. “Is it possible you have TOO MUCH experience to be President?” – Anderson Cooper
16. “Were you for the surge before you were against it or against the surge before you were for it?” – John Kerry
17. “Is it racist to falsely accuse someone of racism?” – Bill Clinton
18. “OK, Senator… What IS a community organizer?” – Rudy Giuliani
19. “Did you lose my e-mail address?” – Scarlett Johansson
ha, those are good!
Great questions!
I have a question for Obama at the Debate.
This question is for both candidates but lest start with you Mr. Obama. If during your Administration the Russians would set up a flag on the North Pole and called the territory between the North Pole and their Northern border sovereign Russian territory, what would you do?
“Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?”
I would uhhh….hmmmmm….ehhhhh……discuss with Medva (damn, whats his name, michelle?) and putt-in. They are our allies and I’m sure that they will guide me through the right path. Wouldn’t wanna mess with the putt. Hes some kind of martial-art expert. come on, gimme a break. I just wanna be president and sit in the white house.
benny you “troll” you being soft on Ohitler again?
20. Did you scratch your nose or did you really flip Hillary Clinton off?
21. Why do you hate women?
22. Would you like a pillow?
Sorry but this racial guilt card has been over-played. I look around and see my once vibrant city filled with empty homes and empty dreams.
I will not vote for Obama because being President is a career move for him. He wants to be a symbol. We can’t afford symbols when most of us are struggling just to get by. I will vote for my first Republican because he is the grownup with experience–and I trust him to fix this mess.
They can call my vote whatever they like but if the Dems are so braindead as to not realize that if they put up someone with no experience and no core principles they will lose–then I will vote for the party who wants to win.
this gun clinging bible toting typical white person that has been a dem all my life is not voting for mccain…go figure it out…an elitist black will not tell me how much air to put in my tires or how to set my thermostat..when he starts paying my bills then he might have a say so but the day is not today..he is a loser and has shown his true color…
correction…not was meant to be now
That whole bit by Obama saying he was ashamed of Americans going over to Europe and not speaking French well enough to say “merci” was enough!
Democrats! Do not nominate a person for Pres who is ashamed of his country!
I think Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews and Jack Cafferty ought to resign and give their jobs to AA news anchors. To show that they are not prejudiced.
Good idea! Ask them to do that today!
I agree, arabella.
they should give up their jobs to WOMEN of color!
OR OLD PEOPLE OF ANY COLOR!
They should give up their jobs to competent news anchors.
I disagree that blacks and black pastors are voting against their values and interests by supporting Obama. Obama’s expanded Faith Based Initiative will hand out billions to black churches and average blacks will get millions from Obama’s Neighborhood Project. These people simply know from whence the money will flow in their direction. Apparently, these are their values. Obama did not have large support from blacks until he toured the South promising to give the blacks money.
After this bailout there isn’t going to be any money left to throw around to anyone.
true so all he will have to offer is an empty vessel!! not even a new roof for the church as theres no money in his great big a melting pot!
so they will all be under the bus too..
According to today’s news, Obamnable now says he may have to postpone implementation of some of his promised changes because of the neconomic crisis. Who’d a thought?
Kevin:
Shush, don’t tell the Obama camp that the Federal Government owns the currency printing presses.
.”
“Integrity” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
“Accompolishment” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
“Honesty” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
“Patriotism” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
“Hubris” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
“—” prejudice (against Obama) is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice.
