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Bush Calls Obama Back to Washington

Wednesday’s news came fast and furious. Where to begin… …or end?

Senator McCain surprised everyone mid-afternoon with announcement that he was halting his campaign, suspending ads, requesting delay in Friday’s debate, and returning to Washington tomorrow to help address the nation’s financial crisis. Senator Obama quickly claimed “me too” but only in timing. Obama refused to suspend his campaign, return to DC, or reschedule the debate.

In his petulance, Obama made a stunning gaffe in refusing to respond to the financial crisis and return to DC, saying ‘if they [Congress] need me, they’ll call me.’ In what has to be the quote of the day, if not the election, Obama said:

“Apparently, this was something that, you know, he was more decisive about…”—Barack Obama speaking about John McCain action to stop campaigning.

The contrast in leadership between McCain and Obama is stark: McCain rolls up his sleeves and says ‘let’s get something done.’ while Obama says ‘call me if you need me.’

Yes, Obama went on to explain:

“I believe that we should continue to have the debate,” he said. “I think that it makes sense for us to present ourselves before the American people, to talk about the nature of the problems that we’re having in our financial system, to talk about how it relates to our global standing in the world, what implications it has for our national security, how it relates to critical questions, like the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

“We’ve both got big planes. We’ve painted our slogans on the sides of them. They can get us from Washington, D.C., to Mississippi fairly quickly.”—Barack Obama as quoted by Shailagh Murray in the Washington Post.

Incredible! Obama chose to campaign rather than address the nation’s crisis.

Sen. Lindsey Graham summed up the challenge on Fox News’s “America’s Election HQ”:

“We don’t want a debate! We want a solution. We’ve got 40 days to debate. We’ve been begging this guy to debate us for six months now. What we need is for the Congress to answer the call of Secretary Paulson and Ben Bernanke and Warren Buffett and every other smart person to not allow a financial PEARL HARBOR to happen.”

Host: Senator Obama has suggested that a president needs to be able to do a number of things at the same time …. like have a debate for example and be able to have his finger on the pulse of what is going on in Washington. Is he right about that?

Sen. Graham: I would think that if the president were overseas right now and talking to a foreign leader, they would get on a plane and come back home because the country is experiencing a financial crisis. If either one of these people were president, and they were overseas talking about some foreign policy matter, I hope they would have the good judgment to jump on a plane and come back to the United States and call an emergency session of the Congressional leaders to avoid what Warren Buffett calls a ‘financial Pearl Harbor’. That to me is what we need to do.

We have 40 days left to debate. We may not have but a few days left to protect American savings and financial institutions from collapse, and after the two days you’ve seen here in Congress of nothing but posturing, we’re running out of time.

Well, President Bush did finally call Senator Obama and invite him to join everyone at the White House Thursday to discuss the financial crisis. It is absolutely stunning that Obama, a candidate for president, failed his 3 a.m. moment, requiring an invitation to return to Washington rather than, like McCain, realizing that the moment required leadership and action.

Finally, Wednesday evening President Bush addressed the nation (transcript) in sobering language:

“We are in the midst of a serious financial crisis…

…our entire economy is in danger.”

Even worse:

The market is not functioning properly. There has been a widespread loss of confidence, and major sectors of America’s financial system are at risk of shutting down.

The government’s top economic experts warn that, without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic and a distressing scenario would unfold.

Yes, President Bush addressed the nation in a prime time to say that the economy was near collapse (and that his eight years as president were ending in complete and utter failure.) The budget surpluses in 2000 were replaced with an economy today on the brink of a depression.

Thus,

    Bush: Economy failing.
    McCain: Must address now.
    Obama: Thanks, but I’ll keep campaigning, how about our debate?

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Comment by Truthteller | 2008-09-25 00:27:43

Will Obama ask Rezko, Pritzker, Jim Johnson and Raines to join him in DC as he finds a way to ensure his friends will benefit from any bailout proposal?

Comment by Medusa | 2008-09-25 00:31:33

I hope Bozo is humiliated that Bush had to call him to DC for this crisis, while he was busy telling his tall-tales to the koolaid gang.

I cannot believe that he’s actually a candidate for president. It is shocking.

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 00:37:00

Everyday, when I see Barry on the news…I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

Comment by Sue | 2008-09-25 05:03:34

 
 
 

Comment by MCCAIN TRIED TO WARN US | 2008-09-25 00:50:01

JOHN MCCAIN SPEECH ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE IN 2006

FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005

Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Quick Info
S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
Status: Dead
WHO KILLED IT? OBAMA’S PALS

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-25 02:08:22

The 109th Congress was still in session. You are aware that Frist was Senate Majority leader?

McCain could not get a party line vote for the GOP President to sign? Wonder why that is?

Comment by Tyrione | 2008-09-25 03:05:32

McCain had crossed party lines and co-wrote several pieces of legislation [Ethics Reform with Feingold] and other pieces of legislation with Kennedy.

If you think the Neo-cons thought highly of this then you’re nuts.

Now that their candidate is on his way out, failed miserably, they are being told to get to the back of the line of the GOP.

 
 
 

Comment by Tyrione | 2008-09-25 02:08:28

Instead of bailing out the Mortgage brokers, let them fail. Let the independent banks come in and buy at Auction; and let the Federal Government do the only rational solution yet to be stated, other than by John McCain in passing:

Spend $700 Billion on Infrastructure solutions to re-invent the US and watch the economic long-term forecasting, job creation and steady, but boring markets fall in line.

Overall, then add an additional $700 Billion from the Private sector to jointly re-invent the Power Grid, Rails, Causeways, Waterways, Energy Solutions, et.al.

But no! We gots to save the Future! Future’s Markets for speculative traders.

Sorry, but the only rational action is to rebuild the Infrastructure. The solutions are in addressing the crumbling Domestic surroundings.

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-25 02:15:23

They don’t want WPA. They want to let Halliburton rebuild America. McCain’s no different, his campaign director Salter was an Arthur Anderson cat, you know the people who gamed power rate sharing in the southwest USA on power lines coming through Arizona from Texas on their way to Cali?

Comment by Tyrione | 2008-09-25 02:44:31

Joint Public/Private projects with high standards and long-term critical infrastructure advancements will disqualify Haliburton, on face value.

 
 
 
 

Comment by HillbillyforObama | 2008-09-25 00:29:29

I am not buying it. And the American people will not buy it. Mccain needs to pull stunts to win this election… And it’s not working for the poor fella. He’s not showing leadership.

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-09-25 00:30:25

Too bad your uninformed opinion does not matter.

 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 00:31:54

Where is the stunt? McCain showed leadership and Obama showed immature petulance. Obama failed his 3 a.m. moment, just as Clinton and others suggested he would.

Comment by HillbillyforObama | 2008-09-25 00:41:59

Suspending his campaign doesn’t show leadership. Immaturity and petulance describe Mccain these last couple of weeks. That’s why he had a big dip in the poll. Poor Fella. He has to pull stunts to win

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-09-25 00:44:03

You’re talking about Obamasoretoro of course…..oh, no sorry on re-read of your comment I see you’re just projecting like the typical Obama cultist.

 

Comment by Cinie | 2008-09-25 00:57:19

Uh, didn’t Obama “suspend” his campaign and go home during Hurricane Ike? And didn’t he cancel his “Saturday Night Live” appearance, too? How’s a hurricane he wasn’t going to be anywhere near trump showing up and doing his friggin’ job?

