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	<title>Comments on: Consumer Rights League, Obama, ACORN and The SubPrime Mortgage</title>
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		<title>By: Jeep</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-948203</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the allegations against ACORN? Nothing above mentions why ACORN is so bad...</description>
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		<title>By: dk</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-851079</link>
		<dc:creator>dk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's illogical to say that the CRA was even a bit responsible for this and my reason for saying this is that lenders not under the CRA were much more irresponsible in their lending practices. If the CRA had the effect that is proposed by people, there would be a clear correlation showing CRA institutions giving a higher percentage of risky loans.
The goal of the CRA was to create a responsible lending atmosphere to lower-income consumers. This sub-prime mortgage mess is not responsible lending.

http://www.reuters.com/article...80107

Another article with a study showing supporting information:
Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP Study Shows CRA Banks Were Substantially
Less Likely Than Other Lenders to Make the High Cost Loans That Helped Fuel the Foreclosure Crisis

NEW YORK--(Business Wire)--A Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study of 2006 mortgage loan data suggests that the Community Reinvestment Act, a federal law that requires banks to help serve the credit needs of their local communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, deterred banks from engaging in the kinds of risky lending practices that are provoking the foreclosure crisis.

Compared to other lenders in their communities, banks making loans
in their CRA assessment areas (CRA Banks) were less likely to make a
high cost loan, charged less for the high cost loans they did make,
and were substantially more likely to eschew the secondary market and
retain high cost and other loans in portfolio. Foreclosure rates were
also lower in metropolitan areas with proportionately greater numbers
of bank branches.

The Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study, entitled "The Community
Reinvestment Act: A Welcome Anomaly in the Foreclosure Crisis,"
reviewed 2006 home purchase mortgage lending in the nation's 15
largest metropolitan areas: Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit,
Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix,
Riverside, CA, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, DC. The study
utilized public data filed pursuant to the CRA and Home Mortgage
Disclosure Act (HMDA).

"Without the CRA, the foreclosure crisis might have negatively
impacted even more borrowers and neighborhoods," stated law firm
partner Warren Traiger. "Apparently, the CRA's mandate that banks help
serve the credit needs of their local communities consistent with safe
and sound banking practices has resulted in CRA Banks making a greater
proportion of safe and sound loans than other lenders."

Specifically, the Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study found that:

-- CRA Banks were 66 percent less likely than other lenders to
originate a high cost loan;

-- The average high cost loan made by CRA Banks was priced 68
basis points lower than the average high cost loan originated
by other lenders;

-- CRA Banks were more than twice as likely as other lenders to
hold originated loans in their portfolio; and

-- The higher a metropolitan area's concentration of bank
branches, the lower its foreclosure rate.

Conclusion

To a much greater extent than other lenders, CRA Banks avoided
making the types of home purchase mortgage loans that provoked the
foreclosure crisis. Unfortunately, the law's impact on the subprime
crisis was limited because in the 15 metropolitan areas analyzed, the
CRA Banks' share of the mortgage market was less than 25 percent.

While some have suggested extending CRA-like obligations to other
categories of lenders as a way of prospectively limiting the volume of
high cost loans and the problems associated with them, the study
speculates that the presence of local brick and mortar branches in a
community was at least as important a reason for CRA Banks' better
performance than fear of a less than satisfactory CRA evaluation.
Although the CRA still has a vital role to play for banks lending in
their communities, it is doubtful whether the same benefits can be
realized for other lenders without a branch nexus.

The complete study is available at http://www.traigerlaw.com.

Not only were they less likely to produce sub-prime loans, they also gave lower rates than other sub-prime offerings (triggering less foreclosure), they also kept the mortgages in their own portfolio more often rather than selling them off to companies like F&amp;F as 'investments'.