benny,
MLK was a repub? Seriously, do you want to go there? Surely you know why Strom Thurmond quit the Dems became a Dixiecrat and finally found a home in the Republican Party? Because the dems decided that they would put segragation out of business once and for all, and Strom wasn’t going to ever be a part of such a party. That’s why. Oh yeah, the Repubs abolished slavery and Ron Reagan launched his 1980 campaign in New Philadelhia where the three Civil Rights activists were murdered (Mississippi Burning) with a promise to “uphold States’ Rights.” Do you know MLK also spoke out against the Vietnam War? Bill Clinton too was against it and had the courage to say so. And then too in 1992 the Repub smear machine tried to besmirch Bill Clinton as a draft-dodger but to no avail. So what do they do next smear one of their own Vietnam Vets as unfir for command and hold up a draft dodger not once but twice, again in 2004. And this is the party you guys want to vote for out of pique? And Lady Rothschild who shuttles between two continents thinks Obama is elitist? I know that must be because in 1996 at the Dem convention she must have called out to a tall handsome guy in the lobby and asked him to check in her coat, only to be told after that was done, “Pleased to meet you M’am, I am Barack Obama delegate from Illinois.” Now for Lady Rothschild she would have expected that guy – Harvard or no Harvard – to simply fade away. But heavens, he wants to be President? Lady Rothschild is a limousine liberal, and a Drawing Room Democrat! After Bill Clinton Dems have a guy in Barack who has the gutter repub press and repub trash talkers on radio – the scum like Jonah Goldberg and Ruch, in shivers. I liked that devastating ad on Rush in Espanol where he is outed to be calling the Hispanics stupid. Ruch is a bully an so are many of you in running after McSame in spite. Wake up my friends! Wake up!
Proof of the cliche “It takes one to know one”.
Ruch? McSame? sad that you can’t even type in English. Tried to explain to you, but even if I do, you wouldn’t understand. You’re drunk on the kool-aid. don’t worry, you can always come to us after the GE for rehabilitation. now you are officially classified as a troll.
The fact is that MLK was a republican.
Fact= Truth
As opposed to the fantasy world you live in.
have a day
thanks for playing
Sudarshan:
I’m not “running after McSame in spite”, as you charge, but I am voting for McCain out of a well-honed sense of survival.
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I am very disappointed with Kurtz’s confused and incomplete article and his rather limp interview last night. It is a real shame that he has not offered anything new in his article today than in his original one. He does not share anything that he found after gettign access to the CAC docs at UIC. Overall, a wasted read.
Steve Diamond has his blog accessible again but it’s content is suspect. Others have written that he’s pulled stuff from it. I haven’t done a comparison of old and new but it I do note that he has not shared the content of any of the CAC docs from UIC that he previously claimed to have received copies of.
Others writing on the topic, such as Ben Smith, even O’Reilly at Fox, have ignored or minimized Ayers and Obama’s relationship.
In my opinion, readers will get more substantive content on the topic by reading the many posts on it here at NoQuarterUSA than elsewhere. I’m waiting for National Enquirer to do some investigative reporting because the MSM has not.
Matthew
He’s probably frantically writing a book to come out in March 2009 after the inauguration of Oblahblah. You know how many books he would sell then. Money.
October 2008
Screw the media and the pundits, they haven’t been right about anything for years.
Don’t vote for Obama because of his color and don’t vote against him for that reason, either. If you feel in your heart of hearts that he is not qualified for the job and/or someone else is more qualified, then make the best decision you can for your country. Vote like yours is the only vote that counts! In the end, you’re the only one that has to look his or herself in the mirror.
This is the way I see it:
I am perfectly willing to vote for a black man (or woman) for president if I believe that they are the best candidate for the job.
BUT, at the same time, I don’t feel any obligation whatsoever to do so.
Were I an undecided white voter right now, this constant whining about “racism” from the Democrats would strike me as an attempt to instill “white guilt” in me and would actually make me less likely, not more likely, to vote for him.
These Obamacrappas JUST DON”T GET IT.
They don’t need to change Obama’s skin color, they need to change his policies, associations, lack of leadership, lack of experience, present votes, support for live birth abortions, fondness for gansta rap, misogyny.
But what they really don’t get is IT”S TOO LATE.
YOU ELEVATE THE CRAPPY CANDIDATE, YOU LOSE!
Obama is not going to win and everyone knows it. I think irresponsible people are saying stuff like this to cover for their bad judgement in supporting Obama.
If Obama loses, it’s nobody “fault.” Obama’s loss rests on the shoulders of the ghost army of racist voters.
It’s a pretty lame excuse for the Crappy Candidate who was sold as “POST RACIAL”.