 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:05:12

Poor Fella. He has to pull stunts to win

The operative word is win.

Thanks!

 
 

Comment by PleaseNoObama | 2008-09-25 02:30:43

If McCain took a bullet to save an orphan you’d still call it a political stunt. You people don’t seem to realize that there actually are people who give a damn what happens to this country, and one of them is John McCain. Then again, that’s probably why you support Obama. You don’t give a damn.

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-09-25 04:49:19

Worse, these O supporters don’t get action is what is required. IF only they could apply their support of the one, to support of our country. That’s it, I get it now! The United States doesn’t matter( to the o supporters)unless Obama says it does. My God people listen to yourselves, have you fallen so deep in the rabbit hole, you can’t consider our country? I am talking about sans politicians, can you not see we are in a huge economic mess? Or are you all about having a talk about it, and you really believe that is all that is required for problem solving?
That is where the line in the sand is drawn for many of us. Most of us want what is best for our country, and NO ONE needs to inform us of what is going on, we know, we have a vested interest. The o campaign picks up the lazy, do nothing, crowd, who never did give a crap, and much like their lives wants nothing to do with personally rolling up their sleeves and helping unless there is a personalbenefit from it.
You know the type, recognition for most money thrown to their leader, first on a blog, everything done via lip service, but not one action to help others without looking for a pat on the back. Not an ounce of service to country in their blood.
Good luck on that.All that screaming about helping this group or that, but not a finger lifted, all talk, talk talk.

 
 
 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 00:40:53

So, leadership is sitting down in front of the cameras to do a debate where each opponent give sound bites to the American people? When people start to get pink slips because nothing comes forward in terms of a package, that debate will help them how?

 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-09-25 02:18:20

The move reeks of a stunt.

He claimed to want debate with Obama, and flip flopped.

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-09-25 06:47:59

McCain asked for 10 damn debates before the presidential debates, what did he get from Obama, nothing. Same with Hillary. After the ‘Ayers’ ABC debate Obama reneged on all the rest of the debates.

Its called irony. Your post therefore is moronic.

 

Comment by Jaycephus | 2008-09-25 14:25:13

Maybe we NEED a Stunt-man and not an Actor. Hmmmm?

Actually, I don’t smell ’stunt’. I do smell ‘leadership’ and a strong whiff of ‘Country First’.

What’s that wafting over from the Obama camp? ‘Fear’? ‘Apathy’? It sure as hell ain’t ‘Change’!

 
 
 

Comment by InsightAnalytical-GRL | 2008-09-25 00:29:58

The spin I heard from Adam Smith on Hannity tonight went like this:

Obama wants to be “helpful,” but doesn’t want to “insert himself” into the situation. (Those are the exact words in quotes)

Gee, what the hell would he do if he became President?? Isn’t that a job that requires “inserting” oneself? Even being a Senator…it’s not his job to “insert himself”????

Comment by pm317 | 2008-09-25 00:37:29

“inserting himself” whatever does it mean? He does not trust himself to do the right thing in a time of crisis (as a sitting senator) if not the political thing as a candidate? Is that what he means? He is truly bizarre. There was an article that explained why sometimes we scratch our heads at what he says or does. This is one of them. Here is the article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_odd_choices_in_barack_obam.html

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 00:55:50

Give him a chance, maybe he’ll next offer that it is ‘above his pay grade’.

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-25 06:52:31

 

Comment by Jaycephus | 2008-09-25 14:28:29

Owww, it burnsssss!

Good one.

You know what’s hilarious?

He’s not even voting ‘Present’ on this one!

 
 
 

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 00:48:20

Obamacus: Going to work at my job in the senate and help crafting a solution to this financial crisis is above my pay grade….

 

Comment by JM | 2008-09-25 04:20:11

I’d like to insert my foot into Obama’s ass as I kick him all the way back to Washington DC. Once there, I’d slap him on the side of the head and ask him “what the hell were you thinking” concerning his lame brained response to why he would not suspend his campaign for two or three days. The only change Obama wants is that which benefits himself, not the country.

 
 

Comment by camille | 2008-09-25 00:30:20

economy is not failing it will utterly collapse

oh yeah, never mind, Bush WANTS to go out on this note so he is making it ALL up

 

Comment by camille | 2008-09-25 00:31:29

McCain is doing the right thing.

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-25 01:37:05

Absolutely right.

It’s not going to kill anybody if they debate five days from now instead of two days from now — McCain is showing leadership and the appropriate (high) level of concern.

Obama is standing there with his finger in his ear, saying let everyone else handle it. Where is his leadership? Where is his understanding and desire to help?

He didn’t want to stop campaigning for an hour in Texas either to get over to New Orleans for the State of the Black Union. Couldn’t be bothered to attend MLK’s anniversary. It’s all about him and his campaign. I thought he was such a consensus builder — he has so little experience and a pitifully thin record to run on — when does he start showing some leadership?

If he feels he has nothing to contribute here, why should I trust him?

How is he magically going to turn into the person he pretends to be in three months? I don’t see it.

 
 

Comment by OBushMA! | 2008-09-25 00:33:31

Obama has no idea what he’s doing. Economy, what economy? Crisis, what crisis? Senator, what, I’m a senator? What, I have a day job to do?

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-09-25 00:49:55

He just wants to eat his waffle.

 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 00:34:32

Obama is indecisive. and he doesn’t care about the economy. he just wants to be president. If america is subjected to an obama presidency, it’ll be disastrous. Bush will come off smelling good. lol, what a nightmare!

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:15:24

G

Obama is indecisive. and he doesn’t care about the economy. he just wants to be president.

Obama has been caught truly flat-footed. God help him if he ever meets Vladimir Putin in thea dark alley of international politics.

 
 

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 00:34:42

Shorter Nobama:” Does this mean that they are cancelling the prom?”

Comment by Medusa | 2008-09-25 00:36:12

LOL!
“But I bought these new shoes and everything!”

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 00:41:46

I went to the foreign policy debate and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

 

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 00:46:03

…but…but…what about my TIARA?

 
 

Comment by Jaycephus | 2008-09-25 14:33:13

“I voted ‘absent’ on the financial crises before I voted ‘present’.”

 
 

Comment by WeNeedTheClintons | 2008-09-25 00:35:03

Holy hell. We need the Clintons. Not John McCain, and much less so Mr. KnowNothing, DoNothing Obama.

Hillary is the one who knows how to put our economy back on track. She and Bill actually care. I think McCain does too, but he doesn’t have the same level of knowledge the Clintons have. Obama doesn’t care at all and knows nothing.

Can we stage a mass rebellion and demand the Clintons back in the White House?

:(

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-25 02:06:04

I feel your sadness.

 

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-25 06:56:54

Bill Clinton was on Good Morning America and CBS Early Show putting his own intelligent perspective on the whole situation.

NBC on the other hand had Matt Lauer and Meredith Veira declaring that McCain’s move was just a political stunt. Interesting contrast!

Also bad move by Letterman last night to use footage from CBS Evening News to support his ridiculous rant about McCain cancelling on him. Does he really think that yucking it up on his show trumps helping to solve a major financial crisis. What a maroon…..

 
 

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 00:38:55

Poor Obamacus…spent all that time cramming for his foreign policy debate only to see it slip away.

Leadership: Call me when you need me.