What that last point means is that they were more comfortable with taking on more of the risk from their mortgages, rather than passing on the risk to other companies as 'investment opportunities'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s illogical to say that the CRA was even a bit responsible for this and my reason for saying this is that lenders not under the CRA were much more irresponsible in their lending practices. If the CRA had the effect that is proposed by people, there would be a clear correlation showing CRA institutions giving a higher percentage of risky loans.<br />
The goal of the CRA was to create a responsible lending atmosphere to lower-income consumers. This sub-prime mortgage mess is not responsible lending.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article...80107" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article&#8230;80107</a></p>
<p>Another article with a study showing supporting information:<br />
Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP Study Shows CRA Banks Were Substantially<br />
Less Likely Than Other Lenders to Make the High Cost Loans That Helped Fuel the Foreclosure Crisis</p>
<p>NEW YORK&#8211;(Business Wire)&#8211;A Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study of 2006 mortgage loan data suggests that the Community Reinvestment Act, a federal law that requires banks to help serve the credit needs of their local communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, deterred banks from engaging in the kinds of risky lending practices that are provoking the foreclosure crisis.</p>
<p>Compared to other lenders in their communities, banks making loans<br />
in their CRA assessment areas (CRA Banks) were less likely to make a<br />
high cost loan, charged less for the high cost loans they did make,<br />
and were substantially more likely to eschew the secondary market and<br />
retain high cost and other loans in portfolio. Foreclosure rates were<br />
also lower in metropolitan areas with proportionately greater numbers<br />
of bank branches.</p>
<p>The Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study, entitled &#8220;The Community<br />
Reinvestment Act: A Welcome Anomaly in the Foreclosure Crisis,&#8221;<br />
reviewed 2006 home purchase mortgage lending in the nation&#8217;s 15<br />
largest metropolitan areas: Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit,<br />
Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix,<br />
Riverside, CA, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, DC. The study<br />
utilized public data filed pursuant to the CRA and Home Mortgage<br />
Disclosure Act (HMDA).</p>
<p>&#8220;Without the CRA, the foreclosure crisis might have negatively<br />
impacted even more borrowers and neighborhoods,&#8221; stated law firm<br />
partner Warren Traiger. &#8220;Apparently, the CRA&#8217;s mandate that banks help<br />
serve the credit needs of their local communities consistent with safe<br />
and sound banking practices has resulted in CRA Banks making a greater<br />
proportion of safe and sound loans than other lenders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Specifically, the Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP study found that:</p>
<p>&#8211; CRA Banks were 66 percent less likely than other lenders to<br />
originate a high cost loan;</p>
<p>&#8211; The average high cost loan made by CRA Banks was priced 68<br />
basis points lower than the average high cost loan originated<br />
by other lenders;</p>
<p>&#8211; CRA Banks were more than twice as likely as other lenders to<br />
hold originated loans in their portfolio; and</p>
<p>&#8211; The higher a metropolitan area&#8217;s concentration of bank<br />
branches, the lower its foreclosure rate.</p>
<p>Conclusion</p>
<p>To a much greater extent than other lenders, CRA Banks avoided<br />
making the types of home purchase mortgage loans that provoked the<br />
foreclosure crisis. Unfortunately, the law&#8217;s impact on the subprime<br />
crisis was limited because in the 15 metropolitan areas analyzed, the<br />
CRA Banks&#8217; share of the mortgage market was less than 25 percent.</p>
<p>While some have suggested extending CRA-like obligations to other<br />
categories of lenders as a way of prospectively limiting the volume of<br />
high cost loans and the problems associated with them, the study<br />
speculates that the presence of local brick and mortar branches in a<br />
community was at least as important a reason for CRA Banks&#8217; better<br />
performance than fear of a less than satisfactory CRA evaluation.<br />
Although the CRA still has a vital role to play for banks lending in<br />
their communities, it is doubtful whether the same benefits can be<br />
realized for other lenders without a branch nexus.</p>
<p>The complete study is available at <a href="http://www.traigerlaw.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.traigerlaw.com</a>.</p>
<p>Not only were they less likely to produce sub-prime loans, they also gave lower rates than other sub-prime offerings (triggering less foreclosure), they also kept the mortgages in their own portfolio more often rather than selling them off to companies like F&amp;F as &#8216;investments&#8217;.</p>
<p>What that last point means is that they were more comfortable with taking on more of the risk from their mortgages, rather than passing on the risk to other companies as &#8216;investment opportunities&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-840587</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my God. I had no idea. OMFG. I'm reading this and taking it in. I'm a Republican. I swear I'd have voted for Hillary if I thought it would have stopped Obama and ACORN. OMG Obama is a gd communist! I have been shouting and screaming at my Democrat friends for months: Obama must be stopped! Please, does anyone know Bill Clinton's number? Call him, appeal to his patriotism. For the love of God, America and all that's holy ... STOP Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my God. I had no idea. OMFG. I&#8217;m reading this and taking it in. I&#8217;m a Republican. I swear I&#8217;d have voted for Hillary if I thought it would have stopped Obama and ACORN. OMG Obama is a gd communist! I have been shouting and screaming at my Democrat friends for months: Obama must be stopped! Please, does anyone know Bill Clinton&#8217;s number? Call him, appeal to his patriotism. For the love of God, America and all that&#8217;s holy &#8230; STOP Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Bigsby</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-838742</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Bigsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2006, Obama requested that Will County receive $1.3 million to support its Flood Studies for Unincorporated Will County.