Calling someone a racist because you have a different world view, is ignorant.
It means the person who is making the accusation , feels them self to be superior , and comfortable labelling someone they do not know.
What is most disconcerting to me is that the more I learn about our financial crisis the more I believe that Democrats have sat on their hands and facilitated the meltdown to help ensure a Democratic victory in November. That is so completely awful, even traitorous, that I have just never opened my mind to its possibility. Now I can’t keep it from my mind.
that saddens me too, jangles. Its time for a change. to remove corruption from the democratic party. I only hope Hillary would have been the democratic nominee. She would have cleaned house and given practical solutions, and motivated all democrats to work for the good of the country.
I was just going through some of my papers I’ve got stacked around me and came across this summary that was sent to me by a long-time friend. It really speaks to the differences between Senator McCain and Obama:
Long-time friend, you know who you are – thank you for sending me this intelligent analysis. It is so right on and so not racist!
oh my gosh…Amen to THAT!
I believe the media is using racism against the Dem voters because they cannot admit that after pushing this empty suit for 20 months he is going to lose. They don’t want to be the ones who guessed wrong.
I agree except for the guess part. It is more that they banked on him via overt action and manipulation. In other words in bed with the bastard.
Kurtz is right about the Annenberg Project. I just read the evaluation report on the project and while that is not an indepth study of the project papers it was obvious that the whole thrust of the project was driven by Ayers world view that what was wrong with Chicago inner-city schools was a political problem, not an educational resources problem. The “treatment” for project schools was aimed at participation in the political process of school governance; it was not aimed at addressing the deficits in education basics—reading, math, science, technology access. Parents advocating for their children is important but if it does not result in state-of-the-art resources for learning and first class, well prepared educators in the classroom then learning is not going to improve. Anyone reading this analysis and looking at Obama’s proposals for summer youth camps on community organizing should have many questions about the efficacy of such ideas. That is change that requires a delusional hope.
The reason why the Democratic Party is desperate to paint an Obama loss as racist is actually quite simple and clear: in an anti-Republican climate, with all the signs pointing to a rejection of the incumbent party, by fielding a candidate who (regardless of race) possesses every single one of the characteristics of the archteypal liberal Democrat politician, a Democratic loss will mean one thing very strongly: America rejects the Democratic Party and what it stands for. That is why the Democrats are so desperate to find a scandalous reason like racism as a diversion. An Obama loss will signal that the Democratic Party does not represent the will of the American people. Such a result will most certainly result in the destruction of the Democratic Party as we know it.
Fuck the DNC/MSM/Ohitler and their evil plan.
I think not.
I’m a liberal, and if Obama were a liberal, I’d know it.
I agree.
I do not think any liberal would think it’s OK to win, in part, due to sexism leveled against an opponent. And, I do not think a liberal would think it OK to exploit ageism.
Obama seems more beholden to fixed, biased viewpoints and to the powers-that-be, than he does to progress.
Obama has been manufactured and marketed like Bush, and is the flip side of the neo-con fascist coin.
A vote for Obama is a vote to continue in the way of GWB.
Many candidates have to overcome negative, including prejudiced, views about them. Hillary had to convince voters that she would be a strong commander-in-chief. McCain had to prove he’s not too old, Palin that she’s not too inexperienced. Hillary didn’t whine that people would not cast a ballot for her because she’s a woman or insist that it’s her time. She got out on the stump and won over blue-collar males and showed that she could take on anyone. McCain made jokes about his age and showcased his spry 95-year-old mom. Palin has put herself on the hot seat and provided details about her executive experience. Bobo, on the other hand, has played the race card at every opportunity and never once tried to convince people that he’s not The Black Candidate. He’s dodged every difficult forum he could manage, even going on vacations and touring Europe. He’s allowed people spouting Afrocentrism and black liberation theology to speak for him and declined to chide racists like Spike Lee, Ludacris, and Josh Howard who support him and imply threats to white folk. So, if racism got into this contest, who brought it?