LOL

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-25 06:59:54

I’m sure that having to fly back to Washington and not getting in all of his cramming will throw him off his well-planned game and upset his balanced plan. Guess what — when someone gets to be President, you are “always on call” and sometimes things don’t go exactly as planned.

 
 

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 00:39:12

The country wants a debate.

CNN poll:

John McCain’s request to delay campaigning and this week’s debate is…

An effort to help the economy 24%
A political gimmick 71%
Something else 5%

MSNBC poll:

Agree or Disagree: Friday’s presidential debate should be postponed so the candidates can focus on the economy

Strongly Agree 14.8%
Agree 4%
Neutral 1.1%
Disagree 9%
Strongly Disagree 71%

Survey USA:

The first debate between John McCain and Barack Obama is scheduled to take place in two days. Should the debate be held as scheduled? Should the debate be held, but the format changed to focus on the economy? Or, should the debate be postponed?

Held As Scheduled 50%
Held With Focus On Economy 36%
Postponed 10%
Not Sure 4%

In addition to the general public. Ole Miss’ president was not too pleased with McCain trying to back out. Understandable when your school is out $5.5 million spent preparing for the debate.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/ole-miss-offici.html

McCain also didn’t do himself any favors lying to Letterman as to why he couldn’t attend tonight.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/24/john-mccain-cancels-lette_n_128998.html

I know you guys really think that Obama looks bad in all this, and he may to you. But no one else thinks so. Republican and Democrats alike all think that this was a bad and clearly political move on McCain’s part. The only positive note you’ll hear on it is from McCain campaign staff who don’t want to get canned.

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 00:40:04

LOL

CNN…MSNBC…LOL

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 00:43:53

LMAO. That’s all they know. Let me guess, did Wolfie or Campbell give the poll results on CNN? Did Mathews or Alexis Olberman give the results?

 

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 00:47:53

Please show me a poll that shows otherwise. I tried Fox News but they didn’t do one.

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 01:03:16

HAha

Gretawire.com

It is a political stunt 37% (29641 votes)
He is putting country first 63% (49945 votes)
Total Votes: 79586

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:08:48

Ahh, congrats!!! and with less than half the number of the MSNBC poll, which forces you to attach your vote to an email address to lessen the number of revotes. Looks like it’s about a quarter of the number of votes the CNN poll got.

Remind me I owe you a cookie.

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 01:11:24

Oreos are my favorite!

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:13:18

Yeah they are… wait a second you are using that as a metaphor for something aren’t you?

Clever…

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:17:50

I believe he’s saying you’re a dork.

Next question?

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:31:29

Your Ad Hominem attacks have no place here. Besides, I’ll just defend myself with my superior wit and guile.

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 01:48:55

When do you plan to start?

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Comment by matchlesISanObamaLOSER | 2008-09-25 02:01:05

If you were confident you would win, you wouldn’t be here.

People, STOP talking to these Obamatrolls. DON’T debate them. It is pointless.

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Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 02:32:14

Hey you can’t take my name and then ignore me. I come here to see what you guys take to be the “turning point of the election” of the day. It is great fun to see Obama up 9 in the polls and have articles here saying the election is over McCain has won. Any response I get from you guys is just a bonus.

 
 

Comment by bemused | 2008-09-25 08:00:18

When do you plan to get some? Maybe you aren’t old enough yet for the hardcore common sense. Please, make yourself a fake backbone ID and get some, our country is melting down and you want to listen to Oblivious saying Umumum.

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Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 01:13:46

Really doesn’t matter what you think or the rest of you Obama trolls
We will have a deal that protects capital lending in this country and McCain will get the credit for bringing the fiscal conservatives and the republicans to the table to make it happen.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:22:03

Don’t think McCain is getting the credit. Dems already have agreed to a deal and are taking it to the Republicans tomorrow morning.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE48O0E620080925

 
 
 

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:16:33

Uh oh, you’ve lost 4 points in the last few minutes. It’s down to 39-61. Quick Pumas unite, with your powers combined you can win a poll on Fox News!!!

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:17:30

40-60… hurry!!!

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:19:50

Team Blowhard prefers empty talk to action.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:27:58

43-57… ouch

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:38:36

Comment by Freedom to Vote | 2008-09-25 02:04:37

On the poll its shows matchless 1: 99 on the issue of stupidity. Quick! drink more kool-aid and prostrate at the statute of your messiah!

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Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 02:29:21

51-49, shit you guys are even losing on Fox. Besides your Matchless poll is within the margin of error.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 00:44:42

Shall we through around a few more numbers?

On Fox it was 11% to hold the debate and 89% to delay.

I’m sure there are other comparable numbers around as well.

Anyway, do you seriously want Senators McCain and Obama to ignore the crises and continue campaigning?! You do realize, don’t you, that whichever wins in November will inherit whatever agreement is reached in DC? Yet, you’d have them sit this out!

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 00:49:18

The most ridiculous thing about this is that the debate is supposed to be on Foreign Policy! Why in the hell do Americans want to hear about that instead of how we’re going to fix this problem via a tangible solution that will be presented before the Asian markets open on Sunday night (here in the US)?

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:03:02

I’d be happy for the debate to on domestic policy. Can you imagine the shit fit McCain would throw considering he takes foreign policy to be his strength in this election?

 

Comment by DAB | 2008-09-25 07:04:22

I don’t think that economics should be the topic of the first debate because it would inject politics into the problem. Better to wait until the whole thing has settled down a bit and everyone has a better perspective on what has happened.

 
 

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 00:53:57

Where is the results? I’d be happy to look at them.

Yes I want Obama and McCain to continue campaigning. Neither is on the committee and the deal is being worked on behind closed doors. It doesn’t take 3 days to fly back and vote on the proposal so they wouldn’t be sitting it out as you suggest. Chris Dodd who is head of the committee said McCain hasn’t contacted him about the crisis. If you could tell me ONE thing he would actually DO in Washington maybe he’d be off the hook but it is clearly political.

Comment by pat johnston | 2008-09-25 01:42:34

It might be because Dodd got one of the biggest sweetheart deals on a house and in case you don’t know it Dodd and obama got the most money in contributions from fm and fm but that was before according to obama,they got caught. They weren’t crooks then but they are now according to him now.Please go pedal your garbage elsewhere.

 

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-25 02:00:45

Dodd is a crook so I don’t exactly want him making the decisions here.

 
 

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 00:59:50

Matthew, can you give me the link to the fox poll?

 

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:22:10

Yet, you’d have them sit this out!

David Axelrod unveils the Guiding Theme of “Presidency 2008″

Leadership through Passive-Aggression.

Don’t you feel safer already?

 

Comment by matchlesISanObamaLOSER | 2008-09-25 02:04:47

And, people actually watch Fox. Doesn’t Fox have the entire lineup of top ten shows on cable news?

 

Comment by ee | 2008-09-25 02:44:01

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/on-the-record-live-vote-7/
It is a political stunt 53% (55961 votes)
feedback bar
He is putting country first 47% (50229 votes)
feedback bar

 
 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-09-25 00:45:50

Yea right. One of these two men will inherit the trillion dollar bailout plan which is being voted on in the next few days on an economic crisis and people are worried about the delay in a debate by a week. You are as clueless as your dear leader.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 00:55:46

Right one of these two men will inherit the bailout and I, as well as most of America would like to hear from them about what they are going to do. The McCain camp is taking this low-info voter thing to a whole new level.