In 2006, Obama requested $800,000 for the Will County Sheriff’s Office Wireless Communications Technology Upgrades.

In 2006, Obama requested $1,953,331 for Will County’s Ridgewood Water and Sewage Project.

In 2005, Obama requested $2 million for the Lewis University in Romeoville, Illinois, to establish a Center for Academic and Community Learning, which is designed to address the significant educational needs of the less advantaged in the Will County region by providing academic assistance not only for students on campus but also for residents of the surrounding communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2006, Obama requested that Will County receive $1.3 million to support its Flood Studies for Unincorporated Will County.</p>
<p>In 2006, Obama requested $800,000 for the Will County Sheriff’s Office Wireless Communications Technology Upgrades.</p>
<p>In 2006, Obama requested $1,953,331 for Will County’s Ridgewood Water and Sewage Project.</p>
<p>In 2005, Obama requested $2 million for the Lewis University in Romeoville, Illinois, to establish a Center for Academic and Community Learning, which is designed to address the significant educational needs of the less advantaged in the Will County region by providing academic assistance not only for students on campus but also for residents of the surrounding communities.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-812175</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happened to the cra video?</description>
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		<title>By: dk</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-808431</link>
		<dc:creator>dk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depository institutions aren't part of this sub-prime mess.  From the very same page the you took your CRA information off of:

Neither the CRA nor its implementing regulation gives specific criteria for rating the performance of depository institutions. Rather, the law indicates that the evaluation process should accommodate an institution's individual circumstances. &lt;em&gt;Nor does the law require institutions to make high-risk loans that jeopardize their safety.&lt;/em&gt; To the contrary, the law makes it clear that an institution's CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner.

It looks like you purposely left this info out.  Deceptive, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depository institutions aren&#8217;t part of this sub-prime mess.  From the very same page the you took your CRA information off of:</p>
<p>Neither the CRA nor its implementing regulation gives specific criteria for rating the performance of depository institutions. Rather, the law indicates that the evaluation process should accommodate an institution&#8217;s individual circumstances. <em>Nor does the law require institutions to make high-risk loans that jeopardize their safety.</em> To the contrary, the law makes it clear that an institution&#8217;s CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner.</p>
<p>It looks like you purposely left this info out.  Deceptive, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcernedCitizenX</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-798461</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcernedCitizenX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever considered finding a way to use the RICO Act against ACORN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever considered finding a way to use the RICO Act against ACORN?</p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-796487</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to give you a healthy amount of KUDOS for such excellent reference material to this ACORN-gate problem of Obama's and the Democrats.

It's definitely a favorite saved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to give you a healthy amount of KUDOS for such excellent reference material to this ACORN-gate problem of Obama&#8217;s and the Democrats.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely a favorite saved!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-796408</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok - lets look into these claims: 

"In 1995, Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar balked at implementing the federal motor voter law..." 
Yes, Obama was part of a team of lawyers who, with acorn, succesfully forced the governor to implement a federal law. A federal judge found that, in fact, Illinois is subject to the US constitution. I don't have a problem with supporting the constitution, or trying to help poor people vote. 

"In 1996 Obama ran for Illinois State Senate and ACORN became his precinct organization, identifying and turning out the vote."
"Precinct organization?" ALmost certainly untrue, but i could be persuaded if you present evidence. Certainly willing to believe they supported him... he shared many of their passions about helping the working poor. 
 
"When Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities."

The woods fund says its goals are "to increase opportunities for less advantaged people and communities." Heres a link to the oldest annual report archived on its website, 2003, the year after he left: 

http://www.woodsfund.org/Folder_1042751691717/Folder_1207621291201/File_1207621304526 . Would be much better to have reports from the years he was there, or course. At any rate, gives a flavor of their operations and i doubt they changed much at that time. Go to grants paid section. They paid out $3 million that year to over 50 organizations, most of which seem worthy causes to me. Judge for yourself. Among them all is a $70,000 grant to the chicago acorn branch to support their work on "education reform, anti-predatory lending, living wage... and immigration reform." That does't seem scary to me.  

"In 2004 ACORN operates as Obama’s precinct organization in his run for the U.S. Senate." 

Citation, please. This is a highly dubious assertion. 

"In 2007 ACORN’s national political arm endorsed Obama for president, and its “nonpartisan” voter registration affiliate starts registering hundreds of thousands of voters for Obama."

