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Report: Democrats Need Gains Among All The People They Insulted

I vividly remember when Paul Begala Davis told smug Donna Brazile on CNN: You can’t win an election with African Americans and Eggheads. She snorted. That was not long after Donna said we could all just “Stay Home” because she has a New Party.

Don’t believe me. Take a look at this sarcastic woman talk about her New Party. And who “Split us into groups” again?

Here’s Donna telling us all about her “New Party”. Check out her snide face and hear her snide voice. Good luck with that Donna. Paul Begala also warns arrogant Donna that she is going to need all the people she is insulting to win this election. Nobody can deny it. We were told to go to hell. Well we don’t plan on doing that, instead we plan to vote.

So now there’s a recent study discussing the very warning given to arrogant ass Donna Brazile, the one who was going to”Change the Demographics of her “New” Democratic Party. Now she needs us. We’ll be back when people like Donna are no longer in charge, for starters. We are going to take back our party. Again. This is not the first time elite socialist fringe snobs tried to hijack our party. It seems the one thing our party learns from history is how to repeat their mistakes over and over and over again.

The majority of this party is not interested in busting their butts at work and then “sharing” their gains with people who don’t. The majority of this party is not interested in sexism and misogyny. The majority of this party does not belong to MoveOn. The majority of this party is not interested in allowing dependent children, off-the-cliff radicals, old hippies stilll on the bong, left over cranks from the failed AmeriKKKan Socialist, Communist, Marxist and Stalinist parties pick presidents.

And the majority of the Democratic Party will NOT be staying home on November 4, Donna. Get that idea out of your head.

A study surprise! reveals that Barack Obama needs us now. Of course, the Race Card has to be played with respect to the “White Vote”. Once more, my party wants to ignore the impact of PUMA at their own peril. So be it.

But it’s pretty safe to say that playing the Race Card every five minutes hasn’t exactly endeared white people to the Obama candidacy. Threatening people and calling them racist has backfired. Refusing to recognize that there are plenty of reasons why people will never vote for Barack Obama that have little to do with his color. Like sexest piggism and socialism, for starters. His rude, threatening and savage followers would be right up there on the list too. People don’t like to feel threatened. And people don’t like to have real issues ignored and twisted into a “Race Card” discussion. It not only ticks them off, but it’s been done and overdone so much by Obama and his surrogates, that the effect is now just a lot of Eye Rolling when it’s heard again. And again. And again.

There are plenty of reasons why many Democrats aren’t interested in Barack Obama. The report mentions the “White working class”. Those are those Bitter Hicks With Guns. Does anybody really expect them to forgive Barack Obama for his tasteless, snobby, downright ignorant remark about them at a fundraiser at Billionaire’s Row in San Francisco? Really?

Does anyone really expect all Hillary Clinton supporters to forgive Barack Obama for his attempt to destroy her and his coordinated attacks on her because she is a woman? Really? Really? How arrogant can you get?

Does anyone really expect all Jews in America to rush to the polls for Obama when every Jidadist in the Middle East has endorsed him? Really?

Does anyone really expect all of us well-educated Hillary supporters to forget being constantly referred to as “Downscale” and “Low Information”? Really?

Does anyone really expect women to give him their undying support after his disgusting behaviors toward women in this campaign? Really? Really?

Does anyone really expect everyone in America to forget Reverend Wright’s disgusting remarks? Does anyone really expect every Italian-American to vote for a guy whose 20-year pastor calls them Garlic-Noses? Really? Really?

Does anyone really expect that Seniors, who have lived long enough to recognize BS when they see it, are endeared en masse by Barack Obama, whose followers have consistently insulted them as “old people”?

Has anyone heard Barack Obama say one helpful thing to Native Americans?

Does anyone really expect all Latinos in Florida to worship a man who wants to talk to Castro with no pre-conditions? Really?

Does anyone really expect all gays and lesbians to be in love with Barack Obama when he refused to have his photo taken with the Mayor of San Francisco? Really?

If all of these people happen to be white, then the real thing the report reveals is that Barack Obama, his surrogates and his followers have insulted plenty of white people in this election season. In droves. The Democrats might like to continue the “Race Card” with their studies, but the truth is, their loss among Democrats consist of the people they insulted and decided they didn’t need any longer. And that’s not going to go away.

Here’s Politico’s take on the report:

In an election year where Barack Obama pledged to change the electorate, the centrist Democratic Leadership Council has weighed into the debate with a detailed report arguing it will be difficult for Obama to earn enough African American and youth support to compensate for enduring Democratic failures with white voters.

The report, titled “Who are the swing voters,” finds that the party must make historic inroads with working class whites in order to create a sustainable presidential majority.

It’s hardly news that the Democratic Party has struggled with white voters. Democrats have not won a majority of whites since 1964. Since 1980 though, Democrats have struggled to even remain competitive among whites, particularly men, and that has allowed Republicans to dominate the last quarter century of presidential politics.

The DLC set out in its analysis, an early draft of which was provided to Politico, to investigate the most influential swing blocs for Democrats. It concluded that slight but significant gains with working class whites— who constitute four in ten voters and were defined by the DLC as white high school graduates without a four-year college degree—is the best means to enlarge the Democratic coalition.

“There has been so much emphasis on new entrants in the electorate, and this report is historic and not predictive, but history tells us it would be an unusual circumstance if we witnessed a massive shift in the electorate,” the DLC analysis reads.

The report calculates that a 10 percent increase in black voter turnout amounts to a 1-percentage point uptick in the overall electorate, assuming all other groups remain constant.

That means that if the black voting rate rises from 60 percent to 67.2, the level of whites as measured by the Census Bureau, it amounts to 1.7 million votes— less than George W. Bush’s margin of victory in 2004.

“None of this means that the 2008 election could not be decided because of a radical shift in the electorate—by a dramatically increased turnout among critical constituencies or by a sharp shift in party identification, for example,” the report reads, “But historical voting patterns say that would be an unusual occurrence.”

The DLC study looked at the exit polls of the last five presidential elections as well as the 2006 midterm election.

The report, authored by Al From and Victoria Lynch, described black voters, self-identified liberals, and “strongly pro-choice” voters as the most influential legs of the Democratic coalition.

The DLC calculated that about four in ten voters in presidential elections are part of this Democratic base. John Kerry won 80 percent of these voters, meaning Democrats only amounted to about a third of the electorate. That number will likely be higher in 2008 as Democrats enjoy a newfound party identification advantage, though one that multiple polls show lessened in late summer.

The report strongly suggests, however, that it will be difficult for the Obama campaign to win if he does not improve Democrats’ appeal to the white working class.

The report also paints two blocs of working class whites:

“A typical male voter in that category will likely be between 30 and 59 years old, live in a suburb or small town in the South or Midwest, and be married with no children living at home. He’s likely to be a Republican or independent, moderate or conservative, not a member of a labor union, pro-life, and in favor smaller government. Finally, he’s most likely to be Protestant but not a weekly churchgoer.”

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Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 22:38:05

I won’t ever go back if they are funding places like ACORN with my tax dollars…Donna can have her AA and eggheads.

Comment by SJ | 2008-09-25 23:06:23

I hope someone does some kind of investigation into this ACORN deal with this bail out for people to learn about it, for god sakes this country needs to wake up and see what is going on.

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-25 23:28:17

The ACORN part of it was the main reason the House Republicans said “NO!” I plan to call my R rep in the morning and tell him to hang tough, and call the other guy (a D) and tell him I will campaign to defeat him with all my strength if he votes for it. Fresno is pretty conservative and we need a new representative anyway.

This stinks!

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-25 23:57:38

I will email all of my representatives tonight. I hope everyone does.

 

Comment by Snickers | 2008-09-26 01:43:28

I just emailed all my reps. I also don’t want credit card debt, car loans, and student loans to be bundled in with this bail out. Then I also mentioned that I thought Chris Dodd had a conflict of interest - receiving the most money from both mortgage giants and his four suspect Countrywide loans, and he should not be part of the negotiations. I also said that Dodd and Obama should return their donations they received from the Mae/Mac to be part of the bail out package. (I read that idea at NQ last night and agreed with it). I think Dodd should resign.

 
 
 

Comment by M. Simon | 2008-09-25 23:49:52

The end of Free Speech In Missouri:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/09/end-of-free-speech-in-missouri.html

Elected officials are going after people who make “false statements” about Obama.

It is the whole Democrat Party folks. If any of them survives this election America will deserve what it gets.

Rotten to the core.

And you know: as a Republican I firmly believe we need two viable parties to keep both semi honest.

A different part needs to be built on the ashes of the Democrat Party.

PUMA all the way!!!!!!!!11ty!!!!!!!!

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-26 00:02:34

I get scorned by the trolls and even sometimes by PUMAs for comparing the present situation to Nazi Germany. But the shoe fits so until I am hauled off by the Oborg’s thought police I will keep making the comparison.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-26 03:14:25

correct; i have had it up to f-ing here with the NAZI censorship and other brownshirt thug tactics being employed by the obamacrats. and thanks to larry for running a website the has the courage and moral fortitude to allow all sides to voice their opinions. censorship says one thing and one thing only: WEAKNESS.

 

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 00:57:56

There ARE fascist elements which have taken over this country since GWB. These same fascist elements have found a new puppet in Obama. Fascism is an authoritarian ideology which is anti-democratic (small “d”) to the core. It can occur on the Right (e.g. Hitler) and on the Left (e.g. Stalin). (See Naomi Wolf’s lecture The END OF AMERICA on YouTube and see Tarpley’s book OBAMA: THE POSTMODERN COUP.)

Obama = Bush

 
 

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 00:18:29

M. Simon — this is exactly what’s going on in Canada right now — they call it The Tyranny of Nice. People are being sued for saying anything against liberals.

Comment by Perry Logan | 2008-09-26 05:45:06

It sounds like some liberals have decided to give Republicans a taste of their own medicine. Republicans should be very afraid right now.

 
 

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 00:37:54

I wish the Repubs in 2000 and 2004 had fought tooth and nail (like us PUMAs) against Bush and the neo-con fascists. Once you let these unsavory elements take over they are hard to get rid of. In this election, we have the flip side of the neo-con fascists—Obama.