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:23:21

The McCain camp is taking this low-info voter thing to a whole new level.

Hey, nobody said reaching out to O’Bots would be easy.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:37:05

Oh snap. Mr. Natural once again proves John Gabriel’s Greater Internet Dickwad Theory.

Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Dickwad

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 01:51:42

Self portrait.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 02:22:16

Hey, until you actually contribute something to the discussion, let Mr. Natural respond. I realize the irony of the statement but in my defense I don’t think of you guys as an audience but more as a large group of extremely bitter people pissing away one of the last real chances to turn this country around.

 
 

Comment by matchlesISanObamaLOSER | 2008-09-25 02:14:11

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Matchles is a supporter of Barky O’bama. He is scared shitless that Barky will LOSE, LOSE, LOSE the election and LOSE, LOSE, LOSE badly. So, he comes to NQ and picks fights.

His sister Matchles Sue also comes to NQ, but she is a paid troll, making $7/ hr. to post for the O’Barky campaign.

ABO 08 - Anybody but Obama 2008

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 02:26:56

Nice, you know you’ve hit the big time when you get a screen name mocking you.

You’re a little off though, I don’t think Obama will lose, but you are right I am scared shitless of what will happen if he does. All McCain has shown this campaign is he doesn’t even possess the minuscule amount of common sense that Bush does.

I wish I could get paid for this.

Comment by JM | 2008-09-25 04:30:30

All the Obama hope got you down?

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 00:52:48

Did you see the little disclaimer at the bottom of the poll? It says: “This is not a scientific poll” Anyone can vote as many times as they like in that poll.

My guess is it’s being smurfed — a directed attack where people vote and vote and vote for their preferred outcome all night long.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 00:58:02

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02

The Survey USA poll is a scientific one, which oddly enough all of you have ignored so far. Please tell me how that one was fixed.

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 01:06:16

Caveats: This survey was completed in middle of unprecedented and fast-changing news events. This survey should be viewed as a freeze-frame snapshot of public opinion at a unique moment in American history. Opinions can and should be expected to change as news events unfold. SurveyUSA did not characterize Senator McCain’s comments nor Senator Obama’s comments in any way in the research questionnaire.

Asshat…

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:10:23

Good job you just gave the definition of a poll. What the hell did you think I was posting?

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-25 01:17:05

Polls don’t mean squat. The exit polls in 2004 said Kerry won.

We all know how well that turned out.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:26:20

You’re right, we should be seeing that 30 point swing any minute now making the “delay the debate” camp the majority.

 
 

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 01:18:52

Wow, you beat me to posting the caveat
This poll was taken six hours before Bush spoke to the nation.

As this all sinks in, opinion will change.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:24:30

Yeah Bush has a huge influence over the nation right now. That high 20s-low 30s approval rating gives you ton of political capital.

 
 
 
 

Comment by mel | 2008-09-25 01:39:52

Troll, this poll waas taken while most Americans are at work, so what is left besides students and ACORN people sitting at home doing nothing, so how scientific is a poll done when the majority is out earning a living and paying taxes?

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 01:48:28

If you have a more reliable poll or analysis I’d be happy to read it. Until then I’d take a poll with problems over your notion or gut feeling as to how the country will react.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-25 01:46:54

You are quoting polls from CNN and MSNBC — the all Obama all the time networks — we don’t watch those anymore because aside from Lou Dobbs on CNN, there is not a balanced one in the bunch. Who do you think is voting in those polls — mostly Obama supporters who can get their daily dose of Obama stroking and Obama kool-aid.

I have not turned on or tuned in to MSNBC since February.

Who gives a crap about their opinion polls. A lot of concerned Americans are not blogging on the internet or voting in polls — they are a little too busy worrying about their homes and retirement or keeping their jobs right now. As opposed to professional bloggers who keep blasting those polls with their own votes to make their candidate look better.

This fools no one.

I have been dying to get Obama in a debate with McCain on foreign policy. Obama is a chicken about debates. He has avoided John McCain’s town hall requests for months. But even I don’t care about seeing this debate Friday. We can see it next week — why in hell should it matter when we are in the middle of a crisis of epic proportion.

Don’t you think that is a priority? I don’t want a leader who is content to let everybody else “handle it” — first we had Bush the “decider” now we have Obama, the “delegater” (his word) — no thank you.

I want hands-on leadership.

He was in England talking to PM Gordon Brown bragging about his hands off management style — “you don’t want to be a dilettante,” he said.

Is he kidding. Obama is already the ultimate dilettante.

Comment by matchles | 2008-09-25 02:12:03

I was also quoting Survey USA. When did CNN become all Obama all the time? There is Cafferty, but that is about it.

Christ if all of America worried as much as you say they do there would be a worldwide shortage on ulcer medication. Do you really think people spend all day every day worrying about things out of their control? Besides MSNBC’s site gets over 37 million unique visitors a month with CNN a bit behind that. If all those visitors are Obama supporters than it doesn’t matter what “Kool-Aid” or “stroking” is going on Obama is going to destroy McCain.

I can’t wait for the debate either but this is just a cheap ploy to not have a VP debate. McCain’s proposal was to do this debate during the VP debate’s time slot and then reschedule the VP debate to an “unknown future date”. There have been other crises before and they never canceled a debate over it, the USS Cole Bombing for instance.

Neither Obama nor McCain is allowed in the closed door session where they are hammering out the deal. They get to vote, that is about it.

McCain may give you hands on experience as long as it doesn’t require multitasking. Don’t ask him to chew gum and walk at the same time, let alone deal with the war and the economy. If you’re into such a myopic single-minded approach to governing than by all means go for it.

I’m sorry but you lost the Obama is an unexperienced amateur argument when McCain nominated Palin VP.

Comment by JM | 2008-09-25 04:45:57

The last time I checked, it was Obama “The Inexperienced” who was running for President, not Sarah Palin. But then again, it behooves my former party (The Democrats) to makes this presidential election a contest between their know-nothing candidate, and the Governor of Alaska, who by the very nature of her job, has the executive experience that is sorely lacking by Obama.

As for foreign experience, my estimate is that Sarah Palin, and Barack Obama have about the same amount of experience. It was only a couple of months ago that the Obama campaign, in recognizing Obama’s non-existant foreign affairs background, decided to ship him off to Europe to do a “world tour” that amounted to nothing more than his normal campaign speech done in front of a foreign audience, teleprompter and all. How impressive! Not!

Barack may believe that his living in Indonesia some 30+ years ago makes him the better candidate when it comes to dealing with the world, but I’ll take Sarah Palin’s experiences in Alaskan state government concerning the global energy market over Obama’s attending a Muslim school and Catholic school in Indonesia as a mere child any day.

 
 
 

Comment by ritamary | 2008-09-25 01:52:22

Well, if no one but us kooks at NQ think Obama looks bad, then he should just tell Bush he is too busy preparing for the debate to come back to Washington. He’ll be back Saturday morning if he has nothing more important on his schedule.

After all, Obama was too busy running for president to hold any meetings of the Senate subcommittee he chaired, so being too busy is a perfectly good excuse.

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-25 01:58:41

Truly, how disgraceful is that? Obama pretends to be so concerned for our troops and ending the war but has not held one subcommittee meeting in 20 months even though he was chastised for not doing so back in the debate at the beginning of MARCH!!!