Michael Barrone had the best explanation of the divide among democrats. If you look at who voted for Obama – it was Af-Americans, urban elite whites, and those in university towns. Clinton kicked his butt with small town, rural voters, as well as, “lunch bucket” dems – and, I would add, those who idealogically relate those groups.
Nothing has changed. The worst case scenario for dems is the republicans run someone who is acceptable to democrats (dems whose 1st choice lost). That is what has happened with McCain. ADD to that, McCain choses “one of them” as his running mate.
If Sarah Palin can define who she is, (because a lot of women, Clinton voters that I know, believe the emails), more of these “disaffected” dems will move over to McCain.
I have corrected several women on Palin’s stances on aerial wolf shooting, book banning, etc. If Palin is authentic in her primetime shots (ie debates), she could win these women, Hillary voters, over. Palin needs to say she will not ban books, push for creationism in schools, etc. – IF THAT IS WHO SHE TRULY IS.
So if racism is such a cause for Obama to lose why did not the Superdelegates who decided the Democratic candidate this year have the political intelligence to think of that possibility in their choice of who the candidate was going to be. Certainly the voters gave them 2 choices. Should they just admit they were politically clueless—oh yeah it’s rampant racism that is going to screw us out of victory once again, but my gosh we just never thought about that. Thus they are either wrong in their reasons why Obama is losing this thing or they have to admit they are/were clueless and should not be making decisions about anything, least of all presidential nominees, the American economy, national security, healthcare and …………………………………
jangles, I’ll explain, but you’ll not like it. Obama is in the mould of dukakis, kerry. Ordinary americans think that they were elitists. The only dem candidate who actually connected with all people was Bill Clinton. As long as the dems nominate elitists, the repubs will be elected. Hillary is like a copy of Bill. She connects. If she was the nominee, believe me, it would have been a land-slide. and remember, the clintons know how to handle the repubs. They have done that throughout their career.
If we are going to be guilt-tripped into voting for someone, there will be no end of it.
It won’t stop with the inauguration. We won’t be question the prez because he’s black, we won’t be able to critique his poliicies, because it’s racist. And when we finally don’t reelect him, THAT will prove our racism.
This nonsense has got to stop.
This is unrelated to the parent article, but I have been seeing an increasing number of articles on left-leaning blogs and news sites basically claiming that if Obama doesn’t win it will be because of white racism. Even uber-Democrat Bob Beckel was on Fox News today addressing the question “Can racist voters’ minds be changed?”
This leads me to wonder if the Dems aren’t perhaps seeing some things in their internal polling that have them worried.
Two things:
1.) They continue to play the white guilt card because they have no other cards left.
2.) When they lose they have someone to blame but themselves.
Dead on. the ones who are screaming racism are the ones who insisted this candidacy was a good idea, and are about saving their own butts by blaming others.
Look in the mirror Pelosi, Reid, Dashchle, Kerry, Kennedy, Arrianna, Matthews, Olbermann, Caroline, Dean, Brazile… You are to blame for dem losses, not the people. Talk about elitist BS blaming racism.
notice I said “archetypal liberal Democratic politician” not “liberal”. authentic liberal ideals are often in conflict with the cynical, corrupt, marxist-authoritarian reality the “liberal wing of the Democratic party” espouses. In many cases, so-called “liberal democrats” are anything but liberal. The Democratic Party, which is just a corrupt body, has hijacked liberal idealism for its own purposes. High time it was put out to pasture.
i think michelle would look good [ADMIN. -- RACIST COMMENT REMOVED]
Let me get this straight. The DNC and the media tells us we have to vote for Obama because he is black. But, if we don’t vote for Obama it’s because he is black and we are racists. I need a drink!
and you left out this part:
If you are black and vote for him you are not a racist. If you do not vote for him and you are white you are a racist. If you do not vote for him and you are black you are an (uncle tom) racist “race traitor.” And don’t forget Ohitler is actually biracial so even if you are white and vote for him you are one-half racist for voting for his white half because you are white.
I think you see my point how utterly childishly absurd all of this is.
Obama is black?