 
 

Comment by Carolyn Mann | 2008-09-26 00:00:28

What? What have I missed? What’s with the ACORN business?

Comment by Irish1139 | 2008-09-26 00:28:30

Some of the money in the bail out is suppose to be given to ACORN.

Comment by Carolyn Mann | 2008-09-26 00:55:51

I’m stunned. I don’t know why, considering everything that happened during the primaries. But I am stunned. Now the party has become so corrupt it’s stooping to public financed voter fraud. Uneffing believable.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2008-09-26 03:36:48

publicly financed voter fraud - insane, isn’t it? is this america or the soviet union? looks like obama has more in common with the commies than we thought.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-09-26 01:42:17

They MUST not fund ACORN! This is what made half of this mess! They brought down fannie and freddie withit! Somebody has to stop these theives. I was working on a piece I didn’t publish yet. You can’t even imagine what they did here.

 
 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-25 22:40:58

Sounds like Donna is a racist. But, hey, so what! She can get by with it since she’s Black, but if a White said that - watch out! Why would ANY white want to be associated with the Democratic Party after a DIVISIVE, racist remark like that!

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:10:05

Oh - Kgirl shouldn’t like your comments, but she dont care cuz even if someone ax her about Donna now, your enemy is her enemy, or so she told me today!

Lmao!

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 00:12:01

Sorry Phil, we don’t speak gibberish here. Try English, that always works.

 

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-09-26 00:52:54

God Phil If you want date ask for one. YOu don’t have to punch me or pull my hair. Were grown ups. What you always wanted to be with a black woman? Is that why you mention my name even when i haven’t posted. If Bill can carry a torch for Ann, I can get past the Koolaid, I understand Michelle’s special blend with ginger ale, pineapple juice and sherbert is irresistable. It has that extra something Laura’s just doesn’t have. Email me sometime big boy. We can have good time, just don’t touch my McCain/Palin 08 sticker and we can indulge in all your blacksploitaton fantasies. Ill bring my afro wig.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 00:56:55

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

 
 
 

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2008-09-26 01:01:40

Well she doesn’t have the ability to oppress so she can’t be racist. But she can be a big fat bigot. Phil on the other hand, since he’s white he can be racist. however I have to say threating to riot if obama doesn’t win, could be seen as being racist, because that means they are using fear and intimidation to force non whites to vote for obama. Unfortuanately they forget republicans and blue collar whites cling to guns and religion.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 01:05:07

I’m never afraid of them, after all they just burn & destroy their own neighborhoods.

 
 
 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-25 22:44:13

Donna Brazille is a DISGRACE! Michael Steele, Ford, Dr. Keyes WHERE ARE YOU???

 

Comment by John | 2008-09-25 22:44:43

Screw the Dems. This white boy is out.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:15:28

Same here..
This bitter Irish,Italian,Catholic is probably never voting for another democrat again.
Even Bill Clinton is for McCain!

The New democrats are thugs!

 
 

Comment by WestPalm2008 | 2008-09-25 22:44:57

I’ll post this again, because I have found success thwarting the “racist” argument from Democrat friends by responding two questions about whom I’m voting for (and why I’m not voting for Obama) in one of two ways:

1. Tell people I can’t stand Obama because he’s a narcissistic, unexperienced, racial thug…. and then tell them I’m going to vote for Cynthia McKinney….

or

2. Tell people that I can’t stand Obama and the ONLY redeeming quality I find about him is THAT he is black.

So far so good!

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 22:55:52

So if he’s not black, he’d have no redeeming qualities? Nice to know how you feel about Latinos, Asians, Native Americans, Caucasians, etc…

Comment by TOMMYO77 | 2008-09-25 23:08:04

your comment is one of the dumbest I have ever read. The point is the only redeeming quality that Nobama has is his race. That has nothing to do with the others. You just failed reading comprehension. I am guessing you are a Nobama supporter.

 

Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-25 23:13:19

He never said that. Liking one race does not imply hating all others. That’s some crooked logic you’re using there.

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-25 23:27:16

Just ask the Rev. Wright about that!

 
 

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:13:33

Right on - this group here is as racist as they come. This guy WestPalm2008 is an operative.

They must be hurting tonight. McCain goes to Washngton and causes a clusterf.ck - which he is very good in creating with his downed planes over the years, and now more and more businesses will fail as McCain (Nero) fiddles.

Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-25 23:22:05

The trolls are in full panic mode. Obama’s polls are tanking and they automatically resort to the race card. It’s OLD! Give it up already. You’re the only ones who talk about race.

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-26 00:02:39

Ask kgirl about that one - shes a raging!

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 01:15:53

Phil, your a moron. Just plain and simple. Your intellect is really embarrassing for you and you don’t know it. Let me give you some facts (not that Obots care about facts.) “Dingy” Harry Reid said last week “No one knows what to do.” and the Dem plan was: llinois Senator Dick Durbin said in a speech on the Senate floor that President George W. Bush isn’t in a position to propose regulatory overhaul legislation because he is close to leaving office “and the Congress is not in a position to pass it.”

Congress is planning to adjourn Sept. 26 and other Democratic leaders have said they hope to avoid a post-election session.

Reid said that Paulson “recognizes that nothing is going to be done this year.”

“It is a multitrillion dollar issue that’s facing America and we can’t do it on some timeline that is unrealistic.”

So the Dems plan was to skip town while “rome burned” McCain steps in at the request of Secretary Paulson and guess what now they are sticking around to try and get something done.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Medusa | 2008-09-25 23:18:35

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 22:28:03

Senator Obama is a gift from God, there is no need to look at his resume.

YOU LOST ALL CREDIBILITY WITH THIS COMMENT FF.

 
 

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 00:39:50

Or you could argue that you are only half a racist, since Obama is half black.

 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 22:46:37

This is a great post Uppity, you always tell it like it REALLY is, thanks ;)

Comment by Ani | 2008-09-25 23:25:06

Amen, Uppity. Very well said, as usual.

I too have received correspondence fromn Ms. Brazile and her bias is clear. She hatched this plot to get Obama the nod well before her article in Slate on November 5, 2004 - The Obama Factor.

Let’s get back in touch with Donna on November 5th, 2008 and ask her how that worked out.

I do not like being disrespected or told to ‘get lost’ by a party I have been supporting with my time, money and shoe leather for 30 years.

 
 

Comment by deb | 2008-09-25 22:46:48

This has been going on all year, like the spanish ad slapping McCain saying he/they say one thing and do another. No Hastings down in Florida telling us what ever problem we had with barack, get over it; because palin doesn’t like jews or blacks. What happen to civil discord and decency?

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 00:26:28

deb — desperation took the place of civility. They are terrified. They gave Obama the party and now they finally figured out they are being screwed. Bill Clinton knows.

 
 

Comment by Paul F. Villarreal | 2008-09-25 22:48:28

We told them, and they didn’t want to listen. 97% AA’s voting for you isn’t going to get it done, Barack, no matter how many dead people and animals you ‘register’ to vote via ACORN.

No wonder why Obama is freaking over commercials like this targeted at Bitter Clingers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nrSR5N7wI

‘Bama got his unearned economy bounce in the polls. That looks to be ending now.

Eggheads and African-Americans, Donna.

How you like that McGovern Coalition now?

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-25 23:41:30

Great post Paul!!

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:58:04

That’s a great video
“Where’s this guy from”

I also like McCain’s video on Patriotic..
Lot’s more patriots!!

 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-09-25 22:49:03

The DNC has proven to be untrustworthy in their chicanery to select Obama as the nominee. Reid, Pelosi, and Dean have all been next to worthless and Brazile is one of the biggest accomplices in the demise of the Democratic Party.

I viewed the news report when Brazile said that - what’s on the clip. I made my decision right then and there that if Obama became the nominee he would not get my vote. Others have followed suit until we have no one -all democrats- that will be voting for the Dem ticket.

My vote goes to McCain in November and then I will change my affiliation from Dem to Independent.

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-25 23:55:43

I can’t believe the DNC gave the nomination to 0bama after Hillary won the popular vote. Isn’t that what everyone complained about with Al Gore in 2000? Why is it justified now?

 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-09-25 22:51:08

In my family that is. No one is voting for Obama. Sorry.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:22:24

Everyone in my family is voting republican
Almost everyone in my company is voting republican
Most folks in my catholic church are voting Republican
Everyone on my street is voting Republican

When you wish defeat for America in Iraq and you wish for a recession here at home so that you can get elected and you throw out the good people that made the party..

You lose the election

America First!!

Comment by Carolyn Mann | 2008-09-26 00:27:06

My husband is so disgusted he’s swearing to vote Republican on all the downticket elections, too.

This is a great post because it captures how really steamed Democrats are — at least the real ones.

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 00:43:40

Yeah, I’m voting Repub down ticket since my state (CA) “passed” on the Roll Call vote at the Dem convention, thereby denying HRC her 444 state delegates.

 
 
 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 22:52:31

You know I am so glad I found out the truth about the democratic party before I voted for another one of them. They try to make people believe that the republicans are the racist party…we all know who is the racist party now…the ones who run the black candidate and play on white guilt to try to get you to vote for him…send out people to say racist things about the republican candidates …No I won’t be going back.

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:16:40

Good Riddance. We dont need people with IQs the EQs that are sub. You must be very proud of Sarah Palin tonight with her comments with Kati Couric. It was straight out of FARGO, but without the Coen Brother humor.

“Oh ya, we get Putin flying over head and we just dont know where he’s goin…. ”

You just cant make up stuff like that .

What an airhead, and you all are ready to make her number 1.

Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-25 23:23:41

How much executive experience does Obama have?

ZERO!!!

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:25:20

Phil..I’m disappointed in you!!

You know for a fact that we are smart educated successful people on this blog.

You just undermined your whole reason for being here!

Get lost!!

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-26 00:05:14

Seattle - Get real -What does it say about you guys if you can vote for Palin on any ticket after listening to her on her experience with Foreign Affairs tonight.

It was plain sad.

What did you think about it. And Couric soft peddled everything.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-26 00:16:59

Sarah Palin has values that I admire.
The democrats are low life thugs who are immoral and wish the worst for America.

I would trust Sarah’s judgment over Obama any time

This is the deciding factor for me..