Too busy campaigning.

And none of his supporters seem to find fault with any of this.

Talk about not being able to multi-task! This is the man who not only voted present 130 times in the state legislature, but also hit the “wrong” button six times — you know what his excuse was? Well, I have to vote very fast. Sometimes I hit the wrong button.

I think he was the only one there to do so. So either he’s being disingenuous about his reasons for hitting the “wrong” button or he is telling us he is incapable of doing his job.

If he hasn’t been doing his job up until now — please explain to me why anyone wanting to elect this man has a scintilla of faith in the fact that he will actually do his job as President.

Chopping cedars in Texas, anyone?

 
 

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-25 02:12:30

Oh great!

More faulty polls from the Obama MSM.

 

Comment by Jaycephus | 2008-09-25 14:37:13

Oh, wait a sec… these are internet polls??? From MSNBO??

Please get a clue…

 
 

Comment by John Smith | 2008-09-25 00:39:29

I am not sure people realize how bad things are. What will happen tomorrow. Does anybody care about the presidential election right now.

Comment by Mr. Natural | 2008-09-25 01:24:49

Not really.

 
 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 00:40:05

Nanya nanya nanya. Please stop arguing with the trolls. It does no good. Talk amongst ourselves and pleas ignore them. Please don’t let every thread be dictated by their arguments. Have a bit of discipline. I don’t want to hear anymore about Obama or his talking points. I’m bored sick by them.

Comment by Creature of Chicago | 2008-09-25 07:51:32

I’ve scrolled past every post with the troll’s handle. I have to protect my brain from cell damage.

The commentary on this blog is spirited and informative until certain low-information individuals show up and stink up the place.

 

Comment by Alex | 2008-09-25 14:19:38

If trolls are ignored, they will only be talking to themselves. Skip their posts. What a waste of time for them. This is an ANTI OBAMA site.

 
 

Comment by Babs | 2008-09-25 00:41:03

Obama refused to debate Hillary again after his disasterous performance in Philly, and he also refused to appear with McCain in 10 townhall meetings that McCain had proposed months ago. Now in the midst of what he has labeled “the worst financial crisis our nation has faced since the Great Depression”, Obama decides that debating is more important than going to Washington to participate in the decisions that will decide the financial future of our nation for decades to come. Can you say seriously lacking the judgment required to be president of the most powerful nation on earth?I am so amazed that people do not see this man for the fraud that he is.

 

Comment by OBushMA! | 2008-09-25 00:44:58

I believe the final analysis of BO’s historical loss in November will say BO was ineffectual and his followers were obnoxious.

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 00:50:16

Obama is just a lightweight puppet. We know he’s as dirty as any of his Freddy/Fannie advisers. He’s a disgrace to the US Senate. And while we’re getting rid of the frauds, let’s send Barney Frank along with them. I do like Gingrich’s proposal that members of congress who took these big contributions should be under investigation. I don’t want to see Dodd, Kerry or Obama any where near the bail out. Any politician who took money from these institutions should pay it back into the bail out fund.

Comment by Snickers | 2008-09-25 02:15:46

AnnieCarmel, I agree with you. They should pay the money back to the bail out fund. And I also don’t want them crafting legislation on this.

 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 01:55:11

We don’t need to wait until November to know that Obama followers are obnoxious (or just plain noxious).

 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 00:46:54

Obama must be the most clueless presidential nominee in history. All he wants is to be president…the economy be damned, leadership be damned. he wants to be king of the sinking boat. lol

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 00:52:21

Well, benny, he has been studying all about foreign relations all week and needs to repeat it soon before he forgets.

 
 

Comment by John Smith | 2008-09-25 00:49:48

McCain made the country first move. You can call it what you want. The media will spin it which ever way it wants to spin it. Not like they are going to tell the truth for a change. How can anybody argue with the fact that the guy wants to do his job at a time like this. Now we know we live in a crazy time when people rather have a show then take care of a really big problem. Do they think that 100+ year firms failing on Wall Street is just an other political gimmick.

Comment by Newly Independent | 2008-09-25 02:48:27

Do they think that 100+ year firms failing on Wall Street is just an other political gimmick.

On some level, I think it is a political gimmick - to benefit Obama.

McCain has been whooping Obama’s ass in even the MSM’s faulty polls after selecting Sarah Palin as his VP. She stole Obama’s thunder. So I think that the MSM has been trying to steer the focus back on Obama by suddenly giving a damn about the troubled economy again. And it started to work again - until today.

See, the economy is Obama’s last big scare tactic left to try to intimidate undecided voters into voting for him. Especially confused Hillary supporters. With that, Obama’s crooks (ie: ACORN) are in a MAD dash throughout the country trying to illegally register as many people - living AND dead - to vote. Fear tactics, dead voters, the MSM - Obamabrats are pulling out all of the stops. They only have about 40 days left before Obama’s political demise. And they intend to go down swinging.

Comment by John Smith | 2008-09-25 04:07:28

That is why the democrats were dragging their feet. I also think that some republicans don’t want McCain to get elected. They were trying to drag this economical issue out for a few more weeks. In that process they could have dragged the entire country down the with them. McCain had no choice then to step in.

 
 
 

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 00:51:08

Hey, let’s all call our employers tomorrow and say, “call if you need me” and then we can check back at the end of the day to see who still has a job.

Who’s with me?!?!

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-25 01:14:38

 

Comment by JML | 2008-09-25 01:15:34

Would love to, especially because my boss is an Obama supporter!!!!

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 00:51:32

Actually, I liked suggestions earlier in the evening that the Obama was welcomed to his debate as he has no experience or substance to offer toward the upcoming financial agreement. Anyway, McCain could send Governor Palin to stand in and debate Obama. Now wouldn’t that be interesting?!

Or, should Governor Palin not be available, maybe Biden would enjoy a debate with Obama since they seem to be disagreeing on so many topics.

Comment by imustprotest | 2008-09-25 00:53:24

Ha! a Obama vs Biden debate, good one!

 
 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 00:54:31

Hey, I don’t care who Obama and Biden talk to just so long as it’s not me. I’ve had enough of these two shysters to last a lifetime.

 

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 00:57:27

Just as GWB, I almost feel sick whenever this guy appears on camera…much less opens his mouth to speak. He wants the US to fail. He puts out this dire comment and then wants to keep reading My Pet Goat. He’s dangerous and in no way a patriot.

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 00:59:35

compared to Obama, GWB is looking better and better. Obama just doesn’t care, thats all.

 
 

Comment by deepthought | 2008-09-25 01:02:24

BS–this is no 3 am moment–its been going on for months. It is urgent only because Bush says it is–like the war in Iraq was urgent. No vote is scheduled for Friday, so what’s the rush? In fact the best thing Congress can do is nothing and let the system correct itself.

This *suspension* is a stunt because McCain needs a breather. In the national polls Obama is 3-9 points ahead (even Fox News has Obama up 45-39), and McCain is losing his flailing against the NYT (attacking the messenger but not denying the story), and further, since McCain wants to eliminate the VP debate by rescheduling the Friday’s debate at that time (thereby protecting dear Sarah)–that’s the proof McCain’s *suspension* is a stunt.

What expertise does McCain have to offer? Here is a sample (from a Michigan press conference): “So it is essential for our economy to stimulate growth and grow this government. Excuse me, grow this, grow this economy, not grow the economy, uh, the government. We need to grow the economy.”

