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	<title>Comments on: When it Comes to the Wall Street Collapse, McCain&#8217;s Hands are Clean</title>
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		<title>By: tish</title>
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		<dc:creator>tish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahmainjehad knew about this because they are all in on it, just like they manipulated the gas, they are doing it to the markets tooo,,but i heard iran blew obama off today,,they arent talking to him or anyone, obama thinks he has control over these thugs of the world, but he is in for a big surprise, they are playing him..just the same as he is playing us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahmainjehad knew about this because they are all in on it, just like they manipulated the gas, they are doing it to the markets tooo,,but i heard iran blew obama off today,,they arent talking to him or anyone, obama thinks he has control over these thugs of the world, but he is in for a big surprise, they are playing him..just the same as he is playing us</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dilettantes would not know Arrow-Debreu if it took a bite out of your collective ass the size of a dumpster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dilettantes would not know Arrow-Debreu if it took a bite out of your collective ass the size of a dumpster.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny at Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny at Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest going viral and emailing this post to everyone you know. I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest going viral and emailing this post to everyone you know. I have.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny at Work</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/when-it-comes-to-the-wall-street-collapse-mccains-hands-are-clean/#comment-767718</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny at Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you need to re-read the post. Your comprehension is a little short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you need to re-read the post. Your comprehension is a little short.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny at Work</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/when-it-comes-to-the-wall-street-collapse-mccains-hands-are-clean/#comment-767713</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny at Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Government and the taxpayers are not exactly getting nothing for $800 billion.

Unlike when the Gov&#039;t usually spends tax dollars, they are getting an INVESTMENT.

The proposal is to buy the bad debt in the form of either the bundled securities, or the actual paper loans. The purchase is proposed at 30 - 70 cents on the dollar.

Eventually, these loans may have more value than 30 - 70 cents on the dollar. In that case, the Gov&#039;t and THE TAXPAYER stand to gain a profit.

The problem for Fannie, Freddie, and Investment Banks, is that none of them have anywhere near the assets to cover 800 billion in bad debt for 5 weeks, much less a few years.

The Fed Gov&#039;t is the only entity that can cover that amount of liability.

And, at 30 - 70 cents on the dollar, the banks will still have substantial losses for their greed and stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government and the taxpayers are not exactly getting nothing for $800 billion.</p>
<p>Unlike when the Gov&#8217;t usually spends tax dollars, they are getting an INVESTMENT.</p>
<p>The proposal is to buy the bad debt in the form of either the bundled securities, or the actual paper loans. The purchase is proposed at 30 &#8211; 70 cents on the dollar.</p>
<p>Eventually, these loans may have more value than 30 &#8211; 70 cents on the dollar. In that case, the Gov&#8217;t and THE TAXPAYER stand to gain a profit.</p>
<p>The problem for Fannie, Freddie, and Investment Banks, is that none of them have anywhere near the assets to cover 800 billion in bad debt for 5 weeks, much less a few years.</p>
<p>The Fed Gov&#8217;t is the only entity that can cover that amount of liability.</p>
<p>And, at 30 &#8211; 70 cents on the dollar, the banks will still have substantial losses for their greed and stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/23/when-it-comes-to-the-wall-street-collapse-mccains-hands-are-clean/#comment-767701</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;His actions clearly demonstrate his “maverick” characteristic&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

McCain voted with the Bush administration 91% over it&#039;s lifetime and 95% within this last year.

Maverick? That&#039;s a lotta bull.

That&#039;s a mule, not a maverick, townie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;His actions clearly demonstrate his “maverick” characteristic&#8221;</em></p>
<p>McCain voted with the Bush administration 91% over it&#8217;s lifetime and 95% within this last year.</p>
<p>Maverick? That&#8217;s a lotta bull.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a mule, not a maverick, townie.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That goddam Orangeman missed the circles of gold stars that riddled Ireland these past 15 years or so.  The EU put into Ireland about as much as those &lt;em&gt;Sasana&lt;/em&gt; bastards sucked out our blood over the past 700 years (before we bit the hand that bled us, of course).  It is no wonder that they can offer low taxes, in some cases NO taxes.

So, kiddiepoos, how about going to the EU for a handout to lower our taxes and lure Intel back to our fair shores from Kildare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That goddam Orangeman missed the circles of gold stars that riddled Ireland these past 15 years or so.  The EU put into Ireland about as much as those <em>Sasana</em> bastards sucked out our blood over the past 700 years (before we bit the hand that bled us, of course).  It is no wonder that they can offer low taxes, in some cases NO taxes.</p>
<p>So, kiddiepoos, how about going to the EU for a handout to lower our taxes and lure Intel back to our fair shores from Kildare?</p>
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		<title>By: old gray mare</title>
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		<dc:creator>old gray mare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good research.  Best summary, yet.

McCain has got to flood the airways with 1,000 video ads touting his foresight:  Immediately!  His actions clearly demonstrate his &quot;maverick&quot; characteristic. Kudos, as well to Dole, Sununu and Hagel.  