At the state of the union address President bush proclaimed success in Iraq with the surge. Obama had an opportunity to be an American first and wish our troops victory despite his opposition. Instead he sat on his hands wishing defeat as that was the issue he based his whole campaign on to win. Hillary conversely stood and clapped our troops like a true patriotic American
Obama failed the test!

McCain and Palin are true patriotic Americans just like myself.
I don’t recognize the democrats or Obama

 

Comment by Carolyn Mann | 2008-09-26 00:44:53

Phil,

The first six years Obama was in the state Senate, he didn’t do anything — nada, zip. Didn’t get one piece of legislation out of committee, let along passed. The only reason he got anything passed in his seventh year was because the head of the state Senate decided he wanted to be a kingmaker and put Obama’s name on other legislators’ work, denying them the opportunity to get credit for measures they had been trying to pass for years. Obama spent his eighth year in the state Senate running for the U.S. Senate.

And what has he done since winning his current seat? Nada. Zip. He started running for president after less than five months in office, and has pretty much neglected his job since then, not holding a single subcommittee
hearing during his time in office.

So my question is this: What makes Obama any more of an expert on foreign policy than Palin? And she’s only running for VP. Obama’s the incompetent that’s running for president.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 01:11:27

 
 
 
 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 23:53:16

Phil, where is Biden these days? Is he still on the ticket? No one really cares.

 

Comment by cleffnote | 2008-09-26 00:12:08

Wouldn’t it have been interesting if Katie Couric asked that same question of Joe Biden. What would Biden have said about the zip, nada, nothing Obama has done in the Senate……”ahhhhhhh, I’ll have to get back to you on that one because, well, I can’t think of a darn thing Barack has done.”

 

Comment by Karma | 2008-09-26 00:25:06

I didn’t see the interview yet, but it isn’t like Putin is filing flight plans with his bombers.

You are the one who looks like the fool that you aren’t aware of such issues.

And isn’t the rub of that movie.

That the people insulting their intelligence, and trying to get over on them, were the real fools.

Twice in one post you’ve painted yourself as the real ‘airhead’ in the debate.

LOL

 

Comment by silverfox | 2008-09-26 09:56:19

philly boy….

Obama:”they can call me if they need me…”

just saying.

 

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 00:46:54

You forget, Palin is the VP candidate, not the presidential candidate.

Obama and his Pod Dem Party’s obsession with Palin reveals their insecurity and misogyny toward this and all women.

 
 
 

Comment by deb | 2008-09-25 22:52:42

We’ve already switched to unaffiliated

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-26 00:00:20

Just amazing that people come here to browbeat or taunt McCain supporters and somehow that doesn’t convince anyone to support 0bama. I had two former coworkers who used the same tactics with me and a fellow McCain supporter. I kept asking them, why should I listen to you when you insult me constantly? They just kept at it, like spoiled children nagging their mommy for candy. I don’t get it!

 
 

Comment by AnnieO | 2008-09-25 22:53:45

Great article, but I must admit that I’m too distracted by the economic crisis to think about this.

Comment by richasis | 2008-09-25 22:57:18

“I must admit that I’m too distracted by the economic crisis to think about this.”

um, yeah… by the way, what specifics are distracting you most?

Comment by AnnieO | 2008-09-25 23:00:30

What to do about my life savings. How do I get my husand to understand the gravity of this situation? How bad will this get? How long will this last? Will I lose my home? Will my husband lose his job? I could go on and on.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:01:49

…will I smarten up and realize that voting for a self-proclaimed deregulator who was responsible for the last major financial crisis is not the answer…

all good questions

Comment by AnnieO | 2008-09-25 23:06:32

I don’t really agree with you, but at the same time, I’m not really interested in who is to blame. I just want a solution that gives me confidence in the future.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:14:16

The solution is more regulation, and less trickle-down voodoo economics which does nothing to help the average American.

Those who ignore the past are bound to repeat it. Unless we understand who is to blame, we will be unable to figure out how to fix it.

Deregulation is to blame. John McCain and Phil Graham are to blame. Those who believe in the almighty market are to blame.

The free market works. Sure. McCain’s right there. But we are unable to accept one of the fundamental truths of the working free market - it goes in cycles, and sometimes those cycles lead to a depression. Unless we are willing to accept a truly free market, which we are not, we must install the proper regulations, which will prevent our economy from ever reaching its free-market peak, but will also prevent crashes like the one we are currently undergoing.

The problem is, John McCain just doesn’t get it. And if he doesn’t understand why he was wrong in the past, he will never give me confidence in the future.

It’s the same problem I always had with Hillary with her war vote. It wasn’t that she made the vote - the past is the past. But in refusing to show that she understood that she made a mistake, I could not trust her to make the correct decision in the future, specificaly with Iran.

Until McCain admits that deregulation is to blame for this crisis, I cannot imagine handing the reins of the world’s most prosperous economy to him.

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:18:24

Great points!

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:22:32

and the first person to call me a stupid bot comes in….10…9..8…………

Call me whatever you want, but I’m clearly not some idiotic person who just loves hope and is being tricked into voting for Obama.

I’m a proud Democrat who has always voted on the issues first. Yes, I’m an egghead who actually understands our economy and our country.

I’m a huge Bill Clinton supporter. I’m a New York Mets fan. I like to cook and enjoy a good morning run.

I’m not a bot. I’m a citizen who cannot stand the route our country has gone in the past 8 years.

Look at our economy in 1999. Look at it now.

If you think John McCain’s Bush policies are really going to help us, you’re crazy.

Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-25 23:32:20

You don’t understand anything about the current crisis. There doesn’t need to be any cycles. What happened is that banks and lending institutions create money out of thin air. When you go to a bank to get a mortgage, the bank just types a number in your bank account. They don’t actually get that money from anywhere.

You understand that part? What happens is that they gave loans to people who could not pay it back. So CASHFLOW was the problem. When people defaulted on their loans, CASHFLOW stopped so they raised the interest on their other clients who were paying their loans just fine. But some people had up to 500% increases in their loan payments and this snowballed the effect of reducing the cashflow even further as foreclosures increased.

So this bailout won’t solve anything if cashflow is the problem. After the $700 million is gone, you’re still gonna have a cashflow problem. It’s not X or Y amount that’s the problem, it’s an infinite amount in cashflow and this is why wall street is worried because the solution requires a new source of revenue to replace the lost cashflow. Hence, the taxpayers will be forced to pay for it for a very long time. Decades. This happened in Japan in the ’80s. There are other examples of this happening elsewhere.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:37:24

Silly rabbit.

No one was saying this crisis has anything to do with cycles.

There are two basic tenants of conservative economic policy. One is the belief in the free-market and cycles. The other is deregulation. They go hand in hand.

The reason that banks were able to give suprime mortgages and then sell securities backed by these mortgages is the repeal of regulation and oversight laws over the past 8 years. As eneral accounting practices have become more regulated based on Sarbanes Oxley (SOX), our financial markets have seemingly prospered under a complete lack of oversight and an inability of our government to have any say over their dangerous practices.

I could go a lot more into depth but frankly it’s what I do during my day job and I’m pretty tired of discussing it.

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Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-25 23:44:28

I could go a lot more into depth but frankly it’s what I do during my day job and I’m pretty tired of discussing it.

Promise?

 

Comment by athena | 2008-09-25 23:51:39

yep they need to temp. suspend the accounting practice of mark to market and that will help with the flow again, insure subprime mortgages with HUD/FHA - BUT NO BAILOUT.

 
 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-09-26 00:20:40

Jon, I agree with you about de regulation. however, I also have a problem with character assassination. I won’t vote for Obama because in order to pull black voters from Hillary, he spread the lie that Bill Clinton, BILL CLINTON, is a racist.
I hope he burns in hell for that.
As a huge Bill Clinton supporter, I’m sure you understand.

 
 
 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-25 23:59:57

Deregulation is to blame. John McCain and Phil Graham are to blame.

You’ve got to be fuckin’ kidding me. If you’re going to throw that out there, you must also give the other half of the story. Fannie/Freddie had nothing to do with this mess we’re in? Last time I checked, the reason why credit is drying up and short term loan rates just hit 6% is because these lending agencies have so much bad debts from the home loans fiasco. There’s plenty of blame to go around and the Dems are deep in their eyeballs in it as well.

 

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-26 00:15:39

ACORN. NACA. CRA. Government acts, not the free market.

The capital will flee to Hong Kong and other unregulated markets with more FDR type regulations. There’s nothing wrong with the free market. It has been polluted with too much meddling from government.

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 01:23:57

That’s exactly what happened Vicky, Barney frank and Dodd were a big part of the problem.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/printer/23617.html

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/59378A42-6A21-4AAF-8BB1-BCB8B08921FB/

 
 

Comment by Leisa | 2008-09-26 00:28:48

lies, contortions, distractions… that is what Obama trolls do…

Listen, connect the dots with facts and credible links that are verifiable… you are blowing smoke otherwise.

Barney Frank is a porker that is now squealing because he is so scared that his game is up…

Dodd is trying to play it cool and pass this bailout quickly as to sweep his involvement under the rug.

Others are running for cover or blowing smoke screens.

The howling and partisan behavior (mostly by dems this time around)is for their own self-interests, not yours or mine.

Both parties have players in this mess and if you want to point fingers, you had damn well have your facts straight.

Up to this point, you FAIL. I call you on your BS. I am sick and tired of you and your slime ball candidate and the slick pigs he and his minions cling to.

 

Comment by Susan1968 | 2008-09-26 00:44:57

Democrats voted aginst regulation too.

McCain asked FOR Regulation of Fannie & Freddie. Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dowd (who got his special “VIP” mortgage rate) refused to regulate Fannie & Freddie. They fought against it.

Google it.

 
 
 

Comment by bethtopaz | 2008-09-26 01:03:36

Here’s a few paragraphs from a recent article in IBD:

Regulators didn’t need to do much policing; they let that job fall to radical community groups, such as ACORN and NACA, which siphoned literally billions of dollars from banks and lent the money in poor communities.

It wasn’t entirely altruistic.

The community groups booked thousands of dollars in fees for every loan. And loans often required recipients to become active in radical causes — what’s today called “community organizing.”

If a community group decided a bank was operating in bad faith, it could affect the bank’s “CRA rating” — the scorecard for how well it was doing as a minority lender.