Huh?

McCain should debate on Friday. If he won’t, then send Sarah Palin. She has foreign policy experience (she can see Russia from Alaska) and has even met the Mayor of Kabul (I mean the President of Afghanistan.) So she’s qualified to substitute.

Comment by mel | 2008-09-25 01:22:45

First off, media polls are rubbish and not worth even repeating.

Second, what expertise does Obama offer, Rezko sitting in jail or his buddies who are the cause of the Fanny/Mac collapse?

Suspending the campaign was an offer made simply so that Obama and Biden could go to Washington and do their jobs they are paid as Senators for by the taxpayer, thus not taking advanatge of Palin being able to campaign, remove ads to show bi-partisan working at the moment and get the comfort in the system back. But that is over the head of a troll such as yourself spewing Axelrod crap over the net!

As for it being a 3AM moment, if not delt with, where will you live when your mommy and daddy lose their house and what about you, where will Obama send your check to, general delivery Palistine?

 

Comment by Freedom to Vote | 2008-09-25 01:40:20

BO is bullshit. If mccain offers nothing, Bo offers shit on the table. He has no qualifications, no track record, no experience and flips and flops always. And u dumb fools vote him in just because he mouths change. What an ass.

 

Comment by IndieDogg | 2008-09-25 01:42:06

For “deepthought” (I hope that name is tongue in cheek — you’ve got to be kidding).

Just curious. Your candidate, the anointed one, has done what exactly in his life of public service? If he’s the master of the economy from his years of doing…. what again? shouldn’t he rush back to Washington to bestow his economic expertise on those struggling to find an answer to this crisis?

BTW, if you want to start the battle of bungling video clips, you are going to need a lot of ammo. Your candidate has elevated the mumble and the gaffe to a new art form.

Try asking him how many states there are in the US, or the year of the Selma march, or who was president when his father came to America, or where Kentucky is, or what language is spoken in Afghanistan (which he might know if he’d ever held a meeting of his subcommittee), or how his uncle got into the Soviet army to liberate Auschwitz, or… I mean, this could take all night.

But, I get that he’s loaded with foreign policy “experience” (your word, not mine). I mean, being born in Hawaii is right up there with…. again, what? I say that a lot about your shining knight. What? Has he ever done? And not what he claims as his own from bills he had nothing to do with, but something that can actually be verified, and that recommends him as leader of the free world.

But, hey, it’s not going to matter, soon, according to your “deepthought” analysis, so it seems. I’m assuming, since you’re calling out the Senator and the Governor to debate, that you fully expect your guys to wipe the floor with them, once and for all. Show us all who’s who and what’s what.

Then you have nothing to worry about. And, you sure don’t need to be here because the election’s a lock. I mean The One is so far ahead in the polls today, it’s over, right? And, really, who in their right mind could think that John McCain, or Governor Palin, can hold a candle to the freshman Senator or to Joe 2% Biden.

Might as well light up that cigar and enjoy watching them both give up and cry “uncle” at their debates. It should be quite a laugh.

 
 

Comment by ObamaIsToast | 2008-09-25 01:02:55

Can’t I just eat my waffle?

Love it.

 

Comment by NoObamislamists | 2008-09-25 01:08:37

It’s 3am…..

The phone rings…..

Obamcus rips the chord out of the wall and goes back to sleep….

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 01:12:13

 

Comment by TheTeleprompter | 2008-09-25 01:55:13

Or BO grabs the chord, and 300 advisor’s yank his arm.

 
 

Comment by Babs | 2008-09-25 01:10:35

In the beginning of this campaign for the GE, I thought I would have to hold my nose to vote for McCain, but I knew I would never cast a vote for the lying, arrogant, opportunistic, race-baiting Obama. As more and more time has elapsed, and I see the disgusting way Obama continues to run his campaign, I no longer will have to hold my nose. In fact, because of what I have now learned of the corrupt democratic Congress and their opposition to financial reform and oversight when proposed by the Republicans in the past 2 years, I will now be voting straight Republican all the way down ticket. I used to be so proud to be a Democratic woman, now I can’t even remember why.

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 01:24:34

I’m with you. I just don’t know how I could have gone along. Bush has had us polarized but this is the worst I’ve ever experienced. It is definitely separating the wheat from the chaff though. I have some former (now) friends who parrot back his crap and I can’t stand to hear it.

We went to see a Czech film tonight “I Served the King of England.” It’s story is set in the era before, during and right after WWII in Eastern Europe and the rise of Hitler. The Germans were portrayed so well. We know they were so mesmerized by Adolph that they were beyond reason…just like the Obama people. The cult like adoration is sickeningly obnoxious.

I know McCain is a human being and fallible but he loves America and I don’t think he’d ever do anything to bring about the downfall of our economy.

 
 

Comment by JML | 2008-09-25 01:13:29

Um, you did sort of take Obama’s quote out of context by only partially quoting him. Just sayin’.

I’m kind of disappointed in that, because I love No Quarter for the truths exposed here.

Here is the transcript from the article at Real Clear Politics:

QUESTION: Did he [McCain] also say to you that he was not going to participate in the debate?

OBAMA: Well, he — you know, he mentioned that he was intending, potentially — he was going to fly to Washington, and that he thought that perhaps we should suspend the debates.

I thought this was something that was — that he was mulling over. Apparently, this was something that, you know, he was more decisive about in his own mind.

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 01:17:15

Actually I was trying to be polite and skip past the uhs and ahs to get to the substance of his comment.

It’s painful enough trying to quote Bush, do we have to continue the same with Obama?!

Comment by JML | 2008-09-25 01:19:45

LOL, well, I’d argue that most of time Obama’s comments have no substance! But I see your point.

I just want to make sure that we can’t be accused of making stuff up or skewing things or omitting because then No Quarter’d be as bad as the MSM. :(

 

Comment by Jess_Terr | 2008-09-25 10:28:08

Incredibly, W sounds like a literary genius compared to uh uh uh what nobama uh uh ah uh tries painfully uh uh uh to uh say.

Who’d've thunk?

 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 01:59:39

“Decisive” is a quality that is completely foreign to Obama.

 
 

Comment by Matthew Weaver | 2008-09-25 01:23:19

If you haven’t seen Dick Morris on O’Reilly tonight, he’s actually worth listen to. Okay, barely so. Anyway, he offered a good analysis on what’s going on and the challenges and opportunities facing McCain and Obama.

 

Comment by Smilin' Jim | 2008-09-25 01:27:01

The Bush hijacked the 9/11 disaster and gave us the Iraq War.

Fast forward two years to

The Bush hijacked the Wall Street disaster and gave us ……………..

Oh wise man, riddle me this: Oh what brave new world doth the master craftsman of Katrina now fashion?

History repeats itself first as tragedy, second as farce.

 

Comment by Mike | 2008-09-25 01:28:22

Bambi is running……..

 

Comment by Im Hopen | 2008-09-25 01:42:46

 

Comment by samb | 2008-09-25 01:46:05

The moment the President announced that McCain and Obama were asked to go to Washington I had a smile on my face because McCain beat Obama to the punch and Bush trumped Obama. To Perfect.

 

Comment by Alien | 2008-09-25 01:46:51

There is no debate out here in the world (We are the foreign affairs debate you have been waiting for!)

We will be seriously pissed off at ALL Americans if you bring us down with your greed , your politicking.