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says the prospect of a massive government bailout of the financial industry means that he probably would have to delay the spending programs he has called for during his campaign.
It’s called REALITY Obama. News flash: all that talk talk talk actually comes down to real legislation, numbers, and people.
As far as the racism charge goes: what else is new? I could care less what kind of excuses and “analysis” they come up with. someone tell the media that people actually OWN THEIR VOTE, and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it on November 4th. Of course, they will cry and whine. Who cares? They’ve lost credibility at this point anyway.
I care. They have lost all credibility to you and I but they are having an impact on other folks. They could throw the election to Ohitler. Don’t forget the MSM helped Bush to get his Iraq war.
The Dem Party lost all outward appearances of decency and integrity on May 31, but the coup was in the works long before that. I hope we can salvage honor out of this whole mess come Nov. 4.
It’s a strange feeling for me to hope that the Repubs will get going with all they should have to derail Obama and do it soon, soon, soon. I’m very nervous.
A couple of thoughts:
1–Regarding the Biden “taking back the apology”, the first thing I noted was that Biden is not DIRECTLY quoted as doing so; the apology came from an Obama SPOKESMAN. We only have the word of the SPOKESMAN that Biden said any of that. (IOW, a very big grain of salt–about the size of the moon–should be taken in believing that Biden really wrote the statement.)
2–In response to the statement, “How do you go about proving your vote for McCain or a third party candidate is NOT just a racist one? Actually, you can’t. So, the pundits are safe here – they can never be disproven.” How about reminding the press and pundits that there is ANOTHER African-American candidate running for President: Cynthia McKinney (and her VP candidate is also African-American with strong ties to the Latino community). Maybe someone should point out the media’s OWN racism by its overall failure (or maybe, reluctance) to acknowledge the OTHER African-American in the race. Wouldn’t it be sweet for someone to accuse the media of racism? (To a degree it’s not far removed from the way Hollywood was accused for so long of being racist in its inability to “give” a Best Actor/Actress/Director Academy Award to an African-American despite the great work done by AAs over the years.)
NICE headline.
OT
Tomorrow is the 24th of September – the day Obama and the DNC are both required to present documentation supporting Obama’s eligibility to run for the presidency.
I haven’t checked Philip Berg’s site yet (Berg vs Obama) but I will right after posting this. I wonder if they will comply or will someone with Money and power have stepped in to scotch the deal. Nothing about this election surprises me anymore. So many strings have been pulled in his favor and with Fox News even taking a sip of the kool-aid getting any truth through the media is off the books.
Why no word, either from the FEC? Don’t the rules and election laws apply to the “ONE”? If this lawsuit is dismissed we had all better be forewarned of what is to come if Obama should be elected.
WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE IN AUTHORITY TO DEMAND A LEGAL CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE? And WHY, when it would settle matters, does Obama not come forth with the same?
It makes you wonder what game he is playing, doesn’t it? Either there is something damning about that birth certificate or he’s going to pull something cute regarding it.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the MSM gave mention to this issue.
Seems they haven’t had any problem reporting (and I use that term loosely– very, very loosely) on McCain’s Panama Canal issue.
I do hate me some MSM.
Sorry Folks – TODAY is the day the papers were to be filed. Wednesday 24th of Sept. No update as of yet.
I just checked “America’s Right” blog, which has been keeping an active account of what is happening.
Excellent article. I’m late to the party but would like to add my 2 cents worth. I suspect there’s more meat to the Obama-Ayres connection than meets the eye. There’s a work in progress of Dr. Kate’s now posted at TD’s website. I was directed there last night through a NQ link. Anyway, some suspect BO first met William Ayers as a student at Columbia U in the 80s. Might this early connection with Ayres explain the so called “lost years” in BO’s bio?
Eerily, Dr. Kate begins her expose with a poem currently posted on the website of William Ayres:
“The end of an empire is messy at best
And this empire is ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
We’re adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free.