Banks became pliable, easy targets. No bank CEO wanted to be mau-maued as an enemy of the poor. They became shakedown targets, channeling billions of dollars to groups that had, at best, meager results to show for it.

To read the whole article, go here:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307061229501695

 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-09-25 23:10:34

Then you should get some sleep. maybe you’ll feel better in the morning.
the darkest hour is just before dawn.

For those who do want to talk about this article, I quit the DNC in June and haven’t heard from them. Then last week they sent me a vote democrat bumper sticker that didn’t even mention Barky. of course they sent a request for money. I wrote back and told them Donna said she didn’t need me so ask her for the money.
It felt good.

Comment by AnnieO | 2008-09-25 23:19:29

You’re probably right. Out of respect for all of you here, I’ll just get some rest and check in with all of you tomorrow. Hopefully, tomorrow will be a good day on Wall St., but my gut tells me otherwise. Have a good night everyone.

Comment by wry | 2008-09-26 00:22:16

Good night Annie.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:00:38

Drudge has up the headlines on the bank failures
http://www.drudgereport.com/

largest ever…

 
 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-09-25 22:55:04

I’m stunned this wench still has a job. Gawd, and to think, I used to like her. She was gracious during Katrina eben though she had family there, now…just shut up and go away, Donna. You helped destroy the Democratic Party, now go find a tub of Ben and Jerry’s and drown yourself.

 

Comment by deb | 2008-09-25 22:55:21

Q)How does 700 billon to the financial industry stopped home prices from falling?

A)It doesn’t; it just saves them from going under!

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:04:18

Do you understand anything about the current financial crisis we are in?

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:10:57

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:15:26

Yes, I do in fact. Would you like to discuss it.

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:21:15

Go ahead, start.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:24:33

Might want to look above for the discussion that has already begun, for the sake of time and sanity. If you have anyplace you disagree or any specific points you’d like to debate I’d be happy to do so.

Just hoping to prove that there are plenty of Obama supporters who aren’t Bots. We just think he’s the best man left for the job.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:30:58

Very lame answer..Maybe you should go to bed.
In the morning the fiscal conservatives along with John McCain are going to save America.

That will be strike three for Obama

1…The Surge and victory in Iraq

2…The Sarah Palin choice

3…The McCain financial bill

4…October surprise

The republicans always know how to stomp on rookie democrats

 
 
 

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:24:15

Forget it, I just read the simpleton spiel you wrote above at 23:14:16…

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:26:01

I kept it single because I’m really quite unsure of the average IQ here after reading most of the comments. If you’d like to discuss in more detail please feel free to start, I’d be happy to have an intellectual conversation about economics with you.

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:28:44

No thanks, I just saw an article on FT.com about US lose of financial superpower that interests me more.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:32:26

Yea I read that article. It’s decent but I’m not sure if I agree with the German’s perspective. After visiting a few of the countries he mentioned (china and russia), I don’t think that they are anywhere close to taking our place as a financial superpower just yet, but we sure are on the brink of completely losing foreign confidence in us as a country, both politically and economically.

Then again, given the amount of our debt currently held by China, perhaps we have more to worry about than I fear.

To think that Bush was handed a surplus and a booming economy just 8 short years ago.

I want Bill back…anyone else? Maybe we can find some common ground there.

Like Jon Stewart said on the Daily Show Tuesday night to Bill..”if you ran this year, you’d win by what - 30 points?

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 01:09:14

But Jon Stewart was against Hillary! Go figure!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-09-25 22:56:35

I am 100% for Senator John McCain/Gov. Sarah Palin ‘08
Senator Hillary Clinton for President ‘12 !

The Democratic Party, my party for over 30 years, made me do it: VOTE REPUBLICAN !!

GOD SAVE AMERICA !!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 22:56:54

you’re right, uppity woman. the loons (elite socialist fringe snobs) have taken over the party. A defeat should shut them up.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:02:59

Do you not realize that by calling us socialists you give yourself away as a Republican.

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:05:57

Jon,
Obama has made republicans out of most of us so get over it.

He has shown us how dirty the party really is and we want no part of that.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:09:06

LOL. Like the Republicans aren’t dirty? Yea Karl Rove and Steve Schmidt are real clean cut political operatives.

Get over yourselves. This IS politics. If you’re not willing to do everything necessary to win, you don’t deserve to lead. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is.

Bill and Hillary get it. Why don’t you?

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:13:22

We get it, but the result isn’t the one you want. And as for Bill and Hillary, one can safely say that they be pulling the lever, filling in the circle, whatever, for……..McCain/Palin.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:17:07

Hahahahahhahaha.

Are you really that far into your twilight zone of a world?

Read My Life, and then tell me Bill Clinton is going to vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin. It might actually help you to understand the man you claim to support as well. All 1,000 pages are brilliant and the words of a man who will NEVER support Republican policies.

Hahahahahhaha

Thanks for a good laugh.

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 23:51:12

well, then, I guess we will have to do it for him this election cycle.

 

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 02:05:04

I have read it and your wrong. Have you been watching “Big Dog” of late? Has he campaigned for Obama? Has he even said half the complementary things about Obama as he has for Palin and McCain? You are fantasizing.

 

Comment by trixta | 2008-09-27 01:11:54

Didn’t Bill Clinton suggest that he thought candidate “Y” would be the better candidate?

Candidate “Y” 2008!

 
 

Comment by TxDi | 2008-09-25 23:47:16

I love that response, by rw, that Bill and Hillary could be pulling the lever for McCain/Palin 08!!! My sentiments as well.
Jon doesn’t seem to get it…or does he (she)think they will accompany Bill or Hillary into the voting both.
What fools!

 
 
 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:11:26

I’m very proud to call myself a Republican now.
I’ve seen the light and realize that the democrats are anything but democratic.
In fact the New democrats are anti-American Marxist scum.

Comment by bethtopaz | 2008-09-26 01:12:54

In fact the New democrats are anti-American Marxist scum.
******************
I really and truly think you’re right.

We need two good opposing parties in the United States, so they can balance each other out, but it seems the Democratic Party has now fully been overtaken by the Far Left Socialist/Marxist element in this country.

I don’t know what the future holds, but the majority of Americans reject Marxism (or so I hope).

Republicans have had a big tent and now with this Obama debacle will have an even larger tent.

Somewhere along the line, there will have to be a split so more people can be properly represented.

If Obama ran honestly - as the Marxist he is, he would be so far down in the polls that the MSM would be talking about something else.

 
 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 23:07:29

lol. I took that phrase (elite socialist fringe snobs) directly from uppity womans article. Learn to read the article first. yes, maybe for you, whoever doesn’t agree with your messiah is REPUBLICAN. lol rofl

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 23:56:06

whoever doesn’t agree with your messiah is REPUBLICAN. lol rofl

They hace a really bad case of whoever isn’t with us is against us, don’t they?

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:24:26

Poor things don’t understand we will be saving them, too.

 
 
 

Comment by StrawberrybitesBarky | 2008-09-25 23:24:54

Exactly, Obama is no socialist, he’s a corporate whore and a limpwristed, finger to the wind, big girl’s blouse.

 

Comment by Lis | 2008-09-26 00:01:32

I’m a republican & proud of it. If I was a democrat, I’d be ashamed to admit it.

Comment by Zee | 2008-09-26 00:50:03

Lis, bite me. Go proudly own Bush and Cheney.

My vote for McCain is a protest vote. Unlike YOU and YOURS I’m gonna fight for my party.

You and all the Bushites have blood on YOUR hands.

 
 

Comment by Susan1968 | 2008-09-26 00:50:59

I’m a centrist Democrat.

In this election, the only centrist is McCain.

Even his own party calls him “The Democrat.” Some call him a RINO - Republican in name only.

Truth is - voting for McCain is like voting for a centrist Democrat.

In fact — John Kerry considered asking McCain to be his VP in 2004.

Think about it.

Comment by dee4hill | 2008-09-26 07:51:13

Me too, Susan1968.

McCain/Palin ‘08
Hillary ‘12

 
 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-09-25 23:03:54

Probably not. They will never comprehend that they were the agents of their own destruction.

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 23:12:14

ITA JWRJR

They are not teachable. They are far too “smart” to have to learn anything other than what they already “know”

 
 

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:20:05

Shut them up at your own demise. You must be proud of the Couric interview, and McCain’s nearly non-presence at the whitehouse today.

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:38:12

Personally, I place more faith in those who speak less in public and do so only when they have something to say rather than to those who constantly seek to call attention to themselves.

Thank God for John McCain and the Republicans for objecting to passing this “bailout” plan in the heat of the moment without really thinking it through. What we’re now finding is that there is pork in this plan and that there may well be better ways to accomplish what we need to accomplish, such as making the government the insurer for any mortgages that default rather than simply forking over $700 billion.

 

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:26:12

All John really had to say was one little word “NO’.

 
 
 

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 22:59:24

Proud egghead here…

this website just consists of a constant stream of rants. I haven’t seen a call to action here in ages.

Disappointing. If you actually put your strong feelings to action you might just make a difference.

Instead your just a bitter group of people writing the same thing over and over in a glass bubble on a perfectly lovely Thursday evening.

What’s the point?

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2008-09-25 23:08:14

The point is that your guy is going to be defeated by …
All the republicans
half of the independents
third of the democrats

We have been very busy!

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:18:35

But you haven’t.

you just sit here and whine.

Which is why you’re going to lose.

You complain about dirty tactics. Whatever. We’re going to do everything we possibly can to get Barack Obama elected President. This is THAT important.

Unless you’re willing to do the same for McCain, I’m not worried.

There’s no crying in politics.

Comment by typical bitter whitey woman | 2008-09-25 23:36:17

you mean get in peoples’ face and ship in the votes of the dead?

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:39:11

If that’s what it takes to beat the voter disenfranchisement that the Republicans have so mastered over the past 30 years, then yes, why not.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-25 23:44:22

Assuming you are saying “the ends justify the means” that makes you the modern equivalent of the “good German.” You can’t right evil with more evil. Its a vicious cycle otherwise.

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:49:27

We tried it the other way and two good candidates lost. Look where we are now.

I’m not proposing beating or killing or anything like that.