Get your shit together. How can you fail Capitalism 101 - You invented it.

Comment by Ivory Bill Woodpecker | 2008-09-25 02:14:45

I never travel. Why would I care what you think of me?

 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 01:50:07

I’m sure that BO is PO’d. For sure it’s hard to look presidential when the sitting president tells you to get your butt to Washington to do the job you were elected to do!! Priceless.

 

Comment by HILLARY 2012 | 2008-09-25 01:55:26

Old Media Pushes False ‘Rape Kit’ Charge Against Gov. Palin

By Warner Todd Huston

September 24, 2008

At least since September 8 the extreme left has been pushing a lie that Governor, then Mayor, Sarah Palin “charged rape victims for rape kits” performed upon them in the Alaskan town of Wasilla. The charge stems from a May 22, 2000 article in the local Wasilla paper The Frontiersman and has been spun from a comment made by the Wasilla Police Chief. This comment was somehow made into a Sarah Palin policy.

Evidence of the incident, though, shows no involvement by Palin at all.

Still, many Old Media outlets continue to keep illegitimately linking this rape kit billing claim to Sarah Palin, even though the truth is easily discovered.

As mentioned first up was The Frontiersman story from 2000. In that story Police Chief Fannon was quoted as standing against legislation that would force local municipalities to pick up the costs of rape kits being performed. In the interview Fannon said that, upon conviction, he favored the criminals being charged for the costs.

The story mentions that Fannon claimed that at the time Wasilla did have a policy that rape victims’ insurance would be charged for the kits being performed but there was no mention that victims themselves were charged and no claim that any ever were. It should be pointed out that The Frontiersman is the local Wasilla paper, so, consequently, the story did not mention what the policy was in any other Alaskan city outside the area the paper covers other than to say that “most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams.” This last phrase has been focused on by Palin’s detractors and spun from “some municipalities” into “all” (except Wasilla) and presented as some sort of proof that she hates rape victims.

After Palin was picked to be VP, on September 8, a blog called Americablog found the old story and brought it up as evidence of “a rather nasty window into Sarah Palin.” Americablog is run by a man named John Aravosis, a Democratic strategist, sometimes gay activist, and Washington D.C. lawyer who once worked for Alaska Senator Ted Steven before he, Aravosis, formally switching to the Democratic Party.

Later that day The Daily Kos also picked it up and from here it began to morph even further adding false claims to the story. In one of those additions to the story, Kos blogger Steven R claimed that Palin hired Police Chief Fannon because he was in favor of charging rape victims for rape kits. Steven R said he was “Pro-Charging Rape Victims for their OWN TESTS!!!” (bold in original). I cannot find this claim anywhere prior to the meme being picked up by the Old Media echoing this Kos diarist.

According to the Uniform Crime Reports for Wasilla, up until 2000 only one rape had been reported to police in Wasilla. The Kos diarist tried to claim that one rape reported equalled one rape conviction alleging that all the “other” rapes were not convicted. But the report clearly says that it was one rape reported not one rape convicted. The Daily Kos Diarist was trying to make it seem as if there were all sorts of rapes going on that weren’t being reported and, presumably, all sorts of victims being charged for rape kits.

In any case, from here the Old Media began to pick up the charge that Palin had put in place or at least agreed with this charging of victims policy. On September 12, for instance, The L.A. Times repeated the charge.

When Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the city billed sexual assault victims and their insurance companies for the cost of rape kits and forensic examinations.

The L.A. Times also helped further the warped claim that made it seem that the only Alaskan town that charged victims for rape kits was Palin’s Wasilla.

Then-Gov. Tony Knowles said Thursday that Wasilla was unique in the state in charging rape victims for costs incurred by law enforcement in trying to solve the crime.

This charge then began to appear in all sorts of opinion columns, blogs and in the comments sections of many of the Palin stories in papers all across the country.

On September 21, the Chicago Tribune repeated the tale, as well. The Chi Trib tried to spin this tale into one that made Palin notorious in the Alaska State Legislature over the practice.

While she was mayor of Wasilla, her town was the only one in Alaska that required rape victims to pay for their own forensic tests. Charging victims for the “rape kits” necessary to collect evidence and convict sexual predators was a “cost-cutting” measure that continued until complaints about her administration’s policy prompted the Alaska State Legislature to pass a bill that banned this anti-victim practice statewide.

On September 22, it was CNN’s turn to highlight the charge. CNN also pushed the false idea that out of all of Alaska’s towns only Wasilla insisted on perpetrating this policy quoting former Democratic State Rep. Eric Croft to that effect.

Former state Rep. Eric Croft, a Democrat, sponsored a state law requiring cities to provide the examinations free of charge to victims. He said the only ongoing resistance he met was from Wasilla, where Palin was mayor from 1996 to 2002.

Farther down in the story, CNN does reveal that there are no records and no proof that Palin ever even knew about this charging the victim policy. CNN also finally mentions that Wasilla wasn’t the only town in Alaska that had this policy.

Many other papers also mention that Palin charged victims for their own rape kits. Papers such as Denver Daily and Philadelphia Weekly, for instance. There are far more than the few I mention here.

So, the impression all these stories leave us with is that the town of Wasilla was a major impediment to passage of a bill in the state legislature that would end the policy of charging rape victims for their own rape kits being administered. We are told that “Palin charged rape victims” and we are told that she hired a new police chief because he also wanted to charge victims. One would think that if all this were true, Palin would have been all over Alaska’s news in the year 2000 because of it. But, in reality, none of these charges can be found and Jim Geraghty of NRO has done a little investigative work to prove it.

Geraghty looked to see how often Wasilla and Palin were mentioned in the debates about the rape kit bill. But he finds that there is not one mention of the town of Wasilla in the hearings over the bill. Far from being the mayor that had “complaints about her administration’s policy” (as the Chi Trib says) being the one forcing the state legislature to pass the law, Wasilla is not mentioned at all in the debates about the bill.

The Democratic sponsor of the legislation, Eric Croft, told USA Today recently that “the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor.” Yet in six committee meetings, Wasilla was never mentioned, even when the discussion turned to the specific topic of where victims were being charged.

Geraghty also could not find a single instance of a rape victim ever having been charged for her own rape kit.

To clarify: In preparation to attend a hearing and support the bill, one of the state’s top law-enforcement officials found no case of a rape victim ever being charged. And roughly a month after 30 Democratic lawyers, investigators, and opposition researchers, not to mention reporters from every major news agency in the country, landed in Alaska, we still have no instances to consider.

Additionally, Geraghty found that it was the hospitals in Alaska, not the police agencies, that were passing the bills on to the victims’ insurance companies. And the idea that only Wasilla had such a policy is blasted out of the water by Geraghty who notes that Juneau also had the same policy of charging rape victims for their rape kits.

In fact, at a Finance Committee hearing, Representative Gail Phillips (R., Homer) “read for the record, a statement from a woman in Juneau who had experienced the charges as indicated.” Compare Juneau (population 30,711 in 2000) to Wasilla (population 5,469).

On top of all of that, there are no stories prior to Sarah Palin being offered the billet as VP by John McCain that makes the claim that Palin was informed of or involved in this policy of charging rape victims for rape kits. And, since there was only one rape reported in the city between 1996 and 2000 when the story first came to the papers, it’s no wonder she wasn’t aware of the policy.