Look, all sorts of advocacy groups register voters, and you can usualy tell who they want to win by lookign at where they focus their efforts . The rules are simply that you must provide assistance to anybody you reach out too, even when they tell you they're not going to support your guy. Evangelical groups do this. Inner-city groups do this. Gun advocates do tihs. This is the way the system runs and there's nothing alarming about it.  
 
"Obama claims he has no ties to “a group he once did some legal work for.”"
I guess there could be a semantic argument about "ties." But i tried and failed to find any quote from obama about the organization and the nature of his relationship to it. Could you post and cite, please? Let's hear what he said. 

"In July 2008 the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, along with NoQuarter researchers, exposes the lie by uncovering $832,598.29 that the Obama campaign funneled through a front company called Citizens Services, Inc."

I just read the trib article. The Obama campaign origialy said it paid citizen's services for political advance work. It later amended the filing to say it paid the organization for get out the vote work. This group is a liberal/democratic, for-profit political mobilization organization. None of this alarms me, but reasonable people can disagree.  

"ACORN, which receives partial taxpayer funding, used those funds to conduct solicitations for contributions to and raised over $800,000 for Obama in Philadelphia alone." 

If it could be proven they took taxpayer money and used it for partisan politics, that would be very damaging for them. Has this been proven? Links please.  

I'm willing to accept for the sake of argument that ACORN has links to the obama campaign (never mind how or how circuitous) AND that acorn has engaged in a number of dodgy practices. But none of what's beign shown to me seems off teh reservation within our political culture. McCain? The words "Keating five" should be enough. Bill Clinton? "Marc Rich." Hillary Clinton? "Norman Hsu." You'd struggle to find any natioal political organization that does't have dodgy associations when you follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok - lets look into these claims: </p>
<p>&#8220;In 1995, Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar balked at implementing the federal motor voter law&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Yes, Obama was part of a team of lawyers who, with acorn, succesfully forced the governor to implement a federal law. A federal judge found that, in fact, Illinois is subject to the US constitution. I don&#8217;t have a problem with supporting the constitution, or trying to help poor people vote. </p>
<p>&#8220;In 1996 Obama ran for Illinois State Senate and ACORN became his precinct organization, identifying and turning out the vote.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Precinct organization?&#8221; ALmost certainly untrue, but i could be persuaded if you present evidence. Certainly willing to believe they supported him&#8230; he shared many of their passions about helping the working poor. </p>
<p>&#8220;When Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>The woods fund says its goals are &#8220;to increase opportunities for less advantaged people and communities.&#8221; Heres a link to the oldest annual report archived on its website, 2003, the year after he left: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.woodsfund.org/Folder_1042751691717/Folder_1207621291201/File_1207621304526" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodsfund.org/Folder_1042751691717/Folder_1207621291201/File_1207621304526</a> . Would be much better to have reports from the years he was there, or course. At any rate, gives a flavor of their operations and i doubt they changed much at that time. Go to grants paid section. They paid out $3 million that year to over 50 organizations, most of which seem worthy causes to me. Judge for yourself. Among them all is a $70,000 grant to the chicago acorn branch to support their work on &#8220;education reform, anti-predatory lending, living wage&#8230; and immigration reform.&#8221; That does&#8217;t seem scary to me.  </p>
<p>&#8220;In 2004 ACORN operates as Obama’s precinct organization in his run for the U.S. Senate.&#8221; </p>
<p>Citation, please. This is a highly dubious assertion. </p>
<p>&#8220;In 2007 ACORN’s national political arm endorsed Obama for president, and its “nonpartisan” voter registration affiliate starts registering hundreds of thousands of voters for Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look, all sorts of advocacy groups register voters, and you can usualy tell who they want to win by lookign at where they focus their efforts . The rules are simply that you must provide assistance to anybody you reach out too, even when they tell you they&#8217;re not going to support your guy. Evangelical groups do this. Inner-city groups do this. Gun advocates do tihs. This is the way the system runs and there&#8217;s nothing alarming about it.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Obama claims he has no ties to “a group he once did some legal work for.”&#8221;<br />
I guess there could be a semantic argument about &#8220;ties.&#8221; But i tried and failed to find any quote from obama about the organization and the nature of his relationship to it. Could you post and cite, please? Let&#8217;s hear what he said. </p>
<p>&#8220;In July 2008 the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, along with NoQuarter researchers, exposes the lie by uncovering $832,598.29 that the Obama campaign funneled through a front company called Citizens Services, Inc.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just read the trib article. The Obama campaign origialy said it paid citizen&#8217;s services for political advance work. It later amended the filing to say it paid the organization for get out the vote work. This group is a liberal/democratic, for-profit political mobilization organization. None of this alarms me, but reasonable people can disagree.  </p>
<p>&#8220;ACORN, which receives partial taxpayer funding, used those funds to conduct solicitations for contributions to and raised over $800,000 for Obama in Philadelphia alone.&#8221; </p>
<p>If it could be proven they took taxpayer money and used it for partisan politics, that would be very damaging for them. Has this been proven? Links please.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to accept for the sake of argument that ACORN has links to the obama campaign (never mind how or how circuitous) AND that acorn has engaged in a number of dodgy practices. But none of what&#8217;s beign shown to me seems off teh reservation within our political culture. McCain? The words &#8220;Keating five&#8221; should be enough. Bill Clinton? &#8220;Marc Rich.&#8221; Hillary Clinton? &#8220;Norman Hsu.&#8221; You&#8217;d struggle to find any natioal political organization that does&#8217;t have dodgy associations when you follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NancyA
Another great post.
I hope you will cross post this on Bitter politicz.
Some folks really ought to be eating crow right about now.
Actually, crows are small.
How about Pterodactyl?
Write on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NancyA<br />
Another great post.<br />
I hope you will cross post this on Bitter politicz.<br />
Some folks really ought to be eating crow right about now.<br />
Actually, crows are small.<br />
How about Pterodactyl?<br />
Write on!</p>
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		<title>By: pasmalltowngirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795899</link>
		<dc:creator>pasmalltowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very scared. This is like a plague that can't be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very scared. This is like a plague that can&#8217;t be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: pasmalltowngirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795879</link>
		<dc:creator>pasmalltowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to this, This needs to go viral. What a scumbag he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to this, This needs to go viral. What a scumbag he is.</p>
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		<title>By: DeeLee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795695</link>
		<dc:creator>DeeLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome. Somebody should make this into a poster and plaster it all over the place. I would buy it.