I’m just saying make sure that OUR votes are counted and theirs aren’t, and at the end of the day we win.

With the margin so small in the past elections, it rarely matters the number of votes cast for each candidate. The only thing that really matters is the number of counted for each candidate.

I’m gonna do whatever it takes to make sure more Obama votes are counted than McCain votes.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-25 23:54:55

I’m gonna do whatever it takes to make sure more Obama votes are counted than McCain votes.

Care to elaborate? “Whatever it takes” means?

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:59:20

I’m going to let the fantastical imaginations of the great citizens of NoQuarter take that one…

Given some of the stuff I’ve been accused of here, I bet it’ll be pretty good.

Next post on NoQuarter:

Official Obama spokesman admits to massive voter fraud scandal: Entire Continent of Africa to vote for Obama in Swing States.

Hey that sounds pretty good. Maybe I’ll write it up and send it to The Onion.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-26 00:05:43

So it is of no use to engage you in a dialog since you are dodging the question. I should have known better than to engage a troll.

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Comment by Sledman Bob | 2008-09-26 00:46:58

you got engaged to a troll?

[ADMINISTRATOR: YOU'RE PERMANENTLY BANNED. GO ELSEWHERE and TRY TO GROW UP.]

 

Comment by WildChild | 2008-09-26 00:49:10

pssst, drop the got and the to bob. LOL there…. that’s better.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:29:08

When insults don’t work…they turn to voter fraud….yea, that will make us come back. You must be insane.

 

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 00:42:53

jon — haul your 15 year old self off to bed.

 

Comment by tampagurl | 2008-09-26 01:42:48

Wow!!!!!!!Jon, You’ve just proven us right. Obama and his supporters are thieves and crooks. I am so done with that party! you’re all a bunch of communist thugs.

 
 
 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-25 23:49:08

….ahhhh - so NOW we know - by ANY MEANS necessary, even if that means cheating! Your true character has been shown! Obama and his campaign want to WIN, even if it involves cheating….

Comment by Jon | 2008-09-25 23:50:42

Like I said, we tried it the other way and it sucked.

we need a Democrat in office.

Bush wanted to win, even if it involved cheating (which it did).

I’m just saying lets make it a fair fight.

Comment by Mr. X | 2008-09-26 00:16:34

There are no Democrats running for the office of POTUS. Just lettin’ ya know.

 

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 00:44:51

jon — So no matter who we vote for we get Obama huh? Go away you little turd.

 
 
 

Comment by Susan1968 | 2008-09-26 00:53:04

Seriusly — you think getting in people’s faces pullsthem to your side?

You just revealed yourself as a a paid Obama operative.

 
 
 

Comment by bethtopaz | 2008-09-26 01:17:35

How do you know what anyone’s been doing when they’re posting on this site?

Are you the KGB? Or a member of Obama’s National Civilian Security Force sent to spy on all citizens of America to make sure they’re being loyal to the One?

 
 
 

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:23:42

Jon - The problem is that you get people here that are appealing to a lot of anger. Anger works, and hits the same pleasure centers of the brain. But its not sustaining. What does sustain it for a while is a constant stream of gotchas aimed at some poor schmuck that comes on board here that can be accosted.

They you get digitally mastered “high fives’ across the global net.

Good reference - Lord of the Flies - original version.

Just dont be pigee, and dont have assmar, or you will end up floating in the water off of Australia!

 
 

Comment by MoniQue | 2008-09-25 23:09:15

O and lest we forget that ridiculous photo op Obama did drinking a beer…in a glass???

Are we supposed to believe he’s one of us blue collar folks? HE WAS DRINKING THE BEER IN A GLASS OF ALL THINGS!! A TALL, THIN GLASS? PINKY UP?

EARTH TO OBAMA - beer drinking folks drink beer OUT OF THE BOTTLE, but you wouldn’t know that because you despise us. AND if we were to drink beer out of a glass it’d be a FROSTY BEER MUG.

EARTH TO DONNA BRA-ZILLA - By the way, PUMA’s are cats, aka cougars, mountain lions, and cats don’t like leashes, we’d rather be DRAGGED to our deaths before we’d let you walk us on one.

Hisssss out.

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:27:43

Monique - It depends where you are drinking. Most of the finer restaurants do not serve beer out of a bottle, but serve it in a glass or a mug.

Nothing wrong with that. I just got back from Ireland, and half the folks now dont drink as much, and I saw plenty of beer being drunk out of glasses.

Drinking out of a beer is fine, but its a regional thing, and its depending on the level of a bar or restaurant you are going to.

Obama is fine to drink it out of a glass. Its proper, and the way one should drink it.

Unless you want him dropping his shot into a glass and chugging it, which is fine under the circumstances. I like drinking it all different ways, and nothing under a pint.

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 01:19:52

“drinking out of a beer is fine..”? Phil, again, your a moron and you don’t even know it.

 

Comment by Postmaster | 2008-09-26 10:30:35

wow, I’m impressed! Phil Murphy just gave us instructons on how an elitist drinks beer! WOOT WOOT WOOT

 
 
 

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-25 23:09:38

Terrific post, Uppity! You are on a roll. Keep them coming!

 

Comment by socalannie | 2008-09-25 23:10:10

Double teaming trolls tonite. Ignore them, everyone!

 

Comment by NoBO | 2008-09-25 23:10:25

Comment by socalannie | 2008-09-25 23:11:11

Haha! lIke it!

 

Comment by vinnie | 2008-09-26 00:06:26

I love me some deborah harry and would hate her to be associated with the stuttering fool.

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:35:07

 
 
 

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 23:10:47

I am glad Americans are finally saying enough to those peddling false smears against Barack Obama.

The Barack Obama campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading TV ad during the presidential campaign.

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

Comment by NoBO | 2008-09-25 23:14:03

Why on earth would anyone want to peddle any false smears on Obama? Goodness, there are so many legitimate smears to peddle. ;)

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 23:19:00

The McCain campaign has been documented by various media outlets of having made numerous mislading or outright false ads against Senator Obama. Hopefully, criminal charges will be filed against John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Comment by Medusa | 2008-09-25 23:31:52

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 22:28:03

Senator Obama is a gift from God, there is no need to look at his resume.

FF, YOU ARE A JOKE, AND A BAD ONE. DETOX FROM THE KOOLAID LITTLE BOY

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:41:36

“Numerous” huh? Name one besides the “teaching schoolchildren sex” ad, which I do have to agree was misrepresenting Obama’s intent when supporting that bill. Interestingly, the ad was pulled after six days and only ran in four states, I believe.

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 01:31:23

Dan, READ THE BILL!! It was not a child protection bill it was a full revamping of the Illinois sex ed with the primary change of moving it’s jurisdiction for sex ed for 6-12th grade to k-12. I read the bill. read this:
it’s clear that one of its key purposes was to change existing law that said “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades 6 through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of AIDS” to “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”

“comprehensive sex ed offered in any grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections…” What does this have to do with pedophilia. One of the authors of the bill (a Dem and Obama supporter) said the authors of the bill did not see this as a pedophilia protection bill although that was in the bill. In addition to all this the bill NEVER PASSED. It never even made it out of committee. If this was a bill to protect 5 year olds from pedophilia your telling me the Dem. dominated legislature in Illinois opposed it?

Nobama is lying and everyone is lapping it up like idiots. IT IS SO FRUSTRATING!

 
 

Comment by TxDi | 2008-09-25 23:54:28

Wellll, spank my hiney, Freedom Fighter!

 

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:36:57

It says right in the article they aren’t gonna prosecute anyone. So your point is pointless, as per usual.

 

Comment by silverfox | 2008-09-26 10:26:01

FF

the obama campaign has been caught in quite a few smears itself.

what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

this is a free country.

freedom of speech is a constitutional right.

the obama lawyer folks in missouri will have quite a busy time on their hands, and how do they expect to finance this ridiculousness? is the obama campaign forking out the dough? are the obamacoupons so scared and desperate? it doesn’t make them look good at all to the folks they are trying to get to vote for them.

jeez.

give me a goddamn break.

 
 
 

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-25 23:17:55

Like the Obama ad saying McCain was against stem cell research is the truth?

Or, how about, Obama has fabricated facts and stretched the truth about his own past in his books, we could be telling a lie about him and not even know it!!!

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:22:01

How about the ad the 527 put out on McCain about his cancer asking HIM to release his medical records…he already did…where are Obama’s..

527 are legal

Oh and Dean’s brother is behind the ad against McCain.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 23:35:57

According to Robert Bauer, General Counsel to Obama for America: “Unlike federal candidates, independent political organizations do not have a “right to command the use of broadcast facilities.” Failure to prevent the airing of “false and misleading advertising” may be “probative of an underlying abdication of licensee responsibility.”

 
 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:19:23

Obama whining again…this is a general election…he is playing with the big boys now and all he does is whine and complain about ads…lol…

 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-25 23:52:49

Are any Americans demanding that false lies/ads against McCain be stopped? It works BOTH ways, y’know!

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 01:36:22

again McCain’s ad is not false:

READ THE BILL!! It was not a child protection bill it was a full revamping of the Illinois sex ed with the primary change of moving it’s jurisdiction for sex ed for 6-12th grade to k-12. I read the bill. read this:
it’s clear that one of its key purposes was to change existing law that said “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades 6 through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of AIDS” to “Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”

“comprehensive sex ed offered in any grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections…” What does this have to do with pedophilia. One of the authors of the bill (a Dem and Obama supporter) said the authors of the bill did not see this as a pedophilia protection bill although that was in the bill. In addition to all this the bill NEVER PASSED. It never even made it out of committee. If this was a bill to protect 5 year olds from pedophilia your telling me the Dem. dominated legislature in Illinois opposed it?

 
 
 

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-09-25 23:10:52

Hey everyone go to this link at PBS and vote.

http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

They are asking if you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP. Apparently the bots are trying to flood the poll so they don’t announce on Pbs positive results for Gov. Palin.

Comment by Liberty Belle not for Obama | 2008-09-25 23:18:46

Just voted, and can report it’s tied 49% yes to 49% no when I checked out.