When would it ever have come up? Does anyone think that any given mayor of any American town is fully cognizant of every single policy or law in their city, especially if it is a law not in use because of a lack of situations to bring it to light?

For her part, Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella has said that the governor “does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test.”

In the end, it seems that this story is a wild exaggeration about Palin’s role in this policy. There is no proof that she ever knew about the policy until long after the situation hit the news, it is untrue that her town was “unique” in blocking the measure, no evidence that she, herself, was notorious for the policy, and no proof that any victims were ever charged for rape kits. In fact, according to the Uniform Crime Report there were only 5 rapes reported in the 6 years she was mayor of Wasilla and four of those happened after the state law in question was passed.

In fact, this whole thing looks like another case where the media has been programmed by the nutroots and Democratic operatives.

Yet, the media still repeatedly bring this false charge up at every possible opportunity. Geraghty is right. The Old Media and the Obama campaign owes Palin an apology.

From NewsBusters

Comment by AnnieCarmel | 2008-09-25 03:07:45

Thanks for this. It’ll come in handy next time one of my former friends tries to pull “Program Obama” on me again. I’m finding I have little respect for the cultists…including (shock) some I used to think were friends. Not anymore unless they’re deprogrammed.

 
 

Comment by Colby | 2008-09-25 02:03:16

So, out of curiosity, how many times are you going to pimp this intentionally deceptive quote-mine before you move on to to other lies?

And an aside- I notice that you give McCain a hat tip, which, you know, whatever- par for the course ’round these parts. And Obama gets a great big pouty face directed in his general direction- again, no big surprise.

But this big nod at Bush? I mean of all people- Bush? The guy who inspired the one, the only, truly bipartisan, panic-driven drive by every remotely viable candidate since last year to distance themselves from the current occupant of Pennsylvania Ave? Really?

Or are you finally admitting that this entire “we support hill” thing was never more than a contrivance to sow dissent amongst those you cynically considered politically naive? Are you now, at long last, willing to admit that,at its source, this entire endeavor had no more legitimacy or validity than the the swift-boaters did?

Again,just curious. And again, I expect to be censored.

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 02:17:51

Obviously there is no room for dissent within the Democratic Party.

If you don’t toe the party line….you’re a Republican.

Don’t you think it’s best to can the binary thinking, oh “nuanced” one?

 
 

Comment by samb | 2008-09-25 02:10:58

http://www.politico.com/gameday/

CHECK OUT HOW LATINO’S FEEL ABOUT OBAMA IN CHICAGO

VIDEO IS TOWARDS THE CENTER OF PAGE

 

Comment by Tristan | 2008-09-25 03:06:17

Anybody who is against this “bailout” doesn’t understand finance - which is fine, but don’t be against something you don’t understand. The US government is going to use the money to acquire mortgage-backed securities at pennies on the dollar.

Banks will still take a lot of losses because they’re selling something for 40 cents that they bought for a dollar. But the true value of the security is probably more like 50-60 cents, if the security is held for maturity - i.e. until the borrower pays off the mortgage, refinances, or sells the house. The government has both a low cost of borrowing and patience. And by the way , it already makes mortgages - FHA mortgages, and that program’s actually doing pretty good.

The alternative is that banks go out of business. Generally, every $1 of ban equity creates about $10 of loans, and that works in reverse - if a bank loses a billion dollars that means it can’t make ten billion dollars worth of loans. No loans means anything you can’t buy with cash is unavailable, even if you can show you have plenty of income to repay the loan.

It really hurts businesses, because often without the right loan they can’t expand. Imagine if a business can save $1m a year by putting in a $2m computer system - an obviously good inevstment with a two year payback period. But without a loan, it probably wouldn’t happen, or it would happen at the expense of other opportunities.

Now don’t get me wrong, there are some good modifications to the bailout that people have proposed. One is to make it easier for people to refinance into a government loan. if you have some ARM that’s climbed to 10% and you’re facing foreclosure, but you could stay in your house if the government can refinance you to a 5.5% interest only then sure. I think that’s what Barney Frank’s modification is.

But my guess is that people who are against the bailout completely think it’s just a big check to Wall Street. Trust me, as someone who works in finance, it’s the worst time for the industry since 9/11.

 

Comment by Senex, Ireland | 2008-09-25 04:51:10

As a non-voter, with an independent view, I feel that
Senator McCain is showing leadership and putting his country first. It is unfair and incorrect to lay all the blame for today’s problems at the feet of John McCain.
He has not been President and whilst he has raised questions as to the way events were unfolding, he was at times a sole voice and did not have Presidential powers or influence to make necessary changes. Given the opportunity Senator McCain could be a successful President and certainly better than Obama , who can only steal other peoples’ideas ,from Hillary Clinton,
and try to claim them as his own.
The present debacle can be attributed to both parties
Republicans and Democrats who have failed miserably
during the last two years when they had control in
the house, and further exacerbated with possible
fraud about to be determined by the FBI at this time.
An interesting time to see if Senator Obama can put his country first above his own arrogance and stop
the campaigning for his own person power greedy
ambition.
Good fortune, Senex Ireland

Comment by Creature of Chicago | 2008-09-25 08:04:29

An interesting time to see if Senator Obama can put his country first above his own arrogance and stop
the campaigning for his own person power greedy
ambition.

Not much HOPE for him to CHANGE in that regard.

 
 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-09-25 04:58:28

Let’s play “if” for a moment; If you had an employee who was acting like O is now, wouldn’t you have fired him/her. Yes you would have.

Now, understand, he is our employee; or the citizens of Illinois,that is. HE doesn’t work for himself (although he has convinced himself he is, after campaigning longer than actually serving in the Senate).

Every politician is an employee of the American people, we need some pick slips to shake up this mess, we need to see our interests represented correctly and honestly, the only way to do this is to get rid of the employees who are interested only in serving themselves, keep the ones who understand and can correctly act in honest representation of the American people. We are the boss in this situation.

 

Comment by Sue | 2008-09-25 05:12:08

John McCain is doing the right thing. He is showing leadership and although it may be partially political, I don’t think that’s the whole reason he’s going back to Washington. I truly think the man really cares about his country.

Obama on the other hand, couldn’t care less. He has shown it in the way he runs his campaign and in the way he reacts to a crisis. That he is a candidate for president shocks me every day. That he actually has a chance of winning, makes me sick to my stomach.

 

Comment by McKatmoon | 2008-09-25 05:18:30

There are politics here, yes, but two different kinds, there are campaign politics and then there are the politics of working with your party to get them to work in a bipartisan way in order to get work done that serves the people. There is a presidential campaign going on, so yes the politics of that comes into play with the politics of Senatorial work. McCain put the campaign politics aside, while calling Obama on it. Obama is stuck on the campaign politics, and clearly has no idea how to work in a bi-partisan fashion to function in the politics as a sitting senator. Why, because all of his experience has been manufactured under other senators names; giving him credit where none is due.
No, a pretty speech will not fix this one.

 

Comment by Soldier of Christ | 2008-09-25 09:04:58

Hey….what happen to that great cartoonist that use to draw here? Draw one showing Obama being pull by his feet to the meeting.

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 09:19:32

Or maybe showing bush dragging Obama by his ear.

 
 

Comment by Amy Crunch | 2008-09-25 09:55:42

I initiated the call

There’s the key. McCain doesn’t take Obama seriously. Remember this?

I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006 which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.

 

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