Good-bye. Good-bye. Good-bye”
Is Ayres hinting at some sort of scenario relating to an Obama Presidency or is this just a whole lot of BS? I’m not one to easily buy into conspiracy theories, but this candidate, BO, has too many holes and “fill in the blanks” in his past that even I’m starting to wonder who’s “Trojan Horse” is Barack Obama?
This is what I am hoping for: I hope the American public is afraid of having a far-left wing Dem in the White House with a Democratic Congress. They must have seen the problems that arose from having a far right White House with a Republican Congress. I hope they really, really understand the need at this point to have some cross-party work. I hope to the Almighty (Who/Whatever that is) they put a person who is known for crossing parties in the White House and then vote the Congress blue. (I have some great down ticket Dems to vote for.)
As a Hillary supporter, I say NObama. I am NOT a racist. We need to keep saying this in honor of the many, many outstanding AAs who supported Hillary: we are voting against O’s half-Caucasion, inept, inexperienced, bullying, snooty, fraudulant, sleazy side.
Obama has been weighed in the balance and found wanting. Does that clear it up for you racist screaming fools? Well, huh?
That vote in Congress on McCain eligibility to run for Pres. was supposed to be a set-up for Obama, however, the addition BO tried to tack on didn’t get into the final resolution. I don’t have a link to that, but I remember reading about it at the time. I’m sure, also, that the break-in to the passport files at the State Dept. wasn’t just someone who was curious. AS USUAL, NOTHING WAS MADE OF THE FACT THAT OBAMA’S ADVISOR OWNED THE COMPANY that hired those temps.
SO true, the fix for BO has been in for a while.
William Ayers is widley rumored to be the Ghost Writer for Obama first Book: Dreams from my Father. Apparently, Obama could not finished the book even though the publishers had advanced him $100,000., The writing style is very similar to that of Bill Ayers. Just google it.
OT but VERY interesting and a little disturbing.
Here is a survey/petition just put out by MediaMatters dealing with voters’ discontent as to how the primary debates were handled.
The survey/petition asks readers what topics they would like to see moderators/journalists cover during the debates.
Although I agree wholeheartedly that the management and coverage of the primary debates was a joke- a total waste of my valuable time while I watched them-
I refuse to complete this survey or sign the petition. Here is why…
http://mediamattersaction.org/ctd/petition?src=ctd-9
Take a look at the suggested topics for discussion. I ownder what category we would place issues dealing with personal integrity and questionable associations under?
It appears to me that these are important issues dealing with Sen Obama’s candidacy however this line of questioning (as proposed by the survey choices) is not being presented to the voters taking the survey as an option for topics to be discussed during debates.
Why not?
We have a democratic candidate running for president of the USA and his major claim to fame has been that he is a ‘Professional Candidate” who, once elected does very little in office for the middle class and poor.
Sen Onbama has so many clouds hanging over his candidacy (troop return delay,Ayers relationship, Berg lawsuit, Unlawful detention of Larry Sinclair, eligibility for candidacy etc…) however, this survey does not include a category where these issues might be covered under.
Also, the survey/petition has “Other” check-off and no comments section so that voters taking the survey can voice their concerns on issues they want to see discussed in debates.
How will this be captured in any debate if the designers of this survey have not put in any option for voters to indicate that they want the debates to handle issues of personal integrity, candidate’s past associations etc…
Maybe its just me, but I do not like the way this Media Matters survey is written. It appears as if the people who designed this survey do not want these issues (personal integrity, past associations) to be taken into consideration at all…
Here is some background on Media Matters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America
Excerpt from Wikipedia.org
“Funding sources
In May 2004, the New York Times reported that Media Matters has received “more than $2 million in donations from wealthy liberals” and “was developed with help from the newly formed Center for American Progress”.[23] According to the Cybercast News Service, Media Matters has received financial support from MoveOn.org, Peter Lewis, and the New Democratic Network.[24]
According to Bill O’Reilly and others, George Soros is funding Media Matters through Democracy Alliance — an organization of progressive donors.[25][26] The Democracy Alliance does not collect and distribute money on behalf of its members. Alliance members donate directly to the organizations of their choice.[27] Media Matters has stated publicly on numerous occasions that Soros has never given money to the organization either directly or through another organization”
corrrection-
There is NO “Other” check off option on the survey.