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:33:39

The libs are circulating a mass e-mail to try and rig the vote. I had a copy sent to me yesterday (I sent the sender an e-mail in reply telling him that Sarah Palin was at least as qualified for the presidency as Barack Obama and to please take me off his e-mailing list.)

 

Comment by Zee | 2008-09-26 00:54:03

Oh, PLEASE go and vote. Two of my progressive friends sent me this and I reamed them out for being so sexist.

49-49 is not good enough!

 
 

Comment by MoniQue | 2008-09-25 23:13:20

Are we supposed to believe he’s one of us blue collar folks? HE WAS DRINKING THE BEER IN A GLASS OF ALL THINGS!! A TALL, THIN GLASS? PINKY UP? Remember that ridiculous photo op where Obama was drinking a beer so he could “relate to the blue collar folks?”

EARTH TO OBAMA - beer drinking folks drink beer OUT OF THE BOTTLE, but you wouldn’t know that because you despise us. AND if we were to drink beer out of a glass it’d be a FROSTY BEER MUG.

EARTH TO DONNA BRA-ZILLA - By the way, PUMA’s are cats, aka cougars, mountain lions, and cats don’t like leashes, we’d rather be DRAGGED to our deaths before we’d let you walk us on one.

Hisssss out.

 

Comment by Carol | 2008-09-25 23:13:47

Well, I’m one of those Garlic smelling noses that will not vote for Obama. I have been fighting with myself about changing party affiliation from Democrat to Republican (I want to vote in Primary so I won’t go Independent). The only thing keeping me from changing is the hope that we can get our old Democratic Party back and elect Hillary in ‘12.

But, one thing I worry about is the sneakiness of the Chicago Political Machine. They are not above doing things to make sure Obama wins.

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:16:25

I went repub for that reason…I want to vote..indy can’t

 

Comment by silverfox | 2008-09-26 10:31:36

carol…

the obama cartel/chicago machine will most definitely be doing anything and everything to get their trojan horse through the gate.

count on it.

 
 

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:13:59

US ‘will lose financial superpower status’
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1d6a4f3a-8aee-11dd-b634-0000779fd18c.html

The US will lose its role as a global financial “superpower” in the wake of the financial crisis, Peer Steinbrück, the German finance minister, said on Thursday, blaming Washington for failing to take the regulatory steps that might have averted the crisis.

“The US will lose its status as the superpower of the world financial system. This world will become multi­polar” with the emergence of stronger, better capitalised centres in Asia and Europe, Mr Steinbrück told the German parliament. “The world will never be the same again.”

His were the most out­spoken comments by a senior European government figure since Wall Street fell into chaos two weeks ago.

He later told journalists: “When we look back 10 years from now, we will see 2008 as a fundamental rupture. I am not saying the dollar will lose its reserve currency status, but it will become relative.”

The minister, who has spearheaded German efforts to rein in financial markets in the past two years, attacked the US government for opposing stricter regulations even after the subprime crisis had broken out last summer.

The US notion that markets should remain as free as possible from regulatory shackles “was as simplistic as it was dangerous”, he said.

But Mr Steinbrück had warm words for the US’s crisis management in the past fortnight, including the government’s planned $700bn rescue package for the financial sector. Washington, he said, had earned credit for acting not just in the US interest but also in the interest of other nations.

Yet he repeated Germany’s refusal to mount a similar rescue operation using taxpayers’ money to acquire toxic assets. “This crisis originated in the US and is mainly hitting the US,” he said. In Europe and Germany, such a package would be “neither sensible nor ­necessary”.

The US, Mr Steinbrück said, had failed in its oversight of investment banks, adding that the crisis was an indictment of the US two-tier banking system and its “weak, divided financial oversight”.

He blamed Washington for refusing to consider proposals Berlin had made as it chaired the Group of Eight industrial nations last year. These proposals, he said, “elicited mockery at best or were seen as a typical example of Germans’ penchant for over-regulation”.

His comments followed calls this week by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president and current holder of the European Union presidency, for an emergency G8 meeting on the crisis.

Mr Steinbrück’s proposals include a ban on “purely speculative short selling”; a crackdown on variable pay for bank managers, which had encouraged reckless risk-taking; a ban on banks securitising more than 80 per cent of the debt they hold; international standards making bank managers personally responsible for the consequences of their trades; and increased co-operation between European super­visors.

Following a meeting with Christine Lagarde, his French counterpart, in Berlin, he said France and Germany would set up a working group of treasury, central bank and supervisory authority officials that would consider tougher regulation of short selling.

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:31:32

Bullshit. We’ll get through this, and hopefully we’ll be stronger at the end of the day for it because some valuable lessons will have been learned. The fact is that the US still counts for 25% of the world’s GDP. Nobody else comes close. And despite the twin shocks of the oil price spike and the housing meltdown, we still haven’t had so much as one quarter of negative GDP growth yet.

 

Comment by Vicki | 2008-09-26 01:32:19

We don’t listen to countries with an economy that is a tiny fraction of the size of the US, especially when they are completely ungrateful for the military presence in their midst that keeps them from spending penny one on defense, and contributes millions to their economy.

Move the bases to Poland, the Czech Republic, Romania and Hungary where we’ll be appreciated!

 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-09-25 23:14:24

Thanks, Seattle Moss. That’s a real dose of reality for the Obots.

Jon’s no egghead to make such an erroneous leap as to say: “calling us socialists you give yourself away as a Republican.”

Wrong.

We’re democrats that will not be party to the left wing takeover of the country by the thugocrats, of which you seem to be one, Jon. Own your own crap-azz candidate and all he stands for which borders on - 850 billion initiative to spread the wealth - socialism.

Apparently we PUMA democrats are in very large and good company.

Comment by Zee | 2008-09-26 00:56:11

The socialist bullshit talk has got to stop. Do not adopt the rethug vocabulary. If you want to rebuild our party you can’t use thug terms.

 
 

Comment by sad | 2008-09-25 23:14:29

Happy to see the spanish guy top Hillary supporter endorse McCain tonight.

To bad no one is listening to Hillary’s bail out ideas.

Glad to see Bill say kind words about McCain this morning.

Happy that after the DNC shenanigans I will no longer be supporting Democrats despite Hillary’s asking us too, but that I will be voting for the maverick who puts country first and stunt or not, he is in Washington trying to come up with a solution for the bailout problem. Thank You McCain.
If you are unable to make the debate, it won’t change a thing, you still have my vote and I have been a Dem since 1960. Donna Brazille and the rules committee decisions turned my stomach and will be a long time before I will ever vote Dem again except for Hillary.

Comment by bethtopaz | 2008-09-26 01:24:13

I agree with you, and besides, if Obama decides to go to the debate and is there alone — well, he really won’t be alone.

He can debate himself.

God knows he’s changed his mind on issues so many times, all he has to do is change seats: “I’m against FISA.”

(After moving to the other seat) “I’m for FISA.”

Etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

It would be quite entertaining, really.

 
 

Comment by rw | 2008-09-25 23:16:29

 

Comment by MoniQue | 2008-09-25 23:17:22

HEY PHIL MURPHY,

RE-READ MY POST, PUMAS DON’T WALK ON LEASHES AND YOUR RACE BAITING POST IS JUST THAT: A LEASH.

HISSS OUT.

LION OWNS TIGER!

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:30:52

Tell me what I said and I will answer. I dont post racist stuff. Ask Kgirl about it. I dont much like Pumas anyway. I’m married and PUMAS need to stay locked up.

Comment by Karma | 2008-09-25 23:49:13

So are you trying to claim PUMAs would hit on you?

Because making a sexist joke about cougars and replacing it with the political group PUMA.

Doesn’t really track with your I am upbove the ‘racist stuff’.

Protect minorities from your jokes but half the population is fair game…lol.

What a magnanimous person you are…geez.

Either way….thanks for the reveal.

 
 
 

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-09-25 23:18:49

Donna Brazzile can keep her new party when she leaves the DNC.

Sen Graham told Gretta on Fox that one of the the ridiculous components of the Democrat deal was that 20% of the total was going to ACORN to manage!

$140,000,000,000.00 to Obama’s precinct organization!

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:25:25

This shows it is not just Obama who is tied to ACORN. The whole damn party is.

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-25 23:59:22

Well they moved the whole damn party to Chicago, after all.

 

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 00:53:51

30yeardem — The Democratic Party is wholly owned by Obama now. Harry Reid asked Obama for money for the down ticket Democrats and Obama said NO. Shameful

 
 
 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 23:20:40

Once Obama loses, he’ll go back into oblivion, and the democratic party will be rebuilt again. The Obamacrats will have to turn and become democrats again. gonna be lots of purging within the party. the howling loons (that are currently in charge) will have to be muzzled. Uppity woman, keep the faith. The Democratic party will be back.

Comment by Freedom Fighter | 2008-09-25 23:25:21

Are you kidding? Every single Democrat, with the exception of Joe Lieberman is supporting Barack Obama. In the unlikely event that Barack Obama loses this election, this is still Barack’s party.

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:28:34

Do you seriously believe that? If so, then you’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

 

Comment by tommyo77 | 2008-09-26 01:45:25

what fantasy world are you living in? Every poll shows him with 75-80% of Dem vote while McCain has 90% of Repub. vote. Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.

 

Comment by jd4hill | 2008-09-26 01:50:18

Yeah - just like Kerry owned the party after he lost — Lurch cannot get arrested in his own party now — he is a joke.

 
 

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-25 23:33:19

Benny - He wont lose. McCain is floundering so much, and Palin was so pitiful tonight - laughable even, that no one in their right mind will vote for her and McCain. McCain has screwed the proverbial pooch, and even though the pooch is screaming, McCain is calling it “crossing across the aisle”.

Good luck at the debates tomorrow.

Comment by Dan | 2008-09-25 23:44:01

You are without a clue. The remaining undecided will break almost 2-to-1 for McCain and he will be our next president.

Better get used to the idea, Phil.

Comment by Phil Murphy | 2008-09-26 00:09:17

Dan - Get the bottle glasses fixed and check out the polls. The dance band is playing on McCain’s titanic.