So sad that 96 members of the Senate put their own interests ahead of the taxpayers who were, unknowingly, making the Fan/Fred con-men filthy rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good research.  Best summary, yet.</p>
<p>McCain has got to flood the airways with 1,000 video ads touting his foresight:  Immediately!  His actions clearly demonstrate his &#8220;maverick&#8221; characteristic. Kudos, as well to Dole, Sununu and Hagel.  </p>
<p>So sad that 96 members of the Senate put their own interests ahead of the taxpayers who were, unknowingly, making the Fan/Fred con-men filthy rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British take on this crisis at end of last year...
Comedians Bird and Fortune...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJmTCYmo9g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>British take on this crisis at end of last year&#8230;<br />
Comedians Bird and Fortune&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJmTCYmo9g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJmTCYmo9g</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rat-a-tat-tat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rat-a-tat-tat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why hasn&#039;t McCain et al put this information out there??  Mitt Romney and the gang should be bringing this up every opp they have on TV!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why hasn&#8217;t McCain et al put this information out there??  Mitt Romney and the gang should be bringing this up every opp they have on TV!</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh...  Is it just me, or does that relevant section sound like &lt;strong&gt;total insanity&lt;/strong&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;  Is it just me, or does that relevant section sound like <strong>total insanity</strong>?</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bail-outs are the price we pay for tax cuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bail-outs are the price we pay for tax cuts.</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just watching McCain answering questions in Freeland, Michigan.  The topic was the $800 billion bail-out proposal--a $10,000 commitment on the part of every household in America, he pointed out.  

A question came up:  Where do we get the money?  What will have to be cut from the budget to pay for this?   

John&#039;s answer?  There&#039;s no transcript yet, so I&#039;ll paraphrase:

&lt;em&gt;We need to cut taxes to grow the economy.  Ireland taxes business at an 11% rate.  Here, we tax business at over 30%.  &lt;/em&gt;

So, we&#039;ll deal with the cost of an $800 billion Wall Street handout by reducing their taxes, and reducing federal revenues?  

John was also asked what he thought about including stimulus provisions in the bail-out package to ease the difficulties on Main Street.  

&lt;em&gt;Nope&lt;/em&gt;, says John.  &lt;em&gt;Nothing should be attached to the bail-out legislation.  It should stick to it&#039;s single defined purpose.&lt;/em&gt; 

The way I read this--the reality of it---is that we&#039;re basically just going &lt;em&gt;create&lt;/em&gt; the bail-out money.  The cost will be &lt;em&gt;inflation&lt;/em&gt;--a further drop in the value of the dollar, which has already dropped 41% since Bush took office.  

If anyone has a more cheerful interpretation, I sure would like to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just watching McCain answering questions in Freeland, Michigan.  The topic was the $800 billion bail-out proposal&#8211;a $10,000 commitment on the part of every household in America, he pointed out.  </p>
<p>A question came up:  Where do we get the money?  What will have to be cut from the budget to pay for this?   </p>
<p>John&#8217;s answer?  There&#8217;s no transcript yet, so I&#8217;ll paraphrase:</p>
<p><em>We need to cut taxes to grow the economy.  Ireland taxes business at an 11% rate.  Here, we tax business at over 30%.  </em></p>
<p>So, we&#8217;ll deal with the cost of an $800 billion Wall Street handout by reducing their taxes, and reducing federal revenues?  </p>
<p>John was also asked what he thought about including stimulus provisions in the bail-out package to ease the difficulties on Main Street.  </p>
<p><em>Nope</em>, says John.  <em>Nothing should be attached to the bail-out legislation.  It should stick to it&#8217;s single defined purpose.</em> </p>
<p>The way I read this&#8211;the reality of it&#8212;is that we&#8217;re basically just going <em>create</em> the bail-out money.  The cost will be <em>inflation</em>&#8211;a further drop in the value of the dollar, which has already dropped 41% since Bush took office.  </p>
<p>If anyone has a more cheerful interpretation, I sure would like to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: dt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Larry.  Thanks for all the details.  Obama is a fraud and the media is aiding and abetting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Larry.  Thanks for all the details.  Obama is a fraud and the media is aiding and abetting.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnson, ever since the shit hit the fan all the old Reagan sycophants have made a stampede for the Spic &#039;N Span.

The sky is black with flights of  chickens coming home to roost.

McCain has been an unfettered free market acolyte since he got to Congress in the Reagan years when the damage was first done.

Worse yet, McCain has voted with the Bush administration&#039;s wishes, economic or not, 91% of the time.  Then, to gag the maggot, over the last year he voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time.

Book &#039;em Dano.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnson, ever since the shit hit the fan all the old Reagan sycophants have made a stampede for the Spic &#8216;N Span.</p>
<p>The sky is black with flights of  chickens coming home to roost.</p>
<p>McCain has been an unfettered free market acolyte since he got to Congress in the Reagan years when the damage was first done.</p>
<p>Worse yet, McCain has voted with the Bush administration&#8217;s wishes, economic or not, 91% of the time.  Then, to gag the maggot, over the last year he voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time.</p>
<p>Book &#8216;em Dano.</p>
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