There is NO “Comments” section on the survey either
September 23, 2008 FYI:
JERUSALEM : In spite of Sen. Barack Obama’s claims to the contrary, the Democratic presidential nominee had a close working relationship with former Weathermen terrorist leader William Ayers when the two served alongside each other on a hundred-million-dollar education foundation, according to the group’s own archived records.
The records also show Obama’s and Ayers’ foundation granted money to radical leftist activist causes.
Obama worked closely with terrorist Bill Ayers
Records show collaboration on funding leftists despite claim he’s just ‘a guy’ in neighborhood
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76022
Obama going to “Debate Camp”
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/obamas_debate_camp_florida.html
now we kmow for sure, that this lament is another racist propaganda by Obamas c;lan. That is what they are they did in Primarien against Hillary/Bill , McCan / Palin currently. They started, they will pay for. No one told Obama to the be dirtiest politician(no expetience necessery), He choose this path of lies, hate,dirt,corruption. He choose, ant try to throw at US, but we are waking up.
Obama can blame himself for racism, not US, we were ready to choose Him for President and HE blew that, on top of all, He intetionaly disrespect all americans on every possible level. He did that on His own, He dont deserve to be President, for what He did to us MIDDLE CLASS,disable,old,woman(typical white)man.
I have watched this presidential contest since it began.
Fox is the ONLY media coverage that is fair.
There has been no mention of CNN’s “Cafferty Files” as another outlet of vicious remarks pertaining to anyone but Obama.
Mr. Cafferty reads a biased question then answers it with a more vicious and biased answer.
This segment is done DAILY.
Please investigate the vicious remarks he reads to CNN viewers.
It really should be addressed.
A Plea to the Media:
Vet Obama!
Below is a limited list of areas where the media has failed to investigate Obama.
This list does not include Obama’s many policy reversals or outright fabrications, like the statement that the Kennedy family facilitated his father coming to the United States.
It does not include Obama’s habit of voting %u2018present’ as a member of the Illinois State Senate nor his strange maneuverings regarding a born alive bill.
Instead, the list below concerns Obama’s associates and business dealings.
It is a sordid group, comprised of the America-hating, anti-Israel, and explicitly racial Left. There is big money involved, as with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and bizarre organizations to which money was funneled.
Obama’s milieu is the intersection of Chicago politics and the fringe Left; there is much to be explored and explained about Obama. Below is a partial list where Obama remains unvetted:
1. Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama’s 20-year membership in an explicitly racist church, a church with rhetoric too hot for Oprah.
2. Rezko. Obama’s ties to Tony Rezko and the 2005 purchase of the Obamas’ home. Obama funnelling money to Rezko’s sleazy businesses.
3. Ayers. Obama’s extensive ties to unrepentant terroist Bill Ayers.
4. Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC). Obama and Ayers together dispensing tens of millions of dollars supposedly for educational organizations.
Although now just being investigated, it’s known that money was funnelled to Ayers’ friend, radical Mike Klonsky, a founding member of the Maoist Party of the United States.
5. Minister Louis Farrakhan. Obama is surrounded by people like Rev. Willie Barrow, a friend and admirer of the anti-white, anti-Semitic Farrakhan.
If the media doesn’t do their job, we may end up with this guy as President.
I don’t have to proove anything!! I don’t care if people think I’m not voting for him because I’m a racist. I know we are all racists in our minds, our thoughts, and our actions..sometimes!! But you answered you own question:
“A second reason is that it is inconceivable to most liberals that an Obama loss — especially a narrow one — will be due to Obama’s liberal views or inexperience or to admiration for John McCain.”
It’s called inexperience..it’s called unsavory role models, it’s called lies, and deceit!! I’ve had enough of that and so have many ,many of us.
By the way, I read several months ago, that Ayers was not only on CAC with BO, but Ayes is the one who held BO’s coming out party, as a candidate for State Senate in Chicago…what does that say about him ?