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:51:08

I actually don’t even care if Sarah gets every answer wrong from now until doomsday, I will never vote for Obama. It is not about any other candidate, it is about Obama. He is the worst choice out of the entire field the dems offered. He is friends with horrid, anti-American creeps. I would never vote for anyone that attends a racist church for 22 years. i would never vote for a man taking graft from Rezko, who screwed over the whole district Obama represented, i would never vote for a man taking that graft from Rezko when Tony is the front man for Auchi, the guy that stole 650 million from the US in the oil for food scam. There is no way I would vote for a corrupt party that moves votes on magical thinking reasoning, based on what would have happened if everything were different. It is a darn shame the dems turned down the best Presidential candidate in my lifetime for a fake, lying, crap talking flim-flam artist that can’t speak without umming and ahhing like a 4th grader. It really is a shame that Donna Brazile has such a big mouth that she actually wrote me an email telling me to go away. It really is a shame.
We will fix this in 4 years when Hillary is elected. Until then, consider this tough love, we will save all you too-proud-to-admit-a-mistake koolaid drinkers from yourselves….and I don’t even need a thank you. I’m just that in love with my country, I’ll do it for you, too.

 
 
 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-26 00:04:46

Palin was just being ‘human’ tongiht. What have you got against being human? Is she not allowed to have a moment where she’s caught off-guard? Heaven forbid, but Obama has had trillions of ‘off-guard’ moments, but I guess, that’s O.K. with you? Who the h@ll does Couric think SHE is, anyway? She’s JUST A JOURNALIST!

You Obummer supporters apparently take too much stock in comedians (Letterman, Stewart, etc.) or t.v. anchors (Couric, Matthews) who are liberal, ’star struck’ sheep who have NO EXPERIENCE AS POLITICIANS; their only experience is JOURNALISM!

 

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-26 00:05:04

Palin was just being ‘human’ tonight. What have you got against being human? Is she not allowed to have a moment where she’s caught off-guard? Heaven forbid, but Obama has had trillions of ‘off-guard’ moments, but I guess, that’s O.K. with you? Who the h@ll does Couric think SHE is, anyway? She’s JUST A JOURNALIST!

You Obummer supporters apparently take too much stock in comedians (Letterman, Stewart, etc.) or t.v. anchors (Couric, Matthews) who are liberal, ’star struck’ sheep who have NO EXPERIENCE AS POLITICIANS; their only experience is JOURNALISM!

 

Comment by silverfox | 2008-09-26 10:39:51

philly boy

the bobo is going to lose in nov.

this is so.

nothing you can say will ever change that fact.

deal with it.

 
 
 

Comment by Tricia Spiegel | 2008-09-25 23:22:54

WHOA! You nailed it Uppity!!!

 

Comment by lusitania | 2008-09-25 23:23:43

It is outlandish some of the racist remarks that come out of the mouths of some blacks. If it were whites saying those things the resulting tumult would be WILD!

The Obamobots are running scared and the only thing they have left IS to play the race card…over and over again. They find it hard to believe that there really are substantial reasons not to vote for this fraud.

This is a great post and serves as a reminder that even after the election there is still work to be done. Will our work involve the creation of a third party or will we be tearing down the Democratic Party only to rebuild it?

DUMP DEAN, PELOSI and BRAZILE.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-25 23:37:00

I am anticipating some backlash from the AA community over the abuse of that card. To misuse it in such a way… makes it hard for AA’s faced with legitimate complaints. Obama seems to flaunt the card without regard for people who really may have issues. There are a lot of folks out there who weren’t raised with a globe hopping lifestyle, and whose grandparents weren’t bankers, and who never got into college… let alone three very exclusive colleges who never play the card that Obama spends so willy-nilly. Nobody likes to be unappreciated, not even those who share skin tones. Obama just doesn’t play well with others.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-25 23:39:04

I am anticipating some backlash from the AA community over the abuse of that card.

I think this very much depends on whether or not he wins. If he loses your theory seems to work.

 
 
 

Comment by VMorris | 2008-09-25 23:25:20

No doubt about it. The Brazile, Dean, Pelosi Obamacratic Party consider themselves as the top of the food chain when it comes to intelligence. They all have a way of looking down their noses and treating us like we are dim-witted Neanderthals. Get a clue: This type of treatment not only loses votes, but pushes voters to make it a point to vote for the other side. For supposedly being so smart, the Obamacrats are either foolish or insane.

In fact, Uppity pointed out that the Democrats are talented at repeating their big mistakes. Isn’t continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results the definition of insanity?

Comment by 30yrdem-not any more | 2008-09-25 23:27:31

Isn’t continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results the definition of insanity?

I believe it is and it fits so well.

 
 

Comment by socalannie | 2008-09-25 23:33:10

Here is a comment by the pollster, Zogby. Its worded strangely, but he says he thinks McCain could win in a landslide:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20080925/NEWS01/80925009/1002/NEWS

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-25 23:50:01

Yes after two books, an Oprah endorsement as “The One” and nearly two years of campaigning… who is he… really? The glaring thing that is missing is a past. There is nobody who went to college with him, went to school with him, we see no family friends, nothing. We see no transcripts, no work from school, and even his wife’s school work is guarded. He won’t even show his birth certificate to a federal judge to settle a small misunderstanding about his constitutional eligibility. It’s as though the two books ought to stand in for all of this… but of course they don’t. Who is this guy anyway? Really who is he

Contrast John McCain, we know him, know his past, we know who he is, what made him what he is, what he wants to be. We know. Contrast Sarah Palin, a PTA mom worked her way up to governor of a state. We know her because we know somebody like her already. She is a hockey mom, she has kids and a job, we understand that. We are comfortable with what we understand. I think Zogby is dead on right… we may have a McGovern moment in history here.

Comment by Ginger | 2008-09-26 00:59:23

I find peopel that have friends for 30, 40, 50 years to be amazing people that know how to treat others with respect. Obama has no friends, just those that he uses, and those that use him. Why would I choose him over a man that has lifelong friends that stand by him and respect, even admire him? One of the things that made me start dating the guy I’ve been with for nearly 30 years was that he had friends from 1st grade he still was friends with. People that were smart and intelligent, the kind you want to be friends with to recommend him. Men with no past have things to hide and bad relationships in their past. Even Obama’s own story, as he tells it, doesn’t recommend him.

 
 

Comment by mcpalin hill | 2008-09-26 01:01:56

socalannie — Thank you so much for that link. We have lost so much this year and now you give me hope that McCain can win in a landslide. Deep in my heart I believe you’re right.

 
 

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-25 23:36:47

Report: Democrats Need Gains Among All The People They Insulted

Report: Hell will have to freeze over prior to us coming back any time soon.

 

Comment by benny | 2008-09-25 23:41:49

There is a possibility of riots after the McCain victory. The obamacrats will go nuts. Their messiah lost - a whole new concept.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-25 23:47:19

Riots? What are they gonna do throw Cheetos at us?

Comment by Brendy | 2008-09-26 00:09:02

No, they’ll throw ‘crackers’ at us. LOL!

Comment by Garfield | 2008-09-26 00:16:04

During the primary, one Obama supporter called me a “cracker.” I had never heard that term before! I didn’t know it was a derogatory term for a white. I looked it up in the dictionary and was shocked! I never would make a derogatory remark about someone’s ethnic background.

Since that time, I’ve been called a cracker on a number of occasions by Obama supporters.

Comment by no vote for Oblabla | 2008-09-26 02:09:07

I also had an Obammunist call me a cracker recently…the hilarious thing about this is that I’m Cuban-American :lol:

I’m fair-haired and have very white skin, my family are descendants from Asturian Spaniards, so I guess it was my coloring that kinda threw him off. I laughed right in his face, told him where I was born, and he huffed and walked away without saying another word. Honestly, it felt pretty cool being called a cracker :-)

 
 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-26 09:08:01

Well, if they riot, they can wait like the Hurricane Katrina and now Hurricane Ike victims for FEMA to show up to help them.

What is our deficit right now?????

What’s happening with our economy?????

The line with people having their hands out is the longest line in America right now.

People want to riot just because this biracial fraud doesn’t get elected? Then feel free to be stupid.

This is a democracy. And in an election, the person with the most votes is supposed to win. This is why we despise George W. Bush.

I don’t intend to riot if 0bama wins. I’m just going to align myself with all those who will work to defeat him next time out. Which won’t be hard, because after he throws all of his supporters under his bus, they’ll be screaming ‘Impeachment.’

0bama is going to be remembered as the worst candidate in the history of the Democrats.

I’m going to do my part on Election Day to make sure this guy loses.

 
 

Comment by Garfield | 2008-09-25 23:48:35

Donna is a racist but she fits in well with Obama and the rest of Obama’s Democratic Party.

Obama’s Democratic Party is now the racist political party and Obama’s followers are endorsing racist and sexism. Worse, they justify their bigotry. Sounds like the same mentality of the KKK.

Comment by Docelder | 2008-09-25 23:58:46

I have seen definitions of racism, by well known organizations wherein the definition was craftily worded so that racism by definition could not exist from AA toward white. Interesting then that racism by it’s own definition can be a racist term in and of itself.

Comment by Garfield | 2008-09-26 00:11:40

Obama and his minions also redefined the Democratic Party.

Thank goodness for the dictionary.

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Racism: 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

According to wordreference:

racism, racialism, racial discrimination
discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race.

A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A ROSE.

Brasile is a RACIST as are Obama and many of his supporters.

 

Comment by silverfox | 2008-09-26 10:48:35

docelder…

i think we are allowed to call black on white racism by the term bigot.

not a pretty word either.

as it is said…..

“a rose is a rose is a rose.”

and…

by any name it smells the same.

 
 
 

Comment by whoframedrudy | 2008-09-25 23:49:19

“If you’re not willing to do everything necessary to win, you don’t deserve to lead.”

“Since 1980 though, Democrats have struggled to even remain competitive among whites, particularly men.”

Not competitive with white men. So what do the Dems do? Alienate white women, too. Is that what you mean by “everything necessary to win?”

You’re a Rove wannabe but you don’t even understand Rove. You think Rove is just about lashing out with blind, stupid attacks. Take a look at Ken Mehlman if you want to know how Bush won in 2004. Or you can just swallow all the left wing propaganda, if you’d rather.

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-09-25 23:52:30

I can honestly say that Donna Brazle’s statement on CNN was the turning point for me. When she went on that rant about the “New Party,” the Dems lost me. I was aghast that any party operative of Brazile’s stature could sit there and spew that vitriol.