About ACORN, to me it's nothing more than a 'strong-arm' organization that uses the threat of large numbers of low income people to protest or boycott corporations (banks) to intimidate and extort money from them. If it was run by Italians or Irish or any white group, it would be called the Mafia, but it's run by blacks (thanks to community organizers-are ya listening Obama) so it's called affirmative action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome. Somebody should make this into a poster and plaster it all over the place. I would buy it.</p>
<p>About ACORN, to me it&#8217;s nothing more than a &#8217;strong-arm&#8217; organization that uses the threat of large numbers of low income people to protest or boycott corporations (banks) to intimidate and extort money from them. If it was run by Italians or Irish or any white group, it would be called the Mafia, but it&#8217;s run by blacks (thanks to community organizers-are ya listening Obama) so it&#8217;s called affirmative action.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795599</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, this was not a waste of time I'm saving links everywhere. From you're links you get to more information. This is very detailed information that has been thoroughly researched. Fantastic article! I've been looking for links on Acorn since I woke up, so I'm very elated to find such an in-depth article right here. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, this was not a waste of time I&#8217;m saving links everywhere. From you&#8217;re links you get to more information. This is very detailed information that has been thoroughly researched. Fantastic article! I&#8217;ve been looking for links on Acorn since I woke up, so I&#8217;m very elated to find such an in-depth article right here. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795575</link>
		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nancy--Good piece of research work!  ACORN is so complicated--the good messed up with a whole lot of bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nancy&#8211;Good piece of research work!  ACORN is so complicated&#8211;the good messed up with a whole lot of bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795539</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of former Bushies are now Obamaphiles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of former Bushies are now Obamaphiles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leisa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795528</link>
		<dc:creator>Leisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory is that they have succumbed to groupthink.  That is what happened with Bush supporters also.  It is so eerily familiar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory is that they have succumbed to groupthink.  That is what happened with Bush supporters also.  It is so eerily familiar.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink</a></p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795465</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anybody else getting really really scared that the big O could win?  I am terrified! I've never appreciated my freedom more than now when I could actually lose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anybody else getting really really scared that the big O could win?  I am terrified! I&#8217;ve never appreciated my freedom more than now when I could actually lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795431</link>
		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't know it was you, sorry you feel so down about this, but it is a fantastic piece of work, I am very grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t know it was you, sorry you feel so down about this, but it is a fantastic piece of work, I am very grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/27/consumer-rights-league-obama-acorn-and-the-subprime-mortgage/#comment-795424</link>
		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U of Hawaii -- not Ohio</description>
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