And that’s when I knew that the Democratic Party had made a sharp and irrevocable turn, one that I, coming from a working class family, could never, would never support.

To quote the One, “It’s not the Party I once knew.”

To quote myself, “It’s not the Party I ever want to know.”

Comment by RottenFishArePeopleToo | 2008-09-26 00:07:08

can honestly say that Donna Brazle’s statement on CNN was the turning point for me.

I was getting the message loud and clear that “we don’t need no steenking old white women” over at King Kos’ place before MS Brazile made her statement on the tv.

What she said sealed the deal for me; but I was not surprised at all to hear it, since the attitude had been running rampant on the Daily KoolAid.

 
 

Comment by beverly leslie | 2008-09-25 23:52:47

This is off topic but I will post it.

VIA TexasDarlin

So, at long last, Senator Obama admits that he was born with Dual Citizenship:

From “Fight the Smears”

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

Now nice Anti-Pumas, please admit that the Senator has been selling snake oil and you have been buying it. I said he was probably born with Dual Citizenship under the 1948 Act at the outset, and I wasn’t wrong. Likewise, I wasn’t wrong about the Kenyan Constitution and his Kenyan Citizenship. Don’t take any bets that I’m wrong about Indonesia. Or the US Constitution and what it means.

Please note that I, once again, state that I, personally, believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that it doesn’t affect my opinion on his Eligibility for the Office of POTUS at all. In my understanding Article II Requires that one be a “Natural Born Citizen”, and in terms of the Law as understood by the Framers, anyone with Dual Citizenship could not be “Natural Born”. It does not matter that they no longer hold that Citizenship, they fall into the same bracket as a “Naturalized Citizen” because they have/had Divided Allegiance. That is my view and I haven’t moved an inch on it.

However, the Kenyan Citizenship Issue may not be the main point here, WAS HE, OR WAS HE NOT, an INDONESIAN CITIZEN? The Senator isn’t saying, isn’t mentioning it, is trying to avoid producing any Paperwork at all. Why? If he is/was an Indonesian Citizen, too, the Senator’s entire narrative is a fiction and he should be ashamed of himself.

He’s lied about Kenya, at least by omission, for months/years, so why should I assume he isn’t lying about Indonesia? Note Kenyan Citizenship automatically lapses if it isn’t renewed at age 21, Indonesian Citizenship doesn’t. If he was an Indonesian Citizen he would have to actively repudiate that Citizenship. Did he? Has he? Because if he hasn’t, Senator Obama is Dual National Indonesian at this moment, subject to the Laws of BOTH Countries, equally.

That is true under US Law, Indonesian Law and International Law and until LAST YEAR Indonesia DID NOT Recognize Dual Citizenship and the USA did not Recognize that one could be a Dual US/Indonesian Citizen. It does not matter that the Senator was not Responsible for the change of Citizenship because he was a child when it happened. Governor Schwarzenegger was not Responsible for the fact that he was born in Austria, or that under Austrian Law he is not a US Citizen, or under the US Law and Rules he is not a Citizen of Austria.

Senator Obama needs to produce his Paperwork, all of it, not just a Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii, but all his other Paperwork too.

So, the Senator WAS a Dual National. That is now an admitted fact, admitted by his own Campaign and by Annenberg. The Senator is a Constitutional Lawyer which means that he knows, and has always known, that he is probably Ineligible to Hold the Office of POTUS, or that, at the very least, there is a strong Legal Argument that that is the case. In turn, that means that as he lied about his Kenyan and British Citizenships he is probably lying about his Indonesian Citizenship.

I do not suppose that it was ever his intention to give up his US Citizenship and it does not matter to me one bit. It doesn’t matter to Indonesia either. If Lolo Soetoro adopted him he ceased to be a US Citizen in the mid 1960s, BY INDONESIAN LAW. He also ceased to be a Kenyan Citizen, BY INDONESIAN LAW. By Kenyan and US Law he retained his Original Citizenships, until his 21st Birthday. By Indonesian Law he could have given up Indonesian Citizenship at age 18, but did he? If he didn’t he was, albeit accidentally, displaying a Legal Intention to void his US Citizenship, since he knew he could not Legally hold both Citizenships.

Please don’t tell me that the US doesn’t have to concern itself with the Laws of Indonesia because, in this case, the US does have to do so. By the way, under US Law of another time the Senator would not have been a US Citizen at all, and he knows that.

If a Naturalized Citizen cannot hold the Office of POTUS because they previously held another Citizenship it is egregious, so far as I am concerned, that a Dual Citizen/Former Dual Citizen should claim to have a Legal Right to do so. I refer the reader to my Articles on Dual Citizenship and ask you to read the quotes from Blackstone. [TD NOTE: I will be re-posting all of Judah's work shortly].

This new material at “Fight the Smears” displays arrogance, hubris and bad faith, in my opinion. It is the Senator’s reaction to Phillip Berg’s Law Suit, and, basically, it amounts to an open admission of mens rea. He is flaunting his bad faith and in so doing destroys his own case.

Comment by Snickers | 2008-09-26 02:50:43

Thanks for this update, Beverly Leslie. I hope Larry does an article on this for tomorrow and that the MSM actually mentions it or that Fox news does. I think Barry is now officially disqualified. I hope McCain forces the issue, or at least the 527s and that Barry is forced to drop out.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-09-26 09:14:34

Well, why didn’t he say it from the beginning.

It’s a trend with 0bama, lies, half-truths, obfuscation.

Who needs someone like this in the WH.

0bama has made it bad for himself all along.

BTW, I guess I missed the moment when Texas Darlin stopped posting on this blog. I’ll have to make a mental note to check in at her website.

 
 

Comment by Buzz Latte | 2008-09-25 23:53:44

What’s your point, Jon?

You don’t like us? You don’t like what you see on this site?

You’re free to leave and you won’t be missed.

 

Comment by Diana | 2008-09-25 23:55:20

Great article and rebuttal Uppity, I really wish they hadn’t done that to the video though it’s annoying. The split screens are OK, the 4 screens, but the distortions…

 

Comment by EightBelles | 2008-09-25 23:58:15

Excellent post! There was a time when I considered Donna Brazile to be a decent person who put the interest of the people above party loyalty. At some point Brazile’s blind loyalty to a candidate named Barack Obama seems to have gotten in the way of her principles and integrity. What happened to Brazile is yet another example of the destructive power this man, BO, wields over those caught in his web of deceit.

BO is the “Great Divider.” Has there ever been a candidate in American history who offended more people from more walks of life than Barack Obama has? Uppity Woman did a tremendous job of presenting NQ readers with a detailed roster of the many who were insulted by BO or by BO’s pastor and mentor, Rev Wright. If the MSM can’t sort out why we, the DNC disenfranchised, aren’t falling in line to worship the Dem’s not so American idol, I give up. Let them call us anything they like. I suspect the MSM’s real beef is over the fact that we who are in opposition to Barack Obama are a whole lot brighter than they ever gave us credit for.

Comment by Chockablock "Hillawee can you change my diapy pwease?" Opampers | 2008-09-26 03:42:46

I suspect the MSM’s real beef is over the fact that we who are in opposition to Barack Obama are a whole lot brighter than they ever gave us credit for.

And this blog is a huge thorn in the side to its opposition.

 
 

Comment by Objective analysis | 2008-09-26 00:04:24

Wasn’t this the woman who led the Gore campaign to loose to Bush by alienating against Clinton? Who is racist? In my opinion, if Brazile thinks that to be non-racist and white, you have to fall so hard for an inept, inadequate black person to make this white guilt feel better.

Someone needs to see if Brazile attends Rev. Wright (God Damn America) or US of KKA church?

 

Comment by Susan1968 | 2008-09-26 00:55:03

Also keep in mind Brazille worked with Rove on several issues. Yeah - sge was a Rove operative - google it.

 

Comment by Diana | 2008-09-26 01:34:14

Pollster says election could end in landslide.
Jill Terreri • September 25, 2008

What’s this?

The presidential election might be a tight race now, but one of the country’s top pollsters thinks the race will end in an electoral landslide.

John Zogby, president of Zogby International, told a group of businesspeople today that it’s up to Democratic Sen. Barack Obama to convince voters to go with him. If he’s not successful, the country will likely vote for “a comfortable old shoe”, that being Republican Sen. John McCain.

For whole story:
http://tinyurl.com/3mpkhz

 

Comment by Tristan | 2008-09-26 05:02:47

There’s a rule in politics that you don’t insult people if you’re going to need their votes later.

 

Comment by Christy | 2008-09-26 05:32:43

Thank you Uppity, you are soooo great!

I love this article you wrote! When BO tries to yell racism after he loses, we will all be there with the real reasons why he lost. And we can take back our party from slime like Donna Brazile.

 

Comment by SLW | 2008-09-26 07:11:53

…and then we have Jim Dean, *insert your own sausage joke here*, explaining Democracy for America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7myGH6ELCg

 

Comment by Amy Crunch | 2008-09-26 07:40:49

I like facts. When watching a YouTube clip I like straight undoctored clips. This type of crap is inappropriate. If you have a point to make then make it. If you want to spice your article with a clip then don’t use something that’s demeaning. This clip is an insult to the people at NQ and says a bit too much about your respect for and belief in them and democratic traditions.

 

Comment by SLW | 2008-09-26 08:12:30

My apologies and for the record, you do not have to insult me with your assumptions; I was only trying to make people aware of others intentions. I am not held liable to or privy to that crap either- I was making a point and it is not my article.- it was brought tro my attention. I have the outmost respect for NQ and am still considered a newbie, so again, please accept my sincere apologies- I will not do that. I was under the impression that NQ welcomed challenges and in no way shape or form, do I encourage behavior like that as well. If the opinion I stated was out of line, I accept that and willingly admit that wrong- I made a mistake, I am only human- like everyone else.

 

Comment by DancingOpossum | 2008-09-26 09:18:42

WestPalm, I love it!! Perfect responses. I always say “I am voting for the only true liberal, progressive, African-American candidate in this race: Cynthia McKinney.” Usually floors them.

And Tommy, you guessed it: FF is indeed an Obamabot.

 

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